00:00:02 -!- elliott has left ("Leaving"). 00:00:14 well i was wondering why he was in the hospital 00:00:17 but maybe nobody knows 00:00:37 mathematician's elbow 00:01:12 Motion to include Poison in Category:Shameful. 00:01:47 Housemaid's knee. 00:02:25 < elliott> 00:02:28 < elliott> 00:02:30 < elliott> 00:02:33 < elliott> 00:02:34 Waait 00:02:36 < elliott> 00:02:39 < elliott> 00:02:41 < shachaf> 00:02:42 Where did the rest of the text go 00:02:45 Wtf 00:03:02 Phantom_Hoover: second 00:03:10 it was too outrageous for your irc client to show 00:03:12 < elliott> 2012-10-11.txt:07:53:38: -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: See you in a few days if I survive). 00:03:15 < elliott> 2012-10-11.txt:07:56:19: -!- oerjan has joined #esoteric. 00:03:17 < elliott> 2012-10-11.txt:07:57:09: Just realized I probably shouldn't imply that I expect not to survive hospital :P 00:03:20 < elliott> 2012-10-11.txt:07:57:12: -!- oerjan has quit (Client Quit). 00:03:26 That's what I meant to do 00:03:40 so now somebody should quote you? 00:03:50 let's misquote a bit " Just realized I probably shouldn't imply that I expect to survive hospital" 00:04:16 I probably shouldn't survive hospital 00:04:24 let's misquote again " Just realized I probably should clarify that I expect not to survive hospital" 00:04:24 hi monqy 00:04:41 i am a penis 00:04:58 stick it in my pooper 00:05:08 yikes 00:05:15 that went south quickly 00:05:39 just like migratory birds during winter 00:06:10 (my sincerest apologies to oerjan's ghost) 00:06:43 Wait 00:06:51 Penises don't have poopers 00:11:35 if this channel had rules or anything, that could be considered offensive 00:12:02 i thought we'd established he's almost certainly better? 00:12:10 -!- Arc_Koen has quit (Quit: Arc_Koen). 00:12:34 -!- monqy has left. 00:14:59 oerjan or his ghost? 00:18:05 -!- SgeoN1 has joined. 00:18:12 both i guess 00:18:26 -!- nooodl has left ("Leaving"). 00:18:29 Finally, crossed a stable shachaf. Erm, have a stable Internet connection. 00:22:02 -!- SgeoN1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:22:07 -!- SgeoN2 has joined. 00:22:13 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:22:53 For some value of stable. Better than 3g at least. 00:25:34 One thing that the Amber core documentation does not say is how fast will it run on the Xilinx Spartan 6? 00:28:13 4G? 5G? 00:28:15 6? 00:30:51 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:32:19 http://gaslight.mtroyal.ab.ca/bottlimp.htm 00:32:19 -!- SgeoN2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:34:54 -!- Zerker has joined. 00:39:05 -!- Nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:47:36 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:52:12 -!- Sgeo has joined. 01:03:32 -!- Nisstyre has joined. 01:07:28 damn it Lenovo, why won't you take my money 01:12:11 kmc: I hear Apple has MacBooks Air with 8GB RAM & i7. 01:12:22 What are you trying to buy? 01:22:18 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:26:57 you can't use clojure in GPL'd projects 01:27:08 the EPL's patent clause is ironically considered "additional restrictions" by the GPL 01:27:14 shachaf: no nipple pointer though 01:27:33 oh boy my two favore things: Clojure and arguing about software licenses 01:27:47 True. 01:28:52 kmc: Did you hear the RethinkDB code is out? 01:28:56 also the keyborad is probably worse 01:28:57 oh really 01:28:59 cool 01:29:00 Apparently they've decided to AGPL3 it. 01:37:22 kmc: Why aren't laptops getting the crazy high-resolution displays? 01:41:38 because copying apple takes time 01:46:18 Apparently you can get a $400 2560×1600 tablet these days. 01:46:34 But the laptop people don't even care! Ridiculous. 01:50:11 -!- shubshub has left. 02:04:51 -!- sirdancealot7 has joined. 02:08:25 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:11:34 -!- SgeoN2 has joined. 02:37:46 -!- evincar has joined. 02:45:08 http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beach/fig2-16.jpg 02:47:14 This client has no rewson to be running. 