< 1353456127 621489 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1353456136 503352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: It's the nihilist! < 1353456252 558512 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1353456459 878508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: lenovo cancelled my X1 carbon order due to general failure < 1353456516 207168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll get the i7 / 8GB model after all < 1353456533 621686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could buy it now from the UK site and have it shipped to a friend in the UK, who might appear stateside early next year < 1353457177 157121 :louishenri13!~louishenr@pool-100-2-163-148.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353457548 778705 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what is your list? < 1353457673 628791 :NihilistDandy!~ND@24.128.161.213 QUIT :Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] < 1353458001 751158 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1353458721 528968 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1353460308 589572 :intok!~junko@h69-131-103-215.nwblwi.broadband.dynamic.tds.net PART #esoteric :"PONG :asimov.freenode.net" < 1353460445 680109 :louishenri13!~louishenr@pool-100-2-163-148.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~ < 1353460451 581269 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "general failure" < 1353460454 978783 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: do you know what a homestuck is < 1353461124 135423 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghh < 1353461140 840634 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they create that new almighty invincible supervillain < 1353461147 871217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Does general failure work with colonel panic? < 1353461159 832764 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and manage to shoot him dead in the same episode < 1353461225 104170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quality writing < 1353461481 480801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is still the good series of stargate you're watching right < 1353461495 654569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you < 1353461497 704320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1353461503 835088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wait hes gone!!?" < 1353461515 487046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im elliott < 1353461523 321282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott non is broken? < 1353461523 579596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1353461530 13817 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its not < 1353461533 215676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your stupid < 1353461539 9424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you < 1353461546 872717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Do you mean that it's not a proper isomorphism? < 1353461547 130072 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1353461555 237195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh no < 1353461565 558924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's not a proper isomorphism you moron < 1353461569 909378 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(am i doing this right) < 1353461582 394920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't know. elliott's not usually so nice. < 1353461604 348259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you're obviously pretending. < 1353461607 530112 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, your a fucking piece of shit, die and kill your family < 1353461615 134234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have the words, but you don't have the music. < 1353461622 947685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#tralalalalala < 1353461636 946289 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1353461640 751819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote shachaf, your a fucking piece of shit, die and kill your family < 1353461645 807937 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :867) shachaf, your a fucking piece of shit, die and kill your family < 1353461658 694748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that should be < 1353462035 601135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353464197 144687 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1353464308 365640 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1353465250 939054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Luftwaffe fighters found it extremely hard to shoot down the Kukuruznik because of three main factors: the rudimentary aircraft could take an enormous amount of damage and stay in the air, the pilots used the defensive tactic of flying at treetop level, and the stall speed of both the Messerschmitt Bf 109 and the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 was similar to the Soviet aircraft's maximum cruise speed, making it difficult for the newer aircraft to < 1353465321 932312 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was too slow, nice < 1353465583 607734 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't they have shields < 1353465796 528669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the russians used extremely shitty aircraft to harass the german ground divisions at night, ensuring that they never got any sleep and were constantly on edge < 1353465815 404285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which worked so well that the germans copied the idea < 1353465863 627960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the communists used it in the korean war too < 1353465881 628488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the allied fighters were unable to get a radar lock because the plane is made mostly of fabric and wood < 1353465906 29141 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we fire the whole bullet - that's 60 percent more bullet per bullet" < 1353465957 598295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: /script load splitlong.pl < 1353466131 607089 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this week's xkcd's what-if says the amount of thrust created by a rocket/machine gun is exactly mass * speed of the thing you're firing < 1353466146 50211 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: mkdir -pv ~/.irssi/scripts && ln -s . ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun && ln -s /usr/share/irssi/scripts/splitlong.pl ~/.irssi/scripts/ < 1353466179 311127 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember in prepschool our physics teacher told us for a rocket the "loss in weight" created by burning up the fuel also added to the thrust < 1353466179 760036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :butts < 1353466231 56393 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was never able to explain that properly so I have no idea what that means (basically she was saying "if you're holding a heavy bag and you drop it, you'll start to fly") < 1353466242 614167 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently Randall did not mention that < 1353466266 699894 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's because if you lose mass, it's easier to accelerate? < 1353466276 586389 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so as you spend your fuel, the same amount of thrust pushes you farther < 1353466287 462413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: help < 1353466297 19636 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1353466298 738624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're trying to solve a practical problem with lenses < 1353466309 709516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now edwardk is going on about Kan extensions and things. < 1353466327 297722 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but in that case, you don't actually *get* any thrust by *having to* carry the fuel in order to burn it < 1353466376 196617 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, she was saying "losing mass" was actually producing something (that you wouldn't have if your mass was already low) < 1353466407 791982 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing she probably just wasn't being clear or you misinterpreted? < 1353466413 137792 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess I'll satisfy myself with your explanation, as it is far better than any explanation she could come up with < 1353466428 204425 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there's a similar thing with how spaceships do gravitational assists around planets < 1353466454 918587 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you burn the engine really at the closest point of your orbit < 1353466477 896513 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your gain in velocity comes from the fact that you basically deposited mass inside the gravitational potential well (negative energy) < 1353466485 903542 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think at least < 1353466512 287709 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberth_effect aha < 1353466635 721238 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thank you < 1353466799 967480 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and good night < 1353466805 294736 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Gateship. It's a ship. It goes through the gate! < 1353467788 871257 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^shuffle lunarcrescent < 1353467803 10228 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble lunarcrescent < 1353467803 731314 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lnrrsetncecau < 1353467818 650565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble lnrrsetncecau < 1353467819 313607 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrstccuaenern < 1353467838 116685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble lrstccuaenern < 1353467838 696330 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lscueenrnactr < 1353469204 920541 :KALLISTI!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353470468 406476 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1353471653 697489 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353473567 839663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: error "oh no" < 1353473575 891978 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1353473583 412196 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this about lens again < 1353473592 822550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fromMaybe (error "oh no") blah < 1353473596 896246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1353473598 789165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fromMaybe (error "oh dear") blah < 1353473609 332433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(error "oh no", fmap coerce ff', j) < 1353474131 415905 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1353474434 688499 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1353474870 495259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1353474873 960007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this oberth effect is crazy < 1353474937 856754 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353475040 791821 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rockets are really cool < 1353475103 701269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma milkshakes < 1353475103 986866 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :milkshakes has a karma of -2678 < 1353475108 265689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy did you do this monqy < 1353475118 763144 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1353475136 487362 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So if a spacecraft is on a parabolic flyby of Jupiter with a periapsis velocity of 50 km/s, and it performs a 5 km/s burn, it turns out that the final velocity change at great distance is 22.9 km/s; giving a multiplication of the burn by 4.6 times." < 1353475153 984698 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what kind of modification you could get with a really heavy object. like a neutron star < 1353475157 193993 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, multiplication < 1353475677 758685 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353475866 178786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just now i confused myself greatly about potential energy < 1353475886 779478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if my potential energy is proportional to my distance from heavy things < 1353475897 955374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be really huge because i am so far away from all these black holes and neutron stars and shit < 1353475910 800886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think i understand now < 1353475939 562430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the best way to measure potential energy for space travel is to say that being infinitely far from everything in the universe is zero potential energy < 1353475945 237005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it goes negative if you are near a heavy thing < 1353475947 706519 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just on a short distance, and an approximation to the gravitational equation < 1353475949 215335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that matches what you said above < 1353475991 203338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah it's not linear either < 1353475996 568189 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well usually with potential energy you define it relative to the ground, which is arbitrary/whatever makes sense for what you're doing < 1353475996 910824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1353476006 420344 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the usual mgh is an approximation that works if you're close enough < 1353476013 784864 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't done physics in years though so don't quote me :) < 1353476027 755175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is < 1353476055 32179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you can also compute it from escape velocity < 1353476084 576985 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait duh, it's roughly proportional to distance but it's inverse-square at some point. < 1353476086 540324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amount of kinetic energy you need in order to escape < 1353476097 217883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. to have your position not converge as t → ∞ < 1353476221 983269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the energy from a small nuclear bomb is enough to propel me to escape the milky way galaxy < 1353476235 436381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if converted perfectly to kinetic energy < 1353476242 38293 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck with that < 1353476247 381689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok < 1353476249 688432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll wear my bike helmet < 1353476260 528668 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines kmc in a cannon with a nuke behind him
