< 1365552156 767730 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1365554592 454908 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365554864 813553 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365554865 44051 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1365554865 44197 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1365555505 368833 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365555565 760178 :ssue_!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hvzifxwzeexyugbv QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365555758 553353 :lkr_java!~lkr_hack@187-5-171-229.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1365555769 999292 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365555806 799765 :lkr_java!~lkr_hack@187-5-171-229.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br QUIT :Client Quit < 1365555823 12189 :lkr_java!~lkr_hack@187-5-171-229.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1365555884 784860 :lkr_java!~lkr_hack@187-5-171-229.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck the polie < 1365555886 191553 :lkr_java!~lkr_hack@187-5-171-229.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365555888 198908 :lkr_java!~lkr_hack@187-5-171-229.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :police < 1365555889 266700 :lkr_java!~lkr_hack@187-5-171-229.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365555909 312354 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they pay you < 1365555910 820365 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1365555919 643 :lkr_java!~lkr_hack@187-5-171-229.fnsce704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br PART :#esoteric < 1365556142 193178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :["http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/" enterprise webscale brainfuck solutions] < 1365556242 975368 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be fun to program in a pattern matching language completely without the concept of sequences < 1365556271 619949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :define "concept of sequences" < 1365556305 617520 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you couldn't ensure that one thing happened before another < 1365556310 121969 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data List a = [] | Cons a (List a) or whatever < 1365556312 382430 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sequencing. < 1365556320 171862 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1365556334 74143 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are referring to haskell's pattern matching being left to right? < 1365556394 262420 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you don't use ~ patterns and treat variable patterns as matching everything except the other options you've already got that... < 1365556488 308732 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?????? ? ??? ?? < 1365556501 354480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, monqy. < 1365556509 493468 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bike < 1365556526 229447 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know haskell but I was thinking of the kind of pattern matching that string rewriteing languages do < 1365556551 737607 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Have you seen Thue. < 1365556554 503172 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see now that makes more sense < 1365556570 497863 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I have < 1365556579 96395 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have sequencing. < 1365556654 933380 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This segment type is reserved but has unspecified semantics." the heck < 1365556691 21729 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you could force sequenceing because the definitions themselves don't get rewritten < 1365556728 215619 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if rule b can't fire until rule a has modified the string < 1365556731 768102 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can force sequencing in getting a pattern to match only something produced by an "earlier" pattern. < 1365556742 649748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :insofar as that constitutes sequencing. < 1365556745 958327 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365556771 237105 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying you want nondeterministic string rewriting where all the rule's can fire all the time < 1365556778 207445 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gl ;] < 1365557036 872229 :ssue_!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kqjdshfhmwoikgst JOIN :#esoteric < 1365557060 759678 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run backwards too < 1365557139 371009 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of reversibility are we talking here < 1365557186 591345 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-215-119.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365557215 218489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@topic-snoc #esoteric help < 1365557215 785316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Topic does not parse. Should be of the form ["...",...,"..."] < 1365557261 80792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ;] < 1365557286 887691 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-70-199.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365557408 582874 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365557592 136983 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365557863 431127 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365557973 271837 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365557974 859986 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1365558427 298882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :am i wry? imo no | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1365558550 536686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if "imo no" means something in japanese
< 1365558582 571139 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the potato < 1365558601 95879 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jisho.org/words?jap=imo&eng=&dict=edict&common=on hth < 1365558635 696686 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess there's "imono", "cast metal", too, huh < 1365558645 305831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1365558658 926866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo no imono < 1365558673 423565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mono < 1365558682 50194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imon o < 1365558683 531669 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, much like "niwa ni wa niwa". < 1365558692 982927 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is a crocodile in the garden." < 1365558776 43696 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 100% awful at japanese but, if you were to say something like "There aren't two crocodiles in the garden." < 1365558787 875403 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be "niwa ni wa niwa ni (counter) nai" < 1365558798 227758 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365558804 494280 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the counter is "hiki". < 1365558809 872480 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes. < 1365558815 949725 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1365558834 873401 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though a bit more natural would be "niwa ni wa nihiki no niwa ga nai" < 1365558867 958544 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at that point you might as well go for "niwa ni wa niwa no niwatoori ga nai" < 1365558878 377489 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, "niwatori" < 1365558896 29070 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are not two chickens in the garden) < 1365558938 410076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, which word is crocodile here < 1365558939 403981 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo prefix "わ！" < 1365558941 285675 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wani < 1365558952 994458 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~surprisẽ~ < 1365558994 614116 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-70-199.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what is with this channel and potatoes" < 1365559002 915114 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's Japanese having a giant chunk of homophones here. < 1365559019 466542 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you actually read it as "niwa ni, wani wa" (garden , crocodile ) < 1365559026 736935 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Riiight, yeah. < 1365559037 132686 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Thanks for the correction. < 1365559050 675498 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "wani" is crocodile, "niwa" is "garden" or "two birds". < 1365559051 769845 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought you were making things extra fun & confusing intentionally < 1365559067 763696 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: No, I was just being bad. < 1365559088 26716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1365559098 67905 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1365559108 795883 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "ni wa" is a perfectly sensible series of particles. < 1365559139 955921 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :庭には二羽 <- See, perfectly reasonable. < 1365559151 344371 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :わ: "3: (Prefix) Japanese-style" < 1365559156 775426 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure nobody ever uses this but < 1365559166 363102 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: It's used fairly often. < 1365559178 601394 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1365559189 979169 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :和食 for instance. < 1365559196 516076 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :和服... < 1365559203 862118 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo: japanese-style birds and alligators in japanese-style gardens < 1365559243 126785 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The etymology of "wa" to refer to Japan is utterly unknown. < 1365559257 229107 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far as I know it's first attested with some Chinese dudes talking about the "people of Wa". < 1365559284 249182 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-70-199.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, doesn't that date back to like, the jomon almost < 1365559289 336775 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, "waniwa ni wa wawani to niwa no waniwatori" < 1365559291 12987 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes. < 1365559298 556790 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's pre-writing-in-Japan. < 1365559348 137916 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-70-199.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ol' dead cities < 1365559355 817995 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope it's just, "those crazy guys with their weird language with the はs" < 1365559362 920822 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be. < 1365559386 502732 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was /wa/ even a particle back in the day, though... < 1365559404 798433 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: It's a particle in the other Japonic languages. I'm going with "yes". < 1365559446 651502 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-70-199.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: given that it's chinese imperials it probably amounts to "these fucking hicks" < 1365559987 872439 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-70-199.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365559992 65696 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365560008 101441 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-70-199.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365560579 565229 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365561599 899241 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365561626 576791 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365562037 795933 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365562292 49704 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-70-199.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1365562400 39810 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-72.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365562405 723390 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1365563110 854783 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365563720 106120 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-72.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1365563813 149572 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-74-216.