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Have you seen Thue. 01:15:54 see now that makes more sense 01:16:10 yes I have 01:16:19 It doesn't have sequencing. 01:17:34 "This segment type is reserved but has unspecified semantics." the heck 01:18:11 I thought you could force sequenceing because the definitions themselves don't get rewritten 01:18:48 so if rule b can't fire until rule a has modified the string 01:18:51 You can force sequencing in getting a pattern to match only something produced by an "earlier" pattern. 01:19:02 insofar as that constitutes sequencing. 01:19:05 yes 01:19:31 so you're saying you want nondeterministic string rewriting where all the rule's can fire all the time 01:19:38 gl ;] 01:23:56 -!- ssue_ has joined. 01:24:20 and run backwards too 01:25:39 what sort of reversibility are we talking here 01:26:26 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 01:26:55 @topic-snoc #esoteric help 01:26:55 Topic does not parse. Should be of the form ["...",...,"..."] 01:27:41 monqy: ;] 01:28:06 -!- Bike has joined. 01:30:08 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:33:12 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 01:37:43 -!- conehead has joined. 01:39:33 `slist 01:39:34 slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot 01:47:07 -!- kmc has set topic: am i wry? imo no | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 01:49:10 * oerjan wonders if "imo no" means something in japanese 01:49:42 of the potato 01:50:01 http://jisho.org/words?jap=imo&eng=&dict=edict&common=on hth 01:50:35 oh i guess there's "imono", "cast metal", too, huh 01:50:45 excellent 01:50:58 imo no imono 01:51:13 i mono 01:51:22 imon o 01:51:23 Ah, much like "niwa ni wa niwa". 01:51:32 "There is a crocodile in the garden." 01:52:56 i'm 100% awful at japanese but, if you were to say something like "There aren't two crocodiles in the garden." 01:53:07 would it be "niwa ni wa niwa ni (counter) nai" 01:53:18 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:53:24 I think the counter is "hiki". 01:53:29 But yes. 01:53:35 excellent 01:53:54 Though a bit more natural would be "niwa ni wa nihiki no niwa ga nai" 01:54:27 And at that point you might as well go for "niwa ni wa niwa no niwatoori ga nai" 01:54:38 Erm, "niwatori" 01:54:56 (there are not two chickens in the garden) 01:55:38 wait, which word is crocodile here 01:55:39 imo prefix "わ！" 01:55:41 wani 01:55:52 ~surprisẽ~ 01:56:34 "what is with this channel and potatoes" 01:56:42 oerjan: It's Japanese having a giant chunk of homophones here. 01:56:59 you actually read it as "niwa ni, wani wa" (garden , crocodile ) 01:57:06 nooodl: Riiight, yeah. 01:57:17 nooodl: Thanks for the correction. 01:57:30 oerjan: "wani" is crocodile, "niwa" is "garden" or "two birds". 01:57:31 oh i thought you were making things extra fun & confusing intentionally 01:57:47 nooodl: No, I was just being bad. 01:58:08 ah 01:58:18 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Koen_). 01:58:28 And "ni wa" is a perfectly sensible series of particles. 01:58:59 庭には二羽 <- See, perfectly reasonable. 01:59:11 わ: "3: (Prefix) Japanese-style" 01:59:16 i'm sure nobody ever uses this but 01:59:26 nooodl: It's used fairly often. 01:59:38 oooh 01:59:49 和食 for instance. 01:59:56 和服... 02:00:03 imo: japanese-style birds and alligators in japanese-style gardens 02:00:43 The etymology of "wa" to refer to Japan is utterly unknown. 02:00:57 Far as I know it's first attested with some Chinese dudes talking about the "people of Wa". 02:01:24 oh, doesn't that date back to like, the jomon almost 02:01:29 Yeah, "waniwa ni wa wawani to niwa no waniwatori" 02:01:31 Bike: Yes. 02:01:38 Bike: It's pre-writing-in-Japan. 02:02:28 good ol' dead cities 02:02:35 i hope it's just, "those crazy guys with their weird language with the はs" 02:02:42 Could be. 02:03:06 was /wa/ even a particle back in the day, though... 02:03:24 nooodl: It's a particle in the other Japonic languages. I'm going with "yes". 02:04:06 nooodl: given that it's chinese imperials it probably amounts to "these fucking hicks" 02:13:07 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 02:13:12 -!- augur has joined. 02:13:28 -!- Bike has joined. 02:22:59 -!- GOMADWarrior has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:39:59 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 02:40:26 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:47:17 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 02:51:32 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 02:53:20 -!- Bike has joined. 02:53:25 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:05:10 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:15:20 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 03:16:53 -!- Bike has joined. 03:22:03 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 03:22:38 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 03:22:39 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 03:25:06 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 03:54:36 -!- Vorpal has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 04:02:02 -!- Vorpal has joined. 04:03:14 Bike: potatoes are the miracle food 04:03:22 they are both starch and vegetable and they go with everything 04:03:27 and can be cooked so many ways 04:03:38 i forget why you're telling me this but yes 04:03:39 you can pretty much live on potatoes and milk 04:06:58 you can also live off corn and beans 04:09:52 corn and beans and potatos and milk? now that's luxurey 04:10:06 do you have to nixtamalize the corn 04:10:16 not if you eat beans 04:10:23 cool 04:10:24 monqy, of course, is an ascetic living solely on human flesh. 04:10:27 although it is a good idea to do it anyway 04:10:43 the sheer variety of foods i eat in a single day is kind of staggering 04:11:08 -!- Jafet has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 04:13:27 today: lamb, eggplant, olive oil, onions, tomatoes, fava beans, garlic, pita bread, tortilla, pinto beans, chicken, avocado, rice, lettuce, hot capsicum, vinegar, etc. 04:13:31 -!- joop has joined. 04:14:24 today, I had beans and corn 04:14:39 and butter 04:15:03 I don't have much money for fancy things like lamb 04:15:11 also I'm lazy 04:17:55 yeah lamb is expensive I guess 04:18:01 meat in general is 04:18:35 yeah, pork here is almost $2 a pound 04:22:28 -!- joop has quit (Quit: Page closed). 04:27:43 -!- carado has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:49:53 `slist 04:49:55 slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot 04:50:39 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 04:59:36 -!- clog has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:06:55 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 05:14:13 kmc: Fava beans? You fool! 05:14:39 I was surprised when I found out Egyptian falafel is made of fava beans. 05:14:45 shachaf: i hear it goes nicely with monqy's diet 05:15:01 and italian wine. 05:16:11 @as monqy i don't get it what's your diet ?????? 05:16:11 Consider it noted. 05:16:46 you _could_ look up about a page in the channel. 05:17:32 i read that but didn't understand it so i thought you meant something else but now i get it its a reference to that movie which i didn't watch 05:17:45 @ask monqy NEVER MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 05:17:45 Consider it noted. 05:17:53 yes. i haven't watched it either btw. 05:18:00 fava beans nice chianti et c. 05:29:31 ais523: I seem to have been wrong re Humble Bundle ad emails not being a weekly occasion even when they have nothing else to say than the weekly sale. 05:29:42 fizzie: indeed 05:30:57 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Gnütt). 05:53:08 good 06:06:12 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:06:51 -!- copumpkin has joined. 06:13:20 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:50:01 -!- joop has joined. 06:52:17 -!- joop has quit (Client Quit). 06:58:57 -!- clog has joined. 07:11:26 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 07:13:32 -!- joop has joined. 07:13:33 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 07:14:06 -!- joop has quit (Client Quit). 07:16:10 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 07:16:41 -!- joop has joined. 07:17:14 -!- joop has quit (Client Quit). 07:22:35 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0/20130326150557]). 07:25:18 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 07:35:06 -!- doesthiswork has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 07:39:37 -!- heroux has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 07:41:44 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: leaving). 07:44:14 -!- heroux has joined. 07:56:38 -!- joop has joined. 07:58:11 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 08:00:37 -!- Taneb has joined. 08:06:10 -!- joop has quit (Quit: Page closed). 08:17:43 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 08:30:53 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 08:31:33 -!- aloril has joined. 08:37:46 -!- ais523 has quit. 08:42:43 -!- impomatic has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:57:31 AndroIRC seems to disconnect when I leave this device unattended. 08:58:01 Yes, that is a problem with it 08:58:38 Is there a better alternative? 09:00:02 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 09:00:06 I have the bouncer configured to replay some amount of backlog, but it still pops up spurious query windows and all. 09:04:37 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 09:35:55 -!- Jafet has joined. 