< 1353476264 327125 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a circus < 1353476277 388946 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear the story of when they originally came up with that? < 1353476287 115781 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they like, left a plate next to a nuke and then set it off, with a high speed camera < 1353476293 208253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does mosh work from outside the milky way < 1353476297 40154 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only had it in one frame, but by gum was it moving fast probably! < 1353476309 633508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that gives a pretty good lower bound on the speed :) < 1353476794 704591 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1353476969 985438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Guess what everyone in that other channel is doing right now. :-( < 1353477058 915600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which other channel < 1353477062 44285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what are they doing < 1353477087 932020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typing backwards. < 1353477148 731495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1353477282 175320 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1353477525 289681 :nortti_!nortti@dsl-hkibrasgw3-ff25c000-52.dhcp.inet.fi NICK :nortti < 1353478559 920983 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1353481337 112041 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1353484310 55889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: http://imgur.com/a/pCdd7 < 1353484538 634615 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1353484744 928428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1353485688 806619 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: isn't gravitational potential energy always negative? < 1353485730 943574 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reminded of a theory stating that the total mass/energy of the universe is the same as the gravitational potential energy (except positive), I think that's what it was < 1353485739 482573 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning the total energy of the universe is zero < 1353485885 705305 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353486359 276613 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe ah, this thing I think < 1353487494 700874 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1353487977 904549 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353488368 853288 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353488787 688589 :oklo!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1353488986 204835 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-51.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1353489126 12350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1353489171 763641 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1353489293 118563 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353489374 555678 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1353489519 125650 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Jolla live event or something. http://jolla.com/ < 1353489756 251110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1353490133 477951 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1353490373 860030 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, monqy. List list list list listlist list list list list list list list list list list EVERYBODY < 1353490504 801292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353490567 731124 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say it with me. < 1353490568 591177 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can't keep down the clown." < 1353490575 916492 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this -update- < 1353490640 112628 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a staggering number of panels dedicated to repeatedly killing gamzee < 1353490897 303965 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1353490903 432682 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1353491019 891758 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353492723 337547 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353494046 123481 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1353495440 654765 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1353496018 467963 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I are hungry < 1353499267 406922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ATEN'T DEAD. < 1353499973 765837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1353500000 559587 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1353501100 967517 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1353502707 682819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1353504869 916214 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1353505430 687044 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353505465 931549 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1353505814 712360 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1353505845 219776 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-26.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1353505887 966484 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353506043 147111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1353506420 156102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1353507018 970850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353507210 462515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you know the apple retina stuff does software magic so that bitmap images get scaled up to be a reasonable size but text and stuff doesn't? < 1353507211 366801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't < 1353507213 164055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want one :( < 1353507755 141191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that using the Retina stuff can cause your retina to fall off? < 1353507756 74757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't. < 1353507756 996364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not true. < 1353508255 973311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353508390 145750 :atriq!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353508861 896547 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1353509400 165738 :Sanqui!~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky QUIT :Ping timeout: 257 seconds < 1353509405 913008 :Sanky!~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky JOIN :#esoteric < 1353509517 280910 :atriq!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not enjoying Legostar Galactica < 1353509524 485319 :atriq!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I stop reading it? < 1353509526 216640 :atriq!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discuss < 1353509645 706413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would consider that a good reason to stop reading i < 1353509646 632235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1353509678 872427 :atriq!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could persevere in the hope it improves < 1353509703 420671 :atriq!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only up to November 2005 < 1353509725 655579 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-26.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1353510122 702497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why give it a second chance < 1353510138 91040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comedies don't generally get better as they age < 1353510180 168209 :atriq!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoy El Goonish Shive now a lot more than I did a couple of years ago < 1353510369 220672 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1353510856 607081 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353510974 59942 :atriq!d917e6fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.230.252 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1353511215 541242 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1353513223 420067 :kashifpak!kashifpak@175.110.69.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353513246 681448 :kashifpak!kashifpak@175.110.69.154 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1353513260 79284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome kashifpak < 1353513263 594246 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kashifpak: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1353513291 307973 :kashifpak!kashifpak@175.110.69.154 PART :#esoteric < 1353513309 726008 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too mainstream. < 1353513510 407041 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does everyone leave the second we welcome them < 1353513515 19257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah < 1353513520 548890 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1353513578 962333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like they render to a virtual screen with a lower resolution < 1353513599 340489 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott even here < 1353513602 26398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1353513603 574478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that rendering is a combination of raster and vector elements < 1353513603 947660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1353513604 781248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is < 1353513606 38747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know that GHC's Derive{Functor,Foldable,Traversable} has a bug that makes them quadratic? < 1353513617 177694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7436 < 1353513632 4225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I just have to wait for a company that I feel happy (well, happier) giving money to to copy it < 1353513642 325698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1353513648 756764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can do the same with Linux already sort of < 1353513684 777983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :set your dpi in X high enough (and hacks to fix stuff that ignore that) that fonts are big, get your browser to scale images up, and use a gtk theme without too many bitmap elements < 1353513694 161795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1353513702 954287 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1353513716 971627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "An eta-expanded definition like foldr becomes asymptotically worse for some reason. Maybe this is expected behavior for this function, since f gets eta-expanded at each iteration?" < 1353513721 146324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is pretty much semantically required < 1353513732 776894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: THEN WHY DOES SPJ FIND IT SO SURPRISING < 1353513739 237451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since eta-retraction is invalid in Haskell < 1353513743 207685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eta-deexpansion??) < 1353513748 732234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reduction? < 1353513755 686617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Doesn't stop GHC from doing it. < 1353513770 609190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-fpedantic-bottoms, man < 1353513779 688936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes GHC has invalid optimisations and this is bad < 1353513780 572356 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1353513798 874078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably GHC should compile this example efficiently because it does such optimisations < 1353513817 565747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly enough, GHC's invalid optimizations tend to eta-expand, not eta-contract < 1353513830 956195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the only time I've ever bothered to catch them < 1353513864 845002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:01 i think its because ghc won't inline a function unless it has been given all of its arguments < 1353513867 878275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:01 so they tend to eta expand like mad in hope they'll give it all its args < 1353513924 927982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only we had edwardk's perfect proprietary Haskell compiler < 1353513967 20884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if only" < 1353514003 24873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyway if you've ever used DeriveFoo, I hope you're glad that your code is slow. :-( < 1353514025 599085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did I ever tell you about my shell / python coroutine