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365564123 98348 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365564158 835507 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365564159 29574 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365564306 327140 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365566076 685701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365566522 550561 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1365566594 979847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: potatoes are the miracle food < 1365566602 543041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are both starch and vegetable and they go with everything < 1365566607 236892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can be cooked so many ways < 1365566618 320851 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-74-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget why you're telling me this but yes < 1365566619 36862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can pretty much live on potatoes and milk < 1365566818 673161 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also live off corn and beans < 1365566992 799320 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :corn and beans and potatos and milk? now that's luxurey < 1365567006 613131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to nixtamalize the corn < 1365567016 660896 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you eat beans < 1365567023 916226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1365567024 109850 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-74-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, of course, is an ascetic living solely on human flesh. < 1365567027 464916 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is a good idea to do it anyway < 1365567043 962829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sheer variety of foods i eat in a single day is kind of staggering < 1365567068 198826 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365567207 58005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today: lamb, eggplant, olive oil, onions, tomatoes, fava beans, garlic, pita bread, tortilla, pinto beans, chicken, avocado, rice, lettuce, hot capsicum, vinegar, etc. < 1365567211 109581 :joop!5f609616@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.96.150.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365567264 337694 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today, I had beans and corn < 1365567279 411457 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and butter < 1365567303 35796 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much money for fancy things like lamb < 1365567311 759552 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm lazy < 1365567475 881558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah lamb is expensive I guess < 1365567481 907623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meat in general is < 1365567515 606876 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, pork here is almost $2 a pound < 1365567748 267719 :joop!5f609616@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.96.150.22 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1365568063 374854 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365569393 301758 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1365569395 127627 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1365569439 101202 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1365569976 587482 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365570415 952310 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365570853 629664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Fava beans? You fool! < 1365570879 516151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised when I found out Egyptian falafel is made of fava beans. < 1365570885 546274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i hear it goes nicely with monqy's diet < 1365570901 511748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and italian wine. < 1365570971 301230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@as monqy i don't get it what's your diet ?????? < 1365570971 834970 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365571006 617093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you _could_ look up about a page in the channel. < 1365571052 855759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that but didn't understand it so i thought you meant something else but now i get it its a reference to that movie which i didn't watch < 1365571065 417297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask monqy NEVER MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1365571065 774070 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1365571073 786208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. i haven't watched it either btw. < 1365571080 723977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fava beans nice chianti et c. < 1365571771 622566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I seem to have been wrong re Humble Bundle ad emails not being a weekly occasion even when they have nothing else to say than the weekly sale. < 1365571782 146975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: indeed < 1365571857 417695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnütt < 1365573188 254709 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1365573972 635526 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365574011 705852 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365574400 815107 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365576601 225357 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365576737 738158 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 QUIT :Client Quit < 1365577137 915904 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1365577886 539980 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365578012 123697 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365578013 447629 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365578046 718685 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 QUIT :Client Quit < 1365578170 628079 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@iz-aix-213a.HS-Karlsruhe.DE JOIN :#esoteric < 1365578201 129302 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365578234 71448 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 QUIT :Client Quit < 1365578555 932001 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@iz-aix-213a.HS-Karlsruhe.DE QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0/20130326150557] < 1365578718 500064 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365579306 718006 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365579577 68123 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1365579704 363103 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-74-216.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1365579854 176957 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1365580598 186445 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365580691 634196 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365580837 610496 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365581170 202944 :joop!52973712@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.151.55.18 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1365581863 902669 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365582653 333414 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365582693 635999 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1365583066 52850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1365583363 743832 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365584251 143169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AndroIRC seems to disconnect when I leave this device unattended. < 1365584281 440153 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is a problem with it < 1365584318 587067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better alternative? < 1365584402 550544 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365584406 995965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the bouncer configured to replay some amount of backlog, but it still pops up spurious query windows and all. < 1365584677 222347 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365586555 830840 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1365587338 610187 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1365587385 579261 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365588168 784153 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony JOIN :#esoteric < 1365588713 315773 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople JOIN :#esoteric < 1365589822 437379 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365589951 517795 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365590377 415512 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365590410 635825 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365590410 830308 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365590609 97317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365592541 33200 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365592741 706152 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1365592873 907017 :ThatOtherPerson!~ThatOther@unaffiliated/thatotherpersony QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365593522 517128 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365594003 621078 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1365595636 50271 :WeThePeople!~WeThePeop@unaffiliated/wethepeople QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365596240 79248 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1365597508 97485 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365597838 367385 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365597852 602718 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365597863 429858 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365597898 496711 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365597898 691678 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365598281 923498 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1365598303 27630 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365599546 340645 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365599766 42574 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365600007 695274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365600425 117387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: android apps don't run in the background indefinitely < 1365600441 532106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try whichivere flavor of connectbot has Mosh support < 1365600446 204774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run your IRC client on a remote server < 1365600680 42612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: android activities get GCed, but you can start always running background services. < 1365600699 390305 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, if you're not careful, they can be *very* always running and very hard to kill.) < 1365601137 160689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've had the same disconnectation problem with ConnectBot. < 1365601193 248077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the point was to run something with a proper text input box, the swiping and such seems to work quite differently in ConnectBot. < 1365601320 4725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android IRC's description page in Play says "stays connected in background". < 1365601340 923994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it costs money.) < 1365601411 246890 :carado!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1365601425 993227 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365601441 92463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd try the "only replay unseen" bouncer option, but that never replays anything, because of an always-connected irssi. < 1365601537 160173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1365601741 235553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should try AndChat out, its changelog says "Tweaks to ensure service is killable when no servers connected" which sounds like it's doing a thing. < 1365601760 325117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it didn't support client-side SSL certificates. < 1365602049 360719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#firstworldproblems?) < 1365602158 609558 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/#/\/r\// < 1365602190 750181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I feel like being of a corrective disposition today.) < 1365602267 430429 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365602626 331993 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don’t use / as the quote character if you’re using /s in the regexp or the substitution part. :-P < 1365602763 67879 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :toothpicks shall be leaned with impunity! < 1365602812 180372 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365603082 290043 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365603229 251459 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365603440 852840 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365603454 25512 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365604608 176596 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-5d81ee55.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365605604 124869 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 30000 / 9.81 < 1365605606 242713 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3058.103975535168 < 1365605635 616018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 30000 / 9.81 :: Rational < 1365605637 452647 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1000000 % 327 < 1365605638 90003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 30000 / 9.81 :: CReal < 1365605639 963915 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3058.1039755351681957186544342507645259938838 < 1365605927 559018 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell.org is down :( < 1365605973 885226 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1365606039 99060 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO < 1365606050 351965 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait I'm not a haskell person < 1365606103 472901 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, be a Haskell person < 1365606113 951171 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't take orders from you! < 1365606168 970928 :carado!~carado@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365606190 867032 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365606207 831046 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: be a Haskell person. < 1365606220 802628 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't work like that < 1365606240 605784 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo Koen_: be a Haskell person. < 1365606241 120151 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: be a Haskell person. < 1365606254 589951 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could at least have hidden the command! < 1365606262 528526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. < 1365606270 1986 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically I coudl learn haskell < 1365606271 65763 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.115.210.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: be a Haskell person. < 1365606277 669600 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on my list of languages < 1365606287 399997 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but chinese and dutch are higher on that list and that's gonna take a while < 1365606360 935931 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365606396 412179 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365606396 644715 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365606420 113999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :Koen_ be a Haskell person. | am i wry? imo no | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1365606428 133938 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :Koen_: be a Haskell person. | am i wry? imo no | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1365606453 801476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, just the right amount of motivation to motivate you to be motivated at learning Haskell sooner. < 1365606654 359192 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://189.34.44.144:8080/magic.html < 1365607059 394600 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1365608429 893505 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365608846 54084 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.183.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365609032 302738 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ThatOtherPerson < 1365609039 959649 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-04-09 18:53:46: I can confirm that Canada has cities; I have been to some. < 1365609224 56687 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he probably tried to check if those cities were still real. < 1365609237 175454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why ThatOtherPerson has disappeared. < 1365609266 506811 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do we know ThatOtherPerson hasn't become another person? < 1365609280 349893 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/hasn't/didn't < 1365609301 732583 :mrout!cb617f65@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.97.127.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365609321 369996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the canadian conspiracy assassinated him for revealing too much < 1365609322 156288 :mrout!cb617f65@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.97.127.101 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1365609369 606126 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365609828 393730 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-5d81ee55.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one would have believed him anyway < 1365609834 709558 :hagb4rdoux!~perdito@koln-5d81ee55.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1365609924 663599 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1365610598 26539 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365610606 619712 :calamari!~calamari@70-0-250-235.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365611196 575806 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1365611625 651484 :calamari!~calamari@70-0-250-235.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1365611652 733981 :calamari!~calamari@70-0-250-235.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365611907 513813 :calamari!~calamari@70-0-250-235.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365612609 32655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'"Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead" is now in the UK midweek Top 10.' < 1365612902 387593 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to Britain < 1365613008 1495 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365613235 532703 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-74-216.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365613536 649223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365613822 575990 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365613839 589136 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-74-216.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1365613919 615824 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-34-200.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365615176 664501 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365615463 919956 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365615553 918589 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365615674 29431 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1365615773 451790 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365615968 511892 :Bike!~Glossina@65-100-34-200.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365616000 242358 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365616159 733282 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365616172 491220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-144-125.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1365616260 881484 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1365616314 480802 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365616562 612958 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1365616604 588687 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365617278 418337 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365617902 16347 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1365617925 29643 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365617975 740404 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cash out BTC going down. < 1365618013 892247 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it dropped under 200$? < 1365618018 166355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$183 < 1365618025 104049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoinity.org/markets < 1365618030 65041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still dropping like a rock < 1365618047 409014 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTC is going down $20 in a minute < 1365618058 339856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to drop further, I still feel like I am missing out < 1365618059 534549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mtgox trading engine lag: 3707.25s" < 1365618070 775919 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoinity.org/markets < 1365618097 263966 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's happening? < 1365618106 675682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sell-off < 1365618123 184121 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a mysterious green line split into green lines... < 1365618126 48140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one person is still buying at $200 occasionally, lolol < 1365618164 540908 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bitcoin is crashing, eh < 1365618170 16328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1365618187 542986 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But uh... so these trades are from an hour ago? < 1365618207 995447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they were entered into the system 1 hour ago, but they're "happening" now < 1365618299 423116 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :real cute lag] < 1365618340 185071 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is cashing out I think < 1365618347 902649 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well should be < 1365618396 891607 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitcoinity is currently completely behind. New machine is coming slowly. Sorry folks < 1365618453 424638 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it's just dead < 1365618463 249676 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, bad gateway here < 1365618464 8424 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much activity??? < 1365618468 396039 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo my rubbernecking :( < 1365618472 265205 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone wants to see it crash < 1365618494 69644 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1365618514 754234 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I buy a time machine with bitcoins so I can go back and invest a lot of money in it < 1365618517 929587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and take it out yesterday < 1365618521 322497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz < 1365618523 670649 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365618568 114996 :TodPunk!~Tod@166-70-93-209.ip.xmission.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1365618569 57364 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ask ais523, he seems to know a lot about that kind of stuff < 1365618575 885216 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh have bitcoins finally crashed < 1365618619 320110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crashing < 1365618619 933825 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well, seems like they are crashing. Unfortunately bitcoinity is down so we can't all watch it. < 1365618624 665731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :down to $156 from $260+ < 1365618632 474051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mtgox.com/ has the last trade price at the top < 1365618664 657078 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://markets.blockchain.info/ died too < 1365618684 362841 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it does load now < 1365618687 645220 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but very slowly < 1365618732 925881 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1365618739 785405 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the price is back up to $190? < 1365618747 598880 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that guy who bought a pizza for 10,000 bitcoins in 2010 < 1365618756 660382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: a few weirdos keep buying at $200 and $190 < 1365618764 572489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :could have turned it into $2.6M this morning < 1365618766 765876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wouldn't say "the price" is back up to that < 1365618775 90814 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: possibly trying to save it? < 1365618789 218433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of ways to define "the price" but you might take a volume-weighted average over some time window < 1365618825 837166 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's true < 1365618865 528941 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ is working < 1365618867 181374 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw < 1365618871 875522 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365618916 671441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg that spread < 1365618922 637944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best bid $156 best ask $195 < 1365618926 711778 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1365618994 80403 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32947392#p32949294 < 1365618999 806754 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this true? < 1365619031 507584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what true < 1365619054 269031 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1365619062 446026 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OH NO THE MONEY IS WORTH THE SAME AS WHAT IT WAS YESTERDAY" < 1365619062 640826 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what the message says < 1365619079 458468 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean about NYSE? < 1365619114 888002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you paste so i dan't have to read 4chan at work < 1365619123 152465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or figure out what the hell even message you're referring to < 1365619124 197968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tia < 1365619141 581969 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people in mtgox IRC calling for them to completely halt the market for a day < 1365619146 654154 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>MagicalTux: shut it down. NYSE shuts down with there's a single day dip that's half as big as what we've seen, and in their case *they* didn't help to *cause* it < 1365619178 580357 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using 4chan for financial advice? < 1365619202 789890 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, I don't read 4chan usually < 1365619203 223508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, NYSE has circuit breakers < 1365619213 130322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think all the US equity markets have them < 1365619213 324855 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: someone just sent me this though < 1365619308 367683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the spread is due to mtgox being massively lagged so everyone's trying to guess where the markets will be an hour hence < 1365619326 901978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a neat problem, actually. < 1365619329 26523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I think there's a panic sell that is wiping out the bid side of the book < 1365619337 981320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while nobody bothers tending to limit sell orders < 1365619350 155771 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v.cute < 1365619391 997943 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1365619396 985898 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://images.4chan.org/g/src/1365616607844.gif Good thread < 1365619421 865937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw NYSE may be where many stocks are listed, and they have a nice looking building, but as a trading center they only have a small fraction of US equities < 1365619440 504749 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoinity is back up < 1365619461 177633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the actual trading happens in data centers in New Jersey and those mostly aren't run by NYSE (although they eventually got around to buying the operator of one of the main ones) < 1365619466 952864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmm... that stuff is still online: http://www.cgarbs.de/tentakel.en.html) < 1365620180 776772 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365620201 26068 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365620351 684399 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mtgox trading engine lag: 4356.00s < 1365620557 438924 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365620849 77379 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a lang that plays out like a rpg battle < 1365620883 365140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOMADWarrior: you should actually make one of these things, and show it to us < 1365620900 656842 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey rationalwiki has a hitpiece on david gerard < 1365620902 677405 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1365620904 372416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on bitcoins < 1365620910 267485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's written by david gerard < 1365620914 590469 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a "hitpiece" < 1365620921 826398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's normal lag for a stock exchange? < 1365620922 21322 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who's "david gerard" < 1365620924 88703 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a long explanation of why they're crap < 1365620929 951214 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds dull < 1365620944 871231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a hitpiece because the guy who wrote it was spectacularly annoying when i knew him < 1365620953 970084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hitpiece < 1365620954 488872 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1365620961 546881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck david gérard < 1365620961 862885 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1365620965 303256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck david gerard < 1365620965 642226 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By 1484 he had established himself in Bruges, where he remained until his death. < 1365620974 408608 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: dang, PH, you're old! < 1365620976 635036 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I would guess somewhere from milliseconds to seconds, but i dunno < 1365620978 655903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but christ he was annoying until then < 1365621056 234553 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a language that only has one loop statement, the infinite loop, and you have to use break to get it < 1365621059 861767 :GOMADWarrior!~Regis@189.34.44.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get out* < 1365621112 431767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not interesting < 1365621123 694109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very easy to compile a for loop or normal while loop to that < 1365621132 742798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming in this language would not be very different < 1365622958 900894 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365622995 518555 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365622995 713394 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365623155 874197 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365623329 978804 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1365623360 926550 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how some compiler compile it anyway. < 1365623455 101048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1365623658 605233 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365623696 440506 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-29-87.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365623696 635550 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365623715 685655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365623888 4247 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365623958 546202 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365624173 789788 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-174.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365624222 753510 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-174.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365624277 535159 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-174.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365624312 536150 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-174.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365624312 729295 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365624465 900281 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-174.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365624499 900392 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-174.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365624559 376552 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1365624583 516356 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365625001 467695 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365625030 402461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Robot < 1365625061 312574 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365625080 547465 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-180.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365625109 562825 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-180.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365625109 757134 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365625238 665128 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365625244 82648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1365625549 163373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:54:09: (#firstworldproblems?) < 1365625549 357906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:55:58: s/#/\/r\// < 1365625554 794032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the channel exists. < 1365625563 169690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 2 members though. < 1365625609 695215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please don’t use / as the quote character if you’re using /s in the regexp or the substitution part. :-P < 1365625652 268550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, /// ftw < 1365625679 316307 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365625698 469567 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-180.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365625711 214913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly i used substitutions from (|) (iirc) in my bct interpreter) < 1365625775 418884 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-180.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365625814 703605 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365625859 720244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : '"Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead" is now in the UK midweek Top 10.' <-- XD < 1365625879 299093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1365625887 604877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365625896 394611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _did_ notice a photograph somewhere with "The Bitch is Dead" and wondered why they didn't go all the way. < 1365625898 533002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/close and /quit are not the same. < 1365625909 529494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wow! < 1365625929 811176 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poulet! < 1365625976 476145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah. I did chickenise my quit message indeed. < 1365625980 635043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :poulet au prunes < 1365625983 493057 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-180.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365625990 616242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um you've had that for ages < 1365625991 895552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«aux». < 1365625999 729206 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365626001 968875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1365626004 639606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know. I tend to forget about the surrounding chickens. < 1365626033 498520 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-180.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365626041 293499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that book title is how i know what poulet means) < 1365626048 662720 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :poulet aux vache < 1365626053 980334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«vaches». < 1365626064 513235 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop butchering the noble French plural, you plebeian! < 1365626067 756145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: aux goes with plural. < 1365626077 525055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetchez la vache! < 1365626080 595478 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365626120 230859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people here always take English words and conjugate them in French. < 1365626141 268539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«t'irais tu me fetcher ça s'te plaît?» < 1365626169 688405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that particular case is a quote from very intentionally butchered french, assuming i got it right. < 1365626195 588249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :je voudrais une baguette, s'il vous plait < 1365626258 465134 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm currently actively abstaining from annoying the glorious citizens of this fine channel by quoting other replies from that movie. < 1365626273 245314 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :je suis une petite pamplemousse avec du yeux bleu < 1365626284 563958 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wut? < 1365626288 608357 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of only a handful pieces of french I know < 1365626304 999658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Je suis un petit pamplemousse avec des yeux bleus.» < 1365626313 846792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how that could _possibly_ be annoying hth < 1365626326 637495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs away
< 1365626337 873217 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: meh, the s'es are silent anyway < 1365626354 497105 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I never knew how to spell it < 1365626382 748151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the plural is with s, sometimes with x, sometimes completely arbitrary. < 1365626437 592761 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-22-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365626437 787653 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-22-149.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365626437 787811 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365626519 540050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(discovery of the day: poulet aux prunes is from the same woman that wrote persepolis.) < 1365626553 606853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know. even though i only got a handful pages into them. < 1365626591 565614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly because they were actually in french. < 1365626619 218996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the library. it later got a norwegian version but i didn't bother.) < 1365626641 259434 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't realize it was actually french until several pages into them? < 1365626673 611745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i did, but my french wasn't good enough for my patience to hold. nor was the book subject interesting enough for me. < 1365626681 650527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*comic book < 1365626858 541034 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365626896 637583 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :french is not a language I'm trying to learn < 1365626951 576411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*graphic novel, i suppose < 1365627118 767557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: this bitcoin crash i see about in the logs is probably due to your new esolang, hth < 1365627141 781816 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! < 1365627152 212656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to know the basics in French: «bonjour», «au revoir», «merci», and «mon aéroglisseur est plein d'anguilles». < 1365627153 152309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gave the speculators too much power < 1365627155 965434 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to think of the French phrase for "comic book" a few weeks ago! < 1365627182 929598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bande dessinée is comic iirc < 1365627191 138340 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was close < 1365627197 419050 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had arte instead of bande < 1365627206 893768 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arte? < 1365627239 381421 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My pretty much non-existent knowledge of French playing up < 1365627256 347025 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. no worries, then. < 1365627326 429963 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I agree. < 1365627380 608876 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mt. Gox says the last trade price is $189; what kind of crash is that? < 1365627381 200762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you forgot something about ears and bananas imo < 1365627406 612600 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was up to, like, $240. < 1365627452 460932 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: quoi? je t'entends pas, j'ai une banane dans l'oreille. < 1365627457 359971 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Bitcoins are deflated < 1365627475 640809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and something about eating glass < 1365627508 424371 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there was a big DDOS attack I heard < 1365627522 752711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the price is back up to $190 but like, all the trades are executing with huge delays and stuff < 1365627533 923793 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll have to check that one up. can't remember what's the "official" québécois translation. I think it goes like this: «j'mange d'la vitre pis ça me fait pas mal». < 1365627546 809719 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the weighted average price is still really high so I'm guessing very few trades executed at the lower prices?) < 1365627547 88509 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to write some sort of automatic trading program and seed it with, like, ten bucks. See how quickly I can turn it into a hundred thousand. < 1365627569 328836 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't take more than a week... < 1365627584 19922 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing HFT is a little tricky at least on mtgox, since they charge a 0.6% fee per transaction < 1365627587 989114 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was $13 a few weeks ago < 1365627637 289567 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :another piece of french I may know wrong: les poisson cru est salée < 1365627664 115427 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was in the "things that french people will find funny about sweden" chapter of the french books < 1365627669 407608 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Le poisson cru est salé.» < 1365627684 981756 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ddos strategies are kind of evil though, it's like, ddos the exchanging, cause panic selling, buy at lower prices, stop ddos, sell -_- < 1365627688 685838 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the exchanges < 1365627713 877418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the hours of lag might be a bigger obstacle to HFT? < 1365627739 495972 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes trying to do HFT during a DDOS is probably a horrid idea too XD < 1365627747 794448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the "DDoS" is that a bunch of people tried to sell their bitcoins all at once < 1365627753 396650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and MtGox is shitty so this caused them to fall over < 1365627761 332853 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$13 was a few months ago < 1365627773 370318 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_, I've lost all track of time < 1365627774 774972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: found the canonical glass form: «J'peux bouffer d'la vitre, ça m'fa pas mal.» < 1365627789 767070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: just because the last trade was at $189 doesn't mean that "the price has recovered" to there < 1365627798 783049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: merci beaucoup < 1365627806 27460 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weighted average is probably the best thing to look at < 1365627806 860015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :throughought the crash there were people occasionally buying for $40+ more than the rest of the trades < 1365627809 715636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spreads got crazy huge < 1365627811 398692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1365627815 911803 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :($198) < 1365627816 105625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :volume-weighted average price is legit < 1365627821 908267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's that down to < 1365627823 401619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: really? over what time window? < 1365627830 158291 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365627831 595403 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's one day < 1365627837 432931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1365627841 618428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see what it is tomorrow :) < 1365627841 813319 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But like, I watched it during the crash, it didn't go down much < 1365627846 603354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true < 1365627847 600724 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing very few trades were executing during it < 1365627852 763120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://data.mtgox.com/api/0/png/24hours.png?Currency=USD < 1365627853 264136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, I meant the weighted average didn't < 1365627855 637043 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the price < 1365627880 153281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there was half a day of normal trading before the crash < 1365627901 663879 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow <-- how am i supposed to wait that long for my schadenfreude! < 1365627918 183280 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I'm kinda wondering how anyone could sell when the exchange was lagging that much XD < 1365627930 354041 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the market depth indicator is still down... -_- < 1365628006 875475 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1365628026 935997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing is vile: http://foodbeast.com/content/2013/04/08/po-boy-ramen-sandwich-for-when-youre-desperate-and-out-of-bread/#.UWSVqJNwqjQ < 1365628040 35067 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. I wonder if you could actually judge the volume of the low-price trades by watching the rate of change of the weighted average < 1365628056 570987 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'm guessing it gets periodically recalculated? < 1365628059 905632 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-179-240.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365628145 942459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will try this
< 1365628293 834758 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As one of the oldest and most established Bitcoin businesses in operation today, Mt.Gox K.K. has developed a reputation based on reliability and stability, allowing users to trade with confidence." < 1365628294 466325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to my phone, I have ~0,0504 CAD in bitcoins. < 1365628316 289199 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they're registered in Japan for some reason. < 1365628367 330425 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.tibanne.com/ Did you know that Tibanne is a company incorporated in Tokyo (Japan) in 2009? < 1365628403 596638 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're like the one bitcoin exchange/tool that was hacked and actually covered all the losses, so maybe comparatively they are reliable and stable? XD < 1365628426 565686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://mtgox.com/img/quote.gif < 1365628432 566700 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365628432 802841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is there anything else to know about Tibanne? < 1365628433 903132 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1365628454 780803 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah i noticed that in that bitcoin stalker paper fiora linked < 1365628466 253501 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365628466 448501 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365628536 827627 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if trades now are $1 less than 24 hours ago, and the volume is the same, the average will change by 1/24 dollars per hour" <-- this is correct right < 1365628616 873427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess if you count volume, then it'd be 1/24 * (volume now / volume then) < 1365628942 606982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: only if the average volume is the same for the entire time between as well < 1365628982 295301 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true.... *super rough estimations* < 1365629042 995990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's for your first line, i'm too lazy to check your second one < 1365629130 573023 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: okay my wildly crazy guesstimate math says the average sale price during the crash was around 175-180 < 1365629137 995955 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the crash is the past 4 hours ish I guess < 1365629186 85723 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the official numbers say volume was 75k in the past 4 hours, and 150k in the past 24! so 75000 bitcoins were sold at around 175-180 average. wildly guessing <.< < 1365629319 904401 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365629361 21938 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you want schadenfreude maybe find the people investing in bitcoin hedge funds? XD < 1365629512 277784 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 251 seconds < 1365629537 832657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1365629542 737958 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365629554 689270 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365629651 674508 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh um, unrelatedly kmc bike was talking about your breakpoint/interrupt stuff < 1365629668 474128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool < 1365629674 929827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1365629676 385915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike < 1365629701 944876 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was um, I think he was looking at SBCL's allocator and the way it handled interrupts with this weird pseudo-atomic thing? < 1365629704 755591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was weird < 1365629782 699073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, it uses a BREAK to run interrupts deferred during a pseudoatomic section, i guess < 1365629809 950525 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I recognize this topic < 1365629850 246656 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stores EBP in some FS-indexed thread local data structure, then if an interrupt hits it sets some flag there, and then it xors it at the end of the allocation, and checks to see if it's zero? < 1365629856 312908 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if not it signals a trap < 1365629859 261804 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's interesting < 1365630003 63456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I am kind of half-guessing at what it does < 1365630559 605336 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-199-254.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365631478 692179 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1365631509 616699 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1365631627 584355 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: okay it's schadenfreude time, bitcoin is now down to 138 and falling XD < 1365631718 308752 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, we were pointing and laughing earlier < 1365631733 413320 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for shits and giggles i checked the bitcoin subreddit, it's... amusing < 1365631786 14720 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh. < 1365631805 658851 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the shits to giggles ratio here < 1365631813 852885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was below 138 < 1365631819 375273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1365631824 189161 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but like, the exchange was being ddossed before < 1365631824 385409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it is "recovering" < 1365631826 502209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it seems to be working < 1365631832 719462 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it went bac up to about $200 as the ddos ended < 1365631834 133728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ < 1365631836 63353 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then... crashed again < 1365631838 445850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean... 138 is still a lot < 1365631845 102090 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh actually that's gone down < 1365631853 343351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: WFM < 1365631861 537030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however i find its output completely unreadable < 1365631871 934163 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh. that's a cool chart thing < 1365631879 353939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's just boxplots < 1365631895 136694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i am bad at them < 1365631902 94405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoins sort of remind me of eve online < 1365631914 285244 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think even ISK was that volatile < 1365631933 389796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :microcosms of incredibly deep RL-mimicking politics that spill out into the world at large < 1365631951 929741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably better to watch from a distance than get involved in < 1365631963 973428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also everyone's a twenty-something dude? < 1365631970 820272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought getting involved in eve was one of your inevitable life goals < 1365631989 328109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: does this mean we can extend it to startups < 1365632022 659697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's more like having nightmares about falling into a life of drugs and sin and fearing they may one day come true < 1365632025 688727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's EVE < 1365632054 105489 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's definitely that weird feeling when the internet spills out into reality like that < 1365632061 266969 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like. reading news articles about -bitcoin hedge funds- < 1365632084 881866 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365632085 75701 :Lymia!~moe@108-205-143-75.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Changing host < 1365632085 75869 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1365632143 988002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin < 1365632152 191374 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how russia is actually the most interested < 1365632157 164432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the other way, like when one of the most prominent EVE players was killed by terrorists in Benghazi < 1365632161 875577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also a SA mod) < 1365632165 238442 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ;-; < 1365632167 256399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was sad < 1365632169 515759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was so weird < 1365632181 811044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how viable it is to speculate ISK... < 1365632186 277924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a thing people do < 1365632187 679367 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not viable at all < 1365632192 526816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also had the concrete effect for me that a lot of dumbassed EVE players decided to talk about glassing Libya in SA's middle east thread < 1365632195 508453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers < 1365632211 371636 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably hard because the only decent way I remember to convert dollars<->ISK is with PLEX? < 1365632213 790309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's illegal to trade ISK for real money and CCP will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you do < 1365632224 482333 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't really... like. I don't think you can buy dollars with PLEX < 1365632225 343924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are you saying illegal things are always not viable < 1365632226 853575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, and that's /only/ dollars->ISK < 1365632227 519944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not legally < 1365632232 133374 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1365632237 24300 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could speculate for more ISK, couldn't you? < 1365632244 335716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise they're subject to icelanding banking regulations < 1365632255 737063 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it being against the ToS would increase a pretty hefty cost to trades back to dollars, I'd imagine < 1365632255 932088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes but the idea is that you are a sufficiently good criminal and get away with it < 1365632265 344492 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd be a lot harder to profit because of that premium < 1365632269 639351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's true < 1365632321 396218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess you have to be good enough about speculation to beat that! < 1365632376 537136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does eve have like, stocks < 1365632441 402239 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck it could be a practical application of that paper about arbitrage when you have FTL < 1365632483 571503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365632490 242499 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, but no regulation :p < 1365632498 979882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :investment scaaaaaams~ < 1365632501 979583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's so cool that relativity is an important factor in real world stock trading on earth < 1365632512 472662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to get krugman playing EVE, people. this could happen < 1365632522 415398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both literal speed of light relativity but also the more general idea of "you can't say what the price is, independent of your reference frame" < 1365632527 649586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they like, build computers closer to the NYSE right < 1365632532 132916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get faster connections < 1365632537 742003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for HFT < 1365632541 612215 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what XD < 1365632543 915091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, you pay $$$$$$$ to have your computer hosted in the same datacenter as the exchange's < 1365632558 87769 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh, I guess that is true, since there's no absolute reference frame < 1365632558 705659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact big banks will buy up those spots just so their competitors can't have them < 1365632562 596255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, marginal theory of value, right? < 1365632570 587138 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are HFT people actually doing relativity calculations? < 1365632575 151478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, uh, why can't you just use earth as a reference frame < 1365632576 672357 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things don't have objective value < 1365632591 79243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: not calculations per se, that i know of, but you definitely care about the time it takes light to travel on this or that path < 1365632593 199262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well, they're surely going to at least measure their ping < 1365632594 523857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "the earth is down, therefore gold is $400" < 1365632597 295787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean there aren't exactly any stock exchanges in geostationary orbit < 1365632602 28099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use that < 1365632611 629277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :light travels about 1/3 slower in optical fiber, so some people use microwave links instead < 1365632620 536195 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading a thing where they were proposing using neutrinos sent through the earth to gain a latency edge < 1365632625 355103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: >_< < 1365632633 233037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1365632650 745811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HFT sounds like a lot of fun to work on < 1365632650 985582 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2012/04/30/neutrinos-to-give-high-frequency-traders-the-millisecond-edge/ < 1365632654 47462 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a blockbuster movie about having to nuke the core of the earth to restart it after it's been flooded by neutrinos from greedy captain planet villains < 1365632654 241723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also incredibly stressful < 1365632658 185799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yep < 1365632663 936321 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've heard horrid things about working in that industry ;-; < 1365632666 804055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also the code is shit qualityp < 1365632675 844016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where people go in, work insane hours, and burn themselves out in two years for the hope of huge payouts < 1365632676 376877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: isn't quant like the worst job and also best paying job for math people. < 1365632691 427738 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hft sounds awfull < 1365632694 461659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i know there are a few HFT firms that use Haskell, i wonder if their code is any better than the average < 1365632698 459903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most industries have deadline pressure but in HFT there's no deadline per se, it's just every day you don't trade you are leaving money on the ground < 1365632717 335603 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: unsafeCoerce for speed < 1365632718 763906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everyone just copy-pastes the last similar thing, hacks it up real quick, and starts trading ASAP < 1365632726 253516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well we do that in lens too < 1365632733 538914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I think edwardk works as a quant. < 1365632736 185338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all makes sense now < 1365632740 867384 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER < 1365632743 920985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't edwardk build analysis software < 1365632759 865381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: but algorithms < 1365632774 343464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt algorithms < 1365632793 20551 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the high frequency porn trading circuit < 1365632879 298453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Reddit user posted a graphic showing the Spartans' shields from the movie 300 redesigned as Bitcoins with the word HOLD! across the top. < 1365632882 318778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Business Insider < 1365632885 686097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. < 1365632888 153451 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the info < 1365632898 992402 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-] < 1365632934 956659 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quality journalism! < 1365632964 224158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it links to < 1365632964 851724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitcoin Fanboy Makes Awesome Graphic Telling Others To Stay Strong In The Face Of Collapse < 1365632970 953891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitcoins are crashing today. < 1365632971 148291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're down from over $260 earlier to under $190. < 1365632971 148471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This graphic was posted to Reddit by user blood4thegood to encourage fellow Bitcoiners to hold strong and not sell into this panic. < 1365632973 696945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is actually an article < 1365632974 983811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on their website. < 1365632982 472481 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on... Business Insider? < 1365632984 979973 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1365632986 527258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they got the username wrong < 1365632988 671983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite linking it. < 1365632994 611766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.businessinsider.com/as-bitcoin-prices-collapse-fans-are-telling-each-other-to-stay-strong-and-hold-2013-4 behold < 1365633061 746076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/516571b3ecad04492200001b-918-689/Bitcoin-billionaire.png these are some good articles < 1365633097 631186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : because it's illegal to trade ISK for real money and CCP will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you do <-- something tells me you were _not_ speaking about icelandic krona anyhow < 1365633129 231809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: icelandic fake krona < 1365633154 346900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: where... where is the billionaire < 1365633225 606017 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365633231 916783 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are snippets of information: he or she claims that they were an "early adopter," and had forgotten they even had any Bitcoins. "I am bitcoin," he or she wrote in a moment of megalomania. < 1365633278 968308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1365633295 459665 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prices do seem to be rising from the second trough, admittedly < 1365633298 644757 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :choice business insider quotes < 1365633325 396184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1365633340 611645 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a massive bitcoin crash occurs! it must be because of this random redditor who gave away 50 coins < 1365633363 293248 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-bitcoinbillionaire-2013-4 < 1365633365 261958 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1365633365 599819 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-137.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1365633367 408933 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365633367 785029 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how did you deregister yourself accidentally? < 1365633391 808836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1365633398 817170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on freenode? < 1365633442 695776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh humans, what won't you attribute to some mysterious agent in order to insulate yourself from the blind terror of the world < 1365633465 970590 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1365633468 903856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's actually about a guy who gave away a few tens of thousands of dollars worth of bitcoins < 1365633489 527799 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then ended with a ron paul quote < 1365633519 455150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcointip/comments/1c1hp2/a_4680_tip_really/c9c7sfq?context=3 < 1365633522 471923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am bitcoin < 1365633550 9935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MF BADASS. < 1365633569 975450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-billionaire-tips-being-passed-on-2013-4 < 1365633573 949421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitcoin billionaire: the follow-up story < 1365633576 867265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brought to you by business insider < 1365633752 395429 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well how else are they supposed to be hip < 1365633756 712347 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :youth culture of today &c &c < 1365633796 912814 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365633824 960682 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1365633848 545481 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365634157 489554 :monqy!~help@pool-98-108-214-230.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1365634589 963537 :ousia!~ousia@gateway/tor-sasl/ousia JOIN :#esoteric < 1365634917 49934 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1365634976 564532 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, Agora < 1365634981 608770 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, your votes make me sad :( < 1365635022 586836 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-44.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1365635031 917625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I am not a player/ < 1365635033 62791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1365635211 442718 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anybody know any good papers/whatever on closures being partial applications? < 1365635213 273959 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1365635235 725517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closures being partial applications? < 1365635252 42205 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I just don't like seeing blanket against votes < 1365635253 373224 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all < 1365635257 601548 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. that is what i said. < 1365635263 855472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but what did you mean? < 1365635265 684210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I don't like seeing thousand-proposal distributions < 1365635292 545693 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter JOIN :#esoteric < 1365635296 37281 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: If you lift all the free variables in a lambda abstraction into being parameters, a closure is then that lambda+a few partially applied arguments. < 1365635332 62820 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let x = 55 in \x y -> x + y" "(\x y -> x + y) 55", i guess? < 1365635369 787129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, and then you implement partial application via what mechanism? < 1365635375 545319 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda the ultimate declairitive? < 1365635425 822482 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does it matter? < 1365635548 670054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. < 1365635573 841200 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither am I, that's why I'd like to read something about it. < 1365635576 468528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want papers to read maybe you should read this one, though. < 1365635577 912262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where stg < 1365635578 356592 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.53.3729 < 1365635634 627080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's as old as me < 1365635660 347481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow Bike how does it feel to be old < 1365635747 321778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that paper is older than me < 1365635759 40155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion: Bike doesn't exist < 1365635772 646499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we all knew that, John. < 1365635806 367239 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike only lives as an irc spirit < 1365635813 645199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's John < 1365635834 281449 :c00kiemon5ter!~c00kiemon@foss-aueb/coder/c00kiemon5ter PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, Rambo. ofcourse. < 1365635876 426466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.businessinsider.com/2-million-bitcoin-pizza-2013-4 < 1365635889 601439 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, in bitcoin news < 1365635909 383993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This episode is a big lesson and a big cautionary tale: Anyone transacting in Bitcoin is liable to feel like an idiot the next day, as the price surges or collapses. < 1365635912 384600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence it makes more sense to just speculate, and not do anything real. < 1365635915 552834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :business insider trying to bring down bitcoin < 1365635924 944648 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ron paul insider < 1365635929 79484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-panic-looks-like-2013-4 < 1365635930 924841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Others are saying to put things into "perspective," meaning that Bitcoin is still up a lot in recent days/weeks (that's classic). < 1365635937 88341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is literally a blog < 1365635938 95446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also remember THIS game::::: http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/631/Fable_1.jpg < 1365635946 600361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-250-2013-4 < 1365635947 359479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BITCOIN $250 < 1365635949 585143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No comment needed. < 1365635951 367906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOURNALISM < 1365635953 432630 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1365635959 170174 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nope. < 1365635974 496847 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously is this a real magazine because i thought it was but... what < 1365635977 619964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: itym \rainbow{JOURNALISM} hth < 1365635981 657010 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, check out the lone comment < 1365635994 98932 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1365635994 292755 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365636001 582319 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1365636021 241863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAJiCERMxfI < 1365636025 477505 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Overly-Attached Girlfriend Explains What It's Like Being A Wildly Popular Internet Meme < 1365636029 87328 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on. come on < 1365636032 943331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'd've expected you to know it. < 1365636049 709174 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not really "a games person" < 1365636075 714726 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha is this real dialogue < 1365636093 676019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Insider apparently it's just a website but I think it's meant to be, like, reputable < 1365636101 495460 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i thought! < 1365636106 543499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're being very UNreputable < 1365636114 863532 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dereputable one might say < 1365636131 155931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Deputy editor Nicholas Carlson previously worked at Internet.com and Gawker Media's Silicon Valley gossip blog, Valleywag.com." < 1365636165 139297 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It [valleywag] was the first to break some stories, such as the leaking of a Gene Simmons sex tape." < 1365636266 95191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: more than one comment < 1365636269 763898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's just the only Insider™ comment < 1365636274 257223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 33 comments! < 1365636280 389789 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In its first post, Valleywag outed the fact that Google founder Larry Page and high-ranking employee Marissa Mayer had dated for months." jesus christ < 1365636281 587831 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1365636290 931330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just makes it worse < 1365636304 249754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "gawker" < 1365636331 461149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In journalism school, you would never even think about sharing any gossip of this nature without at least two reliable sources, but that never stopped Owen, nor did it stop other bloggers from picking up the incendiary story and shining a very negative light on the Web server hosting company in question." < 1365636334 27050 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In spring 2008, Valleywag ran a series of articles on Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales, alleging that he traded favorable edits for sexual favors and donations to the Wikimedia Foundation. < 1365636351 397712 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tech news world may just be the saddest shit ever < 1365636369 157454 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what, you've never heard of them? < 1365636413 442734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no i just mean < 1365636413 794307 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have like... io9 and kotaku and stuff. < 1365636414 658665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gawker". < 1365636422 278229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know who they are. < 1365636423 867281 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah it's a web 4.0 name < 1365636426 322001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i < 1365636427 893292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am not commenting < 1365636429 131317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the name < 1365636436 334587 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you commenting that gawker is shitty < 1365636447 745100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something along those lines yes, meanwhile < 1365636448 411866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here's what the latter folks understand that the those who are huffing about "Bitcoin bubbles" don't: < 1365636451 745333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most you can lose if Bitcoins go to zero is 100% of your money. < 1365636454 249846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most you can make, meanwhile ... < 1365636456 759917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no one knows exactly how much you can make. < 1365636469 577696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok glad we had this talk. i look forward to move bitcoin investment tips. < 1365636490 86383 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more? move? who knows < 1365636510 962606 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any bubbles where it's possible to lose more than has been invested? < 1365636537 938399 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of your disgruntled employees could murder you. < 1365636554 23568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta keep them employees gruntled < 1365636568 498179 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could collapse the bubble so hard the economy collapses, and you're reduced to Mad Max style guerilla startup investment. < 1365636606 233982 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anywhere from $1 to $1 google? < 1365636705 167596 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, the sad thing is i suspect a large number of bitcoiny types think they would be happy with this < 1365636728 597228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ps it was a quote < 1365636770 113180 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-24-19-12.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right, it used capitalization. < 1365636782 130945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well if you accept the explanation that the housing (+ mortgage derivatives) bubble caused a global financial meltdown < 1365636785 152960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then yes < 1365636789 442138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how true that is really < 1365636795 453677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically what Bike said, with the Mad Max < 1365636820 547087 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365636829 980576 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mad Max? < 1365636844 863477 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thunderdome, etc < 1365636845 493476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ""You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretsky" -- Michael Scott < 1365636858 220768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- kmc < 1365636872 204279 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" -- You < 1365636877 729141 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew 'mad max' had to mean something, after someone was doing an LP that had the phrase "And now mad MAAX" and the LPer commented on that < 1365636917 816759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more sterling work from s. geo, detective, gentleman and lover < 1365636973 215633 :btiffin!~btiffin@24.212.223.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the room discussing investing? I have a feeling that with the Cayman Island hidden wealth data leak, there will be a run on gold soon. And jewels, and great huge pirate treasure hoards accumulating soon as the duck and cover proceeds. < 1365637130 82264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm sorry, I can't disclose anything about that customer's secret, illegal account." < 1365637176 635681 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can lose more than you've invested if you leverage yourself! < 1365637206 33223 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: re bubbles where you can lose more than has been invested: yes, that's what a short squeeze is. < 1365637206 227365 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is doubly dangerous in bubbles, since the market can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent, as I think the adage goes) < 1365637258 994388 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, incidentally, do you think I severely spoiled HS for Aftr.? < 1365637272 292253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a really dangerous bit about any kind of short investing, even if you know with total certainty that the price will eventually fall you can still end up bankrupt < 1365637285 514860 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that seems almost impossible. < 1365637294 463632 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I haven't actually caught up, so I don't actually know. < 1365637299 177313 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or well, in a way that... oh < 1365637308 188774 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in a way that would bother Aftran < 1365637384 292000 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S A SPOILER CASCADE < 1365637442 663563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: p. good adage < 1365637468 401431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it depends on how exactly you're shorting, though < 1365637474 373298 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1365637483 985447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typically you go through a brokerage which imposes certain margin requirements, and will close out your position if you get too far in the red < 1365637504 329093 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused < 1365637523 171263 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're shorting, aren't you betting that the price will fall? So you'd only lose money if the price kept going up? < 1365637526 393302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that caps your losses (not sure if that holds up in court, though, if they fail to close it out) < 1365637529 465111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1365637559 2001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: specifically, you've borrowed the asset in order to sell it, so you owe someone the return of that asset < 1365637572 877391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the price goes up, the cost to you of buying back that asset to make good on your debt can be arbitrarily high < 1365637575 734333 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well it's just like, either your short position has a margin call problem or it's time-limited (like an option) < 1365637579 311444 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1365637585 485397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365637596 494926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's different if you're, like, a registered broker-dealer doing shorts on the exchange directly < 1365637602 141260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :naked shorting? :P < 1365637607 134841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case you might even be allowed to do naked shorts < 1365637607 669532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365637610 441722 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75.87.251.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just saw a blog post about auto defined functions, and all the comments are trying to sell him car parts < 1365637611 633351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they know they can come after you < 1365637616 336393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess long term capital management is a great example of it though, they had an investment that was basically guaranteed to eventually rise in value < 1365637632 756524 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they still got run out of the market because they couldn't survive the short-term pain < 1365637643 682799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1365637649 733001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the asian govt bonds thing? < 1365637663 836270 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.amazon.com/When-Genius-Failed-Long-Term-Management/dp/0375758259 you should read this thing, it's really really good < 1365637669 734943 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our econ teacher assigned it < 1365637675 885124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I think when I went to work in finance, they gave me a copy of that book and then I failed to read it < 1365637679 157967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :naked shorting is where you go around naked except for shorts < 1365637680 473733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also gave us Liar's Poker which I did read < 1365637681 206539 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1365637692 2781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, it's sort of the complement of shirtcocking < 1365637694 716592 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LTCM was a hedge fund in the late 90s making ~20-30% each year by betting that interest rate spreads between countries would converge < 1365637705 355314 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using insanely leveraged, arcane option bets < 1365637709 662598 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then the 1998 panic hit < 1365637716 679998 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they started losing a billion dollars a day < 1365637721 585014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they couldn't get out of their trades < 1365637741 116152 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was worse because the money had started to dry up, so they had started making riskier bets to keep the same returns, and they were -incredibly- overconfident) < 1365637743 510849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::X < 1365637766 83133 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best part though, was when they had to go to banks to ask for money to try to get out of their mess < 1365637777 828262 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the banks looked at their books, their eyes went wide open in terror, and immediately ran for their lives < 1365637782 11785 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and proceeded to bet against LTCM < 1365637808 555228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1365637810 89050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blood in the water < 1365637816 981078 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuuuup < 1365637837 480298 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end the banks did have to bail them out because if they had actually gone bankrupt the unravelling of derivatives would have lost the banks billions < 1365637843 123038 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but. the bailout resulted in them owning the hedge fund < 1365637850 801218 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1365637877 9139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1365637882 325515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bailouts are funny < 1365637890 273153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in the end they actually made a profit on those derivatives < 1365637899 630507 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that, they couldn't survive the short-term drop < 1365637916 326851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how the workers finally seized the means of production in the US auto industry, if by workers you mean pension fund of retired workers < 1365637920 662505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, I think in the end they had 1 trillion dollars of derivatives on 1 billion in assets < 1365637926 383925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by production you mean the ability to make crap cars that nobody wants < 1365637930 593469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1365637938 824220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the paper value of derivatives can be insane < 1365637947 7717 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-201.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh burn, quite possibly! < 1365637966 26395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people talked about the CDO market being like hundreds of trillions nominally < 1365638085 511544 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I remember my econ professor talking about examples like 1 million dollar exchange rate derivative contracts < 1365638097 595676 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like the actual practical effect of the derivative was way tinier