02:47:22 -!- SgeoN2 has quit (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )). 02:52:18 -!- nooodl has joined. 02:57:07 -!- evincar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:02:19 -!- evincar has joined. 03:09:46 "One of the most familiar images in New York transit history" 03:09:53 Should I feel bad for not recognizing it? 03:10:19 -!- zzo38 has joined. 03:10:23 obviously 03:10:48 -!- evincar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:12:41 -!- evincar has joined. 03:14:20 -!- evincar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:20:20 also i'm impressed you back-resolved what web page that appears on 03:20:31 -!- evincar has joined. 03:21:38 kmc: The filename has a clue. 03:24:27 What is your opinion of this? http://www.chessvariants.org/index/displaycomment.php?commentid=29641 03:25:27 -!- evincar has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:29:50 -!- evincar has joined. 03:32:04 -!- evincar has left. 03:36:09 zzo38: hey, is your Chronojournal still hosted somewhere? it was interesting 03:37:52 -!- monqy has joined. 03:42:55 people don't understand probability 03:43:06 if you say that something has a 25% chance of happening and then it happens, you are an idiot 03:43:41 hi 03:44:10 what if it doesn't happen are you still an idiot 03:44:11 imo yes 03:44:42 yeah most likely 03:44:55 hi monqy 03:57:18 zzo38: You have a brother? 03:57:22 Who invents chess variants? 03:57:48 shachaf: Yes I have a brother who has invented some chess variants. 03:58:00 Who invented more, you or your brother? 03:58:04 nooodl: I still have the software but there is no data. 03:58:16 shachaf: I did. However, some we have invented together. 03:58:26 Is it a competition? 03:58:29 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 03:58:45 shachaf: No. 03:59:04 Who's winning? 03:59:41 Well, we have not played all of these games, but I won sometimes and he won sometimes. I have not keep track. 04:01:19 There are four files not yet published: http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSbackgammonches http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSrecapturablech http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSwithdrawingche http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSkirachesskiras 04:05:31 Ooh, backgammon+chess? 04:05:33 Sounds fun 04:21:11 Yes 04:25:40 -!- augur has joined. 04:31:56 -!- ogrom has joined. 04:32:33 -!- ogrom has quit (Client Quit). 04:38:50 * Sgeo goes to actually click the link 04:39:49 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 04:42:49 guys 04:43:01 should i vote for the Green-Rainbow Party candidate for President of the United States? 04:43:29 the hell is that? 04:43:53 "It is the Massachusetts state affiliate of the Green Party of the United States." 04:44:22 yes 04:44:42 and there is zero chance that my vote will actually affect who is president 04:44:54 do you support rainbows? 04:45:07 because MA will almost certainly go for Obama, and because any world where MA goes for Romney is a world where Obama is hopelessly fucked nation-wide 04:45:13 Bike: yes 04:45:15 the more the merrier 04:45:21 You should vote for yourself. 04:45:23 you know what you must do 04:45:25 kmc 2012 04:45:33 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm 04:45:53 that's right: vote for a version of yourself that has been blessed by the prism gods 04:45:56 My dad thinks that NY might actually go Romney because of low turnout 04:46:16 that seems... unlikely 04:46:28 does your dad have any evidence or credibility 04:46:44 No. 04:47:16 urban areas probably recover faster from the hurricane 04:47:23 and your voting place is just down the street 04:48:04 you don't have to drive around suburbia avoiding fallen trees 04:48:52 and Obama is ahead by 20-30 points so... 04:56:06 "Indoor laundry drying 'poses a health risk'" 04:56:19 was confused until i realized it's the BBC and remembered that clothes drying machines haven't been invented in the UK yet 04:56:46 i think because of nazis or something 05:00:19 like fan death, except dryer death 05:00:35 they're pretty rare in italy too 05:00:56 but average household power allotments is much much smaller there than it is in the UK or here 05:13:47 Sgeo: Do you think that game is OK? 05:14:01 zzo38, I only looked at the Chess+Backgammon one 05:14:43 zzo38, interesting, although can games go indefinitely? I note that bearing off is actually reversible, in a sense, as beared off checkers can end up back in jail 05:16:35 Sgeo: Yes, I suppose it might, although checkmate always ends the game too, and there is the randomness involved too. 05:17:00 But it is possible to miss a turn in the chess game, sometimes!! 05:20:07 (Because of this, there is no draw by repetition.) 06:00:16 having not paid attention in several minutes: what about the 50 move draw? 06:03:05 Bike: There is no 50 move draw. The only draw is not having a legal FIDE move (if not in check). 06:03:20 ah. 06:18:12 You can make other suggestion if you want to. 06:38:32 Do you know Chinese chess? 06:38:52 I know of it, barely. 06:39:17 Er, wait, Chinese chess more than Japanese chess, yes. If Chinese chesss is the one on a star of david looking thing. 06:40:36 Neither game is played on a Star of David (although that is an idea, to make up a variant involving such board) 06:41:04 Probably you mean Chinese Checkers, is played on the Star of David. 06:41:12 Bike: You're probably thinking "Chinese checkers". 06:41:13 Chinese Chess is a different game. 06:41:36 oh, dammit. 06:41:37 Chinese chess, or xiangqi, is actually a chess derivative of sorts. 06:41:46 (it evolved from the same game chess evolved from) 06:41:55 And Japanese chess is based on that. 06:42:07 (aka shogi) 06:42:10 ok, that makes sense. 06:42:15 I can play all of those games. 06:43:54 I made up a variant of Xiangqi with drops similar to Shogi. http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSdroppablexiang 06:44:23 The piece with different names are considered different kind, instead of calling them different name for the same kind of piece as is normally done. 06:48:58 I mostly heard of those games in context of alternative games in Hikaru no Go 06:48:59 :/ 06:50:07 I've played Shogi. I'm not very good at it. 06:51:08 I have pieces and board of shogi, the board is made of paper, pieces are normal though. All of them fit in one small box. 06:58:06 I prefer the flat pieces used with Shogi and Xiangqi rather than the 3D figures used with FIDE. 07:20:26 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:35:59 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 08:26:51 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 08:32:39 -!- nooga has joined. 09:29:11 -!- Zerker has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:41:07 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 09:47:18 -!- atriq has joined. 09:55:01 -!- Vorpal has joined. 10:13:42 -!- tentative8lame has joined. 10:15:50 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 10:18:38 -!- tentative8lame has left. 10:19:28 -!- atriq has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:03:48 -!- ogrom has joined. 11:04:01 -!- ogrom has quit (Client Quit). 11:14:50 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 11:26:12 -!- atriq has joined. 11:27:08 Today's Hexham challenge: gatecrash birthday parties 11:27:13 Three to collect! 11:28:16 What is Hexham. 11:29:13 Jafet: The dual of Finland. 11:29:16 Whose birthdays? 11:29:19 Is it elliott? 11:29:26 I bet it's elliott, oerjan, and monqy. 11:37:50 Isn't elliott's birthday like in August or something 11:38:13 It's also in August. 11:38:19 Who said you can only have one a year? 11:38:25 True, true 11:38:40 Anyway, I must prepare for partyings! 11:38:43 Goodbye 11:38:45 -!- atriq has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:39:00 Born again elliott. 12:52:18 -!- MoALTz has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 12:52:28 -!- nooodl has joined. 13:13:13 -!- nooga has joined. 13:16:21 I'm playing with USB OTG, so far my phone handled everything I threw at it 13:16:35 hm lets try the printer XD 13:16:47 okay... "Printer connected"... now what 13:18:51 hrrm "can only print on samsung printer"? fail... 13:20:25 oh hey, I could try this USB midi device... 13:21:26 okay, it fails that 13:23:04 USB Lego IR tower: fail 13:25:42 What happens if you connect it to another phone of the same model? Which one pretends to be the host and which one the device? 13:26:00 fizzie, don't have more than one phone handy 13:26:03 Aw. 13:26:11 fizzie, but I think it depends on who has the USB OTG cable 13:26:18 since the cable itself is being detected by the phone 13:26:20 Mhm, that'd make sense. 13:26:25 even with nothing at the other end 13:26:28 Does it have more than one USB port? I suppose not. 13:26:34 nope 13:26:43 I was hoping you could connect it to itself. 13:26:45 going to try my Saitek X52 Pro Joystick now 13:27:02 well the joystick powers on... 13:27:09 but the phone said nothing 13:27:33 oh well 13:27:46 fizzie, it works with mouse, keyboard, USB sticks and that sort of stuff 13:27:54 and apparently some printers 13:28:03 hm web cam! 13:28:05 lets try that 13:28:21 old old old webcam 13:28:29 My keyboard reports "MaxPower 300mA" in lsusb -v, but it worked in the RPi's built-in USB port; was a bit worried. (Those are officially rated only for single unit load devices.) 13:28:46 hm nope 13:29:02 does the webcam even work *tries in a computer* 13:29:26 well windows says "no driver found". Linux seems to handle it as usual with older hardware 13:29:58 for the record, lsusb identifies it as a "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:0870 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express" 13:30:28 Webcam support went a lot nicer ever since that gspca thing was rolled into the mainline kernel. 13:30:43 I would try my graph calculator, but I have a TI BlackLink for that 13:30:46 so serial port 13:31:27 I have a useless webcam around here somewhere too. 13:31:50 Does 640x480 and is usable only with very well-lit targets. 13:31:53 not sure if I have any crazy stuff left to experiment with 13:31:54 oh wait 13:32:02 I have an old dumb phone with USB somewhere 13:32:06 it is a samsung as well 13:32:09 I vaguely recall that the Windows drivers worked a lot better, so maybe there's a gain setting that the Linux driver doesn't know about. 13:32:13 so that should totally work, right? XD 13:32:59 Do you have any USB wifi dongles? 13:33:12 nope 13:33:59 samsung on samsung action: both phones turned on their screens when connected, but showed no further interest in each other. One wasn't even charging the other 13:34:08 Was wondering if it'd support that. Sounds a bit pointless, but not too far out. 13:34:16 This webcam is by Saitek. 13:34:28 Saitek made webcams? 13:34:38 Apparently so. 13:34:50 I thought they only made HID devices 13:35:00 hm, HID devices is a bit silly, like PIN number 13:35:21 It looks like this: http://www.cbiz.nu/Media/Cache/Images/3/8/WEB_Image%20Saitek%20Flexicam%20webkamera%20%20webcam%20631362926.Jpeg 13:35:34 (It folds down to be a short cylindrical thing.) 13:35:59 fizzie, maybe Nokia on samsung will work better? have an old dumbphone nokia that I now use as an incredibly loud alarm clock (it rocks for that) 13:36:04 think it has usb 13:36:09 no, acronyms are words, they should be used in the clearest way without getting hung up on the etymology of the word 13:36:11 might be usb mini instead of micro though 13:36:19 You'd think the old phone would work as a mass storage device just fine. 13:36:21 Bus 001 Device 028: ID 0c45:60fc Microdia PC Camera with Mic (SN9C105) 13:36:35 I don't think it actually has a microphone, though. But maybe it does. 13:36:41 there are situations where "ATM machine" flows better than "ATM" in a sentence, and it's not like when people hear "ATM" they think to themselves "automated teller machine" 13:36:42 fizzie, my old phones don't do mass storage 13:36:55 bInterfaceClass 1 Audio 13:36:55 bInterfaceSubClass 2 Streaming 13:36:58 Well, look at that. 13:37:17 ah the nokia does USB micro 13:37:22 so yeah I think saying "Linux has good support for HID devices" sounds better than "Linux has good support for HIDs" and that's fine 13:38:06 fizzie, hey, the nokia asks if I want to connect as "PC Suite" or "Utskrift & media" to the other thing, with "Datalagring" greyed out 13:38:17 I think the last one is greyed out since it doesn't have a microsd card 13:38:39 neither of the available options do anything though 13:38:51 [4322122.491248] input: sonixj as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.2/usb1/1-1/1-1.4/input/input29 13:38:56 Hah, the camera even has a button. 13:39:27 fizzie, funny thing, that Nokia doesn't charge through USB 13:39:39 it uses a separate connector for that 13:40:27 hey, lego USB tower doesn't work on 64-bit windows 7 13:40:33 works fine on linux still 13:40:37 though not on the phone 13:41:00 My work phone (Nokia C2-01) came with a charger for the "small hole" (2mm or whatever), even though it does have a µUSB port, and can charge through that. 13:41:09 heh 13:41:36 The USB hole is in the side of the phone, under one of those tiny plastic flaps, though; the regular charger connector is in the top and always open. 13:41:42 hm what about my camera... if I can find the USB cable for that (it uses a non-standard connector) 13:42:20 I get a "type 1 (EV_KEY), code 212 (KEY_CAMERA), value 1" out of /dev/input/event10 when I press the button in the webcam. 13:42:44 heh 13:43:03 where the hell is the battery for the camera... 13:43:44 or the charger... 13:45:51 Oh yes, the camera quality was just as horrible as I thought. 13:47:36 hm what about a hub 13:47:43 I should have a powered hub somewhere 13:47:50 USB 1.1 one 13:48:39 hey I found a non-optical mouse 13:48:53 What you should plug in your phone is one of those cell-modem USB sticks; then you could make phone calls and access the Internet over it, from your phone. 13:49:07 heh 13:49:11 don 13:49:14 don't* have that either 13:50:40 found USB hub 13:50:46 not sure where the adapter to it is 13:51:02 doesn't say which voltage on the port 13:51:03 so eh 13:51:40 not going to risk that 13:52:38 fizzie, speaking of USB power, I have a USB stick here that requests two units of power 13:52:40 weird 13:52:46 it is just a 512 MB stick 13:52:57 fairly old 13:55:52 Well, as mentioned, this keyboard requests three. 13:56:02 Admittedly it has a backlight kind of a thing. 13:56:31 so I watched one video about Halo 4, since I was curious as to what the franchise is about (never played any Halo games)... Guess what the recommended list on the youtube front page is filled with now... 13:56:56 fizzie, does it act as a hub as well? 13:57:13 if so that is probably why 13:57:20 No, it's just a keyboard. 13:57:24 oh 13:57:27 backlight then 13:57:50 My #1 recommendation seems to be some *really* bizarre-looking Sonic comic thing. 13:58:09 Probably I clicked some links from the Sonic let's-play videos, they had some rather bizarre links too. 13:58:53 There's a badly drawn Sonic in a hospital bed with both hands bandaged, and an annoyed-looking Knuckles looking at him. 13:59:05 (In the thumbnail; I don't think I want to watch the video.) 13:59:34 fizzie, youtube is currently ONLY recommending Halo 13:59:35 100% 13:59:41 Heh. 13:59:50 There probably are quite a few Halo videos around. 14:00:07 I think they need a bit of inertia added to that algorithm 14:00:59 Gah. I went to the "recommended for you" page, and there the #1 hit is "Funny pics of Sonic and friends 2", where the thumbnail is a comic of Amy and Shadow kissing. 14:01:09 who? 14:01:15 I never played any sonic game 14:01:30 I know who knuckles is, but Amy and Shadow? no clue 14:01:36 Amy is canonically Sonic's girlfriend, or at least a clingy thing that'd want to be his girlfriend. 14:01:39 She's very pink. 14:02:02 And Shadow is kind of like Sonic except all edgy and dark and antihero. He shoots guns, and works for G.U.N. or something. 14:02:06 " or at least a clingy thing that'd want to be his girlfriend." <-- oh? some drama there? Unanswered love? 14:02:27 Yes, I think Sonic is mostly depicted as being annoyed by her. 14:02:46 She does seem quite annoying, so maybe that's understandable. 14:03:46 There was some backstory for Shadow, but I've forgotten what it was. Some kind of an attempt to create the "ultimate life form". 14:04:22 He's Sonic's adversary in some games, but also an ally in others. 14:05:03 I see 14:05:04 All very interesting, I'm sure. :p 14:05:12 Sonic have any sort of story to it? 14:05:18 other than, beat the boss 14:05:37 The newer games tend to have bit more of that; and then there's of course the comics. 14:07:08 Sonic 3 & Knuckles have that emerald-stealing plot, so there's a bit of a story there. 14:07:42 There was always Eggman trapping little animals 14:07:47 And turning them into robots 14:07:54 Yes, there's that too. 14:08:49 But the new games do have cutscenes and all that fluff, and a story. 14:09:25 what am I reading? 14:09:51 You're reading #esoteric, the global hub of whatever it was. 14:09:54 `welcome nortti 14:10:09 ... 14:10:14 Sonic Adventure was released in 1998/1999, does that still count as new? 14:10:14 :D 14:10:16 nortti: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 14:10:24 FreeFull: I'd say so 14:10:35 And turning them into robots <-- how? 14:10:36 but I think most people will disagree 14:10:40 FreeFull: It's threedee, it's new. 14:10:50 it seems an terribly inefficient way to get hold of the component materials 14:10:56 even if blod is quite rich in iron 14:11:02 Vorpal: The animals are still inside the robots. 14:11:06 Original Sonic The Hedgehog came out in 1991 14:11:07 fizzie, okay? 14:11:19 So 7 years between original and Adventure 14:11:28 Vorpal: Or something like that, anyway. I really don't know what the point is. 14:11:37 But 14 years between Adventure and now 14:11:38 ah 14:11:57 FreeFull: Yes, yes, but it's all "new games" since Sonic & Knuckles anyway. 14:12:41 ("Since" in the non-inclusive sense.) 14:23:43 http://hs11.snstatic.fi/webkuva/oletus/560/1305612374418?ts=176 -- yesterday, this was still a water tower. 14:24:00 (Then the two-million-litre tank fell off, this morning.) 14:24:13 fizzie, where? And was anyone hurt? 14:24:22 also, what about the flood from that 14:24:28 In Jyväskylä; and no, there's nobody living nearby. 14:24:38 Or at least too nearby. 14:25:02 I don't think those things tend to break quite that spectacularly, usually. 14:25:42 Here's a "before" shot: http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/tattijuttu0311MH_uu.jpg 14:25:52 The stump is what's left. 14:27:45 heh 14:27:57 that is a very clean break 14:47:16 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 14:51:55 -!- nooga has joined. 15:04:32 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:06:11 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 15:06:14 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:06:50 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 15:15:32 -!- sirdancealot7 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 15:16:52 -!- sirdancealot7 has joined. 15:41:22 -!- DHeadshot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:41:28 -!- DH____ has joined. 15:45:40 -!- DH____ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:45:46 -!- DHeadshot has joined. 15:46:59 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 16:02:33 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:06:13 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 16:06:25 -!- BeholdMyGlory has left. 16:37:47 -!- elliott has joined. 16:51:04 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Quit: hagb4rd). 16:53:57 04:46:28: does your dad have any evidence or credibility 16:54:02 kmc: the generalised answer to this is "no" btw 16:55:19 11:28:16: What is Hexham. 16:55:22 Jafet: what isn't hexham 16:57:01 kmc: "As of October 2009, the states of Florida, Colorado, Utah,[11][12][13] Hawaii, Maine and Vermont had passed laws forbidding bans on clothes lines." 16:57:06 kmc: laws forbidding bans 16:57:13 (re: dryer thing. why am i looking this up) 16:58:12 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 16:59:11 -!- sirdancealot7 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 17:00:03 heh 17:00:15 -!- Bike has joined. 17:00:27 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 17:01:38 -!- copumpkin has joined. 17:02:16 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Client Quit). 17:04:03 -!- hagb4rd has joined. 17:05:04 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 17:09:07 "I always thought Chan4 was a branch of BBC." -- redditor 17:10:07 that is, as i believe the kids these days say, "lulzy" 17:10:39 one of my coworkers uses that word all the time and it's like nails on a chalkboard to me 17:11:45 it sounds like he is trololololing you so that u mad 17:11:47 ugh kill me 17:12:32 there is a guy in my kitchen who is like that it is so annoying 17:16:43 elliott: ok i'll get right on that 17:17:09 ok 17:17:17 Phantom_Hoover: like, some guy just showed up in the kitchen in your house and won't leave and talks in internet memes only? 17:17:42 that would be a good plot point for a wacky post-modern sitcom slash angst-inducing existentialist play 17:18:20 no, we just share a kitchen in the halls 17:19:00 -!- Sgeo has joined. 17:23:53 that would be an awesome play though 17:30:05 -!- FreeFull has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:35:17 -!- FreeFull has joined. 17:42:54 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 17:45:02 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 17:57:53 -!- Frooxius_ has joined. 18:01:22 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 18:01:58 -!- nortti_ has joined. 18:04:53 -!- comex` has joined. 18:06:17 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (*.net *.split). 18:06:17 -!- Frooxius has quit (*.net *.split). 18:06:17 -!- nortti has quit (*.net *.split). 18:06:18 -!- clog has quit (*.net *.split). 18:06:18 -!- comex has quit (*.net *.split). 18:28:55 -!- nortti_ has changed nick to nortti. 18:37:32 -!- clog has joined. 18:40:00 -!- elliott has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:43:52 -!- sirdancealot8 has joined. 18:45:30 woah there are a lot of birds in my yard now 18:45:55 two robins, two bluejays, a bunch of sparrows, a starling, and possibly a mockingbird 18:46:54 -!- elliott has joined. 18:47:38 not as pretty as this starling though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lamprotornis_hildebrandti_-Tanzania-8-2c.jpg 18:52:27 A startling starling. 19:12:47 -!- monqy has joined. 19:19:39 -!- zzo38 has joined. 19:36:36 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:42:18 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:43:14 -!- Zuu has joined. 19:43:55 -!- Zuu has left. 19:57:32 kmc: "As of October 2009, the states of Florida, Colorado, Utah,[11][12][13] Hawaii, Maine and Vermont had passed laws forbidding bans on clothes lines." <-- lol what? banning cloth lines? 19:57:54 in what context? Sale of them or just using them to hang clothes on? 19:59:19 * Vorpal googles it 19:59:46 okay... that's weird 20:01:42 maybe because they are deemed unsightly? 20:02:02 apparently it is associated with poverty in some parts of US. 20:02:06 very strange 20:02:09 -!- Arc_Koen has joined. 20:02:18 kmc: Vorpal: you are both misreading 20:02:22 they passed laws *forbidding* bans 20:02:26 unless i am misreading you in turn 20:02:29 elliott, yeah I understand that 20:02:35 the question is why there were bans in the first place 20:02:44 elliott, I just find the concept of them being banned in the first place so weird 20:02:50 and yeah http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/us/11clothesline.html 20:02:52 elliott, so I was investigating that 20:02:54 fucking NIMBYs 20:03:00 kmc, fucking what? 20:03:23 nimbys 20:03:29 * Vorpal googles that 20:03:42