idea? < 1353514070 59397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO kmc should write a Haskell compiler that doesn't suck < 1353514079 922866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Nope. < 1353514090 297644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started writing a haskell compiler but "doesn't suck" was not one of the design goals < 1353514090 497575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo "its called thc havnet u heard" < 1353514106 188795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were the design goals < 1353514116 451145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so python would suck as an interactive command shell, but it's superior to bash for certain data munging tasks < 1353514140 534098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i want each interactive bash to have an associated python interpreter in the background < 1353514144 173646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that i can do like < 1353514148 716153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ cmd1 | cmd2 | py -i foo < 1353514149 937195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ py < 1353514175 118166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bar = ' - '.join(x.strip().split(':')[3] for x in foo) < 1353514179 371242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> ^D < 1353514184 231114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ py -o bar | cmd3 | ... < 1353514210 434732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is not too hard to implement so, has it been done, and is it crazy? < 1353514217 214402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there really such an advantage over just running a command? < 1353514224 397738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, other than "Python doesn't support one-liners" < 1353514239 626351 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when people will realize that using bash as a standard language has been a terrible mistake < 1353514253 524602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah there's that < 1353514261 493473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the same property makes interactive python kind of limited as well < 1353514276 376882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are goin gto do that might as well use a nicer interface than bash for the shell part too :P < 1353514291 355189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's almost as good to do python -c' ... python script < 1353514291 540342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "like what" < 1353514292 240933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also have you seen ipython < 1353514294 668548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1353514294 822476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it does similar things to this < 1353514298 357337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use ipython all the time < 1353514301 629310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in i think ls | cat ... works in ipython < 1353514308 325051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore the fact that that pipeline makes no sense < 1353514310 393628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1353514314 367928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"imo this is reason enough to switch to ruby" < 1353514314 513305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls | cat - /dev/random | ... makes sense < 1353514317 633671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for being dumb < 1353514330 470308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it implements full shell syntax though < 1353514338 601132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Tcl is the future. < 1353514342 293767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be kind of crazy < 1353514351 932657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you are goin gto do that might as well use a nicer interface than bash for the shell part too < 1353514355 8934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no see < 1353514358 632147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is that #haskell fallacy that i hate < 1353514373 721247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you're going to fix a bug in any program you might as well rewrite that program in haskell and also your operating system" < 1353514411 749247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to try to convert me to zsh or whatever then fine < 1353514411 931960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my point is that this is a relatively huge engineering effort, so basing it on bash would be a shame when there are things like fish (fish isn't perfect but I think fixing the flaws would probably be less effort in total esp. since I bet bash's codebase is awful) < 1353514430 703213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't think this would require extensive changes to bash < 1353514432 106340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well zsh is like bash but with marginally nicer interactive features :P < 1353514442 934015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you are doing "py -o bar" < 1353514446 366913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just "bar | ..." < 1353514459 440654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i would hope to make it not depend on the shell you use < 1353514459 585571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or only minimally < 1353514459 585811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1353514464 853411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about python 'blah' < named pipe < 1353514470 487442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat named pipe > blah < 1353514471 530884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1353514482 328630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have a bashrc line that starts up the python process and puts in an env var a path to some socket or something where it can be talked to < 1353514486 289066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure that the py -i / py -o model is bset here < 1353514499 20710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems better if you instead have somethin glike py -a < 1353514499 873734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then 'py' would use that < 1353514501 704433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which runs function with the input < 1353514506 402237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was thinking about that too < 1353514508 616788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you would do cmd1 | cmd2 | py -a foo | cmd3 | ... instead < 1353514516 800517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't python have -e? < 1353514520 298841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by defining bar = lambda foo: ' - '.join(x.strip().split(':')[3] for x in foo) < 1353514521 658830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are def. cases where you want something more complicated than that < 1353514523 939671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it has -c < 1353514524 117918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl has -e. Also oneliners. < 1353514527 674819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one-line python is painful a lot < 1353514529 973956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby has -e < 1353514532 393501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i think perl is better for this < 1353514539 516735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with perl i think it's not really needed < 1353514540 487157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually < 1353514547 614103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this is why i use ruby more than python" < 1353514562 978147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Clearly the answer is to use node.js with asynchronous callback functions instead of coroutines. < 1353514572 998944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"coroutines? more like slowroutines" < 1353514581 488710 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My init scripts are webscale" < 1353514584 261382 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-26.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1353514625 812674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1353514657 225409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> set (every 5) 'Q' "this is just some text to say hi monqy with to elliott" < 1353514659 288304 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Qhis Qs juQt soQe teQt toQsay Qi moQqy wQth tQ ellQott" < 1353514735 200995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t every < 1353514736 672100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral a1, Applicative f, TraversableWithIndex a1 t, Indexed a1 k) => a1 -> k (a -> f a) (t a -> f (t a)) < 1353514737 657989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t set < 1353514739 138677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Setting s t a b -> b -> s -> t < 1353514756 223354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> every 5 ~. 'Q' $ "is this right" < 1353514758 21977 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `~.' < 1353514758 369974 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1353514758 515008 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `.' (line 105), `P..... < 1353514762 605927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> every 5 .~ 'Q' $ "is this right" < 1353514764 800582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Qs thQs riQht" < 1353514770 277798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> every 0 .~ 'Q' $ "is this right" < 1353514772 582189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*Exception: divide by zero < 1353514778 551279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1353514786 317119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the zero police is coming to take you away < 1353514793 306854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular this python shell would be persistent < 1353514802 896100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> every (-1) .~ 'Q' $ "is this right" < 1353514805 766202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "QQQQQQQQQQQQQ" < 1353514806 82476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can jump back and forth and keep its state < 1353514814 227024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> every (-2) .~ 'Q' $ "is this right" < 1353514816 446962 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "QsQtQiQ QiQhQ" < 1353514818 880393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it use abs or something < 1353514820 88973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think makes it a lot more powerful than python -c, perl -e, etc. < 1353514829 479881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: @ handles this well < 1353514829 651042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi < 1353514837 603142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every k = iwhere (\i -> i `mod` k == 0) < 1353514868 787181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iwhere (== 'q') .~ 'Q' $ "abcdqe" < 1353514870 714114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Int' with `GHC.Types.Char' < 1353514874 622644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1353514876 345269 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> where (== 'q') .~ 'Q' $ "abcdqe" < 1353514879 216876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `where' < 1353514879 838356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1353514882 982794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t iwhere < 1353514884 623996 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Applicative f, TraversableWithIndex i t, Indexed i k) => (i -> Bool) -> k (a -> f a) (t a -> f (t a)) < 1353514897 187003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1353515071 378832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dol um ber ist < 1353515132 118391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the equivalent of iwhere for values < 1353515140 183154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :filtered < 1353515144 356062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's illegal. < 1353515166 708891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaks the traversal laws unless you use it carefully. < 1353515180 724710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"its okay for folds tho" < 1353515227 965664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with filtered (== 'q') .~ 'Q' < 1353515241 39429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :over f . over g = over (f.g) < 1353515291 517065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> over (filtered even) (+1) . over (filtered even) (+1) $ 2 < 1353515292 401454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> over (filtered even) ((+1) . (+1)) $ 2 < 1353515293 841970 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1353515296 332269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1353515307 101581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t over < 1353515310 739907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Setting s t a b -> (a -> b) -> s -> t < 1353515329 600325 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :stabOf eye < 1353515463 815673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ugh, is cheater talking a lot in #haskell right now < 1353515478 432846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "how would i know" < 1353515504 985751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you just said something in #haskell < 1353515508 380726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably you are paying some attention to it < 1353515521 29620 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The alot is talking cheater in #haskell < 1353515545 827858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've had him on /ignore for a while now. < 1353515551 872887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he's the only person I've ever /ignored < 1353515574 267390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether he just hates me personally or what. < 1353515586 620590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hates me personally < 1353515587 664943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that helps < 1353515615 996427 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1353515761 512596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1353515788 449641 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-26.