< 1352332996 727531 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352333366 878192 :Zerker!~zerker@cpe-24-24-168-181.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352334468 504303 :Zerker!~zerker@cpe-24-24-168-181.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1352334473 835101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, hey? < 1352334505 684520 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Phantom_Hoover < 1352334510 802888 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are things going? < 1352334527 923193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey no you started this < 1352334529 769128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you finish it < 1352334969 545039 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, things are going pretty well here < 1352335038 951903 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a driving license, and I just tonight shared a beer with a friend with whom things have been... rather cold... for the past several months < 1352335176 987675 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a pretty good week overall < 1352335285 291135 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only downside is my back aches a lot since sunday < 1352335390 822703 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in the middle of a first-aid course that lasts over three week-ends and we started the stretcher / carrying / whatever you call that / thing where you carry a victim, sunday < 1352335454 592864 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and half-way through it I realized the way I stood was not as perfect as I believed and well my back is doing a very good job at reminding me of that < 1352335471 196959 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352335487 295099 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the only thing you have to remember out of all that is that I'm very happy right now and feel the need to share < 1352335512 552834 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though right now it does feel like I'm talking to myself < 1352335535 298985 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power blinked out < 1352335590 753451 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have this thing in france, one day every year they ask everybody to shut down everything < 1352335595 394035 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lights, computers, tv, etc. < 1352335612 613875 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well I'm pretty sure no one ever shuts down the refrigerator on that occasion) < 1352335622 60529 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at a given time, usually between 7pm and 8pm < 1352335622 334335 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352335679 582458 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoping to show a huge decrease of power decrease over the country < 1352335691 187120 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it never works < 1352335713 338481 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at 8pm when all those who followed the movement try getting everything on again < 1352335735 233039 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it often doesn't work :) < 1352335856 250408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/07/14/because-of-constitution-error-north-dakota-is-not-a-state-and-never-has-been/ < 1352337342 695905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I figured out what was up with cs.bham.ac.uk < 1352337349 10805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a substation explosion nearby took out all the power to the entire area < 1352337360 983135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the disaster response people decided it was inessential and so didn't hook it up to a generator < 1352337700 4771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=890 < 1352338235 283289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you know that the mapping from usernames to full name at MIT is world readable via DNS? < 1352338238 299600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dig -t txt gjs.passwd.ns.athena.mit.edu < 1352338240 852045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also see what shell people use < 1352338329 795182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, kmc.passwd.ns.athena.mit.edu doesn't work < 1352338336 657350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does gjs really use tcsh < 1352338340 102256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1352338467 317359 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: can you please explain what's wrong with stargate at the end of season 8? < 1352338483 392073 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two time-travel episodes didn't make any sense to me < 1352338497 87886 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like nothing happened at all < 1352338517 821830 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the first episode of season 9 is ridiculous < 1352338520 44735 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, at that point, the plot of the first 8 seasons is finished, because the series was expected to be cancelled. < 1352338533 163412 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, completely new plot. < 1352338536 656249 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1352338550 239616 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: It's not wrong < 1352338552 287328 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they decided to end the plot three episodes before the end of the season? < 1352338572 637531 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: So at the end of nearly every season, they thought SG-1 would be cancelled < 1352338583 939152 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think seasons 1, 9, and maybe 5 are exceptions < 1352338593 141982 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 7, the renewal didn't come until very very late < 1352338599 760893 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Lost City was written to be the series finale < 1352338605 52837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my athena username isn't kmc < 1352338607 388829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's taken or some shit < 1352338615 333104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really like 'kmc' either < 1352338615 524159 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Season 8 was kind of mopping up and grasping at any unresolved plotlines < 1352338623 729369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to go by 'keegan' but i'm usually not able to < 1352338626 786672 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: they're trapped in a room with the ceiling moving down and the riddle they have to solve is to order a sequence of 9 symbols which happen to be 9 digits mirrored < 1352338649 891640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc > keegan imo < 1352338651 608795 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Season 9, they decided they needed to do a reboot, hence the episode you're watching < 1352338651 783974 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that not wrong < 1352338653 798164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is short < 1352338683 693208 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plot of seasons 9 and 10 is generally agreed to be not as good as the plot that was built up over the first 7 < 1352338740 566210 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they start the whole thing as "daniel jackson, teal'c, carter are no longer part of the team"... but the opening sequence lists them as the main characters < 1352338761 159639 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a stupid way of spoiling things, in my opinion < 1352338778 439341 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hwh < 1352338780 641624 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heh < 1352338806 992931 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, in seasons 9 & 10, landry < hammond and mitchell <<<<< o'neill < 1352338819 192973 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1352338832 525806 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like the kind of "silent humour" carried away in the episode, though < 1352338861 670113 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, most humorous series seem to feel the need to "oeverexplain" every joke < 1352338873 573254 :madbr!boulam@modemcable141.58-202-24.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1352338892 88274 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't do that in stargate (at least most of the time) and mitchell did respect that < 1352338894 625481 :madbr!boulam@modemcable141.58-202-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fast at sorting are 8bit and 16bit processors? < 1352338911 152996 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I miss hammond a lot < 1352338925 355753 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and season 8 really felt like it was the end < 1352338950 744296 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we're missing a fourth team member... uh, let's stall things for one season before getting a new character" < 1352338964 944567 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1352339053 110073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you people discussing stargate AGAIN < 1352339065 70496 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1352339077 646274 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, you mentioned I should watch atlantis at the same time as season 9, < 1352339080 571833 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Built by ancients so long ago < 1352339086 870378 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, wrong season. < 1352339102 561052 :madbr!boulam@modemcable141.58-202-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can do fast sorts you can do a graphic architecture that's really simple but can do tons of moving sprites etc < 1352339104 447902 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong season? < 1352339105 404133 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess it overlaps, but not "starting at season 9" < 1352339115 436060 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1352339123 545540 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you have any more precise advises they are very welcome < 1352339131 405592 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: The first three seasons of Atlantis and the last three episodes of Atlantis overlap < 1352339136 497374 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the SG-1/SGA overlap starts at the beginning of season 8? I'm not sure < 1352339154 184994 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, uh... last three episodes of Atlantis? Wat? < 1352339158 153144 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1352339160 244413 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last three seasons of SG-1? < 1352339161 337050 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*last three seasons of SG-1 < 1352339165 698191 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1352339173 391156 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, the last epsiode of Season 8 where they want to get a ZPM makes much more sense if you watch Atlantis < 1352339182 832364 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not "much" < 1352339185 215421 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but certainly more sense < 1352339196 473018 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I would recommend watching them concurrently, even to alternate episodes < 1352339198 505362 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should rewatch SG-1 and SGA with that overlap < 1352339202 816218 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I was assuming they'd need to find atlantis before the SGA would make sense < 1352339205 331736 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finished SG-1 before watching SGA < 1352339211 834146 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: They find it in the premiere for Atlantis < 1352339238 585171 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo you're saying at the beginning of season 9 they have already found it? < 1352339244 709807 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1352339245 742293 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they failed to mention that < 1352339246 425158 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an entire season < 1352339256 744608 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it was definitely a relevant plot point in Mobius < 1352339267 405801 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they only had the arctantica outpost < 1352339274 524071 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure at beginning of some season Daniel wants to go to Atlantis, and treats it as a regular but lengthy trip < 1352339285 1188 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :antarctica < 1352339309 796197 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes he did mention having to get aboard the daedalus < 1352339317 297283 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though never said where it was heading < 1352339327 507394 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, not at a time where I was listening < 1352339338 37603 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an SG-1 episode late in Season 9 that takes place a fair bit on Atlantis < 1352339354 261181 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it took me a certain time to make the connection with the "new ship" they had described previously < 1352339393 54610 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I should watch the first season of SGA before I continue with season 9? < 1352339398 43462 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would recommend it < 1352339400 978142 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1352339415 562079 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pegasus Project in particular will make a lot less sense without it < 1352339446 108692 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1352339955 775371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Nope. < 1352340034 311036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know many MIT people, though. < 1352340150 981982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can also finger gjs@mit.edu < 1352340164 924657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that won't tell you their shell. < 1352342207 91069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck lenovo < 1352342209 578919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why won't you take my money < 1352342264 51145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd be happy take your money and give you an unsatisfactory product. < 1352342276 884799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or they'd be happy to take a lot of your money in AUD form. < 1352342277 378128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1352342285 358684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even then they won't ship it to USA < 1352342333 351404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should move to .au. < 1352342334 986699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In protest. < 1352342380 697309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1352342772 915416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck lenovo < 1352342777 30068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish there were any other credible option < 1352343082 687757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there not? < 1352343265 231462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the pointing stick is a must-have feature for me < 1352343296 177346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though if i didn't have one, maybe i would get better at avoiding the mouse and that would be good < 1352343371 375131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot of ultrabooks have it < 1352343484 230822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Latitude 6430u does but it weighs almost a pound more than the X1c < 1352343608 370788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen sucks too < 1352343616 94899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this 1366 x 768 bullshit < 1352343771 925912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1352343790 808473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get a $400 10" tablet with a 2560×1600 screen these days. < 1352343797 465778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's happening to laptops? < 1352343923 27446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1352343927 208023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple has the retina display < 1352343933 511376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PC manufacturers will copy it within 1-3 years < 1352343938 923789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how the industry works < 1352344416 453973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1352345078 328451 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: It's a ship. It goes through the gate. < 1352346100 126159 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352347116 909322 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352347549 336413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352348857 937140 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1352349236 173268 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352350208 900780 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-149-29.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352350478 5435 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-47.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1352351291 654562 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT : < 1352351323 769653 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1352351345 173721 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest15598 < 1352351353 733809 :Guest15598!~copumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1352351366 989426 :pumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1352351602 40458 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1352351799 919761 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-47.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1352352177 739233 :TeruFSX!~quassel@65-128-149-29.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352354078 716936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conservapedia is blaming early voting. < 1352354079 589657 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/Main_Page < 1352354114 623002 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad to have contributed to the demise of conservagod, then! < 1352354187 919001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be something about voter intimidation (huh?) and security of the early ballots < 1352354192 68384 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://conservapedia.com/Early_voting < 1352354229 265291 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conservapedia is also linking to http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/akin-not-far-off-base-in-rape-comment/ < 1352354254 934417 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even clicking something with that url < 1352354353 291806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop trolling by proxyp < 1352354355 350757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :proxy even < 1352354542 897968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bing.com/elections/news?q=elections+2012+leans_center&form=bngeex&filter=leans_center < 1352354546 112840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see that slider at the top? < 1352354553 157738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bing literally has a button for "show me only opinions i will agree with" < 1352354573 425724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that's what the Internet is all about, but rarely is it so explicit < 1352355886 373652 :madbr!boulam@modemcable141.58-202-24.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1352356540 231846 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12s9wx/puerto_rico_has_voted_to_join_the_union_it_is_to/ < 1352356587 508616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is to be the 51st state" uh, that's a bit of an overstatement < 1352356598 489698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :puerto rico has passed a non-binding referendum saying that they would like to be a state < 1352356606 335885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it is up to the federal government to do something about that, or not < 1352356874 913422 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: More like, it's up to the Puerto Rican government to put together a formal application < 1352356880 880399 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to Congress to debate endlessly about taxes < 1352356933 154795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it would be too much to expect reddit to have a non-sensationalistic approach to a political story < 1352357317 860168 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1352357992 32887 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does *kinda* make sense though: Puerto Rico's unwillingness in the past has been the primary barrier to their statehood. < 1352358035 534303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that just because the other barriers haven't been tested yet, thuogh? < 1352358041 874645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know either way < 1352358054 879850 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1352359259 390071 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't entirely sure where Puerto Rico is
< 1352359274 649987 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as geography is concerned, I'm a stereotypical American. < 1352359283 194233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google maps is your guide < 1352359306 709142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is east of cuba, haiti, and dominican republic < 1352359313 13696 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was going to check Wikipedia but Google Maps is good too < 1352359362 942570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Reminds me more of Alaska than Hawaii, since there are other intervening countries between the US mainland and it. < 1352359390 970336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta be careful of the threat of invasion from haiti. < 1352359625 271243 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Puerto Rico wanted independence instead, would that be possible? < 1352359656 176804 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically. < 1352359660 745900 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My understanding is if they go state, they can't go back. I think there was some war about it < 1352359671 417806 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like territories haven't become independent before. < 1352359678 125681 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That war was a clusterfuck. < 1352359687 579234 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: They can't go back without permission < 1352359705 104086 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1352359719 913167 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a state really wanted to secede and it wasn't over something stupid, they could try to rustle support for an amendment to allow secession < 1352359735 926122 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they could try that if it was over something stupid too; it would just be less likely to work) < 1352359762 804843 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In principle a bunch of states could boot one out. < 1352359763 71576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once you go tentacle, you stay in the pentacle", like they say. < 1352359776 982092 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could just decide to make a new amendment: "Texas is not a state." < 1352359785 628159 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And approve it via convention. < 1352359785 823555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, Phillipines used to be a US territory < 1352359828 172141 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I almost mentally mixed up the Phillipines and Paraguay < 1352359844 515472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for you < 1352359863 917215 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, the philippines had previously had a few wars about becoming independent, which I don't think is true of puerto rico < 1352359916 137090 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: true < 1352359962 215092 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, in theory the entire US could be disbanded that way. < 1352359972 208682 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without Congress even being involved. < 1352360196 59962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amend the constitution to remove every word < 1352360216 71632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and replace it with a picture of a duck < 1352360244 129460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would the laws passed by Congress continue to have force even if the constitution were nullified? < 1352360270 239782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there is no framework for answering that question < 1352360277 45083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except Common Law™ < 1352360286 659481 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Only in DC. < 1352360287 815902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1352360297 645501 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congress is the government of DC. < 1352360347 429189 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if we assume that laws must get their authority from the Constitution, where does the Constitution get its authority from? IIRC, the Constitution wasn't validly transitioned to under the Articles of Confederation < 1352360361 181837 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Consent of the governed. < 1352360449 822197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Articles of Confederation were never approved by the King! < 1352360498 121277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, blah blah consent of the governed blah handwave common law social contract mumble mumble we used our guns to shoot the other guys you didn't like and now we say what goes < 1352360516 346015 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1352360552 802552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how similar organized crime and government are < 1352360595 38380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i'm a liberal, i like taxation and government services, but I still agree with the libertarian premise that at a basic level, taxation is theft < 1352360600 457761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say that it's the lesser of two evils < 1352360604 351209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wondering how to make a nomic that does that sort of thing, that the rules can be ignored if there's a war or people ... vaguely agree < 1352360610 589458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people suck and deserve to have some of their stuff stolen from time to time for the greater good < 1352360703 506015 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So, in short, you're a utilitarian who is honest about what is actually going on. :) < 1352360711 253755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i flatter myself by thinking so, yes < 1352360773 49390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta sleep now, ttyl all < 1352360908 485420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1352361007 25419 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Congress still has to call the convention < 1352361023 340392 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352361039 380202 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, pikhq_: your government is scary can you make it stop < 1352361043 712264 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352361398 160195 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352361548 636900 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1352361764 85156 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352361985 427625 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1352362380 145164 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1352392329 639090 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1352392502 496963 :atriq!~Taneb@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1352392593 337950 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, ancient egyptians don't speak english < 1352392611 139517 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other species from other galaxies do < 1352392640 693875 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think this Babel episode on earth really happened :) < 1352392857 371145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1352393084 108595 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1352393707 118111 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352394845 743429 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1352395131 789084 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, modern GPUs really don't like 16-bit colour modes... < 1352395209 24022 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352395263 298697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1352395266 703587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my system's rogue package just got updated < 1352395277 581765 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what rogue package? < 1352395294 575898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the package for rogue < 1352395295 934232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean like not in the upstream distro? < 1352395297 249427 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1352395305 776601 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not that meaning of rogue < 1352395311 465498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes that meaning of rogue < 1352395311 802893 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the changelog! < 1352395323 167709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it was just moved from the AUR into the official repositories < 1352395324 440770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a letdown < 1352395327 475513 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1352395335 988800 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you use arch still? < 1352395362 10915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1352395375 73650 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, since I basically switched away from arch you might be interested in picking up maintainership of c-intercal and tup-git on AUR < 1352395409 788199 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disowned those packages, I don't see myself using arch again any time soon < 1352395415 562828 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, your existence is driving me insane < 1352395422 119267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: why did you switch away from arch anyway < 1352395433 328063 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see someone vaguely my age I don't recognize and think "That might be elliott" < 1352395435 540805 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who knows" < 1352395453 138102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: you probably want to be looking for someone who looks younger than you < 1352395461 867542 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1352395587 716509 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I no longer have the time to spend on maintaining it. Sure it isn't as bad as Gentoo, but compared to Debian it is still a lot of work. So I went for Debian < 1352395594 120042 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Debian testing) < 1352395608 594851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clear solution is linux from scratch < 1352395611 703066 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1352395630 496241 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I do miss is PKGBUILD though, they are a hell of a lot simpler to figure out than debian's package building system. < 1352395633 91203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually find arch fairly low-maintanence personally... the only time i had to spend more effort than -Syu recently was the systemd switch < 1352395639 301771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes dpkg is sort of a mess < 1352395641 873231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also at the time I switched we *still* didn't have -dbg packages on arch < 1352395650 68744 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :have they fixed that yet? < 1352395676 236963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no separate debug packages < 1352395680 400755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they turned debugging on in the real packages idk < 1352395698 386924 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also multilib. On arch that was a joke < 1352395714 552513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had no problems with arch's multilib repo < 1352395734 775511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's complete enough for DF at least (in fact DF itself is in the multilib repo) < 1352395757 343873 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1352395779 926320 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sure but try to compile anything non-trivial with -m32 < 1352395811 777657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the problem? I have gcc-multilib installed and plenty of lib32-* packages < 1352395848 432474 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they improved that in the last few months then < 1352395852 403562 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There will always will be something with a -m32 missing or something that will try to use 64-bit stuff anyway < 1352395878 878318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that sounds like a multilib problem in general < 1352395882 359455 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc I had problems finding a 32-bit unixodbc package the last time or something like that < 1352395883 599460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than anything to do with arch < 1352395885 851875 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just using gcc built with an x86 32-bit target is easier < 1352395899 209696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know the context < 1352395907 86494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't like -m32 either but whatever < 1352395950 417332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian's multilib transition was really quite messy, especially back when tools like Aptitude couldn't really show architectures; you ended up with a lot of weirdly duplicate-looking packages. < 1352395969 757512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These days at least Aptitude seems to be reasonably good at tagging ":i386" to names. < 1352396228 274640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If only they used Kitten's solution. < 1352397130 781508 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1352397390 434760 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and what is that solution? < 1352397531 811012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: have everything in triple-specific roots, i.e. on a 64-bit system your 32-bit stuff would be in /i686-linux-gnu/lib/..., /i686-linux-gnu/bin/..., and it'd compile it with /x86_64-linux-gnu/bin/gcc-i-forget-how-gcc-cross-compilers-are-named-but-this-one-is-for-i686 < 1352397538 969354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the twist being you can also install architectures you can't even run < 1352397548 647574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you could have /armel-linux-gnu/ on an x86-64 system < 1352397569 912166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the double twist is: you could tell the package manager to use qemu-system-armel to run armel-linux-gnu binaries, just like it knows to use linux32 to run i686-linux-gnu binaries < 1352397580 234464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there wouldn't be any specific multilib packages < 1352397583 105589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :called lenovo, they say there is no launch date set for the X1 Carbon i7 8GB in the US < 1352397594 439143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd just do $ pkg install --arch=i686-linux-gnu libwhatever < 1352397603 5147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and something like dwarffortress would only be available for i686-linux-gnu < 1352397603 613909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a lot of trouble to go through for 1MB of cache < 1352397631 864772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, cache rules everything around me < 1352397698 174009 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm interesting approach < 1352397739 874646 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how do you deal with stuff doing #!