00:00:15 <nooga> I'm proud to host a new year's eve for a number of people, including Rolf Henrik and Thomas Monrad Erlandsen
00:00:40 <nooga> and I'm more than sure that they will outdrink me tonight
00:03:12 <oerjan> elliott: he's abducted some norwegians, clearly
00:03:21 <oerjan> and are forcing them to drink
00:03:49 <nooga> i think they will kill me for another one tbh
00:07:30 <fizzie> High-voltage alcohol sounds dangerous.
00:09:30 <nooga> high voltage is 40%-60%
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00:10:04 <nooga> you should know, as a Finnish
00:11:10 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: gross we're no longer friends
00:11:15 <nooga> Phantom_Hoover: puke instntly
00:11:39 <monqy> i've never had the champagne
00:11:51 <Phantom_Hoover> elliott, it's not my fault i was forced to drink it from an early age
00:11:58 <nooga> are you seriosu monqy ?
00:12:24 <nooodl> i've never had the champagne either...
00:13:09 <nooga> hagb4rd: cheers nolifes
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00:18:54 <GreyKnight> hm I'm not sure what to do with this year
00:19:16 <nooga> make it 2x more awesome than the previous one
00:19:58 <fizzie> If you eat it, nobody else will have it.
00:20:00 <nooodl> idea: a rot13-like cypher that rot10-encodes the consonants and rot3-encodes the vowels: http://codepad.org/wX3YL1lI
00:21:49 <GreyKnight> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Numberwang_%28brainfuck_derivative%29
00:22:15 <Bike> is meant to produce code that appears extremely random and impossible to understand
00:22:24 <nooodl> increment (increase by one)
00:22:58 <nooodl> it's literally the most boring esolang and this is coming from the guy who made zeptobasic
00:25:18 <fizzie> I thought Numberwang was something else... wait, that's a different Numberwang?
00:25:57 <GreyKnight> there is also http://esolangs.org/wiki/Numberwang
00:26:13 <ais523> fizzie: it's a spoof gameshow
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00:26:51 <fizzie> I know (FSVO) of that, but I was thinking of that other esolang.
00:28:44 <elliott> it's not really a "spoof gameshow" given that it isn't actually a real gameshow
00:31:13 <monqy> like a spoof but it's just in your head
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00:53:14 <HackEgo> 587) <elliott> fizzie: It's like a JIT, if JITs were... strings.
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01:05:21 <fizzie> Huh, weird. This popular Finnish computers-etc. shop is selling fancy Norwegian bottled water.
01:06:32 <fizzie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voss_(water) "three blindfolded wine experts rated Voss water lowest of the six waters tested, which included Helsinki public tap water" but why would you ask a wine expert to test water?
01:07:21 <Jafet> They couldn't find bottled water experts
01:07:39 <fizzie> I suppose we're such a small place, that might be difficult.
01:07:46 <fizzie> I'm sure there are some American bottled water experts.
01:07:50 <elliott> gosh, a sample size of *three*
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01:08:37 <fizzie> The funniest, these guys are speaking of the waters just like I imagine they'd be speaking of wines.
01:08:41 <fizzie> Sadly, the article is in Finnish.
01:09:01 <kmc> happy megasecond 1357!
01:09:13 <fizzie> "Secondary water is pretty much translucent spring day in suitable adjectives, such as fresh and bright and tangy, thinking about the new house." Yeah, there's something lost in translation there, I'd say.
01:10:39 <oerjan> `frink 1357 megaseconds -> year
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01:11:57 <fizzie> Party like it's 1357e6?
01:12:14 <oerjan> megaseconds are a bit short for partying
01:12:44 <oerjan> `frink 1 megasecond -> days
01:12:53 <HackEgo> 625/54 (approx. 11.574074074074074)
01:13:11 <fizzie> At least you can have a party reasonably often.
01:13:20 <nooga> why are you people such nerds
01:13:26 <fizzie> (Or maybe a megasecond-long party?)
01:13:40 <oerjan> nooga: shush, you are still drunk
01:13:40 <elliott> fizzie: "thinking about the new house"
01:14:14 <nooga> I'm completely capable of understanding you all
01:14:28 <oerjan> you are not half as think as we drunk you are?
01:14:29 <nooga> I had a great time tonight
01:14:41 <fizzie> elliott: Actually, the guy's surname is "Uusitalo", lit. "Newhouse".
01:14:53 <nooga> half as we you think
01:14:53 <elliott> fizzie: fuck you for ruining that for m
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01:28:34 <GreyKnight> is nooga drunk enough to start creating BF derivatives :-I
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01:40:07 <oerjan> when your brain cannot be usefully distinguished from a brick, you are drunk enough
01:41:19 <nooga> I think you underestimate my capabilities
01:41:44 <kmc> `frink 1 year -> second
01:42:14 <nooga> i have to throw my macbook at my brother
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01:46:59 <ais523> fizzie: oh wow, the plot for anticipation2's tape position heatmap is neat
01:47:01 <ais523> you can see the tripwires
01:58:15 <lambdabot> `>>' (imported from Control.Monad.Writer),
02:00:01 <oerjan> Jafet: i was (implausibly) checking if the new pipes library had been imported to lambdabot
02:01:44 <oerjan> because you don't like pipes, or because you think lambdabot should be restricted to ubiquitous stuff?
02:02:18 <elliott> I like lens in lambdabot, not convinced any sort of pipey conduity library would be useful
02:06:43 <kmc> loud pipes save lives
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02:31:21 <fungot> oerjan: mr president, commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, changing this matter could be formalised because cuba was not present in a special group, namely girls and women in these countries.
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02:53:38 <hagb4rd> it would be nice if fungot were able to learn something by talking to people in the channel. we could implement some simple heuristics and a few syntax patterns like statements (e.g.: "bood is red"; "red is a color"), or conditionals like ("if you jump into water, you get wet") etc
02:53:40 <fungot> hagb4rd: mr president, commissioner, first may i also ask you to think a little about it coming as i do with the fact that parliament now has a 220 fnord middle class and is responsible for coordinating humanitarian aid to the economic and monetary affairs, on the current debate raging in america, the philippines. while protesting peacefully against the erection of a fnord military force ( article 17 of the eu' s member states
02:54:38 <Bike> the erection of a fnord military force sounds like a grevious matter indeed.
02:54:39 <hagb4rd> with time fungot could be able to make relations between objects/verbs
02:54:41 <fungot> hagb4rd: madam president, by way of question, is that this parliament has always shown willingness to set up a new method of certification was also introduced, which caused extremely widespread damage, both to restate and to demand access to medical care.' the states: ' we must continue with these meetings for as long as it is that future action will include an examination of the current council presidency's suggestion that we
02:54:52 <Bike> "let's use a neural network"
02:55:49 <hagb4rd> but maybe less sophisticated
02:56:21 <Bike> a dendrite network
02:56:32 <hagb4rd> i'd like the idea of starting it from scratch at least for training/learning issues
02:58:11 <hagb4rd> and keep things at basic level
03:00:15 <kmc> a neural network wired to a support vector machine wired to a fractal genetic algorithm wired to a guy in Bangladesh who gets 3¢ for each right answer
03:00:24 <fizzie> I'd just import Mentifex's AI MIND into it if it came to that.
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03:01:41 <hagb4rd> @google Mentifex's AI MIND
03:01:42 <lambdabot> http://www.nothingisreal.com/mentifex_faq.html
03:01:42 <lambdabot> Title: The Arthur T. Murray/Mentifex FAQ
03:03:16 <hagb4rd> "Murray claims that Mind is an artificial mind which is capable of thought, sentience, and linguistic communication. At the moment, however, it does not appear to do anything except spew meaningless and ungrammatical strings of words." <-- doesn't sound promising at all
03:03:19 <Bike> i'm always disappointed that the full glory of his TLD proposal isn't on there
03:03:37 <Bike> hagb4rd: nonsense, he's already up to the latest in befunge-oriented ircbot engineering
03:04:04 <fizzie> fungot: Say something meaningful.
03:04:05 <fungot> fizzie: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, i would like to say to the honourable member who appealed for a special unit for work-related health problems in general.
03:04:53 <Bike> that's... I think I could diagram that as grammatical! better get to work mister ifex
03:05:09 <fungot> hagb4rd: madam president, the commission's communication also deals with the social and cultural life. the issue that mr sacrdeus is addressing. it has not been accepted, and we must follow the path which more than ever the development of an external strategy for areas in the european union
03:05:18 <Phantom_Hoover> fizzie, man, that thing's from a time when 'meme' wasn't common parlance
03:05:21 <fungot> hagb4rd: mr president, a more efficient organisation for fighting against poverty and social exclusion are other issues.
03:05:26 <ais523> hmm, when's the last time the president of the EU was a woman?
03:05:56 <ais523> fizzie: also, is fungot in europarl mode rigged to always start "mr president" or "madam president"?
03:05:57 <fungot> ais523: madam president, it is because too much ground has been given by parliament to the conclusions of the european union
03:06:05 <ais523> or doe sit just do that because most of the sentences start like that?
03:06:17 <oerjan> ais523: i'd assume that's the president of the parliament
03:06:28 <ais523> oerjan: hmm, which might be a different person?
03:06:31 <elliott> I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was never
03:06:32 <fizzie> ais523: Not "rigged", it's just a natural consequence of the model. And it's not quite always.
03:06:35 <Bike> fungot: i ain't the president of nothing mother fucker
03:06:36 <ais523> but I didn't realise it was that confusing
03:06:36 <fungot> Bike: mr president, i close my eyes and i had better not give in to the blackmail which says " if we do so.
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03:06:49 <oerjan> ais523: i'm pretty sure they recently changed the system to add at least one more president
03:07:40 <oerjan> ais523: there were _3_ EU presidents accepting the nobel prize this year :P
03:08:08 <oerjan> one was the parliament one, which was the one i didn't know
03:08:12 <ais523> oerjan: so basically, the rule of the EU
03:08:18 <ais523> is that you make everyone a president
03:08:21 <oerjan> then there were barroso and rompuy[sp?]
03:08:24 <fizzie> I don't have a script for back-converting (or dumping models, or enough awakeness to peek at the binary data), otherwise I'd check the actual probabilities of starting with that.
03:08:31 <ais523> so that you can use "mr president" or "madam president" despite not knowing their names
03:08:42 <ais523> I imagine it could be awkward if you didn't know their genders (or if they weren't gender-binary people)
03:08:55 <oerjan> barroso is the president of the commision iirc
03:09:12 <oerjan> and rompuy is the new kind, who is sort of coordinating or something
03:09:16 <Bike> is there a preferred honorific in place for our first nonbinary president?
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03:09:56 <Bike> isn't that too much like "sir", though
03:10:10 <fizzie> It's in use, for some values of use.
03:10:11 <oerjan> but anyway, since fungot is doing parliament speeches i assume e is referring to the president of the parliament.
03:10:12 <fungot> oerjan: mr president, you are interpreting the text in front of the cars on fnord -the requirement that fuel consumption data be included in an annex to our rules of procedure, and so it is with specific reference to the fact that with this resolution.
03:10:30 <GreyKnight> hagb4rd: not sure, I know a few human beings who could be described that way
03:11:02 <hagb4rd> GreyKnight: what do you mean?
03:14:06 <oerjan> "There have been twenty-eight Presidents since the Parliament was created in 1952, thirteen of whom have served since the first Parliamentary election in 1979. Two Presidents have been women and most have come from the older member states."
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03:15:33 <greyooze> hagb4rd: "At the moment, however, it does not appear to do anything except spew meaningless and ungrammatical strings of words."
03:15:48 <oerjan> Simone Veil 1979-1983, Nicole Fontaine 1999-2002
03:15:57 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
03:16:03 <fungot> Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006)
03:16:15 <oerjan> that would appear to be the latter, then
03:16:25 <hagb4rd> you should know that the president of the E.U. is just the guy shaking many hands having no power at all
03:16:38 <Bike> "guy", you say
03:16:51 <oerjan> hagb4rd: that's probably rompuy then
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03:19:43 <oerjan> oh my mistake, the EU actually has _four_ presidents, one of them just wasn't at the nobel award
03:19:54 <Phantom_Hoover> hagb4rd, don't eat the lies! the president's hand is implanted with a small taser to keep the heads of state in line
03:19:57 <oerjan> or wasn't speaking, anyway
03:20:40 <oerjan> one of them is a country, not a person :P
03:21:57 <fizzie> mr:0.598 madam:0.143 i:0.069 the:0.051 we:0.011 and the other 335 possible initial words have frequencies <1%.
03:22:17 <oerjan> and also there's three of them, the current, previous and next one
03:22:19 <fizzie> (Disclaimer: fungot might be implementing the selection algorithm wrong.)
03:22:20 <fungot> fizzie: various points should be made very clear and strict regulations would eliminate the southern states. these questions can be summarised as follows: the council should accept the wonderful job done by the spanish fleet. it began to fish scorpion fish gallineta in spanish in november and december of 1995 that the commission will work with optimum efficiency. that is why we welcome the debate which arose out of turkey' s po
03:22:56 <monqy> fungot...you got cut off....
03:22:57 <fungot> monqy: mr president, adoption of the common organization of the market in question. the incoming irish presidency if it has binding legal status its content must, of course, that we can support the report, namely paragraph 59, in particular the idea that only a rigorous budgetary framework set until 2006, because there are regions, such as whether the threshold should be higher than the ospar value, to wit, the burden of proof
03:23:12 <fungot> mlsqn: mr president, i would like to take this opportunity of describing to you on behalf of the committee on budgets. on 17 february, it was also agreed to draw up a policy for the pharmaceutical industry is essential for europe to maintain a balance between the united states
03:23:45 <fizzie> "various" has a frequency of approximately 0.000059834. (1/16713, to be exact.)
03:24:41 <oerjan> wait it may not actually be previous and next, but ... darn it.
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03:25:20 <elliott> fizzie: why is it mlsqn...
03:25:58 <monqy> elliott: that corruption thing that happens sometimes when it cuts off(that's why i said fungot i wanted the corruptions)
03:25:59 <fungot> monqy: mr president, on behalf of mr bertens our distinguished rapporteur on cyprus. peace and tranquillity in the balkans. and then the uk. in each case. we are living in direct danger and fear, are being prevented from taking what in a lot of energy can contribute towards our progress to date in ireland under the community support frameworks, when we ought to remind ourselves of the appalling attack on madrid, which is not be
03:26:07 <fizzie> Because the message was sent by "mlsqn!~oe:monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net".
03:26:16 <oerjan> there's an 18-month trio, each country of which is president for 6 months.
03:26:27 <fizzie> Europarl is probably the most likely dataset to cause corruption, APPROPRIATELY ENOUGH.
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03:28:47 <Jafet> fungot for president
03:28:48 <fungot> Jafet: mr president, i would like to remind the commission, we also said that it would be useful if the presidency explained this to him personally and have it recognized in the european union's democratic principles like any other place such as algeciras to mention the kyoto objective, to which he replied that he could reply that the commission has recently put forward a number of years to cover their repayment. this is in pla
03:28:55 <hagb4rd> which actually means that country pay the bills at the cocktail-parties in this period
03:29:07 <Jafet> fungot five president
03:29:08 <fungot> Jafet: mr president, commissioner vitorino, feel really has been somewhat abandoned by the world health organisation claims. this is the cornerstone of the union institutions will respond in a moment. i would therefore ask you to look into the matter once and for all purposes should be deducted from capital to prevent the influx and concentration of the population, together with a sensible judicial system. we take your words to
03:30:56 <hagb4rd> fungot: tell me about politics
03:30:57 <fungot> hagb4rd: mr president, i think it is much less willing to bow to the majority of the people who suffer from genetic and other medical centres. over six million diagnoses are made annually in europe.
03:31:26 <fizzie> http://sprunge.us/fGjM look at it go.
03:31:45 <oerjan> those horrible genetic centres
03:32:35 <Jafet> We need medical centres for medical centres
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03:40:51 <fizzie> For comparison, most likely opening words for ^style irc: i:0.108 POPAREN:0.028 the:0.028 and:0.027 you:0.026 but:0.025 it:0.025 what:0.021 it's:0.019 so:0.018 i'm:0.017 that:0.015 if:0.014 UNK:0.014 that's:0.012 PODQUOT:0.010 is:0.010 how:0.010 and then it goes <1%.
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03:43:23 <fungot> Jafet: ladies and gentlemen, i would ask the commission to make proposals for further improvement. but, madam president-in-office of the council, making way for his opponent and probably lawfully elected successor, vojislav kostunica, without any opportunity to present his views on these legal issues.
03:43:49 <Jafet> @google vojislav kostunica
03:43:51 <lambdabot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vojislav_Ko%C5%A1tunica
03:43:51 <lambdabot> Title: Vojislav Koštunica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
03:44:13 <fizzie> I may have to sleeb, it's 05:44am already in here.
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03:52:39 <Jafet> Weep for the sleek
03:54:12 <fungot> Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself)
03:54:24 <fungot> Jafet: perhaps, if i could but learn is when you're fairies, you know, that thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's
03:55:37 <Jafet> I wonder what fungot converges to.
03:55:38 <fungot> Jafet: or is it just me, or i: yet, you rogue!
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05:02:03 <kmc> happy EST new year!
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05:12:55 <kmc> don't fuck a wood chipper
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06:40:23 <kmc> yes indeed
06:40:31 <HackEgo> 302) <crystal-cola> (im not a lawyer) <crystal-cola> (im just making stuff up
06:40:36 <HackEgo> 688) <zzo38> Yes, it is true; I don't really like PHP either.
06:40:40 <HackEgo> 6) <oerjan> what, you mean that wasn't your real name? <Warrigal> Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that.
06:40:43 <HackEgo> 692) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I want
06:40:45 <HackEgo> 451) <fungot> elliott: an old colonel lost, but a new brother gained. together they will ascend, each time you must be adventurin'.
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07:19:37 <monqy> did 692 get cut off
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11:02:49 <HackEgo> 2013-01-01.txt:06:40:43: <HackEgo> 692) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phanto
11:05:12 <hagb4rd> `pastelog Did I mention when I want
11:05:27 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4822
11:09:56 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
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11:44:01 <HackEgo> ? \ @ \ ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ \ addquote \ allquotes \ anonlog \ calc \ define \ delquote \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ google \ hatesgeo \ interp \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ karma \ karma- \ karma+ \ learn \ log \ logurl \ lua \ luac \ luarocks \ luarocks-admin \ macro \ maketext \ marco \ No \ pastaquote \ paste \ pastefortune
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11:58:58 <HackEgo> bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ ibins \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ luafilesystem-1.6.2-1.rockspec \ luafilesystem-1.6.2-1.src.rock \ luarocks.err \ luarocks.out \ paste \ penlight-1.0.0-1.rockspec \ penlight-1.0.0-1.src.rock \ quotes \ quotese \ share \ wisdom
11:59:45 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access bin > help.txt: No such file or directory
12:00:25 <HackEgo> paste.10030 \ paste.1009 \ paste.1013 \ paste.1014 \ paste.10183 \ paste.10198 \ paste.10249 \ paste.10325 \ paste.10348 \ paste.10378 \ paste.10571 \ paste.10590 \ paste.10605 \ paste.10757 \ paste.10835 \ paste.10941 \ paste.10997 \ paste.11095 \ paste.11100 \ paste.11140 \ paste.11204 \ paste.11295 \ paste.11427 \ paste.11437 \ paste.11439 \ pas
12:00:43 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access bin > /paste/help.txt: No such file or directory
12:01:06 <hagb4rd> `ls bin >| /paste/help.txt
12:01:07 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access bin >| /paste/help.txt: No such file or directory
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12:34:40 <hagb4rd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7AsYxY6nz4 <-- good ol` caleb quotes
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17:45:18 <nortti> "We have DOS, Windows, OS/2, XENIX, and NT. It's Microsoft against Microsoft against Microsoft against Microsoft."
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17:50:12 <Sgeo> Ugh, I commented on my Tumblr, it isn't showing up
17:50:24 <Sgeo> I think maybe the Javascript won't show comments that look like they're from the future?
17:50:43 <Sgeo> Because my computer's clock is a bit slow, when I initially posted it said "in 3 minutes"
17:50:59 <Taneb> You the Sgeo who posts about Lisp?
17:51:28 <Sgeo> I've posted about Common Lisp and Clojure
17:51:56 <Sgeo> Ok, my comment is flat out not showing up
17:52:03 <Sgeo> Taneb, do you mean sgeo.tumblr.com ? That's me
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17:53:22 <Sgeo> It's not intended to be specifically about lisps
17:53:23 <Taneb> You now have one more follower!
17:53:56 <Sgeo> It's pretty much any programming stuff. If I become reinterested in Haskell and newly obsessed with Opa, that's what I'd be talking about
17:54:22 <Sgeo> (Note: Opa is currently not a strong candidate for language obsession)
17:56:53 <Sgeo> Dear Disqus: I would like to see my own comment please
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18:05:46 <FreeFull> nortti: Well, Microsoft did work a bit on OS/2 but after that it was all IBM
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18:16:40 <Taneb> Sgeo, it makes a pleasant change from the Homestuck and Adventure Time currently filling my dash
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19:02:36 * Sgeo hits Taneb with a Racket dye pack
19:02:42 <Sgeo> (dye packs are a thing in Racket)
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19:05:05 <Sgeo> elliott, I am easily amused.
19:05:19 <Sgeo> Nothing wrong with being easily amused, right?
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19:10:41 <oerjan> 05:06:13: <elliott> fuck life
19:10:41 <oerjan> 05:06:17: <elliott> fuck everything
19:10:54 <oerjan> i'm afraid that's illegal in most countries, elliott
19:13:42 <HackEgo> 692) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I want
19:14:04 <oerjan> `quote 692 | fmt -w300 | tail -1
19:14:19 <oerjan> `quote 692 | fmt -w300 | tail -2
19:14:27 <oerjan> `run quote 692 | fmt -w300 | tail -1
19:14:29 <HackEgo> can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I wanted to become a locksmith?
19:15:43 <oerjan> Gregor: maybe HackEgo needs a `more command like lambdabot
19:17:31 <elliott> that quote used to display just fine in full
19:18:28 <oerjan> hm and HackEgo doesn't have a particularly long nick!uname@hostname
19:18:51 <oerjan> `run quote 692 | fmt -w400
19:18:54 <HackEgo> 692) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I want
19:19:07 <oerjan> it doesn't even reach 400
19:19:38 <elliott> I don't know why it's become overconservative lately. perhaps something to do with Gregor making it not mishandle Unicode
19:19:41 <oerjan> @tell Gregor HackEgo cuts off lines too soon
19:22:17 <Taneb> Is there a way to pipe stderr onwards?
19:22:32 <ais523> Taneb: 2>&1 merges stderr and stdout
19:22:42 <ais523> you can do tricks with named pipes if you need separate control over stdout and stderr
19:22:51 <Taneb> How do I use that mysterious collection of characters
19:23:00 <ais523> command 2>&1 | another_command
19:25:07 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24765
19:25:56 <oerjan> 692) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I wanted to become a locksmith?
19:26:30 <oerjan> ok it's definitely HackEgo which cuts it off, not freenode
19:26:57 <elliott> well its cutting got changed recently
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19:29:21 <fizzie> Exactly 350 characters in the cut message body.
19:29:36 <fizzie> Then again, fungot is even more strict, IIRC.
19:29:37 <fungot> fizzie: is that something you know and and the cases that required to actually mutate the original ( sorted, perhaps, it may be said that particularly here, parliament will give a single instance,
19:29:51 <oerjan> @tell hagb4rd HackEgo ` doesn't do shell stuff like pipes and redirection unless you start with `run
19:29:53 <fungot> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ...too much output!
19:30:09 <fungot> shachaf: use the ' ' ' delete a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there it is, in case he doesn't want you to the ancients, right. some numbers is disguising them so the user gets a frob, which is the bit-reversal of the statement is encountered, it is also readily than they use over there
19:30:32 <fungot> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ...
19:31:11 <oerjan> @tell hagb4rd specifically, without run everything after the command name gets sent as a single, undivided string argument
19:31:31 <HackEgo> ls: cannot access bin/run: No such file or directory
19:32:54 <oerjan> so `run isn't an ordinary command, although it could easily have been made one...
19:34:11 <shachaf> oerjan: `run is built into the bot, not an ordinary command.
19:34:45 * oerjan swats shachaf -----###
19:35:24 <olsner> is `run built in or an ordinary command?
19:35:33 <elliott> `run echo "#!/bin/sh" >bin/run; echo 'bash -c "$@"' >>bin/run; chmod +x bin/run
19:35:38 * oerjan hits olsner with the saucepan ===\__/
19:35:48 <elliott> `bin/run echo hi; echo bye
19:35:52 <shachaf> oerjan: Hey, how come I never get the saucepan treatment?
19:36:08 <oerjan> shachaf: because you'd enjoy it too much.
19:36:11 <elliott> @tell Gregor You can remove the special-casing of the `run command; I added a bin/run that behaves equivalently.
19:36:20 <elliott> @tell Gregor (Come to think of it, can't you implement `fetch inside the bot too?)
19:36:37 <shachaf> The bot has an Internet connection?
19:36:41 <elliott> @tell Gregor (And `help, though that would make reverting an rm -r more annoying since you'd have to dig up the URL. (Probably not a problem.))
19:36:52 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
19:37:17 <shachaf> `run mkdir -p run/bin/; cp bin/run run/bin/
19:38:06 <oerjan> elliott: iirc `fetch is less stringent about what is permitted to connect to than the sandbox
19:38:29 <oerjan> which iirc has a whitelist of web sites
19:43:13 <oerjan> <Sgeo> Nothing wrong with being easily amused, right? <-- depends. does your laughter make people cringe?
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20:09:48 <Sgeo> I think I'm more likely to write unit tests with Racket than with any other language, merely because of how easy it is to intersperse tests with the rest of the code
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20:19:05 <zzo38> The VCR/DVD I have will not correct the aspect ratio when playing DivX.
20:19:22 <zzo38> (The frame skip functions also don't work with DivX)
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20:25:33 <zzo38> Is there a writer monad on a category of relations? I think so; fmap/join/return is easily defined. Does the monad laws followed? You can then define =<< from that too (note: =<< here is a functor, not a relation, though)
20:25:50 <zzo38> You said Prolog is using relations, so therefore can it be used with Prolog?
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20:35:49 <zzo38> I don't care about the Institution.
20:36:17 <zzo38> I do want to see if it can be used with Prolog, or with category of relation in general.
20:43:48 <zzo38> I think it does follow monad laws.
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21:02:03 <Gregor> elliott, oerjan: FUCK YOU GUYS
21:02:04 <lambdabot> Gregor: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
21:02:10 <lambdabot> oerjan said 1h 42m 29s ago: HackEgo cuts off lines too soon
21:02:10 <lambdabot> elliott said 1h 25m 59s ago: You can remove the special-casing of the `run command; I added a bin/run that behaves equivalently.
21:02:10 <lambdabot> elliott said 1h 25m 50s ago: (Come to think of it, can't you implement `fetch inside the bot too?)
21:02:10 <lambdabot> elliott said 1h 25m 29s ago: (And `help, though that would make reverting an rm -r more annoying since you'd have to dig up the URL. (Probably not a problem.))
21:02:14 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: friends: not found
21:02:41 <Gregor> If HackEgo is cutting off lines shorter than it was previously, I have NO idea how or why.
21:02:50 <Gregor> Having `run be in the environment is a profoundly bad idea.
21:03:09 <Gregor> Right now, the proxy isn't even up, because it was unreliable as shit, and it whitelisted things anyway.
21:03:25 <Gregor> The only reason I wanted `help outside the bot is so that the URL would never get scrubbed.
21:03:49 <elliott> what's wrong with `run being in the env
21:04:45 <Gregor> `run rm bin/run # fix this without `run or `revert
21:05:39 <elliott> isn't the point of `revert for when people do something idiotic and fuck things up :P
21:06:32 <Gregor> Point is, you can't make `run from a fresh environment. An empty environment is unusable without `run. Admittedly we don't have an empty environment, but I don't like the notion that you can't start from scratch.
21:06:54 <elliott> Gregor: well i can think of a way to do it
21:07:05 <HackEgo> wget: unable to resolve host address `run.invalid'
21:07:16 <elliott> `/hackenv/run mkdir bin && mv run bin
21:07:17 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/run: No such file or directory \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/run: cannot execute: No such file or directory
21:07:21 <shachaf> Taneb...............................
21:07:29 <Gregor> But `/hackenv/run wouldn't work.
21:08:02 <HackEgo> env: echo hi: No such file or directory
21:08:19 <elliott> i think there is a wa to do this
21:08:30 <elliott> Gregor: okay `fetch <script that installs run>
21:08:35 <elliott> `bash scriptthatinstallsrun
21:08:36 <HackEgo> bash: scriptthatinstallsrun: No such file or directory
21:08:37 <Taneb> shachaf, I apologise profusely, to you and to everyone else in #haskell-lens, and to the population of Canada, but that's a separate incident
21:09:19 <elliott> I guess it is debatable whether it is more useful to tweak `fetch or `run
21:09:22 <Gregor> OK, here's another thought: For any builtin command other than `revert, it will ignore the builtin if env/bin/<cmd> exists.
21:09:25 <elliott> but I do like as much as possible being modifiable
21:09:29 <zzo38> What about, population of the world, too?
21:09:40 <zzo38> Do you even know the exact population of Canada?
21:09:56 <elliott> Gregor: that works, but seems less elegant, esp. when the edge-case will actually be resolved by simply `reverting in practice
21:10:02 <elliott> also none of this actually matters of course
21:10:03 <shachaf> Taneb: what about the population of california
21:10:12 <kmc> "A naked man with a Samurai sword brought out a large police force New Year's morning"
21:10:15 <Taneb> I only insulted some of them
21:10:17 <elliott> but I do think it is cute for HackEgo to have as little code unrelated to sandboxing as possible
21:10:23 <Taneb> The Canada thing was big
21:10:26 <kmc> http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/SJPD-in-Stand-Off-With-Naked-Man-With-Samurai-Sword-185365812.html
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21:13:25 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
21:15:18 <oerjan> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/hg/ shows no changes this year...
21:16:10 <oerjan> Gregor: when was the last time you changed anything that could cause the cutoff to change?
21:17:00 <Gregor> oerjan: I took elliott's Python rewrite recently, and tweaked it until the cutoff was "the same".
21:17:33 <oerjan> well it's not in that url
21:18:50 <elliott> https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/hackbot/commits
21:19:29 <oerjan> the last one does look mighty relevant
21:19:38 <elliott> `run cat quotes | awk '{ print length(), $0 | "sort -n" }'
21:19:40 <elliott> `run cat quotes | awk '{ print length(), $0 | "sort -n" }' | tail -n 1
21:19:40 <HackEgo> 15 <myndzi> lol :( \ 21 <Taneb> coleridge and \ 22 <crystal-cola> 3 = 7/2 \ 22 <monqy> ophanim: omee~ \ 23 <elliott> `delquote 869 \ 24 <Sgeo> HOT SEXY SEX BITS \ 24 <SimonRC> TODO: sex life \ 26 * quintopia sits on gregor \ 27 <FireFly> Meh <FireFly> ._. \ 27 <oklopol> hmm, this is hard \ 27 <Sgeo> My quotes are boring \ 28 <mroman> You can't quot
21:19:42 <HackEgo> 440 <fungot> itidus21: hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, he
21:19:50 <elliott> `run cat quotes | awk '{ print length(), $0 | "sort -n" }' | tail -n 2 | head -n 1
21:19:52 <HackEgo> 417 <oklofok> mixing drinks together is like taking all of mozart's works and listening to all of them at once <oklofok> and in general a drink - and most foods - are kind like taking a song and then just taking the average of the notes and listening to it for three minutes. <oklofok> olsner: the point is you don't have to be the composer yoursel
21:19:55 <elliott> `run cat quotes | awk '{ print length(), $0 | "sort -n" }' | tail -n 3 | head -n 1
21:19:58 <HackEgo> 411 <oklofok> drinks should come in long long pipes that drip liquid at varying speeds, and you shouldn't just casually taste to them, you should really try to understand what the artist (the canposer?) was trying to convey when making the drink <oklofok> olsner: well you know i'm a genius. anyway i like how food works tho, because it has both the
21:20:07 <elliott> Gregor: I propose a cutoff of 420.
21:20:54 <oerjan> oh it actually says :350 there :P
21:58:00 <kmc> i enjoy the BBC's coverage of american politics
21:58:11 <kmc> because there's always a slight edge of incredulity
21:58:22 <kmc> "surely their country can't actually be this fucked up and poorly run... this must all be a big joke right?"
21:59:09 <Fiora> jon stewart seems to be the closest to an american news source that does the same thing
21:59:31 <Fiora> I like how he will simply have like, 20 second pauses after playing back some recording of another news channel, and all you can do is stare in wonder that this is actually reality
22:03:03 <kmc> it's a comedic crutch but as journalism it's dynamite
22:03:25 <kmc> it always gets me that people describe the daily show as "fake news"
22:03:59 <kmc> cause it's mostly real news
22:05:00 <Gregor> kmc: The Daily Show describes itself as fake news.
22:06:48 <kmc> i guess it's a fake (news show) not a (fake news) show
22:06:58 <Bike> yeah, stewart says that all the time
22:07:12 <Bike> like when fox says he's killing america or w/e
22:07:12 <kmc> in that they reject most standards of Serious Journalism
22:07:27 <kmc> yeah "my show comes on before the one with puppets making prank calls"
22:07:59 <kmc> though CNN and FOX air enough non-news shit that the gap is shrinking
22:08:05 <kmc> CNN is largely the Best of YouTube Channel
22:10:10 <Fiora> or best of twitter?
22:10:19 <Fiora> I know they have this weird obesssion with tweets
22:10:29 <Bike> "social media"
22:10:30 <fizzie> fungot: Why don't you tweet anything any more?
22:10:31 <fungot> fizzie: doesn't intercal have a minuscule instruction set just affects what resources, up to now cannot be regarded it without the cod title on it hard to fiqure out what going, tough one. if we solve it,...
22:10:47 <fizzie> fungot: Yeah, that's a big if...
22:10:48 <fungot> fizzie: is that something you know and and the cases that required to actually mutate the original i think it is either, man! you have a whip? why do
22:11:17 <fizzie> Famous last words: "You have a whip? Why do--"
22:13:02 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
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22:18:01 <Sgeo> GreyKnight, something or other to do with arming and taining syntax objects
22:18:31 <Sgeo> I think the goal is to prevent code from arbitrarily tearing up other macros in order to get access at something it shouldn't
22:18:33 <Bike> taining had bettter have something to do with the tain
22:19:00 <fungot> shachaf:, so i'd be happy to help an fnord archive)
22:19:03 <Sgeo> Actually explanation http://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/stx-certs.html
22:20:29 <olsner> fungot: you are a fnord archive
22:20:30 <fungot> olsner: and, dab, words like pop-culture should i have fizzie do the same principles, or precedents, of the secondary address of character memory can be achieved with the c preprocessor is run and line labels john is of all the important relevant for this page?
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22:28:42 <GreyKnight> Sgeo: they don't seem to mention where the term "dye pack" comes from
22:29:44 <Sgeo> GreyKnight, http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/stxcerts.html
22:31:32 <GreyKnight> I guess it is by analogy with security dyes
22:41:53 <GreyKnight> fizzie: I just read the Mentifex FAQ. Now I have a sad. :-(
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22:56:26 <fizzie> GreyKnight: How come you got a sad out of it?
22:57:47 <GreyKnight> those sorts of people always give me a sad. They have something they really really want and have poured their whole life into, but they're never going to get it.
23:01:42 <HackEgo> 432) <itidus20> It's ok guys. I am doing what I can to keep my psyche and ego surviving. All the while the threat of ww3 looms, the mortality of family and friends(loved ones?) and sooner or llater my own mortality.
23:02:39 <oerjan> i'll go make some food so i don't have to ban y'all for making me depressed -->
23:02:40 <GreyKnight> fungot: say something cheerful, quick!
23:02:41 <fungot> GreyKnight:, so i'd be happy to help an fnord archive)
23:04:26 * GreyKnight traps oerjan in a forcefield ⌇⌇ o_o ⌇⌇
23:07:09 <kmc> http://thehairpin.com/2012/12/death-ghosts-and-paul-koudounaris this is the best
23:08:25 <ion> I wonder why i read the URL as “debian-ghosts-and-paul-koudounan”?
23:09:50 <fizzie> Because Debian is death.
23:10:32 <oerjan> NOOOO, not forcefields and death-ghosts!
23:11:54 <fungot> Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings)
23:12:00 <fizzie> fungot: DEATH-GHOSTS and NIGHT-GAUNTS.
23:12:01 <fungot> fizzie: the day was warm and sunny, but the beings need no light. they have tried weakly to concoct a theory of a ghastly jest or warning by discharged servants, yet they were not as common as might be necessary.
23:12:10 <fizzie> "the day was warm and sunny, but the beings need no light."
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23:17:57 <GreyKnight> I like the bit where they had to exorcise some guy's penis
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23:23:17 <kmc> "Tested on OSX Mountain Lion, but some functionality may be lost on other flavours of Linux."
23:23:27 <kmc> that's from... a Ruby program you can use to read Hacker News in your terminal
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23:39:13 <Sgeo> I'm in an IRC channel with one of the people mentioned by that Mentifex FAQ
23:40:35 <Sgeo> The channel is publically logged, so I feel ok pasting logs
23:40:42 <Sgeo> <neilv> i actually encouraged him to submit it for publication, thinking that might be constructive, one way or another. turned out he's already been rejected by giants in the field before he commenced saturation bombing of usenet. :) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!msg/soc.history.science/zK1zilHUxI8/LuBXwlLdv44J
23:43:49 <monqy> shachaf: is this about lens
23:44:47 <shachaf> monqy: no!! it's about uh clojure
23:45:02 <monqy> are you confusing me for sgeo. i don't know clojure........
23:48:27 <shachaf> (If I start a line with a space it doesn't go in the logs, right?)
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