< 1358380821 595650 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the overuse of the love meme < 1358380896 324719 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358381021 634589 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo......no........ < 1358381083 913034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Don't do it. < 1358381621 123925 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love ellipses < 1358381641 266641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGEO_. < 1358381654 733650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you smoke around someone who's trying to quit smoking? < 1358381664 826889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you say hi to monqy? < 1358381701 946244 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1358381731 961566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Are you studying to be a language lawyer? < 1358381739 721955 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm I'm just curious really! < 1358381745 796036 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so much I don't know about C < 1358381781 227969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know: The standard allows argc==0, *argv==NULL? < 1358381800 111406 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must be reading the wrong standard then, shachaf. < 1358381811 577714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I was reading C89 and C99. < 1358381819 926246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one should I be reading? < 1358381829 565257 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c99 is so last millenium < 1358381833 369641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :K&R doesn't allow that. < 1358381838 121332 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that makes your program work. < 1358381839 232526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But who pays attention to K&R? < 1358381853 908538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :argc == 0? XD < 1358381866 704631 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is argv[0] equal to program name a system convention, or C convention? < 1358381878 405714 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would guess posix, that seems like it'd be out of scope of C < 1358381912 435648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Try it out! < 1358381918 850218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can segfault quite a lot of programs in /usr/bin/ with it. < 1358381943 96203 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sa < 1358381944 243189 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*XD < 1358381948 531146 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can pass envp = 0. < 1358382006 254336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the best you can do is *envp = 0 < 1358382065 854397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of programs will just use envp[0] as argv[0] on Linux. < 1358382470 997737 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358382481 472547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Exercise: Make up a case where a program not checking for argc==0 can lead to a security vulnerability. < 1358382496 69992 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does execve on real systems allow argc=0? < 1358382497 375582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I couldn't come up with a realistic one. Segfaults are easy but not useful.) < 1358382501 665615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep! < 1358382504 827700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least on Linux. < 1358382514 370642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence the segfaults I mentioned earlier. < 1358382550 143404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even on some suid binaries. < 1358382591 801435 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you set up a signal handler, does it get overwritten when you execve? < 1358382607 693297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would generally hope so. < 1358382623 138231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it would be a little insane if it didn't < 1358382681 595675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be so easy < 1358382738 908734 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man execve mentions signal handlers (or rather "dispositions", I haven't really used signals) are reset. doesn't mention posixness or nuthin < 1358384269 588924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macro parameters cannot have line numbers in GNU C so I instead used various things to make it work; this involves redefining macros that are already defined and using mismatched parentheses. (This is for a puzzle game called "Brains&Flags") < 1358384345 578974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What's the game? < 1358384557 114302 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1358384689 703970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is isn't written enough yet that you can look at it! < 1358384728 448466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it sort of resembles a cross between Hero Hearts and Magic: the Gathering, although there are also some things like chess and so on. < 1358384882 656000 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358385132 921186 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358387444 686595 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-13-212.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358387543 222727 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-157-18.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358387668 155952 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-14-27.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358387880 481732 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@174-20-13-212.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358387957 91758 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-14-27.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358388219 313307 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358388358 532051 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358388501 159537 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-33-200.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358388553 73903 :impomatic!~digital_w@211.67.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1358388854 276605 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-36-54.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358389499 992317 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo wett: ahoy < 1358389501 257644 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wett: ahoy < 1358389746 341335 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1358390045 275991 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1358390100 725003 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1358390193 721700 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358390311 140068 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358390411 375133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358390500 96737 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-36-54.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358390545 178507 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358390580 543065 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358390608 992285 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358390652 994817 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-36-54.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358391305 491289 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358391417 651955 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358391605 606825 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a piece of code in Pharo that starts < 1358391606 566153 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :false ifTrue: < 1358391671 815913 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :false ifTrue: [self flag: #nominallyUnsent:] "So that this method itself will appear to be sent" < 1358391721 131559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can clojure do that? < 1358391898 795886 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have an actual reason to do (if false ...)? < 1358391899 891071 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358391914 989636 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really understand the reason. < 1358391963 140948 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's so that the IDE thinks that there exists a piece of code that sends nominallyUnsent: < 1358392007 500365 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1358392083 551430 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1358392474 231036 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358392497 41691 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358392505 361588 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358392878 367125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1358393289 12390 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1358393367 949381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if Squeak looks any less horrible these days < 1358393413 475531 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ih. Theme still sucks but it's less... horrible, I guess? http://static.squeak.org/screenshots/world_color.png < 1358393440 31583 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358393441 785077 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358393456 838371 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: looks like Java < 1358393552 185694 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1358393554 90247 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1358393995 735481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Haskell doesn't seem to have a power function that takes a ratio as the index < 1358394016 315266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 ** (1/3) -- what's wrong with this? < 1358394017 42625 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.2599210498948732 < 1358394029 42880 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "index"? < 1358394101 686264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if a program does something like while (--argc) { ... } < 1358394109 335193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then for argc == 0, the loop will execute many times < 1358394111 666857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong is FreeFull isn't actually here < 1358394115 776710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1358394119 80947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is pretty common. < 1358394132 858164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it will eventually signed-integer-underflow which is UB < 1358394236 143250 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :least you can mostly fix it by moving two characters. < 1358394278 421821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :UB is sufficient to be bad but not sufficient to be exploitable. < 1358394321 2642 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358394321 658265 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti alot < 1358394344 293260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :char *buf[256]; int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { if (argc > 256) abort(); while (--argc) buf[argc] = *(argv++); } < 1358394385 56726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bit too convoluted for my taste. < 1358394422 985993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem that convoluted and could probably be made less convoluted and longer < 1358394447 348437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you usually get on x86 GNU/Linux when you read past the end of argv? < 1358394454 438485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get a NULL pointer and then envp entries, yeah? < 1358394549 463259 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358394565 187560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1358394573 625634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> minBound `div` (-1) :: Int < 1358394574 562605 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: arithmetic overflow < 1358394653 313271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> minBound `div` 0 :: Int < 1358394654 659502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: divide by zero < 1358394655 314491 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358394668 860034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: FOCUS < 1358394680 358652 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull! You have four seconds to explain what the "index" of an exponentiation is! < 1358394690 189168 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE < 1358394766 304904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect it means the exponent, since that is the one where you cannot use a ratio with all the haskell operators < 1358394766 990982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are plenty of