00:00:10 * oerjan blinks 00:00:25 `date 00:00:25 `locale 00:00:27 二 12月 11 00:00:26 UTC 2012 00:00:27 LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="zh_TW.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="zh_TW 00:00:29 Gregor................... 00:00:29 `ls 00:00:30 bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ foo \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom \ zalgo \ zalgo.hi \ zalgo.hs \ zalgo.o 00:00:34 `gcc 00:00:38 gcc: no input files 00:00:44 `? välkommen 00:00:47 välkommen Hej och välkommen till den internationella knutpunkten för design och distribution av esoteriska programspråk! För mer information, se vår wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (För den andra sortens esoterism, pröva #esoteric på irc.dal.net.) 00:00:51 Darn, guess I'll have to install the locale files for gcc! 00:00:54 ok. 00:01:15 FireFly: um should that first word be there? 00:01:22 Don't ask me 00:01:24 `rm wisdom/välkommen 00:01:25 I didn't add it 00:01:26 malformed 00:01:28 No output. 00:02:50 elliott hates swedish, clearly 00:03:01 `words --swedish 50 00:03:03 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:03:05 mationel omspellet oordrin paschef byggorna vintränas avtalls duellt förmer systationat vidualera ten efter bakplatselet dånadegra skadespens omvänden örordnarna abordningar iakonia skockens munikat bedräggnit derna råddar 00:03:36 yes, he's not in the best mood today 00:04:07 oh right hm 00:04:12 `which words 00:04:14 /hackenv/bin/words 00:04:37 You could, instead of trying UTF-8 or not, make it an option whether it is UTF-8 or whether it is single-byte encoding. 00:05:09 `echo "Hej och välkommen till den internationella knutpunkten för design och distribution av esoteriska programspråk! För mer information, se vår wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (För den andra sortens esoterism, pröva #esoteric på irc.dal.net.)" >wisdom/välkommen 00:05:10 "Hej och välkommen till den internationella knutpunkten för design och distribution av esoteriska programspråk! För mer information, se vår wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (För den andra sortens esoterism, pröva #esoteric på irc.dal.net.)" >wisdom/välkommen 00:05:14 oops 00:05:16 `run echo "Hej och välkommen till den internationella knutpunkten för design och distribution av esoteriska programspråk! För mer information, se vår wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (För den andra sortens esoterism, pröva #esoteric på irc.dal.net.)" >wisdom/välkommen 00:05:19 No output. 00:05:25 `? välkommen 00:05:27 Hej och välkommen till den internationella knutpunkten för design och distribution av esoteriska programspråk! För mer information, se vår wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (För den andra sortens esoterism, pröva #esoteric på irc.dal.net.) 00:05:45 oerjan: You should make a combined SE/NO/DK welcome, like they have in shampoo bottles and the like. 00:05:57 ooh 00:06:28 ...or not. 00:07:06 `date 00:07:09 Tue Dec 11 00:07:08 UTC 2012 00:07:12 Piff 00:07:14 `locale 00:07:19 locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory \ locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory \ locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory \ LANG=fi.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="fi.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="fi.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="fi.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="fi.UTF-8" \ LC_MO 00:07:27 Oh dear X-D 00:07:39 fäncyssä 00:07:50 Not sure why that didn't work. 00:08:10 Oh, duh. 00:08:11 `date 00:08:12 ti 11.12.2012 00.08.12 +0000 00:08:17 There we go. 00:08:24 Now the vast majority of the channel should be happy. 00:08:29 `run echo fail > /fail 00:08:31 bash: /fail: Lupa evätty 00:08:38 ti 00:08:41 tuesday starts with "ti" in finnish? 00:08:54 oerjan: Tiistai. 00:09:11 SOMEONE DID A LAZY BORROWING 00:09:17 Maanantai, tiistai, keskiviikko, torstai, perjantai, lauantai, sunnuntai. 00:09:38 (Wed is literally "middleweek".) 00:09:45 As in german, then 00:10:12 oerjan: Praise be to Tyr's Day! 00:10:52 päivämäärä 00:10:57 Though personally I'm quite looking forward to Odin's Day. 00:11:02 the only word i know in finnish 00:11:37 hope it was right this time 00:11:50 google did not complain 00:11:56 `ls q 00:11:57 I like Freyja's day personally 00:11:57 ls: tiedostoa q ei voi käsitellä: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole 00:12:08 I like this locale. 00:12:22 FireFly: It is a good day. 00:12:39 fizzie: how to ask a girl for a 'date' 00:12:59 Huh, it seems that's not the actual etymology of friday 00:13:08 I'm pretty sure I've been taught that it is at one point 00:13:45 It's actually Frigg. 00:14:23 -!- micahjoh1ston has changed nick to micahjohnston. 00:14:38 Apparently some argue that Frigg and Freyja might be the same goddess 00:18:07 according to a german source frigg was the wife of odin.. not the same as freyja.. though both are associated with marriage 00:19:11 fizzie: how does the combined SE/NO/DK text work? 00:20:10 half-heartedly, usually 00:24:29 -!- lambdabot has joined. 00:25:30 no christmas without christ, no thursday without thor 00:26:00 `addquote no christmas without christ, no thursday without thor 00:26:04 864) no christmas without christ, no thursday without thor 00:26:05 by vectron's beard! 00:26:10 Hej/Hei och/og välkommen/velkommen till/til den/det internationella/internasjonale/internationale knutpunkten/knutepunktet/knudepunkt för/for design och/og distribution/distribusjon av esoteriska/esoteriske programspråk/programmeringsspråk/programmeringssprog! För/for mer information/informasjon, se vår/vores wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (För/for den andra/andre/anden sortens/typen/sort esoterism/esoterisme, pröva/prøv #esoteric 00:26:32 Something like that, yeah 00:26:36 (danish may contain errors) 00:27:20 på irc.dal.net.) 00:27:23 most of those triplets are so close, why bother? 00:27:40 precisely! sometimes they don't. 00:27:40 They're all just English with a funny accent, why bother? 00:27:55 it seems like reading NO if you know SE should be no harder than reading EN youtube comments if you know non-idiot EN 00:27:59 kmc: mostly because they are so close ;) 00:28:19 they should just take the coolest looking word from each triplet 00:28:31 are there any amusing false cognates between these languages? 00:28:34 kmc: You're just not watching the right videos. 00:28:49 Sometimes it seems they bother with och/og but not when it comes to long words. 00:29:39 kmc: no:pule = en:fuck, sv:pula = en: er, does anyone know a word for that... 00:29:53 "Dit hår er skadet og slidt/slitt/slitet", starts this "DK/N/S" shampoo bottle. 00:30:20 fizzie: "Dit" is wrong for norwegian :P 00:30:31 "og" is wrong for swedish. 00:30:51 "er" also wrong for swedish, i think 00:30:55 "Det har mistet/förlorat sit naturlige cement, som giver/ger håret styrke og smidighed." 00:31:04 Yes, it's all kind of lazy. 00:31:40 "Hårets overflade/yta bliver glat/slät og glansfuld." 00:32:29 they should print one language in red and the other in blue and then everyone in school gets a bit of cellophane of the appropriate color 00:32:41 "Fordel shampooen i fugtigt hår, massér/massera, og skyl ud/skölj ur." 00:32:52 kmc: also NO and DK are closer to read than SE, usually. while DK is far away in pronunciation... 00:33:28 kmc: reading NO is probably easier tahn reading three languages intertwined 00:33:37 than* 00:33:43 interesting 00:33:48 isn't it symptomatic for similar cultures (neighbours devided by some historical reasons for example) that they often look for its own identity by cultivating these small differences? dunno, but these phenomena are found not only on national but almost every level .. 00:34:20 also isn't norwegian actually two languages 00:34:46 hagb4rd: see: serbian, bosnian and croation, which afaiu are even closer than the scandinavian languages 00:34:54 regions, districts,..yes.. even lovers shit 00:34:55 I think there's two written forms but only one spoken? 00:34:57 yea 00:34:59 * FireFly checks 00:35:05 i see 00:35:18 "Serbo-Croatian is the only European language with active digraphia, using both Cyrillic and Latin alphabets. The Bosnian and Serbian varieties use both alphabets while the Croatian variety uses only the Latin alphabet" 00:35:22 yuppppp 00:35:22 kmc: no one bothers with including nynorsk in these multiple translations :P 00:35:41 Nynorsk is the one that's closer to old norse, right? 00:35:58 slightly closer, perhaps. 00:36:16 http://www.e-allmoney.com/coins/eur/img/1bos2YAcnbra00.gif 00:37:12 2 convertible mark coin 00:38:28 Hei og velkomne til det internasjonale knutepunktet for design og distribusjon av esoteriske programmeringsspråk! For meir informasjon, sjå wikien vår: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For den andre sorten esoterisme, prøv #esoteric på irc.dal.net.) 00:38:58 bosna i hercegovina / босна и херцеговина 00:39:34 (you may now play "spot the difference") 00:40:27 -!- Gregor has set topic: Keskustelu käyttäen Itä-Euroopan kieliä. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 00:40:31 (mind you there _could_ be errors, nynorsk isn't my main writing form) 00:41:08 Okay, I couldn't tell it from bokmål I think :p 00:41:20 if it were, i would probably use a bit other words for flavor 00:45:32 @ping 00:45:32 pong 00:46:58 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:47:14 I think there's two written forms but only one spoken? <-- the spoken situation is far more complicated, as dialects are generally _more_ prestigious than a pronunciation normalized to either writing form. afaict, even the television presenters no longer always normalize. 00:47:21 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:47:21 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 00:47:21 -!- sebbu has joined. 00:47:40 at least not fully. 00:47:49 Oh, that sounds tricky 00:47:59 and there's not really an "official" pronunciation, iirc 00:48:50 the nynorsk movement had this slogan "Speak dialect, write nynorsk" of which the norwegian people took only the first part :P 00:50:03 -!- Sgeo|web has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:50:27 -!- Guest59403 has joined. 00:50:44 :t IM.mapWithKey 00:50:46 (IM.Key -> a -> b) -> IM.IntMap a -> IM.IntMap b 00:51:37 that's interesting 00:51:43 some languages take that to an extreme 00:51:54 like chinese and arabic 00:52:06 (if chinese even counts as one language) 00:52:29 arabic doesn't count as one language either, i don't think 00:52:55 -!- Guest59403 has quit (Client Quit). 00:53:12 there is "modern standard arabic", which is probably not the local language anywhere? 00:54:15 kmc: in china there was basically mandarin and.. i forgot the second one 00:54:19 my understanding is that in both cases, there is a mutually intelligible sub-language which people can use but is not the default anywhere 00:54:26 in chinese it's only a written language and not spoken 00:54:26 there's cantonese and wu and a few others 00:54:29 and yeah, there's a word for it 00:54:32 "Shoppers at a furniture store in Toronto, Canada, were shocked to find a monkey dressed in a sheepskin jacket on the loose in the car park." 00:54:39 tht pattern, i mean 00:54:59 dunno if you all saw http://idlewords.com/2011/08/why_arabic_is_terrific.htm 00:55:00 oh, 'diglossia' 00:55:09 which also mentions norwegian, gosh. 00:56:04 oh dear, the arabic on that page no longer renders correctly for me :( 00:57:08 looks like double UTF8 encoding :( :( :( 00:57:37 DOUBLE UTF-8 ALL ACROSS THE SKYYYY 00:57:59 whenever you screw up character encodings, god kills a japanese kitten 00:59:05 `locale 00:59:06 LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="fi_FI 00:59:20 welly welly well 01:00:27 must report bug 01:02:05 kmc: Gregor is killing kittens right now then 01:18:24 LC_MESSAGES=fi_FI.UTF-8 is great. “Esiräätälöidään paketteja” 01:18:30 -!- TodPunk has quit (Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something.). 01:19:01 Too bad some of the people won’t understand just how horrible that translation of “preconfiguring packages” is. 01:19:20 Finnish translations of UIs tend to be abhorrent. 01:19:30 how can it be horrible when it contains five ä's? 01:19:51 what would you say the meaning of that phrase is in english? 01:20:07 it's almost impossible to unify the layout isn't it? 01:20:52 experienced the same problem while trying to create unified reports for 16 languages 01:20:59 “Pretailoring packages” would be the direct translation, but that loses the badness of the phrase in Finnish again. 01:26:10 codepage 1252 strikes again! 01:26:10 i still wonder how finnish could develop in such a uniqe way.. are they any natural borders to the neighbours? oceans? mountains? trolls? 01:27:03 there must be a simpler explanation 01:27:35 echo مكتبة | iconv -f cp1252 01:27:36 must admit i do not know much about the finnish history 01:28:00 it is kind of related to hungarian and estonian right 01:28:06 hungarian is crazier though 01:28:32 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 01:28:36 maybe it's just seeing it next to swedish everywhere, but finnish seems to be closer to its neighbors 01:29:06 really? 01:29:20 have to read more on this 01:29:22 in my unscientific opinion yes 01:30:06 swedish is a germanic language, so not entirely alien to me as an english speaker 01:30:16 and the finnish words on signs seemed to be reasonably close to the swedish words much of the time 01:30:30 whereas in hungary it seemed as though somebody has written total gibberish on everything 01:30:52 I think Hungarian and Finnish have split a very long time ago, there’s nothing recognizable in the other to a novice that knows one of them. OTOH, Estonian sounds very similar to Finnish (although you generally can’t understand the words). 01:32:11 yes, studying the history would be a good point to start i guess 01:32:34 * Gregor wipes the blood from his hands. 01:32:41 Now that I'm done killing kittens, let's fix this shit. 01:32:59 `locale 01:33:00 LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="fi_FI.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="fi_FI 01:33:04 Gregor: YO A REASONABLE LOCALE PLZ 01:33:39 elliott: I chose a locale appropriate to the majority of the channel, what's the issue? 01:33:44 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:34:06 ei issuaa 01:34:11 -!- sebbu has joined. 01:34:28 `date 01:34:30 ti 11.12.2012 01.34.29 +0000 01:35:00 -!- TodPunk has joined. 01:35:32 `date +%c 01:35:33 ti 11. joulukuuta 2012 01.35.33 01:36:55 `ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ elliott 01:36:57 ＥＬＬＩＯＴＴ：　ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ　ＴＯ　ＴＨＥ　ＩＮＴＥＲＮＡＴＩＯＮＡＬ　ＨＵＢ　ＦＯＲ　ＥＳＯＴＥＲＩＣ　ＰＲＯＧＲＡＭＭＩＮＧ　ＬＡＮＧＵＡＧＥ　ＤＥＳＩＧＮ　ＡＮＤ　ＤＥＰＬＯＹＭＥＮＴ！　ＦＯＲ　ＭＯＲＥ　ＩＮＦＯＲＭＡ 01:38:43 `date 01:38:44 Tue Dec 11 01:38:44 UTC 2012 01:38:48 JUST to make you stop complaining. 01:39:21 Gregor: Um... 01:39:25 Gregor: I'm not going to stop complaining 01:39:35 +about that 01:42:07 Gregor: should I optimise UMLBox 01:42:19 Probably? 01:42:24 "If a user accomplishes a root escalation from within a UMLBox jail, they escalate only to the privileges of the user who ran umlbox, not true root." 01:42:32 I like the idea that this would stop someone who *already has a root escalation exploit* 01:42:39 (OK, you could have setuid programs inside the jail) 01:42:47 Yeah, it depends on how the exploit is done. 01:43:01 If they're different versions of Linux, or depend on being able to modify something they can't on the host, or... 01:43:17 There's lots of reasons why an exploit might not work. 01:43:27 Gregor: How fast is the mudem stuff 01:43:44 Slow but irrelevant, HackEgo isn't using it. 01:43:51 -!- SingingBoyo has joined. 01:44:07 oh, it isn't? 01:44:12 No. 01:44:15 why does it exist then 01:44:23 For the luls? 01:44:41 It was a "feature" of plash I felt obligated to replicate. 01:44:46 Never really succeeded though. 01:44:54 -!- nooga has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:45:13 I forget what it's even for 01:45:17 oh, X forwarding? 01:45:21 Yeah. 01:45:26 And TCP forwarding if you'd like. 01:45:47 does it work for X 01:45:57 It did last time I tested it *shrugs* 01:47:26 Gregor: hey couldn't you profile this stuff using the oprofile stuff 01:47:32 -!- ion has set topic: Keskustelu käyttäen Itä-Euroopan kieliä. | Kanavan otsikko mainitsee Hitlerin ilman erityistä syytä. | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 01:48:45 Maybe... 01:48:48 -!- nooga has joined. 01:48:57 I know that google perftools just barfs all over the place :) 01:50:45 well oprofile is fancy and kernel-level 01:50:49 I don't know how it works though 01:50:59 what if you reduced the nice to something less than -n10, would that help at all 01:51:02 I guess it would be sort of bad 01:52:03 It's not like I have other shit running at some other nice level. 01:53:45 mm 01:53:50 `echo hi 01:53:50 1355190830.35 01:53:51 1355190831.01 01:53:51 1355190831.19 01:53:51 hi 01:53:57 hg status is almost instantaneous. 01:54:03 umlbox takes almost a second. 01:54:05 Nice "profiling" 01:54:05 So yeah. 01:54:08 ^^ 01:54:26 I think UMLBox is pretty inherently slow 01:54:44 Gregor: What if you did a trick to keep the same UMLBox running as long as hg status says nothing has changed? 01:54:48 should be semantically equivalent 01:55:12 It's a nice theory, but the whole stack is just SO not configured to do that >_> 01:55:25 Doesn't sound that hard 01:55:29 UMLBox forwards stdin, right? 01:55:41 Oh, heh. 01:56:11 'course then there's an issue of "how much of this output is my output" 01:56:12 So you just need to run while read; do timelimit ...; done 01:56:13 or whatever 01:56:31 Gregor: have it forward an extra fd that you just echo "done" to or such 01:56:34 or wait 01:56:35 I don't get the problem 01:56:49 I send a command, it has no output. How do I know when it's done? 01:57:01 I send a command, it has 30MB of output. How do I know when it's done? 01:57:28 Right, you need to echo "done" to another channel... in fact you can just use stderr, assuming UMLBox forwards that separately 01:57:32 (and 2>&1 the commands themselves) 01:57:39 Echoing to another channel is a terrible idea. 01:57:44 Synchronicity problems. 01:58:04 Gregor: OK: buffer the output inside the loop, once all the output is written, write the length of the output to the additional channel. 01:58:18 The reading code sends the stuff to run, reads a length from the side-channel, reads those bytes. 01:58:30 Hmm 01:58:32 Fair 'nuff 01:58:52 Whenever a write happens, you kill the whole thing and run stuff separately 01:58:54 like normal 01:59:37 (Note that this means that if you run two writers and a reader at once, the reader may experience inconsistent state (because the two overwriters overwrite each other)) 01:59:56 (You'd have to make sure the reader's output isn't sent before rerunning stuff, but that's just basic transactionality anyway) 02:00:04 Sounds easier than rearchitecturing anything at least 02:00:09 s/anything/everything/ 02:00:14 It is rearchitecting X-D 02:00:29 Probably less so than whatever you were thinking of :P 02:00:33 It'd be super-mega-fast, anyway 02:00:40 bug reported 02:00:47 what bug 02:01:54 bad character encoding on http://idlewords.com/2011/08/why_arabic_is_terrific.htm 02:02:20 take UTF-8 and interpret each byte as a character in Windows-1252 and then encode to UTF-8 again and that's what you get 02:02:31 I also think that rerunning commands is probably a waste of time more often than not. I could send the original output eagerly, then resend iff it's different. 02:02:47 Err 02:02:48 kmc: How do you fuck up like that? 02:02:57 That waiting for output from rerunning is a waste of time. 02:03:04 That would be completely awful 02:03:04 Lemme put it differently: I should output before even checking. 02:03:23 pikhq: ¡!¡!¡!¡!¡! 02:03:27 How about go for the 90% speed increase you get from not rerunning UMLBox and forget about an abomination like that :P 02:03:34 ^^ 02:03:53 Maybe I'll write it to not rerun UMLBox if I can get HackEgo working here 02:04:10 elliott: At this point it should be near-trivial to get HackEgo running... 02:04:18 I think that is what you said last time too 02:04:31 Walk me through it :P 02:04:48 Build multibot, install socat, edit runner.sh to your needs, ./runner.sh 02:05:39 You forgot at least one step 02:05:41 pikhq: ¡!¡!¡!¡!¡! THERE ARE BACKLOG IN PLOF CHANNEL GO GO GO ¡!¡!¡!¡!¡! 02:06:05 elliott: What's going wrong? 02:06:07 Is it just me or did glogbot's channel list shrink 02:06:18 elliott: did you finish your "script" 02:06:19 elliott: I assume you already have umlbox? 02:06:22 Gregor: I didn't try, just you forgot "Get UMLBox working" for one 02:06:42 X-D 02:07:11 Getting UMLBox working: Check out, extract Linux to a subdir, if your Linux version is different then the one in Makefile then change it or provide it as a make argument, make and make install. 02:07:15 Gregor: yaru nn sìȳa 'te! tèmo, kotae musùkasii no. 02:07:49 Gregor: You should have some script to automate checking out and compiling everything :P 02:07:52 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 02:08:10 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 02:08:11 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 02:08:12 pikhq: probably by opening it in an editor which is configured to auto-detect encoding but save as utf-8 02:08:16 and which auto detects wrongly 02:08:17 elliott: HackBot isn't really designed to be rerun ;) 02:08:22 i don't really know 02:08:29 i think of this as something that happens on windows ;P 02:08:29 Gregor: "At this point it should be near-trivial to get HackEgo running..." :P 02:08:36 kmc: Implementing auto-detect like that takes some real doing. 02:08:42 kmc: I've seen that post before with its encoding not messed up. 02:08:44 Oh come on, it has THREE dependencies. 02:08:49 shachaf: yes, me too 02:08:54 And all three of them are listed in its description! 02:08:58 Given that the easy way to detect UTF-8 is to check if it's valid UTF-8. 02:09:02 Gregor: Also you forgot the part where I replicate HackEgo's filesystem to have test scripts. 02:09:06 If it's valid, it is UTF-8. 02:09:06 i think he probably made a minor edit and screwed it up accidentally 02:09:10 or moved to a new blog system or something 02:09:13 I guess. 02:09:17 Also a lot of those things are true of Hebrew. 02:09:23 elliott: Do you need it? 02:09:28 elliott: Even "echo hi" should be sufficient. 02:09:35 shachaf: not surprising 02:09:38 Gregor: No, because I need to test behaviour with writes and stuff and the quote system makes that e-z 02:09:46 arabic alphabet is cooler though 02:09:47 sorry 02:09:54 shachaf: Given that the two languages are in the same language family, makes a lot of sense. 02:09:54 If it's valid, it is UTF-8. // Technically, there is some insanely small possibility that this is false. 02:10:04 pikhq: Sure. 02:10:08 Gregor: Yeah, but that's the proper heuristic. 02:10:49 kmc: Sure, but you might as well write Farsi instead. 02:10:58 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 02:10:59 MAYBE I WILL 02:11:07 maybe i'll write english in arabic script 02:11:22 Gregor: And if you somehow find a long string in the wild that's valid UTF-8 *and* not meant to be, I'll buy you a hat or something. :P 02:11:34 There's always https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiao'erjing 02:12:04 Well, if I can write English in kanji and a self-made script, I suppose you can do English in Arabic. 02:12:22 Gregor: I like this irritating fucking "click the repo URL to copy it" thing that DOESN'T LET ME MIDDLE-CLICK-PASTE THE RESULT 02:12:27 everything is terrible 02:12:40 elliott: Dahell? 02:12:50 On https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/overview 02:13:07 there are some places in western china where you can see latin, arabic, cyrillic, han, and mongolian characters on signs 02:13:11 also some places in new york city 02:13:13 That's... not an auto-copy thing? 02:13:16 It's just a text box? 02:13:25 It is. 02:13:31 Try clicking it (make sure you have JS on I guess) 02:13:37 I have JS on. 02:13:41 Of course I have JS on X-D 02:13:46 Shrug 02:13:50 It is definitely something weird 02:14:00 So's your face *shrugs* 02:15:22 -!- glogbackup has joined. 02:15:48 glogbackup: YOU'RE DRUNK, GO HOME 02:16:04 Gregor: Where do I put multibot 02:16:13 Right in the repo. 02:16:18 Next to runner.sh 02:16:22 `ls /ubda 02:16:23 ls: cannot access /ubda: No such file or directory 02:16:41 Gregor: Do I wipe its multibot_cmds? 02:16:43 kmc: I heard a rumor you were a fan of acid-state. 02:16:45 Or keep them? 02:16:57 elliott: Just take the binary. 02:17:29 I like how there's no Makefile. 02:17:38 P.S. by like I mean hate 02:17:42 Makefiles are for pussies. 02:17:49 gcc -O3 -levent multibot.c -o multibot 02:18:01 -!- glogbackup has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:18:09 lol 02:19:10 Does it really need libevent and yet still uses socat for networking 02:19:23 I can't possibly articulate how much this code disgusts me 02:19:24 libevent... is not a networking library? 02:19:33 I never said it was 02:19:54 It uses socat to avoid all the buildup/teardown bullshit of BSD sockets, so it's just stdin/stdout. Otherwise it's equivalent. 02:20:45 -!- monqy has joined. 02:20:54 Nice, I have a newer kernel than umlbox 02:21:19 Ugh 02:21:23 Does this mean I have to download my own 02:24:39 Gregor: help 02:25:02 Uhh, it has to build a UML kernel, yes... 02:25:08 Well, or if your distro has one, you can use that. 02:25:19 `quote 02:25:21 543) in the past few minutes I tried remembering what my dream last night was, but instead remembered I didn't sleep 02:25:28 `quote 02:25:29 `quote 02:25:29 `quote 02:25:29 `quote 02:25:30 288) elliott, it was an artful robbery! wait, murder 02:25:30 70) My mascot is a tree of broccoli. 02:25:31 85) it can be a good fursuit, but the good thing is that nobody can complain a fox doesn't have the right skin tone 02:25:31