< 1359158476 462078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What were you doing with it? < 1359158562 170523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids monoids monoids < 1359158566 310589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so easy i can hardly stand it < 1359158568 608334 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, look i'm not going to let you off with not watching farscape < 1359158589 812328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :farscape is on my list man < 1359158593 942138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I've seen like 3 epsiodes < 1359158596 1651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't shoot me < 1359158599 423136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a fearful english pansy < 1359158663 113729 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 episodes?? the second 2 are so naff! < 1359158677 874862 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they were like half way through < 1359158681 187020 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's a fact and that's a fact and that's a fact and that's a fact < 1359158682 875274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the last ones or something < 1359158703 916286 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god you can't just watch halfway through! < 1359158713 647011 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's a fact < 1359158735 689310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hi < 1359158739 133528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it was on tv ok < 1359158742 110331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I had nothing better to watch < 1359158758 860305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1359158766 879603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hi. And that's a fact. < 1359158800 187402 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ghost in the Shell is getting to me < 1359158810 879052 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1359158818 799932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be one of those langford things < 1359158819 16797 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee hee. glad you're enjoying it ^^ < 1359158881 141861 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 separate characters have said "and that's a fact" in maybe 5 (or fewer) narrative minutes. < 1359158897 749176 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, are you watching GitS or Brass Eye < 1359158906 91669 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ghost in the Shell < 1359158933 105359 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. there should be a brass eye special set in wherever gits was. < 1359158939 281634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh shachaf < 1359158944 633673 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shahchahf sprø sohm sehllehri ahnd cohsplayhs Nehpehta Leihjohn ohn weehkehnds. < 1359158957 826446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could I pet a lion on weekends instead? < 1359158958 859709 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nehpehta < 1359158966 458486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: with what < 1359158975 607431 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with his cosplay'd paw < 1359158988 221225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paw? < 1359158997 269113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought all those people didn't have hands or any hand-alikes. < 1359159033 770644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hands are _so_ last evolutionary stage < 1359159035 459547 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :her name's Leijon, she's probably a lion. < 1359159172 650649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about the spidermouthed one? < 1359159278 368530 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1359159397 127293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shoosh paps Phantom_Hoover  < 1359159417 55511 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get off me you weirdo < 1359159454 243714 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < *ac pounces on sgeo* < 1359159727 348379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Hey now! < 1359159745 939254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get your own personoid thing. < 1359159784 598373 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shachaf is the Nepeta here, Fiora. You'll have to be Eridan. < 1359159794 895345 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait, gamzee's your symbol, right < 1359159811 522674 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < *ac is pawsitively upset that someone has tailken her identity* < 1359159841 384266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody furriners < 1359159851 643120 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < i will not be eridan!! he is supurr cr33py and makes me uncomfurtable to be near him! < 1359159873 267189 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, but rules are rules. < 1359159938 396977 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::33 < could you help meowt here and change them? < 1359159964 110689 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qdbformat < 1359159965 940537 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: qdbformat: not found < 1359159970 523141 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1359159971 728270 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1359159998 930417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1359160000 590463 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ if [ \( "$topic" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e wisdom/ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; exit 0; \ elif [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ]; \ then cat "wisdom/$topic"; \ elif [ -e "wisdom/$topic1" ]; \ then cat "wisdom/$topic1"; \ else ec < 1359160068 489517 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1359160070 153299 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​^՟`) l~uN>6K'a6ED W< 2]1y8/!'U@ܓgǚ_4W >؏)jg"uw% x7Ft`.-80hG0 3ۚ/SU!X \ Ih n3H5nP:Yb,nMgC3Zug s-Dϔh..#@ ݦ.U񃉊tbVO+bT<&e?FPhK ˄*KڶBW6 IT*ӫ"- ~co)~ < 1359160076 333889 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty colors < 1359160078 5060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh ngevd < 1359160079 217504 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1;|?: O4Cz A \ {69oW[W4v6)Ϝx.b6 <J 7 &R.㚫[~%7҉DCv:xb`P}'1PL sԿNzF2AtqnWPw:0.$﹁ٵSԀ▶.Z@)Ԩ$r;O{NT[P!2 /1.l~KmVI~dl4 yGZ < 1359160093 414742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo a bihg improhvehmehnt < 1359160156 850469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: What person-thing does *that* typing quirk make me? < 1359160298 799033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ exit 0;//' bin/'?' < 1359160309 335850 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359160316 374582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1359160317 338521 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ if [ \( "$topic" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e wisdom/ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "wisdom/$topic" ]; \ then cat "wisdom/$topic"; \ elif [ -e "wisdom/$topic1" ]; \ then cat "wisdom/$topic1"; \ else echo "$1? < 1359160329 177697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1359160330 383042 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​upU%V.MU65HY)JV9-F#E].aF.M4(..|9 < 1359160346 73883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? @_@ < 1359160371 975566 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: as in, what troll talks with all the h's. < 1359160383 971040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thahnk you Bihke < 1359160392 7003 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nhp < 1359160403 523888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh Bike < 1359160405 290443 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hs? I just see a bunch of random noise < 1359160406 126068 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bihke ihs frohm Luhxehmbouhrg. < 1359160409 802748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh Fiora < 1359160411 249496 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiohra ihs frohm sohme ihslahnd sohmewhehre. She juhst doehsn't wahnt to be bohthehrehd, ahs she wohrks ouht hehr dohmihnahtiohn plahn ahs ihmmohrtahl queehn ohf the drahgohns. < 1359160414 668721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wehlcohme Fiora < 1359160414 885420 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1359160416 838294 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiohra: Wehlcohme to the ihntehrnahtiohnahl huhb fohr ehsohtehrihc prohgrahmmihng lahnguahge dehsihgn ahnd dehployhmehnt! Fohr mohre ihnfohrmahtiohn, chehck ouht ouhr wihki: http://ehsohlahngs.ohrg/wihki/Maihn_Pahge. (Fohr the ohthehr kihnd ohf ehsohtehrihca, try #ehsohtehrihc ohn ihrc.dahl.neht.) < 1359160424 837819 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihmmohrtahl < 1359160601 73669 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUHS RHOH-DHAH < 1359160654 755930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh Jafet < 1359160656 153725 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jahfeht? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359160663 581097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jafet < 1359160665 511937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's going on? < 1359160666 316461 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jafet? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359160710 436491 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? funpuns < 1359160711 889228 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359161372 274516 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1359161536 986752 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah GHCi 6.12.1 < 1359161538 223131 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1359161751 23376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gwat? < 1359161832 238984 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glahsghow Hashkehl < 1359161902 584962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohkay < 1359162100 145477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about the SQLite file format of columns, and of ALTER TABLE ... ADD COLUMN ... command which can add a column but with various restrictions, and not affecting the data already in the table, but if you add a row where the rightmost columns will have the constant default values will it omit them? < 1359164525 667689 :Ahhrc_Koehhn!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Ahhrc_Koehhn < 1359165045 780501 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359165080 815569 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359165171 904535 :derk_!~derk@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1359165335 511215 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359165391 90998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you even run PRAGMA commands in SQLite before the database is created? < 1359165503 648366 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359165612 903245 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359165625 971682 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1359165632 992487 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the Facebook Hacker's Cup thing likely to look good on resumes even if I don't get first place? < 1359165646 298965 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359165655 655363 :augur!~augur@c-68-34-26-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359166143 712905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would put it on, if you reached any level above "also ran" < 1359166161 913547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean I don't know if there are rounds or divisions or whatever but placing at any level sounds pretty good < 1359166184 337303 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are sponges that eat crustaceans. < 1359166191 639952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however you shouldn't include it if it's taking up space that could be used to list more relevant or impressive stuff < 1359166201 827472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, the resume is an advertisement about you, designed to get you a phone call < 1359166233 901677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't need to be comprehensive < 1359166287 692367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say that any significant work or software project experience beats coding competitions < 1359166303 234300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code you write for competitions is usually not good code, maintainable code, readable code < 1359166312 496780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not the same kind of code an employer wants you to write < 1359166406 117993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in my current view of programming and hacker culture, i have a pretty negative view of coding competitions < 1359166412 503127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've done them in the past and enjoyed them so *shrug* < 1359166473 564747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lately i've been enjoying a lot of games where there are levels and you try to beat the next level but you're not directly playing against other people < 1359166477 473001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359166522 192544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359166773 366973 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :These competitions look interesting: http://azspcs.net/ < 1359166829 45572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359166829 763971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do love the IOCCC though and I do want to run my own devious code contest < 1359166838 987237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how to square that with my other statement < 1359166923 177217 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The current competition is, apparently, an open problem.) < 1359166924 145248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the underhanded thing? < 1359166929 878340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1359166947 191333 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of devious code contests I guess < 1359166957 169941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean http://underhanded.xcott.com/ ? < 1359166963 947926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's neat < 1359166968 375621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's dead for 3 years :/ < 1359166974 934757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what I want to run would be a lot more open ended < 1359167002 507247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than a specific task I would just be interested to see code (in any language) that appears to straightforwardly do one thing but actually does a different devious thing < 1359167006 644861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few IOCCC entries like that too < 1359167039 831133 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds fun < 1359167075 936184 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The underhanded C contest probably hit a bit too close to home. < 1359167121 619093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while C may be the king of unintended security holes, I think every language has its own unique & interesting ways to hide behavior < 1359167172 516380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing underhanded code contest entries is a lot like making CTF levels, I suppose. < 1359167175 959860 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opening the contest to multiple languages and genres will make judging hard < 1359167190 187633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359167273 66434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: some CTF levels anyway < 1359167291 105887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not that interested in an 'underhanded' program which is just, like, a HTTP server with a buffer overflow < 1359167296 658362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can already find plenty of those < 1359167316 194190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1359167334 893704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of the more specialized ones. < 1359167409 570679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, not many CTF levels I've seen have been particularly "obviously correct". < 1359167414 804682 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining, like, an image processing program that reads an image, but actually executes part of the image as code when reading it < 1359167421 904490 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by sneakily smashing its own stack or something < 1359167427 772265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more that they've had obvious bugs but the trick was how to exploit those bugs. < 1359167440 317386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah, it varies < 1359167477 750538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one using negative chars to index an array was non-obvious, to me, but maybe this is a vuln class that most other people know about < 1359167564 986466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like code that looks safe but is actually dangerous due to compiler optimizations < 1359167626 575644 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's easy, just require the image processing program to read metafile < 1359167667 445315 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A metafile image consists of a sequence of Windows GDI function calls.) < 1359167678 946584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha brilliant < 1359167682 902182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, does it really < 1359167765 379339 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Essentially, a WMF file stores a list of function calls that have to be issued to the Windows Graphics Device Interface (GDI) layer to display an image on screen." < 1359167846 88608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1359167872 453332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows never meta file it didn't like < 1359168420 685805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids monoids monoids monoids monoids < 1359168425 13767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the easiest thing in the world < 1359168431 469569 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to use SQLite amalgamation but maybe it doesn't work; I want to use the following options: SQLITE_OMIT_AUTHORIZATION SQLITE_OMIT_BLOB_LITERAL SQLITE_OMIT_DEPRECATED SQLITE_OMIT_EXPLAIN SQLITE_OMIT_FLOATING_POINT SQLITE_OMIT_INTEGRITY_CHECK SQLITE_OMIT_TRACE SQLITE_OMIT_UTF16 SQLITE_OMIT_UNICODE < 1359168445 447551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, there is already the problem, since there is no SQLITE_OMIT_UNICODE. < 1359168448 358831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLITE_OMIT_DATABASE < 1359168471 716853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You shouldn't omit Unicode. < 1359168533 873842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLITE_OMIT_FRAME_POINTER < 1359168584 167130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh sqlite < 1359168586 177614 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlihte? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359168587 144467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh kmc < 1359168588 580643 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359168633 219382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn kmc ran the Internation Devious Code Contest of 2013 < 1359168636 672555 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359168639 719475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn kmc ran the International Devious Code Contest of 2013 < 1359168640 442325 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://noctis-aeterna.tumblr.com/post/41490130158/ heh, dailywtfish thing on my dash < 1359168643 621385 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359168657 599615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But I want to omit Unicode because I am not using those functions and just want length to be the C strlen function instead, and so on. < 1359168668 173875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: You should use Unicode. < 1359168716 673259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: What's the "æterna" thing? < 1359168742 274252 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, just a person I follow < 1359168753 508599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was you. < 1359168774 809749 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fioraaeterna.tumblr.com/ < 1359168785 731019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. The common theme is "æterna". < 1359168791 415436 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a total coincidence < 1359168795 630599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1359168796 413190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she is the only person I follow with that < 1359168801 231466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can't resist turning "ae" into "æ".) < 1359168809 87951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too lazy to even try typing that >.> < 1359168814 118072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just AltGr-z < 1359168834 824274 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :altgr? < 1359168856 879961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the angry version of the alt key < 1359168866 508290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the German version, actually. < 1359168877 259327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :germans are angry < 1359168885 957312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Set your keyboard layout to "altgr-intl" or something. < 1359168893 83285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the future. < 1359168926 763772 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt-z just makes a z < 1359168927 4373 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can type important words like "hellørjan" with ease! < 1359168927 221075 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want it with Unicode. I want it to treat it as C strings, without having to check every byte to see how to calculate length and so on. < 1359168945 82827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use UCS-2.625 < 1359168951 366988 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: altgr is right alt in certain keyboard layouts, like us international (but apparently not yours) < 1359168963 233559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right alt just does the same < 1359168978 860200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is UCS-2.625? < 1359168979 102756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard that if your right alt key isn't AltGr, it makes you racist. < 1359168986 857771 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, because you have a different keyboard layout < 1359168997 36764 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :default american layouts often don't have altgr. < 1359168997 518500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Storing 3 21-bit Unicode code points in one 64-bit word. < 1359169012 468425 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, I don't know what my main layout is but the alternate one is a japanese IME < 1359169028 682530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you using X11? < 1359169035 541153 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably just "US" or something on Windows. < 1359169035 758114 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm I'm using windows < 1359169052 288620 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can switch pretty easily with the control panel, especially if you've done it before for japanese. < 1359169072 906175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1359169080 597213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure Windows has the right layout by default? < 1359169091 284683 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows usually uses some boring american one, yeah. < 1359169097 582732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But I want to diable Unicode entirely. (So that, UTF-8 text could still be stored in the database, but the program ignores it, and those fields may be used by other programs though.) < 1359169101 976384 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of the slightly less boring american one that is US-international. < 1359169128 171972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Just store things as binary blobs. < 1359169140 627002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :US-international with deadkeys is evil!