< 1368144536 855566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Contrary to popular belief, there are people out there using Smalltalk on the web. Two of them." < 1368144571 239079 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nextthing.org/archives/2005/08/07/fun-with-http-headers < 1368144677 117351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Opera supported Cookies 2 in 2005. Wonder if it still does. < 1368144693 888860 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is cookies 2 a lack of cookies < 1368144772 485089 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Why anyone would think to themselves, “Gee, if a massively scalable caching service running on hundreds of geographically distributed computers can’t handle the load of people wanting to look at my site, I’ll just have them bounce people back at me”, I don’t know. Masochism perhaps?' < 1368144798 853907 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, dublin core < 1368144818 315823 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a kind of music < 1368144900 930451 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wow someone using purl < 1368145040 866856 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should start using it again or something < 1368145224 731627 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8711584/x-pad-avoid-browser-bug-header-added-by-apache < 1368145334 530604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how very silly. < 1368145398 544663 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if any of these easter egg headers end up being a security risk < 1368145425 898828 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if some server was outputting ... something interesting, just because it could, and then that interesting thing ends up in a spec < 1368145479 87132 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, maybe in some language, Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * is a really hilarious joke, so someone back in 2003 or so put it in their response < 1368145507 591356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumber things have happened but i can't think of one offhand < 1368145550 739573 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that picqued my interest < 1368145572 582117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :picarded my interest < 1368145583 487854 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to spell picqued < 1368145584 668457 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the headers on the page seem particularly vulnerable to that < 1368145596 264744 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :picqed? piqued? < 1368145596 977326 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless we standardize limericks at some point? < 1368145609 697055 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn picqued < 1368145610 733787 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "picqued". < 1368145617 75853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give up < 1368145619 700771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's piqued. No red squigglies. < 1368145625 747422 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :squigglies gets the squigglies. < 1368145629 556585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn piqued < 1368145630 476366 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "piqued". < 1368145640 233667 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU BASTARDS JUST HAD TO DRAW ME BACK IN < 1368145698 241486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368145748 78025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :picante my interest < 1368145824 59062 :Dandalion!~Dan@209.118.213.226 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1368145832 953687 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :peaked? < 1368145838 464689 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly a real word, at least. < 1368145884 573903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means something else < 1368145908 334522 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 QUIT :Quit: pickle. < 1368145928 155602 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's 'piqued' < 1368145928 340868 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368145930 944023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you wn < 1368145953 338504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :peeked my interest < 1368146129 800018 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368146310 170451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368146314 378804 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there encryption schemes in which keys can be of a certain length or any arbitrary length larger? < 1368146342 282674 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hmm, how to exclude one-time pads from being a valid answer...) < 1368146347 708672 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*practical < 1368146381 321884 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying one time pads aren't practical or < 1368146489 257435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can periodically rotate keys < 1368146499 72341 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A better and less insulting way to exclude OTPs, for the reason I want to exclude them: can be of a certain length or arbitrary length larger, where the only reason to increase key size is to increase security and not as a result of neccessity due to larger amounts of material to encrypt or decrypt < 1368146556 705235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of systems where an actual encryption key is derived from an arbitrary-length passphrase or such < 1368146580 662790 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368146656 195981 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1368146675 65537 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wanted to be sure that there wasn't any value in the scheme that some guy at tech club came up with < 1368146741 72153 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368146746 241829 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Consisting of randomizing the order that a bunch of schemes are done in) < 1368146759 577588 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And amount, and which schemes are used < 1368146796 810897 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i did something pretty cool https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15495351/r909.zip < 1368146809 690927 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;__; < 1368146816 744107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368146818 740236 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a semi-faithful recreation of revolution 909 (the daft punk song) < 1368146823 38244 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in under 60 kB < 1368146823 576487 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate downloading zips but I'de love to take a look < 1368146836 711700 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(zipped) < 1368146862 538363 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15495351/r909.mod unzipped it's just over 100 kB which isn't as cool < 1368146863 163632 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what format? < 1368146865 948397 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1368146869 59403 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, sounds sweet so far < 1368146885 644445 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it loops btw < 1368146894 618378 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexy < 1368146900 232893 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@.@ < 1368146900 921261 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . @ < 1368146902 711427 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1368146916 526623 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make a language that is designed to make music. < 1368146934 261542 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mod? < 1368146937 404603 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1368146960 216964 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amiga module file < 1368146972 664844 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like vlc should be able to play it < 1368146982 558964 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine code : asm :: .mod : JesseH's language? < 1368146984 144686 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make a brainfuck variant. < 1368146991 838403 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That outputs music. < 1368146996 418901 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1368146997 735036 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1368147002 799340 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :By directly interpreting how the tape pointer moves < 1368147006 242274 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, maybe JesseH should just use .mod as the language < 1368147012 533790 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :With no other interface < 1368147015 423495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://countercomplex.blogspot.com/2011/10/algorithmic-symphonies-from-one-line-of.html < 1368147015 965181 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, right um..maybe < 1368147022 861458 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1368147078 93573 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1368147114 521035 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1368147149 992472 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Client Quit < 1368147175 402458 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what, vlc totally screws it up < 1368147176 414502 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :music's always been based on modular arithmetic, really < 1368147184 123119 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess you'll need modplug or something < 1368147225 722398 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :modplay?? < 1368147271 196602 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368147366 288627 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368147478 924856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1368148119 224195 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'In 2008, an iPhone app called Pull My Finger was one of the most popular apps in Apple's App Store, purchased over 50,000 times in less than one week. It allowed users to pull a virtual finger, activating the sound. The phrase is now the focus of a legal battle between Pull My Finger and iFart over the use of the phrase.' < 1368148251 512612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric is now the focus of a legal battle between Pull My Finger and iFart | Chinese graphics card problem resolved! (Again!) | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://code.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1368148264 317874 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric is now the focus of a legal battle between Pull My Finger and iFart | Chinese graphics card problem resolved! (Again!) | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1368148383 425179 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between those two topics? < 1368148408 848578 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :code.org < 1368148413 255684 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1368149088 505235 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1368150041 667291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1368150073 989924 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1368151023 191668 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368151515 653248 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Watchmen is DC? < 1368151522 624489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was just... its own universe or something < 1368151532 621730 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Still haven't started reading, but received it today) < 1368151719 857193 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's /published/ by DC, that doesn't mean it's part of the universe with superman and all. < 1368152514 38076 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, ok. < 1368152587 389473 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's their "Vertigo" imprint, that they use for weird stuff. iirc. < 1368154212 40947 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368154285 921254 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368154311 240399 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368154342 757105 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Vertigo" imprint is for stuff that is for "more mature audiences". < 1368154351 345445 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless of whether or not it's in the DC verse. < 1368154361 427782 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, Sandman is in the DC verse, but it's Vertigo. < 1368154667 943395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing tip: Every paragraph should be a run-on sentence (i.e. a sentence (like this one) with many (i.e. more than 20) words) and if you (meaning the author) need to define any terms (i.e. words which the reader (meaning someone reading your document) may not know) then just tack them on (as a parenthetical (i.e. in parentheses)) at the first use of the term (also, if you have any unrelated further thoughts, tack them onto the end of < 1368154755 57217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how chomsky says language is recursive and then i can't handle more than one level of parenthetical if it's not at the end < 1368154823 912917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear that german is a stack based language where all the verbs go at the end < 1368154825 734853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1368154853 104569 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard that too < 1368154866 679223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is currently trying to read a document written in this style and stab stab stab stab stab < 1368154873 545167 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the thing is, right < 1368154896 882211 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :left? < 1368154899 823024 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the REAL problem with embedding is when its subject relatives < 1368154909 615234 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the subject has a relative clause < 1368154913 978521 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which the subject has a relative clause < 1368154917 645655 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like < 1368154949 992977 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the man that (the boy that ate pizza) met) is tall < 1368154957 771743 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :center embedding is fun as hell yes < 1368154976 279571 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one level deeper, bad < 1368154976 739577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the person who wrote this document is a lot smarter than me (likely) and can handle more recursion < 1368154982 74608 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its because the embedding is in the subject < 1368154993 330677 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :put that embedding anywhere else and its fine, or at least MUCH better < 1368155011 175171 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and interestingly, you get significantly better at these bad ones when you're around people who use them < 1368155016 678693 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a processing issue somehow. < 1368155021 621217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the man that the boy that the girl at the store saw met is tall < 1368155026 141745 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also very interestingly, japanese MUST use center embedding < 1368155030 270566 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its a headfinal language < 1368155034 787341 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have no problems with it at all < 1368155065 244258 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice also that we have a lot of leftward WH dependencies there < 1368155078 940227 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saw looks left for its object "the boy" < 1368155087 100925 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :met looks left for its object "the man" < 1368155098 979716 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a LOT of leftward dependencies as a whole too < 1368155114 296975 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the verb ones are leftward here < 1368155116 946751 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1368155119 413616 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really rare for english < 1368155130 593452 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so theres probably some kind of parsing optimization thats happened < 1368155140 923033 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But utterly mundane in Japanese... < 1368155144 950839 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1368155159 744028 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :center embedding in japanese is par for the course < 1368155187 689994 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, despite SVO and OVS word order options, you still get lots of center embedding. < 1368155220 576364 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when you use SOV... Yeah. < 1368155227 556291 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1368155281 275108 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S (((O V) O V) O) V < 1368155287 106592 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1368155291 102030 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find for japanese. < 1368155312 781738 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's kinda how the parsing goes. < 1368155341 675772 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I think Japaneses use the same strategy as left-recursive parsers? < 1368155348 287709 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((O V) S) ((O V) O) V too. < 1368155359 249094 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noone knows how parsing works in natural language :P < 1368155370 102241 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but just a hypothesis. < 1368155372 867000 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :S (((O V) O V) O) V is german too, right? < 1368155404 861303 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FYI Korean is similar (Japanese and Korean shares the common grammatical structure) < 1368155413 110498 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I guess maybe also S V (((O V) O V) O) V < 1368155421 458588 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly i shouldn't pretend to know shit about linguistics in the future < 1368155425 52238 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Korean and Japanese have stunningly similar grammar from what I've seen. < 1368155456 646335 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the best argument for them being (distantly) related. < 1368155462 75610 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :german is maybe SOV < 1368155470 98290 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in main clauses where its XV... < 1368155474 620382 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: is it a combination of SOV and SVO? < 1368155475 642901 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :verb second with some focal thing first < 1368155484 346603 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it* < 1368155488 740085 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and except for subclauses which are after the verb/noun < 1368155516 265959 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: not quite < 1368155523 108435 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1368155524 168162 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a V2 language, which means verb second < 1368155529 14080 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "topic" comes first < 1368155531 213974 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then everything else < 1368155537 448768 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everything else looks SOV < 1368155539 854421 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1368155554 759621 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really tho its probably SVO underlyingly < 1368155576 279610 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've learned German a bit (and almost completely forgotten it now) and I think I've seen both structures < 1368155600 91691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/4J7Il0m.jpg stupid future < 1368155647 759987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not as good as http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Koverto-kun-krakozjabroj.png and you know it < 1368155676 37556 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mojibake~~ < 1368155692 762408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both good ok < 1368155694 768390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in different ways < 1368155696 969341 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted < 1368155700 309627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate show "" < 1368155705 849733 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368155706 64150 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368155711 913742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot you're the worst < 1368155712 487101 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t iterate < 1368155717 469851 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a -> [a] < 1368155720 735818 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 20 $ iterate show "" < 1368155726 700497 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1368155726 919477 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: Prelude.undefined < 1368155727 749510 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow < 1368155727 967813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot needs to go to rehab or something < 1368155735 529710 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oi! this isnt #haskell < 1368155757 434705 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'Nor is it #jsoftware' < 1368155757 759320 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: +--------------------+ < 1368155757 978431 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: |Nor is it #jsoftware| < 1368155757 978624 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: +--------------------+ < 1368155766 510345 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm confused by this idea that this isn't #haskell < 1368155773 219474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#j-erkoffs < 1368155775 719124 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is #esoteric < 1368155780 670383 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1368155783 496684 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit you're right < 1368155784 123895 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its where we walk about implementing haskell in brainfuck < 1368155795 44246 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PART #esoteric :"oops sorry" < 1368155803 842800 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1368155813 31088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (concatMap (let f '&' = "&"; f x = [x] in f)) "fish & chips" < 1368155815 469876 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368155816 507003 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["fish & chips","fish & chips","fish &amp; chips","fish &amp;am... < 1368155820 477244 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to come up with better jokes. < 1368155823 206168 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: youll fit in here nicely :) < 1368155958 431522 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1368156280 286664 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t show < 1368156284 128063 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show a => a -> String < 1368156297 171744 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate show "" < 1368156299 459337 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["","\"\"","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\... < 1368156311 633734 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't that... but... buh. < 1368156408 743481 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so TOPIC #esoteric :‮#esoteric is now the focus of a legal battle between Pull My Finger and iFart | Chinese graphics card problem resolved! (Again!) | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1368156462 396768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i do something wrong gregor < 1368156482 344159 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: If the topic looks unchanged to you, your Unicode support sucks :) < 1368156532 382645 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v_v < 1368156562 785330 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not seeing the difference. < 1368156569 941507 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Care to identify it? < 1368156611 237335 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if it's Unicode breakage I know about, or Unicode breakage I don't know about. :) < 1368156809 124584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.byond.com/members/Sgeo?command=view_post&post=135032&first_unread=1 < 1368156826 446697 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ‮I put a Unicode right-to-left override at the beginning. < 1368156840 514721 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the Unicode breakage I know about then. < 1368156847 529759 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't know if I rediscovered that concept, that you still need to know something about a 'new type', or if it's this thread that made me realize < 1368156882 427981 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "better implemented using eval()" lolololol < 1368157236 873018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should relearn DM < 1368157379 39508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark magic? < 1368157385 853440 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really a lot of what it provides could be done by libraries... well, and a client that knows how to talk to the library < 1368157396 973707 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.byond.com/developer/articles/whitepaper < 1368157407 1596 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a copy of some grimoire somewhere, it's amazingly boring < 1368157410 339294 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't need an entire new programming language for this < 1368157412 535668 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1368157419 337483 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're supposed to start out by meditating for hours straight < 1368157421 844714 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snore!! < 1368158593 13569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An integer, in the context of computing, is a variable capable of representing a real number with no fractional part." < 1368158596 13777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sobs < 1368158893 428130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's copumpkin's birthday? < 1368158901 64666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy birthday copumpkin < 1368159104 50852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopumpkin < 1368159121 467171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bropumpkins before hopumpkins < 1368159333 709639 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368159336 156554 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! :) < 1368159456 728226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368159468 12236 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just saw the word rebus < 1368159483 303899 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of the only other place I have seen that word -- a computer game for teaching math < 1368159495 87961 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shoudl look for that came < 1368159496 227622 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :game < 1368159578 768004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rebuses before jebuses < 1368162085 376771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Second Life, Cloud Party and Virtual Paradise allow you to reserve a unique name for free. Additionally, none of them suffer from the lowercase “L” and “I” impersonation issue that has been present since 1995.' < 1368162109 12580 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snort < 1368162189 621187 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a comment on FB < 1368162190 601989 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Telegrams have been going missing for over a decade. Chrispeg has never been able to fix it. I've lost thousands of telegrams due to AW's bugs. AWI is aware of these issues but never does anything about it.' < 1368167493 181835 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: An integer is an integer < 1368167549 131053 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :?faq Are integers integers? < 1368167549 309242 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that. < 1368167558 320457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1368167583 677291 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't very helpful, lambdabot < 1368167586 255024 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1368167625 167582 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integers are integers in Haskell < 1368167654 552671 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proof there are infinitely many Integers: < 1368167660 503216 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maxBound :: Integer < 1368167663 821957 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Enum.Bounded GHC.Integer.Type.Integer) < 1368167664 212 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from... < 1368167668 395923 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368167681 970274 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta go < 1368167683 126972 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1368167725 482405 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1368167727 467363 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1368168246 196212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1368168249 110814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that clears it all up < 1368168292 67065 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTEGERS < 1368168359 58440 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :##jesseh is how this channel should look < 1368168397 219456 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have lost our way < 1368168402 690651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who < 1368168405 751057 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is jesse < 1368168429 772622 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JesseH made an esolang called derplang. his channel ##jesseh is full of discussion about it. < 1368168453 779979 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the language is a simplified basic except you write everything on one line) < 1368168479 264831 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how full < 1368168479 450396 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well depending on what xth part of the program means < 1368168484 277604 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's harder < 1368168486 148357 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1368168492 229056 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 people < 1368168502 35790 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway gotta go < 1368169128 151628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will never understand channels named after people < 1368169229 138630 :ion!~ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s why you’re not on #elliott and the rest of us are. < 1368169297 564144 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17118.996066] pool[12036]: segfault at 7f4003a062d0 ip 00007f4002cf507d sp 00007f40002fdc60 error 4 in libc-2.13.so[7f4002c7e000+180000] <-- isn't it fun with segfaults you have zero clue what they refer to < 1368169346 660282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :go digging < 1368169352 668867 :ion!~ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gigging < 1368169358 343275 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find a binary named "pool" anywhere on my system < 1368169374 579022 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in /usr, /lib, /bin or /sbin anyway < 1368169430 266037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:03:45 [Users #elliott] < 1368169430 494167 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:03:45 [@elliott] < 1368169443 906103 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the official elliott channel. all elliott, all the time. < 1368169453 414744 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, processes can modify what shows up in ps aux I know, but is the name listed in dmesg the modified value? < 1368169461 140982 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so I probably have no chance of finding it < 1368169479 261763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: literally my life < 1368169599 878947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i don't know < 1368169617 66465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the ip value is probably from a random offset < 1368169621 591600 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is at times like this when a locate database would be helpful, I don't have one, since usually the indexing is more annoying and I very rarely use the feature... < 1368169694 498307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has kmc bought me a computer yet < 1368169732 880127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no why would i < 1368169733 402607 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368169754 755161 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368169773 411603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that's your new job! < 1368169811 663478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it pay < 1368169849 388612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1368169850 22421 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368169855 794016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll pay you however much the computer costs < 1368169872 729248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i tell you the computer costs £10,000 < 1368169886 732374 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, cheap for an industrial computer! < 1368169891 109107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be upset you exploited me like that < 1368169896 652510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know you're a better person than that < 1368169901 872863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw thanks < 1368169918 54159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why not buy one yourself? < 1368169925 281614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i'd have to pick one < 1368169936 327150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm officially retired from thinking about computers ever again < 1368169936 512457 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, laptop? < 1368169940 270031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1368169960 950397 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well then I would suggest kmc gets you a rack mounted server. < 1368169963 501585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my criteria are: it should be good; it should annoy me less than this one does; i should be able to run ghc on it < 1368169984 935545 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, should it be portable or not? < 1368170006 419362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1368170037 586523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :small computers are certainly less fussy and it's not inconceivable i'd want to take it places < 1368170040 876634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, screen real estate < 1368170041 62365 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, okay, get a rack mounted server and put dual GTX Titans in it! < 1368170079 540624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, I guess a related question, I've noticed after ~8 months my laptop has started to accumulate small bits of screen damage probably from me carting it to work every single day and it not being really designed for that < 1368170086 686449 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, also a SAN solution with SSDs in RAID10 < 1368170092 292223 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some way to avoid that happening when carting it around, or is it pretty much going to happen? < 1368170099 514035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a sony laptop at the store that had SSDs in RAID0 < 1368170103 353650 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like. are there after-market screen replacements or does one just have to replace the laptop <_> < 1368170127 242121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually the manufacturer can do a replacement, or you can buy a new panel on ebay and do it yourself < 1368170127 635936 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, the screen area itself? Or the back of it? < 1368170137 685625 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, SSDs in RAID0? < 1368170141 50924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1368170142 17287 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1368170150 322685 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would never ever use RAID0 for anything < 1368170154 302643 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :too paranoid for that < 1368170155 480977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for super speed < 1368170159 102445 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: um.... well like, it looks like the damage is ""behind"" the screen surface? < 1368170162 411972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think you can get replacement stuff (but i don't know anything about it) < 1368170178 660831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think sony basically started with the idea "if we made a $3,000 laptop, some people will buy it" and worked backwards from there < 1368170190 965461 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, so not on the back on the laptop then? The backside of the monitor with all the logos and so on < 1368170201 174655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with ThinkPads it is pretty easy to get replacement part numbers and repair manuals < 1368170209 356483 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1368170217 571316 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, like, the screen, the thing that makes light and displays stuff < 1368170221 261176 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.. < 1368170231 494698 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess replacement would be needed. not sure how to protect against it < 1368170236 288236 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a toughbook maybe? < 1368170241 967143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had lots of blue LEDs of course < 1368170258 275961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what does the screen damage look like? < 1368170299 252210 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: um... in one place there's what looks sort of like a spec of black dirt behind the screen (but not like dead pixels) < 1368170303 218072 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it doesn't look pixelly < 1368170307 352329 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1368170310 330135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1368170313 921159 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in another there's like a slightly dark spot a few mm wide < 1368170317 344622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't had that happen with my thinkpads, I don't think < 1368170324 33016 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen that either < 1368170333 775781 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably my fault for carting this thing around 30 minutes a day every day < 1368170335 706051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have cracked LCD panels but that's huge and bovious < 1368170338 955818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvious too < 1368170349 590766 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably doing dumb things like dropping it because I'm a klutz < 1368170350 146120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bovious, adj: of or pertaining to cows < 1368170357 985126 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the toughbook looks ridiculously heavy < 1368170387 652432 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My LCD panels usually just end up getting dimmer over time. And usually for my desktop the backlight fails. Every single LCD that failed on me, it was the backlight. < 1368170416 276689 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, well yeah, but they are durable < 1368170428 12436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what manufacturer is your laptop from? < 1368170454 96995 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a sager np9150 < 1368170454 433703 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know only one guy who managed to break a toughbook. < 1368170523 703267 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he works as an ambulance driver, so rather rough conditions < 1368170651 513957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it happen < 1368170674 326018 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, he managed to drop it about 2.5 meters, and the HDD popped right out of it. < 1368170707 135847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1368170715 579852 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that shouldn't usually happen with those < 1368170743 997477 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, not rugged enough I say, I work with far more rugged hardware daily. < 1368170773 169015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(industrial computers for mining equipment) < 1368170824 287350 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they are often in conditions with high temperature, high humidity and salty water) < 1368170842 739467 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah well I work with computers in SPACE!! < 1368170847 263965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops made of nebulae < 1368170850 573529 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1368170918 664394 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what is the IP classing? < 1368170959 628523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you work with computers inside of cows < 1368170989 428249 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-190-48.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368171025 147738 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1368171025 975199 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what < 1368171035 900035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you ever been inside a cow? pretty rough conditions imo < 1368171044 326205 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, ? < 1368171047 783450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was born inside of a cow < 1368171051 588492 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ip classing what are you talking about < 1368171057 943284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code < 1368171064 768203 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1368171073 851192 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bbl really, have to leave for a while < 1368171122 509456 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i don't know if i'll ever get used to people believing things i say < 1368171302 121631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike. < 1368171305 520085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was Vorpal's attempt at a joke. < 1368171405 389194 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some next-level shit. < 1368171436 822768 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368174136 840367 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My GPU fan decided to jump to silly level after the resuming from suspend to ram. What < 1368174143 788724 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sensor 0: Temperature - 40.00 C < 1368174143 974121 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fan Speed: 60% < 1368174152 388678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try rebooting I guess < 1368174165 577945 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens to me sometimes too, like when the battery mysteriously won't charge or the fan is stuck on max or things < 1368174168 861763 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why < 1368174173 169051 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, this is on a desktop though < 1368174182 16458 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, geez, even weirder < 1368174202 724653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess I'll have to reboot, can't see any other option... < 1368174204 399483 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1368174382 394859 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah rebooting helped < 1368174400 690476 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sensor 0: Temperature - 41.00 C < 1368174400 875577 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fan Speed: 21% < 1368174445 129774 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want a linux computer that actually works perfectly, either get a server or a thinkpad with intel graphics and intel wifi < 1368174447 273828 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1368174491 213946 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, ^ < 1368174524 890171 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This computer can't even properly suspend to disk, it just doesn't work. Neither in windows nor linux. < 1368174550 826212 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume suspend to disk was easier than suspend to ram wrt. hardware dependencies < 1368174579 86591 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just save ram to disk, shut down, on boot check if we should load ram from disk < 1368174589 116233 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, seems it isn't that easy < 1368174602 970561 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eesh < 1368174620 767906 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why does distcc always fail to start at boot: Fri May 10 10:25:11 2013: [....] Starting Distributed Compiler Daemon: distccd[....] /etc/init.d/distcc: start failed with error code 102 ...^[[?25l^[[?1c^[7^[[1G[^[[33mwarn^[[39;49m^[8^[[?25h^[[?0c ^[[33m(warning).^[[39;49m < 1368174626 399378 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :works fine to start it after boot < 1368174674 993356 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :" 102 Bind failed." < 1368174684 419896 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but network is up at that point < 1368174687 101275 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked that < 1368174758 630367 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yes the color codes are messed up in /var/log/boot < 1368174768 589073 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it give a more detailed error or something? < 1368174781 789745 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, "error code 102" is as far as I got < 1368174787 118398 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3621960.html#3621960 < 1368174789 957334 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it work after boot I don't know how to debug it < 1368174795 270098 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it puts more things in the log? < 1368174802 965372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/var/log/everything/current" < 1368174804 298100 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm gentoo, on debian though < 1368174818 43948 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows nothing about distros... and okay probably nothing about linux < 1368174818 373380 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess /var/log/messages for me < 1368174846 419564 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay /var/log/distccd.log < 1368174862 98049 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :distccd[9483] (dcc_remove_pid) Warning: failed to remove pid file /var/run/distccd.pid: Permission denied < 1368174862 283626 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :distccd[3196] (dcc_listen_by_addr) ERROR: bind of 192.168.1.65:3632 failed: Cannot assign requested address < 1368174862 468947 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :distccd[6821] (dcc_remove_pid) Warning: failed to remove pid file /var/run/distccd.pid: Permission denied < 1368174862 469124 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :distccd[13778] (dcc_remove_pid) Warning: failed to remove pid file /var/run/distccd.pid: Permission denied < 1368174862 654013 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :distccd[3128] (dcc_listen_by_addr) ERROR: bind of 192.168.1.65:3632 failed: Cannot assign requested address < 1368174865 894679 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay? < 1368174878 329731 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't it assign that address? I have no idea, the network should be up < 1368174890 786488 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone in the thread was talking about a --listen thing or something < 1368174895 766244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't it remove the pid file? I have no idea < 1368174941 436961 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is configured in /etc/default/distcc on Debian < 1368174977 363860 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my listen address is correct < 1368174987 363449 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I can tell < 1368174998 890921 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want it on IPv6, so I need to restrict which IP < 1368175023 596372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a dhcp thing? < 1368175058 623426 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I could try switching to static IP, the thing is, /etc/init.d/distcc lists network as a dependency < 1368175070 459509 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it only depends on part of the network? Say IPv6 for exampl < 1368175072 773473 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :example* < 1368175098 594224 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll investigate that < 1368175119 417983 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"$network low level networking (ethernet card; may imply PCMCIA running)" < 1368175127 566387 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that wasn't helpful at all < 1368175163 513947 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess static ip might help if that is the issue < 1368175195 773094 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368175200 545341 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or figure out how to say "I need eth0 up and running and IP assigned to it < 1368175225 363943 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do have "always same IP" from DHCP, so that isn't the issue) < 1368175278 606231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG 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1368180188 912878 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1368180195 5678 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1368183021 586723 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1368183863 253099 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368183936 602588 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1368189311 744819 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368189403 927333 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368191216 809858 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1368191306 318572 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1368192453 44960 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368192498 13943 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368192695 56271 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368192703 501087 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368192856 552047 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368193412 858774 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hey tim shachaf is doing an "a m a" < 1368193425 229712 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t undefined :: a m a < 1368193426 551787 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expecting two more arguments to `a' < 1368193426 736947 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In an expression type signature: a m a < 1368193426 737126 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: undefined :: a m a < 1368193452 956105 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tim? < 1368193490 926930 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was hoping for an inscrutable kind error < 1368193518 501672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: tim shacfer < 1368193608 111665 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm topic is backwards but link points correctly, i smell a right-to-left marker < 1368193633 581816 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone working on a eso lang? :D < 1368193642 247193 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368193676 978057 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368193697 657071 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1368193735 38490 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1368193928 980774 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368193958 216873 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368194159 216597 :sirdancealot!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368194237 406519 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1368194246 565233 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368194526 261715 :sirdancealo2!~sirdancea@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1368195983 218793 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-163-254.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368196011 219989 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368197200 206163 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-163-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know how to send a pull request on github from the command line? < 1368197203 156523 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT : < 1368197221 82437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :carefully < 1368197249 593039 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-163-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you elliott < 1368197252 838345 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-163-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very helpful < 1368197256 929558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1368197257 695938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any time < 1368197359 789065 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests < 1368197367 602301 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do it from terminal? < 1368197378 750458 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO YOU NOT HAVE GUIZ? < 1368197379 75652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you managed to be even less helpful than me < 1368197404 749056 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not :P < 1368197416 125345 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sorta just said "carefully" unless I'm hallucinating. < 1368197438 179330 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have him a link of how the documentation tells you to do it, hinting that there might not be a way to do it from terminal. < 1368197470 168868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: anyway i think there is a "hub" command line tool thing that lets you do it < 1368197566 981033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-163-254.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JesseH: telling someone to take care because it could be difficult is a lot more helpful than saying "give up now, there's an easier way to do it" < 1368197588 188679 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1368199302 584598 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368199339 372215 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1368199339 558501 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368199500 871741 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1368201599 643541 :npnth!~npnth@pdpc/supporter/active/npnth JOIN :#esoteric < 1368201711 2757 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368201818 499505 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-163-254.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368202095 225057 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-163-254.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368202314 58177 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368202669 507423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368202760 202857 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368203337 714049 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368203435 937217 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-163-254.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1368203441 484267 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1368203600 981587 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: catseye.tc has expired; i changed the catseye template to use the wayback template, i hope this doesn't break too much. < 1368203890 88463 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by which i mean, WE ARE ALL DOOMED HTH) < 1368203956 703856 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, web-routes and hamlet are almost but not quite compatible what do i do < 1368203985 317049 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: give up hth < 1368204009 220747 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm all out of up! < 1368204023 922198 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if I had any up, I wouldn't know to whom to give it! < 1368204091 811980 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now oerjan < 1368204093 982519 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now < 1368204119 606635 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you are doomed, of course. hth. < 1368204341 232582 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368204508 562018 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368204526 739175 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the only difference is in web-routes there's something that's Maybe Text when in hamlet (and all the other shakespeare templating things) it is just Text) < 1368204641 143660 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: In case it isn't clear I have never used a haskell web framework in my life hth < 1368204765 119156 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, now that oerjan has left who should I complain to < 1368205221 250401 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOURSELF < 1368205563 791808 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you're doorned < 1368205651 109589 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On an unrelated note, I believe that in base 30, 1/11 has a ten-digit long repeating part < 1368205723 999589 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1368205741 140412 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Acually, 15 digits < 1368205767 436551 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, oh, wait. Base 30 < 1368205772 574106 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1368205956 896316 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly I should complain to the Yesod guys < 1368206118 943140 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-90-142.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368206270 217696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-204.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368206680 11847 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-214-90-142.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1368207409 680475 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-128-198.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1368207661 90781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1368207866 492530 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368208141 490937 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368208270 178161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-246.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368208500 973216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368208503 566388 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1368208919 404337 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1368209797 534773 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-70.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1368210035 203425 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368210488 330297 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368210505 94369 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368211164 988828 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368211182 545419 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch ‮ < 1368211190 235007 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1368211192 937395 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1368211194 834041 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‮ \ bin \ canary \ etc \ factor \ hbDf \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ maze \ maze.c \ paste \ pref \ q \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ testbot \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ Test.o \ wisdom < 1368211198 617950 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outstanding. < 1368211216 147945 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1368211219 558267 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-246.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something looks wrong with that < 1368211234 471749 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368211238 841991 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :‮I have no idea what you're talking about. < 1368211253 581557 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Taneb < 1368211254 398091 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Fri May 10 19:40:53 < 1368211321 977518 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-90-142.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368211417 508011 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1368212252 952615 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368212373 71893 :ion!~ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :More potential esoteric language names based on movie spam bots. http://hpaste.org/browse?author=Swarovski < 1368212438 798536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --esolangs 20 < 1368212440 950963 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :trude alpl binata stre-cal anothesquid grave gechang squatre zot tri bam128 brain subleq ext() goto++ billgolfscriptimefuck-2d code lazy twist dobelta < 1368212468 193290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :billgolfscriptimefuck-2d sounds like quite the language. < 1368212553 558270 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh yeah < 1368212684 291470 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vorpal phone of talking, now with 12.5% more communication* < 1368212687 664450 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368212708 185782 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368212726 4850 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Andchat crashed... < 1368212793 852999 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tends to do that. < 1368212844 949031 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right... < 1368212874 466286 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So i saw boily highlight me, then crash... < 1368212887 191336 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you say? < 1368212911 160221 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the vorpal phone of talking, now with 12.5% more communication* < 1368212915 841227 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crash* < 1368212920 721423 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1368212925 760970 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no crash? < 1368212944 295077 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1368212945 634140 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, you should not pay attention to my ramblings, especially on Fridays. < 1368212945 819521 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates insomnia! < 1368212980 278192 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to switch AP might disconnect < 1368213030 403015 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368213031 264727 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368213033 300501 :VorpalPhone_!~Vorpal@2001:16d8:fff2:0:e4a9:1ef:b6a2:ed JOIN :#esoteric < 1368213048 285508 :VorpalPhone_!~Vorpal@2001:16d8:fff2:0:e4a9:1ef:b6a2:ed PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which sucks, since technically I'm still on the same network. < 1368213081 251770 :VorpalPhone_!~Vorpal@2001:16d8:fff2:0:e4a9:1ef:b6a2:ed NICK :VorpalPhone < 1368213089 388746 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@2001:16d8:fff2:0:e4a9:1ef:b6a2:ed QUIT :Client Quit < 1368213138 254141 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1368213166 688371 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1368213361 392918 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :VorpalPhone: ‮How's AndChat's Unicode support? < 1368213415 72048 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Varying... Between device orientations < 1368213431 191207 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ã“ã‚“ã«ã¡ã¯ï¼Ÿ < 1368213442 373187 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :First line was reversed, second was not < 1368213444 241012 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1368213448 427551 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-34-131-151.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ã“ã‚“ã«ã¡ã¯ã€‚ã„ã‹ãŒã§ã™ã‹ã€‚ < 1368213458 619391 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: tjat probably works? < 1368213463 277734 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That < 1368213492 327720 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amy typo is the fault < 1368213503 964682 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of SwiftKey < 1368214865 632965 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :🎠< 1368214970 440558 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i need something to write in haskell < 1368214990 852609 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: implement something with T.30 and T.37. bonus points for T.38. < 1368215017 747104 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those < 1368215029 619964 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITU fax protocols. < 1368215187 173914 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1368215301 744109 :ogrom!~del@gprs-inet-65-70.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: Left < 1368216057 797673 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hah, is there a haskell library for that? < 1368216098 987525 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VorpalPhone: not to my knowledge. < 1368216110 317707 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1368216126 824342 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. hoogle returns nothig for t30, nor fax. < 1368216146 300680 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it'd be very interesting to have something for that in haskell. < 1368216147 470778 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone still use fax? < 1368216162 239615 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a question I've been asking myself daily for the past two weeks. < 1368216179 654267 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't remember when I last saw a fax machine... < 1368216195 948975 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the past 2 weeks? < 1368216219 962802 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why daily? < 1368216265 357459 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily:? < 1368216271 714867 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :current work project. < 1368216277 873052 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1368216301 848815 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to deal with fax? Why?! < 1368216302 363500 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to have a fax. which is very stupid, considering the context in which the stuff is going to be launched. < 1368216309 779077 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because clients asked for it! < 1368216353 883715 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, please tell as much as you can about this, it sounds entertaining... < 1368216373 695664 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you know you can make calls and stuff when you're on a plane, right? < 1368216385 658963 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really no. < 1368216409 673679 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :these phones no one uses in the back of the seats? < 1368216411 847481 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't flown for like 12 years. < 1368216413 840326 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1368216417 274963 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good argument. < 1368216451 588848 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it shouldn't have changed much since. we're trying to make some very old and buggy and flaky technology float. ISDN, T.30, stuff like that. < 1368216451 956996 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well 5, but that was a small Cessna < 1368216470 203804 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1368216470 389067 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never flewn in a cessna. the smalles I went in was a DH-8. < 1368216509 210501 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1368216510 141363 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The plane i flew in 12 years ago was pretty small too, turboprop < 1368216527 695905 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never been in a jet < 1368216560 461518 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually i take the train < 1368216581 681972 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And never been outside Scandinavia < 1368216657 89897 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you say there are faxes on some planes? < 1368216675 397113 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: really still faxes? < 1368216784 337274 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well... < 1368216802 938298 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night. < 1368216807 277887 :VorpalPhone!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1368217138 508768 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell VorpalPhone sorry, was out fetching the test faxes. < 1368217138 694006 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1368218168 526647 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368219589 403852 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-246.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Faxes still exist!? < 1368219602 374901 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1368219655 889074 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do. they're evil. we're sending at 7200 bauds on our test runs. < 1368219673 283186 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/864436de962d5e310ea87f0ccf9fb1c0/tumblr_mmhygqyvz11rckw3lo1_1280.jpg < 1368220071 998501 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should check if I have any Dota 2 keys < 1368220169 746704 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're using an old antiquity at the moment. it tried to feed three pages at the same time. the end result was printed on an 8½ × 14. < 1368222705 466012 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1368222886 50376 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368223303 775874 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-133-246.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368225308 26450 :boily!~boily@207.34.230.30 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1368225759 744689 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@65-183-140-119-dhcp.burlingtontelecom.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1368225832 388968 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368225867 320539 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1368225867 563323 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368225924 564997 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368226594 821161 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.179.134 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1368227447 543495 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368228828 793087 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck recruiters. < 1368228836 33706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1368228840 818006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now? < 1368228854 261616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The promised raise? I haven't seen it. < 1368228865 214326 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to go ask about it < 1368229045 133630 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368229084 297836 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1368229084 496370 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368229186 471124 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1368229194 748235 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, due... < 1368229196 669604 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duide* < 1368229197 897672 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude* < 1368229202 683655 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, NEVER TRUST A RECRUITER < 1368229208 171760 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get every promise they say in writing < 1368229221 687385 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you not ask anyone before you decided to talk to those salesmen? < 1368229272 122232 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They made a show of good faith by having me sign 3 contracts, the latter two contracts with the higher rate and marked with the date that it was supposed to take effect. < 1368229283 608414 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tried to make a show of good faith < 1368229298 346258 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you signed what they save you X_x < 1368229304 595051 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck < 1368229307 652132 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you in 10 years! < 1368229320 148836 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can quit with 5 days notice if I have to. < 1368229415 856334 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the military what you want to do? < 1368229420 987334 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are you located? < 1368229447 330635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: isn't the contract with the new rate enforceable? but it's probably at-will employment so they can just fire you < 1368229731 189991 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at-will < 1368229758 332356 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :contracts with new rate should be enforcable, signed pay schedule I was emailed is not. < 1368229781 781748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(According to contract(s), other agreements aren't... I forget the exact phrasing) < 1368229862 48996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :promised raises in at-will employment are kind of weird < 1368229880 184270 :JesseH!~JesseH@ip72-210-71-131.mc.at.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1368230115 19967 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368230243 619746 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-34-97.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric