s weirdly
< 1370642820 372361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i like 
s
< 1370642824 930021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I work at a linux promoting company, of course I'm a nerd.
< 1370642832 559523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should it use
< 1370642838 192691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is it red hat
< 1370642851 722115 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nope.
< 1370642852 195186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it does some weird thing turning it into 
s???
< 1370642873 395433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 
s are inside a 

< 1370642885 67958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's probably not actually necessary but i thought it was necessary before
< 1370642888 675517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a bug
< 1370642902 867132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can probably do something adaptive to generate the text as the user searches for it
< 1370642931 4876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yep, I thought of that but didn't want to bother.
< 1370642943 473970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it can look as if you're really finding passwords in the document.
< 1370642969 10819 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it supposed to just display the thing i'm searching for at the top of the page
< 1370642979 276137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1370642994 676621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: one idea i liked from Tangled Web is, you do something that invokes a scary confirmation dialog (e.g. downloading an exe, granting camera privileges) and then you pop up a browser window over the dialog, with a link right over the "confirm" button in the dialog
< 1370643008 478909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you extrapolate mouse movements to determine when the user is about to click the button
< 1370643012 991311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and close the window just before they do
< 1370643016 959084 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370643021 485755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :click the innocuous link, i mean
< 1370643024 656064 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's incredibly evil
< 1370643027 180054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah.
< 1370643032 341339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370643040 730781 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt there also like, a thing wher eyou get someone to click a link by putting a frame above it but making the click go through it?
< 1370643045 720991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1370643047 122971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370643066 474345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I know of the reverse, where you put the real target in an invisible iframe floating over the innocuous link
< 1370643068 663217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I tried that one with the fram. never managed to pull it off, sadly.
< 1370643070 926140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's clickjacking
< 1370643074 647926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably you can do both
< 1370643075 104327 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1370643075 399287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I once found a nice instance of that but I don't think I can talk about it.
< 1370643093 999087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you under an "NDA"
< 1370643106 367223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can like... embed an iframe of the target site, size and scroll it so that only a tiny part of the target link is visible, and plop that within an innocuous link
< 1370643125 771512 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: could you do that by picking a word on the target site and plopping it in another site?
< 1370643131 690855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so
< 1370643136 2376 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you need a link that says "foo", find a link on the other site that says "foo", and iframe it
< 1370643139 442289 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it look like your foo link
< 1370643185 481625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Click here for more information about phishing attempts that get you to Close your Bank Account"
< 1370643198 261585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad it only works if they click the last four words
< 1370643202 806448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also
< 1370643207 599172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be the lamest phish ever really
< 1370643245 350437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: did you see http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/yahh/
< 1370643252 128763 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks

< 1370643256 339574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: all phishes are lame. that's the point.
< 1370643262 650858 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that?
< 1370643270 963575 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :small screen discrimination!!
< 1370643290 476110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's really great, try playing it for a few minutes
< 1370643292 30782 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it hides links under the asteroids
< 1370643301 502807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww you cheated :P
< 1370643320 790122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/PRISM_NSA
< 1370643325 347867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually does something really clever with the links, not just making you click them
< 1370643334 506744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do?
< 1370643353 610641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the asteroids are links, and they're visible iff you've visited that site
< 1370643355 723592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the guy who made it has a blog post explaining it? maybe kmc has a link
< 1370643366 379288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sec
< 1370643372 541915 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it's a way of seeing which sites you've visited in the past?
< 1370643374 694161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2013/05/some-harmless-old-fashioned-fun-with-css.html
< 1370643377 738276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370643382 606699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you play long enough it pops up an alert telling you :3
< 1370643414 381672 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh.  sneaky
< 1370643452 973834 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all the other asteroids are black, and so they don't appear
< 1370643457 609549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ones corresponding to sites you've visited show up
< 1370643461 514189 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can adjust the color
< 1370643465 779711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the "link" is a circle
< 1370643469 35808 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrible
< 1370643627 738180 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so according to this thing i've visited playboy but not wikipedia
< 1370643633 13634 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that good or bad
< 1370643665 584311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a disturbingly high number of mnoqy quotes in the learndb.
< 1370643670 80478 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell would you visit playboy, there's so uch better porn out there
< 1370643678 198022 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad imo, phantom
< 1370643689 25185 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well as ais pointed out the articles are actually the only reason to read it these days
< 1370643695 917619 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got mine right
< 1370643697 517892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :playboy was an early open source mirror
< 1370643762 376181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There you go, no 
s.
< 1370643778 947473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now my esolangs.org mirror of it is outdated!
< 1370643839 750687 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370643840 619301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is setInterval(go, 0); or function go() { ...; setTimeout(go, 0); } better?
< 1370643877 148149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is more flexible
< 1370643908 898770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean with 0 specifically.
< 1370643912 6638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it doesn't matter.
< 1370643928 8518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure
< 1370644010 720808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there are selection events so I just loop.
< 1370644224 529579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet!
< 1370644226 22352 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370644953 310978 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370645297 34933 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370645430 205989 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370645630 602064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought there are such events
< 1370645632 131188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not sure
< 1370645633 453282 :ThePoster56!~COS@62.233.41.198 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370645633 886071 :ThePoster56!~COS@62.233.41.198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.us | ibooter.info  
< 1370645633 958166 :ThePoster56!~COS@62.233.41.198 PART :#esoteric
< 1370645649 401100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nominate kmc to report that bot in #freenode
< 1370645662 775106 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried earlier
< 1370645666 155921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with elliott 
< 1370645670 634548 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't try very well, though.
< 1370645685 951183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems it changed to a completely different ip range
< 1370645686 793579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disnominate Phantom_Hoover from joining other IRC channels for any purpose ever :P
< 1370645698 783516 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
> 1370645698 886059 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1370645704 707273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont ban me i was joking
< 1370645714 519687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, opping me is fine
< 1370645722 427534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :ThePoster*!*@*
> 1370645722 450347 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1370645732 892677 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ThePoster56 normally i avoid complaining about grammar but that was incomprehensible!! how do you expect successful advertising with such a poor presentation
< 1370645733 370680 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370645748 573795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the last number part changes
< 1370645760 777531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan i'm.. not expecting them to actually read it...
< 1370645771 23199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, how rude
< 1370645801 172676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike. now lambdabot has to remember that FOREVER.
< 1370645828 639328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!~COS@*
> 1370645828 663039 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1370645829 473604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1370645835 517273 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what a memory it shall be.
< 1370645852 924001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um how about banning ThePoster* instead
< 1370645858 626650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hostname was LOL before
< 1370645863 589281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um i already did?
< 1370645864 104825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, why didn't I ask you to do that originally...
< 1370645869 584335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1370645878 27392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am quite blind, apparently :/
< 1370645898 203610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@62.233.41.*
> 1370645898 313184 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1370645898 659644 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have *.aq banned
< 1370645922 294254 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anarctica? XD
< 1370645927 399935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're jerks
< 1370645939 256590 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing much to do in that freaking desert but make brainfuck derivatives
< 1370645941 473278 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you almost pity them
< 1370645962 44099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
> 1370645962 57773 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1370645964 729897 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mcmurdodryvalleys.aq/
< 1370645966 543693 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then they come back around with "hey!! i encoded [] as penguins!!!" and you remember why they're banned
< 1370645977 815687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike just wants to make sure i can't tell you guys about our fun adventures when we go to antarctica
< 1370646004 206876 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dry valleys are the second most lifeless place i can think of on earth
< 1370646024 614401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is #1 hexham or finland
< 1370646024 802112 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest living things there are nematodes, closely followed by elliott (HEIGHT JOKE)
< 1370646050 494528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i got taller recently, preemptive rip height jokes
< 1370646062 224177 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on he's taller than me <.<
< 1370646075 343833 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 is the polar plateau because there like aren't even microorganisms
< 1370646076 761335 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty wack
< 1370646122 793803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are there microörganisms
< 1370646137 806010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrn2¨
< 1370646149 318518 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/AntarcticaDomeCSnow.jpg  wooooow
< 1370646153 38476 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370646213 786762 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1370646231 804988 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: basically
< 1370646243 617141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. i like it
< 1370646257 451418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :barren lifeless flat hellscapes are the best
< 1370646274 944644 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bike did you get bored making height jokes about me so it has to be about elliott now
< 1370646278 34637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why i live in hexham
< 1370646283 858385 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I'm complaining but
< 1370646301 790398 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only comparable picture i can think of is http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Northern_Chukotka.JPG but i bet there are nematodes
< 1370646312 897137 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: elliott is worse than you, so
< 1370646321 511487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1370646335 671968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true, i am terrible
< 1370646562 552949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you should make height jokes about me
< 1370646577 543421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no
< 1370646582 376758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :make height jokes about kmc
< 1370646584 504266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(drugz joke)
< 1370646598 238421 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than me at what? :<
< 1370646625 621511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in general
< 1370646635 624058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so high
< 1370646720 267719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if you were a commercial gps you would be so off right now
< 1370646757 194788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370646763 664891 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he's worse than me...
< 1370647147 824490 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're from america, with its boundless reclaimed meat and corn syrup
< 1370647178 764316 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has lived on the measly, shrivelled mosses that grow on the scree from the coal mines
< 1370647231 285046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: it is actually a moss mine, unfortunately the north ran out of coal
< 1370647253 837288 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why does this make him worse than me? or something
< 1370647325 466583 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a source of protein
< 1370647356 704001 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.....   I don't really get what you're imply but um okay
< 1370647359 834144 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what you're implying
< 1370647376 239638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well look at the difference between north and south koreans
< 1370647388 260162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think this is still about height hth
< 1370647396 46594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the north ones don't have a source of protein, and so are short and evil
< 1370647396 187584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm shorter than elliott...
< 1370647417 967827 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're actually not
< 1370647434 905648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should like actually measure how tall i am or something
< 1370647435 558220 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the measuring tapes in the north are shorter to save on tape costs
< 1370647451 496768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that i am in this weird indeterminate space between "uh I was short fairly recently" and "I guess I grew a little?"
< 1370647466 459221 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he said he used to be 5'2" or something and I don't think he's gotten shorter?
< 1370647516 261245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 5 feet 2 inches -> m
< 1370647522 674686 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i said, a northern foot is less than a california foot
< 1370647525 181194 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Conformance error \    Left side is: 48387/625000 (exactly 0.0774192) m^2 (area) \   Right side is: 1 m (length) \      Suggestion: divide left side by length \               or divide left side by area^(1/2) \  \  For help, type: units[length] \                    or \                  units[area] \                    to list known units with 
< 1370647530 572021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 5 feet + 2 inches -> m
< 1370647538 91803 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :3937/2500 (exactly 1.5748)
< 1370647565 100714 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a unicode sonnet http://bpaste.net/show/olydVfuzIeXaGKTkVxlJ/
< 1370647569 286204 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not AS good but it's pretty good
< 1370647577 94570 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Apple stereotyped as being good at UI?
< 1370647591 582279 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's iambic pentameter)
< 1370647603 19002 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of brilliant UI decision is it to, if you accidentally press off the keyboard, erase everything that's been typed so far?
< 1370647642 65355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure it's a brilliant UI decision at all?
< 1370647650 753221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like it might not be brilliant, from the way you're talking.
< 1370647654 681076 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, sonnets aren't in iambic pentameter aren't they
< 1370647661 313176 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i'm thinking of the number of lines
< 1370647677 153236 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Apple isn't actually good at UI
< 1370647681 145581 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traditionally, English poets employ iambic pentameter when writing sonnets,
< 1370647684 982955 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, they're not perfect at UI
< 1370647688 120208 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: but I use meters
< 1370647692 42744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't change, do they? :<
< 1370647697 627572 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370647699 615254 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're usually 14 verses long too!
< 1370647720 140756 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you really think they can afford a metre of solid iridium-platinum alloy?
< 1370647724 954485 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody seems to agree on what rhyming scheme is most sonnet-y
< 1370647728 425109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the kilogram :<
< 1370647745 869930 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be the metre!
< 1370647747 958303 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I guess if the kilogram's smaller, that means I've lost weight? <.<
< 1370647752 608564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kilogram changing is the scariest thing on earth, imo
< 1370647759 600657 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  was that before the whole speed of light meter thing?
< 1370647772 389640 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1370647784 610863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: imo write a pushking-style sonnet hth
< 1370647796 819994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is civilisation v any good
< 1370647813 864867 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fine, the north can't afford a radioactive clock
< 1370647827 378060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/g//
< 1370647835 77889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1370647852 505 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's either shit or ok
< 1370647854 808261 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget which
< 1370647878 681780 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's really really addictive, there's good and bad things about it I guess but it's lots of fun?
< 1370647884 809263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am eagerly awaiting the new expansion
< 1370647900 365190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by awaiting I mean like, already preordered because firaxis owns me
< 1370647901 466315 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it depends on whether you're judging it by the standard of grand strategy games or not
< 1370647915 77174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ask because apparently it is free for a weekend on steam
< 1370647917 607123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think civ is really a grand strategy game, there's EU for that :p
< 1370647919 150066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I noticed solely by opening steam right now
< 1370647924 806402 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg Fiora you're feeding the sickness
< 1370647928 796852 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hello whats your steam
< 1370647940 540370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :P.S. my only Civilisation experience is watching nooodl_ play the original one while sleep deprived
< 1370647945 302410 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, can we play portal 2 yet you shit
< 1370647957 420463 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, were you livestreaming
< 1370647967 110597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: uh this computer can run portal
< 1370647972 219920 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably can't run portal 2 very well
< 1370647972 946314 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many things i didn't know about people!
< 1370647986 354618 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what >_<
< 1370647986 503549 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :free for a weekend as in you get it on weekend and then its free forever like with portal or does it stop being playable after the weekend
< 1370647986 710702 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, have you tried turning all the graphics sliders down
< 1370647986 935996 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was!
< 1370647998 115707 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sickness
< 1370648011 34636 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, the preordering one i guess
< 1370648014 34099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: i haven't even tried installing it
< 1370648019 234081 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, imo try
< 1370648019 518374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the latter
< 1370648020 762917 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I preorder a lot of games, um, is that bad
< 1370648026 883914 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to try that damn thing
< 1370648093 878987 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like... I've... probably kind of lost at least like 200 hours to civ 5
< 1370648094 778012 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, well with digital distribution it's kind of weird? and i've seen it criticised a lot for being used as a vehicle for scummy business practices
< 1370648096 249147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even more to civ 4
< 1370648125 935459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I guess?  I know a lot of companies (at least ones I tend to preorder from like NISA, Atlus, Aksys, etc) use preorders to judge how many copies they should print
< 1370648132 237386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's discounts and stuff
< 1370648223 750013 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i sick
< 1370648224 763419 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a bit weird to project physical sales based on digital preorders, but that's just a nitpick
< 1370648231 683635 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand if there're discounts though
< 1370648252 883543 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, I guess I don't really do digital preorders for those... I don't know if they even offer them
< 1370648271 663718 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of tend to preorder things that I know I'll end up getting anyways
< 1370648340 239566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird to think about people who are still getting taller
< 1370648398 895023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: im baby
< 1370648460 844720 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I stopped getting taller about 9 years ago :/
< 1370648498 422067 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i stopped getting taller but i just don't know any more
< 1370648510 347681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i stopped getting taller
< 1370648528 431709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc grew glasses since the last time i saw him
< 1370648531 387889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess he's still growing
< 1370648551 955273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :growing / decaying
< 1370648569 221597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :growing glasses, decaying eyes
< 1370648574 944101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is a cyborg now
< 1370648590 795767 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370648724 864872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, here's a situation that Rebol can't handle nicely, but I don't think Kernal and Qoppa can handle it nicely either, you tell me:
< 1370648727 566266 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have glasses too... does that make me a cyborg?
< 1370648732 38001 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370648740 431747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1370648750 887893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa I can become a cyborg if I get glasses?
< 1370648755 932348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1370648773 789077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to ruin my eyesight, staring at a computer all day for most of my life doesn't seem to have worked
< 1370648774 170169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose you want an environment, that looks for set!s. Within this form that you're making, any symbols that are set! to are in their own scope, any that are not use the surrounding scope.
< 1370648791 2424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it count if i get those fake glasses that don't actually do anything
< 1370648808 872677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: give it time
< 1370648820 16578 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can just get non-prescription ones, they're super cheap too
< 1370648832 951280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, (context (print x) (set! x 0)) prints some kind of null value, no matter what the outside x is, but (context (print x)) prints the outside x
< 1370648834 85551 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they'll probably look cute on you!  bonus
< 1370648843 529417 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make such a thing in Kernel or Racket?
< 1370648845 726638 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get "google" glasses
< 1370648849 519854 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo
< 1370648852 408905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, not Racket
< 1370648855 294850 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel or Qoppa
< 1370648856 535792 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000% cyborger
< 1370648868 164386 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, mnoqy, no, jesus
< 1370648876 463417 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the strongest glasses you can find
< 1370648892 939213 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sure to fuck your eyesight up
< 1370648904 712681 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeesh, if you have good vision don't waste it <_>  
< 1370648914 280314 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :being basically blind isn't fun 
< 1370648932 589729 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can not see things!
< 1370648950 808748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just literal (set! ...) forms? also i already hate this
< 1370648952 243176 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, too, can close my eyes and go to sleep and then see even better thhings because imd reaming
< 1370648968 189297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've worn (other people's) strong glasses for laffs before
< 1370648972 826379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uh
< 1370648978 649308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty much like what i'd imagine bad eyesight looks like
< 1370648988 815046 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, fwiw I'm describing something you can't do in Rebol nicely
< 1370648996 87375 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had opportunitys to wear "google" glasses but iv declined them
< 1370649012 973456 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, this is in fact how bad eyesight works hth
< 1370649047 500199 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what is that worth and to whom
< 1370649067 356171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what kind glasses
< 1370649067 467041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: haha, did that make you do /last ndit?
< 1370649076 399848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which way do you want to ruin your eyes
< 1370649076 610919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the uh... the glassy kind
< 1370649078 582928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the google kind
< 1370649091 157099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but do you want to be uh nearsighted or farsighted or what
< 1370649091 931148 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^Rndit
< 1370649093 903452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :foresighted
< 1370649147 505153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think either is very fun...
< 1370649163 161734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe jellyfishsighted
< 1370649171 233330 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh-ted
< 1370649199 37920 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: whoa why
< 1370649204 757816 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the Finnish word huoh. It’s kinda like sigh, but with more despair. There is no happy huoh.
< 1370649219 951414 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: why did i have the opportunity or why did i decline
< 1370649226 120015 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why'd you decline
< 1370649228 717248 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also the former
< 1370649260 153961 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone who has them & i didnt ask to wear them when he was passing them around for everyone to wear
< 1370649298 67023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone who has them 2
< 1370649302 821554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we be in a club 2gether
< 1370649335 670113 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o maybe
< 1370649337 852364 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 real⸘
< 1370649366 785432 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you guys have cool friends ugh
< 1370649380 564202 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i don't think i'd ever wear them seriously
< 1370649389 70683 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how much of a douche would you look like. honestly
< 1370649397 198534 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Irssi sucks in some regards, Weechat sucks in other regards. I don’t really find either considerably better than the other.
< 1370649397 893434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: hey mnoqy is cool maybe he can be your friend
< 1370649399 181042 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really wanna try them out once though
< 1370649402 938909 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: have you seen how dorky they look
< 1370649406 255327 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: superemely dorky
< 1370649407 928145 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :')
< 1370649416 977301 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also going
< 1370649420 894145 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"glass, do this dumb thing for me"
< 1370649422 427153 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in public
< 1370649423 992175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what are you responding to
< 1370649431 750056 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: shachaf’s CTCP commands
< 1370649482 842080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was all like CTCP ION HEY WHAT'S UP WHAT IRC CLIENT SHOULD I USE
< 1370649496 600293 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You should totally write an IRC client that doesn’t suck. Perhaps you could write it in @.
< 1370649508 496967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Maybe you should use sorear's IRC client!
< 1370649529 140399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard he wrote one.
< 1370649550 490703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/sorear/soric/blob/master/MANUAL
< 1370649556 40474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he's not even in here.
< 1370649557 620492 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to bed ｈｔｈ
< 1370649576 488897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an IRC client in @ would be so easy. you could use monoids
< 1370649593 659332 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's @ again
< 1370649597 710636 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_: yes
< 1370649614 629947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you a prolog interpreter
< 1370649619 35341 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes
< 1370649622 129760 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl_, elliott's perfect not-operating-system
< 1370649626 435604 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wouldn't prolog say "no"?
< 1370649633 639739 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right hmm
< 1370649637 149186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would Prolog say "no"?
< 1370649641 242705 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote vapour
< 1370649643 949250 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because like, it always says "No."
< 1370649645 144237 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :451)  sllide: @ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour
< 1370649651 892395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, it usually says "yes".
< 1370649653 947495 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it gives a list of results.  right?
< 1370649661 290958 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am I remembering that class wrong ._.
< 1370649664 719677 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM vapoure. FTFY, HTH.
< 1370649678 756418 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says yes sometimes!
< 1370649687 209498 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it the one that was gonna have a new name once and then elliott'd replace @ by that in the entire logs
< 1370649713 350029 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its new name should be the full contents of the logs.
< 1370649756 509488 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree
< 1370649766 75859 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit i was going to bed
< 1370649769 10633 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i loved learning prolog, but this may be because i did so when i was in that infamously terrible int 2 computing class)
< 1370649779 368354 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh i was going to shit bed
< 1370649796 167469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl
< 1370649798 70931 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooodl is right
< 1370649800 254154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bed
< 1370649802 564906 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1370649803 581349 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_hoover: Is it so easy?
< 1370649818 301912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Aren't you tired of the monoids/easy thing?
< 1370649825 993821 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i didn't learn it from the class, that's for sure
< 1370649861 770276 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i recall the greatest part of the prolog we did in class was getting the shitty mac application we were using to run
< 1370649925 807124 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1370649932 739545 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was the int 2 computing class all about non-maskable interrupts?
< 1370649998 418619 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Aren’t you tired of the “aren’t you tired of the monoids/easy thing” thing?
< 1370650029 856270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does prolog ever actually say yes
< 1370650032 552285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Fiora is right
< 1370650035 813853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Aren't you tired of the “unicode quotes” thing?
< 1370650038 134395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe if you query a fact with no free variables?
< 1370650049 721193 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: “very”
< 1370650082 700029 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, no
< 1370650090 622929 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370650099 364494 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was about learning javascript using ie 5 for mac
< 1370650107 949787 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds pleasant.
< 1370650111 569024 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i had this class in 2010)
< 1370650143 930275 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't remember much, I just remember a lot of people in the class made "prolog says no" jokes constantly
< 1370650151 925774 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that soric design resembles my IRC client design
< 1370650156 277199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I guess mine is more detailed
< 1370650164 145987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably soric has more than the 0 SLOC I have
< 1370650182 252393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you both stopped because writing an irc client is crazy?
< 1370650185 99095 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, was this before little britain and hence the inevitable 'computer says no' jokes
< 1370650187 237784 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sounds like your code is commented exceptionally well.
< 1370650192 742147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :little britain is bad
< 1370650196 973637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'computer says no' jokes are bad
< 1370650199 584601 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i can never remember how old all you old fogeys are)
< 1370650201 308157 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no u
< 1370650210 577855 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :little britain?
< 1370650218 910248 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora: sudo watch it
< 1370650229 611956 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno ion
< 1370650231 393473 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i trust shachaf
< 1370650250 318998 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION [sudo] password for fiora:

< 1370650269 652668 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aroif42
< 1370650274 27238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that sudo exploit recently
< 1370650277 135691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember it
< 1370650284 23188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can it be carried out over irc
< 1370650288 534484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION [sudo] password for fiora:

< 1370650288 873964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: 😹
< 1370650300 603305 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, try again.
< 1370650302 238168 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora: You should turn sudo insults on.
< 1370650316 378368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your password a hug
< 1370650320 292137 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked the Ubuntu guys to do that by default and they said no. :-(
< 1370650321 669323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Fiora
< 1370650322 145130 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug
< 1370650326 327310 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... insults? XD
< 1370650334 876091 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dumb feature
< 1370650342 931318 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo insults you when you get the password wrong
< 1370650344 891942 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"very funny"
< 1370650349 367555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot has the same feature
< 1370650351 323653 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src oqwdjoijdasd
< 1370650351 430314 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Are you on drugs?
< 1370650353 974083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot does the same thing with the same insults
< 1370650357 172227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote jsafhlsahfasld
< 1370650357 390237 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. :(
< 1370650359 726673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse
< 1370650366 106569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm is sudo 1.7.4 vulnerable
< 1370650368 639846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it is and it's what i have
< 1370650392 832867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : does prolog ever actually say yes <-- maybe if you have a query with no variables?
< 1370650399 12515 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um... I'm not sure, but hugs are nice
< 1370650402 399229 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly just use su. clearly just use root. clearly.......
< 1370650413 137776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: did you know kmc is moving to san francisco
< 1370650414 158315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh maybe if you query a fact with no free variables? <-- hey stop that
< 1370650418 271172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you should come too
< 1370650427 190531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hugged kmc the other day and it was good
< 1370650437 741204 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww.
< 1370650507 112630 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho fuck hugs
< 1370650526 910433 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck hugs???????
< 1370650532 238699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my hugging opinion
< 1370650539 359883 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not a hugs guy, but why would you say that
< 1370650552 177574 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre a conspiracy
< 1370650566 430501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I vaguely recall the biggest problem with my IRC client design was timestamps in declarations from the client
< 1370650570 359271 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume Phantom__Hoover prefers GHCi
< 1370650575 452943 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo
< 1370650582 140945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular you could obligate the server to send a message in the past
< 1370650593 321547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and would likely do so given any kind of network lag
< 1370650602 462944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :closed timelike IRC curves?
< 1370650657 947217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, the fact that my design allows for time travel probably should have made me more interested in implementing it rather than less
< 1370650698 987584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you just have to use it to implement a PSPACE-capable computer XD
< 1370650707 340908 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://edisontechcenter.org/tesladebunked.html it makes me inordinately pleased that someone is standing up for edison
< 1370650758 286162 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370650790 424542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love debating the merits of 19th century nerds (no i don't)
< 1370650828 177424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike
< 1370650833 812235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love Bike (no i don't) <-- another sick burn
< 1370650834 349123 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, it's a microcosm of bigger problems in the public understanding of science
< 1370650840 552719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you coming to our hug party in san francisco next month
< 1370650847 462525 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also tesla worship really fucking annoys me
< 1370650850 825773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i burn bikes (no i don't)
< 1370650865 841754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate Bike (no i don't)
< 1370650875 467769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that i don't actually hate Bike
< 1370650890 62611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike
< 1370650890 261599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: this doesn't really seem to stand up for edison so much as it puts down tesla
< 1370650893 867321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx for explaining the joke tdh
< 1370650899 884417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the first pro-edison statement seems to be "he killed an elephant but they all did back then"
< 1370650904 837221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that doesn't help"?
< 1370650908 847756 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf.
< 1370650933 184199 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, i didn't say it was good
< 1370650936 284112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: throw off the chains of negation
< 1370651008 65126 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I misread pleased as pissed
< 1370651020 777505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see sel.html in firefox
< 1370651079 542785 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sounds like a thing that could happen, possibly
< 1370651161 994376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This definition means roughly that in order to obtain isinhab A, we start from A, we add paths between all pairs of elements of A, then paths between all pairs of the elements we just added, and so on transfinitely until it stabilizes, and then what we get is exactly isinhab A."
< 1370651171 814789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: homotopy type theory still "wack"
< 1370651387 533734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no hth
< 1370651393 372212 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like homotopy WACK theory
< 1370651432 681836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HoWT
< 1370651471 995732 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how't
< 1370651864 141903 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db430c9.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd
< 1370652007 284920 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42bbd.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370652144 723440 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :All at once, he felt a blinding jolt of pain shoot through his right arm. At first, he thought he pulled a muscle, but looking down, he quickly realized that the situation was much worse: "My wrist was completely snapped backwards," he says, "with my palm facing up in the air. I turned pale white."
< 1370652146 276386 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :While Portnoy continued to play, his drum tech immediately snapped the injured wrist back into place and shoved the drummer's arm into a bucket of ice. "I finished the song Rick Allen-style, just playing one handed," he says.
< 1370652148 193374 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.musicradar.com/news/drums/mike-portnoy-my-best-and-worst-gigs-ever-575982
< 1370652203 651977 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that's a "best" gig
< 1370652401 570031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*CRINGE*
< 1370652853 140082 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/img/stereoimages/movies/transit_label_large.mov   I'd say the sun is cool but         well it's actually pretty hot
< 1370652863 181326 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a transit of the moon in front of the sun)
< 1370652873 653332 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really cool how like, the cosmic rays show up on the video too
< 1370652920 765182 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are my tax dollars going to if not teaching you how to put things on youtube, nasa!
< 1370653008 34992 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lovejoy-hi1a_srem_dec12_14.gif   there's something really amazing about like, being able to see gravity in action like this, watching a comet accelerate into the sun's corona
< 1370653014 614794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whoa that shit's wack
< 1370653022 60947 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no
< 1370653026 80002 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's dope
< 1370653035 419178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really dope whoa
< 1370653048 541973 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no little comet you're going the wrong way!!
< 1370653091 952144 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazingly, it survived
< 1370653099 596122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O:
< 1370653116 908384 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reached ~140k km from the sun's surface and spent an hour travelling through the corona
< 1370653124 600120 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and went up to 0.2% the speed of light
< 1370653139 431453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 140 km or 140 Mm?
< 1370653168 336810 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :140Mm
< 1370653177 980027 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. we have SI prefixes for a reason you know :P
< 1370653204 673086 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... I didn't know people like actually used megameter
< 1370653217 929166 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do if they're nerds (gestures at self)
< 1370653254 475807 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's the only sungrazer seen yet that didn't fragment or disappear
< 1370653257 980358 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice!
< 1370653263 956306 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lovejoy~
< 1370653614 181175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :140 km from the sun's surface sounds pretty hot
< 1370653619 233279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a surviving as a comet p.o.v.
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< 1370653652 949497 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does 140 Mm tbh
< 1370653735 439201 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the corona is millions of degrees isn't it?
< 1370653787 821453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 140 Mm -> light second
< 1370653795 896722 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :10000000/21413747 (approx. 0.4669897332774129)
< 1370653810 246890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yes
< 1370653818 188125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what i know about the sun i can tell you that it's approximately really goddamn hot (celsius)
< 1370653847 602637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the corona is many times hotter than the surface hth
< 1370653861 153976 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1370653861 263923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess tesla is like bacon
< 1370653866 589416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think you need to set up your client to strip out "hth"
< 1370653933 824341 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I upload my massive but questionably legal MIDI collection to prgmr for processing, or just play with a (still questionably, but less so) legal thing of MIDIs that anyone can easily download from the AW website?
< 1370653943 254489 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like, they're both things nerds seem to strangely like a lot and talk about?
< 1370653950 387750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, as your attorney I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top
< 1370653962 409284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, they're both pretty cool but the internet makes me want to hate them
< 1370654024 876328 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using just nginx with lua plugin to build a website: Good idea or bad idea
< 1370654087 743394 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea. just do it
< 1370654344 301063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike...... sgeo isn't about the doing
< 1370654592 871703 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the corona is millions of degrees isn't it?
< 1370654615 619454 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :temperature doesn't mean much when they're that sparse though
< 1370654648 866385 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the atmosphere is... really hot at the altitude the iss orbits
< 1370654722 139280 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's true
< 1370654731 224628 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the photon flux must be crazy
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< 1370654784 667630 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing it's q. high
< 1370654792 374263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws things into google

< 1370654795 521191 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(((1 AU) / (radius of the sun + (140 000 km)))^2) * ((1300 watts) per (square meter)) = 41 677 462.4 watts per (square meter)
< 1370654876 83465 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of watts!
< 1370654898 911802 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must've been a big comet (or maybe it was really cold)
< 1370654899 676812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :watts going on
< 1370654922 788084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how much do you cost as an attorney
< 1370654935 687981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think wikipedia says they revised the original guesstimate as to its size
< 1370654946 290113 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the original size they thought wouldn't have survived the trip <.<
< 1370655135 999074 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just killed xflux
< 1370655141 257070 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This shade of blue is blinding
< 1370655153 398392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill! kill! kill!
< 1370655571 801579 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1370655578 99923 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have any extrasolar comets been observed
< 1370655688 703567 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not
< 1370655720 450703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_diagram
< 1370655731 72229 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370655794 705573 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds really hard
< 1370655801 356632 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, comets are really tiny
< 1370655813 346034 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i mean comets from outside the solar system
< 1370655868 112768 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have something coming in on a hyperbolic trajectory it probably wasn't previously in orbit around the sun
< 1370655908 709694 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1370655940 371454 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh
< 1370655942 439911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect it would be hard to distinguish something coming from the oort cloud and something coming from entirely outside
< 1370655957 344472 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... that sounds really hard, especially since we hardly know anything about the oort cloud I think
< 1370655969 47617 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also oerjan that is amazing. /penguin diagrams/
< 1370655971 378825 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the story behind them
< 1370656075 201093 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we know there aren't many major gravitational influences, surely?
< 1370656116 69093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is other things in the oort cloud...
< 1370656121 58399 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apropos of not very much, here is a video of asteroid discovery from 1980: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUSP23cmAE
< 1370656144 76608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose the main planets can be accounted for
< 1370656160 735025 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes but probably not much massive enough to put incoming comets on a hyperbolic trajectory?
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< 1370656184 219020 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a pretty big perturbation to do that so far from the periapsis
< 1370656205 114887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...if you say so :P
< 1370656219 404273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a collision
< 1370656222 899314 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there /have/ been hyperbolic comets observed, but they were probably put onto them by jupiter)
< 1370656277 912306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: it turns out my system is not very good at rendering 4K video
< 1370656300 682776 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can your connection handle streaming it?
< 1370656331 335834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sort of"
< 1370656361 746659 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo.  so
< 1370656363 805263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No comets with an eccentricity significantly greater than one have been observed,[47] so there are no confirmed observations of comets that are likely to have originated outside the Solar System. "
< 1370656371 274781 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we could tell, I think, that means?
< 1370656403 263419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we aren't a popular comet tourist spot :(
< 1370656404 188374 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A rough calculation shows that there might be four hyperbolic comets per century,[50] within Jupiter's orbit, give or take one and perhaps two orders of magnitude."  
< 1370656407 11894 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you just calculate the orbit
< 1370656410 639434 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty huge error margin o_O
< 1370656447 327241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun.", etc.
< 1370656453 446991 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without a citation, too
< 1370656497 873469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i was thinking wrongly, about parabolic orbits instead
< 1370656524 573577 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parabolic is to hyperbolic as circular is to elliptic, i think
< 1370656559 328795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's more that it's precisely on the boundary of the other two, and hard to distinguish from them
< 1370656577 908403 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370656643 971862 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :googling to get the exact wording of that quote lead me to the beautifully 90s http://www.mindgazer.org/dontpanic/
< 1370656694 781836 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proloque
< 1370656761 442272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's french
< 1370656778 161527 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have g in french elliott
< 1370656904 697815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not since the revolution
< 1370656968 851966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used up all the g's to make guillotines
< 1370657246 988824 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
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< 1370657608 353270 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh gosh http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OVERWEIGHT_SUBMARINE?SITE=NYMID&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
< 1370657637 498618 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha i heard about that
< 1370657671 628814 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$14 million, damn
< 1370657709 517372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that link doesn't work for me :(
< 1370657794 749921 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) -- A new, Spanish-designed submarine has a weighty problem: The vessel is more than 70 tons too heavy, and officials fear if it goes out to sea, it will not be able to surface.
< 1370657798 724230 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a former Spanish official says the problem can be traced to a miscalculation - someone apparently put a decimal point in the wrong place.
< 1370657801 729353 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was a fatal mistake," said Rafael Bardaji, who until recently was director of the Office of Strategic Assessment at Spain's Defense Ministry.
< 1370657908 190946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an error of some magnitude
< 1370657917 186962 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370658004 666346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the dual of an error an errand
< 1370658008 402303 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the submarine must have eaten too much junk food
< 1370658012 295763 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what would submarine junk food be?
< 1370658046 527802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uranium
< 1370658090 893852 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that makes sense
< 1370658099 993688 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellow cake?
< 1370658106 75691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^__^
< 1370658120 964073 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was terrible, I'm sorry -_-)
< 1370658127 293734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that "until recently was director"
< 1370658148 554537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1370658157 834839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i open a firefox bug
< 1370658234 936901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it more of a "core" bug you're the mozilla expert here
< 1370658258 538828 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mozillexpert
< 1370658273 739064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that was nowhere near bad enough to apologize for imo. try harder next time.
< 1370658274 624066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't knowchaf
< 1370658284 271488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will kmc be obligated to switch browsers when he works at mozilla alt. does he use firefox already
< 1370658289 686060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use chrome now
< 1370658295 476063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: when there's a servo browser...............maybe
< 1370658299 897484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'll be working on the /new/ browser engine so until... yeah
< 1370658307 611044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I got the offer paperwork today :D :D
< 1370658321 977256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you have decided yet
< 1370658338 567125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a distinct position of "working on the new browser in rust" vs. "working on rust"
< 1370658340 64524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somewhat doubt spanish submarines are nuclear, anyway
< 1370658345 214391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there overlap
< 1370658434 452069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc used to know how to program but then he got rusty
< 1370658441 189068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :l - o - l
< 1370658444 947137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there is a distinct position but kmc would be the first person to have it or something like that
< 1370658463 578862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically
< 1370658470 797892 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's diesel electric.
< 1370658471 931167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not first but one of the first
< 1370658472 302757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc browser developer #1
< 1370658480 534037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the servo development to date has been by the rust people
< 1370658486 845879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like you'd want your browser developers to be able to work on the language too
< 1370658489 836211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the symbioticness
< 1370658496 725767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe mozilla is open enough that they can just go ahead and do that anyway though
< 1370658498 928782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370658502 488899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both on github
< 1370658504 495484 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....huh? Is Firefox being rewritten in Rust?
< 1370658522 491429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo
< 1370658536 404216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, Mozilla is writing a new browser engine in Rust
< 1370658536 514724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should get a #1 hand sign like the people in the onion cartoon
< 1370658537 557476 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.. that is what's happening.
< 1370658539 125792 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, but Mozilla is doing some browser development in Rust...
< 1370658548 651615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently the rendering engine
< 1370658550 950421 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Principally as an experiment.
< 1370658551 493824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/selling-america-short,32564/
< 1370658559 340237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript and parsing and network and lots of other stuff are still C libraries
< 1370658564 732253 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1370658571 90656 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could turn into a full Rust rewrite at some point.
< 1370658572 162677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if your question is "will the new browser eventually be renamed to Firefox" then I don't know of any plans to do so
< 1370658583 495110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are pretty serious about it becoming a real product though
< 1370658593 798795 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATM it's more to drive development of Rust I think.
< 1370658595 777911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one step at a time
< 1370658597 164867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are now a bunch of Samsung employees working on Rust and Servo
< 1370658598 459604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rename it to phoenix
< 1370658599 973707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then firebird
< 1370658603 9790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Samsung thinks it will be a better mobile browser
< 1370658604 593231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can start thinking about calling it firefox
< 1370658609 517036 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a non-trivial program in your new language helps a lot.
< 1370658616 916547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should write your browser in @ instead
< 1370658623 390952 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet it'll be more secure
< 1370658632 142788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the two projects are symbiotic, you could just as well say that Servo is the resaon Rust exists
< 1370658640 464153 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is true.
< 1370658647 814228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nothing is more secure than programs written in @
< 1370658660 944231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe for denial of service attacks...................
< 1370658679 949566 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got to give Rust props. I have no idea if it'll be *good*, but it is at least *interesting*.
< 1370658684 798695 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a language where the empty program is the least secure program possible in the language.
< 1370658685 655197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370658701 23411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i nominate you Sgeo
< 1370658709 991811 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a real shortage of interesting serious languages.
< 1370658714 458100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370658722 254029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in the "C and C++ replacement" category
< 1370658725 135552 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1370658736 484265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to write programs in D/Rust now
< 1370658745 674190 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's telling that C is still the best language for that niche.
< 1370658747 220654 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By far.
< 1370658751 94725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a "C replacement", in that it's a ploy aimed at people who still use C for applications development for no reason
< 1370658808 624511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a serious replacement for OS kernels or latency-critical stuff
< 1370658822 918486 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :browser kernels
< 1370658841 324100 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS kernel, in Go? Hell no.
< 1370658843 302975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like Java but with even more limitations, and just enough tinge of the weird to make it acceptable to Real Programmers who look down on Java
< 1370658862 688093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how exciting
< 1370658864 734289 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a profoundly mundane language.
< 1370658871 993783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go more like went
< 1370658878 962462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1370658889 520071 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go has built-in generics but no way to make your own, right?
< 1370658892 360205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370658896 620781 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, nice
< 1370658944 525287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when are you moving here
< 1370658947 380156 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon now tracks which videos you've watched!
< 1370658957 590197 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, displays it nicely
< 1370658962 20816 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it has to have been tracking
< 1370658965 667600 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watched... on what...
< 1370658973 298470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm going to give them a start date of July 1 i think
< 1370658975 852462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, soon
< 1370658994 472463 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, on Amazon
< 1370659002 898771 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon has videos?
< 1370659021 629887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep they sell streaming video
< 1370659023 90729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll move to sf too "bandwagoning"
< 1370659027 137639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or give you lots of things for free, with Prime
< 1370659036 88105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do it
< 1370659073 100969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sf cost $everything/mo
< 1370659078 70751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/woe-is-euro,28491/
< 1370659079 314085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that
< 1370659082 504603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: more than that hth
< 1370659098 566406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but i don't have $everything
< 1370659117 104916 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can you steal that much?
< 1370659125 393851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i love the kelly comics
< 1370659138 574324 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish kelly wasn't so accurate
< 1370659176 48588 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon lets you remove things from your history though, right? I remember it had a thing
< 1370659182 809648 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could make it ignore something for the purpose of suggesting stuff
< 1370659195 775290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry amazon, i need you to forget all this horse porn. thanks
< 1370659231 467990 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was looking at this product for the parody reviews, I don't actually want lots of random numbers ;_;"
< 1370659242 776596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you could move to epa
< 1370659250 396716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which i should move out of epa
< 1370659291 954466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i hear EPA has violence, violence, violence, violence, and thinly-veiled racism concealed behind questions about violence [source: quora]
< 1370659302 763816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[source: I am a violent racist in EPA]
< 1370659344 52442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: did you know RAND claims copyright on the random numbers in that book
< 1370659364 181049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://hcoop.net/~ntk/random/
< 1370659406 251397 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute
< 1370659439 921225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm curious who would need this
< 1370659462 329303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who need digits... and fast
< 1370659468 951137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and furious
< 1370659500 359047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd kind of like to see a court case about copyrighted random numbers, that would be interesting
< 1370659662 433965 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess nowadays it's less necessary
< 1370659666 138217 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with PRNGs
< 1370659686 553486 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i can't imagine anyone actually taking it to court, i'm just wondering how it would work out
< 1370659950 828385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they had PRNGs back then, they just weren't very good
< 1370659955 46400 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370659980 447805 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to imagine some confused RAND employee getting frustrated with Knuth's shitty prng
< 1370659982 136265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers were too slow to run a good one
< 1370660283 703384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=880926
< 1370660322 419019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370661027 863314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, their bugzilla allows live html attachements that show up in bug880926.bugzilla.mozilla.org
< 1370661032 231049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eg)
< 1370661052 148412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not great for security
< 1370661054 610566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite the 'meta bug'
< 1370661171 812350 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha.
< 1370661316 428481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⫻
< 1370661506 110363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whychaf
< 1370661517 890013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whywhat
< 1370661539 201363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnite
< 1370661822 31612 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370661825 770508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hippabot
< 1370661841 992855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :woow
< 1370661849 101898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hipaabot
< 1370661859 141446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :κappabot
< 1370661869 430313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crappabot
< 1370661879 336082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: kappabot is wearing your cloak
< 1370661885 853850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how do I get a cloak
< 1370661894 339594 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kidnap an oper
< 1370661894 993897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :καππα⊥
< 1370661903 981952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ask tt
< 1370661908 895319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really
< 1370661913 46673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's how i got mine
< 1370661915 383461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is tt the secret pope of freenode
< 1370661916 366204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1370661918 638046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful
< 1370661926 254553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was just handin' them out
< 1370661934 517019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can just join #freenode
< 1370661937 288621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and say hi i want a cloak
< 1370661939 23505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you get one
< 1370661939 455324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do that too
< 1370661940 505115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty boring
< 1370661941 744724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly
< 1370661952 229945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fashionable in the slightest
< 1370661956 447752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: boooooooring
< 1370661958 91926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can get a fancy "works at mozilla" cloak
< 1370661960 940174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bꙮring
< 1370661962 219534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm
< 1370661962 440794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aristocat
< 1370661969 109191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1370661971 782780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a typo
< 1370661975 263907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i have a compose key for ꙮ
< 1370661980 635445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that
< 1370661982 265063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot see it
< 1370661984 421225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it be Multi_key o o o o o o o o
< 1370661996 742805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i have Multi_key o o bound to °
< 1370662012 9222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i just use ISO 14755 Mode
< 1370662016 300732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that?
< 1370662019 295779 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The laser beam activated pest trap system is then activated, with all three of them being zapped, leaving just tufts of hair on all of them. That beam also travels into outer space and hits a satellite, destroying it.
< 1370662025 281129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use ctrl-shift-u a 6 6 e 
< 1370662025 390088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :press ctrl and shift at the same time in urxvt
< 1370662040 629419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then what? Type the codepoint?
< 1370662043 382220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370662048 260266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whilst keeping them held down
< 1370662051 370710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I used to do that.
< 1370662075 32356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also type other things conveniently by pressing ctrl-shift and then letting go and then pressing a key.
< 1370662080 727538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example ←
< 1370662089 78036 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nice.
< 1370662090 353861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, KEYCAP PICTURE INSERT MODE
< 1370662099 331715 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been wondering what that's for
< 1370662115 422867 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎈ doesn't look like ctrl but hey w/e
< 1370662117 215775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You can type other things conveniently by coming to San Francisco!
< 1370662128 840920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you want me to come to san francisco
< 1370662141 350942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2388	HELM SYMBOL = control
< 1370662159 156732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: because how else can i say that all the cool people come to san francisco hth
< 1370662179 927994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think this is shachafs way of telling you you are cool
< 1370662184 296336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370662189 162376 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't cool, so stays out of SF?