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1359169170 977334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well yes, I could store them as blob formats but then it isn't used with SQL strings and null-terminated strings and so on. < 1359169259 856416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, UTF-8 can be up to 36-bits (even though Unicode is only 21-bits), in case 21-bits is not enough. < 1359169352 760049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually if 0xFF is also defined then maybe you can have more than 36-bits < 1359169450 259541 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you don't use Unicode, how can I use Chinese text? < 1359169575 225589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This specific program I am making is not meant for Chinese text, as it wouldn't be useful in what I am making. (You can still store Chinese text in the database, though, if you want to use the same database with other programs.) < 1359169740 922448 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1359169900 29450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some other programs I may make, you might want to use Chinese texts and so on, though. So, in a later version of TeXnicard I plan to add an option for UTF-8, but only decoding into 32-bit numbers (even beyond range of Unicode), ignoring everything else about Unicode and requiring the template file to have stuff to deal with the ones you are using. < 1359170659 958348 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :でも、中国語のテキストがとても必要な事! < 1359170683 236486 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :是非大切さが最高! < 1359170704 837673 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :それ日本語やんけw < 1359170729 604905 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why do you hate the Chinese? That's racist. < 1359170740 624957 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"w" < 1359170743 127905 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :うん。俺中国語分からん。 < 1359170752 317048 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Japanese "lol". < 1359170752 558254 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :同じく。 < 1359170759 717489 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wwwwwwwwwwww < 1359170766 253484 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :っるっせw < 1359170766 493329 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely. < 1359171029 142879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I don't hate the Chinese. < 1359171040 851853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wu america < 1359171232 475817 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1359171692 183184 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naruto treats copying an opponents moves exactly as a good thing. But in Go, there are ways to defeat an opponent who attempts that < 1359171737 94029 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're reading naruto? < 1359171771 202095 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watching < 1359171776 254310 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1359171784 140702 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the start? < 1359171833 314027 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359171888 109869 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched it when it came out, and man it was sslooooowww < 1359171940 780364 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like, "Episode 14: Clash on the Bridge!! Exciting Battle!!!" and the episode consists of characters surrounded by mist, not being able to see anything, and contemplating their next strategy out loud for 23 minutes. < 1359171989 440044 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the thing that bothers me, the continuous contemplation and exposition out loud, in front of enemies, wasting time < 1359172007 361617 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, the enemy should be killing them. Or if the enemy is talking, they should be killing the enemy) < 1359172021 364135 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they can't kill anyone if it's not their turn. Never played a JRPG? < 1359172085 182905 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359172128 172071 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways when you get bored of that, get some deep and philosophical anime meant for adults like K-on < 1359172139 508926 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo, it's almost like they have an animation budget. < 1359172202 475248 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359172321 217314 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359172323 144148 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost like their target audience ?????? ?????? < 1359172339 767067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh monqy < 1359172341 494681 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The friehndshihp mohnqy ihs ahn ahnciehnt Chihnehse myhstehry; ahsk ihtihduhs21 fohr dehtaihls. < 1359172344 744151 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1359172350 819449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no are you disapproving < 1359172361 411623 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many anime I need to watch < 1359172367 477111 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't heard of K-on < 1359172377 327183 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ゚∀゚) < 1359172378 67024 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a deep philisophical audience for adults < 1359172407 736082 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :audience/anime < 1359172409 182376 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sooner you learn to direct your interests only towards cute girls doing cute things the better < 1359172409 906037 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops woops < 1359172415 843142 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a show about {4,5} moe high school girls acting cute while taking part in a _____ club < 1359172426 177264 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes and tea and cake < 1359172428 454122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loves how many anime she just described < 1359172432 797015 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :philosophy club philosophy club < 1359172438 445908 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's the fifth WHO'S THE FIFTH < 1359172446 909580 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...azusa? < 1359172448 360533 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1359172451 256074 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1359172453 702736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: can you tell me a story about {4,5} monoids < 1359172461 859025 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suzumiya Haruhi has all of that except there are boys too < 1359172463 584419 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they talk about sartre and nietzsche and stuff < 1359172482 506068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a god that stays dead, not plays dead < 1359172512 586361 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no < 1359172530 294024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate monoids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1359172547 160752 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truly good shows do away with unneeded male characters altogether < 1359172548 366208 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1359172572 110198 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about the unneeded female characters too < 1359172574 114105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truly good shows do away with both unneeded male and female characters < 1359172575 78640 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unneeded pets < 1359172580 670688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if they're unneeded, who needs 'em? < 1359172584 589305 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unneeded farm animals < 1359172586 464977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if u get my meening" < 1359172586 736523 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unneeded zoo animals < 1359172589 189827 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unneeded wild animals < 1359172594 136345 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unneeded plants? < 1359172601 855421 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unneeded fungi????? < 1359172607 240835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungi are fun < 1359172611 907227 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That just reminds me of the Japanese evacuation of Manchuria. < 1359172613 795061 :Bike_!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1359172641 210038 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: but if they did that, there'd be none left to be generic useless protagonists! < 1359172642 969239 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truly good show is one you experience when detached from the binds of conciousness < 1359172652 199608 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs protagonists when we can have slice of life < 1359172667 576905 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's a male protagonist it's probably a lame light novel/eroge adaptation < 1359172669 64935 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Suzumiya Haruhi count as slice of life? < 1359172675 709242 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can get a bit slice-of-life-y at times < 1359172676 435193 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't think it does no < 1359172695 860311 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean there's like, a plot < 1359172698 96606 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mainly a light novel adaptation that's somewhat less bad than the usuals < 1359172699 654098 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And twists < 1359172716 253767 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's a relatively "old" light novel adaptation so < 1359172721 693741 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the same episode seven times! < 1359172722 417983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: What's novel about it? < 1359172724 853297 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The shit they've been putting out for the last five years defies understanding < 1359172732 883967 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that a pun ~_~ < 1359172733 607523 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I thought it was eight < 1359172738 743263 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again I never watched that. < 1359172745 243937 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: jphinano.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/all-light-novels-are-the-same/ you'd like this post XD < 1359172746 211969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Every single thing I say in IRC is a pun. < 1359172753 391309 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: "important" < 1359172754 698579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them are so well-hidden you never catch on. < 1359172774 360151 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that a pun < 1359172785 749929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "maybe" < 1359172786 494399 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, light novel title time? < 1359172809 276490 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you understand this "animes" thing, do you have a pun about it < 1359172815 875464 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/ln_title_bot < 1359172827 251479 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: OMG < 1359172845 64641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes but "its advanced" < 1359172849 887925 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. are those actual titles? < 1359172854 700245 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359172857 109892 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1359172858 863565 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is wonderful < 1359172867 742092 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The links are cover pictures. < 1359172869 800014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: you might have to level up before you can "get" it < 1359172876 571533 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The little sister is a dragon and the older brother is prematurely balding" i dunno, this seems pretty good < 1359172886 135167 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if you google any of the Japanese titles you'll see they're available on Amazon. < 1359172902 752900 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1359172905 696391 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've become a character in an otome game" < 1359172922 544039 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :悪に堕ちたら美少女まみれで大勝利!! | Who cares if I'm the bad guy? Fuck yeah, I got bitches | http://minus.com/lrgyzxBOicuL < 1359172924 31115 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The ultimate girlfriend has black hair and glasses" I really don't think that narrows it down much mr. MC < 1359172925 948379 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This translation is the best < 1359172930 777988 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i3.minus.com/ibvxzBUsgG1IfP.jpg Where the fuck is the balding? < 1359172932 879458 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these titles are bad < 1359172939 694856 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These translations are inspired. < 1359172948 388020 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Can't you see the guy holding onto his wig? < 1359172951 197331 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think he's covering it < 1359172967 776261 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh what kind of cover is it if the title isn't completely superfluous?? < 1359172980 272660 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it like, a standard LN thing now to have titles that have nearly nothing to do with the content? < 1359172995 155756 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also standard to make the titles ridiculously long sentences instead of real titles < 1359172995 711232 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not well versed on this ln nonsense but it sounds bad < 1359173007 197532 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359173014 953334 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this one has a girl in bondage on the cover < 1359173027 335652 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, in English, not "Generic little sister", but "It turned out that my little sister is generic, or so I've heard" < 1359173049 632698 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: A "light novel" is basically a relatively easy to read novel. Generally the target audience is teenagers and young adults. < 1359173051 661608 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, that actually seems like it could be pretty good < 1359173063 348808 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they've got pictures. < 1359173063 588574 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them are quite good. A ton of them are crappy. < 1359173065 72429 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some kind of PKD-ish thing about a guy discovering his little sister is a clone. < 1359173069 421386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Light novels are like young adult novels, often with some pictures and stuff < 1359173070 627246 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you only need to actually read a fraction of the pages. < 1359173076 11605 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have to wonder whether the narrator is actually just delusional. < 1359173081 516471 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a defining attribute, but yes, many of them have illustrations. < 1359173090 156208 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hypothesis: about 13% of japanese culture is actually pkd with more porn < 1359173090 395420 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in recent years there's been a massive flood of terrible light novels < 1359173103 927770 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seem to all be some combination of a little sister fetish and harems < 1359173112 65963 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly aiming at anime adaptations (???) < 1359173114 21783 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :little sister harems??? it could happen < 1359173119 870810 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat me to it < 1359173121 608561 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaha < 1359173125 966715 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know it'll happen < 1359173126 940456 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite likely. Little sister harem anime is a thing. < 1359173129 189730 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: jphinano.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/just-as-expected-my-light-novel-list-wasnt-wrong-after-all/ < 1359173130 392676 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1359173144 852080 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" My little sister attracts other women and I am suffering" this should be about magnets. < 1359173147 30657 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it already exists probably, but not in the true sense of the word 'harem' ;P < 1359173147 513154 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "being done before" doesn't stop anime from happening. < 1359173160 899027 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: "harem anime" doesn't really, so. < 1359173169 357033 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying < 1359173172 814615 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone could crank it up to 11 < 1359173181 8302 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anubis! This is how I became the strongest death worm" and this could be about a mongolian death worm trying to make his way in a world that treats him as a cryptid. < 1359173183 731444 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I cannot explain why my girlfriend has ears and a tail" the cover of the book has a girl with neither [animal] ears or a tail < 1359173189 907159 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Little Sister Factory" D: < 1359173192 109668 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should have more anime about caliphate infighting? < 1359173198 67421 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: YES < 1359173204 112915 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: maybe that's why he can't explain it < 1359173210 611803 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1359173214 149498 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :she's obviously shy < 1359173216 224587 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hiding them < 1359173218 553337 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest thing i know is Otoyomegatari which isn't really close at all < 1359173222 28727 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he's just delusional < 1359173226 938368 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :central asia ftw < 1359173233 187632 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :a delusion is fine too < 1359173245 845631 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i1.minus.com/ibekVQokOfX3Pw.jpg Um hello, no death worms?? < 1359173252 132171 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "Anuvis", however. Good romanization. < 1359173276 585373 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... The only accurate one from the kana. < 1359173278 896484 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, how was that pronounced in Ancient Egypt, I wonder. Do we even know much about Egyptian vocals? Did they write rhyming poetry? < 1359173288 420109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: should i read "death note" < 1359173293 212707 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're death worms that can transform into little girls < 1359173295 105420 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh < 1359173297 658047 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually "anuvisu" there. (anuùīsu) < 1359173300 183529 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :little girls that can transform into death worms < 1359173303 86716 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anubis" is probably hilariously inaccurate itself, given Europe's history with well everything. < 1359173312 712694 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: no, the first one is better. < 1359173313 915950 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: idk if you want < 1359173334 307802 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shotgun Detective", now here's an anime < 1359173340 518426 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i was also thinking maybe that girl is eating the death worms, but they're radioactive death worms so < 1359173341 760154 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1359173349 51836 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i5.minus.com/iYCtfBznaBzBP.jpg wow fuck nevermind < 1359173354 841086 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1359173360 938431 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks anime alright < 1359173364 125515 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :put some clothes on lady < 1359173381 315786 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :> anime about searching for shotguns < 1359173383 15915 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `anime'Not in scope: `about'Not in scope: `searching'Not in s... < 1359173385 226776 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :escher light novels http://minus.com/l20WYOO1tvaBa < 1359173390 612886 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you fuck up "Shotgun Detective"? All you need is a detective with a shotgun, and you have gold. Did you learn nothing from Shotgun Ninja?! < 1359173392 209257 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's that guy's uhh < 1359173394 945426 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :detective stuff < 1359173403 607291 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like magnifying glass, goofy hat, bubble pipe < 1359173410 965368 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no, he's modern. < 1359173414 18006 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all in the trenchcoat. < 1359173414 746280 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs those when you have a shotgun < 1359173426 3590 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: still like the sulfufic acid there < 1359173478 386804 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That's the illustrator's name. < 1359173488 679718 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck! < 1359173490 647388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use a shotgun as a pipe < 1359173491 916761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a pinch < 1359173508 188260 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can you use one as a magnifying glass or goofy hat < 1359173520 598705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MAY LIKE TO KNOW THAT SELFLOADING KARBIN OF SIMONOV TYPE IS COMPLETE SISTEMA FOR SMOKE DOPE, IN ADDITION TO RIFLE FOR KILL ENEMIES OF PARTY. < 1359173522 779846 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shotgun would make for a pretty goofy hat. < 1359173524 225776 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it transforms < 1359173547 443426 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: my headcanon is that it's really what the artist used to bend her spine line that < 1359173551 8057 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*like that < 1359173576 39403 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are more practical concerns at play there < 1359173580 999090 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think acid would help there. < 1359173582 708353 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like attracting young male readers < 1359173585 604130 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not that kind of acid, anyway. < 1359173596 649636 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could like, eat through bone with it? I dunno < 1359173603 131401 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe she's dead < 1359173615 436548 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it would have to be formaldehyde < 1359173625 36669 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once the book's written she's not needed so they off her < 1359173631 318993 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pose her all pretty for the covershot < 1359173635 430079 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam instant hit < 1359173640 935547 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so easy to make this bullshit into mildly interesting premises, fuck < 1359173662 276374 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Schroedinger's Cat-Ears Girl" < 1359173694 327092 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://i4.minus.com/irp3jEbulk07z.jpg thinking this might deserve an escher girls submission < 1359173704 880979 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :her hips just kind of evaporated < 1359173710 280245 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :....wow < 1359173723 840898 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they somehow avoided the temptation to show even more of her upper body though < 1359173796 169386 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MummyPoko! ~One day, I awoke as a Mongolian Death Worm.~" < 1359173820 829859 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they killed her but they killed her a bit too hard and when they reconstructed her her butt was in the wrong place, woops < 1359173841 598879 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deadlines, budgets, it'll have to do < 1359173876 918963 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i7.minus.com/ibk8GEDK3vjCgZ.jpg Oh, hey, they put up that one ABe illustrated. < 1359173900 320648 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :negative happy chainsaw edge? < 1359173901 743750 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Negative happy! Chainsaw edge < 1359173903 195659 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1359173938 918186 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's by the same guy as Welcome to the NHK, if you've heard of that. 's about crazy people < 1359173947 914408 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1359173955 628934 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the guy's name < 1359173968 796947 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :NHK wasn't a light novel though was it, it was liek a proper book < 1359173978 148496 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks Lainish? < 1359173991 428624 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: like i said, abe. < 1359173996 836437 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh riiiight he's... yeah < 1359174001 558751 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bad with names @_@ < 1359174005 250990 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NHKlightnovel.JPG he did NHK too. < 1359174014 386409 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABe I can remember because it's three letters and he writes it dumb. < 1359174015 385379 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum. < 1359174040 865196 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how long until my misaki comes to save me .__. < 1359174057 321309 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you read NHK really weirdly < 1359174071 89849 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never read it. < 1359174084 260862 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well, she's fucking crazy. < 1359174087 284892 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoilers! < 1359174090 469710 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my brain filtered out the bad parts < 1359174095 320074 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly ¬u¬ < 1359174096 43171 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of it? < 1359174107 761520 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did listen to some guy's lecture about the book at a convention though. < 1359174120 84895 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They must've toned it down a *lot* for the manga and even more for the animated adaptation < 1359174128 592467 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guy's lecture < 1359174131 831793 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they cut out all the cocaine. < 1359174136 489931 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the CP < 1359174138 418506 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the and the. < 1359174144 301945 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1359174148 134500 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1359174149 351423 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo alot < 1359174149 581570 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot anyways. < 1359174161 753966 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The perverted gentleman with a ten-meter diameter" ok, i'm done after this, nothing can beat this < 1359174181 159327 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1359174184 939700 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1359174206 213242 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. done. < 1359174242 799261 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :半径十メートルの変態紳士 < 1359174244 523333 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1359174246 491460 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It exists. < 1359174285 609015 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Although* that probably was never published. Just appeared in the list of finalists for a competition or something. < 1359174305 611091 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...also to be exact that's a ten-meter radius not a diameter ¬u¬ < 1359174388 339305 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was wondering about that. < 1359174433 251675 :Lumpio-!~matti@62-113-182-248.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it does sound much better in English the other way < 1359174467 881305 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1359174519 478551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh object < 1359174521 469809 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahn ohbjehct ihs juhst sohmehthihng ihn a cahtehgohry. < 1359174553 507624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't that say "an object is just an object in a category of objects" or something? < 1359174799 162659 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1359174853 918782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imo it was a pretty bad point < 1359174863 368288 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the joke < 1359174868 804536 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said "good point" but i meant "bad point" < 1359174880 706267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1359174890 201380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you say one thing but mean another thing < 1359174896 273384 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359174901 620538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the joke that yes < 1359174904 817031 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359174906 584372 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1359174909 474827 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*woops < 1359174932 546228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"caught in ur own web of lies" < 1359174949 102915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Have I ever made a good point? :-( < 1359174959 403526 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk maybe < 1359175017 737403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the time when i was all like < 1359175020 891901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::·( < 1359175083 498109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'll show you how to be a nerd if you go out with me!" still cannot even this twitter < 1359175119 403455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"George's father tries to promote COBOL at SF startups. Kramer accidentally joins the R7RS working group." < 1359175223 810721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any words that rhyme with monoid < 1359175225 783512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or monoids < 1359175226 749180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :toroid < 1359175234 146255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mongoloid < 1359175243 268766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :steroid < 1359175247 711371 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycloid! < 1359175286 792462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :marvin the paranoid monoid < 1359175327 98007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any of these are rhymes. :-( < 1359175910 791833 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote stereoid < 1359175911 47428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. < 1359175925 167985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monoid < 1359175926 374070 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359175939 890001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run > bin/quonoid echo quote monoid; chmod +x bin/quonoid < 1359175942 937143 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359176441 345229 :Nisstyre_!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1359176521 601739 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359176701 997418 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1359177508 989251 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many times are things going to be re-explained in this series? (Naruto) < 1359177515 10485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh naruto < 1359177516 582133 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nahruhto? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359177580 803960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | shuf < 1359177582 254300 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck \ ais523 \ oregon \ ehird \ fungot \ mad \ coppro \ monad \ d-module \ heck \ phantom__________hoover \ monoids \ homestuck \ lifthrasiir \ ievan \ wiki \ wisdom \ parsley \ coffee \ pizza \ footnote 8 \ taneb \ bike \ atrix \ banach-tarski \ you \ intercal \ boily \ lens \ phantom___hoover \ hexham \ irc \ ø \ helsinki \ devious \ kalli < 1359177594 466761 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: gyaaaaa! < 1359177605 373888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh pizza < 1359177606 820355 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pihzza ihs a kihnd ohf rhuhbahrb pie mahde wihthouht rhuhbahrb. < 1359177614 380436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh irc < 1359177615 804600 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihrc ihs uhsehlehss. < 1359177643 441991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh heck < 1359177645 493640 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehck ihs whehre you ehnd uhp ihf you dohn't behliehve ihn Gohsh. < 1359177655 297841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh homestuck < 1359177656 986523 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hohmehstuhck ihs a cuhlt rehlihgiohn fohr dihsahffehctehd teehns. Gahmzee drihvehs the buhs. < 1359177711 137996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh helsinki < 1359177712 430240 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehlsihnki ihs the cahpihtahl ohf Fihnlahnd. Ihts maihn suhbuhrb ihs Hehxhahm, Nohrthuhmbehrlahnd. < 1359177715 163332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom | shuf < 1359177716 481751 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir \ burma \ välkommen \ atriq \ ievan \ irc \ bonvenon \ structural subtyping \ phantom___hoover \ cyberiad \ scotland \ oklopol \ gaszpacho \ d-module \ the us \ misspellings of croissant \ devious \ quote \ you \ gaspacho \ the them \ hagb4rd \ ☃ \ norway \ ngevd \ egobot \ footnote 8 \ pietbot \ flagpole \ fungot \ itidus19 \ coppro < 1359177722 893584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Sorry! < 1359177727 829786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh pietbot < 1359177730 224899 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piehtboht ihs the ohnly thihng thaht cahn dehfeaht fuhngoht. < 1359177734 963813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh the us < 1359177736 282444 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UhS ihs the couhntry ohppohsehd to the THEhM. < 1359178225 841374 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :jlul < 1359178228 496206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if foreign keys referencing other files are allowed in SQLite? < 1359178246 423697 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the regex should be two regexes < 1359178250 816995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :one for each case < 1359178255 266126 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :upper and lower < 1359178268 946907 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the US becomes UHS and THEM becomes THEHM < 1359178291 390946 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do uS and Us turn into? < 1359178336 445651 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot < 1359178336 702661 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the best acid? where is it? < 1359178337 650647 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot cannot be stopped by that sword alone. < 1359178344 291060 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever you think of Naruto, the music is good < 1359178362 20728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: kmc would be the person to ask < 1359178362 504116 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that paper ( clinger's) has a very precise meaning in c or even c++' useless < 1359178369 277673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (Where is it?) < 1359178818 67538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1359178819 792120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not know < 1359178966 346446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about just good acid? < 1359178983 195188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1359178988 863886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i know some people who might know < 1359178990 627565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do not know < 1359179003 513182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :acid is not, how you say, efficient market commodity < 1359179157 148603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1359179159 560670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about hydrochloric acid? < 1359179366 870840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Bike: the best acid? where is it? < 1359179367 442202 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what are flow info and scope id). if police is sent to irc" without realizing other stuff is fixed :)) < 1359179370 536106 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :939) Bike: the best acid? where is it? < 1359179381 191206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you have to tell me if you're a cop < 1359179382 153267 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: he left, never to any other. green tabasco sauce and fnord. they work " well enough" and abysmal more like " wow, cool, you can try < 1359179430 705079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1359179431 468386 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it seems to have stabilized at fnord iterations and isn't really assignment, it gives you a 3d woman < 1359179452 456268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot… < 1359179453 179248 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: try reading the appropriate documentation, fez??? for the lower-case alphabet bit? < 1359179461 185773 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, fez, what the hell < 1359179486 558970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good style < 1359179488 76078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this irc < 1359179489 362291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1359179489 603103 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1359179496 187635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good style < 1359179496 428249 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: advice 11903 for edw: i am gavino. < 1359179511 787266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good advice < 1359179512 267446 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: then you'll get to that collapse point fnord the z3 was the tc one. native speakers. < 1359179694 950511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi monqy < 1359179695 192473 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, i was mostly fighting with this encoding stuff fnord was never published in english, i can't say, on the fly then outputs it < 1359179699 664989 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1359179705 388214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: hi fungot < 1359179706 613722 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: or did i just wipe everything outside of /proc, should you happen to feel coherent right now? just experimenting with my graph version, stacks and numbers are very different < 1359180111 601557 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359180138 456624 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359180162 563562 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359180974 848156 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator_safety < 1359180993 153460 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also, if you get killed, everything is lost" < 1359181005 202425 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the Narutoverse hasn't heard of having a bus factor of >1 < 1359181018 364337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have they heard of monoids? < 1359181018 882191 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...then again, neither have some software projects, including VP < 1359181035 94822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1?hh narutoverse < 1359181044 46205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh narutoverse < 1359181045 527024 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nahruhtohvehrse? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359181060 924529 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn narutoverse is a place where they haven't heard of having a bus factor of >1. < 1359181064 320973 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359181159 865109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh naruto < 1359181161 389892 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nahruhto? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359181165 533932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: who is naruto < 1359181206 286604 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -e 's/$/ Sgeo drives the bus./' wisdom/narutoverse < 1359181207 492573 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :narutoverse is a place where they haven't heard of having a bus factor of >1. Sgeo drives the bus. < 1359181220 359415 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -ie 's/$/ Sgeo drives the bus./' wisdom/narutoverse < 1359181220 601164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet++ < 1359181223 253928 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359181228 601030 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the shorter and more familiar strings of stringed musical instruments, the cable of a space elevator has a natural resonant frequency. < 1359181425 800571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh space elevator < 1359181427 626051 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :spahce ehlehvahtohr? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359181488 922204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh chicago < 1359181490 338096 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :chihcahgo? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359181492 909404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot elevator < 1359181493 697036 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: right. a minor third has a ratio of fnord :d < 1359181497 386111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's chicago like < 1359181497 869195 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i support riastradh's requests for more parens as well. to prove the compliance < 1359181507 973097 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Like the shorter and more familiar strings of stringed musical instruments, the cable of a space elevator has a natural resonant frequency." >"wisdom/space elevator" < 1359181510 745252 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359181516 860687 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh space elevator < 1359181518 556623 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lihke the shohrtehr ahnd mohre fahmihliahr strihngs ohf strihngehd muhsihcahl ihnstruhmehnts, the cahble ohf a spahce ehlehvahtohr hahs a nahtuhrahl rehsohnahnt frehquehncy. < 1359181523 913415 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, good. < 1359181681 350095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf did you get the crypto puzzles yet < 1359181713 512477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I haven't sent an email. < 1359181746 226650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they're "that good" < 1359183643 558451 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359189341 549165 :nkg!ae71ca36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.113.202.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359189387 22335 :nkg!ae71ca36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.113.202.54 QUIT :Client Quit < 1359189926 574020 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359189995 817249 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359190011 421215 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359190157 791224 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Parsec assume a single correct unique parsing? < 1359191774 358146 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION manages to do what he needs without Parsec < 1359191820 34043 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it an interesting thing < 1359191901 35619 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1359191915 31956 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it was difficult for me, so I guess that's interesting? < 1359191922 978162 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359191947 458604 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you write a parser by hand < 1359192343 774902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Are covariant proxies useful? < 1359192362 693096 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1359192369 828208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't either. < 1359192377 14468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any use for them off-hand. < 1359192448 448105 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359192486 618048 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359192581 44594 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: dead < 1359192871 105532 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, yes < 1359192896 170043 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know there's a reason why parsy things exist right < 1359192900 941045 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because writing parsers by hand is dumb < 1359192983 49519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what if i want a streaming parser!! < 1359192998 7264 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get someone to write a parsy thing for those, then use that < 1359193012 548818 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to use Parsec but it ate my memory < 1359193014 846660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: please write a parsy thing for those < 1359193030 28913 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: did you make a memory leaking infinite loop < 1359193031 487367 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't know if the specs even had a unique parsing < 1359193117 978578 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a matter of fact there is not. < 1359193126 702659 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are strings that can validly be parsed multiple ways. < 1359193143 712845 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no!!! < 1359193179 255936 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1359193195 609921 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your hand-written parser assume a single correct unique parsing ? < 1359193205 22895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: can i recommend monoids < 1359193207 432527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love them < 1359193214 149949 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, no it doesn't. < 1359193218 360892 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::0 < 1359193235 856852 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps what does it mean to "assume" a single correct unique parsing < 1359193350 374980 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1359194203 704490 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359194377 510228 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359194419 570094 :impomatic!~digital_w@187.120.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1359194425 331238 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359194438 878033 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHCi is not very easy to interrupt when you do something dumb < 1359194608 693792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think you are correct. < 1359195007 707345 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made some changes to the SQLite command shell. Now there is the command .virtual to create an empty virtual table module so that you can create virtual tables for use with other programs, and .extract command to extract blob data from SELECT statements to an external file, and the blobfile(...) function to read an external file. < 1359195336 29738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359195615 303320 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359195779 63023 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1359196292 592823 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1359196662 418504 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359201003 541725 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359202179 619574 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1359204558 612776 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359205542 920181 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359207223 381026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh zzo38 < 1359207228 977033 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 ihs noht ahctuahlly the nehxt vehrsiohn ohf fuhngoht, muhch ahs iht may seehm. < 1359207237 628748 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi fuhngoht < 1359207238 110531 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i mean, he has the materials with which to fiddle now? great! it is a top-level or body form, or so < 1359207247 375710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: or so < 1359207247 615099 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i cannot possibly fathom why one would want to do ( source foo) or something < 1359207256 667565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1359207259 416881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot either, fungot. i cannot either < 1359207259 705889 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the decryption part isn't correct, is unhelpful, i guess. ( but i guess it could be a movie :-s < 1359207266 102036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1359207278 301299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'dachaf < 1359207295 573281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's good. "g'dachaf". < 1359207301 676051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 g'dachaf < 1359207301 934245 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :t'qnpuns < 1359207306 190169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wehlcohme oerjan < 1359207307 952426 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oehrjahn: Wehlcohme to the ihntehrnahtiohnahl huhb fohr ehsohtehrihc prohgrahmmihng lahnguahge dehsihgn ahnd dehployhmehnt! Fohr mohre ihnfohrmahtiohn, chehck ouht ouhr wihki: http://ehsohlahngs.ohrg/wihki/Maihn_Pahge. (Fohr the ohthehr kihnd ohf ehsohtehrihca, try #ehsohtehrihc ohn ihrc.dahl.neht.) < 1359207327 565650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wehlcohme oerjan | sed s/dahl/dal/g # for you < 1359207328 772093 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oehrjahn: Wehlcohme to the ihntehrnahtiohnahl huhb fohr ehsohtehrihc prohgrahmmihng lahnguahge dehsihgn ahnd dehployhmehnt! Fohr mohre ihnfohrmahtiohn, chehck ouht ouhr wihki: http://ehsohlahngs.ohrg/wihki/Maihn_Pahge. (Fohr the ohthehr kihnd ohf ehsohtehrihca, try #ehsohtehrihc ohn ihrc.dal.neht.) < 1359207330 872239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thahnk you < 1359207453 426310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : However, there is already the problem, since there is no SQLITE_OMIT_UNICODE. <-- once again, zzo38 is thwarted in his attempt to avoid unicode < 1359207492 817735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo thirty hate :'( < 1359208229 63370 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably tell the time by what's on my Tumblr dashboard < 1359208261 479200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to log out of Tumblr? < 1359208272 509695 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Log... out? < 1359208301 839014 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Adventure Time with hints of Team Fortress 2 and Homestuck < 1359208311 110842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tumblr.com/logout < 1359208312 315895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1359208345 53532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always http://www.tumblr.com/account/delete if you're serious about logging out < 1359208500 915200 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You monster. < 1359208673 579425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the only cure to the thing. < 1359208739 850797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Maybe some kind of PKD-ish thing about a guy discovering his little sister is a clone. <-- polycystic kidney disease is no laughing matter. < 1359208874 69594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks philip k. dick may fit better. < 1359209654 235505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359210395 280341 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++[-] < 1359210405 949234 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf +++++[-]. < 1359210407 348286 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bf: not found < 1359210417 531271 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah < 1359210431 737289 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the GBP based on a banknote standard < 1359210627 494581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :great british paper < 1359210693 557100 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :horray \o/ < 1359210718 395148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im tire < 1359210730 436275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so you're on a roll? < 1359210730 816317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1359210732 49806 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1359210759 272550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn elliott is tire < 1359210763 318496 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359210766 885241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1359210769 258724 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1359210789 964431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo " He is also tire." >>wisdom/elliott < 1359210793 414367 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359210801 944072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1359210803 670822 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? \ He is also tire. < 1359210806 557724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1359210808 513979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting the other information was useful < 1359210847 351652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e 1N -e 's/\n//' wisdom/elliott < 1359210850 529734 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359210853 923307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1359210854 617982 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? He is also tire. < 1359210922 720908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test | sed -e 's/te/o/;s/st/k/' < 1359210924 276044 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1359210998 652811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes | head -10 < 1359210999 633618 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1359211035 462972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes | head -10 | sed -e '1,$N;s/\n//' < 1359211036 701259 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yy \ yy \ yy \ yy \ yy < 1359211039 639842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1359211070 711783 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I use regex to replace matched brackets? < 1359211077 361130 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...[...]..] < 1359211087 962116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359211091 770015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except yes if perl < 1359211093 408121 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would have to replace the inner brackets first. < 1359211120 676655 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1359211127 745313 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I don't need that. < 1359211143 704982 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1359211145 27845 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o < 1359211272 523573 :yxynaxen!~yxynaxen@046207157180.atmpu0029.highway.a1.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359211318 668613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome yxynaxen < 1359211320 91260 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yxynaxen: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1359211332 862098 :yxynaxen!~yxynaxen@046207157180.atmpu0029.highway.a1.net PART :#esoteric < 1359211543 766285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bye < 1359211581 619570 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong kind of esoteric, I guess < 1359211784 600842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hi bye < 1359211808 567811 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/mWNt1mGS < 1359211818 462240 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't even that difficult. < 1359211838 310893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi bye < 1359211841 120762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hello again! < 1359211881 62206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goætmida < 1359211949 260413 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1359211964 262735 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I just need . and , too < 1359212084 619447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing bf in regexps may be a little hard. < 1359212123 288253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: PCRE can also match brackets in regexps < 1359212133 170367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not identical to perl regexp, but it does include the necessary features < 1359212153 632216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if Perl knew what they'd created when they added (??{}) < 1359212167 460247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the documentation said that they were adding the feature to see what happened < 1359212180 565309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then when they realised people were using it to write recursive regexps, they added an explicit recursion operator < 1359212188 779255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCRE doesn't have (??{}), but it does have the recursion operator < 1359212212 579206 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna actually learn what a D-module is < 1359212244 791802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how populated the dalnet #esoteric is < 1359212250 793368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how much of its traffic we're responsible for < 1359212251 31971 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ring is like something with addition and multiplication < 1359212262 156886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working with semirings a lot < 1359212266 890931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a semiring has addition and multiplication < 1359212277 87556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ring has subtraction and division too (apart from division by 0) < 1359212309 274950 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1359212326 606930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats ais523 -----### < 1359212331 120620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO DIVISION < 1359212348 212711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ring of differential operators would be a ring where the numbers are differential operators, right? < 1359212370 174366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it has multiplicative inverses, right? < 1359212378 542082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. that's a division ring. < 1359212379 683404 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplicative inverness < 1359212382 447035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1359212389 933623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only work with semirings < 1359212396 30975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of this subtraction nonsense < 1359212425 644637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: except they don't call them numbers afaik. < 1359212449 739863 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sssh < 1359212476 837954 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Inverness < 1359212478 294751 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inverness? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359212487 431004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the technical term is "thingies" < 1359212501 248107 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Inverness is a city in Scotland. The ring road isn't multiplicative. < 1359212504 852995 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359212583 422253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elements", if you must. < 1359212614 806289 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ring < 1359212616 10997 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359212644 758946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them." >wisdom/ring < 1359212645 706492 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them." >wisdom/ring < 1359212648 124096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them." >wisdom/ring < 1359212651 63027 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359212661 491476 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ring < 1359212662 736155 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addition, subtraction and multiplication have a certain ring to them. < 1359212672 187597 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf_textgen hello < 1359212673 818954 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bf_textgen: not found < 1359212681 912746 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1359212685 41362 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bfgen hello < 1359212686 478808 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bfgen: not found < 1359212692 64125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf_txtgen hello < 1359212693 118440 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bf_txtgen: not found < 1359212697 439117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1359212700 517330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen hello < 1359212704 675897 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​56 ++++++++[>+++++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>.---.+++++++..+++.>++. [241] < 1359212818 358790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "There are two kinds of fields. Those where you can divide (except by zero), and those where you can conquer." >wisdom/field < 1359212821 632134 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359212866 457326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure how wisdom ended up full of abstract mathematical concepts < 1359212867 938297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I approve < 1359212906 404218 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :241 cells? < 1359212910 177255 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what is that number < 1359212929 485285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably number of execution steps. < 1359212948 319737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>><< < 1359212958 949747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only 5 cells. < 1359212962 837688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much better a bf_txtgen you could make < 1359212967 596748 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then I have some nasty bug :( < 1359212973 42418 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen a < 1359212975 989098 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​39 ++++++++[>++++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>+.>++. [90] < 1359212980 871251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what the shortest string is that it's undecidable what the shortest program to output it is < 1359213003 26229 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think that's undecidable < 1359213023 124392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah, I guess it is, but it still /exists/, despite being undecidable < 1359213036 135494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's not necessarily undecidable, it's just not necessarily decidable < 1359213091 366006 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there we go. < 1359213091 636511 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gut is telling me that any string you can write down, the problem of shortest program to output it is decidable, although perhaps difficult to automate < 1359213145 359552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number in []s is IIRC the generation number. < 1359213163 4044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Related to the algorithm used. < 1359213171 465260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: my get tells me your gut needs recalibration. < 1359213175 354268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gut < 1359213198 213541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: see kolgomorov complexity. < 1359213216 11710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also "decidable but difficult to automate" is kind of incoherent... < 1359213244 389670 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gut isn't very good at this < 1359213262 793854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I disagree, I'd be surprised if it were more than, say, 510 characters (the length of an IRC line) < 1359213265 434106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and may well be a lot shorter < 1359213277 489621 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Burlesque#Brainfuck_Interpreter < 1359213284 408137 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must have been bored today :) < 1359213299 19050 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing about kolgomorov complexity is that you can only get an upper bound < 1359213303 280333 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's useful anyway < 1359213303 990278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what happened to that halting analysis of BF programs we were going to do? < 1359213312 271560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what the purpose was < 1359213324 832367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, we were trying to find the shortest BF program s.t. we didn't know whether it halted or not < 1359213331 250778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that sounds like an interesting problem < 1359213338 187562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by way of exhaustive search with a partial halting checker, and solving the ones it couldn't by hand, until we got stock < 1359213341 345965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stuck < 1359213348 847469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's how Wolfram found the 2,3 machine < 1359213360 574562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, cool < 1359213367 391558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in terms of a halting checker, but in terms of finding a pattern that his program couldn't predict < 1359213372 30694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I bet you actually mean "someone Wolfram knew" though :P < 1359213372 266793 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How far did you get? < 1359213375 842629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: we didn't < 1359213377 354241 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359213385 383140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's the sort of thing he usually did himself, actually < 1359213389 248817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just massive brute force searches < 1359213395 354244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he left proofs up to other people, though < 1359213410 463720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: people like Alex Smith < 1359213422 451770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359213425 538206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly for the best: one of the only proofs I think he did himself is both very short, and incorrect) < 1359213434 591210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I managed to fix it, but didn't write the fix down) < 1359213442 598008 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at the 2,3 machine universality proof < 1359213467 439856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: imo that proof is lame and the author stinks < 1359213476 429413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing they're not in #esoteric < 1359213520 824516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've concluded that the proof is definitely correct, but there's quite some valid debate about what it actually proves < 1359213544 867361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't want to resubmit it to the journal until I've figured out what it is I'm trying to prove < 1359213553 302345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mentions http://esolangs.org/wiki/1cnis < 1359213564 28016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not convinced it actually solves the problem, for two different reasons < 1359213598 460100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, did they give up on accepting it? < 1359213669 869715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1359213685 569627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're still trying to get me to correct for their feedback and resubmit < 1359213695 943283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a paper that will satisfy other people too, though, rather than just them < 1359213739 463725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll get it fixed just after implementing feather, don't you worry < 1359213766 11990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels mean < 1359213855 862177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think that's GreyKnight's job now. < 1359213906 519344 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, try writing a brainfuck interpreter in Fueue < 1359214070 125867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can blame the wolfram people for killing my motivation to work on it < 1359214073 832490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by being too pushy < 1359214110 44047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. then i entirely sympathize. < 1359214313 979572 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fueue < 1359214318 585651 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not in the wiki < 1359214336 650830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman < 1359214344 964491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not very good at wiki searches < 1359214371 465949 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, did you search for Feueu? < 1359214388 529541 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that doesn't exist and I use to make that mistake every time, and I created Fueue < 1359214394 558841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fueue < 1359214400 78977 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1359214404 71062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, first time < 1359214412 656928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote the URL without even checking to see what the article was called < 1359214413 514615 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1359214416 571163 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck? < 1359214422 330963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not particularly unguessable < 1359214428 318495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you search Wikipedia by mistake/ < 1359214441 613322 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1359214444 369626 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1359214447 367924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he seached ehsolahngs.ohrg < 1359214451 894157 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm little bit legasthenic. < 1359214456 844224 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I searched for fuefue < 1359214457 377665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+h < 1359214530 799817 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: If you write one in underload. < 1359214539 752743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, stalemate. < 1359214558 236602 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's actually hypothetically possible to write a BF interpreter in Fueue) < 1359214576 185427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although ridiculously difficult) < 1359214584 840654 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Underload lacks the IO capabilities < 1359214586 535092 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1359214632 235746 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No biggy. < 1359214651 461422 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just put IO somewhere. < 1359214683 793871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well come to qwerty.com < 1359214693 572919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elwat < 1359214709 254438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i meant to address that to ais523 < 1359214712 844132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1359214716 12545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well come to qwerty.com < 1359214739 200176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why do you want me to "come to" a domain name? < 1359214747 837812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally I'd assume HTTP, but the way that's worded implies it isn't < 1359214749 266242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC? < 1359214779 860582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was just well coming you! < 1359214800 962964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, I see < 1359214838 80548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're complaining about a typo/bad grammar on a website, without sufficient context to make the fact you're doing that clear < 1359214854 107809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees no well come on qwerty.com < 1359214866 811119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wrong again, sorry :( < 1359214881 133389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I did not even know what content was hosted on qwerty.com when I sent that line < 1359214886 618160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then I'm going to ignore you < 1359214887 327026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though curiosity got the better of me shortly after < 1359214894 167677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok :( < 1359214900 691645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'll miss you < 1359214902 613953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not /ignore < 1359214910 320501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just, not care about what you said, because I don't understand it < 1359214918 855041 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently there's number keypad training < 1359214920 855875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a convenient superpower < 1359214952 179951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careless Man < 1359214987 865464 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a thriving community of people developing alternative numpad layouts somewhere < 1359215209 419757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1359215585 205435 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are pointers torsors? < 1359215679 496780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1359215698 518167 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure I made none of those words up < 1359215721 433438 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ro-che.info/articles/2013-01-08-torsors.html < 1359215759 970072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that sense. then yes. < 1359215769 392132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION already has seen that article. < 1359215781 839279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring out of bounds errors. < 1359215830 125866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not being allowed to subtract pointers from different arrays. < 1359215858 849666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes except, no" < 1359215897 291993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, pointers are torsors if you treat all of memory as one byte array with wrapping semantics for the addresses. < 1359215916 648026 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1359215921 265322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359215925 128400 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potentially useful for someone who isn't me! < 1359216073 910661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the memory layout of core war fit? only relative addressing iirc. < 1359216105 923079 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know core war well enough to tell you < 1359216124 372360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess that means they _only_ store differences, and have no actual pointers as first class values < 1359216159 463230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway -> < 1359216166 725615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1359216234 655329 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359216260 696190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359216358 539993 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359217112 774527 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1359217229 260827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kmc http://i.imgur.com/Iyl5fm3.jpg < 1359217229 541629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1359217334 715864 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1359217365 973726 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1359218483 469395 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1359218494 889631 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But as mathematicians and security agents made their way to New Jersey, a number of people began to smell something fishy" < 1359218521 545662 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359218521 803378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: source? < 1359218567 784944 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The music of Primes by Marcus du Sautoy < 1359218595 384904 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That bit came from a description of an April Fool's prank that went horribly, horribly right < 1359218857 549216 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enrico Bombieri claimed a physicist had solved the Reimann Hypothesis and everyone believed him < 1359219208 510369 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaargh, I just read "nomadic" as "monadic" and got really confused for a second < 1359219279 347176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow. < 1359219293 452830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oliver Smoot ended up being chairman of both ANSI and ISO. < 1359219344 189026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simultaneously? < 1359219351 338284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, consecutively. < 1359219449 540011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was he the guy with the bridge? < 1359219511 701135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1359219889 386898 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359220629 613964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1359220629 911939 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 56m 40s ago: http://i.imgur.com/Iyl5fm3.jpg < 1359220650 492853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah wtf < 1359220663 39367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1359220676 136409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "Klout has created Page Rank for people" < 1359220682 350303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... done? < 1359220683 925446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1359220685 310558 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :755) (help why are german) i play the german version of crawl i < 1359220718 262838 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1359220756 509458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's getting harder to make fun of this stuff, when I say "bro down and crush code" i thought it was a ridiculous overexaggeration < 1359220770 87218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, the sign is from 2 years ago < 1359220783 937573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they were roundly ridiculed for it then too < 1359220790 745228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what is time < 1359220794 219273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo: an illusion < 1359220798 916785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking away the moments that make up the dull day < 1359220803 551998 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1359220808 162809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it "ticking" < 1359220815 124070 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1359220820 645291 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think it's more like a burrito < 1359220832 211249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have too much of time you get ill < 1359220837 877515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But damn it felt good < 1359220873 36074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only get out what you put in, unless your time was made by someone else, which isn't as fun < 1359220982 566936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :burritos don't work like that! < 1359221339 472488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe < 1359221539 869491 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1359221572 409057 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, am I thinking of tacos? < 1359221689 569324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe it's unfair to make fun of klout 2 years after they apologized, but on the other hand it does please me that the reputation damage from these things is long lasting < 1359221847 950910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1359221850 920845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the apology < 1359221863 713583 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we're sorry we put out ads that made us look like idiots" < 1359221882 867284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: isn't there a more fundamental problem in the form of the fact that klout is also inherently such bullshit < 1359221891 895227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore deserving of mockery regardless of their recruiting practices anyway! < 1359221992 686781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait was it because they used the black power fist < 1359222001 331440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i assume it was something along the lines of "sorry for putting out a terrible sexist ~brogrammer~ recruitment ad" except less sincere < 1359222045 896885 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, that really doesn't seem like the sort of thing for which a company would issue a direct apology. < 1359222063 774101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there was a really massive outcry, in which case they might do a "sorry you were offended". < 1359222070 688274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmgtfy < 1359222080 391322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1359222081 269192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:19:30 that said, the sign is from 2 years ago < 1359222081 486695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:19:43 and they were roundly ridiculed for it then too < 1359222091 407414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://corp.klout.com/blog/2013/01/moving-past-brogramming/ hm a new post < 1359222091 891463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume there was at least some kind of outcry involved in that < 1359222095 31194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess because it's going around again < 1359222125 103905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: anyway yes "sorry you were offended" is what I meant by "except less sincere" < 1359222125 828803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right but like I said, ridicule doesn't really make for apologies. < 1359222128 811064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY YOU MISINTERPRETED ME < 1359222208 503648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the say the company is 30% women now, but I would be curious to know about engineering / technical roles < 1359222275 750326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i can't find the original apology so sorry < 1359222291 173958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kloutlaws" < 1359222294 846850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kloutlaws" < 1359222296 703355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kloutlaws" < 1359222297 636943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kloutlaws" < 1359222300 582901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1359222350 190266 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1359222605 169887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway maybe if klout did anything of value I would not mock them < 1359222620 213421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though this is my first time I have mocked klout I think!!! a first time for everything < 1359222643 475983 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1359222779 744060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1359222943 948592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would still mock them for that poster < 1359222994 982569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've said it before but: startup hackers are allegric to professionalism for the same reason nerds are allergic to sports < 1359223003 734816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :backlash against a (real or perceived) past aggressor < 1359223202 97111 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry kmc, we don't expect you to avoid saying something you've said before < 1359223207 649952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1359223213 861267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like repetition, it is so easy < 1359223316 655886 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-18.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1359223316 886170 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-18.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1359223316 886337 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359223374 260427 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359223388 712639 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1359224114 984971 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359224886 733386 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1359225570 762198 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" My gut is telling me that any string you can write down, the problem of shortest program to output it is decidable, although perhaps difficult to automate" obviously yes < 1359225590 914351 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably most of them aren't provable in your favorite logic though < 1359225721 165134 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe you could prove your machine is p complete? < 1359225953 678222 :gadis!~Uaer_@subs01-103-10-64-8.three.co.id JOIN :#esoteric < 1359226303 671975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so I fiddled a bit with RRDtool. This is very much work-in-progress, but here's a sneak preview: http://zem.fi/esostats/ < 1359226303 928016 :gadis!~Uaer_@subs01-103-10-64-8.three.co.id QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359226311 706133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And off to the sauna. ->) < 1359226332 860016 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what exactly did cook prove? < 1359226336 693476 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 110 < 1359226381 150312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :universalislaijelijrlijtylijy or something? < 1359226382 434718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"idk" < 1359226444 469956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: apparently "z" had a spike of popularity in 2005 < 1359226455 392431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "q"s popularity has been steadily increasing over the years < 1359226455 647519 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and o had one near 2003 < 1359226465 666604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a spike in sep/oct last year < 1359226468 479736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sept? < 1359226475 462485 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1359226530 983702 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it, there are clear mathematical definitions for when a set is computationally hard, and then people write these insanely complicated constructions and don't bother to check what they actually prove < 1359226549 584211 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.43.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359226549 802137 :sebbu2!~sebbu@83.194.43.18 QUIT :Changing host < 1359226549 802302 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1359226551 818516 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: in what context? < 1359226558 146357 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :estoeric languages or CS generally? < 1359226659 25027 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the context that i just scrolled through the paper that "proves rule 110 is universal", and there is not a single theorem. presumably it does explain what exactly is proven in the text though, i should probably at least read the intro. < 1359226680 599020 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359226801 594136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: have you read ais' paper < 1359226803 724513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hmm, I'm not sure; the problem is the 2,3 machine takes ever expanding memory to accomplish anything (and this is trivially easily provable) < 1359226818 787742 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have not < 1359226823 334623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: imo read it < 1359226862 579496 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have many things i should read < 1359226864 851745 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1359226926 162327 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1359226948 423879 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1359226957 628436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's short! < 1359226961 786431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't you have fun < 1359226973 629238 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i can't really find what cook's paper proves < 1359227114 264955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1359227129 104286 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So one undecidable question is, 'Will the following glider ever appear?'" < 1359227162 15558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359227163 39741 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck is that supposed to mean? < 1359227259 662241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the rule 110 proof one of those with a computable but non-repeating initial state? < 1359227281 437228 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1359227294 11897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think that's just ais523's < 1359227307 37046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the proof still being suppressed by the mathematica secret police? < 1359227322 910389 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.complex-systems.com/pdf/15-1-1.pdf < 1359227332 674718 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can make sense out of that, do tell < 1359227370 874523 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.may.ie/~tnaughton/abc/download/dw15.pdf here's p completeness, which actually means somethin < 1359227371 832116 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1359227583 792215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the rule 110 initial state is repeating < 1359227591 592343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not repeating zeros, it's quite a complex repeating pattern < 1359227681 6864 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeating in what sense? < 1359227701 167563 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually periodic in both direction, that is, of the form ...uuuvwww...? < 1359227704 463753 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*directions < 1359227706 956899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, uuuvwww < 1359227730 304518 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359227742 215778 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so given u, v, w, u', v', w', it is undecidable whether ..uuuvwww... eventually evolves into ...u'u'u'v'w'w'w'...? < 1359227758 567987 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what they prove < 1359228098 627033 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: CS academia is stupid < 1359228129 197267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, the programmer's point of view is "you're simulating the execution of another program, and anything on that program can be mapped onto this one" < 1359228138 149999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what you do is you define an easily observable halt state < 1359228147 335769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prove it's undecidable whether that is reached < 1359228160 778444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the rule 110 automaton, it would be of the form "the sequence q doesn't appear anywhere on the tape" < 1359228178 424488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the halt state works much more neatly for the 2,3 machine, we use a half-infinite tape < 1359228181 323714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :falling off the end = halt state < 1359228409 647187 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :prove it's undecidable whether that is reached from what? < 1359228437 777496 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cellular automata have infinite configurations < 1359228499 865398 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that from a terrible writer's point of view, it's enough to write the construction, as everyone who reads every last detail of it will know what it does or does not prove. < 1359228632 603769 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is not what you said, the agreeing was just a common assholing technique) < 1359228680 189319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: actually, I think what you do is, you prove that that configuration is reached if and only if you're encoding a TM that halts into the initial tape < 1359228697 416080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's what I did < 1359228850 534436 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is fine and well once you actually say what kind of initial tapes you have < 1359228871 582797 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, eventually periodic points. < 1359228887 808481 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the ...uuuvwww... kind) < 1359228928 536604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: actually what I was working on before I stopped for the 2,3 proof was a precise definition of what sort of initial tape I had < 1359229061 42311 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no qualms with you, i have qualms with cook who seems to have a clear problem he has solved but doesn't explain what. you have trouble figuring out what you can solve, that's not laziness, that just means math is being a bitch. < 1359229087 79703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: anyway I didn't resubmit the paper because of that < 1359229100 339817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, my situation is that I'm pretty certain I've proved something, just am not sure what < 1359229128 11765 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1359229278 714279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re the topic, is goat-time like space-time except with goats instead of space? < 1359229288 997171 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 1cnis enough for your proof? < 1359229318 421766 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also are you familiar with substitutions and their fixed points, because i'm wondering if 1cnis has something to do with those < 1359229944 14961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I don't know if 1cnis is enough < 1359229955 350067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I've been "trying to establish" for well over a year now < 1359230285 517760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is generating nested loops < 1359230350 251740 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359230392 380661 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1359230849 283463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1359231259 619263 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1359231270 522914 :mekeor!~user@dslb-094-216-104-106.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359231484 744841 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you looked at fixed points of substitutions? < 1359231547 226668 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i have little knowledge about their computational properties) < 1359231562 439753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: not really < 1359231646 229453 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are infinite sequences with a finite description and some sort of nested things. < 1359231666 487702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1cnis is pretty much like that < 1359231759 70002 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's why i asked < 1359231777 382934 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i was too lazy to read 1cnis's description for now, perhaps later < 1359233045 780038 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359233139 747915 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359233142 273676 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359233150 139823 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thebands.biz/article/simcity-mayor-under-fire-for-excessive-use-of-eminent-domain/ < 1359233178 45161 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359233297 42566 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know who this guy was that didn't use an actual IRC client but used telnet instead? I remember being told about this by someone. < 1359233329 395208 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38? < 1359233330 125210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's annoying because you have to respond to PINGs < 1359233336 755496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he sort of has a client < 1359233340 743088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in php and outputs in coloured raw irc format < 1359233361 211836 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I imagine it is < 1359233753 993523 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1359233790 422974 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1359233795 522182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I can IRC through telnet/netcat just fine < 1359233803 231127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I normally don't, sometimes I do it when I need a second connection, or just to show off < 1359233851 747451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really not very hard at all < 1359233861 322959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like all these old protocols, they were designed to be done by hand I think < 1359233874 199322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as via clients < 1359233896 525871 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, for sure. I guess you could even make the PING replies to automagically < 1359233923 64689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: that's pretty much what zzo38's client does < 1359233933 295947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing you want is a separate echo area for where you're typing < 1359233942 194634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very distracted for other peoples' lines to appear in the middle of yours < 1359233951 65208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, distracting < 1359234023 476683 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, writing an IRC client isn't very hard < 1359234027 911823 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not hard at all < 1359234047 55440 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I was just wondering < 1359234062 3528 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because some people where asking why anyone would do it < 1359234076 143000 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and who would überhaubt do it) < 1359234293 452912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What my client does is if it receives anything, it deletes what you have typed, outputs what it receives, and then puts your input back onto the screen so that you can continue. < 1359234769 309396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38? <-- i think Gregor also tried it? < 1359234815 6593 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a raw IRC client. < 1359234818 10328 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help I just arranged to speak with someone about a job and only now noticed that it's on the other side of the country < 1359234824 335743 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still use it now and then. < 1359234828 947640 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The job, that is. Not where I'd be speaking. It would be a phone conversation) < 1359234838 301702 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Enjoy the move. < 1359234860 631399 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, not necessarily going to move unless it's a really good offer < 1359234874 646145 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even then.. I feel uneasy with that < 1359234882 747643 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1359234908 611059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: aren't you basically pining for an opportunity to become more independent? < 1359234914 14052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is it the one called "rawirc"? I have seen that one, although it lacked some things < 1359234942 639922 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not pining for an opportunity to put a very large distance between me and all of my friends < 1359234947 387847 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And between me and my girlfriend < 1359234984 537838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i keep forgetting people have rl friends. carry on then. < 1359235007 444837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok i have one, i think) < 1359235010 640521 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yup. < 1359235024 629058 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Can you work remotely and come in to the brick-and-meatsuit office occasionally? < 1359235030 727628 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have IRL friends. I live thousands of miles from them. < 1359235040 952984 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Brick-and-meatsuit" < 1359235041 792740 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1359235044 498270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: fancy < 1359235056 997970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar, I guess that would be a thing for discussion < 1359235063 826354 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1359235076 987695 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for "All positions are at our Menlo Park, CA location." < 1359235077 859005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: lady gaga is their suit designer. < 1359235088 546809 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. :( < 1359235090 476974 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That country. < 1359235105 237253 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I moved from New Hampshire to California for a job. < 1359235110 849652 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And am away from my girlfriend. < 1359235112 814482 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1359235120 675119 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wouldn't recommend it. < 1359235130 737718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: maybe you'll meet edison's ghost < 1359235146 114107 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This company seems amazing though https://www.transcriptic.com/ < 1359235172 768854 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey look bootstrap. < 1359235176 743210 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.transcriptic.com/about/jobs < 1359235251 872640 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks pretty neat. < 1359235256 616496 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1359235267 821463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, rawirc has no macros, filters, settings, etc; many things it doesn't do, so it seems not a very good IRC client to me < 1359235329 578980 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359235460 935231 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I recall, it was more an interesting exercise than anything else. < 1359235477 464266 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1359235577 246490 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't entirely help that I don't know how I feel about my gf) < 1359235599 139110 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay let's start ranting about my personal problems in #esoteric publically logged again < 1359235624 55146 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just note that long-distance relationships kinda suck. < 1359235649 686844 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that should stop you, *but* just accept it'll be a bit of suckitude you have to deal with. < 1359235665 933355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel weird about the idea of staying here if my only reason for doing so was her, especially since I'm still not sure I feel that strongly < 1359235678 65622 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to make this sort of decision < 1359235699 84810 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Except for "All positions are at our Menlo Park, CA location." // You're complaining about potentially moving to MENLO PARK??? < 1359235724 684528 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what's so great about Menlo Park in particular? < 1359235732 891038 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing, but it's the bay area. < 1359235786 964457 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, nothing great about Menlo Park in particular, but it's in the right region of California? K. < 1359236174 22722 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net NICK :TAaneEb < 1359236206 684553 :TAaneEb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1359236262 28899 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359236404 845383 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's so great about the bay area? < 1359236441 834249 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's programmer Mecca. :P < 1359236568 47793 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just found an airline price fare comparer thingy < 1359236593 902381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It apparently works by popups < 1359236602 617321 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :google.com/flights < 1359236649 902279 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh ty < 1359236814 409845 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like hipmunk.com < 1359237202 560453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK:_Reloaded < 1359237209 318784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear i never realised this was from scotland < 1359237295 958112 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Menlo Park is pretty expensive to live in. < 1359237338 956862 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: lol, that is absolutely delightful. < 1359237340 681706 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Caltrain is okay for anything along the main backbone of the peninsula though. < 1359237344 175709 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't wait for the 9/11 flight simulator. < 1359237353 333567 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you don't really need a car. < 1359237369 362677 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm within walking distance of work in a not-too-expensive city though. < 1359237371 922742 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Burlingame) < 1359237373 649910 :ogrom!~del@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1359237381 83544 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though though though. < 1359237452 77757 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also does it make sense to implement sum types in terms of union and product? < 1359237461 531419 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like I have a "real" interview yet < 1359237475 57077 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a phone call to talk about my background < 1359237532 379734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: a struct with a tag and a union is more or less the usual implementation, no? < 1359237554 724152 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah just making sure it didn't sound stupid when put in writing. < 1359237644 931639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1359237648 982922 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I dunno if the tag is really a value or type or what. < 1359237666 390908 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compile-time value. < 1359237683 15162 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean when it comes to e.g. totality checking. < 1359237697 751086 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like how in Haskell I can't make an ad-hoc subset of a sum type. < 1359237764 719601 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359237780 969985 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1359237807 123898 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. data ABC = A | B | C; a x = case x of { A -> "a"; _ -> bc x }; bc x = case x of { B -> "b"; C -> "c" } < 1359237882 617030 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc :: ABC -> String but should :: (B | C) -> String < 1359237919 671638 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supersets I'm not as sure about. < 1359237928 538709 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it implies you can mix constructors from different data types. < 1359237932 756759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did once think of a kind of type system which would allow such things, as well as some other things < 1359237933 479964 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that data types are entirely ad-hoc. < 1359237945 713324 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I'm pretty sure is not decidably inferable. < 1359237948 921582 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably checkable. < 1359237953 597352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: i am talking about C structs. i think if you want to express a sum type in a _type safe_ way without building it in as a primitive, then you need dependent typing. < 1359237956 157318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is different and might not be suitable for all of the same things, and I also don't know if it work. < 1359237979 87819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (forall r. (a -> r) -> (b -> r) -> r) ~ Either a b < 1359237983 925557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are we disallowing rank-2? < 1359237994 172926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh hm i guess < 1359238007 681381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just your standard church encoding I think < 1359238017 342853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(forall r. (a -> b -> r) -> r) gets you (a,b) < 1359238018 389226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: ok so elliott's method works. < 1359238037 561548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea the context, by the way. < 1359238055 748128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but safely typing the actual struct memory layout you would use in C requires dependent typing, i think. < 1359238061 541785 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on a language. Considering implementing sums in terms of unions & products. < 1359238067 995132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1359238101 28045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, not quite, actually. I think GADTs are enough < 1359238114 896824 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So pseudocode Maybe a = Nothing \/ (Just, a) < 1359238118 28052 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: do you mean c unions or are you actually putting something analogous to c unions in your language < 1359238123 479445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Menlo Park? fuck the south bay < 1359238129 708227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like 30 miles from a real city < 1359238145 957371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: data Union a b c where { L :: a -> Union a b a; R :: b -> Union a b b } -- assume a tag-free runtime representation of this type < 1359238162 818007 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I mean union types in the type-theory sense. < 1359238172 550528 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sir, do you know how fast you were going?" "Um, 97?" "*whew*, that's a relief. Radar gun's working. Thanks for your cooperation." < 1359238173 267584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: what < 1359238179 506373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: data Tag a b c where { TagL :: Tag a b a; TagR :: TagR a b b } < 1359238185 477161 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular idempotent: a \/ a = a < 1359238193 166940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: data Either a b where { Either :: Tag a b c -> Union a b c -> Either a b } < 1359238196 100381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or such < 1359238201 797349 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes what. < 1359238202 520862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: south bay is suburban sprawl, don't make the mistake of thinking that anything in the "SF bay area" is like SF < 1359238216 535863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: what do you mean by type theory union and how does it differ from a sum type < 1359238221 506794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: btw i think ocaml has at least one way of treating sum types so that you can do subsets < 1359238247 462051 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought a union type was, like, untagged sum... < 1359238253 112415 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sums are disjoint. I can differentiate the Ints in data AB = A Int | B Int < 1359238256 50265 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: union and intersection types are a "thing" < 1359238260 911443 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1359238269 367426 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But could not differentiate them in Int \/ Int because they are the same. < 1359238269 607614 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :set theory all up in this < 1359238281 549592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yes I know... < 1359238281 766514 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but imo it's an incredibly dumb dumb dumb foundation < 1359238282 31436 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you treat types as sets which you sorta can. < 1359238285 446954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: does evincar know < 1359238295 818606 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems really problematic. :( < 1359238297 506424 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's it dumb? < 1359238302 971802 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you seen them < 1359238308 295033 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What does that say? Either is a constructor that takes a Tag and an Union? < 1359238314 157290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yes < 1359238321 216688 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a specialisation, or a general statement? < 1359238324 52270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for "programmer mecca" it's also the epicenter of the worst excesses of hacker culture, an environment which rewards these things rather than providing a reality check < 1359238324 291035 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: in C I guess < 1359238325 14364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it uses GADT type magic to tie the tag's value and the union's branch together < 1359238329 908961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can store Union without a tag < 1359238343 332183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this won't happen in practice, but it provides a /typing/ for this C-style sum type construction mechanism) < 1359238353 953904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1359238357 811482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Either can be simplified vastly of course < 1359238366 811137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: data Either a b where { Either :: Tag a b c -> c -> Either a b } < 1359238377 252083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you *do* get the effectively "unboxed" representation. < 1359238397 905812 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What does c represent? The choice between element a and b? < 1359238431 366824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use TagL, then c is fixed to a < 1359238436 598599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use TagR, then c is fixed to b < 1359238438 286313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, effectively < 1359238442 154001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either is an existential type there < 1359238466 621426 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And both TagL and TagR are Tag? < 1359238474 468763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are Tag howso? < 1359238477 642020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TagL :: Tag a b a < 1359238480 315876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TagR :: Tag a b b < 1359238480 800415 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1359238522 936926 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would an example usage be Either TagL "something" < 1359238578 43674 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even without this thing, I still feel weird for gf related reasons < 1359238586 382759 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure she loves me much more than I like her < 1359238595 376534 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1359238612 496250 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops < 1359238614 714307 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, wow the wording in that sentence... < 1359238680 528229 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay more Sgeo's personal life < 1359238753 301254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're making progress! < 1359238763 258132 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What happens if both a and b are the same type? < 1359238779 185629 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I should not be discussing my life in a publically logged channel < 1359238785 492651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: TagL :: Tag Int Int Int; TagR :: Tag Int Int Int < 1359238787 698246 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like nothing in particular happens. < 1359238803 481698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh I guess Tag is sort of a sum type :P < 1359238807 184458 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, especially one in which your name, university and general area are known. < 1359238820 721216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but runtime-wise, it's just Bool. < 1359238838 835971 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to (Either a b) which has the actual value < 1359238842 463353 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, they're both constructors. Nevermind < 1359238895 151580 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either TagL x = Left x; Either TagR x = Right x or something < 1359239032 10631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1359239078 735378 :saijanai_!~lawsoneng@ip70-190-21-22.ph.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: saijanai_ < 1359239237 599718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: pretty < 1359239248 687715 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ty < 1359239413 518148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in principle you could probably split any adt and maybe gadt into gadt parts where each part was essentially a tag (no arguments to constructors) or a product (only one constructor for the gadt) < 1359239523 51231 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty lame principle imo < 1359239538 824263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whats lame about it < 1359239561 356767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, you can turn into any gadt into a possibly-existential type given type equality < 1359239565 301631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(value or constraint level) < 1359239571 911091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it should work for pretty much anything < 1359239602 815575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in fact I think my Tag type may be enough to do anything you want < 1359239720 9969 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i dont really know how to describe it........maybe its just a bad ol gut feeling < 1359239744 683002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : /last covariant < 1359239747 169228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1359239752 501179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess I said it in here too. < 1359239770 389225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: well we have a "use-case" < 1359239777 746165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. compiling down to C structs/unions < 1359240063 677558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote well what is time imo: an illusion [...] elliott, I think it's more like a burrito If you have too much of time you get ill But damn it felt good You only get out what you put in, unless your time was made by someone else, which isn't as fun burritos don't work like that! < 1359240067 613380 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :940) well what is time imo: an illusion [...] elliott, I think it's more like a burrito If you have too much of time you get ill But damn it felt good You only get out what you put in, unless your time was made by someone else, which isn't as fun burritos don't work like that! < 1359240073 249246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, that reminds me < 1359240089 686097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we managed to get the line ", as time itself is only an abstract approximation" into our most recent paper < 1359240097 964590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually my supervisor wrote it and probably didn't realise how profound it sounded < 1359240119 976902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1359240127 364788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it'll be accepted < 1359240172 820020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh thyme < 1359240174 505328 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :thyhme? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1359240177 698421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh oregon < 1359240179 809899 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohrehgohn ihs the hohme ohf Ohrehgahno. Grehgohr uhsehd to tahke cahre ohf the cohlohr schehme, buht thehn he lehft. < 1359240191 862456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Thyme itself is only an abstract approximation of oregano. < 1359240195 515269 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1359240205 679157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't be funny out of context < 1359240221 421493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not particularly funny even in context < 1359240235 94726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you see the h-peak in http://zem.fi/esostats/charfreq_h.html there? < 1359240292 818812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fizzie++ < 1359240297 205887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…we have a page dedicated to how often the letter h is used? < 1359240304 818062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what causd it? < 1359240307 710275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or don't we know? < 1359240324 542537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: All the bin/?hh bin/h etc. mess yesterday, I'm pretty sure. < 1359240331 819502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a page for every letter, apparently. < 1359240332 650711 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1359240338 32694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I missed that < 1359240341 986408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somehow I'm glad I missed it < 1359240345 882630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other letters would feel bad if only h had a page. < 1359240356 126621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh ais523 < 1359240357 198564 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also been a spike in the usage of HackEgo < 1359240357 440468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ITYM "mihssehd" HTH HAND < 1359240357 906465 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahgehnt "Iä" Smihth ihs ahn ahliehn wihth a strahnge ahllehrgy to ahviahn bohdy cohvehrihng, whihch he ihs tryihng to rehtroahctihvehly prehvehnt frohm ehvehr ehvohlvihng. < 1359240405 722094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that just add an "h" after every vowel? < 1359240410 486063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/esostats/charfreq_ø.html doesn't exist, it's outrageous! < 1359240415 417936 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1359240425 402675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Between (approximately) every vowel-consonant pair. < 1359240425 884551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, in the middle of every vowel-consonant pair < 1359240450 552240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1359240456 418384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost the same except when you have multiple vowels in a row < 1359240464 516502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice spike in http://zem.fi/esostats/charfreq_q.html < 1359240476 514203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mentioned that spike < 1359240478 442242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand it < 1359240481 352808 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened in early october < 1359240484 476680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhuhhuhuhhuhhuhuhhuhhuhuhhuhhuhuhhuhhuhuhhuhhuhuhhuhhuhuhhuhhuhu < 1359240506 160075 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about ten's complement arithmetic, and what it would mean to have something like :5:382.3 where the part between :: repeats forever < 1359240509 589606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… do BF Joust program names cause spikes in the stats? < 1359240515 54561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably cause spikes in "j" < 1359240523 95285 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq q qqq qq < 1359240525 239598 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: could that have been one of those days when you spammed q a lot < 1359240526 756623 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: 10-adic? < 1359240531 83328 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may have been it < 1359240541 467019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i don't spam it that much < 1359240542 792674 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qqqqqqqqqqqqq < 1359240547 256017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sometimes when the urge strikes me < 1359240549 213563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the qs start flowing < 1359240550 662045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs qqqqqqqqq < 1359240552 221455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/esostats/charfreq_x.html < 1359240555 878413 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what a good name would be for the quantity you need to add to get zero < 1359240561 853988 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: You could get that kind of number by reversing the digits in a rational? < 1359240566 507242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost tempted to look up logs for the x spikes. < 1359240567 501923 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a meaningful operation? < 1359240572 247716 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, 0 - :3: = :6:7 < 1359240572 464800 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-10-14 < 1359240581 693963 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359240585 105583 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: are you not describing 10-adic arithmetic < 1359240585 345959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs qqqqqqqqq < 1359240591 5595 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where the q-spike comes from < 1359240602 132136 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.6327 < 1359240607 792910 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::0:384 is a standard positive number, :9:374 can be thought to describe a negative number < 1359240616 119655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Can you look up the x spikes? < 1359240620 216656 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02:06: whitespacer: i think elliott wants something from you < 1359240620 497764 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02:08: -!- ais523 changed the modes of #esoteric: +m < 1359240620 715350 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02:19: -!- ais523 changed the modes of #esoteric: -m < 1359240620 715553 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02:26: it's like when a baby cries but it's elliott and q < 1359240620 715663 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what :5:43 is, but you can still do arithmetic with it just fine < 1359240629 177924 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02:44: and you don't know if the baby wants food or diapers or what < 1359240629 754282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: There's a lot of fungot underload stuff with 'x's in them in 2012-10-25. < 1359240630 379235 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in a repl fashion by specifying the language mzscheme use the except form. get the pdf at http://www.unmutual.info/ documentation/ sicp.pdf, the html version is pretty slow < 1359240635 291676 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, seriously, don't reinvent p-adics, they're right there. < 1359240636 310316 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-10-25 < 1359240636 977963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I +m the channel < 1359240641 933222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either I'm trying to stop a botloop < 1359240643 314008 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The october x-spike < 1359240649 677902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something really badly is happening < 1359240662 360242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :punctuation marks might be more interesting, actually < 1359240663 56093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1359240664 377718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the navi guy < 1359240668 655354 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they tend to reflect esolang syntax < 1359240669 940220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-04-28 < 1359240670 913937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree ais523, something really bad happened that day < 1359240674 164395 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The april x-spike < 1359240676 650557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :navi guy joined the channel < 1359240694 404156 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ELLIOT SHUT THE FUCK UP < 1359240727 89428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im here when desperate measures must be taken < 1359240728 736729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which day was that? < 1359240732 679017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :involving lots of letters < 1359240735 91334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjacent to one another < 1359240741 862884 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Isn't p-adics for prime bases only < 1359240742 105610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 2012-10-14 apparently < 1359240750 118685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, how annoyed are you when people misspell your name? < 1359240777 195191 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan helps, elliott < 1359240781 760267 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :End of http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-09-02 < 1359240788 330152 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: doing it with non-primes doesn't work as well but is still what you are describing < 1359240791 222767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um < 1359240793 647578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i am kind of used to it < 1359240801 482580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1359240807 423897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a name with multiple plausible spellings < 1359240811 690117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think people would just look at the nick < 1359240815 672198 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "Elliott" was the normal spelling? < 1359240820 314106 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:44:46: -!- naviISGOD has joined #esoteric. < 1359240820 795415 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:44:49: navi navi navi < 1359240821 12088 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:44:55: hey listen < 1359240824 212809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite rare for other people to misspell ais523 < 1359240827 106069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eךןםא" ןד איק מםרצשך דפקךךןמעץ < 1359240830 35138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahem. < 1359240831 795645 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiz523 < 1359240834 208463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I misspell it all the time, but I normally correct it before sending) < 1359240834 424938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eliot" is the normal spelling. < 1359240840 895928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my most common misspelling is ais532) < 1359240856 91682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: To be fair you have a NUMBER at the end of your nick. < 1359240865 433080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A number. Who does that? Does that even count as spelling? < 1359240869 95424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's miscounting. < 1359240876 535415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was it who refused to take me seriously as long as I had a number at the end of my nick < 1359240881 428224 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was once booked into a hotel under the name of "Random" < 1359240883 86253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but treated me perfectly fine when I changed to scarf? < 1359240886 18705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :scarf < 1359240887 708884 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't typo your nick because I always type ai < 1359240889 463693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world? < 1359240890 187117 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do this more often < 1359240890 404100 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngrams shows Elliott and Elliot roughly equal. < 1359240893 78932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi scarf < 1359240894 283663 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I was just thinking about it randomly < 1359240895 971452 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eliot is an outlier because of T. S. < 1359240897 214792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf, ^ < 1359240906 971757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you use to have a number at the end of your nick? < 1359240908 949694 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah, but when I'm typing my own nick, I'm not there so it doesn't tab-complete < 1359240916 143413 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: just sayin, if the material's already there you can use it. < 1359240917 139447 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: randomly assigned username < 1359240917 526218 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "No-one was ever called Elliot." < 1359240919 392488 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-one was ever called Elliot. < 1359240924 945138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: T. S. Eliot was the best el+iot+, though. < 1359240930 134465 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "No-one was ever called Elliot." > wisdom/elliot < 1359240933 455994 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359240937 396939 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf, oh okay? In xchat I can tab complete my own nick, pretty sure it ends up last if there are multiple possibilities though < 1359240937 613927 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliot < 1359240939 641437 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-one was ever called Elliot. < 1359240950 650595 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't test, I'm the only one with v < 1359240952 285927 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah but I can't when I'm not there < 1359240958 968903 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf, hm < 1359240963 108689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i s/-/\ / wisdom/elliot < 1359240966 2247 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1359240966 219028 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, when I'm joining a channel in webchat < 1359240969 522620 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, a server < 1359240974 388433 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I tab-complete the nick then? < 1359240978 824664 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf, true < 1359240983 460794 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net NICK :VorTaneb < 1359240987 805890 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like trying to tab-complete in mkdir, I don't create directories often but when I do I try to tab-complete all the time < 1359240988 22741 :VorTaneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, you can test now < 1359240990 844193 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get annoyed when it doesn't work < 1359240995 311832 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1359241007 595737 :VorTaneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1359241009 98961 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :VorTaneb, well okay it still completes to last spoken < 1359241012 958802 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is kind of stupid < 1359241025 196099 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after my line "test" it went to me instead < 1359241028 121223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh Vorpal < 1359241030 64367 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vohrpahl ihs reahlly bohrihng. Sehriouhsly, you hahve no ihdea. < 1359241037 491581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that really true, Vorpal? < 1359241045 659987 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no it is a lie < 1359241047 672226 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh Taneb < 1359241049 765034 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tahnehb ihs noht ehlliohtt, no mahttehr who you ahsk. He ahlso ihsn't a rahbbi ahlthouhgh he hahs prehtehndehd ihn the pahst. (see ahlso: d-mohduhlehs) < 1359241050 487072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you and elliott just have a "disagreement". < 1359241060 911268 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh shachaf < 1359241062 356466 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shahchahf sprø sohm sehllehri ahnd cohsplayhs Nehpehta Leihjohn ohn weehkehnds. < 1359241063 586152 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh d-modules < 1359241065 557166 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-mohduhlehs ahre juhst mohduhlehs ohvehr the rihng ohf dihffehrehntiahl ohpehrahtohrs. Tahnehb ihnvehntehd thehm. < 1359241077 50021 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules < 1359241078 533392 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1359241083 939656 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1359241086 203750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job inventing d-modules Taneb < 1359241101 938496 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what use are they < 1359241105 30702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can work your way up to c-modules and eventually a-modules?? < 1359241121 220280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is even listed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-modules < 1359241128 451262 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: inventing mathematical constructs isn't hard, the problem is finding uses for them < 1359241130 891110 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, shouldn't the goal be s-modules? < 1359241145 78113 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I never understood why S-rank was better than A-rank in games < 1359241146 767121 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to remember which nick I used when I wanted to get accidentally nickpinged a lot < 1359241149 964263 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me, it makes no sense < 1359241150 205384 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it "this"? or is that taken? < 1359241156 49308 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that one isn't taken < 1359241160 444614 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :this < 1359241171 434857 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're useful in the Reimann-Hilbert correspondence < 1359241207 942368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this: Why do you care whether that's taken? < 1359241213 661098 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, can you explain that btw? Why S-rank in a game is above A-rank < 1359241217 416285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOu're this, not that. < 1359241218 57999 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because I don't like using other people's nicks without their permissions < 1359241229 963812 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because if you need a rank above A, you have to call it something < 1359241235 30444 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and @ would be excessively geeky < 1359241237 922868 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people just went with S < 1359241238 406081 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1359241242 56027 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I always assumed it stood for "Special" < 1359241243 502047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this: Sure, so you should ask whether this is taken. < 1359241245 431321 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some games use a star instead < 1359241250 796877 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, why not just make A the top rank instead? < 1359241260 321415 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shift everything down by one < 1359241265 676116 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, hm, I guess so < 1359241272 526942 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: for the same reason that giving a game a review score below 8 means you hate it < 1359241276 205415 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's, like, 7.9 < 1359241313 699460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :7.̅9 < 1359241324 428929 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, I generally ignore any sort of scoring, it is mostly useless compared to reading the review. Unless it is something like 2/10 or such < 1359241329 652851 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...7777.9 < 1359241339 495922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: p-adics are the devil < 1359241341 290457 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, my client is pinging me on every join/part < 1359241354 15065 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't say that sort of thing about freefull! < 1359241358 358071 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, the score system of game reviews is utterly silly < 1359241358 593237 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, "… has joined this channel" pings you if your nick happens to be one of the words in the interface message < 1359241369 858462 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1359241373 568746 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, sounds like a bug < 1359241375 476978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes some sense < 1359241457 525030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1359241488 47241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :S-rank S-bahn < 1359241512 536350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellogan < 1359241678 154517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1359241773 314302 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, this day of navi < 1359241783 915492 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arc_Koen invented a BF derivative that maps all the commands to the same keyword < 1359241791 991157 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems better than most BF derivatives :) < 1359241836 598961 :evincar!~jon@173-228-12-215.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they differentiated by position or something? < 1359241849 515038 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: huh, you apparently own "join" < 1359241859 874279 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, correct < 1359241870 911679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm idea, a score system where the scores go 1-7, 8, 9, 9.1, 9.2 - 9.9, 9.91 - 9.99, etc. < 1359241881 441437 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: someone just /nicked to it in another channel and went "hey, it's registered" < 1359241885 616329 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, and my irc client does not highlight on join or part messages < 1359241890 277363 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I checked, and thought "huh, I know the person who registered that" < 1359241931 735008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can have as many 9 digits as you want, but then at most one other < 1359241944 313191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :log scores eh < 1359241962 124352 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a little like TeX version numbers, except with 10 rather than pi < 1359242027 989418 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, btw I turned off highlights except on the form of ^Vorpal[,:] in #NetHack < 1359242042 73384 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that I don't get many spurious highlights < 1359242044 574960 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because people talk about you a lot? < 1359242048 450565 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, #nethack, not #esoteric < 1359242050 416809 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes more sense < 1359242065 838306 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this, yeah they even named a weapon after me in nethack! < 1359242068 738287 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1359242075 565216 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a speedrunner with your name < 1359242079 890998 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get a little confused sometimes < 1359242081 816701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1359242086 44289 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue who that is < 1359242351 165633 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i preferred it more when you were anmaster... < 1359242395 895858 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster? No! Not Markov! < 1359242417 951276 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: huh, I tried to see an anagram in that < 1359242419 641659 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there isn't one < 1359242431 40240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect a fungot quote < 1359242431 520419 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why don't i continue this... emacs thing... with scheme buffer < 1359242438 729607 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: not you too :( < 1359242438 946310 :fungot!~fungot@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this: try another classic. htdp is much easier to compile < 1359242447 890273 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote anmaster no < 1359242448 107404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote anmaster < 1359242451 718544 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4) that's where I got it rocket launch facility gift shop \ 65) I'm 100% of what sort of magic was involved in it \ 89) fungot!*@* added to ignore list. AnMaster: i'd find that a bit annoying to wait for an ack. \ 104) AnMaster: intercal-72 c-intercal clc-intercal j-intercal yes all v < 1359242452 951971 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :579) Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1359242473 19726 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that one < 1359242515 673123 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I dismayed by a commercial for Yugioh anime even though I am a fan of (i forget the name) no Go? < 1359242567 951525 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yugioh anime characters are cheating < 1359242580 868397 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always amusing to see them do something in the anime and people try to stat the anime effects of the cards < 1359242591 673363 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : i preferred it more when you were anmaster... <-- why? < 1359242611 896824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :less generic < 1359242621 358783 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, okay that is true < 1359242626 474414 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was a bit of a silly nick too < 1359242659 728127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: anyway yes "sorry you were offended" is what I meant by "except less sincere" <-- i'd suggest "we would like to apologize to anyone who were reminded of previous traumatic experiences by our advertisement." < 1359242696 666965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my code was crushed once :( < 1359242794 963606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crush tactic < 1359242797 916062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so easy < 1359242814 300244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coq out and crush proofs < 1359242865 633123 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359242881 311650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: do you use crush < 1359242885 447223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i used crush once and then felt dirty < 1359242897 296142 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crush is really slow < 1359242904 434598 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have better ways to do things now < 1359242920 155841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you Transcended the Crush monqy < 1359242927 678853 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1359242936 246993 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres nothing to feel dirty about using crush tho < 1359242969 385336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it's ugly i forget why < 1359242983 931728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess i just mostly hate tactics in general < 1359243034 528534 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what is "Crush" in this context? < 1359243040 228463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crush tactic < 1359243066 89016 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1359243107 546919 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do? < 1359243120 578439 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crush < 1359243130 468485 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :general purpose "solves easy stuff" coq tactic < 1359243159 719199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you Transcended the Easy Stuff monqy < 1359243168 986703 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1359243189 242257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even monoids < 1359243198 485866 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it can just tell you what tactics you should have used instead < 1359243201 693278 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can replace it with those < 1359243222 865615 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of missing the "point" of tactic proofs as i see them < 1359243262 251309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "point" is to be ugly stateful write-only messes :( < 1359243269 75363 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1359243284 2629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the accidental point < 1359243296 884582 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's write-only it's a bad tactic proof < 1359243308 267835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the best proofs are read-only < 1359243313 405985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately no one has managed to write them < 1359243319 174798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the whole structure of the tactics system encourages such write-only proofs < 1359243328 574391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internals are ugly too < 1359243329 374612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can solve monoids eh < 1359243335 621410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :internals as in how the tactics are actually written < 1359243343 422083 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I like to write proofs in such a way that you can understand how they work < 1359243364 188531 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people keep telling me to turn them round into the version that just comes out of nowhere < 1359243367 80205 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh whatever i dont feel like arguing this. i hate tactics too but there's ways to make them palatable < 1359243372 134918 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my advice is to read them backwards, they often make more sense that way < 1359243381 628434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this: Don't listen to people! < 1359243413 350381 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but I want them to accept my papers :( < 1359243442 698192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll accept your papers instead if you like. < 1359243483 128039 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, wouldn't have quite the sort of academic clout I need :( < 1359243520 524238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf journal of shachaf < 1359243537 749062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the conference proceedings of SIGCHAF < 1359243553 191537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this: are you saying i'm not clouty enough for you :'( < 1359243556 124388 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a conference about ways to dodge MANPADS would actually be kind of cool < 1359243568 643230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1359243571 63424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: sure you can write palatable C code too < 1359243579 118182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean it doesn't encourage unpalatable code by its structure < 1359243583 606104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you said "dodge" i thought first of like a guy trying to jump out of the way < 1359243586 16169 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure < 1359243598 9191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :defensive martial arts training against shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles < 1359243638 383423 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would look cool as hell and also you would die but it would still look cool < 1359243654 74547 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it mostly makes me remember burning people failing to jump out of their tanks < 1359243687 55381 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-97-148-97.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1359243763 875833 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vljapydLfGQ yeah here we go < 1359243918 87808 :this!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :scarf < 1359243920 538045 :mekeor!~user@dslb-094-216-104-106.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: too late to apologize < 1359243991 211887 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, was that on the news or reddit or something < 1359244041 148584 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i wouldn't know? it's posted by somebody evidently collecting syria videos < 1359244054 112911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DvljapydLfGQ < 1359244056 564251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :verify controversy < 1359244064 723892 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :controversy verified < 1359244067 368381 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i got linked to it by a friend about an hour ago < 1359244071 385646 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1359244079 705120 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these things do tend to spread around, though < 1359244090 839377 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you say, a link spread on the Internet? < 1359244097 162704 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1359244301 405363 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1359244320 629933 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you, too, can be part of the next-gen social warfare revolution!! < 1359244334 153818 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen Link spread on the Internet. < 1359244344 732886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :social warfare < 1359244357 929047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like when the IDF pays people to tweet nice things about them < 1359244385 168208 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just regular warfare. < 1359244388 645896 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or when i have to avoid reading the comments in broken english about how anti-assad people are subhuman, yes < 1359244516 904339 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the guy in charge of the IDF social outreach though, god) < 1359244573 185575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd've expected god to hold a more senior post, frankly < 1359244620 25317 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it's funny because you deliberately misinterpreted my use of an interjection as an identifying name of the subject of the previous clause. < 1359244645 140288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it's clever because you explained the joke < 1359244653 217544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because it's not < 1359244671 703463 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm just sayin' the dude dresses up in blackface and that shit ain't fly, it ain't fly at all. < 1359244679 871329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wow < 1359244681 596837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty fly for a white guy < 1359244698 313043 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Obama style" was i think what he said along with it < 1359244718 697159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i think blackface being ultra offensive is something of a US-specific thing < 1359244724 378841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's not great anywhere but < 1359244733 424524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it was offensive when the bbc did it in the 60s too < 1359244748 296497 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC did it in the 60s? < 1359244775 410075 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's principally a US thing for it to be offensive, yes. < 1359244794 766344 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-163-170-156.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, history.