< 1349740833 373313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commits are immutable objects; they are named by their SHA1 hash so there is no way to mutate one unless you find a SHA1 collision ;) < 1349740881 156886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each commit refers to its parent(s) also by hash, so in that sense, history is completely immutable < 1349740911 952424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can always take some sequence of commits, and construct a new sequence of commits which does something similar but different < 1349740916 337028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "rewrites history" is more accurate than "mutates history". < 1349740968 239425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can switch your branch to use the new history rather than the old one < 1349740997 43266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a branch is not an immutable object, it's a named pointer into the database of immutable objects < 1349741039 538351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a branch is literally just a text file in .git/refs/heads with a hex SHA1 hash in it < 1349741046 161699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is also why branches are so cheap to create < 1349741115 865806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example getCC/runCC can be like: runReaderT (runContT (do { liftIO $ putStrLn "Hello!"; la <- getCC; v <- liftIO $ getLine; n <- ContT (\f -> ReaderT $ \q -> runReaderT (f $ succ q) (succ q)); liftIO $ putStrLn (v ++ ":" ++ show n); when (v /= "" && n < 10) $ runCC la; }) return) 0 < 1349741129 392455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :getCC = callCC (return . fix)? < 1349741140 756281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. getCC = callCC (return . CT); < 1349741151 833576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's CT? < 1349741152 445380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where CT is just a newtype wrapper) < 1349741199 973201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :runCC = runCT <*> id; (where runCT is the field of that newtype wrapper, and CT is the constructor) < 1349741213 72002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349741237 372255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: so rebase takes my local commits, and creates a new sequence of commits as though I had applied those patches to the current upstream, and then sets my local branch to point at the new history < 1349741244 339401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in this case. rebase can do many other things as well) < 1349741252 546710 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rebase -i is awesome. < 1349741256 631542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349741289 521350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with rebase -i and add -p, you can really make your history look nice < 1349741319 551439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it is even possible for the result type of a continuation monad to be another continuation monad, or if you use the proper newtype wrappers, even the same one, inside of some other monad or something like that too, even < 1349741323 594870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the point of version control history is to tell a logical story about how the code got from point A to point B < 1349741338 224329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I git historectomy < 1349741354 651932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1349741377 643523 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I and I < 1349741421 710399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is at SEA.
< 1349741430 351414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that working out for you < 1349741438 743852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than last time. < 1349741455 648594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got randomly selected to have my laptop checked, though. < 1349741464 372054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did they do? < 1349741464 960944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately they only checked the outside. < 1349741474 373604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you flying into the US from another country? < 1349741476 304075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rubbed something over it and put it in a machine, I think. < 1349741486 684183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm flying SEA->SFO < 1349741514 44078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1349742138 280842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349742398 851632 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that wasn't a typo! that was me not speaking english < 1349742412 96144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guessed. < 1349742674 151584 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing: my other recent edit was on the total BF talk page and included "whereas it will have been replaced by a 0" where I guess a "with" could (should?) be substituted for the "by" < 1349742723 191170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dcStupidTheta :: ThetaType,-- The context of the data type declaration < 1349742768 719138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think both are allowed there < 1349742836 368753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: the term is "For what it's worth" hth < 1349742849 744026 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did I say < 1349742853 966330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"worse" < 1349742864 157420 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh crap < 1349742872 660209 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was completely unintended < 1349742882 18393 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For what I'm worth" would have been intended < 1349742883 463097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :freudian slippery slope < 1349742913 745817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but would still have been unidiomatic. < 1349742946 863944 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, not-logged-in users cannot check the fancy little 'm' box < 1349742965 859183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1349743036 517713 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey is there an easy way to have non-printable characters printed to the console? < 1349743065 67998 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cat program I wrote works almost correctly in my interpreter < 1349743097 337817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use consoles much < 1349743118 590448 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you program in < 1349743130 637166 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, wait, console might not be the english term < 1349743135 435555 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shell < 1349743136 85347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gvim and winghci, mostly < 1349743170 687932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i do use it for my shell account where i've got my web page < 1349743174 143273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and mail) < 1349743213 82474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :terminal window is the usual term, i think. i thought you meant like "linux console", which elliott has been asking about a lot recently < 1349743226 858920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which i haven't used for years. < 1349743283 489235 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it the same thing as a linux console, isn't? < 1349743283 608978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: perl -e "print (chr 7);" would be one way? :P < 1349743296 333712 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that I'm not using linux < 1349743300 742864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you ever get your Stripe CTF 2.0 shirt? < 1349743320 591456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought linux console referred to what you have if you're using linux but not running a GUI < 1349743332 819150 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well humI meant I'd like to know whether my program doesn't print some garbage < 1349743333 876730 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/cLx669wc < 1349743335 267279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i've misunderstood < 1349743360 324050 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you can see it seems to be working correctly except for that question mark that appears < 1349743370 270303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so you want to _check_ for non-printable characters < 1349743374 919708 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which usually means I've printed a character the terminal window doesn't recognise < 1349743376 547363 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1349743393 432930 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I could just modify the interpreter to print numerci values instead of characters < 1349743421 532155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: i think piping into hexdump is useful for that < 1349743494 346310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i've used it before, or understand the format, but it should tell exactly what the output was < 1349743531 399925 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'a' > hexdump < 1349743536 906458 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does... nothing < 1349743541 326897 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 'a' > hexdump < 1349743547 331729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :|, not > < 1349743550 358601 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'a' > hexdump < 1349743555 938012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just made a hexdump file :P < 1349743581 6800 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it said hexdump 'A' < 1349743581 187853 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexdump: A: No such file or directory < 1349743581 364079 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexdump: A: Bad file descriptor < 1349743591 23670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'a' | hexdump < 1349743659 798863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'a' | hexdump -C might be better, it prints the printable ones readably too < 1349743728 800298 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 63 65 63 69 20 65 73 74 20 75 6e 20 74 65 73 74 |ceci est un test| < 1349743729 117014 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000010 0a ff |..| < 1349743729 342045 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000012 < 1349743730 960429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rest as .'s, it seems < 1349743751 978056 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 'a' | hexdump < 1349743755 81337 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'a' | hexdump < 1349743755 165928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: ok so you have a stray ff at the end < 1349743767 504806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 0a is just a newline < 1349743796 338839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'a' | hexdump < 1349743799 358844 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000 0a61 \ 0000002 < 1349743807 568381 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1349743818 263412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was weird... < 1349743831 132481 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the program does contain the value 255 as a marker < 1349743837 347734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no, that was without -C < 1349743837 969897 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because of the ever-growing thing in sceql) < 1349743845 389092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: yeah, but it got printed at the end < 1349743850 909859 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'ceci est un test' | hexdump -C < 1349743851 119787 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 63 65 63 69 20 65 73 74 20 75 6e 20 74 65 73 74 |ceci est un test| < 1349743851 569985 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000010 0a |.| < 1349743851 654400 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000011 < 1349743856 691043 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's not supposed to happen < 1349743876 280277 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, the number of outputs in the sceql program is exactly one less that the number of inputs < 1349743886 965081 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seemed logical since the last input was end of file < 1349743950 849429 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the 255 is printed as well, there should be as many outputs as inputs < 1349743960 679544 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349743971 864346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1349744020 142336 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-&=\&*_\-=_/-=/ < 1349744034 924733 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can see, one * inside the loop, one & inside the loop, and one & outside the loop < 1349744039 699471 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one more & < 1349744066 475981 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't seem to be the interpreter's fault since other programs work fine < 1349744224 821652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you checked other programs with hexdump? < 1349744514 991838 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple hello world program:00000000 48 65 6c 6c 6f 2c 20 77 6f 72 6c 64 21 0a |Hello, world!.| < 1349744515 200470 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0000000e < 1349744531 108643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: oh hm, shouldn't you have *& rather than &* < 1349744546 220020 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not but I'll think about it < 1349744561 714561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first character read will never be printed < 1349744564 335914 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that input enqueue the input at the back of the queue (cause it's a queue) < 1349744565 980333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1349744572 684242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1349744585 134708 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while output has the side effect of going to the next element < 1349744596 382584 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum, wait < 1349744625 147901 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so < 1349744630 431395 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have 255 as a marker < 1349744646 830951 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the program basically does "enqueue the next input just after the marker" < 1349744669 335359 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at the beginning of a loop, the marker is at the end and the previous input (which hasn't been printed yet) is at the front < 1349744684 101957 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you output it, it will go after the marker and you don't want that < 1349744696 15244 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so first you input the next char, then only you output < 1349744722 353226 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [prev ... 255] INPUT OUTPUT [... 255 curr prev] < 1349744756 665147 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have a loop that will go through the '...' which are all the older inputs < 1349744757 444502 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349744783 850829 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the loop says "while the front byte is not 255, go to next" < 1349744813 235704 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric : INC BEGIN while not 255 DEC NEXT INC END DEC < 1349744816 446698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the program should work... < 1349744840 354209 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I thought too, but apparently the 255 is outputted < 1349744859 618510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then there must be something wrong with the interpreter. < 1349744861 383929 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll try it with the interpreter linked below < 1349744908 520897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo {}[] | iconv -f iso646-fi < 1349744911 612546 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: illegal input sequence at position 0 < 1349744946 424900 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, very funny < 1349744949 707535 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :./sceql_ref '-&=\&*_\-=_/-=/' < 1349744949 896672 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unable to open file < 1349744954 31464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo {}[] < 1349744957 197147 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​{}[] < 1349744992 383117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a file, not a program string. < 1349744998 214542 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know < 1349745004 416563 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it was funny < 1349745012 485962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1349745028 269415 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so command > name just creates a new file? < 1349745041 60173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, with the output of command < 1349745053 952931 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to try echo '-&=\&*_\-=_/-=/' > ./sceql_ref < 1349745060 340844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will also happily overwrite an old one < 1349745073 388435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops :) < 1349745097 259008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T DO THAT < 1349745145 317362 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo 'this is a test' | ./sceql_ref cat.ttt < 1349745145 491636 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a test < 1349745153 10336 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I forgot the hexdump < 1349745160 565559 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no question mark, so I guess it works fine < 1349745164 304255 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gggggh < 1349745176 425402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayhaps < 1349745190 887726 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet, it works fine :( < 1349745199 558300 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is something wrong with the damn interpreter < 1349745208 928058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad trombone < 1349745284 949074 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so proud that it was shorter than the reference interpreter and yet accepted both single-char command and plain text < 1349745312 295929 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you could have a program "INC _ iozguqn INC" and it would still perform three increments < 1349745408 804489 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I'll try the same program but with 254 as a marker instead < 1349745423 891814 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it doesn't work I'LL TRY 253 < 1349745502 171420 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :./sceql_ref cat2.txtsceql < 1349745502 348556 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program contains no instructions < 1349745508 476540 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1349745561 17065 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349745736 544167 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooook < 1349745742 719452 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so with 254 as a marker < 1349745748 356950 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still prints an extra 255 < 1349745823 837363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::þ < 1349745879 782856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancee < 1349745915 356710 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so here's my resolution: at 3:30 in the morning I will NOT debug a sceql interpreter in C < 1349745993 671710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 3:30 in the morning for you < 1349746004 110210 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 3:26 < 1349746016 893890 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait does that mean I have four minutes to debug it < 1349746025 887617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1349746027 306967 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a little short < 1349746032 163006 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:27 now < 1349746037 379021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a real rockstar ninja hacker could do it < 1349746046 65251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sic transit gloria resolutionum < 1349746047 739311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just chug some redbull and bro out to some killer kodez < 1349746205 213170 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so you code < 1349746304 315394 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my time is up gnight < 1349746342 875200 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi the parser doesn't seem to be the problem < 1349746345 997253 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wonders what sceql is
< 1349746367 308529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely suggests searching the wiki