/bin/sh and such? Symlink? < 1352397862 581784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't terribly many multilib-specific packages on Debian; it just installs i386 versions of regular packages. The old horrible "ia32-libs" megapackage is nowadays just a metapackage that depends on ia32-libs-multiarch, which is only available on the i386 arch and so gets installed, and which depends on the libraries that the old ia32-libs used to contain. < 1352397866 17723 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-10.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1352397867 888748 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly the whole thing is still slightly gnarly; but at least you can install almost anything from Debian-i386 without problems. Or so I believe. < 1352397899 364264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross-architecture chroots work really well actually < 1352397904 669567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :schroot can set them up automatically < 1352397906 642987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Instead of having to file a bug about "there's no ia32 version of libstrumpbyxor, I can't run my favourite software".) < 1352397914 44355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, /bin would be a symlink to /x86_64-linux-gnu/bin or such. actually you could have a "customised" /bin where it symlinks individual executables but e.g. if you tell it you want the ARM version of xchat as your /bin/xchat (for some reason??), it'd install a shell script that does "qemu-system-blah /armel-blah-blah/blah/xchat "$@"" < 1352397932 926500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: or actually you could probably just symlink directly to the armel binary and use the linux kernel's misc executables thing to have it run them with qemu < 1352397936 739567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it uses binfmt_misc < 1352397936 856916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you "get the idea" < 1352397947 82649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you can run an ARM executable on x86 transparently < 1352397950 8705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sexy < 1352397952 201968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :binfmt_misc is *really scary*. < 1352397957 139662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the best < 1352397957 519741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, binfmt_misc is what i meant < 1352397964 165748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right, Debian does it righter than most other people < 1352397967 632781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally ran an ARM executable, and didn't even notice until after. < 1352397979 51304 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right < 1352397980 399954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools qemu-user-static; mk-sbuild --arch=armel precise; sudo schroot -c precise-armel-source < 1352397995 829959 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "libstrumpbyxor"? hah < 1352398018 440312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :libschtroumpf < 1352398053 849565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: actually I think the last time I was thinking about Kitten this ended up merging with Nix < 1352398059 22650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case you wouldn't need the triple prefixes at all < 1352398128 705994 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1352398178 305593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically my point is that i686 shouldn't be treated specially for x86-64 < 1352398181 925114 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, btw I have been thinking about /etc a bit. While tools like etckeeper allows version control of it, there is an issue. It doesn't keep track of the point of diverging. < 1352398185 203017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just do it as part of a general "installing other architecture binaries" < 1352398188 861813 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means less automated merging < 1352398203 877345 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :a three way merge would be perfect for changed config files < 1352398232 193820 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you should support that in Kitten in some way < 1352398279 975668 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352398285 404888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well with nix you never actually change /etc, so maybe i could take advantage of that somehow < 1352398291 532394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i'll actually be writing kitten any time soon though :P < 1352398295 976719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay, that works too < 1352398303 832493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :packaging is just way too much work < 1352398307 638376 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1352399601 165674 :mindlessDrone!~mindlessd@vpn35-044.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1352399783 157350 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352400033 933672 :mindlessDrone!~mindlessd@vpn35-044.rz.hs-offenburg.de PART :#esoteric < 1352400440 964457 :impomatic!~digital_w@94.66.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352403427 134105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PhantomJS (headless scriptable webkit browser) does some crazy things with closures < 1352403494 358168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your script runs in its own environment, but you can pass a closure to .evaluate() and it will use globals from the loaded web page instead < 1352403563 324754 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's horrifying. < 1352403582 703836 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it even close? < 1352403607 287880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can use lexical locals, yes < 1352403613 435590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might even look in your environment first for globals < 1352403624 32192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely weird, but i'm not sure it's worse than the alternatives < 1352403627 346497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be, what, string eval? < 1352403649 52232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Kernel you can play these tricks of course < 1352403656 703726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because environments are first-class and 'eval' takes an explicit environment < 1352404039 768969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you can't use lexical locals :/ < 1352404096 711717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can explicitly pass a dictionary of stuff < 1352404291 513888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, new humble bundle out < 1352404750 886251 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Clojure you can fake an eval that takes a concrete lexical environment < 1352404770 622362 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And write a macro that obtains the lexical environment where it's expanded < 1352405894 708809 :impomatic!~digital_w@94.66.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the word that means censoring with asterisks? E.g. Brainf***? < 1352405924 240282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it has a special name < 1352406049 40429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ought to be called something offensive < 1352406073 262729 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :****ing censorship < 1352406115 355460 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :censorshi* < 1352406127 147725 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.171 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1352406231 145312 :impomatic!~digital_w@94.66.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember there's a name, but I can only find grawlix which isn't for a specific swear word... < 1352406237 754529 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1352406295 442014 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowlderization? < 1352406337 706763 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bowdlerization? (Although I think that's a specific form of... oh, you're saying specifically with *) < 1352406437 961893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "Named after Thomas Bowdler (1754-1825), who first did it on The Bible and William Shakespeare's plays" < 1352406452 411384 :impomatic!~digital_w@94.66.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. That's the one I was thinking of! It's not as specific as I thought though... < 1352406472 567342 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Craig Cockburn reported that he was unable to use his surname (pronounced "Coburn") with Hotmail. Separately he had problems with his workplace email due to the string "cialis" within his job title of "software specialist".' < 1352406512 265892 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the problem with profanity and dump spam filters < 1352406515 165272 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb* < 1352406539 621646 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, if everyone just stopped being so damn profane < 1352406576 222128 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1352406578 327356 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which may or may not be a valid way to use the word 'profane') < 1352406648 872444 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1352406835 841383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A clbuttic problem. < 1352406859 609345 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1352407069 685295 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337 o'clock whee < 1352407081 748536 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :2137 actually < 1352407164 592961 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was totally 1337 here < 1352407389 21576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzet o'clock. < 1352407427 815179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a channel I know where people used to do a long _o/ \o_ kind of dance during the minute 13:37 quite often. < 1352407507 210446 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe "Before Thomas Bowdler got a reputation one would have refered to this trope as the castration of stories." < 1352407551 470040 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o_ < 1352407553 579598 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1352407560 868746 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :need moar scripts loaded < 1352407583 459113 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1352407627 635403 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: hi < 1352407629 464355 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1352407757 760115 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah whoops < 1352407761 836737 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug in a 10 year old script < 1352407762 604302 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1352407773 915149 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work yet? \o/ < 1352407779 794786 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1352407843 253421 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :new version of mirc appears to have broken my 177kb script file < 1352407843 694274 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1352407876 910813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1352407877 554533 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :           ➵ < 1352407877 709174 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :➶                     ➴ < 1352407877 769082 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :                 * myndzi * < 1352407884 810794 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least that far down they work < 1352407885 309693 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1352407935 780611 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hang rstlne ?o??oo? < 1352407944 140741 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no file for it < 1352407950 974792 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :new computers suck man < 1352407964 639591 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't wanted to load my old copy of mirc because the paths have changed < 1352407968 967601 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will auto-remove like half my scripts < 1352407980 846760 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have all these random misc. files in the folder too haha < 1352407991 836000 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as the scrabble wordlist that the hangman script uses ;) < 1352408018 1468 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least my maze lineart properly lines up though! < 1352408058 937419 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mircscript :(((( < 1352408070 91417 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah < 1352408088 599018 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: my condolences < 1352408094 573586 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, apparently the proper unicode support broke the regex which was using pseudo-tf < 1352408101 933458 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardly, mirc is great < 1352408104 621057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this script sounds exciting < 1352408111 717380 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and awful < 1352408114 759299 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1352408116 553668 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is test.mrc < 1352408122 790343 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's where i write random shit that i don't care about < 1352408133 137764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could you not care about \o/ < 1352408134 614697 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll lol at the \o/ guy event definition < 1352408137 442641 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :on $*:text:m/(?]|([.·oº])_Â?(?!\2)[.·oº]|ಠ‿ರೃ)(?!\w)/gS:#:{ < 1352408137 562848 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                                                                                                   ¯|¯⌠ < 1352408137 622540 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                                                                                                    |\| < 1352408150 35534 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that start out simple, y'know? < 1352408156 167998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1352408161 597084 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, < 1352408164 709325 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1352408165 795717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1352408165 852329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that... a regex? < 1352408170 85362 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like uh < 1352408174 73329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely recall I had a script in a mIRC. < 1352408175 298454 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some kind of dance? < 1352408179 596434 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :both! < 1352408185 277944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also ran Xircon 1.0b4, it had a Tcl script engine. < 1352408186 897794 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have to figure out why it's failing < 1352408193 459280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is why wouldn't it fail < 1352408195 730098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it deserve to fail < 1352408196 180575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it never got past that beta 4. < 1352408196 988372 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should figure out how it worked < 1352408202 990088 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1352408205 597437 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to < 1352408206 344061 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mircscript is like perl, but... someone finish this simile < 1352408208 321993 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's lost secrets < 1352408220 413914 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :mircscript is unique < 1352408226 904766 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's perl meets the bad parts of javascript maybe. yeah it's unique < 1352408227 367952 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i know it intimately well and the client itself is excellent < 1352408240 138324 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, now i would rather write in javascript or something < 1352408252 41443 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i totally forgot there was a dude with a cane < 1352408253 150045 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1352408282 