< 1361836916 211318 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361836922 386775 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361836943 146970 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361837227 204949 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361838601 196751 :kiwi_93423!~kiwi_9342@108-171-179-235.static.cloud-ips.com QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand-crafted IRC client < 1361838668 706047 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1361839213 754789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361841711 952986 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> y u no support data < 1361841713 414150 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:16: parse error on input `data' < 1361841732 386305 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was because statements let bla bla expression bla, bla bla bla bla < 1361841833 327349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, @let doesn't take expressions. < 1361841844 878018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let bike = flip bike < 1361841847 307012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1361841855 440024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Bike = Impossible < 1361841855 471266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Invalid declaration < 1361841885 76446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With @let, it verifies that your declaration is OK and then just sticks it into a file. < 1361841929 331651 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said bla < 1361841966 873065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: People are talking about you in #haskell now < 1361841973 535518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do timers in Open Sound Control always use absolute timestamps? I suggest, allow the program using it, to have an option for a specific starting timestamp to cause it to consider it to have that timestamp instead of the actual date/time. < 1361842020 348859 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why the hell < 1361842032 658334 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361842040 359211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:24:14 :t bike < 1361842041 878799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You can blswett for it. < 1361842083 68206 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can indeed blme. < 1361842139 987656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to look at http://www.gutenberg.org/files/308/308-h/308-h.htm < 1361842148 52564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And somehow I got http://shachaf.net/jkj.html < 1361842175 431282 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the pictures < 1361842211 756437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1361842220 112500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The &ldN dw whspske Tt is aWqeloite pwoe e an,at w,h oneirch ,ne segmedoeohseaseiseo hameen on guilt sbronr w;ereflecte; iaerh& faces od oen ntt we The posInhsioence,dwesdragghe eu0 alm s tohaulh; tlehGladotoho Tt is aWqeloite pur e o but w n thd wn e o but w;une raessqubwas iursur w!>The &ldTwtntor d-d hoalaterhemrres figursg,hf,n,ewce boaa shi od- uitie edo , mougheha rge marsetrscrsteht snbaltrilymm. The &ldBlack lee witeshssg,hdrr y;isuit , .en < 1361842246 616018 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lkj looks the same except without pictures < 1361842250 490455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll down < 1361842250 652004 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jkj < 1361842260 434666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search for "I was thinking" < 1361842320 907228 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1361842324 163801 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how it all gets crossed out < 1361842419 372024 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's what happens when you try to parse HTML using regular expressions. < 1361842503 428309 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you do that shachaf? < 1361842520 229099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I just looked at the page in my browser...................................................... < 1361842529 171566 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1361842534 411149 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can delay the ritual cleansing. < 1361842571 84274 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it got corrupted by shachaf's malignant aura < 1361842577 293383 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cleanse immediately < 1361842580 666239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a malignant aura? < 1361843087 297014 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1361843173 7338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: elliott has a malignant aura too now........ < 1361843202 755960 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1361843208 733108 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you do this < 1361843232 379637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's contagious < 1361843242 47214 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i next???? < 1361843374 373245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about my aura < 1361843387 867130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: aura is a euphemism < 1361843408 172775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: remember how I said you should rejoin #haskell for a day to see what it's like now? < 1361843419 682613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it back. it's completely terrible as of now < 1361843436 382451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361843443 228920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my judgement is vindicated < 1361843452 878569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all shachaf's fault, I think < 1361843515 986757 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty terrible. < 1361843628 698566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what has happened < 1361843670 72676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait elliott is an op now? < 1361843696 711177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'll take just anyone these days. < 1361843702 472958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1361843943 237253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :𝐛𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐭𝐞𝐱𝐭 < 1361843947 851037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :𝐛𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐭𝐞𝐱𝐭 < 1361843962 289908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish that didn't break in screen. :-( < 1361844018 317816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if any FPGA is available in through-holes? < 1361844097 14974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very unlikely, maybe some simple PLD < 1361844108 404531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also you can get breakout boards < 1361844126 147799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :either specifically for that FPGA or just for the SMT form factor < 1361844144 465392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=2811 < 1361844303 435857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:04 > ?src bike < 1361844303 490962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:04 mueval-core: internal error: PAP object entered! < 1361844303 608756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:04 (GHC version 7.4.2 fo... < 1361844305 855085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good going Bike < 1361844346 568469 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361844353 278561 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is a PAP object, is it like a pap smear) < 1361844396 742317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the same thing < 1361844454 375003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it stands for partial application or something.) < 1361844504 411705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Commentary/Rts/Storage/HeapObjects#Partialapplications < 1361844548 236461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though Haskell only has 1-arg functions, for efficiency GHC implements different arities < 1361844569 66621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even though (f x) would be equivalent to a simple function closure (\y -> f x y) < 1361844572 473183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not represented that way < 1361844573 843767 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you enter them < 1361844590 229937 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does looking up source enter one < 1361844598 588943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are fine questions < 1361844609 112720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can't enter them becuase they're known to already be evaluated < 1361844615 912287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure why it should be an error vs. just a no-op < 1361844674 127598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you can statically guarantee that they're never entered, then making entering one an error seems reasonable to me. < 1361844686 167239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know why that's a static guarantee < 1361844691 643724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, in this case there's an implicit param involved -- I think it's a GHC/GHC API bug. < 1361844695 859558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I write something like (mod 2) `seq` () < 1361844714 620719 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361844721 733971 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (mod 2) `seq` () < 1361844723 491544 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1361844724 603263 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1361844729 703788 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neato < 1361844738 305452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you can force functions < 1361844742 161347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a little weird < 1361844748 435322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually really terrible :( < 1361844760 561601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well if it weren't allowed, people would just use dumb wrappers < 1361844769 814568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you couldn't just use a dumb wrapper < 1361844777 931337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess not < 1361844781 173415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seq on functions is what lets you distinguish _|_ vs. const _|_ < 1361844788 870638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hence breaks 2389427394872389428934728934728934 quadrillion useful properties < 1361844789 454868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would also disallow data Fun a b = Fun !(a -> b) < 1361844794 466691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's alot < 1361844800 16022 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361844825 411303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's v. useful operationally to allow it tho < 1361844839 599325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about data Foo a = Foo !a; ... :: Foo (a -> b) < 1361844856 39316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, it makes life harder for people writing optimizers too. < 1361844862 570130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well maybe Foo :: (Eval a) => a -> Foo a < 1361844864 942443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you can't simplify (\x -> f x) to f, for instance. < 1361844867 680592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like the good old days" < 1361844873 211532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1361844883 707763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This ends up being relevant in all sorts of ways. < 1361844885 12918 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361844912 604719 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok can i be dumb for a second, i want to understand why you couldn't simplify (\x -> f x) to f in any situation. < 1361844922 893881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined `seq` () < 1361844923 543118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: consider f = undefined < 1361844924 757678 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1361844926 278874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\x -> undefined x) `seq` () < 1361844928 321792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1361844947 697702 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t undefined < 1361844949 306075 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1361844954 115929 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1361844954 437529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Bike < 1361844956 57417 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t undefined < 1361844957 53859 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t undefined < 1361844957 342327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1361844958 631760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1361844965 708601 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss < 1361844968 489200 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined is bottom < 1361844977 962397 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an object in bottom? < 1361844995 423767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1361844998 614338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1361845007 864736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'undefined' is denotationally equivalent to an infinite loop < 1361845008 280432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bottom the type < 1361845009 539233 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bottom is a value that inhabits all types. It itself isn't a type. < 1361845016 809612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though there is a bottom type. < 1361845021 972927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (let x :: Int -> Int; x = x in x) `seq` () < 1361845025 519189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1361845025 867954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Void, conventionally; which actually is inhabited (by bottom!) in Haskell) < 1361845034 328773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not really! < 1361845034 499305 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a pretty weird value to have < 1361845041 613112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that some undefined terms print an error message rather than melting your CPU is an operational detail < 1361845042 511528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only a botton type if you allubtyping. < 1361845047 481750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact GHC can detect some infinite loops too < 1361845049 340186 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is elsewhen not a word < 1361845053 6714 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make it a word < 1361845054 340466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It is. < 1361845058 881466 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it is not < 1361845061 831653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is? < 1361845071 345329 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe it is because this is english < 1361845078 891044 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're never going to make it a word with that attitude, coppro. < 1361845084 604892 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it's the same value as the value of an infinite loop (conceptually) < 1361845086 534759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is madness &c < 1361845127 542877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ฬђ๏ค ๔ย๔є < 1361845130 488386 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I get that. I'm just not used to it being "a thing" in whatever weird-ass sense undefined is a thing. < 1361845152 863416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's like a function returning an infinite loop. Except it's a value. < 1361845161 494818 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but why is it a value < 1361845162 145238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int foo() { return foo(); } < 1361845164 901090 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there are things you can't do with it < 1361845176 564305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefine < 1361845176 988930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[afk] < 1361845177 215982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined < 1361845179 176054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `undefine' < 1361845179 207167 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `undefined' (imported from Prel... < 1361845179 689652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : can't find file: L.hs < 1361845182 8239 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: undefined just throws an exception. < 1361845183 22310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined < 1361845184 720972 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't compare against it, check for it. f _|_ = 5 means f _ = 5. iiuc < 1361845185 351343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1361845185 858417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's as simple as that < 1361845206 372250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should mention lub at some point < 1361845208 369840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i gotta go < 1361845220 224042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1361845226 309514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'noerjan < 1361845232 519450 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lub? < 1361845274 655086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lub is all you need < 1361845300 795324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you see Simon Marlow's book on Parallel and Concurrent Haskell? < 1361845306 417520 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It provides a lub function that is consistent with the unamb operator but has a more liberal precondition. Where unamb requires its arguments to equal when neither is bottom, lub is able to synthesize a value from the partial information contained in both of its arguments, which is useful with non-flat types." < 1361845307 709999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks pretty great. < 1361845429 687680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should they mention that lub is unsafe too < 1361845483 857499 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lub presumably uses unsafePeformIO. Pretty sure unamb does, anyway < 1361845501 755010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lub uses unamb < 1361845695 964056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :better to have lubbed and ⊥ed than never to have lubbed at all < 1361845696 780460 :linuxnewb2!~dfg232@unaffiliated/linuxnewb2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361845698 586994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as they say" < 1361845845 852089 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wonders if HCSMP is scarier than DayZ, considering that I don't think DayZ does a ban for the month for dying
< 1361845937 559181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ฝɦѻค ɗપɗﻉ < 1361845976 942225 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> lub < 1361845978 559542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `lub' < 1361845978 598107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `nub' (imported from Data.List) < 1361845983 759531 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unamb < 1361845985 681783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `unamb' < 1361845988 82251 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mor < 1361845989 622485 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `mor' < 1361845989 736427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1361845989 751083 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `or' (imported from... < 1361845996 16989 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361845999 875577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: true facts < 1361846015 927718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which facts? < 1361846079 231425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1361846081 104735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of them < 1361846089 97803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not know of this book < 1361846117 805967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9781449335946/index.html < 1361847357 187632 :sebbu3!~sebbu@83.194.164.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361847372 405499 :sebbu3!~sebbu@83.194.164.64 QUIT :Changing host < 1361847372 420014 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361847520 198241 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361849036 45490 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361849299 331341 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361849349 669716 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. What is the purpose of this channel? < 1361849358 78495 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi jdvorak < 1361849359 295386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome jdvorak < 1361849367 318897 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdvorak: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1361849379 20819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdvorak: there isn't one < 1361849381 174928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi jdvorak < 1361849414 391141 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi everyone. < 1361849414 754368 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you related to ddvorak? < 1361849427 960695 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, jdvorak is a pen name. < 1361849430 929631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you related to this other jdvorak I talked to once? < 1361849432 544535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1361849445 782430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I know of multiple jdvoraks. < 1361849453 391568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bets jdvorak = John C. Dvorak
< 1361849498 670598 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that good or bad < 1361849517 452479 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might know my cousin, Ronald Qwerty. < 1361849686 192257 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :多分、ディヴォラックさんじゃ。 < 1361849724 958858 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :多 looks cool, like it's being dragged < 1361849745 480147 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately my char thing only knows it as "U+591A", blugh. < 1361849795 790424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :🈕 < 1361849976 775765 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing of esoteric programming languages. I was thinking about using the channel logs to power a chatterbot, but I'm not sure if that would work well. < 1361850002 133420 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL looks pretty hot though IMHO. < 1361850002 950891 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is already one and it is found quite amusing, so it oughta work < 1361850014 331337 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: working now? < 1361850014 504724 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: telepathy is just a snake, to stand before the mast, by rudyard kipling) < 1361850022 223447 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1361850022 771961 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1361850028 507548 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the right style < 1361850032 465232 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nethack has Kipling in it? < 1361850037 209222 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1361850037 349400 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1361850044 795707 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you like cheese..? < 1361850045 305857 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdvorak: and designed the original command set of emacs macros then? how about a length cell followed by that other stuff < 1361850047 353094 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, why does Adams even have a channel? < 1361850047 869494 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: intel doesn't make cpus like that because they think fnord tastes good. or something. ;p http://www.slengpung.com/ v3/ fnord < 1361850069 46770 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a weird site. < 1361850070 897871 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i like kosher bacon < 1361850071 254542 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdvorak: the bot's logging still isn't working... ram is merely an implementation detail? < 1361850092 25449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've said it before and i'll say it again: zzo38_ebooks < 1361850112 724859 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38_ebooks is actually just a live twitter feed of everything he says < 1361850128 575508 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im craving that ebooks quote now < 1361850130 348371 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ebooks < 1361850131 899441 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :841) fungot, sing me to sleep GreyKnight: 53. file://localhost/ mnt/ space/ media/ books/ 1000+sci-fi%20books/%5bebooks%5d%201000+%20sciencefiction%20%26%20fantasy%20novels%20%28.lit%20forma/ pratchett%2c%20terry/ text/ 14/ fnord This is not a very good song \ 859) i would subscribe to @zzo38_ebooks i would subscribe to @zzo38_ebooks kmc: I have no ebooks which can subscribe to < 1361850148 910566 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♥ < 1361850196 528265 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: cheese NOW < 1361850196 904964 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdvorak: and i have big heat sinks... on the one page before i go on? :) < 1361850259 431467 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^src < 1361850264 549904 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh what is it < 1361850267 73680 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1361850267 88761 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1361850271 352265 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.. I'm not sure if the channel logs for this channel will work well. The conversations in this channel tend to be a bit cryptic. < 1361850277 53455 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1361850277 267841 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list < 1361850291 408283 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show source < 1361850291 539675 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98)S < 1361850292 230942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^elliottski < 1361850302 49783 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdvorak: would your chatterbot be coherent enough for it to matter? < 1361850317 929171 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 that's some good code < 1361850318 254966 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: making image, item, and prevent it from running, and you can't interpret what that means < 1361850343 43203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would subscribe to @kmc_ebooks < 1361850346 294897 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I hadn't really thought about it. < 1361850358 777701 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are chatterbots ever coherent < 1361850363 500919 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is language inherently representational? < 1361850365 836728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coherently constructive chatterbots < 1361850369 74711 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a question that needs to be answered < 1361850378 402013 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is no. < 1361850383 18224 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361850383 339224 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1361850388 18321 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1361850391 407655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: is that you disapproving at me < 1361850394 352057 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks lambdabot i'd been wondering < 1361850405 37795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1361850408 586520 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :-) < 1361850420 290330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy ˙☹˙ < 1361850433 268885 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now I am running a script to strip all of the license information out of all the public domain Project Gutenberg etexts and downloading Wikipedia. < 1361850451 154320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1361850454 896257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you allowed to do that < 1361850457 9418 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, does gutenberg have non-public-domain texts? < 1361850469 441627 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then how will you know they're public domain < 1361850482 461526 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, about 20% of them are not public domain. < 1361850488 234516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: gutenberg is dead < 1361850500 922202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all his copyrights are expired by now < 1361850517 709489 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't even have copyrights in the fourteenth century, but anyway what kind of licenses are the other things under < 1361850525 973605 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the public domain ones have a message stating that they are copyrighted < 1361850542 71503 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-242-16.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the 14th century almost nobody had books < 1361850550 461986 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-242-16.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copyrights were a rather useless notion < 1361850579 992676 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :picturing a monk slapping another monk for copying the wrong gospel (motherfucker) < 1361850586 686162 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PG complete works of Shakespeare are copyrighted.... seems a little silly, right? < 1361850601 793915 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, eternal copyright of the crown or whatever < 1361850613 834248 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copyright of the transcriber < 1361850614 722600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Want another fun game? < 1361850619 73119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gütenbørg would be a good name for a band < 1361850621 150287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1361850621 374604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, this one looks like it might be a mosh bug. < 1361850622 211792 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that covers KJV and Peter Pan in nobodycaresland < 1361850674 742913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: In irssi, type ˙͜˙ and then repeatedly ^W/^Y it < 1361850677 196687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inside mosh < 1361850678 991530 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever typed in the PG Shakespeare complete works wants royalties if you produce a derivative work. < 1361850692 222117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's U+02D9 U+035C U+02D9 < 1361850700 245827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably works with other sequences too.) < 1361850713 699607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha shachaf < 1361850719 32698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you discover this < 1361850727 304178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a mosh bug or an irssi bug or? < 1361850731 482420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens < 1361850731 645050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks mosh-related. < 1361850733 286871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be ok here < 1361850734 408127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i copied < 1361850740 230617 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, I am going to go try to figure out how to program girls' pants zippers. < 1361850743 260339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't happen to me in plain irssi < 1361850746 471365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it munches up the prompt < 1361850756 41897 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to finally get modern Haskell < 1361850763 381115 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take care. < 1361850769 917432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just a combining character thing... < 1361850784 486952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not every character. < 1361850787 616473 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jdvorak: ???? < 1361850812 248894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a͜a works too < 1361850826 755787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜aa͜a works better! < 1361850828 594580 :jdvorak!~jdvorak@24.237.158.17 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1361850832 402773 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye jdvorak < 1361850842 964374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdvorak < 1361850947 790323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's some specific thing about the interaction of mosh and irssi. < 1361851158 286763 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361851993 923820 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1361853776 354848 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1361855037 814625 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cwcfcmyuyqjhgaei NICK :abumirqaan < 1361855405 10788 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1361855515 332278 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361855682 258027 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361855891 27232 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1361856008 196664 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1361856008 251183 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Changing host < 1361856008 251334 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1361856641 247509 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-70.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1361857466 384344 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361858397 345601 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361858441 291415 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361859742 682221 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361859790 593685 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has some J-like thoughts that might fit better in a dependently typed environment
