< 1370563234 393232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: presumably they plugged that hole and that's why we don't hear about it any more :tinfoil: < 1370563301 951691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel bad that i don't care more about massive government surveilance < 1370563360 61864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i personally don't have anything to hide, but i like living in a free democratic society and not one where (say) journalists are imprisoned arbitrarily based on secret surveillance < 1370563373 909078 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1370563400 542577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know you like it < 1370563402 919694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever tried < 1370563573 919217 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370563656 119659 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, thanks! I hope it made sense to someone who a) wasn't me and b) wasn't bike who followed along as I poked at the code < 1370564136 516106 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370564198 553279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why are you stalking Fiora while she pokes at code please stop immediately hth < 1370564236 60533 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh what < 1370564269 837183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see what happens when you don't logread. < 1370564276 646519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:06 -!- Bike [~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] < 1370564279 689525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:07 elliott: oh, thanks! I hope it made sense to someone who a) wasn't me and b) wasn't bike who followed along as I poked at the code < 1370564282 609591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:15 -!- Bike [~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #esoteric < 1370564285 187904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1370564295 518440 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad we had this talk < 1370564307 653492 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike was the one who suggested the life thing to begin with <.< < 1370564311 93106 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we like, talked about hashlife and stuff < 1370564314 38778 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he explained hashlife to me < 1370564338 730030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashlife? i think kmc is our expert on that (drugz joke) < 1370564346 409188 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, plz explain hashlife to me < 1370564353 246336 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1370564355 899822 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1370564377 554691 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, a given game of life is going to have a lot of repetitious space, for example huge empty areas < 1370564402 800046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i hope you are not assuming i am serious. (ever.) < 1370564408 287374 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like bob's mom < 1370564438 776127 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i mean the technical details < 1370564442 329931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bob was there too < 1370564451 693766 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, which technical details < 1370564477 865574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :confoerjan < 1370564482 311896 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you store life as a quadtree structure and take advantage of the fact that a block N spaces away from another block can't affect it for N time iterations? like the speed of light thing < 1370564519 683681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed of life < 1370564560 316998 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, so wait, do you work out how a given causally closed region evolves over generations then just iterate that? < 1370564567 408726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :life isn't a circle but a quadtree, check < 1370564572 488100 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not quite < 1370564611 908955 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: each region of space 2^n across has an center 2^(n-1) width area that can be simulated 2^(n-2) steps ahead without reference to any other 2^n block < 1370564631 209213 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've figured why the pentium2 dominated and still dominates despite having such a low instruction-per-cycle count (4, 3 in older versions... the pentium 1 could do 2) < 1370564638 465613 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speculative load/store < 1370564661 953197 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if what you do is "iterat[ing] that" exactly, it's more like just frustrums in space time (band name etc) < 1370564662 499089 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, ah, so you iterate those? < 1370564669 124752 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1370564685 628464 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want 2^(n-3) or whatever ahead you can take the future of the future, yeah < 1370564701 249645 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't nearly everything have speculative load-store nowadays? < 1370564710 119195 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ARMs < 1370564717 859716 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I guess I really only know x86 -_- < 1370564734 912175 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not stuff like power6 (in order!) < 1370564736 711744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a thing in the optimization guides even about problems caused by too many cancelled/failed speculative loads and how to deal with them < 1370564740 848397 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like how big the penalties are and stuff < 1370564782 830686 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on this design and memory aliasing is the big, big problem < 1370564819 358888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you considered moving to california < 1370564824 759669 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: rather than iterating exactly it's more like you can go deeper and deeper into the future within a region while restricting the size of that future < 1370564851 998746 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, split branching (different iterations going different ways of a branch) is another problem but that's fixable < 1370564911 71278 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory aliasing is much worse and unless compilers are very good at guessing what can't alias I'm going to have to have some sort of software anti-alias or else compilers will never output optimized code < 1370564963 772701 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means I'd go from 2 memory opcodes (load, store) to 7 (load, load-lock, load-check, store, store-unlock, lock, unlock) < 1370565001 437322 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus probably having to save/load the state of the antialias buffer on interrupts (unless the interrupt handler doesn't use antialias) < 1370565120 899161 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously this takes a dump on my instruction set design, which I'm trying to keep simple (ie I'm ending up with an almost perfect copy of mips :( ) < 1370565181 65785 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to figure out a load/store antialias mechanism that isn't heinous < 1370565391 27251 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: me? < 1370565427 745133 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory access is so awful on CPU designs, it's probably the main thing that's holding back instructions-per-cycle < 1370565460 814261 :kategory!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Quit: i spell kopumpkin with a k < 1370565521 106066 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it weren't for that there would be no need for GPUs and every game wouldn't all look the same < 1370565545 671746 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: help why did you version me < 1370565561 219124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i might ask you the same question < 1370565599 57940 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam subject: < 1370565605 769984 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Obama endorses herbal supplements" < 1370565610 163001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: THANKS < 1370565630 643202 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like that could turn people away < 1370565631 182002 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, you're back, did you get my message...? < 1370565634 950507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people anyway < 1370565783 265445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: sorry, yes < 1370565791 984999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it made sense! < 1370565816 875397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :once i figured out that the handwritten "lut" was a "lut" (i am awful at reading handwriting, always) < 1370565841 84897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it might just be my browser but the first line shows as "(Or, “how I made Life 84 times faster, with )" here < 1370565866 389028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kept thinking "lut" was like "lub" < 1370565866 716177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah for me as well < 1370565880 136939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like the fish shaped script l < 1370565885 864320 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. going to fix that < 1370565891 226955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I picked up a fondness for it while hand-writing physics homeworks or something < 1370565902 32922 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1370565911 67471 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for my crappy mousewriting :p < 1370565922 519706 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is that a good word for it? handwriting with a mouse? XD) < 1370565922 629465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I was actually going to ask if you had a drawing tablet < 1370565934 357527 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one, but I scribbed those in free time at work <.< < 1370565936 318752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause it's pretty smooth < 1370565936 795290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1370565937 587061 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*scribbled < 1370565976 703189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should read the article a second time and focus on details more < 1370565989 61811 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it too. it's easier to tell apart from an I I think < 1370565994 988321 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with handwriting where you don't have serifs < 1370565996 436533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1370566005 561105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it looks pretty) < 1370566013 327647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i write the variable l that way too < 1370566023 364630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because my l is otherwise indistinguishable from a 1 < 1370566025 684986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I use it (and have seen it used) in LaTeX too < 1370566025 902448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an I < 1370566030 656882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ell < 1370566030 729031 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, a 1 too < 1370566032 4724 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even worse < 1370566039 279730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i write a 1 with a big flag and base < 1370566063 184240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :\minesweeper1 < 1370566456 34157 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1370566473 67552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hm so I'm trying to understand this http://media.tumblr.com/5da179ea25622b1cfe2c5beb0136babd/tumblr_inline_mnxxj1SBUP1qz4rgp.png < 1370566518 733217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the type of lut[x]? < 1370566541 628797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a vector of 8 bytes, each one a cell count? < 1370566569 291896 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a vector of 8 4-bit values, but when adding it the corner case could cause the values to overflow to 5 bits < 1370566581 352511 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we just expand it to 8 bits per value, so each entry is a 64-bit (8x8bit) < 1370566602 223111 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we'd probably have to do that anyways since pshufb takes 8-bit arguments) < 1370566606 406662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1370566631 761132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you say "= (E<<3) + (A+...+I)", that's the equation for each of those 8 counts? < 1370566638 346152 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's the idea < 1370566645 321212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the respective A,...,I making up that neighborhood < 1370566646 57744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1370566656 774801 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we get 8 of those with 3 lookups, basically. < 1370566673 819577 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1370566740 63820 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, that one wasn't that clear, it kind of omits the whole simd thing of "we're actually doing this eight times" < 1370566766 58434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see, so there's one set of LUTs that goes from cell rows to sums + current cell, and another LUT that goes from those back to new cell rows < 1370566783 52907 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the last one is just 16 entries though. < 1370566793 573394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to truncate to 4 bits for the second step, but that works out because the elements that alias happen to have the same value < 1370566796 694018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :convenient :) < 1370566799 899682 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I kind of feel like it's a different thing, since the other LUTs are 16 kilobytes XD < 1370566808 742208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, true < 1370566809 204026 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, that was a total accident by the way < 1370566813 284997 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was not smartness < 1370566821 207064 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was "oops totally overlooked that oh wait it works" < 1370566858 960925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you profile the actual cache misses in this code? < 1370566904 730024 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do any profiling, but I think this should basically fit in cache? < 1370566920 385961 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 16 kilobytes of lookup table + the life board, I guess < 1370566930 79820 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like I guess it'll overflow a bit but not too much? < 1370566947 402566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd probably be pretty easy to profile though < 1370566959 217149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on linux you can use 'perf' to count cache misses < 1370566961 734315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know about windows < 1370566975 146003 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I use perf sometimes, I was just kind of lazy and didn't feel like copying it over to linux ^^; < 1370566979 325483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1370566987 283158 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... guess I could do that now? XD < 1370567003 625041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your code compiles under x86_64-linux-gnu! < 1370567011 363962 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1370567037 100982 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically horrific code, like, I tuned the inner loop size for... what happened to be the size gcc would happily unroll at -O3 -_- < 1370567063 503864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to be a fine heuristic < 1370567097 795579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oprofile has some good profiling things < 1370567109 520706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to use that < 1370567132 341286 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. gcc complains about aliasing in 4.8 @_@ I wonder why, the life board is uint8_t and it should be okay to dereference that as uint32_t < 1370567136 190130 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it might just be wrong? :< < 1370567233 41974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's safe because char* is exempt from strict aliasing rules? < 1370567255 279442 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? I thought you could access anything as char and Some Other Type < 1370567292 584943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm reading now that char and unsigned char are equivalent for this purpose, as well < 1370567298 207787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uint8_t should be a typedef for unsigned char < 1370567315 646654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the gcc warning give any more information? < 1370567374 418030 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... okay so... perf -e L1-dcache-load-misses I guess < 1370567399 643432 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says there's... 820 events... 86.46% in the kernel... 8.93% in "fast"... 1.62% in "slow" < 1370567427 240473 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gcc... < 1370567432 952818 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"life.c: In function ‘update_board_fast’: < 1370567433 61684 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :life.c:99:9: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasi < 1370567435 980833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ng rules [-Wstrict-aliasing] uintptr_t line1 = ((*(uint32_t*)&LIFE_PACKED(x-1, 0)) >> 3) & 0x3ff0; ^" < 1370567621 959923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/342326443193282560 < 1370567655 824587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does carmack know about rust < 1370567687 957518 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Different tweet) "For reliability, I would take a GC'd and memory safe dynamic language over strong typing in C/C++, but it isn't too much to ask for both!" < 1370567720 678348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :biased against ada's "strong typing" after reading about it having different types for indices into different arrays < 1370567730 157220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, C and C++'s static typing kind of sucks < 1370567738 926091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all goes well i will be a professional Rust programmer soon :) < 1370567741 114397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which (the source said and) struck me as missing the point < 1370567750 663521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: jealous!! < 1370567764 833404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the plan now < 1370567769 3329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1370567770 94752 :madbr!~madbrain@198-84-253-87.cpe.teksavvy.