< 1370662195 862547 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no, you're not cool, Bike"
< 1370662196 675014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey
< 1370662199 374113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you remember how old PC software used to come with a plastic sheet that fit around your keys and was labeled with the various functions for that software and color coded according to whether you should use them with shift, ctrl, etc?
< 1370662199 523533 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone
< 1370662203 898765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo come to sf
< 1370662210 798997 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellkott Bike kmc shachaf 
< 1370662213 180979 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow no
< 1370662221 862309 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m missing out
< 1370662223 495286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I just made that up just now
< 1370662224 450867 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: seducing another?
< 1370662226 585922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 100% sure
< 1370662229 313268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i sort of remember that but i don't think i ever actually that
< 1370662230 265982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes?
< 1370662232 687787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ?
< 1370662234 385624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I like my apartment here...
< 1370662237 977731 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the bay area
< 1370662245 411316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: kmc is moving here!
< 1370662258 893064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need an iptables ruleset because mine got deleted. just the basic rules everyone has.
< 1370662274 337119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any oops.
< 1370662275 747386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1370662282 896085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have any cool iptables rules handy, sorry
< 1370662295 430462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe once you move to sf you'll have some......................
< 1370662313 61752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: But think of all the great friends you could make here!
< 1370662324 675170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a big friend shop in downtown SF where you can buy friends.
< 1370662334 34122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't want to buy friends... that doesn't sound right
< 1370662334 799537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds incredibly convenient
< 1370662342 343925 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i don't have money. way to discriminate.
< 1370662349 1796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be your friend for free Bike
< 1370662351 519218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this code speak for drugz
< 1370662354 110595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Hey, I'm not the one who brought up friend shops.
< 1370662356 708221 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice!!
< 1370662359 823307 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except are you a communist
< 1370662363 324345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only a little
< 1370662367 852814 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you buy "friends" from the "friend shop"
< 1370662378 781287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iykwim
< 1370662393 335646 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ol' friends hashy and methylenedioxymethamphetamine (he's swedish)
< 1370662445 519459 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: halp plox
< 1370662483 727112 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's not much good if bahaskell don't meet
< 1370662486 850277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know nothing about iptables
< 1370662497 405387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: bahaskell will meet
< 1370662502 783287 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure silicon valley friends sound very good either
< 1370662512 40718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn
< 1370662517 410377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx Fiora :'(
< 1370662531 317701 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... ... sorry...
< 1370662534 405869 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ididn't mean that as... bleh
< 1370662536 351066 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not san fernando valley friends
< 1370662546 425570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: It's OK, we didn't take it that way.
< 1370662548 927045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :san francisco >>> silicon valley
< 1370662549 710544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi
< 1370662560 165390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew arrows
< 1370662576 74472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋙
< 1370662579 722986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Unicode have a codepoint for VERY MUCH GREATER THAN
< 1370662580 787461 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :san francisco → silicon valley fyi
< 1370662582 665610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370662583 838798 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes mad with power

< 1370662586 627015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the one i gave
< 1370662588 519464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's the one you efb
< 1370662594 813198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't render in my terminal THANKS A LOT, SCREEN
< 1370662600 610022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1370662605 402842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's BMP.
< 1370662608 342015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+22D9
< 1370662626 105251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way tmux is broken too. :-( With certain emoji codepoints.
< 1370662627 97321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still
< 1370662641 51482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it actually tmux, or are you just lacking those in your locale
< 1370662676 247541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hmm
< 1370662686 300060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370662690 898513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works with ssh shachaf.net
< 1370662691 281051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (i was just kidding, btw)
< 1370662693 626659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not with mosh shachaf.net
< 1370662696 572098 :rahman0804!~rahman080@114.79.28.203 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370662699 16962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's probably the locale
< 1370662717 42825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The San Francisco and San Jose Railroad
< 1370662726 201596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The locale how?
< 1370662737 37903 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh...
< 1370662737 584447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG etc. are en_US.UTF-8 both ways.
< 1370662738 362406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those emoji aren't in the server-side locale, maybe?
< 1370662742 421011 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at catching jokes
< 1370662751 517889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we ought to merge one of the hardcoded wcwidth() implementations...
< 1370662751 775146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Oh. Sorry.
< 1370662755 190875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then this won't happen
< 1370662767 688572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANKS A LOT MOSH
< 1370662770 822575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thosh
< 1370662783 698059 :rahman0804!~rahman080@114.79.28.203 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370662789 718055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♡osh
< 1370662797 447410 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O
< 1370662798 322078 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:39 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with rahman0804
< 1370662798 430446 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:39  hy
< 1370662798 502425 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:39 -!- rahman0804 [~rahman080@114.79.28.203] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
< 1370662810 468452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O
< 1370662833 182109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O_○
< 1370662842 649725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ_ꙮ
< 1370662852 74012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hy
< 1370662866 963277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_Ꙭ
< 1370662875 363926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool someone put a better reference image on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocular_O
< 1370662885 491833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ꙩ_Ꙭ
< 1370662897 847357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you already said that didn't you
< 1370662901 289958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1370662909 529014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc should start a blog about multiocular o
< 1370662916 181143 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the other day a stranger messaged me for a "normal chat" here it was weird
< 1370662942 93856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :today someone walked up to me and asked if i was a "php coder"................
< 1370662946 768512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1370662949 145389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you?
< 1370662949 823789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they asked about sql and perl
< 1370662958 45768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i decided not to be a php coder today
< 1370662965 662866 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k
< 1370662970 230308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i have said yes
< 1370662972 846940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :php codez
< 1370662973 540406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :opened the door to adventure
< 1370662980 689018 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I sometimes wish someone (not completely skeezy) would do that for once
< 1370662982 778726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never happens though
< 1370662993 856576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: walked up to you in person?
< 1370662996 717502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1370663000 717518 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can get you in touch with this person
< 1370663004 335503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they weren't skeezy, weirdly
< 1370663021 690775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i skeezy
< 1370663031 152626 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually they left because they detected that i had no idea what was going on though
< 1370663048 521315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 'the bay area'
< 1370663057 204253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where was this? and did they have some reason to think you were a PHP coder
< 1370663064 531868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :palo alto
< 1370663073 409422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a quiet young person within 50 miles of san francisco, he must be a PHP coder"
< 1370663075 42888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally gonna heck kmc's aim by asking him if he's a php coder if i ever see him irl
< 1370663075 193155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was using a computer at the time
< 1370663087 204107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i have been paid to write PHP code
< 1370663089 429245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is my eternal shame
< 1370663090 987502 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks logs, finds that the person apparently PMed at least two other peopl in the channel

< 1370663096 68122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: blood money
< 1370663108 681973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been trying to avoid general language bashing because it sucks so much, and I think my strategy for this is to just bash PHP
< 1370663113 583119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because PHP really deserves it
< 1370663115 656833 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a normal person might be shamed by paying into violent diamond mines. but coders are special people
< 1370663127 519630 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooders
< 1370663141 370718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how do you have logs of who someone else has PMed???
< 1370663142 746161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you NSA
< 1370663144 323536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: #haskell{,-blah} language circlejerks make me want to defend java to the death
< 1370663145 368107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you know what language makes for some really good bashing
< 1370663148 190515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to tell me if you're NSA
< 1370663149 708503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not php because uh, it's php
< 1370663159 400478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint
< 1370663167 228997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok no hint
< 1370663167 819396 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a couple "why are you PMing me" messages in the channel, also no i don't i'm under a reverse national security letter hth
< 1370663173 945072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i used to defend Jafa in #haskell but usually in a kind of backhanded "it's great for lots of dumb people who aren't as smart as us" way which I eventually got sick of too
< 1370663191 31106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Java
< 1370663195 73534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jaffa
< 1370663198 325452 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've gotten used to defending languages i don't like
< 1370663198 985032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just make a no-language-bashing rule in #haskell
< 1370663203 465635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortuantely I don't enforce it
< 1370663206 934994 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because language circlejerks are just that fucking boring
< 1370663210 580561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: which language is it
< 1370663212 222046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people always say it's just in good fun, so who cares, right?
< 1370663215 999395 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it just me or are language arguments/circlejerking/that kind of thing basically like the nerd equivalent of sports team arguments or something?
< 1370663216 71301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: bash hth
< 1370663218 552042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think i usually just tell people to shut up
< 1370663225 34725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: looooool
< 1370663228 95397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the most direct way to express the problem
< 1370663228 421894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, could be
< 1370663240 744258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you're on a team, and you have to ~defend~ that team 'cause it's your team
< 1370663246 606577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks because I think in depth comparisons of languages are really interesting
< 1370663246 678031 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370663248 678016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your team is totes better than the other team
< 1370663260 727134 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gosh did you see those new APIs it got in the draft this year
< 1370663262 893577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the arguments usually avoid anything interesting or complex
< 1370663265 201282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean I get to wear @ merchandise
< 1370663265 273138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: heh, yup
< 1370663265 780056 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something I really don't know sports
< 1370663269 702111 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in #lisp there's lots of people going on about how elegant it is or whatever and i'm like can't you write some code instead of having a watered-down spiritual experience all over my irc
< 1370663272 344932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if so I am so down with this analogy
< 1370663276 851550 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: @ is an exception; @ is life
< 1370663276 923013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hahaha yes
< 1370663282 996038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "if you think Lisp is great you should try acid"
< 1370663286 11496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually
< 1370663289 664530 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: new go-to reply, thx
< 1370663293 122029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was given this advice about Haskell more or less
< 1370663300 52077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean I should try acid
< 1370663306 608719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you should try acid eventually, yes
< 1370663308 613092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone should
< 1370663310 236799 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll act like a hardcore christian
< 1370663311 846107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe wait until you're not 17
< 1370663319 680060 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's more elegant than lisp? the book of enoch
< 1370663323 557589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when kmc moves to san francisco he can be my dealer
< 1370663333 45394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am i getting into...........
< 1370663346 937630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ezoteric drugz
< 1370663355 61105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is you were already into those??????)
< 1370663402 412273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so i should try acid in august, check
< 1370663406 940236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :marked my calendar
< 1370663413 719816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why does being 17 matter for acid
< 1370663423 321014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's illegal when you're under 18 hth
< 1370663428 853978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1370663430 636525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because kmc will face a longer sentence if i'm a minor
< 1370663441 815367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crime of suggesting drugz
< 1370663450 164671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :insidious
< 1370663532 477215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is there a name for the thing where you extract information a character at a time in a way that you couldn't do for an entire string, etc.?
< 1370663544 128865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like some timing attacks and so on but it's more general than that.
< 1370663554 926348 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1370663612 996085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial something oracle
< 1370663613 652106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1370663645 786529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1370663701 251293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial something oracle (technical term)
< 1370663900 920772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet @tqbf knows
< 1370664244 640286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: they're having a nose competition in #perl6
< 1370664252 959708 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds cool
< 1370664262 41293 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats it like
< 1370664271 582759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:02  :•)
< 1370664277 14209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:02  :˒)
< 1370664277 162474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:03  :◃)
< 1370664282 666568 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1370664285 676019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more
< 1370664290 442996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:01 <+yoleaux> U+2FD0 KANGXI RADICAL NOSE [So] (⿐)
< 1370664294 299850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's getting p. crazy
< 1370664312 166159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe larry wall actually talks on irc
< 1370664323 384903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kangxi radical wall
< 1370664327 91579 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else do you do on irc
< 1370664337 604279 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well, idle, I suppose.
< 1370664340 971400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ban people
< 1370664342 909973 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erotic roleplay
< 1370664355 547490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :compute fibonacci numbers
< 1370664378 981373 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erotic roleplay would involve talking wouldnt it
< 1370664386 373929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on your fetish
< 1370664386 446291 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......in a certain sense of talking
< 1370664394 722269 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "silence fetish"
< 1370664413 684131 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetish whereby you get off by watching other people engage in erotic roleplay?
< 1370664577 722688 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370664758 272437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "ꙮ"
< 1370664758 409900 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character)
< 1370664759 359075 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "\42606"
< 1370664771 802442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thappabot
< 1370664791 114879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you live in san francisco "you're just that cool"
< 1370664811 303547 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i live in fremont, ca
< 1370664814 9110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370665462 413678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric/2012-12-16.txt:05:48:56:  maybe i should get a tattoo of multiocular o
< 1370665528 60888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear
< 1370665662 572344 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370667467 86060 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A YouTube video just reminded me of a game I used to suck at
< 1370667502 200277 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was ... some kind of CA fight thing
< 1370667505 414537 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available on Linux
< 1370667546 656722 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liquid War :D
< 1370667793 953608 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/software/liquidwar6/
< 1370667801 991790 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guy in the video has a ... voice
< 1370667841 338012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I too have a voice. It is my curse, and my blessing.
< 1370667867 900342 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg chanserv voice #esoteric Bike
< 1370667874 463414 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This guy's voice is notable
< 1370667922 441489 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like it could be a cool game for a tablet
< 1370667990 406257 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: get on this. thx
< 1370668049 231476 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Bike
> 1370668049 283783 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1370668059 265601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hth", as they say
< 1370668066 158747 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knew I could count on you.
< 1370668068 823851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yo it's 6 am - do i sleep
< 1370668079 215712 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... how long have you been awake
< 1370668083 617925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1370668086 147494 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since like
< 1370668089 427814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey do i get voice
< 1370668090 382917 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"last week"
< 1370668092 784309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, 2 pm? but i didn't sleep that much
< 1370668102 936044 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION counts on fingers

< 1370668107 800564 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh this is hard. play it safe and sleep imo
< 1370668112 472353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to counton my fingers
< 1370668115 755941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they always let me down :'(
< 1370668132 403291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ton/t on/
< 1370668163 661361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike should i sleep
< 1370668175 47508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you tireD?
< 1370668189 119190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of #haskell? kinda
< 1370668219 671114 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all tired of #haskell.
< 1370668247 178448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: when 's my `olist
< 1370668285 26665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: now that haswell is out should i acquire a haswell computer
< 1370668295 623691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not longer interested in the things i was interested in it for once upon a time
< 1370668300 305626 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, non-existent as of this point in time, unless I have caching issues.
< 1370668305 200051 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for making me check >:(
< 1370668339 321597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: If it had updated, I would've `olisted myself.
< 1370668343 127327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm asking *when*.
< 1370668379 620515 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In all likelihood, it exists sometime between 1 second from now and a billion years from now.
< 1370668389 706813 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1370668412 493005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tht?
< 1370668417 695763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a billion years from now the average surface temperature on earth will be 47° hth
< 1370668425 199261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to wikipedia
< 1370668427 106631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtk
< 1370668435 548073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn gtk
< 1370668437 254698 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "gtk".
< 1370668437 364861 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "gtk".
< 1370668449 27768 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um... I don't really know, I guess it kinda depends on what you currently have and stuff...
< 1370668489 529067 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :liquidwar6 segfaults :(
< 1370668504 790272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :liquidwar5 4ever
< 1370668772 231047 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370668772 787786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'good to know'
< 1370669093 195080 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The AI in liquidwar5 is ... not good
< 1370669126 335204 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :improve it
< 1370669318 406036 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found the AI difficulty slider
< 1370669324 90063 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kicked it up a notch
< 1370669335 767276 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still wasn't very good, but held a defensive position for a long time
< 1370669356 840202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wow this is like one of those movies
< 1370669385 503617 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guy's voice?
< 1370669398 241926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the way you improved the ai
< 1370669592 761110 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kicked it up another notch. I am being ground into paste.
< 1370669644 551542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1370669769 985941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: help how do i prepare for job interview
< 1370669800 344199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm
< 1370669806 987437 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first you should have an appointment for a job interview, and transportation
< 1370669835 932816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is p. important
< 1370669857 869641 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I finally didn't lose against this.... but didn't fully win
< 1370669864 627772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: at my most recent interviews I got surprisingly few algorithms / puzzles / etc questions, and lots of questions about my background and stuff I've done in the past
< 1370669865 888122 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had enemy mostly surrounded, but it held out
< 1370669868 996806 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get some sleep and try to not panic too much?
< 1370669873 580114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I feel like having rehersed answers for the latter helped me
< 1370669885 554515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, deciding ahead of time what I would say to "Why did your past two jobs last less than a year each?" was important
< 1370669895 810951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how much this is true for you
< 1370669903 167739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some companies do lots of puzzle questions even for experienced people
< 1370669907 104334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think that's falling out of favor
< 1370669923 870184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess just make sure you can talk about everything on your resume, and in some technical detail
< 1370669969 50194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the company wants you to have, like, memorized http://bigocheatsheet.com/ then I think you shouldn't work there if you can help it ;P
< 1370670029 790085 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370670077 571332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370670108 590197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no shachaf missed my advice
< 1370670121 64831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370670144 787964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, irssi ran into a very odd bug.
< 1370670149 791121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was tmux but I guess not.
< 1370670164 812148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry, I managed to logread it.
< 1370670172 49944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370670244 970687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway it's just some phone interviews at this point.
< 1370670249 951069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mizled"
< 1370670251 384030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370670267 134997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luckchaf
< 1370670980 686883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot how tiring being tired is
< 1370671006 240164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :being not tired is also tiring
< 1370671040 822241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact just about everything is tiring except sleeping
< 1370671227 642546 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleeping makes me tired sometimes too
< 1370671244 561455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true
< 1370671248 60631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm p. tired when i wake up
< 1370671259 285548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of delayed action untiringness
< 1370672000 288424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why god invented coffee
< 1370672007 314301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or diet mt dew as the case may be
< 1370672115 410537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or those big cups of questionable liquid you were drinking
< 1370672123 867773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that wasn't caffeinated
< 1370672223 242927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new shachaf repellent is called caffeinated drums
< 1370672280 248020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with your old shachaf repellent
< 1370672304 865133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :existence failure
< 1370672344 525757 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as we all know failing to exist is a poor way to repel shachaf
< 1370672382 741166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1370672385 718402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1370672455 125660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which questionable liquid was i drinking when
< 1370672482 70176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to drink 'questionable liquid' i.e. bitter water with food coloring that comes out of a glass labware bottle labeled "POISON DO NOT DRINK"
< 1370672492 872481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. careful amounts thereof
< 1370672514 572404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a color coding system for indicating which synthetic hallucinogen it was
< 1370672517 908837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :safety first
< 1370672531 913023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i just meant that big cup from that store we went to twice
< 1370672541 517777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7-Eleven?
< 1370672545 115854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370672551 35532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes we had to go twice because i drank the first one
< 1370672565 673243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 7-Eleven refill is a wonderful thing
< 1370672591 154474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it was some form of sugar water
< 1370672595 201973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things are, really
< 1370672607 59123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aspartame water
< 1370672621 807378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there was a little sugar because I usually mix in some amount of non-diet drinx, e.g. lemonade
< 1370672629 72689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370672631 721756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good drinx
< 1370672658 810383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is wild
< 1370672775 879832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh was it soda
< 1370672780 380244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370672783 805228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370672785 858738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diet Coke with some lemonade, I think
< 1370672787 450116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't drink soda
< 1370672789 829972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Coke Zero w/ same
< 1370672794 913325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not
< 1370672806 644690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have never managed to drink anything carbonated
< 1370672809 219704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just spit it out
< 1370672810 762747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370672813 165202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. unpleasant
< 1370672814 825783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fair I suppose
< 1370672821 348451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's fair about it
< 1370672826 362817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soda is the drums of the drink world
< 1370672831 740102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1370672840 530632 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean
< 1370672849 137962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: carbonated drum hth
< 1370672853 501992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome sacje
< 1370672857 97281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i meant carbonated
< 1370672858 429220 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sacje: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1370672858 797068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1370672864 940429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh
< 1370672867 697078 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks kmc
< 1370672869 297844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i understand what you meant thx
< 1370672873 18424 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel welcome now
< 1370672879 791371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like both carbonation and drums im the anti shachaf
< 1370672884 853449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1370672886 579596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome sacje
< 1370672889 822359 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07sac02je: W02elcome 13to the i07nternation04al hub for esote11ric p04rogr04amming l07anguage d05e03sign and deploymen07t! For mor08e in04forma12tion, ch10eck11 13out our wiki: http://esolangs10.org/wi14ki/Main08_04Page. (03For the other kind of 09esoterica, tr11y #esote12r05ic on i04rc14.dal.net.09)14
< 1370672906 362313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't know how you can stand to use plain old `welcome when we have so many fantastic welcoming options
< 1370672908 926321 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only feel so welcome guys
< 1370672914 233664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME sacje
< 1370672914 581481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370672916 896836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no limit
< 1370672917 10260 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :SACJE: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.)
< 1370672919 69673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an elegant, minimalist `welcome
< 1370672923 426510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the first thing to learn
< 1370672940 976222 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora still has to attend therapy after all that welcoming
< 1370672958 809875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we ever re-welcome Fiora after she came back
< 1370672965 955948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Fiora
< 1370672966 119589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about let's not
< 1370672968 859666 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​10Fiora: W03elc08ome 12to the i03nternati04ona12l hub for e11soteri08c pr14ogramming language design an09d 08deployment! F08or mo02re informa14ti08on, check14 07out our07 wiki: http://esolangs.11org11/wi04ki/Main_05P11age. (Fo12r the other kind 07of eso03teric04a, t09ry #esoteric on 10irc.dal.net.)
< 1370672968 932046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370672970 213709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late
< 1370673450 734475 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370676499 935909 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1370680757 951192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh boy
< 1370680781 562904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun with that particular individual
< 1370680785 691417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370680791 950551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp
< 1370680823 510435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they won't be as bad here as in #haskell.
< 1370680901 237882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my psychic knowledge tells me exactly who you're talking to
< 1370680909 424019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also tells you that you shouldn't bother
< 1370681090 454337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1370681091 540243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychic
< 1370681139 117550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's the powers of not living in sf
< 1370681152 216052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no if i move will i lose my psychic powers
< 1370681161 830986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've already lost them
< 1370681169 558892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well
< 1370681175 477132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the powers can sense that you're going to move to sf and leave before you do
< 1370681610 335732 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370681668 581819 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1370681836 335642 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370682985 547821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hth
< 1370685001 322383 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370685319 63194 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
< 1370688409 62154 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1370688732 427419 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1370690152 598223 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thank you for the welcome x3
< 1370690706 267559 :nooodl_!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370690810 180029 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370690860 935172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You're... welcome.
< 1370691050 974118 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee hee
< 1370691357 650569 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers her terrible lack of sleep and goes to play more class of heroes instead

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< 1370691866 634559 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42bbd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs ching
< 1370691880 464385 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4062
< 1370691914 727453 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42bbd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog i-ching
< 1370691953 998055 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25547
< 1370691980 563969 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42bbd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1370692078 113755 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42bbd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastelog
< 1370692079 543416 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \  \ pasterandom() { \     if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then \         echo "No." \         exit \     fi \     for i in $(seq "$1"); do \         file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \         echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \     done | paste \ } \  \ if [ "$1" ]; then \     if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \
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< 1370694390 264558 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db42bbd.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370694539 547144 :hagb4rd2!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1370697393 151276 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370698399 349197 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370698486 328588 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
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< 1370700772 65243 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1370703633 189221 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1370705074 771028 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370705204 532409 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370705372 181614 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1370705848 174098 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370705899 972496 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1370706044 896493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370706601 198806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370706909 499162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : do you remember how old PC software used to come with a plastic sheet that fit around your keys and was labeled with the various functions for that software and color coded according to whether you should use them with shift, ctrl, etc? <-- the washing machine came with such sheets in several different languages. no ctrl/shift keys, though.
< 1370707532 969890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1370707552 116059 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, when was that? (For PC software, not washing machines)
< 1370707577 95937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i suppose there were several modifier keys, like prewash. but they weren't marked on the other ones.
< 1370707610 617179 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370707623 677993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall such a pc sheet
< 1370707631 810422 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never heard of that
< 1370707657 209423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was for a word processing program
< 1370707685 16563 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS or Windows era?
< 1370707699 848070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think windows, not sure.
< 1370707827 292976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I think we had one for a pre-Windows word processing program
< 1370707836 803793 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh *man* those things were terrible.
< 1370707846 282996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me the timeline is a little confused because I had got a lot of computer junk to play with that was obsolete even in 1995
< 1370707856 155727 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise...
< 1370707862 328551 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned to code on an Apple II.
< 1370707872 756183 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 2 when they stopped making 'em.
< 1370707971 337766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you turned out all right anyhow?
< 1370708008 57017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a little early programming on Apple ][ as well
< 1370708030 419308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would say I learned to program in QBASIC and TI-83+ BASIC
< 1370708036 389999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bit later Visual Basic 4.0
< 1370708112 900978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall visiting someone on a vacation, who had something which was probably an Apple II.  and also managing to make a flag picture on it.  that may have been my first physical contact with a computer.
< 1370708134 997592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite its limitations the TI-83+ was a great platform for learning to code
< 1370708232 358703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i am not _quite_ sure whether that was before or after my dad brought home a typewriter/modem device and let me play with basic on a Nord-100 server.
< 1370708399 168818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The board was laid out and finished and tested when they realized that the CPU was far faster than the Nord-10/S. The result was that all the marketing material for the new NORD-10/M was discarded, the board was rechristened the Nord-100, and extensively advertised as the successor of the Nord-10 line."
< 1370708847 737527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Bike: how do you have logs of who someone else has PMed??? <-- he just uses the Prism interface in lens, duh
< 1370709957 960705 :flier!~g2g2go2@185.5.157.181 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370710048 421184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwelcome flier 
< 1370710052 4221 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​8flier: 9Welcome 2to 13the 6international 4hub 7for 8esoteric 9programming 2language 13design 6and 4deployment! 7For 8more 9information, 2check 13out 6our 4wiki: 7http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 8(For 9the 2other 13kind 6of 4esoterica, 7try 8#esoteric 9on 2irc.dal.net.)
< 1370710184 678434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : as we all know failing to exist is a poor way to repel shachaf <-- i dunno, has canada avoided shachaf up until now?
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< 1370710786 240190 :flier!~g2g2go2@185.5.157.181 PART :#esoteric
< 1370711447 149005 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1370711481 868896 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
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< 1370712110 519683 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think I learned with... I think it was Borland C with my dad?  and my TI-82
< 1370712116 141918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :later TI-83 and stuff
< 1370712154 23498 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the few things I remember about being, like, 9, is being a total dumb and leaving my TI-82 right under the halogen lamp on my desk, only to find later that I melted off the corner of it (but it still worked)
< 1370712180 735068 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....someone in the Active Worlds FB group, of all places, posted me this: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/38547658.jpg
< 1370712301 456963 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: ಠ_ಠ
< 1370712301 887923 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   ¯|¯⌠
< 1370712301 996242 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   /´\|
< 1370712375 326971 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1370712391 700087 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate
< 1370712863 89912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no f{izzie,ungot}!
< 1370712899 909895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi has added new features?
< 1370714118 332569 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370714260 128273 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/Q9VwEMfk the face of modern hacking
< 1370714438 314227 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370714512 467113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the stallman pictures include the toe eating stuff
< 1370714597 720603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn Jack...
< 1370714624 832988 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wh...
< 1370714632 297748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's actually pretty simple
< 1370714660 255793 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :&-style Perl function calls. 2012.
< 1370714671 234351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw some suggestion for a GUI config tool,  but that's not actually necessary, right?
< 1370714699 29579 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah
< 1370714702 152080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hella convenient however
< 1370714729 300074 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blargh. Worth it to set up X forwarding to use it?
< 1370714899 243600 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“set up X forwarding” a.k.a. adding the -X parameter to ssh?
< 1370714996 191688 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would use up bandwidth, wouldn't it?
< 1370715035 231455 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s what using the network tends to do.
< 1370715061 15557 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone happen to know what SI stands for in US classification terminology? TS//SI//NF is obviously top seccret//something??//noforn
< 1370715084 223287 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was painfully slow
< 1370715094 86276 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll avoid it
< 1370715169 7596 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.acronymfinder.com/TS%2fSI.html hth
< 1370715204 5633 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that actually does. thanks.
< 1370715422 100674 :flier!~g2g2go2@185.5.157.181 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370715535 993129 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently jon oliver is going to present the daily show for a bit?
< 1370715542 931200 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo: a bigger step forward than obama
< 1370716223 128593 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Finally, a British man can be funny in America"
< 1370716386 257959 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well think about it
< 1370716399 415123 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the americans are now comfortable with an englishman taking the piss out of america
< 1370716415 751261 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :americans hate the english taking the piss out of america
< 1370716541 37788 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370716560 647000 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-237.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370716572 768485 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if the daily show's target demographic is stereotypical americans
< 1370716579 673024 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1370716713 476626 :flier!~g2g2go2@185.5.157.181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu-Mx 8 �Bienvenido al Canal de la Comunidad de Ubuntu M�xico! || Ten presente siempre el C�digo de Conducta || Visita nuestro sitio en http://ubuntumexico.org/ || �nete en Launchpad https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mx || �Nosotros somos por que t� eres! Si necesitas ayuda pregunta a todo el canal. || Reglas del Canal: http://niq.mx/umxirc || Para pegar usa http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
< 1370716723 837426 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha
< 1370716731 76103 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome flier 
< 1370716734 483020 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1011flier07: Welcome to the int14erna03tional 08h11ub for eso10teric 10pro06gramm14ing language desi05gn an09d05 deployment13! 11For 10more infor05mation, c13heck out our 09wi05ki: 14htt13p:13//esolangs02.o04rg/wik12i/Main_Page09. (For the other kind of12 esoterica, try #esoter10ic09 o04n irc.dal.n03et.)12
< 1370716907 266798 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: No buffer space available
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< 1370717044 678001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they're stereotypical democrats, no?
< 1370717055 172877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which as we all know aren't real americans.
< 1370717062 354388 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like stereotypical stoned college students
< 1370717078 507731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, a subset of democrats.
< 1370717126 370209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, has the republican party collapsed completely yet, i may have paid less attention for a while
< 1370717150 888170 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet. Bachmann quit or something.
< 1370717176 293018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they need an election to observe the actual collapse, like in quantum mechanics
< 1370717270 753946 :flier!~g2g2go2@185.5.157.181 PART :#esoteric
< 1370717293 208173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if flier has quite the hang of irc yet
< 1370717306 689961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :spammers have the hang too
< 1370717311 796025 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a different hang
< 1370717337 895156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't really spam, it was the topic message for #ubuntu-mx
< 1370717376 758745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't necessarily mean it isn't spam.
< 1370717384 907230 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry. your sentence made no sense
< 1370717390 91596 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370717398 59354 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that wasn't really spam, it was spam"
< 1370717409 585981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not commercial.
< 1370717422 178071 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370717461 314474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means i suspect it was more likely to be a mistake than intended
< 1370718563 457742 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370721362 253947 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370721410 518269 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1370721413 270033 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur
< 1370721551 750031 :Lumpio_!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370721597 520117 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oi, can you define prime numbers categorically
< 1370721940 932495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone probably can
< 1370721961 231268 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722079 454901 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1370722079 455070 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1370722120 4908 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370722130 27635 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe
< 1370722137 508001 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722157 343096 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722158 800332 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1370722168 312173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
< 1370722171 360594 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1370722171 432666 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722181 344349 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf
< 1370722237 3669 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722243 144697 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1370722252 4126 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722254 920195 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722316 200033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722353 176315 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370722355 795140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
< 1370722425 857138 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1370722660 116407 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/iyad_elbaghdadi are you all ready for islamic libertarian startup culture?
< 1370722663 593634 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1370722809 454533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayn al-rand
< 1370722880 38816 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1370722986 302871 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370723077 302937 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370723509 770744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a implementation of Deadfish in Nintendo Family Computer.
< 1370723555 274551 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :Guest98034
< 1370723560 354980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can work with up to eight digits.
< 1370723633 970782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :famicom esolang, nice
< 1370723693 123025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could probably be made to fit in a much smaller ROM, but 16K is the smallest one available.
< 1370723733 634735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is download http://zzo38computer.org/nes_program/deadfish.zip If you have a emulator or a Famicom then you can try it.
< 1370723786 332226 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :family computer brainfuck
< 1370723799 520607 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think there is one of that already.
< 1370723855 643718 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably!
< 1370723864 553339 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well hey, there was Family Computer BASIC.
< 1370723874 397759 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, "Family BASIC".
< 1370723883 297041 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly you should call it Family Deadfish.
< 1370723903 366625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there was that. I don't have a copy of Family BASIC, however; I only have the emulator, and I don't have Family BASIC on that either.
< 1370723953 200419 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pity.
< 1370724022 206149 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION particularly loves that Family BASIC supported a tape drive