< 1361859808 951968 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because I think it really wants a list in the type < 1361860316 130709 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361860804 460342 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-70.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1361861218 712315 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1361861220 176040 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is a jobby < 1361861238 469986 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361861240 530792 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^list < 1361861240 545145 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1361861248 44729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did someone vandalise slist? < 1361861269 832576 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1361861269 883980 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1361861291 58657 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Phantom_Hoover did < 1361861298 136238 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/16641639a4cf < 1361861318 193753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phanton_Hoover not to vandalize slist < 1361861318 351208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1361861344 184608 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is a jobby < 1361861367 456948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 2243 < 1361861371 851683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1361861372 865050 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file slist \ Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. \ 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file slist.rej < 1361861376 454629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it even work < 1361861392 828146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '' slist* < 1361861394 57356 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist.rej:--- slist Mon Feb 25 12:50:34 2013 +0000 \ slist.rej:+++ slist Sun Feb 24 20:51:34 2013 +0000 \ slist.rej:@@ -1 +1 @@ \ slist.rej:-echo Sgeo is a jobby \ slist.rej:+echo Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1361861419 875296 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? jobby < 1361861421 331973 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :jobby? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361862192 480041 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-67-248-121-45.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1361862195 232843 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-67-248-121-45.nycap.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361862458 550634 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-67-248-121-45.nycap.res.rr.com NICK :wareta < 1361862460 218739 :wareta!~wareya@cpe-67-248-121-45.nycap.res.rr.com NICK :wareya < 1361862568 248566 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@91.247.221.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361863542 856649 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEENAH: oh my glub the serk twins bein adorbubble again < 1361863845 565912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a real word? < 1361863854 128271 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1361864099 598435 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the words Shakespeare used real words? < 1361864102 319258 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes a word real? < 1361864164 393181 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a word is real if the limit of the geometric mean of its continued fraction's terms is khinchin's constant < 1361864201 143864 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361864331 933465 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but that's not true for all reals :< < 1361864349 983149 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words aren't numbers, Fiora. < 1361864357 486300 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1361864357 670294 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :*.net *.split < 1361864357 796003 :iamcal_!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxvhvucuznwyonmv QUIT :*.net *.split < 1361864357 833874 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1361864358 152322 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1361864411 804160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Shakespeare isn't real =, so how could he have used real words? < 1361864419 435122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how can you average words < 1361864420 876048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wait, does Sgeo_ still believe in Shakespeare?) < 1361864457 495508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well, words are monoids. < 1361864459 760768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's easy. < 1361864464 223765 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1361864477 445474 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361864477 469670 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1361864477 484088 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1361864492 844273 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If words form a field they probably even have continued fraction expansions, huh. < 1361864494 686389 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-24-33-39.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361864505 484816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puzzle: From an alphabet of size 3, generate a string of length n that has no identical consecutive substring. < 1361864517 32803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. no aa or abab, but abcb is allowed. < 1361864521 889150 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"b" < 1361864522 801952 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1361864529 859726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :n = 100 < 1361864530 353878 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361864553 493366 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without loss of generality, n = 1 and the answer is "b" < 1361864553 684893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there a clever way < 1361864564 900236 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if it's even possible... it must be
< 1361864571 497126 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, pi doesn't... erm, hmm < 1361864578 836075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would just write a program that searches for it < 1361864608 533739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there's a clever way to do it without backtracking. < 1361864621 547952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361864627 44351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that I figured it out, or even understand how it works.) < 1361864630 606827 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm can you even use dynamic programming? probably not since you have to break into 50-50 but also 33-33-34 and 20-20-20-20-20 and so on and so forth < 1361864634 132258 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the decimal expansion of pi has an alphabet of size 10, and ... well, parts might repeat locally, but the whole thing doesn't repeat < 1361864643 223678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was presented to me as a "write a program to search for it" problem. < 1361864654 505406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably figure out the clever way. < 1361864667 273906 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the alphabet size three specifically, do you know? < 1361864672 349546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 2 is too small. < 1361864681 97030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can do any length string with 3. < 1361864685 646839 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm. < 1361864687 950219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is the interesting size for most things ;P < 1361864693 32507 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about 2 and a half < 1361864697 41953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3-SAT, 3-coloring graphs < 1361864698 649855 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not real math if you're dealing with numbers over three etc etc < 1361864702 711922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :threesomes < 1361864709 670110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy makes a good point < 1361864710 538756 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 and a halfsomes??? < 1361864718 316694 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: it's called a normal number, but that's not what shachaf asked for < 1361864719 571947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :creepy < 1361864724 611045 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :two and a halfsomes sound quite exciting. < 1361864727 982956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your alphabet is abᶜ < 1361864734 536106 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is one of the parties dead? Or maybe an albatross. < 1361864739 767773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a small child :x < 1361864748 916715 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's gross, dude. < 1361864751 81719 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a bunch of half-people < 1361864756 939055 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, 5 of them < 1361864761 228212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it's not my fault there's a popular (terrible) TV show called two and a half men < 1361864772 805445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is about two dudes and a kid < 1361864773 156468 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the cocaine guy still on that? < 1361864777 208925 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one with the Foodfight! guy in it right < 1361864780 524198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he died on the way back to his home planet < 1361864785 832861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps an infinite series of people decreasing in size. < 1361864786 652960 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361864800 479502 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Foodfight! guy is dead????? < 1361864810 680031 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, so jainist? kinky. < 1361864812 64729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now they have Ashton Kutcher instead < 1361864824 207963 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i am wondering though < 1361864832 61426 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a field you can have continued fractions on it right < 1361864847 387345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know who the Foodfight! guy is or what Foodfight! is or what television is or how it's possible for anything to exist < 1361864867 867637 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :r u ok < 1361864875 76616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361864881 261871 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k good < 1361864898 890766 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foodfight! is beautiful, a work of art < 1361864909 613363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i a work of art < 1361864930 812961 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you try hard and believe in yourself you can be anything you want to be < 1361864942 873894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i want to be monqy < 1361864945 618386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that possible < 1361864948 959262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it too ambitious < 1361864953 15508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(im trying) < 1361864971 584962 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i didnt have to try at all to be monqy? maybe youre trying too hard < 1361865064 890789 :iamcal_!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxvhvucuznwyonmv JOIN :#esoteric < 1361865160 170890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361865174 150109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: imo you should start a cult < 1361865194 275649 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a bad idea < 1361865199 776323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should all start cults and see who wins < 1361865202 769649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can have a metacult < 1361865206 228403 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing for a forward thinking entrepeneurial Chinese friendshop monqy to do. < 1361865279 582366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suspects miaui is a cheap knockoff of miuaf.
< 1361865343 243220 :nooga!~nooga@46.250.173.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361866117 270497 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361866189 210697 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361866237 167062 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361867189 399134 :hagb4rd|lounge!~perdito@koln-d9329ec3.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361867507 70795 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1361868482 13297 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 QUIT :Quit: http://about.me/john_metcalf < 1361868860 155744 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: nope < 1361869446 28882 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1361869470 946324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361872999 548313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can something be so disordered that any attempt to further disorder it will increase not the amount of disorder, but the amount of order? < 1361873049 188172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it depend what kind of order it is supposed to be and isn't? < 1361873060 230749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or vice versa? < 1361873686 787407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can obviously have systems with maximal entropy < 1361873778 724519 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCD6CF.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361874247 31058 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCD6CF.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331] < 1361874368 938157 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1361875270 54561 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361876108 252443 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@91.247.221.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361876901 45294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361877056 265940 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@91.247.221.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361878211 762151 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361879462 552406 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361880209 144081 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361882163 293506 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@91.247.221.56 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361882538 545568 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1361882538 632561 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1361883577 658455 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361883867 249650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361884643 69800 :Arc_Koen!~Arc_Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361884648 60885 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCD6CF.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361885208 313473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361885256 243978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361885633 217472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361885692 544922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361886014 208635 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCD6CF.dip.t-dialin.net PART :#esoteric < 1361886089 574139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361886132 663476 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1361887168 430346 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361887487 502993 :stuntane!~stuntane@c211-30-196-14.artrmn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361887573 617036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361887635 50934 :nooga!~nooga@46.250.173.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1361887639 719096 :nooga!~nooga@46.250.173.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm playing DF again < 1361887711 47478 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, go play Frog Fractions < 1361887803 176321 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://twinbeardstudios.com/frog-fractions < 1361887806 218060 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a flash game) < 1361887928 588946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1361888046 813755 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@c211-30-196-14.artrmn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1361888616 112450 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skrillex Drops One http://youtu.be/8qIdGkGFMLg < 1361888739 963521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361889059 689566 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Quit: KEEP SPARKS. FLAME AWAY. < 1361889609 649342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, when i first saw the name i thought it was frog factions < 1361889622 809436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i thought it was going to be some sort of frog-themed grand strategy game < 1361889700 31377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it kind of is < 1361889894 621785 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-26.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361889909 675838 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-26.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1361889909 731050 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361890058 269097 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361890463 468661 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361890483 775361 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I argue that no random generate can exist which generates uniformly distributed random numbers in the range 0..Infinity? < 1361890515 747221 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the probability of a number to occur would each be 1/Infinity ~= 0 => no number actually occurs < 1361890759 690914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really what probability 0 means < 1361890770 96599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you throw a dart at a dartboard, the probability of hitting the spot you do hit is zero < 1361890817 639853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you can use this to argue that the continuum is a ridiculous concept < 1361890837 915356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assume a perfectly circular dartboard < 1361890883 580109 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :assume a perfectly spherical dartboard < 1361890914 116977 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"assume a spherical dartboard in simple harmonic motion, in a vacuum..." < 1361891162 556763 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@c211-30-196-14.artrmn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361891476 919863 :carado!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361891606 907505 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361891812 570668 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to learn how to money < 1361891843 857207 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't know monetary stuff that well" is probably a signal to companies meaing "We don't have to pay a decent salary at all" < 1361891857 752417 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take nightclasses? < 1361891976 616852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo ask kmc for advice < 1361891991 292749 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you telling them that < 1361892066 581376 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're asking how much I'm looking for < 1361892071 184523 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't have an answer < 1361892092 347052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you should research an answer < 1361892105 15784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an entry level software job, in what area of the world? < 1361892109 157262 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1361892114 574120 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :New York < 1361892128 224693 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, person said it was a Junior developer position < 1361892135 545660 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$50K < 1361892139 85084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask for $110,000 < 1361892146 46194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably won't get it < 1361892161 386929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about NY but the average salary in SF area is now $120k < 1361892167 626869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and NY ain't cheap either < 1361892182 223997 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is a lot more optimistic than I am < 1361892196 399389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$50k is a pittance for programmers < 1361892210 760038 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The figure they mentioned is lower than that :( < 1361892216 11652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fuck them then < 1361892217 332535 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although they said something about bonuses < 1361892220 996351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you think you can't get a higher paying job < 1361892224 645959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ is this a finance job < 1361892229 583044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is this Jane St? < 1361892233 842950 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Jane St < 1361892243 498825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like a horrible scam < 1361892379 116467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, how the fuck are you so worldly-wise about programmer wages in america... < 1361892401 348698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I googled "new york average entry-level salary" < 1361892402 274542 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I am starting to think I can't get a higher paying job < 1361892420 782442 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, for, like, any profession? < 1361892422 433488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many have you interviewed with? < 1361892432 525148 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually gotten any interviews yet. < 1361892433 218615 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Phantom_Hoover < 1361892437 323831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ < 1361892444 284105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361892459 462826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't say that you can't get a job if you haven't interviewed < 1361892464 361844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many have you applied to? < 1361892473 837676 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can't get an interview, how could I get a job? < 1361892474 188963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you getting rejected before the interview stage? < 1361892479 805441 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've applied to a bunch < 1361892481 674367 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And pretty much < 1361892481 688642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1361892485 728746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i misunderstood then < 1361892490 949988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many is "a bunch" < 1361892509 487895 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you get about 1200/month and that should make you happy :D < 1361892514 133253 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember offhand. I should start keeping track of every application < 1361892516 343044 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's euros < 1361892539 719572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's 'here' < 1361892547 439716 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :for *entry* level, 1200 are considered much < 1361892549 141767 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greece < 1361892560 445526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1361892567 583498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US programmer salaries are silly and bubbly but that's what they are < 1361892571 693073 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :what state ? :D < 1361892592 955912 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently only applied to 3 via LinkedIn. I remember more. < 1361892598 708100 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see how many via Dice < 1361892616 975742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: if you're going to take a crappy job, make sure there's nothing in your contract preventing you from leaving later < 1361892620 405902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. noncompete clause < 1361892629 598461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361892631 627871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, istr people saying we were in the middle of a second dot com bubble, like, two years ago < 1361892633 989878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :common in NY finance especially < 1361892637 103699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yep < 1361892649 232041 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 on Dice.com within the last 180 days < 1361892653 916497 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And iirc 4 on CyberCoders < 1361892664 71101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the overpaid web brogrammers are driving everyone else out of SF by raising rents < 1361892664 881869 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, good advice < 1361892666 62474 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1361892668 246215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it pretty much sucks < 1361892668 416915 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was shortly after someone paid a tonne of cash for twitter when it was making a massive loss < 1361892692 59626 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember Vark.com < 1361892704 550045 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... < 1361892707 779491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the joke < 1361892726 748060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity554.html < 1361892735 347439 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I misremembered the name < 1361892786 188707 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the actual name < 1361892793 537553 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question-and-answer site that Google bought out and subsequently discontinued < 1361892855 532404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have google actually succeeded in any of their Big New Ventures lately < 1361892878 96421 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1361892893 110652 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't cybercoders a scam ? < 1361892894 326103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 10 years SF will be full of former brogrammers who are now flipping burgers and picking up trash and doing all the shitty jobs that actually make a city work < 1361892909 136713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your garbage man will solicit you for angel investment in his shitty iphone app < 1361892910 169711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c00kiemon5ter: there is actually exactly one website that isn't a scam < 1361892914 850840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't figured out which one it is yet < 1361892919 203964 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1361892926 549385 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I completely made up vark.com < 1361892932 159284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, apparently not < 1361892933 227558 :nooga!