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370567793 876163 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember using perf was really frustrating in general because I had to like, manually look up all the event codes in the intel handbook < 1370567805 424632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc should sneak me into mozilla, I am pretty short so we could just pose as one really tall person like in films < 1370567814 826810 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it didn't seem to work with the precise events so they all had that thing where the results lag the instruction that actually caused it >_< < 1370567824 683001 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd see a bunch of cache misses 30 lines after the thing that missed the cache < 1370567825 604083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm already really tall person :/ < 1370567830 928952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: dang < 1370567833 487112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just say u had a growing spurt < 1370567842 605387 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: foolproof < 1370567846 76995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yes, that's annoying. < 1370567860 309153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was kinda useful? but like it took a lot of poking and guessing < 1370567869 137492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but what if kmc talks to people who aren't fools < 1370567871 19977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1370567881 413762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is the greater fool < 1370567886 12472 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's tall, he can just like, hide you inside of his trenchcoat < 1370567898 931918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does kmc own a trenchcoat < 1370567904 778087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a question I have never considered before today < 1370567911 591732 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does elliott? < 1370567927 101817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've considered many times buying a trenchcoat < 1370567927 794824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can start owning one if it's needed for operation mozilla < 1370567938 512322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :trenchcoat ownership is required for joining this channel < 1370567938 839346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you could also, like, apply to work at mozilla through the usual channels < 1370567947 733665 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't have one either < 1370567950 608999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds kind of hard < 1370567953 191512 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to operation strathclyde < 1370567970 808247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i heard you have to know someone on the inside for them to care about your application........ < 1370567979 302041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.//g < 1370567984 486556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also I'm not sure a 17 year old w/o any relevant qualifications is in mozilla's "demographic" < 1370567985 204921 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i had a trenchcoat but it turned out to be a sport jacket sitting on another sport jacket's shoulders. very disappointing < 1370567994 936744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you think about it, california is basically strathclyde < 1370568002 151577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :both unknowable. both eternal. both terrifying < 1370568018 325816 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's kind of weird that the only 17-year-old loser programmer i caan think of got hired by mozilla < 1370568020 240078 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :qualifications: genius, from hexham, possibly cute < 1370568044 999429 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes "possibly cute" on his resume < 1370568061 536853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can confirm that elliott is possibly cute < 1370568079 903462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to be a 17-year-old loser programmer < 1370568084 488160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i am a 25-year-old winner programmer? < 1370568086 969048 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you turned 18? < 1370568092 831399 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn! < 1370568101 421720 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I-I didn't mean that as a burn! < 1370568104 262432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1370568107 949348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: TOO LATE < 1370568124 360858 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1370568125 345268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to the mean side < 1370568148 988142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe kmc turned winner before turning 18 < 1370568156 233216 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1370568157 56728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a coworker who was 17 for a while < 1370568159 331992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he turned 18 < 1370568168 680264 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was 17 once < 1370568171 70121 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember it much though < 1370568171 585387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now he goes to caltech!!!! "kmc's future past self??" < 1370568178 759434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1370568197 104153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to caltech when i was 16 tho < 1370568200 432321 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1370568204 76801 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc really is a genius < 1370568212 289172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only a little < 1370568213 780599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: he only went when he was 19 i think < 1370568220 696564 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know way too many motherfuckers who attended college early by which i mean: any < 1370568232 377856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many motherfuckers in motherfucking college < 1370568236 215248 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1370568239 86803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you know me to balance it out!! hth < 1370568239 782312 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get out of college!! < 1370568244 112742 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I attended when I was 17... I don't think it counts as early though because I didn't skip any high school < 1370568249 949933 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i also know myself < 1370568251 856145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't skip any high school, only middle school < 1370568257 882310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:20:18 elliott: it's kind of weird that the only 17-year-old loser programmer i caan think of got hired by mozilla < 1370568261 813448 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well so did i but that's just because of a clerical weirdness < 1370568262 506792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because middle school was beyond worthless < 1370568263 204364 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I skipped like um... a little bit of kindergarten I think < 1370568269 73521 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember >_< < 1370568269 695915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: doing wonders for my self-esteem here! < 1370568284 548132 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i dunno, bbeing jwz would be pretty cool. < 1370568290 961842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, he got the fuck out of that business < 1370568292 636012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:20:20 qualifications: genius, from hexham, possibly cute < 1370568299 362693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: who gave you this confidential information < 1370568305 756983 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you :3 < 1370568312 448517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my own worst enemy............. < 1370568316 691012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did jwz work at netscape when he was 17 < 1370568318 523809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the joke here < 1370568325 982775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he did yes < 1370568331 6772 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he worked for netscape without having a degree < 1370568335 906686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i cute y/n < 1370568355 320112 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i kawaii? uguu < 1370568360 164524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he got out of the software industry and into the industry of cleaning up puke, dealing with flaky event promoters, and being harassed by the cops 24/7 < 1370568369 703345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big step up imo < 1370568371 463714 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1370568393 662875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i had like several opportunities to skip huge amounts of early school < 1370568405 195001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but turned them down because i didn't really know what was going on < 1370568414 958211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit annoying in retrospect < 1370568415 441558 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can borrow some of my moe ! < 1370568416 93000 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good now you're not a huge nerd like kmc < 1370568425 746287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how can you skip yourself < 1370568427 810504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic plz < 1370568430 504689 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: uh excuse you i ooze "the bish" < 1370568436 777882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you read the DNA Lounge blog < 1370568444 759933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fairly entertaining < 1370568446 28322 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :occasionally < 1370568450 511172 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the fire department saga < 1370568457 282287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you start at the beginning it's like 2 years of him bitching about every aspect of construction < 1370568470 755051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jwz seems like a nice guy, i mean as far as cynical jerks go < 1370568473 405571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with occasional neat technical interludes about electrical systems, or how they pump the beer through those big tubes < 1370568476 98882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, you and your floofy hair < 1370568520 412843 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it helps that he posts stupid youtube videos and such < 1370568577 625972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/log/2001/01/juice2.html < 1370568594 44958 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1370568599 890318 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THREE < 1370568607 304799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven tubes of beer, one of antifreeze < 1370568611 792839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mess up the splice < 1370568685 426872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, on to the crises of modern living < 1370568692 874534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am using a different os than i normally do < 1370568695 853129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my package manager < 1370568698 76324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :outputs emojis < 1370568716 717411 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good package manager < 1370568716 936643 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1370568719 822255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they display in full colour < 1370568749 822938 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :installation success!! [KANGXI RADICAL FIGHT] < 1370568754 253722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my whole worldview got destroyed and reconstructed from the ground up when i saw the package manager on my "other system" spontaneously render a mug of beer through my terminal < 1370568781 671203 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe that was the original idea behind project MKULTRA as well < 1370568786 584074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this Homebrew? < 1370568792 279016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1370568793 287433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be < 1370568805 268000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is yes < 1370568818 836889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like homebro < 1370568836 936940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the package manager didn't have cutesy thematic reasons to choose a mug of beer of all things I think I might have just turned off the computer and moved to mexico < 1370568848 421982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no computers in mexico < 1370568864 580854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave my whole life behind, start a new one with the single goal of avoiding all emoji reproduction devices < 1370568876 684456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are the homebrew developers bad too...... < 1370568890 513479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already hate'em because they rejected my MLton package for a bad reason years ago < 1370568891 984694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not really < 1370568902 49605 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that, people I don't know!!!! < 1370568928 757277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : we love you, elliott < 1370568929 34703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they override CFLAGS on every package with -Os because they read somewhere that this makes the code smaller and just as fast as -O2 < 1370568936 87350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : we miss you at school < 1370568943 662749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : do you think i could -- help you? < 1370568947 791788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they didn't bother to test this empirically or to determine whether it's logically possible from an understanding of computer science < 1370568952 224451 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: right i knew they did the overriding compiler flags globally thing < 1370568954 840838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit euuh < 1370568960 768722 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love cflags < 1370568975 196459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm told that they have lots of special case hacks for particular packages in the homebrew core, in order to make the 'recipes' for those packages look nice and 'elegant' < 1370568979 64909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, < 1370568979 428293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i figure, this is os x, everything is lawless and probably nothing is actually integrated as well as it seems and everything is a black box < 1370568979 683259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby. < 1370568984 418250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who cares < 1370569000 594587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, why are you using os x again? < 1370569018 540872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it would be a pain to use my main computer < 1370569035 89503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's technically worse than this one in basically every conceivable way except for having a bigger screen and running xmonad < 1370569159 249622 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so like I threw a bit more profiling at it and it looks like it's a little latency-bound on the pshufb+pmovmskb+store bit, which is kind of unsurprising I guess < 1370569187 951429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I think that's what "stalled-cycles-backend" means? < 1370569199 101069 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it has nothing to execute so the backend stalls < 1370569203 157698 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I might be wrong < 1370569260 749208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'backend' is, like, the box that hands out uops to functional units, or something? < 1370569311 323404 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "frontend" is like the instruction decoder/dispatch < 1370569314 140529 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "backend" is execution? < 1370569327 35523 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370569336 176829 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a frontend stall I think means "nothing to decode, the instruction queue is full and the backend is busy" < 1370569342 432476 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and backend means "nothing to execute" ? < 1370569357 361568 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I guess would mean... "I can't grab something off the uop queue this cycle" or something < 1370569361 394056 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea >_< < 1370569376 343184 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could maybe look up that manual again... <.< < 1370569443 210216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW is such a great codepoint. < 1370569477 314766 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it just < 1370569505 593304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+XXXX MAN < 1370569563 610420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1370570264 591769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What's a good Unicode codepoint to represent mempty? < 1370570277 400211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldMap NLeaf (S.fromList [1,2,3,4]) < 1370570279 19582 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : (((mempty * 1) * mempty) * 2) * ((mempty * 3) * ((mempty * 4) * mempty)) < 1370570283 991450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "*", for that matter. < 1370570284 581748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: more OS X stories: clicked from the homebrew FAQ to a stack overflow question about setting paths so that GUI applications see the installed command-line stuff; it recommends setting up a shell script to launch at startup that runs an emacs lisp(!) script that works out the paths and shells out to launchctl < 1370570288 569455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: would it make sense to interleave two copies of the computation using disjoint sets of xmm registers < 1370570301 430343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it literally has no particular reason to be using elisp. it's just using elisp as a scripting language. holy shit < 1370570312 600332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that improve utilization of the execution units? < 1370570326 722494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lool < 1370570340 711135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just the idea of someone on SO right < 1370570342 792524 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aren't you supposed to use Guile now" < 1370570352 755174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the FAQ recommends the answer!! < 1370570354 716337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (find-file "~/.MacOSX/environment.plist") < 1370570354 788507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (goto-char (point-min)) < 1370570354 788686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (setq start (search-forward "\n")) < 1370570354 788842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (search-forward "") < 1370570357 270476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (beginning-of-line) < 1370570359 868827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (delete-region start (point)) < 1370570362 296036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not how you are meant to do scripting tasks. help < 1370570373 19723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1370570393 334055 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it also using regexps for xml < 1370570437 457037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esr approved < 1370570473 984965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh this is annoying < 1370570478 42466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i want to do is use proof general in emacs < 1370570498 581776 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you need that elisp script < 1370570520 902911 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does macos not play nice with using proof general in emacs < 1370570539 823603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: it's more homebrew i think < 1370570543 219169 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1370570543 453601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1370570543 914056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1370570546 832625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of everything < 1370570549 47450 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried agda-mode < 1370570553 205443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs can't find coqtop & i'm not sure why < 1370570611 990819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you know where proof general looks for executables < 1370570634 881999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1370570642 135717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the emacs exec-path executable doesn't contain /usr/local/bin < 1370570684 12971 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370570699 130955 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that where homebrew puts stuff < 1370570707 657370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it uses /usr/local :/ < 1370570712 307773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also chowns /usr/local to your user < 1370570717 603452 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1370570896 239587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370570941 787842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey what do you call the two functions of an isomorphism < 1370570951 518733 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1370571002 943003 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :static vs dynamic typing debate is boring. More fun is whether or not static analysis is important < 1370571007 642992 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket vs Kernel < 1370571009 141902 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1370571122 969914 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need static analysis done dynamically obviously < 1370571136 720075 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "thisaway" and "thattaway". alt an isomorphism is just a morphism -with- an inverse--of course you'll be including the inverse as part of the evidence it has one but just a matter of framing the thought and names < 1370571162 479848 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ???? < 1370571165 414846 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what does that mean < 1370571176 394219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1370571181 57637 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1370571198 612936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :JIT! < 1370571284 837531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you kmc < 1370571302 949900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: btw is there a nice way to get all the accessors of a record to have their record argument implicit < 1370571334 555271 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk & idk < 1370571345 848228 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :respectively < 1370571375 200568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey did u know you can have a morphism which is an epimorphism and a monomorphism but not an isomorphism................................" < 1370571413 952301 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how useful < 1370571606 38398 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I have a prgmr account < 1370571610 734774 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to figure out what to do with it < 1370571638 667907 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't you have figured that out before bothering to get the account < 1370571647 946641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the Sgeo way < 1370571674 915711 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a few ideas, but not sure how well they would work out < 1370571682 888261 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quassel is apparently a memory hog?? < 1370571694 913660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much ram do you have < 1370571741 92863 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :512MB < 1370571753 160260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: hey wheres decidable defined < 1370571759 329563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/70dd6d342b3cfa171257ae5f5db630eb/tumblr_mmfer8mZZc1s11g07o1_500.png pictured: sgeo < 1370571782 3983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty foldMap NLeaf -- best function < 1370571783 120507 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (t :: * -> *) a. Foldable t => t a -> Nonoid a < 1370571801 897665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonoid? < 1370571807 593894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t NLeaf < 1370571808 687761 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. a -> Nonoid a < 1370571834 530091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit "I love ... they're so easy" has no 'm's < 1370571856 822331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: help!! < 1370571866 480441 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> NLeaf 4 < 1370571867 499875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: don t help elliott help me < 1370571868 228981 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1370571869 218792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot eh < 1370571872 446289 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah im suffering from that joke too. we all are < 1370571877 527605 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that help'd < 1370571888 560440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: WHERE IS DECIDABLE < 1370571889 448668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1370571889 646134 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS < 1370571893 52707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1370571896 255069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listchans < 1370571896 487403 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric #haskell #haskell-blah #haskell-lens #scannedinavian weird# < 1370571901 459753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is weird# < 1370571906 398326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: help me write Traversable t => NLeaf b -> t a -> t b.............................................. < 1370571914 215536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is #scannedinavian the shapr personal channel < 1370571916 444270 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet there's a right-to-left mark < 1370571916 688707 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which decidable are you looking for theres like 2 and idk if one of them is even explicitly defined < 1370571923 528370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what happened to lambdabot < 1370571928 871707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the decidable P := P \/ ~P one < 1370571935 847247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird# is /query with $PERSON hth < 1370571944 960847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to put a name in but i couldn't think of anyone i wanted to call weird < 1370571954 854351 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Logic.Decidable cant you look at the stdlib page for like 1s < 1370571956 606169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really like insulting people or being mean to them < 1370571965 296548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i do < 1370571975 804315 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: no < 1370571989 916458 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itd take less time than bothering me about it! < 1370572009 527436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i have looking at the stdlib page for like 1s-itis..... < 1370572020 955776 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe u should take the pills < 1370572028 829176 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they help" < 1370573492 475548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: thx 4 ur help < 1370573512 69077 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370573533 901361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid $ M.fromList [(1,1),(2,2)] < 1370573535 511651 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : (∅ ∙ 1) ∙ ((∅ ∙ 2) ∙ ∅) < 1370573543 866094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> > renoid ((mempty <> N 'a') <> ((mempty <> N 'b') <> mempty)) (M.fromList [(1,1),(2,2)]) < 1370573545 36488 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `>' < 1370573546 822250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> renoid ((mempty <> N 'a') <> ((mempty <> N 'b') <> mempty)) (M.fromList [(1,1),(2,2)]) < 1370573548 521605 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : fromList *Exception: Renoid (<*>): invalid structure (expected NAppend) < 1370573566 956933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1370573621 354806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1370573633 707346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I broke the Applicative laws by defining fmap = liftA! < 1370573653 608240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> renoid ((mempty <> N 'a') <> ((mempty <> N 'b') <> mempty)) (M.fromList [(1,1),(2,2)]) < 1370573655 435507 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : fromList [(1,'a'),(2,'b')] < 1370573685 642639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t renoid < 1370573686 704524 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (t :: * -> *) b a. Traversable t => Nonoid b -> t a -> t b < 1370573698 928506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :creepy < 1370573710 245064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I mean: I broke the Applicative laws. Therefore fmap = liftA was invalid. < 1370573752 766757 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-zeCXlFPjk so i guess we can confirm that shachaf is cute < 1370573801 61837 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shachaf a corgi? < 1370573802 414449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a dog???????????????????? < 1370573805 302933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thx < 1370573812 86614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather be uncute than be a dog < 1370573824 848958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a cool lawbreaking dog? < 1370573830 608064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that runs around a golf course < 1370573837 357108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you talking about achewood now < 1370573840 88611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that dog is so happy < 1370573846 841374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm talking about the video that Bike linked!!!!!! < 1370573854 527987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not watching dog videos hth < 1370573858 751359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat videos 4 lyfe < 1370573879 381257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow!! < 1370573879 605173 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did YOU find a DIGITAL WATCH in YOUR box of VELVEETA? < 1370573909 791031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this video is adorable < 1370573929 973842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's so excited to destroy the moral fabric of society < 1370573979 277178 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should look into icecast streaming my .midis < 1370573982 618646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the point of dogs is that they're so happy all the time for no reason < 1370573988 320500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least some dogs? < 1370573996 65425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes one happy just to be around such a creature < 1370574005 993242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'might not work if they could talk' < 1370574025 628239 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you read Where The Red Fern Grows too many times < 1370574032 452928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should read raymond smullyan's things.................... < 1370574036 484903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he talks about dogs and things < 1370574038 520136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1370574050 304230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he even has an answer to "Does a dog have buddha nature?" < 1370574060 308904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the answer is yes hth) < 1370574086 857174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad that's settled < 1370574098 852441 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, now i don't need to behead my disciple < 1370574172 265262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I think the pseudocode assembly is slightly hard to follow; I don't know what line0[0] means exactly < 1370574186 137967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the actual code is nice and readable! (once I found a 7z extracter :) < 1370574228 39181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should use deco!! < 1370574232 440119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what the hip kids use to extract archives < 1370574235 895223 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even know i had a 7z extractor but there's 7za for some reason < 1370574252 36284 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the highest compression ratio, according to man. good format!! < 1370574268 92567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to man and beast < 1370574284 406157 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beast's manuals are pretty unreliable tbh < 1370574295 961108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEAST and CRIME < 1370574462 847608 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :7z is pretty crappy, except for the clever deflate compression that's able to make compatible zip files smaller < 1370574638 262057 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's probably good at other kinds of compression too, but other programs can also do that) < 1370574929 270058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I need an *alphanumeric* character to represent mempty. < 1370574932 522178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ∅ won't do. < 1370574934 615368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I use? < 1370574946 851255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ < 1370574960 344163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ꙮ = 5 in ꙮ < 1370574961 473520 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1370574963 864637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an option. < 1370574985 315034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any others? < 1370575037 718762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ø = 5 in ø < 1370575038 964222 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5 < 1370575039 329634 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ø < 1370575044 342569 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jinx. < 1370575052 347455 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it need to be alphanumeric, out of curiosity < 1370575065 402781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, I could use ø. < 1370575069 924055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, ø it is. < 1370575073 423816 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it is allowed as a haskell identifier I guess < 1370575099 12605 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo agda < 1370575117 169806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid "hello" < 1370575118 946091 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'h' ∙ ('e' ∙ ('l' ∙ ('l' ∙ ('o' ∙ ø)))) < 1370575133 189333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hönan agda < 1370575152 508412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> renoid ('h' ∙ ('e' ∙ ('l' ∙ ('l' ∙ ('o' ∙ ø))))) "eliot" < 1370575153 700208 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `L.Nonoid b0' < 1370575153 810659 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `G... < 1370575160 823273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1370575164 421762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1370575168 170423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That won't work. :-( < 1370575173 976607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I add Ns everywhere? < 1370575193 58255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid "hello" < 1370575194 769069 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : N 'h' ∙ (N 'e' ∙ (N 'l' ∙ (N 'l' ∙ (N 'o' ∙ ø)))) < 1370575215 79472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid [Just 1, Nothing] < 1370575216 695347 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : N Just 1 ∙ (N Nothing ∙ ø) < 1370575223 327547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I need to get my precedence right. < 1370575228 949985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid [Just 1, Nothing] < 1370575230 630048 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : N Just 1 ∙ (N Nothing ∙ ø) < 1370575238 504734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid [Just 1, Nothing] < 1370575240 188270 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : N Just 1 ∙ (N Nothing ∙ ø) < 1370575243 163348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid [Just 1, Nothing] < 1370575244 877303 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : N Just 1 ∙ (N Nothing ∙ ø) < 1370575247 608423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, maybe /msg < 1370575303 415304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid [Just 1, Nothing] < 1370575305 147601 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : N (Just 1) ∙ (N Nothing ∙ ø) < 1370575696 21730 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1370575742 742823 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: okay I'll go try to define those more clearly! < 1370575761 411952 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep seeing jconn join but have never seen it leave < 1370575778 597840 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog jcon.*has left < 1370575818 352886 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3708 < 1370575846 435832 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you win this round < 1370575880 501395 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: okay, added an extra paragraph, I hope that makes slightly more sense < 1370575896 18868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and um, sorry for using 7z < 1370575898 962634 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a dumb windows user < 1370575899 975908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was quick! < 1370575916 83043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, this makes more sense now < 1370575969 654049 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I kind of did that *flail flail must quickly add and fix things* thing <.