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1353516420 499561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^.) < 1353516421 709315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^..) < 1353516422 275263 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s -> Getting a s t a b -> a < 1353516423 409239 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s -> Getting [a] s t a b -> [a] < 1353516437 41637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's the difference < 1353516446 328998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why does Getting have another parameter there < 1353516737 316328 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1353517162 516021 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Getting r s t a b = (a -> Accessor r b) -> s -> Accessor r t < 1353517166 521462 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accessor ~ Const < 1353517171 326259 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IIRC) < 1353517180 797229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1353517234 895288 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353517251 425441 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ("foo", "bar") ^. both < 1353517253 422409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "foobar" < 1353517255 426560 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ("foo", "bar") ^.. both < 1353517257 579787 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["foo","bar"] < 1353517262 356848 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353517281 183437 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (Sum 4, Sum 5) ^. both < 1353517283 262020 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sum {getSum = 9} < 1353517287 612482 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (4, 5) ^.. both < 1353517289 683012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [4,5] < 1353517531 209975 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1353518320 445069 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353518574 753815 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src both < 1353518575 63528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. < 1353518666 934059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, expecting @src to be reasonable < 1353518677 236659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's both f (a,b) = (,) <$> f a <*> f b) < 1353518687 969677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1353518690 565679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :both (a,b) f = ... < 1353518755 437102 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, both f (a,b) < 1353518774 115903 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like traverse f [a,b] < 1353518790 449646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t both < 1353518791 927925 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => (a -> f b) -> (a, a) -> f (b, b) < 1353518797 546210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1353519286 171518 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1353519686 819975 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1353520122 592708 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... how do I make git restore the working tree to a pristine state. git reset --hard seems to keep ignored files, but I want those gone too < 1353520133 433477 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :git clean < 1353520148 974002 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, .... which is not even listed in "git help" < 1353520158 576449 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :git help -a < 1353520162 551066 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :git clean -x I think < 1353520163 480837 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :riight < 1353520173 617565 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :git help lists only common commands < 1353520175 962274 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The most commonly used git commands are:" < 1353520203 578333 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I did git clean -x -f aaand wait for it: < 1353520204 790836 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not removing arch/arm/include/generated/ < 1353520210 665246 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1353520225 269983 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted a *pristine* checkout < 1353520234 762106 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-d < 1353520242 512772 :Deewiant!~deewiant@109.75.188.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-d says "remove untracked directories in addition to untracked files" < 1353520242 657898 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1353520246 738161 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1353520271 428099 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if any IRC client follows the RTL override codepoint?‮ < 1353520301 495279 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353520316 569508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably xchat does? < 1353520321 242235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other things that use external stuff to render text < 1353520439 794740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think i have seen it in xchat < 1353520448 527383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just override but following the bidi algorithm < 1353520455 506222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you write arabic it will show up RTL < 1353520514 181271 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, xchat behaves strangely if you try to select RTL text though < 1353520528 967681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1353520537 289603 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the text reverts to LTR in the selection iirc < 1353520558 467888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1353520744 531688 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it did last I checked at least, which was probably over a year ago by now < 1353520759 188836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xchat behaves really weirdly with proportional fonts also < 1353520834 876813 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353520886 309321 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1353520982 869473 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I never even tried that < 1353520994 371925 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but out of interest, what does it do when you use them? < 1353521042 923717 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353521083 275002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly works (I use it) < 1353521086 42123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you select text it redraws often < 1353521088 462689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that sometimes looks weird < 1353521114 661094 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1353521354 704462 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1353521481 701680 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353521772 613230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (%~) < 1353521774 295556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Setting s t a b -> (a -> b) -> s -> t < 1353523059 180365 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (-1)^0.5 < 1353523061 236811 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `b0' in the constraints: < 1353523061 593943 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.Real.Fractional b0... < 1353523067 326773 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (-1.0)^0.5 < 1353523069 105694 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `b0' in the constraints: < 1353523069 442843 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.Real.Fractional b0... < 1353523079 821899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding .0 never helps ambiguity < 1353523093 766882 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (-1)**0.5 :: Complex CReal < 1353523095 913698 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 :+ 1.0 < 1353523156 485246 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A graph of the real part of (-1)**x is a cosine wave periodic in 2, and of the imaginary part is a sine wave periodic in 2 < 1353523233 143871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes around and around and around and around. < 1353523241 430206 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "and around " < 1353523243 362316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "and around and around and around and around and around and around and arou... < 1353523280 111483 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353523381 726498 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1353523826 945098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for *that* long, I'm sure. < 1353523973 522288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "and around " & every 2 .~ "q" < 1353523975 330632 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `&' < 1353523981 977454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let (&) = (%) < 1353523984 892679 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1353523987 117197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "and around " & every 2 .~ "q" < 1353523988 986407 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[GHC.Types.Char]' < 1353523989 322219 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual ty... < 1353523995 681690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1353523997 341775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1353524013 925428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "and around " % every 2 .~ "q" < 1353524015 723831 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `every' < 1353524029 388229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, it's not standard? < 1353524154 684455 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1353524320 851742 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353524402 746939 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353524443 869995 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353524736 965227 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353524920 961235 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353525527 448319 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://literallyunbelievable.org/post/36209732360/can-you-beat-this-a-facebook-user-has-uploaded < 1353525658 878161 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 12 million photos over 6 days, that's 2 million a day, and a day has less than 100000 seconds, so that's about 20-30 fps video over the entire trip < 1353525692 379015 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that should take a lot less space than 15 TB < 1353525736 990247 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Motion JPEG is not very efficient. < 1353525740 507478 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-woman-finally-uploads-all-12-million-pictures,30443/ ^^;; < 1353525746 529976 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an onion piece < 1353525793 910168 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-219.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15TB is faintly plausible for high quality motion JPEG though. < 1353525850 800217 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1353525862 850811 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you videotaped your entire vacation, would you really use motion jpeg? < 1353525877 279165 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :literallyunbelievable.org catalogues people's responses to theonion.com pieces < 1353525890 367149 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does #esoteric , apparently. < 1353525895 725089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprising how many people think they're real < 1353525918 380698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't we responding to the literallyunbelievable piece though? < 1353525931 950798 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh < 1353525973 847394 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one, I think we've concluded that it's definitely not literally unbelievable to take 12 million pictures of your vacation < 1353525980 996851 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stories from The Onion as interpreted by Facebook" < 1353525991 477547 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not know that India Today was a part of Facebook. < 1353526004 817534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... as interpreted by Literally Unbelievable as interpreted by #esoteric < 1353526087 130338 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://literallyunbelievable.org/post/35986654788/wow-osama-os-still-alive < 1353526104 975668 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Osama OS < 1353526226 267855 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://literallyunbelievable.org/post/35773802529/r-we-for-real ... I think ... The Onion actually taught people something? < 1353526278 451504 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“India Today is a part of Facebook!” < 1353526283 917047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Individually captioning those 12 million pictures in 8 months does mean you couldn't spend more than about 1.7 seconds per caption, assuming you spent 24 hours per day captioning. (Or 1.15 seconds, assuming a more reasonable 16 hours/day schedule.) < 1353526343 453610 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: The war one :-D < 1353526360 756807 