~nooga@46.250.173.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1361892944 409615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think it's funnier not to find out < 1361892971 624035 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was kind of like a stackoverflow of EVERYTHING < 1361892977 820898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha, this B scam is fantastic < 1361892978 118238 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was written inn Ruby on Rails < 1361892983 735402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed < 1361892988 651489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you mean um... quora? < 1361892999 577742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't stackexchange kind of like a stackoverflow of everything? < 1361893003 975478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he means vark.com, aka aardvark < 1361893005 166905 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1361893020 596347 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES, that was it < 1361893047 916691 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vark.com gives absolutely no relevant hits on google, which is fairly telling < 1361893089 921837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: has this been a while in the making? < 1361893106 547706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the B scam? I think Wooble just came up with it out of nowhere < 1361893123 900878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's possible to come up with it unless you're really cynical < 1361893129 708696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's just, there's been a few posts in B out of nowhere the past few days < 1361893131 619259 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361893133 925811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with G.'s motion in Agora < 1361893141 723536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361893146 975533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are indeed out of nowhere, as far as I can tell < 1361893149 537551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't woobl that guy you hate < 1361893152 867628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as soon as one starts, people are reminded of b < 1361893171 99033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Wooble's like some sort of snark elemental < 1361893173 168317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wooble is that guy who hates everyone < 1361893178 982208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just exists to make snarky comments about things < 1361893196 987067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, he also deregisters < 1361893197 540279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes but you even wrote a poem about how much you hated him! < 1361893212 323346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... did? < 1361893219 659741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't answer that < 1361893222 975741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I choose to believe it is true regardless < 1361893236 461395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have posted a message to the public forum explicitly stating my wish to become a player more recently than I last forfeited the game. < 1361893244 56818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that's missing a < 1361893256 993682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's hard to believe, because I thought Wooble was platonically forfeiting at every possible moment < 1361893272 702869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he spelled your name wrong < 1361893280 699123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that this is B, that quite possibly matters < 1361893290 826878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I mentioned that on the list < 1361893297 449351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :B is kind of like the formal logic version of nomic < 1361893304 397716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to Agora's law < 1361893630 914713 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if we made a nomic how long it would last < 1361893685 494625 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fun fact: If you have garbage collector, it may swoop in the middle of swapping and release your memory under your feet." < 1361893687 29621 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :da fuck? < 1361893693 970823 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/19941q/swap_two_variables_without_using_a_temp_variable/c8lwvjv < 1361893718 763992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are storing pointers < 1361893724 22355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, if you're swapping two pointers < 1361893730 401606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're running the gc in a different thread for some reason < 1361893737 6767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're using a conservative GC < 1361893739 9365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1361893747 482912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :conservative GC also can't deal with e.g. XOR linked list < 1361893817 175478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XOR linked lists make me feel really uneasy < 1361893842 57512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :conservative GC makes me feel really uneasy < 1361893845 328858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1361893902 411730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361893905 993801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're /both/ awkward ideas < 1361893977 190308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the standard Ruby interpreter uses a conservative GC :( :( :( < 1361894016 75684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a conservative GC for a C program, which happens to be a Ruby interpreter < 1361894034 606847 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't a conservative GC make lots of space leaks < 1361894036 573825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the standard ruby interpreter does a great many things < 1361894043 638092 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361894053 439793 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a pain to write C extensions with a precise GC though < 1361894069 73371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby does call/cc by copying the C stack btw < 1361894069 667291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: on 32-bit arches especially < 1361894116 575896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conservative GCs can't do any sort of interesting memory operations other than deallocation, can they? < 1361894130 193705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they can't change pointers because they don't know whether they're pointers < 1361894141 255037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :think that's correct < 1361894149 193401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they can't fix heap fragmentation < 1361894154 148892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw, what do you think of OCaml-style GCs? they work like conservative GCs but the runtime agrees not to use certain integers < 1361894160 840439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that if those bit patterns are found, they're definitely pointers < 1361894281 810823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just standard tagging, no? < 1361894356 822643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of what makes that work is that 'normal' code can't do things like XOR linked lists < 1361894377 217068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language has opaque references but not pointers < 1361894377 394260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah but I like that way of describing it better :) < 1361894442 226520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how ocaml does arrays < 1361894445 129239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want to write an Acme.XorLinkedList module for Haskell < 1361894447 569524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to horrify people < 1361894491 423725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesss < 1361894492 170134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1361894890 487546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know SPARC has instructions for pointer tagging < 1361894924 944432 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361894970 469882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like, an addressing mode that ignores tags when using a pointer? < 1361894999 410026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Performs the addition of rs1 and op2, using two’s complement arithmetic, storing the result into rd. Trap if either of the source operands’ low-order two bits are not zero" < 1361895057 312884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call these 'tagged arithmetic' instructions < 1361895086 308801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU trap on dynamic type error :) < 1361895113 354420 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow! < 1361895128 926766 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the inverse would be trapping on using a non-pointer as an address < 1361895147 94609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that too but you have to use the high order bits ;) < 1361895160 796738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh true, paging and things < 1361895178 104459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1361895183 975484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPARC enforces alignment doesn't it < 1361895192 277372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's built in and always enabled :) < 1361895198 682306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1361895207 585759 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :genius < 1361895213 325002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well but that's backwards then :/ < 1361895226 773239 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... yeah, I guess normally integers don't get a tag right < 1361895226 972700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the arithmetic instruction also wants the low bits to be zero < 1361895227 673875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1361895229 128619 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or er, are zero < 1361895240 353913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. there goes that one < 1361895248 43326 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we can make a chip that can only do unaligned loads < 1361895250 859912 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and traps on aligned loads < 1361895282 829627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The UltraSPARC III - A magical mystery tour" < 1361895285 810597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must read this immediately < 1361895329 82940 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"address space identifier" that's... huh o_O < 1361895364 282353 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :configurable branch delay slots? O_O < 1361895404 169118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 stage pipeline o_O < 1361895418 530886 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Direct call – 30-bit address in instruction" <-- so they must have been like, okay whatever we're using 25% of the entire instruction space for call < 1361895429 278481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, I guess it just lets you use a single bit rather than 32 bits for a NOP after the branch < 1361895452 359379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 stages sounds like a lot, but I don't really know < 1361895458 216616 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it in-order? < 1361895466 959101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking about designing a CPU with more than 2 stages makes my head spin ;P < 1361895467 857833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1361895469 557884 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it probably would be < 1361895482 232244 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm thinking of modern chips which have like, 14-25 stage pipelines < 1361895494 863664 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the atom is 16 apparently < 1361895496 953848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's insane < 1361895499 184279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not know < 1361895526 419154 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :core 2 is 14, sandy bridge is ~16-19 (I don't think the specifics are public) < 1361895549 936425 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see, variable pipeline length < 1361895561 351506 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bulldozer is like... 22 < 1361895606 810046 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think pipelines have been around that depth for a loooong time now < 1361895612 165536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1361895618 752266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are all the stages? < 1361895637 834367 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up some others. cortex a9 is 8-11 stages, cortex a8 is ~14 (?)
< 1361895683 890170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION knows so little about how computers actually work
< 1361895703 31309 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to find some diagrams and things...
< 1361895719 361924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand the basic 5 stage RISC pipeline < 1361895725 973268 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction fetch < 1361895732 235363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's extremely unlikely I could design one with all the bypasses and whatever < 1361895746 454050 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction predecode (figure out instruction length, might be done in the fetch unit, might be a separate stage, etc) < 1361895752 458427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction decode < 1361895768 805578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction fetch, instruction decode, lunch break < 1361895774 246954 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's an instruction queue and the microcode system to split up things into multiple uops < 1361895779 175217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory fetch, tea & crumpets < 1361895786 969797 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and allocating registers from the renamer and stuff < 1361895789 522227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1361895800 796450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is the rest of the pipeline a pipeline for uops < 1361895805 674220 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then stuff gets sent to the scheduler which dispatches uops around < 1361895818 799432 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://docs.notur.no/uit/archive/HPCiA07/hpcia07-documents/intel-tools-tutorial/1.%20Core%20Architecture.pdf < 1361895822 312592 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :page 10 of this? < 1361895831 814335 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think the rest is for uops < 1361895835 294375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it cool that basically every part of a computer system contains a scheduler and a storage manager somewhere < 1361895848 771002 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really is < 1361895921 211710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading that the 'bottleneck' for modern pipelines (i.e. limiting factor for speed) is often things like "select the first 4 executable instructions from a 40-long queue" < 1361895928 692963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trade off LSD with conventional loop unrolling" < 1361895947 14045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1361895964 920968 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Cortex-A8_Architecture#Cortex-A8_Pipeline_Diagram < 1361895970 867394 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay ARM's diagram is a gazillion times better < 1361895976 672793 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one's an in-order chip too. < 1361895981 391152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: snicker snicker lsd, etc. < 1361895984 216595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-IEEE FP? < 1361896012 320618 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... guessing it has like, a slow fallback mode for denormals and things? <_> < 1361896012 632091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WUT? that's possible? < 1361896025 60787 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the playstation 2 had non-IEEE FP! < 1361896072 941178 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, what VPN software should I use? < 1361896088 131787 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had a FLOAT_MIN/FLOAT_MAX (no infinity), and no denormals, and all operations were saturating < 1361896091 663725 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was kinda cool < 1361896119 627644 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361896122 948022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1361896132 627475 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1361896141 149467 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has the 'upside' of contributing to making it incredibly obnoxious to emulate... XD < 1361896312 334132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: interesting to know :) < 1361896329 184606 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's a bunch of other reasons that it's hard that I could ramble about but... ) < 1361896339 274505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: openvpn. the one, the only, the open, the other qualifiers that begin with "o". < 1361896353 891396 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh um... I think a lot of operations on CPUs nowadays can have multiple cycle latency which is one way the pipeline gets longer. < 1361896354 95387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PPP over SSH < 1361896362 361131 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like simd multiplies are 5 cycles on sandy bridge < 1361896364 348073 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can do that? < 1361896368 467233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Hey, what VPN software should I use? tswett: openvpn. the one, the only, the open, the other qualifiers that begin with "o". < 1361896372 352572 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :970) Hey, what VPN software should I use? tswett: openvpn. the one, the only, the open, the other qualifiers that begin with "o". < 1361896374 322837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i've done it, not a serious suggestion though < 1361896386 895541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find various articles about it < 1361896408 530872 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: not bad, but then, neither excellent. < 1361896418 664263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used to be 3 :< < 1361896428 670932 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that SK calculus interpreter I wrote yesterday? < 1361896439 383494 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm translating it into C < 1361896446 924857 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've come up with some interesting ways to reduce the effective pipeline length I think, like, maybe it was starting with nehalem or something but they added the ability for the cpu to go in and cancel uops after a branch misprediction < 1361896450 736152 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help me < 1361896486 598132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: godspeed you < 1361896489 510361 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if it knows the branch mispredicts early, like the comparison for the branch doesn't have many dependencies or something, it can go in and toss all the uops from the mispredicted path and save lots of resources < 1361896508 396793 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it helps double with hyperthreading, since that makes it easier for the cpu to keep doing something < 1361896603 552420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1361896604 25923 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Dwelling People" to "Dwelling People" < 1361896621 290180 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: tough luck with your C-slation. < 1361896686 751658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1361896687 381442 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Corrupting" to "Corrupting" < 1361896691 809889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no < 1361896695 104903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yo < 1361896695 279470 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1361896698 885102 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1361896699 53056 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Gnawing Bite" to "Abounding" < 1361896705 746028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds good! < 1361896711 93775 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sorry for rambling, cpu architecture is fun <.<
< 1361896728 989480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :branch prediction scares me < 1361896740 42649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i too think it is fun < 1361896778 678687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if one day, the branches start predicting... us < 1361896790 26986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they already do. < 1361896799 561393 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::A < 1361896821 525493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit i just realised, that's some sort of bird smiley < 1361896864 208859 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the whole branch prediction hash table thing < 1361896865 286452 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::{ < 1361896869 220414 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::} < 1361896890 464107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::N < 1361896895 915828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brunch prediction < 1361896919 528084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what's that? < 1361896945 113581 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :branch prediction is one of the things that companies are really secretive about nowadays so I don't know much but < 1361896977 188715 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I remember hearing, modern intel chips keep a sort of hash table based on the location of the branch, some history information like the call stack, and so on < 1361896989 422390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: P(brunch) ~ Pois(7) < 1361897026 598358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fish for brunch < 1361897056 521880 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like I guess it effectively contains the X thousand most common combinations or whatevers < 1361897067 992339 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361897074 891086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how many operating systems are we running at any given time < 1361897080 242081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since evidently CPUs have one now < 1361897093 223073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of VMs basically count, especially ones with userspace threading < 1361897106 809971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :browsers are operating systems < 1361897111 91641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too yes < 1361897115 665804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you can argue that falls under VM < 1361897118 835548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1361897128 440657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess the JS operating system they have is almost a separate thing to the whole multiple processes thing they do < 1361897193 269127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course only the tragically un-hip use software without virtualization < 1361897203 678537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have a VM hypervisor in there too < 1361897212 670652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc are you going to start complaining about other people again... < 1361897220 617939 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running some free android emulator thing to play android games <.< < 1361897239 247030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are you going to start complaining about me too < 1361897257 49411 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting uncomfortably meta < 1361897279 934449 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu2 < 1361897306 534007 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361897317 654392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like kmc complaining < 1361897327 464830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :helps towards my gda of 10 complaints / day < 1361897363 61874 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can approximate kmc's brunches and complaints by a skellam distribution. < 1361897452 728238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :brunch sounds excellent. i haven't eaten today < 1361897540 303566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs to the nearest nutritionist grave to strap a dynamo to it
< 1361897640 659295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can you upgrade esolangs.org's mediawiki installation for me. < 1361897649 468650 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do nutritionists have to say about brunch < 1361897679 377536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no elliott < 1361897722 169970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you answer that question differently < 1361897728 725132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1361897777 223894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're awful < 1361897781 124533 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's the point, I don't know. I need a simple way to measure the nutritio-zombo-electromagnetic force of a random brunch. < 1361897783 714888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible < 1361897785 626321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the worst < 1361897795 153050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Benedict XVI to Keep His Name and Become Pope Emeritus" < 1361897820 836352 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha what < 1361897823 568161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1361897830 848361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently this is what happens if the pope resigns < 1361897843 368656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you sure you aren't measuring a brunch of convenience? < 1361897866 24594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: dunno. lunchtime. be back in an hour or so... < 1361897871 171721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: haha, the weather forecaster on TV just brought up a weather map with only two temperatures showing: 3 in the midlands, and 17 in the scottish highlands < 1361897878 956808 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PART :#esoteric < 1361897892 649888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest of the weather has stopped < 1361897908 374201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently England doesn't even get to console itself with "at least Scotland's weather is even worse" any more < 1361897996 114859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OTOH, Scotland's everything else is worse < 1361898015 522456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it have a better education system? < 1361898037 949358 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scotland's education system is like Harry Potter's < 1361898093 517223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there are many ways to interpret that analogy, but I can't make any of them work < 1361898151 588970 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, high school until age of 17 instead of 18 < 1361898210 518511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know that was true about Harry Potter < 1361898216 406380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the most obvious detail of the books < 1361898225 159034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they're all wizards < 1361898338 394632 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do actually get taught maths and english in scottish schools, so that's different < 1361898384 713819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we don't get taught scottish in english schools < 1361898399 694308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was by analogy to hogwarts < 1361898406 162702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361898453 448609 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do get taught magic, though < 1361898492 213131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: who's "we" here? < 1361898499 223658 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The English < 1361898501 720979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1361898520 65566 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham isn't quite north enough to be in Scotland < 1361898525 628668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders when the last time an english/scottish flamewar happened