cases where an attacker partially controls the environment of a setuid binary, aren't there < 1358394802 906845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1358395148 752125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the long loop itself could be a security vulnerability, a DoS < 1358395161 445205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a setuid program has higher rlimits than you do, or acquires a privileged lock or something < 1358395182 512735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose. < 1358395195 38428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooc, what do you find convoluted about my example? < 1358395294 131524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly that I looked at the argument parsing of a bunch of programs and didn't see anything that looked much like that. < 1358395309 298199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's probably less convoluted than I thought. < 1358395320 650102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there are some programs that do malloc() based on argc. < 1358395339 981514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be promising, if they then try to copy into a buffer. < 1358395417 16904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example Dalvik does this. < 1358395445 923044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/android/platform_dalvik/blob/master/dalvikvm/Main.cpp#L154 < 1358395637 928079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case it's probably also not exploitable. < 1358395859 422944 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1358395894 225675 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Java stopped working with 32-bit browsers, and Chrome never became 64-bit. Which is kind of terrible in itself." < 1358395897 688536 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this about? < 1358395947 111029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should I know? You pasted it. < 1358395965 304550 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that person actually being accurate, or delusional? < 1358395975 355780 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(About no more Java for 32-bit browsers) < 1358395986 626418 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358396287 883343 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358396343 444513 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358396587 426492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358396652 929360 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1358396911 671709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah, they do essentially malloc(sizeof(foo) * (argc-1)) < 1358396925 440248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will be a classic malloc size overflow if argc==0 < 1358396934 608453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should write a level based on argc==0 and submit it to IO! < 1358396961 159663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1358397016 433553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'd submit one to your CTF! < 1358397027 81253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you going to make one? < 1358397055 58126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to do a different thing < 1358397063 300843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the cryptography thing? < 1358397154 646437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358397159 133123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the devious code contest < 1358397168 180272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that too. < 1358397191 925324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there's actually a lot of overlap between CTF levels and underhanded code contest submissions. < 1358397231 654916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was never planning to run a CTF by meself < 1358397373 115231 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358397465 636827 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1358397535 402507 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358397860 643873 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358398001 27622 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358399338 316372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 000 000 × 0.01% = goatse < 1358399563 335326 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@174-20-36-54.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358399693 638944 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover 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:epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358405357 844241 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://andrew-hoyer.com/experiments/entropy/ < 1358405633 721337 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358405663 974334 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1358406261 474986 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358406268 184396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that site has so high entropy it doesn't load < 1358406284 52037 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty, in a web 3.0 way, which is more than most esolangs get < 1358406527 250446 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1358407003 411600 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loads just fine for me < 1358407233 960429 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358407552 510137 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems you could easily keep bits using Techniques. < 1358407908 66493 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358408008 464837 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1358408083 103535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a TV program about "glitch art" I happened to glance at a while ago. < 1358408095 485325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It registered quite high on the old pretentiometer. < 1358409322 32443 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358409350 129392 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358409596 6721 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1358411934 173695 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358412420 84215 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358412641 192215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1F46B MAN AND WOMAN HOLDING HANDS < 1358412642 321605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : x (restroom - 1F6BB) < 1358413399 649653 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358417308 178760 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358417313 199542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1358417450 298691 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1358417590 576192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358417749 826135 :md_5!md_5@mcdevs/trusted/md-5 NICK :md_5|away < 1358417893 206363 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358418268 358807 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1358420996 284677 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358421018 107482 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358421221 924568 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. i saw this spacechem solution for an easy level that took like 100k cycles < 1358421236 209016 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i thought of a better way to do it, plus found a level i could implement it on < 1358421251 290612 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cycle counter changed to say +INF before the first molecule was 1/3 of the way to the output < 1358421253 699481 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1358421268 103693 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna let it run overnight and see if it keeps an actual count < 1358422948 152673 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358422958 146682 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358422998 28238 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358423002 229402 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti alot < 1358423020 73671 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from a few hours ago) < 1358424134 981532 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358424800 661458 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really go back to sleep < 1358428072 321374 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358428555 459901 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358429649 964133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish Smalltalk was more like Snit < 1358433307 504565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish my stomach was more like full < 1358434322 457906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : So Maru is the minimal parts that you need in order to "bootstrap" a VM for a language (what you like) at runtime. < 1358434322 676237 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : So if you read his "js implementation" it starts by defining some low level semantics (at runtime) - then add a bit on those - then suddenly it starts running "js" so to speak. < 1358434322 856365 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : So Maru defines the js runtime dynamically when it starts. < 1358434322 856545 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : This means that the "VM" is purely dynamic and can reconfigure itself during runtime for different languages. < 1358434715 144998 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to read http://www.dynamic-languages-symposium.org/dls-06/program/media/IanPiumarta_2006_OpenExtensibleDynamicProgrammingSystems_Dls.pdf < 1358434715 324925 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358434990 746366 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1358435012 418598 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358435172 478122 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what's going on < 1358435230 681114 :comex`!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1358435268 575849 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1358435268 818112 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1358435268 818432 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1358435268 997758 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1358435270 259000 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1358435455 740560 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358435485 737150 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 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:Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :spödre sparderer < 1358438624 167408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The sauna is also a place where Finns do not normally engage in a lot of conversation --" I don't really know if that has been my experience. Though it does say "normally". < 1358439263 235004 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358439277 484563 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: my situation got worse < 1358439303 253203 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1358439304 581962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1358439360 523908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358439389 435289 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358440455 944064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358440474 616200 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: help < 1358440479 623263 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho3 < 1358440482 306 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*how < 1358440490 342212 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rescue my computer < 1358440497 369546 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the clutches of something < 1358440497 550086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the matter upon for guidance for which to me you turn < 1358440518 963163 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After last night's graphics card kerfuffle, I now cannot seem to launch a GUI < 1358440523 851980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you maybe should ask elliott about that < 1358440539 977487 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is after all closer and can free it with less commuting < 1358440630 444347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what card etc. < 1358440684 247165 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some form of nVidia, turns out not what I thought < 1358440837 357735 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu 12.04, 304 experimental drivers < 1358440906 893174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should point out right now that i know nothing about this < 1358441002 587123 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence why I've also asked in #nvidia < 1358441186 957283 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and recieved no response so far < 1358441313 658969 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I've had multiple problems