09:48:58 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 09:49:45 -!- Taneb has joined. 10:02:48 -!- ThatOtherPerson has joined. 10:11:53 -!- WeThePeople has joined. 10:30:22 -!- TodPunk has joined. 10:32:31 -!- Tod-Autojoined has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 10:39:37 -!- sebbu has joined. 10:40:10 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 10:40:10 -!- sebbu has joined. 10:43:29 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:15:41 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:19:01 -!- fungot has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 11:21:13 -!- ThatOtherPerson has quit (Quit: Leaving). 11:32:02 -!- Taneb has joined. 11:40:03 -!- FreeFull has joined. 12:07:16 -!- WeThePeople has quit (Quit: Leaving). 12:17:20 -!- jconn has joined. 12:38:28 -!- nooodl has joined. 12:43:58 -!- Koen_ has joined. 12:44:12 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:44:23 -!- sebbu has joined. 12:44:58 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 12:44:58 -!- sebbu has joined. 12:51:21 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"). 12:51:43 -!- Koen_ has joined. 13:12:26 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 13:16:06 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 13:20:07 -!- boily has joined. 13:27:05 fizzie: android apps don't run in the background indefinitely 13:27:21 you could try whichivere flavor of connectbot has Mosh support 13:27:26 and run your IRC client on a remote server 13:31:20 kmc: android activities get GCed, but you can start always running background services. 13:31:39 (and, if you're not careful, they can be *very* always running and very hard to kill.) 13:38:57 I don't think I've had the same disconnectation problem with ConnectBot. 13:39:53 Anyway, the point was to run something with a proper text input box, the swiping and such seems to work quite differently in ConnectBot. 13:42:00 Android IRC's description page in Play says "stays connected in background". 13:42:20 (But it costs money.) 13:43:31 -!- carado has joined. 13:43:45 -!- GOMADWarrior has joined. 13:44:01 I'd try the "only replay unseen" bouncer option, but that never replays anything, because of an always-connected irssi. 13:45:37 i see 13:49:01 Perhaps I should try AndChat out, its changelog says "Tweaks to ensure service is killable when no servers connected" which sounds like it's doing a thing. 13:49:20 Or maybe it didn't support client-side SSL certificates. 13:54:09 (#firstworldproblems?) 13:55:58 s/#/\/r\// 13:56:30 (I feel like being of a corrective disposition today.) 13:57:47 -!- Taneb has joined. 14:03:46 Please don’t use / as the quote character if you’re using /s in the regexp or the substitution part. :-P 14:06:03 toothpicks shall be leaned with impunity! 14:06:52 -!- metasepia has joined. 14:11:22 -!- sirdancealot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:13:49 -!- impomatic has joined. 14:17:20 -!- sirdancealo2 has joined. 14:17:34 -!- sirdancealo2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:36:48 -!- hagb4rdoux has joined. 14:53:24 > 30000 / 9.81 14:53:26 3058.103975535168 14:53:55 > 30000 / 9.81 :: Rational 14:53:57 1000000 % 327 14:53:58 > 30000 / 9.81 :: CReal 14:53:59 3058.1039755351681957186544342507645259938838 14:58:47 haskell.org is down :( 14:59:33 -!- Lymia has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:00:39 WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO 15:00:50 oh wait I'm not a haskell person 15:01:43 Koen_, be a Haskell person 15:01:53 I don't take orders from you! 15:02:48 -!- carado has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:03:10 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 15:03:27 Koen_: be a Haskell person. 15:03:40 it doesn't work like that 15:04:00 ~echo Koen_: be a Haskell person. 15:04:01 Koen_: be a Haskell person. 15:04:14 well you could at least have hidden the command! 15:04:22 oh, right. 15:04:30 theoretically I coudl learn haskell 15:04:31 Koen_: be a Haskell person. 15:04:37 it's on my list of languages 15:04:47 but chinese and dutch are higher on that list and that's gonna take a while 15:06:00 -!- sebbu has joined. 15:06:36 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 15:06:36 -!- sebbu has joined. 15:07:00 -!- boily has set topic: Koen_ be a Haskell person. | am i wry? imo no | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 15:07:08 -!- boily has set topic: Koen_: be a Haskell person. | am i wry? imo no | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 15:07:33 there, just the right amount of motivation to motivate you to be motivated at learning Haskell sooner. 15:10:54 http://189.34.44.144:8080/magic.html 15:17:39 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 15:40:29 -!- carado has joined. 15:47:26 -!- nooodl has joined. 15:50:32 `seen ThatOtherPerson 15:50:39 2013-04-09 18:53:46: I can confirm that Canada has cities; I have been to some. 15:53:44 he probably tried to check if those cities were still real. 15:53:57 that's why ThatOtherPerson has disappeared. 15:54:26 how do we know ThatOtherPerson hasn't become another person? 15:54:40 s/hasn't/didn't 15:55:01 -!- mrout has joined. 15:55:21 probably the canadian conspiracy assassinated him for revealing too much 15:55:22 -!- mrout has quit (Quit: Page closed). 15:56:09 -!- GOMADWarrior has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 16:03:48 no one would have believed him anyway 16:03:54 -!- hagb4rdoux has changed nick to hagb4rd. 16:05:24 -!- conehead has joined. 16:16:38 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:16:46 -!- calamari has joined. 16:26:36 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 16:33:45 -!- calamari has quit (Quit: Bye). 16:34:12 -!- calamari has joined. 16:38:27 -!- calamari has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:50:09 '"Ding Dong! 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New machine is coming slowly. Sorry folks 18:27:33 wow it's just dead 18:27:43 Yeah, bad gateway here 18:27:44 too much activity??? 18:27:48 noooo my rubbernecking :( 18:27:52 everyone wants to see it crash 18:28:14 me too 18:28:34 can I buy a time machine with bitcoins so I can go back and invest a lot of money in it 18:28:37 and take it out yesterday 18:28:41 plz 18:28:43 yes 18:29:28 -!- TodPunk has joined. 18:29:29 elliott: ask ais523, he seems to know a lot about that kind of stuff 18:29:35 oh have bitcoins finally crashed 18:30:19 crashing 18:30:19 Phantom_Hoover: well, seems like they are crashing. Unfortunately bitcoinity is down so we can't all watch it. 18:30:24 down to $156 from $260+ 18:30:32 https://mtgox.com/ has the last trade price at the top 18:31:04 http://markets.blockchain.info/ died too 18:31:24 oh it does load now 18:31:27 but very slowly 18:32:12 wait what 18:32:19 the price is back up to $190? 18:32:27 so that guy who bought a pizza for 10,000 bitcoins in 2010 18:32:36 AnotherTest: a few weirdos keep buying at $200 and $190 18:32:44 could have turned it into $2.6M this morning 18:32:46 but i wouldn't say "the price" is back up to that 18:32:55 kmc: possibly trying to save it? 18:33:09 there are lots of ways to define "the price" but you might take a volume-weighted average over some time window 18:33:45 Yes, that's true 18:34:25 http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ is working 18:34:27 fwiw 18:34:31 -!- c00kiemon5ter has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 18:35:16 omg that spread 18:35:22 best bid $156 best ask $195 18:35:26 yup 18:36:34 https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32947392#p32949294 18:36:39 Is this true? 18:37:11 is what true 18:37:34 that 18:37:42 "OH NO THE MONEY IS WORTH THE SAME AS WHAT IT WAS YESTERDAY" 18:37:42 kmc: what the message says 18:37:59 you mean about NYSE? 18:38:34 can you paste so i dan't have to read 4chan at work 18:38:43 or figure out what the hell even message you're referring to 18:38:44 tia 18:39:01 people in mtgox IRC calling for them to completely halt the market for a day 18:39:06 >MagicalTux: shut it down. NYSE shuts down with there's a single day dip that's half as big as what we've seen, and in their case *they* didn't help to *cause* it 18:39:38 are you using 4chan for financial advice? 18:40:02 olsner: no, I don't read 4chan usually 18:40:03 yes, NYSE has circuit breakers 18:40:13 i think all the US equity markets have them 18:40:13 olsner: someone just sent me this though 18:41:48 i hear the spread is due to mtgox being massively lagged so everyone's trying to guess where the markets will be an hour hence 18:42:06 That sounds like a neat problem, actually. 18:42:09 yeah I think there's a panic sell that is wiping out the bid side of the book 18:42:17 while nobody bothers tending to limit sell orders 18:42:30 v.cute 18:43:11 hmm 18:43:16 https://images.4chan.org/g/src/1365616607844.gif Good thread 18:43:41 btw NYSE may be where many stocks are listed, and they have a nice looking building, but as a trading center they only have a small fraction of US equities 18:44:00 bitcoinity is back up 18:44:21 all the actual trading happens in data centers in New Jersey and those mostly aren't run by NYSE (although they eventually got around to buying the operator of one of the main ones) 18:44:26 (hmm... that stuff is still online: http://www.cgarbs.de/tentakel.en.html) 18:56:20 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:56:41 -!- GOMADWarrior has joined. 18:59:11 Mtgox trading engine lag: 4356.00s 19:02:37 -!- augur has joined. 19:07:29 how about a lang that plays out like a rpg battle 19:08:03 GOMADWarrior: you should actually make one of these things, and show it to us 19:08:20 oh hey rationalwiki has a hitpiece on david gerard 19:08:22 er 19:08:24 on bitcoins 19:08:30 and it's written by david gerard 19:08:34 what's a "hitpiece" 19:08:41 what's normal lag for a stock exchange? 19:08:42 and who's "david gerard" 19:08:44 a long explanation of why they're crap 19:08:49 sounds dull 19:09:04 it's a hitpiece because the guy who wrote it was spectacularly annoying when i knew him 19:09:13 ~duck hitpiece 19:09:14 --- No relevant information 19:09:21 ~duck david gérard 19:09:21 --- No relevant information 19:09:25 ~duck david gerard 19:09:25 By 1484 he had established himself in Bruges, where he remained until his death. 19:09:34 Phantom_Hoover: dang, PH, you're old! 19:09:36 olsner: I would guess somewhere from milliseconds to seconds, but i dunno 19:09:38 but christ he was annoying until then 19:10:56 how about a language that only has one loop statement, the infinite loop, and you have to use break to get it 19:10:59 get out* 19:11:52 not interesting 19:12:03 it's very easy to compile a for loop or normal while loop to that 19:12:12 programming in this language would not be very different 19:42:38 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 19:43:15 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 19:43:15 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 19:45:55 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:48:49 also 19:49:20 that's how some compiler compile it anyway. 19:50:55 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:54:18 -!- sebbu has joined. 19:54:56 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 19:54:56 -!- sebbu has joined. 19:55:15 -!- Taneb has joined. 19:58:08 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:59:18 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:02:53 -!- sebbu has joined. 20:03:42 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 20:04:37 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 20:05:12 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Changing host). 20:05:12 -!- sebbu3 has joined. 20:07:45 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 20:08:19 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 20:09:19 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 20:09:43 -!- sebbu3 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:16:41 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:17:10 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Robot). 20:17:41 -!- Taneb has joined. 20:18:00 -!- sebbu has joined. 20:18:29 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 20:18:29 -!- sebbu has joined. 20:20:38 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 20:20:44 -!- oerjan has joined. 20:25:49 13:54:09: (#firstworldproblems?) 20:25:49 13:55:58: s/#/\/r\// 20:25:54 boily: the channel exists. 20:26:03 only 2 members though. 20:26:49 Please don’t use / as the quote character if you’re using /s in the regexp or the substitution part. :-P 20:27:32 bah, /// ftw 20:27:59 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:28:18 -!- sebbu has joined. 20:28:31 (admittedly i used substitutions from (|) (iirc) in my bct interpreter) 20:29:35 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 20:30:14 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:30:59 '"Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead" is now in the UK midweek Top 10.' <-- XD 20:31:19 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Poulet!). 20:31:27 -!- boily has joined. 20:31:36 i _did_ notice a photograph somewhere with "The Bitch is Dead" and wondered why they didn't go all the way. 20:31:38 /close and /quit are not the same. 20:31:49 boily: wow! 20:32:09 Poulet! 20:32:56 oh, yeah. I did chickenise my quit message indeed. 20:33:00 poulet au prunes 20:33:03 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:33:10 boily: um you've had that for ages 20:33:11 «aux». 20:33:19 -!- augur has joined. 20:33:21 oh right 20:33:24 oerjan: I know. I tend to forget about the surrounding chickens. 20:33:53 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:34:01 (that book title is how i know what poulet means) 20:34:08 poulet aux vache 20:34:13 «vaches». 20:34:24 stop butchering the noble French plural, you plebeian! 20:34:27 olsner: aux goes with plural. 20:34:37 fetchez la vache! 20:34:40 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 20:35:20 people here always take English words and conjugate them in French. 20:35:41 «t'irais tu me fetcher ça s'te plaît?» 20:36:09 boily: that particular case is a quote from very intentionally butchered french, assuming i got it right. 