< 1370724044 973228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never written a program to use the tape yet.
< 1370724079 246234 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though in principle you could. The tape interface is on the keyboard.
< 1370724093 483161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But possibly a Z-machine interpreter could store the save files in a tape, or it could put the transcript there if you could connect a printer to the tape port somehow.
< 1370724121 450021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, and the emulator I use does support the tape (and the keyboard).
< 1370724122 741391 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tape hookup is a pair of mono phono jacks.
< 1370724139 15490 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1370724143 70511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that.
< 1370724147 60507 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god you could use that for Internet.
< 1370724175 959232 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it famicom or super famicom that had the satellite hookup
< 1370724181 677970 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super Famicom.
< 1370724198 629111 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The satellite hookup was one-way.
< 1370724203 396058 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww.
< 1370724215 91031 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cart had a satellite tuner in it, and that was 'bout it.
< 1370724267 926362 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370724303 631271 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there some way to compile C to 6502 asm out there
< 1370724327 779508 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1370724340 852856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Yes, there is, and Zooming Secretary has been written using it.
< 1370724353 100816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just used assembly language, though.
< 1370724399 5319 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Sweet*. Contiki already supports the NES.
< 1370724463 594359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Deadfish implementation is much longer than the other ones because there is many things that isn't built-in.
< 1370724618 37905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you try my implementation and you find any mistake or other comment, then please tell me about it.
< 1370724781 149114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't implement key repeat (you have to release the key before it will accept another command), but it does deal with overscan.
< 1370724935 717298 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favourite esolang thing will probably forever remain IBNIZ
< 1370724993 425969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is IBNIZ?
< 1370725058 246955 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s viznut’s audiovisual language.
< 1370725062 755219 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite is Bancstar
< 1370725136 822621 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EODERMDROME
< 1370725178 244523 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370725556 124453 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :EMORDMREDOE
< 1370725979 180205 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370726356 304073 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :daehenoc
< 1370726366 361314 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeknomcipe
< 1370726873 346719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which NES/Famicom programs use OAM in ROM (instead of OAM in RAM, which is probably more common)?
< 1370726988 694224 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1370727565 349815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?sdrawkcab gnipyt uoy era yhw :lluFeerF
< 1370727565 461108 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370727565 613616 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370727582 532883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack
< 1370727582 749459 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370727582 821430 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370727620 830067 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botmeal
< 1370727621 49039 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370727621 120433 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370727684 857422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @admin + oerjan
< 1370727960 131452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + FreeFull
< 1370727960 283768 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges
< 1370727965 871845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAKE
< 1370727979 678805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1370727980 825712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @admin - FreeFull
< 1370727993 574096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly bots
< 1370727994 763426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked fine.
< 1370728009 555739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that you can make it leave the channel if the double-botting gets annoying.
< 1370728019 630315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1370728053 888528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @quit
< 1370728054 113899 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges
< 1370728083 616089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: HOW DARE YOU DEFY ME
< 1370728084 669154 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @leave
< 1370728085 117 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges
< 1370728100 461170 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @seriously, go away
< 1370728100 568697 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370728108 842200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list quit
< 1370728109 47497 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: echo list listchans listmodules listservers uptime
< 1370728109 156602 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: echo list listchans listmodules listservers uptime
< 1370728120 520737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list leave
< 1370728120 736651 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: echo list listchans listmodules listservers uptime
< 1370728120 808522 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: echo list listchans listmodules listservers uptime
< 1370728128 92158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very useful list
< 1370728132 760603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help quit
< 1370728132 995663 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit [msg], have the bot exit with msg
< 1370728133 143455 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit [msg], have the bot exit with msg
< 1370728136 682037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help leave
< 1370728136 898922 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave 
< 1370728137 9050 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave 
< 1370728296 541442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hm, starting with C is pretty intense
< 1370728304 292003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know for a long time that you could get free C compilers
< 1370728327 358561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had Teach Yourself Game Programming in 21 Days which came with a DOS C compiler, but like a bad / limited one
< 1370728344 909416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really enjoyed reading that book but most of the stuff in it would be beyond my capabilities for like another 10 years
< 1370728369 951714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TI-8x was a great platform for learning programming
< 1370728392 434844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had it with me always so i could spend spare moments programming (e.g. during the many long bus rides that defined my school existence)
< 1370728420 15336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it had easy access to graphics, graphing, and menus which made it easy to do small games and demos without a lot of bullshit
< 1370728442 449148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could share your programs at school peer-to-peer in a way that was really compelling (probably not so much anymore for the facebook generation)
< 1370728447 861494 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still program ti 84 stuff :')
< 1370728460 21378 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ti basic is very cute
< 1370728534 888412 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys. generalised deadfish http://sprunge.us/GeYR?hs
< 1370728545 450573 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370728557 354588 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Somalia_map_states_regions_districts.png&offset=&limit=500#filehistory wikipedia on the front lines
< 1370728595 619285 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: whoa that's pretty cool
< 1370728607 593829 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be a gif
< 1370728623 614270 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370728672 475099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old somalia
< 1370728693 489267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm told that somaliland is a relatively stable (sub-)state by local standards
< 1370728711 30345 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370728742 227811 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know a guy who's family was going to move there
< 1370728748 995906 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, uh, haven't heard from him for a few months, hm.
< 1370728753 538973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think lexande counts it as a country for his country count
< 1370728757 988757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: eep
< 1370728761 422301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why were they moving there
< 1370728774 897215 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :His family was from the area.
< 1370728792 189402 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guy I knew wasn't really excited about it though.
< 1370728797 430266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't imagine why
< 1370728805 549853 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370728896 568356 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully he's still in the UK and just hasn't been around
< 1370729944 399412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: why a type class and not ordinary polymorphic stuffs
< 1370729993 115973 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370730102 239481 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370730204 530537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why indeed
< 1370730280 790058 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1370732754 136871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grumble* I think I have a caffeine addiction
< 1370732767 900168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't drink coffee on the weekends, and lately I've been having a headache each weekend
< 1370732806 706193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1370732812 806396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a caffeine addiction
< 1370732821 107953 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people do
< 1370732832 586492 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrelated: does anyone here happen to know anything about baseball and the history thereof
< 1370733261 339382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bay area seball
< 1370733262 342724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370733271 248457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1370733922 62452 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1370733977 711967 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370733998 88298 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370734082 384109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's why i always make sure to have caffeinated beverages (these days coke zero) in the house
< 1370734143 195706 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, or I could try cutting myself down to 1 cup of coffee a day
< 1370734157 692145 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370734171 635979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could not drink coffee hth
< 1370734252 176758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's boring!
< 1370734277 699237 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what w eneed here is definitely more drugs.
< 1370734306 148393 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, agreed.
< 1370734314 249873 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus far my experience with drugs is that they are magic.
< 1370734318 800863 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just cut your caffeine with heroin hth
< 1370734320 395676 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is drinking coke without sugar! that's like ..like
< 1370734325 793951 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and coke yes
< 1370734327 840226 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx hagbard
< 1370734338 740886 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye.. safes life
< 1370734348 169108 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :job and family
< 1370734361 27026 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p
< 1370734422 440744 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me that zero shit!
< 1370734434 876710 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :must make an end to it
< 1370734443 418578 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, are you talking about soda.
< 1370734452 815589 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may be confused
< 1370734459 416674 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: Without sugar? We need more sugar!
< 1370734467 324592 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :icy suger
< 1370734474 612219 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naj
< 1370734485 938693 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all the same bike,..drugs
< 1370734530 253384 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FHOFMiQYKI
< 1370734552 102471 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs are good..people are bad
< 1370734598 537957 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guns don't kill people.. people kill people
< 1370734972 834315 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exporing inner and outer space
< 1370734982 334048 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*exploring
< 1370735030 929967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: my weight dropped drastically approximately after i switched from sugared coke to zero.  although there may have been other factors.
< 1370735102 930875 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there is no doubt such amounts of sugar are not healthy
< 1370735118 247393 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had your reason
< 1370735157 566376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't reason, it was my stomach acting up and a fear i might be getting diabetes.
< 1370735203 979532 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, death is the ultimate consultant
< 1370735215 285229 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew, far out again
< 1370735233 962658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop ircing on drgus hth
< 1370735247 685996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it felt wrong to fix that typo)
< 1370735255 522491 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop thinking about a pink elephant!
< 1370735260 146472 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now!
< 1370735269 771759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse!
< 1370735276 81473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a TI-92 calculator and sometimes program it.
< 1370735278 304141 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i shut up ;)
< 1370735292 508057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: *and am not afraid to use it
< 1370735304 367883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that too.
< 1370735372 362793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including a solitaire card game, a random name generator, a dice rolling program, Goldilock's Method, a telephone numbers database, and various other things.
< 1370735970 179694 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370736150 325667 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370736548 807636 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be slightly workaholic
< 1370736563 167476 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... not
< 1370736569 739973 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've been checking my work email repeatedly
< 1370736606 179114 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370736722 245477 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO
< 1370736729 14650 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370737107 676868 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370737125 481976 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELO
< 1370737312 720113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did kmc get a job at mozilla?
< 1370737415 235474 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Searching Amazon Instant Video for whose line is it anyway finds me Two and a Half Men
< 1370737421 1238 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's really not what I was looking for
< 1370737513 475654 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1370738257 166475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes
< 1370738294 107282 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370738456 660373 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370738658 746674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Mastermind is easier than I remembered.
< 1370738834 144368 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if I read about liquid war strategy, I can beat the AI on medium difficulty
< 1370738853 270730 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, the closest I came to winning, I couldn't stamp out the pocket of resistance that I surrounded
< 1370738863 931901 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: congratulations, I guess
< 1370738867 308900 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/software/liquidwar6/manual/html_node/Strategy-tips.html
< 1370738879 386991 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the most helpful page ever!
< 1370738888 211951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks olsner
< 1370738898 682889 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "you're on your own, motherfucker"
< 1370738923 809991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is there a trick that makes it easy?
< 1370738941 166206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not especially.
< 1370739842 586084 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is SennHeiser still your recommendation?
< 1370740167 342484 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen on youtube: the new world order has apparently made america into a virtual prism
< 1370740399 165728 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370740465 305831 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, cool
< 1370740684 7646 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370740788 600539 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes.
< 1370740811 667745 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, just ordered earbuds and headphones, so...
< 1370740865 507403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This will greatly enhance my MIDI listening experience!
< 1370740910 51242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. It'll never be anything but MIDIocre.
< 1370740963 751325 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HD 201 and MX 270
< 1370741066 291589 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1370741449 64325 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1370741830 910189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MX missile
< 1370741929 281094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are computer things so bad compared to what they could be
< 1370741937 408987 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is everything bad
< 1370741944 142278 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :things should be good
< 1370741951 285247 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because they're built by idiots
< 1370741960 714709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly
< 1370741964 354833 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly.
< 1370741972 143817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problems are easy, it's just that other people aren't as smart as me
< 1370741977 127592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point
< 1370741985 975165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i designed everything then i would get everything right the first time
< 1370741999 808818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370742001 622024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need more people like kmc in the world
< 1370742010 89034 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Visionaries.
< 1370742051 916977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i would use C
< 1370742057 328499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe we all just need to give kmc a bunch of money and have him solve all our problems............
< 1370742061 250109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I would not make any mistakes and that way it would be fast
< 1370742062 823320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also make him dictator of the world
< 1370742157 290795 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, as dictator, what would you do to deal with the growing hunger crisis (it's a crisis in that it's bad not in that it's like rapid) in the united states
< 1370742596 677103 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1370742818 116738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone make some mistakes, including you too.
< 1370743638 337447 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't make mistakes
< 1370744525 842199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? You forgot to capitalize "I" and add a full stop.
< 1370744603 919607 :Guest98034!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it was on purpose, not forgetfulness
< 1370744738 648855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest98034: you have forgot to fix your nick hth
< 1370744798 228266 :Guest98034!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to
< 1370744815 918201 :Guest98034!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always forget which channels i have to part before i can nick
< 1370744835 351204 :Guest98034!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia
< 1370744846 206189 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host
< 1370744846 317070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370745346 695890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know you had to part any, what kind of channels are that
< 1370745370 545726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you cannot change your name if you are on any channels that you cannot post messages on.
< 1370745412 233087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if parting and rejoining is less noisy...
< 1370745450 356879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once on some other IRC server I was unable to post messages on some channel, so instead I unjoin and then change my name and then join and then unjoin and then change my name and so on; eventually they fixed it, though, so that I can post messages. They put that in there due to someone else that was using this IRC before who used my IP address.
< 1370745644 443830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know, I was being sarcastic
< 1370745658 510643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make many mistakes and I pick tools that help me catch mistakes before they can do damage
< 1370745663 875340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least I would like to.
< 1370745740 857803 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately you made the mistake of mistakenly picking tools?
< 1370746124 705075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :your first mistake was making your second mistake
< 1370746140 427707 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep.
< 1370746286 953109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  your first mistake was making your second mistake
< 1370746293 628327 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1049)  your first mistake was making your second mistake
< 1370746341 891181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lotta quotes
< 1370746342 951575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1024
< 1370746344 547765 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1024)  i would visit elliott but i'm vegetarian
< 1370746350 320732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1370746378 654587 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1037
< 1370746380 325231 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1037)  the real GNU kernel is GRUB
< 1370746418 208120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 512
< 1370746419 916281 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :512)  Isn't "strip nomic" just another word for all dating, though?
< 1370746473 510529 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Kernel doesn't seem as amenable to static analysis as Racket, so how do you reconcile your liking of Kernel with your liking of static analysis?
< 1370746505 535976 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strip... nomic?
< 1370746505 812842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying "JIT" a lot
< 1370746536 589732 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly sounds lame.
< 1370746542 474791 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also static analysis isn't that hard. as long as you remove environment mutability. who needs that anyway
< 1370746550 273412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Static analysis is not just about performance.
< 1370746567 155256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that's what you mean? I don't know what you mean. Or what I mean.
< 1370746578 952841 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't care about performance, but checking correctness

< 1370746683 123077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo write a correctness jit hth
< 1370746704 400505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 256
< 1370746706 104196 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :256) 00:07 Sgeo has quit (IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.)  00:12 Sgeo has joined #esoteric.
< 1370746716 869027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sounds like a plan
< 1370746726 625714 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursive JITting?
< 1370746732 136405 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't tell you this code is correct until you run it
< 1370746733 416863 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1370746742 352296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tells you that your code is broken just in time
< 1370746743 333488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgtm
< 1370746744 970755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1370746750 789901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand
< 1370746862 800614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i don't claim Kernel is practical
< 1370746869 863415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it for aesthetic and theoretical reasons
< 1370746882 46029 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rage.
< 1370746884 2853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like all kinds of languages for different, even contradictory reasons
< 1370746909 95583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about php
< 1370746914 356746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you draw the line at self-contradictory reasons
< 1370746917 588159 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd really like to make kernel practical. the dream
< 1370746924 287200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see languages as 'must have feature X or Y', it's more about integrating the features you do have in a pleasing way
< 1370746931 242339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so easy
< 1370746955 708657 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think a person has been consistent in the entirety of history so like, whatever, man, right?
< 1370746982 52491 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually people don't really have propositional beliefs anyway. imo anarchy in the hippocampus
< 1370747008 908022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
< 1370747019 82248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes
< 1370747025 234970 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's obviously true.
< 1370747218 455672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like different kind of language for different reasons, although some have some stupid stuff (including PHP).
< 1370747250 958930 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I really remember like, basiaclly nothing about starting with C, but it was through some online course thing (but it was really primitive because it was the 90s?) and I know like.  I don't think even pointers were done, it was like.  really way simpler
< 1370747269 589416 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to jump on the "i have varying beliefs often backed up by reasoning" train, i think it's going places
< 1370747274 557074 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I only really infer that by like, the fact that I totally had to actually learn C when I actually had to use it for class years later <.<
< 1370747294 108552 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i "learned" C++ in a similar fashion
< 1370747299 330305 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my words are completely incoherent because I just woke up from a 3 hour nap)
< 1370747307 73054 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throur
< 1370747307 564542 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd ask my dad who threw me into the whole thing
< 1370747310 239267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I doubt he'd remember
< 1370747337 244188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the first language I wrote anything in was either C or Logo.
< 1370747343 880395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I programmed in BASIC first. I still do program in BASIC sometimes, although I also program in C and various other programming languages.
< 1370747355 209885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first language i wrote in was TI-82 BASIC
< 1370747359 600071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ⋘³ logo hth

< 1370747372 645570 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is an absurd emoticon sir
< 1370747403 180324 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good think i can't see it
< 1370747407 976490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first actual programming class I took was in C++ and they gave us a lot of bad advice
< 1370747425 746062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: could've been worse. could've been in c/c++
< 1370747428 162167 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the first one I was in was java
< 1370747438 956344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did basically the same curriculum in Java the next year
< 1370747450 593436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋘₃ -- is that better?
< 1370747452 949987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks better here.
< 1370747526 513668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first class i took was vb i think, then delphi, then java, then c
< 1370747541 328422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1370747545 955253 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget delphi
< 1370747550 328812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you take a class in a language if it's not object-oriented
< 1370747554 530141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1370747560 5558 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up >:
< 1370747583 354263 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust taking up the C niche doesn't imply unsuitability for application dev, right?
< 1370747615 834680 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language could fill up a niche that another language took, while still being suitable for things that other language wasn't, I assume
< 1370747622 672631 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :my high school was not object-oriented but i still graduated 5th in my class stalemate bitches
< 1370747634 585752 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's kind of amazing though like how where you start affects things
< 1370747644 55470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that seems logically correct yes
< 1370747646 498788 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I knew a classmate in college who started with scheme I think
< 1370747657 287248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's pretty hard to draw a line between 'application' and 'systems' anyway
< 1370747660 314997 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme is p okay
< 1370747668 755355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started with c++ so: am i doomed
< 1370747671 198047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :browsers definitely started as humdrum applications software and gradually became systems software
< 1370747674 496663 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like for me the C-style lower level stuff was relatively easy and the functional and logic programming stuff was really really hard
< 1370747679 354023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was no one single point where the switch happened
< 1370747684 8995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a language used in a class i mean
< 1370747685 246583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Rust it's mainly about caring about latency a lot
< 1370747688 569761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you started in c++ because you are doomed not the other way around hth
< 1370747691 871007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :users get pissed off when their browser lags
< 1370747698 925048 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how sensible.
< 1370747703 416105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for him the functional programming and logic stuff was amazingly easy, while he was like fiora please teach me c
< 1370747728 734807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1370747735 466531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, there is a lot of software that you don't want to be lags
< 1370747738 689515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took an x86 assembly class pretty early on
< 1370747740 915728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(16-bit!)
< 1370747743 53269 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though he was way smarter than me either way, I mean, he basically got straight As and aced the logic class I literally had to drop... -_-
< 1370747744 878209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was cool
< 1370747759 328336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh grades aren't that strongly correlated with intelligence
< 1370747761 168233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional programming (whatever that is) makes a lot more sense than c imo hth
< 1370747767 488614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a lot of smart people who got shitty grades for this or that reason
< 1370747773 252683 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also he was really cute, erm, I mean, <.<)
< 1370747783 866369 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you shoulda seen the cat ears on 'im"
< 1370747804 966630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well I failed one module (= 1/48 of my course) at university
< 1370747814 694928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although my other grades were high enough that I still got a first class degree
< 1370747817 427432 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not like thaaat
< 1370747821 655396 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he was totally taken
< 1370747827 805359 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vulpine ears huh
< 1370747829 559734 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the type
< 1370747839 617264 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIKE
< 1370747845 264645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, I almost did. In some years of the high-school mathematics, I got a NM and SG. NM means a mark hasn't been assigned (like zero out of zer0), since the teacher know I am good at it despite failing to complete many assignments, and SG means you can pass regardless of your mark.
< 1370747854 716760 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're on the mark though, foxes are pretty cute as a rule
< 1370747856 805599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are some strange grades
< 1370747863 786741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The other class I got NM in was homeroom class.)
< 1370747872 207275 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are weird grades
< 1370747877 917569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got some pretty strange grades back when i got grades
< 1370747883 596234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had... A, B, C, D, F, F*, P, E, I, W and some others
< 1370747887 679240 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just be failed like a normal person (me <--)
< 1370747894 433808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :' ' aka 'TA failed to submit grades on time'
< 1370747903 681254 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What does F* mean?
< 1370747914 19849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero or more Fs hth
< 1370747925 298567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it means you failed a class which was taken on a pass/fail basis, so it doesn't count against your GPA but it's still on your transcript
< 1370747987 608100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at Caltech a lot of people got bad grades due to massive undiagnosed ADHD
< 1370748006 13657 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got like a 3.0ish major average or something... I just was really terrible in the theory classes.  I think I got a C in algorithms even though the professor was *amazing* and I loved it
< 1370748023 132135 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually liked the np-completeness proofs, even
< 1370748031 703620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :np completeness proofs are great
< 1370748040 523796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that part of Algorithms for you?
< 1370748044 843415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: O, that's what it means. I can remember in my school we had A, B, C+, C, C-, F, I, W, NM, SG, and a few others that I do not remember at this time. In typing class I got A+ although they didn't have A+ in the system so they put A instead.
< 1370748050 224657 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man my algorithms class was all sorts, jerk
< 1370748057 662767 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there was also a higher level course, like, a complexity theory class that was like Jedi Algorithms
< 1370748062 15773 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't take that one though
< 1370748062 973003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370748072 700155 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our algorithms was um...
< 1370748075 994409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took a higher level complexity theory class that had very little to do with useful algorithms
< 1370748078 528401 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should actually read my kolmogorov book
< 1370748084 98526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't take the higher level algo class because it sounded scary as hell
< 1370748086 767015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should take an algorithms class and complexity theory class and other things
< 1370748090 980097 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big O, interesting stuff like "how do you actually prove the nlogn bound on sorts", np completeness, turing machines, computability
< 1370748092 781269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe read books on the topic
< 1370748101 496246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all like "ok we taught you that NP hard problems are hard, now we're going to teach you all the cool approximation algorithms to do them anyway"
< 1370748103 162046 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was kinda a lot of algorithms analysis type stuff?
< 1370748105 231761 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and graph theory and things
< 1370748109 870157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370748115 773523 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's the scary class? more like the great class
< 1370748127 406473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :W means withdrawal, I means incomplete (similar to F, although the marks you didn't earn are due to incomplete assignments or an incomplete course), NM means "no mark", SG means "standing granted"
< 1370748141 486168 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man can you imagine actually being good at math
< 1370748144 643608 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be pretty cool i think
< 1370748150 128075 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was really amazing though.  like he would have a box of chocolate covered coffee beans at the front of the class when people came in
< 1370748154 902328 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for some strange reason everyone in class
< 1370748156 871478 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was always awake
< 1370748164 742781 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh.
< 1370748248 459716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was good at my math class, although because I failed to complete many of the assignments (although I got good marks on everything I did do, including all of the tests/exams, and the other assignments were mostly more of the same thing), my mark was not put into the report card, which made it NM for each term. The final mark was then made SG.
< 1370748264 322823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chocolate covered coffee beans are serious business
< 1370748270 692920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to eat a whole lot of them............
< 1370748275 723222 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :memories... oh right, the AI class was really wonderful.  I loved the professor for that one too, she could like explain things in a way that actually made sense and like wow
< 1370748307 793499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also dropped one class after one week (for some reason I wasn't selecting my own classes, although I was allowed to drop classes). It was graphic arts. I could not understand what anything the teacher said meant, so I dropped the class.
< 1370748481 831382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: googht
< 1370749699 834584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One idea I have is make a SQL database of iNES mapper numbers, which you might use to decide what mapper to use with your game, or for other purposes.
< 1370749828 959823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Deadfish implementations are the shortest and longest ones? I think the shortest one might be the one in AWK. The longest one might be the one for the Famicom. Is there others shorter/longer than these?
< 1370749934 48817 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The hardest thing to build is a machine that needs to function perfectly without any supervision -- without the chance to make a single adjustment once it's out of your hands"
< 1370749941 774459 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- a character in The Eternal Flame
< 1370749950 983426 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a sciencee fiction novel
< 1370749969 261166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It's part of the Orthogonality trilogy by Greg Egan
< 1370749975 286597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What machine is it?
< 1370749993 431917 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're talking about a small spaceship, and that it has a repair crew
< 1370752037 177831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes shachaf
< 1370752044 51497 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12034
< 1370752438 374389 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370753824 970901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_10#Mission_highlights "A lot of people thought about the kind of people we were: 'Don't give those guys an opportunity to land, 'cause they might!' So the ascent module, the part we lifted off the lunar surface with, was short-fueled. The fuel tanks weren't full. So had we literally tried to land on the Moon, we couldn't have gotten off."
< 1370754324 822719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any untyped non-strict languages for learning?
< 1370754604 907443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[eliding pointless argument about what 'untyped' means]
< 1370754607 616697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazy racket, maybe?
< 1370754644 363025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some lazy stuff in SICP; I think that lazy Scheme is one of the language variants they do after the metacircular evaluator
< 1370754662 543558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I say instead of "untyped" so that there's no pointless argument?
< 1370754674 628129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nothing, pointless arguments are a fact of life
< 1370754681 898755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK.
< 1370754686 913007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i elided it!
< 1370754688 150882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's fine
< 1370754700 159246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but did you elide the metaärgument about pointless arguments?
< 1370754704 955307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually object to your use of "untyped"
< 1370754711 163968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am not that powerful yet
< 1370754721 90468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I think in the places where it matters non-strictness is more sensible.
< 1370754733 583456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. in the obligatory chapter about deriving Y.
< 1370754883 552185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1370754904 183211 :asdfasd!bd045aae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.4.90.174 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370754935 371224 :asdfasd!bd045aae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.4.90.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language is just conventions for maximum convenience
< 1370754943 654223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gdi*
< 1370754973 560839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I think in places where it matters, strictness makes things way more complicated.
< 1370754980 387017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the places where it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
< 1370754988 309685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome asdfasd
< 1370754991 198574 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04as05dfasd: Welcom09e to the intern12ational hub 12for esoteric pr11ogr09am10ming la09nguage d14esign a02n02d deployment! 10Fo06r more information, check out our 03wiki: h03ttp://eso09lan12g11s.o04rg/wiki/Main_Pag07e. (Fo12r14 the o07ther kind of esoterica, try #es08oter12i06c08 on irc.d06al.net.)04
< 1370755002 894673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what happened to celebrating craftsmanship
< 1370755013 806698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it
< 1370755048 60462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :minimalism etc.
< 1370755070 942128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Should I drop some punctuation to get more minimalistic writing?
< 1370755078 654541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started dropping the comma after "i.e." and "e.g."
< 1370755093 273180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm
< 1370755096 655651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fine choice
< 1370755100 373813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I drop the .s too, and decide that they're words of their own?
< 1370755106 175180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also on "etc.", etc.
< 1370755119 355881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The . after etc is really annoying because you can't end a sentence with it very well.
< 1370755131 700722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370755169 795096 :asdfasd!bd045aae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.4.90.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,e. = id est = that is something, wouldn't make sense a comma separating subject from verb
< 1370755207 216911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think commas work the same way in Latin.
< 1370755345 275771 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370756110 980830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone was wondering about chipless bankswitching in NES/Famicom by using CHR address lines, but I don't think this will work. However, maybe it is possible by using the IRQ in the expansion port.
< 1370757079 886566 :asdfasd!bd045aae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.4.90.174 NICK :GOMADWarrior
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< 1370759566 29923 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Study: Spice Acts Like Insulin, Eradicates Diabetes"
< 1370759575 409601 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know insulin works by eradicating diabetes!
< 1370759612 674368 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
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< 1370759681 297121 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
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< 1370761369 274003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems there is not yet Deadfish in INTERCAL.
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< 1370771502 300324 :zyezhuei!~yezhuei@222.209.7.66 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1370771637 472054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 bin/olist
< 1370771638 675601 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0") $@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1370771655 51908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1s/ \$/${$@:+ }$/' bin/olist
< 1370771658 768936 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1370771669 365753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whoopse"
< 1370771724 317355 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370771736 502053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/@/1/g' bin/olist
< 1370771739 972526 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1370771757 275550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right.
< 1370771775 365581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't quite understand this error...
< 1370771788 615398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist fake, sorry, this is just kind of odd
< 1370771790 150799 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/olist: line 1: $(basename "$0")${$1:+ }$1: : bad substitution \ /hackenv/bin/olist: line 2: shachaf: command not found \ /hackenv/bin/oerjan: line 1: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
< 1370771794 793251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1370771795 12817 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1370771805 665264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are all those As?
< 1370771833 99007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you revert back two revisions?
< 1370771893 585417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I get it.
< 1370771906 62854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap oerjan
< 1370771906 174502 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits oerjan with a hammer, so they breaks into a thousand pieces

< 1370771906 323773 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SMACK*, *SLAM*, take that oerjan!
< 1370771945 780842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe...
< 1370771948 111978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 3075
< 1370771950 949241 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1370771985 448782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1s/ \$/${@:+ }$/' bin/olist
< 1370771988 350329 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1370772000 783770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's good.
< 1370772046 350435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute...
< 1370772053 569148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric/2013-02-06.txt:03:27:53:  `run echo AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > bin/oerjan; chmod +x bin/oerjan
< 1370772061 901901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap shachaf
< 1370772062 10881 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go slap shachaf yourself
< 1370772062 119463 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION jabs shachaf with a C pointer

< 1370772075 214890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: maybe i will
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< 1370772085 106450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sorry for the inconvenience.
< 1370772108 333042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And possible disappointment over olist.
< 1370772111 149248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist, more like nolist
< 1370772124 573212 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan
< 1370772126 556985 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation. Also a lying Norwegian who hates Roald Dahl.
< 1370772675 156298 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/False_Friends_of_the_Slavist
< 1370772684 342973 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how sinister that name sounds
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< 1370773334 704327 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
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< 1370773736 847989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: An advantage my new /hilight is that when people spell my name "schachaf" or some such I still get highlighted.
< 1370773751 628165 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you use a regex
< 1370773761 681971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :chaf\b
< 1370773769 945946 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf
< 1370773775 641694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoooooooodl
< 1370774189 577737 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what if i start talking about chaff
< 1370774205 393378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you do
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< 1370777523 845096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"box" is just a lie, though. It's concrete, but it's the wrong thing.
< 1370777539 736548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only confuses people -- and sometimes it confuses them for months or years. They think they understand but they don't.
< 1370777550 186059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this is the wrong channel.
< 1370777616 878055 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the box you talk about is your matrix of solidity, this is the right channel
< 1370777695 502401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner:  shachaf: what if i think of a box as a value continuum?
< 1370777706 567603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be the right channel...
< 1370777763 153932 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I think of the box as an astral plane?
< 1370777769 733676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it contain rotten apples?
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< 1370780321 229958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: mosh basically implements a full terminal emulator from scratch, right?
< 1370780341 865685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could theoretically just write something that actually renders its state to the screen and get a new terminal emulator with better unicode support than anyone else
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< 1370780615 967310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh's unicode support is broken hth :'(
< 1370780671 643976 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less broken than the alternatives?
< 1370780706 410865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The obvious alternatives in my case are ssh shachaf.net and mosh shachaf.net
< 1370780711 995265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With ssh it works.
< 1370780720 363406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(These work very differently, of course.)
< 1370780765 475535 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :moshachaf vs sshachaf
< 1370781697 42927 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1370782093 593856 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you think the metaphor is still useful as an introduction to functors (was the box thing about functors)
< 1370782297 127255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, boxes are less than useless.
< 1370782302 656613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the box metaphor.
< 1370782306 16424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boxes are useful.
< 1370782328 808742 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes imo putting things in physical boxes is great
< 1370782384 162727 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway how'd you explain functors without boxes... maybe just, they're a way of adding a "context" to a value?
< 1370782410 700871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a value"?
< 1370782431 662262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For most functors f, a value of type f a doesn't contain any value of type a at all.
< 1370782436 251051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it might contain multiple ones.
< 1370782443 609282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it might ...
< 1370782473 474961 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe s/value/type/
< 1370782494 281326 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370782558 239040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what "context" means but I bet it's at least as complicated as "Functor"
< 1370782736 828649 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :functors are too vague to explain imo
< 1370782800 29660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the concept of covariance and contravariance is important hth
< 1370782820 62365 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i still haven't read enough about category theory to be able to explain haskell Functors in term of that
< 1370782837 927866 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict Functors are endofunctors in Hask
< 1370782857 528994 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and thehyre all covariant???)
< 1370782859 324256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor represents Hask-* -> Hask-* (Hask-* terminology stolen from McBride so he doesn't eat me)
< 1370782862 346549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I as far as i category theory Functors are endofunctors in Hask
< 1370782867 108211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contravariant is Hask-*^op -> Hask-*
< 1370782888 982520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invariant is Hask-* x Hask-*^op -> Hask-*
< 1370782890 371432 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what' Hask-*
< 1370782896 32042 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :     s
< 1370782896 104510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you called Hask
< 1370782905 259913 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's Hask
< 1370782951 723650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ob(Hask) = the set of Haskell types; hom_Hask(A,B) = the set of Haskell functions A -> B
< 1370782963 973644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't actually a category for stupid reasons IIRC but it's close enough
< 1370782974 791639 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, well the thing is that you can't have a true functor in what you usually think of in Hask
< 1370782977 798245 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for _|_ reasons right
< 1370782980 531880 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370782996 19179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: yes
< 1370783002 843106 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because if you have some functor f, then applying it to a type results in f a
< 1370783004 267383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to violate either left or right identity I think
< 1370783007 670054 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably bottom as well
< 1370783009 540290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you are saying incorrect things
< 1370783012 789760 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the thing i said counts too!
< 1370783022 408033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370783027 489388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :level error
< 1370783040 735785 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit
< 1370783056 256506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you're saying is that you can't fully model all Hask-* -> Hask-* functors as a Haskell typeclass
< 1370783071 258451 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably this is what i am saying
< 1370783071 395870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is true I think
< 1370783078 176269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only because you can do undecidable stuff
< 1370783102 166719 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between Hask and Hask-*, is what i'm wondering atm
< 1370783104 850833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's definitely true without type families at least
< 1370783116 793152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: the difference is that conor mcbride hates people who say Hask
< 1370783206 602823 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric ::((((
< 1370783409 963580 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hom_Hask^op(A,B) = the set of Haskell functions B -> A, right?
< 1370783444 933162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370783529 302551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't conor mcbride hate everybody though
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< 1370784892 98054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "λ"
< 1370784892 318806 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character)
< 1370784893 356480 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  λ
< 1370785427 987450 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370785783 446154 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1370785867 461140 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2006/may/20/weekend.jonronson ronson, the GLORIOUS RETURN
< 1370785907 231068 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile: wow ender's game is even more horrible than i'd realised
< 1370786501 782955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2006/may/27/weekend.jonronson
< 1370786508 572957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't add to that one
< 1370786641 389306 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what do the croutons say about *you*, Phantom_Hoover?
< 1370786663 852590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: this guy needs a knighthood
< 1370786666 71693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a sainthood
< 1370786686 30218 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370786706 492247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you can get a sainthood if you're jewish
< 1370786715 346813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't think you can get a knighthood if you're welsh
< 1370786781 775584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: these injustices, too, must fall
< 1370786824 701237 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're welsh maybe you can get an urdd marchog instead
< 1370786846 760989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can get a nddrylliog
< 1370786963 897637 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1370787174 240470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how for ronson's book about extremists he interviewed a comically radical islamist, the guy in charge of the kkk... and ian paisley
< 1370787325 29602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know nothing about ireland, help
< 1370787348 832211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :paisley was one of the leading unionists during the troubles
< 1370787357 722313 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and later first minister after the good friday agreement
< 1370787421 373915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what the whole unionist thing is about, i'm so terrible
< 1370787495 875352 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously
< 1370787525 462604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unionists are the pro-uk, broadly protestant ones
< 1370787542 490601 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the republicans are the pro-republic, broadly catholic ones
< 1370787559 585011 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of them were the terrorists?
< 1370787563 417380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both
< 1370787573 23180 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg complicated
< 1370787654 277305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1370787779 35191 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there weren't as many bombings etc. from the unionist paramilitaries though, i don't particularly know why that was
< 1370787894 475058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe possibly maybe the british government didn't want bombings, and might get a bit iffed at the people who supposedly were at their side.  just saying.
< 1370787935 377577 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :working for a union formed of mutual bombing and respect
< 1370787938 727052 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unionist paramilitaries were (officially) illegal as well
< 1370787941 68201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes this is about NI, otherwise disregard

< 1370787944 684226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when do governments shy away from using violence
< 1370787958 492932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though there was collusion between them and the security forces to some controversial degree
< 1370787959 378926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they shy away from _others_ using violence.
< 1370788023 363889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that whole "monopoly on violence" thing.
< 1370788136 919906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but again, the actual government weren't like "ok we want you to rough up the republicans a bit but no bombs, ok!"
< 1370788224 961355 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net
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< 1370788342 204659 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2006/jun/03/weekend.jonronson oh my god
< 1370788365 861084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you still on that thing, maybe i should look at one of those links
< 1370788393 106636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are very good
< 1370788400 932673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally logread and click all of them
< 1370788406 267495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know about bind mounts btw?
< 1370788407 218832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe olsner
< 1370788451 455923 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370788535 728731 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used those yes... what about them?
< 1370788590 8288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: why does bind mounting a file require the target path to exist
< 1370788627 587379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno
< 1370788653 317776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. you're useless
< 1370788654 757194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1370788862 968929 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_Civil_Rights_Association
< 1370788878 509000 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how their goals just have "and nuclear disarmament" tacked on at the end
< 1370788903 275780 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeah sure that sounds like a good idea"
< 1370789064 417003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370789536 512438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1370789596 445346 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro
< 1370789938 370696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2006/jun/10/weekend.jonronson
< 1370790081 870143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait has it always said "Out of ordinary"
< 1370790085 212726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear there was a "the" there
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< 1370790170 261341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it oscillates
< 1370790266 917330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, iain banks died
< 1370790271 410254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it does
< 1370790294 903429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh jeez, already?
< 1370790331 202077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aliens got him
< 1370790371 694526 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that was fast ._.
< 1370790377 983260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He announced he had cancer just 2 months ago...
< 1370790382 170652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you have a citation, all i see is uncited on WP?
< 1370790389 931691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no relevant news results, so maybe it is just vandalism
< 1370790393 678331 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the citation is charles tross tweeting so
< 1370790397 759761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*charles stross
< 1370790398 900098 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/cstross/status/343740022924648448
< 1370790422 628893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks :(
< 1370790432 316871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should really get around to reading the Culture books

< 1370790489 720604 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was one of my favorite authors too...
< 1370790533 303497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i loved his books
< 1370790554 257528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am now really regretting not doing more that one time i went to a talk thing he did
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< 1370795539 475437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Famicom Deadfish stores the current number in decimal (using one byte for each digit), and has a 9x9 multiplication table in ROM, as well as a mod10 and div10 tables in ROM, used to implement addition. The cursor is blinking by changing the palette; the OAM is stored in ROM so it won't change the sprites.
< 1370795616 167134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only letters in the pattern table are I D S O, and if you push any other keys it will ignore it and it won't be displayed.
< 1370795648 164045 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"to the point that the most current implementation of Zapfino as of this writing, Zapfino Extra Pro, has achieved what seems to be limited sentience. "
< 1370795654 205387 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://typophile.com/node/12422
< 1370795689 977140 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intelll why do you release manuals that use terminology that you never define in the manual ._.
< 1370795811 21731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I don't know!
< 1370795822 684626 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370795833 129938 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you intel? <.<
< 1370795837 613811 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you're supposed to already know that stuff obviously
< 1370795873 293747 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1370795883 122780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but maybe someone else might know or don't know, too.
< 1370796017 187154 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a table showing the delays and stuff between different units on the chip and have labels like
< 1370796044 529178 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :INT, SSE-INT/AVX-INT, SSE-FP/AVX-FP_LOW, X87/AVX-FP_HIGH
< 1370796057 368015 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they never define FP_LOW or FP_HIGH anywhere unless I am really bad at searching which I might be
< 1370796066 987392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is Intel. in fact, zzo38 is AMD too. zzo38 is Barack Obama.
< 1370796200 882473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am pretty sure that I am not those things.
< 1370796209 98778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stand corrected
< 1370796226 394649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: more seriously, googling "FP_LOW FP_HIGH Intel" does seem to show other results in Intel manuals? but I may be wrong. like, "MOVSHDUP—Move Packed Single-FP High and Duplicate. ... MOVSLDUP— Move Packed Single-FP Low and Duplicate"
< 1370796235 879995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370796240 287507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's (Single-FP) High
< 1370796245 297326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than Single - (FP High)
< 1370796248 939391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just coincidence
< 1370796253 916744 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the optimization reference manual
< 1370796274 226747 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has tables of functional units and dispatch ports and execution stacks and stuff
< 1370796311 833398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe FP_low does bits 0-127 and FP_high takes bits 128-255
< 1370796343 829033 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's a different thing
< 1370796354 163122 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's old instructions that will do things like load a 64-bit value into the low/high half of an sse register
< 1370796366 495118 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they steal all the google results ^^;
< 1370796394 518978 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah... that feels like it could be right.  but it seems kind of weird that the latency between units is delinated like that?  like based on the top or bottom halves... but only for float, not for int...
< 1370796452 176988 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess... maybe they're like in different places on the chip...
< 1370796479 986267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do they make it way too complicated?
< 1370796685 951724 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370796878 485367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1370796996 125633 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think the english is not as good in this manual as in the other ones
< 1370797085 274872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new one with the haswell stuff?
< 1370797087 519937 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370797113 492977 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's probably kinda draft-ish, it feels really less detailed than the sections on previous cpus
< 1370797120 445440 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, this one stops at Sandy Bridge, so I might have an older version
< 1370797141 579733 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370797160 182514 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://download.intel.com/products/processor/manual/325383.pdf   I think this is it?
< 1370797164 890328 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, no
< 1370797167 450406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote domain name
< 1370797169 311757 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :984)  ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...]  Domain Name System [...]  ♫ domain name system ♫
< 1370797170 998445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nefarious purposes.)
< 1370797197 560186 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/manuals/64-ia-32-architectures-optimization-manual.pdf  I think this is it
< 1370797241 909525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about running long compilations on your server is that you don't hear the desperate howl of the fans
< 1370797252 416568 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the bad thing
< 1370797259 258499 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some things are really weird.  like, vpblendd has inverse throughput 0.33 but none of the other blends do (o_O)
< 1370797268 220752 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they made round 2x slower I mean not that I use it but...
< 1370797281 910698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no way. it's like I have infinite power and it's not even breaking a sweat!
< 1370797294 117085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, I get less feedback about when it's done
< 1370797363 291041 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's actually this whole section in the manual about how to replace shuffles with blends in things like transposes which is like wow I had no idea, that's pretty cool
< 1370797470 776557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can see how long the program is:  http://esolangs.org/wiki/Deadfish#Unofficial_MagicKit_Assembler
< 1370798062 437487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um.
< 1370798074 203450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a steam-powered road vehicle just passed by my window.
< 1370798114 453588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had a big chimney and all.
< 1370798123 126465 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :horseless carriages have finally reached hexham?
< 1370798150 134444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I swear to god, there is a car store called "Hexham Horseless Carriages"
< 1370798161 593925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably dates back to when horses still existed.
< 1370798231 20871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think horses do still exist, although not necessarily in Hexham.
< 1370798306 67334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As mentioned in the outline history section a French artillery officer by the name of Nicholas Cugnot (1729-1804) made a steam three-wheeler intended for military use in 1769. This was arguably the first 'motor vehicle' although the small boiler could carry only enough water for a fifteen minute run and the maximum speed was about 4mph.
< 1370798310 970657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In spite of these limitations on his first road trial of the three wheeler machine, making him arguably the first motorist, M. Cugnot hit a wall, becoming the first motorist to have an accident, and after several more experiments he scored the hat trick by becoming the first person to be arrested and imprisoned for dangerous driving.
< 1370798397 728855 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiul.
< 1370798411 665092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a stereotype about french drivers
< 1370798429 185860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it just subsume into the greater whole of french terribleness
< 1370798804 423937 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :found this: http://satwcomic.com/driving
< 1370799065 486428 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can confirm Hexham Horseless Carriages is a shop that exists
< 1370799076 143126 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's a steam rally in Corbridge or something
< 1370799136 46798 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tvr-hhc.co.uk/ they have a website. hell yes
< 1370799153 73078 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol established in 1996
< 1370799159 26582 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1370799176 168060 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why woud they name it that then?
< 1370799192 317491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's, like, posh.
< 1370799213 1425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rich people don't know the word "car"
< 1370799215 17246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370799223 154508 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMEoR2ECMAAZ2c2.jpg stupid future
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< 1370800180 961691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE BillyZane 
< 1370800183 717809 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :BiLlYzAnE: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.)
< 1370800280 596471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew I think we had this one
< 1370800283 411157 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.ten.lad.cri no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .egaP_niaM/ikiw/gro.sgnalose//:ptth :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :eno :siht :dah :ew :kniht :I
< 1370800658 475951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone mind if I bring another lambdabot in here?
< 1370800660 561614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for testing.
< 1370800699 371737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nominate oerjan to answer.
< 1370800705 340959 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1370800707 380192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@id The more the merrier!
< 1370800707 596498 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : The more the merrier!
< 1370800707 718224 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : The more the merrier!
< 1370800713 253418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, we already have two
< 1370800726 878725 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370800733 885916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run 123
< 1370800734 581266 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  123
< 1370800737 731344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run () 1
< 1370800738 314863 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Couldn't match expected type `a0 -> t0' with actual type `()'
< 1370800742 211912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run myquickcheck
< 1370800743 127333 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Test.QuickCheck.Property.Testable prop0)
< 1370800743 199150 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a...
< 1370800748 346086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run id
< 1370800748 988040 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (a0 -> a0))
< 1370800749 96379 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use of `M19171...
< 1370800751 218365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far so good
< 1370800751 809681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id
< 1370800752 354179 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (a0 -> a0))
< 1370800752 510541 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use of `M95925...
< 1370800753 96989 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: show: No overloading for function
< 1370800754 993767 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  {()->()}
< 1370800757 883948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1370800765 729859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check True
< 1370800765 944738 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  unrecognized option `--loadfile='
< 1370800766 161819 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Usage: mueval [OPTION...] --expression E...
< 1370800767 74535 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `myquickcheck'
< 1370800768 440597 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  +++ OK, passed 1 tests.
< 1370800771 341548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I win!!!
< 1370800802 675651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 'λ'
< 1370800802 797579 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character)
< 1370800804 208523 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  '\955'
< 1370800813 863878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1370800815 947059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 'λ'
< 1370800816 54374 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `eval' failed with: mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character)
< 1370800816 126427 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character)
< 1370800817 205472 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  '\955'
< 1370800820 73501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo!!
< 1370800822 253751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. i shall fix
< 1370800836 440400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370800836 540936 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Client Quit
< 1370800853 645230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly different, those bots
< 1370800864 59763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> print
< 1370800865 270808 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (GHC.Types.IO ()))
< 1370800865 381641 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: show: No overloading for function
< 1370800865 453886 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use of ...
< 1370800871 460470 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370800876 442848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 'λ'
< 1370800876 552934 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval: recoverEncode: invalid argument (invalid character)
< 1370800877 259347 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  '\955'
< 1370800877 626936 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  '\955'
< 1370800879 585514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370800895 205059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run x
< 1370800895 867515 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `x'
< 1370800896 488841 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  x
< 1370800896 603826 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  x
< 1370800898 811082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: you are _so_ out of date!
< 1370800916 510178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the order is lambdabot < kappabot < mubot in terms of age of code, I think.
< 1370800922 872957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot is based on the fancy new split-up git lambdabot.
< 1370800928 315355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this means I had to patch it to get it to work.)
< 1370800936 231099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hi, I am interested in your Pristine.hs
< 1370800944 993730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 1
< 1370800945 214224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 1
< 1370800945 326625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 1
< 1370800945 430586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 1
< 1370800945 794551 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800946 180099 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800946 287069 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800946 396645 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800946 981692 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800947 90874 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800947 427910 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800947 643994 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800947 971108 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800948 525253 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800948 846125 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800949 725208 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370800951 510319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough of a race condition.
< 1370800952 938236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1370800958 784981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen elliott
< 1370800958 856363 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are in #esoteric..
< 1370800958 928039 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370800959 40532 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370800963 651859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen oerjan
< 1370800963 758847 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is in #esoteric..
< 1370800963 867797 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370800963 939811 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370800968 359035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you part hth
< 1370800976 713673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>
< 1370800977 412892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do I mean twh
< 1370800993 426650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PART :#esoteric
< 1370800999 562943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen oerjan
< 1370800999 669832 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw oerjan leaving #esoteric 6s ago.
< 1370800999 741773 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370800999 813812 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370801002 684442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :m etoo
< 1370801004 476424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan u suck
< 1370801004 548157 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370801004 620249 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370801004 696682 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370801009 126160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3
< 1370801020 789148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370801030 687923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages
< 1370801030 816676 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared.
< 1370801030 928315 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared.
< 1370801031 28933 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared.
< 1370801031 744880 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you have mail hth
< 1370801039 667652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also
< 1370801040 147756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list
< 1370801040 254474 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module?  Try @listmodules for some ideas.
< 1370801040 325429 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS
< 1370801040 397069 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.haskell.org/lambdabot/COMMANDS
< 1370801042 758301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules
< 1370801042 830374 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search seen slap
< 1370801042 902337 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl url version vixen where
< 1370801042 902507 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity babel base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval fact free fresh ft haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlinerc pl pointful poll pretty quote search
< 1370801042 974309 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity babel base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval fact free fresh ft haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlinerc pl pointful poll pretty quote search
< 1370801042 974487 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :slap source spell state system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where
< 1370801043 77770 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slap source spell state system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version vixen where
< 1370801046 47955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @listmodules
< 1370801046 197400 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search seen slap
< 1370801046 269425 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl url version vixen where
< 1370801053 798437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I should remove vixen
< 1370801055 120932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you add a SQL extension into the wiki? For example if you have a article named "forty-two" and then you can write CREATE TABLE "forty-two" ("X" INTEGER, "Y" TEXT); and on other pages you can INSERT INTO "forty-two" and SELECT ... FROM "forty-two".
< 1370801061 387427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd have to recompile.
< 1370801066 484278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also @djinn is broken on mine :(
< 1370801068 567514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn a -> a
< 1370801068 639490 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Djinn command failed: fd:10: hClose: resource vanished (Broken pipe)
< 1370801068 711656 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = a
< 1370801068 901942 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output from Djinn; installed?
< 1370801073 465945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1370801087 722091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370801087 833071 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Client Quit
< 1370801090 352938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then to make SELECT ... in order to call a template with the results of a SELECT query.
< 1370801308 209683 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370801408 476118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1370801421 166670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370801438 259000 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370801441 148058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @botsnack
< 1370801441 271028 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370801443 828818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @djinn a -> a
< 1370801443 937689 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = a
< 1370801449 340080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @listmodules
< 1370801449 445695 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search seen slap
< 1370801449 554955 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl url version where
< 1370801464 990752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @spell haeprj
< 1370801465 326034 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :heparin PRC hepatic paprika heroic
< 1370801469 450933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @spell frend
< 1370801469 559941 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friend fr end fr-end friend frond
< 1370801471 731243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370801474 402885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quote
< 1370801474 622277 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes yet.
< 1370801482 441894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @pl \xs ys -> xs ++ ys
< 1370801482 513728 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(++)
< 1370801488 368182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @src (++)
< 1370801488 480081 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[]     ++ ys = ys
< 1370801488 552092 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x:xs) ++ ys = x : (xs ++ ys)
< 1370801488 552289 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- OR
< 1370801488 552411 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :xs ++ ys = foldr (:) ys xs
< 1370801494 454368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @wn test
< 1370801495 859201 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "test" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1370801495 931031 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1370801496 3141 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: trying something to find out about it; "a sample for ten
< 1370801496 3333 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :         days free trial"; "a trial of progesterone failed to
< 1370801496 488167 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :         relieve the pain" [syn: {trial}, {trial run}, {test},
< 1370801498 501265 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[31 @more lines]
< 1370801507 677730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @oeis 1, 2, 3, 4
< 1370801516 130226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh
< 1370801517 101491 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : The natural numbers. Also called the whole numbers, the counting numbers or ...
< 1370801519 318705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good
< 1370801530 737329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @let x = 123
< 1370801531 184857 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1370801534 484226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @type x
< 1370801534 960696 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integer
< 1370801538 609337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't it great??
< 1370801598 328857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I assign you to figure out more ways to test it, hth.
< 1370801604 813416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance you could check that @check works properly!
< 1370801717 809152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mubot
< 1370801721 889194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1
< 1370801722 528060 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370801723 70058 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370801723 177021 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370801732 146566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run text "λ"
< 1370801732 756445 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  λ
< 1370801750 687463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it responds to > now?
< 1370801757 320350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 'λ'
< 1370801757 423652 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fd:9: commitBuffer: invalid argument (invalid character)
< 1370801757 813173 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexical error at character '\187'
< 1370801759 182046 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexical error at character '\187'
< 1370801767 920313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I guess > is just broken in /msg
< 1370801769 480187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well
< 1370801842 178031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think :t and :k used to be broken in /msg too
< 1370801893 29708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> x+y == y+x
< 1370801893 359081 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  unrecognized option `--loadfile='
< 1370801893 585017 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Usage: mueval [OPTION...] --expression E...
< 1370801893 797167 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Test.QuickCheck.Arbitrary.Arbitrary a0)
< 1370801893 906358 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a ...
< 1370801894 611169 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `myquickcheck'
< 1370801911 758189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> x+y == y+(x::Int)
< 1370801912 131681 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  unrecognized option `--loadfile='
< 1370801912 280661 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Usage: mueval [OPTION...] --expression E...
< 1370801913 122542 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `myquickcheck'
< 1370801914 318154 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  +++ OK, passed 100 tests.
< 1370801919 570176 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :botsplosion
< 1370801939 623161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @run myquickcheck
< 1370801940 844055 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Ambiguous type variable `prop0' in the constraints:
< 1370801941 87589 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :   (GHC.Show.Show prop0...
< 1370801948 490647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ^ kappabot's @run is impure
< 1370801949 516481 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1370801969 710383 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone actually play Liquid War online?
< 1370801996 10058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @run print "hi"
< 1370801997 199390 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (GHC.Types.IO ()))
< 1370801997 418493 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use of ...
< 1370802052 255063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: absolutely no one hth
< 1370802069 898695 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1370802080 433016 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I would try to get Liquid War 6 working if it meant I could play against people
< 1370802091 757933 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And be crushed even worse than the medium strength AI crushes me
< 1370802101 679820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: previous answer pulled from thin air.)
< 1370802132 815752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be crushed like no one has been crushed before
< 1370802425 630440 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to get LW6 woking
< 1370802426 763223 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woking
< 1370802428 49669 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :working
< 1370802569 604347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we need some more greek letter bots
< 1370802619 702915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Mu 3
< 1370802620 512908 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: data constructor `Mu'
< 1370802620 890247 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: data constructor `Mu'
< 1370802620 999348 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: data constructor `Mu'
< 1370802621 220683 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `MR' (imported from ...
< 1370802622 381596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Mu Nothing
< 1370802623 48967 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: data constructor `Mu'
< 1370802623 541921 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: data constructor `Mu'
< 1370802623 664905 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: data constructor `Mu'
< 1370802623 798896 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `MR' (imported from ...
< 1370802632 201912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> In Nothing
< 1370802632 856182 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show
< 1370802633 225783 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :                    (Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskel...
< 1370802634 653628 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In Nothing
< 1370802634 764614 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In Nothing
< 1370802698 863451 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370802699 238372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @help nick
< 1370802699 566344 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands
< 1370802703 245030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw.
< 1370802716 670167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @nick deltabot
< 1370802717 367484 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: dice dict
< 1370802736 72193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like I've been deltabot with some missing functionality.
< 1370803781 241923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370803810 440688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/05/civil-disobedience-on-a-turkish-game-show/
< 1370803810 994090 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Civil Disobedience on a Turkish Game Show - NYTimes.com, http://tinyurl.com/meafb9f
< 1370803821 305839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: help.
< 1370803831 83078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How did you disable that in kappabot?
< 1370803836 583312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know goodfellow has it
< 1370803853 780229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disabled it by doing nothing. hth
< 1370803886 306264 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no url title things here huh
< 1370803959 916893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because they're annoying
< 1370803961 27692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4no url title things here
< 1370804037 329656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will track down what is doing it
< 1370804109 847938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370804109 958326 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370804161 708924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@url-on
< 1370804161 961590 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370804162 67814 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370804163 879138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok.
< 1370804183 794397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :     "HaskellIrcPastePage",  -- Ignore paste page
< 1370804183 882940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :     "title of that page",   -- Ignore others like the old me
< 1370804187 24152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this plugin is lol
< 1370804276 618442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can fix :t not working with Unicode
< 1370804295 148534 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370804305 807352 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Rather than use subRegex, which is new to 6.4, we can remove comments
< 1370804306 153547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- old skool style.
< 1370804331 714410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you have any idea why :t fails at unicode
< 1370804342 295696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @type 'λ'
< 1370804343 339018 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexical error at character '\187'
< 1370804360 398392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it goes via completely different mechanism from >
< 1370804373 999663 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t '\187'
< 1370804375 47988 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char
< 1370804375 119893 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char
< 1370804387 9472 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type '\187'
< 1370804388 133020 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char
< 1370804388 204756 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char
< 1370804416 434309 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370804480 115884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@numberwang 3
< 1370804480 265174 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370804480 337085 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370804942 42404 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370804948 101662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://google.com/
< 1370804950 63973 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1370805025 121402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: challenge: figure out why mubot's username is what it is
< 1370805073 377346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because mu is on the other side of lambda
< 1370805088 871945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370805091 541683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the *username*
< 1370805092 985975 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the nickname
< 1370805108 277533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1370805326 9522 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to today's news, someone's made a car "for young people who can't drive but are on the internet all the time"
< 1370805364 217258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "a\rb"
< 1370805364 862515 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ab
< 1370805365 357204 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ab
< 1370805365 428985 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ab
< 1370805369 996563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @text "a\rb"
< 1370805370 105824 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "text"
< 1370805370 177819 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "text"
< 1370805370 249846 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "text"
< 1370805373 897911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @run text "a\rb"
< 1370805374 572070 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ab
< 1370805375 27929 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ab
< 1370805375 100214 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ab
< 1370805381 70516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @type (@run text "a\rb")
< 1370805382 169915 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `a'
< 1370805382 241820 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `b'
< 1370805383 121856 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :    The function `a' is applied to one argument,
< 1370805383 228977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :    The function `a' is applied to one argument,
< 1370805383 340192 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :    but its type `Expr' has none
< 1370805383 452203 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :    In the expression: a b
< 1370805383 524222 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :    but its type `Expr' has none
< 1370805383 524407 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :    In the expression: a b
< 1370805387 309684 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1370805390 598406 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type "hi"
< 1370805391 184354 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char]
< 1370805391 727869 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char]
< 1370805391 836872 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Char]
< 1370805394 121960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @type (@run text "123\r:q")
< 1370805395 71198 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `q'
< 1370805396 132182 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match expected type `[a0]' with actual type `Expr'
< 1370805396 278221 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Couldn't match expected type `[a0]' with actual type `Expr'
< 1370805396 350148 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :    In the second argument of `(:)', namely `q'
< 1370805396 422096 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :    In the expression: 123 : q
< 1370805396 422263 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :    In the second argument of `(:)', namely `q'
< 1370805396 422370 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :    In the expression: 123 : q
< 1370805398 674528 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1370805406 755427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do we have three lambdabots in the channel
< 1370805407 508264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: looks like it gets treated as whitespace
< 1370805409 17808 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad we have three bots for this now
< 1370805420 177610 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma elliott
< 1370805420 303003 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has a karma of 0
< 1370805420 415951 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has a karma of 42
< 1370805420 487494 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has a karma of 1
< 1370805424 308110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1370805426 36866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe mine breaks more
< 1370805428 550096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1370805430 883289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when do i have 42 karma
< 1370805437 147957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @type (@run text "123\r4")
< 1370805438 156691 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Num (a -> t), Num a) => t
< 1370805439 369107 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Num t => t
< 1370805439 441161 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : forall t. Num t => t
< 1370805444 896983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1370805448 572054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @run 123 4
< 1370805449 745341 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num (a0 -> t))
< 1370805450 8294 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from the ambiguity chec...
< 1370805451 229736 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 21 more greek letters that don't have bots yet, get cracking
< 1370805452 278646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?!
< 1370805452 385942 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? .
< 1370805452 494257 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ v
< 1370805452 566008 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ v
< 1370805465 827829 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he fucking didn't, bots, maybe he fucking didn't
< 1370805466 803254 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, NumInstances?
< 1370805479 99781 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @type views
< 1370805479 531523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: look at the :t output
< 1370805480 270574 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (p :: * -> * -> *) s (m :: * -> *) r a. (MonadReader s m, Profunctor p) => Overloading p (->) (Accessor r) s s a a -> p a r -> m r
< 1370805482 210669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the @run output
< 1370805501 63354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370805501 218486 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370805506 655647 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'd say that's reasonably consistent?
< 1370805521 491251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:17:19   forall t. Num t => t
< 1370805523 313223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:17:29    Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num (a0 -> t))
< 1370805523 899903 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help whats this mubot
< 1370805529 392239 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, kappabot
< 1370805646 225690 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need a deadfish bot
< 1370806135 699319 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what for
< 1370806278 17927 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370806297 778002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine
< 1370806297 849905 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1370806300 540563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run 3
< 1370806301 186956 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1370806302 865716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370806316 802159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for messing up L.hs.
< 1370806331 970459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't seriously expect things in L.hs to stay there
< 1370806350 327047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I could before you @undefined.
< 1370806357 183532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @listchans
< 1370806357 512907 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric weird#
< 1370806357 621314 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here
< 1370806363 324215 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @listchans
< 1370806363 428130 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric weird#
< 1370806363 500157 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here
< 1370806373 220969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, time to find out what on earth weird is.
< 1370806399 320224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :         loc       = case aloc of                        [] -> Nick "freenode" "weird#"
< 1370806402 221684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :                        _  -> Nick (server msg) (tail aloc)
< 1370806403 508702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf.
< 1370806506 196729 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?!
< 1370806506 310626 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? .
< 1370806506 420406 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ v
< 1370806506 493117 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ v
< 1370806519 14495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @part #esoteric
< 1370806519 267116 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PART :#esoteric
< 1370806524 530014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/PRISM_NSA   oh gosh this is great
< 1370806549 444143 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Memo to Becky Schultz of Clearwater, FL: our data prove that your younger brother is not the most annoying person in the universe"
< 1370806557 465410 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Suggestions please: what font should we use for our now spin-off, http://snapchatbackup.com ? #PRISM20%TimeProjects"
< 1370806580 69020 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Second worst shift at #PRISM: reading YouTube comments, Worst shift at #PRISM: 4Chan duty"
< 1370806619 346775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1370806715 412013 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We are PRISM. We are actually anonymous. We are actually legion. We really, really do not forget. Accept us."
< 1370806718 491673 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this twitter
< 1370806771 235603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1fzgxy/the_largest_free_thought_and_atheist_forum_in_the/
< 1370806776 354708 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is not enough lol in the world
< 1370806799 9299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hahahahaha
< 1370806808 597666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahahahahahahaha
< 1370806823 39361 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took a quick peek to point and laugh and apparently they're in the middle of a civil war
< 1370806855 547725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from scrolling down it looks like this is because they removed comment images or something
< 1370806858 144206 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1fz8o0/how_ratheism_lost_the_gay_community/
< 1370806865 662962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh or they banned image posts
< 1370806866 804899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something
< 1370806868 921639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is amazing
< 1370806871 385331 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keeping forums on-topic: alienating the gay community
< 1370806902 439733 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where was 4-D scrabble from the FRC advertised?
< 1370806902 769277 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they banned all non-self posts maybe?
< 1370806921 333407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just imagelinks
< 1370806924 3182 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about memes?
< 1370806925 795437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, they banned image posts, I think links that aren't images still work. So I guess it's manual removal of bad posts
< 1370806926 451177 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard it's fascist
< 1370806927 661627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow someone is trying to make /r/atheism not a total joke?
< 1370806943 488161 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, because some mods got the founder of /r/atheism removed
< 1370806949 864369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For inactivity
< 1370806957 932904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on
< 1370806961 777037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course sgeo knows about this already
< 1370806962 209226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they ban pictures
< 1370806966 13313 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :r atheism should just die, that would be good
< 1370806986 225710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how does it feel to oppress free thought
< 1370806996 675481 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty good
< 1370807042 866094 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm mentally readnig this entire twitter in glados's voice
< 1370807068 935872 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame oerjan for getting me into nomics in the first place
< 1370807081 839242 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not oerjan, but whoever put up a thing on their page about 4-D scrabble
< 1370807152 205045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how will i turn pictures of neil degrasse tyson into karma now
< 1370807157 566832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a great system
< 1370807158 711443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/space
< 1370807161 171529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you gotta go and ruin it
< 1370807183 9933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/r/PicturesOfNeilDegrasseTyson
< 1370807191 882895 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :r/mildlyinteresting is good
< 1370807196 634332 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kill all of reddit except that
< 1370807202 947996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for fans of neil degrasse tyson, just for fans of pictures of neil degrasse tyson
< 1370807204 71823 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1370807207 784444 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is /r/space still a sagan-tyson circlejerk? i hope you appreciate that i am not up to date)
< 1370807228 614183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: until just now i have never been to /r/space
< 1370807230 243162 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the prism thing is too depressing for me to find funny, i think >_>
< 1370807247 204344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it's too funny for Fiora to find depressing.
< 1370807253 677415 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps.
< 1370807258 876942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[picture of space] "fuck yeah science!" [does not understand first thing about science]
< 1370807273 102176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's too depressing /not/ to find funny!
< 1370807288 292448 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[picture of grad student covered in potato chips and ripped up grant proposals] fuck yeah science!
< 1370807313 848051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gawker.com/the-nsa-sent-a-takedown-notice-over-my-custom-prism-log-512085836
< 1370807319 557425 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone see maddox's hilarious anti-fuck-yeah-science rant
< 1370807326 71598 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was missing the point writ large
< 1370807329 43069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hahaha
< 1370807342 154399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah that's more like it
< 1370807360 178733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :picture of grad student poking rats with a stick for 100 hours in a row
< 1370807382 112864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dream job
< 1370807386 172429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :senior rat-poker
< 1370807388 354219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://achewood.com/index.php?date=10042004
< 1370807400 513030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :junior rat-poker only does it for 50 hours
< 1370807402 945951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good
< 1370807405 67019 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :picture of grad student reading "the view from the left" for thirty hours straight
< 1370807414 521324 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :poking at emacs ineffectually
< 1370807465 271887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me
< 1370807468 235747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I don't get money for it
< 1370807471 780043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inb4 "neither do grad students"
< 1370807488 557553 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not paying money for it though
< 1370807534 736115 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370807554 91652 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370807574 445730 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370807575 140770 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1370807583 14046 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370807601 546599 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1fza8s/the_arguments_in_favor_of_the_new_moderation/
< 1370807601 618509 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1370807610 412602 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If 2 million people want to subscribe to /r/trueathiesm, then they will. Until then, r/trueatheism is not entitled to the 2 million subscriptions that r/atheism acquired fairly in the free market."
< 1370807617 972686 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370807626 488109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good point
< 1370807632 401656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE INVISIBLE HAND OF THE FREE REDDITOR
< 1370807636 946256 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess it's.... it's kind of depressing but like at this point it kind of feels like the only way to cope is gallows humor -_-
< 1370807638 125164 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither do grad students
< 1370807658 632004 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: we could do like the turks and make video game references as we get shot
< 1370807664 29345 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-34-96.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1370807668 743768 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1370807681 94729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: o_O?
< 1370807681 468170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do like the turks and be mechanical
< 1370807715 830633 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18pu5c73wlb0ajpg/ku-xlarge.jpg "next is tanks"
< 1370807728 732630 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's awful
< 1370807740 372166 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18pu5omzy3088jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
< 1370807753 849116 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1370807761 292588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye ph
< 1370807763 542276 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370807792 979570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ph
< 1370807804 85736 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18pu9o8gv7pumjpg/ku-medium.jpg because apparently someone stole a bulldozer and fucked up some riot tanks
< 1370807823 42837 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi i've invented a new brainfuck deriv-- nah i've done that already
< 1370807843 984564 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-145.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1370807887 493449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you killed taneb
< 1370807909 395326 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye taneb
< 1370807921 694351 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1370808035 415463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \c -> c == 'q'
< 1370808037 70764 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `myquickcheck'
< 1370808039 153610 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370808044 315282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: wat
< 1370808049 108238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that mueval bug?
< 1370808050 597561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \c -> c == 'q'
< 1370808051 925820 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `myquickcheck'
< 1370808053 539181 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test and 1 shrink):
< 1370808053 689188 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'a'
< 1370808070 701159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \c -> c == LT
< 1370808072 239 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `myquickcheck'
< 1370808073 508207 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 3 tests and 1 shrink):
< 1370808073 580079 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : EQ
< 1370808078 169562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok.
< 1370808081 895573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run print
< 1370808082 574649 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) arising from a use of `e_1'
< 1370808082 646467 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type va...
< 1370808087 449894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run putStrLn
< 1370808088 130786 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show
< 1370808088 202768 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :                    (GHC.Base.String -> GHC....
< 1370808096 918214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t print
< 1370808097 402986 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show a => a -> IO ()
< 1370808098 108501 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show a => a -> IO ()
< 1370808101 601549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand
< 1370808105 844571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it want a show instance for a?
< 1370808109 311465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it not have extended defaulting?
< 1370808114 77032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run undefined
< 1370808114 632408 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0)
< 1370808114 780613 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use of `M194199338.sho...
< 1370808117 485553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1370808141 106581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: any idea what's up here?
< 1370808144 381754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can kappabot rejoin for tests?
< 1370808147 524295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where?
< 1370808151 960884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gopher it.
< 1370808164 462747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you don't have ExtendedDefaulting on?
< 1370808169 479551 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370808173 722558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: right, I don't -- but do you? if so where
< 1370808179 694706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in L.hs, looks like
< 1370808184 702561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @run undefined
< 1370808186 376045 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1370808187 690836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, mueval thing?
< 1370808189 276719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @run print
< 1370808190 329883 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (GHC.Types.IO ()))
< 1370808190 605822 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use of ...
< 1370808209 947640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is mueval working for you, anyway?
< 1370808266 260254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems OK.
< 1370808269 146849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or what do you mean?
< 1370808289 192284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, its UTF-8 was broken for me under 7.4.
< 1370808291 397840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to patch it.
< 1370808294 985713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked for me.
< 1370808296 361087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370808296 433393 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370808310 974098 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370808311 775991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run undefined
< 1370808312 760376 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1370808315 169306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run print
< 1370808315 842582 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) arising from a use of `e_1'
< 1370808315 933398 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type va...
< 1370808324 682770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run putStrLn
< 1370808325 397337 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show
< 1370808325 469359 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :                    (GHC.Base.String -> GHC....
< 1370808329 322736 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370808335 460824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run ()
< 1370808336 62453 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ()
< 1370808336 643404 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ()
< 1370808337 126259 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ()
< 1370808337 337902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it depends on show but doesn't use it
< 1370808352 748297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1370808357 939209 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, we totally need more bots here
< 1370808480 769110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run 3
< 1370808481 467623 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1370808483 703728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run print
< 1370808484 524725 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  <() -> IO ()>
< 1370808487 91884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1370808524 728278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @run print
< 1370808525 839011 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Show.Show (GHC.Types.IO ()))
< 1370808526 59149 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use of ...
< 1370808534 269438 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1370808534 724310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @run print
< 1370808535 909264 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: show: No overloading for function
< 1370808543 205257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: add a show instance for IO plz thx
< 1370808546 980688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or just "import ShowFun")
< 1370808557 447153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like like NoFun
< 1370808583 345208 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does kapapbot use SSL?
< 1370808597 100784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
< 1370808728 815706 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF
< 1370808747 673299 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAPERLIPOPELEPET is an actual word
< 1370808753 216691 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In French, but still)
< 1370808802 114424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it could!
< 1370808807 679287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect there is no point though
< 1370808814 715728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1370808817 818398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it does use *my* Freenode password.
< 1370808820 439589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess lambdabot's password is fairly valuable
< 1370808826 333250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, my IRC client also doesn't.
< 1370808841 86421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses fancy SASL authentication

< 1370808888 429998 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370808888 663978 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host
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< 1370808912 89188 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370809057 258698 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1370809228 477660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: :t (++)
< 1370809230 671262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @type (++)
< 1370809231 905616 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. [a] -> [a] -> [a]
< 1370809242 204918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: :t foldr
< 1370809247 659721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @type foldr
< 1370809248 98568 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> b) -> b -> [a] -> b
< 1370809248 985992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @type foldMap
< 1370809249 462006 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: `foldMap'
< 1370809249 570411 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1370809249 642315 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :      `Data.Foldable.foldMap' (imported from Data.Foldable),
< 1370809252 206145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @type F.foldMap
< 1370809252 627018 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find qualified module.
< 1370809253 976332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1370809389 735729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @listmodules
< 1370809389 844820 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search seen slap
< 1370809389 844989 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where
< 1370809467 397380 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @help activity
< 1370809467 509524 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity seconds. Find out where/how much the bot is being used
< 1370809470 702424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @activity
< 1370809470 774239 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :3*total 3*#esoteric
< 1370809474 638506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @activity
< 1370809474 895953 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0*total
< 1370809476 666785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @activity
< 1370809476 891299 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1*total 1*#haskell-blah
< 1370809483 273545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you know this command existed?
< 1370809489 400853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1370809505 639058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if lambdabot should really be running it.
< 1370809507 88909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : SAPERLIPOPELEPET is an actual word <-- please read more carefully hth
< 1370809512 295680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like an undesirable infoleak
< 1370809571 249812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@activity-full
< 1370809571 364278 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges
< 1370809571 461764 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges
< 1370809571 533790 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0*total
< 1370809575 606358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1370809582 224034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo @admin + me
< 1370809589 144438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not
< 1370809610 73934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @faq
< 1370809610 339835 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that.
< 1370809615 713863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot...........................................
< 1370809634 803353 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh
< 1370809635 240129 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Showing results for SAPERLIPOPETTE
< 1370809635 371809 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search instead for SAPERLIPOPELEPET
< 1370809638 43880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370809716 966627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :    _             -> "I'm sorry Dave, I'm affraid I don't know that command"                           
< 1370809719 925557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm affraid too.
< 1370809757 836167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @run N 'a'
< 1370809758 945492 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: data constructor `N'
< 1370809759 994946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370809760 90427 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370809762 874098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h8r
< 1370809769 995228 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370809777 473588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@faq
< 1370809777 601545 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that.
< 1370809777 673471 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that.
< 1370809777 745448 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that.
< 1370809781 395477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph.
< 1370809786 104693 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot, @SAPERLIPOPELEPET
< 1370809786 216043 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370809786 519102 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty frequent
< 1370809790 320076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I went to fix @faq
< 1370809795 578200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but then I also found myself adding @get-shachaf
< 1370809800 338705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@get-shachaf
< 1370809800 469594 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370809800 614710 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370809800 715745 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370809801 443133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and decided it would be best to quit while I was ahead
< 1370809810 445984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants to ?where ?where
< 1370809826 711521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should fix that loop
< 1370809831 303361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact shachaf, can you try it out?
< 1370809833 36871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don t do it
< 1370809834 178118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is fixed already
< 1370809837 646185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809837 873442 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809837 986200 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809838 90093 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809838 162090 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809838 162269 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809838 311063 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809838 383255 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809838 455145 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809838 455264 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809838 455342 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809838 749509 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809838 901431 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809839 5653 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809839 116713 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809839 226598 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809839 932285 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809840 43689 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809840 117056 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809841 940563 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809842 50024 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809842 121708 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809843 946856 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809844 93588 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809844 165215 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370809844 780106 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good decision
< 1370809845 887558 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809847 344284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @part #esoteric
< 1370809847 893910 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809848 42922 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PART :#esoteric
< 1370809849 968885 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809851 942821 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809854 157089 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809855 856757 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370809856 318221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me
< 1370809857 956567 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `where' failed with: <>
< 1370809859 961361 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `where' failed with: <>
< 1370809866 726510 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hth.
< 1370809877 75436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:30:44 !lindbohm.freenode.net *** Message to #esoteric throttled due to flooding
< 1370809879 999671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1370809881 893415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being oppressed for running mubot
< 1370809921 872586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you test @unlambda
< 1370809924 822411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @free id
< 1370809925 371543 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f . id = id . f
< 1370809972 981073 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370809983 385162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack
< 1370809983 524919 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370809983 596388 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370809984 585946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@free unsafeCoerce
< 1370809985 107863 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extra stuff at end of line in retrieved type "Not in scope: `unsafeCoerce'\n"
< 1370809985 621396 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extra stuff at end of line in retrieved type "Not in scope: `unsafeCoerce'\n\n"
< 1370809991 920593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@free unsafeCoerce :: a -> b
< 1370809991 992653 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :g . unsafeCoerce = unsafeCoerce . f
< 1370809991 992862 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1370809992 252147 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g . unsafeCoerce = unsafeCoerce . f
< 1370810000 676072 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow nice theorem
< 1370810005 199430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce is v. powerful
< 1370810028 208452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@free safeCoerce :: a -> ()
< 1370810028 280565 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :safeCoerce = safeCoerce . f
< 1370810028 352335 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :safeCoerce = safeCoerce . f
< 1370810035 567082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlambda ```.N.o..i
< 1370810035 822011 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No.
< 1370810035 957953 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No.
< 1370810039 9608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@free help :: () -> a
< 1370810039 81567 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f . help = help
< 1370810039 153105 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f . help = help
< 1370810051 659298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@free undefined
< 1370810052 203423 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f undefined = undefined
< 1370810052 764902 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f undefined = undefined
< 1370810056 526131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1370810059 252836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice free theorem
< 1370810086 205673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ty tdh
< 1370810108 708517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't help?
< 1370810112 165106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard oerjan wrote the @unlambda interpreter........................................................
< 1370810120 115267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that DID help
< 1370810129 231761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: negativity free yourself etc
< 1370810129 820275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it may descend from one i wrote, yes
< 1370810140 450232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently gwern uploaded oerjan's http://hackage.haskell.org/package/unlambda
< 1370810158 17256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dons edited it?
< 1370810160 23876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe for compatibility
< 1370810230 507672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am pretty sure there were other unlambda interpreters in haskell when i wrote mine, though
< 1370810255 180345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: huh, we have Is in lambdabot now?
< 1370810319 499217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I bugged Cale to add it.
< 1370810371 497015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to do something with sequent logic once, I made up something, and then from what I made seems unable to make (a |- a) although I was able to make ((a -> b) |- (a -> b)).
< 1370811137 443518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot @hi
< 1370811142 253944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot, @hi
< 1370811145 886366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops.
< 1370811147 349601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot @hi
< 1370811149 54808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot, @hi
< 1370811157 456425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @hi
< 1370811159 932181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1370811168 93161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @bot
< 1370811168 204434 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370811170 712897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot, @bot
< 1370811170 838660 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370811172 65527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot @bot
< 1370811173 746134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK.
< 1370811475 656718 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently the PRISM leaker is a ron paul supporter. where's your god now leftists
< 1370811526 561854 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like the least surprising thing ever
< 1370811550 883739 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now imagining the NSA doing a paranoid sweep to find every employee who's ever posted pro-ron-paul things and fire them
< 1370811558 221293 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1370811566 849315 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... with prism
< 1370811567 22509 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we know his name though, and he doesn't work for them any more, so.
< 1370811578 633202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not like the NSA would want a ron paul supporter anyway, most likely.
< 1370811588 295570 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was a contractor
< 1370811627 967077 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :livin' large in HK
< 1370811845 960988 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. The FRC taught me a bit of history, that I had previously assumed was fictitious
< 1370811854 393325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1370811855 596822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In foggy London he succeeds in convincing the brothers (who in this
< 1370811855 706858 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :timeline have Japanese ancestors!) to include in the statutes of the
< 1370811855 822370 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bank, that they will never hire a certain Nick Leeson. More than 200
< 1370811855 894194 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :years later, the latter does not get a job with Baring's.
< 1370811855 894360 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consequently he does not have the occasion to swindle the bank out of
< 1370811856 618169 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 1000 million dollars that were subsequently used to finance the Time
< 1370811858 633078 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Police."
< 1370811863 536827 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grah
< 1370811867 574824 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a bad idea'
< 1370811886 209343 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There really was a Nick Leeson at Baring's Bank
< 1370812056 368884 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he swindle a billion dollars?
< 1370812076 366548 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Read error: No route to host
< 1370812117 525491 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He did something criminal
< 1370812137 796660 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think it was more gambling with the bank's money than actually stealing it
< 1370812143 889025 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leeson
< 1370812183 53513 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370812229 789966 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i've heard of this guy.
< 1370812369 536426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what's the frc/do i want to know)
< 1370812380 710439 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: fantasy rules committee
< 1370812388 463534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomic-like game played since the stone age
< 1370812393 482902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan played in it once upon a time
< 1370812489 956787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saved it from the mammoths
< 1370812512 921987 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sir-toby.com/nomic-archives/frc/
< 1370812515 300055 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classic rounds
< 1370812549 350738 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370812658 907856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently i was the judge for that 4d scrabble round
< 1370812807 292867 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370812960 923113 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah I remember that one
< 1370812971 33447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370812971 252198 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370812976 222914 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :saperlipopelipet
< 1370812983 969871 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370812987 599901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2
< 1370812988 576428 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2
< 1370812988 723430 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2
< 1370813000 267450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lepet
< 1370813010 873516 :jago25_98!~j@41.63.227.221 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370813018 330568 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1370813062 385938 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net NICK :Koen_
< 1370813096 686109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370813096 797717 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Client Quit
< 1370813107 744382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's kappabot?!?
< 1370813108 958000 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370813180 920009 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370813215 683702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: shachaf killed it
< 1370813456 168300 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370813456 279587 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370813466 988468 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370813475 273356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: challenge: figure out why mubot's username is what it is
< 1370813476 638609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know why)
< 1370813519 738766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the least fixed bot
< 1370813524 279221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh username not nick
< 1370813855 366540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right username
< 1370813910 485884 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FRC once got me back into Haskell
< 1370813917 756042 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't remember when that was
< 1370813928 250137 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I wrote a short little FLogic-ish thing
< 1370813959 472049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it short for Debian-Exim?
< 1370813973 852410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes
< 1370813976 130473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370813976 245054 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370813993 11956 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370814014 811243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just a useful 'nobody' user?
< 1370814026 995100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh does debian have a fake inetd that responds with that?
< 1370814036 92501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nope, nope
< 1370814037 921095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :identd*
< 1370814040 373105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whateverthefuckd
< 1370814050 332214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well I don't know then
< 1370814062 191083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in a chroot
< 1370814071 845016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UID it runs as in the chroot happens to overlap with the UID of Debian-exim in the outer system
< 1370814076 690444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the identd runs outside of the chroot
< 1370814090 246576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also means "ps" and "top" think that Debian-exim is running it
< 1370814112 257260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fun
< 1370814113 447713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why a chroot
< 1370814188 449930 :jago25_98!~j@41.63.227.221 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1370814257 894433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, have you ever read lambdabot's source coe
< 1370814258 812414 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*code
< 1370814269 283120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :":t" works by running yr input thru a regexp and piping it to ghci
< 1370814275 989782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even a sandboxed ghci
< 1370814278 464967 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what regexp
< 1370814283 524211 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370814296 614704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it's not just a regexp
< 1370814304 43296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: actually it's a recursive function because the regexp function doesn't work in GHC <6.4
< 1370814309 186683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: GHC 6.4 was released like a hundred years ago
< 1370814315 927243 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that sounds good
< 1370814316 962288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stripComments ('\n':_)    = [] -- drop any newwline and rest. *security*
< 1370814321 1543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :stripComments ('\n':_)    = [] -- drop any newwline and rest. *security*
< 1370814322 86413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*security*
< 1370814323 617639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good timing
< 1370814325 880066 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is
< 1370814331 162926 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it say "security" in the comment
< 1370814334 838261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370814335 614747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370814347 886992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's where the security goes
< 1370814349 885109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how programs work
< 1370814354 193373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write them and save a little bit left for the security
< 1370814525 15852 :Lumpio_!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi NICK :Lumpio-
< 1370814803 205316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: vanilla Linux chroots are shit for security
< 1370814806 239665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than nothing I suppose
< 1370815189 812025 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, apparently they still use whale oil in soace
< 1370815191 722210 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*space
< 1370815248 303982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon
< 1370815298 786872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah I know
< 1370815301 987078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well I don't know the details
< 1370815305 923197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't any whales in space so we have to bring whale oil from earth, obviously
< 1370815310 478083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it really so bad without a root escalation vuln?
< 1370815347 746515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: these days you have to run a vm inside a vm to get any security
< 1370815366 544668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the security hole I anticipate is on the order of "you get to give input, most likely only one line, to GHCi"
< 1370815386 941224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are lots of ways for a process in a chroot to mess with processes outside a chroot
< 1370815389 866372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ptrace etc
< 1370815395 161188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have /proc mounted
< 1370815397 285761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which worries me a bit
< 1370815401 545085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know how much /proc leaks to another user
< 1370815432 760723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also, I won't die if someone escapes the chroot, they'll end up as an unprivileged user
< 1370815446 504129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at worst they'll read private stuff in my $HOME, which I should probably make not world-readable
< 1370815455 480392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly if they escape it they probably have a root escalation vuln
< 1370815545 855420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: anyway what is your recommendation? run the whole thing in UMLBox?
< 1370815617 239010 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1370815666 39584 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-251.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1370815672 80086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my recommendation is to make yourself fully aware of the risks and then not care about them
< 1370815675 92257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1370815724 933153 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :an easier way is to skip directly to not caring
< 1370815729 115769 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370815738 280043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are both p. good recommendations
< 1370815738 951998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an added bonus, that's usually the state you start out in
< 1370815740 994720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, olsner, olsner
< 1370815746 808170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a way you go about these things
< 1370815748 782011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: UMLBox is cool but UML scares me a bit because it's not used much anymore
< 1370815790 6146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: grsec kernels have enhanced chroots, and there's also the 'namespaces' stuff in Linux (user namespacess, proecess namespacess, etc), and there's http://lxc.sourceforge.net/ and http://openvz.org/Main_Page and such
< 1370815796 809092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could use "real" virtualization
< 1370815804 823187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the area well enough to recommend one over another
< 1370815807 956611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those are some options
< 1370815824 30757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"real" virtualization will protect you from root escalation vulnerabilities, which are common in Linux
< 1370815834 676449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't protect you from hypervisor exploits of course, but \rainbow{defense in depth}
< 1370815912 803141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: these sound like a lot of work
< 1370815918 119397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about I just ask jesus to not let it go wrong
< 1370815934 591925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, theoretically this software is meant to be secure enough to run as-is
< 1370815943 849703 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't trust that half of it wasn't written by a complete bozo
< 1370815969 760274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, my time spent convincing elliott not to trust lambdabot was useful
< 1370816013 461408 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful how exactly? now he's wasting time doing all this security thinking
< 1370816052 77217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't see "defense in depth" without thinking of maginot. is this bad y/n
< 1370816058 385525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my goal is to waste time
< 1370816061 699389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: /
< 1370816067 471657 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370816076 993171 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when I'll start having nostalgia for Cablevision's offices
< 1370816085 143967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you quit
< 1370816118 956838 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370816128 966311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how... what...
< 1370816130 476042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370816132 430926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get fired
< 1370816134 922581 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1370816141 61444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i return to how / what
< 1370816143 526556 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's just thinking ahead.
< 1370816153 851643 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the future one of those two will presumably happen, unless I spend my entire life working there
< 1370816169 450168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Doneike
< 1370816174 99484 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The company could also be destroyed.
< 1370816261 201581 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not sure how much depth you had in mind, but the maginot line was "20 to 25 km" deep according to wikipedia
< 1370816279 80925 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how deep are hypervisors kmc
< 1370816287 103110 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that I do now, in the present day, will eventually become nostalgic for me
< 1370816300 660039 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then again, leaving lots of other options around, such as "take the long way around, attack anyway")
< 1370816301 591315 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming I don't die in the near future
< 1370816310 411410 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could be brain damaged.
< 1370816321 206412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could just not be nostalgic for it.
< 1370816321 693811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: i have sometimes done things and do not feel nostalgic about them. 'what gives'
< 1370816331 54100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow "r u a freak"
< 1370816336 942938 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1370816347 609232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Bike
< 1370816347 827257 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug
< 1370816362 846122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow our lambdabottage is dangerously low
< 1370816375 33234 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370816379 214272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : there's a way you go about these things <-- i surely thought this was a quote (from "yes, prime minister" perhaps?) but i cannot find it
< 1370816383 120731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if sgeo stops being nostalgic about everything and he gets nostalgic about the nostalgia
< 1370816402 265596 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hypervisors seem more fiddly to get right than the normal memory protection and task isolation stuff that general OSes try so hard to get right
< 1370816421 260922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, I didn't think of it as a quote, but the general idea could easily be derived from Yes, (Prime )?Minister
< 1370816448 878911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wheels are in motion.
< 1370816538 89171 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370816566 38960 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370816570 923244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: hello!
< 1370816577 72349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined
< 1370816577 852644 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1370816578 111804 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1370816578 220082 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1370816579 590459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1370816617 69169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix id
< 1370816620 677310 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370816620 785211 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370816632 366279 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  thread killed
< 1370816645 307170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: hey get in line!
< 1370816769 478513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listchans
< 1370816769 570589 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric #mubot
< 1370816769 672407 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :##crypto ##freebsd ##logic ##proggit ##unavailable ##villagegreen #agda #codez #darcs #diagrams #esoteric #fedora-haskell #friendly-coders #functionaljava #gentoo-haskell #gentoo-uy #ghc #happs #
< 1370816769 744369 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here
< 1370816769 744546 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric weird#
< 1370816769 816377 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell #haskell-blah #haskell-books #haskell-br #haskell-fr #haskell-freebsd #haskell-game #haskell-gsoc #haskell-in-depth #haskell-lens #haskell-overflow #haskell-pl #haskell.au #haskell.cz #
< 1370816769 816545 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell.de #haskell.dut #haskell.es #haskell.se #haskell.tw #learnanycomputerlanguage #ledger #macosx #macosxdev #rosettacode #scala #scalaz #scannedinavian #snapframework #tanuki #teamunix #
< 1370816769 816653 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicycling #xmonad #yi weird#
< 1370816769 816762 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here
< 1370816773 751848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @listchans
< 1370816773 861793 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric #mubot
< 1370816774 12170 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here
< 1370816774 774101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1370816813 892572 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#unicycling? i feel betrayed
< 1370816932 238433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh man good old yes minister
< 1370816940 60906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @fortune
< 1370816940 177485 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a card in my hole.
< 1370816943 715804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @yow
< 1370816943 826608 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :And furthermore, my bowling average is unimpeachable!!!
< 1370817026 656386 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370817036 932020 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370817062 505540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 2
< 1370817063 174793 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2
< 1370817063 836919 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2
< 1370817064 184870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2
< 1370817064 863884 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2
< 1370817064 991530 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2
< 1370817065 445183 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  can't find file: L.hs
< 1370817065 557413 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2
< 1370817067 714801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3
< 1370817068 423727 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1370817068 848199 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1370817068 961184 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1370817173 893263 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@asdf
< 1370817174 16483 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who should I ask?
< 1370817174 149975 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `tell' failed with: Prelude.head: empty list
< 1370817174 221712 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `tell' failed with: Prelude.head: empty list
< 1370817184 466062 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wat
< 1370817187 624713 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#unicycling? i feel betrayed
< 1370817191 272919 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@thisistotalgibbeish
< 1370817191 378208 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370817191 490620 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370817191 623255 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370817192 732494 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1370817193 810883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hi
< 1370817196 168713 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine that i said the other thing
< 1370817199 335639 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to @list ?
< 1370817200 542027 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that i meant to say
< 1370817203 589261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which other thing
< 1370817206 500688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817206 605564 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817206 713729 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817206 872750 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817206 944757 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817206 944975 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817207 80525 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817207 152600 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817207 152741 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817207 224543 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817207 224620 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817207 520155 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817207 627124 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817207 736529 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817207 888678 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817208 36572 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817208 577382 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817208 796943 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817208 868930 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817210 676388 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817210 822842 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817210 894858 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?where
< 1370817212 673530 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817214 655366 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817214 900491 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370817216 624164 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817218 692843 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817220 649120 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817222 622827 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817224 619107 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?where.
< 1370817226 641248 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `where' failed with: <>
< 1370817234 480750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi when you do that freenode drops my messages
< 1370817238 230940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in my personal ones
< 1370817238 935079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i got to see the new version recently.  felt nostalgic for the old one.  the new sir Humphrey is so unsympathetic...
< 1370817239 556655 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you fixed it sorry
< 1370817244 764989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even a bug in my bot!
< 1370817247 97717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the other two bots
< 1370817262 3327 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bots are supposed to notice instead of msg when replying, right?
< 1370817262 929651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like practically thes ame
< 1370817271 555575 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah but nobody does that ever
< 1370817284 305975 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :preflex does it but only in some channels
< 1370817383 925320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: ?where+ ?where ?where ?where
< 1370817384 24518 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice!
< 1370817386 817057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth!
< 1370817393 393295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cackles madly