934379 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude. the regex. the REGEX... < 1352408297 118347 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i've written worse abominations < 1352408302 485611 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's just escaped all to hell because of the \'s < 1352408319 118488 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't tell what's going on with the \\m's < 1352408336 464539 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1352408338 889471 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1352408343 597060 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it's checking spacing < 1352408346 879300 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that there's two of them < 1352408384 760676 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, the tilded A followed by a comma < 1352408412 984956 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's erroneous < 1352408414 42597 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1352408417 722149 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have been a bad paste < 1352408438 940812 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what it was supposed to be < 1352408478 389763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like encoding issues < 1352408486 831627 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's invalid utf-8 < 1352408489 539947 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :comma doesn't begin with 10 < 1352408499 304639 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :CP 1252 \o/ < 1352408505 489778 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :this script ran under mirc 6.35 < 1352408512 447070 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :7.0 has more proper unicode support < 1352408521 71682 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :before, i had to insert the individual ascii characters < 1352408521 381571 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1352408541 905533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the individual octets, you mean < 1352408543 172522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :asci iis 7-bit < 1352408549 18701 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, fair enough < 1352408569 357836 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, only someone in here would make that distinction i bet haha < 1352408604 798002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I nitpick every time someone says "high ASCII characters", and I'm not someone in here. Er... < 1352408619 397475 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could nitpick that asci is nothing < 1352408622 95266 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ascii is 7-bit :) < 1352408629 85191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically it's ASCII not ascii < 1352408630 290615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there < 1352408634 984709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish people would stop being so pedantic about character encodings, if they would just learn to speak english then it's all very easy < 1352408635 36992 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1352408637 349596 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy what did i do < 1352408696 28183 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That joke is getting a bit clichéd. < 1352408712 56888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1352408722 622850 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :regex is actually pretty simple < 1352408735 644007 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't know it as well as i do now then < 1352408743 494189 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is checking spacing < 1352408750 929176 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, two \m/ \m/ sets can't be next to each other < 1352408751 51996 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              `\o/´69 < 1352408751 100022 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1352408751 100225 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               /'\ < 1352408751 373745 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             (_| |_) < 1352408753 998365 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs two spaces < 1352408777 603393 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's the arm variants, head variants, or the (o_º) face variants < 1352408779 68991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: dont < 1352408782 297556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean cliched < 1352408783 312237 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i made require a silly arm thing < 1352408784 274477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i pressed enter < 1352408788 576636 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII is redundant < 1352408794 181949 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 > * < 1352408803 261797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-8 ueber alles < 1352408818 677000 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: ASCI could be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Strategic_Computing_Initiative < 1352408859 216838 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you guys never saw ¯\(._º)/¯ < 1352408864 832234 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know if i got it right < 1352408867 134397 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was for another channel < 1352408891 554234 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and appears to be part of the source of the problem :) i'm not sure what the optional thing after the mouth was < 1352408940 540683 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ‿ರೃ < 1352408995 684260 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :1110000010110010101000001110001010000010101100101111111110000010110010101100001110000010110011110010010 < 1352409022 202656 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it got cut off < 1352409031 637998 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did < 1352409047 617182 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(._º)/¯ ¯\(._º)/¯ ¯\(._º)/¯ < 1352409047 963030 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the binary representation isn't divisible by 8 < 1352409050 287485 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else i miscounted < 1352409062 645251 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "1110000010110010101000001110001010000010101100101111111110000010110010101100001110000010110011110010010" < 1352409064 622906 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 103 < 1352409078 338280 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :nother broken script i assume < 1352409082 9184 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't rely on anything :( < 1352409087 588520 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a thing to decode utf-8? < 1352409094 222828 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, double-encoded utf-8 haha < 1352409109 89907 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you want as binary? ¯\(._º)/¯ ? < 1352409126 296101 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ‿ರೃ < 1352409131 126240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1352409133 351480 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to deconstruct the utf-8 manually < 1352409133 963765 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1352409135 390026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no it's still broken < 1352409135 996174 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably; most utf-8-supporting languages have a function for that kind of thing < 1352409145 843429 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant on a bot < 1352409151 409197 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll work it out somehow :) < 1352409156 587029 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's c3a0c2b2c2a0c3a2e282acc2bfc3a0c2b2c2b0c3a0c2b3c692 in hex < 1352409160 682126 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently my conversion tools are borked < 1352409177 234713 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you know what < 1352409179 50119 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the reddit face < 1352409198 245086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord blärp < 1352409198 749169 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 108 195 164 114 112 < 1352409206 340248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That gives raw bytes as decimal. < 1352409208 958472 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ < 1352409217 898465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there should be a hex version, though. < 1352409218 51713 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, almost fixed maybe! < 1352409226 386631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ord < 1352409226 879416 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>,[[-<+2>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[-<+>[<[-]+>->+<[<-]]]]]]]]]]>]<2[>+6[<+8>-]<-.[-]<]+32.[-]>>,] < 1352409229 987666 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have lots of cool random scripts for that shit hehe < 1352409238 372385 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :only here < 1352409238 867246 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1352409250 174099 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :11000011101000001100001010110010110000101010000011000011101000101110001010000010101011001100001010111111110000111010000011000010101100101100001010110000110000111010000011000010101100111100011010010010 < 1352409255 413506 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably some 0s missing at the beginning < 1352409279 950364 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "11000011101000001100001010110010110000101010000011000011101000101110001010000010101011001100001010111111110000111010000011000010101100101100001010110000110000111010000011000010101100111100011010010010" < 1352409281 453596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 200 < 1352409288 278264 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, no zeros missing < 1352409300 383644 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 200 / 8 < 1352409301 103887 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, utf-8 always has high bit set < 1352409301 966177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25.0 < 1352409311 913841 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i got it, it's the reddit face like i said :) < 1352409318 597948 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i searched google and found some broken pages that gave me context < 1352409319 59697 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1352409322 618164 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1352409324 741056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 doesn't have the high bit set for codepoints less than 128. < 1352409332 434093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :PICK A NIT. < 1352409343 180697 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to ignore that as being ignorant of context < 1352409343 812979 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1352409361 133129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a" is just as UTF-8 as "ä". < 1352409376 836303 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun that there's a place where people can actually talk about utf-8 encodings and stuff < 1352409382 778679 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, most people would be like ut-what? < 1352409399 809668 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but here not only do people know the details almost as a matter of course, they know them well enough to make pedantic corrections :P < 1352409411 179303 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there are plenty of places that would berate you for not using utf-ebcdic instead, too < 1352409414 136237 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just write a new script < 1352409419 299770 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1352409420 962775 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know < 1352409424 110008 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can get away with a new regex < 1352409614 850189 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf pcre < 1352409618 553346 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :did character classes just stop working? < 1352409662 53816 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :/([\]o[/])/ < 1352409663 830718 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :succeeds < 1352409674 31995 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but add anything else in and it fails >:( < 1352409687 300657 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :durr < 1352409701 254923 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried removing the escapes to test but i seem to have needed one ;) < 1352409717 840699 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i overescaped the rest < 1352409801 176378 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prefers UCS-1 :P
< 1352409820 753836 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: sed -e 's/\(.\{8\}\)/\1 /g' < 1352409826 827439 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will split stuff into eights for you < 1352409839 880339 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm well past that point now :P < 1352409845 419309 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1352409846 402601 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to find my rng script < 1352409849 564262 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1352409854 832494 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i implemented like 8 rngs in mirc :\ < 1352410011 195405 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :z:\f\c\mirc\download, of course! < 1352410029 551215 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the unified one but it has the one i want < 1352410044 257503 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :triumph! \o/ \o/ \o/ < 1352410044 564429 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          |   |   | < 1352410044 611411 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         /'\  |\  |\ < 1352410055 767840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1352410057 293637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1352410057 679189 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently somewhere along the line i gave it a vag too < 1352410057 987233 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | < 1352410058 140075 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  >\ < 1352410063 709940 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first test got me /^\ < 1352410064 325315 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1352410097 941653 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ < 1352410098 66590 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69¯|¯⌠ < 1352410098 113131 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\| < 1352410133 482909 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even ¯\(._º)/¯ < 1352410133 609884 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1352410133 755507 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             >\ < 1352410134 974261 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1352410345 293002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about that one thing, what was it, \m/ \m/ or such? < 1352410345 625329 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                        `\o/´69 < 1352410345 755141 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                          | < 1352410345 802824 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                      (_|¯´\ < 1352410345 802984 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                           |_) < 1352410348 519154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1352410371 903124 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally :D < 1352410417 858455 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1352410418 18452 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ < 1352410418 778038 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  |   |   |    `\o/´69   |   |   |    `\o/´69   |   |   | < 1352410418 930829 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /´\/|   |\     |     /|  /|  /<      |     /´\ |\  >\ < 1352410418 980821 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                /´\                  /'¯|_) < 1352410418 980989 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              (_| |_)               (_| < 1352410427 859845 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::party hat: < 1352410475 827045 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi, the seventh guy along looks like he's been bisected at the shoulders < 1352410483 881740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are those last bodies all desynched. < 1352410487 762183 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, looks like things are out of alignment < 1352410496 219628 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirc's fault i'm sure < 1352410502 191079 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a non breaking space got converted to a space < 1352410505 824127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Khaled's fault. < 1352410519 120505 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces are.. not fun in mirc < 1352410606 67171 :impomatic!~digital_w@94.66.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for these books if anyone has a copy to sell - Solosky "FORTH: Elements of Programming Style", Wesseling "Forth: Implementation and Application", Ting "Inside F83", Koopman "Forth Floating Point", Pelc "Book of FORTH assemblers" < 1352410634 235448 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic, I've got A Book on C, with annotations by my dad < 1352410646 907080 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any help? < 1352410659 766027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Do the annotations say "Bogus!" and such things? < 1352410664 80028 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they're clearly looking for books on FORTH specifically < 1352410673 99484 :impomatic!~digital_w@94.66.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: I think I've got that one already... < 1352410699 757771 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The annotations have mysteriously disappeared! < 1352410720 451027 :impomatic!~digital_w@94.66.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: is your dad Kernighan? If so I'll give you a couple of quid for the book. < 1352410731 969619 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad is not Kernighan < 1352410734 468208 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas < 1352410738 885462 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For then I would not be me < 1352410744 637467 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead, I would be.. < 1352410751 120845 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 ngek < 1352410753 187003 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :atrx < 1352410769 391427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 asterix < 1352410769 879306 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nfgrevk < 1352410773 576080 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1352410773 999911 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| |o| |o/ \m/ \m/ |o/ \o/ \o| \m/ \m/ \o| |o| |o/ < 1352410774 320662 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   |   |   |   `\o/´69    |   |   |   `\o/´69    |   |   | < 1352410774 458698 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /<   |\  |\     |      |\ /<  /^\     |     /<  /´\/< < 1352410774 505632 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                /´\               (_|¯`¯|_) < 1352410774 505792 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              (_| |_)                    < 1352410779 146320 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :wild guess = fail < 1352410806 986640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second set of three guys have their |s under the os now, but the third manages to be still misaligny. < 1352410813 997535 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :one too far to the right and not enough around the rocker guy < 1352410819 980159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the whole thing was just moved by one. < 1352410826 845353 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1352410833 152603 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes it to another channel
< 1352410847 504887 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there's a space at the start of the line < 1352410848 590313 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder < 1352410863 726787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how it's always, like, version 5 of a programming language before they think to add map and filter < 1352410877 914866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be great if people designing new programming languages knew something about existing ones < 1352410899 394755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds hard < 1352411651 199414 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez i just typed console.log in mirc script < 1352411711 746913 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1352411713 797011 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what it is < 1352411717 999943 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : i love how it's always, like, version 5 of a programming language before they think to add map and filter <-- for haskell too? ;P < 1352411722 157991 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's utf-8 width compensation < 1352411723 950922 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1352411737 587427 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :since mirc didn't use true unicode, $len(something) could be 1-4 < 1352411741 182395 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i had to manually fix it < 1352411750 219317 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it works correctly < 1352411953 24401 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1352412000 782071 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, screw this nonsense < 1352412010 767324 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION consigns v1 to the trash
< 1352412049 546975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP < 1352412382 57836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352412666 449538 :impomatic!~digital_w@94.66.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1352413193 925964 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352413296 20148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1352413297 504406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1352413329 921080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dig -t txt root.passwd.ns.athena.mit.edu < 1352413448 17746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi < 1352413452 104966 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1352413455 961212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1352413460 715072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: root uses csh :( < 1352413606 85806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she sells c shells < 1352413760 476459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the C shore. < 1352413933 895461 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-94-91.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352414040 163520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Can you see-ee any clearer from a glass shore?" < 1352414202 742517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :root uses csh? < 1352414204 107814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, reddit now has a dedicated button below each and every comment to "give gold" < 1352414207 711968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not talking to you anymore, root. < 1352414233 96543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they are hoping for some golden showers < 1352414238 480868 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, was... that an Against A Dark Background reference? < 1352414286 475633 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. < 1352414358 978686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though when I read it, I did wonder if it was a something reference; it does not appear to be so, at least very directly. < 1352414364 526781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought nobody else had read Banks' non-Culture novels! < 1352414368 513415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're the best! < 1352414415 725127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of the "M." ones, still. < 1352414432 98311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I mean the non-Culture M. ones < 1352414459 607975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Did I mention that I got the inspiration for Mt Hoover from that book?) < 1352414508 102009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I didn't quite get through Feersum Endjinn though; I remember starting, but not finishing (or Finnishing). < 1352414523 171835 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1352414575 240518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i like how in retrospect mt hoover was rather tiny and unimpressive < 1352414601 578762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a pointlessly cruel thing to say! < 1352414609 140157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's what SHE said. < 1352414618 18705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had that awesome biome discontinuity anyway, shut up < 1352414639 433873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: okay the discontinuity was cool < 1352414673 910983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think I did in fact finish The Algebraist. < 1352414682 163110 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352414684 455027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Algebraist was also the best. < 1352414714 200118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feersum Endjinn would be the best if it wasn't for those goddamn dyslexic chapters. < 1352414763 495144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think those might've been the reason I gave it up. < 1352414831 247695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even like you can skip them, they describe some of the coolest parts of the book. < 1352415264 418282 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I got the newest humble bundle, since some of those games would be nice to have on Android. A warning though, Waking Mars does not work on Android if it is not allowed to call home with user metrics (like if it is blocked by a firewall or adblocker software modifying the hosts file). It crashes when it fails to connect. < 1352415265 139087 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69So I got the newest humble bundle, since some of those games would be nice to have on Android. A warning though, Waking Mars does not work on Android if it is not allowed to call home with user metrics (like if it is blocked by a firewall or adblocker software modifying the hosts file). It crashes when it fails to connect. | < 1352415265 305812 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415274 403196 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you copy paste that? < 1352415275 167234 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69why did you copy paste that? < 1352415275 341350 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415277 31314 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1352415277 778653 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69... < 1352415277 940120 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415281 439888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi, stop that < 1352415282 115332 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69myndzi, stop that < 1352415282 266226 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415290 47624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it broke. < 1352415290 323746 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69I think it broke. < 1352415290 515949 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415298 12552 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you mute it? < 1352415298 733916 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69can't you mute it? < 1352415298 879971 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415303 286170 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :fizzie > 1352415303 322524 NAMES :#esoteric < 1352415304 553637 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he is afk < 1352415305 240048 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69if he is afk < 1352415305 395309 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415313 914202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric +q :myndzi!*@* > 1352415313 951088 NAMES :#esoteric < 1352415315 318626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1352415316 457040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1352415318 719285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: undo < 1352415318 917059 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it +q or what? < 1352415320 541720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to try it first < 1352415326 275394 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well yeah works < 1352415329 70804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please!!!! < 1352415330 750791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's urgent < 1352415333 372820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if he fixes it < 1352415336 254303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you insist; but just once. < 1352415344 180537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric -q :myndzi!*@* > 1352415344 203021 NAMES :#esoteric < 1352415345 429013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1352415346 158218 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69hello < 1352415346 273008 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415347 324655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend < 1352415347 983168 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69friend < 1352415348 115288 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415348 677516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1352415352 759447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1352415356 444724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fixed it guys < 1352415357 85090 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69i fixed it guys < 1352415357 251014 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415359 184771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1352415359 441732 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1352415362 201011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1352415362 507954 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69Heh. < 1352415362 700014 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415362 945064 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did not < 1352415367 432368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ \m/ < 1352415368 108629 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69\m/ \m/ < 1352415368 313175 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415372 470582 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay this is weird, it is only broken sometimes? < 1352415372 736410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1352415373 282105 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69okay this is weird, it is only broken sometimes? < 1352415373 420613 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415373 467817 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69help < 1352415373 589830 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415379 136146 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1352415379 890130 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69huh < 1352415380 24593 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1352415382 463825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ < 1352415385 367259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ < 1352415387 115952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ < 1352415387 675700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qa < 1352415390 963486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bizarre < 1352415392 45581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1352415392 168497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1352415392 552599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1352415393 424023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1352415396 992560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i fix it now < 1352415409 917906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was very confusing. < 1352415418 171279 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah kick or mute or something, might be better to kick so he notices what was going on when kicked, rather than getting back in several hours time and having no idea why it is broken < 1352415427 575087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no point now < 1352415427 759785 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi, so still broken? < 1352415428 804204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it stopped < 1352415433 567176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric -o :fizzie > 1352415433 589761 NAMES :#esoteric < 1352415434 946547 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it starts again though < 1352415439 376661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to my genius efforts < 1352415442 743511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll hang around. < 1352415449 902146 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what caused that (parens?) < 1352415456 813564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I got the newest humble bundle, since some of those games would be nice to have on Android. A warning though, Waking Mars does not work on Android if it is not allowed to call home with user metrics (like if it is blocked by a firewall or adblocker software modifying the hosts file). It crashes when it fails to connect. < 1352415463 277507 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you beat me to that < 1352415463 464648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like i fixed it permanently!! < 1352415466 449665 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting personal discovery of the day: when people say 'scone' the wrong way my accent involuntarily turns scottish < 1352415495 13274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's a new Humble Bundle? < 1352415508 231416 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yeah, android one again < 1352415508 278479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thx for not telling me" < 1352415517 516619 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, sure your parents weren't experimenting with you like in that xkcd strip? < 1352415548 681929 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were exceptionally precise about it if that's the case < 1352415556 476097 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1352415605 989839 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I don't believe any bug is fixed permanently unless the code for it has been changed in some way < 1352415611 746554 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could still happen < 1352415635 947957 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1352415648 120173 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think myndzi is completely disabled now even < 1352415656 229436 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so that bug fix just broke it another way < 1352415671 119126 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ < 1352415681 779719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the script died completely < 1352415749 853417 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just came out. Holy *crap* that was scary.
< 1352415756 585328 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, came out? < 1352415764 970297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the closest? Or outdoors? or what? < 1352415769 998683 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :closet* < 1352415773 259300 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the closet(s) < 1352415790 335617 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1352415813 353245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :concept: rentable closets you can pay to come out of < 1352415845 721385 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, I don't understand why anyone who is not a sexual partner (or interested in becoming one) with the person in question would even care about the sexual orientation of other humans. < 1352415860 392885 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: In a sane world, this would be the case. < 1352415875 871562 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do not live in a sane world. < 1352415880 160337 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, i presume you also don't care about someone's job or name or personal background < 1352415881 849226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would go one further and say that in a sane world, 'sexual orientation' would not be a concept < 1352415888 38977 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and simply refer to them by serial number < 1352415899 707361 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What would be? < 1352415904 436760 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We live in a world where empiricism is an unpopular viewpoint. < 1352415916 458072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to the myriad other factors in attractiveness < 1352415927 680937 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there is a *slight* difference between sexual orientation and name. < 1352415944 427718 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, yes... < 1352415974 658257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you're more attracted to short people or tall people, then whatever, but if you're more attracted to men or women, this is supposed to be a defining aspect of your identity < 1352415980 396107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : pikhq_, I don't understand why anyone who is not a sexual partner (or interested in becoming one) with the person in question would even care about the sexual orientation of other humans. < 1352415991 183045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as someone who is attracted to both short and tall men and women, i don't really get this < 1352415993 204925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this conversation is dumb can we have a different one < 1352415993 978454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a world where it is implicitly assumed you are heterosexual unless stated otherwise of course it's relevant < 1352416000 614739 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I probably don't care about their job or personal background unless it is somehow relevant to me though. < 1352416021 321198 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Likewise. < 1352416023 78648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that, if people are persecuting you for who you are attracted to, they will force a label on you, and you can use that label to fight back as well < 1352416029 919714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it makes sense in that context < 1352416040 374954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like the people who say affirmative action is "reverse racism" because in a perfect world there would be no need to even consider such things < 1352416063 859341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what elliott said < 1352416068 638672 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Men are attractive. Women are also attractive. Easy. < 1352416087 775004 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think many men don't find men attractive < 1352416094 996933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i see someone on the street and decide that they're attractive before i decide whether they look like a dude or a lady < 1352416101 268372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this works better from behind) < 1352416105 807815 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, well, I'm not one of those men. < 1352416120 71510 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"< kmc> (this works better from behind) < 1352416125 777264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that's what she said" < 1352416126 776200 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352416135 65467 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ba-dum < 1352416261 832592 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, my point here was that there is no reason why 1) there would be anything special about any sexual orientation that would require coming out of the closest 2) sexual orientation is unimportant to other people unless they are your sexual partners or are interested in such a relationship. It is not a defining characteristic of any person. < 1352416283 454519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : except that, if people are persecuting you for who you are attracted to, they will force a label on you, and you can use that label to fight back as well < 1352416289 841816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why it's such a big deal < 1352416313 605431 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as everyone involved are consenting adults why would anyone outside care about it. < 1352416316 427816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes Vorpal you're ever so forward-thinking now please let the rest of us talk like adults < 1352416338 366416 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, in a fairy-tale land that's roughly how it'd work. < 1352416338 985468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dongs < 1352416346 555043 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with kmc. < 1352416348 709286 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coques < 1352416352 402061 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, yeah that is not how it works, but that is how it *ought* to work < 1352416359 521574 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I second kmc. < 1352416360 147304 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dongs < 1352416362 754877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cock au vin < 1352416367 135178 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :baulle < 1352416370 559483 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, and that is an interesting point about fighting back < 1352416371 581962 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*baulles < 1352416378 431355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dickachu < 1352416386 211030 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikachin < 1352416398 613040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: this is the kind of conversation that might be worth having in 1000 years when gender, prejudices about it, prejudices about sexual orientation, blah blah blah are not deeply ingrained in society < 1352416409 710866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of now they are so this stuff is relevant < 1352416419 859571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if elliott thinks my view is as wrong as Vorpal's < 1352416422 713366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't seem very different < 1352416436 533506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is worth talking about now, while recognizing that it doesn't match the society we live in < 1352416442 309351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does rather match the subculture of people i know personally < 1352416480 809608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's worth talking about in a more nuanced way than Vorpal's "OH MY GOD SOCIETY ISN'T PERFECT WHAT IS WITH THAT" < 1352416489 631841 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I guess the issue then is why I do not feel those prejudices. I don't understand racism. I heard it explained with the fear of the unknown and what not, yet I don't see what there is to fear in a different skin colour. < 1352416493 538588 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1352416526 416708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe you are interpreting what I said differently to how I intended it < 1352416550 109121 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352416554 276793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm certainly not saying discussions about this topic in general are a bad thing to have; i just mean that saying "well why does it even have to be a thing" is counterproductive < 1352416587 265510 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, again, you simply see this entire topic as a vehicle to front your own progressiveness < 1352416600 982411 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352416603 224501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to be frank I find it vastly more likely you do have at least some of those prejudices but they are just ingrained enough that you do not notice them... which is not a statement about you; that applies to everyone on the planet < 1352416614 212746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since a whole lot of everything is ingrained stuff you don't notice < 1352416627 249827 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm not sure I'm progressive, I just try to be sensible. I do not understand homophobia, racism and so on. I guess I just do not at all experience the feeling which give rise to these kind of views? < 1352416631 686292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you aren't actively racist it is a lot easier to act like racism is no big deal if you have racial privilege < 1352416635 128257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and hence: this is why sexual orientation being a thing that is actually brought up is important -- because it counteracts this) < 1352416638 90779 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that might be the case < 1352416651 946768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I don't think I actually agree with kmc < 1352416656 209591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1352416657 82416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disagree < 1352416660 954056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I don't think I actually disagree with kmc < 1352416664 399952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's disagree to agree < 1352416674 264386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I think Vorpal is "wrong" per se either < 1352416682 728517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway let's talk about something else < 1352416689 873540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is meant to be dumb < 1352416690 131612 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-fe6bf800-88.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1352416700 895599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you oonbotti, that was sufficientyl dumb < 1352416703 135939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sufeicjeintly < 1352416795 74290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any sufficiently dumb comment is indistinguishable from idiot < 1352416813 974661 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where'd my +v go anyway. < 1352416815 245544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*idiocy < 1352416822 87610 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should've been given a +v access mode instead of just a one-time +v. < 1352416828 159077 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well, I work daily with people from all over the world (I have colleagues from Canada, Chile and Australia) and have no issues with that. I have friends who are from countries that racism in Sweden has traditionally been targeted at (Bosnia for example). < 1352416852 952293 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352416900 184066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I have to ask < 1352416910 288369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are these Canadians and Australians white < 1352416911 625689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1352416927 404738 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys, have a stupid character set: http://wiki.zbasu.net/idios < 1352416953 259113 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«0x20: "escape"; has no defined meaning» nice. < 1352416958 828157 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the Canadian guy is, the Australian one is not, though not a native either. Think he have parents from somewhere in India or something, don't remember the detail. < 1352416959 1266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chileans wouldn't be < 1352416990 978532 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Why, it can't even represent Japanese! < 1352417002 155269 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1352417003 761996 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I thought of putting in katakana just for kicks. < 1352417005 452057 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I insist you add the glyphs necessary to represent pikhq romanized Japanese. < 1352417005 498686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway I am not accusing you of being a gigantic racist or anything :P < 1352417014 602779 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which glyphs would those be? < 1352417021 311003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kmc is right -- prejudice is a lot harder to see if it doesn't affect you < 1352417025 444203 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the Chilean guy, I'm not sure, not a native indian but not traditionally white either. < 1352417034 286122 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, true < 1352417042 276046 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.53.241 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1352417050 64233 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I just grew up learning that these sort of things were non-issues. < 1352417058 390416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in sweden < 1352417062 396483 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are: à ì ù è ò â î û ê ô ȳ ā ī ū ē ō (more glyphs may be necessary for other Japonic languages, but as far as I know that's what's necessary for any form of Japanese proper) < 1352417073 564952 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there are significant racial tensions < 1352417076 174440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Sweden is probably better than average at this stuff < 1352417080 656306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also what Phantom_Hoover said < 1352417095 625638 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are grave accents, circumflexes, and ȳ for? < 1352417112 242286 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hepburn romanization, obviously < 1352417112 288882 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, hm? There is certainly racism in Sweden. There is a racist party in the parliament even currently. BNP style, but maybe not quite as bad. < 1352417123 441312 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grave is the dakuten, circumflex is the handakuten, the bar is for small glyphs. < 1352417129 288575 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have it support lots of languages, but only with outmoded romanization styles < 1352417130 98883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, so how could you pretend it's a non-issue? < 1352417135 921049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It very clearly is. < 1352417138 986268 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, so I guess you could blame/thank my parents rather than the social climate at large. < 1352417157 767894 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't say it isn't an issue. I just said I don't understand *why* it is considered an issue by some. < 1352417166 152477 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is for an *encoding of kana*, not really a good romanization scheme. :) < 1352417173 610882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Sweden has no official ethnicity statistics < 1352417183 625627 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are "ba" and "pa" written as "hà" and "hâ"? < 1352417193 717068 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1352417193 869503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: only seal script, then < 1352417195 940688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we're all swedes here" < 1352417201 925012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"swedes living in perfect harmony" < 1352417214 256157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i bet all you inferior countries wish you could be like your nordic supermen" < 1352417215 524341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait! < 1352417215 716950 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: One other thing: the sokuon (っ) is written ' < 1352417217 569758 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how would they collect that info anyway? < 1352417219 554004 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1352417221 76282 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just remembered i hate sweden! < 1352417224 312456 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disabled it to write a better one < 1352417231 339561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well you all get a barcode at birth in sweden right < 1352417231 974178 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ah, so I'll have to add ' to the character set, too. < 1352417232 900225 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: So, Hepburn "roppyaku" is pikhq "ro'hîȳaku" < 1352417233 229452 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i think my server just cut out < 1352417242 372249 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : "i bet all you inferior countries wish you could be like your nordic supermen" <-- that sounds like it would be racism towards the rest of the world :P < 1352417244 613972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it concerns me that you are unfamiliar with censuses < 1352417260 355254 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, we have social security numbers, no bar code though < 1352417264 333062 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One also encodes long vowels as you would in kana. < 1352417268 492903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's because swedes are too dumb to work out that they're inferior < 1352417272 984657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you could encode the SSN as a bar code if you wanted though < 1352417275 377891 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, "Tōkyō" is "Toukiȳou" < 1352417277 755906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: are you sure you just haven't found your barcode yet??? < 1352417292 701257 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "Ōkii" is "Ookii" < 1352417295 216797 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :P < 1352417302 319184 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Why'd I capitalize that? < 1352417305 290700 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anywho < 1352417322 293158 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, we don't do censuses in Sweden since a great deal of years. We simply trust the registry being kept up to date as people are born and die. < 1352417331 720210 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ōkii no "o" < 1352417339 661296 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweden :') < 1352417349 798782 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: There are, FWIW, some advantages to this scheme. < 1352417358 984851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you miss out on the experience of censuses with big yelling warnings saying how mandatory they are < 1352417360 757053 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i mean it's not like anyone could get into the country without us knowing" < 1352417361 440607 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, so it was in the context of that which my comment should be taken < 1352417365 913903 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: "ヴ" cannot be represented in Hepburn, but it's just "ù" in pikhq < 1352417369 782629 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, :P < 1352417375 49746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we're not that dumb!" < 1352417381 291700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well who would flee to sweden < 1352417384 848056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of all places < 1352417387 751857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying < 1352417394 540180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when norway and finland are so close? < 1352417397 664393 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so very not sweden < 1352417405 572957 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1352417406 367317 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, even people who are here illegally have right to get emergency health care and so on btw < 1352417414 539941 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I don't know how to attach "ōkii" to a noun. < 1352417435 51495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember there was an occasion where Linus was giving a lecture, and a person from the audience started a long "question"/rant about the mark-of-the-beast microchips that are being implanted into people these days. < 1352417443 623554 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an -i adjective, so one just does it before the noun. < 1352417452 860257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it wasn't stallman by any chance, was it < 1352417453 935140 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. "big island" is "ōkii shima" < 1352417457 849416 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, speaking of which, US politics make me scratch my head quite often. < 1352417467 519226 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it just appears so backwards < 1352417469 140716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :US politics make the US scratch their heads also < 1352417472 815016 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods.
< 1352417475 460008 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though for some reason I want to prefer "ōkina shima" < 1352417477 941448 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well yeah < 1352417498 602877 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that adjective is a weird case in that there's a -na version of it that is mostly interchangeable) < 1352417505 384209 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: do you know a significant amount of Japanese? < 1352417506 322922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys can we somehow tie in this discussion with the pikhq_-tswett one < 1352417508 726061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No; this was in Finland, in Finnish, and the person was female. The video's in YouTube, but, again, Finnish. < 1352417511 358055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can stop having to skip every other line < 1352417515 63009 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Rather a lot. < 1352417519 930788 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, stallman's finnish daughter? < 1352417522 232649 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods.
< 1352417523 770593 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: japan has race problems, how about that < 1352417530 154184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: perfect. job done. < 1352417537 154944 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake NICK :KALLISTI < 1352417538 573782 :KALLISTI!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1352417540 569804 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Japan actually does have a number of racial problems. < 1352417542 66156 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, the racism inherent in hepburn's romanizing stuffs < 1352417554 564812 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps romanization in general! < 1352417567 687126 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go ask the Ainu how they're doing OH WAIT THEY'RE BASICALLY GONE. < 1352417587 206559 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, time to write a line editor in MIPS assembly. < 1352417587 553235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, aren't "japanese only" signs fairly common in some places < 1352417601 195306 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. < 1352417614 103895 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, btw speaking of census, wouldn't it be rather easy to hide away from that anyway? < 1352417635 288272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, but that would be breaking the law! < 1352417642 124134 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352417647 687998 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, :P < 1352417666 807922 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't like people who are in the country illegally aren't breaking the law already < 1352417678 917491 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certain obnoxious white Japanese people (ARUDŌ Debito) have made a big deal of it in Japanese courts... < 1352417683 884618 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do UK do censuses? < 1352417729 374600 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, who are "Ainu"? < 1352417737 129328 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, aboriginal japanese < 1352417741 373764 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, there you go. < 1352417742 422355 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1352417755 972686 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the other indigenous groups? are they annihilated yet < 1352417795 176694 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, you mean in general? < 1352417804 68543 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in japan < 1352417807 286702 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The Ainu are an aboriginal people from northern Japan and very far eastern Russia... < 1352417815 624112 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1352417818 914587 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, to go back to the language thing, ryukyuan language suppression? < 1352417826 213714 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The Soviets booted them all out to Japan, and then WWII Japan was dicks. < 1352417839 160657 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now there's about 100 Ainu speakers. < 1352417851 823823 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez, I didn't think it was that bad :( < 1352417855 539183 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1352417867 107304 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Ryūkyūan languages got fucked with badly, too. But nowhere near as bad. < 1352417889 59520 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike, i hear you're new < 1352417893 809693 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you done the right of passage < 1352417895 344318 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Certain obnoxious white Japanese people (ARUDŌ Debito) have made a big deal of it in Japanese courts... <-- white Japanse people? What are we talking about here exactly? < 1352417904 712665 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: White person who is a citizen of Japan. < 1352417913 177648 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They exist. < 1352417913 788465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the right of passage is a natural right of all citizens! < 1352417920 693903 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, like Europeans that moved there? < 1352417922 263179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1352417928 461280 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Basically. < 1352417932 124296 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, what do you mean, like, do I have to write a brainfuck variant < 1352417936 629808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the condition for citizenship is writing an eodermdrome interpreter < 1352417938 196810 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, right okay. < 1352417940 350617 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1352417948 145444 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making a brainfuck derivative automatically disqualifies you < 1352417952 568549 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. < 1352417967 480799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: white people living in japan can also have children and stuff < 1352417972 986594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so I hear...................... < 1352417983 516629 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have this great idea, it's like brainfuck plus befunge and intercal! < 1352417997 160627 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well sure. I was wondering if he was referring to yet another group of people that were native to the area and white or something < 1352417997 546193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: amazing, you should put it on the wiki pronto < 1352418002 181541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure to make the spec horribly ambiguous < 1352418009 795657 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Japan is jus sanguinis, though. < 1352418017 702382 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spec? I think you mean download link < 1352418017 749605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, wait, are you implying they're obnoxious for fighting racial prejudice or am i misreading < 1352418026 982231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Certain obnoxious white Japanese people (ARUDŌ Debito) have made a big deal of it in Japanese courts.. < 1352418030 16273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: right < 1352418046 517139 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so my question obviously was asking if he meant western (and descendants of western) persons or something else. < 1352418049 740523 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, just that Debito in particular tries to be the squeaky wheel that gets the grease. :) < 1352418059 277477 :KALLISTI!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE BEEN CONVERTED INTO SQL OR POSSIBLY BASIC OR POSSIBLY COBOL OR POSSIBLY ASSEMBLY < 1352418071 619592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FORTRAN. < 1352418074 115822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me though, the other month a guy I know said that in school he learned that ainu were white < 1352418075 361138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, you have just said something that makes roughly no sense < 1352418076 614455 :KALLISTI!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1352418080 16888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I barely know anything about it but isn't the anti-foreigner prejudice in Japan not really anti-white racism at all? < 1352418084 198611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a generalised xenophobia or whatever < 1352418092 558329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently he learned about race from 19th-century quality textbooks, three races and all < 1352418092 905436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just the impression I've got though, I don't actually know anything :P < 1352418098 45102 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's generalized xenophobia. < 1352418104 417649 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: White people have it easier, in a way. < 1352418123 962796 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, we're happy enough to call hatred of muslims racism, i think the term is generalised enough to support that usage < 1352418160 797164 :KALLISTI!