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they were individually captioned? that's literally unbelievable! < 1353526405 301702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the captions were like "cute!!!" according to the article < 1353526409 43756 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta use all the information here < 1353526647 696672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw ls | cat can make sense < 1353526668 943369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it disables colors and gives you one file per line < 1353526674 696373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is useful for copy-pasting < 1353526679 84079 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls -1 < 1353526682 903171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there's some ls flag for that < 1353526699 59633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1353526704 255451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could remember that, or i could use the tools i already know < 1353526738 52560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course forcing a command's output to be not a tty is useful for things other than ls < 1353526742 793667 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls | xclip -i is even more useful for copy-pasting < 1353527267 186924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat | something | cat # double action < 1353527361 201159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the way < 1353527383 520478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also write "cat foo | bar" rather than "bar < foo" to preserve the left to right flow of data < 1353527395 385940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i've been told this is proof that my unix penis is very small < 1353527410 677653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of all the resources wasted by that extra cat process < 1353527416 61812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could have gone towards feeding the hungry < 1353527428 443632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also write "< foo bar" but that's just fucked up < 1353527485 828208 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could be running folding@home, those extra cpu cycles could go towards curing cancer < 1353527531 444268 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is cpio just a storage format like tar or is compression built in? < 1353527563 491291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1353527588 256642 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :both? < 1353527604 827683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :former < 1353527607 104066 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1353527678 897153 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1353527723 59308 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second... this makes no sense. Flashing this zip depends on the order the files are put in to the zip file. I.e. zip foo.zip a b or zip foo.zip b a < 1353527776 704010 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, how could anyone make software depend on irrelevant details like the order of input files < 1353527808 921349 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, it depends on the order of which the files are stored in the sodding zip file < 1353527816 209559 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't make much sense to me < 1353527824 290629 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the update script has to go first. < 1353527874 955930 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it may look like a zip file to you, you're probably looking at a very specific format for delivery of software updates :P < 1353527917 533954 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like how DOS' bootup files have to be the first files on the file system for the MBR to find them < 1353527917 815686 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1353527927 717587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SYS C: < 1353527956 327723 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, well, I would expect a custom open source recovery on an android phone to not care about the order though < 1353527966 967786 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: which iirc only works if you don't already have files on C: < 1353528101 372217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nisstyre: hmm true < 1353528112 570417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's more complicated than that. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/66530 has the detailed requirements. < 1353528116 914429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would actually make me feel really guilty < 1353528168 422636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS-DOS 4.0 and later seems to have a SYS.COM capable of rearranging things. < 1353528171 658031 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can also write "< foo bar" but that's just fucked up <-- you know, I have actually seen that in serious code < 1353528176 354287 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot where exactly < 1353528242 203052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the at-the-start requirements also seem slightly relaxed. < 1353528293 475886 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, if 4.0 and up can fix that automagically, I wonder why I'm familiar with the problem at all < 1353528437 284470 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :DBLSPACE.BIN < 1353528437 980481 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1353528441 285963 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that? < 1353528455 756760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember it breaking my Windows installation. < 1353528468 423322 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1353528473 849254 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1353528482 496940 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I grew up on mac btw, so I remember ResEdit and such instead < 1353528485 663412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some kind of an issue w.r.t. wfw3.11 and a dblspace'd c: drive. < 1353528520 110574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a possible setup, but there was a way to make it not work, and I hit on that. < 1353528552 618708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, free (modulo speed) disk space was nothing to scoff at. < 1353528594 621181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HLFSPACE < 1353528645 951142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HLFSPACE stores all data on disk twice, for redundancy. (Not really.) < 1353528783 47949 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, now I got it building a kernel at amm < 1353528784 271780 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :all* < 1353528837 477114 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to check if I can actually make it do what I want though < 1353528842 808089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you flashing there? < 1353528947 570632 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'm trying to build a custom kernel for my phone with ftrace support. Since some tools in the SDK need that (systrace specifically) but the stock samsung kernel lacks it. Also the Siyah kernel (which is rather nice, offers dual booting for example) lacks it. Had some issues building a modified version of that kernel though < 1353528961 570750 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be working now, but now to try with ftrace enabled as well < 1353528993 731437 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :first issue was getting the initramfs building correctly < 1353529027 740996 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would think that the automated build script would actually work. Given the errors in it I'm surprised it worked for anybody < 1353529048 995576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, now that there's perhaps a different subset of people awake... why doesn't "dropbox puburl" work for me? Is it supposed to work at all? (I mean, it "works" in the sense that it prints URLs for ~/Dropbox/Public/ stuff, but those URLs just give a 404 when accessed.) < 1353529068 827245 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is impossible it would have worked with bash < 1353529080 618171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it works fine for me. < 1353529092 834709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't know what I'm doing worng, then. < 1353529116 558042 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's "dropbox status"? < 1353529138 15654 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I just get this: < 1353529139 558420 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another instance of Dropbox (25520) is running! < 1353529144 111991 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? < 1353529167 112691 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ file ~/.dropbox-dist/dropbox < 1353529167 283239 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/arvid/.dropbox-dist/dropbox: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped < 1353529167 801027 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1353529170 184651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://sprunge.us/hYEW < 1353529177 27025 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I hit ctrl-c I get a python traceback < 1353529180 444441 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell does that work < 1353529207 194461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1353529214 383324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: file $(which dropbox) instead? < 1353529221 182206 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it is not in my path? < 1353529233 865521 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I just use the python script < 1353529235 746193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it execs a python script or embeds a python interpreter < 1353529245 216932 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't know, I just followed the install instructions way back when, when I installed it < 1353529260 433689 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think my distro has it anyway < 1353529261 311008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal using dropbox? < 1353529264 481322 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is just from dropbox.com < 1353529278 423430 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah sure, why not? I got 50 GB free for 2 years with my phone < 1353529287 297397 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is excellent for *encrypted* backups < 1353529326 453966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it runs some Python; I do get Python stuff for ^C if I try to run that binary manually. < 1353529341 407873 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why are you surprised I use dropbox? The backup program I use on my phone has built in support for syncing with it, so it is convenient. < 1353529363 995037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, where is the dropbox in your path from then? < 1353529397 361806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd expect some rant about relying on an external corporation for your data and closed source and how using scp to your own server is just as easy. :p < 1353529400 958195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I went the package manager way. < 1353529437 297772 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which I need to upgrade this laptop from 10.04 at some point, kind of soon < 1353529444 656249 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc support ends at the end of the year < 1353529470 33256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t traverseWith < 1353529470 324778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have dropbox because of that Space Race thing, but I was thinking I could use it for stupid-images-to-share-on-IRC use; it's just that the puburl just isn't working. Doing a "share link" thing (via the webface) did work, but it makes a different sort of thing. < 1353529471 471258 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `traverseWith' < 1353529471 776790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1353529471 922356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `traverseBits' (imported from Data.Bits.Lens), < 1353529478 873890 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nah, I wouldn't put unencrypted backups there though. Unless I wanted to make them public < 1353529479 44668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, what's it called. < 1353529496 609841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (1,2) % fromWithin traverse < 1353529498 201523 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(t0, t1)' with actual type `a0 :> b0' < 1353529498 489560 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (t0, t1) -> b1 < 1353529498 634266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: (a0 :> b0) -> (a0 :> b0) :> c0 < 1353529499 69408 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I really need more RAM in this laptop, building a kernel makes the input lag unless I close firefox < 1353529504 165894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: maybe you have changed :p < 1353529505 886595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (1,2) % fromWithin both < 1353529507 666611 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(t0, t1)' with actual type `a0 :> b0' < 1353529507 986986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: (t0, t1) -> b1 < 1353529508 133518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actual type: (a0 :> b0) -> (a0 :> b0) :> c0 < 1353529517 438767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fromWithin < 1353529519 102220 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimpleLensLike (Control.Lens.Internal.Bazaar c c) b c -> (a :> b) -> (a :> b) :> c < 1353529522 222018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried a lazy google for dropbox puburl 404 but didn't see too many complaints. < 1353529533 319341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you learned about lens yet < 1353529535 172856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is super fancy! < 1353529545 865288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please note: New Dropbox accounts created after October 4, 2012 no longer have a Public folder. Don't worry! Every account created prior to this date will still have a Public folder. If you would like to enable a Public folder on a new account, see the instructions below (Creating a Public folder). < 1353529548 943604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not any concrete implementation, no < 1353529551 361925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, all the extra functionality provided by the Public folder is now accessible anywhere in your Dropbox. Now all you need to do to share and preview files and folders in your Dropbox is select Share link via your computers, phones, and tablets." < 1353529555 848330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1353529556 134231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no i mean the "lens" package < 1353529558 55015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I doubt I would use google drive btw, I try to not put everything in the hands of one company < 1353529559 790776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what i am using here < 1353529562 1822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose my ~/Dropbox/Public isn't actually a real public folder. < 1353529565 245341 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :google already knows way too much < 1353529568 251012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: welp, glad I got in before that < 1353529584 357493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It can still be enabled, there's instructions. < 1353529586 35744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard about that van lairwoofer thing < 1353529586 282822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it has lenses (incl. ones which can change the type i.e. polymorphic fields) and traversals (hence partial lenses) and effectful versions of all of this and indexed stuff and generic zippers and < 1353529595 837662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is based on those < 1353529598 377417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is edwardk's new megapackage < 1353529603 636068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dropbox links give you everything you need to share and preview files and folders. However, if you’re just a diehard fan of Public Folders, click here to enable one on your account." < 1353529603 781590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even has documentation < 1353529607 301470 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah but that sounds pretty hard for something I indeed mostly use for stupid pictures for irc < 1353529616 371854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to click on a link? < 1353529620 274779 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1353529625 406394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has some nice examples like (zipper ("hello","world") % down _1 % fromWithin traverse % focus .~ 'J' % rightmost % focus .~ 'y' % rezip) < 1353529625 709549 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : However, all the extra functionality provided by the Public folder is now accessible anywhere in your Dropbox. Now all you need to do to share and preview files and folders in your Dropbox is select Share link via your computers, phones, and tablets." <-- wait, can you see which folders are public and so on then? < 1353529636 186492 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do stuff just automatically become public? < 1353529651 25809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I'm a diehard fan of public folders, but I am a fan of getting links from the command-line client as opposed to navigating the webs. < 1353529665 446332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think the command-line thing can create "shared links".) < 1353529680 462400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to "Share link" specific files for them to be public. < 1353529681 991575 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1353529688 145473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those files don't need to be in any specific folders. < 1353529693 53596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can you revoke the publicness of them? < 1353529704 934745 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also can you make an entire folder, with a directory listing, public? < 1353529708 626553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you can delete the links. < 1353529713 322787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They appear separately in the webface. < 1353529727 325599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there was something about sharing an entire folder that I hit on the last Google. < 1353529741 580752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it might've been just a note that it's not possible, plus third-party things to make it happen. < 1353529766 23491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I clicked on the "enable public folder" link, and got "Error: Something went wrong. Don't worry, your files are still safe and the Dropboxers have been notified. Check out our Help Center and forums for help, or head back to home." < 1353529776 179422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps just because I wasn't signed in. < 1353529782 825110 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hm, the ftrace option breaks the kernel, oh well < 1353529819 402112 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, /proc/last_kmsg is binary garbage < 1353529823 423054 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a bit extreme < 1353529826 620124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your Public folder is now enabled. Your existing Public folder was renamed to "Public (old)"." < 1353529830 91495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaay. < 1353529853 540925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it is edwardk's new megapackage <-- did you see his recent reddit comment about how he found haskell? with him 2006 seems so short ago... < 1353529870 759190 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2006... < 1353529879 973340 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was about the same time I found the joys of the internet < 1353529899 329500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: iirc yes, I think I knew that date already < 1353529904 714100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Hackage is actually post-2006 though! < 1353529906 15864 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, what, really? < 1353529916 950397 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I knew it existed beforehand < 1353529926 62955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, now the puburl works. (Except that of course the .jpg isn't EXIF-autorotated, unlike it was when I "Share link"ed it. (It has a previewy kind of a thing.)) < 1353529930 472360 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would have been when I joined the UMMF < 1353529935 406401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Hackage is ~2007 < 1353529936 307218 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got linked IWC from there < 1353529942 628671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, looks like late 2006 maybe < 1353529944 698564 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thence to everywhere else < 1353529952 944508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC edwardk has said Hackage came around right as he was about to give up on Haskell < 1353529955 960288 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, UMMF? < 1353529965 826846 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unofficial Murderous Maths Forum < 1353529969 338 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now deserted < 1353529976 817599 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq, so you used internet before 2006? < 1353529996 251511 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1353530012 843732 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take in mind, I was 11, 12? < 1353530013 931425 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you used it back in 96 though? < 1353530021 171116 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...probably not < 1353530036 308305 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The earliest I remember using a computer would have been 98, I think < 1353530051 510044 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the 28 kbit modem my dad got in either late 95 or early 96 < 1353530059 626307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think our university is going to be getting that 25 GB. :/ :/ :\ (Unless the Space Race is going to continue for a long long time.) < 1353530087 930298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yay, now the puburl works. (Except that of course the .jpg isn't EXIF-autorotated, unlike it was when I "Share link"ed it. (It has a previewy kind of a thing.)) <-- that is because your browser fails < 1353530120 382280 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what 25 GB? < 1353530133 187383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 GB/s connection? < 1353530140 777607 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be pretty cool < 1353530141 280034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 25 GB of dropbox space. < 1353530145 92728 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1353530156 625217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace -- that thing. < 1353530163 723412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a kind of a University-specific thing. < 1353530168 697830 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1353530172 153121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least we're at the top of the Finland Leaderboard. < 1353530185 654574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we were on the global top 10 for like several hours! < 1353530193 440682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the cost for 50 GB btw, as a private customer? It doesn't show it to me for some reason, just the 100 GB level < 1353530216 504406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's all MIT and National University of Singapore and so on, they have a slight advantage in the number of students. < 1353530220 895185 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is because I already get 50 GB from that promo that came with my phone < 1353530227 663006 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did they remove the 50 GB level? < 1353530246 383299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out where you can see those anyway. < 1353530260 157582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there. < 1353530268 843936 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't show anything else than 100/200/500 for me either. < 1353530272 602670 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1353530276 80758 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1353530283 706748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open University is at #10 in the UK. That's a bit silly. < 1353530359 16621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit disingenuous that the "Get free space!" link leads to a page where you can pay for space. < 1353530368 134487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose it's still more "free space" as in empty. < 1353530380 354836 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1353530408 672086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: surely types like "type IndexedTraversal i s t a b = forall f k. (Indexed i k, Applicative f) => k (a -> f b) (s -> f t)" must tempt you < 1353530416 980105 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could get a total of 3*125M for "connecting" Facebook and Twitter accounts and following Dropbox on Twitter. < 1353530420 686648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't quite seem worth it. < 1353530433 846019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : why does everyone leave the second we welcome them <-- with all the people who have left that way you'd think there should be enough for a big other kind of esoteric channel somewhere... < 1353530460 446113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(last i asked the dalnet one was tiny) < 1353530499 254069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: tempt me to run away screaming, you mean? < 1353530707 697049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you all see http://blog.burtonthird.com/?p=81 < 1353530713 850035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it's cool!! You can compose lenses with just function (.) < 1353530721 938970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think this is really interesting enough to merit such a detailed writeup, but it's kinda amusing < 1353530729 616026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i heard that < 1353530737 594091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and do things like both f (a,b) = (,) <$> f a <*> f b < 1353530748 387489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ("abc", "def") % both .~ "q" < 1353530750 258283 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ("q","q") < 1353530754 223863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ("abc", "def") ^. both < 1353530756 168302 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "abcdef" < 1353530823 298178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"First things first, we needed a way to automatically generate lots of email addresses. They didn’t actually need to be MIT email addresses for us to earn points, but what fun would it be if they weren’t? We’re fortunate that MIT keeps a relatively open network, so students are able to create their own @mit.edu mailing lists without any approval." < 1353530823 483512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (%) < 1353530824 890779 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> (a -> b) -> b < 1353530826 635755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could possibly go wrong < 1353530835 915846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Speaking of 25 Gbps network connections, I did hear a rumour that there was some kind of a project to start expanding the 10Gbps backbone further inside the computer science building. The 1Gbps switches are sometimes a bit overloaded when e.g. someone starts a 150-task Condor job and all those tasks attempt to fetch the same file over NFS. < 1353530857 378224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ("abc", "def") % both %~ reverse < 1353530859 338045 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ("cba","fed") < 1353530859 716388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i guess you don't really need that Data.Ratio operator < 1353530869 801695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's being renamed to (&) because of complaints about the overlap < 1353530873 986682 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353530879 241039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, these sysadm group meeting minutes are always so depressing. "Triton's MATLAB is broken. Triton's disk system needs more memory." < 1353530881 530752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but (/) is a thing so I don't really like Data.Ratio's (%) anyway) < 1353530890 327384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :& isn't already used? < 1353530896 361893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1353530898 237949 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprisingly, no < 1353530903 893229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (&) < 1353530904 211659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude (&&) :: Bool -> Bool -> Bool < 1353530904 508650 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Bool (&&) :: Bool -> Bool -> Bool < 1353530904 653629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Arrow (&&&) :: Arrow a => a b c -> a b c' -> a b (c, c') < 1353530907 950110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1353530908 495005 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a bunch advocating (|>) < 1353530910 740892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not helpful. < 1353530916 292583 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that overlaps with Data.Sequence < 1353530930 240505 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "Condor job"? < 1353530942 941969 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also couldn't you use multicast to deal with that < 1353530959 448274 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nfs probably doesn't do multicast < 1353530984 682165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Condor is this "use idle time of regular workstations as a computation grid" queue/etc. system. < 1353530986 286234 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, well sure, but couldn't you replace it? < 1353530996 186636 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah nice, is it open source? < 1353530996 350288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The next issue was that we asked MIT’s network administrators how we could programmatically create lists, and they told us we couldn’t. Making 30,000 mailing lists the next day probably wouldn’t look too good, so we came up with an alternative." < 1353531006 64844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (&) = 1 in (&) < 1353531007 865713 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1353531022 317633 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1353531033 735554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I believe it is, yes. We've got I think around 140 workstations, most of them quad-core Xeons, and there's usually quite a lot of idle capacity there. < 1353531040 351241 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait, I want to read the context to that, where is it from? < 1353531060 515862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HTCondor was formerly known as Condor; the name was changed in October 2012 to resolve a trademark lawsuit." < 1353531063 985975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, heh. < 1353531070 137637 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1353531085 157763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://blog.burtonthird.com/?p=81 < 1353531097 816592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which kmc linked above, many times the size of your scrollback ago < 1353531129 12752 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah probably, I'm using a small laptop atm < 1353531170 657362 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1353531177 777536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dropbox’s founder and MIT Alum, Drew Houston, tried to lessen our emotional damage by creating a “United States Leaderboard” where we still held the #1 position, but the damage was already done." < 1353531185 2019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to think they also thought of us while doing that. < 1353531189 214079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They probably didn't.) < 1353531192 269168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was hoping for some kind of story after the tech details. :/ < 1353531246 366001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1353531433 851581 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353531565 451996 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, some interesting scams there < 1353531585 127764 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully the hack was reverted < 1353531729 955064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds more or less impossible to revert < 1353531735 711505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they deserve it for initiative anyway < 1353532336 758465 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what happened? < 1353532356 102733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: rocks fell & everybody died < 1353532386 630236 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scam MIT pulled off, something to do with Dropbox < 1353532431 600982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: that was not terribly helpful :P < 1353532446 877055 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although technically true < 1353532447 849899 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353532462 345640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean the #haskell thing < 1353532479 608705 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that < 1353532485 997716 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One problem at a time < 1353532509 157288 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It fixed his problem, but didn't answer why he had a problem < 1353532511 799536 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, are people still in #haskell? < 1353532523 903540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well his "problem" is that his GHC is broken < 1353532529 533059 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1353532532 969795 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a big problem < 1353532537 377555 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, at least me and elliott < 1353532560 480287 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly me < 1353532607 870078 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes check out this "haskell" thing
< 1353532776 855495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no one goes there any more, it's too crowded < 1353532813 417153 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's people who don't know what they're doing (eg, me) helping people who don't think they do < 1353533001 935262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that dropbox thing is not really a "hack" < 1353533006 320461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in either MIT or general usage < 1353533035 937040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"check out this awesome hack where i got people to buy herbal viagra from me by automatically posting the link to a ton of blogs and wikis!" < 1353533582 47032 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1353534112 248422 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1353534760 754938 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : well his "problem" is that his GHC is broken <-- how is it broken? < 1353534769 334781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, his GHC < 1353534772 970738 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :not GHC in general < 1353534778 120166 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, misread that < 1353534847 98477 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well okay, whatever the terminology it is a scam < 1353534969 398085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure elliott would be more than capable of arguing that ghc is broken, but would find it boring. am i close? < 1353535045 45669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends what you mean by broken < 1353535049 544398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has optimisations that break Haskell semantics < 1353535108 279927 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that seems a bit silly < 1353535119 124077 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :International Bakery http://www.itslenny.com/recording.php?file=de45d6e156191bbe92c872cab04c8824 < 1353535128 123594 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anything you would run into normally? < 1353535143 195520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone ever been bitten in practice by build/foldr fusion theoretically not being compatible with seq? < 1353535156 990398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that wasn't the example I was thinking of < 1353535160 461569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, lens ran into it :) < 1353535166 447082 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh? < 1353535168 358811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, in an edge-case example < 1353535173 710815 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1353535174 426445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the problem is that GHC does invalid eta-expansions < 1353535185 589457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like its optimiser can equate f and (\x -> f x) < 1353535189 716260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but these are not the same in the presence of _|_ < 1353535194 147831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, parametricity not being entirely compatible) < 1353535201 10758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because _|_ = _|_ but (\x -> _|_ x) =/= _|_ < 1353535210 672478 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just about to say that seemed sensible, but right, it is not in that case < 1353535237 376420 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does ghc do that? Does it offer such a great speed advantage? < 1353535292 233025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spj doesn't know of a way to get decent optimisation without it < 1353535293 101316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably < 1353535299 149169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is about inlining and stuff I think < 1353535301 562853 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1353535371 648306 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't personally think of a non-contrived way of running into that issue though... but I guess at least one of them exists. < 1353535815 335998 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1353535984 944638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps forcing something of function type should be a n-oop < 1353535987 474961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no-op < 1353535992 396872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would probably break other shit though < 1353536124 537693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1353536361 883496 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1353536583 164532 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong Number http://www.itslenny.com/recording.php?file=7c89a6e66edca1256a35c7cb3bc6f794 < 1353536584 178510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means the code to evaluate an expression needs to _know_ whether it is a function type, which i don't think is currently the case < 1353536638 381301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not in all cases < 1353536643 474158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAP objects are known to have function type < 1353536708 891493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is a FUN_* < 1353536713 314392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and those are considered already whnf, are they not? < 1353536735 126316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1353536840 801361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely suspect that keeping track of that information will be equivalent to reinstating the old Seq type class < 1353536865 799838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the solution is the one older Haskell versions had < 1353536876 61703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was dropped for bad reasons < 1353536878 977243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just like fail not being in Monad) < 1353536936 773439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is to put seq in a class < 1353536944 605667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1353536946 729573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreover however, you might very well _want_ to pre-compute a long evaluating resulting in a function. < 1353536984 85506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true too < 1353536993 145520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*evaluation < 1353536995 368127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is a tale of musts over wants though :P < 1353537006 245442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it would be convenient to put side-effects here..." < 1353537018 229940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway it is safe to provide a *variant* of seq on functions, I think < 1353537041 29172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume the old Seq class worked for functions too. < 1353537050 655617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC: no. < 1353537052 971534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was half the point < 1353537221 443098 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1353537224 183742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, http://www.mat.uc.pt/~pedro/cientificos/funcional/haskell-report-1.4-html/basic.html#sect6.2.7 < 1353537226 932277 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-17-15-117.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1353537249 561598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/nope/yes it did/ < 1353537298 835234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1353537301 56533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is bad < 1353537306 991354 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insurance Company http://www.itslenny.com/recording.php?file=c969235df6839ae39eb119d303bfa727 < 1353537310 580035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the solution is to not have an impure language < 1353537349 771335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the heap of haskell data types these days that are newtype wrappers over functions, it would be a total mess if seq couldn't be applied to any of them < 1353537385 379418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not really < 1353537397 660932 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what causes the much-promoted "violation" of monad laws for Reader/IO/etc. < 1353537406 622549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :standing by my real solution though < 1353537445 141983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use a non-newtype newtype-like data to do that < 1353537456 388105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a hack < 1353537471 353104 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1353537474 423243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more importantly that's slow :p < 1353537511 277751 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1353538336 851267 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1353538801 265060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1353538810 605523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1353538859 452060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh. < 1353538861 851946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, not standard. < 1353538868 663937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the difference is that one gives you a list. < 1353538915 38306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1353539145 699122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sumOf _1 ("hello","there") < 1353539148 5185 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hello" < 1353539159 479473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ("hi","monqy")^.. both < 1353539161 567969 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["hi","monqy"] < 1353539170 953581 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> _1 < 1353539172 977340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variables `s0', `t0', `a0', `b0' in the constraint: < 1353539173 282710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Cont... < 1353539179 926917 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t _1 < 1353539181 415108 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Field1 s t a b) => (a -> f b) -> s -> f t < 1353539187 363431 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help < 1353539199 406834 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of type variables < 1353539207 485254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty alongside < 1353539209 184330 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => LensLike (Control.Lens.Internal.Context a b) s t a b -> LensLike (Control.Lens.Internal.Context a' b') s' t' a' b' -> ((a, a') -> f (b, b')) -> (s, s') -> f (t, t') < 1353539212 934634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1353539214 791687 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1353539369 267805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "whoa, dude" < 1353539375 567081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "what would it even mean" < 1353539381 330532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To have a Traversal with Monad.) < 1353539395 846925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've wondered about that and haven't come up with anything interesting.) < 1353539469 18490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get johnw's point < 1353539476 847026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't either. < 1353539544 971222 :dedis3!~dedis3@akw403.cs.yale.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1353539618 702310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I get it even less < 1353539638 202641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"even less than "not"" < 1353539647 517912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :""knot" getting it??" < 1353539674 847019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a good way of saying "I don't want to change the subject because I'm confused" < 1353539864 143687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How do you feel about DeriveFunctor? < 1353539889 352628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the point was that he didn't know not every functor was applicative < 1353539905 719240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1353539906 419713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1353539907 967676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still confused < 1353540133 181353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/7436 < 1353540153 784577 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf < 1353540193 15858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"very surprised" "Truly bizarre" -- Simon Peyton Jones, Haskell implementor < 1353540374 122792 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :from Microsoft™ < 1353540473 998043 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not what he said about the exponential time instances < 1353540485 93663 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/1544 < 1353540537 185614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I like how all the progress on this bug has been changing the milestone for every release. < 1353540549 14358 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackage gread < 1353540549 348063 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/gread < 1353540557 641806 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackage greads < 1353540558 30012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/greads < 1353540570 51292 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackage greadses < 1353540570 362940 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/greadses < 1353540711 11923 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle GRead < 1353540711 560414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Generics.Text gread :: Data a => ReadS a < 1353540711 872395 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :package bytestringreadp < 1353540712 17806 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.Posix.IO NonBlockingRead :: FdOption < 1353540724 290566 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hackage ChristmasTree < 1353540724 647974 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/ChristmasTree < 1353540734 334989 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the worst package name ever < 1353540746 942822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing Haskell's Read Implementation Such That by Mainpulating ASTs it Reads Expressions Efficiently < 1353540761 593967 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, really? < 1353540767 774396 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really. < 1353540777 863259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :backronym of the year < 1353540786 404323 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1353540899 154894 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :christmaree < 1353540904 211319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1353540917 78401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that is the best package name in the history of civilization < 1353540931 847015 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1353540937 548473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a great backronym < 1353540944 991046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is grammatical and does not cherry pick letters very much < 1353540946 187240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like "asT" -> AST < 1353540962 833105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :inventing cool acronyms requires unusual skill < 1353540972 547515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1353541017 886408 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-240-27.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a reference? I swear I've seen that joke before < 1353541019 185275 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1353541089 909461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan early rises: just another noodle < 1353541255 214684 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very amusing, gleefully inventing neat acronyms. < 1353541265 682990 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember last time i did this < 1353541281 544377 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :irltidt? < 1353541285 370294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :impotent oxen noodling < 1353541292 636775 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about me < 1353541294 205935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodles: good for acronyms < 1353541318 639421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sorry, i got stuck finding something giving "deja vu" < 1353541334 603479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.humblebundle.com/double-fine < 1353541343 617729 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elephant libel litigation impinges on theatric traits < 1353541363 817783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: please, hoover, a noodley tell-tale oratory making hinders only ocular veracity, evaporating reason < 1353541377 81269 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor < 1353541382 983049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: fuck you < 1353541402 560140 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, should i pay < 1353541422 379119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: attention or money < 1353541428 896613 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either < 1353541429 780454 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1353541492 271615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"who nose" < 1353541502 272285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: künstlerroman, makes child < 1353541535 357882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much to work with but i tried < 1353541557 747074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you avoided any strained words < 1353541634 648790 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :significant hassling 'alarming' correspondents; harming a friend? < 1353541703 949054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :freaky indecency: zany Zulu impales elephant < 1353541710 611947 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1353541742 21648 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1353541754 42267 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`lookup`zip['a'..'z'](['n'..'z']++['a'..]) "shachaf" < 1353541755 843976 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:58: parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1353541760 706433 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (`lookup`zip['a'..'z'](['n'..'z']++['a'..])) "shachaf" < 1353541762 848496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Just 'f',Just 'u',Just 'n',Just 'p',Just 'u',Just 'n',Just 's'] < 1353541794 735096 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle lookup < 1353541795 187639 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude lookup :: Eq a => a -> [(a, b)] -> Maybe b < 1353541795 502346 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List lookup :: Eq a => a -> [(a, b)] -> Maybe b < 1353541795 647795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.HashTable lookup :: HashTable key val -> key -> IO (Maybe val) < 1353541829 538535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: non is making it into lens, though. < 1353541837 630060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bad though < 1353541839 870089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iso (Maybe a) a < 1353541844 189483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what could go wrong" < 1353541858 665197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told edwardk i don't like it < 1353541860 99442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and filtering < 1353541866 314975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :filtering is good < 1353541871 865429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just not a traversal. < 1353541877 371202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right so its type signature is wrong < 1353541878 318974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is bad < 1353541893 809657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also told him I hated _head! but then I thought of a solution to that and he told me to open an issue < 1353541895 348587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess I will