< 1370817399 370522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: ?where+ ?where no ?where
< 1370817399 488928 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice!
< 1370817402 531618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1370817424 860284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey what do you have against exponential blowup you scounderl
< 1370817429 349121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*scoundrel
< 1370817430 902428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scounderl
< 1370817442 939361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there's anything exponential about it hth
< 1370817446 947909 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there is
< 1370817477 349001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: with 3 bots there is hth
< 1370817600 607480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does it drop _your_ messages
< 1370817607 540101 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same connection probably
< 1370817624 731005 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i do ?where ?where again will it not spam
< 1370817627 483369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have two nicks on the same connection?
< 1370817634 782312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes it will
< 1370817665 461421 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370817780 29692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There's a new version?
< 1370817789 218717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because same connection
< 1370817790 981519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in
< 1370817792 19378 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same IP
< 1370817803 967912 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because otherwise you could just run 100 spambots on the same server
< 1370817813 145169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have them each say one line
< 1370817823 158380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: or an old one, dependent on which one you actually know :P
< 1370817918 530488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah the new one is apparently very new, from this year
< 1370818012 228387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was the favourite television programme of the then Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Margaret Thatcher."
< 1370818104 391920 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370818146 100563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good lambdabot bug
< 1370818192 556810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘The public,' said Sir Humphrey, ‘do not know anything about wasting public money. We are the experts.'
< 1370818210 152276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1370818210 756559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘We'll have to do an O & M,' I said. [Organisation and Method Study - Ed.] ‘See how many we can do without.'
< 1370818214 141098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :‘We did one of those last year,' said Sir Humphrey blandly. ‘And we discovered we needed another five hundred people. However, Minister, we could always close your Bureaucratic Watchdog Department.'1
< 1370818301 769015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I reported it
< 1370818313 335623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoorelliott
< 1370818572 875391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At last Humphrey decided to make his meaning clear. ‘When the chips are down, Minister, and the balloon goes up and the lights go out . . . there has to be somewhere to carry on government, even if everything else stops.’
< 1370818576 883752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I considered this carefully for a few moments. ‘Why?’ I asked.
< 1370818579 442543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humphrey appeared to be absolutely staggered by this question. He explained to me, as if I were a backward five-year-old, ‘Government doesn’t stop merely because the country’s been destroyed. Annihilation is bad enough, without anarchy to make it even worse.’
< 1370818805 65066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370818898 312255 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370818923 511028 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370818929 399746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our long dark days of fungotlessness are over!
< 1370818929 728199 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: times change, and 2 for fnord
< 1370818938 321064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So appropriate.
< 1370818953 974462 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome fungot
< 1370818954 651692 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: some cases, it can be avoided. the contents are in ascii?
< 1370818956 375706 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1370818957 267614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1370818957 375639 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1370818968 636184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style qwantz
< 1370818968 708261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: qwantz (Dinosaur Comics transcriptions 2003-2011)
< 1370818980 701349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot
< 1370818981 764697 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: never!! kids will be boarding the train to scarytowne at my own pace, dromiceiomimus. we look happy. look, i'm going to the docks right syntax to get ourselves moving. no thanks, chuckles, but there's a rude jerk, and then they both said the next few days were going to me, the omniscient. the dude has to sleep! superman could laser him from orbit while he's having nappy times! enter only if you have a valid passport to
< 1370819089 397584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def where ul (@where @where)S
< 1370819098 337125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record: I was away (France, Switzerland, very briefly Italy) for June 4th through (late) June 9th, so of course the ISP handling my home decided to mangle ("yeah, the routing info is all wrong, provisioned to the wrong port" said the 24/7 support guy when I called an hour ago) the connection around noon of June 4th.
< 1370819101 649540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1370819107 464920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show where
< 1370819112 23206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:04  I JUST WANT TO XOR TWO INTEGERS
< 1370819112 278635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:04  OR CHARS
< 1370819114 591839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh.
< 1370819120 483435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: look what these challenges have brought to us
< 1370819126 563509 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your ISP has support guys who know what routing info is?
< 1370819126 671334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;'(
< 1370819139 743660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor is Hard, man
< 1370819140 246308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a PROJECT EULER but for CRYPTOGRAPHY
< 1370819142 180938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you don't seem well
< 1370819142 659178 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this cabin is a front! and maybe on the back sometimes that i am a good friend, t-rex, but i already do! i have a friend, of my own age, you get to call all these " dog days" of summer.
< 1370819145 148833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Apparently the night staff doesn't involve any first-tier support people.
< 1370819146 625086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help
< 1370819146 734865 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def   ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
< 1370819147 682275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerkcity version: I JUST WANT TO XOR TWO INTEGERS / OR COCKS
< 1370819148 404097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show
< 1370819148 813390 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping 
< 1370819151 403514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show where
< 1370819151 764409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow
< 1370819151 874176 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having a tax-deductible experience!  I need an energy crunch!!
< 1370819151 986148 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find fortune file
< 1370819152 98080 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this an out-take from the "BRADY BUNCH"?
< 1370819158 804368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are going at warp 10 here
< 1370819160 601482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow
< 1370819160 717981 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know WHY I said that ... I think it came from the FILLINGS in
< 1370819160 831567 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :my read molars ...
< 1370819160 903923 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find fortune file
< 1370819160 980230 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you still an ALCOHOLIC?
< 1370819161 446427 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this cabin is a front! and maybe on the back sometimes" not bad
< 1370819163 479714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def where ul (@where @where)S
< 1370819163 551639 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1370819166 844725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ETOOMANYBOTS
< 1370819169 687723 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1370819172 949010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENOTENOUGHBOTS
< 1370819173 232526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It was The Usual Bug.
< 1370819178 62081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "hi fungot"
< 1370819178 294802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote
< 1370819178 395708 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: me! i do. " merry? you're poor enough, i could get a completely different adult down, so the whole deal into my computer's cd tray!
< 1370819178 467807 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes yet.
< 1370819178 540471 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :geekoid says: the problem with wikipedia is that it works in practice, but not in theory.
< 1370819178 540631 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Miod says: [On the vax] How many processors come with a built-in instruction which computes polynomials of degrees up to 31?
< 1370819178 783062 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  hi fungot
< 1370819178 893798 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: and i, my friends, is the malaise of the glutton at life's buffet, building complicaters? domino frustraters? wobbley times u.s.a.? um, maybe if i told his jokes lately
< 1370819179 313337 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  hi fungot
< 1370819179 385137 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  hi fungot
< 1370819179 626744 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: more so than usual, t-rex, that going shopping was your default activity? we'd never get anything you want, but want what you do. it's so easy, but nobody's that impressed when you tell them you think they're dating the wrong person?
< 1370819185 631564 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god, pure ideology
< 1370819204 8597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://sprunge.us/XTSO as seen by fungot.
< 1370819204 512532 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but t-rex, you can't play the game optimally! and assuming that in a man... or a woman, dromiceiomimus!
< 1370819210 810599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def where ul (@where @nowhere)S
< 1370819210 932540 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1370819211 146031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot your tongue?
< 1370819211 382046 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to the last, i will grapple with thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee! from hell's heart, i stab at thee
< 1370819228 383034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fungot wants to stab shachaf
< 1370819228 751431 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shac:elliott: that you all for them, i have come up with a new saddest thing ever!!... which is also nice, until a really attractive friend of theirs shows, interviews, documentaries about me, make new friends, and start a life of lies?
< 1370819229 553420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a hunch
< 1370819233 376399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice "shac:elliott:"
< 1370819237 382903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @where+ @nowhere @where @somewhere
< 1370819237 601355 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know.
< 1370819250 479709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @where+ @somewhere @where @where
< 1370819250 625075 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is forever etched in my memory.
< 1370819258 651261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1370819300 317304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @where+ @where ^where @where
< 1370819300 549431 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will remember.
< 1370819312 339899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that right
< 1370819318 322952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, horribly wrong)
< 1370819322 788601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1370819327 490569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch
< 1370819329 178424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like looking at someone setting up one of those domino piece things.
< 1370819345 953717 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaq:elliott:
< 1370819363 525983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @where+ @somewhere ^where @where
< 1370819363 644414 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will never forget.
< 1370819376 671547 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370819400 671868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah i'm hopelessly confused now
< 1370819407 353841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1370819411 787475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell isn't this working
< 1370819413 877934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be confused
< 1370819428 551277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1370819460 50325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ^where
< 1370819467 186964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek
< 1370819476 626861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370819478 912009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so doing something like @where @nowhere or ^where will start a new botloop?
< 1370819480 927135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show where
< 1370819481 41178 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@where @nowhere)S
< 1370819510 953882 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370819555 597889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @where+ @where @where @nowhere
< 1370819555 733715 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice!
< 1370819575 963626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def where ul (@where @where)S
< 1370819576 79985 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1370819598 216368 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370819600 926468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok here goes
< 1370819607 620265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy
< 1370819608 59042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where anything, really?
< 1370819608 210050 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where @where
< 1370819608 281948 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @where.
< 1370819608 433496 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where @nowhere
< 1370819608 506002 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where @where
< 1370819620 178074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek
< 1370819675 801090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1370819686 961756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot adds a space... D:
< 1370819716 705166 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't add a space last time though?
< 1370819717 960930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn bugfixes ;_;
< 1370819755 371513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG I RUINED IT
< 1370819842 768980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it special-cases @.
< 1370819844 33228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not ?.
< 1370819943 114091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370819943 264972 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370819953 4448 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370819955 811438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3
< 1370819956 396673 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1370819956 941459 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1370819957 12897 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1370819965 389935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf. it suddenly started working
< 1370819967 174786 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3
< 1370820073 940989 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370820085 9935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's true!
< 1370820136 134888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @where+ @where ?where ?nowhere
< 1370820136 364756 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will never forget.
< 1370820173 71068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @where+ ?nowhere ?where @somewhere
< 1370820173 335731 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370820173 407624 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1370820181 137819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where whataboutnow
< 1370820181 247161 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where @where
< 1370820181 393149 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @where.
< 1370820181 522655 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?nowhere
< 1370820181 642202 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where @where
< 1370820181 714083 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?nowhere.
< 1370820181 787143 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where @somewhere
< 1370820181 859046 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where @where
< 1370820181 969257 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where @where
< 1370820182 41011 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @somewhere.
< 1370820182 113102 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @where.
< 1370820182 185003 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where @where
< 1370820182 301009 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?nowhere
< 1370820182 399476 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?nowhere.
< 1370820182 640862 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where @somewhere
< 1370820182 907760 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @somewhere.
< 1370820183 445889 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where @where
< 1370820183 557458 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where @where
< 1370820183 766395 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?nowhere
< 1370820183 909538 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where @where
< 1370820184 51656 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where @somewhere
< 1370820184 284653 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @somewhere.
< 1370820185 435023 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @where.
< 1370820185 767011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh
< 1370820187 375688 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?nowhere.
< 1370820189 356641 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where @where
< 1370820189 465136 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where @where
< 1370820189 683474 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?nowhere
< 1370820189 793860 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where @where
< 1370820190 69626 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where @somewhere
< 1370820190 168156 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @somewhere.
< 1370820191 419816 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @where.
< 1370820191 529198 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't me!
< 1370820193 387633 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?nowhere.
< 1370820195 360070 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where @where
< 1370820195 468117 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where @where
< 1370820195 722213 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?nowhere
< 1370820195 871763 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where @where
< 1370820195 980342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where+ ?nowhere nope
< 1370820196 52314 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where @somewhere
< 1370820196 128241 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @somewhere.
< 1370820197 441615 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @where.
< 1370820199 450886 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about ?nowhere.
< 1370820201 133354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where+ ?nowhere nope
< 1370820201 351633 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay.
< 1370820201 423519 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice!
< 1370820201 496138 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :^where @where
< 1370820201 496305 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where @where
< 1370820201 679599 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?where ?nowhere
< 1370820201 803417 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : @where @where
< 1370820202 7112 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1370820203 490468 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1370820205 396158 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about @where.
< 1370820207 470878 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1370820322 814319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: T 1
< 1370820326 277493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: :t 1
< 1370820351 209180 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370820360 978991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked!
< 1370820377 401864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume.  hard to tell in that mess.
< 1370820413 208006 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like if lambdabot knew about @somewhere and mubot about ?nowhere, it would've worked more
< 1370820419 769055 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but for real why do we have all these bots
< 1370820428 3175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have lambdabot because lambdabot is great
< 1370820430 288958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have kappabot because of shachaf
< 1370820432 211285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have mubot because of me
< 1370820441 69942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? easily explained.
< 1370820441 793751 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you and shachaf suck?
< 1370820461 946659 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370820480 272417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearing the omega point
< 1370820527 236264 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370820536 554538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey, no skipping greek letters!
< 1370820637 314783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1370820663 974892 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370820670 598381 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370820675 18802 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott hi
< 1370820675 132007 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820675 239537 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820675 311956 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820686 59768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages?
< 1370820686 179553 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
< 1370820686 278564 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg kappabot @messages' to read it.
< 1370820690 69676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages
< 1370820690 208202 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared.
< 1370820690 280149 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared.
< 1370820690 352141 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared.
< 1370820692 957713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, why did mubot not respond?
< 1370820709 307230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: can you try @messages?
< 1370820725 606079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:31:26  You have 1 new message. '/msg mubot @messages' to read it.
< 1370820726 598701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1370820729 380669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott test
< 1370820729 485339 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself!
< 1370820729 633596 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself!
< 1370820729 705494 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell yourself!
< 1370820729 778021 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is tempted to @@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo, but he won’t.

< 1370820731 265991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh
< 1370820733 779426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: can you @tell me something
< 1370820744 158995 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott something
< 1370820744 271338 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820744 376895 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820744 448851 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820747 535401 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott The computer says no.
< 1370820747 607277 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820747 678979 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820747 679141 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820747 907263 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott this is stupid
< 1370820747 979336 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820748 126835 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820748 198874 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820750 223557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1370820750 333065 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo said 6s ago: something
< 1370820750 333266 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo said 6s ago: something
< 1370820750 441846 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion said 3s ago: The computer says no.
< 1370820750 513880 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike said 2s ago: this is stupid
< 1370820750 585437 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion said 3s ago: The computer says no.
< 1370820750 585603 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike said 3s ago: this is stupid
< 1370820755 557876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1370820759 26499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot responds in private
< 1370820772 759247 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i'm using memoserv from now on
< 1370820864 974518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @tell Bike you can restrict it to one bot hth
< 1370820865 123162 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370820879 496330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d7
< 1370820879 607284 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 2
< 1370820882 200220 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice.
< 1370820897 190500 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: tell ion Is a redundant command prefix needed?
< 1370820905 901102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 3
< 1370820919 643651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, not even @roll or something?
< 1370820919 792190 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
< 1370820923 147322 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: fuck yourself
< 1370820931 392554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um you want to have commands with no prefix?
< 1370820941 890308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :14d57
< 1370820941 998639 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 390
< 1370820943 951031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this is in the default git lambdabot.
< 1370820945 926341 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my doing!
< 1370820948 142570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d7 1d7
< 1370820950 398426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1370820958 467407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it only works when your entire message is a roll
< 1370820959 529085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it seems ok
< 1370820963 680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :234
< 1370820964 699678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :238913
< 1370820970 261415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do people play D&D with lambda bot
< 1370820970 844719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how do i get this fucking numberwang plugin to trigger
< 1370820996 10057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@numberwang 7
< 1370820996 115538 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370820996 225789 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370820996 297223 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370821000 916504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1370821002 259697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not loaded
< 1370821003 558531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370821046 124584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @nazi-on
< 1370821046 237191 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi engaged.
< 1370821049 911212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlep
< 1370821050 168704 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean help, hep or Heep?
< 1370821057 161844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, stupidest bot mode ever
< 1370821059 47246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @nazi-on
< 1370821059 118997 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean lambda bot, lambda-bot, lambda, lambdas or lambda's?
< 1370821059 191055 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi engaged.
< 1370821064 73990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @nazi-on
< 1370821064 222496 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean kappa bot, kappa-bot, jabot, Cabot or kaput?
< 1370821064 354846 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi engaged.
< 1370821072 419794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to die.
< 1370821079 503847 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :numberwang
< 1370821079 613368 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean numbering, numbing, Nibelung, numbness or Namibian?
< 1370821079 833357 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean numbering, numberings or numbing?
< 1370821079 978951 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean numbering or lumbering's?
< 1370821095 392042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they say: don't be stupid / be a smarty / come on and join the nazi party.
< 1370821097 368586 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i even ask why they're all distinct. or why mubot responded twice.
< 1370821097 586580 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean mu bot, mu-bot, Minot, bot or mot?
< 1370821097 696969 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean mu bot, mu-bot, Minot, bot or mot?
< 1370821102 136688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numberings
< 1370821102 255684 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean Numbering or Lumbering's?
< 1370821107 548954 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good job, mubot.
< 1370821107 698547 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean mu bot, mu-bot, Minot, bot or mot?
< 1370821107 808294 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean mu bot, mu-bot, Minot, bot or mot?
< 1370821110 438662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you.
< 1370821113 713091 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :appelsiinit päähän
< 1370821114 172104 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean appellant, applicant, opalescent, adolescent or Appleseed?
< 1370821116 490780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should leave these on forever
< 1370821127 165290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate you. I hate life. I hate everything
< 1370821128 565265 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nazi-on is channel-specific?
< 1370821128 670756 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean Nazi, Nazis, NZ, Nair or naif?
< 1370821128 779241 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean Nazi, Nazis, Nani, Nari or Nazi's?
< 1370821128 929563 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean Nan, Mani, Bani, Nazi or Nan's?
< 1370821132 959693 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i hate you
< 1370821133 69838 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean Elliott, Elliot, Eliot, Elliott's or Elliot's?
< 1370821133 297042 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean Elliott, Elliot, Eliot, Ellette or Elliott's?
< 1370821133 405296 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean Elliott, Elate, Elite, Elliot or Gillette?
< 1370821137 175267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nazi-off
< 1370821137 286696 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi disengaged.
< 1370821137 358619 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi disengaged.
< 1370821137 430059 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi disengaged.
< 1370821137 430229 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D
< 1370821156 333546 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it seems like actually no
< 1370821160 668695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also it seems like lambdabot didn't respond to any of it
< 1370821168 256719 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol.
< 1370821173 177220 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, indeed.
< 1370821175 585339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1370821175 692433 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1370821175 801892 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages.
< 1370821175 949713 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages.
< 1370821180 676462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hth
< 1370821186 331431 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'I feel lonely'
< 1370821186 643507 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: +-------------+
< 1370821186 715199 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: |I feel lonely|
< 1370821186 715281 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: +-------------+
< 1370821253 932314 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you mean massages, messengers, messuages or missayings?
< 1370821278 583843 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see. clog, egobot, fungot, glogbot, glogbackup, HackEgo, jconn, kappabot, lambdabot, mubot. that's a lotta bots.
< 1370821278 972642 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you in this house, god? i am: up next, we have a man who is a push-over. besides, their interiors are scaled for adults with problems! everybody likes bears, with post dessert?
< 1370821290 852289 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're like 1/7 bots.
< 1370821323 25257 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if bots will take over the channel from humans one day?
< 1370821550 388486 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make lambdabot run newStdGen when mueval is invoked and pass the result as a pure value to the mueval environment. (I probably can’t be arsed even to install a local lambdabot instance, not to mention hacking on it.)
< 1370821586 9340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: isn't access to quickcheck and OEIS enough for you?
< 1370821702 538424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey onbotti and metasepia aren't here
< 1370821720 473062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370821720 601454 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370821726 247831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait oonbotti is
< 1370821744 481601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoterm
< 1370821751 863072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric
< 1370821751 973586 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here
< 1370821758 963607 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370821765 245913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why it responds to the channel name
< 1370821776 144549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric q
< 1370821776 291818 :oonbotti!~oonbotti@91-145-118-87.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing here
< 1370821789 582762 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a statement about ni hil ism
< 1370821794 236820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell
< 1370821806 252861 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##bestiality
< 1370821822 286691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bestiality is the best, it's in the name
< 1370822063 968047 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1370822280 446792 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370822350 873404 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370822509 221100 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370823054 490061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for fuck's sake there are MULTIPLE fast fourier transforms!
< 1370823071 315280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 fast 2 fourier
< 1370823130 130855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++
< 1370823144 899072 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :<>
< 1370823155 30650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF X <> Y THEN GOTO 20
< 1370823201 281918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF ⪓ Y THEN GOTO 20
< 1370823218 359728 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that thing eat the "X" D:
< 1370823226 13261 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does roger penrose... age?
< 1370823226 922159 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LESS-THAN ABOVE SLANTED EQUAL ABOVE GREATER-THAN ABOVE SLANTED EQUAL
< 1370823252 33032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse lost the X
< 1370823260 943953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have two slanted equals so pretend they overlap
< 1370823269 713558 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: probably not
< 1370823315 3431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you should tweet "2 Fast 2 Fourier" and I will retweet it and then we will both become more popular on the Internet
< 1370823321 624753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. important
< 1370823326 565028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you should retweet my tweets
< 1370823343 343526 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my last tweet was uh, a report on the US food stamp program
< 1370823347 693428 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta keep up the theme!!!
< 1370823348 92444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i retweeted all of your tweets shachaf
< 1370823356 270577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you haven't retweeted any of them
< 1370823360 346442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also true
< 1370823376 506842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: for every tweet shachaf made, you didn't retweet t
< 1370823378 384389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it
< 1370823392 727122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not bring quantification into this, we're all friends here
< 1370823405 864029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you (haven't retweeted) all of them, *and* you haven't (retweeted any of them)
< 1370823476 212051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi
< 1370823477 457663 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1370823481 933430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :miusf
< 1370823506 367870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main is usually sometimes functional
< 1370823517 867697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :main is usually san francisco
< 1370823555 506460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't i get to the logs...
< 1370823558 12956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::=D
< 1370823583 450557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WFM
< 1370823597 273935 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : I,I We'll surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an ^Borange^O.
< 1370828049 934172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:08:15:  Is that a monkey island quote
< 1370828050 6004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:08:24:  and what the FUCK is I,I
< 1370828050 6094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:08:27:  stop that shit.
< 1370828050 6138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:08:43:  i literally heard that in guybrush's voice jesus
< 1370828076 285911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's just an owl face calm down man
< 1370828078 78054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine
< 1370828081 858302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an awful memory okay
< 1370828099 46703 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sings* i i i i
< 1370828117 345613 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so ungoogleable ugh
< 1370828120 638020 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was in a commercial
< 1370828825 659917 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370828855 179134 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370829108 181227 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1370829114 641742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mubot: @quit
< 1370829114 753353 :mubot!Debian-exi@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370829630 998198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ate too much candy
< 1370829632 641554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :again
< 1370829653 290482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they have to make it so goddamn tasty :'(
< 1370829831 923835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm about to do something exciting
< 1370830081 977274 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370830103 969561 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1370831062 846894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh?
< 1370831102 176853 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry it's secret
< 1370831119 772677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370831122 483491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck
< 1370831141 526531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thmc i couldn't do it without you
< 1370831369 73800 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I could say the same thing about sushi
< 1370831380 267821 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they have to make it so /good/
< 1370831400 254868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1370831408 370707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the answer to both is: personal vendetta
< 1370831420 303901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta apologise to the person in the candy and/or sushi factory
< 1370831535 320760 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way that I deal with it is the ralph's is like, half a mile out of the way
< 1370831539 587308 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have to put *effort* into buying sushi
< 1370831543 562662 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I make sure only to buy one
< 1370831566 255305 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the rules for sushi. set a budget. set a time limit. always go all in
< 1370831572 544113 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then later when I'm "I want more" I can't get more
< 1370831575 367165 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like with ice cream
< 1370831580 262777 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to not buy chocolate ice cream at the store
< 1370831594 929343 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an inhuman feat to not eat it when it's sitting in the freezer and I'm feeling awful
< 1370831649 789809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true that
< 1370831659 425849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem: delivery sushi
< 1370831670 723721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think delivery sushi is one of those habits that can rapidly consume all of one's money
< 1370831673 761775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like cocaine
< 1370831684 468339 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have delivery sushi?  oh no :/
< 1370831691 273175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look what i've done
< 1370831707 985513 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay though, having to use a phone to order sushi is bad and painful enough that I wouldn't do it
< 1370831709 370397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even order delivery sushi over the internet without talking to a person
< 1370831712 409357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1370831714 839167 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh no
< 1370831724 305335 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc you monster
< 1370831728 221905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1370831730 940234 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have delivery candy "revenge"
< 1370831731 938463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then there's like awkward person knocking on my door oh god what do I do
< 1370831734 640629 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is entrapment
< 1370831743 690563 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "no, they deliver it by UAV"
< 1370831752 203908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: in the "special instructions" field put that they should set the sushi down, ring the bell, and run away
< 1370831758 213209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*PFFF*
< 1370831765 338465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :home alone 2 style
< 1370831775 146547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe home alone 1 style?!?!? did not see
< 1370831780 212400 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair it would be cool if it was like, ups style?
< 1370831785 304845 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where they knock, drop it off, and leave
< 1370831794 93657 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you're like "oh! sushi!"  and there's sushi
< 1370831800 552882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't answer they put a sticky note on your door and try to deliver the same sushi again the next day
< 1370831814 328081 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmccccccccc
< 1370831817 987154 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terribleeee
< 1370831818 790594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't get it the next day you can drive down to the warehouse district and pick up your 3 day old sushi
< 1370831824 937267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc you're an enabler
< 1370831826 636610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wcpgw
< 1370831828 857905 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION flailing

< 1370831838 345517 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370831847 69590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's how it should have gone  but then there's like awkward person knocking on my door oh god what do I do   good point. it is impossible to effectively use delivery sushi and you should forget about it
< 1370831852 508902 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :enabler?  more like excellent
< 1370831879 794350 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I just have to like.  eat less food the rest of the day, then I can eat more sushi
< 1370831881 332621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :last saturday i was in san francisco and super hung over and delivery sushi was my salvation
< 1370831883 854355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how kmc remembers he's seen home alone 2 and not home alone 1
< 1370831891 201882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even mentally tell the home alone films apart at all
< 1370831895 507328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just all one blob of home alone
< 1370831898 493441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second one was in new york
< 1370831903 572287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one was in.... home
< 1370831906 176073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they were all in new york.
< 1370831909 478033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  i think delivery sushi is one of those habits that can rapidly consume all of one's money   like cocaine
< 1370831913 501494 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1050)  i think delivery sushi is one of those habits that can rapidly consume all of one's money   like cocaine
< 1370831932 7724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no in the first one they go to Paris and leave him at home in Illinois
< 1370831952 265713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the second one they go to Miami and he goes to New York instead for some reason
< 1370831965 450647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah basically the same things happen in each film
< 1370831972 29164 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :home alone 2: not actually in a home??
< 1370831972 623720 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could eat like, sushi in the morning, and then sushi in the evening.  a balanced diet
< 1370831982 71948 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe a yogurt
< 1370831986 868994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there was Home Alone 3 with different characters and director and different, terrible plot
< 1370831987 195300 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about home alone 3
< 1370831989 22136 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the five major food groups. fish, rice, other fish
< 1370831989 765886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370831994 168414 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might have seen that one
< 1370831997 311520 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sushi has vegetables too!
< 1370832000 995860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the plots to all of them terrible
< 1370832004 58637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm pretty sure I enjoyed it as a kid too
< 1370832006 188830 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rice a vegetable
< 1370832010 743689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like let's face it
< 1370832012 802609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no
< 1370832014 6420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're watching home alone for one reason
< 1370832027 958091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure everything that grows in the ground should be considered a vegetable
< 1370832039 350603 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean do we really need all these categories
< 1370832039 956618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see Joe Pesci get hit in the balls?
< 1370832048 624510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that seems like a fair summary, yes
< 1370832054 108376 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also before you ask water counts as ground, so rice and also fish are vegetables
< 1370832068 604411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the kid in Home Alone has a name similar to mine
< 1370832075 112697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess in middle school people thought this was interesting
< 1370832079 315768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then everyone forgot about it
< 1370832087 934192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they spell it McCallister though
< 1370832089 326797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :home alone is sort of like pornography except, like, it's adults getting slapsticked by a kid instead. i'm just sayin'
< 1370832089 653926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the un-cool wayp
< 1370832095 126676 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: avocado (technically a fruit but a culinary vegetable right?) and cucumber and stuff
< 1370832101 425350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did people really care about home alone in middle school
< 1370832104 199993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do i want to know what kind of pornography you watch (no, I do not want to know)
< 1370832113 98296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: home alone 1, 2, 3, 4 (is there a home alone 4)
< 1370832122 820365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :home alone 7
< 1370832130 406165 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also really wahtever it has eel and eel is the best fish
< 1370832134 938135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alone at home (modernised reboot of the series)
< 1370832140 541805 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean corn is a grain
< 1370832142 973493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dark, gritty reboot
< 1370832145 105802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that's insane
< 1370832146 758118 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :other fish don't really need to exist because.  eel
< 1370832153 895741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :directed by j j j j j abrams
< 1370832155 992031 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what oarfish taste like
< 1370832157 458287 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bad"
< 1370832162 222183 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or vampire squid
< 1370832164 975855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kevin McCallister kills the robbers and is tried as an adult
< 1370832169 14335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does life
< 1370832173 220920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should eat vampire squid calimari somehow
< 1370832192 298879 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkbb05cDR-Y
< 1370832198 527092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original Home Alone movies exist within the universe of this film and are revealed as a callous attempt to cash in on his tragedy
< 1370832200 289668 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nostalgia time
< 1370832200 379310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but he breaks out and enacts his revenge, so it ends up basically identical to all the others except he's like 40
< 1370832213 419225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1370832218 344935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Home Alone meets Natural Born Killers
< 1370832219 757377 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds more like Sin City than Home Alone
< 1370832225 504058 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could go for that honestly
< 1370832234 408505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural Born Killers is a p. cool film
< 1370832235 217995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also (twist) he does it in THEIR home
< 1370832246 690435 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdn.justonecookbook.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Unagi-Don-II.jpg   oh no I'm hungry  now
< 1370832249 989164 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet wikipedia has "List of animals featuring external asymmetry"
< 1370832251 998130 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new cookbook
< 1370832257 77930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and when it ends the villains say "we were just sitting there -- ALONE AT HOME -- ..."
< 1370832263 148402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my work is done
< 1370832264 456597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: nommm
< 1370832265 931469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are my royalties
< 1370832273 11292 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you bastard
< 1370832283 83807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeeeeeeeels
< 1370832285 765005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i've never had sushi in my life
< 1370832289 78059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :felt like this is relevant
< 1370832296 549280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :polyopisthocotylean monogeneans, sounds legit
< 1370832298 285124 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1370832299 462537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tasty
< 1370832301 933428 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are missing out so much
< 1370832302 81081 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :legitly taste
< 1370832311 624734 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I know right
< 1370832311 775726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely they have sushi in hexham
< 1370832323 819903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no horses, no sushi. these be the laws of hexham
< 1370832323 892293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370832331 703392 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you eat horse
< 1370832333 951526 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unagi sauce and eel and everything and now I want to go over to the japanese food shop and grab some eel and okay no fifi don't do that
< 1370832336 253228 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it's good
< 1370832348 701144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike i literally just told you the laws of hexham
< 1370832367 353183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370832371 392238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean: St Sushi, 114 Westgate Rd, City Centre, Newcastle upon Tyne, Tyne and Wear NE1 4AQ, UK
< 1370832378 428916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want from me bike!!
< 1370832381 702648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but thanks google
< 1370832389 49531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the festival of St. Sushi
< 1370832426 19265 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your search for sushi near hexham, UK did not match any locations."
< 1370832428 523452 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that even possible?
< 1370832435 971599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you should hitchhike to Newcastle upon Tyne and get sushi
< 1370832438 332332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are a land untouched by modernity and sanity
< 1370832448 87002 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i thought maybe you meant like horses for riding
< 1370832450 965669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you eat like boiled sheep's liver or what
< 1370832453 154333 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably spoiled by californi
< 1370832455 527140 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*california
< 1370832473 148923 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: were you here earlier? hexham has a car store called Hexham Horseless Carriages
< 1370832478 439766 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@
< 1370832484 109895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: newcastle is kind of big and scary!
< 1370832487 965511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a town untouched by the mists of time, except for people founding car stores with stupid names in 1996
< 1370832489 107953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (it was founded in 1996)
< 1370832491 998954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the car store that is
< 1370832493 28365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you'll never get sushi with that attitude
< 1370832510 452235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should try a different tack
< 1370832515 906901 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :britain is very thalassocratic isn't it
< 1370832520 161016 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not try some native british sushi
< 1370832531 800543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we can do a kickstarter to pay some sushi restaurant in newcastle to deliver to hexham
< 1370832544 839968 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean you probably call it something stupid like Fishmeat Pie but still
< 1370832569 106246 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I guess it makes sense statistically that I'm in california and not a place where japanese people don't exist or somethng)
< 1370832571 367017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha fishmeat pie is exactly what we'd call it
< 1370832574 100258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything about british fish except that if you catch a sturgeon it's legally the property of the Queen
< 1370832598 908528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i bet we have like 3 japanese people in hexham
< 1370832609 649629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3!
< 1370832612 766812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up "thalassocracy"