20:36:35 je voudrais une baguette, s'il vous plait 20:37:38 oerjan: I'm currently actively abstaining from annoying the glorious citizens of this fine channel by quoting other replies from that movie. 20:37:53 je suis une petite pamplemousse avec du yeux bleu 20:38:04 olsner: wut? 20:38:08 one of only a handful pieces of french I know 20:38:24 «Je suis un petit pamplemousse avec des yeux bleus.» 20:38:33 i don't see how that could _possibly_ be annoying hth 20:38:46 * oerjan runs away 20:38:57 boily: meh, the s'es are silent anyway 20:39:14 and I never knew how to spell it 20:39:42 sometimes the plural is with s, sometimes with x, sometimes completely arbitrary. 20:40:37 -!- sebbu has joined. 20:40:37 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 20:40:37 -!- sebbu has joined. 20:41:59 (discovery of the day: poulet aux prunes is from the same woman that wrote persepolis.) 20:42:33 i know. even though i only got a handful pages into them. 20:43:11 possibly because they were actually in french. 20:43:39 (in the library. it later got a norwegian version but i didn't bother.) 20:44:01 you didn't realize it was actually french until several pages into them? 20:44:33 yes i did, but my french wasn't good enough for my patience to hold. nor was the book subject interesting enough for me. 20:44:41 *comic book 20:47:38 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:48:16 french is not a language I'm trying to learn 20:49:11 *graphic novel, i suppose 20:51:58 tswett: this bitcoin crash i see about in the logs is probably due to your new esolang, hth 20:52:21 Aha! 20:52:32 you need to know the basics in French: «bonjour», «au revoir», «merci», and «mon aéroglisseur est plein d'anguilles». 20:52:33 it gave the speculators too much power 20:52:35 I was trying to think of the French phrase for "comic book" a few weeks ago! 20:53:02 bande dessinée is comic iirc 20:53:11 I was close 20:53:17 I had arte instead of bande 20:53:26 arte? 20:53:59 My pretty much non-existent knowledge of French playing up 20:54:16 ah. no worries, then. 20:55:26 oerjan: I agree. 20:56:20 Mt. Gox says the last trade price is $189; what kind of crash is that? 20:56:21 boily: you forgot something about ears and bananas imo 20:56:46 Oh, it was up to, like, $240. 20:57:32 oerjan: quoi? je t'entends pas, j'ai une banane dans l'oreille. 20:57:37 Wow, Bitcoins are deflated 20:57:55 boily: and something about eating glass 20:58:28 Taneb: there was a big DDOS attack I heard 20:58:42 the price is back up to $190 but like, all the trades are executing with huge delays and stuff 20:58:53 oerjan: I'll have to check that one up. can't remember what's the "official" québécois translation. I think it goes like this: «j'mange d'la vitre pis ça me fait pas mal». 20:59:06 (the weighted average price is still really high so I'm guessing very few trades executed at the lower prices?) 20:59:07 I'm tempted to write some sort of automatic trading program and seed it with, like, ten bucks. See how quickly I can turn it into a hundred thousand. 20:59:29 shouldn't take more than a week... 20:59:44 I'm guessing HFT is a little tricky at least on mtgox, since they charge a 0.6% fee per transaction 20:59:47 It was $13 a few weeks ago 21:00:37 another piece of french I may know wrong: les poisson cru est salée 21:01:04 that was in the "things that french people will find funny about sweden" chapter of the french books 21:01:09 «Le poisson cru est salé.» 21:01:24 the ddos strategies are kind of evil though, it's like, ddos the exchanging, cause panic selling, buy at lower prices, stop ddos, sell -_- 21:01:28 *the exchanges 21:01:53 Fiora: the hours of lag might be a bigger obstacle to HFT? 21:02:19 well yes trying to do HFT during a DDOS is probably a horrid idea too XD 21:02:27 i think the "DDoS" is that a bunch of people tried to sell their bitcoins all at once 21:02:33 and MtGox is shitty so this caused them to fall over 21:02:41 $13 was a few months ago 21:02:53 tromp_, I've lost all track of time 21:02:54 oerjan: found the canonical glass form: «J'peux bouffer d'la vitre, ça m'fa pas mal.» 21:03:09 tswett: just because the last trade was at $189 doesn't mean that "the price has recovered" to there 21:03:18 boily: merci beaucoup 21:03:26 the weighted average is probably the best thing to look at 21:03:26 throughought the crash there were people occasionally buying for $40+ more than the rest of the trades 21:03:29 the spreads got crazy huge 21:03:31 yes 21:03:35 ($198) 21:03:36 volume-weighted average price is legit 21:03:41 so what's that down to 21:03:43 Fiora: really? over what time window? 21:03:50 oh 21:03:51 I think it's one day 21:03:57 welp 21:04:01 let's see what it is tomorrow :) 21:04:01 But like, I watched it during the crash, it didn't go down much 21:04:06 that's not true 21:04:07 I'm guessing very few trades were executing during it 21:04:12