< 1357948846 421926 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :volatile types? < 1357948853 60301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why are you trying so hard to get rid of kmc? < 1357948885 775143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, he's the worst person in the world and I hate him. < 1357948890 630668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Right? < 1357948928 908236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (I'm not.) < 1357948941 764252 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /etc/*-release < 1357948942 795963 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /etc/*-release: No such file or directory < 1357948966 863282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1357948975 172893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think consensus is that we approve of kmc < 1357949024 891613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the #esoteric seal of approval? < 1357949037 478883 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1357949044 742691 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is just jealous of his cool blog < 1357949066 43064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet kmc doesn't even get hate mail for his blog. < 1357949070 611342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH's blog is the true one to be envious of. < 1357949085 799906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You should notify me of updates to mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.com < 1357949086 830726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww <3 < 1357949110 36907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I guess you can notify me too, if you happen to notice them first. < 1357949114 161204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.co.uk < 1357949125 763993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.hebrew < 1357949135 581615 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's trying to tell me its address is http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.se/ < 1357949154 40346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure y'all are just misspelling http://mainisusuallyafunction.blogspot.no/ < 1357949155 98528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think that's spelled ".co.il" < 1357949215 551902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this mortal co.il < 1357949216 344468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know someone is going to buy .jew < 1357949233 292632 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely worth the thousands of dollars < 1357949244 445666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yes < 1357949258 81546 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did mentifex mention .jew < 1357949307 181898 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: on that note, I hadn't seen that hex-editing kernel module post < 1357949314 488229 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is magnificently horrific < 1357949319 658386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1357949334 136192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought linux modules had checksums but... not this one anyway < 1357949378 630243 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, he didn't :( < 1357949400 851403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you have a degree in crackpots or something < 1357949413 170849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from crackpottery barn < 1357949438 122196 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357949442 144881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is the best place to study crackpottery < 1357949442 314491 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1357949452 62855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#hi < 1357949454 161585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i just took a wrong turn in my life back in the day < 1357949458 756758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric oonbotti? < 1357949459 100015 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1357949473 437789 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greyknight would you help me with this debian installation of mono? i'm not sure why this doesn't work -> http://mono-project.com/DistroPackages/Debian < 1357949482 871799 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day you're just chucling at frakenstein surgery computer gangster boxes, and the next you're smoking kallisti cores off a schizo's back < 1357949490 418628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tempted to quote #haskell now < 1357949503 46530 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: one problem with installing things on HackEgo is commands timing out :-) < 1357949511 691460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You should do it. Hypocrisy is fashionable. < 1357949523 502609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's on-topic this time! < 1357949525 266324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike monads. < 1357949534 753518 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1357949538 187371 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it about lenses? < 1357949545 470431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1357949553 381590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about, uh, sheep? < 1357949562 804497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessssss the frakenstein surgery computer gangster boxes < 1357949569 343912 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric What would be here if what was here was shachaf's common sense? < 1357949570 30680 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c6-161.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1357949579 594433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gangster computer god world-wide secret containment policy!! < 1357949596 837385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally in Dungeons&Dragons game I got the spellbook. < 1357949608 479987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you can spell < 1357949627 156290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I have no idea what is going on. < 1357949637 537362 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another crackpot < 1357949655 355995 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Related: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html < 1357949656 43832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawyer who went nuts and wrote all these barely legible rants about communist gangster frakenstein surgery < 1357949675 91204 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: exactly what I was thinking of < 1357949685 996943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/containmentpolicy.htm < 1357949704 625803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a nice audio recording linked from there < 1357949723 348242 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that site's design < 1357949747 275349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four billion wordwide population - all living - have a Computer God Containment Policy Brain Bank Brain, a real brain, in the Brain Bank Cities on the far side of the moon we never see. < 1357949749 42356 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i get some "Permission denied" errors :/ < 1357949797 397562 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Brain Bank Cities! < 1357949801 917564 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see those < 1357949806 852284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worldwide as a Frankenstein slave, usually at night, you go to the nearby hospital or camouflaged miniature-hospital van trucks. You strip naked, lay on the operating table, which slides into the sealed Computer God Robot Operating Cabinet. < 1357949807 22341 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure i'd have the rights to install packages in the sandbox? < 1357949816 213394 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders when mannerisky was last here... < 1357949847 730702 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which seen < 1357949849 104773 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357949863 624315 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: everyone can write to it, that's why it's in a sandbox in the first place :-P < 1357949873 448252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAKE UP SHEEPLE < 1357949882 238844 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1357949884 992170 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: http://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/containmentpolicy/brainbankcities.jpg uh, HELLO, there's a picture RIGHT THERE < 1357949893 695646 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think `run has root access (inside the sandbox) < 1357949897 943723 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whoami < 1357949900 5893 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000 < 1357949911 942028 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch /this < 1357949913 661435 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :touch: cannot touch `/this': Permission denied < 1357949935 238883 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some restrictions < 1357949946 823080 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1357949947 854279 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: clicking takes effort -o- < 1357949954 977819 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak < 1357949979 783841 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname -a < 1357949981 157646 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.0.8-umlbox #2 Sun Nov 13 21:30:28 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1357950024 373943 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat the_list < 1357950026 131047 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo \ Fiora < 1357950027 827196 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`update < 1357950030 51322 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo Fiora: update < 1357950052 567433 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more forgetful incidents :-) < 1357950107 368177 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I expected something more city-like, disappointed < 1357950131 36062 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just make it a wisdom entry.. < 1357950131 722270 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor: would you please do me a favour and install the mono-packages? i don't seem to have sufficiant rights. only if you find some time to do so. Can you give me some feedback? I'd be gratful. < 1357950131 891614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1357950134 472819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i enjoy the way Francis E. Dec uses language < 1357950142 375758 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: "slow" < 1357950160 919170 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor http://mono-project.com/DistroPackages/Debian < 1357950161 88787 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1357950174 736058 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: perhaps the Brain Bank Cities on the moon would be a good spot for a D&D game. The illithids would love it there (perhaps they run the place) < 1357950177 845783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :his run-on sentences are mostly grammatical, except that a lot of them are just huge noun clauses < 1357950231 70710 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I should have written it in Haskell for the practice < 1357950266 498506 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls interps < 1357950268 227770 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l \ 2l \ adjust \ axo \ befunge \ bfjoust \ bf_txtgen \ boof \ build.sh \ cfunge \ c-intercal \ clc-intercal \ dimensifuck \ egobch \ egobf \ fukyorbrane \ gcccomp \ gforth_quit \ ghc \ glass \ glypho \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ Makefile \ malbolge \ pbrain \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ trigger \ udage01 \ underload \ unlambda < 1357950279 386733 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, no plof ,_, < 1357950332 496946 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write one :-D < 1357950346 521784 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no plof on the wiki < 1357950355 519499 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember how to compile it < 1357950367 294851 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plof.codu.org/wiki/ fwiw < 1357950371 918472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plof is not esoteric < 1357950383 53420 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more* links to click? < 1357950385 917022 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enoughs < 1357950397 526480 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough* even < 1357950410 128875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/update < 1357950410 817044 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$(cat the_list | xargs -d'\n'): update" < 1357950411 847278 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But neither is Haskell!! < 1357950418 433160 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1357950419 860920 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ gktemp \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ karma \ lib \ luabuild \ paste \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ test \ the_list \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1357950436 688775 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it clearly knows how to run haskell programs < 1357950449 988736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that was why it's not on the wiki, not why it's not in interps < 1357950453 115998 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is confusing enough to count as an honorary esolang :-) < 1357950458 92737 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1357950459 807684 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls usr/bin < 1357950460 895578 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can hackego's `update compete with sgeo's personality < 1357950463 299637 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access usr/bin: No such file or directory < 1357950467 155961 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /usr/bin < 1357950468 187656 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[ \ 2to3 \ 2to3-2.6 \ a2p \ addpart \ addr2line \ aot-compile \ appletviewer \ apropos \ apt \ apt-cache \ apt-cdrom \ apt-config \ apt-extracttemplates \ apt-ftparchive \ apt-get \ aptitude \ aptitude-create-state-bundle \ aptitude-curses \ aptitude-run-state-bundle \ apt-key \ apt-mark \ apt-sortpkgs \ ar \ arch \ as \ awk \ axi-cache \ base64 < 1357950476 830010 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I doubt it. < 1357950482 78364 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`install sgeo < 1357950482 434512 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /usr/bin | paste < 1357950483 867116 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /usr/bin | paste: No such file or directory < 1357950484 37455 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :install: missing destination file operand after `sgeo' \ Try `install --help' for more information. < 1357950486 10852 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /usr/bin/[ < 1357950487 723520 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....ð@.....@.......(z..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....À.......À............................@......@............................................@.......@.....Ìu......Ìu........ ............Ðu......Ðu`.....Ðu`.....p.............. ...........øu......øu`.....øu`..... ....... ................ < 1357950491 895353 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /usr/bin | paste < 1357950492 925696 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1357950496 19585 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14597 < 1357950501 516216 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv sgeo $(which update) < 1357950503 922803 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot stat `sgeo': No such file or directory < 1357950504 92568 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe I should've file'd it first :-) < 1357950563 991456 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how HackEgo contains /usr/bin/aptitude-curses, how are we supposed to use that?! < 1357950632 176041 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries it in private, gets expected garbage < 1357950644 141686 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`aptitude-curses < 1357950657 653713 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357950689 629027 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1357950708 255370 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[?7h[?1000h[?25l[?1c Actions Undo Package Resolver Search Options Views Help < 1357950716 173991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty < 1357950730 774563 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | less < 1357950732 150109 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | less: No such file or directory < 1357950732 837109 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1357950736 276584 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | less < 1357950738 906253 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 57 e0 19 43 83 b8 be 92 4c 8a 68 87 c6 5f ae df |W..C....L.h.._..| \ 00000010 66 50 15 32 bb 8f 48 a2 fc 58 78 50 35 b3 7c 31 |fP.2..H..XxP5.|1| \ 00000020 31 a5 c2 7d 4f e5 1d 2b 02 5f 5e e6 63 f6 88 ab |1..}O..+._^.c...| \ 00000030 02 49 5f 89 48 b1 68 bc 09 be 4f 99 0a d6 20 a3 |.I_.H.h...O... .| \ 00000040 ca da 4f c6 ab 0 < 1357950746 499784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not pretty < 1357950755 90969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run base64 /dev/urandom < 1357950756 808979 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mVJnSjwftK95Zyx8f8GkXRRlJ8chsnslHIlp1XzcR4mdgOzg26oUZoLIjXfrg6/G5MHnco1wSQdW \ F1VQnLnImapZhyLkqwVWb7QskNTJofO008uTsucre/cvYXZACci97uy8NU3egKs4aEtqQXaqe4/Q \ j3uhPl0xLBA5dqYBt8VaHVrwaiVEnCogIgRmr88yXZNR8D67BGwPeTwZkkTq5xEMTeT/8XOwb9LD \ wXL/eYryzlJZ9ZJzc9PVWtYOvXfynYERs8NfR8zg8RDtVxcC/33Fq/3GojBhJXSbcjoEg7F9mtIE \ Lj/WdVicmyLDKLzNXi+0Vix98JU6HGaIXd < 1357950760 245937 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -C | vi - < 1357950789 514890 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@mcdevs/trusted/sircmpwn QUIT :Changing host < 1357950789 690131 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1357950795 353638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -la /proc/self/fd/ < 1357950810 938317 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1357950819 531066 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: you alive? < 1357950823 698450 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vim: Warning: Output is not to a terminal < 1357950825 448420 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :total 0 \ dr-x------ 2 5000 5000 0 Jan 12 00:33 . \ dr-xr-xr-x 7 5000 5000 0 Jan 12 00:33 .. \ lr-x------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 0 -> /tty1 \ l-wx------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 1 -> pipe:[66] \ l-wx------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 2 -> /tty1 \ lr-x------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 3 -> /console \ l-wx------ 1 5000 5000 64 Jan 12 00:33 < 1357950827 855369 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1357950829 573954 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, good < 1357950841 902848 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I think I heard that monads are about something involving overloading burrito operators in an endospacesuit category. I don't know, it sounds pretty complicated." < 1357950861 290344 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endospacesuit < 1357950863 15837 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :endospacesuit? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357950869 237390 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cospacesuit < 1357950870 267175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tty1? < 1357950874 771458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run stat /tty1 < 1357950874 941182 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim takes about a minute to start up apparently < 1357950876 921352 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat: cannot stat `/tty1': No such file or directory < 1357950886 256438 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: That shouldn't happen < 1357950893 881342 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the timeout is after about a minute < 1357950901 581801 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that is when the output is collected) < 1357950908 184737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run stat /console < 1357950909 959251 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat: cannot stat `/console': No such file or directory < 1357950922 888302 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo echo echo < 1357950923 919666 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo echo < 1357950935 104067 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try implementing an infinite list in bash < 1357950937 549688 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sleep 2; stat /tty1 < 1357950941 60998 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat: cannot stat `/tty1': No such file or directory < 1357950946 254961 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes :D | tr -d '\n' < 1357950947 627396 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D: < 1357950980 901182 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pipes are partially lazy :D < 1357950982 339512 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo 8; yes =; echo D) | tr -d '\n' < 1357950984 810350 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :8============================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================= < 1357951027 114058 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1357951060 671576 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes '_,/`¯`\\,' | tr -d '\n' < 1357951062 427301 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\,_,/`¯`\\, < 1357951063 837095 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f5e3.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: good night < 1357951071 476299 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy < 1357951078 846233 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm too many \s < 1357951085 233764 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try double quotes < 1357951085 404201 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes '_,/`¯`\,' | tr -d '\n' < 1357951086 952709 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\,_,/`¯`\ < 1357951089 393746 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1357951112 755909 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom | tr -cd 'A-Za-z' | tr -d '\n' < 1357951114 644125 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :TLXJzjqIVvmotKMELfBLqdaOtHHwMkUotikPSoBjreENxPzqmMHeEzWSSlOOCrIXOXNVCjwXUGBDqyAKmDzUcYRHQOcXaGfuuNzOJfBGckRYARPutXorbAiUeHtNndjMWIiSUBbTftqzLatYZSccvCTCztlMSAhqBzTwroHUXEUWQYhqQktWFZIxaNbIvcNxOzjJxqTzxfdKDiTWKqyxsqLpKExeQIHkmZTGZahJomZlvBGhvhHIWoGhrUzNmqZVLJjFtnczPrmGjWmcqQwXGFWuTYSBhtskvEaCmolUrxGRjvKYdWIRbKBMNqINyClAhOtcHlVVWdIAfTEFVzdJPGrfCaEBMi < 1357951124 763551 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like base64 < 1357951145 681530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are y'all spamming the channel < 1357951146 708069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it < 1357951154 611233 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom | tr -cd 'A-Za-z' | tr 'A-Z' \\ | tr 'a-z' / < 1357951154 955511 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sowwy < 1357951155 984873 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr: warning: an unescaped backslash at end of string is not portable \ //\//\\\\//\///\\\\\\////\\\\//\\\/\\/\\\/\/\\/\/\/\\//\//\\\/\\//\/\///\///\\\//\\//////\///\/\\\\\\///\\\\/\\\\\/\///\\\/\///\\\\\/\/\\/\/\\\//\//\//\/\\\/\\\\\//\\////\//\\\/\/\\///\///\//\//////\/////\\//\\///\//\\\\\/\/\\/\//\\///\\/\\\////////\\\//\///\\//\/\\\/\////\///\\ < 1357951164 377682 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah spamming is shachaf's job :-U < 1357951258 740362 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1357951276 389360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes //\//\\\\//\///\\\\\\////\\\\//\\\/\\/\\\/\/\\/\/\/\\//\//\\\/\\//\/\///\///\\\//\\//////\///\/\\\\\\///\\\\/\\\\\/\///\\\/\///\\\\\/\/\\/\/\\\//\//\//\/\\\/\\\\\//\\////\//\\\/\/\\///\///\//\//////\/////\\//\\///\//\\\\\/\/\\/\//\\///\\/\\\////////\\\//\///\\//\/\\\/\////\///\\ < 1357951305 902810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, why is that the same as the /dev/urandom tr'ed output? < 1357951321 494144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets suspicious < 1357951323 899826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1357951328 411593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's you saying it not a bot < 1357951356 579486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPOOOOKY < 1357951368 837068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan isn't a bot? < 1357951371 414770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it starts with // no wonder it output nothing < 1357951394 866049 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we know for sure oerjan isn't a bot? < 1357951407 614066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all humans are bots, duh < 1357951418 257494 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ö < 1357951441 54230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan < 1357951441 398517 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom | tr -cd 'A-Za-z' | tr 'A-Z' \\ | tr 'a-z' / | head -c 10 < 1357951443 777303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are just programmed not to believe it < 1357951444 160009 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr: warning: an unescaped backslash at end of string is not portable \ //////\//\ < 1357951452 578111 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/urandom | tr -cd 'A-Za-z' | tr 'A-Z' \\\\ | tr 'a-z' / | head -c 10 < 1357951455 332650 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\\\\\\//// < 1357951457 395621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tr -cd '/\' < /dev/urandom < 1357951459 804517 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr: warning: an unescaped backslash at end of string is not portable \ \/\//\\\\//\\////\\\//\////\/\\/\\\///////\/\/\\//////\/////\//\////\////\\////\////\\/\/////\////\///\//////\\\////\\//\\\\\\\///\////////\/\\///\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/\///\//\/\///\\//\\\//\///\/\\\///\\\/\/////\////\\/\\//\/\/\\/\/\////\\/\//\\\\//\\//\/\\//\\\\\/\/\\\/\/\\//\\/\/\\/ < 1357951461 875045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp -a bin/quoerjan bin/quørjan < 1357951465 802980 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357951470 67064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quørjan < 1357951472 131757 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :585) But wait what if I'm using a quantum computer <-- there is "quantum entropy". it's the same except no one understands it. \ 16) oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 59) * oe < 1357951481 649803 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`shachaf < 1357951490 276489 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: shachaf: not found < 1357951497 551538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run declare -a x=('╱' '╲');while true;do echo -n ${x[$(($RANDOM%2))]};done < 1357951510 103529 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╲╱╠< 1357951512 546733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sometimes think shachaf seems a little obsessed with me, what do you think? < 1357951522 984678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Just with your name. < 1357951526 518167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a great name < 1357951531 527223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true < 1357951539 73541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could say ørjan all day. < 1357951542 580234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :character encoding fails? < 1357951545 643097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ørjan ørjan ørjan < 1357951576 600362 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any english words with /ø/? < 1357951585 589091 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run declare -a x=('╱' '╲');while true;do echo -n ${x[$(($RANDOM/4%2))]};done < 1357951587 880100 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╠< 1357951588 989300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ønglish < 1357951593 113371 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :place names? i can't think of any loanwords < 1357951611 203633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a lone word. < 1357951615 770188 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh or do you mean the phoneme < 1357951620 62613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott subtly(*) hints that shachaf is obsessed with _everyone_. (*) that is, he didn't actually say it < 1357951633 161337 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the phoneme < 1357951640 402484 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kisses shachaf to break the obsession curse < 1357951645 903094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: very subtle < 1357951695 519488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: wikipedia says it's present in south african english "bird". < 1357951761 178738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a børd? is it a plejn? < 1357951785 654157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do printf "\xe2\x95\xb$(($RANDOM%2+1))"; done < 1357951786 881346 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╲╠< 1357951789 282198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffs < 1357951824 950446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do LC_ALL=en_US.utf-8 printf "\xe2\x95\xb$(($RANDOM%2+1))"; done < 1357951827 103420 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╠< 1357951891 525281 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "bird" is pretty close < 1357951925 454557 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, somewhat close < 1357951937 68175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is now subtly(*) angry at me for referring to things he said in private, especially when he never said them. (*) ARGH STOP HITTING ME WITH THAT < 1357951968 212194 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION subtly swats oerjan -----### < 1357952203 711530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all these copycat swatters around these days < 1357952206 707662 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-197.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1357952206 877307 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-197.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1357952206 877413 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1357952364 163705 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Monad < 1357952365 226897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `Monad' < 1357952400 687662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats the copycats -----### < 1357952455 854283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What did he actually say to you? < 1357952458 988169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Monad < 1357952460 23592 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(* -> *) -> Constraint < 1357952954 71856 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Monad_tutorials_timeline < 1357952972 444775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ. < 1357952986 613402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true; do printf "\e[3$(($RANDOM%3+2));1m\xe2\x95\xb$(($RANDOM%2+1))"; done < 1357953039 813946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is it just me or does that slow down the longer you leave it running? < 1357953145 412004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of terminals suck at scrolling non-ascii chars < 1357953257 149825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :urxvt < 1357953299 156373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: shachaf: sorry, i said too much stupid. < 1357953352 271657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(much more stupid than whatever elliott said, anyway.) < 1357953610 274574 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`monad-tutorial < 1357953611 948554 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All space stations must put their astronauts into space suits before sending them out. < 1357953631 295876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1357953635 775167 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/monad-tutorial < 1357953637 496524 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ shuf -n 1 wisdom/monad-tutorials < 1357953650 540268 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: prints random monad analogies from a list :-) < 1357953657 331666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`monad-tutorial < 1357953658 711773 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All space stations must put their astronauts into space suits before sending them out. < 1357953662 740760 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all actual examples of the breed scoured from the internet) < 1357953676 396391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`monad-tutorial < 1357953678 208497 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are like burritos. < 1357953691 703356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the burrito thing is not from an actual monad tutorial. < 1357953711 814377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote copumpkin monads.are < 1357953712 24220 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: monads are like monad tutorials < 1357953712 194128 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah but it's funny so. < 1357953716 383632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote copumpkin monads.are.just < 1357953716 553426 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. :( < 1357953721 213076 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I like that one < 1357953721 556727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote copumpkin terminal < 1357953721 901215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin says: a monad is just a lax functor from a terminal bicategory, duh. fuck that monoid in category of endofunctors shit < 1357953723 421720 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote monad < 1357953723 591594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :psykotic says: the reader monad is your friend. trust the reader monad. be happy! < 1357953738 662002 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/monad-tutorials < 1357953738 957633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad tutorial jokes are the most overdone thing in the universe < 1357953740 379629 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are a bucket brigade with project managers. \ Monads are like burritos. \ Think of a monad as a spacesuite full of nuclear waste in the ocean next to a container of apples. now, you can't put oranges in the space suite or the nucelar waste falls in the ocean, but the apples are carried around anyway, and you just take what you need. \ All sp < 1357953743 849124 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is bad < 1357953744 179720 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Monads are like monad tutorials." >> wisdom/monad-tutorials < 1357953747 157507 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357953747 882039 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/monad-tutorials < 1357953751 31763 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357953752 142104 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote burrito < 1357953752 342176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jmcarthur says: web monads are unicorn burritos that have been laying around in the attic for a few years < 1357953753 507383 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/monad-tutorial < 1357953756 633242 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357953760 292533 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote burrito < 1357953760 462074 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: une monade est comme une crêpe. una mónada es como un burrito. eine Monade ist wie ein Strudel < 1357953765 659600 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: >:-( < 1357953772 60695 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up about monad tutorials shut up shut up shut up < 1357953777 164308 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote monqy < 1357953777 334280 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `quote' failed with: getRandItem: empty list < 1357953781 251157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks monqy < 1357953783 854803 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rude < 1357953787 834371 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'rewelcomechaf < 1357953802 107033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what's a better topic to talk about < 1357953811 138 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> words "Yep, these are words." < 1357953811 341846 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about lens :-) < 1357953812 715582 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["Yep,","these","are","words."] < 1357953819 463065 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens tutorial < 1357953825 846515 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote lens < 1357953826 16856 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :roconnor says: a lens is a monoidal natural transformation between higher-order coalgebra functors, what's the problem? < 1357953842 679728 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote coalgebra < 1357953843 334741 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :roconnor says: a lens is a monoidal natural transformation between higher-order coalgebra functors, what's the problem? < 1357953843 680116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a monad may have hurt monqy once < 1357953851 995089 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lens < 1357953853 779965 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lens is just a store comonad coalgebra. < 1357953861 27181 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i understand a positively weird amount of that question < 1357953862 744815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? store < 1357953864 399638 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :store? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357953871 935108 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologies for not having the same sense of humour as monqy I guess (!) < 1357953888 495235 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coalgebra < 1357953890 281929 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coalgebra? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357953891 778300 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad tutorial jokes are old as heck < 1357953900 787636 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? heck < 1357953902 698461 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1357953905 468143 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh okay, I'll go turn myself in to the Fun Police immediately < 1357953933 273926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy is right btw < 1357953948 748522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Heck is where you end up if you don't believe in Gosh. < 1357953958 936212 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad tutorial jokes are older than programming < 1357953960 879949 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want to know what an endospacesuit is for, though < 1357953962 261332 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1357953986 491036 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly related to endoscopy? < 1357954037 25984 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r gktemp < 1357954040 986252 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357954042 15817 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -r luabuild < 1357954042 360137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been movies about that. < 1357954047 690131 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357954070 78751 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about luabuild < 1357954071 518658 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1357954111 239412 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/update the_list < 1357954112 528789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do new versions of C allow duplicate definitions? < 1357954116 958659 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357954163 625157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: are you removing everything you added to the bot because monqy removed one thing you added to the bot < 1357954208 471198 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I removed two temp directories and a bit of humour which nobody cared about? < 1357954219 40909 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "shachaf, elliot" > the_list < 1357954222 609303 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357954231 103603 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's gotta be newline separated < 1357954246 503431 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i applaud the sentiment though < 1357954246 710741 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1357954260 63518 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e "shachaf\nelliot" > the_list < 1357954262 651841 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357954329 70841 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1357954329 181424 NAMES :#esoteric < 1357954380 137372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1357954380 162611 NAMES :#esoteric < 1357954488 469997 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly I only found a handful of monad tutorial things which were halfway amusing. Most of the hits for "monad tutorial" are people complaining about how many monad tutorials there are < 1357954520 637773 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the next level is people complaining about how many complaints there are about how many monad tutorials there are? < 1357954535 680806 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's when it's time to just lay down and smoke a bit < 1357954571 844491 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :setting fire to yourself is not the answer Bike < 1357954591 239451 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1357954594 993780 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it worked pretty well in africa right < 1357954704 224842 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1357954731 937429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy was tunisian, right? < 1357954739 976581 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep he was. go me. < 1357954767 333113 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he got a postage stamp! < 1357954966 412258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ! < 1357954983 971989 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-142-102.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357955072 68381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1357955142 348660 :GreyKnight!~GK@82.132.249.215 QUIT :Quit: zzz < 1357955158 112891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way in a C program to tell to open a file with read-only and not allow other programs to write to that file while this program keeps it open for reading? < 1357955192 636961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I don't think that's something you can do in portable C < 1357955205 604016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :different operating systems have different forms of (advisory or mandatory) file locking < 1357955208 455634 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something you need os-dependent locks for < 1357956154 909388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any such section (in ELF and so on) as a section which cannot read/write/execute but is guaranteed to be unique pointers, which is not valid and is not the same as any valid pointers? < 1357956248 314691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :.section .zzo < 1357956325 764392 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 PART :#esoteric < 1357956666 783187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in ELF you can have custom sections of any name with whatever permissions you like < 1357957222 816870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can the system and the programming language support such things which I specified? < 1357957883 820019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand totally what you mean < 1357957885 192364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably < 1357957971 103831 :augur!~augur@rrcs-98-101-208-48.midsouth.biz.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1357958126 295095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :System and Method to Support Such Things Which I Specified < 1357959359 661607 :mig21a!~mig@119.234.1.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357959365 543001 :mig21a!~mig@119.234.1.18 QUIT :Client Quit < 1357959503 792627 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accordion #3! < 1357959504 136086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1357959521 66359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How many of them are chromatic button accordions? < 1357959536 88 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Zero! This is three because #1 is in Oregon and I sold #2. < 1357959545 689347 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were all roughly equivalent accordions. < 1357959548 659711 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1357959550 34549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should acquire a chromatic button accordion. < 1357959554 883318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would be a happier person. < 1357959557 292634 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I would love to. Ain't gonna happen. < 1357959574 648084 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think you understand. My initial goal was a chromatic button accordion. Piano accordions are meh. But it just isn't going to happen. < 1357959591 284462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better no accordion than a piano accordion! < 1357959606 903559 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well now you're just being silly. < 1357959618 94787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How about a concertina? < 1357959620 522590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Better no news than good news," goes the old saying. < 1357959628 180173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the sane ones. < 1357959628 867800 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Concertinas aren't even chromatic! < 1357959634 739147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Some of them are! < 1357959643 404498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one layout, what's-it-called. < 1357959663 283922 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently some of them are, quoth Wikipedia. < 1357959671 729946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the popular layouts? < 1357959704 334031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hayden, was it? < 1357959757 435138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.concertina.com/fingering/images/hayden-W1350H480.gif < 1357959766 144320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks chromatic to me. < 1357959786 279102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's also not that kind where it makes a different note when you push and pull. < 1357959789 101874 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia suggests English, German, and various variations on them. English is unisonoric (thank Jebus) and chromatic. < 1357959823 61370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unisonoric, that's the word. < 1357959828 286603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you read about that asterisk exploit < 1357959850 559118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No! I should read that. < 1357959855 732063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has too many tabs open. < 1357959905 782659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are there five uppercase letters in the diagram, and others are lowercase? They don't even have all of the notes with uppercase. < 1357959934 325647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think it's the opposite of ' < 1357959942 627700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like people sometimes do with integrals!) < 1357959958 372608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So F' = f < 1357960047 307801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1357960062 520356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how "bit" and "octave" mean the same thing? < 1357960128 625552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How do I tell a good concertina from a bad one? < 1357960152 598809 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Personally, I wouldn't buy one without playing it first. < 1357960163 487387 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's brand new from, e.g., Hohner (if they make concertinas) < 1357960215 10811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But I don't know anything about playing concertinas. < 1357960223 354543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I've never played any musical instrument. < 1357960309 743865 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had never played a piano accordion when I bought my first one. I just read up enough and tested what I could figure out. All that's important is that all the reeds make sound (both on push and pull), and that it sounds nice. < 1357960361 292203 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1357960770 950485 :augur!~augur@rrcs-98-101-208-48.midsouth.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1357960971 884417 :augur!~augur@rrcs-98-101-208-48.midsouth.biz.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1357961047 803522 :augur!~augur@rrcs-98-101-208-48.midsouth.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1357961079 386649 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, Fiora if you didn't see it there was a recent update < 1357961143 787119 :augur!~augur@rrcs-98-101-208-48.midsouth.biz.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1357961186 353319 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo can you move me from this list to the supermega list. shachaf can replace me on this list. < 1357961201 502092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: im already on another list........... < 1357961203 642910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the supermega list < 1357961209 5997 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list for super mega < 1357961215 814219 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need my super mega updates < 1357961307 67966 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to be on the super mega list too yes < 1357961354 256391 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott did you see it's been updating recently!! it's a christmas miracle < 1357961377 785911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i did not. i often find it hard to tell whether i've seen a super mega comic before or not though < 1357961416 628363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after looking at the first and last super mega comics - are you actually following this? < 1357961438 527497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um super mega is fantastic < 1357961458 536923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1357961540 240147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: how can you see http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=385 and not laugh. a: maybe you're a zombie?? a skeleton, other misc. forms of dead and undeadness < 1357961633 582470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks his pulse < 1357961641 306490 :monqy_!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357961655 178287 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1357961667 670795 :monqy_!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :monqy < 1357961679 385989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess if i'm dead i could be imagining my pulse. < 1357961712 317640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are dead you should not do anything. < 1357961735 915295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I DON'T ASCRIBE TO YOUR SENSELESS LIMITATIONS < 1357961754 191235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't? < 1357961761 104050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you did. < 1357961777 678296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe i did chuckle from the sheer absurdity of that comic. a little. < 1357961797 160504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: WELL YOU WERE WRONG < 1357961813 821017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1357961825 670996 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357961854 424217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i find the evidence that elliott isn't being sarcastic inconclusive. < 1357961874 92723 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can assure you super mega is 100% verygood < 1357961897 120036 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it has spurious quotation marks < 1357961929 749737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my inconclusion stands. < 1357961966 36495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry I actually do find super mega genuinely hilarious < 1357961972 225047 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1357961981 402973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1357962185 440471 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will not maintain a super mega list < 1357962233 106411 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat the_list < 1357962235 173794 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf \ elliot < 1357962262 298330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`update < 1357962263 732675 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: update: not found < 1357962265 877332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just guessing.) < 1357962283 385356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@id hm < 1357962283 555332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm < 1357962308 27778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @id (@tell elliott testing) (@tell fizzie testing) < 1357962308 198222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Consider it noted. Consider it noted. < 1357962308 198404 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lack of sgeoinality was the primary issue with update v. 1. maybe we can avoid that problem if sgeo is the architect of v. 3. < 1357962310 588054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (cat the_list; echo update) | xargs # is that the syntax? < 1357962310 758024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1357962311 977657 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf elliot update < 1357962316 811471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1357962316 981231 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 9s ago: testing < 1357962322 139090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What an unexpected message! < 1357962362 673979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice < 1357962362 845026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1357962366 233604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1357962366 404895 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 58s ago: testing < 1357962394 911196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay I have to go catch a train.) < 1357962450 572651 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357962506 166919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have recorded the most recent Dungeons&Dragons session (from four days ago), except the experience points. < 1357962527 189037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@read "test ho" < 1357962527 530840 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : test ho < 1357962571 5079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the command in C to shorten a file? < 1357962588 328936 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :head < 1357962674 482860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@id hi) < 1357962674 816522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi < 1357962681 86506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ (@id hi) (@id hi) < 1357962681 256554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi hi < 1357962722 874445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @@ @read @run concat ["(\64tell " ++ s ++ " testing)" | s <- ["elliott", "oerjan"]] < 1357962724 328270 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Consider it noted.You can tell yourself! < 1357962735 835847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1357962741 371466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:45 I offer: sequence_ (intersperse (threadDelay 100000) (map (putStrLn . show) the_list) < 1357962755 628543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1357962755 798338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1357962757 393300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it an omen? < 1357962759 267330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1357962759 437224 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 35s ago: testing < 1357962781 76520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I wanted this kind of sequencing before, but I forget what for. < 1357963233 586363 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.235.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357963505 135590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat the_list < 1357963506 231842 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf \ elliot < 1357963521 20206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm the_list < 1357963524 118187 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357964360 622269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['a'..'z'] < 1357964361 653889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz" < 1357964492 961427 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['ad'..] < 1357964494 411730 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Syntax error on 'ad' < 1357964494 581702 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you intended to use -XTemplateHaskell < 1357964496 499626 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw. < 1357965138 840669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sequence [['a'..'z'],['d'..'z']] < 1357965140 215543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["ad","ae","af","ag","ah","ai","aj","ak","al","am","an","ao","ap","aq","ar"... < 1357965187 707337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ["ad"..] < 1357965189 82078 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Enum.Enum [GHC.Types.Char]) < 1357965189 251722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the arithm... < 1357965192 525007 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah! < 1357965282 127288 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip replicateM ['a'..'z'] =<< [2..] < 1357965283 503014 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["aa","ab","ac","ad","ae","af","ag","ah","ai","aj","ak","al","am","an","ao"... < 1357965537 746376 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357966514 201084 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1357966799 647199 :augur!~augur@rrcs-98-101-208-48.midsouth.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1357968939 798071 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1357969130 246335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://depts.washington.edu/sibl/Publications/Cheryan,%20Plaut,%20Davies,%20&%20Steele%20(2009).pdf < 1357969133 422654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'People can make decisions to join a group based solely on exposure to that group's physical environment... In Study 1, simply changing the objects in a computer science classroom from those considered stereotypical of computer science (e.g., Star Trek poster, video games) to objects not considered stereotypical of computer science (e.g., nature poster, phone books) was sufficient to boost female undergraduates' interest in computer s < 1357969203 47713 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how can we make it more pink?" < 1357969277 679973 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I suggest a sucker < 1357969283 545499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elephants < 1357969342 385859 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the freshman cs lab had some poster of a BSD joke up, how stereotypical is that on the scale < 1357969401 70230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11.3 < 1357969410 96042 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted < 1357969500 223580 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: doly surround sound typical < 1357969530 801145 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dolby? < 1357969535 544740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, dolly parton < 1357969542 236326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1357969553 688614 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: tis a pun < 1357969571 173032 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck puns < 1357969580 638045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 fuck puns < 1357969580 982069 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shpx chaf < 1357969614 161537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close < 1357969620 691505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more edgy version of shachaf. < 1357969645 474269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also good morning from a train. < 1357969670 720815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an early one. < 1357969706 633060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 good morning < 1357969706 976166 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbbq zbeavat < 1357969768 472654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bourre beaivi < 1357969784 436655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that cut off at "in computer s" fwiw < 1357969799 484264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are you a train again? < 1357969832 18893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i misunderstood < 1357969855 59229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i though shpx chaf was good morning from a train. they're not known for having the best PA systems. < 1357969889 932720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, I am a train again. < 1357969895 503383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait does fizzie take a train every morning? < 1357969908 828568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1357969915 581416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fizzie is a train every morning < 1357969930 852599 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fizzie ever not a train < 1357969936 721778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he is or does he ain't? < 1357969958 329572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get that line split whatever < 1357969972 866139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'...was sufficient to boost female undergraduates' interest in computer science to the level of their male peers.' < 1357969996 551784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: happy train < 1357969999 301986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer du lyver < 1357970023 14400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does this thing keep reconnecting all the time. < 1357970062 518251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The number of this train is "1". < 1357970079 232672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is obama on it? < 1357970095 19479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You're number 1. < 1357970111 106025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not Train Force One, no. < 1357970135 110415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come there's no train force < 1357970160 278044 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me, i haven’t played OpenTTD for quite a while. < 1357970166 246271 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did deewiant write fizze < 1357970170 385730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some armies had great success with trains in the 19th century < 1357970188 739323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly they probably did not fight from them < 1357970207 886929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe trains are not terribly useful for an invasion. At least to a place with no railways. < 1357970229 196881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why russia uses a different rail gauge from germany < 1357970231 387577 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :trains are indispensable for supply lines < 1357970237 882528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the prussians won a major war with austria due to it.) < 1357970238 313734 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :armored trains are the shit though. < 1357970253 101696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what about for defense against invasions < 1357970272 958016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: doesnt sound too difficult to deal with. just build a multigauge train carriage < 1357970294 261978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an obstacle though < 1357970297 699713 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they actually did that a few times < 1357970305 722406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :germany already had a bunch of equipment on one gauge and would have to modify it to invade < 1357970311 827598 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, the problem is that you have your shitload of trains already and retrofitting them would take a lot of time and money < 1357970321 119419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :germany was probably modifying it anyway < 1357970326 670998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable gauge systems are used in spain today < 1357970337 335023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess it's kind of hard to justify "WE NEED TO REBUILD OUR TRAIN CARRIAGES" to an oblivious military planner < 1357970337 680715 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they output some high quality qar shit < 1357970341 192017 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*war < 1357970371 98515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think trains were indispensible in the first half of 20th century for moving tanks and artillery to the general battle area < 1357970383 785659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to drive a tank hundreds of miles, they break down and consume enormous amounts of fuel < 1357970397 425986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days you would use airplanes or huge fuckoff trucks instead < 1357970412 216805 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both! < 1357970414 353047 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the downside, they did klystron instead of vacuum magnetron for radar which was probably their biggest mistake < 1357970430 149571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in WWI they had some small railways in the trenches, using temporary equipment based on mining railways < 1357970453 993410 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the whole pakistan truck block and related resortion of the US military to planes cost a shitload of money though < 1357970455 895846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_gun also there's this. < 1357970468 200100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, finland and sweden use different gauges < 1357970491 883958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sought it with thimbles, they sought it with care; / They pursued it with forks and hope; / They threatened its life with a railway-share; / They charmed it with smiles and soap. < 1357970493 259665 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... did different american rail companies use different gauges in order to be shitlords to one another? < 1357970500 699790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sometimes < 1357970511 93075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the streetcars in philadelphia are nonstandard gauge for this reason i believe < 1357970516 507631 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1357970543 775881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wanted to not get taken over by the commuter rail company (i'm not sure why) < 1357970564 743812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainline railroads had lots of through-running on other people's infrastructure via trackage rights < 1357970573 264262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as frequent mergers, splits, etc < 1357970584 981398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there there was more call for standardization < 1357970586 700184 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and governments I guess weren't smart enough to go 'fuck you standard guage' < 1357970588 764566 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1357970595 306276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1357970600 227566 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, in the 19th century? < 1357970606 767333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav is I think what I was thinking about when I mentioned railway guns. < 1357970618 32837 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the one they only fired like once, wasn't it? < 1357970627 721893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and had shells larger than some small tanks < 1357970642 356404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they changed the gauge in the south of the US in one weekend < 1357970674 296419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Over a period of 36 hours, tens of thousands of workers pulled the spikes from the west rail of all the broad gauge lines in the South, moved them 3 in (76 mm) east and spiked them back in place.' < 1357970692 461067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The twin guns weighed nearly 1,350 tonnes, and could fire shells weighing seven tonnes to a range of 47 kilometers (29 mi)." < 1357970723 622657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finland uses Russian Close Enough Gauge < 1357970733 92329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: man that sounds tedious < 1357970735 502125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1524 mm instead of the standard Russian gauge of 1520 mm < 1357970742 774963 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. I'm trying to write a set theory into Coq. I wrote that anything can have an element, but only a set can be an element. < 1357970774 550277 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good ol' reverse set theory... < 1357970788 97517 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1357970793 368310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: sounds perfectly right for gödel-von neumann-bernays theory < 1357970796 559147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't you call them "cosets" for maximum hipsterability? < 1357970802 482537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the USSR had rail-launched ICBMs too < 1357970820 610969 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the US did too for a bit? < 1357970836 391833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was planned but not implemented < 1357970854 483353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you can see one launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BCoBGdvyiQ&t=0m42s < 1357970899 909772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then from a truck < 1357970909 833741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be exciting to be inside the truck when this happens < 1357970911 900332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't fire while moving. shame < 1357970915 721456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can bomb more < 1357970916 61869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yes < 1357970941 964151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another odd Windows-people thing is that they associate the idea of a language-level exception with some sort of OS-provided facility. < 1357970982 778469 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1357970989 18106 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ, that launch < 1357970999 119281 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sorta pops up and them WHAM rocket < 1357971044 939636 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and according to the description the train one is called a Satan. < 1357971073 24115 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's just the nato name. < 1357971085 865499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the NATO code for it < 1357971123 633081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your pizza in 30 minutes or the next one is free < 1357971143 42661 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i can find a video of one of them fancy chinese carrierfucker missiles yet. probably not quite as explosive as an icbm, but still neat < 1357971202 753882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hybriddiplomacy.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/pizza.jpeg < 1357971223 45103 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they got pretty bored in those silos, didn't they. < 1357971240 72341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine there was a tremendous amount of masturbation < 1357971266 224029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinky! < 1357971412 503417 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1357971433 46227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1357971553 367511 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1357971728 250081 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, what would a reverse set theory look like, anyway? < 1357971747 93145 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i can think of is reverse mathematics, which is kind of not the same < 1357971761 386824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the weirdest. The SSH connection has not completely disconnected even once, but the port-forwarded IRC one has done it five times. < 1357971784 555172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the client has some kind of too eager timeout. < 1357971815 448122 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZFC is essentially a set of first-order axioms for V. V is constructed by starting with the empty set, and taking the powerset On times. < 1357971880 646186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Got anything to say about Peano axioms? < 1357971895 796010 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that depends on whether you mean the first-order ones or the second-order ones. < 1357971913 36492 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're talking about the first-order ones, rumor has it they actually have multiple models. < 1357971958 775457 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :V_0 is the empty set; for all a, a is not an element of V_0. For any ordinal number n, V_(n+1) is the power set of V_n; for all a, a is an element of V_(n+1) if and only if a is a subset of V_n. < 1357971967 584083 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what if you just reverse all those "element of" relations? < 1357971983 600024 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call the result M, for obvious reasons. < 1357972027 674553 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all a, a is not an element of M_0. < 1357972059 378253 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, no, that's not reversed. < 1357972064 392555 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all a, M_0 is not an element of a. < 1357972066 237057 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's more like it. < 1357972089 209141 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :M_0 cannot be contained by any set. It's the yo mama set. < 1357972106 995144 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it the set of all sets (except itself)? < 1357972157 275944 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps. < 1357972210 880719 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :M_1, then, is the... co-power-set of M_0, I guess? For all a, M_1 is an element of a if and only if a is a subset of M_0. Does that make sense? < 1357972250 456794 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to. M_0, being yo mama, must be really huge, so this would mean that M_1 is an element of everything. < 1357972259 616030 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about: M_1 is an element of a if and only if M_0 is a subset of a. < 1357972311 867666 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now M_1 is an element of M_0 and nothing else. < 1357972386 696339 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-142-102.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1357972454 516902 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee. V is what you get if you allow "all conceivable sets", under the restriction that there can't be an infinite chain of sets where each set contains the next. < 1357972565 734260 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you just flip the element relation, and talk about reverse sets, then... sets behave quite like they did before, except it's like the element relation has been flipped. < 1357972792 672336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: aka axiom of foundation < 1357972852 612275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you reversing that too < 1357972878 298706 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :set theory where well-founded sets aren't allowed < 1357972898 513597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1357972943 888596 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh non-well-founded set theories just remind me of this shitty paper about how they supposedly are needed in biology, though < 1357972962 422410 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1357972969 63347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi monqy < 1357972972 327312 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1357972974 585256 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this about lens < 1357972974 929315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know anything about Codensity? < 1357972977 371433 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: ) < 1357972978 410764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1357972985 56472 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've "heard things" < 1357972991 998623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Density < 1357972993 473829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the dual" < 1357973000 274171 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't heard much about it < 1357973012 290825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you know how Codensity is just the result of >>= right < 1357973022 717243 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1357973048 218243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's Density < 1357973057 377930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it "the input to <<="???? < 1357973072 501934 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a question to which you know the answer < 1357973083 108575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1357973086 338148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just trying to figure this out < 1357973091 2812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Density k a where Density :: (k b -> a) -> k b -> Density k a < 1357973104 749317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's existential over the b < 1357973125 658641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(<<=) :: Comonad w => (w b -> a) -> w b -> w a < 1357973156 748920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, aczel's theory is what i joked about, and was the thing in the paper. go me < 1357973182 171755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er no it doesn't mandate cycles in the graphs i guess. eh < 1357973256 646247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: so like can you tell me what it means < 1357973258 47999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1357973307 986358 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1357973387 98150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all are just being dense < 1357973459 445969 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it sure LOOKS like the input to <<=....... < 1357973480 780366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but what's that existntial doing there............. < 1357973485 15167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess it makes sense? < 1357973489 978666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't know what b is < 1357973492 757369 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357973495 632324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still apply it to <== < 1357973498 518737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :<<<= < 1357973501 86509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wthat thing < 1357973503 608837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1357973506 121089 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357973514 982406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's good right? < 1357973517 111526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it good for < 1357973524 730176 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfff who knows < 1357973531 120675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you "get" comonads < 1357973536 202919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what they're good for and stuff < 1357973539 689060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just what they are < 1357973546 917305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like intuitions < 1357973586 790992 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh istr knowing "how they work" and "how to use them" but i forget what theyre good for < 1357973676 960220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw Codensity m is bigger than m right < 1357973687 609697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Codensity (e ->) = State e?? < 1357973704 590590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Density < 1357973757 363418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: btw super mega is "pretty good" < 1357973766 140201 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :super mega is art < 1357973767 553358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the feeling it might get old though?? < 1357973770 403861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it get old < 1357973799 883372 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :super mega gets un-old, and it also never updates < 1357973807 315877 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always fresh < 1357973823 273631 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you read it backwards it might get old though, but that's just how things go < 1357973830 420886 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent tried it < 1357973835 2111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i read it forwards < 1357973866 730895 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newer stuff is generally better than the older stuff < 1357974160 673251 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1357974174 784336 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Client Quit < 1357974338 59725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :53 is pretty good < 1357974369 378171 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357974389 107458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else is pretty good < 1357974407 464 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :68 < 1357974438 536378 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/images/332.gif < 1357974506 855626 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see http://www.supermegacomics.com/images/385.gif linked earlier it is good < 1357974543 227801 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else is good < 1357974553 507103 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh so much < 1357974557 115011 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should find them for yourself < 1357974686 296787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1357974698 968076 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/images/353.gif < 1357974775 919186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw 62 has a grammar mistake < 1357974779 755730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says it's instead of its < 1357974784 79831 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1357974787 253627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i really want to read a comic with mistakes < 1357974829 683005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :head is a dinosaur is great < 1357974908 164639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you remember the girl scouts in psychonauts < 1357974939 204830 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl scouts......maybe??? vaguely < 1357974978 851624 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the rainbow squirts??? < 1357974986 891786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1357974988 264020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those < 1357974998 781894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference anyway < 1357975003 72855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know "american culture" < 1357975014 107875 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a list? < 1357975015 138883 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1357975018 727305 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ egobot.tar.xz \ etc \ factor \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ foo \ foo.err \ foo.out \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ quotese \ run \ share \ test \ wisdom \ zalgo.hs < 1357975036 512695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: For what? < 1357975043 178807 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1357975044 268688 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? \ @ \ WELCOME \ addquote \ allquotes \ anonlog \ botsnack \ calc \ define \ delquote \ emoclew \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ google \ hatesgeo \ interp \ joustreport \ jousturl \ json \ karma \ karma- \ karma+ \ learn \ log \ logurl \ lua \ luac \ luarocks \ luarocks-admin \ macro \ maketext \ marco \ No \ pastaquote \ < 1357975044 992702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What do you think of dinosaurs? < 1357975046 61789 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but i've got great names for everyone else's hypothetical sons! love! hate to break up with utahraptor." then, hey presto, you're a muslim! give me a challenge to me!! < 1357975062 480234 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's on the list, I forget < 1357975067 135929 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is elliott on the list < 1357975081 323577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :71 is < 1357975085 538786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1357975086 226559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Which list? < 1357975092 807416 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The list list < 1357975101 660659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1357975142 665386 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora" > bin/list < 1357975146 216146 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357975151 419000 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to test it < 1357975154 168644 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~list < 1357975156 255067 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1357975157 679457 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /hackenv/bin/list: Permission denied \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /hackenv/bin/list: cannot execute: Permission denied < 1357975165 571372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can put me on the super mega list. < 1357975167 669663 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod a+x bin/list < 1357975170 458576 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1357975175 684016 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not maintaining the super mega list < 1357975178 122371 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1357975179 229551 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora < 1357975200 992935 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy are you on the list < 1357975206 273451 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on the super mega list < 1357975221 894283 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so you're not on the existent list < 1357975228 314426 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: elliott is not on the list, but elliot is. < 1357975289 649351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: did you link 78 here before < 1357975299 122397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that someone else/somewhere else???? < 1357975313 550915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well-founded people are not on the list. < 1357975326 331315 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably somewhere else? < 1357975335 525441 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhen else???? < 1357975427 556661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: So any idea what these operations should be? < 1357975437 497176 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :operations?? < 1357975446 39310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p a -> p (a,b); p a -> p (Either a b); p (a,b) -> p a; p (Either a b) -> p a < 1357975450 338536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :te ones from before < 1357975452 402033 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh those operations < 1357975460 415656 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they should just be themselves < 1357975479 691884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they're weaker than co/contravariance. < 1357975490 301043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can apply them to Endo (Endo a = a -> a) < 1357975505 841074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> (a,b) -> (a,b) < 1357975521 87179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it seems like there ought to be a better version of them? < 1357975752 692387 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said something earlier about generalising to an arbitrary (co)monad?? < 1357975867 80220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1357975906 730017 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a : NS, forall r : N -> N -> Prop, a realizes r <-> forall x : N, x in a <-> exists y z, x = pair y z /\ r y z < 1357975930 993202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well instead of ((b,a) -> a) you can have extract < 1357975945 596181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: and instead of (a -> Either b a) you can have return < 1357975948 919189 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357975956 919456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does that truly help you < 1357975962 307158 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1357976045 998372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can you somehow reduce this down to only 2 operations < 1357976143 818661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's "kind of tricky" because Endo is Lensy and Prismy < 1357976149 390590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not Unlensy or Unprismy < 1357976159 906960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lensy :: p a -> p (s, a) < 1357976164 544777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prismy :: p a -> p (Either s a) < 1357976169 929213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1357976181 662907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1357976193 130171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there some general thing that (a,b) and Either a b are, like a functor or whatever? Tuple a b and Either a b < 1357976223 782773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1357976231 593039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are functors, they are also swappable but I don't know what else they would be < 1357976234 840178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b,) is a Functor, and (Either b) is a Functor < 1357976242 854609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're also bifunctors but I think that's less relevant? < 1357976257 500619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By swappable I mean to make (a,b) to (b,a) and (Either a b) to (Either b a)) < 1357976315 980019 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh, can't you have one operation p a -> p q a b to subsume p a -> p (a,b) and p a -> p (Either a b) < 1357976341 414865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really? < 1357976343 704744 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a pqab < 1357976363 440412 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p (q a b) < 1357976386 269765 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not really" is a good answer imo < 1357976392 733584 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1357976434 500411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The issue is that one of these behaves like mapping and the other behaves like contramapping. < 1357976458 433695 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i even ask what the difference between contramapping and comapping is < 1357976476 479533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :map :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1357976483 153416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :contramap :: (a -> b) -> f b -> f a < 1357976498 182049 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1357976518 117407 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats ... about it < 1357976534 657243 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that actually do < 1357976545 396057 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"depends on the instance" < 1357976547 544818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wrote: ... < 1357976550 92178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean: !!! < 1357976604 441747 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i did not mean that. < 1357976624 446538 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: how about List since that's the easydumb one for me. < 1357976632 937261 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :list isn't contravariant :-) < 1357976652 238354 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right forget me go back to your whatevers < 1357976669 973070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have questions ask them..... < 1357976673 622226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "what's an example" < 1357976679 93694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty good question?? < 1357976697 268681 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok sure, what's a good example? < 1357976714 727259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what < 1357976720 738591 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a contravariant functor. < 1357976741 895258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Op a b = Op (b -> a) < 1357976748 698790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait let's simplify < 1357976754 802789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predicate a = a -> Bool < 1357976757 974760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's contravariant < 1357976761 168181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write < 1357976770 676458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :contramap :: (a -> b) -> Predicate b -> Predicate a < 1357976774 622976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"think about it" < 1357976822 980097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example if we have a machine that can classify cats (thats the predicate) < 1357976828 681568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we can turn a dog into a cat < 1357976835 235299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we can build a machine that can classify dogs < 1357976855 518093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhh. < 1357976924 819533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy huh < 1357976935 441481 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that crazy, which is why it's nice < 1357976945 14750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's pretty simple < 1357976947 867063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of it this way < 1357976960 292641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a vague general sense, a covariant functor "produces" things < 1357976965 226082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a contravariant functor "consumes" things < 1357976974 703046 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a pretty vague sense < 1357976985 358183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all that vague < 1357976995 669792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example [a] "produces" as < 1357977002 830158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a list of 'a's) < 1357977007 924330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might produce 0 'a's < 1357977013 204426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it might produce a lot < 1357977016 347982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's always producing < 1357977027 463371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bool -> a) also produces 'a's < 1357977036 318730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other things < 1357977040 994674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also produce < 1357977085 546239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok it's "kind of vague?" < 1357977088 394431 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is map Predicate remotely useful < 1357977088 739244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night monqy < 1357977094 125193 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proxy a is my favourite 'a' producer < 1357977107 912925 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Const b a comes in close 2nd < 1357977121 774732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i kinda prefer "data Help a" < 1357977127 712919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie Const Void < 1357977134 701154 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh yes < 1357977137 868229 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.good < 1357977170 954509 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well if you have the cat classifier and a cat->dog transmogrifier........... < 1357977172 392963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw remember my logarithm class < 1357977196 42075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think monqy is implying "theres not much you can do" < 1357977204 154714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're "out of luck" < 1357977206 300624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"game over??" < 1357977215 99428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no" is like, one word < 1357977224 658634 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok < 1357977228 284429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be very useful < 1357977231 178656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just can't write it < 1357977237 784551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well you can in this case) < 1357977242 403838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it wouldn't obey the laws) < 1357977248 471956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAW NUMBER 1 < 1357977252 875504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :contramap id x = x < 1357977260 908431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that's all you need in haskell i think?? < 1357977286 899528 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1357977296 912453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :law number 2: "the rest of haskell" < 1357977317 826094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: it's because of "parateremicity" < 1357977322 84096 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1357977326 797326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it works for functors < 1357977335 405173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess why wouldn't it work for contravariant functors < 1357977337 925633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1357977347 680228 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hvaent thought about it < 1357977348 750960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but actually i'm not quite sure what the proof is < 1357977357 656151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't know...... < 1357978182 323939 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parametricity? < 1357978387 310514 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep thinking of covariant as being on the result side of a function and contravariant as being on the input side < 1357978405 620226 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1357978426 379158 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a non-function example of a contravariant functor? < 1357978457 345238 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, input side isn't contravariant as much as it is negate variance, I think < 1357978541 901375 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1357978545 793391 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora < 1357978594 342000 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ``check out'' an instance list at http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/contravariant/0.2.0.2/doc/html/Data-Functor-Contravariant.html < 1357978601 486420 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there are more instances they just aren't on that list < 1357978607 603540 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe you'll get an idea??? < 1357978673 484797 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predicates are functions < 1357978682 29306 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comparisons are functions < 1357978690 257510 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Equivalences < 1357978699 288189 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well arent you mr. picky < 1357978720 231078 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about id < 1357978778 343825 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1357978798 686993 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk what you mean by id but bye bye < 1357978824 985986 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id k < 1357978826 370141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : k < 1357980912 759846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have four energy! < 1357980990 506517 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357981085 770145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to add some command or parameter or something to Internet Quiz Engine to allow four boolean questions to take up one byte of the selector string, but am not quite sure. < 1357981736 404632 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1357983697 855215 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357983859 745347 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numberwang is the best thing ever < 1357985449 974380 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.50.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357987208 698744 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's time for wangernumb < 1357987796 626152 :mekeor!~user@dslb-092-074-090-157.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1357987810 532979 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357988407 256978 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, is the German one in actual German, or nonsense? < 1357988431 744608 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1357988820 728399 :Zerker!~zerker@cpe-24-24-168-181.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1357988849 309143 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357989262 969512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1357989408 710918 :Zerker!~zerker@cpe-24-24-168-181.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1357989833 430062 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1357990559 380089 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1357990613 467369 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357991391 211109 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-197.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1357991391 380522 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-197.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1357991391 380695 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1357991393 705112 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1357991604 596235 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1357991605 970989 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora < 1357992186 670727 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No idea < 1357992194 737584 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which list < 1357992196 114711 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/list < 1357992209 403124 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat list | paste < 1357992214 215653 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: list: No such file or directory \ http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3232 < 1357992221 785629 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/list | paste < 1357992226 151125 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21316 < 1357992245 679355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> k < 1357992247 53985 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : k < 1357992252 371908 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src k < 1357992252 541073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. < 1357992256 684894 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::info k < 1357992264 530652 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::list k < 1357992294 366882 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x y z -> cos x + cos y + cos z < 1357992294 536829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip flip cos . (((.) . (+)) .) . (. cos) . (+) . cos < 1357992314 30924 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there a command named list that is "echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora" < 1357993278 775685 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/16ffph/reddit_cofounder_aaron_swartz_commits_suicide/ < 1357993290 413827 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it pings people when there's a homestuck update < 1357993309 117564 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think sgeo set it up < 1357993336 407415 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It pings people when I use it. I might be AFK or sleeping when there's an update < 1357993346 257147 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus skip that list ping < 1357993359 121396 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you need to like. hook it up to an rss thing < 1357993397 727673 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't taneb, atriq and ngevd the same person? < 1357993483 8266 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, yes, but too lazy to try to figure out how to make it figure out which one he's using < 1357995305 231496 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1357996132 751666 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-197.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1357996132 960117 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-197.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1357996132 960259 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1357996535 813671 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: actual german < 1357997183 623098 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357998622 863588 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.235.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357998945 139212 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357998957 256283 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1357999008 588272 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1357999042 140411 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1357999560 337708 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.235.242 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1357999572 692036 :iamcal_!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dwjlebaytdkfoxnv QUIT :Quit: Planned maintenance, back soon < 1358000218 840481 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1358001551 963047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can't find an open-source editor to change my file smoothly, how terrible an idea is it to just open the .docx as a .zip and change the text I need in there? < 1358001607 249147 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awful < 1358001614 861236 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will go to hell < 1358001716 680609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should try it out anyway though. < 1358001740 101722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd like to know what happens.) < 1358001770 506276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus it's just hell, right? < 1358001883 297164 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LibreOffice refuses to open, Google Docs says "file:///home/sgeo/Downloads/resume-2013-01-12.docx" < 1358001891 311698 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's not what Google Docs says < 1358001903 368841 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sorry, we are unable to generate a view of the document at this time. Please try again later." < 1358002050 120242 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a boring result. I was hoping for something more exciting. < 1358002213 340430 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358002215 269197 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358002394 425904 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if I just use Microsoft Office Live... < 1358002410 235124 :iamcal_!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xhhbhixfmteyykcr JOIN :#esoteric < 1358002452 833965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose Google Docs can edit too? < 1358002473 569791 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Google Docs does something with the spacing that makes it into 2 pages when it was originally one page < 1358002538 379302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And LibreOffice does something silly too? < 1358002664 919786 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LibreOffice does the same thing < 1358003122 370145 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft Office Live, in edit mode, did some weird thing where it ignored some tabs, or at least didn't look like they showed up, but in view mode they were there < 1358003125 54303 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it was enoygh < 1358003129 935176 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough < 1358003775 809901 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358004258 535564 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1358004920 361328 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1358005287 899803 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358005307 353820 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358006967 659539 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-142-102.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358007595 449434 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1358008112 808865 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1358008199 839902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A whole new kind of monad tutorial! http://i.imgur.com/rxec4.png < 1358008496 897513 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358009773 630107 :mig22!~miguelort@bb116-15-66-100.singnet.com.sg QUIT :Quit: mig22 < 1358010596 192061 :sploknee!~sploknee@137.205.52.73 PART #esoteric :"wait shit i'm still banned" < 1358010788 923192 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1358011652 233261 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358012082 25405 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realm of the Mad God reminds me a very little of Mutation < 1358012107 671747 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that there's an end boss and everyone in the world is affected by the fight and by defeating the boss < 1358012197 676003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Which lists am I on now? < 1358012216 621535 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "if I remember, and see OOTS update, I'll tell you" list < 1358012233 672629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the super mega list? < 1358012245 748514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that one other list, I've forgotten what it's called. < 1358012401 797582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1358012600 822152 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358012837 499665 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358013541 950495 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358014134 945651 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1358014135 153490 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1358014135 153660 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358014177 727641 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358014643 256292 :NickOfCourse!5218f8cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.24.248.207 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358014903 267499 :NickOfCourse!5218f8cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.24.248.207 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1358016104 191784 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1358016161 476547 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1358017706 40513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1358017858 907228 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358017975 340535 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358019426 358510 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1358019430 550520 :AnotherTest!~user@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1358019434 26330 :AnotherTest!~user@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1358019436 520567 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Client Quit < 1358019531 174411 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you're not on those lists, even if you think you're on those lists, because I'm not thinking about those lists < 1358019588 316996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not really fair. < 1358019617 908724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, add shachaf to the lists < 1358019629 493152 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can add shachaf to the list list < 1358019641 900139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo shachaf >> bin/list < 1358019647 402979 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358019652 659134 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358019654 31931 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora \ shachaf < 1358019665 673466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oops < 1358019672 378817 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how I'm 60% of the lsit < 1358019690 792798 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, can you add a way for HackEgo to see the channel's userlist? < 1358019708 467109 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would be too lazy to use that functionality, probably < 1358019729 975915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/shachaf// the_list < 1358019731 355599 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read the_list: No such file or directory < 1358019742 229313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/shachaf// bin/list < 1358019744 999935 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358019755 162000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/Fiora/Fiora shachaf/' bin/list # fixed < 1358019758 609620 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358019762 139454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358019762 969468 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora shachaf < 1358019763 908667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect. < 1358019857 853755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/shachaf// bin/list < 1358019861 211310 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358019906 606325 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358019908 446816 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora < 1358019931 589232 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 75% of the list, and I'm gonna see it at the same time as Sgeo now < 1358020091 726672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You left a trailing space. < 1358020098 278937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1358020100 683924 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1358020130 906006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't care. < 1358020136 446277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run sed -i s/shachaf// bin/list < 1358020145 587978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like trailing spaces, you fix it. < 1358020147 654127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/shachaf// bin/list < 1358020152 25341 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358020163 923724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly's Pokemon Card puzzle seems something wrong with it; it doesn't seem to work. < 1358020182 726905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not the one changing bin/list! < 1358020257 2335 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo echo \''tail -n +2 $0 | paste -s -d" "; exit 0'\' \>\$1\;chmod +x \$1 > bin/makelist < 1358020260 606357 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358020301 198922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... etc < 1358020490 574868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, paste is not the normal paste in hackego < 1358020704 23046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Realm of the Mad God would be more interesting if death was a total reset < 1358020738 971668 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than "Oh, you can keep items in vaults, more if you pay RL money, and you accumulate fame over time that doesn't reset on death that gives you stuff" < 1358020777 297173 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps Realm of the Mad God is not interesting under any circumstances < 1358020853 452022 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do generally like the idea of stats not being a permanent account thing though < 1358020862 263871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's also a thing that interests me about LoL < 1358020877 271377 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although in both LoL and RotMG, there are permanent stats) < 1358020963 689195 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i bin/list 1s/$/shachaf nortti/ < 1358020964 678008 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1358020970 534480 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358020987 235245 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1s/$/shachaf nortti/' bin/list < 1358020990 53759 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358021026 501379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti.................................................. < 1358021030 376533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/list < 1358021033 537597 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358021036 317490 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :y? < 1358021039 773804 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-wh < 1358021044 934707 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*why? < 1358021072 138176 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1358021074 979902 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1358021079 226180 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358021080 606477 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/list: No such file or directory < 1358021087 206046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1358021101 553457 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1358021103 717893 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1358021108 845316 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358021110 263196 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/list: No such file or directory < 1358021113 401371 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 4 < 1358021117 534399 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How tall is Michael Cera < 1358021134 590198 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora shachaf nortti' > bin/list < 1358021134 933861 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1358021137 410441 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358021148 304150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/list < 1358021150 734354 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358021151 444822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not on that list. < 1358021157 286777 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti' > bin/list < 1358021160 98930 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358021181 78179 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys whats up (is it dumb) < 1358021191 441779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no (yes) < 1358021195 351776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1358021195 522415 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1358021212 543381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, nortti is capable of reading Homestuck? < 1358021227 332362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. < 1358021234 511049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Please don't use `revert if you don't know how it works. < 1358021260 488509 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1492 < 1358021266 718880 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One commit before `revert 4.) < 1358021273 850862 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1358021483 956444 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358021611 813207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358022207 430848 :ssue!u5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjpkwyvloadipsoy QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358022320 792461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: 106 is good < 1358022341 259122 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti' > bin/list < 1358022344 63027 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358022350 647683 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 106 < 1358022352 693822 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :106) [...] i'm a law student so i am loving my bread machine < 1358022367 554062 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo " elliot" >> bin/list < 1358022371 12276 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358022371 211158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 53 < 1358022372 546652 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :53) both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in? < 1358022385 978841 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin/list < 1358022387 757997 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/list < 1358022389 475859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i nominate quote 53 for deletion < 1358022392 399287 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358022393 832303 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti \ elliot < 1358022400 61918 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1358022437 570303 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:06 < Sgeo> Wait, nortti is capable of reading Homestuck? <-- at least I think I am. it seems to work with seamonkey 1.1.19 < 1358022448 633034 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358022450 6651 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti \ elliot < 1358022475 629945 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i '2d;1s/$/ elliott/' bin/list < 1358022476 659977 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1358022487 950336 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i '2d' bin/list < 1358022489 24947 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1358022501 725914 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, even the flash animations? < 1358022503 181756 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2d;1s/$/ elliott/' bin/list < 1358022506 382397 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358022509 782984 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And HTML5 games? < 1358022523 730142 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no html5 < 1358022532 529924 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash should work < 1358022546 883262 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to check that out < 1358022550 435523 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The HTML5 games are kind of important < 1358022561 543790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1358022561 889166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could watch YouTube videos of people playing them < 1358022572 887972 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1358022578 183946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1358022580 409419 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1358022590 109691 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358022591 496774 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti \ elliot < 1358022603 305379 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i 2d bin/list < 1358022604 750546 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1358022611 721396 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 2d bin/list < 1358022614 695903 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358022622 732691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always put an -e for the expression there. < 1358022629 37735 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1358022634 534295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i like FLOAT FAR REMOTE too < 1358022641 190318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well part 6 < 1358022670 44893 :ssue!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bajgqyiclgizojjl JOIN :#esoteric < 1358022706 485274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's not strictly necessary. < 1358022729 104265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also part 9 < 1358022758 328606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and part 10 < 1358022773 695975 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358022775 828357 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti < 1358022776 51933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the ban list is the opposite order today of what it was yesterday < 1358022801 428542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot recall that i was on a different server... < 1358022891 17442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have to say I kind of like this Swype-style keyboard. It feels a bit like what I imagine the draw-runes-in-the-air magic in the Death Gate books to be. < 1358022896 523823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there is some weird reversal when servers retell it to each other... < 1358022937 997397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you see the ban list oldest first or newest first? :P < 1358022985 310257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i see newest first today, but it was oldest yesterday) < 1358022991 254320 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it oldest first < 1358023000 717611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see oldest first. < 1358023016 953364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1358023169 892454 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358023207 465588 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358023208 151340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think the lines are longer, they are wrapping now and i suspect the "by gibson.freenode.net, " wasn't there yesterday (and that's my current server). < 1358023400 38602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=133 < 1358023471 519779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From /mode ... b or from ChanServ? < 1358023543 990313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just /ban in irssi < 1358023564 825297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/mode #esoteric -b gives the same < 1358023823 888786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 141?? < 1358023905 54080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Proxy a is my favourite 'a' producer <-- that's _both_ covariant and contravariant, i'd think < 1358023922 240435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since a isn't used at all < 1358023960 175840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if there is any essential other way to get a type that is both < 1358023987 797402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, also Const < 1358024017 825707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Friend a where Map :: (a -> b) -> Friend a -> Friend b; Contramap :: (b -> a) -> Friend a -> Friend b < 1358024020 224700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTH. < 1358024023 431249 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK, that violates the laws.) < 1358024046 232039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The thing with Void? < 1358024052 128891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's all special cases of Const. < 1358024065 834000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Const (), Const Void, Const HiMonqy < 1358024115 498233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :147.. maybe < 1358024126 495143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was newest first. < 1358024145 749239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sorry, a bit busy.) < 1358024223 556586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When will they make Vatican III? < 1358024301 378109 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358024351 643677 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well let's see, vatican i was in '68 < 1358024361 666878 :Taneb!~nathan@host-78-146-174-7.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358024366 159306 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, by linear extrapolation, about 2059. < 1358024375 330615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wasn't the first one in the 19th century. < 1358024382 528880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1868, yes. < 1358024388 381476 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may have had a bit much coffee < 1358024419 504554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well the current pope isn't very big on having doctrine changed, i think. < 1358024440 888004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I thought Vatican I just went back to thousands-of-whenever-the-fuck ago. < 1358024455 732760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catholicism: what's up with that?? < 1358024457 149394 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah they weren't in the basilica < 1358024459 211833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they called them councils back then < 1358024466 414077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that. < 1358024474 906086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicea is rather from rome, i assume < 1358024475 252731 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all named The Council Of Wherever The Fuck We're Meeting, so < 1358024509 944697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm indeed it's vatican council as well iirc < 1358024534 257619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it will be Cybervatican3000.com III < 1358024552 276658 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, apparently nicea is called Ä°znik now. cool. < 1358024570 422728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unlike the five earlier General Councils held in Rome, which met in the Lateran Basilica and are known as Lateran Councils, it met in the Vatican Basilica, hence its name. Its best-known decision is its definition of papal infallibility." < 1358024590 170235 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is attempting to upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 to a non-obsolete version < 1358024607 172637 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fails < 1358024608 595745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=164 < 1358024615 320936 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is attempting to actually go through with a silly idea elliott had the other day < 1358024632 344456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: REPENT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE < 1358024635 24023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Papal infallibility is rare, however I have read once that the way it was originally done was by popes doing bad things, however they corrected it since then. < 1358024637 136452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq: Um. What idea? < 1358024639 580710 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1358024649 537408 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, text-diagrams < 1358024654 789197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion on the Catholic doctrine and tradition and so on? < 1358024669 182420 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, traditioooooooon < 1358024670 273267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give it 7/10. < 1358024671 194499 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tradition < 1358024673 909430 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1358024674 79552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That was more "a thing I'm working on" than a one-off idea. < 1358024674 594066 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tradition < 1358024680 789182 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how far have you got with it? < 1358024689 347308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches it fail < 1358024689 691565 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paste.ubuntu.com/1524824/ < 1358024690 670384 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1358024694 249150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote What is your opinion on the Catholic doctrine and tradition and so on? i give it 7/10. < 1358024697 778691 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :912) What is your opinion on the Catholic doctrine and tradition and so on? i give it 7/10. < 1358024709 131433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, I don't know of a resolution to the fundamental problem I discussed with kmc yet. < 1358024717 920494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.supermegacomics.com/index.php?i=170 < 1358024734 344392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That isn't very specific. < 1358024741 602074 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(honestly not sure how one is supposed to answer that question. "it's pretty cool"? "i think they need more hats"?) < 1358024806 788070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either. Still is isn't very specific, though. < 1358024839 389113 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a very specific question! < 1358024871 674206 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm just diving in and seeing how far I get < 1358024877 772529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: should i have put a [...] between those? Taneb commented on the same thing but i don't think it adds to the joke. < 1358024886 449781 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, nah < 1358024901 806528 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making an injoke which nobody here could reasonably get < 1358024912 315723 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['a','\NUL'] < 1358024913 691260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "a\NUL" < 1358024914 378257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: fiddler on the roof? >:) < 1358024923 771963 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's deeper than that < 1358024937 298800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1358024942 260080 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My school's youth theatre made that bit ridiculous < 1358024948 109116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1358024955 730210 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything that vaguely sounded like "tradition" would get sung that way < 1358024963 953748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elisioooooooooon < 1358024976 84284 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :auditiooooooooooon < 1358024991 80775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the elision there is fine < 1358025006 977583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only when lots of time passes or there's a significant amount of noise that would change the interpretation of the quote do you need a [...] < 1358025027 518976 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote insanity < 1358025028 897783 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :412) There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...] You've just gave me a different result [...] It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur. < 1358025082 673567 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example of quotelision < 1358025084 961814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to youtube to find how it actually sounds < 1358025112 833902 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358025116 630040 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kyrie, kyrie, kyrie elision < 1358025131 913135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, do you agree/disagree/neutral of things in the Catholic church, doctrine, and tradition; and if you think some things should be changed, their relation to things doing in other parts of the world, their relation with scientific things, and so on? < 1358025153 471032 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i think the pope should shut up about condoms? how about that? < 1358025159 207427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree with the catholic church on many points < 1358025174 340768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, that is the kind of things I meant. < 1358025189 703538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Condoms and homosexuality mainly < 1358025197 961413 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an asexual, these are big issues for me < 1358025213 979672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I, too, disagree with the Catholic church on many points. < 1358025220 767293 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's the main thing. other than that catholicism seems mostly easier to deal with than the protestants presently attempting to run the government < 1358025236 673349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, that is also the kind of things I meant to ask. < 1358025244 27269 :AnotherTest!~user@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1358025261 48264 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK, it seems every single religion out there is trying to run the government < 1358025262 423888 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example i think they've been cool with evolutionary theory for at least a century or so < 1358025335 703999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think so. < 1358025408 693314 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you asking this? < 1358025434 467478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "Do or do not, there is no why." -- tolkein < 1358025434 805932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard once that the local diocese said that they respect homosexuality but would not have them married and things like that, but other people thought they said the Catholic church hates homosexuality. I agree that the church needs not have them married; you can go elsewhere there is a lot of everything all around. < 1358025440 743850 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358025462 43920 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would love not to be his step-mother's 411 service < 1358025471 899340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read a book yesterday about Catholic catechism; I disagree with most of it but I agree with a few. < 1358025472 587230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what does 411 do? < 1358025497 912377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree with humanist doctrine, for one thing. < 1358025498 310234 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information, I think, find out a phone number given a business? < 1358025522 47591 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, that is what I was just asked to do, so not certain whether "411" was an accurate description < 1358025522 613580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also disagree with Trinity; it is completely illogical. < 1358025535 32981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you say it is symbolic, though, then I am OK with it (but still don't need it). < 1358025537 813041 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's some old-skool heresy right there < 1358025553 233548 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what's wrong with humanism? < 1358025587 397821 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say humanity is the most important thing in the universe. I disagree; it is just one of many everything in the universe. < 1358025620 355356 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's equally or more important? < 1358025620 700146 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humanity is the most important thing to humans, and to me that's pretty important < 1358025644 655960 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or incomparable < 1358025649 216457 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um if there were intelligent aliens and they were my friends they would be pretty important to me........... < 1358025653 354338 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if we're insignificant on some "cosmic" scale, I don't really care about the cosmic scale. It's not conscious, as far as we know < 1358025661 987650 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered gnosticism, zzo? (imagine me dressed in a mormon missionary outfit, holding a ripped up bible soaked in my blood) < 1358025675 296537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Pretty Cool < 1358025697 172777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have certainly studied all of those things, on Wikipedia and in books. < 1358025712 209494 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you, too, may already be Pretty Cool. < 1358025732 658983 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning japanese is reminding me of learning an esoteric programming langauge < 1358025772 923619 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel weird from caffeine < 1358025836 184076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also about catholics, i think missionaries should retroactively not be full of shit. that'd be good for all these readings I do. Thanks in retrovance catholics < 1358025840 405124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"God is eternal [not limited to time], immense [not limited to space], contains all things, beyond human understanding" this much I agree with. "God chooses the Hebrews and makes them a people, gives the Jews a land, establishes the kingdom of David, ..." but this I just call mythology. < 1358025871 915144 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deist! < 1358025944 125054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trinity is insufficently illogical to be spiritually true, duh! < 1358026016 989276 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird and absurd sounding does not inherently imply incorrect < 1358026029 752283 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does imply that pretty strong evidence is needed for it < 1358026054 961822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidence? your inductive inference is no good here, son < 1358026070 915064 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw has anyone been to Kyuakse < 1358026101 959589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google kyuakse < 1358026103 776158 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kyuakse/114985111848082 < 1358026103 945997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Update Your Browser | Facebook < 1358026109 385237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"humanity is the most important thing to humans" s/humans/humans who believe humanity is the most important thing to them/ presumably < 1358026120 855319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :VERY GOOD HIT, GOOGLE < 1358026128 357853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a small town in Burma. < 1358026132 172389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "retrovance" is a good word < 1358026147 245471 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coretrovance < 1358026210 545118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a more serious google search suggests it's spelled "kyaukse" < 1358026235 231244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is famous for the Kyaukse Elephant Dance. < 1358026257 861273 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is. i blame transliteration < 1358026258 32164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Wikipedia calls the country "Myanmar" in that article. but the link is to a redirect to "Burma". < 1358026271 245023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: qhdgadfaffy < 1358026275 721400 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was called myanmar in the past, o'course < 1358026291 758290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows about the whole naming thing < 1358026297 191227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's interesting that Wikipedia can't decide which to use < 1358026334 291976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would guess it's because nobody gives half a damn about kyaukse or its wikipedia article. or maybe some people do, and they're the people who edit articles on forgettable townships. < 1358026365 241130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why are you asking us whether we have been there exactly :P < 1358026389 870605 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because burma is more interesting than idle inexpert theology < 1358026390 42774 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to tvtropes, myanmar and burma are spelled the same way in burmese (or whatever their script is called) < 1358026399 531808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a damn good point Bike < 1358026434 240168 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc) < 1358026444 549438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you are correct that weird and absurd sounding does not inherently imply incorrect; nevertheless, to me, Trinity is only symbolic. It is my opinion. < 1358026482 934001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you write on Wikipedia talk page about name of the countries, if it is necessary? < 1358026559 479750 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, there are lots of norwegians here, right? how do i get to the point where i can recognize what country the name Fiskesjö is from without having to look it up? do i lick you or something? < 1358026570 719636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's Finns we have a lot of. < 1358026573 810661 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does food help calm caffeinated nerves? < 1358026582 416224 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn and the name is swedish < 1358026582 586477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to lick oerjan tohugh < 1358026584 281326 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: shachaf is norwegian < 1358026585 672682 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doomed < 1358026587 390302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i doubt there is any point in us rehashing an old political issue on wikipedia < 1358026601 953393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, it should be consistent with what the article on the country itself is called. < 1358026604 272257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll just change it. < 1358026623 271071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm Asian... < 1358026641 749281 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well norwegia is in eurasia. < 1358026650 227048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, if it is already there, there is no point, you are correct. But first you should see if it is already! < 1358026671 854639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ö is the swedish letter, the danish and norweigan equivalent would be ø. otherwise, the _spelling_ seems norwegian to me, although it might be swedish as well; i think danish uses "sø" for the final subword. < 1358026679 657740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fish lake, basically) < 1358026688 494941 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm, okay. < 1358026701 969932 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the first name, Magnus? Mostly that just makes me think of an Icelandic strongman. < 1358026750 576693 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should have just skipped to looking up his faculty page instead of guessing nationalities randomly. < 1358026761 777065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you really call your country "norwegia" < 1358026763 188801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a dumb name < 1358026775 207952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not in norwegian, no. < 1358026790 808021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this about the nynorsk bokmal thing < 1358026793 556046 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it Noreg? < 1358026796 684436 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :norweegie < 1358026802 391392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the polish might call it that, they have w and words that look similar. < 1358026816 777253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :noreg is nynorsk, norge is bokmÃ¥l. < 1358026847 227212 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect they just misspelled it while writing the nynorsk dictionary < 1358026850 319571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that top google result is the pl wikipedia article < 1358026852 346825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not no wikipedia < 1358026865 592233 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, some page I found seems to be reassuring, but on the other hand, it seems to be agenda-y < 1358026878 579049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are presumably both from an older form similar to "norveg", which basically means north way < 1358026903 841921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's noregsland in faroese < 1358026927 79827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ...reassuring about what < 1358026937 970586 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the caffeine agenda < 1358026974 225051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: afaict fiskesjø is not used as any well-known norwegian place name < 1358026979 76412 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, whether I might be in danger from how much coffee I had < 1358027010 129154 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :danger??? < 1358027011 615797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and latin called it "norvegia", from which many others may have borrowed it < 1358027031 871716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how much coffee have you drinken exactly... < 1358027040 125996 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One extra-large cup < 1358027042 928966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to a norwegian, "norvegia" is a rather bland brand of cheese. < 1358027051 846704 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee isn't exactly a hard drug man < 1358027061 161761 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you cut it with heroin or something you're fine < 1358027063 957814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which for some reason gets marketed out the wazoo. < 1358027078 25889 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : and latin called it "norvegia" <-- vindication < 1358027091 653177 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-142-102.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358027093 66723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Norja" here. < 1358027105 908788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how are you going to die from one cup of coffee exactly < 1358027111 422670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people drink lots of coffee sgeo.... < 1358027115 326654 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um it was extra large < 1358027132 182056 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he probably hasnt adjusted to the shock & terror < 1358027164 308168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo, you really should have done some coke or hookers or telnet or something in college to loosen you up. < 1358027172 322880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there are indeed many danish lakes called fiskesø, although seemingly not as the sole name < 1358027200 324827 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lakes what < 1358027210 309839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: telling kids to use telnet is just irresponsible < 1358027217 88943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if someone steals their password < 1358027217 259459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe you could just ask magnus where he comes from < 1358027234 464944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've telnetted before < 1358027235 174457 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds hard < 1358027262 736110 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you gotta take risks when you're young man < 1358027276 368970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly just to play on public NetHack servers though < 1358027285 356591 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have written on Scandinavian outlaws, and a recent pamphlet addressed sovereign power more generally, through a discussion of the annual ritualized U.S. presidential pardon granted to one Thanksgiving turkey." < 1358027289 398810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list of publications does include a bunch of entries with the note "(In Swedish)." < 1358027360 192124 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think I'm above however much caffeine I should be consuming, I feel really weird < 1358027377 491744 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever had caffeine before, sgeo < 1358027401 647134 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1358027404 272129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo, it's a stim < 1358027407 18376 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stimulates you < 1358027459 976646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Magnus is a common norwegian name, our crown prince is named HÃ¥kon Magnus and his son is Sverre Magnus. also five medieval kings. however it is clearly borrowed from latin "magnus", great, probably via Carolus Magnus, the latin name of Charlemagne. < 1358027472 183655 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know you even had a prince. < 1358027494 738574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um magnus isn't THAT great imo < 1358027496 594017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are better names < 1358027523 555500 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Ultra Magnus < 1358027533 33184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :topical: super mega magnus < 1358027568 979921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and we shouldn't forget Magnus Carlsen >:) < 1358027619 624694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it _means_ "great" you doofus :) < 1358027650 956083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I take it Ørjan means frog-killer < 1358027658 806507 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are levels of irony here i don't think i understand < 1358027659 500852 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358027673 570833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it means farmer, originally. < 1358027684 243865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah obviously elliott realized that < 1358027777 855327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :four swedish kings as well < 1358027798 9061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :six saints < 1358027823 608891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one of which could be considered scandinavian, though < 1358027875 457025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i'm just summarizing the english wikipedia. < 1358027882 68920 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current swedish royalty was imported from france < 1358027894 742537 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358027919 329457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i understand they're quite happy to borrow medieval names nevertheless. < 1358027988 209702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh wasn't there some noise about victoria's daughter not having any good swedish name < 1358028012 945012 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1358028030 129532 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1358028030 299564 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358028065 307428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Estelle Silvia Ewa Mary" pretty much < 1358028097 866170 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358028497 186867 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1358028535 382371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run cat list | paste <-- `url hth < 1358028588 374513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/url < 1358028589 438038 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if [ "$1" ] \ then \ echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/'"$1" \ else \ echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/' \ fi < 1358028615 843106 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url list < 1358028617 599882 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/list < 1358028631 935152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you that file isn't there < 1358028645 132077 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a ghost?? < 1358028646 856251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/paste < 1358028648 228126 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ PASTE=- \ else \ PASTE="$1" \ fi \ \ PASTENUM="$RANDOM" \ \ mkdir -p $HACKENV/paste \ \ echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.'"$PASTENUM" \ cat "$PASTE" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM" < 1358028653 425858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls list < 1358028654 804181 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :list < 1358028658 244188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is < 1358028662 59473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY THEN < 1358028694 617951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat list < 1358028695 659381 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail -n +2 $0 | xargs echo; exit 0 \ shachaf < 1358028698 104736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1358028699 824140 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti elliot < 1358028708 890356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO this is stupid < 1358028714 27459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm list < 1358028716 197549 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358028777 957385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/^echo .*tip\//url /' bin/paste < 1358028781 990811 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358028790 44091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi | paste < 1358028791 81780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1358028792 111163 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/paste: line 13: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ /hackenv/bin/paste: line 15: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1358028794 218121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/paste < 1358028796 281843 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ PASTE=- \ else \ PASTE="$1" \ fi \ \ PASTENUM="$RANDOM" \ \ mkdir -p $HACKENV/paste \ \ url paste/paste.'"$PASTENUM" \ cat "$PASTE" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM" < 1358028796 451980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1358028808 299319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1358028858 969793 :sebbu!~sebbu@adijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1358028859 176596 :sebbu!~sebbu@adijon-152-1-42-143.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1358028859 176747 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358028903 223819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i "s/paste.'/paste./" bin/paste < 1358028906 666033 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358028910 894070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi | paste < 1358028915 292717 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25721 < 1358028944 20845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i like HackEgo's commands being modular < 1358029118 389600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly paste has no collision prevention. < 1358029242 855306 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/paste < 1358029243 694935 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ PASTE=- \ else \ PASTE="$1" \ fi \ \ PASTENUM="$RANDOM" \ \ mkdir -p $HACKENV/paste \ \ url paste/paste."$PASTENUM" \ cat "$PASTE" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM" < 1358029244 647418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any new C standard allow const members in a struct or union? I think functions (not function pointers) should also be allowed, but only if they are declared as const. I also thought typedefs should be allowed, but that might make the syntax difficult. (If a struct/union contains only const members, then the sizeof should be zero.) < 1358029250 421062 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/paste | paste < 1358029251 450226 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/paste | paste: No such file or directory < 1358029257 732710 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/paste | paste < 1358029261 648108 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12606 < 1358029281 930995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I suspect that might be intentional. < 1358029290 603546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: ERM I JUST TRIED TO TELL YOU YOU DON'T NEED `paste FOR EXISTING FILES < 1358029310 821398 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1358029331 150993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah otoh someone recently decided not to clean up paste/ and seemed to imply this was for making the logs easier to browse < 1358029344 986415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: someone is a hypocrite and also not Gregor < 1358029400 936029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is different to C++, which allows functions in a struct but in an entirely different way; in a way which does not fit with C, in my opinion.) < 1358029439 176118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If a struct/union contains only const members, then the sizeof should be zero." but why < 1358029514 80638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The const members should not take up any space. Actually, const members in a struct/union should be required to be also declared static, I think. < 1358029567 537411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : > k < 1358029569 597000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t k < 1358029570 634948 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1358029575 649691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t var < 1358029577 51646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :String -> Sym a < 1358029577 221724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that struct s { const int x; } is not allowed, but struct s { static const int x = 5; } should be OK. < 1358029582 58812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1358029584 476646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fun < 1358029585 503029 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FromExpr a => String -> a < 1358029601 236996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t val < 1358029602 579136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `val' < 1358029602 749017 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1358029602 749176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `var' (imported from Data.Number.Symbolic), < 1358029607 876932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same with functions they should be static const. < 1358029646 4149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "hello" < 1358029647 148496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : hello < 1358029650 277989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you looking for? < 1358029651 693048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :genius < 1358029658 683576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: a-z are basically defined in lambdabot as a = fun "a" :: Expr etc. except f,g,h don't have the :: Expr part < 1358029687 656949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: this makes them a primitive form of symbolic expression < 1358029710 68712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and f,g,h can be used as functions since they are more overloaded. < 1358029747 702151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t f < 1358029749 81243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FromExpr a => a < 1358029774 247972 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> f < 1358029775 662996 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a0' in the constraints: < 1358029775 833162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1358029775 833354 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1358029788 286617 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Interesting < 1358029826 457310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think there's a var function which does fun + the :: Expr part automatically, but lambdabot chooses to import a different module's slightly similar but incompatible function of the same name instead.) < 1358029881 102304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both var's have the nice property you can use them to show strings unescaped, though :) < 1358029890 935713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t tex < 1358029891 281722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t text < 1358029891 971646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `tex' < 1358029892 152949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1358029892 153144 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `lex' (imported from Prelude), < 1358029892 692646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :String -> Doc < 1358029894 788327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of having static members of a struct/union? < 1358029895 572632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1358029906 661295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :text has the disadvantage it's strict in string length. < 1358029915 432157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ repeat 'a' < 1358029920 520792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1358029920 690848 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1358029923 444193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ repeat 'b' < 1358029924 848731 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb... < 1358029955 476398 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1358030134 147284 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes b | head -n 10 | xargs printf '%s' < 1358030135 767678 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbbbbbbbbb < 1358030195 911790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ cycle "a\n" < 1358030197 288222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030197 459046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030197 459246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030197 459354 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030197 459464 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030199 390779 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21 @more lines] < 1358030202 211878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1358030202 381968 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030203 368706 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030205 127086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030206 850736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :love this feature < 1358030207 188385 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030211 475247 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : a < 1358030215 421006 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16 @more lines] < 1358030357 222586 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@fluttershy.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1358031465 803184 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358031538 672472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: `revert does _not_ take a number of revisions to revert, but the number of a revision to revert _to_. you need to look at the hg web browser to find the number. < 1358031542 594266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1358031542 594475 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1358031548 127319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last url there. < 1358031595 744109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also revert N revisions past iirc though i forget how, I think I implemetned that < 1358031598 699321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert --help < 1358031599 730799 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :abort: unknown revision '--help'! < 1358031603 951388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj < 1358031712 947854 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1358031721 734416 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why did you think I thought it took the number of revisions to revert < 1358031731 197432 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358031733 985965 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I wanted to revert to revision 4 just to see what it was like < 1358031793 920872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i tend not to assume people are pricks without evidence. < 1358031878 940985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some here would say even _with_ evidence. there would be more if i hadn't banned them.) < 1358031902 303844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...here i go again. < 1358031947 379586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think you're being cynical enough. < 1358031957 114482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1358032007 700535 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, you can always go back to a revision in the future < 1358032011 569928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how 4/7 of the ban list is the same person. < 1358032022 904768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also 2/7. < 1358032069 335171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: sure but if people don't notice soon enough there may be a mess of intervening information lost < 1358032076 636191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one get banned from #esoteric < 1358032107 612951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: IME you have to try *really* hard. < 1358032110 14239 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this includes PH.) < 1358032117 269415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait I got banned sometimes < 1358032118 692520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 90909 - 86400 < 1358032120 147934 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4509 < 1358032120 731176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you have to try really hard < 1358032121 759118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or be me < 1358032132 568845 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one be elliott < 1358032140 687760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now _that_ is really hard < 1358032143 169157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope we never find out. < 1358032910 999227 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-182-188.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358033566 664027 :mekeor!~user@dslb-092-074-090-157.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: bai bai < 1358034547 698178 :jdiez!~42@178-33-162-138.kimsufi.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358034628 174159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone banned themself from Wikipedia for Lent. < 1358034745 581566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1358034747 439653 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia is harmful and addictive < 1358034776 553735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i recall someone doing the similar thing on reddit < 1358034782 613479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a previous year < 1358034786 47516 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit is harmful and addictive < 1358034883 327546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is #esoteric harmful and addictive < 1358034899 878958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it is! < 1358034933 168581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about #haskell-lens < 1358034944 197221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"maximum addictivity??" < 1358034949 761074 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid of haskell lens, what if i get harmed and addicted < 1358035064 260499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or worse, addicted and harmed?? < 1358035102 469837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: banning yourself from Wikipedia is actually banned, in case it causes collateral damage < 1358035111 923447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, banning your own bots from Wikipedia to stop them in an emergency isn't < 1358035118 10529 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-201.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1358035122 134468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite apparently having the same problem < 1358035133 599459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because the bans tend to be undone faster < 1358035161 946261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Banning yourself from Wikipedia is banned? < 1358035172 584434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: O, OK, I didn't know those things before; now I do know. < 1358035187 6637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the point of that? < 1358035195 295950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, in case you have a shared IP address and you happen to catch someone else in the ban