with various bêta nVidia drivers in the past. I don't know how easy it is to downgrade them on ubuntu, but that usually did the trick on my old machine. < 1358441321 830603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bêta < 1358441336 17723 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the problem is ridiculous already < 1358441343 286194 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, I had a bootleg graphics card < 1358441346 730705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my French's slipping again :p < 1358441347 164797 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I still have it < 1358441362 314443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: bootleg card? that's possible? < 1358441366 22350 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1358441372 472045 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought it from a dodgy chinese website < 1358441384 285738 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a few models older than it pretends to be < 1358441423 564837 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I decided to switch to the 310 driver < 1358441435 481655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that doesn't support what the card actually is < 1358441458 368322 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, after confusing everyone in #ubuntu-steam and #nvidia, I downgraded to 304 < 1358441459 520056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there's this reply here that says 12.04 doesn't support legacy drivers, if that's relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148688/getting-unity-3d-working-on-legacy-nvidia-card < 1358441469 811538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1358441475 595937 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked before, I'm sure < 1358441477 145051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reply meaning the second one) < 1358441499 994516 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also I have no idea how to open links from irssi < 1358441551 572942 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use nouveau drivers for my nvidia < 1358441604 999373 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in summary, it says the old 173 and 96 branches aren't supported on 12.04, and that you have to build them manually. < 1358441626 508079 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm trying to use the 304 branch < 1358441697 946557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358442094 726242 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Futuerjan: I saw your edits on the Fueue article < 1358442095 579832 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1358442525 127743 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1358442672 342879 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358442757 113327 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting increasingly tempted to upgrade to 12.10 to see what happens < 1358442791 239649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm using Ubuntu 12.10, I like it < 1358442802 241379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some annoying bugs, though < 1358442837 420660 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: more annoying than not having a GUI? < 1358443064 618297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no < 1358443073 770420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not have a GUI on your current OS? < 1358443155 343886 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graphics card issues < 1358443160 72587 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what's going on < 1358443571 935869 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358443686 127407 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try to remove the drivers and reinstall the "stable/supported" ones provided by ubuntu (or a ppa) ? < 1358443714 353708 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple times < 1358443717 952087 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna try again < 1358443747 978938 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358443816 643693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1358443835 255514 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would remove the new drivers, purge any remaining files of them, reinstall the kernel and install the drivers provided by ubuntu/ppa < 1358444103 9051 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1358444397 756751 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358444754 999974 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358445169 375813 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358445326 595150 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1358445655 239997 :deneb!~deneb@unaffiliated/deneb JOIN :#esoteric < 1358445783 84210 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1358445786 26545 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1358445909 287488 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358446113 924624 :deneb!~deneb@unaffiliated/deneb PART :#esoteric < 1358446578 635302 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maru was mentioned in #squeak < 1358447131 400210 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi NICK :atehwa < 1358448064 40438 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vi NFU_typed_forcibly.v < 1358448217 10123 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358448651 83526 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1358448669 574246 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1358449869 227486 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1358449917 175779 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358450016 375252 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you'll be relieved to know that my computer is working again! < 1358450026 4735 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter, thanks < 1358450040 623637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a relief < 1358451400 242651 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today, for some reason, me and some friends were talking about how Insane Clown Posse seem to only have one song < 1358451501 475469 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it turns out we were all thinking of different songs < 1358451867 523375 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-130-33.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358452102 897206 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean the song where they rap some bullshift on a background of nothing of interest < 1358452185 683637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bull<< < 1358452209 664009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 'pretentiometer' is a great word, thanks < 1358452214 770701 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my job is to write articles about things called subshifts < 1358452226 819591 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess how many times i've almost written that subshit < 1358452235 680925 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*almost left that in as < 1358452281 842283 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a guy who used to work at the uni before me (who has the same name as me) - presumably accidentally - left it as subshit in his phd. < 1358452299 846250 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere like page 50 so no one will ever know but anyway < 1358452303 31113 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's more than one oklopol? < 1358452325 814404 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm referring to the pseudonym i go by in real life < 1358452345 171602 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that one < 1358452353 299718 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I picked a pretty cool one of those < 1358452364 257136 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nathan? < 1358452374 382998 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nathan van Doorn < 1358452377 779436 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1358452380 601114 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sound like a supervillain < 1358452382 893850 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's pretty damn awesome < 1358452392 443074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it literally means "He gave from the house of Thor" < 1358452409 183471 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna switch names < 1358452428 104896 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my name means some forest shit < 1358452430 913624 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your name < 1358452466 393933 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1358452468 439710 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TUMBLR update < 1358452469 990483 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti alot < 1358452476 11712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No new comic) < 1358452498 320210 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe, I'm half the list < 1358452507 393691 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ville salo < 1358452509 620363 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ville means nothing < 1358452531 113011 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05739.gif < 1358452570 378345 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I imagine shachaf doing whenever I post Homestuck in another channel < 1358452575 938379 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1358452605 659668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb................................ < 1358452621 635477 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get the ~u hoodie. Sometimes I scare myself with how much I can imagine being that character < 1358452649 306594 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i put some lemon in my milk < 1358452654 255989 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no apparent reason < 1358452658 107327 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was horrible < 1358452659 451537 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1358452664 415802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :curdled? < 1358452676 59324 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358452706 676248 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: calliope? < 1358452718 745557 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora_, the other cherub < 1358452722 770010 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Trying to avoid spoilers) < 1358452728 548703 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one is scaryyy < 1358452731 16225 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and creepy < 1358452736 115073 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't seem very creepy < 1358452756 203046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like a creep sometimes < 1358452764 673342 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have creeped people out in the past < 1358452780 319312 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I creep people out all the time < 1358452810 615896 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be because I'm 6 foot tall and quite quiet on my feet < 1358452837 85310 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, competing with the other cherub sounds a little difficult < 1358452838 215286 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :who < 1358452854 554541 :who!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :dessos < 1358452874 783130 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes actually you are such a creep. you are stalking me with homestuck updates. you creep < 1358452894 51003 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little does he know... < 1358452904 291016 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-102.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1358453124 456330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love updates < 1358453126 698102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1358453134 817783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oopse) < 1358453172 702693 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theory: shachaf actually reads Homestuck but he doesn't want anyone to know because he cosplays Nepeta and is embarrassed < 1358453175 572469 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you should start evoling stuff < 1358453197 722022 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this theory < 1358453357 999645 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it too < 1358453365 45259 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike can be meulin < 1358453381 880167 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good excuse to learn ASL. < 1358453413 719000 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and grow my hair out, i guess < 1358453454 980605 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your fluffyhair probably would actually look like that grown out too < 1358453667 48457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < don't be prepawsterous, Taneb. your theory n33ds work < 1358453760 67732 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking the other day about categories < 1358453771 237567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :categories: so easy?? < 1358453772 319005 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how they're not much like gory cats < 1358453778 810456 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though they sound sort of similar < 1358453891 665585 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < you sound almeowst purrfect shachaf! his theory is purrfectly fitting. < 1358453909 189203 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < you catpun to make a wonderfurl nepeta too < 1358453920 618641 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 catpuns < 1358453921 141892 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pngchaf < 1358453939 340254 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1358453950 861591 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... < 1358453975 957112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 gifchaf < 1358453976 688940 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tvspuns < 1358453998 525068 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 jpegchaf < 1358453998 969653 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wcrtpuns < 1358454056 796026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love fitting theories < 1358454058 795861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so easy < 1358454134 984543 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < meowbe you should make it a habit! < 1358454183 79187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo Fiora_ is a much better candidate for this < 1358454201 632557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora_: You grew an _. You should have it removed before it's too late. < 1358454208 32878 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen conclusive proof that Fiora_ and shachaf aren't the same person < 1358454209 793412 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no. < 1358454212 82682 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right :< < 1358454213 897752 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Fiora < 1358454222 701601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora___________________ < 1358454224 196871 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixedies < 1358454242 948044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Fiora_ < 1358454244 807763 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora_: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1358454276 472694 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we ever seen fiora and shachaf in the same roo- oh, we have. < 1358454317 825177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have? < 1358454327 817146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: maybe shachaf has DID? < 1358454445 495913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Fiora is the Canadian counterpart to shachaf? < 1358454459 853446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is Canadian? < 1358454467 270611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I thought you were from New Zealand.. < 1358454469 8706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$?/ < 1358454471 758431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. < 1358454477 291313 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I'm from southern california... < 1358454479 882930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be s/.$// < 1358454483 596161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough. < 1358454494 938985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :southern canadafornia < 1358454498 802400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :southern canadafiora < 1358454509 887263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was in southern california once < 1358454511 117458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twice < 1358454513 362958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :three times?? qed < 1358454525 687404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I was there just a few months ago. < 1358454527 21001 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :difference 1 between here and canada: it doesn't get cold < 1358454542 63703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localweather Fiora < 1358454542 243867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1358454563 65102 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 25C right now < 1358454570 581635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 10°C here. :-( < 1358454570 788808 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is a lot warmer than it's been lately, actually, so this is a little unusual) < 1358454573 311175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ < 1358454575 783764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's 26C < 1358454583 289065 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-13°C here. < 1358454592 582178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uh < 1358454595 776039 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually it's ~10-15C < 1358454596 443211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor boily. < 1358454605 304082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 C here apparently < 1358454606 3483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you in Finland? < 1358454612 230613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I googled "weather in hexham") < 1358454638 340080 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: minimum -22 tonight, going to hit around -26 next thursday. < 1358454644 580300 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's actually above freezing here, weird. < 1358454657 790333 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars#The_weather_in_London < 1358454660 23145 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?where=hexham&unit=c < 1358454765 907011 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=The+weather+in+London&year=&month=-1 oh wow, it's beautiful. < 1358454773 393723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: apparently "I CAN'T FIND THAT SHIT" < 1358454781 225258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor can most mortals < 1358454782 524940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora++ for being American and using °C, by the way. < 1358454785 496718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike++ too? < 1358454799 844855 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peer pressure, man. < 1358454804 878192 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :F is weird < 1358454816 100416 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pretty much always use metric < 1358454817 229143 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually I'd use Rankine, but the fucking weather doesn't support it. < 1358454840 577534 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's frustrating sometimes since like 80% of the time it goes like this < 1358454848 529080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :K and R are convenient because you don't have to type °?!?! < 1358454853 71182 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fiora how tall are you 156cm *person puts 156cm into wolfram alpha to convert to feet*" < 1358454868 399158 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna be honest, i have no head for cm. < 1358454881 697201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me it goes < 1358454883 71594 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1358454894 843161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Fiora was French < 1358454906 769886 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is going on < 1358454916 502155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shachaf how tall are you uh i have no idea let me look at my identification card thing????? oh it's in feet" < 1358454917 529952 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, fiora. where aren't you from? < 1358454921 113562 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham? < 1358454930 366022 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358454946 232782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is probably just from Helsinki. < 1358454952 760176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you actually use rankine < 1358454956 511035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? helsinki < 1358454958 645016 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :helsinki? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1358454961 686578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What! < 1358454966 835720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fix this immediately. < 1358454978 405280 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, i use rømerjan. < 1358454991 73819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1358454992 480948 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least nine of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1358454997 511967 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people think I'm from all these weird places @_@ < 1358455000 203376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Helsinki < 1358455000 961574 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helsinki? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1358455005 138400 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Canada < 1358455006 278256 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1358455009 302732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: @tqbf says "If you’re interesting in ~30 crypto breaking exercises, mail sean@matasano.com and he’ll get you started (he’s more responsive than me)" < 1358455009 760224 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh... < 1358455013 459472 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the US < 1358455014 612132 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US is the country opposed to the THEM. < 1358455020 993219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really understand if this is just open to anyone or what < 1358455023 618358 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: It's hard to remember someone's true location when they're from somewhere weird like Kiribati. < 1358455032 295825 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google Kiribati < 1358455032 477030 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1358455033 645494 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati < 1358455033 825742 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Kiribati - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1358455035 160801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fiora from kiribati? < 1358455036 135201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it like in Kiribati??? < 1358455040 794353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you? < 1358455042 363928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1358455044 205207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it sounds nice < 1358455054 101317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it's probably open to anyone. < 1358455062 669543 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in a few years kiribati's probably gonna sink, so you'd better take advantage of being in kiribati as much as possible < 1358455078 321521 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Kiribati was in Finland < 1358455089 441620 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this isn't funny any more, everyone knows Fiora is really from ullapool < 1358455101 96727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have not emailed yet < 1358455102 134517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: If you sink I won't be able to attend your funeral because Kiribati is really far away, sorry. < 1358455116 898109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also because the funeral will be underwater < 1358455130 338531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just noticed it < 1358455131 907555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's kind of a positive in my book < 1358455132 832629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis the true highland way < 1358455137 605527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't YOU want an underwater funeral < 1358455142 139254 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The name Kiribati is the local pronunciation of "Gilberts", derived from the main island chain, the Gilbert Islands, who in turn were named after the British explorer Thomas Gilbert» ok, that's... kind of amazing < 1358455152 74970 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye, 'tis the true highland way < 1358455197 131347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to remember a more nowhere island sometime, Kiribati has a few too many people I think. < 1358455206 512219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is they all have ridiculous names. < 1358455214 348643 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palau? < 1358455226 886386 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :South Georgia? < 1358455233 711688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada? < 1358455241 477081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'I went to look for a PHP example but stopped when I found rand() used as a stream cipher in a popular framework.' < 1358455243 704184 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pitcairn islands? < 1358455245 483121 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear Fiora lives there < 1358455259 799552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :henderson island < 1358455264 454866 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :réunion? < 1358455274 38149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what was that barely-existing island I knew the name of once. < 1358455303 437653 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember how you were going to be from Antarctica? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingshausen_Station < 1358455332 453302 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Antarctica,_pollution,_environment,_Russia,_Bellingshausen_4.JPG great scenery imo < 1358455341 574593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That church is pretty good. < 1358455343 875094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You should do it and tell me how it goes! < 1358455370 729608 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, or Mestersvig, for the other side of the world. < 1358455389 816863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh, what's that city in russia called < 1358455393 31563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe i will < 1358455395 353402 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that's a complete shithole < 1358455404 128150 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vladivostok? < 1358455408 713063 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mirnansk? < 1358455416 1660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shitholegrad < 1358455418 369455 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1358455423 336214 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As of the 2000 census, Point of Rocks had a total population of three" i love these articles. < 1358455423 561580 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moscow? < 1358455464 573448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys does wikipedia have like a globe < 1358455464 796718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norilsk! < 1358455465 980313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kompletskaya Shitholegrad < 1358455467 92710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you can click countries < 1358455468 281731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one. < 1358455471 96912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I guess I'll just go to google maps < 1358455477 534677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try and zoom in on fuck all < 1358455478 870472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's wikimapia < 1358455487 786875 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_with_fewer_than_ten_residents < 1358455509 88882 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes, that's the one < 1358455514 738057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kiribati is on that list < 1358455524 481898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_places_with_fewer_than_ten_residents < 1358455526 526369 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :embarras. he he he :D < 1358455527 439129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1358455528 772339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's threatened < 1358455535 954278 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!!! < 1358455566 103956 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I like the idea of a place called "Several of the Line Islands". < 1358455581 331529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1358455583 841796 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in several of the line islands < 1358455586 402683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that article needs deletion, really < 1358455588 16633 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each time i read about norilsk < 1358455594 562732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think *you* need deletion. < 1358455595 47433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the happier i am that i'm not from norilsk < 1358455598 209158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no you don't < 1358455598 920489 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DED4.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358455629 711650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: by the way, you're now on my list of people to track down and drag along with me to Antarctica some day. < 1358455641 248985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who else is on that list < 1358455663 759113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you, for one. < 1358455668 904933 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: cool. did you know for shipping they have to use piers made of ice < 1358455690 940154 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike will be the expert on antarctica < 1358455734 870658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so < 1358455738 964082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to wikimapia per Bike < 1358455743 786143 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1358455745 491781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and found a tiny little nowhere that looked like it might be it < 1358455747 502065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zoomed in < 1358455752 797487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought aw yeah this looks remote maybe it's it < 1358455755 880844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out it's hawaii < 1358455758 175730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not very good at this < 1358455810 309116 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: re norilsk, it could be a lot worse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Military_Vehicle,_Lorino.jpg < 1358455817 243774 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(caption: "Transport in Lorino") < 1358455821 413817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i love hawaii < 1358455863 286072 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1358455889 743138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, easter island¬ < 1358455905 363969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Easter Island is cool but no it was more remote < 1358455911 983559 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was called like some three letter thing < 1358455912 990172 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tristan de cunha < 1358455940 722433 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anadyr_harbour3.jpg hm, looks pretty nice considering where it is < 1358455955 56491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way someone should give me lots of money so i can go to all these places < 1358455958 7232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no like < 1358455958 246484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally three letters < 1358455975 974089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You would go to Hawaii? < 1358455976 844299 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1358455978 282038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa? < 1358455980 283026 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aab? < 1358455980 463160 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guam? < 1358455981 849720 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aac? < 1358455994 515831 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guam isn't nowhere, it just has more airplanes than people is all. < 1358456005 943649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :( < 1358456010 428585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But sure.) < 1358456022 204020 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should visit île dorval some time, it's not so far away. < 1358456028 908497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but that's like america................. < 1358456038 921718 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw were you aware that US territories have the worst flags in the world < 1358456041 904751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with tiny remote islands is that they're tiny and remote so it's hard to find them. < 1358456042 910456 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let as = ['a'..'z'] in liftA3 (,,) as as as & map (toListOf each) < 1358456043 91291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than, you know, geographically. < 1358456044 490671 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `each' < 1358456049 666217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> replicateM 3 ['a'..'z'] < 1358456050 110669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1358456050 777811 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["aaa","aab","aac","aad","aae","aaf","aag","aah","aai","aaj","aak","aal","a... < 1358456052 862544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just zoomed in on hawaii again < 1358456073 503462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there was that one the essex crew landed on-- wait that was henderson island < 1358456076 652053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb.. < 1358456080 92881 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Northern_Mariana_Islands.svg i mean what is this < 1358456083 658836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but come on < 1358456096 862226 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, why be rational when you can be amazing < 1358456105 554031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I found kiritimati < 1358456106 660977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: STOP TRYING TO GET LENS INTO EVERYTHING < 1358456111 507277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You should use lens! < 1358456111 687841 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER < 1358456117 260114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its only significant features are birds and dead people < 1358456126 928600 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm getting mixed messages here < 1358456143 225266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like < 1358456145 721448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The first thing to ask yourself is: "Am I Taneb?" < 1358456146 107876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bap island or something < 1358456155 935539 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Taneb < 1358456157 271821 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. < 1358456158 23164 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i assume everyone has heard the story of the essex because it is amazing) < 1358456159 357602 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm no philosopher. < 1358456160 951778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second thing: "Am I Ngevd?" Then "Am I atriq?" and all the rest. < 1358456166 289088 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, are you elliott or a Rabbi? < 1358456174 29060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1358456176 345587 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or both < 1358456178 493958 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1358456184 226715 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I asked how one became elliott he said he hoped he'd never know. < 1358456192 816625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Bike < 1358456194 170118 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1358456200 69067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :found savai'i which I was previously unaware of the existence of < 1358456200 308289 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Fiora < 1358456201 424462 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1358456207 31475 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1358456208 539167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNACCEPTABLE < 1358456212 19121 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't know, since I'm not as smart as elliott, unless I am elliott, in which case I am as smart as elliott but don't know that because I don't know that I am elliott. < 1358456212 464975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does everyone want with me ;-; < 1358456216 297726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: story of the essex? < 1358456229 644482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it was this whale boat which was literally in real life sunk by a whale < 1358456230 412372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: your true location, clearly < 1358456239 350528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: okay that is pretty good < 1358456247 252439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fiora just wants to be left alone. < 1358456250 185449 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1358456250 629252 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the crew sailed across the pacific and ate each other < 1358456258 200683 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I was confusing Halifax and Elliott. I mean Essex. < 1358456281 533434 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halifax being the town that blew up. Not a whale ship thing guy. < 1358456287 65796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :savai'i looks pretty nice < 1358456293 928366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the island I was thinking of though < 1358456315 979339 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For the mythical original homeland of the Polynesian peoples (sometimes referred to as Savai'i), see Hawaiki" < 1358456316 868907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wait, I missed the beginning of this. < 1358456318 769337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Is it just me or is it really fucking weird to see water that isn't sort of murky greenbluegrey? < 1358456339 905196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which island are you looking for? < 1358456340 537232 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just default to hy-brazil and give up < 1358456349 843421 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1358456351 178559 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily may be French or something. We are not sure about the rest. < 1358456353 916826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That island. < 1358456362 324741 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's just you < 1358456364 952059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe it was a two-letter island? < 1358456375 566673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn boily is Canadian or something. We are not sure about Canada's existence. < 1358456379 134495 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1358456388 159008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_short_place_names < 1358456394 254967 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358456409 157896 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should use Wikivoyage to figure out which uninhabited pile of rocks elliott wants to set up on. < 1358456430 707001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's habited!!!!!!!!!!! < 1358456432 635422 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that's more "Ã…"s than I've ever seen in my life..... < 1358456452 134434 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1358456477 137261 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The once-nameless river, known as the "shortest river in the world"[4][5][6][7] was listed in the Guinness World Records as the world's shortest river at 440 feet (130 m). » this is stupid. < 1358456481 518423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :God dammit, I've forgotten which ocean is which. < 1358456483 530055 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geography is terrible. < 1358456490 69698 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You already have Mill Ends, Oregon. You can stop. < 1358456500 43019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1358456503 370810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the pacific ocean is the good one, hth < 1358456556 7288 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the atlantic is the one you're near < 1358456564 776322 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pacific ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The atlantic ocean is less cool than its giant underwater moutain range. The arctic ocean is cold. The indian ocean is full of typhoons and non-eurocentric shipping. < 1358456576 454136 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the divisions don't make any sense any way so fuck 'em, they're all just fucking water. < 1358456597 120404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: new proposal: < 1358456601 415480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rename all oceans to "the ocean" < 1358456622 543186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the ocean < 1358456623 208763 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late, they are already the ocean < 1358456624 592161 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye. < 1358456626 263369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so easy < 1358456639 157721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :once in a bookstore i saw a book about the oscillatory modes of the world's ocean < 1358456652 365906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what's the swedish word for ocean < 1358456666 278471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1358456669 293376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might have been Yap < 1358456672 516604 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IJ, a double lake in the Netherlands (the digraph IJ is sometimes considered a single letter in Dutch, so this could also be seen as a one-letter name)" < 1358456673 675939 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 'ocean' < 1358456677 224322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's the norwegian word for ocean < 1358456698 563991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's in the Federated States of Micronesia < 1358456700 701084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not obscure enough < 1358456705 156707 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or 'hav') < 1358456711 783049 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, this is the place with Rai stones? Not nearly obscure enough. < 1358456717 459898 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have your own word for it? < 1358456736 661441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what's the finnish word for ocean < 1358456742 99856 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have valtameri, which means power sea. < 1358456745 973587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, the problem is that there is too much stuff in the world. < 1358456761 191143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Please help me find a tiny barely-inhabited island with a vaguely memorable name to replace it. < 1358456762 976706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: That's a good prefix. < 1358456768 482994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you prepend it to other things? < 1358456774 181769 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. < 1358456776 361640 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO just hole up at Disappointment Island and shoot at passing whalers < 1358456791 400206 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainstream = valtavirta < 1358456795 862437 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's for liquids. < 1358456826 52384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 cat < 1358456826 350088 :fungot!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :png < 1358456836 861773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1358456840 661491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 2004, charges were laid against seven men living on Pitcairn and six living abroad. After extensive trials the men were convicted, some with multiple counts of sexual attacks of children.[15] On 25 October 2004, six men were convicted, including Steve Christian, the island's mayor at the time.[16][17][18] After the six men lost their final appeal, the British government set up a prison on the island at Bob's Valley.[19][20] The men began serving < 1358456847 650288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how they had to build a prison for the purpose. < 1358456863 932113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and yet all the cats are gifs? < 1358456879 352470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "These islands are dry, and not especially conducive to human habitation." < 1358456897 82044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess you meant the singular one. < 1358456910 597924 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one in the subantarctic, yeah. < 1358456917 609293 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"easier" < 1358456939 896284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Auckland Island looks pretty. < 1358456967 734717 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Inacessible Islands", straightforward naming there < 1358457019 346005 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Deception Island is the one I was thinking of. < 1358457036 251076 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The deception is that it's in the Antarctic, so you think it'd be cold. It is cold, but also volcanoes will kill you. < 1358457064 981316 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ile_de_la_Deception.svg more importantly, seems like a great place to hide your evil lair. < 1358457290 664252 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: They'll rename them once they find a way to access them. < 1358457352 477828 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2013-01/rewire-your-file-transfer-routine < 1358457414 362137 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't most modern ethernet cards do on-the-fly crossover anyway? < 1358457450 689470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358457463 609888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think most cards from the past 8 years or so < 1358457464 288869 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if the reader’s card doesn’t, why buy a new straight Ethernet cable and then modify it to be crossover? < 1358457471 301514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might even be required by the GigE spec < 1358457502 132428 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Automatic MDI/MDI-X Configuration is specified as an optional feature in the 1000BASE-T standard" < 1358457506 778780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'When moving terabytes of data from one computer to another, cut out the external drive... by cutting up an Ethernet cable.' < 1358457514 189136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or plugging them into the same switch? < 1358457553 928735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did use direct GigE with jumbo frames when I had to move 5 TB between servers < 1358457554 826124 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this tutorial is for the kind of people who simply move the internet cable between computers < 1358457564 668431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also configured rsync to use rsh instead of ssh :X < 1358457685 764976 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O did you need to specify using jumbo frames? < 1358457695 893880 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much overhead would not using jumbo frames have introduced? < 1358457802 820819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't measure it < 1358458118 763822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you know there's like a billion countries < 1358458124 574101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 206 but same thing < 1358458128 71919 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it could be calculated? < 1358458140 279839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends who you ask elliott < 1358458143 803164 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big would the jumbo frames have been? < 1358458152 976237 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big are regular frames < 1358458153 875476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the overhead is going to depend on a lot of factors < 1358458156 704685 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1358458169 743269 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Apparently most of them aren't in Europe either. Who knew < 1358458187 570197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the concern is not so much the number of bytes on the wire as the overhead at OS, driver, and firmware level of having more frames < 1358458188 237203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I asked Bike < 1358458200 642216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will depend a lot on the driver < 1358458204 513629 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1358458214 799342 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the concern is speed, not amount of data? < 1358458221 854777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand that question < 1358458240 191091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the throughput is higher with jumbo frames because each additional frame takes some time to process at various layers < 1358458248 964311 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an organization set up for areas that want to become independent countries. Couple American Native tribes in it iirc < 1358458285 633169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it affects higher levels too < 1358458290 855651 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1358458297 467809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :either IP is going to fragment to fit the MTU, or TCP is going to send smaller packets, which need acking each < 1358458401 138213 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i had no idea assyrian nationalism existed < 1358458447 828140 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Deception-Tourists.jpg < 1358458450 152363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deception tourists < 1358458483 899738 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good photo < 1358458487 140496 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Active volcano? < 1358458496 387630 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's wiped out research stations a few times < 1358458534 859265 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems like not the place to go into water < 1358458541 533774 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a trick < 1358458552 21730 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some pit other than the obvious one, I assume? < 1358458589 871425 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1358458608 86547 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a volcanic bath < 1358458647 814938 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an Inner Mongolian secessionist movement. The party was started in 1997 in Princeton, New Jersey" ouch < 1358459134 568251 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a lame party < 1358459923 987015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(diff | hist) . . Esolang talk:Community portal‎; 20:56 . . (+518)‎ . . ‎Star651 (Talk | contribs | block)‎ (→‎Maybe esoteric programming is an adult/mature-content subject ... ?: new section) [rollback] < 1358459930 882782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what this is about. < 1358460160 838074 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He thinks the word "fuck" is R-rated < 1358460164 380687 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/he/e/ < 1358460207 223409 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the same guy who sent PH hatemail for his Tumblr < 1358460300 814577 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1358460373 457682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately he didn't swear whilst doing so < 1358460456 918809 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight, guys < 1358460458 86962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1358460487 392876 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does he go to bed at 10 < 1358460491 692971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not natural, i swear < 1358460602 193012 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1358460623 359892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: on a scale of 0 to 15 how snowy are you < 1358460677 333050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1358460704 154517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5/15 < 1358460705 453987 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.3333333333333333 < 1358460711 534658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very snowy............................ < 1358460771 209603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Star651? < 1358460779 19435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a big fan of Star651. < 1358460925 180248 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh, someone asked me a question < 1358460952 3631 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.999999952, but that might be a floating-point error. < 1358460972 727255 :derkus!~derk@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1358461341 489776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love floating point errors < 1358461343 542656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO SHACHAF NO < 1358461406 490027 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are only an unfortunate consequence of our lack of infinite-memory computers < 1358461480 973188 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :once I perfect my design for an aleph-null megabyte RAM, such errors will be in the past < 1358461561 315888 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to represent real numbers with only aleph-null memory? < 1358461583 691497 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computable reeeals < 1358461584 353891 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358461601 800290 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aleph-null bits have aleph-one possible states < 1358461626 403272 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1358461702 420658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't be using it until we have beth-three ecc ram though < 1358461805 806689 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what you could do with that < 1358461817 823818 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :functions of functions of reals? < 1358461818 45537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (pi :: CReal) == (pi :: CReal) < 1358461819 604160 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1358461825 97740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: MAGICIAN?? < 1358461854 65653 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to use it for my new startup, which will provide a Facebook-like API to real numbers and their dogs. < 1358461922 702496 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, this is also assuming infinite clock speed < 1358461950 777415 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :social networks of real numbers < 1358461952 81786 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's web 4.0 < 1358461969 280515 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PI: relationship with 'e': "it's complicated" < 1358461969 460709 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately we can't verify that it's exactly 4.0 yet, but we're working on it. < 1358461970 460232 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :web 3.999999... < 1358461995 573887 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-63.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1358461995 754331 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-63.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1358461995 754492 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1358462031 889025 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :220 and 284 are now friends < 1358462062 394430 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1358462064 37015 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1358462268 282019 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yall are just quiet cause you're still verifying 4.0 == 3.999999... < 1358462412 609397 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some variant of 0.999999999... = 1? < 1358462419 349859 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause you know how that turns out on the internet right? < 1358462461 876760 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure we all know basic math, myndzi. < 1358462477 722642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: NUH UH 0.99999999... = 2 < 1358462479 594081 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: somebody drives it off-topic by mentioning an aeroplane on a treadmill < 1358462526 589443 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1358462528 144850 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could an airplane on a treadmill going at .999...c through a black hole endorse lens? < 1358462529 964625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You missed a dumb complex number joke. :( < 1358462551 499186 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens? < 1358462556 561999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Um, you forgot the 7 at the end of 0.99999999...7!!! < 1358462634 790677 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 0.999999...7 + 0.000000...2 = 0.999999..., but 0.999999...7 + 0.000000...3 = 1. QED < 1358462665 279752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But does 0.999...5 round up to 0.999...10 or down to 0.999...0? < 1358462672 394918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's random. < 1358462674 240253 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my logic is consistent, although it ears no relation to any actual maths < 1358462679 184519 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 == 1 < 1358462680 705413 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1358462689 264232 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 == (1 :: CReal) < 1358462690 677054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1358462691 454375 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that settles that < 1358462700 73503 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. < 1358462712 160042 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999 === 1 < 1358462733 628774 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what language does lambdabot use again? < 1358462753 831927 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :typed befunge < 1358462755 691663 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate f x < 1358462756 767115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [x,f x,f (f x),f (f (f x)),f (f (f (f x))),f (f (f (f (f x)))),f (f (f (f (... < 1358462769 754383 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka caleskell < 1358462778 806986 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1358462786 287495 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :caleskell isn't two-dimensional, sorry < 1358462795 883683 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no i don't < 1358462799 604496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love befunge < 1358462802 710976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so easy < 1358462804 166679 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate x^2 < 1358462805 566327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shachaf < 1358462812 347552 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: the "> " is important. < 1358462813 737013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i tried....... < 1358462819 562202 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Lambda cube languages are three-dimensional...?) < 1358462823 237032 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't see that there < 1358462824 907279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge is like monoids < 1358462833 10571 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... shit, you were serious? < 1358462850 342124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lambdabot uses Haskell) < 1358462851 268360 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no" < 1358462879 404784 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, okay.) < 1358462901 84777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOUR SIMULTANEOUS TYPE SYSTEMS IN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE LAMBDA CUBE < 1358462935 539438 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate reverse "desserts" < 1358462948 166367 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate reverse "desserts" < 1358462949 497684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["desserts","stressed","desserts","stressed","desserts","stressed","dessert... < 1358462975 68160 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w00t i am a l33t Haskellx0r < 1358462982 471467 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackskeller < 1358462993 631269 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder what befunge is like on the hyperbolic plane < 1358462999 452322 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> permutations "desserts" < 1358463000 728167 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["desserts","edsserts","sedserts","esdserts","sdeserts","dseserts","ssedert... < 1358463110 210042 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort "maltos" < 1358463116 339267 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>sort "maltos" < 1358463124 625828 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also need the space. < 1358463138 46970 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I'll go find a real Haskell interpreter and stop flooding the chat < 1358463162 510479 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get ghci < 1358463291 546987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: the space is important too < 1358463296 302346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, hard to define < 1358463302 616861 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `real Haskell' < 1358463305 847672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: (get the Haskell Platform, if you're serious) < 1358463306 27735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowyowl: you can private message lambdabot < 1358463315 386891 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge on penrose tilings < 1358463320 596418 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there "befunge but on R^2" somewhere, I swear I saw it < 1358463333 83372 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just angled control around. seems like that'd be easy to generalize < 1358463343 245092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how would that work < 1358463355 686722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most ever befungiest funge you befunger funge < 1358463361 666746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do it properly you'd obviously have to process an uncountable number of instructions < 1358463365 354745 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you only allowed movement in horizontal or vertical directions, it might be interesting < 1358463383 463259 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the only control things are at specified points. it's like bouncing a laser around. < 1358463389 589485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1358463397 472464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote FOUR SIMULTANEOUS TYPE SYSTEMS IN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE LAMBDA CUBE < 1358463397 694805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge: easy? < 1358463398 362169 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda boring maybe < 1358463399 28202 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1358463400 193160 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man that would be cool though < 1358463408 998526 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge on Q^2 < 1358463421 256627 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because fractions that's why < 1358463430 84044 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah the practical implementation would be on Q² or whatever you call computables ² but that's "boring" < 1358463448 721292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also probably turing-complete < 1358463463 586273 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously we need superturing power. < 1358463467 820827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdb < 1358463469 244960 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdb is used like: `quote; `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also qdbformat < 1358463475 756034 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway what's the blackboard bold for computable reals < 1358463476 208028 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge on ordinals^2 < 1358463498 265324 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait: surreals^2, because fuck well-ordering < 1358463511 804696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, we need... SuperTuring! < 1358463513 201064 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ordinals^2 even a sensible anything < 1358463538 245017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/tmp/superturing.ogg < 1358463558 275292 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just... have that already, or... < 1358463566 334558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1358463569 970139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1358463590 204680 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a pretty cruddy soundfont < 1358463596 278712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcoerjan < 1358463599 417986 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1358463601 569633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcoerjan < 1358463602 470259 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcoerjan: not found < 1358463602 690759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly Sgeo_'s diagonalfish thing is down so his karaoke may be lost to the world < 1358463606 612289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "hav" < 1358463611 246940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's "addquote" < 1358463613 336765 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat superturing generated programmatically? < 1358463624 33172 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and talk esme baby is lost to history < 1358463626 428584 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was even. < 1358463635 38231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the musical corpus of #esoteric has crumbled < 1358463655 628164 :Snowyowl!5c6b415a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.107.65.90 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1358463721 602828 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1358463728 296696 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e^pi is transcendental, pi^pi hasn't been proven to be < 1358463742 222368 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :proving things transcendental is kind of a bitch, isn't it? < 1358463752 253965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love proving things transcendental < 1358463757 739133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e^pi is transcendental? < 1358463758 205386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the e^pi proof is so elegant though < 1358463766 464332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: o < 1358463769 454455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote FOUR SIMULTANEOUS TYPE SYSTEMS IN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE LAMBDA CUBE < 1358463773 90150 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :919) FOUR SIMULTANEOUS TYPE SYSTEMS IN A SINGLE ROTATION OF THE LAMBDA CUBE < 1358463786 346669 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e^pi = (e^(i*pi))^(-i) = (-1)^(-i) < 1358463800 733071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1358463801 622171 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [exp pi, pi ** pi] :: [CReal] < 1358463802 91764 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since -i is algebraic but not rational, e^pi is transcendental < 1358463803 412179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [23.1406926327792690057290863679485473802661,36.462159607207911770990826022... < 1358463844 246235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, -i is still not rational < 1358463852 656517 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the bit about how one of e*pi and e+pi is transcendental, or however it went. < 1358463897 16054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that works. at least one, probably both, cannot prove either. < 1358463907 950821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the euler-mascheroni constant that hasn't even been proven irrational? < 1358463916 472059 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1358463937 560738 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Cannot prove or just haven't proven? < 1358463945 431788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't proven < 1358463955 652314 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right just checking < 1358463972 566539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euler-maceroni < 1358463998 48631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : number γ has not been proved algebraic or transcendental. In fact, it is not even known whether γ is irrational. Continued fraction analysis reveals that if γ is rational, its denominator must be greater than 10^242080.[4] < 1358464002 119043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*The < 1358464002 825100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a big number < 1358464034 199573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The continued fraction has *at least* 470,000 terms" < 1358464051 139527 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I could try to retrieve it and put everything on dropbox < 1358464064 790971 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a "barely rational" number, if it's rational :P < 1358464071 627292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: do you have talk esme baby < 1358464075 338038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, do it < 1358464080 751108 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, but I have my karaoke < 1358464083 123905 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere < 1358464085 66625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough < 1358464086 17704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: an interesting question whether it could be provable that it is unprovable, though. < 1358464100 439888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i need to torture someone discreetly < 1358464110 813286 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am presently at a loss < 1358464144 637232 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: has anything relating to both transcendence and computability been worked on? < 1358464153 825799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't know < 1358464165 501813 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The non-computable numbers are a strict subset of the transcendental numbers" well there's something < 1358464169 559455 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that e+pi is noncomputable < 1358464187 30362 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also sort of obvious but whatever < 1358464208 634182 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is conjectured that all infinite continued fractions with bounded terms that are not eventually periodic are transcendental" oooooh < 1358464253 295662 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh of course i don't have access to the paper. damn you free market < 1358464320 30721 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1358464351 691877 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dx.doi.org/10.1007%2FBF02588048 < 1358464398 261625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1358464418 757648 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :paywalled for me too < 1358464492 953160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i literally just googled the title < 1358464494 964667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a pdf is the second result < 1358464497 216993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :step up yr game < 1358464519 579711 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe i wanted it /legitimately/ you damn piriahahahaha < 1358464545 843406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1358464567 730257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure but were you about to say 'piranha' there < 1358464637 967152 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so the two papers i have open are this thing on complex fractions, and something about buddhism vs cartesian dualist neuroscience. ...i wonder if buddhist mathematicians ever came up with continued fractions... < 1358464661 194085 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google communism < 1358465009 218181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he probably meant "pariah" hth < 1358465019 224458 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1358465048 490090 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirahã, of course. < 1358465080 596146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirah̃a < 1358465139 416734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pîranha < 1358465141 457450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"499 The Aryabhatiya contains the solution of indeterminate equations using continued fractions" may have been a hindu though < 1358465160 72903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pïränḧä < 1358465169 190390 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how that ḧ renders in a different font for me. < 1358465185 380256 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The Aryabhatiya begins with an introduction called the "Dasagitika" or "Ten Giti Stanzas." This begins by paying tribute to Brahman, the "Cosmic spirit" in Hinduism.» < 1358465206 492337 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-51-152.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80ryabha%E1%B9%AD%C4%ABya#Significant_verses amazing < 1358465290 940089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: lol < 1358465934 64219 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1358466752 123957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb Futuerjan: I saw your edits on the Fueue article <-- HOW CAN YOU DO THAT WITHOUT A GUI? < 1358466752 341945 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1358466828 1048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :without being zzo38 or something < 1358466968 604271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok he got that fixed < 1358467054 28206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : guess how many times i've almost written that subshit <-- ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE SUBCONSCIOUSLY SATISFIED WITH YOUR CURRENT JOB