< 1361898529 855778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably on Wikipedia < 1361898541 973153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah, I know, but I was wondering if it was "all northeners" or some concept like that < 1361898547 615714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember there being a really pointless edit war on wikipedia < 1361898556 431018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… we should find someone here from London, so we can mock them < 1361898558 661750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that happens a lot < 1361898563 186752 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :over how ireland was referred to in the article 'rock pool life of the british isles' < 1361898588 744045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this the "british and irish isles" thing, or something else? < 1361898598 643356 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a really excellent pun based on a christy moore song about it but i don't think anyone truly appreciated it < 1361898640 947842 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it referred to as "The land of the bloody catholic splitters"? < 1361898651 779435 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I could see why that would be controversial < 1361898657 137339 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It leaves out Northern Ireland < 1361898676 233969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: … < 1361898699 551957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that would be it < 1361898735 524757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also apparently at least one of the more important iras was marxist! i find this strangely interesting) < 1361898741 295260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: using the unicode one makes you impossible to take seriously, btw < 1361898755 187001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I do it out of habit < 1361898762 750712 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1361898765 770093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when it breaks people's backends that don't understand non-ASCII encodings < 1361898768 788017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also being ais523 makes you impossible to take seriously < 1361898779 501060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the logs still show you using unicode ellipses elliott < 1361898788 401284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the rare occasions I use Windows, I end up turning caps lock on a lot by mistake < 1361898788 884192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :…...…...…...…...…...…... < 1361898796 52515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and off almost as often, although mostly intentionally < 1361898808 130514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow pretty < 1361898817 177546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you using a fixed-width font? < 1361898840 194157 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, just out of curiosity, are you connected to Clan El[l]iot[t] at all? < 1361898847 43108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1361898849 655683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I have no idea < 1361898858 617119 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, research your family tree! < 1361898878 583252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what regex-like format uses [] to mean "maybe what's in the square brackets"? < 1361898886 656012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I hear there's a haskell program for that < 1361898889 872747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the wp article on clan elliott can't make its mind up about how to spell it < 1361898891 510022 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, when did I say it's regex < 1361898906 701441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you didn't, and I don't expect it to be, I said "regex-like" for a reason < 1361899066 621029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like how there's apparently a newcastleton in the borders < 1361899078 657364 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think I've been there < 1361899082 53960 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't much there < 1361899152 248325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: now I'm imagining a field with a few stones in it < 1361899158 26796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a collapsing hut < 1361899189 372748 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's new (castleton), not newcastle (ton) < 1361899236 908940 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Elliotts, with the Armstrongs, were the most troublesome of the great Scottish Border families in the Middle Ages." < 1361899248 44622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like elliott all right < 1361899299 606646 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: AWAY < 1361899328 665191 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1361899603 228629 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361899627 301843 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361899828 91815 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (209/50,218/50) < 1361899829 737435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (4.18,4.36) < 1361899856 110845 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 50*4.5343 < 1361899857 757508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 226.715 < 1361900152 428756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I think I got into an argument with an Apple fanboy on rgrn, of all places < 1361900188 306398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've mostly stopped now, when their argument reached the level of "there's no such thing as a free development environment because you still have to buy a computer to run it on2 < 1361900191 766920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/2/"/ < 1361900429 500325 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361900441 313389 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361900589 417911 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PART :#esoteric < 1361900732 76286 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361900744 19212 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361900757 15985 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lol < 1361900817 46471 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1361901107 494274 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361901113 589985 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog horizontal < 1361901121 776609 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361901144 760197 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361901154 956807 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog vertical < 1361901157 848565 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1361901159 181605 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems unlikely < 1361901177 467476 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote horizontal < 1361901182 696501 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5219 < 1361901185 788173 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361901210 1793 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I love is that the pastelog vertical includes log lines with horizontal in them. < 1361901235 146052 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FYI, it probably timed out) < 1361901240 699022 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais: I, too, would be agitated if I spent $2000 on a computer to play slaves to armok < 1361901267 57186 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1361901273 351594 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: any way to avoid that? < 1361901287 115955 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file bin/pastelog < 1361901288 518584 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pastelog: POSIX shell script text executable < 1361901292 665691 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could up the timeout limit X-D < 1361901294 171170 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastelog < 1361901295 188736 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ \ pasterandom() { \ if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then \ echo "No." \ exit \ fi \ for i in $(seq "$1"); do \ file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \ done | paste \ } \ \ if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ < 1361901316 499964 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what, fungot? < 1361901317 79547 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: fnord ' who's me?' and actually read that ' watcom' < 1361901325 37708 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's how it goes. < 1361901501 383081 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1361901503 604819 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is shuf in there? < 1361901521 775828 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was "Then what, fungot" supposed to rhyme? < 1361901522 683305 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: there's just common standards. they do not end up coding bash/ python background. the updates rarely took more than a power failure. < 1361901535 19457 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't it just grep? < 1361901552 8136 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask me, I didn't write it. < 1361901556 551574 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the beauty of HackBot. < 1361901563 852942 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I write a new script again? < 1361901579 928907 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Unix. You Unix. < 1361901639 178981 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run timeout 3 echo ':-)' < 1361901641 4646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro how do you still not know how HackEgo works... < 1361901643 325492 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:-) < 1361901649 146744 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361901666 3003 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361901671 406735 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: The timeout is 30 seconds. < 1361901671 939176 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: quotation marks are hard < 1361901685 247610 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: So pastebin it and `fetch < 1361901697 5401 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/fetch < 1361901698 293905 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/fetch: No such file or directory < 1361901703 960306 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : `fetch is magic. < 1361901707 263544 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i... -e 's/grep/timeout 25 grep/' bin/pastelog < 1361901713 329061 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361901717 783021 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: lol, nice of you. < 1361901728 873451 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog horizontal < 1361901750 95548 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28302 < 1361901759 965603 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: how does `fetch work? < 1361901765 734730 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It fetches a URL. < 1361901767 463717 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :filename url? other way around? < 1361901777 606996 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just URL, it'll write it to whatever name it feels is appropriate. < 1361901781 672193 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastebin.com/dkVb20VL < 1361901781 961763 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to Unix it into place after that. < 1361901790 233650 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-02-26 18:03:09 URL:http://pastebin.com/dkVb20VL [12720] -> "dkVb20VL" [1] < 1361901800 16875 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dkVb20VL < 1361901802 563023 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1361901805 706758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can exploit the name it picks < 1361901807 303255 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you suck < 1361901824 110331 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/pastelog... < 1361901827 424756 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361901829 54889 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Idonno, can you make wget choose to name a file ../../../../etc/passwd or something? < 1361901836 382345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yeah that's what I'm wondering < 1361901845 46037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that script is a bad idea btw < 1361901848 863492 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why? < 1361901849 856542 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If wget fetches one file, it uses the basename < 1361901851 85717 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Client Quit < 1361901854 655892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls /var/irclogs/_esoteric to see one reason why < 1361901858 949462 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you're dumb enough to tell it not to) < 1361901862 190728 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /var/irclogs/_esoteric < 1361901863 987357 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003-01-18-raw.txt \ 2003-01-18.txt \ 2003-01-19-raw.txt \ 2003-01-19.txt \ 2003-01-20-raw.txt \ 2003-01-20.txt \ 2003-01-21-raw.txt \ 2003-01-21.txt \ 2003-01-22-raw.txt \ 2003-01-22.txt \ 2003-01-23-raw.txt \ 2003-01-23.txt \ 2003-01-24-raw.txt \ 2003-01-24.txt \ 2003-01-25-raw.txt \ 2003-01-25.txt \ 2003-01-26-raw.txt \ 2003-01-26.txt \ 2003-01- < 1361901870 209258 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361901875 399245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1361901877 146160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastelogs < 1361901878 312973 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ \ pasterandom() { \ if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then \ echo "No." \ exit \ fi \ for i in $(seq "$1"); do \ file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \ done | paste \ } \ \ if [ "$1" ]; then \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ < 1361901882 865190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should do what you want < 1361901884 516119 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck is shuf there? < 1361901885 185469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/pastelogs < 1361901886 791918 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/pastelogs < 1361901893 21374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you read the script you will see < 1361901902 47787 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I don't < 1361901903 937640 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff -u bin/pastelog{,s} < 1361901905 279001 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--- bin/pastelog 2013-02-26 18:01:52.000000000 +0000 \ +++ bin/pastelogs 2013-02-13 16:28:35.000000000 +0000 \ @@ -16,7 +16,7 @@ \ if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \ pasterandom "$1" \ else \ - lines=$(timeout 25 grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | head -n 301) \ + lines=$(grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt < 1361901910 294329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well read more closely then < 1361901911 351901 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand < 1361901911 519552 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1361901911 854757 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Humbling" to "Limping" < 1361901915 829704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/pastelogs < 1361901916 843953 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1361901923 992485 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the script does anything that is not grepping the logs < 1361901951 195848 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1361901953 93881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs 120 < 1361901953 583640 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs horizontal < 1361901957 867268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that ^ < 1361901970 790881 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ununixy < 1361902015 851295 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.2874 < 1361902023 904209 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14865 < 1361902054 397721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what is unixy is just using grep yourself < 1361902056 597264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a convenience script < 1361902168 364059 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff --suppress-common-lines bin/pastelog{,s} < 1361902173 80675 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :19c19 \ < lines=$(timeout 25 grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | head -n 301) \ --- \ > lines=$(grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | head -n 301) < 1361902187 342030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, they're not symlinked? < 1361902189 822799 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame Gregor < 1361902206 558899 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/pastelogs && ln -s pastelog bin/pastelogs < 1361902210 591406 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361902616 699547 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361902673 571520 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the probability of an event A to occur is p, then the probability of it occuring n-times in a row decreases < 1361902688 119545 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, as in the above case: If the probability of event A is zero < 1361902710 146854 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean that it appearing once is as much likely as it appearing 1mio. times in a row? < 1361902716 679276 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that also wrong? < 1361902754 332863 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361902755 437520 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's right? < 1361902759 416115 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true, but you missed the other corner case: If the probability of an event A occurring (within some timespan) is 100%, then the probability of it occurring n times in a row does not decrease, it's also 100%. < 1361902775 91447 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 50*4.361 < 1361902776 744885 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 218.04999999999998 < 1361902797 330408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, well it does decrease if you use the non-strict definition < 1361902800 221697 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, but that edgecase seems more natural. < 1361902826 681774 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would assume that something very unlikely to happen twice in a row would be even less unlikely < 1361902851 646397 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you define "as likely" as meaning "having the same probability", then yeah. < 1361902864 693766 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361902867 794379 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I wouldn't quite assume that it wouldn't be even less likely for the event to happen twice in a row. < 1361902870 563186 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That assumes, by the way, that P is independent. < 1361902874 748396 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, you didn't say 'very unlikely' < 1361902878 59709 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said 'impossible' < 1361902886 729522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probability 0 is not impossible Phantom_Hoover < 1361902888 843522 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., there are some events which are more probable to happen twice than once. < 1361902893 146194 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If an event is impossible, then the occurrence of the event twice in a row isn't double impossible. It's just plain impossible. < 1361902905 513135 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm aware that p = 0 does not mean it's impossible. < 1361902912 454972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how dangerously nonconstructive of you < 1361902914 199340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i said Phantom_Hoover < 1361902922 203776 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I thought the probability of all events should be zero < 1361902934 730529 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear, are we playing with infinitesimals >_> < 1361902940 54602 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sum_{i=0)^{infinity}(1/infinity) is not 1 < 1361902949 753123 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to the math I know. < 1361902959 869784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :toot < 1361902961 758577 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the actual confusing part. < 1361902979 421107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, what even is that notation < 1361902989 397212 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pseudo-LaTeX. < 1361902993 464981 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX < 1361902998 443304 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you ignore the wrong bracket ;) < 1361903001 232972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait right < 1361903012 399322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it depends on what you mean by infinity < 1361903014 156706 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo cauchy distribution < 1361903018 764380 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really latex in that you don't want / or infinity there < 1361903023 347146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "sum" < 1361903033 535753 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best distribution < 1361903034 889705 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361903038 814597 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX would be \infty < 1361903038 828482 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, "infinity" doesn't have one single definition. < 1361903039 9778 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/infinity isn't well-defined in the context you're probably thinking of < 1361903050 775452 :nooga!~nooga@public-gprs534110.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361903067 321710 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's *usually* defined as that one element of the extended real numbers. < 1361903084 683035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly you can say sum_0^n 1/n approaches 1 as n goes to infinity < 1361903085 50785 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case 1/infinity is 0, and so the sum from 0 to infinity of 1/infinity is also 0. < 1361903099 271077 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also do that, in which case you'd end up with 1. < 1361903110 88084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergo 0 = 1 < 1361903128 387375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dibs on the paper < 1361903153 441798 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1361903159 157402 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually elliott, you do the paper < 1361903162 715418 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let elliott's number = 0. Let elliott's number = 1. By symmetry of equality, 0 = elliott's number. By transitivity of equality, 0 = 1. < 1361903183 94312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1361903185 991081 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361903186 243575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horde of angry mathematicians will have a harder time lynching you < 1361903212 913554 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true, scots die easy < 1361903250 538310 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not True Scotsmen. < 1361903281 614398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean if they actually find you they can just wring your pale, stick-like english neck without much trouble < 1361903289 453031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who even knows where hexham is, really < 1361903302 152701 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.65.84.0/24. < 1361903318 57593 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could just destroy the British isles *shrugs* < 1361903367 988066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the implication that scots aren't pale. < 1361903371 261066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :REMINDER: you get no sun? < 1361903443 779024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but they stay out in it several hundred percent of the time < 1361903465 163915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to make their insults slightly more effective < 1361903481 998741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that is just because they do not have houses. < 1361903486 558210 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361903512 381080 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that's so it's harder to lynch us < 1361903516 421530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be silly, who'd go without a house just to make their insults slightly more effective? < 1361903520 595709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover's explanation is much better < 1361903522 192032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :harder to jury-rig a gibbet < 1361903526 115265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you suggesting Scots are rational. < 1361903540 939819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you suggesting they're transcendental? < 1361903544 525540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I never said it was voluntary! < 1361903556 819134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :could *you* build a house in the wasteland that is Scotland? < 1361903589 806370 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361903593 278904 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361903601 271285 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tell me elliott how did that whole harrying of the north thing work out for you guys < 1361903605 437040 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361903619 768169 :nooga!~nooga@public-gprs534110.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361903626 873846 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least we never got laid waste by the french < 1361903667 539627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you can point to the past all you like if it helps distract you from how awful scotland is in the present < 1361903693 937953 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :RRRRIGHT MAIT < 1361903705 572613 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up nooga_, everyone hates poland < 1361903725 777225 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's adorable when North Britain and South Britain argue. *sips high fructose corn syrup directly from the jug* < 1361903747 126894 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least we don't have to eat haggis < 1361903748 177858 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so elliott how many leading figures in functional programming live in northumberland then < 1361903754 403405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: um poland is at least 50x better than scotland < 1361903760 925851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now you've done it < 1361903766 437998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. me < 1361903768 569284 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PART :#esoteric < 1361903768 630846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. taneb < 1361903775 342457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. me, 4. me, 5. me, < 1361903784 441377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, we'll just have to make do with conor mcbride and edwin brady then < 1361903791 608314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: this is more north england versus scotland < 1361903796 214017 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :phil wadler < 1361903796 662967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just chipping in with absurd comments < 1361903803 208037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, we're all jealous of the newcastle haskell compiler < 1361903810 751587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_: he is in northumberland? < 1361903827 452754 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm.... no, Edinburgh < 1361903839 288689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1361903840 258958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: just because they're on a humanitarian mission to educate scotland's poor, deprived youth doesn't mean you can hold them up as examples < 1361903841 95846 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The joke was that Americans don't understand British geography. < 1361903843 288064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the edinburgh haskell compiler sucks < 1361903860 393109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: those people would have said England, though, not Britain < 1361903866 431725 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snaps* < 1361903869 26542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and we really wish we'd come up with lancaster prolog < 1361903872 289349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke doesn't work if you acknowledge there's a difference < 1361903892 748045 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it help if I said "Britland"? < 1361903893 442027 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did something dangerous when in Edinburgh < 1361903894 641672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you... even know Prolog. < 1361903898 842072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i couldn't keep focusing it on northumberland because i ran out of significant places in northumberland) < 1361903900 770705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: perhaps < 1361903913 412791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, remember that it class i bitched about endlessly back when i first joined < 1361903924 241605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there's Morpeth < 1361903926 290073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph all i remember about you is a continuous stream of complaints < 1361903929 69891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I remember them all < 1361903935 838142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: erm... let's not get into Morpeth < 1361903937 308680 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said that i'm in england when i was in scotland < 1361903939 925830 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuu < 1361903944 358747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it that bad? < 1361903947 26753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyway after we finished with javascript on ie5 for mac we moved on to prolog < 1361903957 340539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only know about Northumberland because of BlogNomic < 1361903963 281778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know nothing about Morpeth but I think it was pretty funny to say that anyway < 1361903965 953854 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i'll ever again see such depths of non-understanding < 1361903984 453484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so Morpeth's distinguishing feature is that people pretend to know something about it < 1361903992 147118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like… monads < 1361903998 246961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like Morpeth < 1361904012 825463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love morpeth, it is so easy < 1361904031 455765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: my department teaches prolog, to second years I think < 1361904044 538071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people choose it because it isn't ocaml, and then are disappointed to find it has lists < 1361904044 600154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so have the americans had their election or not < 1361904045 121456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ' Much like Morpeth.' >> wisdom/monads < 1361904049 393378 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361904050 984516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly have forgotten < 1361904063 815225 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1361904066 250377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obama's second term, I Think < 1361904066 602816 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1361904068 477831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*think < 1361904072 27337 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newlines, i guess? < 1361904076 950094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to remember who he beat < 1361904078 179302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who did he actually run against again < 1361904080 168384 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it that romney guy < 1361904084 639051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's right < 1361904087 234246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was romney < 1361904087 787684 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :who codes ocaml anyway < 1361904089 169824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok goo dto know < 1361904098 931888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION challenges the americans here to remember who lost in the most recent UK general election
