< 1356653947 831140 :ARandomOWL!~arandomow@host-2-99-158-143.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356654301 921152 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356654423 382939 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356654511 354260 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356656130 581280 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db41db5.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356657338 26796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1356658616 580330 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db41db5.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1356659910 651041 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356659934 384221 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356659934 568038 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356659934 568170 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356660129 510188 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356660333 372456 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356660522 595806 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356661049 835229 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356661050 292126 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356661050 475468 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356661208 450129 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356662510 938066 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356662589 942496 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356663182 863276 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356665443 117945 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The difficulty in transferring graphical images through the Internet without a resource such as a large Web page or a FTP site, and the fact that most maps already available are in postscript format (when few home users have postscript printers) means these minor rule change variants flourish." < 1356665454 52567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that this article might be a little old < 1356665481 658206 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad we all have postscript printers now. otherwise google maps would be so useless. < 1356665649 777057 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[The article is talking about Diplomacy variant maps] < 1356665803 628826 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not only old, it didn't even make any sense back then < 1356665910 461112 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphical images.. what is that .. 'through the internet' without a resource(?) as a 'large webspace' lol < 1356665944 884505 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how could the format affect this difficulties? < 1356665965 116937 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the idea is that back then not many people had access to web space or FTP space < 1356665981 979801 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :old articles about the internet are fun < 1356666009 339167 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have an old simcity 2000 strategy guide from 1994 talking about how to connect to services like compuserv to download scenarios off of ftp. and getting on usenet to talk with other players < 1356666049 679827 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds valid < 1356666060 889946 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356666063 598701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the Usenet group for Simcity 2000 still used, anyways? If so, then it may work. < 1356666075 970089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cutting edge analysis < 1356666080 546281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you should use internet to download scenarios off of FTP, not Compuserv, by now. < 1356666145 730433 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/menu/ < 1356666154 79076 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NetScape logo is still in use < 1356666176 147162 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetScape.com is owned by AOL < 1356666210 929885 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tripod still exists < 1356666366 652764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and goatse.cx is now a webmail provider < 1356666451 667516 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and john carmack is now building space ships < 1356666481 407635 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which maybe is not surprising at all) < 1356666546 375527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1356666602 811998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the google founders, Ross Perot, and James Cameron are starting an asteroid mining company < 1356666617 390441 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in dead cities, djikstra lies dreaming < 1356666617 834288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ross Perot Jr. i mean < 1356666629 129812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which if you think about it, is basically the setup for a james bond movie < 1356666639 430926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eccentric billionaires develop technology to hurl asteroids at earth < 1356666642 937947 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, and from that I learn that there's an outlook.com < 1356666651 787206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: goatse strikes again < 1356666673 703482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ass that launched a thousand clicks < 1356666698 829481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile jerkcity is still going strong, just as good as it was in 1997 < 1356666702 23562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many webcomics can say that < 1356666709 822169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superosity < 1356666725 665571 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Superosity's from 1999 < 1356666735 514559 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"when Carmack was 14, he broke into a school to help a group of kids steal Apple II computers, but during the attempted break-in one of the kids set off the silent alarm. John was arrested, and sent for psychiatric evaluation (the report mentions 'no empathy for other human beings'). " < 1356666743 956913 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1356666759 802978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a true doom murderhead if there ever was one :') < 1356666763 713135 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great.. i alway adored this guy < 1356666774 122643 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freefall's from 1998 < 1356666794 124197 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freefall is still good < 1356666814 516068 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People question whether Superosity is any good, but Freefall is always awesome < 1356666823 152459 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, keven and kell < 1356666838 923966 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sluggy freelance. of course. < 1356666839 872475 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't read Keven and Kell
< 1356666843 936843 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Sluggy Freelance < 1356666856 894822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither, but they're the Old Ones. < 1356666857 702175 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh woah Keven and Kell started 1995 < 1356666867 311272 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i didn't know PhD dates from '97. < 1356666903 43928 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WebcomicsLongRunners < 1356666935 11438 :kmccchat!~kmccchat@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356666957 886489 :kmccchat!~kmccchat@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356666991 122506 :Anonymous!~Anonymous@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356666996 12325 :Anonymous!~Anonymous@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356667028 14172 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mezzacotta has been running for all of time, and then some. < 1356667051 286425 :kmccchat!~kmccchat@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356667055 523684 :kmccchat!~kmccchat@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356667064 118608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is me trying to join #esoteric from Comic Chat < 1356667097 460029 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's esoteric as shit, kmc < 1356667116 683711 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've played with Comic Chat before < 1356667141 28048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it crashes quite a bit < 1356667141 249836 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please disable the thing where it sends garbage to the channel. Although I haven't seen any garbage, so maybe you did. < 1356667155 685984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was kind of hoping it would send garbage to the channel < 1356667160 186214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't get that far < 1356667168 161196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: please don't disable the bit where it sends garbage < 1356667168 734161 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're here, aren't you? < 1356667171 183866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see the garbage < 1356667179 585814 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I did it, it was on some VM emulating Windows 98 < 1356667290 736608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm trying to use wine < 1356668006 901721 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No Fourth Wall - the sheer number of strips make it impossible to say if fourth wall breaking happens constantly or not, but at least this strip is an example. And this." < 1356668011 65350 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(About Mezzacotta) < 1356668048 885587 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why one couldn't take a random sample and determine with a certain degree of confidence what percentage are fourth wall breaking etc. < 1356668160 62197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we here at #tvtropescorrections will investigate your complaint < 1356668313 457581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a question for tvtropes but i was too lazy to search and find the answer < 1356668317 716988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is < 1356668329 689961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was Community the first sitcom to have a character who thinks they're all in a TV show and everyone else thinks he's crazy < 1356668343 891924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems kinda likely that there is precedent, but i don't know of one < 1356668364 388262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to amplify the audio of a HDMI signal without decoding it, and without affecting any other part of the signal? < 1356668399 784007 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, there's a webcomic that has a character that thinks he's not in a webcomic and everyone else thinks he's crazy. < 1356668429 977470 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356668455 850098 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356668456 76382 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356668456 258958 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356668682 488312 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: iirc the audio data is transported on seperate threads.. the signal is specified by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF < 1356668706 497038 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving a max. distance of about 10m < 1356668819 279006 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's not correct < 1356668830 398836 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is similar zo spdif < 1356668844 46822 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Extenders < 1356668897 918972 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically it would be possible. what would be the goal of this amplification? < 1356668909 852388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it encrypted tho < 1356669052 549348 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you could use amplitude modulation to inject information as done in radios too < 1356669090 250739 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats not y asked did you zzo38? < 1356669395 184681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a HDMI computer monitor with sound and want to be able to adjust the volume (this is not the computer monitor I am using here; my brother paid and it is being used for the downstairs TV) < 1356669522 584691 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HDMI is encrypted? To prevent an attack from whom? < 1356669532 464783 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the user < 1356669536 821823 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..? < 1356669541 614740 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this DRM stuff? < 1356669543 130312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the user might attack the content industry < 1356669626 478125 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I can't make a fully compatible HDMI device without a key? < 1356669668 664301 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, according to Wikipedia, the key has been reverse engineered, I guess? < 1356669697 16876 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally the volume is not controlled by the carrier signal but by a transistor at its receiver < 1356669710 673886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the HDMI but some devices use it so I want to be able to make it connect multiple devices in one computer monitor, some which are Digi-RGB instead, and have it switch simply by acting like the cable is disconnected and reconnected, as well as adjust the volume from the same switching device, without decrypting anything. < 1356669712 838165 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, according to Wikipedia, there is a master key and from that device keys can be made. That makes sense < 1356669727 254716 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not like every company that wants to make an HDMI device gets the same key. That would be dumb. < 1356669977 688307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there provisions for distributing key revocation lists? < 1356669991 660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that blu-ray disks can revoke blu-ray keys but can they also revoke HDCP keys? < 1356670004 43417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is HDCP actually mandatory for HDMI? < 1356670015 930967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is Digi-RGB the thing you invented? < 1356670066 547486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1356670088 356734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.adafruit.com/products/609 is a neat gadget < 1356670125 280070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can overlay video on HDCP-encrypted HDMI feeds < 1356670191 523422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And any device I build which outputs or inputs video signals, other than adapters (such as what I described above), will be Digi-RGB, and NTSC composite; no HDMI. < 1356670193 692164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does so without decrypting the source video < 1356670260 387356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rdist.root.org/2011/09/13/the-magic-inside-bunnies-new-netv/ < 1356670278 426809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: OK, but I am not trying to do anything to the video signal; I am trying to adjust the volume. < 1356670283 848161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know zzo38 < 1356670340 928286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Huh. That sounds like an interesting hack. < 1356670465 356282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says some dispalys will accept HDMI audio over DVI connector, but I have tried that and the one I have doesn't do audio if the HDMI port from the VCR/DVD is connected to the DVI port on the computer monitor. < 1356670825 249995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also a royalty for HDMI. Therefore I want to intend to avoid it somehow, even if making passthrough devices. < 1356671038 412775 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1356671073 181967 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, from Wikipedia, I guess that device keys are revocable but master key isn't (or maybe it is, doesn't really say, but that seems like it would be difficult to deal with), and HDCP might be optional? < 1356671083 370704 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sn't sure
< 1356671106 610651 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New xkcd not up yet :( < 1356671136 796720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says it costs one cent more if you don't have HDCP, for some reason < 1356671563 16180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one cent and one drop of blood < 1356671577 544355 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1356671628 740438 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There's a new one now, at least < 1356671662 16736 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ty < 1356671728 531227 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMBC is good < 1356671850 288047 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 NICK :msivoaisw < 1356671895 737584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd is up and it sucks < 1356671945 312236 :msivoaisw!~zaki@199.19.225.239 NICK :sivoais < 1356672056 634003 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like it < 1356672211 147264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1356672211 664144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1356672286 868333 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, there may be a jerkcity Minecraft server < 1356672301 960320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there is < 1356672361 594522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this particular xkcd strip sucks mainly because it's a worn-out joke told without any clever variation < 1356672374 814654 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1356672388 331452 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how's the goatsekcd < 1356672404 679676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which criticism depends on other things you have seen < 1356672454 503032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it seems reasonable that some people would find it funny < 1356672478 243093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goatkcd will be just a single goatse panel with the title "PROOF" < 1356672487 163732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not that good as goatkcd goes < 1356672660 564029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk i never find goatkcd funny and i still laughed at that description < 1356672674 872135 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conjecture: forall comic. lim t->\infty SNR_comic = 0 < 1356672676 232814 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1356672731 435295 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made the mistake of joining a jerkcity-related IRC channel < 1356672754 363916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it the secret IRC channel deep in the bowels of the internet where jerkcity is created? < 1356672773 701444 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Although that was mentioned. < 1356672791 980915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god for making #esoteric and making it hilarious < 1356672838 765897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :praise vectron < 1356672844 321180 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR VECTRON < 1356672853 655412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by vectron's kindly claw! < 1356672859 576946 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ my favorite line < 1356672883 767134 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That hand gesture and his goofy inflection make it amazing < 1356672892 967312 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTrzUuWlHI < 1356672934 291435 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :𝚪 ^ < 1356673210 968210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what character is that < 1356673213 32545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen eats it :( < 1356673233 946944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks a little like an r with the stem heavily bolded < 1356673235 662724 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :capital gamma? < 1356673255 261017 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the curvy part straight, come to look at it < 1356673269 284558 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Context < 1356673271 578839 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's kmc's nemesis, MATHEMATICAL BOLD CAPITAL GAMMA < 1356673300 466150 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks right < 1356673329 960945 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Γ better? < 1356673345 6471 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a box drawing character < 1356673351 834141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no, it isn't. huh < 1356673683 869255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :┌────────┐ < 1356674829 651454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes Windows 98 installer, please perform a bad blocks scan of your virtual emulated hard drive < 1356674839 908123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no idea how completely i control your so-called reality < 1356674866 935429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the god of this machine. windows 98 is naught but a helpless puppet before you < 1356675478 483958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: something about windows95tips < 1356675693 167467 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is kmc acting under the control of the urge to use mscc < 1356676118 632953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Select the directory where you want to install Windows 98: [X] C:\WINDOWS [ ] Other directory" < 1356676121 665107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do you want to get punched in the balls: [X] No [ ] Yes" < 1356676377 684954 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't tick this box unless you're from the future" < 1356676486 720518 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i suppose "why on earth are you installing Windows 98" would be a dumb question < 1356676587 143825 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Comic Chat is the client of the future. Assuming time is cyclic, anyway. < 1356676606 308619 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Chat oh wow, that thing < 1356676611 64105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that the thing that invented Comic Sans? < 1356676640 358641 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was just for word processing < 1356676653 821158 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The typeface has been supplied with Microsoft Windows since the introduction of Windows 95, initially as a supplemental font in the Windows Plus Pack and later in Microsoft Comic Chat.» oh, so close < 1356676678 864141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit, they got Microsoft Research to make this? XD < 1356676681 871571 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND WHAT WOULD YOU USE, ARIAL? < 1356676704 434406 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/62/MsComicChat.png ...the art style looks like Frank. < 1356676731 855774 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comic Chat was accepted to siggraph < 1356676735 480470 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit is legit man < 1356676738 767878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comic sans was for microsoft bob < 1356676740 479447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was too late < 1356676749 614561 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of really want to use it, now. < 1356676753 535430 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit, they actually tried to get it look like Frank < 1356676757 199235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is disturbing < 1356676759 96088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a real problem with microsoft comic chat < 1356676769 264958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just looks like jerkcity to me now < 1356676784 533083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I just get really confused whenever I see a screenshot :( < 1356676788 272002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly this is not often a problem for me < 1356676794 10458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read Frank < 1356676843 679757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1356676855 815727 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should, so that you can see kmc's Comic Chat journey as a hallucinatory, unending nightmare of spinning tops made of crushed souls < 1356676864 814560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: apparently by "tried to get it to look like" you mean "got the creator of that to make it" < 1356676876 97316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which I mean "Woodring illustrated Microsoft's Comic Chat program" [1] < 1356676879 144646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :== References == < 1356676882 336107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. an uncited statement on Wikipedia < 1356676887 537105 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was just going off of "All of the comic characters and backgrounds were initially created by comic artist Jim Woodring. " < 1356676893 176604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1356676911 969888 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i uh, i read that totally wrong. i am impressed with this level of failure. < 1356676933 534174 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the point is that Woodring is literally insane. < 1356676940 701107 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha. I love that citation. < 1356676986 638241 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Does that have, like, a bibtex entry ot something" < 1356677007 122748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\TrustMe < 1356677024 769156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : so I just get really confused whenever I see a screenshot < 1356677025 86975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356677030 563020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why aren't they all talking about gay cocks" < 1356677075 646143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how likely is it that this guy's art is most well-known through jerkcity < 1356677078 735024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he looks a bit too famous for that < 1356677086 715079 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerkcity did a woodring thing? < 1356677103 421898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woodring did the art for comic chat < 1356677107 763267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerkcity is rendered in comic chat < 1356677114 786326 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa man. < 1356677116 465334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rendered" < 1356677130 220086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is! < 1356677133 769051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have perl scripts and everything < 1356677137 485975 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, as far as i know woodring is what you call a "cult hit", so a sufficiently popular webcomic probably has more readers < 1356677187 492621 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck it /is/ < 1356677207 786626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure it counts as "popular" < 1356677227 901065 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity3274.gif is this autogenerated? < 1356677232 178802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or arguably "webcomic" < 1356677252 600268 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IF I WERE HTML I'D BE &" < 1356677253 456173 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read it, and am an obvious slave to pop culture. Ergo, it must be popular. QED. < 1356677256 636399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my understanding of how jerkcity is made is < 1356677285 72671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a private IRC channel where a few people write obscene garbage whenever they want to blow off steam < 1356677302 100390 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that sounds plausible < 1356677316 971310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some scripts chop up the logs of that channel and replay it through a few IRC bots < 1356677327 166033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gets a screenshot of comic chat in that room < 1356677339 321497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is partially but not fully automated < 1356677354 510697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really appropriate for woodring < 1356677362 28680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if they automated the process to draw red 'X'es over deuce's eyes for several months after they got poke]d out < 1356677363 206757 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in his old comics all the dialogue was just cursing < 1356677394 133371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also not sure if the non-standard comic chat backgrounds (e.g. men's room urinals) are customizations to comic chat or are added in postproduction < 1356677402 317482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"postproduction" < 1356677404 215534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it did not ship with a men's room urinals theme < 1356677422 302614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :server cluster dedicated to the hundred-core high definition rendering of jerkcity < 1356677426 320216 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :him im back but is this about jerkcity < 1356677430 897487 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes <:] < 1356677442 425467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it was about kmc trying to install windows 98 in a vm for microsoft comic chat < 1356677448 685356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying and suceeding! < 1356677449 50881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it turned into being about jerkcity < 1356677450 729357 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noice < 1356677459 699277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Getting ready to run Windows for the first time." < 1356677467 148040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not ready < 1356677473 809549 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did kmc decide to install Windows 98 because of me? < 1356677482 414953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your claim to fame < 1356677491 751047 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice i've tried to run comic chat in wine, with varying degrees of unsuccess < 1356677492 767522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also managed to download "Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services Edition.iso.7z" while i'm at it < 1356677496 88664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have that to look forward to < 1356677499 259263 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is the end goal here a fungot-based webcomic < 1356677500 246756 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i. from the east. the low antarctic sun of midnight poured its hazy reddish rays over the white snow, bluish ice and water lanes, and black, fnord, < 1356677511 156446 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for your input < 1356677511 481433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i already had a win98 VM for this purpose but can't find it < 1356677514 19191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if they specially configure their irc clients to rewrite "foo: bar" as "t foo bar" < 1356677517 680182 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too existentialist, fungot < 1356677518 886415 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: i now advanced toward the wall at my left, where it was of basalt, where a fanatic fnord a dire future from visions he has seen. < 1356677524 502778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whether they get the scripts to do it or whether they actually type it out every time < 1356677528 725944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysterys of the universe < 1356677531 5533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t fungot gay cocks < 1356677532 508875 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: " indirectly," he whispered. " it wouldnt do not to answer it anyway, and it leaves you altogether. you have dreamed too well, o wise fnord, for all he could to restore the boy to normal poise. willett was the most phenomenal child scholar i have ever known; the rats they can never fnord the rats, living or spectral, had not the butler spoken of queer noises? < 1356677543 430524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :queer noises indeed < 1356677570 98442 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliott!" fungot ejaculated. < 1356677571 643079 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: hill by so elderly a man, gnawing at the head of a steep flight of steps from the square was visibly padlocked. the path from the gate to those regions. the yellowed country records containing her testimony and that of only thirty million years old. < 1356677625 182153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could just have so many layers of indirection that the product loses all humanity < 1356677633 498758 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feed spam emails, warped by a botnet, into jerkcity irc < 1356677675 670156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.mezzacotta.net/ < 1356677678 939779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except more profane < 1356677698 320658 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look the cursing is an integral component in this < 1356677716 666274 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since that outputs SVG, it should be possible to read the text without OCR, but I wonder if there's a given API for reading the text of a comic < 1356677726 856281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure whether mezzacotta or jerkcity is more uneven in terms of funny < 1356677750 64443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice adblock blocks mezzacotta's fake ads < 1356677753 192762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerkcity is extremely consistent < 1356677753 819579 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just say they're the same in some principle < 1356677785 875320 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comic from the day i was born sucks, but includes "unthinkable void", so i guess that's ok. < 1356677802 321135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hobgoblin of little minds < 1356677805 240368 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me has anyone figured out the boole mystery < 1356677812 456434 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boole mystery? < 1356677816 218409 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Use L'Hôpital's Rule and find out if Mezzacotta tends toward funny or unfunny, no? < 1356677816 920508 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356677819 619685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the progress indicator stops for a long time and there is no disk activity, please restart your computer." < 1356677826 822832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it turns out to originally have been posted by jerkcity < 1356677835 718917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what is the boole mystery < 1356677852 329929 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quote about BOOLE from a few days ago where you got it from like three layers of irc quotes < 1356677853 890166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm the mezzacotta comic from my dob isn't very good < 1356677860 983206 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: origin of boole wisdom < 1356677861 377010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no jerkcity comic from my dob because it did not exist < 1356677866 30534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ahhhh yes < 1356677872 940158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i want to play that cool ass hovercraft game from the windows 95 cd as well < 1356677879 984944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/19/871261 < 1356677882 866995 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1356677898 47447 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you;ve solved it < 1356677906 450400 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote boole < 1356677906 638100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Berengal says: 'Bobby Boolean felt horrible. What did he ever do to the other values? He was just a simple bit, a simple answer to a simple question! Suddenly he felt his insides churn; he felt an < 1356677906 820720 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exception coming on! Oh no! What should he do, now that he was outside of IO?' < 1356677912 166199 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. < 1356677920 504821 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote boole < 1356677920 690908 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Berengal says: 'Bobby Boolean felt horrible. What did he ever do to the other values? He was just a simple bit, a simple answer to a simple question! Suddenly he felt his insides churn; he felt an < 1356677920 873519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exception coming on! Oh no! What should he do, now that he was outside of IO?' < 1356677923 619573 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine. < 1356677931 248943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote boole < 1356677932 873499 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he /threw/ up? < 1356677936 576739 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :563) sadhu: it's been said that boole is the crowning jewel perched precariously upon the perfect peak of programmer prowess, casting its limitless limpid light over the loathesome lands of those who scuff and wallow in the dreary dust of digital depravity and unbounded wilful ignorance of the testament of our lord jesus christ into your l < 1356677942 263922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote perched precariously < 1356677942 564668 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes for this person. Are you on drugs? < 1356677944 967642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote perched.*precariously < 1356677945 157162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. I feel much better now. < 1356677948 88715 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, sgeo. < 1356677949 174638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1356677951 676673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prolly got lost < 1356677952 529569 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fungot ver. is missing caps and it cuts off < 1356677953 685221 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: in another moment the fnord vanished, and he fancied that the manner of an adept, to endure the eon long flight through fathomless abysses. he knew that in this climate such a thing may be like. dholes are known only by dim rumour, from the nightmare caverns of tartarus. < 1356677957 777883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because lambdabot's repetition was ages ago < 1356677960 934153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lambdabot likes to lose data < 1356677962 133201 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1356677966 720486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :%style < 1356677968 353934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1356677969 100245 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1356677971 520823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good style < 1356677978 394661 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: boo etc. < 1356677990 144470 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he just < 1356677991 563855 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't handle it < 1356677995 317168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck off < 1356677999 975255 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;- < 1356678000 882331 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1356678020 895130 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1356678022 276703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?date=1985-02-17 mezzacotta seems pretty evenly unfunny. < 1356678040 533958 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't tell whether my dob mezzacotta is brilliant or awful < 1356678045 334506 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that means it's art < 1356678046 410270 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately he was over the toilet, so that when he threw it, it was -caught- not long after < 1356678059 118995 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to link to my dob mezzacotta, but I don't really want to reveal my dob < 1356678064 686680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: anyway, so that quote about preciarious perching is probably from #scheme, but lambdabot got it from a bot which was quoting a bot quoting a bot etc. and nobody here knows where it's from < 1356678071 2431 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, after all that, he felt better < 1356678085 556110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.mezzacotta.net/bestbakes.php has some ~crowdsourced~ good mezzacottas < 1356678094 642372 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?year=1996&epoch=ad&month=01&day=28 here's mine < 1356678111 119297 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?year=1989&epoch=ad&month=05&day=01 < 1356678130 600607 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This describes my entire life: http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?year=1989&epoch=ad&month=09&day=14 < 1356678147 796463 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These suck. You all suck. I hate everybody. I hate mezzacotta. I hate toilets. < 1356678168 963795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a great way to assemble < 1356678172 419157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my list of birthdays < 1356678177 412146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ \n/\n/ < 1356678185 204729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1356678186 788242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/fix that/ < 1356678195 643969 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?date=-1961-06-11 this one is good < 1356678195 826687 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is monqy actually a teenager or is he being a horrible untruthful jerk? < 1356678210 951290 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: depends on what you mean by teenage < 1356678215 923669 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes i am < 1356678220 919956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy makes me feel old < 1356678224 928951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more used to making other people feel old < 1356678250 45275 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sorry for the puns. I kind of felt like I needed to unwind < 1356678257 942490 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut < 1356678258 597556 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :up < 1356678264 309644 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, you ok? < 1356678285 288756 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ruffles Bike's hair
< 1356678304 49391 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is an unceasing torment. i ran to the store and it was closed and they didn't have any twinkies. NOT EVEN ANY SUGAR. A raindrop hit me in the nose and my eustachian canal filled with fluid, agonizing fluid < 1356678376 838391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/archive.php?date=1995-08-22 my birthday mezzacotta since i feel left out < 1356678379 849860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's not very good" < 1356678391 935275 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, what's iGoogle? < 1356678416 76027 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever it is, it was mentioned in the same sentence as Comic Chat, Woodring's illustrations are available for it, and kmc's hilarious time capsule installation probably isn't necessary for it. < 1356678419 174128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"iGoogle will not be available after November 1, 2013." < 1356678420 646608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this helps < 1356678443 591926 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! i'll have to install a windows 8 emulator ten years from now < 1356678457 893376 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think iGoogle is a website < 1356678458 75964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's also a website < 1356678461 622870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'll have to install a time machine also < 1356678481 758558 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~OS X already has Time Machine~ < 1356678500 929091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so i'll install an osx virt on my windows 8 capsule. foolproof. < 1356678502 225312 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1356678516 604429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alcohol 120% With Crack < 1356678560 366314 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect < 1356678756 827773 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use alcohol with crack, kids < 1356678934 298484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mr. Spock succumbs to a powerful mating urge and nearly kills Captain Kirk." < 1356679158 34533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have rebooted at least 3 times in this install < 1356679165 630301 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1356679200 517555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, so are you using your 98 install to read star trek too? < 1356679207 331057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1356679215 620649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1356679284 222578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: go fullscreen and live inside windows 98 for a few days IMO < 1356679290 856737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION used Windows 95 in a fullscreen VM for about a week once
< 1356679311 575319 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like some kind of monastic challenge < 1356679316 198791 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it an art installation < 1356679340 627086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it was actually interesting < 1356679352 740488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1356679372 711330 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i suppose you'd learn about a lot of software incompatibilities, for a boring start < 1356679375 592534 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can broadcast it, but I don't know if Windows 98 can do screen capture < 1356679381 280725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's interesting in that windows 95 basically invented the iteration of the windowed GUI that people are still using < 1356679384 292116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least were until recently < 1356679396 844295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's interesting to see what it does differently and how it's so much worse in a bunch of ways but also a bit better in some others < 1356679410 435996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also you get to learn that some software is actually, like, still released for windows 95 < 1356679424 518315 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: presumably if it's running in a vm you can manage it < 1356679428 95382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the time you could run recent releases of at least two browsers modern enough to browse pretty much any site on windows 95 < 1356679443 37671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's kind of crazy that that presumably actually gets tested < 1356679446 394339 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which browsers...? < 1356679459 490236 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess it's like how half of china is still using ie4 or w/e, huh < 1356679459 673803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: seamonkey and opera < 1356679459 856089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opera probably < 1356679470 325630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Opera still supports 95 < 1356679495 654884 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did microsoft stop supporting 95? < 1356679500 308090 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Opera 9 does and 10 doesn't? < 1356679514 230416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 2001 < 1356679548 953314 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opera 12 (!) does not support Windows 95 < 1356679561 183365 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that it's on 12 now makes me tempted to try it again < 1356679573 36840 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i like the idea of you doing this when you were six, so i'm gonna go with that in spite of reason < 1356679587 950788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this was like uh 2009? 2010? < 1356679591 252710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit I can't tell the years from each other < 1356679609 406754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what kind of VM could run 95 in 2001 < 1356679635 599913 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of six year old could run 95 in a VM in 2001 < 1356679645 66132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ran windows in vmware in 2002 - 2003 < 1356679647 206812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked all right < 1356679721 583890 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc were you six years old also why am i channeling monqy < 1356679738 697499 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1356679761 669622 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let us now have a moment of silence, to commemorate the age before VT-x < 1356679766 160428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1356679803 490945 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo???? < 1356679823 69274 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a fast channel < 1356679832 976706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think the only thing i remember doing when i was six is um < 1356679834 499089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :having an operation < 1356679850 671325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you live < 1356679863 906989 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was operated < 1356679893 694081 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1356679899 863889 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1356679917 704904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I died < 1356679918 927803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :R. I. P. < 1356679931 215950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1356679938 362139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really Incredibly Perished < 1356680272 497431 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"First of all I will only advocate the use of pure prolog - that means no recursion, lists, forall's, and any other features." < 1356680283 416800 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... does recursion not count as part of pure Prolog? < 1356680284 261833 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1356680301 748960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good job you came to #mindreaders to ask that question < 1356680323 377850 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good thing too < 1356680326 419756 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you're working in prolog the entirety of computer science is irrelevant " < 1356680328 688366 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pure" < 1356680329 451944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...o....k < 1356680345 540027 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably stop reading this now < 1356680351 528189 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mind reading is telling me you're baffled < 1356680357 221760 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eliminatingwork.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-prolog-is-by-far-best-most.html < 1356680366 683658 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why'd you link it < 1356680396 897178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading isn't a tag team operation, you can stop without getting other people to stop < 1356680410 851627 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :start. whatever < 1356680437 195964 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um since when < 1356680451 573593 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :timaeus < 1356680527 142361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you clearly have **NO IDEA** how #esoteric works < 1356680591 965076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm an idealist :( < 1356680619 146133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh i had to explicitly tell windows that i have a PCI bus < 1356680694 72454 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of like. ISA? < 1356680724 406932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1356680736 134888 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good popular Prolog-like language that isn't Mercury? < 1356680751 682215 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolog? < 1356680768 439088 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally better than Prolog, with different possible search strategies < 1356680777 432248 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does popular mean < 1356680779 703646 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does good mean < 1356680782 580666 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does better mean < 1356680785 407720 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh or Oz I guess < 1356680794 767567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this where "prolog-like" means "logic programming language" the way that "lisp-like" means "functional programming language"? < 1356680802 579983 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1356680815 329673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolog-like means "erlang" < 1356680817 556961 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I guess I am looking for a logic programming language. < 1356680830 815500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's wrong with prolog < 1356680830 997964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only non-prolog language anyone has ever specifically tried to make like prolog < 1356680832 41517 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about curry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1356680832 426219 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or mercury < 1356680837 904357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for a haskell-like programming language, meaning that it supports nesting multi-line comments < 1356680872 381889 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i should stare in confusion at that paper about implementing prolog in hardware on a VAX again < 1356680880 968020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good job windows < 1356680896 119444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uninstall IDE controller driver, reboot, try to install driver, cannot see CD-ROM < 1356680922 217340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you know about the Reduceron < 1356680928 314792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is installing Windows 98 in 2012 exactly as painful as installing Linux in 1998 and vice versa < 1356680929 601983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it currently holds the title for Coolest Fuckin Thing < 1356680940 395310 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fpga < 1356680943 490623 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat (no i hadn't) < 1356680948 513621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.york.ac.uk/fp/reduceron/ < 1356680948 808840 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides that he should attempt to understand Logtalk
< 1356680957 130595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it basically does graph reduction in hardware < 1356680961 7545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i'm working on the record for Most Times Rebooted In Windows Install < 1356680962 216698 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND the name isn't fucking moronic < 1356680965 101099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"haskell cpu" < 1356680967 450228 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like christmas < 1356680984 342490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the fpga itself is specced in haskell! < 1356680995 137939 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would installing Windows 98 in 2012 be any less painful than installing Windows 98 in 1998? < 1356680995 886750 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha, the first paper i hover over is actually a .lhs < 1356680999 938561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a library which spits out an unreadable ten kajillion line vhdl file < 1356681004 273725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just a bunch of gates < 1356681004 939959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever < 1356681008 869259 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PART :#esoteric < 1356681017 962139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then write the cpu in terms of that < 1356681041 682031 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck we're one step closer to hardware people having no fucking clue what's going on either < 1356681044 570949 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray < 1356681056 718951 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the joke that < 1356681061 20137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :our own ais523 also does work with compiling functional languages to hardware < 1356681063 448136 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. yes that is the joke < 1356681074 75467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff he works on has substructural types!!! it's great < 1356681087 185202 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell is a substructural type < 1356681100 999019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's when your type system is a substructural logic < 1356681114 388464 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuuuuuuuck < 1356681122 851838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bonghit noises* < 1356681130 500374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys remember when we set the topic and a few weeks later it turns out ais523 won $25k because of it < 1356681133 802684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goo dtimes < 1356681136 907039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1356681142 723614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.wolframscience.com/prizes/tm23/ < 1356681145 948597 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is that why he did the wolfram thing? < 1356681152 747192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that got put in the topic and then he solved it < 1356681160 128885 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is the cutting edge of research. < 1356681160 378902 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1356681162 899781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we only found out it was him after it got all over the internet < 1356681168 863773 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey fuck you oonbotti. < 1356681174 942605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, ais523 won that?? < 1356681179 965510 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha < 1356681183 338504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1356681184 29173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1356681187 726734 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like the first thing i heard in this channel how did you not know < 1356681214 12169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this is pretty old < 1356681216 754100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i did not hear < 1356681234 798124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: he did all the code in perl but wolfram insisted on rewriting it in mathematica < 1356681239 572907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when ais523 tried to test the mathematica code < 1356681246 412784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that wolfram research wrote) < 1356681247 28847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematica segfaulted < 1356681250 388460 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, is there a non-idiotic definition of "smallest turing machine" here < 1356681260 349471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they have an appendix with mathematica code in that paper that afaik has not actually been tested < 1356681273 815219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1356681275 556549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wolfram < 1356681277 246426 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's the product thing isn't it. eh < 1356681291 589307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Turing_machine#Smallest_machines < 1356681309 998480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1356681317 18942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523's proof is kind of freaky < 1356681326 941011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's TC but you have to give it an infinite, non-repeating initial pattern < 1356681327 399455 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The proof of universality for Wolfram's 2-state 3-symbol Turing machine further extends the notion of weak universality by allowing certain non-periodic initial configurations." oh, that's neat < 1356681339 76751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that pattern can be generated by a weak (not even close to TC) machine < 1356681346 846011 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it ever get published anywhere or am i going to have to wrestle wolfram for it? < 1356681353 133518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hence endless flamewars over whether it counts or not < 1356681365 433609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.wolframscience.com/prizes/tm23/TM23Proof.pdf < 1356681371 305935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1356681374 353602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's meant to be published in wolfram's pet journal I think < 1356681377 746791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like the past infinity yeras < 1356681400 31973 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i saw that before, s why i asked < 1356681408 986823 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a friend ask for a preprint, i'll pass this on as i stumble through it < 1356681432 550262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone actually tell you about this, I have no recollection of it < 1356681470 727736 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was mentioned casually and I did my asking questions thing. < 1356681483 900500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really not a good thing to do around here < 1356681494 916339 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a rebel who doesn't play by the rules < 1356681522 769498 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh fuck i'm under too may levels of irony here, sorry, back in a bit < 1356681523 840596 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PART :#esoteric < 1356681536 472573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :R. I. P. < 1356681699 898321 :kmccchat!~kmccchat@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356681707 203915 :kmccchat!~kmccchat@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356681731 480524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i was literally just about to type T KMCCCHAT < 1356681751 934733 :kmcchat!~kmcchat@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356681754 439580 :kmcchat!~kmcchat@c-76-119-235-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356681761 816954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo it segfaults < 1356681773 747081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what vm are you using < 1356681870 327996 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356681929 651218 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356681936 711893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: welcome back < 1356681941 723214 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1356682024 662145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::,( < 1356682037 961732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why u gonn exploit me elliott ?? < 1356682044 81199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1356682050 113282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i aim to heck ur aim < 1356682052 861501 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know i'm not sure what the apostrophe means anyway < 1356682054 803454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as all true aim heckers do < 1356682056 105598 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it supposed to be snot? < 1356682059 112526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: its a stick < 1356682070 685382 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a plank in my eye. i see. < 1356682072 338917 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's deep. < 1356682074 724700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356682077 856436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its also a tear < 1356682089 15671 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought a tear < 1356682097 798874 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tears aren't pointy, are you stupid < 1356682105 262413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a terabyte is a lot more than a gigabyte < 1356682107 951508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :study shows < 1356682114 170214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes i'm stupid < 1356682120 925991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad < 1356682135 650079 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you know?? < 1356682209 851992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am out of the loop < 1356682240 950760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta sleep now ttyl all < 1356682267 785774 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let loop (Bike Bike) (Bike) (loop) ) < 1356682292 386634 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you're in! < 1356682298 471009 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that reminds me < 1356682323 82841 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why in the fuck does scheme use lets to bind a function name like that. < 1356682337 859243 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1356682338 41807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta shoehorn it in somewhere < 1356682344 826440 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike or loop? < 1356682360 288820 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop < 1356682362 266941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta shoehorn it in Bike < 1356682362 514493 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :named let i mean < 1356682363 550176 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quite like the named-let approach to looping < 1356682378 524783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean binding the name makes sense < 1356682380 549093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just, why with let < 1356682454 344034 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess a single-pass loop is just like a normal let? Dunno < 1356682467 688929 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any other ideas for keywords? < 1356682470 689671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway shouldn't it be (let loop ((Bike Bike)) (Bike) (loop)) < 1356682475 967380 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"keywords"? < 1356682518 237694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my approach is use haskell nerds 8) 8) 8) 8 ) < 1356682528 678176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : oo < 1356682534 63701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ / < 1356682534 482391 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR:Stack underflow < 1356682535 930330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : _ < 1356682539 397201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU OONBOTTI < 1356682541 618048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well played oonbotti < 1356682545 415868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : oo < 1356682548 411758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : \ / < 1356682552 332139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : __ < 1356682553 470177 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i've Heard haskell is a lisp is this true is it r9rs < 1356682557 92213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356682559 986620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like how erlang is prolog < 1356682561 570494 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot damn < 1356682563 914338 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: instead of "let" < 1356682566 116329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys remember r6rs < 1356682567 515536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha hah ahaha < 1356682571 764775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boy THAT was a good joke < 1356682577 888534 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was with r6rs anyway < 1356682587 252075 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: it's pretty basic sugar around letrec innit < 1356682600 330764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :r6rs never happened it was just a really awful hallucination < 1356682610 370909 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're cruel < 1356682627 484538 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway but seriously i haven't read it or anything, what's the deal < 1356682634 25531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well have you read r5rs < 1356682637 815972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least do you know things about r5rs < 1356682639 679823 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I *mean* some other way to denote named-let < 1356682653 136692 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what it is and that's about it < 1356682661 755492 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've heard r6rs is like nine thousand pages long or whatever < 1356682675 12082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1356682676 390042 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: i dunno. "recur"? < 1356682683 916861 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read r5rs some time because it's really pretty amazing < 1356682696 192972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can just glance at r6rs and pick a few pages out and you'll see why it was a disaster as a follow-up to r5rs < 1356682697 919700 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and r6rs is i take it not amazing < 1356682705 153389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :namazing < 1356682710 637314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not saying r6rs is necessarily an awful language or anything < 1356682736 24083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but r5rs was like the perfect midpoint between a research language, a teaching language, and a programming language < 1356682749 808590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the spec is really tiny and well-written and precise compared to most languages < 1356682759 4336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glances through. vector-sort! but not list-sort!. random
< 1356682761 701945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then r6rs just decided to make it into a programming language < 1356682771 239911 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!! < 1356682779 629803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you get a new type for a vector of bytes because idk performance < 1356682782 353310 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-10.html#node_chap_9 ahahahaha < 1356682783 405982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a big module system < 1356682805 822370 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought schemers just used racket anyway now < 1356682806 4988 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bunch of standard libraries for stuff like IO and hashtables < 1356682824 81458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the problem it tried to address was real - < 1356682834 499003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a bunch of scheme implementations based off r5rs and they like to roll their own way to do lots of basic stuff < 1356682846 185157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't really work as "the unified R5RS follow-up" < 1356682847 997817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is like, the #1 thing i've heard about scheme -_- < 1356682861 588608 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's cool but there are forty iplementations and they're never compatible so uh" < 1356682866 647462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a different language that only really hits one of the three points that r5rs did all three of < 1356682870 62176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens to be based on R5RS < 1356682890 57080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket itself has diverged pretty far from R5RS and R6RS both < 1356682895 535866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a completely different thing now < 1356682899 402911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence their rename < 1356682901 927109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know that < 1356682909 446686 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically r6rs is yet another variant of r5rs :v < 1356682919 10979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :R7RS is kind of going back; draft 6 is an 81-page PDF and looks a lot more like R5RS. < 1356682919 882776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway Scheme was never exactly popular as a practical language so I don't know how to ascertain whether schemers just use racket now < 1356682923 423753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think it's really true < 1356682930 422652 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yay < 1356682942 903560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are they still going with the small scheme / big scheme division? < 1356682952 912021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that dissatisfactory but better than R6RS < 1356682964 113040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think maybe, but the only thing I've seen so far is things about the "small" language. < 1356682980 130730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: anyway there is http://srfi.schemers.org/ which was the conventional standardisation procedure for Scheme libraries < 1356682981 550847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they'll forget to do the big one. < 1356682986 131591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean everybody does SRFI-1 < 1356682998 728759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it even has ways to like load libraries and stuff < 1356683001 311676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those aren't as commonly used < 1356683006 541958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone implements their own stuff in addition < 1356683013 298148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Scheme libraries/R5RS libraries/ < 1356683013 889234 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, what i heard. < 1356683033 547737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah you can't really write programs in R5RS < 1356683040 738196 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the small/big division? < 1356683041 259064 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, mister shivers again < 1356683043 411425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in "practical programs" < 1356683046 80911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just how it is < 1356683060 359690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but taken in a vacuum the R5RS spec is really something < 1356683232 315719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: other reasons to learn the R5RS spec include being able to understand half of what Oleg is going on about < 1356683243 170905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(necessary but not sufficient) < 1356683248 804502 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell is that < 1356683267 261914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://okmij.org/ftp/ < 1356683282 486426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oleg kiselyov, complete and utter functional programming genius < 1356683288 579885 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot of things < 1356683299 585130 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The goal of MetaHaskell is convenient and expressive code generation in Haskell that maintains lexical scope and statically ensures the results (even intermediate, open results) are well-formed and well-typed" hm < 1356683308 303374 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is very discouraging sometimes (often) < 1356683325 316094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is responsible for like 50% of the innovations in both scheme and haskell :P < 1356683327 320385 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356683335 788361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am exaggerating but his site really is an amazing resource < 1356683347 327086 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i can see that < 1356683357 359504 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356683359 356546 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking hell he even does that linguistics/continuations shit < 1356683391 526531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The following Twelf code formalizes small-step semantics for System F with constants and additional typing rules, closely following the `Syntactic Approach to Type Soundness' with contexts, focusing and redexing» man. man < 1356683450 618243 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"UNIX pipes as IO monads" < 1356683483 359086 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :euuuuugh < 1356683529 597784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't die < 1356683566 314219 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck all this computer bullshit, i'm so behind. who needs computers anyway. 's bullshit < 1356683586 415991 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gb2 DOS < 1356683615 973151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if it helps that pipes thing is from 2001! < 1356683620 788987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you've been so behind for ages now < 1356683637 278153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so behind in the field of monadic unix < 1356683694 291949 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We show how to program with the law of excluded middle. We specifically avoid call/cc, which is overrated." this guy's a joker isn't he < 1356683713 392987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oleg is a strong advocate for delimited continuations over call-with-current-continuation < 1356683721 649779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://okmij.org/ftp/continuations/ < 1356683749 844651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i've read some of this before even < 1356683848 494982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I have like five programs I want to write, this is 10x worse than my previous situation of not having anything I want to write < 1356683857 988958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'll suffer for my laziness < 1356683888 555390 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sendmail as a Turing machine" i don't think any amount of scheme standards would let me understand this < 1356683953 412439 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-1-5.dab.02.net QUIT :Quit: need more juice < 1356683957 624154 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should learn about Mozart/Oz even if it's dead < 1356683973 550945 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why/why not/??????? < 1356683995 455510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it has begun. you can't escape now < 1356684074 352719 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you dad i'm just going to stare at these types < 1356684157 776267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: life is empty < 1356684235 218647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :R. I. P. < 1356684242 570039 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1356684451 967583 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4f125.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356685731 642709 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozard anonymous procedures are verbose :( < 1356685763 401744 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cream of beige < 1356685771 848340 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw why are you learning omztre < 1356685979 46137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you all misspelled mozzarella < 1356686011 47381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm now i want pizza < 1356686094 295962 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a pizza < 1356686098 171288 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it was actually an omelette < 1356686106 744434 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :with cheese and turkey pepperonis < 1356686114 786255 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was like an egg pizza < 1356686119 412859 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :egg calzone < 1356686171 197059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not a pizza < 1356686188 680154 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356686379 891854 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what it would taste like if you made scrambled eggs and then put it inside an omelette < 1356686387 32493 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the texture difference would be significantly better < 1356686388 596793 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b66f6.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356686648 532989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put scrambled eggs inside a potato, is that an inverse spanish omelette? < 1356686740 656795 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warning:The exact syntax for functions as well as their transformation into procedure definitions is defined in the The Oz Notation Reference Manual. < 1356686740 839408 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1356686747 642707 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how that is a "Warning" < 1356686763 816638 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tutorial seems to call any reference to any other portion of the manual a "warning" < 1356687298 897403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps for technical document-markuppery reasons. Like, they wanted to highlight those, and the only kind of highlighting available was a "warning" thing. < 1356688218 986869 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356688241 987334 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1356688390 96478 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote yes Windows 98 installer, please perform a bad blocks scan of your virtual emulated hard drive you have no idea how completely i control your so-called reality < 1356688398 785171 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :889) yes Windows 98 installer, please perform a bad blocks scan of your virtual emulated hard drive you have no idea how completely i control your so-called reality < 1356688443 241219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie gets to fix < 1356688546 275660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 889 < 1356688548 15721 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :889) yes Windows 98 installer, please perform a bad blocks scan of your virtual emulated hard drive you have no idea how completely i control your so-called reality < 1356688563 930221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you fixed it implicitly < 1356688584 695551 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happen < 1356688589 858684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was too ashamed to potentially screw up in public. < 1356688604 276649 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should try to understand Standard ML before AliceML < 1356688604 735326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anyway, isn't that kind of thing usually done in the privacy of your own water-closet?) < 1356688647 293351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: There are standards about quote-formatting. < 1356688670 482745 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By pickling first-class functions, Alice processes can exchange behaviour." < 1356688711 485323 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume that that's as dangerous to unpickle untrusted functions as it sounds < 1356688715 948127 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I 4know < 1356688730 424283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you broke them < 1356688733 823562 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nobody has written them down so I have to go by memory < 1356689086 567415 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1356689087 935752 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :277) [After a long monologue] i think i have to escape this heated discussion before it becomes a flamewar < 1356689314 903130 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356689327 835507 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1356689483 362602 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.172 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1356689536 569642 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnotherTest, elliott is being unreasonable today < 1356689559 733762 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe it < 1356689565 587214 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like elliott < 1356689749 267764 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!message ais523 I can't believe you forgot to mention Feather in your bio for the 2,3 TM solution < 1356689761 4370 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm that is the correct command < 1356689772 415297 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 I can't believe you forgot to mention Feather in your bio for the 2,3 TM solution < 1356689772 599796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1356689979 621508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you realise it predates Feather < 1356690011 778826 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: assuming Feather isn't implemented < 1356690021 697010 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :once it's implemented then Feather will predate it < 1356690058 739704 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realise starting sentences with "you realise" is catty < 1356690098 436804 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize that catty isatty? < 1356690101 750756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1356690127 461175 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ragepart < 1356690256 888656 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356690312 308190 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott also the proof doesn't have a date on it hth < 1356690312 492117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1356690914 938032 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 also do you still have the perl code before wolfram mathematicaised it? < 1356690915 122702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1356691158 810184 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From INTERCAL to LOLCODE: The Esoteric Programming Story is a concept documentary from User:Star651 in 2012. No filming has been done yet, but the concept is down. " < 1356691175 453228 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute... is he really going to film THAT? < 1356691263 213313 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am I just not getting the joke < 1356691299 772489 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shrug < 1356691321 8029 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were 8 when I got here I might've thought to make a film too < 1356691518 396396 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. I was never a movie fan though. < 1356691563 162063 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though it was going to be a book at first < 1356691619 714468 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thought < 1356692618 369809 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356693301 308646 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356693405 384923 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGPL is a good idea < 1356694571 496157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eliminatingwork.blogspot.fi/2010/02/why-prolog-is-by-far-best-most.html operating systems are computer science? < 1356695059 937992 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356695291 490658 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356696485 960531 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how can I pass a "map" of values to a gopher page? Is there a standard way to encode it in the query string? < 1356696505 977706 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a la HTTP's foo=bar&baz=qux encoding) < 1356696586 968718 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is standard but you should be able to do something like < 1356696622 512946 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :foofoo=barbaz=qux < 1356696771 802736 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. that would only work with itemtype 7 < 1356696797 40779 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : /path?foo=bar&baz=qux < 1356696985 802139 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well assuming both source and target page need to agree anyway, may as well require the target to be type 7? Or is that abusive? < 1356697092 181242 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Passing a map is really useful (see: webforms) < 1356697220 166728 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :type 7 is searchbox < 1356697223 173614 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-box < 1356697263 904415 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess there's not much in the way of UI for query input? < 1356697282 921239 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do most clients just support a single term for type 7? < 1356697293 201935 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1356697322 30576 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exact text you type will be put on request after a tab < 1356697362 637560 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so just one term then < 1356697370 104148 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356697392 620988 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the map syntax would need to be something you type yourself < 1356697392 898311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: There is no standard way to pass a map of values. < 1356697396 548511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not supposed to be. < 1356697404 750146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the map syntax is something you type yourself. < 1356697438 292264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever you type is sent after the tab. < 1356697537 616771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, so Ciao has a library that defines a more functional syntax for using functions < 1356697544 944727 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ciao being largely Prolog-based) < 1356697600 852848 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case I would probably use "foo: bar, baz: qux" for ease of typing < 1356697603 580918 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Borrowed from YAML :-) < 1356697619 984027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can use whatever works for whatever system you are implementing. < 1356697645 107446 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b66f6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess any kind of serializable date works < 1356697649 865132 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b66f6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*data < 1356697682 328478 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes: I just wanted to know if there was already a common way of doing it < 1356697732 955591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is none. In one program (which no longer works, and it is not my fault) it uses key=value;key=value;key=value format. < 1356697760 270551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :While in the FurryScript gopher interface, it uses the number of times you want, and then a space and the parameter (both are optional). < 1356697921 662797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356698236 620005 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay! < 1356698273 684655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A client should just allow the user to enter arbitrary printable ASCII text for the query parameter. < 1356698362 3494 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I see that < 1356698362 680208 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course it is obvious you can ask them to type a given structure if you want to extract several data from it < 1356698442 628077 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The server may provide a help option on the same menu as the query option; alternatively, it might display a help menu if the query string is left blank. This depends what you choose to do. < 1356698461 32233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the client should allow empty query strings (the tab will still be included, though). < 1356698491 639346 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hoped there would be a common way of structuring it so that users can cross-apply knowledge :-( oh well < 1356698533 614026 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is actually defined a common way but it is only used for full-text search and it is not necessarily even going to be a search menu. < 1356698538 963155 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356698544 862034 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b66f6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are common ways (pl.) to do it < 1356698559 550021 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me some examples? < 1356698566 839773 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b66f6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have the standard get url encoding or json < 1356698569 870017 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b66f6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way < 1356698600 197649 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1356698602 776301 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm user-facing JSON? Boke < 1356698785 279140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: actually it was me who mathematica'ised it, they gave me a one year trial version of Mathematica (not even a permanent free copy!) to do the job with < 1356698797 359684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the resulting code was correct but an order of n slower than the Perl no matter how I tried to write it < 1356698807 252183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they had one of their in-house people do it, the resulting code was a lot shorter and also wrong < 1356698825 222149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I do indeed still have the Perl, although I wasn't nearly as good at programming then as I am now so it's a bit messy < 1356698827 880837 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard segfaults occurred < 1356698862 482848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, mathematica isn't very prone to segfaulting < 1356698871 370115 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm terrible at Perl too so I won't notice probably :o) < 1356698873 105357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had more segfaults from Perl (normally due to calling out to libraries written in C) < 1356698890 131087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern perl(1) gives a warning basically saying "don't write code like that, what are you thinking?" < 1356698908 949180 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1356698926 315385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the Perl not in the version on the Wolfram website, though? < 1356698928 413223 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b66f6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :provoking you to do it anyway < 1356698928 743948 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will notice < 1356698932 102889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC they just appended the mathematica to it < 1356698932 286997 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will complain about the perl forever < 1356698938 498363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than deleting the Perl < 1356698964 666425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: one of the EULA terms and conditions of Mathematica is that you have to credit it if you use it to help you write an academic paper < 1356698990 934496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this possibly had the opposite effect to what was intended, in that it caused me to avoid Mathematica until I'd already written the code in another language first, and ran the code only to gain an idea of how correct it was < 1356699000 456871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I think the 2,3 stuff predates Feather < 1356699011 573394 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so it is: the contents on the paper are a bit unclear < 1356699074 745807 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said something about that too (then we argued and he rageparted :-U) < 1356699275 538121 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it make sense if I use type 7 to allow users to insert data? < 1356699286 728542 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I use some other type < 1356699317 442117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: It is OK < 1356699323 343454 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can input data any other way in normal gopher < 1356699354 225849 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also others here who know about this) < 1356699422 579155 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1356699451 479359 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, enquiring minds want to know: do you still have a cool beard? < 1356699455 787063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356699462 387702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still looks much the same < 1356699480 90146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevertheless, gopher is not the best way to post data on the server; there are other protocols such as NNTP and FTP, for interactive systems you can use telnet, for secure systems you can use SSH. Gopher is a good way to provide structured read-only data, and possibly can allow some sending as well; I use a type 7 to allow sending comments. < 1356699515 780567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Only one line though; they are only short comments) < 1356699519 578141 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where you have comment system on gopher? < 1356699528 957802 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the sort of thing I was thinking about < 1356699555 887563 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also thinking about an inference system with a gopher interface < 1356699608 173167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: For example, phlog*a makes a list of messages; the type 1 lines list comments and allow posting a comment using type 7. < 1356699681 343275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: telnet has ssl nowadays < 1356699687 314198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although most clients and servers don't support it < 1356699701 537501 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO "has" then :-P < 1356699787 725794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I still think SSH provides better security though, than SSL does. But if you don't need SSH features then you can use telnet protocol. < 1356699977 1153 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: One kind of hack thing I have done, is that one of the programs serving over this gopher menu allows the user to send files; it requires to use the sprunge command-line tool though if you want to send files, and then the response is sent to my server, and if it not a duplicate, and the file format is correct, it will be accepted. < 1356700021 937409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a hack which requires presence of other computers (there may be other problems too), but it works for now. < 1356700045 786011 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b66f6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of working nails with a screwdriver but y not < 1356700207 598407 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does sprunge do? I didn't quite understand < 1356700210 206849 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356700258 218836 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: pastebin site < 1356700262 193066 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use it on command line via curl < 1356700272 945819 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it aliased as "sprunge" < 1356700282 198970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use my bash history < 1356700285 512200 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I just blah blah blah | sprunge | xclip < 1356700289 741360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :control-r sprunge then edit the commands as appropriate < 1356700300 356314 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1356700312 478576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: and yeah, sprunge is a pastebin site that can only be posted to via the API < 1356700318 371645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it naturally becomes programmer-heavy < 1356700350 350921 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you just send the paste ID to the gopher server and bob's your uncle < 1356700384 616228 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1356700438 448065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1356700569 541791 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1356700578 564961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With enough pipes it could send the paste ID (it accepts both the full URL (which sprunge responds with) or just the filename) to my computer using netcat. < 1356700652 665196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Simply prefix "quiz.menu*B" (without quotes) and a tab character, to the response from sprunge, and send that to port 70 on my computer.) < 1356700664 69083 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks useful for uploading files to HackEgo too < 1356700683 73782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose it can be used for those kind of things too. < 1356700916 857150 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1356700958 340105 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356701008 369531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's commonly used for BF Joust programs < 1356701018 230567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's EgoBot not HackEgo, but same principle < 1356701489 398654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356701593 845593 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356701684 996204 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356702638 428644 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1356702750 883827 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GopherVR looks kinda cool < 1356702817 798424 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although something about its layout doesn't seem to quite have the gopher nature? Can't put my finger on it < 1356702945 821003 :mekeor!~user@dslb-088-067-134-039.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356704084 274067 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: today, all my sentences on #nethack are three words long < 1356704095 603190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: :) < 1356704138 481505 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nick prefixes don't count) < 1356705689 288559 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1356706085 610715 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356707413 269181 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356707467 266506 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356710070 588971 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1356710348 583898 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1356710368 925259 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1356712073 414508 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bhx2-h-54-1.dab.02.net QUIT :Quit: hmm < 1356712129 47889 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356712360 184779 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1356712417 670112 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1356713101 804385 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1356713108 991820 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356714122 518731 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356714526 937601 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1356714688 165723 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356714717 665335 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356714717 887483 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356714717 887637 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356715070 52538 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1356715244 492478 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356715402 322973 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer JOIN :#esoteric < 1356716015 658970 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356716465 202350 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356717237 277107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1356717622 389613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and in dead cities, djikstra lies dreaming <-- nah he and chtuhlu are joining forces to create ubiquitous spell checking (also madness) < 1356717800 474953 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately Cthulhu prefers writing in COBOL so there are tensions on the project < 1356717825 725091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats GreyKnight for possibly missing the joke -----###
< 1356717894 193250 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION zaps oerjan with a cattle-prod "they both have difficult-to-spell names" -----E**
< 1356717915 205315 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1356717956 758170 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we're getting swatted for *possible* offences! This is intolerable < 1356717965 262520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "chtuhlu" gives thousands of google hits < 1356717971 354950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly intolerable < 1356717985 413369 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION intolerates it
< 1356718027 724980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as many as djikstra, though < 1356718067 284250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sokay, you're not meant to tolerate it < 1356718116 529894 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, i misordered the i and j < 1356718137 200418 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatsthejoke.gif < 1356718159 452789 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i thought i'd gotten used to the damn name < 1356718178 752176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're swaptose-intolerant? < 1356718183 782726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swattose. < 1356718193 692149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why do I always fail? < 1356718195 395153 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: used to ride at anchor. after a long and isolated family history a brother, his twin sister, and their realm for the others to stand back. he needed time to steady himself, and which fnord fancy and mathematics alike. it was dark. one evening as i strolled on victoria embankment for some needed air, i watched one of < 1356718215 920842 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ijk, in alphabetical order. Easy :-) < 1356718262 388915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dykestra. < 1356718720 476874 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did elliott not come back from ragequit yet? :-I < 1356718772 51507 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ragepart? < 1356718785 535151 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ragefoo < 1356718969 77246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you've driven him away again? < 1356719004 688158 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I do it before :-? < 1356719011 923552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the plural "you". < 1356719026 32406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including myself, I suppose. < 1356719047 189018 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "we" then :-P < 1356719349 296957 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356719369 21956 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356719369 207562 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356719532 189029 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356720448 290915 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1356720551 890289 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356720958 735202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/459/State-of-the-World-2013-Bruce-St-page01.html < 1356720974 979266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :State of the World 2013 with Bruce Sterling and friends < 1356721126 209501 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I forgot this place existed < 1356721183 352867 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey they talk about lenses ;-) < 1356721934 431830 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@75-163-28-244.dlth.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356722192 661090 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TLDR :-) < 1356723174 579380 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1356723923 836165 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Come back! Let's kiss and make up. < 1356723924 21731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1356724003 179654 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how was your day? < 1356724004 66698 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: the lovecraft library wishes to extend its gratitude to eulogio garc�a recalde for transcribing this text. he had been < 1356724015 963485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1356724019 68087 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1356724021 722077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Don't quote *that*. < 1356724023 923148 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: johansen and his men landed at a sloping fnord on this monstrous acropolis, and clambered fnord up over titan fnord blocks which could have caused the odd fnord on wonderful events by the emperor hadrian's greek fnord, phlegon. it is only fair to add that the specimens were laid out on the moor when it rains. their faces, knowing it was on thursday, 14 may 1908, were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. they had < 1356724033 940973 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Epic Megafail < 1356724077 20390 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1356724127 282465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't as bad as the file:// URI quote. < 1356724136 52753 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-80-1.dab.02.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356724169 492554 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356724863 592734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i'm looking for a haskell-like programming language, meaning that it supports nesting multi-line comments < 1356724867 384368 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :890) i'm looking for a haskell-like programming language, meaning that it supports nesting multi-line comments < 1356724895 755785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no fungot is talking about me < 1356724897 541284 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by noon carter reached the farthermost pile of embers and camped for the night was near. once a student of reanimation, this silent trunk was now gruesomely called upon to aid the private detectives. in this story, and as i looked again my recognition was mixed with a queer belated sort of remorse for bygone crudities. his drinking, of course, fall into several fnord some of it in wilbur whateley must have been there fo < 1356724914 264818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What was it like, landing on a sloping fnord of that monstrous acropolis? < 1356724915 171369 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: " for know you, that is, one would call it climbing if the thing did happen, then man must be there. < 1356724928 637181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps happening. < 1356724938 943149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: terrifying hth < 1356725023 229920 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356725057 345803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel as seen by fungot's mind's eye: http://sprunge.us/EIDc < 1356725058 460578 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: degradation of skill that nothing in the chaos that transcends form and force and symmetry. i learned whence cthulhu first came, and squire sawyer whateley, as fnord, the fnord of < 1356725136 850845 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1356725147 7112 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why do you sound like fungot < 1356725147 735002 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: of the latter and seated myself upon an aged, discolored gravestone close by the demon-star. < 1356725159 247840 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I suppose that was a bad test < 1356725245 643425 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did that mysterious second oerjan line com from????fungot < 1356725246 865144 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: there has been naught save ice and snow for thousands of years of blindness the impenetrable darkness of sin-steeped night the pitch-black darkness of fnord < 1356725257 389987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's where it came from. < 1356725263 339880 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does this trigger it < 1356725271 239235 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not will it annoy oerjan with beeps < 1356725278 154645 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: look at the http://sprunge.us/EIDc < 1356725291 590071 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw! I was trying to recreate :-/ < 1356725295 494145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's a known issue. < 1356725307 283727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happens quite rarely after fungot generates and excessively long sentence. < 1356725308 109269 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he acquired a habit of writing long documents of some sort. there were < 1356725308 707552 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz splain ty < 1356725318 605723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my client doesn't beep. < 1356725323 689081 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh, you can debug yourself now? < 1356725324 740199 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: one must look back at charles ward's earlier life as at something belonging as much to the past. i drew close and paused, and his visits were becoming fewer and fewer. when school closed the gardners were virtually cut off from the brow of the hill near its foot. it was very < 1356725326 591501 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not exactly sure what's wrong, but I suspect it is what they call a bug in the code. < 1356725344 894077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that a shell in the mind of a ghost, or something. < 1356725358 570117 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good thing is that fungot recognises he has acquired a habit of writing long texts. < 1356725359 712725 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: somewhere i heard a clock strike fnord ours, for that profession was nothing less than the tangible substance of earth's supreme terror the nightmare corpse-city of r'lyeh, that was the latin for " guards" and " horrid fnord" prejudice we find in its most advanced and horrible fnord and the < 1356725654 387675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ":oerjan!otr�a�@�s�oc����}v���nu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no fungot is " < 1356725654 611561 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character) < 1356725655 380175 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: faceless creatures now. he had grown as large as a child, although she is still unable to recall the speaker from ramblings, piece out scientific points which he knew had tilted both world and personal planes in throwing him back to 1883, contained those symbols which were meant. and now the moon came out. < 1356725674 549251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops those were not just spaces < 1356725688 209308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some bytes. < 1356725699 330999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ":oerjan!otr a @ s oc }v nu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no fungot is " < 1356725700 395051 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the region now entered by the police, satisfied that they had painted on the sides and fnord which made the professors so carelessly sceptical, for they never believed such things. ever since his son had commenced to provide. thomas moore adapted from such sources the legend of fnord, < 1356725700 823983 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 70 < 1356725720 698091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three bytes between "otr" and "a", and so on. < 1356725725 528824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not. < 1356725730 690983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1356725739 919552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my paste recoded into Unicode replacement-characters. < 1356725750 979838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they were likely single bytes originally. < 1356725771 87576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are so many BITS in SYSTEMS these days, I can't know if something could've gotten recoded. < 1356725771 958141 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "" < 1356725773 520708 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1356725781 855332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ":oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no fungot is " < 1356725782 694775 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: suddenly i rose, put on my hat and coat, and they have conquered." and, of course, very faint, and despite an age of waiting the vapours seemed to lighted, and in < 1356725783 366995 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 71 < 1356725784 61138 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "" == [] < 1356725784 245819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It came through two screen sessions and a paste, after all. < 1356725785 517528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1356725800 783561 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :""==[] looks like a weird face < 1356725814 710799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _seems_ to have just overwritten some of those < 1356725830 274814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [] :: [Char] < 1356725831 844515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "" < 1356725847 70688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I don't know with what, and why that screws up the splitting. < 1356725894 836634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The place where it generates things is a line, and there's nothing special or interesting on that line, so just generating a longer-that-can-be-output thing shouldn't overwrite anything important. < 1356725925 238022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could of course be the bit that generates the actual string out of the tokens, that's at least near the input, I think. But it's still a bit weird. < 1356725936 923585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's actually one of those characters that _is_ two bytes < 1356725966 847833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :between v and nu.no there are just 3 chars but g.nt is four < 1356725990 579126 :mekeor!~user@dslb-088-067-134-039.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356725996 845461 :mekeor`!~user@dslb-092-075-082-229.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356726100 344283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual bytes from screen hardcopy for interested parties: http://sprunge.us/aZOX < 1356726114 462070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mostly just fd. < 1356726154 742489 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356726229 47952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's missing a part. what i _do_ note is that the fizzie message proper seems completely unchanged, just shifted 71 places < 1356726252 499985 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-80-4.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1356726255 345352 :greyooze!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net NICK :GreyKnight < 1356726260 186750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what i'm wondering is if some x offset is not getting reset properly? < 1356726273 33936 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what we're saying is it's all fizzie's fault < 1356726289 95601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be any sort of thing in the code to split and copy IRC messages out of the input buffer it maintains. < 1356726301 272395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that doesn't explain why parts of the oerjan message are garbled _other_ than the overwritten part < 1356726307 963550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I haven't yet heard sensible hypotheses why it'd trigger only after babble-generation. < 1356726347 515027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you look at lines 125-169 of fungot.b98, that's all pretty clear code without any obvious mishaps there. < 1356726348 360027 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: " say, do i look that simple? what are you driving at?" and as he did < 1356726397 849175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1356726398 501143 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1356726433 638246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU SAY SO < 1356726466 936083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : So what we're saying is it's all fizzie's fault ← you can't do that, kerio is the designated scapegoat for everything < 1356726480 652832 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about daniel_t? < 1356726591 798533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was kerio again. < 1356726661 409190 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just zis guy < 1356726757 441168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: I'd link you to the qdb post but it's down < 1356726776 908840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it started off by talking about how kerio was a perfect scapegoat and why < 1356726791 741103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and followed up by saying that daniel_t wasn't a good scapegoat, but luckily that most of the problems with nethack 4 were actually his fault < 1356726794 914258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one wasn't needed :) < 1356726989 771657 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1356727210 161088 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1356727213 307322 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember now < 1356727491 639692 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a nethack 4? < 1356727510 478975 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try #nethack4 < 1356727538 862567 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i not < 1356727542 216709 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1356727568 51360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's the fans banding together to make an attempt at a successor to 3.4.3, because the main devs have abandoned it < 1356727578 722612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, to start with it was just me, but lots of people joined in < 1356727605 494527 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the notable changes? < 1356727613 358057 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is BASICALLY how NetHack started off from Hack, so, fair do's) < 1356727637 812280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was kind of wondering what ever happened to nethack, since, it hasn't updated since before i was born or w/e < 1356727674 560489 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-o < 1356727695 890546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you like 8 years old? < 1356727708 541640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so far, it's mostly interface and internals improvements < 1356727716 416393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i take it nethack and c-intercal development is doomed to merge now. < 1356727725 867966 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so the boring-but-important stuff. that's cool < 1356727753 259389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's about people being 8 years old on the channel today < 1356727765 547363 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL: the roguelike < 1356727772 731723 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rabbit hits! < 1356727819 575625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nah, I'm keeping NetHack and C-INTERCAL separate so far < 1356727823 919695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I might port C-INTERCAL to aimake < 1356727826 561300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_so_ far. < 1356727835 111421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no real reason to given that it has the best autotools build system ever < 1356727846 575173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me a while to understand autotools < 1356727851 169532 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, have the devs explicitely abandoned it, or has it just not been updated for 8 years? < 1356727852 609752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why people hardly ever use it properly < 1356727852 938774 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I noticed that ominous statement too < 1356727855 936666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: they're still working on it < 1356727864 984165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just they aren't getting very far < 1356727872 78637 :mekeor`!~user@dslb-092-075-082-229.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1356727876 667197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we know for a fact that they're a long way from producing a releasable version < 1356727881 531650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't know why, although there are some obvious guesses < 1356727892 307448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to know, because you have to buy information with bug reports < 1356727903 397616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1356727943 306062 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did we get the fact that they're a long way off? < 1356727955 55174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: like early 2012 < 1356728017 959400 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1356728030 766459 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did they say exactly? < 1356728034 901144 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is their message copied up anywhere? < 1356728041 560567 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is slowpoke
< 1356728088 204101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. you can't be slowpoke. ais523 already claimed that name. (hi fungot) < 1356728088 388281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1356728089 264793 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: kuranes came very suddenly upon his old world of childhood. he had even wondered, at sawyer's funeral, how the curse had been fulfilled since that time when charles le sorcier? the dread of years was lifted from my shoulder, for i fancied there was contained within it a sort of < 1356728115 510587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: people are a little uneasy about making private messages public, and I've only heard it secondhand < 1356728164 195781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember when I submitted a bug in the engraving code, and one of the devs replied saying that they'd been trying to persuade someone to fix it for months and got nowhere < 1356728166 351606 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fair enough < 1356728179 442623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can draw conclusions from that, too :) < 1356728191 301662 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so submit a patch to them, see if they'll use it? < 1356728200 716702 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I submitted a fix to the Qt port macro system many years ago and got a similar response, actually < 1356728218 976870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's not a trivial fix < 1356728222 595878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I fix it in NH4 < 1356728223 16608 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1356728228 921912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll submit them a patch against NH4 < 1356728249 956282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to be really snarky, quote back the line to them about making sure that everyone's working on the same version of the code < 1356728268 911024 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give them a link to the repository so they can sync up :-) < 1356728306 609942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you've changed something to get NetHack to run on your system, it's likely that others have done it by making slightly different modifications. By routing your patches through the development team, we should be able to avoid making everyone else choose among variant patches claiming to do the same thing, to keep most of the copies of 3.4 synchronized by means of official patches, and to maintain the painfully-created file organization. (This < 1356728308 63673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :process has been working since the time when everyone just posted their own patches to 2.3. At that time, there were no archived bug-fixes to give to people who got 2.3 after its initial release, so the same bugs kept being discovered by new batches of people.) We have been successful in preventing this from happening since the 3.0 release. Please cooperate to keep this from happening to 3.4. < 1356728356 838382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[…] All of this amounts to the following: If you decide to apply a free-lanced patch to your 3.4 code, you are on your own. In our own patches, we will assume that your code is synchronized with ours. < 1356728386 869974 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I think that is already happening to 3.4 actually < 1356728390 929788 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356728398 73437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: I quoted that for irony < 1356728435 651860 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rite < 1356728539 108593 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1356728667 774448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that suggestion of fixing the engraving stuff myself seems like a /really/ good idea < 1356728682 882146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be valuable enough to buy a lot more info < 1356728690 544435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammartree needs doing first < 1356728702 44846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least partly because the resulting patch needs to not cleanly apply to 3.4.3 < 1356728709 515701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the plan I have in mind < 1356728737 682634 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did ais523 just become an evil mastermind? < 1356728754 6886 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dibs on hunchback < 1356728762 391441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know; I've had evil mastermind-like qualities pretty much forever < 1356728765 341971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not actually evil < 1356728774 549492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that would be something of a prerequisite for being an evil mastermind < 1356728785 764860 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356728805 722146 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? We should test. Where's my evilometer... < 1356728807 99918 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356728834 364111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: just ask anyone who's known me for long enough < 1356728842 103856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm as close to lawful good as you'll find in real life, really < 1356728845 863296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the insufferability :) < 1356728958 809689 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Us LG types make the best evil masterminds if we turn evil :-) < 1356729028 805719 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are LG people capable of driving in the US? < 1356729042 852029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: many of us refuse to visit the US < 1356729050 769879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we were there, though, I don't see why we wouldn't drive < 1356729058 312803 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that I've heard that it's impossible to safely drive at or below the speed limit on US highways < 1356729059 182202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, assuming that we drove in general (I don't, don't have the coordination to) < 1356729068 659859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that < 1356729074 472030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed limits are kind of pointless anyway < 1356729109 210403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the UK you can, but you basically have to crawl along the outside lane and pretend to be a tourist or a lorry < 1356729111 798701 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are LG people? People using products from LG Electronics? < 1356729115 37291 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wat < 1356729116 421988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, lawful good. < 1356729119 439197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lawful good, it's a D&D thing < 1356729131 826052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't uppercased, I didn't manage to glimpse it. < 1356729140 93521 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: in the US it's usual to drive five or ten miles above the limit. < 1356729149 249130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sufficiently many HGVs in the UK are physically incapable of going over the speed limit that people are used to the possibility < 1356729162 638308 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what, they've mistaken it for a *lower* limit? < 1356729182 75460 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, miles + mph = ? < 1356729190 267175 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bite me, sgeo. < 1356729199 652349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very possible to drive at the speed limit in Finland, FWIW. You'll get a reasonable number of slightly miffed motorists thinking you're a wuss, I suppose, but it's still possible. < 1356729224 55194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's basically the UK situation < 1356729228 485969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you might be contributing negatively to overall road safety due to needless overtaking, but still. < 1356729273 534932 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: this gives me one more reason never to go to the USA, I didn't need one but thanks :-P < 1356729318 795649 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight, I don't know if the US situation is worse than the UK/Finland situation < 1356729321 613433 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never driven < 1356729327 602087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I've also heard that it's impossible to not drive in the US < 1356729332 602305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or live with someone who can drive you around < 1356729332 782337 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356729341 371453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-226-214.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: going over the speed limits isn't the real problem in the US, it's that driving ed is rather lax. < 1356729344 310550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in most areas, everything is so spread out < 1356729345 481568 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boke < 1356729348 686814 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boke boke boke < 1356729364 595079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, it was recently discovered that speed cameras cost more to run than the revenue they bring in, in the UK < 1356729369 21326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone was surprised < 1356729371 399294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were kind of thinking of doing a "fly to east coast, drive to west coast, fly back" kind of a trip maybe once, but the driving there has sounded kind of unappealing, and anyway it's a long flight. < 1356729405 580363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and you have the problem of the car ending up somewhere other than where it started < 1356729413 707324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is one of the main advantages of buses, btw < 1356729415 182740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1356729419 692558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think rental car corporations can deal with that? < 1356729424 914824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can in Finland, though it costs extra. < 1356729456 43384 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1356729492 365324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or it may cost extra in some cases, I'm not entirely certain about that.) < 1356729521 197856 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe then can get two such customers: one to drive it from east to west, one from west to east < 1356729523 887616 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved! < 1356729528 998397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's sometimes ads about "drive this car from X to Y for me" things that you might be able to use if you're really lucky. < 1356729541 114781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was one in the billboard at the university the other month. < 1356729602 430391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the deal was that you paid for the gas but nothing for the car, while the person who needed to move the car didn't have to (a) pay for gas, or (b) spend time going where the car was going, which sounded reasonably fair. < 1356729627 312457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't already a website to match up things like that. < 1356729667 631926 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356729885 44380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t unless < 1356729886 407343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => Bool -> m () -> m () < 1356730071 629885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1356730539 181568 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-10.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1356730732 16016 :buffer!~buffer@about/security/buffer PART :#esoteric < 1356730734 494173 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356730996 740764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you write some polyphonic music today? < 1356731085 510291 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356731091 116700 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356731189 115267 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a midi that I named "polyphonic" because it made the polyphonic meter on my MIDI player go up < 1356731223 99035 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I didn't I'm sorry D-: < 1356731311 162949 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember I found that piece of music's name once < 1356731319 926496 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've seen the video on YouTube < 1356731919 303113 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unless true (Just 3 < 1356731923 985203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1356731925 22254 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unless true (Just 3) < 1356731929 96258 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1356732559 489526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t true < 1356732574 720543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `true' < 1356732618 82268 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> true < 1356732624 181091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1356732624 365294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1356732626 496214 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t :t < 1356732637 928925 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `:' < 1356732763 940815 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unless True $ Just 3 < 1356732769 332780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1356732785 746032 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unless True $ Just () < 1356732791 831333 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1356732792 15115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1356732844 548720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> True < 1356732850 130124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1356732854 682283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working well there. < 1356732855 933253 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot............................. < 1356732860 77589 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1356732865 964907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1356732872 310573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is a tricky number. < 1356732877 363074 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 < 1356732882 324508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1356732882 508622 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try an easier one < 1356732946 494323 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1356733047 702178 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unsafeExceedTimeLimit < 1356733054 396148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1356733054 585161 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1356733152 260453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think lambdabot needs a rest. < 1356733183 151677 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a lie-down in a darkened room for while < 1356734969 854313 :greyooze!~GK@82.132.249.212 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356734990 493994 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356734990 677765 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356734990 677905 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356735072 508040 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-bhx2-h-59-3.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1356735085 238102 :greyooze!~GK@82.132.249.212 NICK :GreyKnight < 1356735221 875052 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1356735544 983631 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356735569 437234 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1356735569 621204 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-88.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1356735569 621359 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1356735996 915287 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356736035 228087 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 QUIT :Changing host < 1356736035 412048 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1356736462 305780 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1356736468 868985 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1356737082 165042 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1356737089 896099 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1356737389 511567 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are audio dramas of SG-1 < 1356737408 217139 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1356737620 912554 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1356737816 590810 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-77-171.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356738194 612898 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-20-112-94.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1356738412 33235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If it were not for a jump in the number of Apple products stolen, New York City crime would be down this year, officials said." < 1356738422 590744 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@63.91.27.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1356738559 444171 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it's up, then < 1356738569 678804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1356738586 953297 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-U < 1356738628 94708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iCrime