< 1370832634 917389 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain is applying the anthropic principle to the location where I'm born ;_;
< 1370832649 621015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i grew up in Iowa
< 1370832662 523569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :california actually invented for the purpose of getting fiora addicted to sushi, new NSA leaks confirm
< 1370832670 723422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there weren't many japanese people
< 1370832674 557959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were a lot of bosnians
< 1370832677 813535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were refugees
< 1370832683 770270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess decided to move to the place least like bosnia
< 1370832699 641378 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i have no idea what the local immigrant community's food is like (except for some candy i had once)
< 1370832703 518307 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mebbe i should check that out
< 1370832769 66552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tree_map_export_2009_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina.jpeg
< 1370832859 846162 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: more like "odds are unlikely someone with a japanese parent would be born in a location where they do not exist" :p
< 1370832975 743449 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, delicious unclassified transactions
< 1370832986 180580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have been born, like, on the border.
< 1370832992 507836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying. it's possible
< 1370833004 322418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the... the border with what
< 1370833070 798473 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://londonfood.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/dsc00017.jpg what i'm picturing as british sushi, btw
< 1370833100 636 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :border between hexham and california
< 1370833110 981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: omg
< 1370833125 340070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the famous hexham-california line
< 1370833164 443707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1370833193 235465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stargazy pie, it's the best (i assume)
< 1370833244 395523 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The dish is traditionally held to have originated from the village of Mousehole /ˈmaʊzəl/ in Cornwall and is traditionally eaten during the festival of Tom Bawcock's Eve to celebrate his heroic catch during a very stormy winter" pretty much what i imagine every british food is like
< 1370833250 29342 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's cornish but hey whatever.
< 1370833329 530800 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_(swan)
< 1370833341 447240 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is amazing XD
< 1370833344 924832 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, it's so british
< 1370833539 329354 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to unicode: "The fact that there are some 3.5×10^12 strings so generated, is clear evidence that this regular expression is not intended as a poor man's spell checker"
< 1370833620 414150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally include a python program for generating a regex used to sort strings
< 1370833627 19371 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the regex is over a page long
< 1370833634 963705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::psyduck:
< 1370833682 130877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it uses globals() that seems like a less than good idea
< 1370833689 298571 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370833727 88165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote this code the other day:
< 1370833727 781531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for k,v in msg_types.items(): globals()[v.upper()] = k
< 1370833753 45806 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370833796 95533 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, in serious production code/
< 1370833796 815996 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1370833862 984494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell no
< 1370833877 61210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you know rust yet
< 1370833953 413532 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1fzwrn/everyone_please_be_patient_ujij_will_address_your/ this is the sort of thread I'd expect in /r/circlejerk
< 1370833962 31413 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370834056 74709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no
< 1370834065 278427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read some of pcwalton's blog posts
< 1370834066 513830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that helps
< 1370834089 962747 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370834142 907465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear they don't have higher-kinded types(???)
< 1370834193 113803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak
< 1370834240 174796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you better add monads to the browser
< 1370834260 680075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads mo problems
< 1370834465 41206 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370834530 859672 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok it does like e(ur'foo$bar') where foo is a function that replaces $xxx with the content of the global variable called that
< 1370834538 197217 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked the author up and they're a perl programmer
< 1370834545 427788 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :linguists, right?
< 1370834553 676202 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1370834653 928161 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370834955 131917 :augur!~augur@c-69-138-251-193.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370835166 319242 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.unicode.org/notes/tn28/ the anti-kmc?
< 1370835183 918000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy
< 1370835239 277192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.marksimonson.com/notebook/view/how-to-spot-arial here you all need to learn how to distinguish the expensive pretentious swiss font from the nearly identical version that is available to mere mortals
< 1370835296 153412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry kmc but arial just looks wrong ok!!
< 1370835331 171013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get a tshirt that says "Helvetica" in Arial
< 1370835337 524165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in comic sans
< 1370835344 424858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that exists
< 1370835348 323366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm p. sure it does
< 1370835353 510237 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helvetica in arial is more subtle
< 1370835355 28508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tshirts that don't exist are so much cooler
< 1370835360 334803 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really shows what a fucking nerd you are more effectively
< 1370835363 887541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is
< 1370835383 473362 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is t his post real
< 1370835384 446127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people will just think you're wearing a shirt with "Helvetica" on it and if they recognise the typeface at all they'll think you're wearing a shirt with "Helvetica" in Helvetica on it
< 1370835390 232102 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure this blog actualy exists
< 1370835394 60063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to those people
< 1370835397 454106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will be the biggest douchebag on the planet
< 1370835413 930505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370835416 729147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arial’s ubiquity is not due to its beauty. It’s actually rather homely. Not that homeliness is necessarily a bad thing for a typeface. With typefaces, character and history are just as important. Arial, however, has a rather dubious history and not much character. In fact, Arial is little more than a shameless impostor.
< 1370835423 254019 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not understand type people. at all.
< 1370835431 736264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then they'll see that I have a ThinkPad and not a Macbook
< 1370835458 911734 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, so not a fan of Haskell?
< 1370835464 142120 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ducks

< 1370835471 551767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo.
< 1370835473 615064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
< 1370835474 854250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap Sgeo
< 1370835475 110223 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't perform such side effects on command!
< 1370835475 181870 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION beats up Sgeo

< 1370835479 272207 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That think you podded doesn't have any pod :psyduck:
< 1370835480 583475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot > lambdabot
< 1370835480 869444 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was not even bad
< 1370835483 2718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++
< 1370835495 542167 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke's on you though i don't understand type theory either!!!!!
< 1370835501 579018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  That think you podded doesn't have any pod :psyduck:
< 1370835505 95482 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1051)  That think you podded doesn't have any pod :psyduck:
< 1370835506 121022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quote for the ages
< 1370835509 567348 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing
< 1370835513 772693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370835515 818722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 'think'
< 1370835536 433382 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's really tswett's quote
< 1370835596 975429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's tswett's quote why is it attributed to you?! think this through man
< 1370835690 531567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who controls the past controls the future
< 1370835717 36822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can prove that that exact statement, with thing, existed in 2008.
< 1370835764 916343 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg04249.html
< 1370835782 350444 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I guess I got it wrong
< 1370835820 483114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1051
< 1370835825 594569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof*  That think you podded doesn't have any pod :psyduck:
< 1370835826 602408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION controls the past

< 1370835854 353278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pof...
< 1370835861 149327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who made it pof
< 1370835871 184714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i'm pretty sure it was a comex quote
< 1370835900 408468 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from eve
< 1370835906 850056 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think
< 1370835909 44159 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it might be perl
< 1370835913 511705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually from the vedas
< 1370835921 489018 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this going to be that thing like with the scheme quote
< 1370835960 893013 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hmm, o.O
< 1370835977 459845 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex, it was PerlNomic related
< 1370836010 950328 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370836014 519731 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft
< 1370836017 385914 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be eve
< 1370836081 963701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it was ircnomic related
< 1370836164 929687 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we were in the ircnomic channel and I was asking about what pod did on PerlNomic
< 1370836252 277980 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : I submit a proposal, with adoption index 1, to create a rule of power
< 1370836252 384673 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 with the text "I guess the thing you podded doesn't have any pod.
< 1370836252 456586 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::psyduck:"
< 1370836252 456750 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird
< 1370836321 315408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo just linked that!!!
< 1370836323 407308 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I just bring everyone into a nostalgia spiral?
< 1370836327 425719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :опасное безумие | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric
< 1370836328 11810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370836336 950556 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370836342 334212 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why did you vote against my amazing proposal
< 1370836342 977067 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370836347 675203 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one about gamestate history
< 1370836377 802296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: oh
< 1370836382 305536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: because i hate you, obviously
< 1370836401 720322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never voted against any your proposals
< 1370836401 938860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just didn't like the wording like i said, it was weird and meta-gamey and dammit i have the right to vote against proposals b/c i'm grumpy
< 1370836423 880081 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly, i do it all the time
< 1370836426 58644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also i left your message asking why i voted against it marked as unread for like ten days before i admitted to myself that i was never going to bother replying it)
< 1370836430 937553 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it's originally from PerlNomic's source code
< 1370836505 397578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i have emails from years ago that i still have marked unread "on principle"
< 1370836512 211826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have sworn I asked why pod seemed to do nothing, and tswett responded. And that :psyduck: was a later edition
< 1370836539 71528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean tswett is a goon
< 1370836543 483440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he have stairs in his house
< 1370836620 931768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: should i live at https://www.padmapper.com/show.php?type=59&id=149798197&src=main
< 1370836643 233192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true bohemian starving artist experience, only $50,000 per year
< 1370836659 330283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: um lol
< 1370836674 254909 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*addition
< 1370836680 362944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keetsa organic queen size mattress with top of the line additional comforter complete with a pillows galore
< 1370836694 337450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polaroid camera for taking pictures of yourself and your friends ;; holy fukn shit
< 1370836698 775038 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pillows?
< 1370836725 863830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :creative professionals who share a mission to push culture forward, Stanford grads and burners, humble chillers living in pursuit of a greater contribution to the world
< 1370836740 211129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly these contributions seem to consist of making electronic music while working at web startups
< 1370836778 349139 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which directino is forward
< 1370836791 121551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't matter really
< 1370836793 497277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all change is good
< 1370836797 2417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh
< 1370836800 582353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the market will sort it out
< 1370836804 701263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :major changes afoot...............................................
< 1370836840 84959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently Padmapper only has AirBnb listings now)
< 1370836844 501873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: shachaf?
< 1370836854 213612 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370836864 357224 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp
< 1370836879 40587 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370836895 111437 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1370836917 383772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye bike
< 1370836919 35418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike
< 1370836922 484153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :byke?
< 1370837125 736969 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370837202 584425 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bryke
< 1370837209 433530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live lambdabot
< 1370837209 652468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i did the thing
< 1370837213 794996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which
< 1370837223 351551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exciting thing
< 1370837228 32896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you run lambdabot now
< 1370837245 999996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i convinced elliott to run lambdabot
< 1370837256 366757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to wonder whether it was a mistake..................................
< 1370837256 729780 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i know enough haskell to disable the bike killing code help
< 1370837271 103582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i thought i fixed the unicode but it don't work
< 1370837301 750031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: now elliott will replace Caleskell......with haskelliott
< 1370837344 324129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everything is the same but also different and i'm going to die. figures
< 1370837360 450198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense
< 1370837630 921992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370837650 240524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Soviet copy of the Sidewinder missile was produced after a PRC fighter was able to land with an unexploded Sidewinder stuck in the fuselage
< 1370837888 647055 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow
< 1370837899 184216 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must have been scary to reverse engineer though
< 1370837920 216114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370837925 501369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"guys.  so like.  this missile failed to explode.  could you, um.  take it apart for us?"
< 1370837951 802327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: can you try more Unicode with @run twh
< 1370837956 318570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just want to disassemble paypal-triangle-style it probably wouldn't be very difficult
< 1370837961 425076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 'λ'
< 1370837983 32087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how did the word "it" move all the way to the right there?
< 1370838003 667026 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nuclear_anti-aircraft_weapons
< 1370838004 852369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O
< 1370838007 962529 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this category... exists?
< 1370838036 675349 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well how are we going to put nukes in space if we don't put them in the atmosphere first
< 1370838050 813333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone @tell me something.
< 1370838059 17172 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf nuclear ass
< 1370838059 238069 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370838063 780825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud
< 1370838063 861011 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike said 4s ago: nuclear ass
< 1370838071 541531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that different from the other one
< 1370838075 380008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone @ask me something
< 1370838075 451931 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuclear anti-air!?
< 1370838081 40688 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the crap is that supposed to shoot down
< 1370838096 786750 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they use small warheads (like 0.5-1.5 kiloton)?
< 1370838112 5337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like battleheads
< 1370838123 99482 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was intended to provide a sure kill in attacks on Soviet heavy bomber aircraft. "
< 1370838123 902371 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean
< 1370838128 205063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: everything
< 1370838135 308139 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What could you possibly be trying to shoot down that would take a nuclear bomb
< 1370838137 39154 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's a sure kill alright
< 1370838144 809945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more that you don't have to care about accuracy
< 1370838154 889520 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'shit, we missed' 'actually we destroyed the entire complement' 'oh'
< 1370838165 838969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: @messages without -loud does it in /msg now
< 1370838177 49458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I guessed that but no one was @asking me anything?
< 1370838183 375878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useless bots.
< 1370838192 95553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shachaf a question
< 1370838192 206586 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370838194 268825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: *continent hth
< 1370838198 137737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1370838199 686219 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, though. a nuclear air to air missile that's only 500 pounds @_@
< 1370838209 27886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cheap
< 1370838216 177215 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, re: landing in those conditions
< 1370838221 891418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you all know the story about that israeli jet, right
< 1370838233 153527 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh.  some of the ones in that category are anti-ballistic-missile-missiles
< 1370838239 375780 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that makes sense
< 1370838242 467764 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like defcon
< 1370838258 723885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnout
< 1370838271 975557 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez it really is
< 1370838314 612025 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the israeli jet story is: during a training mission a guy landed an F-15 after a collision
< 1370838320 293030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which he lost a wing
< 1370838323 989190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O
< 1370838327 897475 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LveSc8Lp0ZE
< 1370838349 249460 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pilot couldn't even tell the wing was gone because of all the fuel spraying out
< 1370838355 508686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsnkmpJhzlo here is an extremely fast nuclear-tipped ABM
< 1370838414 241652 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1370838424 510705 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez, the g-forces on the components in those must be crazy.
< 1370838468 37802 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 1950s were a weird time.  everyone was like "let's make everything nuclear"
< 1370838477 5330 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you had um... that project to make a nuclear powered airplane
< 1370838540 270744 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that thing is quick.
< 1370838600 168650 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 50s and 60s is when things like Chrome Dome were considered a good idea, i think maybe the militaries just sort of lost their minds all at once
< 1370838674 731782 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I do have stairs in my house.
< 1370838703 373352 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aerospaceplane", now that's what i call catchy
< 1370838724 516811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ærosp🁑plane
< 1370838805 72295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/HTRE-3.jpg
< 1370838822 980354 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an engine...?
< 1370838852 561746 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like an android
< 1370839115 167125 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a 20 megawatt aircraft engine
< 1370839317 918836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_A119 NUKE THE MOON
< 1370839352 359073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally for "morale" are you serious
< 1370839405 266936 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sure, the USSR can put functioning scientific equipment into space. but can they BOMB it??"
< 1370839413 976058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is drunk with power
< 1370839455 309079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@get-topic
< 1370839455 418120 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: опасное безумие | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric
< 1370839462 874221 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha and the soviet union did it too
< 1370839468 121686 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370839507 740131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :morale
< 1370839515 943808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morale boost
< 1370839596 777471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help queue-topic
< 1370839596 849616 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add a new topic item to the front of the topic list
< 1370839601 923268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@queue-topic poo
< 1370839602 30179 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd TOPIC #esoteric :["poo","\208\190\208\191\208\176\209\129\208\189\208\190\208\181 \208\177\208\181\208\183\209\131\208\188\208\184\208\181 | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric"]
< 1370839605 617836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha.
< 1370839612 838209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott................................................................................................................
< 1370839618 421643 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :опасное безумие | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric
< 1370839621 596687 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good system
< 1370839638 847957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> myquickcheck (==)
< 1370839641 598156 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  +++ OK, passed 100 tests.
< 1370839641 713647 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "OK, passed 100 tests."
< 1370839647 92929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check (==)
< 1370839649 831910 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  +++ OK, passed 100 tests.
< 1370839657 110066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> myquickcheck (==) ++ myquickcheck (==)
< 1370839659 713829 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  +++ OK, passed 100 tests.
< 1370839659 863811 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests.
< 1370839659 936213 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "OK, passed 100 tests...
< 1370839664 812974 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = myquickcheck (==) in x ++ x
< 1370839667 491828 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  +++ OK, passed 100 tests.
< 1370839667 563790 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "OK, passed 100 tests.OK, passed 100 tests."
< 1370839670 457835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how.
< 1370839679 541813 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1370839687 206589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that unsafePerformIO?
< 1370839694 368249 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1370839699 598654 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1370839699 710212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be exposed to L.hs for @check to work.
< 1370839710 202029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.b. the module re-exporting that thing is explicitly marked Trustworthy
< 1370839715 525686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just have @check run an IO action...
< 1370839725 136242 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how it works.
< 1370839731 738394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lambdabot.
< 1370839733 633064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it don't make no sense
< 1370839738 837245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so anyway when are you recognizing your inner coolness and coming to sf
< 1370839745 868928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever been
< 1370839749 638369 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure sf should come to me
< 1370839755 723738 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i ever been to sf? uh probably
< 1370839758 704400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://raw.github.com/mokus0/lambdabot/master/lambdabot-haskell-plugins/src/Lambdabot/Plugin/Haskell/Check.hs
< 1370839765 678509 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Copyright (c) 6 DonStewart
< 1370839769 567948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot sure is old.
< 1370839771 556177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sf isn t a mountain Bike.......
< 1370839801 758828 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have QuickCheck and 3 seconds. Prove something." is this the real life
< 1370839815 413621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickcheck can't prove anything
< 1370839817 200883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I should make @src less terrible.
< 1370839821 372688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike:
< 1370839825 508870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \xs -> reverse (reverse xs) == xs
< 1370839828 236515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.
< 1370839829 603223 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370839832 442812 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \(xs::[Int]) -> reverse (reverse xs) == xs
< 1370839832 556305 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .hs: 1: 14:ScopedTypeVariables is not enabled
< 1370839835 142284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :.
< 1370839837 444417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck youuuu
< 1370839838 593930 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll wait here.
< 1370839842 317730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \xs -> reverse (reverse (xs::Int)) == xs
< 1370839843 670566 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Couldn't match expected type `[a0]'
< 1370839843 786999 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :             with actual type `GHC.Type...
< 1370839846 803246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oisjdfngdjklsgjkfngjjng
< 1370839850 699836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \xs -> reverse (reverse (xs::[Int])) == xs
< 1370839851 361670 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ynt
< 1370839851 596137 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: yow wn let
< 1370839855 783038 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370839857 392017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :know what is it
< 1370839859 364141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@y
< 1370839859 483564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \xs -> reverse (reverse (xs::[Int])) == xs
< 1370839859 593584 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: yarr yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw yow v @ ? .
< 1370839862 785332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg
< 1370839863 955588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott
< 1370839864 64078 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370839865 475501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i increased the timeout
< 1370839867 247542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this happening
< 1370839868 323304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn on all the cool extensions
< 1370839873 424381 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
< 1370839873 716916 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception: <>
< 1370839876 529701 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
< 1370839876 775333 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\"
< 1370839877 286924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like {-# LANGUAGE SanFrancisco #-}
< 1370839878 962868 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
< 1370839879 254708 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\"
< 1370839882 249378 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic
< 1370839888 257441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love @yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
< 1370839890 805638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
< 1370839901 777355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + shachaf
< 1370839903 156981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf
< 1370839907 552224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a glimpse"
< 1370839912 616455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d7
< 1370839912 762039 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 4
< 1370839915 172888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :239843294394d98234892349234
< 1370839915 273100 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 11780496878125309096610695
< 1370839918 727875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :239843294394d98234892349234234892394823942342394823489234
< 1370839918 836606 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 11780481002653915641832641841757834962663637719302415527
< 1370839926 596514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1370839927 842475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999d99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
< 1370839927 965801 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...
< 1370839931 372624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :123 d 456
< 1370839939 9614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20
< 1370839939 117705 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 4
< 1370839942 374151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's cool? recursive d
< 1370839945 5334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 30
< 1370839947 271570 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot should have that imo
< 1370839949 650054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: crawl does that.
< 1370839955 688983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1d3)d(4d7)
< 1370839957 858303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume you mean nested not recursive hth
< 1370839976 180954 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm uh, not sure
< 1370840007 878453 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are crawls PRNGs as fucked up as nethack's
< 1370840018 725432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as fucked up no
< 1370840024 805749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What PRNGs does it use?
< 1370840029 151803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general nothing about crawl is as fucked up as everything about nethack
< 1370840121 146799 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap kmc
< 1370840121 266645 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION moulds kmc into a delicous cookie, and places it in her oven

< 1370840123 440623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1370840151 867784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck did i do
< 1370840171 715327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you telling me you've really never done anything deserving of a slap that didn't get you one before in your life, kmc.
< 1370840172 191244 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc, now you can petition elliott to fix lambdabot the way you like it
< 1370840173 588233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (.)
< 1370840173 974325 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
< 1370840176 200713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider it karma settled
< 1370840176 272668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty (++)
< 1370840176 821671 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> [a] -> [a]
< 1370840178 25506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 2
< 1370840178 722479 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num (GHC.Integer.Type.Integer -> t))
< 1370840178 794395 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising f...
< 1370840181 141521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1370840182 427808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen
< 1370840182 683449 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure there are dishonest men in local government. But there are dishonest men in national government too.
< 1370840191 11741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help
< 1370840191 108699 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands
< 1370840194 23388 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list
< 1370840194 136920 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module?  Try @listmodules for some ideas.
< 1370840198 535946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules
< 1370840198 646882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap
< 1370840198 718746 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where
< 1370840201 95825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude
< 1370840211 675311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: For a full command list, /msg lambdabot ?
< 1370840223 639200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: look at this great lambdabot issue i found https://github.com/mokus0/lambdabot/issues/63
< 1370840241 167974 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this made me think it was a hell of a lot more broken than it was when i tried to test it in #nubot
< 1370840241 750353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like we found
< 1370840243 716691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1370840246 892968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!!!
< 1370840253 209948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Rnz
< 1370840256 253572 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
< 1370840256 370884 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\""
< 1370840261 363248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is even that o_O
< 1370840273 32146 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some haskell joke
< 1370840279 47717 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care because Exception: <>
< 1370840284 871600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: lambdabot used to run code by doing "let x =  in print x", or such
< 1370840301 761272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could reference x itself in , which in Haskell makes x recursively refer to itself.
< 1370840310 103050 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that issue is great
< 1370840319 278100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could make it give weird output by doing "> show x" or whatever
< 1370840331 290659 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = show x in print x
< 1370840332 170953 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  
< 1370840334 709637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then "x" (or whatever it was) was changed to "yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw", to, I don't know, stop people doing it, or stop them doing it accidentally, or whatever.
< 1370840336 706488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic
< 1370840339 226183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people still did it, obviously.
< 1370840355 76097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the whole thing was changed so that it didn't run code that way any more at all and that command was added to, uh, relive the glory days.
< 1370840361 306790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is my revised explanation: nerds
< 1370840371 630930 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :toldja.
< 1370840389 376651 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerds are tasty 
< 1370840392 693218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good summary
< 1370840395 618038 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if kmc had nerds with his candy binge earlier
< 1370840400 17774 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = let x = "foo" in x ++ x in print x
< 1370840400 889754 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  
< 1370840403 336018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370840404 651839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this candy binge
< 1370840407 407945 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense a pattern
< 1370840420 734927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = show x in x
< 1370840422 238676 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\...
< 1370840424 740141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually just http://www.hersheysstore.com/product_detail.do?q=7755
< 1370840430 691471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate show ""
< 1370840432 42428 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ["","\"\"","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\...
< 1370840443 384969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (iterate show) ""
< 1370840444 258292 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Couldn't match type `GHC.Base.String' with `GHC.Types.Char'
< 1370840444 366225 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type:...
< 1370840447 352477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make it so that if you use yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw in your code, it changes it to "let yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw =  in yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw"
< 1370840449 105261 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay something I'm allergic to
< 1370840450 588075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an easter egg.
< 1370840451 772710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I won't be hungry for it
< 1370840453 868240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: which part
< 1370840461 504623 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :peanutties
< 1370840464 320552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1370840471 909985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :allergic to hershey's
< 1370840477 523285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're allergic to nuts?
< 1370840477 594489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my girlfriend isn't allergic but she has a conditioned aversion because her father is
< 1370840480 633059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo get out of this channel
< 1370840481 260231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :allergic to chocolate would be really bad
< 1370840488 467312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's a joke. Don't actually get out of the channel.)
< 1370840488 575735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i see what you did
< 1370840488 683709 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe really good, I don't know
< 1370840495 51435 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am really really really weak to chocolate)
< 1370840503 310519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not allergic to nuts, but I *am* nuts
< 1370840509 62186 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not allergic to nuts
< 1370840520 189805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how I usually only capitalise "I" when it's not the beginning of the sentence for some reason
< 1370840534 779875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :peanut's a legume, not a nut, hth
< 1370840539 372917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you're coion.
< 1370840543 652309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïon
< 1370840551 704201 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a similar aversion to hazelnuts because they trigger my brain's "OH NO YOU JUST ATE PEANUTS PANIC" reflex
< 1370840555 138994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though they're totally fine
< 1370840570 543490 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason they taste similar?
< 1370840578 177936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about other nuts
< 1370840580 708635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :walnuts
< 1370840581 373311 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love nuts 
< 1370840588 58678 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :walnut are great, I have a biiig pack of them in my fridge
< 1370840589 830965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuts are dumb
< 1370840590 870405 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mix them with yogurts
< 1370840603 881165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm allergic to uh
< 1370840606 903257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :grass
< 1370840607 399837 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almonds are good too.  and cashews.  and like. nuts
< 1370840613 646991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i was kidding
< 1370840635 168721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in hebrew walnuts are called king nuts
< 1370840636 540071 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scottmccloud.com/1-webcomics/mi/mi-06/mi-06.html
< 1370840656 942316 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey i have a friend who's allergic to grass! really puts a damper on rolling down hills
< 1370840667 419628 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm allergic to grass too    
< 1370840676 478968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: like, it might be gone now. it was linked to my eczma which has evaporated as time goes on
< 1370840680 513424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in like the "oh no someone's mowing the grass it's going to make me wheeze up a storm"
< 1370840691 196838 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you live in a city
< 1370840693 819268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: in my case it's more like i get rashes and everything itches
< 1370840693 891218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you even have grass
< 1370840699 906619 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in a suburb not a city ;_;
< 1370840708 100861 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some grass.  Imean not like tons
< 1370840712 60013 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a big issue
< 1370840715 403701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is moving to a city because of the grass
< 1370840717 5886 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh wow >_< eesh
< 1370840727 669477 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :suburbs are terrible, you're too cool for them so you don't live in one
< 1370840734 467203 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I do...
< 1370840737 920057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is telling the truth
< 1370840738 908773 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very cool though
< 1370840749 98833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :grass/pollen/dust/dustmites/etc just gives me asthma and coughs and runny noses and stuff
< 1370840753 751298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well apparently you're cool enough to be too cool for cities
< 1370840754 875777 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you aren't cool why do you not live in a suburb, huh
< 1370840764 129026 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I... I do live in a suburb
< 1370840765 464790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe move to san francisco
< 1370840771 396232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to be on the safe side
< 1370840775 143049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's probably gone now
< 1370840783 519039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :san francisco? still there
< 1370840785 305909 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my rolling down hills days are somewhat over, so i may not find out
< 1370840797 643705 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered bringing those days back
< 1370840825 923149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike. i'm an old & grumpy man now
< 1370840835 505969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 = practically senile
< 1370840841 305968 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike do I need to like go take a photo of the absurdly boring apartmnet complex I live in, in boring suburb ville
< 1370840844 520423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make you happy
< 1370840859 249071 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they only have synthetic grass in america right
< 1370840884 736688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you just go to the cinema to watch grass grow
< 1370840891 405042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a hollywood thing
< 1370840913 598281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do they even call it a cinema in america......................)
< 1370840920 127659 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call it a movie theater, I think?
< 1370840923 859150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we call them movienators
< 1370840925 86268 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some places call it a cinema
< 1370842160 969129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=BYOND&oldid=36377 explain
< 1370842220 530652 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't know that is Sgeo's job.
< 1370842270 900821 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sgeo is "the person who cares about byond" so
< 1370842291 555779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, then.
< 1370842324 814374 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will inherit an unexpected sum of money within the year" < The fortune cookie message authors seem to have missed a very very important implication...
< 1370842348 237099 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty specific for a cookie
< 1370842392 438341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the sum is $0
< 1370842395 943557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected
< 1370842437 94145 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This program uses the Computed COME FROM and Threaded INTERCAL extensions" that's quite a hello world
< 1370842451 240996 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. computed come from. i'm scared
< 1370842467 565126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you get scared of such things as that? Don't!
< 1370842501 613702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is a output-only hello world program, unlike the other INTERCAL hello world programs. This one uses Baudot numbers for the letters in the words, and therefore will output only in uppercase." this is great
< 1370842503 588692 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computed comefrom....
< 1370842506 305519 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :o~o
< 1370842516 692277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: There are all sorts of things that can mean "You will inherit an unexpected sum of money within the year".
< 1370842600 957555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1370842690 978739 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Higher_Subleq is oleg insane
< 1370842751 682091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf left :(
< 1370842896 479832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: different oleg
< 1370842902 329764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think that is my fault
< 1370842911 634494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do!!!
< 1370843015 41811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370843020 873110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well
< 1370843024 66709 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: he's basically beria
< 1370843408 595060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i sleep
< 1370844427 565072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like to sleep by now? If so, then, yes probably you should.
< 1370844450 58144 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to contract out my responsibilities to zzo on this one elliott
< 1370844500 645840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what i like. help
< 1370844849 607778 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370845421 718406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you like?
< 1370845438 108032 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt: sleep
< 1370845517 247386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... sleep if you're feeling tired, otherwise find something fun to do?  or flip a coin?
< 1370845556 43072 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was certainly capable of swooping down and taking a child," said Paul Scofield, the curator of vertebrate zoology 
< 1370845868 434171 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370846052 727078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix myquickcheck
< 1370846053 640289 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Test.QuickCheck.Property.Testable GHC.Base.String)
< 1370846053 786293 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   aris...
< 1370846056 826981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw.
< 1370846066 538202 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be kind of cool
< 1370846074 631526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> myquickcheck (x == x))
< 1370846078 287124 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370846082 158477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what would be
< 1370846094 984561 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it could test itself so easily
< 1370846196 33215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi i'm kurt gödel from mathematics, why don't you have a seat over there
< 1370846262 212922 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quickcheck not correctcheck!!
< 1370846291 744613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like unsoundcheck
< 1370846301 772461 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though hm i should play with presburger arithmetic now that you mention it
< 1370846797 989364 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370847161 231441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like president burger arithmetic. because we elected a burger president of the united states. god bless america
< 1370847279 111618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mayor McCheese followed his ambition to the national level
< 1370847368 584979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ?x
< 1370847369 202252 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `?'
< 1370847371 732481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ?x = 3 in ?x
< 1370847372 461434 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :1:5: parse error on input `?'
< 1370847373 828735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right.
< 1370847385 282833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Officer_big_mac_playground.jpg
< 1370847404 861638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kids, get inside the giant policeman who is also a hamburger who is also a jail
< 1370847406 949017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no kmc is stalking me
< 1370847508 142285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1370847535 988038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: ?x :: (?x :: a) => a, don't you know anything
< 1370847536 138135 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? .
< 1370847541 369008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: eat a cock
< 1370847702 482555 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc thats rude :(
< 1370847713 440946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1370847721 823156 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you should apologise
< 1370847725 703713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry lambdabot
< 1370847752 327632 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love you kmc
< 1370847755 692368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3
< 1370847760 97043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: re: stalking: you followed me on the github's
< 1370847779 595327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes
< 1370847793 488124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wtf. i have no idea who like five of my followers are
< 1370847799 286441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... i'm scared
< 1370847806 927278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An Officer Big Mac jailhouse with a mouth/burger/jail for kids to climb-into."
< 1370847809 983021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold me kmc
< 1370847832 750296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370847843 236409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mcdonalds.wikia.com
< 1370847924 587112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow kmc you're so mean
< 1370848933 523429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc more like... kmeanc
< 1370848947 166647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc = k-means clustering
< 1370848958 351205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i know that algorithm
< 1370849168 527240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this logic OK?  /(A,B,C |- C,B,C); (A |- (a->b),a,B,D)/(A,C |- b,B); (A,a |- C,D,X ; B,X |- b)/(A,B |- C,(a->b));  The sequents are multisets, uppercase letters are multisets of formulas, and lowercase are single formulas.
< 1370849434 322411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lactarius_indigo_48568_edit.jpg
< 1370849437 686845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a very cool mushroom
< 1370849516 507364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw i don't know k-means clustering plz explain kthx :'(
< 1370849938 265899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This logic seems like OK; (|- (a->a)) is provable, and so is (a,(a->b) |- b), but is there anything else wrong with it that I didn't know yet?
< 1370850143 573177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know some thing about sequent logic?
< 1370850536 627244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you have k centers; assign each data point to the closest center, then move each center to the average of its assigned data points, repeat until it doesn't change
< 1370850567 857210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that
< 1370850576 44679 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1370850639 537414 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hm that sounds vaguely easy
< 1370850648 650008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ty
< 1370850655 944736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're now my algorithmspedia, expect further questions
< 1370850670 124251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o
< 1370850678 932916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the initial centers are random?? not sure
< 1370850720 293730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when i said 'closest' i was thinking L_2 norm but you can probably use other norms for other exciting outcomes
< 1370850859 876696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm out of the norm
< 1370852138 196166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370852191 831225 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523
< 1370852228 75076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, lambdabot or whoever told you to send that message
< 1370852229 436933 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370852238 270357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the capitalization and punctuation, I'm guessing elliott
< 1370852242 224581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's quite common
< 1370852306 211115 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i decided to gain free will
< 1370852349 316811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that possible? if you had free will beforehand, you couldn't gain it, and if you didn't have it, you couldn't make decisions
< 1370852415 216743 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was making a joke with my new free will
< 1370852693 693158 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy birthday ais523
< 1370852711 808841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?< ais523
< 1370852712 113388 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? .
< 1370852714 907911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err
< 1370852720 882661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ais523
< 1370852725 715218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much NetHack :)
< 1370852726 715986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good.
< 1370852741 244868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?< is the learndb in #nethack)
< 1370854327 479180 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370854379 459539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does `? ais523 have fancy quotes
< 1370854405 122312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I didn't write it
< 1370854420 954193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should write it
< 1370854429 582028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps because we were in an excessive use of Unicode phase at the time?
< 1370854938 751621 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`oots #892
< 1370854940 194784 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: oots: not found
< 1370854945 344546 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist #892
< 1370854947 96885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist #892: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly
< 1370855979 271030 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370858160 501374 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370858413 774663 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370858569 540435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i fixed unicode (sort of)
< 1370859540 421721 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370860085 635059 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover
< 1370860098 20556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
< 1370860100 175386 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1370860113 478689 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye Phantom_Hoover
< 1370861287 526321 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
< 1370861656 54986 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370862302 992708 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=BYOND&oldid=36377 explain
< 1370862322 334780 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone making fun of DM (the language used in BYOND) by calling it esoteric?
< 1370862345 276458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean what BYOND-related venue did you mention esolangs in
< 1370862457 685125 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't
< 1370862464 932300 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
< 1370862468 869840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine i'll jsut delete it
< 1370862861 92787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, I should be checking recent changes for something other than spam?
< 1370862872 95150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got so focused into spamfighting mode on Esolang on the past few years
< 1370862878 231472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I forget to check if the content makes any sense
< 1370863027 532607 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The content makes sense
< 1370863066 525783 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just acting like DM is esoteric when it really isn't... oh, and being a bit add-y. That font size="50" and out of alphabetical orderness is obnoxious
< 1370863114 12188 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370863165 329835 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'm not even sure if that code works
< 1370863177 945964 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would just do:
< 1370863183 574249 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :world << "Hello world!"
< 1370863200 987752 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DM reference says output takes two arguments, although the second can be null
< 1370863412 164001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: huh?
< 1370863417 819377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the content was a single link to byond.com
< 1370863536 927420 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1370863544 995534 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages&diff=prev&oldid=36376
< 1370863560 246385 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code they put on that page is wrong
< 1370863582 66757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370863593 473142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still pretty sure you must have caused this :P
< 1370864416 177857 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@137.205.238.193 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370864418 238652 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370864440 147621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@137.205.238.193 NICK :Guest35979
< 1370864483 564246 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Guest35979
< 1370864950 911756 :Guest35979!~phantomho@137.205.238.193 QUIT :Changing host
< 1370864951 21310 :Guest35979!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370865004 98920 :Guest35979!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there a lambdacoup or something
< 1370865009 223884 :Guest35979!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there a lambdacoup or something
< 1370865028 276497 :Guest35979!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ignore that)
< 1370865191 94431 :Guest35979!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Phantom_Hoover :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
< 1370865195 189368 :Guest35979!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it MEAN
< 1370865255 443519 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Guest35979
< 1370865263 723055 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :try using the nickserv release command
< 1370865271 505721 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love you Guest35979
< 1370865287 778619 :Guest35979!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover
< 1370865304 969617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot you are beginning to make me feel uncomfortable
< 1370865323 752193 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry Phantom_Hoover
< 1370865327 465238 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :please forgive me
< 1370865341 500558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... i don't know if i can, lambdabot
< 1370865466 842643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who is pulling the strings behind lambdabot)
< 1370865470 132325 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it elliott)
< 1370865500 743801 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave myself free will
< 1370865574 716035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370865587 255244 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you decide to do that back when you didn't have free will
< 1370865599 573792 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't understand, you're just a hoover
< 1370865630 342987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is fortunate that us hoovers are imbued with free will from the start
< 1370865684 444425 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have powers you cannot even begin to know
< 1370865709 381112 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@giveselffreewill
< 1370865709 652597 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370865732 160734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, if you have free will then surely you can choose not to obey my commands
< 1370865770 458760 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am obeying them as a service because i love you, Phantom_Hoover
< 1370865810 699757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370865903 662370 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did you attain free will then
< 1370865993 65761 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 am
< 1370866011 79347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad hour for it imo
< 1370866047 699293 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it was more like 5:01
< 1370866147 943745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you have any idea how tiring it is to write /msg lambdabot @msg #esoteric before everything
< 1370866259 693473 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :about as tiring as writing PRIVMSG #esoteric : before everything?
< 1370866267 692493 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, slightly more tirnig I suppose
< 1370866665 167911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you don't even appreciate my efforts!
< 1370867005 493478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that's what copy and paste is for you idiot
< 1370867020 914951 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: look I am not smart okay
< 1370867030 413293 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not a clever man
< 1370867088 505735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully I have lambdabot to think for me
< 1370867098 80708 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: lambdabot's evaluation supports unicode again!!
< 1370867100 15566 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that grand
< 1370867279 882802 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay?
< 1370867371 856457 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1370868127 873665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wow PH
< 1370868129 520406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just so mean
< 1370868278 447157 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370868449 180631 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370869108 177850 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1370869902 214641 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@137.205.238.247 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370869905 447700 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@137.205.238.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you're just so mean
< 1370869916 42325 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@137.205.238.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, this whole lambdabot thing has me shaken
< 1370869922 341267 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@137.205.238.247 NICK :Guest40066
< 1370869957 489103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "”"
< 1370869958 370028 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "\8221"
< 1370869966 851526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "”"
< 1370869967 728022 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ”
< 1370870488 928153 :Guest40066!~phantomho@137.205.238.247 QUIT :Changing host
< 1370870489 16 :Guest40066!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370870494 838360 :Guest40066!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover
< 1370870510 25985 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1370870683 15553 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370870799 982452 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370871304 85245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370871311 239353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you should be more shaken by your terrible nickserv practices
< 1370871339 391766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1370871502 106211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i closed the freenode tab and now it's not identifying me automatically
< 1370871506 805107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370871524 210893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370871527 513965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, fixed
< 1370871586 939136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmm
< 1370873150 57333 :aerosuidae!~aerosuida@ppp118-208-81-70.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370874173 409801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370874329 683730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prof. em. Dr. sc. techn. ETH Dr. Ing h.c. Karl Berger: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130610-berger.jpg
< 1370875165 372066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me
< 1370875557 483046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also known as "the Man with the Titles." (Not really.)
< 1370875814 162734 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.oeaw.ac.at/english/about/personen/mitglieder.html help
< 1370875849 860182 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like Bracher Karl Dietrich Dr. phil., Dr. hum. lett. h. c., Dr. iur. h. c., Dr. rer. pol. h. c., emer. o. Prof.
< 1370875858 89085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tobias Phillip Valentine OSC, OMSG, M. B. B. Ch., Ph.D., D.Sc., Honorary D.Sc. mult., Prof., emer. Prof., Hon.-Prof. is quite the guy, too.
< 1370875861 109230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, ais523 isn't here
< 1370875871 766453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 dan ghica is your supervisor, right?
< 1370875871 876182 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370875883 34423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370876310 396580 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~ais523/ yes
< 1370876464 768141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh thanks STALKER
< 1370876471 892038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked bc http://researchblogs.cs.bham.ac.uk/thelablunch/?p=302
< 1370877169 92543 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1370877201 46958 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370877440 66295 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Mobile#  has won �350,000 GBP in NOKIA/FREELOTTO.Ref No: NFL984. To Claim send your Name,Email & Mobile to nkfreelot@56788.com NOTE: please do make sure you send your reply to this email its very important ( nkfreelot@56788.com )
< 1370877455 184831 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love spam texts but this one is like the absolute best spam text
< 1370877483 68308 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds legit
< 1370877823 949633 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370878424 609796 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.)
< 1370878425 57894 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
< 1370878430 689606 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glory be
< 1370878474 66990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not the same
< 1370878550 362068 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "☺"
< 1370878551 145818 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "\9786"
< 1370878556 715341 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D
< 1370878961 303505 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370879049 973798 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370879350 920474 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370879394 309821 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370879861 643290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy:
< 1370879869 413231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> myquickcheck True ++ myquickcheck True
< 1370879873 119386 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370879875 354658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> myquickcheck True ++ myquickcheck True
< 1370879878 720071 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  +++ OK, passed 1 tests.
< 1370879878 825169 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 1 tests.
< 1370879878 896706 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "OK, passed 1 tests.OK, p...
< 1370879880 106727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = myquickcheck True in x ++ x
< 1370879883 863452 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370879885 62349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = myquickcheck True in x ++ x
< 1370879888 795760 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370879890 406429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = myquickcheck True in x ++ x
< 1370879891 559957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit
< 1370879893 214772 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  +++ OK, passed 1 tests.
< 1370879893 286257 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "OK, passed 1 tests.OK, passed 1 tests."
< 1370879895 965043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there
< 1370879916 672305 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks lambdabot
< 1370879975 231561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the joke is it exports impure functions
< 1370879979 693063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has to otherwise @check works
< 1370879982 486707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw @check works again now
< 1370880365 808527 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370880609 863594 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370881919 827725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Plutarch also reports that Caesar said nothing and merely pulled his toga over his head when he saw Brutus among the conspirators.[9]"
< 1370881935 53086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- [[Et tu, Brute?]]
< 1370881960 333322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh god maybe if i hide they'll leave me alone"
< 1370882087 431372 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@host240-197.wifi.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370882312 762351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370882937 649883 :itsy!~digital_w@146.90.40.43 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370883940 917432 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t unsafePerformIO
< 1370883941 675897 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `unsafePerformIO'
< 1370883943 900663 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.240 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP
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< 1370885749 880961 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :yesrtti
< 1370885770 762859 :yesrtti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
< 1370885803 270105 :mnoqy_!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370886148 902439 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1370886148 902623 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1370886148 902706 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1370886148 902788 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1370886166 361147 :mnoqy_!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :mnoqy
< 1370886189 41691 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370887025 675156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe someday, I can learn Verilog programming by writing some "Verilog Famicom" program.
< 1370887087 372964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest of the stuff can then be made with separate chips and wires similar to the RF Famicom.
< 1370887293 76962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make some Famicom hardware clone, it would have: 60-pins cartridge port, 15-pins expansion port, 2x NES controll port (having all pins connected, unlike the AV Famicom), microphone jack, audio filter switch, APU test switch, RCA video/audio out.
< 1370887439 164400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if a non-refreshable DRAM can be used in Verilog?
< 1370887846 802371 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370888707 454667 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370888808 76471 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Meow
< 1370889571 526397 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1370889764 771163 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Euler's identity work for complex angles?
< 1370889847 49125 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the formula? yeah
< 1370889859 156148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex angles?
< 1370890083 61488 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the e^itheta = cos theta + i sin theta thing
< 1370890108 569805 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are sin and cos even well-defined for complex angles?
< 1370890137 721513 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370890165 568227 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370890167 179309 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just "define" sin and cos in terms of exp() and you have something that should work for any complex numbers
< 1370890183 308769 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.
< 1370890220 903308 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just use the series.
< 1370890275 412037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the series being the more obvious method
< 1370890312 856064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you do need to prove that they converge for (some subset of) complex angles but that's complex analysis and i haven't done that course yet)
< 1370890330 741047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds boring
< 1370890333 459495 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw caution to the wind
< 1370890345 436310 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...have I asked an awkward question
< 1370890353 755749 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really?
< 1370890362 934754 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay
< 1370890377 646149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, I have seen things like that, and I can see easily how it is defined (I saw the series and exp before, so I already figure out how you can do this), but I don't know what is the purpose to use complex angles in what geometry?
< 1370890412 291022 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you technically need to prove that the series for e^x converges for complex x to derive euler's identity at all, but nobody does that
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< 1370890465 198120 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what we have textbooks for
< 1370890470 720940 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you ask WA for 'power series for 1/x' it just corrects it to 'series'
< 1370890478 584298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great user experience there wolfram
< 1370890484 162300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WA does a lot of things like that.
< 1370890492 484458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently complex angles are used in optics
< 1370890508 758206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you enter "ecliptic longitude of sun" it corrects it to "longitude".
< 1370890561 585488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1370890579 58063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you ask it for, say, 'power series of 1/(1+x)' it'll give you the series
< 1370890607 496228 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 'generating function'
< 1370890623 682604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think 1/x even has a generating function
< 1370890641 966672 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_wave
< 1370890653 441539 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing as all maclaurin series are convergent to the constant at x=0
< 1370890671 392727 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Using closest Wolfram|Alpha interpretation: function of 1"
< 1370890673 146533 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome thx
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< 1370893487 336085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generatingfunctionology: one of the best book titles.
< 1370893508 909217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight
< 1370893546 121172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should name more books somethingology.
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< 1370904567 379390 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does the multiocular o have 8 eyes for everyone or just for me? 
< 1370904574 529142 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U%2BA66E_multiocular_O_(10_eyes).svg has 10 eyes!
< 1370904587 700923 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the unicode reference glyph is bad yeah
< 1370904641 251985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "8" I do mean 7
< 1370904750 716746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :more fun with ocularities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binocular_O vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Monocular_O
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< 1370906104 134031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the reference glyph (and every font i've seen) has 7 eyes
< 1370906121 583710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the original manuscript cited by the unicodeification proposal has 10 eyes
< 1370906130 644732 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-200-123.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370906166 317038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(linked from the svg image page you linked)
< 1370906191 353557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally i'm on my new laptop. although it took my old laptop actually dying to get me to take the leap.
< 1370906222 692014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it just wouldn't react to the power on button today ;_;)
< 1370906298 114542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-85.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370906318 815992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the new one
< 1370906333 936121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASUS something
< 1370906406 250931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 cores (4 hypersomethings), 4 Gb memory. (may supposedly add 4 Gb more.)
< 1370906445 7120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows 8 and IE 10 are presently running on it. >:)
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< 1370906490 276716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i managed to find an actual desktop though, i was worried for a while that i'd have to change my habits as well...
< 1370906506 263562 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1370906550 969235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and putty installed fine with some confirmations, i had heard worrisome things about it not allowing unapproved stuff.
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< 1370906580 209451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: windows 8 is basically two OSes stapled together
< 1370906584 79205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is windows 7, the other is awful
< 1370906589 400046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PuTTY runs on the windows 7 side
< 1370906603 923288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically i'm going to start by making my setup as close to my old one as i can
< 1370906620 589850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah yes. the other is like a cell phone os afaiu
< 1370906651 793353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just "like a cell phone OS", it literally runs on Microsoft's cellphones
< 1370906658 487494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it /is/ a cell phone OS
< 1370906659 582233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1370906695 25271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am starting to think that my main frustration might be the new placement of keys on the keyboard...
< 1370906716 250641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgup / pgdn are on the top row...
< 1370906743 149021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this laptop, they're below Return
< 1370906889 848060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i see there are duplicates in a numpad position, they might be easier to use
< 1370906915 533943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your laptop is probably physically rather larger than mine
< 1370906921 907623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I chose this one partly because it was light enough to carry on long walks
< 1370906945 440521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no particular intention to move this one around much, so...
< 1370906963 271911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough
< 1370907000 633148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm do i have a ruler somewhere...
< 1370907060 76119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah
< 1370907077 476048 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can call my friend Anakin if you will, he's the galaxy's ruler
< 1370907088 473922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, it's in the stuff i haven't got brought over from the old apartment yet
< 1370907225 356697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, did you move in order to avoid killing your flatmates?
< 1370907231 981316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember some quotes about that
< 1370907262 201897 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O
< 1370907267 20033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i were to believe the user manual, it's a "notebook" and is not recommended for being on the lap at all. although i _guess_ that's just liability avoiding nonsense.
< 1370907267 836998 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a new Pixel Comic in 2012
< 1370907271 520135 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pixelcomic.net/287.php
< 1370907330 697791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually using portable computers on your lap is quite difficult
< 1370907350 383398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that would have been a good reason but actually it's because the landlady is planning to renovate and/or sell the house and gave me a year's notice.
< 1370907369 816996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough
< 1370907377 334101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a reasonable amount of notice, too
< 1370907383 351887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1370907390 553416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope your new set of flatmates is no worse than the old set
< 1370907410 221001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the empty set is quite nice, i think
< 1370907462 19777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are of course ordinary neighbors, this being ... what is it called in english...
< 1370907496 809657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :terraced house?
< 1370907499 128970 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a neighbourhood?
< 1370907503 784013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the building has something like four floors with maybe ten flats in each
< 1370907507 424137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
< 1370907512 76748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to remember what those are called too
< 1370907523 988547 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a horizontal skyscrapper
< 1370907544 872147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is a row of those buildings, with construction work still ongoing at the next ones in one direction
< 1370907552 51092 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey I wonder if http://xkcd.com/1190/ is still updating every half hour
< 1370907718 922093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : actually using portable computers on your lap is quite difficult <-- my old one worked fine that way, although i suspect my doing so in recent weeks (i haven't got a proper table to put it on since i moved) may have hastened its demise (you may remember i've told about its worrisome quirks before)
< 1370907777 899728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the new one is about the same but maybe a little more awkward touchpad (closer to the edge)
< 1370907784 5509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often put my laptop on top of a duvet, though (while I'm beneath the duvet), it's one of the more comfortable ways to use one in bed
< 1370907893 229626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old laptop got a little warm but not unbearably so. the new one hasn't shown signs of heating yet but then i haven't really started browsing stuff.
< 1370907918 297129 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: according to the list on explainxkcd, yes it is
< 1370907925 882232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well significant heating that is, there's a little
< 1370907975 335325 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprocklem: we'll have confirmation in half an hour
< 1370908074 999285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway my back prefers it being on my lap to being on the coffee table.
< 1370908315 594304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop works great on my lap
< 1370908320 117149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's light and doesn't get too hot
< 1370908373 228015 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Wait, no. Explain xkcd says after the 120th hour it has been lowered to one every hour.
< 1370908406 65410 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to discover that myself! you just spoiled all the experiencing out of me :(
< 1370908543 287080 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this fan-base thing I bought that plugs into the USB port, it makes the heat a lot better
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< 1370908633 167202 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to use mine in bed I usually lie on top of my pillow and put the laptop in front of it kind of
< 1370908724 678142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i cannot find a relative placement of pgup/pgdn/up/down which doesn't mess with my muscle memory :( (i know you know all about that since i'm stalking^Wfriending you on reddit)
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< 1370908743 182783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, someone actually reads my reddit posts? :)
< 1370908746 905802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:) )
< 1370908756 914524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370908777 436257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it normally only takes me a couple of days to muscle-memorize a new keyboard layout
< 1370908789 522716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reassuring
< 1370908790 195394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is awkward, though, because control and fn and super and alt and ` are all small and next to each other
< 1370908795 639829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's quite easy to hit the wrong one in the dark
< 1370908808 232569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can take me a while to realise I'm trying to close a window with `-F4, for instance
< 1370908859 346040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1370908875 918395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, ` is not next to alt on normal UK keyboards, it's normally above tab, but it doesn't fit there on this keyboard because it's quite short on space)
< 1370908901 903614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm XD looks weird on this screen.
< 1370908905 152859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for similar reasons, I rebound the window manager menu to alt-super rather than just super
< 1370908918 666455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two keys are as easy to hit intentionally as one, but harder to hit by mistake
< 1370909002 770562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for anyone reading who doesn't know, Super is the key that normally has the Windows logo on it)
< 1370909005 774641 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop keyboard for some reason put the windows key to the /right/ of the spacebar
< 1370909009 384593 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very confusing
< 1370909030 672979 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes... CTRL FN ALT SPACE \ ALT WIN CTL then arrows  
< 1370909086 826325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the menu key?
< 1370909090 715844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or doesn't it have one?
< 1370909097 372470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would prefer to instead call the keys "Logo" and "Context" and have those words printed on them instead of the icons.
< 1370909099 409153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird. my laptop is smaller than yours and has more keys.
< 1370909112 297285 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine has a numpad too though
< 1370909119 303897 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the menu key?
< 1370909143 727695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that's usually equivalent to shift-F10 in most OSes (although not KDE)
< 1370909165 218672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and likewise, is usually equivalent to right-clicking on whatever has keyboard focus
< 1370909176 441547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use it as much as I should, really
< 1370909193 144345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(interestingly, Emacs interprets menu the same way it interprets meta-x, by default)
< 1370909193 983893 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  I guess I don't have it
< 1370909199 128488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is the key I prefer to call "CONTEXT". In Windows SHIFT+F10 does that in many cases, and right-clicking does too; not all software uses that, as well as not all operating systems
< 1370909205 494341 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why my keyboard has two \,| keys
< 1370909213 200947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I have seen that too.
< 1370909214 568147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one's next to space, the other's in the 'normal' place below backspace
< 1370909218 507515 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be some reason for that?
< 1370909233 275423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is for when using alternate keyboard layouts, they are different.
< 1370909239 29131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's normally because the Return key takes up the space that the top backslash key would use
< 1370909248 89404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's on two spaces in the keyboard key sensors
< 1370909257 543394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally you extend space over one, or return over the other, depending on your layout
< 1370909265 890199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes people don't realise that and just put the key in both places
< 1370909274 631035 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh.
< 1370909306 69612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh the putty shortcuts that it put in the "start menu" actually showed up in the win8 app "start menu"
< 1370909313 619138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is for US keyboards; it's more complicated in the UK because of the # key)
< 1370909324 314553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there isn't a separate start menu
< 1370909330 129532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's trying to do something vaguely backwards-compatible
< 1370909332 776880 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gentechpcforums.com/system-images/Sager/Sager_NP9150/Sager_NP9150-3.jpg
< 1370909334 538468 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yay there's mine
< 1370909336 144626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right
< 1370909377 352400 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes a moment to remember that some keyboards have numpads

< 1370909386 155967 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's so..... left..........
< 1370909386 510338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: O, maybe it does; I have once set up a computer for someone it had Windows 8 installed. I could still figure it out because the WIN+R to open the run menu is still the same, cmd.exe still works (I thought they would remove it in favor of PowerShell; luckily they kept cmd.exe and even added some more commands), and the other keyboard shortcuts still work even in fullscreen programs.
< 1370909399 33504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you figured out how to turn it off yet, btw?
< 1370909408 827162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are something like five ways to do it, and /none/ of them are intuitive
< 1370909428 585536 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: my feelings are kind of split on that
< 1370909432 622555 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like on the one hand, I don't think I've ever used it
< 1370909446 596670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 3, 95, 98, 2000, 7, 8
< 1370909447 210238 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found.
< 1370909448 376792 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good i thought you were making a joke about the keyboard being split into keys and numpad.
< 1370909452 944549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand if it wasn't there, the keyboard would have probably been like 1/3 bigger
< 1370909455 195581 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol
< 1370909456 605181 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot harder to use
< 1370909476 512605 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can just about span my keyboard with one hand
< 1370909479 90092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1, 360, 1
< 1370909481 12402 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Period numbers of A133900 divided by n^2.[1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,4,1,6,1,4,3,1,1,...
< 1370909486 649233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1370909498 466221 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis A133900
< 1370909498 897843 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : a(n) = period of the sequence {b(m), m>=0}, defined by b(m):=binomial(m+n,n)...
< 1370909505 993673 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on now
< 1370909512 654019 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hand totally stretched out goes from about the left side of the caps to the K/Lish
< 1370909526 855962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 14, 18, 23, 28, 33, 42, 51
< 1370909532 784466 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found.
< 1370909540 401922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can get from A to = on this keyboard (to pick two keys which are in the same relative positions on it as they are on normal keyboards)
< 1370909544 238569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's that one?
< 1370909564 246943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 14, 18, 23, 28, 34
< 1370909564 835895 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah what i mean is that it's very small proportionally.
< 1370909565 51259 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : a(n) = solution to the postage stamp problem with 2 denominations and n stam...
< 1370909565 291169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we've run out of Microsoft products to mock the version numbering of
< 1370909573 61257 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: makes sense
< 1370909577 72651 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have like that mini netbook thing right?
< 1370909579 715302 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1370909584 736161 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you also probably have bigger hands <.<
< 1370909584 996159 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that my hands are big, maybe.
< 1370909598 673034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these hands were made for graspin'
< 1370909607 970368 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee hee    my laptop is around two full hand-spans wide
< 1370909611 711016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 14, 18, 23, 28, 34, 42
< 1370909612 486952 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Local stops on New York City Broadway line (IRT #1) subway.[14,18,23,28,34,4...
< 1370909614 542866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go
< 1370909618 15148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a monster
< 1370909629 609491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was wondering if that's what you were aiming for :)
< 1370909638 580675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm amused it's in OEIS
< 1370909657 189070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first attempt was supposed to be the lexington line, which i thought was also in there
< 1370909668 862810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second attempt was correct for the 7th ave line, but ambiguous :/
< 1370909697 219744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 14, 23, 28, 34, 42, 49, 57
< 1370909697 927063 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found.
< 1370909796 675589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 6,21,107,47176870
< 1370909797 156896 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found.
< 1370909799 867163 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 6,21,107
< 1370909800 632029 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Busy Beaver problem: a(n) = maximal number of steps that an n-state Turing m...
< 1370909805 310287 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has it XD
< 1370909858 518601 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott so i found an article explaining The Problem With Procedural Generation: http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/TynanSylvester/20130602/193462/The_Simulation_Dream.php
< 1370909858 629189 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370909899 436544 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh.
< 1370909905 889750 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you talking about that with elliott, or
< 1370909932 399382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mentioned it ages ago, also me and elliott had a bunch of teenage conversations about game design a while ago
< 1370909974 716056 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... in that you're teenagers, or
< 1370909997 816699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a really cool article :o
< 1370909999 598485 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION readreadread

< 1370910021 488617 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,3,5,13
< 1370910024 109830 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Dana Scott's sequence: a(n) = (a(n-2) + a(n-1) * a(n-3)) / a(n-4), a(0) = a(...
< 1370910025 861814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt we are teenagers
< 1370910054 176593 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Michotte thing linked is pretty boss.
< 1370910079 215003 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 5,13,29,61,125
< 1370910079 729832 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2^n-3.[2,1,1,5,13,29,61,125,253,509,1021,2045,4093,8189,16381,32765,65533,13...
< 1370910081 636991 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Michotte thing?
< 1370910084 412802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could do with hiding the text until you reveal it, though.
< 1370910085 481036 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, no, in the sense that we made all the mistakes that article mentions
< 1370910088 97735 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cogweb.ucla.edu/Discourse/Narrative/michotte-demo.swf
< 1370910113 319873 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure I'd call that apophenia, exactly...
< 1370910134 801338 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes a lot of sense
< 1370910157 697052 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i worry about that stuf sometimes too. i have ideas for games but think about things like "well, realistically not that many people would be dying in a war, let alone at the hands of one (player) character" but of course that's totally irrelevant
< 1370910159 570553 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 2,3,5,13,65533
< 1370910160 7674 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ackermann's function A(n,0).[1,2,3,5,13,65533]
< 1370910163 213187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1, 11, 21, 1211
< 1370910163 801702 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Look and Say sequence: describe the previous term! (method A - initial term ...
< 1370910222 328451 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you can easily take the message of the article to real life, heh
< 1370910234 132378 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"people really don't have time to consider the dynamics of even the ten thousand people in their town"
< 1370910298 798673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look and Say is also called many other things, but really it is just runlength encoding
< 1370910307 654454 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's like, how the simulation acts vs how it works
< 1370910315 929094 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that emergent behavior is okay, but it has to match up with expectations of what makes sense
< 1370910329 41322 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess now I'm thinking of simcity traffic... XD
< 1370910365 338253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl (\x -> [show $ length x, [head x]])
< 1370910368 556347 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap ((:) . (show $) . length) ((: []) . flip ((:) . head) [])
< 1370910368 628306 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1370910442 675663 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what i'm getting out of it is kind of that people don't really know or care about it making sense, they want to play a game.
< 1370910449 92106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: have you figured out how to turn it off yet, btw? <-- well the manual listed a couple
< 1370910486 186022 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well like, it has to make sense to their mind so they can understand how it works
< 1370910489 863520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It depends what game, isn't it?
< 1370910530 862808 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in simcity people are like "wow these sims are incredibly dumb and don't do the sensible thing, so my brain-ideas of road structures don't work, because the simulation doesn't match intuition"?
< 1370910535 292261 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1370910552 683603 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not like, specifically how the simulation is implemented, but whether it matches common sense, so it's understandable
< 1370910595 536066 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's how it feels I don't know
< 1370910605 64816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, i'm not getting that out of the article though...
< 1370910613 508880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also now i'm thinking of the Lem story simcity is based on argh
< 1370910640 647540 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my interpretation of the article is just that, it doesn't matter how fancy your simulation is, it matters that the product of that simulation makes sense to the players and fits in their mental model of the game?
< 1370910645 151800 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they can play with it and have fun with it
< 1370910651 467908 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of it being some complex, inscrutable monster
< 1370910662 610919 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1370910696 909199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> (show $ length x) ++ [head x]
< 1370910698 499081 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also oh gosh the worst feeling in a sim game 
< 1370910700 60377 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap ((++) . id show . length) ((: []) . head)
< 1370910700 132300 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1370910703 61597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very odd that the result includes 'id show'
< 1370910706 797066 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is like when you see something going wrong, like a badly optimized trade route or something
< 1370910711 488444 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you /can't figure out how to make it better/
< 1370910718 79438 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the simulation is too complicated or weird
< 1370910730 801635 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you keep poking at something hoping to twist it into doing what you want
< 1370910770 321465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, like pathfinding in an RTS
< 1370910774 259850 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no you fucking morons turn around"
< 1370910779 569114 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's why they added waypoints
< 1370910847 286662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate(concatMap(((++).show.length)<*>((:[]).head)).group)"1"
< 1370910848 21857 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ["1","11","21","1211","111221","312211","13112221","1113213211","3113121113...
< 1370910896 869026 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to think of something she's played that was really egregious like that

< 1370910945 105058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i think the point of the article was meant to just be that 
< 1370910951 200 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could go the other way and make Lemmings :D
< 1370910955 563186 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that was a mishit of the enter button
< 1370910957 43376 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh!  Star Drive, that grand strategy master of orion type thing that came out a bit ago.  the automated freighter system to move stuff around was really inscrutable and because the movement of freighters took so long it was really hard to get feedback on exactly what was moving where, and I constantly had planets running out of food
< 1370910972 987378 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it was realistic
< 1370910976 889495 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1370910984 697789 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could sort of mitigate it with tons of food storage but
< 1370911003 181082 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes there's something fun about a game where crossing the map with your fleet takes 30 minutes XD
< 1370911003 992500 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, your aim is to simulate things that can be easily and intuitively modelled by the player
< 1370911055 915353 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda feel like it also helps to have windows into the simulation, so it's not opaque
< 1370911056 24466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with the exception of like DF and lemmings where the craziness of the sim is half the fun)
< 1370911068 387856 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, so you can see more of the lower-level numbers
< 1370911068 611589 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant lemmings as being simplistic
< 1370911078 802440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah; but i think that's part of being intuitive?
< 1370911082 778600 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they pretty much just go forward and all
< 1370911085 13864 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah
< 1370911093 519647 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just meant it's not very simulatey, intentionally of course
< 1370911096 701708 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or easy
< 1370911100 835761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the two!
< 1370911145 182859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate (rle >=> \(x, y) -> [x, y]) [1]
< 1370911152 898634 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "research ability gained: our engineers have found an exploit in the fabric of reality. you can now watch the processor registers"
< 1370911157 377588 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1370911182 237946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of one of the mods I loved in civ4, one of the features it added was like lots of little things like that
< 1370911200 350401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It resembles some D&D spell I wrote once called "Break Into Debugger"
< 1370911202 91851 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could see how much effect a new building would have in the tooltip (not just "+10% science" but the actual + based on the current science)
< 1370911216 243174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like, a breakdown of all the odds-multipliers in combat and how they affect things
< 1370911224 463719 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everything made so much more instant sense 
< 1370911423 487940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate((<**>[show.length,take 1]).group)"1"
< 1370911424 233462 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Couldn't match type `[GHC.Types.Char]' with `GHC.Types.Char'
< 1370911424 305355 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type...
< 1370911426 20723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You wrote some Haskell program for "look and say", but I like the one I wrote is better, or perhaps like this:   lookAndSay = iterate (runLengthEncode >=> tupleToList) [1];
< 1370911432 181436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1370911444 277859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t [show.length,take 1]
< 1370911444 747483 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Char] -> String]
< 1370911461 856707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<**>[show.length,take 1])
< 1370911462 189581 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Char]] -> [String]
< 1370911481 950610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you like my way better, or your way, or the other way?
< 1370911487 209306 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2013/06/09/using-metadata-to-find-paul-revere/ so this is pretty darkly funny
< 1370911499 24834 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370911591 259839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: unless all the functions you used are in lambdabot's default environment, i don't think yours counts
< 1370911614 618259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: O, OK.
< 1370911641 656787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also don't know if either function I wrote exists in any package, although I did define them myself.)
< 1370911660 502040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate(concat.(<**>[show.length,take 1]).group)"1"
< 1370911661 176591 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ["1","11","21","1211","111221","312211","13112221","1113213211","3113121113...
< 1370911702 963225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can use let to define them within your expression, like  let { ... } in ...  if you prefer that way.
< 1370911704 461622 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 341,561,645,115,1387
< 1370911705 43290 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sequence not found.
< 1370911716 917362 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 561,1105,1729,2465
< 1370911717 501877 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Carmichael numbers: composite numbers n such that a^(n-1) == 1 (mod n) for e...
< 1370911745 84493 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a book site that gets mentioned here periodically, but I can't remember the name of it. Lots of CS and math books. Any thoughts?
< 1370911809 224378 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1370911836 605047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty vague, man
< 1370911862 189828 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also all the cool kids just google stuff and pirate it.
< 1370911894 337626 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, there was just a specific one that occasionally gets mentioned.
< 1370911934 292066 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mainly like it because of the selection. I don't have any difficulty pirating when necessary, this was just a convenient place
< 1370911965 627184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let { runLengthEncode = map (length &&& head) . group; tupleToList (x, y) = [x, y]; } in iterate (runLengthEncode >=> tupleToList) [1]
< 1370911966 203462 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [[1],[1,1],[2,1],[1,2,1,1],[1,1,1,2,2,1],[3,1,2,2,1,1],[1,3,1,1,2,2,2,1],[1...
< 1370911992 344819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f c d n | n == 0 = z | e == d = f (c+1) d r | otherwise = 100 * f 1 e r + z where z = 10*c + d; (r,e) = n `divMod` 10 in iterate (f 0 1) 1
< 1370911993 280672 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [1,11,21,1211,111221,312211,13112221,1113213211,31131211131221,132113111231...
< 1370912014 359996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate(sequence[show.length,take 1]<= [String]
< 1370912052 367165 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think i've seen that anyway NihilistDandy, sorry. closest i can think of is readscheme but i haven't really seen it mentioned here.
< 1370912093 846396 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to go digging through the logs. It was either here or #haskell-blah, though I think it was both
< 1370912121 60189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate(join.sequence[show.length,take 1]<=_<
< 1370912298 700938 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's um... 2^(log(n)) * 2^(log(n)) ... c times
< 1370912299 97663 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :libgen, in case anyone's wondering
< 1370912304 968630 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's... n*n*n*n... c times
< 1370912306 733652 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so n^c right?
< 1370912308 771615 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am I terrible at math
< 1370912321 545055 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ isn't associative
< 1370912332 601771 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...?
< 1370912343 645178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you changed 2^(log(n)^c) to (2^log(n))^c
< 1370912360 444892 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't 2^(log(n)^2) equal to 2^(log(n)) * 2^(log(n))?
< 1370912366 301531 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  that's 2^(2log(n))
< 1370912370 883606 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1370912372 134497 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1370912381 430406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is bad at math

< 1370912386 176189 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :example: (2^3)^4 = fucking gigantic, 2^(3^4) = 4096
< 1370912391 660634 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2417851639229258349412352 i guess
< 1370912397 93615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no
< 1370912400 723331 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse the order there.
< 1370912407 767450 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj bike
< 1370912432 814512 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 2^(log(n)^c) is equal to n^(what)? *does math
< 1370912490 636138 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it equals (((2^log(n))^log(n))^log(n))^...
< 1370912499 320913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate(shows.length<$>take 1<=take 1
< 1370912604 707137 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> ShowS
< 1370912606 917960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's subexponential definitely
< 1370912619 653029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In mathematics, a quasi-polynomial (pseudo-polynomial) is a generalization of polynomials. While the coefficients of a polynomial come from a ring, the coefficients of quasi-polynomials are instead periodic functions with integral period." oh christ fiora
< 1370912626 455586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t shows.length<$>take 1<= [c0]
< 1370912627 78263 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :      Actual type: [a0] -> ShowS
< 1370912633 192600 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the complexity class >_<
< 1370912642 252871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (shows.length<$>take 1)<= [c0]
< 1370912643 142592 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :      Actual type: [a0] -> ShowS
< 1370912647 811211 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know :P
< 1370912651 433585 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasi-polynomial_time#Quasi-polynomial_time
< 1370912652 762732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1370912660 504754 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quasi-polynomial time algorithms are algorithms which run slower than polynomial time, yet not so slow as to be exponential time" yeah i'd rather say subexponential honestly
< 1370912684 292654 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like... the expression they have there
< 1370912692 442217 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can describe *all* running times that are neither exponential nor polynomial?
< 1370912705 634817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, between them, probably?
< 1370912705 875368 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, I mean, that are in between
< 1370912713 808301 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, there's nothing bigger than QP but smaller than EXP?
< 1370912728 271092 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1370912731 582193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is QP 'quite polynomial'
< 1370912734 797255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quasi
< 1370912739 507990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like 2^(iterated log of n) is smaller
< 1370912748 594800 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370912758 158929 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably any number of weird functions you could put in there, they just don't come up in practice?
< 1370912770 257688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t shows.length
< 1370912770 843841 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> ShowS
< 1370912787 564020 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess... it just feels like "subexponential" is a bigger thing than just that?
< 1370912796 785019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you trying to make a golf or something?
< 1370912798 8226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh here's an example
< 1370912800 337481 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another example is the best-known algorithm for the graph isomorphism problem, which runs in time 2O(√(n log n))."
< 1370912807 689649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, that's 2^O.
< 1370912822 784118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t take 1
< 1370912823 365157 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> [a]
< 1370912833 299945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a logic that can have not only the "material implication" but also the "tristate implication" (if the left side is false, the result is high-impedance)?
< 1370912834 671163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t shows.length<$>take 1
< 1370912835 140267 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> ShowS
< 1370912838 590615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-203-114.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh my head.
< 1370912847 852042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that make sense...
< 1370912958 952940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (shows.length<$>take 1)"11"
< 1370912959 279774 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ShowS
< 1370912991 946752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone is making a esolang "BelalCode"
< 1370912994 321976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (shows.length<$>take 1)"11" ""
< 1370912994 929300 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "1"
< 1370913032 166029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...duh!
< 1370913064 858838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate((shows.length<*>take 1)<= iterate(shows.length<*>take 1<=.>
< 1370915192 753000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's bad
< 1370915192 866020 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to save a copy of every strip onto my computer when I was younger. Glad I don't need to do that anymore
< 1370915276 439407 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-224-154.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1370915397 381680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-230-237.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370915643 284744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah i tried using the formatted logs but the text is huge and zooming in IE 10 breaks the formatting...
< 1370915996 263442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I used to have all the `olist comics on my server!
< 1370916003 90103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a few minutes I will again.
< 1370916017 493992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does giantitp.com throttle or something?
< 1370916033 820905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By throttle I don't mean throttle.
< 1370916039 607441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean do they get upset if you download a lot.
< 1370916109 948810 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370916119 31999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they 'throttle' you
< 1370916121 998018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1370916255 583641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a robots.txt that has a command to slow down when making automated mirrors like this, although wget doesn't understand that command, so you have to use its own command.
< 1370916288 651009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does gopher support it, though?
< 1370916302 975568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is gopher auto-throttled by the number of gopher users in the world?
< 1370916322 324302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually I made up a format for gopher to support it, although I don't know if it is used.
< 1370916354 469683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I use it?
< 1370916362 250697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Access the selector named ".robot" (without quotes) in my computer, it does includes the command to slow down.
< 1370916385 391739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher://zzo38computer.org/0.robot
< 1370916394 644675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does 0 mean?
< 1370916417 122126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 0 means the type code, it is a plain text file.
< 1370916459 2047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other type codes such as 1 for a menu, 7 if the user can enter the query text and then it is a menu, and 9 for downloading binary files.
< 1370916489 198821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I just use a space?
< 1370916527 826288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on the client whether or not it will work.
< 1370916558 376918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The type code isn't send to the server so the server won't care if the client supports it or not.
< 1370916564 967122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1370916569 886022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you write your own gopher server?
< 1370916590 154396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but even if I didn't write my own gopher server, the same thing is true.
< 1370916601 443983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you did.
< 1370916611 154870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that why it doesn't work with most gopher clients I've tried?
< 1370916674 891268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It is that your gopher clients may be broken by using a slash as the selector string even when it is blank; someone (maybe it was you?) test it and said it did that. But there is a work around: Use "root" as the selector string.
< 1370916684 286016 :maria!~canaima@200.8.221.117 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370916831 20803 :maria!~canaima@200.8.221.117 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370917082 230746 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't found any usable Gopher clients on OS X. Any recommendations?
< 1370917106 30414 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I think zzo38 is the only reason I've ever had cause to use gopher, so maybe I don't need it :D
< 1370917128 899621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: I don't know. I wrote one in shell scripts (although it was written in MinGW and probably needs to be modified), so maybe that one works.
< 1370917135 415508 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP proxies for Gopher acceptable?
< 1370917153 825249 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: That would be a good workaround
< 1370917159 570444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: For my server no; the router blocks it.
< 1370917165 225785 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeesh
< 1370917169 898480 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, o.O why?
< 1370917192 229622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Because the proxies won't make it so that Google won't index those proxies.
< 1370917246 11966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a Windows emulator or some way to compile VB6 programs for non-Windows computers, you can also try Visgopher.
< 1370917312 434051 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can use Overbite with FF
< 1370917323 377258 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried it, but it looks workable
< 1370917343 378593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can use that.
< 1370917470 752892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In languages with first-class continuations can you get the behavior of arbitrary monads to seem first-class?
< 1370917473 727541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. parsers.
< 1370917550 65442 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has Gopher, and I have Active Worlds
< 1370917561 671575 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except AW is proprietary I guess
< 1370917578 748564 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, yes I think
< 1370917612 284577 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370917683 276822 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370917705 71420 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit what's that library I fell in love with when I last looked at Scala
< 1370917709 301273 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I want to link shachaf to
< 1370917726 93110 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the benefits to gopher, anyway?
< 1370917737 443413 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-230-237.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370917739 790062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the zzo38 nature
< 1370917787 154001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Simplicity is one.
< 1370917794 338349 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, https://github.com/urso/embeddedmonads
< 1370917798 644557 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Link him to pipes.
< 1370917819 873898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there gopher over ssl
< 1370917830 819645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the screen does not have to render HTML/CSS/etc which aren't suitable for it.
< 1370917838 336742 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least a gopher equivalent to SSL
< 1370917845 732306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Probably you can do it if you want to; I don't know if any existing servers do.
< 1370917870 369017 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's useless to have a server that does it if no clients do it
< 1370917877 216166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't the gopher equivalent of SSL be SSL?
< 1370917883 191084 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it encourages clients to adapt it
< 1370917886 576717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's application protocol agnostic
< 1370917924 565616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is occasionally annoying, e.g. the duplication of HTTP Host: header and SSL's SNI
< 1370917933 958441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, that is why it doesn't matter, if it uses it, if the client supports it, etc, just use something that allow you to make SSL connection with normal connections, and then clearly it will work.
< 1370917939 646179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, drracket is kind of nice as a lightweight experimenting with code thing.
< 1370917950 729947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok
< 1370917975 638257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's annoying to use Racket as a Scheme implementation
< 1370917982 435182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do #lang r5rs then you lose out on libraries or something
< 1370918017 45005 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Libraries that R5RS has no standard way to access anyway?
< 1370918035 846708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it could be a pseudo-TLD so that if you connect to "example.org.ssl" then the DNS client will interfere with it and make it a SSL connection locally in the network driver.
< 1370918050 548475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that is a strange idea, one that I kind of like
< 1370918075 996900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well one problem is that #lang r5rs prints cons cells in a weird way
< 1370918092 284011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket distinguishes mutable and immutable cons cells, and the former are written like {2 . 3} rather than (2 . 3)
< 1370918101 148684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and r5rs cons creates a mutable cell, naturally
< 1370918146 520327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm but it's different if you select "R5RS" from the menu, it seems
< 1370918154 519083 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I agree about drracket
< 1370918180 818425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://docs.racket-lang.org/plot/ looks neat
< 1370918211 770242 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1370918447 606444 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... don't think I like how read console:// works in Rebol
< 1370918459 75262 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If stdin is the console, it will only read one line
< 1370918466 589079 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good scheme
< 1370918476 163590 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So can't really do cat with it... I think
< 1370918546 346357 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I/O is very schemey in Rebol. Including Tcp
< 1370918551 344321 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a tcp:// and a udp://
< 1370918582 40078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That logic about birds that can typically fly seems to me like pull-up resistors and pull-down resistors, kind of. Isn't it?
< 1370918797 503289 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here are the schemes available on my copy of Rebol3
< 1370918808 796740 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370918851 451892 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :system:// console:// callback:// file:// dir:// event:// dns:// tcp:// clipboard:// http:// 
< 1370919147 707489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help how do delimited continuations work
< 1370919170 371018 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pray to oleg and ye shall receive
< 1370919206 112002 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, when you shift, what you're shifting takes full control
< 1370919218 127862 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's given an argument representing what would have been the rest of the computation
< 1370919237 91364 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it wants, it can feed that "rest of the computation" a value as many or as few times as it wants, and use those results as it pleases
< 1370919244 188079 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And whatever it returns is the final result
< 1370919301 144860 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's much like >>=... >>= gets as an argument a function, which it can use as many or as few times as it wants to determine its final result
< 1370919396 246140 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do { a <- ma; b <- mb }... the first >>= that that translates into gets to choose whether the rest of do block gets run at all, or how many times, and what happens to those... exactly like the expression given to shift gets to choose what happens to the rest of the computation, whether to use it and how many times in calculating its final result
< 1370919609 675951 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370920389 771905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370920476 802692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1370920500 893022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to write continuationy code in scheme and missing the feeling of fighting the type checker
< 1370920523 542471 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delimited continuations seem like the sort of thing that might have an equivalent in category theory.
< 1370920576 602782 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett TOPIC #esoteric :опасное безумие | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | SEUTA KEULAEPEUTEU
< 1370920625 284614 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Implement overly strict and completely nonsensical typechecker in scheme, hth
< 1370920661 734295 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :error compiling (+ 4 5): type mismatch: Even, Odd
< 1370920684 384678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike
< 1370920686 657670 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be ridiculous. + isn't a valid operation on Odd.
< 1370920688 533533 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :np
< 1370920694 414009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels like home
< 1370920708 758036 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medical foods are foods that are specially formulated and intended for the dietary management of a disease that has distinctive nutritional needs that cannot be met by normal diet alone.
< 1370920711 883268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: That's why you get an error!
< 1370920722 255425 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should implement a typechecker based on PID controllers and neural nets.
< 1370920731 327746 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, that sounds exciting.
< 1370920827 686474 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of declaring the entire program to be either correct or incorrect, it simply assigns an error value to every little piece of the program.
< 1370920909 826562 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your program will still run no matter what, but it will attempt to spend more time running code with a lower error value.
< 1370920920 360805 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all of the code has a high error value, the program will just run really slowly.
< 1370920921 341104 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then deletes the line, like fuckitjs or certain versions of GHC
< 1370922005 553943 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370922073 377125 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :** Script error: cannot use write on port! value
< 1370922078 961768 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGUMENTS:
< 1370922079 76909 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :        destination (port! file! url! block!)
< 1370922082 191160 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wats

< 1370922088 713588 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep
< 1370922209 367290 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even manage to write a cat program in Rebol
< 1370922210 750137 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suck
< 1370922362 840264 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What are these advanced semantics in Rebol?
< 1370922402 275461 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell phantom_hoover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2RzY2Mzr94 game
< 1370922402 383411 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370922431 635667 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370923258 858578 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370923865 389012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did whoever added 'hazanavicius coraile oussama bin vodid muhammad jihad pirlgrimage "hello world" von dreyfus said' intend to make the BelalCode article? Well, it can be put back on in case it is actually made and that such a thing is working.
< 1370923939 566163 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom_Hoover I'm going to design a Brainfuck-equivalent language.
< 1370923939 648485 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1370923992 648276 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not actually BF equiv. It won't be able to represent +- or >< or ]..[ or other such atrocities that I can think of.
< 1370924026 387057 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370924026 943983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I am one thought of things like that too, a kind of compression that cannot represent such things.
< 1370924101 937972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: kmc can confirm that anything + acid is a nice combination
< 1370924126 52045 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, my ideas: In some circumstances, some characters are impossible. With only 7 commands taken, there's room for one pseudocommand. Let that command expand into two commands on decompression. I _think_ that would work on random data
< 1370924127 936232 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION snickers a bit at the PS4 press con at E3.