< 1361904099 488651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Phantom_Hoover: my department teaches prolog, to second years I think some people choose it because it isn't ocaml, and then are disappointed to find it has lists < 1361904102 784187 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :971) Phantom_Hoover: my department teaches prolog, to second years I think some people choose it because it isn't ocaml, and then are disappointed to find it has lists < 1361904112 948534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: humanity < 1361904122 869006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually I was pretty happy with the result < 1361904126 465578 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the lib dems < 1361904132 554608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: haha < 1361904133 773591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: haha :) < 1361904139 232864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that is just more evidence you're not human < 1361904158 679434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how many foreigners will get the joke
< 1361904165 379910 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1361904167 109052 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1361904169 277290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's add it to the qdb < 1361904179 139580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * ais523 challenges the americans here to remember who lost in the most recent UK general election ais523, the lib dems < 1361904182 735410 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :972) * ais523 challenges the americans here to remember who lost in the most recent UK general election ais523, the lib dems < 1361904188 647057 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ais523 challenges the americans here to remember who lost in the most recent UK general election // you could challenge me to remember who WON in the most recent UK general election, I'd do no better. < 1361904190 100692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way we will get a good amount of data on who gets it or not over time < 1361904197 12263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: also the lib dems < 1361904199 170980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I can't even remember who the leader of Labour is < 1361904206 599944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :milipede guy < 1361904207 355038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because both the possibilities have similar names and look identical < 1361904213 335810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or nearly so < 1361904214 148618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed centipede < 1361904221 211017 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored. < 1361904222 640695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I guessed the wrong one as well < 1361904225 901932 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ed Centipede < 1361904226 298305 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361904228 427619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: of /this/ conversation? < 1361904229 467574 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me design a brainfuck cpu < 1361904233 718686 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If my name was Ed Centipede, I'd run for public office. < 1361904234 6159 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Generally :) < 1361904244 580374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's not his actual name, unfortunately < 1361904263 593545 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1361904287 339128 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric welcomes its new prime minister, Ed "Brainfuck Derivative" Centipede | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1361904287 658302 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here < 1361904288 83562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one did ais523 guess? < 1361904297 290127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: david centipede < 1361904318 868416 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, how much brainfucky it can be with 256 Byte of RAM < 1361904357 469854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: just make the bytes infinitely large < 1361904399 115758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what hardware architecture are you targeting to make this CPU? even small FPGAs have more than 256 bytes of RAM < 1361904407 276098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, of memory < 1361904416 599775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones that have RAM have RAM < 1361904426 780342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them have memory where you sort-of decide how random the access is < 1361904455 446522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random acts of access < 1361904456 657678 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1361904527 985756 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need a language in which each memory cell holds a map N -> {0,1}, interpreted as the decimal expansion of a number that is allowed to be infinite on the left. < 1361904554 502633 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where every possible memory cell value is the address of a memory cell. < 1361904571 749504 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1361904579 589120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note that elliott deftly steered the discussion away from how superior scotland is < 1361904595 408940 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're allowed to perform an infinite loop in one step, as long as it never overwrites a 1 with a 0. < 1361904601 130497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it just gets so sad hearing a scot try to pretend he's alright < 1361904604 982447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only handle so much at a time < 1361904611 54495 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're just never allowed to overwrite a 1 with a 0 ever. < 1361904678 685455 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'pretend he's alright' man you english are terrible at your own language < 1361904726 194370 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's why all the greatest writers in the english language were scots < 1361904742 800074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO: the best cooks? < 1361904752 438825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph my english was perfectly fine < 1361904815 697392 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if i'd trust an englishman to know that < 1361904855 301489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU STOLE OUR LANGUAGE < 1361904856 510475 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ < 1361904875 350655 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you just stole it from the germans < 1361904922 694279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to work out if this is technically racism
< 1361904923 250951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm going to have to demand you kick Phantom_Hoover. < 1361904923 435919 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't a better insult be "well the french gave it to you" or something < 1361904938 144774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but I like the French < 1361904946 899565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more evidence ais523 isn't human < 1361904949 790924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I think I potentially like far too many people < 1361904963 3944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, oh that's much better, thanks < 1361904978 323169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: stealing your jokes from americans of all people < 1361904985 261096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also known as: the least funny people in the universe < 1361904992 354691 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er Bike is from luxembourg < 1361904994 652364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the americans have humor, not humour < 1361904996 227988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's different < 1361905007 723498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: luxembourg's in a UTC-8 timezone? < 1361905014 137803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parts of it. < 1361905015 842263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :american luxembourg < 1361905031 349677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like american samoa I guess < 1361905045 215150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well the americans still saved your asses in world war 2!! < 1361905049 891368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2" < 1361905052 976815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :world war 2.0 < 1361905056 978380 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As did the Luxembourgish, I might add. < 1361905061 105709 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels safe in his halfway-existing Canada
< 1361905068 721178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this is what happens when Conor McBride has to teach you history because you don't have any other teachers < 1361905074 678219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I had to check your nationality when you said that < 1361905077 764001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do a double-take < 1361905086 217089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you mean the Luxembourgeoisie < 1361905093 54023 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were swiss boily... < 1361905095 402503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND WITH THAT PUN I HAVE WON THE ARGUMENT < 1361905103 669677 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how ais checked my presented timezome to see where i was < 1361905118 63411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the great thing is, I did that /before/ Phantom_Hoover said you were from Luxembourg < 1361905118 827266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys come on that was amazing < 1361905127 399684 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9/10 would be luxembourgianisie again < 1361905137 842987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: `? boily < 1361905141 662566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is in UTC-5 < 1361905145 123264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about edwin brady... < 1361905146 92216 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should invent a programming language that consists entirely of the nicks of people in here < 1361905152 285541 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as people join and part the language changes < 1361905152 669620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is reasonable for somewhere that doesn't exist that's in vaguely the same location as Canada < 1361905156 177759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: same person. < 1361905160 926172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1361905163 783354 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is Canadian or something. We are not sure about Canada's existence. < 1361905171 209935 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? freefull < 1361905172 785160 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull is either full of freedom or free of fulldom, we are not sure. < 1361905176 286923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. indubitable proof that I'm canadian. < 1361905176 943199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think we've established that Ottawa exists < 1361905181 224774 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1? bike < 1361905182 56195 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite surprising that with our one teacher we still have an education system which isn't hopelessly broken < 1361905183 386513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we're less clear on the rest of Canada < 1361905184 952932 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bike < 1361905190 311835 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1361905192 960668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: when did that happen? < 1361905194 130235 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1361905213 777309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: quite recently, but I forget exactly when < 1361905297 767127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_United_Kingdom < 1361905299 2648 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: more teachers just means more arguments over how to teach. < 1361905307 515086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how a third of this is in ireland < 1361905330 215994 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by orangemen or of orangemen or wait i don't care < 1361905349 355442 :sirdancealot7!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1361905349 532966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both and neither, i should think < 1361905354 25153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's not really something to like, if those massacres hadn't happened there'd have been fewer massacres < 1361905361 879039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and massacres are generally considered a bad thing < 1361905373 953917 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 are you doing the whole overly literal thing again < 1361905387 259783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it starts in 61 AD < 1361905395 576883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's not really being overly literal, it's something else < 1361905398 656155 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh there are two different violent orangemen organizations there but they both use a red hand < 1361905401 368875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I interpreted the words exactly as you mean them < 1361905407 799279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just inferred something different from the sentence < 1361905412 203240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, welcome to northern ireland politics < 1361905421 374572 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are at least 3 different versions of any given organisation < 1361905428 253523 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rad < 1361905433 478466 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1361905440 226564 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more if they're republican < 1361905444 452486 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ira should use a red foot to fit in < 1361905448 417630 :nooga_!~nooga@public-gprs537524.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1361905472 692084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't something to joke about, seriously < 1361905486 139398 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i will attempt to write a roguelike in a purely functional manner < 1361905505 260426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am almost certain you have ignored jokes about more serious matters in the past, ais, so don't start getting all moral < 1361905506 151599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, you're probably safe because I've forgotten what that command is that kicks everyone else from the channel, clears all the channel modes, sets it invite-only, and invites you < 1361905519 564054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm kind-of an oblivious person < 1361905527 207660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether I start getting all moral really depends on how much attention I'm paying < 1361905539 238113 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does using the State monad count as purely functional? Sure, all the ... code is, but the style that do allows, it looks imperative even if it's all functional inside < 1361905546 49939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not really what the joke is about < 1361905566 22196 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, are you just trying to post kmcbait... < 1361905590 1546 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, although seems like the sort of thing kmc would rant about < 1361905604 264700 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you have to output state once in a while, but all functions just take the state and return a new one < 1361905608 625079 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I remember discussions along this line of thought before, at least reading such discussions < 1361905616 623733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: "C is a purely functional language" < 1361905629 288435 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines a cardboard box propped up by a stick with a pile of monads inside
< 1361905630 240165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Unlambda is a purely functional language, although it accomplishes that by redefining "purely functional" < 1361905662 894391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to add closures to INTERCAL once (just in the "mental specification" stage, I didn't write any code) < 1361905664 654731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't end well < 1361905667 24987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that is actually what Haskell is. < 1361905668 501032 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering words and phrases as meaning things is the path to ruin < 1361905684 265886 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is a purely functional language. It really does function. As a language. < 1361905701 122858 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp is an imperative language because it does stuff < 1361905717 360631 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp is an imperative language because it was designed by Kant < 1361905732 434507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how we successfully transitioned from Irish massacres to functional programming in ~7 messages < 1361905767 748580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I asked an electronic engineer whether a dog had Buddha-nature. His answer was 'high-impedance'. Now I just have more questions." < 1361905776 110534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :33 < 1361905777 380928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1361905777 630236 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not like i'm going to keep joking about a period of history where lots of people died for bad reasons if it's actually going to anger someone < 1361905801 279644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait I thought the idea of #esoteric was to anger ais523 as much as possible, all the time < 1361905814 345773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... have been thoroughly mislead < 1361905816 233127 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a newbie here elliott < 1361905821 483651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: intentionally angering ops is usually a bad idea < 1361905835 397641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well #esoteric is all about bad ideas < 1361905841 263998 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO: has anyone yet died over arguments about what "purely functional" means < 1361905842 681010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I hadn't thought of it that way < 1361905851 238867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmm < 1361905863 430591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I choose to misinterpret "over" as "directly above" because it's a more interesting question that way < 1361905870 168205 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair, fair < 1361905879 655478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do arguments about pure functionality happen? how often is it on the lower floor of a building < 1361905885 664283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it'd have to be a coincidence < 1361905892 267469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems like a coincidence that could plausibly happen < 1361905906 491340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/25/aaron-swartz-white-house-taxpayer-funded-wish_n_2758744.html whoah (sorry for huffpo link) < 1361905907 184824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditional sumo rings are made with packed purely functional dirt. < 1361905923 209835 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`I've heard a good argument that over meaning ab < 1361905924 292514 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: I've: not found < 1361905962 199772 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well how often do people die in buildings where people argue about programming < 1361905977 923781 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sweet < 1361905978 254175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what if it is like a university < 1361905987 33509 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard a good argument that over meaning about is descended from listener's reanalysis of over uses to mean above. < 1361905989 537882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, a university seems like a likely option < 1361905993 434116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a hotel that's hosting a conference < 1361906000 675578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right a big hotel is a good candidate < 1361906065 898785 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: you should put some quotation marks in that sentence in order to make it readable < 1361906100 830344 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No @FPGA < 1361906114 389975 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be a *real* Brainfuck CPU < 1361906187 496977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: you mean an ASIC? < 1361906198 258539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're generated from the same descriptions as FPGAs < 1361906203 513393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you may as well use one for prototyping < 1361906209 110754 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gabe Newell: "The programmers of tomorrow are the wizards of the future. You know, you're gonna look like you have magic powers compared to everybody else." < 1361906210 162744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hundreds of thousands of dollars cheaper < 1361906212 588706 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361906215 494994 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is esoteric < 1361906218 335812 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for developing one I would use an FPGA < 1361906305 648294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you are correct re: salt and vinegar pringles < 1361906329 739388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think FPGAs are used for development even by major companies < 1361906347 917711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: /me wonders what opinions or facts about salt and vinegar pringles might plausibly wonder verification < 1361906350 107720 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Glad you agree. < 1361906360 540162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they're created by aliens to destroy the universe < 1361906365 994577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do intel test their new x86 chips on fpgas < 1361906379 624223 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I observed that salt and vinegar Pringles are surprisingly good, having the ideal mix of potato and vinegar. < 1361906379 624474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems implausible to me but then what do they do < 1361906379 624583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll stay with my ketchup flavour. < 1361906379 624694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't know; I know some CPUs are < 1361906382 20368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure if that's true for very high-end CPUs < 1361906388 440368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ketchup flavour crisps are weird < 1361906388 458427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to requiring a prohibitively expensive CPU < 1361906390 483154 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Most salt and vinegar chips are more like vinegar and vinegar chips) < 1361906391 877691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for low-end ones, it makes sense < 1361906408 720946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well, I wasn't so much agreeing < 1361906417 93578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you stated they fnarfed well but I have no sense of fnarf < 1361906425 858010 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I remember a lot of chips get simulated on really huge FPGA arrays, like, dozens or more < 1361906433 114512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that would make sense < 1361906433 380828 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and? they taste good. < 1361906443 793440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although just wiring those together would be awkward < 1361906443 864012 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I remember hearing that a prototype cortex A9 (which was a pretty small chip) was a cube of FPGAs hooked up to an SD card for cache < 1361906447 618615 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ran at like 500khz < 1361906448 181016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably need to run them underclocked < 1361906451 382318 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck i read "chips" as meaning pringles < 1361906453 59542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the length of the connecting wires < 1361906455 831763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I'm imagining a room filled with FPGA s < 1361906459 399708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, 500kHz sounds about right < 1361906460 281734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like old gigantic computers < 1361906460 750008 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, they'd probably run like, 10000x slower < 1361906467 928502 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's actually companies that sell boards of these < 1361906470 416864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm told nvidia has a refrigerator size box of FPGAs for prototyping graphics cards < 1361906472 889929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hahaha < 1361906477 236677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :costs a few megabucks < 1361906487 77892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I was considering misreading that intentionally, but accidental is better < 1361906495 494838 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did y'all see nvidia's GTC video with water reflections and shit < 1361906502 163316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately the sentence makes no sense with that reading < 1361906511 435064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, link? < 1361906515 827533 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1361906528 740470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit sounds like a weird thing to simulate with a graphics card < 1361906539 286185 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ais523 < 1361906539 302664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"look at all these pretty water reflections, also here is some shit" < 1361906553 765965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thais523 < 1361906553 782261 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um6rMjwSNdU#t=255s < 1361906556 642555 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a refrigerator size box of real CPUs :-)
< 1361906563 727246 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like the end bit of his < 1361906581 773600 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where he's like "we can dump billions of $ into R&D for games. now what if we used the products for something remotely useful?" < 1361906597 500719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we do that at our university < 1361906602 926545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to teach the course but don't any more < 1361906612 876260 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the course on what < 1361906618 750123 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking money from games? < 1361906622 183801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing remotely useful things < 1361906625 366169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 isn't very good at it < 1361906628 87445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why he doesn't teach the course any more < 1361906629 501602 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did y'all see the PS3 demo of Kara. a nice retake on the classic accidental-singularity story < 1361906631 384972 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361906632 703950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks really incongruous seeing a technician going around a lab full of computers in a university < 1361906635 580388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with high-end gaming GPUs < 1361906638 831840 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1361906647 561247 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's kind of what he's saying, that GPUs are pretty useful otherwise < 1361906650 539149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in their original packaging, which is clearly aimed at gamers < 1361906658 423446 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, after showing off rendering crystalware getting shot in realtime < 1361906660 590110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the course on, mostly, GPU programming < 1361906719 430144 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, accidental-self-awareness i should say < 1361906719 448565 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so like OpenCL or whatever? < 1361906719 448738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hitechglobal.com/Boards/MultiFPGA.htm oh I think I found one < 1361906719 448844 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks cool < 1361906719 448955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, we were using CUDA but OpenCL is the same sort of thing < 1361906768 495637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow < 1361906831 418076 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 'and i am entirely at your disposal as a sexual partner' great < 1361906851 989918 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cool, right? < 1361906869 531662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361907057 25221 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361907089 162794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what is that < 1361907106 187613 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is what < 1361907126 902836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant re quintopia < 1361907134 151486 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the kara thing < 1361907137 857027 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhoYLp8CtXI < 1361907145 163515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I want to click < 1361907190 203854 :linuxnewb2!~dfg232@unaffiliated/linuxnewb2 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1361907225 217652 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's fine < 1361907231 802550 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a short film < 1361907376 971570 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361907379 138042 :linuxnewb2!~dfg232@67.159.60.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361907460 701672 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1361907640 275558 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1361907645 510631 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1361907645 612883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1361907665 770302 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, leonard nemoy ends all his tweets with "LLAP" < 1361907682 689858 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-242-16.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :lick dong and grope her? < 1361907693 825202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1361907701 888017 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-242-16.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIVE LONG AND PROSPER < 1361907702 671155 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Alright, thanks. I'll do that once I got the interpreter working... < 1361907718 208389 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361907829 828946 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the twitter form of that should be #livelong #prosper < 1361907868 769861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd only want one hashtag, really < 1361907873 811086 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-242-16.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prosper? I hardly know her! < 1361907880 664439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, are hashtags are inspired by IRC channels? < 1361907885 699268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have asiilar purpose < 1361907888 855462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a similar < 1361907946 489616 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hashtags are like macro's in C++: don't use them < 1361907955 621049 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*macros < 1361907978 446545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION searches #define on Twitter
< 1361907986 442143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck #define < 1361907987 260784 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1361907995 606846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it not have a search page < 1361908001 666444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its homepage is a login screen < 1361908002 597707 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361908015 699069 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1361908030 559741 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the Wikipedia article implies that htey are. < 1361908035 167145 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :#if probably has a higher chance of existing than #define < 1361908062 367920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: yeah but #define does macros < 1361908104 34223 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: #if checks if a macro is defined? That's using macros too right? < 1361908120 882695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: no, #ifdef does that < 1361908125 473261 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361908129 304939 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#pragmas all the way down! < 1361908131 478504 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :":info:build ld:ld : warningwarning: directory '/lib' following -L not: directory '/ found" < 1361908131 864294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#if checks the truth value of a boolean expression < 1361908146 995036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: using unbuffered output? < 1361908149 256117 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when ld ld gives warningwarnings. < 1361908156 177660 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I have no idea. < 1361908171 522149 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that sounds right. < 1361908186 152152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were the original interleaved messages? < 1361908193 640280 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: alright < 1361908196 220759 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1361908394 122278 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-81.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1361908750 55267 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :#howdoihashtag < 1361908915 614977 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a friend (preferably a good one, but not too good), a tennis racket, and a few pints of kerosene. < 1361908922 296666 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361909118 509663 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and gerbils < 1361909255 257559 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: am i your friend (good, but not too good)? < 1361909255 316568 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-242.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2010/3 < 1361909256 991037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 670.0 < 1361909376 874838 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you are. < 1361909417 452313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is kerosene the same thing in the US as it is in the UK? < 1361909472 289725 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. for me it's what goes in airplanes. < 1361909483 587447 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently kerosene is the american term, according to wikipedia you might call it paraffin < 1361909484 958787 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it is the most-efficient oil derivative in terms of power < 1361909510 868505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh right < 1361909570 794507 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in swedish it's "fotogen" < 1361909668 341501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that generates photos? < 1361909678 382509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like something that would mean "generating light" < 1361909694 803629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, indeed < 1361909705 358720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :paraffin lamps used to be common < 1361909714 339163 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :paraffin means wax to me < 1361909714 936481 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be swedish for the photo gene, but I think it comes from its use in lamps < 1361909733 653336 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. thanks to standard oil :) < 1361909763 765348 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :paraffin means that cheap stuff used in cheap chocolate. < 1361909773 882800 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and...who was it? carnegie was steel, vanderbilt was trains, ....damn i'm so bad at history < 1361909803 271778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah rockefeller < 1361909804 767370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1361909805 555069 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheap chocolate is made from kerosene? < 1361909824 208778 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :rockefeller is responsible for kerosene's use in lamps < 1361909919 830972 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@195.182.194.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361909934 941088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: http://homecooking.about.com/od/cookingfaqs/f/faqparaffin.htm < 1361909995 84211 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the toxicity section for kerosene is really disappointing though < 1361910015 306884 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ingestion is "harmful or fatal", end of story < 1361910025 749968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. disappointing indeed. < 1361910029 973042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: probably not enough people have tried to have reliable data < 1361910056 586776 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is my writhing in furious agony? toxic substances nowadays... < 1361910084 91489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… if that's the case, I'm sort-of glad we don't have reliable data < 1361910125 957968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm sure we could get it < 1361910154 708548 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :all we have to do is build a time machine and go back in time to the 1930s and tell Goebbels and Goering that we really need that data < 1361910177 33158 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :really easy...except the first part < 1361910183 665189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, "sure" and "time travel", together in the same paragraph < 1361910184 345046 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, where's oklopol when we need him to sample hydrocarbons < 1361910199 850913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hopefully not where you can reach him < 1361910210 698687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is too valuable to be wasted on hydrocarbon experiments < 1361910223 877366 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S PERFECTLY SAFE. IT'S MADE FROM THE SAME STUFF YOUR CELLS ARE MADE FROM. < 1361910241 515588 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote petrol < 1361910243 264007 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :352) what would you ever need petrol for newsflash: it doesn't actually taste that good \ 353) [on petrol] oklofok: it's actually poisonous, so I advise against drinking it ais523, also contains benzene, my carcinogen of choice. < 1361910255 405461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog petrol < 1361910279 333366 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-09-24.txt:09:47:50: why are you making a decaf espresso orange juice with an infinite number of sugars in a petrol tanker with last year's milk for #arianne? < 1361910295 226837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should `pastlog more often :) < 1361910303 938081 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A guy around here keeps getting fined for drinking petrol straight from the pump. < 1361910307 706266 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361910314 259116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: what? < 1361910316 925952 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does pastlog do? < 1361910324 196473 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does it search the logs in chronological order to find the oldest reference? < 1361910327 721707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: a random line containing the word you give that isn't from today < 1361910330 59654 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361910333 146175 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cool < 1361910335 364556 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1361910337 89943 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog gasoline < 1361910351 174236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog chicken < 1361910352 2032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has several uses, but plugging random words into it is a good one < 1361910354 790198 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-12-06.txt:01:09:16: no thanks HackEgo < 1361910358 769213 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog twilight sparkle < 1361910359 990492 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-12-28.txt:04:39:01: Quadrescence, chicken < 1361910366 902893 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-23.txt:01:15:32: KAPLA, TWILIGHT SPARKLE, KAPLA < 1361910379 157440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog acciacatura < 1361910384 151306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I spelt that wrong < 1361910392 96519 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog pistacchio < 1361910395 682849 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-12-05.txt:16:50:32: so is acciacatura < 1361910401 235953 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910403 352225 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog heisenbug < 1361910405 668180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I spelt that wrong then, too < 1361910411 474016 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-03-27.txt:23:28:02: heisenbug! now you are talking my way! < 1361910412 532614 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1361910416 930182 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog pop-tart < 1361910426 552861 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-12.txt:06:49:02: though it's buttered toast and not a pop-tart < 1361910426 656573 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog spandex < 1361910435 87290 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910443 601111 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog spanking < 1361910451 474232 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-01-22.txt:23:09:51: oerjan: are you into leather? <-- er what, no. is that because i approved of your spanking comment? < 1361910454 565290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog Emplosions < 1361910467 568557 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-09-15.txt:12:06:22: Silly Emplosions looks a little too silly. < 1361910486 424266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog quarantine < 1361910490 106703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog bondage < 1361910493 940144 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-10-04.txt:04:32:37: * oerjan puts Sgeo|web in shouting disease quarantine < 1361910498 272301 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying out weird words? < 1361910498 742961 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-07-20.txt:04:43:49: funny, python feels more like bondage and discipline < 1361910501 158382 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1361910510 846807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont remember saying that < 1361910514 829412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: pretty much < 1361910519 679068 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog perl < 1361910520 844893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "think of a word, plug it into `pastlog" game < 1361910530 432428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a game now < 1361910534 748479 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, was that in approval of python or not? Hey I don't know your tastes so I better ask.. < 1361910536 743348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog acquiesce < 1361910538 576647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been at least once < 1361910540 581375 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-05-12.txt:03:01:18: !addinterp slashes perl http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/slashes.pl < 1361910543 612113 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. sadly ørjan isn't there to ask if, indeed, he is into leather. < 1361910546 558918 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910550 105726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1361910550 576191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: is it time for the usual "elliott is underage" joke? < 1361910556 202928 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should make it so you don't even have to put in a word < 1361910558 417617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys I'm not underage any more < 1361910561 583442 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1361910565 517659 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you sure? < 1361910570 766578 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we can use it as the new five times `quote game < 1361910571 87009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: good question < 1361910573 458356 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you mean pull a random word from dictionary? < 1361910573 809041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not exactly. General "sexual orientation" joke I think < 1361910582 524882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's just `log, but putting in random words gives you better lines < 1361910583 106835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog archaeology < 1361910585 310042 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: or a random line from the logs more likely < 1361910591 234113 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-10-30.txt:21:43:02: zzo38: ...Good luck with that, I think they were joking ;P < 1361910591 762019 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log < 1361910592 453110 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log < 1361910594 195785 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-05-11.txt:21:55:29: nah I just have a simple webpage < 1361910594 375932 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2004-06-27.txt:08:00:00: -!- clog has joined #esoteric. < 1361910606 386406 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog cvs < 1361910609 719987 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog quibble < 1361910615 369966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's worrying me how often the random words turn out to be nicks < 1361910617 180620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog scarf < 1361910617 890874 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2005-11-24.txt:13:06:59: let's see if i can retrieve source of jogl-demos with http://iki.fi/lindi/cvsweb-dump.pl < 1361910618 377500 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog harry potter < 1361910618 895541 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-01-09.txt:23:53:32: pikhq, well, her quibble was more that I had used it between sentences that weren't very logically connected. < 1361910620 239487 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log aardvark < 1361910632 232507 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog foible < 1361910635 281747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog epimorphism < 1361910639 525875 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing? < 1361910644 109957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog quanta < 1361910647 21752 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog aardvark < 1361910648 589424 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog die die die < 1361910651 607052 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910653 543898 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910653 760965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog wil wheaton < 1361910655 576115 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910663 825023 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is pretty lagged < 1361910669 980276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog `pastlog < 1361910670 20268 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910672 241417 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910672 987250 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a while to search logs < 1361910675 250707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's timing out because 5000 queries < 1361910683 316015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/over/ 5000 < 1361910686 32954 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910686 225065 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION innocently whistles
< 1361910687 735488 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, should use a more efficient representation then < 1361910690 917573 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910695 25446 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not over 9000, so we are all good < 1361910701 22258 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910701 921379 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910702 36572 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: then you rewrite it < 1361910704 78185 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs a SQL database. < 1361910704 246860 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: more efficient than flat files of plain text? unpossible! < 1361910707 948833 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910710 886672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog asterism < 1361910715 553694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remind me never to try humour in the presence of Vorpal < 1361910717 64538 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog No output. < 1361910717 804709 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog harry potter < 1361910719 609219 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs a full text search index < 1361910725 776836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you may have broken it < 1361910727 596541 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-03-30.txt:19:59:14: ASTERISM < 1361910733 247082 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog unpossible < 1361910733 512985 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-03-02.txt:13:37:43: No output. < 1361910735 676171 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-02-27.txt:00:51:29: i read the last harry potter like umm on sunday < 1361910738 503242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's catching on! < 1361910741 320238 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog aardvark < 1361910741 917118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, it's just badly out of order < 1361910743 720524 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-05-12.txt:16:14:29: ehird: Unpossible < 1361910749 344842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog aleatoric < 1361910750 567225 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-07-11.txt:05:48:02: Aardvark Wagon < 1361910752 39291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog automagical < 1361910756 547766 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog alimentary < 1361910765 20470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of a words < 1361910765 44607 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910766 189227 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-01-25.txt:23:33:35: it translates the PATH automagically < 1361910768 492411 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910774 29827 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is it just me, or is aardvark just a really funny word? < 1361910774 60416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog banana < 1361910777 803714 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's in order < 1361910778 660341 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog beautiful < 1361910783 384521 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-02-10.txt:19:25:28: => "abcbananaasd222di" < 1361910787 308152 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-07-15.txt:00:13:12: pikhq: I have a beautifully typeset The Metamorphosis. < 1361910793 660853 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog bisque < 1361910798 694252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog abaci < 1361910800 842315 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog bezoar < 1361910804 948118 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910805 281181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw, hilarious moment from #nethack: listen, if you want to edit ESR's work... go right ahead < 1361910806 873666 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, " 2010-07-15.txt:00:13:12: pikhq: I have a beautifully typeset The Metamorphosis." <-- really? < 1361910807 888476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog burundi < 1361910808 162173 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1361910810 512317 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-11-11.txt:22:51:51: Traditionally, Chinese abacii were hexadecimal. < 1361910812 172041 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-11-02.txt:22:35:29: bezoar < 1361910814 667410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you feeding in your entire dictionary < 1361910816 618761 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910829 414062 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: covering words in «b». < 1361910829 527939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /usr/share/dict < 1361910831 107791 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910831 309668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not about C-INTERCAL, I presume? < 1361910831 673813 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I've said bezoar? I wonder why I did that < 1361910835 949764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1361910839 125456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1361910839 504349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, it was about the NetHack guidebook < 1361910844 606273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: bezoar got a hit? wooooah. < 1361910849 423772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog zzo39 < 1361910854 307380 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog corundum < 1361910861 633184 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-02-10.txt:22:29:14: zzo39? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361910862 185215 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog bitcoin < 1361910867 304934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog django < 1361910867 715092 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-01-11.txt:11:01:46: As in an abbreviation of Corundum, :-) < 1361910869 888442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to annoy olsner) < 1361910872 486078 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-29.txt:17:47:50: the way it works is, if anyone manages to produce a history of every transaction ever, it becomes official, and they get a small bitcoin reward for doing os < 1361910875 368655 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-07.txt:21:40:46: 353) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something < 1361910895 53017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog hovercraft < 1361910905 27302 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-11-20.txt:13:17:09: Hi Taneb|Hovercraft. < 1361910908 776181 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog eels < 1361910910 772388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ais52[^3] < 1361910919 339947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ais532 < 1361910926 140154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog zebra < 1361910930 436237 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog lion < 1361910933 114463 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: speaking of django, there's a new movie out called something with django ... I expect it to be about web development < 1361910933 544563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog elephant < 1361910934 101884 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tooo many < 1361910937 4636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm pretty sure there have been some ais524 sightings < 1361910938 640741 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stoooooooop < 1361910940 457458 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910943 217393 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1361910943 909850 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910952 381146 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910952 981531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog tangent < 1361910954 395604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog eels < 1361910955 158739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it doesn't look like that from the adverts, but admittedly I haven't watched it < 1361910963 519274 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910966 663846 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ankeria < 1361910968 257185 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910969 781856 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361910973 800606 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog eels < 1361910979 524355 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-02-28.txt:21:25:55: Ah, but you see, intelligence is all about approximating the universe, and what better approximation to use than a tangent line? < 1361910982 435943 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-09-26.txt:12:54:07: A mantra: "tekken tekken virtua fighter / oh my brain feels so much lighter". < 1361910987 43622 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1361910988 435389 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-08-22.txt:00:12:24: minun ilmatyynyalus on täynnä ankeriaita < 1361910990 204154 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: me neither < 1361910990 721558 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-09-12.txt:04:25:57: Sometimes it feels to me as if I'm just being used. < 1361910999 452108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog é < 1361911006 578860 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog \ touché < 1361911013 894506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, who was kerlo? < 1361911015 526786 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361911015 930447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that as kerio < 1361911023 422534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thought "whoa, kerio was in #esoteric?" < 1361911032 40407 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the name kerlo < 1361911034 746750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's been speaking in the black tongue of finlandor. < 1361911038 696208 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: make it search for the word eels so that feels doesn't match < 1361911044 744409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog \beels < 1361911045 911196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo was tswett and tusho was elliott, or the other way around < 1361911050 871079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1361911053 832416 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-10-14.txt:04:50:35: My hovercraft is full of eels. < 1361911055 556133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a lojban name, or something < 1361911064 566845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there you go < 1361911067 253058 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1361911087 200924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oerjan was ais523 < 1361911109 385082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo this game is boring < 1361911112 559886 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was kerlo. < 1361911116 445997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's running out of steam < 1361911132 951880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly we don't have a /usr/share/dict/words < 1361911137 481583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to generate random words automatically < 1361911139 959027 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that was almost four years ago. < 1361911191 67625 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog pluto < 1361911200 844037 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-09-03.txt:18:34:21: It's also a bit further away, though, so I think it might have less of a gravitational influence. Still, at perihelion it seems to be closer than Pluto at aphelion. < 1361911225 308714 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder where zzo38 is < 1361911230 192296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: here, I think < 1361911240 159372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, < 1361911242 418989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote at Canada < 1361911243 899951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1361911244 6081 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :374) as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw quintopia: I am at Canada. < 1361911250 373720 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :founda < 1361911255 907769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at? < 1361911272 453163 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you didn't know he was at Canada? < 1361911278 753918 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty common knowledge here now < 1361911283 150625 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can't find a reference online... It was in one of the local paper. He would just turn up at the petrol station, slash the pipe and drink direct from the pump. < 1361911292 675195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: and is still alive? < 1361911299 607559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably people had to keep stopping him < 1361911301 559709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 50 < 1361911305 529980 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bay cir ruf mirb morao incus orgonnat belle maile halshin possim especita bottoa prespe fait uncl sete oscordeclaship willin runt hijk eing ohi bir jaul < 1361911316 310330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs /usr/dict/words < 1361911316 387766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you and your real, tangible world! don't you forget some of us here are not as solid and material as you are! < 1361911324 512039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with `words is that they tend not to have been spoken < 1361911325 592567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+/share < 1361911331 867569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity! < 1361911410 242415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog wensleydale < 1361911418 618880 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361911421 295371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog wensleydale < 1361911424 745116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if boily was thinking of that reference when he said that
< 1361911430 772017 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361911441 217056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I thought of another command by analogy to `list < 1361911444 200548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure of the name yet < 1361911445 748663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use it < 1361911451 416081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all it does is tell you if it's been used recently < 1361911456 67261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you know it would be very helpful if HackEgo gave a different response on timeout than on ordinary lack of output < 1361911583 23840 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, c++: bool* board[1][1]; board[size][size] = { nullptr }; < 1361911586 501624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(size is 5, btw) < 1361911665 644952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this something to do with bool acting weird? < 1361911677 836067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just really bad code < 1361911689 655216 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one who wrote that wants to know why it's not working < 1361911729 457316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I have bagels I will cut a notch in it. Do you? < 1361911738 987228 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, might as well give you all the code: http://ideone.com/W6Ev77 < 1361911792 511337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh < 1361911801 562971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant that that somehow assigned 5 to size < 1361911804 863912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in that bit of code there < 1361911814 125239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as it's C++, I thought that was plausible < 1361911931 63845 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: back from coffee. no, I wasn't thinking. < 1361911971 945787 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: still alive as far as I know. Couldn't find the article online, but found this instead http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5877824/Boy-drinks-petrol-to-become-Transformer.html < 1361912014 833386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: somehow I don't want to know :) < 1361912031 235563 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: you know it would be very helpful if HackEgo gave a different response on timeout than on ordinary lack of output // TOO BAD < 1361912139 337589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : U.S. researchers have succeeded in re-animating a dead sparrow. < 1361912151 376803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently by fitting a robot inside it < 1361912173 126273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got destroyed by some actual sparrows < 1361912286 219370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's new. didn't know jack about that. < 1361912305 766866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pun attempt? < 1361912326 847315 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION silently drinks his coffee. very silently.
< 1361912874 404595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's _your_ resources that get used because i redo commands when i'm not sure if they really should have no output. hth. < 1361912967 429944 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1361912979 850699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly i guess i misuse your resources more for other reasons.) < 1361913078 728749 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-26.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1361913078 782996 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-26.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1361913078 783061 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361913621 241677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm translating it into C <-- what, but you need bignums... < 1361913651 810996 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :gmp has bignums for C < 1361913665 641553 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361913673 719132 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :big gnomes < 1361913676 924632 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm using gmp < 1361913679 434967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1361913697 579792 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I've done it all except for run' and parseSK < 1361913822 120330 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you making an esolang? < 1361913848 320512 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not right now, no < 1361913866 764676 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else are you doing with gmp, run and parseSK? < 1361913877 487535 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ridiculous SK-calculus interpreter < 1361913931 315770 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even make a SK calc interpreter ridiculous < 1361913957 764215 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By encoding it into positive integers first < 1361913961 262099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://hpaste.org/83052 is a demonstration hth < 1361913978 76438 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i have a textbook that does that < 1361914004 563188 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the same way as me? < 1361914010 621099 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha no < 1361914017 761588 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitstrings ofc < 1361914038 579054 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's cool about mine is it makes literally no assumptions about how integers are implemented < 1361914042 970927 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361914045 34728 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1361914048 526820 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1361914059 861774 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, it doesn't have to be bitstrings < 1361914074 203748 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be roman numerals for all I care < 1361914079 146877 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the bits doesn't mean the implementation of integer has to be anything related to bitstrings < 1361914090 591196 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what he said. < 1361914098 970050 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, true < 1361914121 697022 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially considering that the bitstrings were implemented as linked lists of SK combinators) < 1361914167 887832 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like you should use godel encoding < 1361914171 884764 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for maximum stupid mathiness < 1361914191 178384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: isn't that just "put the program in a file"? < 1361914196 143730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I think I am < 1361914198 925432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we use gödel encoding all the time < 1361914203 336743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does eval() do, for instance? < 1361914209 524558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an argument could be made that we should use it less < 1361914218 902212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it refers to a _specific_ encoding. < 1361914224 766206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait I should be letting oerjan do this for me < 1361914235 820339 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean the thing with primes. < 1361914242 852648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I thought the original proof didn't care about the specifics of the encoding < 1361914244 725388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hmm < 1361914251 147757 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't, i don't think, but it's what he used? < 1361914262 164586 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4,7,3] = 2^4 + 3^7 + 5^3 and so on < 1361914296 979985 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2328. nice and inefficient < 1361914332 818218 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it be 2^4 times 3^7 times 5^3? < 1361914340 371536 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1361914342 100876 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :durr. < 1361914345 156821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^4 * 3^7 * 5^3 < 1361914346 922515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4374000 < 1361914369 372392 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think the textbook might have used cantor pairing now that i think about it < 1361914379 445691 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should read it again and do more exercises to fix my incompetence a bit < 1361914425 941475 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i like that you mentioned implementation dependence after clarifying the C library you had to be using :3 < 1361914443 826228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : wait I should be letting oerjan do this for me <-- but i'm lazy and also logreading < 1361914498 916821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i mentioned my idea of using a combination of bitstrings and fibonacci base? < 1361914505 331707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(long ago) < 1361914550 527315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, an arbitrary number in binary can be split into a list of numbers in fibonacci base separated by 1's. and this is a bijection. < 1361914603 53907 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a prefix code < 1361914606 344561 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, algorithm isn't program < 1361914614 788695 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361914632 265777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well it's meant to be a bijection between naturals and finite length lists of naturals < 1361914634 809238 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind the fact that in both implementations that currently exist are entirely dependent the same implementation < 1361914649 987442 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes and C doesn't have integers anyway, i just thought it was funny < 1361914652 452966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there may have been subtle details about it. < 1361914700 306058 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think very many algorithms particularly care about how integers are represented, though < 1361914705 919241 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it seems like a weird thing to have said < 1361914709 727127 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361914726 499358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: xor swap? < 1361914736 777880 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. radix sort? < 1361914743 358112 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I mean, I'm not using bitstrings at all < 1361914762 715889 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but you can use bitstrings regardless of how integers are represented. < 1361914779 292949 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1361914789 221265 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do you need for that? < 1361914807 72545 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia even goes through it with linear operator matrices, pff < 1361914834 921588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well you need things to be represented as bits to xor swap them < 1361914851 812777 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1361914857 867308 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can define bitwise xor on integers < 1361914865 583398 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with bases, fiora < 1361914912 312917 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361914919 500952 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so < 1361914930 199786 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean hey it might be slow as hell < 1361914934 994059 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is math! who cares right < 1361914948 903068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory has no < 1361914960 125248 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something < 1361914965 992721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1361914966 508336 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what went after that < 1361914973 372337 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elegantly stated, olsner < 1361914978 8780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something, olsner < 1361915013 731792 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something. < 1361915031 561563 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe algorithmic complexity? like X algorithm implemented with O(f(n)) requires some integer representation? < 1361915032 803610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what this channel is all about. intellectual discourse. < 1361915047 672479 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh sure < 1361915083 715184 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: long multiplication for an easy example. that's gonna be pretty fucking slow if you have to convert out of modular residues first < 1361915083 979232 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361915089 961986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well it wouldn't be xor swap if you went and simulated the xor < 1361915097 833544 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"simulated" < 1361915101 239875 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's simulating anything < 1361915101 691688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the point of xor swap is the number of instructions it requires < 1361915123 763601 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that's a program, not an algorithm" < 1361915126 387803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess the point is that the algorithm is defined in terms of what instructions it uses < 1361915128 448493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1361915132 502139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that seems possible < 1361915139 570580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's a program that exists in many assembly languages < 1361915159 320458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can define bitwise xor on integers <-- conway's nimber addition extends that even to transfinite ordinals < 1361915165 825955 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361915167 427048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a bit more general than just a single program < 1361915170 437077 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always wanted to xor swap transfinite ordinals < 1361915170 682271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yes < 1361915182 115282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what kmc is agreeing with
< 1361915182 370559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote i've always wanted to xor swap transfinite ordinals < 1361915183 982385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I smell an esolang < 1361915186 443774 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361915188 203060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: addquote < 1361915188 921030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i've always wanted to xor swap transfinite ordinals < 1361915193 84633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i remember < 1361915194 684550 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :973) i've always wanted to xor swap transfinite ordinals < 1361915204 227454 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so first i've got to do the linear operator thing and now this < 1361915216 570914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: linear as in linear logic? < 1361915224 57537 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no as in linear operators < 1361915235 216371 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361915241 489423 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's conway's nimber addition? < 1361915258 73296 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was really tired a few nights ago and was talking about a language where the only functions are infinite matrices < 1361915266 347415 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and elliott commanded me to make an esolang < 1361915269 571183 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can't like, disobey < 1361915271 382366 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Z2%5E4;_Cayley_table;_binary.svg hth < 1361915297 255070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can compute with transfinite ordinals to some degree right? < 1361915304 447373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it common to have a finite supply of files? < 1361915317 410144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Ordinal = Zero | Succ Ordinal | Omega | some other things < 1361915320 576894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far does that get you < 1361915320 864955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my situation at work is: I need to edit some files, and the webserver needs to be able to read them < 1361915322 35358 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think there are even software packages for fuckin' with 'em < 1361915331 684949 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1361915335 811873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I need to not be able to read arbitrary files that the webserver can read < 1361915344 910380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at the moment, the files have my user, and its group < 1361915354 360049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and group read permissions < 1361915364 347365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this allows me to modify them, but not to create new files < 1361915364 742217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh hm it's not actually conway's, he just generalized them to games and surreal numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimber < 1361915403 994841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has got into the habit of M-x set-variable backup-by-copying t
< 1361915434 952402 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: presumably you can get up to church-kleene? < 1361915593 469563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can compute with transfinite ordinals to some degree right? <-- yep, see Cantor normal form < 1361915611 327285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like base omega notation < 1361915661 713336 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361915716 973547 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-137-85.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361915744 377443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_normal_form#Cantor_normal_form < 1361915807 537379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog something.*something < 1361915809 822892 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to use ordinals as exponents in their own representation some times? awesome < 1361915817 96461 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-05-23.txt:21:55:22: And the idea of wanting something makes me want to do something else. :P < 1361915836 441503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/3/3/d/33d48c263ce795ad60a4505f58860913.png < 1361915839 355180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new favorite number < 1361915854 708922 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight < 1361915862 189387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is basically base ω? < 1361915872 242198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yep, also you can have omega^x = x which gives you the epsilon ordinals (which you then need to handle separately to distinguish them) < 1361915889 509536 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: except you have e.g. epsilon_zero = omega^epsilon_zero making things a bit trickier < 1361915917 420207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also this notation is how you prove goodstein sequences terminate < 1361915931 684288 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i suppose this is a bit more than peano eh < 1361915938 159301 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361915948 876205 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did remind me of hereditary base notation < 1361915953 600639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(peano cannot prove that the epsilons exist) < 1361915958 465922 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1361916000 456297 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only there was some way to define undefinable ordinals............. < 1361916011 757416 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1361916086 727140 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361916131 907478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think i linked this last time we discussed such things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_countable_ordinal < 1361916139 241525 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :already there~ < 1361916190 758447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think the problem with reaching church-kleene is you get some kind of analogy to the halting problem: you have enough notations but you cannot prove any given notation gives an ordinal < 1361916203 399791 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1361916243 686317 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(given that there are almost 7 more seasons of voyager, I suspect that *maybe* they don't all get home in episode 7) < 1361916268 681536 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other seven seasons just consist of wide-angle shots of the skies where voyager would have been < 1361916271 561434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess the introduction mentions that < 1361916308 455423 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olis < 1361916309 603904 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: olis: not found < 1361916310 471554 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`oliss < 1361916311 750941 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: oliss: not found < 1361916312 355865 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1361916313 347391 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf oerjan Sgeo < 1361916322 152997 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Larger and larger ordinals can be defined, but they become more and more difficult to describe." i love math < 1361916327 850111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: now i vaguely recall someone writing about the idea of publishing a book where they didn't bother to fill in all the pages < 1361916421 341807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's annoying? Emacs versions too old to have M-x visual-line-mode < 1361916433 6089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't mind versions sufficiently old that it isn't on by default, because I can just turn it on) < 1361916439 134724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes navigating in very long lines annoying < 1361916442 741367 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PART :#esoteric < 1361916471 726271 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-81.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1361916486 862392 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what a waste of pages < 1361916681 104881 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :saves ink though! < 1361916696 19457 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1361916699 313212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there was a joke in the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy < 1361916701 610815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about time travel grammar < 1361916711 740160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone wrote a book about it, but everyone got bored at around the same point < 1361916719 16057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they left all the pages after that point blank to save on printing costs < 1361916739 125796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah. i probably read that, but that's not what i was referring to. < 1361916763 409202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't remember where what he's referring to is from, though
< 1361916764 294847 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most readers get as far as the Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional before giving up; and in fact in later aditions of the book all pages beyond this point have been left blank to save on printing costs." < 1361916813 567279 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*editions. bad webpage i stole this quote from < 1361916851 161006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok today the sidebar of the previous page in oots looks right :P < 1361916912 54161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1361916914 369419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1361916919 896069 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb < 1361916940 905658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fails to see any way to interpret that as disapproval, also it's "hello" not "hi"
< 1361916982 872042 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does elliott have other modes of expression beyond disapproval? < 1361917000 98396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's more that "hi" as a non sequitur is a mark of disapproval < 1361917006 707971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think monqy started it < 1361917007 70698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1361917011 320559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hi < 1361917012 795720 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :6) His body should be given to science. He's alive :P Even so. \ 9) Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? not yet trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence \ 14) Finally I ha < 1361917019 310131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \bhi\b < 1361917020 770916 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :150) comex: what? *vorpal comex: hi, tab-complete completed c to comex instead of Vorpal, dunno why \ 207) [on Walter Bright] I went to chat with him after his talk at the ELC and he was like "hum, right - humans. How do they work again... oh, hi!" \ 729) Sgeo: I used to have strict requirements < 1361917039 474391 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've seen more shachaf asking monqy about disapproving "hi"s than disapproving "hi"s themselves < 1361917049 305159 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did monqy actually start it or did he just said hi once and everyone built a myth around it? < 1361917070 537584 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 729 < 1361917071 998502 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :729) Sgeo: I used to have strict requirements for when I said hi but then everyone started saying hi and it all got weird < 1361917093 242220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: he said it more than once < 1361917151 300549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started seeing hi as ominous in other circumstances as well ... someone starts an IM conversation at work with the word "hi", and you know it only goes downhill from there < 1361917159 996095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1361917167 910826 :cuttlefish!~cuttlefis@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1361917168 803457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi" on IM (or IRC PM) is quite a common "are you there?" < 1361917234 33697 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people I know usually just start with the actual question/message < 1361917301 491548 :impomatic!~digital_w@146.90.165.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361917349 779988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: for me it depends on what the actual question/message is < 1361917363 270396 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"since the Greek alphabet does not have transfinitely many letters it is better to use a more robust notation" < 1361917367 170366 :NuclearMeltdown!~rep@AntiLiberal-1-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net QUIT :Changing host < 1361917367 184165 :NuclearMeltdown!~rep@unaffiliated/antiliberal JOIN :#esoteric < 1361917398 166151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NuclearMeltdown the AntiLiberal < 1361917400 121155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good hostname < 1361917403 9406 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just a general case of people usually communicating because there's some problem they need help with, and "hi" just happens to be a common first communication < 1361917466 129413 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can still blame #esoteric for making "hi" sound ominous < 1361917482 969699 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can blame you for anything < 1361917513 374336 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Unrecursable” recursive ordinals <-- http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2011-mustang-talk/162030-who-would-win-race-warning-danger-manifold.gif < 1361917546 283297 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if this is one of those episodes where someone gets falsely accused and sentenced for some crime < 1361917567 782788 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@195.182.194.214 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1361917627 514300 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A distinctive characteristic of his logic classes was that in the middle of each class, a previously selected student would have to get up and tell a joke. The joke had to be short, funny, and inoffensive to receive credit." < 1361917693 85171 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that and mosshaired aliens < 1361917902 367408 :Taneb!~nathan@host-2-99-86-31.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1361917936 460590 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ? < 1361917938 688603 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(context?) < 1361917949 367494 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look up gerald sacks < 1361917967 495835 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no relation to oliver, i guess) < 1361918028 528292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good characteristic < 1361918084 201724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.math.harvard.edu/~sacks/sacks.html here is his "HyperMedia Plan File" < 1361918100 385268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :generated by Netscape on SunOS 5.8 apparently < 1361918101 328452 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of a mean class < 1361918165 277619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Would it help if I said "Britland"? <-- the land of the britneys and their fearsome spears < 1361918165 522727 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'd hate it < 1361918174 104463 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds silly in the worst way < 1361918204 906201 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Nice necromany bro < 1361918235 493109 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm surprised i've never seen an academic page telling me it's optimally viewed on Mosaic < 1361918257 689949 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you stole britland from me < 1361918258 152528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i forgot the britneys are dead < 1361918269 962550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I want to know is, do you have to invent the joke < 1361918275 403980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can you just give a good performance of an existing joke < 1361918286 6706 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends < 1361918288 687956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no, that's the whitneys. Gregor, you are confusing me... < 1361918291 26578 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the joke "the aristocrats" < 1361918310 35701 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "inoffensive" < 1361918311 216127 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no < 1361918505 181699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : OK, so Morpeth's distinguishing feature is that people pretend to know something about it <-- no it's distinguishable feature is that its name cannot possibly be real. < 1361918523 325994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's the capital of northumberland < 1361918531 486990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently has the most dangerous stretch of railway in the UK < 1361918538 981137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which, if you think about it, has to be /somewhere/) < 1361918547 68839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "morpeth" \\ "northumberland" < 1361918548 993764 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "p" < 1361918562 705769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "morpeth" \\ "northumberland capital" < 1361918564 512678 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "" < 1361918578 245698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, they just made up a name from letters in the phrase < 1361918603 649871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I going to have to visit Morpeth to determine its existence? < 1361918608 514967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd probably be quite expensive < 1361918611 335317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1361918612 501651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's at the far end of the country < 1361918621 824944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can send elliott or Taneb instead, I guess, they're a lot nearer < 1361918633 565876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you're in the middle, not in cornwall < 1361918642 305857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we could go to morpeth together < 1361918647 23850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be stornger evidence < 1361918651 225949 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ankh morpork a pun on morpeth < 1361918661 211965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we wouldn't be going there directly unless we were coming from the same place < 1361918663 185613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*together < 1361918663 508107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's the other way around < 1361918674 115125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise we'd be arriving there together, but not going there together < 1361918675 109868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, we could both go there < 1361918677 14242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then be there, together < 1361918712 542988 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be doing something together < 1361918719 870298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i'm not sure pratchett uses puns much for his place names? < 1361918721 834149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, "chatting in #esoteric" is also something < 1361918759 751 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, chatting in #esoteric is nothing < 1361919024 318041 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1361919027 448714 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense yes < 1361919044 962815 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone were to ask me what i'm doing right now, i'd say "shopping for health insurance" < 1361919048 916567 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i weren't doing that < 1361919051 192736 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nothing" < 1361919331 514211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no I forgot how awful the US's health system is < 1361919361 515609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :health insurance exists in the UK too, but because the government runs a free health service, the health insurers have to do a lot in order to offer value for money < 1361919380 833397 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what we lack in useful services we make up for with FREEDOM < 1361919403 801682 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FREEDOM to pay a lot for healthcare! < 1361919421 538157 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets loose a crying, anemic eagle
< 1361919475 937277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an example: a while ago I woke up on Sunday morning and discovere that one of my eyes was swollen, we went to an NHS-run clinic that was open on Sundays, they had a doctor look at it, (correctly) tell me what was wrong, prescribe some medicine, and let me know what shops would be able to sell the medicine to me that were open on Sunday < 1361919485 743152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the cost of the medicine was subsidized by the government < 1361919488 397521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but your FREEDOM < 1361919496 668839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagnosis was free, the medicine was less than £10 after the subsidy < 1361919522 31522 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help quote < 1361919522 134962 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1361919534 443512 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I add quote < 1361919539 601199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: `addquote < 1361919542 323939 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1361919546 653796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quotestyle < 1361919548 267649 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotestyle? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1361919561 460254 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`qdbformat < 1361919562 569875 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: qdbformat: not found < 1361919567 978940 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1361919569 700079 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1361919571 224447 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid everything < 1361919573 744559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? qdbformat < 1361919575 250099 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1361919589 544381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no fair doing that while I'm reading scrollback and so can't see recent messages < 1361919595 609700 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh do I have to add ;s? < 1361919604 268297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you don't < 1361919605 705878 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, no < 1361919606 362952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bit's misleading < 1361919610 182052 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just two spaces between messages < 1361919610 477367 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :double-spaces < 1361919619 653893 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Sgeo_, are you just trying to post kmcbait... *Fiora imagines a cardboard box propped up by a stick with a pile of monads inside. Fiora: that is actually what Haskell is. < 1361919619 791660 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also imo you should just add whatever and let whoever actually cares fix it < 1361919623 168785 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :974) Sgeo_, are you just trying to post kmcbait... *Fiora imagines a cardboard box propped up by a stick with a pile of monads inside. Fiora: that is actually what Haskell is. < 1361919630 659867 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you did it wrong < 1361919633 956591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1361919634 933142 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it will be deleted < 1361919637 812606 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-; < 1361919642 712230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tyranny of the qdb < 1361919657 396516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that quote < 1361919675 697206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, you want a space between * and Fiora < 1361919682 10126 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_> oops < 1361919684 252912 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I fix that < 1361919691 250268 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 974 < 1361919693 653017 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo quote < 1361919695 977055 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Sgeo_, are you just trying to post kmcbait... *Fiora imagines a cardboard box propped up by a stick with a pile of monads inside. Fiora: that is actually what Haskell is. < 1361919697 179271 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1361919697 192903 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote < 1361919698 548313 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1361919700 402419 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to stop < 1361919702 498570 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Sgeo_, are you just trying to post kmcbait... * Fiora imagines a cardboard box propped up by a stick with a pile of monads inside. Fiora: that is actually what Haskell is. < 1361919705 986428 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :974) Sgeo_, are you just trying to post kmcbait... * Fiora imagines a cardboard box propped up by a stick with a pile of monads inside. Fiora: that is actually what Haskell is. < 1361919715 467199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good command < 1361919717 886553 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cardboard box with read and blue pipes < 1361919720 262140 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote quote < 1361919721 681132 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :28) i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. \ 68) [Warrigal] `addquote hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows 'cuz it's pretty awesome. [Lawlabee] Warrigal: :( \ 69) Note that quote number 124 is not actually true. \ 77) let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystif < 1361919723 266586 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*red < 1361919743 156554 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might also have lead pipes < 1361919750 417123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :red led pipes < 1361919851 957914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION defines Tetris
< 1361919871 630032 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 77 < 1361919873 143760 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :77) let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future < 1361919933 690077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine quine < 1361919937 67561 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`quine quine < 1361919944 479137 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. let's put the quote about putting something in the quotes files in the quotes files to mystify us now? < 1361919956 365113 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine no < 1361919959 760458 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`quine no < 1361919981 625159 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 76 < 1361919983 7939 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :76) so a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.com might be self-relative, but a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com always means a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com.? < 1361919984 885945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quine race condition < 1361919986 362386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1361919988 223542 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1361920053 100209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo eniuq | rev | sh < 1361920056 528806 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`run echo eniuq | rev | sh < 1361920087 467199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quine | rev < 1361920090 546947 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ver | eniuq nur` < 1361920095 440572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"| sh" ? < 1361920115 31457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1361920124 98159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're running quine but encrypting its name < 1361920196 719922 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did the race condition thing happen < 1361920215 439522 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does `quine just echo back the last line sent to the channel? < 1361920224 551791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE < 1361920224 736063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that how domain names work? < 1361920233 417663 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty lame implementation < 1361920233 738051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no. < 1361920259 259304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1361920262 659119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps < 1361920264 113566 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ PID TTY TIME CMD \ 280 ? 00:00:00 init \ 282 ? 00:00:00 sh \ 284 ? 00:00:00 ps \ 285 ? 00:00:00 cat < 1361920270 551607 :Bike!~Glossina@63-229-134-7.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: on the flipside it's hilariously bad < 1361920290 259232 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: actually, it's the only way to get stuff like oerjan's encrypted call to work < 1361920299 634263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps | sed s'/ */ /g' < 1361920300 675235 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: Garbage option. \ ********* simple selection ********* ********* selection by list ********* \ -A all processes -C by command name \ -N negate selection -G by real group ID (supports names) \ -a all w/ tty except session leaders -U by real user ID (supports names) \ -d all except session leaders < 1361920302 294773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: `quine reads the logs and copies the last line < 1361920304 276453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps | sed s'/ */ /g' < 1361920305 615259 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ PID TTY TIME CMD \ 280 ? 00:00:00 init \ 282 ? 00:00:00 sh \ 284 ? 00:00:00 bash \ 285 ? 00:00:00 cat \ 287 ? 00:00:00 ps \ 288 ? 00:00:00 sed < 1361920313 514581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: wat. < 1361920317 480988 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i suppose it isn't the only way < 1361920336 621339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is the only way without modifying HackEgo's core code < 1361920356 992730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sed -e < 1361920358 838591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i was wondering if it would be possible to get the information out of ps instead < 1361920378 141902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no i was just missing `run < 1361920388 870969 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what are you trying to get out? < 1361920417 17392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the current HackEgo command line < 1361920441 904860 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm maybe < 1361920473 110334 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps | sed s'/ */ /g' < 1361920474 619568 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ PID TTY TIME CMD \ 280 ? 00:00:00 init \ 282 ? 00:00:00 sh \ 284 ? 00:00:00 bash \ 285 ? 00:00:00 cat \ 287 ? 00:00:00 ps \ 288 ? 00:00:00 sed < 1361920478 941831 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -e | sed s'/ */ /g' < 1361920480 268241 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ PID TTY TIME CMD \ 1 ? 00:00:00 init \ 2 ? 00:00:00 kthreadd \ 3 ? 00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0 \ 4 ? 00:00:00 kworker/0:0 \ 5 ? 00:00:00 kworker/0:0H \ 6 ? 00:00:00 kworker/u:0 \ 7 ? 00:00:00 kworker/u:0H \ 8 ? 00:00:00 cpuset \ 9 ? 00:00:00 khelper \ 10 ? 00:00:00 kdevtmpfs \ 11 ? 00:00:00 netns \ 12 ? 00:00:00 kworker/u:1 \ 45 ? 00:00:0 < 1361920500 180373 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -e | sed s'/ */ /g' | grep ps < 1361920501 533600 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 287 ? 00:00:00 ps < 1361920520 297471 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look promising < 1361920588 544125 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361920624 489454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -e | sed s'/ */ /g' | grep run < 1361920625 981745 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361920868 738361 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1361920871 594206 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -o cmd < 1361920872 829437 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CMD \ /init \ sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' 'bash' '-c' 'ps -o cmd' | cat \ ps -o cmd \ cat < 1361920936 109180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice jorb < 1361920959 545208 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what you were trying to do, hope that helps < 1361921032 196016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -o cmd | grep 'ps*' < 1361921033 576859 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' 'bash' '-c' 'ps -o cmd | grep '\''ps*'\''' | cat \ bash -c ps -o cmd | grep 'ps*' \ ps -o cmd \ grep ps* < 1361921047 244171 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -o cmd | grep "'ps*'" < 1361921048 516441 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361921056 646014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am terrible at regex < 1361921064 539066 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -o cmd | grep "\'ps*\'" < 1361921066 49865 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361921070 965700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo "ps -o cmd") >bin/psocmd; chmod +x bin/psocmd < 1361921074 631198 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1361921078 268240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`psocmd < 1361921079 668106 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :CMD \ /init \ sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' 'psocmd' | cat \ /bin/sh /hackenv/bin/psocmd \ cat \ ps -o cmd < 1361921156 330707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -o cmd | grep limits < 1361921157 753390 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' 'bash' '-c' 'ps -o cmd | grep limits' | cat \ bash -c ps -o cmd | grep limits \ grep limits < 1361921189 290711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -o cmd | grep 'lim[i]ts' < 1361921190 708829 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' 'bash' '-c' 'ps -o cmd | grep '\''lim[i]ts'\''' | cat < 1361921271 671713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -o cmd | grep 'lim[i]ts' < 1361921273 99514 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' 'LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8' '/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits' 'bash' '-c' ' ps -o cmd | grep '\''lim[i]ts'\''' | cat < 1361921437 550583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the limits one probably does an exec or something < 1361921448 250103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits < 1361921449 524631 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ ulimit -f 10240 \ ulimit -l 0 \ ulimit -u 128 \ exec -- "$@" < 1361921459 408500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1361921648 427826 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@186.222.62.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1361921651 253028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks complicated anyhow < 1361921893 881849 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.52.133 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1361922161 29683 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :clojure is actually pretty good < 1361922169 323671 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i like it < 1361922269 996766 :carado_!~carado@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:221:63ff:fe9a:3747 JOIN :#esoteric < 1361922640 899342 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1361922743 409806 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1361922894 975364 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1361923148 447034 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood