< 1368663342 772108 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1368663867 945350 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368663899 190973 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368664573 518719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone port cquote to esolangs, i'm too lazy to do it < 1368664587 85533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cquote? < 1368664659 350019 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp's fancy quote template w/ the big quote marks < 1368664669 304150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now called centred something quote for some reason < 1368664692 640385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, illegal < 1368664702 564850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't port wikipedia templates without permission from all the authors < 1368664711 9463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're trivial < 1368664713 74447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, public domain < 1368664720 83521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw it's Esolang singular!! < 1368664739 700645 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then write me a quote template < 1368664745 571007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1368664754 835972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fuck you < 1368664763 913920 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ask for permission.. are there so many authors? < 1368664772 864664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... wikipedia < 1368664776 444347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there are so many authors < 1368664841 71905 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do many wikipedians program templates? < 1368664851 643057 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been kind of assuming it's a cadre of maybe eight total dorknerds doing all that < 1368664912 477375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that cadre has probably had some turnover over the years < 1368664951 619400 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, just wanted to point out that's sometimes it's not a bad idea just to ask < 1368664985 565040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are actually a ton of people in the page history < 1368664994 759717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we migrated one template over to Esolang because it turned out that the only person who had ever changed it was ais523 < 1368665009 4697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: we only realised this /after/ resigning ourselves to not having it < 1368665035 47976 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all are good at bureaucracy arencha < 1368665263 622667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: bikecracy < 1368665498 260602 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which template was this < 1368665512 87146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i forget < 1368665517 30399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be in ais523's template namespace contribs < 1368666206 167482 :14WAASJZS!weed@ya.lolk.org QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1368666261 1550 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368666262 767155 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1368666534 758398 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1368667471 534736 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't choose Prepaid Card unless you got it from Luke in a promotion at a lug. " < 1368667473 30531 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1368667614 625145 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's not very wat < 1368667665 382098 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found mediawikis api to be so huge, i'm sure diggin through it you will even find a way to connect it your fridges interface < 1368667708 626763 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/1ee0eg/zpanel_support_team_calls_forum_user_fucken/ lol ol ol < 1368667747 104265 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1368668560 859229 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368670412 935937 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1368670819 644397 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.22.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1368671060 622129 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :igh < 1368671095 7142 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good coders trying to write reliable code should try to stick with well-documented, stable APIs, that behave sanely. Evil coders get to use whatever they can find < 1368671109 204834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about chaotic neutral coders < 1368671139 27754 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A decent webapp has no legitimate reason to use VBScript. But if there's something lurking there that an attacker can use, they can use it, at least when victims are using IE < 1368671145 154425 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1368671150 679919 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still conflicted on use of "sanely" < 1368671199 528345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what is even the topic < 1368671214 969558 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo. < 1368671311 868649 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If some browser supports a weird Javascript API foobarbaz() but other browsers don't, and foobarbaz isn't well documented, I shouldn't rely on it, but it still risks my user's data and who knows what else if it can interact with my code in ways I may not know about < 1368671330 89499 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because attackers are free to use foobarbaz < 1368671356 492075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @quit forever < 1368671356 690612 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: forever < 1368672350 998892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: how did you get that messge if you already got it < 1368672354 508917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: oh kappabot < 1368672357 103218 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1368672360 410386 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1368672360 790334 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1368672361 541600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy; lucky for you KAPPABOT IS DEAD < 1368672366 645930 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1368672560 208109 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think death could possibly be a bot? < 1368672881 166646 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://raw.github.com/cbcercas/zpanel-freebsd/master/config_packs/freebsd/bin/zsudo.c < 1368672885 115139 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is... is this a joke? < 1368672907 54893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't do what I think it does, does it? Let random users put arbitrary strings into commands to be executed? < 1368672935 463550 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is so much wrong there. < 1368672972 479770 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad that I only see what I mentioned and the buffer overflow that I wouldn't know how to exploit? < 1368672995 326865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1368673029 565564 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does anyone notable use zpanel; if so why < 1368673088 244202 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks to me like you could manage a return-to-libc attack on it. < 1368673098 928483 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what a return-to-libc attack is < 1368673103 552136 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is this even for < 1368673110 943632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should learn because it's cool < 1368673112 290012 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wikipedia has an article < 1368673117 223916 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is really cool. < 1368673124 427369 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also has a cool name < 1368673124 899173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and return oriented programming is cooler < 1368673127 451503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a generalization) < 1368673140 92491 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd need some fiddling to *do* it, but that's where I'd start. < 1368673141 226280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's a fun exercise to figure these things out! < 1368673144 282215 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'return to libc' is way better a name than 'buffer overflow' or whatever, i think < 1368673145 602812 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause it's totally doable. < 1368673154 427363 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously, what is this zsudo even for. < 1368673161 985637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "buffer overflow" is a different thing. < 1368673169 353563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1368673172 816928 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just talking about the names. < 1368673196 352641 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does seem easier to just close the ' in the argument... < 1368673208 616467 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's boring though < 1368673217 411851 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably is easier to exploit that way, yes. < 1368673221 261370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out that every binary gives rise to an esolang, whose primitive operations are any instruction sequences in the binary ending in a RET < 1368673233 44220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on x86 it doesn't even need to be an intentional RET, just a C3 byte anywhere < 1368673250 573607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other indirect jumps. < 1368673254 215051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for any nontrivial binary this esolang is complete for writing shellcode < 1368673254 748075 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :String interpolation in the arguments to system() is really sneaky. < 1368673255 131224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1368673277 430068 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1368673278 323957 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy. < 1368673283 265216 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1368673284 419754 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad. < 1368673286 788820 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad bad bad. < 1368673291 161330 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even I was capable of seeing it. < 1368673292 28241 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words Josiah. < 1368673298 684973 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It's just a *bad idea*. < 1368673306 92924 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause it's so trivial to exploit. < 1368673309 237515 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is it forrrrr < 1368673319 280605 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I was primed with the knowledge that the code was bad) < 1368673328 970047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I wouldn't have seen it if I thought it was good code < 1368673386 179680 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It *basically* runs whatever command is passed to it as the user it's setuid to. < 1368673401 537773 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a particularly strange way. < 1368673408 848741 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there utilities do that already < 1368673418 927738 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but this one doesn't require a password. < 1368673426 922105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cool" < 1368673443 935318 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are they even writing C. I'm pretty sure php scripts can be setuid. < 1368673454 512085 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This thing is several levels of root exploit all in one. < 1368673465 492480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: that suggestion makes me throw up a bit in my mouth < 1368673492 821934 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: dude, no more buffer overflows < 1368673537 384237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does setuid(geteuid()) do again? < 1368673692 716633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i run a setuid root program, i get uid = 1000, euid = 0 < 1368673716 6185 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And setuid(0) then makes uid = 0. < 1368673720 886973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1368673728 520922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is important to exec'd processes, or something? < 1368673741 50748 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think so, yeah. < 1368673776 917629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that the git repo also contains a binary for zsudo < 1368673806 258498 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's another exploit < 1368673820 922983 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe zpanel is actually a honeypot < 1368673932 160274 :tswett_!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368674030 499988 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pktonyfiyreynxmj QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368674031 18377 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368674031 266956 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368674733 140993 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1368674787 288725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: `olist update on Friday, remember? < 1368674802 895440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are "responsible"""". < 1368675392 430680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there are exciting new ways of addressing kmc. < 1368675393 402110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiuaf < 1368675405 962567 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi is usually a function? < 1368675433 5426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :holomorphism is usually a function hth < 1368675560 435050 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Is that where 'miuaf' comes from < 1368675562 783265 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dagnabit < 1368675570 532437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...where did I get the word dagnabit from < 1368675603 611257 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :49ers < 1368675705 556307 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have gotten the word from Fitznik < 1368675711 642993 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, have some Fitznik 2 musoc < 1368675713 485298 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sisc < 1368675714 679719 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :music < 1368675720 900501 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfi71sO2hS0 < 1368675813 838558 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on that person only uploads one Fitznik 2 song? < 1368675831 583070 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP_rNaJ1vOw < 1368675850 716617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask mnoqy chocolate chip chip chip < 1368675858 947789 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1368675861 639130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask mnoqy chocolate chip chip chip < 1368675861 903852 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1368676453 706920 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1368676600 339480 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.raspberrypi.com/ < 1368676602 44193 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1368676614 883752 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen people need to buy codec licenses on their own before < 1368676630 160350 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That ... kind of puts the debate about non-free codecs in perspective < 1368676695 288488 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's always been the case, the cost is just usually either invisible or ignored. < 1368676721 709947 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invisible in the case of, say, Windows, or DVD players, or such, where the license is part of the cost. < 1368676732 340204 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ignored in the case of ffmpeg, you dirty patent violator you. < 1368676753 43709 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368676756 748158 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring costs for dummies < 1368676774 894900 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does Firefox 22+ do on non-Windows? < 1368676783 318162 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..rely on the OS I guess < 1368676826 904495 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1368676830 373324 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... suddenly I feel like I really should continue to press for WebM versions of videos... and the Javascript necessary to support it < 1368676866 698357 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw third-party vendors who don't know how to use their own product < 1368676887 411237 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox 22+ does the same on Windows. :P < 1368676911 655117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i just say: fuck tha police < 1368676931 598423 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blasphemer < 1368676938 663001 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I'm sure there are Linux users who refuse to use ffmpeg < 1368676941 805820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And similar things < 1368676945 56509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1368676949 58971 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend who refuses on principle to use Flash < 1368676951 47322 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ffmpeg can be built without nonfree codecs. < 1368676953 437977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: only in soviet russia hth < 1368676954 277548 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're not talking about the police < 1368676956 409971 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1368676960 703962 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, hm? < 1368676969 622987 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't generally *used* this way, but it's just a build option. < 1368677046 126235 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'll have MPEG-1 and Theora and VP8. Oooh, aaaah. < 1368677069 126310 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the commom MPEG version is MPEG-4? < 1368677072 506383 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something? < 1368677080 53466 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Based on filenames ending with .mp4) < 1368677087 666934 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the common *recent* MPEG version is in the MPEG-4 spec. < 1368677095 286951 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll fall out of patent in like 10 years. < 1368677130 792070 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPEG-2 should be out of patent pretty soon if it's not already. < 1368677156 761172 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll be a bit of a bigger deal, because MPEG-2 is still actually used a lot. < 1368677196 851492 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(most digital TV systems are based on MPEG-2) < 1368677203 879349 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like it could even get used more?= < 1368677265 750681 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what the extension is for MPEG-3 < 1368677273 546795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are my palms spotted red and white and very itchy? < 1368677294 972598 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No such codec. < 1368677314 782497 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mp3? < 1368677316 814829 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: stigmata? < 1368677323 714851 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPEG-3 was designed for a bit but it was discovered that MPEG-2 actually worked for HD video. < 1368677331 313694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unterberg: That's MPEG-I layer 3 audio. < 1368677334 604982 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did they avoid naming a codec that because of other file format extension? Oh < 1368677339 107059 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1368677341 989043 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1368677350 77598 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MP3 is patent-free by now. < 1368677353 302385 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barely, but still. < 1368677359 970515 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barely? < 1368677382 683441 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :After 20 years, you can generally expect a compression algorithm to be totally useless < 1368677383 834834 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, shit, no it's not, because the patent system was wonky then. < 1368677388 473160 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't gif out of patent? < 1368677391 701693 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolgif < 1368677394 726984 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sept. 2015. < 1368677397 98575 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. < 1368677414 325426 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> As a result, patents required to implement MP3 expired in most countries by December 2012, 21 years after the publication of ISO CD 11172. < 1368677415 316315 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:12: parse error on input `,' < 1368677418 365929 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1368677423 949920 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: US. :) < 1368677438 915981 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People don't seem to be switching back to .gif from .png < 1368677446 371770 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, submarine patents, that sucks. < 1368677460 119566 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When MPEG-4 comes out of patent, will people switch from WebM to MPEG-4 exclusively? < 1368677462 704986 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what you have to understand is, lolgif < 1368677491 587777 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gifs.gifbin.com/1234778541_lol.jpg < 1368677496 611330 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how video codec implementations are distributed based on the rationalization that although they infringe patents in the country where they're written and distributed, they might conceivably not infringe in some other country < 1368677556 234906 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :patent law is fucked, pretty much any rationalization is fine with me < 1368677562 19826 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: And the rationale that source code isn't an infringing product, it's just part of an infringing product. < 1368677565 322393 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1368677566 889525 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Thx. < 1368677571 890908 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, patent law is fucked. < 1368677579 968903 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the usual one was that only use of the code would be infringing < 1368677590 412187 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Content-Type:image/jpeg < 1368677593 338584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1368677595 979078 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the code itself is just text. < 1368677598 455145 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, really? < 1368677611 447044 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading old arguments for copyright law is great < 1368677619 583018 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't apply to the DMCA of course. < 1368677629 993323 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As that makes *text describing how to circumvent* illegal. < 1368677633 120569 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... does the browser just ignore Content-Type of images? < 1368677648 392844 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why the hell is a GIFBIN sending image/jpeg in any circumstance < 1368677656 278636 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't apply outside murika, of course. < 1368677671 861634 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or countries which have been politically pressured to emulate the DMCA locally. < 1368677679 975380 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I upload a .html that manages to look like both a GIF and HTML, and give it a file extension ending with .html, will it be served as text/html? < 1368677686 601182 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The web is also fucked. < 1368677689 168314 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is fucked. < 1368677693 608173 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Probably, but good luck pulling that off. < 1368677707 283305 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if I have to make it look like both < 1368677714 772218 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's been done with html/jar < 1368677744 267019 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: That's nontrivial but probably actually doable. < 1368677760 686424 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly if the JAR detection is naive and you don't care about it being *valid* JAR. < 1368677777 999773 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myprettyjsonpapi?callback=&x=.html < 1368677790 599669 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think IE9 at least knows that that's not really HTML... < 1368677791 802741 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shove 0x06054b50 in an HTML comment towards the end of the file. < 1368677818 19339 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With some more *work* it'd be doable to make it actually valid JAR. < 1368677860 127961 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAPI < 1368677862 537826 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're careful you can have arbitrary data shoved in a ZIP file. < 1368677897 928864 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an implementation is *required* to ignore anything not pointed to by the footer. < 1368677909 361060 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is itself somewhere within the last 64k of the file. < 1368677914 417981 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, "somewhere". < 1368677983 969198 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368677991 951754 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZIP is freaking designed to have shit hidden in it. < 1368678054 669917 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw man, the place I read Macaulay''s 19th century copyright speeches fell docwn. < 1368678216 643737 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.baen.com/library/palaver4.htm good old IE error < 1368678242 22359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't WebM compression better than MPEG-4? < 1368678282 412987 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse than MPEG-4 Part 10 (i.e. H.264), better than MPEG-4 Part 2. < 1368678294 917303 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MPEG-4 containes two *different* video codecs. < 1368678302 880337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1368678313 198138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was thinking of part 2 < 1368678357 147259 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebM is nowhere near as good of a format as the marketing would tell you (seriously, they said it was *better than H.264?*), but it's not bad. < 1368678383 164699 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "somewhat worse than H.264 baseline" rather than "... ffmpeg MPEG-2 beats it. Jesus." < 1368678408 249920 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the complexity class of h.264 < 1368678416 977863 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BQP < 1368678422 590489 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this probably isn't too fair, ffmpeg MPEG-2 is *really* good.) < 1368678454 326838 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably figure out how video works some time. have some non-surface idea of why I can't watch video on my computer < 1368678469 146941 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's a clusterfuck. < 1368678481 12045 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, that much is obvious from the preceding conversation if nothing else < 1368678498 210077 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, digital video includes every single bad decision of broadcasting engineers over the course of 50 years. < 1368678500 721579 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything in computer technology that isn't a clusterfuck < 1368678511 339040 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If different files are encoded in different bitrates, is there a reason for a video player to try to choose one? < 1368678513 340349 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything that isn't a clusterfuck. Is there anything. Is < 1368678513 674919 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digital video is so to a unique degree. < 1368678520 788595 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand bitrates < 1368678534 137637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious about the historical aspect, pikhq. < 1368678544 783574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now that you mention it, i mean) < 1368678545 473393 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's nothing more than the number of bits per second. < 1368678556 775219 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Which is loosely correlated with quality, but only loosely. < 1368678564 494030 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Are you familiar with interlacing? < 1368678580 772694 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like how old TVs only displayed alternate lines? < 1368678591 633795 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is *part of video standards*. < 1368678599 956848 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fantastic. < 1368678602 944342 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1368678618 666978 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because some people decided to interlace digital videos < 1368678619 552998 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I watch this? http://www.xiph.org/video/vid1.shtml < 1368678625 862794 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because video codecs were designed so that they could basically store regular OTA signals without modification. < 1368678628 834226 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. < 1368678637 420262 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Which means that they had to encode interlaced signals. < 1368678643 756312 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1368678644 946040 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the *broadcast itself is interlaced*. < 1368678650 887857 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the alternate lines even exist. < 1368678663 584489 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a half-hour firehose of information" i don't think i'm up for this < 1368678668 932267 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's still more crazy shit. < 1368678678 44067 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, pixels in SD video are *not square*. < 1368678679 880590 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep going, keep going, you've got me hooked < 1368678686 213031 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... does that mean < 1368678690 927349 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're rectangles. < 1368678697 662559 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taller than they are wide. < 1368678706 671406 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google pixels are not squares < 1368678707 136105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd... expect the opposite? < 1368678708 476441 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because this is how it happened to work on analog signals. < 1368678709 215852 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ftp.alvyray.com/Memos/CG/Microsoft/6_pixel.pdf < 1368678709 414254 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: A Pixel Is Not A Little Square, A Pixel Is Not A Little Square, A Pixel Is Not A ... < 1368678721 988762 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On computers, they're square. < 1368678740 395909 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give eme little squares or give me death < 1368678748 535021 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The upshot of which is that to display SD signals you need to scale the signal *no matter the resolution of your screen*. < 1368678753 566562 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This on top of your deinterlacing. < 1368678763 525184 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds computationally expensive < 1368678798 146473 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also fun: most digital SD signals actually have the vertical blanking area encoded. < 1368678810 228833 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's right. It's got black bits on the side. < 1368678823 9094 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in... the signal? < 1368678830 128155 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the actual MPEG video. < 1368678839 351672 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like there's a bit in the file saying "this far to the left is black"? < 1368678844 91796 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you put white bits there instead? < 1368678844 713960 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1368678857 675738 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *video contains black there*. < 1368678866 379371 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhh. < 1368678872 366628 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why the video is 720x480 instead of 704x480. < 1368678879 918381 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 704 of the pixels have video. < 1368678883 853031 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other 16 are black. < 1368678907 695541 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there was nontrivial video content there, would it just be an easter egg for someone to find, or would it break something? < 1368678921 276687 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Doesn't break shit. < 1368678932 383441 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it makes broadcast engineers cry. < 1368678958 333202 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an area where the electron beam in an analog TV is off. < 1368678961 975197 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it gets ... compressed away though, right? < 1368678969 832018 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat. < 1368678991 909791 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still takes space, but MPEG-style codecs are pretty good at dealing with regions that don't actually *move*. < 1368679037 129211 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You'll also "love" that US TV is at 60000/1001 frames per second. < 1368679042 450866 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 60, 6000/1001. < 1368679047 927663 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, 60000/1001. < 1368679049 546785 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blinks < 1368679077 967512 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was done when color was introduced, so that the color signal wouldn't interfere with the audio. < 1368679090 633415 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before then it was 60. < 1368679101 264212 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... it's still present in digital formats, or... < 1368679104 516985 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1368679124 570701 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This also means that one doesn't generally find 24 fps content, one finds 24000/1001 fps content. < 1368679144 790679 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often stuck *in* a 60000/1001 stream via telecine. < 1368679184 160295 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is where each frame is shown in a pattern of 2, 3, 2, 3, ... frames) < 1368679184 358628 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:2 "nobody will notice it" < 1368679223 753750 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :European video does something slightly wonkier. They just speed up the video slightly so it's at 25 fps. < 1368679237 852360 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's 50 fps there. < 1368679245 342260 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because they use 50 Hz power) < 1368679277 999669 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, those could have been reasonable decisions at the time. < 1368679287 722234 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe that is the point. < 1368679305 744637 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, this was done so they wouldn't need a timing circuit. < 1368679313 395510 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And instead just use the power as a clock. < 1368679322 509823 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that helped in Japan... < 1368679331 831998 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even clocks use the power grid as clocks < 1368679336 956390 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bit funny < 1368679349 548252 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor, poor Japan. < 1368679379 386571 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their TV is 60 fps. Their power is 50 or 60 Hz depending on which half of the country you're in. < 1368679501 70558 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higashi-Shimizu_Frequency_Converter < 1368679533 112593 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's all 100V. < 1368679538 608980 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why 100?) < 1368679663 682933 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not 100 < 1368679677 396949 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 cubits of electricity is a biblical law, pikhq < 1368679687 229806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a cubit like a qubit < 1368679808 664227 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes NICK :Gracenotes < 1368679984 299679 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: They're the only country using 100V. < 1368680027 217120 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes exports more difficult, I guess < 1368680064 863429 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except nowadays electronics tend to have 100-250V 50/60Hz power supplies. < 1368680082 662601 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Japan uses the US sockets. < 1368680106 453075 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like every country using 120V 60Hz power...) < 1368680173 221979 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :100V is probably insignificantly safer < 1368680194 980737 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368680213 652876 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also generally don't have grounded sockets. < 1368680252 829118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yolo < 1368680267 342807 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :yodo < 1368680305 432906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to lectures by famous people is kind of annoying because people come to ask completely irrelevant questions. < 1368680350 362959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Feynman had a solution to that. < 1368680379 968351 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@184-97-190-154.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1368680395 469993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he punch them? < 1368680476 173934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he just went under a different name. < 1368680525 972725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway yesterday someone asked "Is mathematics a human invention or a discovery blah blah blah" < 1368680556 144989 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at that, you think of yourself as a great philosopher. Ain't that adorable. < 1368680561 670916 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicians, the foremost opinions on philosophy of maths < 1368680567 653832 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't supposed to be "opinions" < 1368680606 38399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are bicycles discovered or invented < 1368680641 755211 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grown. < 1368680685 977271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like puns? < 1368680693 802540 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1368680741 271256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a button people press to indicate that they understood your pun. < 1368680744 372134 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.185-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1368680752 377804 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the bike button" < 1368680904 299491 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wfxttmblcmoaizmo JOIN :#esoteric < 1368681112 904237 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368681117 527903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the joke is that you "groan" at puns, as in "grown", hth < 1368681202 944367 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1368681222 703093 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does oerjan need to be informed of this < 1368681237 885605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan needs to be informe of everything < 1368681241 105151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think he logreads < 1368681408 373828 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.185-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368681805 928196 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT 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timeout: 264 seconds < 1368690238 316067 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-142-38.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368690768 550389 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368690921 918321 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368692468 234212 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-142-38.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368692532 286551 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1368693107 320599 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1368693989 230223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368695518 376964 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1368696002 249353 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wfxttmblcmoaizmo QUIT :Changing host < 1368696002 446329 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1368696002 446440 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host < 1368696002 446484 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wfxttmblcmoaizmo JOIN :#esoteric < 1368696061 89350 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368696075 976357 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368697476 837757 :Dragooon_Mac!~Dragooon@122.177.208.36 QUIT :Quit: Dragooon_Mac < 1368697531 43381 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-48-1.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1368700020 41551 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368700517 487128 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368700552 741086 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-31-103.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1368700552 977429 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368700726 925524 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368700967 961222 :Taneb!~nathan@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368702604 813204 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.22.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368702770 541850 :Taneb!~nathan@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1368702770 776034 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1368702819 521046 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :haneb < 1368703208 531640 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368704453 947678 :Taneb!~nathan@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368704753 587658 :unterberg!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1368705197 239555 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1368706776 901152 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1368706913 4046 :Taneb!~nathan@mail.qehs.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368707215 516914 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368708103 285205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368708108 213160 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368708264 734517 :Taneb!~nathan@mail.qehs.net NICK :TanebNgevdatriq < 1368708333 428636 :TanebNgevdatriq!~nathan@mail.qehs.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got fed up of choosing between nicks < 1368708554 245188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as I can autocomplete on 'ta ', everything's fine. < 1368708796 416433 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (zipWith (-) `on` ord) "taneb" "atriq" < 1368708797 331630 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[c0]' < 1368708797 528236 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `GHC.Type... < 1368708800 67086 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (zipWith (-) `on` map ord) "taneb" "atriq" < 1368708800 951377 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : [19,-19,-4,-4,-15] < 1368708822 769579 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (zipWith (+) `on` map ord) "taneb" "atriq" < 1368708823 689390 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : [213,213,224,206,211] < 1368708909 703730 :tswett_!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1368709563 482409 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368710029 895219 :TanebNgevdatriq!~nathan@mail.qehs.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368710606 941187 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 ngevd < 1368710607 138067 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq < 1368713167 406816 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1368714249 395634 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.185-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1368714658 423409 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368714750 380832 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368716025 908369 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 taneb < 1368716026 123600 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnaro < 1368716039 912934 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnarhello < 1368716453 686942 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-142-38.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368716468 135904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 FireFly < 1368716468 336766 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SverSyl < 1368716488 19123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SverSyllo. < 1368716504 539104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 fungot < 1368716504 739479 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shatbg < 1368716521 843671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, only one reply from fungot? < 1368716522 132816 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: meeting with transalta and other me priorities. identify any necessary true that aec for such a site < 1368720895 254880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, fuck, I just realised I really want to read Prequel again. < 1368720897 274263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1368722073 984269 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1368722277 157936 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368722277 423989 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1368722277 424136 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1368722515 19783 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 rothirteen < 1368722515 247206 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebguvegrra < 1368724276 403742 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 / 0 < 1368724277 620311 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Infinity < 1368724408 413449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((1/) . (1/)) 0 < 1368724409 498855 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1368724447 374723 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((1/).(1/)) -0.0 < 1368724448 564654 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Real.Fractional (c0 -> c0)) < 1368724448 817609 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `... < 1368724468 146527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike..................... < 1368724793 192870 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368726193 322148 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368726417 65759 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why does oerjan need to be informed of this <-- this also eludes me, maybe the rest of the logs will clarify. < 1368726428 252994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they won't hth < 1368726465 849109 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. in that case, did i say anything, at any time, that provoked your information? dwh < 1368726468 534393 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1368726473 812119 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*twh < 1368726481 999934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh? < 1368726484 136500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh? < 1368726488 196757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was helpful? < 1368726489 395164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh. < 1368726490 180356 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this would help"? < 1368726494 836559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was hambiguity. < 1368726506 741567 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Bike is the winner! or close enough, anyway. < 1368726513 426908 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could go for some hambiguity atm < 1368726527 375060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle blah < 1368726527 686061 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could not find some databases: default < 1368726527 896674 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searching in: < 1368726528 94390 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1368726534 110105 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1368726543 19613 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle hoogle < 1368726543 298065 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could not find some databases: default < 1368726543 512038 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searching in: < 1368726543 710120 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1368726550 616373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :patience hth < 1368726555 568182 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: what did you do to poor lambdabot < 1368726574 397069 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot murdered lambdabot < 1368726587 325336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle oerjan < 1368726588 126951 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he (she?) pretends to be lambdabot < 1368726588 549579 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could not find some databases: default < 1368726588 810132 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searching in: < 1368726589 7766 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1368726597 577016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bo o ring < 1368726602 773826 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle map < 1368726603 95678 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could not find some databases: default < 1368726603 348419 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searching in: < 1368726603 546165 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : . < 1368726609 896345 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1368726612 645624 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck map < 1368726612 843485 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense a lack of databases. < 1368726613 148405 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A representation, usually on a plane surface, of a region of the earth or heavens. < 1368726613 556508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATIENCE < 1368726619 930507 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1368726625 624887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATIENCE yes < 1368726628 966381 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hoogle < 1368726629 230182 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: add commands to use Hoogle within vim (VimL). < 1368726669 86350 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah it's your bot that explains the impatient PATIENCE < 1368726680 649736 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+, < 1368726732 788028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle map < 1368726733 121029 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude map :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1368726733 351211 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List map :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1368726733 548447 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude mapM :: Monad m => (a -> m b) -> [a] -> m [b] < 1368726784 540127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle data < 1368726784 876220 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Data class Typeable a => Data a < 1368726785 122344 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Data module Data.Data < 1368726785 319765 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Data dataCast1 :: (Data a, Typeable1 t) => (forall d. Data d => c (t d)) -> Maybe (c a) < 1368726848 998400 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there are actually a ton of people in the page history <-- but how many of those are vandals that were reverted? you could _probably_ consider those not to share in the copyright, right? < 1368726863 981118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (^!) < 1368726864 327134 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1368726866 323777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1368726868 17009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, uh, one of the standard templates < 1368726878 322386 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been locked since forever < 1368726887 707962 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...okay. < 1368726910 812609 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you went on a daring ocean's eleven style heist to just /steal/ the template < 1368726948 225531 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that would not help the esolang wiki hth < 1368726969 74003 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if instead of not helping... it did helping? < 1368726980 685012 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: stealing doesn't quite work like that on information < 1368727052 8481 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried < 1368727199 935459 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log t[o] unterberg < 1368727230 850039 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1368727262 407282 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1368727274 635457 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log i[s] now known as unterberg < 1368727280 538985 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-05-15.txt:18:34:20: -!- madb4rd2 is now known as unterberg. < 1368727313 576377 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is now known to unterberg. < 1368727324 275509 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA YOU HAVE BEEN REVEALED* < 1368727392 543476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can i been revealed..... < 1368727397 646418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle ^?! < 1368727397 932060 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Lens.Fold (^?!) :: s -> Getting (Endo a) s a -> a < 1368727398 243005 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Lens.Operators (^?!) :: s -> Getting (Endo a) s a -> a < 1368727408 712334 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try! < 1368727415 4314 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log i[s] now known as shachaf < 1368727420 864361 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-10-22.txt:09:10:19: -!- SHACHAF is now known as shachaf. < 1368727440 986237 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that seems somehow unsatisfactory. < 1368727475 275964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the [s]? < 1368727487 544580 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to make sure the line doesn't match itself. < 1368727509 160976 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log is that actually necessary < 1368727514 486714 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-05-16.txt:18:05:09: `log is that actually necessary < 1368727518 854435 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1368727522 161034 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :point. < 1368727556 889565 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log yes Bike < 1368727560 830729 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there is also `pastlog which restricts to not matching today < 1368727562 562100 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-03-14.txt:00:02:31: yes Bike, there exist multiple RSS readers < 1368727593 947839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log yes shachaf < 1368727598 746458 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-01-19.txt:15:03:37: http://hypirion.com/swearjure (yes shachaf, this is Clojure related) < 1368727604 930409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log ye[s] oerjan < 1368727606 270884 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1368727608 102728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log no shachaf < 1368727610 127161 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-12-31.txt:21:50:20: yes oerjan < 1368727613 375879 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-01-14.txt:07:31:52: no shachaf, no < 1368727628 807785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whoopse" < 1368727644 374806 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log mayb[e] boily < 1368727649 747893 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-02-07.txt:20:55:36: maybe boily had some cleverer exploit in mind I didn't though < 1368727674 769459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log perhap[s] Bike < 1368727679 944541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-05-05.txt:23:26:11: perhaps Bike is what you should be terrified of < 1368727687 336615 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed < 1368727730 715770 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log nooo[^d] < 1368727736 476030 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-02-23.txt:18:53:06: Noooo < 1368727756 136608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dl. < 1368727758 161606 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log nooo+[^d] < 1368727762 945717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log perhap[s] bonghits < 1368727763 278458 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :download? < 1368727763 491885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-04-14.txt:15:08:24: nooooooooooooooooo < 1368727767 992540 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-08-27.txt:23:26:47: perhaps bonghits will fix your monad transformer stack < 1368728618 978602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made a SQL database of the headers of all of the Infocom games (including the unreleased ones). < 1368728652 592434 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An SQL database sounds surprisingly... normal for zzo38 < 1368728667 275770 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely it's not anything mainstream like sqlite/postgresql/mysql? < 1368728678 115703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is SQLite. < 1368728728 485765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that kind of non-obscure attitude is poorly viewed in this channel. stop being logical and normal. < 1368728861 999847 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why are my palms spotted red and white and very itchy? <-- that reminds me of a similar experience, 14 years ago. did this (1) start with thinking extremely negative thoughts and (2) continue with vomiting ? < 1368728885 754064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It includes the unreleased files; there seems to be one Zork I file in version 6. There is also something called "Milliways" which is also version 6; this is not mentioned in the Z-Machine Standards Document. < 1368728891 739330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no and no, hth < 1368728898 127724 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good. < 1368728925 404291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i mean tth < 1368728947 351035 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1368728955 548064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?????????????? < 1368728963 120157 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tth logic, with transistors and hambiguities? < 1368728967 728917 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the acronyms are breeding! < 1368728977 948673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sounds like an exciting experience < 1368729011 565994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gomsx.net/hansotten/msxdocs/machinecodeforbeginners.pdf fuck yes I had this book growing up < 1368729029 361907 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it made me realize that sometimes it is important not to think about stuff too much hth < 1368729036 53855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you grew up before books were invented < 1368729057 38449 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sounds like that animal poison that supposedly causes a feeling of impending doom < 1368729077 602182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is it worth it waiting N minutes for the 15MB file to load? < 1368729083 773269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought so < 1368729086 200449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nostalgia < 1368729149 191347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how do I get chromium to show pdfs in a little embedded evince thing < 1368729151 611904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be possible right < 1368729157 174604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that picture looks promising. < 1368729165 455245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just use libpdf.so hth < 1368729177 155177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dion't know < 1368729188 361383 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think i had better triggers for feelings of impending doom than that at the time hth < 1368729204 435817 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel has an hth problem < 1368729218 818631 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just say no to hth hth < 1368729241 953594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well i sure hope that fancy mozilla browser does pdfs nicely!! < 1368729269 357869 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, am mozilla firefox of afghanistan < 1368729277 77173 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we're still under 0.2 hpp. < 1368729295 910847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hambigs Per PRIVMSG) < 1368729297 173895 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what that means. are you hitting on me < 1368729309 184307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hths per [?] < 1368729339 225493 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: milliways is the name of the restaurant at the end of the universe in douglas adams' book of the latter name fwiw < 1368729344 329107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hitting on you is the purpose of this channel hth < 1368729358 380586 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hott < 1368729361 979875 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we can still be friends. < 1368729376 388290 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, fwiw and hth seem like synonyms < 1368729388 19842 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because they're both meaningless. < 1368729427 17307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, it's only ~0 pages. < 1368729441 457464 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw they're _not_ meaningless hth < 1368729442 630071 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368729468 921944 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering figuring out how to get irssi to black out "hth" < 1368729469 418266 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368729484 482663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're meaningless hth. ftfy. < 1368729485 172907 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just /ignore lines that end in hth hth < 1368729498 615724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: irssi can do that? < 1368729504 322611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok seriously stop the hth thing or i'm going to go crazy < 1368729521 125085 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ignore patterns, yeah < 1368729521 323029 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth. hth. hth! HTH HTH HTHHHHH N < 1368729521 550761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: /ignore -regexp hth$ hth < 1368729546 245046 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. hth  < 1368729564 129856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:38 -replies: Ignore replies to nick in channels. For example < 1368729564 327113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:38 "/IGNORE -replies *!*@*.fi PUBLIC" ignores everyone < 1368729564 524440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:38 from Finland, but also anyone sending message < 1368729564 524625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:38 "tofinnishnick: blahblah". < 1368729567 169317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi is great < 1368729590 304561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sleazy. < 1368729590 562585 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.64 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1368729602 778524 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you sure it's not too late? < 1368729681 912180 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm disturbed. there's at least one web framework written in any possible language: http://leafo.net/lapis/ < 1368729731 84017 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is surprising about lua < 1368729751 442956 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368729765 272688 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a web framework for fortran? intercal? < 1368729782 773389 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one for cobol, as demonstrated by our illustrious friend earlier < 1368729783 973420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no problems in lua. it's the moonscript part that surprises me. < 1368729797 575597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.intercaloninterstates.org/ hth < 1368729802 526099 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has "script" in it so i'm not surprised < 1368729984 423327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should then rename brainfsck to brainscript, then magically a web framework will appear. < 1368730015 14868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: arrays being indexed from 1 < 1368730021 939670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1368730038 169376 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a practice started by notable mainstream language APL!!! < 1368730071 216049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I forget what J does < 1368730123 346905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL isn't even a programming language hth < 1368730284 912544 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can finally press the Bike button. < 1368730303 617300 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the Bike button? < 1368730314 583762 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The button you press when somebody doesn't understand a pun. < 1368730314 886931 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the Bike button do? < 1368730325 395426 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets pressed. < 1368730328 7488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it olsner < 1368730339 592558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't depress the Bike button < 1368730346 773239 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not doing anything, the question is what the button does < 1368730354 582096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lua is a fine language with a really fast JIT < 1368730357 435356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, fine < 1368730368 195720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess MoonScript is the CoffeeScript of Lua? < 1368730387 572816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear luajit is p. great < 1368730449 869138 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: http://25.media.tumblr.com/9b696b6531098b0ff81bef25af1b3027/tumblr_mlswq3ZGrX1snfhwio1_1280.png < 1368730462 389720 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, that's when you _do_ understand a pun, sheesh < 1368730469 532724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1368730610 247432 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand puns, oerjan. Not now, not ever. < 1368730639 95682 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1368730654 786577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You didn't use to understand them, but they've grown on you. < 1368730655 570677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1368730655 768740 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts Bike on his nemesis list < 1368730666 867165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Am I on your nemesis list? < 1368730688 38753 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :puns tend to grow like mushrooms. < 1368730695 88856 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can neither confirm nor deny that. < 1368730699 252285 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like pungus. < 1368730734 887148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 pungus < 1368730735 85334 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :chathf < 1368730860 177563 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 fungi < 1368730860 414871 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shatv < 1368731074 443415 :mrtrop!~user1@ip98-167-228-120.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368731105 647329 :mrtrop!~user1@ip98-167-228-120.ph.ph.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1368731754 176295 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368731760 39736 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1368731984 979355 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368732497 709004 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368733628 604857 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368733761 739069 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368733807 346768 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-142-38.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1368733935 79476 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-4db4fa50.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368734053 972462 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d9329b3b.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1368734068 198789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368734223 5163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368735306 3523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1368735508 983600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellogan < 1368735526 284911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers /hilight -regexp chaf\b < 1368735713 402621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1368735716 338954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should do that < 1368735798 572784 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep 'chaf$' /usr/share/dict/words < 1368735800 132318 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /usr/share/dict/words: No such file or directory < 1368735806 431615 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1368735816 224806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's empty anyway. < 1368735821 247233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With my word list, at least. < 1368735829 904626 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, same, just gotta demonstrate < 1368736004 951932 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, tekmo has changed/removed the behavior of StateP in the pipes library that i found so weird... < 1368736038 733984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i choose to read that as "the pipes library that i found so weird" < 1368736303 7940 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU MUST < 1368736321 541006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MUSTOERJAN < 1368736326 848449 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1368736451 245324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puzzle: Which word is used in the phrase "if for no other reason th[ae]n"? < 1368736473 18277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! ŒRJAN < 1368736475 636555 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ŒRJAN! ¯\(°_O)/¯! < 1368736554 876347 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1368736581 456925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: still having identity troubles? < 1368736587 519127 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is it "reason"? < 1368736599 256452 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I don't know who I am any more < 1368736604 795289 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just Phantom_Hoover < 1368736645 172345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the puzzle is than vs. then < 1368736666 171514 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, am I you? < 1368736673 167498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1368736674 177637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1368736681 11858 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it's official < 1368736684 867031 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually Phantom_Hoover < 1368736689 982547 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net NICK :Phantom_____Hoov < 1368736691 524722 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it depends, is that the phrase with then or the one with than? < 1368736695 167140 :Phantom_____Hoov!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net NICK :Phantom___Hoover < 1368736704 797072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The *standard* phrase, olsner. < 1368736704 994802 :Phantom___Hoover!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1368736723 404380 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NickServ doesn't like me admitting our shared identity, Phantom_Hoover < 1368736732 168293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: than if you're making a comparison. then if you're saying “if for no other reason, then that stuff will happen”. < 1368736755 640079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily; Yes, but *which is it*? < 1368736774 783818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if for no other reason then because X" < 1368736786 861100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: than. you're comparing. < 1368736808 933425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1368736811 511682 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then. you're stating a consequent. < 1368736822 271722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what "than" and "then" mean. < 1368736829 119963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then then. < 1368737193 205886 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1368737263 511142 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1368737275 911523 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1368737379 692059 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1368737428 63754 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if for no other reason than because you can say it like this < 1368737441 155020 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368737442 572857 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1368737478 292573 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that's not a whole sentence < 1368737502 101950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1368737504 227663 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368737523 128078 :boily1!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1368737524 378372 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make it a whole sentence, if for no other reason than because otherwise it just confuses shachaf < 1368737541 675649 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1368737557 777469 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*would just confuse < 1368737579 472294 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they removed fulsome and evaporate from 0.12. I am sad. < 1368737599 501830 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evaporate was ... liquidated. < 1368737644 212162 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: remind me to whack you tomorrow morning. < 1368737648 745263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you vile punster. < 1368737650 144360 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1368737653 699512 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368737706 182997 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily whack me in the morning. < 1368737706 438636 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1368737900 406162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :T DEUCE WHACK ME IN THE MORNING < 1368737995 856410 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :petition to make T WHOEVER a synonym for @tell whoever < 1368738041 979342 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368738072 286213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if the entire message is in all caps < 1368738218 447981 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368738438 158939 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368738621 662554 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368738839 553224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1368739317 211551 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-188-158.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1368739431 68584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to get a better rubik's cube if I'm going to fiddle with it all day < 1368739434 605672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else i will get RSI < 1368739505 431615 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubik's scrambling insanity < 1368739638 197086 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1368739688 131952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are there premium rubik's cubes < 1368739735 960293 :oerjan!5bba487a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.186.72.122 QUIT :Quit: scrambling out of here < 1368739747 817011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1368739759 455113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oiled rubik's cubes < 1368739770 145243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :made out of 100% aluminium < 1368739785 69757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think high end speed cubes are still plastic but yes, they are lubricated < 1368739797 294973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually with graphite or sillicone < 1368739801 493830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :petroleum is bad < 1368739839 530084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :high speed cubes with silly cone < 1368739848 293625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW-rd9ZR-TA < 1368739881 977979 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 rubik 2 furious < 1368739901 765643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to college with one of the rubiks cube world record guys < 1368739913 828338 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i can't help but be amused at the 2x2 record < 1368739915 509171 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 3x3 cube really scrambled properly? < 1368739942 863768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it is scrambled according to http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/#article-4-scrambling < 1368739955 284205 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :world cube association < 1368740006 727003 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like there's a lot of dexterity involved < 1368740012 854794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1368740046 415743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you have to memorize a lot of different move sequences < 1368740084 414064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs the simple methods used by dabblers such as myself < 1368740101 873796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which involve a few simple move sequences, that you may need to apply many times < 1368740126 67819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my record time for 3x3x3 is like... 1m30s < 1368740148 143620 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never solved a cube < 1368740149 260110 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-212-159.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine's approx. 2m. (I don't have a good figure because it's been a while) < 1368740546 624367 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368740562 413478 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1368740657 65217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368740883 350452 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.185-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368740953 361675 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone solved 2033 cubes in 2012, and apparently you need to be faster than about 8s to reach top 100 < 1368741113 47697 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1368741126 673346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how are your cube skills? < 1368741126 964898 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: past 2001 outages related that impact accounting for any enron public relations with the different on our " form" llc agreement of the call you asked. < 1368741775 732637 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages < 1368741775 985701 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1368741776 183732 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1368741793 401348 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a job for the esoteric logs! < 1368741823 843037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1368741824 40473 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron* europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1368741827 899422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1368741850 377192 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :thence the word enron in fungot's previous statement < 1368741850 669451 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i may not see teams listed in the attached and let cynthia know any major complications of a schedule the next. market as < 1368742758 542412 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368742970 617626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Today at the store I saw a box labeled "Flake" an below that "the crumbliest, flakiest milk chocolate". < 1368742979 963371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also some Arabic text (?). < 1368742985 804569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunate it had been emptied. < 1368743048 370953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the flakiest milk chocolate is just air < 1368743064 653116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. flaky < 1368743228 611733 :kingof9x!~ethan@pppoe-72-19-44-039.cascadeaccess.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368743314 11845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so itchy :'( < 1368743331 742896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't concentrate on anything through my itchy palms and itchy feet and itchy stomach < 1368743336 254266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i do < 1368743420 498696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itch cream? < 1368743433 255050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that as a deliberate misspelling of ice cream < 1368743450 28322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also started craving a flake when i read what shachaf said, maybe my body is trying to tell me it needs sugar < 1368743466 279500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe you just need to wait patiently < 1368743491 649115 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-224.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1368743523 129332 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-224.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1368743523 326929 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1368743901 51267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have some itch cream, it's p. good < 1368743908 599172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for itches i mean < 1368743909 631007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to eat < 1368743943 825663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was better when i read it as "ice cream" < 1368743966 740354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's all over my body everywhere < 1368743967 871801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really want ice cream now < 1368743972 554315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe i should eat it < 1368743994 679429 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay now my mouth is full of useless saliva TAHNK YOU < 1368744507 545529 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :saliva has all sorts of uses! < 1368744582 241469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm finding out that you can't mess around with saliva < 1368744618 7252 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mess around with"? < 1368744629 237745 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1368744875 2011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc meant to say salvia but typo'd the joke is kmc drugs < 1368744894 3815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc meant to say sativa but typo'd the joke is kmc drugs < 1368744909 493687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of that < 1368744938 691856 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp. < 1368744950 194905 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone say kmc drugs i love that joke < 1368744981 103895 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs more like keegan laugh devices < 1368744990 161642 :kingof9x!~ethan@pppoe-72-19-44-039.cascadeaccess.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1368745033 691772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: really what a coïncidence we make that joke in #esoteric a lot < 1368745038 943134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should join < 1368745066 546300 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-drugs < 1368745606 970176 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so utterly furious earlier today < 1368745611 20285 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm calm now though. < 1368745644 431622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: need help getting to that emotional peak again? < 1368745699 286776 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: for now < 1368746125 39164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what were you furious about? < 1368746168 397032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn furiosity < 1368746169 211184 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "furiosity". < 1368746182 89193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :measured in furions < 1368746599 401266 :kingof9x!~ethan@pppoe-72-19-44-039.cascadeaccess.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1368746794 873571 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome kingof9x < 1368746797 345908 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingof9x: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1368747057 932674 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWO DAYS < 1368747157 645737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1368747215 928962 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :three days < 1368747378 925377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjecYugTbIQ < 1368747433 311168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doctor Who season finale < 1368747577 734787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott remember that thing about formal power series and types < 1368747590 65353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: uh what about it < 1368747601 3764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, is there any reason for me to get a Raspberry Pi < 1368747647 407499 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :power series and types? < 1368747648 591036 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have an external monitor I can use :( < 1368747687 902128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, `where was it' < 1368747692 435512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: which one < 1368747696 717433 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Informal power series < 1368747700 129892 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i read < 1368747705 52567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1368747818 163873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well is there a project you want to do < 1368747825 911187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you think that having it will inspire you to do a project < 1368747827 184962 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, not really < 1368747835 75907 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least not really to the former) < 1368747845 581927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to get one to run some LED strips < 1368747872 3630 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ... the latter seems more likely if, say, I had a server on prgmr or something < 1368747880 364654 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Than if I had a little computer I could carry with me < 1368747914 571175 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of plenty of times in my past where I wished I had a server < 1368747945 448630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I eventually got one, for that reason < 1368747978 639175 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have money now that I could use to ... buy one < 1368748229 128667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is calling people eichmann the new calling people hitler < 1368748262 760234 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it pretty old? i mean there's that book "little eichmanns" < 1368748299 372047 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apparently I don't know history. I thought you were referring to the guy who annoyed people and was involved with libc... but I think his name begins with U < 1368748313 506709 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drepper? < 1368748322 831843 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ulrich drepper, that is < 1368748341 778160 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is: sgeo........... < 1368748375 173181 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, uh, the one w/ the power series < 1368748376 218332 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1368748388 428878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who would've thought discrete maths 2 would have any practical applications < 1368748398 46707 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :practical applications in type theory < 1368748399 721024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: will you mail me some cadbury flake < 1368748412 140575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pay for postage < 1368748412 734193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow sgeo < 1368748413 790020 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the flake < 1368748423 87649 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway: are there like a lot of papers about type theory and power series < 1368748424 696242 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is cadbury flake good < 1368748440 724827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1368748441 718089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i don't know i've never had any < 1368748449 272873 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo an excellent flake < 1368748450 826912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how much would it be < 1368748456 246229 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you people put in your ice creams < 1368748458 671714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: elliott offered to pay for postage i think???? < 1368748468 676156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can elliott not buy his own flake < 1368748481 31723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: whats flake < 1368748488 83844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: its good yes < 1368748494 464427 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flake_(chocolate_bar) flake < 1368748495 119928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a: its like mekupelet hth < 1368748496 766773 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of british candy < 1368748505 781397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: eat jaffa cakes instead hth < 1368748506 59851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1368748514 477882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys don't have 99 ice creams then?? < 1368748523 803639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a: the jaffa cakes from the other day were kind of terrible hth < 1368748525 501604 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have 31 flavors < 1368748535 696217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: let me get a good picture for you < 1368748536 465275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's me who was kind of terrible???????????? < 1368748543 722681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we only have like 10 but otoh we have flakes < 1368748553 543199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: fuck you kmc jaffa cakes are vile < 1368748556 354870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.bonappetit.com/images/magazine/2011/10/hipster-candy/cadbury-flake-484.jpg < 1368748556 814720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what < 1368748563 909957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how can you be so wrong < 1368748569 402422 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah yes, hipster candy < 1368748572 887198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://shutupinternet.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/flake.jpg < 1368748575 279965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this helps < 1368748578 581329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.flickr.com/29/141111540_a537736a91_m.jpg < 1368748578 943754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: shut up internet < 1368748579 777543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1368748593 99646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: jaffa cakes are good btw < 1368748598 603213 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you also < 1368748601 743488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4965525449_295ccde31f.jpg mekupelet < 1368748605 620401 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i ever had a jaffa cake???no idea < 1368748626 182620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: "its a euphemism for simon marlow hth" < 1368748631 721257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you want me to mail you some cadbury flake's + jaffa cake's (the proper mcvities kind) < 1368748655 46962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could include uh < 1368748657 931035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1368748659 332239 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :other british things < 1368748662 667888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :send him some digestives < 1368748663 225113 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how much do OLPCs cost < 1368748663 422293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can think of any < 1368748663 937124 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :british things < 1368748665 967765 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some ginger nuts < 1368748668 361947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i'll include some digestives < 1368748669 490423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes good idea < 1368748673 866378 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he needs to learn how pretentious he is with tea < 1368748675 676475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy's going to learn ALL ABOUT biscuits < 1368748691 513223 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there a time you could buy one which would also donate one? < 1368748693 721506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photos/kirsch/141111540/sizes/l/in/photostream/ better picture < 1368748709 53142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey i saw cadbury digestive biscuits for sale today < 1368748718 93571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds kind of disgusting < 1368748721 781229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: cadbury?? did they have chocolate on them < 1368748722 386491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mekupelet looks awful < 1368748725 92535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all digestive's have chocolates < 1368748727 515644 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you could also donate some money without doing so as part of a purchased bundle. < 1368748731 44942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a laxative?? < 1368748735 540683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1368748737 309424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tasty! < 1368748738 578606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"digestive biscuit" is like the least appetizing name for a food < 1368748741 428993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fairly sweet < 1368748748 975049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and yet they are the best biscuit < 1368748751 265792 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe < 1368748752 700384 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, sure, but maybe I want one >.> < 1368748756 171307 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ginger nuts are pretty excellent < 1368748758 462721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you kind of have to dunk it in milky tea for it to taste nice tho, regardless of whether you like milky tea or not < 1368748765 794039 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they basically just netbooks? < 1368748767 621362 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, no < 1368748769 786537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since otherwise it's very... dry < 1368748769 984098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: british lifehack < 1368748770 182063 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean you can just, buy a netbook < 1368748771 654469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well it depends < 1368748778 470688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have like half a digestive then sure it's okay dry < 1368748782 801418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but imo a full one is a bit much < 1368748786 326267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is disgusting < 1368748786 524167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of late i take a bite out of the biscuit, then drink the tea and let them mix in my mouth < 1368748789 75250 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fuck milk < 1368748790 832127 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it has some custom software which is interesting iirc < 1368748798 171963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i advise against buying an OLPC XO < 1368748799 724632 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-89-182.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry are you talking about a food honestly called "digestive biscuit"