< < 1370575987 39449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you apologizing for being too quick < 1370576029 665067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nonoid "hth" < 1370576031 517331 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : N 'h' ◇ (N 't' ◇ (N 'h' ◇ ε)) < 1370576044 661655 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.... I guess I am < 1370576050 56373 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm apologizing for rushing it. < 1370576107 146187 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with 7z? < 1370576120 804607 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux seems to like xz and windows likes 7z? < 1370576124 111688 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1370576132 540355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing really, it's just not common on linux < 1370576144 833492 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're like, two variants of the same thing < 1370576174 737240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why wouldn't you use 7z? < 1370576180 244546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you use Windows and all. < 1370576283 274010 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... because I'm sending things to linux users I guess? :< I don't know < 1370576393 685111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took about 2 seconds to install a 7z decompressor so, no worries < 1370576621 842743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now when you need 7z and are pressed for time, you'll already have it < 1370576697 238676 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. when terrorists invade and the only vial of antidote is 7z compressed < 1370577220 149149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let! a = undefined in () < 1370577221 332995 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1370577222 239340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = undefined in () < 1370577223 370360 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1370577234 867887 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1370577244 705640 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:53:37] OK, this isn't the channel for misleading syntax. < 1370577258 477740 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bang patterns? < 1370577272 391081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: it's let-bang obviously hth < 1370577281 810346 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can haz set!? < 1370577286 883201 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: was that from #haskell? < 1370577293 707857 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah < 1370577334 252870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, makes sense then < 1370577344 506502 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously this *is* the channel for misleading syntax < 1370577386 844851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let set! x y = y `seq` writeIORef x y < 1370577387 195968 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse error in pattern: x < 1370577392 76869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let set!x y = y `seq` writeIORef x y < 1370577392 295259 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse error in pattern: x < 1370577404 383919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty let set! x y = y `seq` writeIORef x y in () < 1370577405 388233 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parse error in pattern: x < 1370577411 266968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1370577433 301105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get the problem with "let a = undefined in ()"? < 1370577434 321663 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :let (!) set x y = ... < 1370577452 17374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let set! x y = "hi" in () < 1370577453 103764 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1370577475 824710 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't that just... < 1370577481 219194 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let set! x y = "hi" in set! 4 5 < 1370577482 607548 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Arr.Array i0 e0' < 1370577482 821970 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual... < 1370577495 538988 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well i don't know anything < 1370578360 315068 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1370578375 904169 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1370580300 755440 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1370580486 53494 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1370580869 226961 :Puffball!~neuropuff@108-66-166-228.lightspeed.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370581113 223750 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 NICK :lifthrasiir < 1370581214 1109 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370584048 731401 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-190-48.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370584295 9867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The defense of this practice offered by Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, who as chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee is supposed to be preventing this sort of overreaching, was absurd. She said on Thursday that the authorities need this information in case someone might become a terrorist in the future." < 1370585124 242469 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds legit. < 1370585125 56947 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :away < 1370586028 353323 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-190-48.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370586596 361583 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370586927 264479 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Gotta go < 1370587670 664134 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1370588361 685933 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1370588665 155517 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1370590522 192660 :rntz^2_!~rntz@eos.sp.cs.cmu.edu NICK :rntz < 1370590612 988047 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370590625 110361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1370590728 852829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome rntz < 1370590733 235096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09rntz: Welcome to the i06nt02ernatio13nal hub for e06soteric programming language design and 13deployment! Fo12r more inf08ormat11ion,05 check o12ut our09 wiki: http09://es05o03lang13s.or09g/06wi03ki14/Main_Pag05e. (For the other 14kind of esote05ric14a, try 11#esoteric09 o02n04 irc.dal.n10et07.) < 1370591298 972314 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1370591560 29854 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370591628 43314 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370591694 686418 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370592133 963484 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370592134 181808 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370592326 220654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370592729 981030 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370593220 302090 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1370593670 488325 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370594443 893794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1370595176 954407 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370595272 2606 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370595360 288189 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370595468 194174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1370596017 990203 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370596051 619035 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PART :#esoteric < 1370596252 75255 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370596273 965487 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370597120 268132 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370597488 936513 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370598260 31981 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370599193 948080 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1370599941 259311 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370600001 250140 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370600833 322678 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370601590 12445 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370602025 20540 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370602298 424735 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370602795 661268 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370603102 629955 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370603892 270624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370604545 293255 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370604570 746555 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1370604651 816449 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370604702 506894 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db430c9.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetings < 1370604720 684292 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetings < 1370604779 671604 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db430c9.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are things going oklodroog? < 1370604788 896165 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370604789 112086 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :finely! < 1370604799 988974 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how be you < 1370604844 372519 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are finishing a 40 page paper on categories; i still don't know the definition of a monad, and i barely understand adjoint functors. < 1370604844 483452 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370604853 336333 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db430c9.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i'm doing good.. made some decicions i pushed forward too long < 1370604860 963456 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were those???????? < 1370604861 509361 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db430c9.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel better now < 1370604873 118377 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db430c9.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh don't want to point that out < 1370604876 12594 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1370604879 479677 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1370604882 675753 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1370604923 677571 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1370604940 143901 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370605301 929753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370605532 689613 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1370605930 901817 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370606279 375404 :ThePoster32!~LOL@212.150.184.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370606279 519339 :ThePoster32!~LOL@212.150.184.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.us | ibooter.info < 1370606279 591343 :ThePoster32!~LOL@212.150.184.190 PART :#esoteric < 1370606660 978727 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric < 1370606691 280467 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370606726 232462 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370606768 232139 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibooter is the best < 1370607393 208705 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370607649 245950 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370607924 730918 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370608134 283534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370608385 294348 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370608408 267019 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370608412 903399 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1370608696 999998 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1370608858 298907 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1370608859 585473 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :on 3 < 1370608861 784381 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1370608862 877062 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1370608863 935950 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1370608865 392741 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibooter!! < 1370608870 506624 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1370608871 861569 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibooter is super awesome < 1370608888 596916 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14:57:48] Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.us | ibooter.info < 1370608895 387419 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to be helpful < 1370608926 101058 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case someone here wants to take someone offline friends. < 1370609043 503750 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks oko < 1370609130 1329 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370609358 369510 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no probo < 1370609408 380912 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i'm going to take offline friends < 1370609409 516467 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PART :#esoteric < 1370609417 24644 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370610089 39549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370610112 510758 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning < 1370610118 122047 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan WHACK! < 1370610118 377019 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1370610377 43345 :ThePoster62!~LOL@212.150.184.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370610377 191379 :ThePoster62!~LOL@212.150.184.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.us | ibooter.info < 1370610377 336817 :ThePoster62!~LOL@212.150.184.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ibooter.us || http://ibooter.info Join us ! < 1370610377 593797 :ThePoster62!~LOL@212.150.184.98 PART :#esoteric < 1370610539 344726 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370610786 729615 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1370611041 481969 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theoatmeal.com/blog/tesla_response < 1370611059 788516 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should stop reading this but i can't and i continue to have this overwhelming urge to punch things < 1370611112 887680 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, imo read phantom-hoover.tumblr.com hth < 1370611123 652938 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you < 1370611130 533104 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you done with the real Taneb < 1370611143 771059 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm secretly fizzie < 1370611277 163162 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or AM I < 1370611284 73256 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :christ, what a smug piece of shit < 1370611290 305960 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not you) < 1370611739 80616 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont read "the oatmeal" < 1370611833 273963 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370612079 5682 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1370612387 206872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: afaik, that never happened < 1370612412 722337 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall being there when it did? < 1370612433 843006 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But saying that I sometimes insert myself into stories < 1370612438 26416 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subconciously < 1370612438 511856 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when what happened < 1370612451 996106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be thinking of the time when people fed a troll for ~10 minutes and they said they'd "learn haskell" and then never came back < 1370612465 947091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then paraded this as somehow some kind of good way to deal with trolls < 1370612480 548644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoo boy, new esolang "LOLScript" < 1370612489 985734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is based off of the Lua scripting language and is similar to LOLCODE, though with more recent memes and stuff. < 1370612501 236537 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLScript++ < 1370612506 852717 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thhanks for informing me i'll check it out < 1370612523 36202 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he never came back, isn't that the definition of a good way of dealing with trolls? < 1370612529 601333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea of there being new revisions of the LOLCode standard adjusted to handle new memes < 1370612529 710821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not the best way, but... < 1370612540 149016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no because they occupied the channel for ages first < 1370612552 424985 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Taneb: afaik, that never happened < 1370612556 774016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the very first thing they said was obviously bannable, so... < 1370612558 862179 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what never happened help < 1370612573 896330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: replying to a statement made in another channel to avoid derailing the topic!! < 1370612589 301004 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo tell me the statement < 1370612591 834980 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, dunno, it never happened < 1370612622 613409 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I stand corrected < 1370612622 685209 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: 07.16:39:23 Taneb | Remember the time there was a troll in here and he ended up learning Haskell? < 1370612630 78528 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: -- #haskell < 1370612642 299964 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh, lolscript is bad < 1370612648 822422 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in SO MANY CHANNELS it's scary < 1370612672 891245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :homotopy type theory is so weird < 1370612688 322310 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it actually have to do with homotopy < 1370612699 436980 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure homotopy is ants walking around spheres and suc < 1370612700 910344 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1370612705 417635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is < 1370612717 187215 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, we are all nought but ants walking around spheres < 1370612724 351898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: it relates the type theory equality to homotopy < 1370612727 742052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then shit gets weird < 1370612759 83377 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, weird arcane pseudogeometry weird? < 1370612767 921875 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem Sleuth weird? < 1370612775 640916 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agda weird? < 1370612779 778435 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many kinds of weird < 1370612780 601396 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember that guy on /r/math who was talking about homotopy type theory < 1370612789 802036 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you were all like "oh well what does he know about constructivism" < 1370612810 608423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1370612823 198924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: like you have a type I < 1370612825 975458 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1370612829 436054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where zero, one : I < 1370612839 537235 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1370612852 160102 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good type purchase imo < 1370612854 131411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I-rec : forall P (a b : P), a = b -> I -> P < 1370612865 976670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where I-rec P a b H zero = a < 1370612869 667037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I-rec P a b H one = b < 1370612895 632197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is somehow not a pointless waste of time because = represents ~paths~ < 1370612929 808320 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you know you're a troll < 1370613511 737388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :( < 1370613520 101445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you'll encourage people to do it the next time too < 1370613733 682996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good propaganda < 1370613821 404769 :ThePoster62!~LOL@212.150.184.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370613821 522853 :ThePoster62!~LOL@212.150.184.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.us | ibooter.info < 1370613822 474279 :ThePoster62!~LOL@212.150.184.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ibooter.us || http://ibooter.info Join us ! < 1370613822 546086 :ThePoster62!~LOL@212.150.184.98 PART :#esoteric < 1370613901 723137 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes!!!! < 1370613970 491589 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1370613980 323791 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a polite spam < 1370613989 490189 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.s. remember visual befunge < 1370614035 642248 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1370614133 601969 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange, my RPi just rebooted by itself about an hour ago. Before I was home. < 1370614153 140899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has gained sentience < 1370614157 347464 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly < 1370614168 85495 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing of note in the logs either < 1370614346 600865 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370614984 339340 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1370615462 848990 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370615632 769004 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1370615673 688613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1370615681 256747 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370615901 814923 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370615999 199103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek it's a drone everybody duck! < 1370615999 411038 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1370616013 794244 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1370616015 697787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1370616015 953510 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 1h 38m 18s ago: WHACK! < 1370616026 617506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily *OUCH* < 1370616026 875617 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1370616263 173669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : mnoqy: btw is there a nice way to get all the accessors of a record to have their record argument implicit <-- that's what .. wildcards are for hth < 1370616286 938640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which i know you already hate, making this rather paradoxical) < 1370616322 211934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless this isn't haskell. i suppose it could be coq or something. < 1370616348 320019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's coq yes < 1370616440 934229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hey did u know you can have a morphism which is an epimorphism and a monomorphism but not an isomorphism................................" <-- yes < 1370616465 210799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in Set, of course. < 1370616633 493987 :ThePoster60!~COS@212.150.184.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370616633 565869 :ThePoster60!~COS@212.150.184.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.us | ibooter.info < 1370616634 472373 :ThePoster60!~COS@212.150.184.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ibooter.us || http://ibooter.info Join us ! < 1370616634 544159 :ThePoster60!~COS@212.150.184.98 PART :#esoteric < 1370616656 819764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you sshould ban 212.150.184.98 hth < 1370616659 305579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*should < 1370616703 964615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has this happened before? < 1370616774 91906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1370616781 244839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an hour ago < 1370616789 771708 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :will this happen again? < 1370616826 829534 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the fourth time < 1370616868 951308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh the monoid example is so easy: "In the category of monoids, Mon, the inclusion map N → Z is a non-surjective epimorphism." < 1370616895 529259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good since the topology example i was thinking of apparently is wrong < 1370617050 123934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is a common mistake to believe that epimorphisms are either identical to surjections or that they are a better concept. Unfortunately this is rarely the case; epimorphisms can be very mysterious and have unexpected behavior. It is very difficult, for example, to classify all the epimorphisms of rings. In general, epimorphisms are their own unique concept, related to surjections but fundamentally different." < 1370617058 713794 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1370617059 405554 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370617063 964139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo op me < 1370617089 282435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@212.150.184.98 > 1370617089 304477 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370617109 738832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1370617109 776315 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370617287 297380 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, my down arrow key is not working perfectly. < 1370617310 943916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the down keeping you, man < 1370617375 273400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going to be a problem < 1370617412 144695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1370617521 403730 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if i even use the arrow keys any more < 1370617534 332701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :: NLeaf < 1370617538 307682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t NLeaf < 1370617539 507608 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `NLeaf' < 1370617557 722812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's a ver kappa thing < 1370617585 643657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+y i think my keys aren't working perfectly either < 1370617624 678172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom___Hoover: recalling lines on irc! < 1370617652 786307 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah < 1370617656 398443 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite a big one < 1370617710 920153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, the down arrow key is just... not responding at all < 1370617719 783716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck do the keyboard problems always happen to me < 1370617769 432995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know how to go down in the irc line history in irssi... < 1370617772 615119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(withotu using down arrow) < 1370617785 571637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/help bind hth < 1370617930 225785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1370617933 860818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is unbearable < 1370617967 980473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bind whateveryouwant down < 1370618014 28150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there's a /bind down forwardhistory < 1370618025 703185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*forward_history < 1370618062 431962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: except it's unbearable elsewhere too. < 1370618067 553927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, choosing URL completinos < 1370618070 475012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ions < 1370618085 285265 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370618085 502623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I still use arrow keys out of habit when editing files :( < 1370618118 830645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic i cannot help you < 1370618146 826890 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you should always have at least 2 backup keyboards! < 1370618152 1083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* /bind whateveryouwant key down < 1370618171 172906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it is a laptop < 1370618416 725652 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even so < 1370618434 823613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a cookbook! < 1370618465 356198 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370618686 761379 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck it < 1370618705 309352 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: help < 1370618853 549571 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: please hold while we redirect your call... ♪ < 1370618853 665962 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1370618860 754286 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1370618860 970574 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 47m 14s ago: *OUCH* < 1370618876 686234 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370619290 337423 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1370619398 742767 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370619538 450656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I like the idea of there being new revisions of the LOLCode standard adjusted to handle new memes <-- does it include the harlem shake twh < 1370619571 464441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh < 1370619574 392523 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1370619586 352046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn twh would help. < 1370619590 766963 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to do the harlem shake, but ain't nobody got time for that < 1370619591 8712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1370619685 754690 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370620029 906048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: thx now i'm up to date < 1370620031 977281 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1370620033 699452 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand.? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1370620039 331132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn twh would help, but is an hth derivative. hth. twh. hand. < 1370620044 116220 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1370620067 459201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1370620069 404950 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1370620126 398267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for an apple, got to shake of these there darn doctors < 1370620129 731894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*off < 1370620402 111947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's do the haapple shake. *woob woob woob* < 1370620439 292891 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370620579 493707 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1370620641 260667 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370620801 256771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370620846 859354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1370620854 877007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheneveripressspace < 1370620856 821248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itpressesdownkey < 1370620861 399009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohmygod < 1370620866 886218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdoidisablethedownkey < 1370620871 526635 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370620890 754357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1370620920 139094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1370620925 608911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1370620927 758828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'o;sfjklbe `p[eklvntzklgsm < 1370620927 975535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1370620928 194886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1370620928 521911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1370620929 309946 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1370620929 381774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you do /bind space key down or something < 1370620935 152304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's system wide < 1370620939 63637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1370620957 317894 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1370620960 634990 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hi < 1370620969 114879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1370621036 69368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you open the relevant setting file in an editor? actually open the editor and then the file, i guess < 1370621065 363645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there is such a file but i have downloaded some key remapping software that will maybe let me disable down key < 1370621150 901983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this is somehow like writing without e, but worse < 1370621181 564059 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you got spaces back! < 1370621185 428590 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what os? < 1370621220 688567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so he did maybe i should pay attention < 1370621272 616726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: os x < 1370621299 813189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if someone has made puzzles based on most of your keyboard not working < 1370621375 680962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, having only the left half up to the "6" key < 1370621421 678694 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dat wed sac < 1370621440 313351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how did you manage to press return twh < 1370621452 160328 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I have at least two backup keyboards < 1370621458 935563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1370621473 110159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1370621475 330449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. (see also: d-modules) < 1370621525 287169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards. (see also: d-modules) < 1370621529 401686 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1370621539 183881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i felt this was important information. < 1370621543 823669 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I actually do have two spare keyboards) < 1370621571 271797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370621577 506638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is important enough to stay in wisdom even if it is accurate. < 1370621587 791220 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one's an old PS/2 keyboard because I can't edit BIOS settings with a USB one for some reason, and my PS/2 keyboard is really clacky) < 1370621728 447719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gain < 1370621730 708654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1370621733 7208 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1370621734 313326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neing < 1370621735 142059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1370621737 958919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happening again < 1370621781 259590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :his mind is going, he can feel it < 1370621819 253403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hopefully ive fixed it < 1370621831 485313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have a replacement down key < 1370621833 947149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the form of shift-right < 1370621869 932183 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1370621958 225398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1370622401 503614 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1370622408 637512 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1370622478 73843 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :problems with iour keiboard, again? < 1370622561 796284 :nooga_!~nooga@95.108.113.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370622571 391967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :( < 1370622703 757250 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370623205 872497 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370623279 706823 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1370623944 782670 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370623984 248081 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370624472 259926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1370624551 174919 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've started using egojsout as a js benchmark < 1370624947 256466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1370625129 456039 :ThePoster56!~COS@212.150.184.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370625129 604451 :ThePoster56!~COS@212.150.184.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.us | ibooter.info < 1370625129 676437 :ThePoster56!~COS@212.150.184.181 PART :#esoteric < 1370625224 759455 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370625404 63926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: help < 1370625410 973906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nu wat < 1370625415 769964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should report it in #freenode < 1370625418 798393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1370625437 816400 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it even from a consistent ip range < 1370625453 777639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed it was consistent since elliott asked me to ban the ip hth < 1370625486 63220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1370625487 892719 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1370625487 932856 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370625501 854394 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370625505 71030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*@212.150.184.98 > 1370625505 94409 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370625512 994493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@212.150.184.* > 1370625513 17008 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370625519 332435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1370625519 354997 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370625579 57727 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1370625590 165756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no reverse lookup even on 212.0.0.0 < 1370625606 55902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be important then. < 1370625701 758426 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370625714 822462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you report < 1370625728 857700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it showing up in #haskell as well? < 1370625758 545913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in £haskell < 1370625763 450405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't care enough to report :p < 1370625771 464946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1370626321 500088 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1370626476 294983 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370626998 212396 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1370629366 885398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1370629407 831505 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1370629826 692855 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1370629852 59390 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370630623 459982 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-38-181.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1370630715 94023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370631151 277766 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1370631638 454953 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so having completed Gunpoint, the obvious question now is 'is it TC' < 1370632174 405189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In fact, the electric force trying to push the two protons in a helium nucleus apart is comparable to the weight of a truck!" < 1370632380 246143 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the two protons in a helium atom in the same 'place' < 1370632433 5992 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they are < 1370632455 391623 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, not if I understand the Pauli Exclusion Principle right < 1370632480 243135 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, unless there is something differing between the two protons other than position < 1370632499 862632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have exact positions anyway < 1370632550 726732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading http://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/the-known-forces-of-nature/the-strength-of-the-known-forces/ btw < 1370632644 629065 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let me put that more precisely: < 1370632667 14878 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The symmetries of a helium nucleus have no translational components. < 1370632704 616672 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've read that the nucleus is spherically symmetric, so that seems accurate.) < 1370632761 642892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i take it that means the protons have the same _average_ position, which because they're waves doesn't mean they cannot also have a non-zero average distance. < 1370632865 450368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, their combined state is a wave function in 6 dimensions or so. < 1370632929 28246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck atoms < 1370632932 78327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too weird < 1370632936 849230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not allowed to exist now < 1370632971 796382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's if you assume the forces are weak enough that you can do with only quantum mechanics, not full quantum field theory; the article mentions something about that. < 1370633086 248384 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I knew that atoms were Canadian at heart. < 1370633165 672497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you understand homotopy type theory < 1370633172 443000 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :energy is force-over-distance; isn't part of the reason the "force" is so strong because it's over a super super short distance? < 1370633197 917828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: even worse than i understand quantum field theory. < 1370633210 937178 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, breaking apart the two protons still requires a microscopic amount of energy, even though the force is macroscopic? < 1370633233 546378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1370633291 348416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk -> < 1370633881 36331 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1370634699 30127 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1370634900 739090 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, the strong force actually doesn't attenuate past a certain point < 1370634930 359983 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370634961 480240 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have, like, a quark and an antiquark of complementary colour a metre apart in a vacuum they produce something like 10^5N of force < 1370635058 112994 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intranuclear forces do though because they're between bound quarks < 1370635081 775485 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370635505 120467 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I thought if you pull them too far apart you just get quark-antiquark pairs? < 1370635518 680672 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you do < 1370635526 34285 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't actually pull them a meter away from each other really < 1370635560 157036 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those forces are purely theoretical, afaik < 1370635567 535993 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370635572 674370 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are pretty much constant beyond a certain distance, though < 1370636411 837781 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys http://i.imgur.com/X6XGqp8.png < 1370636430 629458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1370636511 531067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1370637202 328236 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have pygame and wanna test this: http://bpaste.net/show/1pfyaHB9PS08lDoYRR2O/ < 1370637228 539581 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind, it's very crashy at the moment. < 1370637249 101984 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't underflow the stack < 1370637261 716342 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the torus doesn't wrap yet... < 1370637344 527396 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i'm a fucking idiot. it needs the graphics of course < 1370637356 913811 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, for the torus? < 1370637367 506487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : File "chose.py", line 147 < 1370637369 557161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : elif tile == 'add': bin_op(lambda a, b: a + b) < 1370637372 396272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : File "chose.py", line 35 < 1370637374 580150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : def in_field((x, y)): return y < HEIGHT * 16 < 1370637376 532292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1370637378 493789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: invalid syntax < 1370637379 510963 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1370637388 494855 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no just in general; it won't run without the thingies < 1370637430 832922 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also im bad for pasting the wrong thing < 1370637503 735296 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15495351/visualbefunge.zip here < 1370637509 566013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows user!! < 1370637514 98053 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: make sure you run it in python 2.7 < 1370637535 753767 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that second complaint is because python 3 removed the argument unpacking syntax < 1370637542 351798 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why did that happen???????) < 1370637562 938195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first complaint comes from python 2.7.5. < 1370637578 951053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it chokes on the elif. < 1370637590 268742 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i've fixed that one now < 1370637674 562220 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :b/c pattern matching is too useful for guido < 1370637677 915686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like tail calls and folds < 1370637689 22362 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and good lambdas < 1370637702 716646 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fucking, case statements, ugh < 1370637840 718192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :case statements are pattern matching nooodl_!! < 1370637845 749023 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-190-48.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370637847 666488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also sum types, I forgot sum types < 1370637883 341850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck it < 1370637884 202386 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to refer to that one previously mentioned. < 1370638049 614639 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pyskell < 1370638064 307463 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370638143 931508 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pyskellman, and his arch-nemesis, visualjavaman! < 1370638156 880707 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you testing it < 1370638172 611206 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so i have some exciting interface things to explain!! < 1370638221 340504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: no can do. we're in a rush here, trying to buckle up patches for a release. < 1370638227 226101 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah for fun friday nights... :( < 1370638235 165924 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip :( < 1370638241 702215 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is boily releasing < 1370638319 212765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we're working on a [REDACTED] that will go in [REDACTED]. < 1370638329 353368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it has ethernet) < 1370638339 663700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: making me more curious is forbidden. < 1370638527 465834 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370638565 818616 :nooga_!~nooga@95.108.113.152 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370638813 264236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well as you clearly see, they're making an SCP hth < 1370638840 60616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if only. for now, all it does it sit here and spew various error messages. < 1370639040 350565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you _think_ it does. < 1370639194 83368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :twist: I don't think. < 1370639211 755760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be for the best. < 1370639390 700877 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370639495 289250 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1370639566 104518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner_ is olsner's evil goatee twin. < 1370639586 373580 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there two of me? which one am I? < 1370639653 735676 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370639686 677566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner_: I think the barred version of you is the only one left. < 1370639697 987469 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you done? which crime have you perpetrated? you monster! < 1370639702 827970 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be disbarred < 1370639706 960567 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se NICK :olsner < 1370639896 982618 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now you're evading law and impersonating an innocent bystander... what are the next unspeakable horrific limits you'll cross? < 1370639935 918227 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done no such thing < 1370639986 130273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that olsner_ was horrible though < 1370640265 712517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wields his eviltwinon counter... *beep*... *beep*... *beep*... *BEEEEEEEEEEEP*! < 1370640311 401282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the machine does not lie. obey the computer. please report to the nearest alpha-complex termination center. thanks for your gentle coöperation! < 1370640340 112051 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-145.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1370640346 380514 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1370640349 291598 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not Taneb, olsner. < 1370640352 112050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1370640405 55407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :twist: we are _all_ evil twins. < 1370640498 278674 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1370640630 803280 :mumm-ra!~econoclas@dns3.outi.com.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1370640678 657984 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: speak for yourself. I'm a pure and chaste Canadian. < 1370640699 166292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, all of us that _exist_ are evil twins. < 1370640753 620862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ørjan < 1370640754 977704 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ørjan. Than. < 1370640780 677686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense a flaw in the vowel recognition here < 1370640802 644245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :than < 1370640809 987453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather. < 1370640866 660390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Dan Rather < 1370640868 198599 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Dan Rather. Than Rather. < 1370640888 515877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the frequency, kenneth? < 1370641006 268250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the vector, victor < 1370641045 750132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1370641046 531618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1370641057 354039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*our < 1370641063 204924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a reference to that film i haven't seen < 1370641084 212734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that like, everything. < 1370641091 734617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/50k_nl6Q4vs < 1370641109 852607 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what isn't, like, everything? < 1370641126 918959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep man < 1370641317 758850 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370641480 761674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen kmc < 1370641485 133669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-07 03:39:53: it took about 2 seconds to install a 7z decompressor so, no worries < 1370641499 782807 :mumm-ra!~econoclas@dns3.outi.com.br PART :#esoteric < 1370641499 854775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time zone are you in HackEgo < 1370641514 974451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :utc < 1370641522 461822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the logs, anyway < 1370641552 983061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo `seen should use my time zone < 1370641565 57815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. say "so and so many billion years ago" < 1370641624 402098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" hth < 1370641647 276568 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itym < 1370641648 975549 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1370641670 886202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is the reincarnation of either darth vader or jar-jar binks < 1370641694 236900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn itym "i think you mean" hth < 1370641697 958187 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1370641700 557479 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go with jar-jar. more safe. < 1370641711 480199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1370641759 382148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I ever get the urge to punch it, jar-jar is more squishy. all these electronics are sharp and may cut my knuckles off. < 1370642383 628655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1370642396 872499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmc < 1370642495 612722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you have firefox < 1370642501 673880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere < 1370642516 439213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: look at http://shachaf.net/sel.html with firefox < 1370642530 595608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370642563 13682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1370642567 909138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :search for your password < 1370642571 808572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^F < 1370642582 277694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1370642585 778623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I see < 1370642587 349965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. clever < 1370642607 134157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'applications of de bruijn sequences' < 1370642616 509495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no de bruijn sequences necessary < 1370642633 93687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a de bruijn sequence containing every possible n-character password would be p. big....... < 1370642643 924070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1370642648 887207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do in firefox? < 1370642682 235179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It figures out your password as you search for it. < 1370642700 86871 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it breaks really badly when I try to select text < 1370642704 975198 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I think it crashed firefox :/ < 1370642715 375939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woops" < 1370642720 475773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crashed? < 1370642725 784741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I had to kill it < 1370642729 658028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh. < 1370642735 919046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did it too. < 1370642738 276612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what happened. < 1370642748 214996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I didn't have to kill it. < 1370642755 413781 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my firefox must be special. it doesn't do much. < 1370642763 921616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you ^F-search for your password? < 1370642784 391907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I /-ed my password. I have pentadactyl :D < 1370642798 620969 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerd < 1370642812 568198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw why does it use
s weirdly
< 1370642820 372361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i like 
s
< 1370642824 930021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I work at a linux promoting company, of course I'm a nerd.
< 1370642832 559523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should it use
< 1370642838 192691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is it red hat
< 1370642851 722115 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nope.
< 1370642852 195186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it does some weird thing turning it into 
  • s??? < 1370642873 395433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the
  • s are inside a
      < 1370642885 67958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's probably not actually necessary but i thought it was necessary before < 1370642888 675517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a bug < 1370642902 867132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can probably do something adaptive to generate the text as the user searches for it < 1370642931 4876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yep, I thought of that but didn't want to bother. < 1370642943 473970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can look as if you're really finding passwords in the document. < 1370642969 10819 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it supposed to just display the thing i'm searching for at the top of the page < 1370642979 276137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1370642994 676621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: one idea i liked from Tangled Web is, you do something that invokes a scary confirmation dialog (e.g. downloading an exe, granting camera privileges) and then you pop up a browser window over the dialog, with a link right over the "confirm" button in the dialog < 1370643008 478909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you extrapolate mouse movements to determine when the user is about to click the button < 1370643012 991311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and close the window just before they do < 1370643016 959084 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1370643021 485755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :click the innocuous link, i mean < 1370643024 656064 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's incredibly evil < 1370643027 180054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1370643032 341339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1370643040 730781 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt there also like, a thing wher eyou get someone to click a link by putting a frame above it but making the click go through it? < 1370643045 720991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1370643047 122971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1370643066 474345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I know of the reverse, where you put the real target in an invisible iframe floating over the innocuous link < 1370643068 663217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I tried that one with the fram. never managed to pull it off, sadly. < 1370643070 926140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's clickjacking < 1370643074 647926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably you can do both < 1370643075 104327 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1370643075 399287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I once found a nice instance of that but I don't think I can talk about it. < 1370643093 999087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you under an "NDA" < 1370643106 367223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can like... embed an iframe of the target site, size and scroll it so that only a tiny part of the target link is visible, and plop that within an innocuous link < 1370643125 771512 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: could you do that by picking a word on the target site and plopping it in another site? < 1370643131 690855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1370643136 2376 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you need a link that says "foo", find a link on the other site that says "foo", and iframe it < 1370643139 442289 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it look like your foo link < 1370643185 481625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Click here for more information about phishing attempts that get you to Close your Bank Account" < 1370643198 261585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad it only works if they click the last four words < 1370643202 806448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1370643207 599172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be the lamest phish ever really < 1370643245 350437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: did you see http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/yahh/ < 1370643252 128763 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1370643256 339574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: all phishes are lame. that's the point. < 1370643262 650858 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that? < 1370643270 963575 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :small screen discrimination!! < 1370643290 476110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's really great, try playing it for a few minutes < 1370643292 30782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it hides links under the asteroids < 1370643301 502807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww you cheated :P < 1370643320 790122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/PRISM_NSA < 1370643325 347867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually does something really clever with the links, not just making you click them < 1370643334 506744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do? < 1370643353 610641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the asteroids are links, and they're visible iff you've visited that site < 1370643355 723592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the guy who made it has a blog post explaining it? maybe kmc has a link < 1370643366 379288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sec < 1370643372 541915 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it's a way of seeing which sites you've visited in the past? < 1370643374 694161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2013/05/some-harmless-old-fashioned-fun-with-css.html < 1370643377 738276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1370643382 606699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you play long enough it pops up an alert telling you :3 < 1370643414 381672 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh. sneaky < 1370643452 973834 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all the other asteroids are black, and so they don't appear < 1370643457 609549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ones corresponding to sites you've visited show up < 1370643461 514189 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can adjust the color < 1370643465 779711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the "link" is a circle < 1370643469 35808 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrible < 1370643627 738180 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so according to this thing i've visited playboy but not wikipedia < 1370643633 13634 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that good or bad < 1370643665 584311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a disturbingly high number of mnoqy quotes in the learndb. < 1370643670 80478 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell would you visit playboy, there's so uch better porn out there < 1370643678 198022 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad imo, phantom < 1370643689 25185 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well as ais pointed out the articles are actually the only reason to read it these days < 1370643695 917619 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got mine right < 1370643697 517892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :playboy was an early open source mirror < 1370643762 376181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There you go, no
    • s. < 1370643778 947473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now my esolangs.org mirror of it is outdated! < 1370643839 750687 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1370643840 619301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is setInterval(go, 0); or function go() { ...; setTimeout(go, 0); } better? < 1370643877 148149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is more flexible < 1370643908 898770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean with 0 specifically. < 1370643912 6638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it doesn't matter. < 1370643928 8518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure < 1370644010 720808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there are selection events so I just loop. < 1370644224 529579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1370644226 22352 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1370644953 310978 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1370645297 34933 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370645430 205989 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1370645630 602064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought there are such events < 1370645632 131188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not sure < 1370645633 453282 :ThePoster56!~COS@62.233.41.198 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370645633 886071 :ThePoster56!~COS@62.233.41.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.us | ibooter.info < 1370645633 958166 :ThePoster56!~COS@62.233.41.198 PART :#esoteric < 1370645649 401100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nominate kmc to report that bot in #freenode < 1370645662 775106 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried earlier < 1370645666 155921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with elliott < 1370645670 634548 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't try very well, though. < 1370645685 951183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems it changed to a completely different ip range < 1370645686 793579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disnominate Phantom_Hoover from joining other IRC channels for any purpose ever :P < 1370645698 783516 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1370645698 886059 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370645704 707273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont ban me i was joking < 1370645714 519687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, opping me is fine < 1370645722 427534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :ThePoster*!*@* > 1370645722 450347 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370645732 892677 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ThePoster56 normally i avoid complaining about grammar but that was incomprehensible!! how do you expect successful advertising with such a poor presentation < 1370645733 370680 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1370645748 573795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the last number part changes < 1370645760 777531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan i'm.. not expecting them to actually read it... < 1370645771 23199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, how rude < 1370645801 172676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike. now lambdabot has to remember that FOREVER. < 1370645828 639328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!~COS@* > 1370645828 663039 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370645829 473604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1370645835 517273 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what a memory it shall be. < 1370645852 924001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um how about banning ThePoster* instead < 1370645858 626650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hostname was LOL before < 1370645863 589281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um i already did? < 1370645864 104825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, why didn't I ask you to do that originally... < 1370645869 584335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1370645878 27392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am quite blind, apparently :/ < 1370645898 203610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@62.233.41.* > 1370645898 313184 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370645898 659644 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have *.aq banned < 1370645922 294254 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anarctica? XD < 1370645927 399935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're jerks < 1370645939 256590 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing much to do in that freaking desert but make brainfuck derivatives < 1370645941 473278 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you almost pity them < 1370645962 44099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1370645962 57773 NAMES :#esoteric < 1370645964 729897 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mcmurdodryvalleys.aq/ < 1370645966 543693 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then they come back around with "hey!! i encoded [] as penguins!!!" and you remember why they're banned < 1370645977 815687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike just wants to make sure i can't tell you guys about our fun adventures when we go to antarctica < 1370646004 206876 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dry valleys are the second most lifeless place i can think of on earth < 1370646024 614401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is #1 hexham or finland < 1370646024 802112 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest living things there are nematodes, closely followed by elliott (HEIGHT JOKE) < 1370646050 494528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i got taller recently, preemptive rip height jokes < 1370646062 224177 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on he's taller than me <.< < 1370646075 343833 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 is the polar plateau because there like aren't even microorganisms < 1370646076 761335 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty wack < 1370646122 793803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are there microörganisms < 1370646137 806010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrn2¨ < 1370646149 318518 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/AntarcticaDomeCSnow.jpg wooooow < 1370646153 38476 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370646213 786762 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1370646231 804988 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: basically < 1370646243 617141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. i like it < 1370646257 451418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :barren lifeless flat hellscapes are the best < 1370646274 944644 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bike did you get bored making height jokes about me so it has to be about elliott now < 1370646278 34637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why i live in hexham < 1370646283 858385 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I'm complaining but < 1370646301 790398 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only comparable picture i can think of is http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Northern_Chukotka.JPG but i bet there are nematodes < 1370646312 897137 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: elliott is worse than you, so < 1370646321 511487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1370646335 671968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true, i am terrible < 1370646562 552949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you should make height jokes about me < 1370646577 543421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1370646582 376758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :make height jokes about kmc < 1370646584 504266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(drugz joke) < 1370646598 238421 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than me at what? :< < 1370646625 621511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in general < 1370646635 624058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so high < 1370646720 267719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if you were a commercial gps you would be so off right now < 1370646757 194788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1370646763 664891 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he's worse than me... < 1370647147 824490 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're from america, with its boundless reclaimed meat and corn syrup < 1370647178 764316 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has lived on the measly, shrivelled mosses that grow on the scree from the coal mines < 1370647231 285046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: it is actually a moss mine, unfortunately the north ran out of coal < 1370647253 837288 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why does this make him worse than me? or something < 1370647325 466583 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a source of protein < 1370647356 704001 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I..... I don't really get what you're imply but um okay < 1370647359 834144 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what you're implying < 1370647376 239638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well look at the difference between north and south koreans < 1370647388 260162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think this is still about height hth < 1370647396 46594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the north ones don't have a source of protein, and so are short and evil < 1370647396 187584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm shorter than elliott... < 1370647417 967827 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're actually not < 1370647434 905648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should like actually measure how tall i am or something < 1370647435 558220 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the measuring tapes in the north are shorter to save on tape costs < 1370647451 496768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that i am in this weird indeterminate space between "uh I was short fairly recently" and "I guess I grew a little?" < 1370647466 459221 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he said he used to be 5'2" or something and I don't think he's gotten shorter? < 1370647516 261245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 5 feet 2 inches -> m < 1370647522 674686 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said, a northern foot is less than a california foot < 1370647525 181194 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Conformance error \ Left side is: 48387/625000 (exactly 0.0774192) m^2 (area) \ Right side is: 1 m (length) \ Suggestion: divide left side by length \ or divide left side by area^(1/2) \ \ For help, type: units[length] \ or \ units[area] \ to list known units with < 1370647530 572021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 5 feet + 2 inches -> m < 1370647538 91803 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :3937/2500 (exactly 1.5748) < 1370647565 100714 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a unicode sonnet http://bpaste.net/show/olydVfuzIeXaGKTkVxlJ/ < 1370647569 286204 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not AS good but it's pretty good < 1370647577 94570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Apple stereotyped as being good at UI? < 1370647591 582279 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's iambic pentameter) < 1370647603 19002 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of brilliant UI decision is it to, if you accidentally press off the keyboard, erase everything that's been typed so far? < 1370647642 65355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure it's a brilliant UI decision at all? < 1370647650 753221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like it might not be brilliant, from the way you're talking. < 1370647654 681076 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, sonnets aren't in iambic pentameter aren't they < 1370647661 313176 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i'm thinking of the number of lines < 1370647677 153236 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Apple isn't actually good at UI < 1370647681 145581 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traditionally, English poets employ iambic pentameter when writing sonnets, < 1370647684 982955 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, they're not perfect at UI < 1370647688 120208 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: but I use meters < 1370647692 42744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't change, do they? :< < 1370647697 627572 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1370647699 615254 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're usually 14 verses long too! < 1370647720 140756 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really think they can afford a metre of solid iridium-platinum alloy? < 1370647724 954485 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody seems to agree on what rhyming scheme is most sonnet-y < 1370647728 425109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the kilogram :< < 1370647745 869930 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be the metre! < 1370647747 958303 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I guess if the kilogram's smaller, that means I've lost weight? <.< < 1370647752 608564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kilogram changing is the scariest thing on earth, imo < 1370647759 600657 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. was that before the whole speed of light meter thing? < 1370647772 389640 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1370647784 610863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: imo write a pushking-style sonnet hth < 1370647796 819994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is civilisation v any good < 1370647813 864867 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fine, the north can't afford a radioactive clock < 1370647827 378060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/g// < 1370647835 77889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1370647852 505 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's either shit or ok < 1370647854 808261 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget which < 1370647878 681780 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's really really addictive, there's good and bad things about it I guess but it's lots of fun? < 1370647884 809263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am eagerly awaiting the new expansion < 1370647900 365190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by awaiting I mean like, already preordered because firaxis owns me < 1370647901 466315 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it depends on whether you're judging it by the standard of grand strategy games or not < 1370647915 77174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ask because apparently it is free for a weekend on steam < 1370647917 607123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think civ is really a grand strategy game, there's EU for that :p < 1370647919 150066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I noticed solely by opening steam right now < 1370647924 806402 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg Fiora you're feeding the sickness < 1370647928 796852 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hello whats your steam < 1370647940 540370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :P.S. my only Civilisation experience is watching nooodl_ play the original one while sleep deprived < 1370647945 302410 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, can we play portal 2 yet you shit < 1370647957 420463 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, were you livestreaming < 1370647967 110597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: uh this computer can run portal < 1370647972 219920 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably can't run portal 2 very well < 1370647972 946314 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many things i didn't know about people! < 1370647986 354618 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what >_< < 1370647986 503549 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :free for a weekend as in you get it on weekend and then its free forever like with portal or does it stop being playable after the weekend < 1370647986 710702 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, have you tried turning all the graphics sliders down < 1370647986 935996 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was! < 1370647998 115707 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sickness < 1370648011 34636 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, the preordering one i guess < 1370648014 34099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: i haven't even tried installing it < 1370648019 234081 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, imo try < 1370648019 518374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the latter < 1370648020 762917 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I preorder a lot of games, um, is that bad < 1370648026 883914 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to try that damn thing < 1370648093 878987 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like... I've... probably kind of lost at least like 200 hours to civ 5 < 1370648094 778012 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, well with digital distribution it's kind of weird? and i've seen it criticised a lot for being used as a vehicle for scummy business practices < 1370648096 249147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even more to civ 4 < 1370648125 935459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I guess? I know a lot of companies (at least ones I tend to preorder from like NISA, Atlus, Aksys, etc) use preorders to judge how many copies they should print < 1370648132 237386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's discounts and stuff < 1370648223 750013 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i sick < 1370648224 763419 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a bit weird to project physical sales based on digital preorders, but that's just a nitpick < 1370648231 683635 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand if there're discounts though < 1370648252 883543 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, I guess I don't really do digital preorders for those... I don't know if they even offer them < 1370648271 663718 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of tend to preorder things that I know I'll end up getting anyways < 1370648340 239566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird to think about people who are still getting taller < 1370648398 895023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: im baby < 1370648460 844720 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I stopped getting taller about 9 years ago :/ < 1370648498 422067 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i stopped getting taller but i just don't know any more < 1370648510 347681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i stopped getting taller < 1370648528 431709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc grew glasses since the last time i saw him < 1370648531 387889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess he's still growing < 1370648551 955273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :growing / decaying < 1370648569 221597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :growing glasses, decaying eyes < 1370648574 944101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is a cyborg now < 1370648590 795767 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370648724 864872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, here's a situation that Rebol can't handle nicely, but I don't think Kernal and Qoppa can handle it nicely either, you tell me: < 1370648727 566266 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have glasses too... does that make me a cyborg? < 1370648732 38001 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1370648740 431747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1370648750 887893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa I can become a cyborg if I get glasses? < 1370648755 932348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1370648773 789077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to ruin my eyesight, staring at a computer all day for most of my life doesn't seem to have worked < 1370648774 170169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose you want an environment, that looks for set!s. Within this form that you're making, any symbols that are set! to are in their own scope, any that are not use the surrounding scope. < 1370648791 2424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it count if i get those fake glasses that don't actually do anything < 1370648808 872677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: give it time < 1370648820 16578 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can just get non-prescription ones, they're super cheap too < 1370648832 951280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, (context (print x) (set! x 0)) prints some kind of null value, no matter what the outside x is, but (context (print x)) prints the outside x < 1370648834 85551 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they'll probably look cute on you! bonus < 1370648843 529417 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make such a thing in Kernel or Racket? < 1370648845 726638 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get "google" glasses < 1370648849 519854 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1370648852 408905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, not Racket < 1370648855 294850 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel or Qoppa < 1370648856 535792 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000% cyborger < 1370648868 164386 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, mnoqy, no, jesus < 1370648876 463417 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the strongest glasses you can find < 1370648892 939213 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sure to fuck your eyesight up < 1370648904 712681 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeesh, if you have good vision don't waste it <_> < 1370648914 280314 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :being basically blind isn't fun < 1370648932 589729 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can not see things! < 1370648950 808748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just literal (set! ...) forms? also i already hate this < 1370648952 243176 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, too, can close my eyes and go to sleep and then see even better thhings because imd reaming < 1370648968 189297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've worn (other people's) strong glasses for laffs before < 1370648972 826379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uh < 1370648978 649308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty much like what i'd imagine bad eyesight looks like < 1370648988 815046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, fwiw I'm describing something you can't do in Rebol nicely < 1370648996 87375 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had opportunitys to wear "google" glasses but iv declined them < 1370649012 973456 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, this is in fact how bad eyesight works hth < 1370649047 500199 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what is that worth and to whom < 1370649067 356171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what kind glasses < 1370649067 467041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: haha, did that make you do /last ndit? < 1370649076 399848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which way do you want to ruin your eyes < 1370649076 610919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the uh... the glassy kind < 1370649078 582928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the google kind < 1370649091 157099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but do you want to be uh nearsighted or farsighted or what < 1370649091 931148 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^Rndit < 1370649093 903452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foresighted < 1370649147 505153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think either is very fun... < 1370649163 161734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe jellyfishsighted < 1370649171 233330 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh-ted < 1370649199 37920 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: whoa why < 1370649204 757816 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the Finnish word huoh. It’s kinda like sigh, but with more despair. There is no happy huoh. < 1370649219 951414 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: why did i have the opportunity or why did i decline < 1370649226 120015 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why'd you decline < 1370649228 717248 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also the former < 1370649260 153961 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone who has them & i didnt ask to wear them when he was passing them around for everyone to wear < 1370649298 67023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone who has them 2 < 1370649302 821554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we be in a club 2gether < 1370649335 670113 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o maybe < 1370649337 852364 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 real⸘ < 1370649366 785432 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you guys have cool friends ugh < 1370649380 564202 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't think i'd ever wear them seriously < 1370649389 70683 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how much of a douche would you look like. honestly < 1370649397 198534 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Irssi sucks in some regards, Weechat sucks in other regards. I don’t really find either considerably better than the other. < 1370649397 893434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: hey mnoqy is cool maybe he can be your friend < 1370649399 181042 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really wanna try them out once though < 1370649402 938909 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: have you seen how dorky they look < 1370649406 255327 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: superemely dorky < 1370649407 928145 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :') < 1370649416 977301 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also going < 1370649420 894145 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"glass, do this dumb thing for me" < 1370649422 427153 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in public < 1370649423 992175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what are you responding to < 1370649431 750056 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: shachaf’s CTCP commands < 1370649482 842080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was all like CTCP ION HEY WHAT'S UP WHAT IRC CLIENT SHOULD I USE < 1370649496 600293 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You should totally write an IRC client that doesn’t suck. Perhaps you could write it in @. < 1370649508 496967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Maybe you should use sorear's IRC client! < 1370649529 140399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard he wrote one. < 1370649550 490703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/sorear/soric/blob/master/MANUAL < 1370649556 40474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he's not even in here. < 1370649557 620492 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to bed hth < 1370649576 488897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an IRC client in @ would be so easy. you could use monoids < 1370649593 659332 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's @ again < 1370649597 710636 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: yes