< 1349746375 952230 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man sceql < 1349746379 552372 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1349746407 204149 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349746407 529834 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you have a queue and you can push stuff to it < 1349746408 75613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people have spoken: sceql has awful documentation. < 1349746432 519774 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe that would give me some good Clojure practice < 1349746446 493523 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I'm sure you'll find closure by programming in sceql < 1349746455 131932 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although elliott once said that he would not use interpreters written in Clojure, and that scared me off from Clojure for a long time < 1349746544 19365 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey btw if someone would be so kind as to tell me whether this is good programming style or not: http://pastebin.com/5dmVMpcq < 1349746565 498817 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :appart from the fact that there are no comments < 1349746620 798521 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two functions : the function instruction returns the instruction pointed to by the array index (with the side effect of modifying the index if the instruction was not just one char) < 1349746652 20144 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the function parser which takes a sceql program and overwrites it with a parsed sceql program < 1349746816 205164 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1349746859 480593 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know the functon instruction looks slightly like a hack < 1349746872 430222 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clojure seems like it would be... overkill, somehow < 1349746936 522607 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway gnight < 1349746939 882360 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night Arc < 1349746957 375786 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only fifteen minutes between the first and second gnights, not bad) < 1349746966 650834 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@78.245.243.132 QUIT :Quit: that's dr. turing to you, punk < 1349747282 678211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh Arc_Koen's quit message is something I said here recently < 1349747297 728098 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a fan of instruction(). < 1349747359 181067 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-188-237.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349747365 263534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't that use some kind of string comparison instead of all that character/pointer stuff < 1349747425 754099 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think so. < 1349747524 364520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcmp looks useable < 1349747839 328980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Arc_Koen you might want to use something like if (*i + 3 < l && !memcmp(&(p[*i+1]), "EXT", 3) { for that < 1349747839 502501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1349747947 866824 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1349747957 45553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's the same as p + *i + 1, and that p and *i could be combined somehow, but i'm not a C style expert. < 1349747961 325185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1349747997 965898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can pointers be compared usefully with < ? < 1349748059 430450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm there's that undefined behavior if you go too far outside the allocated memory. < 1349748209 446905 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-231-162.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1349749288 414810 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349749308 422237 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1349750129 842498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1349751542 208046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, tswett arpdoop < 1349752315 579134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, C guarantees that a pointer one past the end of an array is a valid value, for use in comparisons like this < 1349752341 883842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more than one past the end is probably UB < 1349752367 594604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you're not allowed to dereference that pointer to one past the end of the array < 1349752664 43083 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349752903 879852 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349752939 826390 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349753062 855553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1349753915 869994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1349754932 493277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^32 channels and nothing on... < 1349754973 941047 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349755375 200583 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-31-108.singnet.com.sg JOIN :#esoteric < 1349756676 899498 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349757956 476071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1349760575 201647 :aloril_!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349761339 594667 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349761568 716953 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me of a funny bug I found... some function was taking a buffer pointer and length, but in a context where it was "known" it wouldn't overflow it was being used with INT_MAX as the buffer length < 1349761627 23653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :leading to some funny effects when the buffer address had ... certain values < 1349762705 875705 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349762767 17251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that < 1349762937 881291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen the thing in question, but I would guesstimate it had something to do with buf+len < buf (or a test of p < buf+len with p in the buffer falsely failing) with len of INT_MAX and buf too high up. < 1349762963 189203 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, somewhere in the function there was some "safety" check to see that the pointer was still inside the buffer < 1349763776 851681 :TheJimmyJames!~TheJimmyJ@107.6.15.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349764620 857687 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1349765098 813863 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1349765262 559309 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1349766023 747351 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349766361 296702 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1349767079 432388 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 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:lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1349779616 946193 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1349779617 580577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 8h 49m 38s ago: you might want to use something like if (*i + 3 < l && !memcmp(&(p[*i+1]), "EXT", 3) { for that < 1349780080 289528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349780203 243973 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349780229 328481 :donmarquis!~donmarqui@gateway/tor-sasl/donmarquis QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1349780947 453901 :barts!~barts@p4FD0E01E.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349781058 778519 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349781127 65506 :barts_!~barts@p57AE9E56.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349781197 834787 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1349781728 326554 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349783168 82288 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349783173 683551 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1349783173 863274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1349783203 590147 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone recommend a C++ tutorial for someone coming from Haskell with the aim of using the Unreal Development Kit? < 1349783293 670394 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1349783293 871912 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1349783363 664884 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pong < 1349783364 99590 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1349783427 257743 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1349783652 82847 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1349784331 787545 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349784535 468139 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349784539 208308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1349784815 634237 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Unreal Development Kit. Haskell. How much point is there trying to get both at once if I have a reason to use the former? < 1349784837 446235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: "get" both? < 1349784846 80265 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the UDK in Haskell < 1349784875 780558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds difficult < 1349784924 467989 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1349784963 727092 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To do it, I'd need to use Haskell's FFI to do C code which does C++ code which does the UDK < 1349784985 84831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't bother < 1349784990 565740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a full-time project to get them talking raelly < 1349784992 36357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*really < 1349784999 540773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't use udk in the first place tho < 1349785012 546886 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a reason to that is out of my control < 1349785023 400366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the reason < 1349785047 702910 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my friends is making a team for a competition organised by Epic Games < 1349785077 943580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely using haskell is banned somehow < 1349785086 727957 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, you just need to use the UDK < 1349785118 597614 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I will leave to look for clothes. < 1349785121 14620 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye. < 1349785122 371165 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349785134 395113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP TANEB < 1349785315 522805 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, if I design an esolang and it turns out to be very very similar to something that already exist, what do I do? < 1349785333 163154 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I create a page nonetheless (with reference to the other in a "see also" section), or not? < 1349785366 856969 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can create it if you want to < 1349785379 29639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even have to mention the similarity if you don't want to, although someone else might notice and add it < 1349785395 790984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether it's worth adding despite the similarities is up to you < 1349785416 183709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have languages that are identical to others with only minor syntactic changes, after all, although they're not very well-liked (brainfuck equivalents) < 1349785576 964782 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it happens to be a brainfuck derivative :( I thought about it yesterday, and of course something similar already exists (I think all brainfuck derivatives already exist) and I'm thinking it feels counterproductive to make pages for all brainfuck derivatives I can think of, because everyone can think of them < 1349785593 188455 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would probably not have asked if it was not a brainfuck derivative) < 1349785721 17423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, brainfuck derivative =/= brainfuck equivalent < 1349785733 447830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to say more without knowing more about your language, really < 1349785756 990484 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the idea is that the code is contained in the data tape < 1349785774 527537 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tape is finite (initially as long as the program itself) < 1349785790 262335 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two pointers, both initially pointing to the same cell (the instruction pointer and the data pointer) < 1349785810 72818 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tape is circular, and there is an instruction to create a new cell (so that memory isn't bounded) < 1349785825 139431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems a lot more interesting than other BF derivatives < 1349785827 403156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the similar language? < 1349785827 745588 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course "self-modifying brainfuck" already exists < 1349785849 17843 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it doesn't have a finite tape < 1349785888 825058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds different enough < 1349785893 239479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like there's limited space on the wiki, anyway < 1349785905 743309 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'll create a page then < 1349785907 34285 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1349785932 263665 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written a pretty detailed description, but I have no name < 1349786510 888773 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349786790 113227 :barts!~barts@p4FD0E01E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :circlefuck < 1349786824 285990 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1349786827 107508 :barts!~barts@p4FD0E01E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1349786920 965859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qq q q q qqq qq Qq q q qqq < 1349786974 436776 :barts!~barts@p4FD0E01E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :od name too < 1349786981 259481 :barts!~barts@p4FD0E01E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*good name too < 1349787022 973471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These images are epic, it's like Reddit, only on github!" -- actual github comment < 1349787100 51484 :barts!~barts@p4FD0E01E.dip.t-dialin.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like twitter, only on livejournal < 1349787295 621755 :DAZ44!~Damien@mfr49-gw.rain.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1349787324 552234 :DAZ44!~Damien@mfr49-gw.rain.fr PART :#esoteric < 1349787389 392264 :DAZ44!~Damien@mfr49-gw.rain.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1349787392 388023 :DAZ44!~Damien@mfr49-gw.rain.fr PART :#esoteric < 1349787492 140965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "@tell DAZ44 $(welcome DAZ44)" < 1349787504 535611 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@tell DAZ44 DAZ44: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1349787577 522683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that thing still < 1349787578 59664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft < 1349788372 36234 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349788432 300636 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349788456 349427 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1349788584 49762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349788872 83860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349789448 421658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349790286 491682 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349790368 328153 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1349790717 333687 :Guest86966!~root@cl-300.bos-01.us.sixxs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349790754 893548 :trout!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349791411 907911 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-60.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349791705 350332 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349792184 840851 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349792400 421606 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349792569 606003 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurmpf I almost did it again < 1349792586 607142 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@masseges? < 1349792586 774535 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1349792597 708095 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, I can't write "followed with"? < 1349792638 859959 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's "followed by"? < 1349793083 446034 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349793157 852898 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the context? < 1349793788 511572 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh well in both cases it was a character in a string, followed by another character < 1349793790 460562 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1349793813 297743 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well I naturally write "followed with" but apparently I should write "followed by" < 1349793825 689280 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, "followed with" sounded like english < 1349793913 332183 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is a ridiculous language < 1349793930 457159 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1349793936 999448 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So true. < 1349793939 902890 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Vikings who spoke French trying to talk to Germans in Latin < 1349793955 796192 :jiella!~jiella@cs27103076.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349793960 442681 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually almost true) < 1349794022 371815 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While I could talk for about 5 minutes about the history of the English language, I'm not going to. < 1349794171 873024 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that language have existed for centuries or millenia, and you can only talk about its history for five minutes?! < 1349794177 931653 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must talk really fast < 1349794333 246365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo millenia < 1349794430 633933 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-31-108.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1349795234 928608 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-175-189.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1349795253 906813 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-175-189.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1349795261 214292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spoke english before it was cool < 1349795453 788598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you know anything about ancient versions of borland turbo c++ < 1349795497 934465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349795550 30360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this is a non-philosophical question < 1349795669 643147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1349795677 145670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i did use openwatcom c yesterday < 1349795859 140531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow < 1349795859 965363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why < 1349795870 80977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to compile a dos program < 1349795903 207451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend wrote a program for AVR that blinks some LEDs in patterns to induce hallucinations < 1349795911 980362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i decided to convert it to a DOS program that blinks the screen < 1349795914 656920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no particular reason < 1349795953 390395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work < 1349795973 658298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda < 1349795989 706079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also used openwatcom c for http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com/2010/10/programming-jvf-2010.html < 1349796039 305098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :define kinda < 1349796043 208930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you only sort of hallucinate < 1349796046 157846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349796049 36753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349796057 433436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really work unless it fills the entire visual field < 1349796076 88876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produces standing waves in the primary visual cortex < 1349796085 199327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds like star trek but there are actual neuroscience papers about this < 1349796092 245297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my friend is a co-author on one of them) < 1349796143 753313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how naive i was back when i wrote this < 1349796145 910906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought "public domain" < 1349796149 249514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was a thing < 1349796173 410081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :public static void doMain() < 1349796183 191697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaah < 1349796355 520171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349796378 449832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny to read old code and pick apart my old style < 1349796416 854764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only indented two spaces < 1349796444 287986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i thought "while (foo) { }" is more readable than "while (foo);" < 1349796446 247972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure now < 1349796530 839607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1349796585 202426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Don't you hate it when you get disconnected from IRC and your replies to things get dropped and also you miss other things other pepole say?? < 1349796590 557046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1349796593 845330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly should make unrelaible internet connections illegal < 1349796604 828687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i run irssi on ec2 and connect to it with mosh < 1349796618 318943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You need an endorsement line on that advertisement. < 1349796629 54658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm keegan and i approved this message < 1349796634 494058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYWAY kmc: i like the comments on that entry < 1349796646 748965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use irssi except I hate irssi's interface. < 1349796830 881507 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-145-2.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1349796942 309873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any good IRC clients. < 1349796960 740060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what about @ < 1349797062 997265 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1349797094 228312 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349797420 148831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, http://www.ousob.com/ng/borcpp/ng365.php < 1349797559 414086 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh crap, forgot lunch < 1349798376 832937 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-129-105.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349799061 89978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1349799216 403948 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new bitbucket look… < 1349799218 432946 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Facebook < 1349799220 349926 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1349799232 395797 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is sad. < 1349799411 342806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look anything like facebook < 1349799444 531984 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm hmm. < 1349799525 372301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they're both blue < 1349799744 142969 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top blue bar with logo on the left, search and account dropdowns, user pages are timelines, project pages (now like “Pages” on Facebook) expect your project to have a face—err, logo—placed exactly where Facebook puts it. < 1349799993 803482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349800332 311020 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1349800360 64056 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why... < 1349800369 489524 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I looking at the Tumblr tag for Haskell? < 1349800394 95667 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, when did the bitbucket redesing thing happen? < 1349800397 192742 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must've been very recent < 1349800467 502278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1349800538 779723 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349800544 763483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1349800546 99424 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1349800580 527932 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Today. < 1349800588 773804 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Opinions? < 1349800762 55710 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole "pretend to be Facebook" thing seems a bit silly, what with the colour scheme and whatnot < 1349800797 418334 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-16-83.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1349800802 639403 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-16-83.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1349800829 238383 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1349800850 85288 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though on the brighter side of things, I do like the icons for various actions in the newsfeed < 1349800901 26942 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there are lots of little improvements that help things, I overall prefer the new UI. < 1349800917 234143 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that if I recommended Bitbucket to a friend right now, I'm 100% certain that they'd ask me why it's trying to be Facebook. < 1349800959 620124 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1349801008 801670 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349801170 964897 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-16-83.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0xbe440ff0 < 1349801172 235645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3192131568 < 1349801200 768734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beaaoffo. < 1349801424 746856 :Guest86966!~root@cl-300.bos-01.us.sixxs.net QUIT :Changing host < 1349801424 868813 :Guest86966!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1349801468 609823 :Guest86966!~root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :Guest86967 < 1349801493 944245 :Guest86967!~root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1349801901 402089 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1349801902 143252 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1349801993 687506 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-81.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1349804286 844302 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1349804872 717675 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349805084 984295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1349805096 411064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349805277 365428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349806914 929712 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. who the hell manes their web browser browsex? < 1349806919 486647 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*names < 1349807054 906202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349807065 859597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349807080 203408 :AnotherTest!~tim@94-224-16-83.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349808112 25571 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A really desperate person with a forehead fetish < 1349808219 689003 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :harr harr, brow sex < 1349808286 661760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A win32 programmer. < 1349808324 530587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much RegisterClassEx and CreateWindowEx and such. < 1349808342 82791 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fed up with Browse? try BrowseEx! < 1349808358 304068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or BrowseExW if you want unicode support) < 1349808361 756070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's browseex, olsner < 1349808385 316947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe they found the developer at ExpertsExchange. < 1349808414 687918 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, ok < 1349808436 500663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brows, named by someone *right* after calling creat. < 1349808818 748256 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :expertsexchange? < 1349808860 37697 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1349809013 792422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It used to be at expertsexchange.com, I believe. < 1349809021 681669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They added a dash later. < 1349809093 386368 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1349809118 717644 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be awesome url < 1349809172 605574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also Pen Island at penisland.net -- they sell pens. < 1349809187 839701 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was deliberate, I'm sure. < 1349809189 582445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rather likely to be intentional, though. < 1349809191 626511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1349809199 126507 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's Who Represents < 1349809214 878063 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1349809218 532987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the slogan for Pen Island is "Your Pen Is Our Business". < 1349809236 146059 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many people looking for penisland will end up buying a pen after coming to pen island? < 1349809381 721947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the Holland's Hit Festival site at hollandshitfestival.nl. < 1349809411 857964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and that Therapist Finder service. < 1349809440 630428 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a list? < 1349809442 568254 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Holland Hit Festival sounds like it would be better english, as well as a less unfortunate domain name < 1349809459 543001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The site is all in Dutch anyway. < 1349809479 862804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: There are several articles. Probably someone has made a combined list too. < 1349809490 803081 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1349809500 427924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Worst domain names" is a good search keyword I'd guess. < 1349809832 250152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They seem to tend to be titled "unintentionally bad", but many of them are probably not. < 1349809835 680809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.boredpanda.com/worst-domain-names/ has 30, that's long-ish. < 1349809847 521297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I remember that Powergen Italia page from before, too. < 1349809866 827322 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that one is actually funny < 1349810198 802628 :nortti!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1349810583 457755 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-81.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1349810750 879876 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349810757 31255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1349810889 449904 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1349811001 519948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Dungeons&Dragons character has now advanced one experience level up. < 1349811013 678065 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell yes. < 1349811157 893119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So now you're zz939? < 1349811165 104962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/9/o/ < 1349811204 817486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, my Dungeons&Dragons character is actually named Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe and did not change his name. < 1349811222 850543 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iuckqlwviv, nice name < 1349811264 746586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually use the name Kjugobe, although the DM cannot pronounce either. < 1349811274 337078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sequence [map pred,map succ,rot13] "Iuckqlwviv Kjugobe" < 1349811276 740942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["Htbjpkvuhu\USJitfnad","Jvdlrmxwjw!Lkvhpcf","Vhpxdyjivi Xwhtbor"] < 1349811336 664525 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vhpxdyjivi Xwhtbor sounds good < 1349811356 549489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what else is a nice name? < 1349811359 288412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name comes from the following algorithm (I programmed it on my graphing calculator): Roll d6, 1=stop, 2,3=vowel (use d6), 4,5,6=consonant (use d20), and then repeat. < 1349811359 626884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1349811367 95282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You should /nick oerjan2 < 1349811398 420638 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am not related to oerjan, so that would be confusing < 1349811415 16650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You would be if you /nicked oerjan2! < 1349811417 991428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :∎ < 1349811422 58545 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I would not < 1349811427 489090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you would. < 1349811433 339351 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :would not < 1349811433 423266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd be related by having almost the same nick. < 1349811444 547613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 290833 experience points in total, by now. < 1349811454 350155 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1349811456 563440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 290833 / 4159 < 1349811457 961702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 69.92858860302958 < 1349811459 536698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coïncidence? < 1349811460 817297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1349811468 585603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 290833 / 4951 < 1349811468 670166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what? < 1349811470 82756 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 58.74227428802262 < 1349811474 147991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*There*. < 1349811476 357108 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349811477 448715 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what? < 1349811478 38532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coïncidence? < 1349811486 407091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to calculate? < 1349811495 845966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your XP/4951 < 1349811499 764828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1349811508 854614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accounting for inflation. < 1349811522 410528 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the significance of 4951? < 1349811532 800765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean? < 1349811534 103899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no inflation involved. < 1349811538 115166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure there is. < 1349811547 149435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :XP used to be worth much more way back when. < 1349811562 34941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMs just give it out indiscriminately these days. :-( < 1349811564 168602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you trying to convert it to a different system? < 1349811679 722677 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming your xp starts at 1, I'd say the inflation-adjusted xp is always 1 < 1349811680 521677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1349811687 950011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, my XP starts at zero. < 1349811695 477729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1349811706 215035 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok, I don't know how to deal with zero < 1349811718 245382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to divide by zero? It is difficult, because dividing by zero is not allowed. < 1349811765 957664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have to use limits and whatever, and to know when it is applicable and not applicable to the calculation. < 1349811768 386353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fascists. < 1349811778 937688 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, that stuff is tricky < 1349811779 756739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know how to divide by infinitesimals. < 1349811785 6052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is basically the same thing. < 1349811798 504813 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Quit: . < 1349811844 803644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Icosahedral RPG, 1XP is worth ten of D&D3.5e XP, I think. < 1349811863 923678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much is that in US dollars? < 1349811866 972648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But D&D3.5e is older than Icosahedral RPG, so they aren't always worth more in the past. < 1349811867 517136 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1349811895 591126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know. In gold coins, 1XP (in D&D3.5e) = 5gp, so I don't know what you would convert gold coins to United States currency. < 1349811916 163806 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Client Quit < 1349811928 350582 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1349811928 434879 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1349811928 856131 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349811950 694580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How heavy is 1 gp? < 1349811956 933868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/50 pound < 1349811999 205815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"5*(1/50 pounds) of gold" W|A €399.79 current commodity price. < 1349812022 174163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that seems like in euros? < 1349812026 92073 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1349812032 405338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you want it in US? < 1349812051 686295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, close enough. Apparently it's $514.62. < 1349812064 578796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A automatically selects currency units by geoip trickery, I believe. < 1349812111 19834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It automatically selects many things by geoip trickery, I think. Will it use geoip to figure out the sunrise/sunset times, and to figure out the hour angle of the sun, and so on? < 1349812154 93904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it even deal with hour angle directly, or do you need to convert it from right ascension? < 1349812179 200582 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1349812180 268548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried to ask any astronomical questions about it. < 1349812205 450842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "sunrise" gives me today's sunrise in Espoo, Finland, which is the city I'm in, at least. < 1349812232 58874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know right ascension and declination works, although you cannot seem to specify J2000 and so on. In addition, it doesn't seem to work with ecliptic coordinates, except with the very limited query "astrological sign". < 1349812345 310398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You will get the ecliptic longitude of the sun, but only the sign and not the degrees within the sign; it doesn't seem very useful with such low precision (only 12 slices of the circle), and aren't W|A supposed to be scientific?) < 1349812512 562062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would make more sense to treat "astrological sign" as an angular unit rather than a query in itself (of course it could automatically expand "astrological sign" by itself into "ecliptic longitude of sun in astrological signs", which is what I think it ought to do). < 1349812734 465334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and even if you do request astrological signs, it should tell you the degrees past the beginning of the sign, too. < 1349812800 555669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a perpetual work-in-progress, I suppose. Maybe some day it will. < 1349812853 582703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think we should work together to make the FOSS version of a similar thing in Haskell. < 1349812881 619423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it might start with not quite as good, but eventually becomes much better much quicker. < 1349812956 787302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1349812997 543198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you know that if you made a FOSS version of Wolfram|Alpha, but in Haskell, it would quickly be much better than that crippled thing Wolfram has. < 1349813018 244261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't someone been working on that for a while < 1349813019 866129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1349813035 55376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not right away; it would take some time first, and then it would improve more quickly than Wolfram|Alpha improves. < 1349813037 572366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think someone made a version of mathematica, and then was hired by wolfram < 1349813050 659337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it matters what language you use here < 1349813069 898986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most of the value in W|A is in a billion hard-coded special rules for understanding various kinds of data < 1349813077 651565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean it would quickly become better, I mean it would eventually improve much more quickly, so eventually it probably would be better, at least at some things, if not all. < 1349813086 847778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your choice of programming language might make those rules a bit easier to write but it won't mean you magically don't need to write them < 1349813092 827572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They "curate" it. That's a hip verb nowadays, or so I am to understand. < 1349813163 305439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, yes, you would still need to write it, but with the Haskell it could be made if you have installed it you can enter English queries or you can use Haskell queries within GHCi, or a combination of both, yes you do need some rules for various kinds of data, default units, whatever else, etc < 1349813179 185328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah everyone and their dog will be banging down your door to write queries in haskell < 1349813214 476737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked Wolfram Alpha about Wolfram Alpha, but it just printed some rather banal statistics about wolframalpha.com; daily page views and index page size in KiB and a HTML element hierarchy graph. < 1349813326 761432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, you would need to have GHC installed if you want to write the queries in Haskell codes, but anyone who uses it and does have may find it useful. < 1349813472 829228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes I did think I read about it once someone was doing that in Haskell. < 1349813474 25089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: afaict the basic problem is that to improve faster than WA there need to be enough people able and willing to write queries in haskell to overtake the actual paid Wolfram employees doing the same for WA. < 1349813517 821284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but magical haskell magic will make them 1000x more efficient! < 1349813544 356502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you're not suggesting that some problems are hard or tedious no matter what programming language you use < 1349813554 185296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Someone can certainly pay someone if they use the system within their own company, to make improvement, if anyone ever does do for payment. < 1349813571 195149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: h8r < 1349813574 601597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But some things are hard, regardless of programming language, is the case, anyways. < 1349813585 932885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sk8r < 1349813588 755178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh8chaf < 1349813596 912405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goes it shachaf < 1349813606 993269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is back in CA.
< 1349813620 372386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shaChAf. < 1349813691 768239 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shalifornia < 1349813713 776159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: This is your last week of not being Old, by the way. < 1349813723 797270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use it well. < 1349813740 301896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When does Old start? < 1349813771 700716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sunday. < 1349813854 718857 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1349813958 520164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "lambdabot: @tell elliott You can probably do it like this." < 1349813963 578311 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @tell elliott You can probably do it like this. < 1349813964 200114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1349813974 430269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi oerjan < 1349813981 681432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have a pretty good nick. < 1349813985 228409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1349813990 96540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why thank you < 1349813996 662114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ørjan would be better. < 1349814006 762664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But within the confines of IRC you can't do much better than oerjan. < 1349814031 603804 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :œ < 1349814036 291539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should probably do résuméy things. :-(
< 1349814040 368799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's terribly unpleasant. < 1349814062 690897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i've had the nick oerjan since 1992/1993 or so. < 1349814085 971570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's just around the time I got the nick Shachaf! < 1349814210 811073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe even earlier, come to think of it. < 1349814225 752524 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody ever calls me atriq. < 1349814228 505553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1991? < 1349814230 985746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a good year. < 1349814236 444604 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start I'd get mixed up with Patrick < 1349814255 87235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rto13 patriq < 1349814263 51377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 patriq < 1349814269 13520 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 patriq < 1349814271 713038 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cngevd < 1349814274 14080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had the username eigil after my mud character initially, i don't remember exactly when i switched. < 1349814311 196034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably when i started using the account for mail and/or usenet. < 1349814334 874593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey. < 1349814343 983827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: HEY YOURSELF < 1349814347 359883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT'S WITH FUNGOT < 1349814358 435137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that was the "hey". < 1349814371 306953 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1349814375 102876 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 patriq < 1349814375 543056 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cngevd < 1349814405 854676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 patrick < 1349814406 192306 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cngevpx < 1349814410 443565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 fungot < 1349814410 925885 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shatbg < 1349814415 891205 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349814431 660705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cnegvpx %rax; pshufd < 1349814436 74146 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 Phantom_Hoover < 1349814436 903988 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cunagbz_Ubbire < 1349814461 522349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pshufd? < 1349814473 514363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that shuffles 16-bit values? < 1349814514 384305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know where to buy the fast ARMv2 chips? < 1349814589 915934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather than the slow ones) < 1349814608 734535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(O, and they should also be RoHS compliant, if that is possible.) < 1349814699 899560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run echo "lambdabot: @tell elliott You can probably do it like this." < 1349814700 458862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1349814700 882813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1349814750 377781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just imagine oerjan told two bots to each tell two bots to @tell you something. < 1349814756 996811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the form of a small tree. < 1349814761 278317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it would be a four-leaf clever! < 1349814811 174612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pshufd shuffles 32-bit values. packed-shuffle d-oublewords. < 1349814821 928304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1349814831 330867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because a "word" is 16 bits. < 1349814905 485671 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c sizeof "word" < 1349814909 492548 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1349814914 193040 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1349814944 459700 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1349814983 889369 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", sizeof "word") < 1349814985 852968 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1349815046 394912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("hi") < 1349815049 70118 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1349815060 646908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("@tell elliott oh no :'(") < 1349815063 256148 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@tell elliott oh no :'( < 1349815075 412417 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Womp womp, I win. < 1349815093 974913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1349815100 728634 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1349815102 509903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's Boston? < 1349815119 618596 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("\001ACTION tests\001") < 1349815121 900508 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.ACTION tests. < 1349815123 356597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you need to put "lambdabot: " at front otherwise there will be zero-width space at front. < 1349815125 76674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone tried to get me to get a job in NH the other day.q < 1349815135 868289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more boston than boston" < 1349815145 577519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :("boston" means "cold") < 1349815160 593885 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :("boston" `means` "cold") < 1349815205 145094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :means(Boston,Cold). < 1349815247 575141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boston isn't cold. when i was there it was about 30 degrees celsius. < 1349815263 176904 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: cold and grey < 1349815283 522245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :NH or Boston? < 1349815287 689224 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1349815314 833500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you went to university in NH, didn't you. < 1349815341 699156 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hello < 1349815416 933360 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1349815761 371229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 'screen' doesn't support non-BMP codepoints. :-( < 1349815763 847317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is annoyed.
< 1349815819 434953 :hagb4rd!~perdito@p5797224A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349815860 101394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :( < 1349815871 17820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are racist against ancient sumerians and elves and such < 1349815902 786785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mathematicians. < 1349815911 375438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck mathematicians < 1349815944 657067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Don't be racist. :-( < 1349815957 242635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to please mathematicians you have to include codepoints for bold italic fraktur double-strike lower case greek < 1349815986 27696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1349816000 952202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is asking for codepoints like "ℂ" too much? < 1349816007 238278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode has a bunch of copies of the latin and greek alphabets with different font-ish attributes < 1349816010 325285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That one happens to be BMP.) < 1349816020 670410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because while to normal people these are just font distinctions, to a mathematician they are semantically different characters < 1349816026 578982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bold and italic is silly, but double-struck isn't *that* silly. < 1349816039 173706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so they get different codepoints according to unicode's philosophical notion of what a character is < 1349816053 406589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :double-struck was invented as a way of writing bold on a blackboard < 1349816066 411497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now we have bold, double-strike, and bold double-strike < 1349816067 374086 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1349816079 277973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ℋ < 1349816098 277830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there are some great letters here. < 1349816143 734245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you have mathematicians do? Use *multi-character identifiers*? < 1349816168 133443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah i'm just on a rant < 1349816178 183099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps they could become more like programmers and accept multi-letter identifiers < 1349816222 435175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349816277 838976 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1349816316 329928 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d love that. < 1349816331 534203 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They already have sin, cos etc. < 1349816368 755225 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of bold double-struck comic sans inverse “s” and “c”. < 1349816406 322787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, man, we need COMIC SANS codepoints. < 1349816535 416966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1349816564 585242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/comicsans < 1349816605 415719 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Mathematics using Comic Sans wherever possible < 1349816639 476852 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-93-227.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1349816718 148462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The documentation .pdf is in Comic Sans. < 1349816733 609115 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw, yes. < 1349816744 165217 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its example of math in comic sans brings a tear to my eye. < 1349816782 331376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tear of JOY? < 1349816803 481657 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't decide. < 1349817098 641544 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am printing that bit and posting it on my cubicle. < 1349817138 5945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't miss page 5 < 1349817241 927685 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1349817685 97431 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION foolishly opens the PDF and attempts to read it...
< 1349817720 879186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you like comic sans < 1349817744 670517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SanDisk should make a music player called Comic Sansa. < 1349817768 422532 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1349817768 738610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: You have 26 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1349817779 597874 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: < 1349817779 681469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no :'( < 1349817788 773159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what happened < 1349817799 563076 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to get thread killed just watch < 1349817804 454831 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:23:19 Plugin `tell' failed with: thread killed < 1349817813 873008 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott........................... < 1349817834 158014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Are they all gone now? < 1349817854 739359 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, forever < 1349818108 907552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you still have to download a .exe and extract the font from it using cabextract? < 1349818115 882768 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1349818131 890380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i owned a sansa something or other < 1349818136 466601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was shite until i installed rhythmbox < 1349818206 611292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :franz i am, i am franz, do you like comic sans < 1349818238 802681 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1349818256 964883 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing a C compiler in ruby < 1349818268 463896 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know what? it's quite pleasant < 1349818278 302673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than writing a ruby compiler in C < 1349818284 187613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1349818296 91329 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite the fact that it's terribly wrong and lame < 1349818315 110324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your C compiler have a hip name and a nice looking website full of references to popular internet memes < 1349818315 746083 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing compilers in high-level languages makes perfect sense… < 1349818332 836467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you must be a terrible programmer with a small penis < 1349818333 809679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1349818346 466597 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking for a good compiler targetting 65c816 < 1349818357 484467 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I could easily modify < 1349818376 728669 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i just grabbed this: https://github.com/oggy/cast , and started prototyping < 1349818380 798227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 65c816 < 1349818387 922002 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the point that it actually compiles something < 1349818407 755841 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1349818436 803051 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://integratedredstone.wikispaces.com/RedPower+Control < 1349818479 732171 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-223-177.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just write Forth? < 1349818491 291724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :write forth and multiply < 1349818496 788373 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just write Fythe? < 1349818500 147902 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurp hurp < 1349818536 331198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's not an esolang? < 1349818536 500338 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-223-177.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Sadly, RP doesn't ship with a Fythe interpreter. < 1349818584 527631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's Gregor's, and he even registered an .org domain < 1349818622 458841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Gregor.org? < 1349818640 299978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hamdee Fythe, Real Estate Agent." < 1349818645 739180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, fythe.org < 1349818656 427420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pretty good name, that < 1349818685 328133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hamdee fythe) < 1349818741 959934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines him being the evil capitalist ruling hexham, montgomery burns style
< 1349819072 913137 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth is already there < 1349819084 79487 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want C cross compiler < 1349819157 364166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your program lacks a main function. What a stupid error." < 1349819176 75890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although maybe that would be a cross linker < 1349819207 696358 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1349819212 659993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1349819225 242512 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my compiler emits ACME assembly < 1349819238 674459 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ACME does not produce linkable objects < 1349819246 327568 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so linking is... uh < 1349819248 564077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :firth of forth < 1349819253 13086 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :on asm level < 1349819263 464447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have a BEEP BEEP instruction < 1349819285 113576 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but it has "halt and catch fire" instruction < 1349819295 621830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1349819313 904231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it actually < 1349819315 257691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :catch fire < 1349819323 428122 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've seen that < 1349819340 221988 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since i currently work with the emulator emulator < 1349819353 564088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-23-23-43-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i heard you like emulators! < 1349819373 479035 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ironic < 1349819423 502791 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :c compiler written in ruby targets a virtual machine running on a virtual machine < 1349819486 904180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, I remember that Powergen Italia page from before, too. <-- XD < 1349819508 92168 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :General Italia < 1349819510 967789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: It's like several dozen spoons when all you need is a butter knife. < 1349819524 960583 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but it's fun < 1349819534 827279 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1349819562 471982 :kinoSi!~kinosi@27-96-32-84.ipq.jp JOIN :#esoteric < 1349819648 29643 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1349819841 554830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the spoons aren't even ironic < 1349819851 352955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is the knife ironic? < 1349819867 547373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it's plastic < 1349819880 873001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. What a shame. < 1349819921 797863 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :smørkniv < 1349820030 949896 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :smør is an awesome word, sounds like smar, which means technical lube in Polish < 1349820105 411318 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, elliott arpdoop < 1349820120 937399 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover too < 1349820122 962034 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, ørjan? < 1349820147 863273 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no an arpdoop < 1349820167 965755 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just accidentally ardpoop < 1349820258 363043 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is terrifying < 1349820380 349147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: could be a cognate? < 1349820456 942191 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1349820655 938737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't found out how to get good norwegian etymology from the internet yet
< 1349820678 119379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a word that isn't shared with a big language < 1349820698 512797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is ACME assembly? < 1349820732 563691 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially that verb 'smarować' derived from 'smar' is used with both bread and, for example, mechanisms < 1349820761 17810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with norwegian "smøre" < 1349820790 661611 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1349820860 764792 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f 'a' = "rp"; f 'r' = "do"; f 'p' = "op"; f 'd' = "ar"; f 'o' = "pd" in fix (('a':).(f=<<)) < 1349820862 770561 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "arpdooparpdpdoprpdooparoparpdopdooparpdpdoprpdopdoprpdooparpdoparpdpdoprpd... < 1349820937 836514 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT! < 1349820952 464603 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just googled ACME assembler for zzo38 and look: http://www.esw-heim.tu-clausthal.de/~marco/smorbrod/acme/ < 1349820988 320813 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :smør everywhere < 1349821164 114993 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: that's dr. turing to you, punk < 1349821298 142992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hello < 1349821303 237127 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helllo < 1349821372 631284 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1349821378 530933 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hall < 1349821384 747223 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hal < 1349821461 337857 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just what do you think you're doing, Dave? < 1349821500 304649 :ion!ion@heh.fi TOPIC #esoteric :BEWARE THE Ø̈RJANIST MØ̈Ø̈SE | I, for one, welcome our new hash function overlords | E5081A06F9E364E179B336A2C6D6831D4B50CD7739C7E1565E03EBF2 | God made the natural numbers; all else is the work of ZARDOZ | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1349821560 249991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what changed
< 1349821724 395536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION detects a zero temperature in friday's forecast
< 1349821738 636818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is the end then. no one could possibly survive that. < 1349822156 42167 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1349822416 318083 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1349824365 361055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1349825901 693567 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:2e3d:3ef0:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving