< 1357689613 641160 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://satwcomic.com/moby-is-a-dick who is the sparkly individual at the end there? < 1357689622 839022 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to know how dot files came around? < 1357689633 760572 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1357689644 375256 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1357689662 511252 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1357689677 702087 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The person who wrote ls got lazy and filtered out . and .. entries by checking if the first character of a filename was a . < 1357689679 166464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Iceland is sparkly. < 1357689681 907286 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357689711 926514 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: believable. too believable. make it snopesworthy. < 1357689731 767585 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I thought Iceland was all green and it was Greenland that was all ice :-I < 1357689762 94602 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :green things can sparkle! < 1357689788 343243 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iceland: like an emerald, in a way < 1357689811 753437 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait are they stealing our "Emerald Isle" motif >:-O < 1357689816 177687 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION declares war < 1357689957 619705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful, they have volcanoes < 1357690017 639573 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Björk < 1357690017 888531 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://plus.google.com/101960720994009339267/posts/R58WgWwN9jp < 1357690024 3334 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, from Rob Pike < 1357690048 98875 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://satwcomic.com/size-matters Denmark and Norway are *bros*, but Sweden just has to go and be awkward < 1357690108 61931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: still boring. < 1357690209 559201 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry if reality is boring to you :) < 1357690211 933473 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.169.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357690222 485473 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: "[…] during the Version 2 rewrite, when the file system became hierarchical (it had a very different structure early on)." <-- this was interesting by itself < 1357690247 161876 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: MSDOS didn't have a hierarchical FS at the beginning either < 1357690270 309283 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in the mists of time < 1357690326 12842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe technically danish and norwegian both got Å from swedish after the countries had all separated, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85#Origin < 1357690510 265164 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hierarchical FS support was added in MS-DOS 2 < 1357690551 858334 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NTFS allows files to contain more than one stream of bytes, each of which have an independent range of file positions starting at zero. Microsoft did this as a generalization of the original MacOS concept of a file having two forks, a data fork and a resource fork. I'd claim that it was a mistake on the Mac, and a bigger mistake for Microsoft to build it into NTFS." < 1357690572 624163 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone use that? < 1357690582 163613 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on windows, i mean, i've heard of mac forks. < 1357690652 826576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows windows cannot fork properly < 1357690705 233932 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS has a lot of features that end up essencially unused < 1357690714 301433 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use the multiple stream thing to hide files < 1357690715 803118 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't everything? < 1357690717 480898 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dd is horrible on purpose. It's a joke about OS/360 JCL. But today it's an internationally standardized joke. I guess that says it all." <-- this page is a source of lols < 1357690730 636268 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird NTFS features things reminds me of NTFS Link < 1357690744 183066 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: sounds great for malware. < 1357690759 887442 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was this little tool that let you have symbolic link support in windows, it was really easy and simple and intgrated into the explorer < 1357690767 886714 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can really only access the files from command line if they're hidden that way < 1357690771 356965 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@g NTFS junction point < 1357690771 536847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: gazetteer get-shapr ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki . ? @ v < 1357690781 700893 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google NTFS junction point < 1357690782 931155 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point < 1357690783 111285 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: NTFS junction point - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1357690797 971458 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :NTFS allows hard links and symbolic links, and you can mount a device inside a directory < 1357690821 472361 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :symbolic links are only for folders though, I think < 1357690833 457010 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main thing I used it for is I could move a big folder to another drive, then add a symbolic link so that programs still thought it was there < 1357690839 798921 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I could like, add a new hard drive, then symbolic-link program files < 1357691202 51211 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under linux, hard links are to files only < 1357691235 99229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: not true; the kernel API can handle directory hardlinks just fine, as can the usermode programs like ln < 1357691239 709737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, most /filesystems/ can't < 1357691243 560966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why you can't create them < 1357691306 323775 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln will refuse to create them, to prevent loops < 1357691318 434912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: unless you're root and tell it not to care about that < 1357691331 236879 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln --trust-me < 1357691338 825330 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1357691368 721617 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ext4 won't permit it, wonder what filesystems will < 1357691433 951116 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ntfs might < 1357691564 494942 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1357691722 650680 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: update < 1357691813 669716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines mount taking a regexp argument, and mounting the device at _all_ matching paths simultaneously < 1357691886 322318 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why stop there? Generate all possible strings that could match the regexp, create the necessary paths, and mount it everywhere < 1357691975 470384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um the point is the regexp is supposed to be allowed to give infinitely many strings. for those useful loops and stuff. < 1357692006 266656 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you sort of meant the same thing as me I think < 1357692011 895408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or put differently... yes. < 1357692041 199479 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :communication, taking place, etc < 1357692041 674686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1357692061 431721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego, not in place, etc < 1357692089 77101 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1357692105 440833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes Gregor is fine < 1357692148 973085 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357692206 233433 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: help Gregor < 1357692206 415033 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is trapped and only you can rescue him! < 1357692214 22374 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1357692251 984362 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's those darn forcefields, i knew they'd be nothing but trouble < 1357692370 771954 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never put Gregor in a forcefield! < 1357692399 560667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they said forcefields were trivial to escape, but they underestimated the gravity of the situation < 1357692426 908489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would do puns on magnetism instead if he could think of any < 1357692438 629566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i put gregor in a field of gravitational force and a field of electromagnetic force! < 1357692465 130817 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts c00kiemon5ter in a forcefield, and three cookies outside ⌇⌇ :-3 ⌇⌇ o o o < 1357692472 778063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the second is illegal, we'll have to charge you for it < 1357692518 116766 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: some people think I use forcefields to attract the ladies, but it is just my animal magnetism < 1357692522 636494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the gradient of your joke potential field is radially aimed toward "bad" < 1357692681 9233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you just want a magnetic monopoly! < 1357692697 288196 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These puns are making my hair curl < 1357692730 474631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can really div 'em out < 1357692763 450526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure that was a pun < 1357692766 484327 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: puns are an integral part of this channel :< < 1357692799 875216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they get a bit derivative after a while < 1357692856 289284 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd complain, but I don't want to make waves… < 1357693006 293429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :waves are ok, just don't go cosin trouble < 1357693035 301563 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has kind of gone off on a tangent < 1357693140 4659 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can see the parallels < 1357693152 730807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you are just projecting < 1357693172 867704 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1357693520 101739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1357693589 9262 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, what the fuck did I just watch? < 1357693652 467302 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :canon < 1357693658 995889 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I really don't know < 1357693687 268396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn < 1357693690 472940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t know either < 1357693718 223436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is every rails app in the world getting hacked right now or what happened with that < 1357693796 908026 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's apparently "trickster mode is canon now"? < 1357693840 668504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1357693853 507857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe you could make a startup dedicated to cracking startups. < 1357693865 995479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so confused < 1357693922 986814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could make a startup dedicated to smoking crack < 1357693937 53077 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, a startup < 1357693955 173800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like TACOCOPTER for CRACK COCAINE! < 1357693962 672983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357693963 870285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1357693968 334136 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well maybe all the news sites are on Rails and so they can't tell us about it :-I < 1357693969 967055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :given how cheap small toy drones are getting < 1357693973 446363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh sorry I meant in response to Sgeo_ < 1357693976 289358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should use them to deliver drugs < 1357693981 790820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh ok i thought so maybe < 1357693991 742219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it kind of made sense with what i said < 1357693994 839820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not enough sense >_< < 1357694029 531898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i think small toy drones don't have much cargo lifting capacity < 1357694041 839121 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "An attacker can execute any ruby code he wants including system("unix command"). This effects any rails version for the last 6 years." < 1357694045 261292 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's it < 1357694175 563398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nixon on wikipedia < 1357694175 743005 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second point is that coming out--coming back and saying that black Americans aren't as good as black Africans--most of them , basically, are just out of the trees. Now, let's face it, they are. < 1357694199 706479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lawfareblog.com/2012/09/operation-stux2bu-layered-offense-and-defense-and-drone-cyberattacks/ in which a defense policy expert, a 14 year old kid, and an 11 year old kid win a drones duel using cyberwarfare < 1357694284 505725 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: O_@ < 1357694292 313540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fun times < 1357694892 622021 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell2-h-32-3.dab.02.net QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1357697381 671214 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-142-102.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357697567 387911 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1357699980 753739 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Arc_Koen < 1357700483 417219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first zombie 6.001 lecture was today < 1357700510 818552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to go through some simple fibonacci-type examples in recitation and my students were asking about how you implement variadic functions and macros and stuff < 1357700513 716783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's a good sign? < 1357700591 580722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means no one ate their brains yet < 1357700832 45024 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.001 is undead now? < 1357700949 395759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been undead for a while < 1357700958 704105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :students teach it over the january Independent Activities Period < 1357700965 622531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original course is compressed into 1 month < 1357700989 129713 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was just, you know, dead < 1357701076 378205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.insinuator.net/2013/01/rails-yaml/ has more about that rails vulnerability < 1357701367 337071 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not in fact competent enough to just be able to click the edit button on GitHub, change the code, and send a pull request < 1357701379 859926 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I renamed an identifier but forgot to rename it everywhere < 1357701389 107456 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, well, just didn't see that location) < 1357701722 838169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Ribbit < 1357702382 310062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1357702932 328935 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I do a pattern match like [a] in haskell, what is the value of a? < 1357702972 850888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will match any list that contains exactly one element < 1357702976 698252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a will be bound to that element < 1357703000 979043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let [a] = [1,2,3] in a < 1357703002 450770 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: :3:5-17: Irrefutable pattern failed for pattern [a] < 1357703009 708469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let [a] = [5] in a < 1357703010 936325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1357703032 700634 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it only matches if there is a single element < 1357703042 23756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357703067 197474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a:b = [1,2,3] in (a,b) < 1357703068 668505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is sugar for (a : []) < 1357703068 940361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (1,[2,3]) < 1357703082 735642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two primitive patterns for lists are [] and (x : xs) < 1357703089 106092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :matching empty and non-empty lists respectively < 1357703105 900738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pattern like [a,2,b] is sugar for (a : (2 : (b : []))) < 1357703153 162819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lists have special syntax but otherwise they act like a normal algebraic data type, data List a = Nil | Cons a (List a) < 1357704040 122982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's where babies come from < 1357704073 637504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> repeat "babies" < 1357704075 89821 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["babies","babies","babies","babies","babies","babies","babies","babies","b... < 1357704516 478438 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Racketeers are... scared of hidden mutation? < 1357704527 796315 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Depending on what you mean by Scheme-y, yes. Guile has GOOPs, for example. The generics library was designed not to allow such backpatching. < 1357704527 976703 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Because it's basically some hidden mutation. < 1357704746 465872 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1357704805 562564 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats this about < 1357704842 951184 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taking a value from library A and a generic interface from library B, and writing a library C that makes the value implement the interface without the consent of the value < 1357704883 872152 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hidden mutation isn't necessarily evil < 1357704884 109895 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Any Haskell implementation is going to do hidden mutation to turn lazy thunks into values when that thunk is forced < 1357704884 293196 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's unobservable mutation. < 1357704884 293400 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's an optimization over call-by-name basically. < 1357704884 293514 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : You can definitely observe a mutation of a method table of some object. < 1357704886 727313 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm < 1357704906 26556 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you hrming about < 1357704941 577508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably why he's pasting #clojure(?) #racket(?) logs into #esoteric < 1357704948 8895 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#racket < 1357705004 894139 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's right that there's a difference, I'm not sure though if hidden but observable mutation is to be avoided < 1357705006 482579 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "making it implement an interface without its consent" do you mean mutating it to patch in an implementation < 1357705025 309123 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1357705025 489766 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk how this system works < 1357705030 793277 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1357705037 726293 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you're doing something icky and bad < 1357705051 729554 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's how some OO systems for Scheme work < 1357705071 550122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, since when do you need to mutate an object to define methods on its class < 1357705135 369097 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to mutate the class. Or, well, it would end up responding differently to the question "do you respond to this?" at point t1 and point t2 < 1357705173 428255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "hidden but observable" mean < 1357705194 88752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you can see it without looking at implementation details but it's not obvious if you're stupid"? < 1357705207 291666 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: well, if it's message-passing based, i guess. < 1357705250 965968 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably "hidden" as in "It's not immediately obvious that you're mutating something", I guess? < 1357705281 524029 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want to do this thing anyway < 1357705449 139844 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's quite easy to imagine two libraries developed in isolation that would fit well together < 1357705524 422818 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about.............. generics < 1357705524 904692 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only way to make them fit well together is to muck up their internals < 1357705544 798884 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about defining ..interfaces? < 1357705553 745641 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, the generics system new in Racket is like this < 1357705555 227534 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough ellipses try again < 1357705658 14083 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Interface system in the OO is also like this, the class needs to consent < 1357705684 546945 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, christ,i thought you were taking two minutes to type up an explanation of The Generics System New In Racket < 1357705703 354757 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, sorry < 1357705704 307403 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i meant like c++ sort of generics < 1357705714 226381 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know what those are like < 1357705724 709628 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: didn't that other guy said the generics system was designed not to allow the stupid stuff you're doing < 1357705730 208416 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there aren't class objects so you certainly can't muck with them! < 1357705762 400449 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: so what do you mean by it "is like this"???? < 1357705776 598516 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is like mutating weirdness < 1357705781 397271 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is like the whole "thing implementing a generic needs to declare it" < 1357705789 543508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i get the feeling we're not getting a balanced description? question marks here < 1357705804 629532 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the feeling we're not getting a description at all < 1357705809 634332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that also < 1357705877 458505 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm not entirely certain of every mechanism of the generics stuff and the OO and interface stuff < 1357706016 438671 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to know enough about it to make wild statements about how it works / what use is telling us about it if you don't understand it well enough to clue us in on what the hell you're talking about < 1357706020 509643 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pick one" < 1357706043 704064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reminded of the Expression Problem < 1357706082 421689 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's about defining a contract between different classes or even complete systems. all parts agree on that contract to exchange data.. that's it < 1357706088 828339 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357706094 674994 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it < 1357706130 234228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expression_problem < 1357706263 226061 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was vaguely under the impression that that didn't apply to dynamically typed languages < 1357706277 320991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :says "static type safety" right there yo < 1357706296 929160 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if everything works out fine a programmer just needs to care to satisfy the contract defined in the interface.. no need to care about how alien libs or classes work internally.. < 1357706309 396213 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1357706376 583326 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I googled for PLT Scheme expression problem < 1357706383 570912 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something on the mailing list mentioned mixins < 1357706414 407186 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should google for PLT scheme expression solution < 1357706589 154705 :guestbot!18d4982e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.212.152.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357706855 483882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i know but doing it without mutation seems to make it a problem for single-dispatch dynamic OO as well... < 1357706877 883320 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always get implementation paralysis when I look at Scheme. Chicken Scheme or Racket, how can I decide? < 1357706886 902898 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I know Racket doesn't really fit any Scheme standard) < 1357706921 46949 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you feel the same way when you look at haskell < 1357706932 18303 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc or hugs????? < 1357706932 495010 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm not sure how the problem even makes sense with mutation, i mean, it explicitly says "new cases" &c < 1357706938 805731 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugs 4lyfe < 1357706939 527409 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uhc or jhc have you thought about that < 1357706945 964927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: not any more since hugs died :( < 1357706953 197260 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugs 4deth < 1357706959 561990 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thats part of the joke :] < 1357706999 80670 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Haskell community is pretty centered around GHC. The Scheme community is very much not centered around any one implementation < 1357707185 664143 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok how about C < 1357707197 237809 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or or or or or or or or or or or javascript < 1357707214 501356 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript is different, instead of choosing an implementation you just fail to write for all them. < 1357707220 960082 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke :((((( < 1357707229 793418 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll try a new joke < 1357707239 571311 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those chins, or... < 1357707293 868591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross platform javascript is not that bad < 1357707347 244608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is very easy if you really just mean "javascript" < 1357707347 483607 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :server side javascript solutions => no need to write for multiple implementations??? < 1357707358 532196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you also mean browser APIs, DOM, etc. then it is still not too bad < 1357707448 390054 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it kmc.. the guys try to agree on the least common denominator ..c and javascript is bad :P < 1357707483 567187 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said anything was bad? i'm just hear to fuck up jokes. < 1357707496 110171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just hear to fuck up spelling < 1357707503 295288 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i thought of a good one Sgeo_: do you get the implementation paralysis when you try to write your Assembly's < 1357707605 938269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/speling hth < 1357707741 418248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more on topic, brainfuck and befunge might have implementation paralysis. so does malbolge, although for a completely different reason. < 1357707749 331747 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net NICK :augur < 1357707767 743249 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's the fact that Scheme libraries tend to be highly unportable < 1357707777 464724 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there aren't many for pure R5RS < 1357707796 150510 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a bunch of stuff for Chicken Scheme, a bunch of separate stuff for Racket, etc < 1357707874 136150 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1357708012 85833 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1357708016 887528 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1357708018 445288 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1357708030 27708 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357708347 409600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks < 1357708406 754775 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1357709298 482679 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-142-102.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1357710936 175351 :guestbot_!18d4982e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.212.152.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357711016 953834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome has implementation paralysis < 1357711078 113727 :guestbot!18d4982e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.212.152.46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1357711142 89225 :guestbot!18d4982e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.212.152.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357711158 558802 :guestbot!18d4982e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.212.152.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupidrush (+++++>------>++++++>)*3++>([(+)*11[-][+...]]->)*19[[-]] < 1357711161 476832 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for guestbot_stupidrush: 34.6 < 1357711214 520705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, not bad < 1357711276 893756 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi guestbot < 1357711295 574688 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it used your advice of making six decoys < 1357711353 186792 :guestbot_!18d4982e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.212.152.46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1357711386 916881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's more than 6 decoys < 1357711390 899010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it eight? < 1357711407 593882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1357711412 220544 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a *3 < 1357711414 978899 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1357711444 563349 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupidrush (+++++>------>++++++>)*3++>([(+)*11[-][+...]][++.+]->)*19[[-]] < 1357711447 397505 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_stupidrush: 31.8 < 1357711451 347882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1357711460 123875 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I want to forsake set theories. I'm going to do all my mathematics in second-order Peano arithmetic with Henkin semantics. < 1357711466 99466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust stupidrush < < 1357711468 955121 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_stupidrush: 0.0 < 1357711471 338634 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only things that exist are the natural numbers, and certain sets of natural numbers. < 1357711570 912218 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what, let's call them "classes" instead of "sets". "Set" will mean a finite collection of natural numbers. If a collection is definable but infinite, it's a class. < 1357711572 289878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 9 rather < 1357711682 362639 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, "set" is really just a synonym of "natural number". A natural number n is an element of a natural number S if and only if S divided by 2^n, rounded down, is odd. < 1357711700 578280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aristotlean logic is so old-hat, you can say classes are whatever without meaning classes exist! < 1357711946 811066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1357712056 727710 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rational numbers are number-level. Real numbers are class-level. As for sets of real numbers, TANST. < 1357712097 290301 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how do you do calculus? Easy: toss out all the non-continuous functions. A continuous function of real numbers can be represented as a set of natural numbers. < 1357712184 656625 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just represent it as a function Q -> R, which you can, in turn, represent as the set of all pairs (x, y) of rational numbers such that y < f(x). < 1357714308 6663 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357714338 978913 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1357714601 64866 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357716603 442567 :guestbot!18d4982e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.212.152.46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1357716952 232808 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357716964 48096 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Client Quit < 1357717138 899272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weird. This (desktop) computer has some kind of a built-in speaker inside. < 1357717182 92871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its friend..... < 1357717255 822646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you understand. There is SOUND coming OUT OF IT. < 1357717303 897071 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its friend............ < 1357717345 773042 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the sound sound like beeps < 1357717351 80838 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disable pc speaker because gosh i hate it < 1357717360 762446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not sound like beeps. < 1357717363 856160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like sound. < 1357717368 708030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm as confused as I was back when I got my SparcStation, ran mpg123 on it, and SOUND came OUT OF IT. (There's a speaker in that thing too.) < 1357717369 858258 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it sound like whirring < 1357717376 119659 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disable fan, disable spinny discs < 1357717433 348609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, it did stop when I closed the U-tube link. But the sound shouldn't have come out in the first place, because it's not got anything plugged in its sound holes. < 1357717440 408308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That sounds a bit dirty.) < 1357717487 425135 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it's fashion-illegal for a desk box to have onboard sound < 1357717489 145065 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in bad taste < 1357717612 274022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Fujitsu machine. < 1357717617 723362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fujitsu something something something. < 1357717633 943708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fujitsu CELSIUS W520 POWER. < 1357717777 240742 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I recently accidentally discovered that nvidia video cards come with sound cards that work over HDMI. < 1357717777 411503 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1357717797 545179 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you plug it into an audio-capable monitor or TV, voila, sound. < 1357717808 425310 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad I didn't choose to watch porn as my first test of the video card. < 1357717824 771144 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is HackEgo crashing so much :( < 1357717873 564005 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1357717919 439582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think pretty much anything with a HDMI connector these days has a "sound card" (FSVO) in it. The onboard graphics of my home desktop do too. < 1357717933 366500 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1357717959 60576 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ luafilesystem-1.6.2-1.rockspec \ luafilesystem-1.6.2-1.src.rock \ luarocks.err \ luarocks.out \ paste \ penlight-1.0.0-1.rockspec \ penlight-1.0.0-1.src.rock \ quotes \ quotese \ robocop \ run \ share \ < 1357717970 539016 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k.. so nothing got deleted < 1357717974 367620 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1357718011 580449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of that stuff perhaps ought to have gotten deleted, though. < 1357718102 730621 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm robocop < 1357718105 880616 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357719187 712630 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm..high resolution repdroduction documentation < 1357719226 568718 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357719729 98931 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357719743 840895 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi HackEgo!!!!!! < 1357719850 386931 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`botsnack < 1357719851 620852 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-D < 1357719934 887211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`snackbot < 1357719935 919295 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: snackbot: not found < 1357719937 663332 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if Sgeo_'s talk of "the Racketeers" means he is migrating languages again < 1357720019 28065 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1357720235 462723 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357720255 652426 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1357720256 689241 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :383) Phantom_Hoover: nope, I removed . from the current directory < 1357720273 399185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1357720282 741493 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were supposed to add some quotes? Better check the logs I guess < 1357720302 518036 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively I could eat breakfast < 1357720304 620618 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.173 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1357720348 667492 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does everyone keep quitting when I talk, it's quite rude! < 1357720401 327596 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: `gregorsnack < 1357720437 867694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf * < 1357720464 443760 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357720471 352042 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :onoz < 1357720472 382697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1357720479 941976 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ luafilesystem-1.6.2-1.rockspec \ luafilesystem-1.6.2-1.src.rock \ luarocks.err \ luarocks.out \ paste \ penlight-1.0.0-1.rockspec \ penlight-1.0.0-1.src.rock \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ wisdom \ < 1357720488 246676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it MYSTERIOUSLY didn't work < 1357720565 942065 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1357720613 676422 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tidies up a bit < 1357720623 494957 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1357720624 530240 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ paste \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1357720651 459779 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls factor < 1357720653 2442 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor.image < 1357720660 890954 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this sgeo's doing < 1357720676 147644 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"probably" < 1357720791 158881 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1357720792 189674 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1357720954 254243 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome HackEgo < 1357720955 993684 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1357720963 392415 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay :> < 1357720965 216522 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357721125 657487 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? GreyKnight < 1357721127 159778 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357721135 339804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Factor installation ran into file size limits or something, didn't it? < 1357721136 395593 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadface < 1357721147 780718 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think so < 1357721166 151851 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor.image is pretty large at any rate < 1357721188 925522 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Basically a dump of the entire system state) < 1357721285 989747 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357721529 838117 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357721531 836775 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357721545 667561 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost perfect < 1357721776 662028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357721947 135818 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Haskell < 1357721948 558887 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbound implicit parameter (?haskell::Wisdom) \ arising from a use of implicit parameter `?haskell' < 1357722002 844013 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trufax < 1357722104 685446 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "AntiPattern: Intellectual Violence occurs when someone who understands a theory, technology, or buzzword uses this knowledge to intimidate others in a meeting situation. This may happen inadvertently due to the normal reticence of technical people to expose their ignorance." > wisdom/IntellecutalViolence < 1357722107 100316 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357722143 849269 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/IntellecutalViolence wisdom/IntellectualViolence < 1357722147 289513 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357722150 38759 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example: < 1357722161 202622 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad < 1357722162 574032 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1357722440 814563 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/IntellectualViolence < 1357722443 722827 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357722458 420697 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I draw the line at letting hagb4rd add wisdom entries. < 1357722585 957980 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-ell1-h-39-7.dab.02.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1357722661 379062 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357722748 652914 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357722792 622728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1357722911 518889 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1357722916 127760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/No < 1357722917 668953 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/No < 1357722918 846649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, still there. < 1357722976 774563 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/No < 1357722977 873784 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh < 1357722985 775645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`No output. < 1357722987 426652 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357723007 271567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wondered about it a while ago until someone kindly explained it to me.) < 1357723028 690349 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1357723758 830392 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "DisagreeByDeleting is when a person disagrees with something and deletes it rather than posting an alternative idea alongside the item. See Also: IntellectualViolence" > wisdom/DisagreeByDeleting < 1357723761 922624 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357723812 563393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/DisagreeByDeleting # I don't agree < 1357723815 312778 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357723837 891709 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have removed it anyway < 1357723976 49038 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: so long < 1357724101 165033 :augur_!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357724517 603282 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357724567 827208 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1357724567 997215 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1357724568 167564 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1357724568 167674 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1357724568 167728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357724714 214921 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1357725069 185796 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357725393 591674 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1357725603 435145 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/1158/ < 1357726439 601050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bowling ball analogy is so terrible < 1357726579 608878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically the perfect way to teach someone some of the words used in general relativity whilst completely misleading them on what it's actually about < 1357727445 223915 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/895/ < 1357727488 870322 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eddiecurrent.blogspot.com/2012/03/gravity-is-not-rubber-sheet.html < 1357727514 292544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be better just to say "yeah this is complicated and hard to understand" until you can properly explain what it means for space to be curved? < 1357728085 199832 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1357728373 904745 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1357729096 695863 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote analogy < 1357729096 905117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lilac says: * lilac looks forward to Cale explaining category theory by analogy to Call of Duty < 1357729104 439405 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote analogies < 1357729104 609601 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmorrow says: a functor is like an analogy between two analogies < 1357731453 241483 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357731455 306391 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 0 Jan 9 08:34 canary < 1357735082 482634 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1357735350 166796 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm canary < 1357735352 930665 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357735361 704200 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357735364 541154 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 0 Jan 9 12:42 canary < 1357735435 484074 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1357735483 977718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat < canary < 1357735484 991307 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357735494 118787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "<" is to evoke the action of eating.) < 1357735585 664403 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357735859 86838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo tweet > canary < 1357735863 32903 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357735866 12776 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat canary < 1357735867 64982 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tweet < 1357735929 991584 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357735989 563296 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to `run unless you have more than 1 argument < 1357736012 589250 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1357736013 968170 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tweet < 1357736049 696992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But cats often run. < 1357736096 910185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --cat 10 < 1357736100 224779 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :amameneïssol arrejareu intèriquina eixonant execres esbiadesen cats encipalegues acaderésseu pacalfarbono < 1357736100 525907 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm..right < 1357736150 81995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those must be some foreign cats that speak like that. < 1357736156 815323 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bas2-h-61-9.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357736309 46377 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357736610 186128 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.169.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357736634 66319 :GreyKnight!~greyknigh@dab-bas2-h-61-9.dab.02.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1357737284 970715 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1357737774 374549 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/words < 1357737775 60795 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/words < 1357737806 237599 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357737825 809805 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: one of the words was "cats" interestingly < 1357737908 703762 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear God I think I got #RubyOnRails talking philosophy < 1357738090 348499 :guestbot!cdd336aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.211.54.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357738271 333060 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what have you done D: < 1357738390 12649 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speak the truth < 1357738398 180625 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but ride a fast horse) < 1357738415 215523 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to argue that there is such a thing as absolute reality < 1357738422 899862 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're talking about the theory of relativity < 1357738437 498968 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so *everybody's* off-topic, got it :-) < 1357738554 463413 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell them to fix their bugs instead ;-) < 1357738953 80924 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1357739931 179164 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.169.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357739962 733221 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1357740085 336523 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.169.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1357740716 147420 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357741107 512263 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1357741739 934008 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1357741757 621328 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1357741770 616068 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1357741845 788831 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1357742630 246331 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357742695 637202 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1357742697 363235 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1357742709 886794 :sivoais!~zaki@199.19.225.239 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357742734 649435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1357742736 644653 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1357742788 56863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the --catalan.) < 1357742794 154309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The cat language.) < 1357742927 54018 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed that was the case < 1357742940 459190 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why that doesn't need to be `run though < 1357743041 526488 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1357743599 684836 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1357743782 329247 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357744205 906389 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which words < 1357744207 971862 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/words < 1357744211 197561 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file /hackenv/bin/words < 1357744213 411997 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/words: a /usr/bin/perl script text executable < 1357744225 374386 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess perl is doing some magic to make it work < 1357744233 700151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what magic < 1357744237 930002 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which words) | paste < 1357744240 958308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1357744241 305750 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1357744241 476560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's "it" < 1357744242 97745 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17694 < 1357744249 364461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any abnormal behaviour < 1357744251 112029 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --cat 10 < 1357744253 553637 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :devellació descoprot compar persondules rucarem estanca pallí rusuc arroqui mullotà < 1357744271 736993 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can identify --cat and 10 as separate arguments without a run < 1357744284 409553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, that < 1357744287 860135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's part of the program itself IIRC < 1357744300 696742 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I said :v < 1357744314 559800 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/perl/the perl code/ < 1357744366 664798 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ARGV = split /\s+/, $ARGV[0] if @ARGV == 1; # this looks like it < 1357744366 872955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1357744371 551973 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shush dear < 1357744501 303559 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357744569 851293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it has a manual splitting in case of a single argument. < 1357744585 698044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I suppose that was already well-enough established. < 1357744591 250929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well uh your mom. < 1357744608 991110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 10 # it does need run when you want to make pithy comments like this one < 1357744611 109317 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kässäännekstia sykkiämme haljaamuvuutta erästämilta ruhtaasiatyypilvo huikeämpänäsi kirichlettamme jylitsemiin syventämmästänne piamme < 1357744611 799521 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what does it do if you call it without run ????? < 1357744629 538208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words '--finnish 10' # oh no IT'S ALL WRONG < 1357744631 298631 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :luopeutuvana puhdettamiasi vällensa näköisempi lanillanne aihtyessamme muodeerinostetykypsyklisi arkimaan kaansa istamme < 1357744643 836199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I wanted the "finnish 10" wordset. < 1357744655 296098 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you managed to say the one line that would make mine less witty < 1357744672 638079 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes the second list isn't Finnish < 1357744674 836106 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1357744675 869146 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1357744684 417007 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my parser is broken < 1357746202 190503 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357746488 137031 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : but what does it do if you call it without run ????? <-- afaik it passes the whole string as a single argument (as if passed in quotation marks).. so actually the # is not evaluated as a comment < 1357746521 954588 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct me if i am wrong please < 1357746859 912811 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`source < 1357746861 23406 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: source: not found < 1357746917 59458 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib < 1357746918 90996 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch \ limits \ revert \ sandbox < 1357746930 875536 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds < 1357746931 908077 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib < 1357746949 483036 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: I had typed that before fizzie's preceding line (I was making a joke) < 1357746963 62627 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1357747384 489730 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k fix < 1357747385 521280 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `fix' < 1357747393 314842 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1357747407 248529 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (:t fix) < 1357747408 300067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `:' < 1357747411 52983 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1357747468 256789 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION traps lambdabot in a forcefield ⌇⌇ λ ⌇⌇ < 1357747518 187587 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix < 1357747519 219858 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a < 1357747525 257217 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (a -> a) -> a < 1357747526 358543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `a' < 1357747526 540745 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `a' < 1357747526 710963 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type variable `a' < 1357747538 170693 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot!!! < 1357747548 893783 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it would just be * < 1357747558 382616 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs theatrically < 1357747558 722753 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (Int -> Int) -> Int < 1357747560 267312 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1357747575 975061 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinds are more for type constructors < 1357747577 776389 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Monad < 1357747578 736721 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* -> *) -> Constraint < 1357747586 644582 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constraint? < 1357747595 621582 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that escalated quickly < 1357747684 303432 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know :k could hold things other than * ( ) -> and er whatever the other ones are... # and % I think? < 1357747752 16233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :# and ? and ?? < 1357747754 365594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also (#) < 1357747757 531566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they got renamed recently < 1357747789 723503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: constraints are things that can appear left of => < 1357747790 68475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you hear about our great new type? < 1357747803 238232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Bizarre p a b s t = Bizarre { unBizarre :: p t s -> p b a } < 1357747819 40966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype BlueRibbon p a b s t < 1357747829 298839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so what's it for < 1357747837 179298 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any uses for kinds like (* -> *) -> (* -> *) -> * -> * < 1357747846 154266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1357747848 971188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of question is that < 1357747849 368016 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are type constructors of that kind writable? < 1357747853 493524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357747865 225890 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's mind twists a little bit < 1357747866 201482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Foo a b x = Foo (a x) (b x) < 1357747890 516696 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.169.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1357747908 679681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that Constraint stuff was added in recent GHC; now typeclass constraints are type-like things and can be manipulated with the other type machinery < 1357747935 938350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can have things that are polymorphic over various constraints, type families that produce constraints, etc < 1357747943 163100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically off the chain < 1357747949 516651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Making opposite lenses. < 1357747971 988006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A profunctor lens is representable as either (p a b -> p s t) or as (q t s -> q b a) < 1357748069 745207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This type, along with some instances, lets you turn any lens around and use it in the opposite way. < 1357748206 557235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't quite say "the kind of (a -> a) -> a is *" because you need to know that a has kind * < 1357748270 823939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But (->)'s kind is * -> * -> * < 1357748273 957901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It has to be. < 1357748280 399755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the unboxed stuff, I guess. < 1357748282 875003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly there's some sort of subkinding thing going on here? < 1357748284 331787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But (->) always ends up with *. < 1357748286 578240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (a -> a) -> a has a kind at all, its kind is * < 1357748307 517700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is comfortable saying the type of ():xs is [()] < 1357748308 692489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, sure. < 1357748315 644812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1357748319 819644 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" it's basically off the chain" <-- you spelt "rocker" incorrectly there hth < 1357748343 127982 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're making a concave lens? :-3 < 1357748355 95532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How's that name? < 1357748360 6410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concave and convex lenses? < 1357748365 198747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How about no? < 1357748387 551351 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadface < 1357748453 548430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: How do you make it work with the f, anyway? < 1357748465 273568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I bet answering my question about representability would help! < 1357748728 246890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...exfiltrating data from the phone by toggling a GPIO pin on the embedded CPU at radio frequencies." < 1357748731 455509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1357748756 308520 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds interesting. URL? < 1357748765 158388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ossmann.blogspot.com/2013/01/funtenna.html < 1357748770 369803 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankes. < 1357748781 748011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was for the worm that takes over all cisco phones in an organization and uses them to spy on you < 1357748902 381025 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Batman eat your heart out < 1357748912 43377 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how they call it a "funtenna" < 1357749051 727587 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :light-hearted < 1357749232 909399 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1357749567 824673 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357750587 630815 :GreyKnight!3eac6a75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.172.106.117 QUIT :Quit: --> < 1357751434 895530 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was there actually a flaw I missing in the stuff I said yesterday? < 1357752126 761074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357753435 651838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like people who try to sell me things I don't want, when I try to get some simple thing done w.r.t. their company. :/ < 1357753625 582798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, if you just stopped not wanting the things, that would solve everything, wouldn't it? < 1357753632 164176 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How important is pattern matching to the actor model? < 1357753661 994554 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because in rudybot, I saw thread level mailboxes be used but didn't see a way to conform that the message was sent by who the thread was expecting it to be sent by < 1357753673 110216 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I made a patch to have it send a new async channel instead < 1357755273 590066 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1357756817 982918 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so which of these people do I call to see if there's any way to speak to an advisor < 1357756833 283133 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Chairperson [of CS program I guess]" < 1357756839 234204 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Graduate Program Director for M.S. and Ph.D. Programs in Computer Science " < 1357756845 799384 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Graduate Program Administrator for M.S. and Ph.D. Programs in Computer Science " < 1357757454 250729 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the director < 1357757678 751539 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357757765 882437 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you, I'll try it < 1357758109 511548 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357758313 288222 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ping < 1357758338 701102 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust behemoth >->++>>>(+)*38>(+)*4<<(-)*24<(+)*12<(-)*8<(+)*5<++>(+)*32>(-)*24>(+)*12>(-)*8>(+)*5<<<<(+)*16>(-)*22>(+)*20>(-)*8>(+)*0>>>>>((-[+[+[+[+[+[+[+[--------[-[-[-[-[(-)*38[+]>]+>{}]]]]]]]]]]]]+++>)%21)*21 < 1357758344 831967 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_behemoth: 52.1 < 1357758352 980842 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :david_werecat, haven't seen you in a while! < 1357758357 407953 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How're you doing? < 1357758369 250930 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things have been going well. < 1357758374 604823 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been busy < 1357758410 522637 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what's new in #esoteric? < 1357758443 7634 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fueue is implemented in three languages < 1357758471 154853 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover has a Tumblr < 1357758481 755445 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which he uses to complain about brainfuck derivatives < 1357758514 842210 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of brainfuck derivitaves... < 1357758516 645410 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust golf ++(>)*9([+++[-]>]>)*21 < 1357758524 215183 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for david_werecat_golf: 30.8 < 1357758530 464905 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has so few posts! we should clearly get him to pad it out with some homestuck. < 1357758532 310055 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, does BF Joust count? < 1357758544 129889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357758547 203969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me so angry < 1357758556 571574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only i had a means of expressing my rage < 1357758571 837093 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, homestuck-based brainfuck derivatives? < 1357758573 900905 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, I hear he posts loads of Homestuck on a sideblog, pretending to be me < 1357758592 83076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homefuck is probably already the name of a few dozen pornos, though < 1357758609 109718 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://homefuck.tumblr.com < 1357758612 861786 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who dares investigate < 1357758621 498683 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moved to MuelinRouge < 1357758637 793934 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw man, that's lame < 1357758643 132369 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://homesuck.tumblr.com < 1357758644 858062 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who dares investigate < 1357758651 106154 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1357758695 611482 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poodle aerobics < 1357758711 586661 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is weird, because the fullpage flash made me expect meatspin < 1357758720 134244 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the problem with Tumblr < 1357758731 444086 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people < 1357758755 874121 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote That's the problem with Tumblr All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people < 1357758765 191828 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :902) That's the problem with Tumblr All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people < 1357758769 711805 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, is HackEgo back? < 1357758800 421448 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo AND david_werecat have returned: we need itidus20's opinion on this < 1357758847 393479 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the topic of porn < 1357758854 140422 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fairly sure farscape counts as it now < 1357758882 612900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357759028 922569 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run echo "high resolution documentation of reproduction" > wisdom/porn < 1357759062 367860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/porn < 1357759064 114933 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `wisdom/porn': No such file or directory < 1357759070 840753 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1357759082 202415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did someone block hagb4rd from it or what < 1357759089 225357 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he used a leading space. < 1357759091 297466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had a space < 1357759093 935271 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hagb4rd < 1357759094 623885 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes your ego < 1357759095 703669 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357759101 113228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1357759111 290675 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357759114 253024 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn hagb4rd is one spacey fellow. Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace. < 1357759118 707168 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1357759127 383600 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1357759129 104256 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. < 1357759137 498151 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1357759141 136244 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​aj$_IKФbm4yj \ 4ܓ+J63`x}:N2`,TߞrU%K0sy$KO' \ vA&}L`P p.)T)Wowz2oSn^7E.Ӯ owlU-?twXKI\KɼCoU"~T. N#e(S+a.zu7>.?uO=`O!%_T .DzV"d}XPj"£ӭTYoyU=YJfV?1AhGH.]`fe߃xtp` < 1357759142 873141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a sufi? < 1357759154 642230 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... am an ACT-or < 1357759210 986130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hi < 1357759213 105788 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357759236 593355 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow bike.. you know about sufis? < 1357759254 566678 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ow"? does that pain you? < 1357759262 656886 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm. no < 1357759274 793597 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just pronounec differently in german < 1357759275 81642 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why would you say "ow". < 1357759286 234460 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i need to learn from you < 1357759286 632300 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is back! and spewing random garbage! hurray! < 1357759320 280877 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: so how do you express the feeling of surprise? < 1357759325 542325 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, nah, that's just the only adequate way of describing Ngevd < 1357759337 987474 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow", "huh", "gosh", "my stars and garters" < 1357759365 592642 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great. or are sufis just the guys flying planes in two towers? < 1357759373 797506 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: didn't you comment the other day that you absorbed gosh from me? < 1357759418 84781 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: what, no they're not < 1357759421 233789 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golly, what an extraordinary happenstance < 1357759429 348479 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: probably, since i did and all < 1357759445 536782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I was just checking my memory < 1357759450 646818 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: i learned a little about sufis from the writing of robert anton wilson < 1357759455 568926 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+s < 1357759484 979168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAW's kind of full of crap often, you should try actual academics, or - gasp - actual sufis < 1357759490 427071 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it was cosmic trigger. great book. one of my favourites < 1357759541 175054 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me an author < 1357759545 23241 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or die in pain < 1357759560 492990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very nice. < 1357759613 127705 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please < 1357759615 236998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i don't know that much about sufism particularly, just that it's a mystic/esoteric muslim tradition. < 1357759628 470884 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism#Modern.2Fcontemporary_Sufi_scholars though, conveniently enough.... < 1357759637 681586 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes the wiki article < 1357759643 993136 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5f3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should've known < 1357760001 151318 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $(echo foo) < 1357760002 672319 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1357760071 436716 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-83-1.dab.02.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357760129 286750 :guestbot!cdd336aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.211.54.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1357760248 429469 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357760295 465888 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-83-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote GreyKnight: And Gregor itself is kind of a probability distribution spread all over the globe. < 1357760298 616390 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :903) GreyKnight: And Gregor itself is kind of a probability distribution spread all over the globe. < 1357760301 778637 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-17-97-9.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1357760306 427622 :atriq!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1357760338 647285 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that, the Globe as in the pub in Hexham < 1357760349 531689 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-83-1.dab.02.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote what is this set? sounds like shakespear Yes, that's what people often say about Chrono Trigger. < 1357760353 39195 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :904) what is this set? sounds like shakespear Yes, that's what people often say about Chrono Trigger. < 1357760409 663353 :david_werecat!~david_wer@205.211.54.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1357760589 782573 :GreyKnight!~GK@dab-ell1-h-83-1.dab.02.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1357760718 905942 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.169.78 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357762240 453227 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1357762450 217249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, what did you make of the recent Homestuck update < 1357762598 852446 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what's *not* to make of it < 1357762643 252649 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sense < 1357762899 301203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man i need to pay attention to homestuck < 1357762951 571677 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/post/40102764299/ < 1357762959 377935 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/post/40058507475/ < 1357763025 110923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can leave homestuck on the backburner for a while longer < 1357763034 885354 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, elliott took that path < 1357763039 774115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't end prettily < 1357763057 347481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it end < 1357763066 713729 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on sgeo's dread List. < 1357763071 210198 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why people were fussing over the update so much though <_<; this didn't seem particularly insane to me as updates go I guess? < 1357763091 441060 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did... < 1357763095 194239 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you watch the flash < 1357763097 414624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357763121 452476 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainbows~ < 1357763154 585994 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably the most doesn't-make-sense-out-of-context page in Homestuck < 1357763158 962990 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357763214 230808 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, there's a looooot of those < 1357763215 683095 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006619 < 1357763225 382561 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and often those arelike, the most wonderful panels <3 < 1357763252 37730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003158 < 1357763274 602830 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=pony this one? < 1357763289 184080 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=pony2 more so < 1357763298 91610 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, there's another? @_@ < 1357763311 212656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one has the sexy neighs < 1357763335 994303 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh the one with roxy < 1357763363 389124 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007555 this one too? < 1357763422 798026 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "every damn page of Homestuck, Problem Sleuth, Bard Quest, and Jailbreak" would work < 1357763730 155817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheeee used pdb (the python debugger) for the first time < 1357763733 806364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does in fact work < 1357764088 713228 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357764514 26587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only ever used it in the form "import pdb; pdb.set_trace()" < 1357764525 177810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it works nicely. < 1357764916 336668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1357764957 171947 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1357765538 347897 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1357765589 669412 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. How about an esoteric programming language where every component of your program has a temperature. When components interact, temperature is transferred from the hotter one to the colder one. < 1357765593 689007 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a component gets too hot or too cold, it malfunctions. < 1357765596 388129 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program components get hotter as they are used. < 1357765713 510539 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And cool with disuse? < 1357765762 700871 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's just one specific component that coolls constantly. < 1357765779 359770 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if components just get more and more inaccurate as they heat, instead of having it be all or nothing? < 1357765821 331536 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice. < 1357765826 963338 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how that inaccuracy would be handled. like, arithmetic erorr, or bit errors? < 1357765841 371807 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I feel like maybe there should be a temperature range in which there are no errors at all. < 1357765843 521684 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could have, like, each part of the ALU be a component, and the hotter it is, the greater a chance of a bit flip < 1357765855 922782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the interpreter simulates the ALU so the bit flips can happen at any stage < 1357765880 699682 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, and each component has a different tolerance < 1357765884 636653 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the ALU is too hot, bits will start flipping randomly. If the ALU is too cold, bits will randomly fail to flip. < 1357765897 120634 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems a little bit less physically accurate XD < 1357765900 358531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i'm thinking of that von neumann paper about computing with inaccurate components. iirc they were analog but depending on the type of digital component that could be easy to figure out, like... oh there tswett goes. < 1357765913 262526 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking something rate-oriented would start fucking up the rate, etc < 1357765924 317532 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :analog seems like it'd fail more gracefully < 1357765937 674369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas random bit flips could really do like basically anything < 1357765955 216387 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1357765969 175190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There haven't been many esolangs designed by a group of people < 1357765977 800847 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only one that springs to mind is Wierd < 1357765995 527429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seem to have been several designed primarily by one person, with "helpful" ideas thrown in by stooges on #esoteric. < 1357766049 521127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1357766053 339735 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there was that one that definitely isn't an acronym < 1357766067 297250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1357766110 10269 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which didn't get very far < 1357766122 48593 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's successor, ABCDEF...G, which get even less far < 1357766620 757466 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1357766914 847198 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357766948 388759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357767147 458227 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357769293 710898 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-95-106.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1357769301 607960 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1357769334 896513 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pm me you waste of flesh < 1357769471 553034 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1357769560 272131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1357770396 662545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -r -f * < 1357770398 76787 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1357770404 455371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r -f * < 1357770430 531668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1357770433 188970 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357770443 14185 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ paste \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1357770458 210196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: OK i guess that's not what crashes it :P < 1357770485 587470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by itself, at least < 1357770565 99097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | tail -1 < 1357770566 821909 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :904) what is this set? sounds like shakespear Yes, that's what people often say about Chrono Trigger. < 1357770650 762352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess oerjan (helloerjan!) will logread this later and add quotes? <-- GreyKnight stole my job! < 1357770696 701822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run shred --force --iterations=10 --zero --remove canary # maybe this'll finally kill it < 1357770698 455768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1357770699 483356 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357770700 860110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357770704 715250 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:31 canary < 1357770705 746665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1357770717 401562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you know what a cocategory would be in Haskell? < 1357770720 211755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Or you. < 1357770728 310836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have: (_u :: forall p t s x. p t s -> Either (p t x) (p x s)) < 1357770738 159989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(_u :: forall p x. p x x -> ?) < 1357770746 290612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where ? is either Void or (p b a) < 1357770776 655257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought category was a self-dual concept. < 1357770792 843401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this looks like coidentity and cocompsition. < 1357770794 568233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1357770821 844928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, cute < 1357770834 159737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I didn't invent these operations, they arose naturally. < 1357770838 628020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they must mean something?! < 1357770841 97276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1357770941 990522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not ? = (), btw < 1357770958 302392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Void is the dual of () < 1357770967 363101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An operation :: p a a -> () wouldn't do you very much good. < 1357770969 771171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You already have () < 1357770999 209730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically with Void you are saying that there cannot be any p x x 'es < 1357771016 732407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1357771035 582149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: perhaps instead of the last you should have duals of source and target identities, those are sometimes used when doing categories without objects, i think < 1357771050 477089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1357771073 376741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These types come about naturally when you try to make an instance Category (Bizarre p a b) < 1357771078 376295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :p x x -> p x b _and_ p x x -> p a x < 1357771106 427170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By the way it's p b a, not p a b.) < 1357771111 977093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1357771122 811071 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1357771134 606083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, those look like reasonable functions, but they're not the functions I'm dealing with here. :-) < 1357771257 59853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad tutorial < 1357771258 557123 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of a monad as a spacesuite full of nuclear waste in the ocean next to a container of apples. now, you can't put oranges in the space suite or the nucelar waste falls in the ocean, but the apples are carried around anyway, and you just take what you need. < 1357771333 619723 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ok < 1357771378 753582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Sgeo < 1357771383 989926 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is a language nomad. He invented Metaplace sex. < 1357771415 52433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Sgeo is a language nomad. (Not to be confused with a language monad.) He invented Metaplace sex. < 1357771436 79325 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1357771484 766296 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? olsner < 1357771486 215606 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner seems to exist at least. < 1357771490 35861 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1357771529 163964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1357771555 164303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Why does everyone keep quitting when I talk, it's quite rude! <-- WELL IF YOU WANT AN EXPLANATION YOU SHOULD BE HERE WHEN WE JOIN. SHEESH. < 1357771555 334414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1357771734 275245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: When manages to overcome the nick restrictions and join IRC, I'm sure they'll be very confused. < 1357771765 180769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are nick restrictions? < 1357771806 202172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, your nick can't have < or > < 1357771830 348652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell GreyKnight Why does everyone keep quitting when I talk, it's quite rude! <-- WELL IF YOU WANT AN EXPLANATION YOU SHOULD BE HERE WHEN WE JOIN. SHEESH. < 1357771830 518889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1357772097 39824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772098 466786 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:43 canary < 1357772113 645469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1357772116 112821 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772117 835759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772121 20274 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:55 canary < 1357772138 473171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772139 509779 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:55 canary < 1357772177 719191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if the commit is never made when canary is removed, why would the modification date change... < 1357772199 743264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm wait < 1357772203 193791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772204 184736 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:55 canary < 1357772211 416926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1357772213 54426 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ paste \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1357772222 299191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch test < 1357772225 125782 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772232 527951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772234 32702 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:55 canary < 1357772243 574741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test >test < 1357772246 331166 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772250 183456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772251 661595 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:55 canary < 1357772259 58730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls test < 1357772260 129946 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1357772273 299748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -f * < 1357772276 225896 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `bin': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `etc': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `factor': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `ibin': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `interps': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `lib': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `luabuild': Is a directory \ rm: cannot remove `paste': Is a directory \ < 1357772283 363746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772287 548522 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:58 canary < 1357772298 81994 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION absords all three cookies lying outside the forcefield placed by GreyKnight ⌇⌇ 8-D ⌇⌇ .. . . < 1357772351 147100 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv canary canary_foo < 1357772351 492800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :absording them? you, you ... monster! < 1357772353 498349 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772361 442327 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772364 233910 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 22:59 canary < 1357772368 886886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1357772370 305994 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ paste \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1357772382 753102 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didnt move < 1357772386 561672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l `test < 1357772387 940165 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1357772390 826122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l test < 1357772391 856334 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 5 Jan 9 22:58 test < 1357772436 755375 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sh -c rm canary < 1357772437 878031 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: missing operand \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1357772472 611981 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sh -c 'rm canary' < 1357772475 16162 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772479 575253 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772483 225649 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 6 Jan 9 23:01 canary < 1357772524 583759 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat canary < 1357772525 622986 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tweet < 1357772532 557154 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo foo > canary < 1357772535 691810 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772538 278822 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat canary < 1357772539 372914 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1357772546 998899 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1357772573 927370 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run find . -name "canary" -delete < 1357772578 468415 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772584 14323 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772587 177340 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 9 23:03 canary < 1357772589 941370 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1357772593 997826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1357772595 30171 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1357772604 212270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1357772606 659298 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772608 733807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1357772611 269689 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1357772616 575653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772617 774350 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 9 23:03 canary < 1357772760 223303 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl <<< 'unlink("canary");' < 1357772761 598509 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open perl script "<<< 'unlink("canary");'": No such file or directory < 1357772774 925143 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl <<< 'unlink("canary");' < 1357772777 686001 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357772780 97301 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357772783 290972 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 9 23:06 canary < 1357772786 124181 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1357772809 352251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1357772812 106606 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1357772987 235871 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e 'unlink("canary");' < 1357772988 991747 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357773251 98133 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l canary < 1357773251 909332 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 9 23:06 canary < 1357773296 987971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are there any uses for kinds like (* -> *) -> (* -> *) -> * -> * <-- i think taking the product of two Applicatives has that type < 1357773346 997374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that kind < 1357773368 36031 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are uses for all kinds of kinds < 1357773411 796660 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1357773413 171309 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :61) i am sad ( of course by analogy) :) smileys) < 1357773414 545823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kind < 1357773416 359328 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :182) quintopia: that's offensive, i was in a mirror accident and now my second half is a permanent mirror typing is kind of difficult \ 206) hey speaking of young, some kinds asked me to buy some tobacco for them and i did, and then they were all likd "wow that guy's coool" when i told them i don't need their money \ < 1357773447 905589 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my, oklopol misleading the young < 1357773451 39488 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 206 < 1357773452 72983 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :206) hey speaking of young, some kinds asked me to buy some tobacco for them and i did, and then they were all likd "wow that guy's coool" when i told them i don't need their money < 1357773475 371614 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe he just knows stuff about tobacco and youth that the rest of us don't < 1357773639 284234 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote bored < 1357773640 327483 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :181) Oh. Stuff that uses actual physical numbers stemming from science. Bleh *gets bored* \ 258) elliott, incidentally, I started my explorations again after getting bored of the Himalayas. < 1357773658 693981 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote boring < 1357773660 71518 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :117) how does a "DNA computer" work. von neumann machines? CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. \ 183) My quotes are boring \ 342) yes i use the services of a psychic, but i'm consideri < 1357773674 740738 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 342 < 1357773676 455467 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :342) yes i use the services of a psychic, but i'm considering getting a live one since stuff like "hello $name, your first name $first_name has |$first_name| letters, so by using numerology we can tell ..." is getting kind of boring < 1357773729 884933 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines oklopol kidnapping a live psychic for fortune telling purposes < 1357774574 742685 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.169.78 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1357775295 795397 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric