< 1356566403 900515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: belgians dont die when they get soggy < 1356566435 336629 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'm not belgian < 1356566464 544984 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless those belgians are also witches < 1356566478 732746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in belgium it rains french fries and golden ale < 1356566495 675961 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it ever established if Glinda can be dissolved in water? Or is it only *wicked* witches?) < 1356566500 714816 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soggy french fries? sogged with ale, i mean < 1356566522 486129 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :" b r b " < 1356566527 866954 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1356566567 18324 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Cracked.com reckons Glinda is basically a villain anyway: http://www.cracked.com/article_18881_5-reasons-greatest-movie-villain-ever-good-witch.html < 1356566828 290852 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356567011 45349 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356567133 57179 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...they make a pretty good case, actually... < 1356567161 946451 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that sort of thing is gone over in the books. < 1356567540 87473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made this chess variant: http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSkingfridayxiii < 1356567767 744516 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1356567806 920946 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356567944 905883 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I understand rule #11 < 1356567997 973235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it is clear. What part of #11 did you not understand? < 1356568126 945758 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I can see what it does, I just don't know why < 1356568232 118689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a mistake; I fixed it. < 1356568248 618593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote one letter wrong and missed one word. Now it is corrected. < 1356568257 546032 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it to avoid some consequence of doing two such moves? Why not just forbid it and then you don't need a coinflip < 1356568258 203059 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now is rule #11 understandable better? < 1356568304 118151 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the text, I just don't know the rationale :-P < 1356568391 260055 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn I just remembered I missed Jupiter's Christmas conjunction through being sick DDDD-: < 1356568421 934050 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :raeg < 1356568435 263203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simply to add a small amount of chance in only a few cases, beings those symmetric move which, if everyone plays, results in too much symmetric position; therefore you don't play same move always < 1356568448 771396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jupiter's Christmas conjunction? < 1356568488 75542 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also the rules don't specify what happens to ownership of a pawn if you convert it to a different colour (I assume it changes owners too?) < 1356568553 600298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: with the moon < 1356568576 76299 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jupiter had a conjunction with the moon on Christmas Day < 1356568605 522035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moon conjunctions aren't particularly rare, anyway. < 1356568622 122525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Yes, it does change owner too < 1356568640 197579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a new one in january. < 1356568682 585112 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1356568684 177277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION somehow follows /r/astronomy < 1356568692 720252 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: still, it was a nice Christmas treat and I wanted to see it < 1356568710 580463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: somehow < 1356568712 869250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"by magic" < 1356568791 889316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i subscribed during a supernova, i think, and somehow haven't unsubscribed although it's mostly a lot of telescope talk and picture sharing. < 1356568908 758131 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356568917 747112 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1356568954 578676 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356569108 786155 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it normal for Diplomacy's rules to give a headache? < 1356569125 389378 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decided to try reading them. Gave up for now < 1356569140 531830 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1356569193 599796 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what confused you? < 1356569197 153832 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we can explain it < 1356569209 782337 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "we" I mean monqy < 1356569234 565413 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's diplomacy < 1356569311 178951 :xDEADCA7!~ared@host176-190-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356569312 880545 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1356569348 805909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of ecliptic longitude the conjunction is 16:17 in my timezone, but, according to what you will actually see, you have to consider such things as where you are, how close it is, size, refraction, and you need both coordinates not only one. < 1356569408 709262 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, board game with almost no elements of chance, where co-operation with opponents is vital. So is backstabbing opponents. < 1356569433 760843 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From TV Tropes < 1356569435 83509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To bring an example of the convoluted nature of negotiations, it is not unusual for, say, France to engage in coordinated standoffs with Italy in order to fake a war with him, in order to satisfy Turkey, who demanded that France attack Italy in order to prevent Italy from attacking Austria while Turkey and Austria invade Russia together; the only reason France cares about what Turkey wants from him is that he and England are attempting to in < 1356569435 267111 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vade Russia's allies in Germany, and the Turkish invasion will distract Russia's attention and prevent him from opening up another flank with England. Meanwhile, unbeknownst to France or Turkey, Italy has already made a deal with England to hold off his attack on Austria until the conquest of Germany is completed, at which point he and England will turn on France. It Makes Sense in Context." < 1356569445 494975 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to actually read what he just pasted < 1356569464 94796 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, that doesn't even mention greece at all < 1356569499 783781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how Greece fits into all of this, though? < 1356569500 624444 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...my brain broke reading that < 1356569516 968616 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah, that looks like a bad place to learn the rules from :-P < 1356569531 430304 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, I was reading one of the manuals < 1356569542 861194 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know the basics vaguely < 1356569553 560836 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this is about a game, not world war i. < 1356569566 982137 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Schism < 1356569591 530182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote [on Diplomacy] man, that doesn't even mention greece at all [...] oh, this is about a game, not world war i. < 1356569598 244768 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :888) [on Diplomacy] man, that doesn't even mention greece at all [...] oh, this is about a game, not world war i. < 1356569660 672183 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was a reasonable mistake :( < 1356569694 114085 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1356569717 796003 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: thanks < 1356569769 596977 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The name was appropriated for the tactic of sneaking a counter onto the board when nobody's looking. It's generally considered legal so long as it's taken off when called on it (however, turns are not replayed if it's been making stuff happen)." < 1356569770 575748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1356569788 894449 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it's like munchkin! < 1356569803 547530 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time nobody noticed someone i was playing with had five different swords equipped < 1356569830 156653 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something Fighter McWarrior would do < 1356569852 78018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only way that I can make sense of the word "munchkin" in what Bike just said is as a min/maxer, but that doesn't quite fit < 1356569873 179573 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1356569890 422713 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the name of a game < 1356569894 614998 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Munchkin" < 1356569905 885828 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1356569909 285782 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is about minmaxing, so i award you two points in consolation. < 1356570356 597499 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356570437 329772 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356570453 269152 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356572630 515954 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356573342 274137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1356576134 864307 :hagb4rd_!~perdito@koln-4d0b65cb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :munchkin..i think i played it oncee, but was too drunken figure out the rules or good strategy that evening. was it that one where cheating is not just allowed but recommended? (as long as you're not caught in the act) < 1356576311 803678 :hagb4rd_!~perdito@koln-4d0b65cb.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange one < 1356576317 587330 :hagb4rd_!~perdito@koln-4d0b65cb.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1356576549 810236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the newest versions of C allow things like: typedef struct { int x; if(0) { 42; } int y; } < 1356576576 589083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1356576597 911117 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Munchkin seems to use a weird variant of Magic's Golden Rule < 1356576616 638575 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that there are particular rules that cards can't overrule unless... they specifically say they do < 1356576918 571137 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1356576953 646466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any C or C++ version or compiler allow things like that? (where any top-level, array, struct, union, and enumeration can contain if blocks, and any array can contain for blocks; both subject to some restrictions such as constant expressions are required, and braces are required) < 1356576956 644350 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356577250 77514 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs that crap, we have templates < 1356577283 923342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think BLISS might have some features a bit like this, maybe, I am not exactly sure < 1356577353 806608 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: munchkin's top rule is actually "whoever shouts about the rule loudest wins". < 1356577381 921136 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Munchkin actually a suitable game for munchkining? < 1356577396 585226 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's, uh, pretty hard to roleplay, if that's what you mean < 1356577402 970596 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played it a couple times in college, it's extremely silly < 1356577414 987741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not very fun if people take it too seriously < 1356577427 642101 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's incredibly hard to take seriously, which is the best part of it XD < 1356577434 448457 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, that's what I mean, it doesn't seem like it lends itself to being taken seriously < 1356577434 949468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The card game is OK, the board game is bad, in my opinion < 1356577443 838331 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yeah, the card game. didn't know there was a board game < 1356577465 903151 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very munchkiny in the sense that it lets you stack up a billion bonuses, play combinations of cards for amusing results, and all that kind of stuff < 1356577470 291120 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some people take it seriously, but then you can laugh at them. < 1356577480 57124 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in a silly way < 1356577504 989517 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to ultra serious laughter? < 1356577561 865655 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides to read about F.A.T.A.L. again < 1356577581 240988 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you fool < 1356577608 411902 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Magic: the Gathering cards you can also do something where combinations are played for various results, including making up puzzles or making up your own cards, or just playing the game normally; I like the puzzles, though. It is lesser in other games such as Pokemon card, although puzzles of that can be made up too. < 1356577904 962019 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b65cb.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1356577935 933784 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean puzzles in a way similar to chess problems? < 1356577941 681506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, like that. < 1356577952 58960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have even made two Pokemon card puzzles. < 1356577961 375766 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for the fun part, the FATAL Games logo is "Where the dice never lie." < 1356577965 290780 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^from the review < 1356577972 208115 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sartin: Yeah, I really like that logo, too. It was nice of the FATALites to point out that when you play games from other companies, your dice may lie to you. Ha, I knew it! All those times I was playing D&D or SenZar, and that d20 would show a 3 or some shit when I knew I rolled a 20. Thanks, FATAL, for showing me the way!" < 1356578092 20362 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42350.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356578461 49184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you made any chess problems? < 1356578479 503384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, puzzle for Pokemon card or Magic: the Gathering card? < 1356578645 43915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another idea is making up some Pokemon card puzzle which may include extra cards that isn't real and is not even necessarily balanced or anything like that, and is only used for the puzzle game; it can be called "Fairy card". < 1356578678 973900 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clefairy card < 1356578739 542920 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i'm sure Clefairy isn't balanced or anything like that, and is never used for serious games < 1356578810 207571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dickachu < 1356578814 836408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: Not what I mean, of course. < 1356578834 771679 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to be funny < 1356578838 447140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done with Magic: the Gathering cards, just numbered some made up cards, no names other than their number specific to this puzzle. < 1356578851 642845 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 4:30am and I'm sick so you should at least pretend that I am < 1356578852 136717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: Yes it is a bit funny, I suppose, too < 1356578926 765367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Pokemon card, though, the made-up card specific to the puzzle could be named by $ and a number, and if applicable, a level. And it is also possible there may be cards $1 [Lv.10] and $1 [Lv.15] to be two different cards, but anything evolving from $1 can be used with it, for example. < 1356578967 502364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The reason I used $ is because the other ASCII punctuation are mostly already used in my Pokemon card puzzles.) < 1356578979 20070 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, you got approximately 700 different pokemon to work with, do you really need dollar symbols? < 1356579025 930053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: It is if you make up your own cards specific to the puzzle. If you use real cards, you would use their actual name instead. < 1356579050 724977 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could make up a card then find a pokemon it looks like < 1356579078 252757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes but then it might conflict with real card having the same name/level. < 1356579111 51270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there like 2147483647 pokémon now anyway < 1356579116 267257 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... but it's possible to have different cards for one pokemon, right? < 1356579127 844266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen: Yes, as long as their levels ar different. < 1356579143 143593 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use ♀ for all pokemon names < 1356579153 993781 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I believe there are a little under 700, but about a hundred of them have around twenty different possible shapes < 1356579178 970175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I want to use ASCII. < 1356579189 967335 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak! < 1356579200 313013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know some card names contain non-ASCII; so I use substitutions in that case) < 1356579201 873271 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be strong! make up your own charset! < 1356579280 73435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I could do that, but I don't want to do that for this purpose, so I want to use ASCII instead. < 1356579371 522353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use UTF-7 < 1356579384 360313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pok+AOk-mon < 1356579388 783182 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what's so bad about a 4d100/2-1 roll? < 1356579453 801145 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess rolling it repeatedly for stats that ultimately don't matter is probably annoying < 1356579591 718832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, I don't want to. < 1356579643 752512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I used Goldilock's method to roll for stats; what do you prefer? < 1356579664 92540 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really ... er, designed an RPG. < 1356579668 629500 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Goldilock's method? < 1356579979 518981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Make up your own numbers 0 to 9 for each of six ability scores. Using these numbers for two separate results: Add 1d8 to each. Convert to a percentage. Lookup in the table: 1->6, 2->8, 3->9, 4->10, 10->11, 14->12, 19->13, 25->14, 30->15, 35->16, 48->17, 65->18, 77->19. Select one column of results. Calculate bonus points by the total subtracting from 72, divide by 3, add 2, minimum of 2. < 1356580007 585831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add bonus points according to your choice, but not above 18, and then apply racial modifiers. < 1356580015 581005 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1356580042 885612 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42350.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1356580356 720630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Did you understand this? < 1356580439 952137 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't look at it closely < 1356580480 552732 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand the "Using these numbers for two separate results" thing < 1356580543 788560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean is that the numbers 0 to 9 that you selected by yourself, are used twice; the process splits at that point. And then with the final results you can pick which one you preferred. < 1356580580 773055 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1356580745 966970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Of course, since both sub-abilities are (say it with me) totally random, we don't really know what happens when your Maximum Speech Rate ends up being lower than your Average Speech Rate, but it's just on this side of "totally possible"." < 1356580836 225100 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1356580878 901124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't possible though. I don't even know if it becomes possible when probabilities are not limited to range 0 to 1. < 1356580910 121782 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying fatal is unrealistic < 1356580937 334341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am talking about probability, not about fatal or about unrealistic. < 1356581231 385759 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1356581235 98025 :kallisti!~eris@h152.47.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356581235 282207 :kallisti!~eris@h152.47.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1356581235 282378 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1356581458 581634 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356581658 411117 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This review actually says something good about FATAL. < 1356581670 954760 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After all this crap, though, I have to admit to one bright point. I liked how some of the sub-abilities provided real life-kinda examples or descriptions for each score. Like Strength listing how much you can lift, or the Vocal Charisma and Math columns I mentioned (okay, those ended up being dumb anyway, but the basic idea wasn't so bad). Examples like these can give solid ideas on how good a score really is, something many RPG systems have < 1356581671 138910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : had trouble with." < 1356581748 719636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a probability distribution called dealing with such thing as 4d6 drop lowest? What is a probability distribution called which is toss a coin until tails? < 1356581769 578138 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the latter a poisson < 1356581829 222180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see < 1356581890 208418 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fish < 1356581899 347376 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we speak English and Finnish in here < 1356581931 688503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ääääääääääääääää < 1356581947 3394 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Good Letter < 1356582015 236785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is similar to Knuth's Poisson algorithm, but it isn't quite. < 1356582026 680691 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"algorithm"? < 1356582032 205813 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish < 1356582041 749721 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :algofishm < 1356582058 156523 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go fish 'em too. < 1356582113 923819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of flips needed to get tails would be a geometric distribution < 1356582130 753216 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1356582176 61653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, it is. < 1356582205 476097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what distribution is 4d6 drop lowest? < 1356582333 321622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What probability distribution would this be? Roll 1d20. If it is 1, then roll again and subtract 19; further 1s (but not 20s) continue rolling. If it is 20, then roll again and add 19; further 20s (but not 1s) continue rolling. < 1356582390 99316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably does not have a name < 1356582397 499079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the Zzo38 Distribution < 1356582414 198452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can easily write its pdf though because it is discrete < 1356582483 867381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it doesn't have a name. < 1356582594 549301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1356582689 665302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it has a name but i do not know what the name (if any) is < 1356582786 240472 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d64lyfe < 1356582852 177698 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photos/32779242@N04/3671923055/ < 1356582988 599766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1356582999 432558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I also don't know < 1356583116 476685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ? < 1356583120 173951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ¿ < 1356583143 964570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, the chart is from FATAL, apparently < 1356583158 721595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is FATAL < 1356583215 536322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A horrifically bad RPG < 1356583310 833450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1356583322 413152 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/14/14567.phtml < 1356583447 849316 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356583468 156037 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can also roll a d10,000,000 in order to find out how many babies a particular woman will have, even though there are only five potential outcomes." < 1356583706 681981 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see a d10e7 < 1356583828 916144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they even *make* dragonball z condoms? < 1356583944 296657 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.globalprotection.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CUSTOM < 1356584003 415437 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You'll be amazed at how well people react to receiving a condom as a promotional item." < 1356584266 581618 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... just fully processed a bit of the creator of FATAL's rebuttal to the review < 1356584275 534278 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The review: "As usual, in case you forgot someone was holding a gun to your head and making you read FATAL. Or that sexuality can be argued to include "Does not desire anal sex from either gender"." < 1356584286 323138 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reply: "It is numerically impossible for an anakim to be asexual. Jason's back to senseless arguments again." < 1356584316 436225 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, wait, no, the reply is less sensible than that snippet made it look < 1356584328 91772 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/FRRpart3 < 1356584403 538034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok, I think... sense can be made out of .. it... kind of? < 1356584417 524315 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?180687-FATAL-A-Bad-Bad-Game-Or-So-People-Say/page16 < 1356584789 68436 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Jason] Sartin: So, basically, FATAL is the date rape RPG. < 1356584789 261640 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Byron Hall: Another faulty conclusion drawn by Darren. Where is dating included?" < 1356584796 581780 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/FATAL < 1356585079 293584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/blogs/latest/entry/gaming-disconnect-15-fatal < 1356585175 54974 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Sgeo aroused yet < 1356585225 724062 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like funny reviews of horrible works < 1356585229 712228 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like MST3k < 1356586775 566819 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356586795 158686 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356586795 344355 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356586934 582559 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1356586980 240978 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356587017 679172 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356587170 389468 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356587518 38914 :buffer!~buffer@unaffiliated/buffer JOIN :#esoteric < 1356587932 965817 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1356587982 399741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can enumerations be forward declaration in C? < 1356588214 517298 :buffer!~buffer@unaffiliated/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO C forbids forward references to "enum" types. GCC allows it as an extension. < 1356588905 551350 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Fiora Taneb update < 1356589712 689064 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1356590010 725700 :buffer!~buffer@unaffiliated/buffer NICK :_buffer < 1356590067 85016 :_buffer!~buffer@unaffiliated/buffer QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1356590990 654272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :made a spiced rye sourdough < 1356592001 373150 :buffer!~buffer@unaffiliated/buffer JOIN :#esoteric < 1356593610 571107 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally a good point to start if you're confused of the relations between this ancient divine comedians < 1356593612 504398 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_the_Greek_gods < 1356593630 777079 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enlightening < 1356593662 367176 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*these < 1356593808 572474 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the children of erebus(darkness) and nyx(night) were aether(heaven) and hemera(day)..interesting < 1356593823 182172 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1356593834 850998 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what portion of modern interpretation of Greek myth was based on fanfic? < 1356594967 239969 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356595584 482882 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to catch your thought: we can say that greeks mythology was a sort of fanfiction, created as tribute for the meanders and wonders of their existance.. < 1356595606 876964 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: thought uncaught < 1356595655 25208 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: well but what if homer wrote and chronicled a bunch of the myths < 1356595670 688752 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then a bunch of other people just shipped zeus/*** because they liked that pairing? < 1356595689 933758 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..and maybe because they were absolutely exicted of the egypt who really spaced things oit < 1356595742 212958 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homer right.. but what do you mean by shipped? < 1356595755 464370 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1356595763 259953 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1356595767 793176 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1356595771 994332 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:) < 1356595785 6476 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Shipping < 1356595817 258668 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1356595821 595529 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1356596200 341157 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho every of this stories (as far as i know them) reflects a part of the substantivness of this world and our lifes < 1356596251 722795 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does better than coca-cola, hawking or marvel.. what do you think? < 1356596340 354801 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1356596550 870154 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woa.. follow the line of the children of night! < 1356596563 520227 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"who among you will run with the hunt"? < 1356596570 116647 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1356596619 551860 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heebiejeebie < 1356596649 138065 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you already had your breakfastß < 1356597476 616038 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 PART :#esoteric < 1356597560 907987 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356597575 925602 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1356598084 323191 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356598097 271559 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356598105 201174 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1356598225 926240 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db424c4.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1356598412 490136 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81eb71.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356598628 321946 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356599152 578150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356599536 258668 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1356600577 642178 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81eb71.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1356601434 202141 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1356601684 920173 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356601703 244023 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-10-5.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356602950 641734 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE FUCK CLOSING A POPUP SHOULD NOT QUIT CHROME < 1356603062 182697 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4c6.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356604598 581857 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356604668 676171 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4c6.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1356604969 411398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356605869 333880 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e144.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356606449 799409 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356606954 883386 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1356607012 653664 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1356607516 841005 :buffer!~buffer@unaffiliated/buffer QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1356607939 412806 :buffer!~buffer@unaffiliated/buffer JOIN :#esoteric < 1356610972 150157 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356611011 243793 :nooodl!~nooodl@37.185.181.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356611015 770733 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1356611030 254345 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356611042 399141 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356611300 940726 :nooodl!~nooodl@37.185.181.83 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1356611377 486360 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356611511 619166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Why do you keep changing your nick? < 1356611536 432424 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO KNOWS < 1356611538 418653 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1356611550 890563 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dodgy wifi < 1356611566 88531 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're getting a new router soon < 1356611616 81715 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1356611772 583575 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1356612178 601411 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356612489 374663 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1356612929 686450 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356613546 922129 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1356613585 437479 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356615785 61690 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356615785 548151 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356615785 733123 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356615833 647655 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356615956 430584 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1356616212 540637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1356616318 234199 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356617009 156558 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 QUIT :Changing host < 1356617009 379059 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1356617883 882730 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1356619000 529466 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356619000 750641 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356619000 750846 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356619131 581286 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-42.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1356619292 318967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stealth http://sprunge.us/JIVX < 1356619292 531399 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 5 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1356619303 923184 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_stealth: 42.7 < 1356619349 636041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1356619355 642160 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not bad < 1356619357 208089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how much further I can force the strategy < 1356619382 79840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least it demonstrates that the slowpoke/space_hotel/ffspg strategy is beatable < 1356619407 933685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially on short tapes < 1356619420 254770 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd conjecture that there's no "undefeatable" strategy < 1356619424 924283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356619428 723171 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda like Pokemon < 1356619431 806601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that one took some thought in calculating how to defeat < 1356619436 870817 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except Sableye doesn't exist < 1356619452 34521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also stealth doesn't beat space_elevator < 1356619551 881284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it has problems against old-fashioned pokes, rather than the new-fashioned sort < 1356619617 161612 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356619658 511109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also stealth versus brachiation on length 30 is hilarious < 1356619668 397219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both manage to lock themselves on the other's clear loop < 1356619960 983019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1356619969 945769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just managed to make it a little stealthier, and apparently that helped < 1356620019 390181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stealth http://sprunge.us/hGGI < 1356620022 714370 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_stealth: 42.6 < 1356620029 177470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1356620042 91701 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must be the "new math". < 1356620087 229216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did help < 1356620097 181362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stealth http://sprunge.us/JIVX < 1356620100 532381 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_stealth: 42.6 < 1356620103 328279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stealth http://sprunge.us/hGGI < 1356620104 855616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1356620106 879903 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_stealth: 42.6 < 1356620116 404583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just it must have done particularly well against the program it knocked off the scoreboard < 1356620384 533569 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356620390 262582 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1356620431 508606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stealth http://sprunge.us/QMiA < 1356620433 284115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnotherTest < 1356620434 766115 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_stealth: 42.5 < 1356620439 718593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1356620444 539622 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1356620456 345532 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356620504 539733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer this version, though, because it does better against the programs it's meant to do well against < 1356620789 996485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stealth http://sprunge.us/jRNX < 1356620793 394005 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_stealth: 43.3 < 1356620818 467052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1356621108 232623 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. what's this < 1356621238 420830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck joust < 1356621245 318716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust < 1356621251 204913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies < 1356621256 683471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best esolang sport in existence < 1356621262 766010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably because there aren't many esolang sports in existence) < 1356621308 236674 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the only reason to ever learn brainfuck < 1356621354 816501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to submit programs to egobot in the channel; the way the hill is designed is that if you submit a bad program, it'll fall off quickly < 1356621358 186994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't really screw things up < 1356621367 315777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you submit a good program, it stays much longer for other people to compete against < 1356621415 131223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone seen werecat lately? < 1356621491 372816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1356621499 527026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was pretty good at BF Joust, though < 1356621510 451170 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how to even begin writing a program for this < 1356621515 592286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not as good as him or quintopia, I think, although I'm more prolific) < 1356621519 51229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: that's what the strategies page is for < 1356621530 742521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally none of us had any idea < 1356621539 709283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people came up with strategies, and then we documented them < 1356621582 837589 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My most successful strategy was to change one character in somebody else's < 1356621590 138274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: which program was that? < 1356621599 843356 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm awful at BF Joust < 1356621635 610488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: a cookie-cutter first program is to set some decoys then use a standard clear loop < 1356621659 393657 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm amazed my programs are still on the list < 1356621693 387162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust this_sort_of_thing_is_done_so_often_it_doesnt_do_so_well_nowadays >>>>(+)*20(<(+)*90)*4(>)*8(>[(+)*20[-]])*21 < 1356621696 765917 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_this_sort_of_thing_is_done_so_often_it_doesnt_do_so_well_nowadays: 23.2 < 1356621732 398090 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does get some wins < 1356621735 529424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't do very well < 1356621756 409333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and olsner, your programs aren't very high on the list < 1356621761 91150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're falling gradually < 1356621805 431157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia I made a program based on what we discussed, and a few other concepts too; see ais523_stealth < 1356621805 616410 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1356621874 218544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stealth is fourth on points, incidentally, although eighth on score < 1356621945 179919 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356621969 266669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, triplock2 has finally fallen off the hill < 1356621983 69598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the hill has adapted such that triplocking is no longer a viable strategy < 1356621983 479815 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust thingy (+>)*8(>[-]+)*21 < 1356621983 982732 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81e144.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1356621986 373690 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nooodl_thingy: 18.4 < 1356621988 538472 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356621991 857079 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm < 1356622006 101140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: you got some wins: http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot/breakdown.txt < 1356622025 123830 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1356622065 191715 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the metastrategy is just, look at what the current best strategies do and design something that beats all of them somehow < 1356622069 842082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356622080 249214 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to watch http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/egojsout/ for my thing < 1356622085 22853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the metastrategy sort-of converged, recently < 1356622102 478764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all the best programs working the same way < 1356622116 80319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia and I tried to work out how to pick on that strategy, but it's pretty hard < 1356622219 892400 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1356622292 656671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1356622538 338162 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356623123 534737 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356623243 208336 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1356623397 560019 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356623696 13913 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1356623779 739741 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356623847 801157 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an ugly boring day < 1356623868 189902 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good it's over soon < 1356623896 790526 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :night turns grey into dark..which comforts me much better < 1356623931 222041 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356623935 712889 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :allo < 1356623951 944289 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there really a compiler from mariolang? < 1356623960 889837 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome stupidnoob < 1356623965 933163 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidnoob: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1356623980 774665 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidnoob yup < 1356623991 599885 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1356623997 197224 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any place to download it? < 1356624088 434767 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just made me laugh hillariously < 1356624088 623102 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-42.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1356624140 244180 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what? compiler? < 1356624184 334059 :ARandomOWL!~arandomow@host-2-99-158-143.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356624203 28126 :ARandomOWL!~arandomow@host-2-99-158-143.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHAI < 1356624242 930853 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo owl < 1356624278 93271 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356624297 435603 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/MarioLANG loking at that, is there atually a program to compile it? < 1356624365 12384 :ARandomOWL!~arandomow@host-2-99-158-143.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, why not write your own ;) < 1356624373 579212 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-42.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1356624381 139478 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1356624583 495895 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356624592 286360 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spec is way too ambiguous to implement... < 1356624894 577488 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1356624903 348428 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356624959 408015 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Only if you care about following specs < 1356626431 681028 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1356626434 544704 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356626501 169626 :stupidnoob!502ab4e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.42.180.229 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1356627523 988256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1356627651 930630 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-41-54.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356627774 288519 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk_XaJ7gE4Q ..baby don't hurt me, no more <3 < 1356627789 310143 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sparkle < 1356627814 533459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356627857 142836 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hope there is no politcal background on that one) < 1356627947 172926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of tree wave < 1356628170 667424 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1356628176 106446 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1356628198 724508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://vimeo.com/1109226 < 1356628202 667490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: huh < 1356628203 527485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel for polyphonic oompah music and coinductive prepromorphisms | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1356628234 392759 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I understand this thing correctly, Godel's statement is not necessarily true in a consistent system. < 1356628260 153407 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to be sufficiently powerful < 1356628268 643599 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this one ist very minimalistic < 1356628270 358133 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, consider first-order Peano arithmetic, and the Godel statement "the Godel statement of Peano arithmetic cannot be proved". < 1356628287 991704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presbyter arithmetic or whatchamacallit < 1356628297 315020 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theme envelops < 1356628316 833148 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are models of Peano arithmetic in which that statement is false. < 1356628346 475641 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it elliott < 1356628391 299386 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a radiohead song? < 1356628499 170760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be powerful enough to encode the existence of proofs in its own system, at least. and presumably to verify constructive proofs that it _isn't_ consistent. < 1356628559 355992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *presburger < 1356628588 989022 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but apparently that's not sufficient. < 1356628597 600806 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, there are models of Peano arithmetic in which the Godel statement is false. < 1356628657 631175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first answer here is quite relevant http://mathoverflow.net/questions/9864/presburger-arithmetic < 1356628687 159449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just the part about presburger < 1356628719 450625 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on peano: "Paris and Harrington (1977) gave the first "natural" example of a statement which is true for the integers but unprovable in Peano arithmetic (Spencer 1983)." < 1356629567 294810 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356629859 761294 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356629860 94657 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356629860 369762 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356629932 904604 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356630259 152540 :buffer!~buffer@unaffiliated/buffer QUIT :Changing host < 1356630259 376226 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer JOIN :#esoteric < 1356630717 927235 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356630936 579668 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356630955 951236 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1356631040 981973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1356631082 304196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.mit.edu/cp/www/presslogs/Dec-17-2012.pdf Incident Type: WEAPONS VIOLATION < 1356631085 587158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comments: STUDENT IN GYM AREA DRESSED AS NINJA. STUDENT COOPERATIVE SAID DRESSED FOR EXAM. < 1356631135 944092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, a ninja exam? < 1356631168 192973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is NO REPORTS OF RESIDENTIAL FIRES related to the item? < 1356631358 917527 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1356631877 654264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://events.ccc.de/congress/2012/Fahrplan/events/5265.en.html damn i want to see this talk < 1356631900 934856 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-165-162.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1356632046 291024 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks a bit boring. < 1356632083 475775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1356632147 852264 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356632223 30190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome ARandomOWL < 1356632225 317735 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARandomOWL: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1356632228 878711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders who buffer is < 1356632240 859740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome buffer < 1356632242 360605 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :buffer: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1356632363 728186 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hasn't the page fault exception handler been used and abused on x86, made public, advertised ruthlessly to papers and color-schemed magazines for years? < 1356632394 700348 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not impressed with this year's ccc assortment of talks < 1356632411 406036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not saying it's novel research just that it probably contains stuff i don't know < 1356632420 265545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like it covers a lot more than the page fault exception handler < 1356632455 344356 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this talk we will give a (nearly) complete historic overview of creative uses of memory-related traps and faults by hardening patches such as OpenWall, PaX, and other less known but interesting projects, as well as by rootkit designs such as ShadowWalker, and by unorthodox reverse engineering and debugging systems such as OllyBone. We will then show some novel tricks with the x86 systems to both conceal and protect memory contents. < 1356632488 403423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they mention segmentation and task switch segment as well as interactions with TLB and other caching systems in the presence of multiprocessing < 1356632493 197683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, sounds cool < 1356632497 555212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't like it then that's fine < 1356632504 776654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://esolangs.org/wiki/MarioLANG loking at that, is there atually a program to compile it? <-- as someone else implied, the spec is so ambiguous any implementor would have to make up a large part of how it works < 1356632513 785462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i care more about learning than about having the biggest hacker dong in the room < 1356632525 804807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the original language author is nowhere to be seen these days, afaik < 1356632573 404372 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356632742 74323 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1356632866 162506 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1356632905 195399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: On the other hand, version 2.0 has jetpacks. (Allegedly.) < 1356633034 632612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1356634385 935939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not surprising, but amusing: "Lastly, we built on last year's presentation by discussing the feasibility of exploiting Cisco phones from compromised HP printers and vice versa." < 1356634452 272652 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1356634473 998914 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-42.elisa.ee QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356634515 583448 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-42.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1356634538 49982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have developed a worm that takes over all the Cisco phones in an organization and then covertly exfiltrates microphone recordings < 1356634573 336594 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1356634606 777004 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dudes < 1356634608 519424 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356634799 385218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dudes and dudette < 1356634878 868733 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356634921 495230 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-42.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1356634942 784842 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356634967 809514 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356634968 194906 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356634968 379501 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356635257 78175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't dudettes also dudes? < 1356635279 857023 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the definition < 1356635333 72194 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the context < 1356635342 640754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are études dudes? < 1356635350 127537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sháchaf < 1356635352 796978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how goes? < 1356635397 209992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I woke up at midnight or so today. < 1356635401 759351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fun < 1356635415 265531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if I survive it. < 1356635471 285995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should hope so < 1356635906 693092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356635940 815787 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you will not survive < 1356635947 692442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tholsner < 1356635953 644277 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepare for 2013/5/19 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events#Future_predictions < 1356635978 971395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ronald Weinland's revised prediction of Jesus Christ's return following his failed 2011 and 2012 predictions." < 1356635981 998406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds credible < 1356636063 960278 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming the apocalypse does happen this time, he's been corrct one out of three times... you could do worse < 1356636205 490709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Earth would be destroyed by an asteroid, Nibiru, or some other interplanetary object; an alien invasion; or a supernova. Scientists from NASA, along with expert archeologists, stated that none of those events were possible." < 1356636222 53216 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356636238 620670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to overstate the case < 1356636250 915744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think NASA can definitively rule out an alien invasion on any particular future date < 1356636296 923597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think. < 1356636297 844677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or past date. < 1356636311 947662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1356636321 788517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a supernova is pretty ruled out though, iirc < 1356636322 197062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they may already be among us < 1356636356 457941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He later stated that the end of the world had indeed begun on May 27, 2012, but would take "one year to become fulfilled". Weinland asserts that Christ will now return on Pentecost of 2013, which will fall on May 19, 2013." < 1356636380 301534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alien beings living in some remote northern land, speaking a strange alien language and developing esoteric programming < 1356636426 114902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I remember http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29601/29601-h/29601-h.htm < 1356636434 73694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, i guess it depends on whether you include "we fundamentally misunderstand the laws of physics" in the scope of "possibility" or consider it to be some meta-theoretic thing < 1356636509 129383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe aliens would detonate some kind of device inside the sun to make it go supernova prematurely < 1356636512 187629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010 style < 1356636610 815724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: :@ < 1356636621 440870 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1356636621 896422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/prematurely/at all/, the sun is generally believed too small to become one < 1356636626 218015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1356636646 232053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's like :0 but with @ instead of 0 < 1356636654 482262 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1356636657 232724 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they could make it a whatever-it-would-be instead? < 1356636672 547686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can build a supernova device, that couldn't be too tricky < 1356636673 493672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a red giant < 1356636682 774522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then a white dwarf < 1356636687 971180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is something I've been wondering: when you're doing, say, Android development, and run a thing in the emulator, and want to perform a "pinch" gesture, what do you do? Install Multi-Pointer X, plug in a second mouse and do a two-handed pinch? < 1356636712 353144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vulcan android pinch < 1356636738 612976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(star trek had some blowing up stars, i recall) < 1356636773 116544 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there's some thingy where you connect an android device to provide all touch input < 1356636793 703888 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you could just test on that device instead of in the emulator < 1356636807 880080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "Develop on Virtual Devices -- Advanced hardware emulation, including camera, sensors, multitouch, telephony" -- I suppose it's part of that. < 1356636837 940805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to turn the sun quickly into a red giant, it would seem you would have to get its hydrogen to fuse superfast, which would seem like it would blow it up anyhow. < 1356637002 77153 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that sounds like it might just be describing the emulator < 1356637036 14953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes, but if it "emulates multitouch", I suppose it must have some way of performing it. < 1356637120 484742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The emulator supports multi-touch input, as an experimental feature in r17, using a tethered Android device running the SdkControllerMultitouch appplication." < 1356637129 66819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, apparently that's the only thing they support. < 1356637143 639223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for MPX. < 1356637252 613169 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the emulator uses SDL, that might help you adjust your expectations < 1356637324 858015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw something about doing hardware graphics acceleration. Though I suppose that doesn't exactly preclude SDL; there's OpenGL support in there. < 1356637867 435799 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://29c3.fem-net.de - http live streaming is up. < 1356638191 957913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356638991 218686 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356639362 817972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the FHS-correct location for a debootstrapped chroot < 1356639367 964423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere in /var? < 1356639437 116950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not sure, /home seems to make the most sense < 1356639451 998912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /home/foo/home/foo looks a bit silly < 1356639496 379114 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen /srv used for that in e.g. examples, but no idea if that agrees with the FHS < 1356639574 586806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/srv contains site-specific data which is served by this system. -- The methodology used to name subdirectories of /srv is unspecified as there is currently no consensus on how this should be done. One method for structuring data under /srv is by protocol, eg. ftp, rsync, www, and cvs. On large systems it can be useful to structure /srv by administrative context, such as /srv/physics/www, ... < 1356639580 593282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... /srv/compsci/cvs, etc. This setup will differ from host to host." < 1356639604 313135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen /home structured by administrative context, on very large systems < 1356639642 116427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has /srv/esolangs.org/www < 1356639661 87510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My home directory is /u/22/htkallas/unix on the university systems. < 1356639691 168444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/u has the subdirectories 01 .. 99, and there's some kind of a scheme to divide accounts into them. < 1356639735 462409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All 99 are separate NFS mounts.) < 1356639823 859542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very strange nowadays when it's full of Kerberos and Microsoft Active Directory. < 1356639853 397678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gid is 70000(Domain Users), for example. < 1356639902 540474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's some kind of a thing where the regular Unix permissions sometimes show very misleading things, confusing some programs. < 1356640303 899471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have had that emulator running at 100% (single-core) CPU use for maybe twenty minutes now, trying to power off. I'm wondering if it's still actually doing anything or not; certainly it's still animating the twirly bit. < 1356640356 75245 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you get the x86 and virtualization thing going? < 1356640372 555326 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :without that it's quite slow < 1356640423 493045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which emulator < 1356640456 601838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I just started it out of curiosity, so no. < 1356640466 176002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The dandruff emulator. < 1356640471 878366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, wait... I think it was something else. < 1356640474 862553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android, right. < 1356640516 549134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It was an ARM AVD, so it's not a surprise it's slow. < 1356640531 290362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Still, it's been shutting down far longer than it took to start up (maybe 5 minutes?). < 1356640570 222164 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're bored, just kill it? < 1356640639 610686 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe it will get CORRPUTED. < 1356640645 201013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I could just delete it... < 1356640649 178042 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356640761 744574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's no x86 "System Image" for Android 4.2 in my SDK Manager. :/ < 1356640789 542772 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1356640941 312235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be at least one x86 image... dunno how they decide which version they provide it for though < 1356641133 573933 :AnotherTest1!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1356641433 348445 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Check if it's actually accessing any data < 1356641521 72401 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1356641707 628203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I killeded it already. :/ < 1356641751 826806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The SDK Manager only shows "ARM EABI v7a System Image" and "MIPS System Image" for 4.2; there's ARM + x86 + MIPS for e.g. 4.1.2 and 4.0.3, though. < 1356641776 328764 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need 4.2 I guess you're out of luck < 1356642488 532059 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I "need" anything. < 1356642533 554757 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356642769 35555 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worms thread on /r/gaming ! < 1356642772 390822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheee! < 1356642803 970405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worms! Oh my god worms! < 1356642896 863525 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/15j2mk/the_most_unbalanced_ai_i_have_ever_fought/ < 1356643178 7453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1356645272 965635 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356645334 654336 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.136.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356645750 714697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching the cisco phone hacking talk < 1356645751 706764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theora.29c3.fem-net.de:8001/room1_video.ogg < 1356645817 618677 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356645817 910425 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356645818 93320 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356645883 804729 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356645901 447163 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356645901 630794 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356645926 396971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now i'm watching a black screen < 1356645937 772322 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds boring < 1356645961 460386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i've seen better < 1356645990 173479 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356646019 758502 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356646073 408982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in the future nothing works < 1356646093 579159 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.136.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're in the future? < 1356646110 614688 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1356646117 261967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :black screens are the new black < 1356646124 269437 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For another 3 days, yeah < 1356646131 613174 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then we go back to some lame past-y year < 1356646135 92452 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.136.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll inform Milan. < 1356646151 940401 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, watch Spaceballs if you haven't seen it < 1356646152 479001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, then we'll be in the post-future, duh < 1356646212 907761 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356646234 743431 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356646235 229763 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356646235 413192 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356646268 391925 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.136.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I have but not for a while < 1356646608 878789 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.136.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION combs the desert < 1356646653 462636 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1356646839 166415 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.136.181 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356646876 251503 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356646906 539006 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356647391 324925 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356647563 978350 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Client Quit < 1356647704 675286 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tired of people using BF-conversion as a TC proof as well. What about a nice juicy Turing machine?! < 1356647746 368095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyclic tag machines are the new black < 1356647928 795743 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of my langauges, two reduce to P'' (brainfuck), one to Lambda Calculus, one to SKI calculus, one to a Turing machine, one to Underload and hence to Minsky machines, and the rest probably aren't TC < 1356647940 270428 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356647951 541762 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a nice range < 1356647958 689565 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356647958 871954 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356647960 207153 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'd like one to reduce to Wang Tiles < 1356647983 6146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Move log); 19:06 . . Star651 (Talk | contribs | block) moved page From INTERCAL to Ellipsis: The Esoteric Programming Story to From INTERCAL to LOLCODE: The Esoteric Programming Story ‎(Ellipsis is too BFlipse ) < 1356647992 281352 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1356648004 156117 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehheheheehehheh < 1356648012 605829 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1356648066 17684 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iif I make a cool esolang can i be in the documentary ._. < 1356648067 743478 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im excited for more talk page action < 1356648070 960845 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiii < 1356648072 491080 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356648083 755716 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an exciting esolang like: ellipses or lolcode < 1356648154 749470 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356648165 978918 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately the only really recent esolang I can think of that's actually interesting, I created < 1356648187 475110 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it lolcode? < 1356648197 289256 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not create that < 1356648198 939234 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not one ais or cpressey created < 1356648207 966504 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My worst esolang is the mysterious Ook!++ < 1356648212 970040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which only I have seen < 1356648214 926198 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's awful < 1356648216 721737 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already horrified. < 1356648218 764371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been interesting languages in 2012 < 1356648230 427587 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Fueue is almost interesting < 1356648230 610922 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :international transport? < 1356648232 405101 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: give us a for example < 1356648277 567673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:NewPages < 1356648293 722555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 and cpressey have made several languages this year < 1356648346 731230 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356648364 558686 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356648364 741502 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356648550 66405 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356648663 440308 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Truth machines happen this year? < 1356648742 650904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356648832 896876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Fueue almost certainly can do all of Underload other than S, it's just that i left out ~ * and a because they seemed like they would be comparably painful. adding just ~ would give a path via turing machines instead of minsky. < 1356648837 56263 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im curious as to what language this star guy knows of < 1356648870 653677 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what's on the wiki" I reckon < 1356648872 544144 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does being obscure make something "underground"? < 1356648883 717042 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I guess I've seen underground used in that context before < 1356648886 342815 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a bit weird to me < 1356648908 406178 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Request: actually underground esolang < 1356648932 450620 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang of the mole people < 1356648966 745361 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: well it's interesting how he picks ellipsis and lolcode, and makes the languages he does < 1356648980 437570 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: almost as if he doesn't know what makes a language interesting : ) < 1356649070 601705 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think a bully automaton like RUBE but in a minecraft-like cavern? < 1356649085 27002 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuugh redstone crap < 1356649091 572865 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: apply the "education tool" :-U < 1356649100 298070 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey I like redstone :-( < 1356649124 568601 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are crap < 1356649134 527726 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am not >:-( < 1356649142 564837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1356649150 52243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i think Snack is pretty underground. we certainly want to keep it buried. < 1356649173 561568 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a reduction of "greyknight is crap" to the existence of creative sets right here bro < 1356649181 152412 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone written an esme program????that's what i thought < 1356649190 411395 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm telling mum! < 1356649211 956638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: the spec is a little, er < 1356649258 313396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: whats wrong with redstone < 1356649267 946550 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :red sucks, as a color < 1356649279 123143 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does stone suck too < 1356649295 305565 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stone is ok < 1356649309 826637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: those two languages have one thing in common, of course. < 1356649310 50189 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution: texture packs < 1356649310 50392 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1356649311 902129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What stones do you like, then? < 1356649337 567999 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :black ones. < 1356649382 451039 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pelts Bike with razor-sharp obsidian chunks < 1356649423 128712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: also the technical term is lart hth < 1356649439 536514 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: ah, conchoidal fracturing stones are nice < 1356649473 566344 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION zaps oerjan with a cattle prod -----E** < 1356649488 180288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits GreyKnight with the saucepan ===\__/ < 1356649497 293109 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the saucepan??? < 1356649507 56685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the saucepan < 1356649537 303082 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tickles oerjan with a feather-duster -----<<= < 1356649550 479015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ACHOO* < 1356649566 695579 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do feathers typically need to be dusted? < 1356649567 129457 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fairy nuff < 1356649575 114174 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: The One Saucepan, it corrupts the minds of men and also cooks your beans < 1356649585 859116 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it cook other things too < 1356649606 131121 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's deeper than a pan right? < 1356649611 732544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to cows exist < 1356649621 10095 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and heavier < 1356649628 373187 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 on damge < 1356649648 496134 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes but that makes it more likely to corrupt you. I would stick with beans. < 1356649655 800963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Deep Pan < 1356649706 566448 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how to exist cows? < 1356649707 63652 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what d debugger is there then? :o)) < 1356649719 902957 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sounds like a chippy in Innsmouth < 1356649740 726269 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pan&nox < 1356649808 150617 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_(mythology) < 1356649989 915645 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1356650045 610035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1356650046 291225 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1356650057 845570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you know about chippies < 1356650059 232148 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ' they's more abaout him as i listened to the noises heard by legrasse's men as they ploughed on through the early afternoon, and elwood who had meanwhile seen the papers and of their fear of the unknown. < 1356650071 805465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you been to that greasy spoon, The Deep Spoon? < 1356650072 637475 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thus the great race sped across the room to a huge mahogany chest. he selected one, automatically. throw a stick, and the < 1356650162 780417 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can I get a sausage supper please < 1356650163 781006 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: you will probably call this raving at first, yet soon increasing to a deafening, maddening intensity. < 1356650215 782534 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you will probably call this raving at first, and then later you'll call it really annoying and loud raving" < 1356650221 330953 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1356650230 639745 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like my neighbours -_- < 1356650258 617512 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie failed at splitting the text fragments < 1356650297 928148 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way I finished my Fueue interpreter < 1356650338 628262 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you save the code? < 1356650403 403370 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commit! < 1356650656 800311 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :let remNth n = (a <- getLine) >> print $ map snd $ filter (\(x,y) -> x `mod` n == 0) $ zip [0..] a Why is it complaining and failing on the <- < 1356650740 13338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's not valid syntax < 1356650746 350696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to use do notation or (>>) or (>>=) < 1356650767 935708 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did use >> < 1356650779 437393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But <- is not a expression. < 1356650796 588594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You use <- for a do-notation < 1356650805 305675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you didn't really use anything since your code doesn't make sense :P < 1356650811 936415 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would I use here then? < 1356650820 728560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's put it another way: why are you writing "(a <- getLine) >>"? < 1356650842 446955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use getLine >>= print . map snd . filter (\(x,y) -> x `mod` n == 0) . zip [0..] maybe. < 1356650843 682079 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I thought do notation and >> were equivalent < 1356650859 104954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can use >>= \a -> < 1356650870 807278 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a < 1356650871 463069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do-notation with do { a <- getLine; ... < 1356650873 336675 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356650882 243547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are equivalent but that doesn't mean you can mix up the syntax however you like < 1356650888 234791 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356650907 468214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :within do { ... } you have a sequence of statements; each statement is either an expression or (variable <- expression) < 1356650922 762876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or let ... = ...) < 1356650925 144701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: or other things which I am restraining myself from listing for the sake of pedagogy < 1356650938 911276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to control my inner pedant < 1356650943 470964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(variable <- expression) is not an expression by itself; it is a statement, and statements only make sense syntactically inside a 'do' block < 1356650957 16686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you don't put <- then it is still the expression but with no variable binding. < 1356650959 503346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway do notation is more powerful than just (>>), you can rewrite any do block in terms of (>>=) though < 1356650967 783710 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION inserts an 'n' and gives elliott an inner necklace < 1356650968 836751 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: um list comprehensions!!! < 1356650969 387880 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(m >> x is just m >>= \_ -> x) < 1356650976 920753 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do notation works fine < 1356650990 879323 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is let... not an expression < 1356650995 389539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: those are the only 3 syntactic forms of statements in standard haskell < 1356650998 403526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1356650998 735971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let ... in ..." is < 1356651000 228597 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're thinking of let...in... < 1356651011 351426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 'do' supports an alternative form of 'let' < 1356651017 131891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also <$> and join and other operations which can also be used for some purposes. < 1356651027 204724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I typed that before you listed the third kind < 1356651032 59897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do { let x = a; b; ... } === let x = a in do { b; ... } < 1356651033 195263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok < 1356651079 905821 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm addicted to $ ): < 1356651086 630954 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it even when I really should have used . < 1356651098 457251 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capitalism < 1356651105 696791 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoxhaism. < 1356651116 886819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let (€) = flip ($) < 1356651118 927104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: BOO < 1356651119 871398 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1356651130 320000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3 € succ < 1356651130 503386 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1356651134 284585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f u lambdabot < 1356651141 380428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2+2 < 1356651142 989293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1356651151 860221 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it do € in the let but not the eval < 1356651160 48050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, so @let _is_ unicode clean :P < 1356651161 607316 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this insanity. what is this lambdabot < 1356651176 737857 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.) < 1356651178 73141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1356651181 633195 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1356651186 643116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it < 1356651225 412322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: presumably @let doesn't pass through mueval's eval as a string, but is written directly to the L.hs file which > imports implicitly < 1356651231 81052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you misspelled hexham < 1356651232 169355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.) :: Category c => c y z -> c x y -> c x z < 1356651238 757849 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this hexham < 1356651244 715231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i knew < 1356651245 178344 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried the € thing in ghci and I'm getting a type error < 1356651251 607723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so avoids the broken conversion, wherever it is < 1356651252 90898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that was re hoxhaism btw < 1356651262 903783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the infamous hoxha-hexha split < 1356651282 567606 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ? < 1356651285 679882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what error? < 1356651293 288172 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1356651293 526984 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't flip ($) be (|) < 1356651294 924993 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And from what input) < 1356651295 295604 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the flip < 1356651306 765446 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid me < 1356651320 71755 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: that's rotate ($) < 1356651320 254208 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works fine in ghci < 1356651330 436173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: | is syntax so not available < 1356651335 495743 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t rotate < 1356651336 770297 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bits a => a -> Int -> a < 1356651352 635932 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f4ba.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1356651422 457190 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: disgraceful < 1356651435 641145 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about ¦ as a workaround < 1356651455 220424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1356651470 600837 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINE < 1356651481 544204 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 as a workaround (num instance???anyone) < 1356651572 89905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rotate 1 10 < 1356651573 582686 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1024 < 1356651577 697989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rotate 1 (-10) < 1356651579 254354 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1356651591 27704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT MY INFINITE BITS < 1356651594 736290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rotate 1 (-10) :: Int < 1356651596 266575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 18014398509481984 < 1356651601 573435 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rotate monqy 1 < 1356651604 26454 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `monqy' < 1356651629 253000 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define monqy < 1356651651 992519 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356651703 658409 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let monqy = 1 / 0 < 1356651705 213773 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1356651705 396728 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My final code seems to be remNth n = getLine >>= print . map snd . filter (\(x,y) -> x `mod` n /= 0) . zip [1..] < 1356651720 605194 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rotate monqy 1 < 1356651722 287075 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a0' in the constraints: < 1356651722 469914 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.Real.Fractional a0... < 1356651738 92758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it might be nicer to use 'interact' < 1356651779 787769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is GreyKnight the knew shachaf < 1356651805 326492 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am cooler < 1356651818 421379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*new < 1356651818 975821 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh < 1356651820 427256 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right < 1356651824 36395 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356651873 790842 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Except interact won't stop after one line < 1356652039 502762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Some raving of a deafening, maddening intensity, please? < 1356652040 994561 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: whom it is not well to look too long and steadily at the great central plaza swarming with fnord ghouls and night-gaunts prepared for flight, each ghoul selecting a suitable pair of horned steeds to bear him. carter feared for a moment my surroundings seemed confused, like a fnord. < 1356652073 271397 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sometimes confused like a fnord < 1356652075 174931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Yes, that's raving all right. < 1356652076 173094 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: beyond it he saw a very terrible outline of something noxiously thin and horned and fnord and went forgotten out of < 1356652085 21525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sad fate. < 1356652092 867387 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tell me more about the fnord ghouls and night-gaunts < 1356652095 43179 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: one early morning when the tide of battle turned against the toadlike abnormalities on the jagged rock and the extermination of the toadlike horrors fought desperately with the great spears clutched in their powerful and disgusting paws. the time would be easy to know, dobbs has been my sixth sense. now, however, agree as to the vegetable as to the nature of what he knew of suydam's death and transfer at sea, fnord and < 1356652115 71091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let remNth n = takeWhile (not . null) . unfoldr (Just . splitAt (n-1) . drop 1) in remNth 5 "Hello, world!" < 1356652116 878371 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["ello"," wor","d!"] < 1356652126 252047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1356652141 952925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let remNth n = concat . takeWhile (not . null) . unfoldr (Just . splitAt (n-1) . drop 1) in remNth 5 "Hello, world!" < 1356652143 887294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ello word!" < 1356652173 706023 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let us agree as to the vegetable < 1356652188 302272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we can all agree on that. < 1356652235 859812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1356652263 354936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let remNth n = concat . takeWhile (not . null) . unfoldr (Just . second (drop 1) . splitAt (n-1)) in remNth 5 "Hello, world!" < 1356652265 402137 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Hell, wold!" < 1356652271 500391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You don't agree as to the vegetable? < 1356652292 251357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only minerally < 1356652323 945061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What is it which can eternal lie, if it not be dead? < 1356652325 616570 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: stands alone in its class, and marks a distinct epoch in the history of this bleak realm of ice and death is of the highest of the citys carven towers came into sight the glittering minarets of the city helped us to orient ourselves to the scene of unholy worship, so inspector legrasse and his nineteen colleagues plunged on unguided into black arcades of horror that none of them had vanished he left that garden, each ha < 1356652343 908433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think it broke. < 1356652461 418004 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut off? < 1356652489 929476 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1356652490 242162 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1356652527 419417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Try to be a bit more TERSE, a bit more OPTOMIZED. So you won't get cut off. < 1356652528 934916 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aspinwall spoke again. " these look like clever fnord. if they aren't, they may mean that randolph carter now has no hands well adapted to forming human script." melmoth was widely read and eventually dramatized, but its late date in the land citys history. they were < 1356652538 482335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not getting it. < 1356652556 203121 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's clever fnord, over your head fizzie < 1356652557 434641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randolph Carter has no hands. < 1356652584 487280 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356652589 148080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :look cthulhu, no hands! < 1356652589 645395 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need more Lovecraftian esolangs < 1356652615 688943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Does the Great Cthulhu have any hands? < 1356652618 889807 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: immediate results were rather discouraging, though they were mercifully blurred, and showed the painstaking methods of the artist not so much with those outside; for there was in the army, and ghouls and night-gaunts. a large detachment of the horned flyers would first of all of the illuminating phosphorescence. creeping up to it from behind the locked portal, he did not even try to give us the churning, fnord fog, the < 1356652629 229606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh no, I dropped a space.) < 1356652634 100672 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, Cthulhu, no fhtagns! < 1356652668 647724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Hello, world!" & upon (\x -> (x!!10) `seq` "") %~ tail < 1356652670 494522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Hello, word!" < 1356652679 539517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fhtagns today, my shoggoth's gone away < 1356652734 713897 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1356652781 862523 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@82.132.211.73 QUIT :Quit: zzz