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this conversation reminds me of a "wonderful" debate I was in recently with a denizen of IRC < 1352418175 920041 :KALLISTI!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :claiming that basically every other language should romanize their alphabets < 1352418178 18790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well islamophobia is at least usually linked to actual racism but fair enough < 1352418184 25686 :augur!~augur@c-69-140-133-153.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352418188 248009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :KALLISTI: that way we wouldn't have to implement unicode!! < 1352418197 417686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it is linked to the awful attitudes towards human rights in certain muslim communities < 1352418203 927063 :KALLISTI!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah the conversation actually came up because I claimed that UTF-8 for URLs would make way more sense < 1352418212 39891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :KALLISTI: see IRI < 1352418282 137743 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IDN stuff makes no bloody sense. Until you realise that everything these days is basically built to be backward compatible with imperfect solutions made 30-20 years ago < 1352418305 441226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is how everything has worked forever < 1352418309 183559 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1352418324 273890 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it results in so many problems though < 1352418372 427581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of < 1352418374 382381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate unix < 1352418385 668416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because i run "foo" and it dies cleanly when i hit ^C < 1352418390 787493 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, it has some good ideas but a LOT of flaws < 1352418391 788953 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read the handbook < 1352418392 71167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does not mean that killall -INT foo will make it die cleanly < 1352418414 511212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a bunch of processes that launch other processes and it works fine when you run it manually, but the cleanup is a disaster otherwise < 1352418421 231481 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, which signal does ^C send then? I thought it was INT? < 1352418429 729973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sends it to the whole process group though < 1352418441 87935 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you would have to do that then? < 1352418457 260233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but setting it up yourself is a pain < 1352418466 383044 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1352418474 619739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :killall -g ? < 1352418475 89770 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which piece of software is this? So I can avoid it < 1352418475 387371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's easy to say "kill everything running in this terminal" but hard to say "kill everything launched from this exec call" < 1352418483 350947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux < 1352418493 258350 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I meant which software on linux < 1352418499 523317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some software i wrote < 1352418502 553128 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1352418504 285301 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so, if the state graph is abc and the match subgraph of a command is b, the interpreter could run that command, in which case the one node would be "open"? < 1352418507 659209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1352418508 381298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should use @ instead < 1352418511 591419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you understood the above < 1352418518 122786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would understand that it is not my fault particularly < 1352418535 88802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I'll have to check. < 1352418537 288147 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, true, I would just use a supervisor process, like systemd or daemontools or such < 1352418553 665109 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-39-132.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Doesn't even really solve The Problem. < 1352418553 823295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm not asking for advice < 1352418564 948747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i have not described my problem in detail anyway < 1352418565 764316 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352418571 521555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just complaining < 1352418576 368545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my advice is < 1352418577 863931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, you need to know both match and substitution subgraphs to determine if a node is open. < 1352418578 65334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use @ < 1352418579 789292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying < 1352418588 76586 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, hm true < 1352418594 997044 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh, yes, duh. silly me. < 1352418606 55452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any complaint gets responses of "that's easy, you should just use foo and bar" < 1352418611 34201 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I thought it said that it used the same letter in the state graph and the match subgraph, oops. < 1352418611 770130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is annoying < 1352418618 771999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm in an annoyed mood generally < 1352418620 548808 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... there is "Angry Birds Star Wars" now? < 1352418622 210627 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1352418653 287318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, nah, the tricky part is that the state graph is completely unlabelled. < 1352418654 96033 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's easy, you should just use screen. < 1352418658 275545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was Angry Birds Space; it sounds a sensible step. < 1352418670 492069 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello guys < 1352418678 827037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have to use a general subgraph matcher to work out what can actually be executed. < 1352418682 914837 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, riight.... < 1352418690 233828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: is this because of disney < 1352418694 864393 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to download it just to see how bad it is... < 1352418702 445070 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm morbidly curious < 1352418704 227829 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: right. but clearly having a single interpreter step be an np complete problem is what makes it worthwhile < 1352418712 213321 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be any worse than the usual Angry Birds I guess < 1352418714 3178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait let me guess < 1352418719 377658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that it is identical to an angry birds game < 1352418723 954343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but looks vaguely star-warsy < 1352418728 550889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm not asking for advice, but thank you for inferring my problem based on the assumption that i am an idiot and then solving it for me" < 1352418729 839009 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you do realize if you do that they win their gamble < 1352418743 840251 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, actually when i looked this up i discovered that for fixed match subgraphs the algorithm is O(n^2) or something else pleasantly small < 1352418747 468844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well you are an idiot < 1352418752 71294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because you are not using @ < 1352418754 257099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok but < 1352418770 51021 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual algorithm was paywalled tho-- < 1352418770 601644 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, apart from that I do not buy any micro transactions and I have an adblocker < 1352418777 637102 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen, so they make zero money from me < 1352418777 982139 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do I get the time machine to get @ < 1352418801 250670 :augur!~augur@c-69-140-133-153.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1352418806 21070 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ullmann (1976) describes a recursive backtracking procedure for solving the subgraph isomorphism problem. Although its running time is, in general, exponential, it takes polynomial time for any fixed choice of H (with a polynomial that depends on the choice of H)." < 1352418818 667305 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems convenient enough < 1352418838 607842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: has anyone told you about the eodeoredoemroemdomeormodrmodrme curse yet < 1352418855 398324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an amazing number of Angry Birds merchandize around. Today at the grocery store there were Angry Birds skin care products from Lumene. < 1352418857 128066 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1352418861 320032 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I going to go insane or something < 1352418866 889127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the Angry Birds coffees. < 1352418873 331277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there an angry birds theme park? < 1352418874 858388 :augur!~augur@c-69-140-133-153.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1352418876 240316 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do they make your skin yellow, blue and red < 1352418880 617533 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just that all other attempts to implement it have failed < 1352418893 633251 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you mean like the place or the drink? < 1352418894 717048 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except one by oklopol which is a) lost in the mists of time and b) hideously slow < 1352418895 490857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well so far only one person claims to have successfully implemented it and their interpreter has been lost and was never publicly released < 1352418898 123805 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, really? < 1352418898 930424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also they were already cursed < 1352418902 240244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I didn't stop to read the product descriptions. < 1352418908 370907 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well shit, how can I turn this down now < 1352418916 211154 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect that this is mainly because of the subgraph isomorphism < 1352418939 112335 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> concat $ repeat "aeiou" < 1352418939 809009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: The drink; there's two Angry Birds -themed brands of it. I forget the exact names. < 1352418940 609625 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeiouaeio... < 1352418945 327864 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how exactly this would ever be not hideously slow < 1352418949 500631 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weeeeeell < 1352418951 780337 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, my university apparently don't have general access to the acm < 1352418956 659496 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be worse than british coffee, can it? < 1352418962 291527 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can < 1352418965 91498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, http://jgaa.info/accepted/99/Eppstein99.3.3.pdf is the cited paper for the polynomial thing < 1352418971 23415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1352418973 13550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them was the Early Bird coffee. < 1352418984 133555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to grab the ullman paper from my amazing piracy network < 1352418985 54993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the other was some kind of explosive espresso. < 1352418986 469648 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a good name for a coffee < 1352419001 440787 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an esprossive? < 1352419007 267454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oklopol's just did the naive thing iirc < 1352419018 21580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the one involving 0 research papers < 1352419020 664420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it doesn't actually give ullman's algorithm and, as i mentioned, his paper is paywalled < 1352419030 205400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't i once find the paper < 1352419032 528112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear i did < 1352419053 909954 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr finding a different paper stating the algorithm < 1352419074 640852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rovio has publicly stated that "going forward" they will only ever consider game ideas that can be readily turned to merchandizing. < 1352419075 872581 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oldwww.prip.tuwien.ac.at/teaching/ss/strupr/vogl.pdf < 1352419083 576370 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helpful powerpoint! < 1352419092 80387 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this is the same designer who did underload, and I already implemented that, so obviously this will be just as simple < 1352419104 837576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1352419118 764924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr we once tried interpreting underload in eodermdrome < 1352419123 429487 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha amazing < 1352419139 938808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we failed almost immediately < 1352419144 230374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the same designer also did http://esolangs.org/wiki/Feather < 1352419156 93840 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplication in eodermdrome is hard < 1352419170 469275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnair had an Angry Birds theme flight to Japan, though they didn't (afaik) shoot the plane out of a giant slingshot. < 1352419178 324034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-65.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well that doesn't seem hard either, by virtue of my knowing nothing about it, see? < 1352419185 379409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor did it break into three smaller planes mid-flight. < 1352419188 594085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it involves time travel < 1352419191 553217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tell Bike about Feather!