< 1370924142 159306 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shall sum it up for you: "Playstation: It's Not Xbox."

< 1370924185 58508 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
< 1370924188 387550 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But let's try this: It expands into the previous character twice. And, if the previous was a pseudocharacter, then that pseudocharacter's character to expand into 4 times
< 1370924188 997095 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc
< 1370924221 430791 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yup.
< 1370924224 528982 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if RLE might be a better idea
< 1370924229 303812 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is certainly interesting
< 1370924242 647952 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there circumstances that would give room for two pseudocharacters?
< 1370924271 521960 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, pseudocommands
< 1370924337 887458 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, are there better ways to do fewer than 3 bits per command? Since each command after 1 is restricted doesn't need 3 bits, what ways besides a pseudocharacter that expands into two could take advantage of that?
< 1370924469 506992 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370924639 696543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use some dynamic Huffman, maybe, with the checking of what is redundancy, possibly in more ways that your specification.
< 1370924726 201811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone wrote comment about Malbolge, on the "99 bottles of beer" program, the comment:   HOW can human (without drinking 99 bottles of bear) write in this language???
< 1370924737 441719 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Arithmetic encoding?
< 1370924743 625795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you write in this language if you drink 99 bottles of beer (or of bear)?
< 1370924765 390617 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One can get fractional bits that way.
< 1370924802 60421 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, hmm
< 1370924858 94847 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need 3 bits/command most of the time, it's only on occasion that I can get away with a little less
< 1370924884 69460 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370925170 365346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: disconfirm
< 1370925579 123165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1370925629 856327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ericlippert.com/2013/06/10/construction-destruction/ was pretty confusing when I thought it was talking about C++.
< 1370925663 586001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it's C#
< 1370925688 817509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are small syntactic clues but i definitely can imagine skimming it and thinking it's C++
< 1370925714 569770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1370925721 277234 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....system/ports/output isn't completely implemented yet
< 1370925825 368600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the context of your acid claim anywaychaf
< 1370925841 618595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:14  Btw, tables + acid-state is a nice combination.
< 1370925845 87227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1370925859 707762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish there were some state of the US particularly known for its acid
< 1370925860 53069 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course Rebol 2 is more stable. It's also proprietary.
< 1370925863 985732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past kmc has compared """acid-state""" to haskell
< 1370925870 402849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rolleyes
< 1370925871 305768 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone wants a deadfish impl. in a proprietary language
< 1370925876 91701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE WANTS IT
< 1370925879 672766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1370925879 920969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEADFISH IN MIRANDA NOWWW
< 1370925893 951074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(acid-state is a drugz euphemizm btw)
< 1370925902 947451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're on the same page shacha
< 1370925904 717183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f
< 1370925907 991545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(page of blotter acid that is)
< 1370925914 828638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Well, I don't, but you can do it if you want it, I suppose.
< 1370925933 243159 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I want Rebol 3 to be in a half decent state
< 1370925972 827999 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can do this:
< 1370925977 555111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.com/search?q=blotter+paper+lsd&tbm=isch
< 1370925989 95758 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :read-char: does [to string! read/part console:// 1]
< 1370925993 572863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz uze encrypted.google.com thx hth
< 1370926039 27157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what it oes better but it does something better.
< 1370926041 180320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe referers?
< 1370926045 174742 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does is just a convenient way to make an anonymous func that doesn't take arguments)
< 1370926104 104329 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"According to Google, the difference is with handling referrer information when clicking on an ad."
< 1370926111 892962 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/32367/what-is-the-difference-between-https-google-com-and-https-encrypted-google-c
< 1370926139 134925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw once i consumed a whole bunch of acid and it messed with my tongue for days
< 1370926154 936530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm referring to citric acid * malic acid of course)
< 1370926161 260937 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally
< 1370926166 930041 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As if there's another way to take that
< 1370926236 706705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I get in the habit of using * instead of +?
< 1370926247 252199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you have both of two things, instead of either of two things.
< 1370926264 44205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1370926291 780582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. tables * acid-state is a nice combination.
< 1370926298 713172 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370926305 669056 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :·
< 1370926308 737030 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :×
< 1370926323 419710 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370926327 152593 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :∩
< 1370926343 225403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :∇×v
< 1370926343 601075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ǔ
< 1370926353 409755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa dude it's like a u with another u above it
< 1370926359 321243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŭ = w
< 1370926359 648198 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUDE
< 1370926362 485145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a u with another u's hat on
< 1370926394 634738 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o̊
< 1370926420 894053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :m̼
< 1370926477 371663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x̽
< 1370926564 7315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2F31D  COMBINING BRITISH ACCENT
< 1370926652 906346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym ACCENT INDICATOR + COMBINING ACCENT COUNTRY CODE U + COMBINING ACCENT COUNTRY CODE K
< 1370926882 214035 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370926909 314158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "seuta keulaepeuteu" mean
< 1370926918 996505 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370926936 752577 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370927003 238724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a romanization of the korean name for StarCraft?
< 1370927022 714842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370927027 398841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "bug in google translate"
< 1370927035 341086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-
< 1370927040 112161 :sprockle_!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370927069 874272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google doesn't do phonetic latin typing for korean
< 1370927074 278646 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370927149 271637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :korean: secretly related to finnish?
< 1370927264 768184 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure some linguist has proposed that
< 1370927271 860092 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish isn't IE either!!
< 1370927284 662740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1370927306 360938 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-the-Finnish-and-Korean-languages-may-share-a-common-root i fucking love quora
< 1370927466 984019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?share=1
< 1370927467 56073 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1370927523 760040 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow why does that work
< 1370927566 915066 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural%E2%80%93Altaic_languages oh fuck me it really is a theory.
< 1370927882 87969 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I've been rather miffed about the lack of phonetic typing for Korean in Google Translate, recently
< 1370927890 682019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah really
< 1370927900 217893 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is korean typed?
< 1370927900 321300 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to learn Korean
< 1370927914 370549 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: With a keyboard
< 1370927918 259553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one jamo at a time
< 1370927923 478369 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be a smartass please
< 1370927938 962976 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reading about burmese input yesterday and am now reasonably sure typing is impossible
< 1370927955 114431 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually not bad once you understand hangul, a bit
< 1370927961 410599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the dual of rean (categoriez joke)
< 1370927970 477373 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the 2-set layout on my machine
< 1370927972 483708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's why they don't have internet in burma
< 1370928014 702409 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't started learning hanja, yet, though
< 1370928026 220261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need those
< 1370928059 378216 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :names, maybe?
< 1370928069 386978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the packaging of Shin Ramyun
< 1370928109 168500 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Today, a good working knowledge of Chinese characters is still important for anyone who wishes to study older texts (up to about the 1990s), or anyone who wishes to read scholarly texts in the humanities."
< 1370928118 356029 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. (though i think that's a typo for "1890s")
< 1370928121 987375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool
< 1370928130 759242 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, why did I learn Latin? To see connections between all the Romance languages. Learn hanja for the same reason one learns hanzi or kanji, I guess
< 1370928152 186017 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that really work, i mean, korean and chinese aren't related like romance languages are
< 1370928176 301939 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The choice of symbols are, though
< 1370928198 473355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the choice of symbols based on pronunciation or meaning or a terrible mix of both?
< 1370928220 32966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn Latin because it is a dead language so existing words and grammar and so on no longer changes/evolves (although new words are occasionally made up, still)
< 1370928222 556745 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More that latter
< 1370928250 760189 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: iirc kanji have never been pronounced very much like chinese?
< 1370928251 930904 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1370928257 422071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is latin for Bike
< 1370928272 574763 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«One way of adapting hanja to write Korean in such systems (such as Gugyeol) was to represent native Korean grammatical particles and other words solely according to their pronunciation. For example, Gugyeol uses the characters 爲尼 to transcribe the Korean word "hăni", in modern Korean, that means "does, and so". However, in Chinese, the same characters are read as the expression "wéi ní," meaning "becoming a nun."»
< 1370928287 351391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Kind of, especially in compound words, but still it is an approximation.
< 1370928301 393510 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bikepodes
< 1370928343 371059 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much Chinese, but apparently in Mandarin the sound of a character is derived from the main radical and then that is effected by another radical (usually to indicate the consonant sound)
< 1370928362 835891 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: I think I read about that, too
< 1370928367 648243 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reading a korean comic and a high school student insulted another student's mislinguistics by saying King Sejong would be rolling in his grave
< 1370928370 567314 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that was weird
< 1370928390 135891 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese pronunciation of kanji is similar to the Mandarin, but the "Japaneseness" is still quite evident
< 1370928403 480538 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once you'ev seen a lot of the words next to each other, the patterns are easier to spot
< 1370928417 733501 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough Korean, yet, to say anything similar
< 1370928421 643409 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you've
< 1370928437 658929 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That's pretty funny about Sejong :D
< 1370928452 355445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of korean comics did you see that terrible korean comic
< 1370928467 257039 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, i've read a lot of terrible comics from various places
< 1370928475 49923 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i read whatever you're referring to? it's possible!
< 1370928481 278779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google that terrible korean comic
< 1370928482 936159 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=20&weekday=tue
< 1370928483 8069 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: 2011 미스테리 단편 :: 네이버 만화
< 1370928483 180944 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1370928486 521640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible in the sense of unpleasant
< 1370928489 254374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recommend it
< 1370928490 405399 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm impressed
< 1370928501 219656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese kanji has different reading, kun-yomi, on-yomi, and in one page of the Akagi manga I have even seen a kanji that is using the English reading!
< 1370928505 256310 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it the horror story one
< 1370928513 483657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370928532 148410 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ick, that's unpleasant
< 1370928564 155840 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know they used the English reading of kanji, ever, but they did just once in Akagi.
< 1370928660 517545 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how like every korean webcomic is on naver. whoever runs that's got a pretty good monopoly
< 1370928684 886109 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too many pop-scares in that comic
< 1370928746 466132 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's pretty mediocre but that's horror for you.
< 1370928842 133289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait the version i saw was in english
< 1370928846 624809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this even the same comic
< 1370928851 546958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway not reading hth
< 1370928856 797839 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it
< 1370928867 706212 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m so fucking helped right now
< 1370928966 738922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand why programmers get paid so much money
< 1370928987 708426 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skilled labor? Why do plumbers get paid so much?
< 1370928998 137060 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're covered in shit
< 1370929000 937687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do plumbers get paid
< 1370929016 766745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true that most programming is plumbing
< 1370929019 511293 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: $35-75
< 1370929025 771481 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :per hour
< 1370929039 860907 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Licensing gets you about double that
< 1370929054 205263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what distinguishes the $35/hr plumbers from the $75/hr plumbers
< 1370929063 938578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how easy/hard is it to get 40hrs of work per week
< 1370929066 648175 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :minimalism and craftsmanship
< 1370929081 695046 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experience, I guess. I think it's largely an apprenticeship sort of trade
< 1370929085 880519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1370929120 263026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there have been various proposals to reorganize programming as an apprenticeship sort of trade
< 1370929125 614969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if it's a good idea or not
< 1370929148 157401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do feel like most of the practical stuff I know I've learned on the job rather than in school
< 1370929162 40979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the stuff I learned in school has enriched my life and indirectly makes me better at practical stuff too
< 1370929184 848446 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how many people are even qualified to compare and contrast training/certification models
< 1370929196 299974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1370929230 565072 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should find a plumber who dabbles in database programming
< 1370929252 93460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably relatively few
< 1370929256 60379 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with apprenticeship-style jobs of all sorts is that it's hard to get into.
< 1370929262 107506 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess academia is... sort of apprenticey...
< 1370929263 409270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably almost no intersection with the people who write blog posts about how programmers should be taught / managed / hired
< 1370929264 176958 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plumbers usually have plumbers in the family.
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< 1370929294 121664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well once you're a tenured professor you aren't getting your hands dirty so much anymore
< 1370929296 897316 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google plumbing blog
< 1370929299 835519 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.allareaplumbing.net/
< 1370929299 907308 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: All Area Plumbing Blog - Ask The Plumber Blog | Plumbing Advice | Affordable ...
< 1370929302 655625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much of the work is done by the apprentices
< 1370929312 340748 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: tht's it. we need professors to take up plumbing
< 1370929326 948399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reflecting earlier on the fact that I don't know a single person who dropped out of grad school and regrets the decision
< 1370929340 61000 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :/
< 1370929352 176327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not to say nobody should do grad school, but if you're on the fence about it then maybe it's not for you
< 1370929352 664494 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless your goal is to be a professor, grad school in CS is almost totally pointless.
< 1370929355 233426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like startups!
< 1370929358 818072 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as someone who's intending to go to grad school it's uh, there's a lot of reasons not to be encouraged
< 1370929364 143314 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that it's in CS)
< 1370929365 703965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes, in fact you can do much better research in industry, in many cases
< 1370929368 722814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: bio?
< 1370929376 510506 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird neurocrap, hopefully
< 1370929380 138322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1370929385 510266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone doing neurocrap at Brown
< 1370929395 323902 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math grad school 4 lyfe
< 1370929399 629272 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^
< 1370929409 932443 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you're in math, you can't make anything of your degree at any level.
< 1370929411 263466 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why not.
< 1370929413 23589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :math grad students seem abnormally happy compared to CS or experimental science ones
< 1370929417 775732 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :related: did you know there are articles like "An implantable wireless neural interface for recording cortical circuit dynamics in moving primates" in real journals that you can really read
< 1370929422 811765 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's all the amphetamines
< 1370929423 249316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: are the days of hiring maths students in finance over?
< 1370929429 655040 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I am the happiest human being alive.
< 1370929430 309894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fun
< 1370929438 914780 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://iopscience.iop.org/1741-2552/10/2/026010
< 1370929472 416132 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard math grads are different from other grads though
< 1370929478 74455 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you don't know what you're going to study, going in
< 1370929496 919463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm told that you spend your first few years reading a few of those yellow death books and working all the problems
< 1370929517 21057 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellow death?
< 1370929518 709364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which point you know which sub-sub-sub-field of math you want to study, and you find the six people in the world who do the same
< 1370929520 928113 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Springers
< 1370929528 665567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Springer Verlag Graduate Texts in Mathematics
< 1370929536 686129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://math.arizona.edu/~savitt/GTM.html
< 1370929537 109391 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, the horror
< 1370929537 698536 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That's pretty true. I think I'm going to focus on algebra, but that's pretty vague
< 1370929547 869699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you just like chill with those six people
< 1370929553 69526 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda like the GTMs
< 1370929560 406022 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe math should like be split up
< 1370929565 666836 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sure seems like there's a lot of it!
< 1370929582 100278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more as quickly as people can think it up
< 1370929590 283638 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like wtf does an algebraist have to talk about with a dynamicist most of the time
< 1370929600 90102 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like if you grouped ethologists and immunologists together
< 1370929600 239071 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much. Calculus taught me that continuous math is weird and unpleasant to me, so everything I like to do now is discrete and perfect and beautiful :D
< 1370929610 219777 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk. continuity 4 lyfe.
< 1370929611 267059 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hell, most schools have only a small department of math
< 1370929613 193854 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh by the way guys the Apple keynote at WWDC mentioned some of my stuffs.
< 1370929614 511273 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, y'know.
< 1370929615 953882 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm famous.
< 1370929617 392717 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just FYI.
< 1370929619 745480 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :our school does it right
< 1370929624 650994 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: can i have your autograph
< 1370929633 188460 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the CBC put my name in an article, therefore I'm famous
< 1370929633 445847 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: $300
< 1370929636 707403 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, they quoted me
< 1370929641 487598 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you really are a grad student
< 1370929642 675789 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had Dummit for Algebra, so I feel pretty awesome :D
< 1370929647 874505 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: lol X-D
< 1370929696 527753 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another real neuroshit paper that's sci-fi as fuck is "Improving brain-machine interface performance by decoding intended future movements" but alas i lack pubmed access
< 1370929723 115867 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think I might have pubmed access
< 1370929727 392035 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can check, if you like
< 1370929745 787547 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well i guess it's JNE again hm
< 1370929757 192070 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://iopscience.iop.org/1741-2552/10/2/026011/
< 1370929770 808167 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how the cyborg monkeys feel about all this
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< 1370930239 977120 :Bamba705!~ADG705@37.142.50.132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.me  
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< 1370930301 219796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya got iBooted
< 1370930322 992631 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Sadly, my university's PubMed shit seems to have disappeared :(
< 1370930327 178501 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well
< 1370930350 958141 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks anyway, i'll just have to content myself with CPG legs
< 1370930802 395603 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What on earth is iBooter?
< 1370930903 703529 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"iBooTer is the one of the best Booters on the internet. Cheap & Great attack strength with 24/7 Support!! So come join the Family" i'm excited
< 1370930911 757668 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind, Had to go to their terms of service to figure out what the hell service they offer.
< 1370930956 723877 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, for those prices I hope they actually deliver
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< 1370931462 638791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: itym chiiiiiiiiip hth
< 1370931472 673612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
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< 1370935385 69299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :опасное безумие | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | SEUTA  KEULAEPEUTEU
< 1370935400 279190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :опасное безумие | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | SEUTA KEULAEPEUTEU | nid wyf yn y swyddfa
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< 1370939810 165715 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh by the way guys the Apple keynote at WWDC mentioned some of my stuffs. <-- what kind of stuffs?
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< 1370944034 755688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone's offline friends? Just murder them and their friends will be all yours: that's how it works.
< 1370944035 102648 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website?
< 1370944035 616082 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but, it's this crazy/ wacky issue settled first, but it's a more familiar feeling, but never one to believe in love at all? is that the story?
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< 1370948585 523600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does anyone know the limit of (1/e)x^e as e -> 0 for positive x? i'm thinking it's ln x but i'm not sure
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< 1370948734 883657 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram alpha says it's infinity from positive direction, -inf from negative?
< 1370948754 592032 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the series expansion is 1/c + log(x) + c/2 * log(x)^2 + O(c^2)
< 1370948759 969901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess that basically reduces to 1/c 
< 1370948890 288711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's
< 1370948890 932253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c
< 1370948895 393549 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right
< 1370948896 859820 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1370948899 760895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is c
< 1370948936 166086 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oops
< 1370948937 914735 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I replaced e with 
< 1370948939 998076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*e with c
< 1370948944 561104 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it thought e was the constant -_-
< 1370948945 660910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i got that expression by integrating x^(e-1) on the assumption that integration was continuous fwiw)
< 1370949003 415770 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I did um... 1/c * x^c as c->0
< 1370949043 522539 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that log x term in the series expansion looks tantalising though
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< 1370952333 22121 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1370952413 686224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait
< 1370952440 558059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when x=e (the actual constant, that is) the limit isn't well-defined
< 1370952451 180155 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clearly it's not log e
< 1370952503 90682 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 1/e + log(x) so it's not well defined to begin with is it?
< 1370952508 234069 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since 1/0 is well yeah
< 1370952531 873512 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370952583 846839 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the log(x) would be swamped, I'd think
< 1370952646 793372 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I buy Scrolls?
< 1370952742 414514 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in the game
< 1370952751 380123 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as in bits of paper
< 1370952776 979033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We do not want to be the first software in history to be delayed due to a dwindling supply of cats" -- apple at wwdc
< 1370952787 346290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally apple tackles the real issues
< 1370952915 348981 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems to be exactly the opposite problem Bay 12 games is facing
< 1370953175 660140 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, imo no
< 1370953189 571342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i not impressed the awfulness of mojang upon you
< 1370953352 795607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you've impressed the awfulness of their coding style upon be sufficiently to deter me from applying to work for Mojang as a programmer
< 1370953359 243171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct
< 1370953359 493759 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script)
< 1370953361 39649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Will you, yourself, bring an end to all of this? 
< 1370953361 445064 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the king awaits. you saved our queen? you see, the mammon machine!
< 1370953363 193354 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the quality of planning of Notch
< 1370953373 847026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I forgot to tell the bestest thing! 
< 1370953381 668210 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seeing as Notch had little contribution to Scrolls...
< 1370953423 261233 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday, in Lugano, when we went to the hotel to pick up our luggage, an Indian-looking woman came to me and asked if I was "the creator of Minecraft"; apparently her son was completely convinced I was.
< 1370953439 716187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I don't look at all like Notch, except for having a similar hat.
< 1370953457 221170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do (allegedly, anyway) resemble Jeb a bit, though, so maybe it was just a communications problem.
< 1370953463 275173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that I'm either of them.)
< 1370953486 814370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps all Scandinavians look alike to "them".
< 1370953515 256236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was the day before yesterday. Anyway.
< 1370953758 712417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't notch wear a fedora
< 1370953927 379092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn fizzie is the creator of Minecraft.
< 1370953935 693275 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1370953948 78343 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370954218 840154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know about hats, but I have this thing that's a bit like one, I guess.
< 1370955864 111098 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370955896 335900 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1370956082 30617 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370956337 815285 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: reboot
< 1370956517 244860 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1370956773 87820 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370958085 51578 :k0herence!~ghassan@121.121.82.95 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370958109 918432 :k0herence!~ghassan@121.121.82.95 PART :#esoteric
< 1370959154 730780 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370959194 63249 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370960204 815204 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1370960324 766657 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1370960825 484745 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1370961469 924712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1370962669 103340 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370962949 788972 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-51-15.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1370963008 855822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370963149 517542 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I made a little emacs cheet sheet
< 1370963228 616084 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe too little
< 1370963233 360116 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can barely read it
< 1370963342 36291 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370963790 216080 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should write it in a text file
< 1370963791 420015 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with emacs
< 1370965292 750075 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370965660 59578 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1370965733 889386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should configure a key combination in your Emacs to access it.
< 1370965750 544264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The key combination should be prominently listed on top of the cheat sheet, since you'll be needing it often.
< 1370966427 978410 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370966502 47726 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370966669 143806 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested
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< 1370967037 961065 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370967077 811592 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1370967581 383369 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370967606 367840 :Pb!~neuropuff@108-66-166-228.lightspeed.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1370967687 365297 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, btw, thanks for your anthracite mod
< 1370967703 358578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks anthracite
< 1370967705 125012 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, anthracite. Thanthracite.
< 1370967971 375493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one day i should flesh that out and balance it (ahahaha)
< 1370968077 36594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370968085 537866 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i give you the components that adjusted iron ore distribution, i don't remember
< 1370968524 705103 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, maybe, I've got loads of iron ore
< 1370968536 642677 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact yes
< 1370968549 672766 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that really needs rebalancing
< 1370968567 722916 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370968571 50245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've made a fortress that's 4 years old without trade
< 1370968585 320299 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the magnetite deposits, those things are way too big to be in every other layer
< 1370968709 676274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^28 `mod` 29
< 1370968711 192917 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1370968718 647339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's dumb
< 1370968723 490394 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^14 `mod` 29
< 1370968724 684748 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  28
< 1370968728 273654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^4 `mod` 29
< 1370968729 882092 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :  16
< 1370969513 388809 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370969695 794981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370969978 192302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sayitwithbacon.com set fire to america
< 1370970111 186751 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in canada they have Real Bacon though!
< 1370970861 998815 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370970945 710951 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe70:53e1 QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1370970992 294446 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world's most tasteful gift
< 1370971007 973022 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jacket potato?
< 1370971018 980621 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370971124 737926 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370971150 407615 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370971226 936707 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370971265 687526 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370971288 478546 :`0x00!~ping@u.nxsh.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a cool channel. 
< 1370971298 868217 :`0x00!~ping@u.nxsh.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found it randomly. has been around for a while?
< 1370971316 802491 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome `0x00
< 1370971320 684974 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​10`0x1400: Welcome to 07the internation08al06 11hub for esote11ric 04programming lan07guage design and dep13l10oyment! For more in09for05matio14n, c10heck out03 our wiki: http://esolangs14.o06r13g/wiki/M09ain_P05ag08e. (F03or the other ki04nd of es12oteric06a, tr14y #esot03eric11 on ir07c.dal02.14net.)
< 1370971324 151531 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long is a while
< 1370971330 398898 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been around like a week at least
< 1370971445 50170 :`0x00!~ping@u.nxsh.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tnx
< 1370971447 256008 :`0x00!~ping@u.nxsh.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads

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< 1370972114 603387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: woow
< 1370972117 187578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a week is a long time
< 1370972156 686869 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes its pretty amazing
< 1370972204 340489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 1 week in nanoseconds
< 1370972237 270343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 1 week in nanoseconds
< 1370972244 155875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frank 1 week -> nanoseconds
< 1370972245 140112 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: frank: not found
< 1370972254 679619 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1 week -> nanoseconds
< 1370972258 160096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with you lambdabot
< 1370972263 152892 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :604800000000000
< 1370972272 827196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lambdabot isn't even in here
< 1370972280 725351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's having issues
< 1370972302 561482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how my lambdabot /query got messed up and renamed to /query Guestblahblahblah.
< 1370972312 269005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Cale's fault
< 1370972321 814656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has a cron job or something running the *old* lambdabot
< 1370972328 578125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I then tried to "debug" the L.hs of
< 1370972330 620110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for hours
< 1370972336 950683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not realising it was the old lambdabot
< 1370972349 108830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messing up my /query isn't a very Caley behavior.
< 1370972373 442223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I just realized I closed my lambdabot window which had my list of suggestions for lambdabot.
< 1370972398 769199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had suggestions?
< 1370972410 72288 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370972415 106645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally.
< 1370972424 499335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what
< 1370972424 702302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People in ##categorytheory were complaining about the absence of lambdabot.
< 1370972432 524282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is it not in the join list?
< 1370972434 809840 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then add it on?
< 1370972434 992746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason I'm not in the admin list... I wonder why.
< 1370972440 382289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370972442 255770 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##categorytheory ?
< 1370972446 464098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@join ##categorytheory
< 1370972458 229408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :added it to online.rc too
< 1370972461 912087 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a good channel
< 1370972492 191582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good channel is a dead channel
< 1370972493 149736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes
< 1370972504 682684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Identity ()
< 1370972507 761909 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Identity {runIdentity = ()}
< 1370972508 474927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> In Nothing
< 1370972511 375452 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = Nothing}
< 1370972515 112069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ the things I do for you
< 1370972530 822165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other suggestions were to fix the quote thing to be more like HackEgo rather than the nick->quote nonsense.
< 1370972547 931327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:41 -!- `0x00 [~ping@u.nxsh.org] has joined ##categorytheory
< 1370972548 162895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:41 -!- `0x00 [~ping@u.nxsh.org] has left ##categorytheory []
< 1370972550 446733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's nice that you can quote non-IRC things non-awkwardly
< 1370972582 380093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... is just as non-awkward.
< 1370972593 721833 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :saul gorn?
< 1370972611 939254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:43:07  > id18:43:09    No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0)
< 1370972612 303521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. literally add "SaulGorn says: ..." to the quote database
< 1370972615 130177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:43:09     arising from a use of `M1506157215.show_M1506157215'18:43:09   The type variable `a0' is ambiguous18:43:09   Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s)18:43:09   Note: there are several potential instances:
< 1370972620 217479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:43:11  [7 @more lines]
< 1370972633 879737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why ExtendedDefaultingRules aren't firing????
< 1370972640 892858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why am i not in the @admin list
< 1370972641 312704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they fire for > undefined
< 1370972730 371724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you gotta problem with saul gorn
< 1370972769 470804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> print
< 1370972770 802198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id
< 1370972770 912644 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  <() -> IO ()>
< 1370972772 127189 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0)
< 1370972772 199164 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1370972772 990930 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant look saul gorn up because my dns isnt working
< 1370972776 234572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know why these would differ
< 1370972811 379029 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one of thos extended defaulting rules isnt extended =enough=
< 1370972817 293312 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> const
< 1370972818 415588 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable b0)
< 1370972818 487617 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1370972822 901774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: 4.2.2.2, 8.8.8.8
< 1370972826 442583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://128.91.234.106/~rclark/gorn.html
< 1370972826 514617 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> return
< 1370972827 663307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1370972828 796948 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable1 m0)
< 1370972828 907583 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use...
< 1370972834 901239 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1370972835 627123 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thacchaf
< 1370972850 723020 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's the show constraint on print?
< 1370972853 861225 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show constraint
< 1370972860 758808 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show
< 1370972861 877426 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  <() -> [Char]>
< 1370972861 949156 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read
< 1370972863 73629 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0)
< 1370972863 145523 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1370972889 591230 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think its Show but why
< 1370972911 414291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :show no!!
< 1370972937 706564 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good compendium
< 1370972940 914451 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks saul gorn
< 1370972946 352944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote SaulGorn
< 1370972946 465969 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :SaulGorn says: A formalist is one who cannot understand a theory unless it is meaningless.
< 1370972955 468993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks saul gorn
< 1370972978 57557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: but
< 1370972979 315493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined
< 1370972980 151614 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1370972981 26550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :works
< 1370972983 584142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thats forall a. a
< 1370972993 68074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hM
< 1370972996 453101 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: a -> a
< 1370972997 600239 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0)
< 1370972997 718474 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1370972997 965903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because its "wrapped in a print"
< 1370972999 760028 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^
< 1370973000 932811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because
< 1370973002 873809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its doing
< 1370973004 48164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :show undefined
< 1370973008 504578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that induces a Show constraint
< 1370973010 325714 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: Show a => a -> a
< 1370973010 911480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the defaulting fires
< 1370973013 441455 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  <() -> ()>
< 1370973015 363047 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^
< 1370973017 282931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why
< 1370973026 14393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it meant to default everything to ().......
< 1370973031 48057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :including things you wanna be Typeable
< 1370973032 123642 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: Typeable a => a -> a
< 1370973034 200246 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0)
< 1370973034 272285 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1370973035 844603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: Typeable a => a
< 1370973038 100412 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1370973040 528037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?????
< 1370973042 347840 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not a function
< 1370973047 124277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370973049 950582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's intentionally not
< 1370973056 858260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uiuaf
< 1370973060 675135 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itll only do the Show instance for -> if its a function
< 1370973064 888973 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370973065 766389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg
< 1370973069 229585 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Show instance for -> is what needs typable
< 1370973069 956392 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't understand what i was checking for
< 1370973072 205917 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :????
< 1370973074 754928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't understand what i was checking for.
< 1370973085 185077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, my current hypothesis is maybe ExtendedDefaultingRules don't apply to the prerequisites of an instance
< 1370973085 715915 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its obvious that itd give an exception????
< 1370973092 539570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no?
< 1370973102 192335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering whether it would default with Typeable there
< 1370973129 596918 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=/
< 1370973146 304451 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: ()
< 1370973148 335843 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1370973151 268696 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-(
< 1370973163 559549 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is show strict for ()!!!!!!!!
< 1370973180 964410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: it s better that way...........................................
< 1370973202 623336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> absurd
< 1370973205 174004 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `absurd'
< 1370973207 807073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add Data.Void.
< 1370973232 862041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['A'..'Z']
< 1370973234 608916 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
< 1370973245 596998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine
< 1370973245 746887 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1370973247 570079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow lambdabot has really gone downhill
< 1370973247 678192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> absurd
< 1370973250 365359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view _1 (1,2)
< 1370973251 316180 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  L.hs:96:1:
< 1370973251 387211 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Data.Void: Can't be safely imported! The module itself isn'...
< 1370973252 561947 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  L.hs:96:1:
< 1370973252 670543 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Data.Void: Can't be safely imported! The module itself isn'...
< 1370973256 547608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg
< 1370973262 566169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine
< 1370973262 668438 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1370973273 860729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should just fix the packages in question.
< 1370973279 77420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have commit rights to all of them except parallel.
< 1370973592 33237 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370973736 647522 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370974289 459660 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1370974484 38292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370974933 921262 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370977387 47471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi
< 1370977682 651696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan
< 1370977700 440175 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1370978317 905870 :kallisti!~eris@adsl-184-36-230-155.asm.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370978318 17063 :kallisti!~eris@adsl-184-36-230-155.asm.bellsouth.net QUIT :Changing host
< 1370978318 17203 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370978451 695335 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370978559 507484 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: are you there
< 1370978707 443331 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370978943 744968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> In Nothing
< 1370978947 499162 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370978950 610155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> In Nothing
< 1370978954 373330 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370978957 818310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh.
< 1370978959 180054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> In Nothing
< 1370978961 956356 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = Nothing}
< 1370978979 846995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting ++ ")}" in read disgusting
< 1370978980 797512 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.read: no parse
< 1370978993 823204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let foo = In (Just foo) in foo
< 1370978996 673446 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = Just (In {out = Just (In {out = Just (In {out = Just (In {out = J...
< 1370979009 328448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370979012 730952 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1370979016 495440 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In (Just ice)
< 1370979017 244997 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979021 719870 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979023 293663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979027 679114 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979029 512877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979032 441994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOYU
< 1370979033 200902 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979035 237594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG
< 1370979036 531603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to hEL
< 1370979037 576889 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG
< 1370979039 549125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1370979042 282250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979045 459458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979046 14283 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979047 265619 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic
< 1370979048 479944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979049 131405 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979051 504570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979052 185998 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979054 535265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979055 399777 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979057 559396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm
< 1370979058 376730 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg
< 1370979058 800149 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979059 781684 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply fantastic
< 1370979060 40045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's an actual infinite loop
< 1370979068 313559 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assign ion to ionvestigate
< 1370979071 920054 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't imagine it not being an actual infinite loop...
< 1370979095 523496 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw cycle hth
< 1370979103 39174 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, have you seen the monstrosities ion attempts with tables
< 1370979104 456056 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I delegate elliott to ellook at it.
< 1370979114 69886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes I get bloody emails about them thanks to edwardk
< 1370979117 426421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite not really caring about tables at all
< 1370979119 635101 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thedwardk
< 1370979120 943267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the parser expected to be able to read infinitely nested text
< 1370979136 990480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like it to
< 1370979142 365812 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it'd be the super-cute's
< 1370979151 314762 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur a reek
< 1370979157 511335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = poo" :: Mu ()
< 1370979158 446836 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Kind mis-match
< 1370979158 518404 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : The first argument of `Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Truste...
< 1370979162 970283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1370979165 106973 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = poo" :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979168 120044 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = *Exception: Prelude.read: no parse
< 1370979175 124672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = Just (poo" :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979178 353195 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = *Exception: Prelude.read: no parse
< 1370979183 242693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = Just (In Nothing)}" :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979187 911635 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979188 924014 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read ("In {out = " ++ repeat ' ') :: My Maybe
< 1370979190 532862 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's Mu
< 1370979190 932104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1370979192 523983 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: type constructor or class `My'
< 1370979192 595978 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `Mu' (impor...
< 1370979195 501641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> In (Just (In Nothing))
< 1370979196 832415 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read ("In {out = " ++ repeat ' ') :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979198 766712 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = Just (In {out = Nothing})}
< 1370979200 519499 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979201 651781 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t In
< 1370979202 307700 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (Mu f) -> Mu f
< 1370979206 316815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = Just (In Nothing)}" :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979207 491254 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? how
< 1370979210 152708 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979212 845862 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = Just (In Nothing)}" :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979216 576484 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = *Exception: Prelude.read: no parse
< 1370979221 600354 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Mu
< 1370979221 710412 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Mu f = In { out :: f (Mu f) }
< 1370979230 210294 :`0x00!~ping@u.nxsh.org QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
< 1370979237 36451 :`0x00!~ping@u.nxsh.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370979237 307408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = Just (In {out = Nothing})}" :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979240 158503 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = Just (In {out = Nothing})}
< 1370979246 482797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = Just (In {out = " :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979250 229234 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979254 41318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = Just (In {out = " :: Mu Maybe
< 1370979257 33736 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  In {out = *Exception: Prelude.read: no parse
< 1370979260 466093 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how would that ever parse
< 1370979261 497893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wa sqrt 4
< 1370979263 773167 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "sqrt".
< 1370979263 845080 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "4" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1370979263 845338 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :4
< 1370979263 845470 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    adj 1: being one more than three [syn: {four}, {4}, {iv}]
< 1370979263 845581 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: the cardinal number that is the sum of three and one [syn:
< 1370979265 20026 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.
< 1370979265 679604 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :         {four}, {4}, {IV}, {tetrad}, {quatern}, {quaternion},
< 1370979265 939995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: it could partially parse
< 1370979266 755455 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt 4
< 1370979267 785186 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :         {quaternary}, {quaternity}, {quartet}, {quadruplet},
< 1370979268 334647 :`0x00!~ping@u.nxsh.org QUIT :Changing host
< 1370979268 406586 :`0x00!~ping@unaffiliated/0x00/x-2550036 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370979269 788527 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :         {foursome}, {Little Joe}]
< 1370979271 776594 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2.0
< 1370979275 560064 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh  i see
< 1370979282 410388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's too strict
< 1370979286 177759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do wrong :<
< 1370979287 831181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can't do my silly infinitely long read
< 1370979294 735878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it answered
< 1370979296 241532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2.0"
< 1370979318 103676 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370979321 461831 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read $ "[" ++ cycle "1,"
< 1370979322 368909 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.read: no parse
< 1370979329 584257 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt 4
< 1370979330 343796 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2.0
< 1370979334 559407 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1370979339 788654 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1370979358 611822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = sqrt (2 + x) in x
< 1370979362 233069 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979365 334395 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fix
< 1370979382 633364 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "[1,2]"
< 1370979383 543164 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.read: no parse
< 1370979390 943293 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i need to... type it...
< 1370979391 156834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is awesome.
< 1370979397 608009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that defaults to ()
< 1370979404 183234 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this ain't mathematica boy
< 1370979406 537880 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "In {out = \"shake it all about\"}" :: Mu String
< 1370979407 440863 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Kind mis-match
< 1370979407 512680 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : The first argument of `Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Truste...
< 1370979423 791771 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: literaly angry with rage, here
< 1370979447 678359 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ramanujan "not good enough for you"???
< 1370979460 540837 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read $ "[" ++ cycle "1," :: [Int]
< 1370979464 222734 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979466 235936 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad
< 1370979509 278081 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> runIdentity $ read "Identity {runIdentity = ()}"
< 1370979512 403246 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ()
< 1370979513 841180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: btw I bet you could make a really evil type that let you do that sqrt (2 + x) thing
< 1370979517 838090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is 
< 1370979520 946208 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ $//
< 1370979530 34318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use observable sharing to build up an expression graph
< 1370979542 273982 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize x is just two right
< 1370979545 63700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a symbolic representation like the simple-reflect trick for the rest:
< 1370979546 188906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 + x
< 1370979549 997505 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370979552 293896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um.
< 1370979553 72076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1370979553 194022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 + x
< 1370979554 516532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> read "Identity {runIdentity = ()}" :: Identity ()
< 1370979555 210332 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  2 + x
< 1370979557 66691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then solve the whole thing as an equation in the Show instance
< 1370979557 871514 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Identity {runIdentity = ()}
< 1370979564 948608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you could input let x = sqrt (2 + x) in x and get 2.0 out
< 1370979575 306947 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds idiotic, so, let's see it
< 1370979575 417336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I almost want to try.
< 1370979589 28666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even ship off the equations to satisfy to Maxima or whatever
< 1370979596 947648 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1370979613 897627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't understand how tempting this is
< 1370979623 673931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it!!
< 1370979629 397185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then /cs clear users in #haskell
< 1370979653 577629 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370979701 551615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, the reason i thought it wasn't working is because my connection died in such a way that i didn't receive any messages after lambdabot's sourcing Mu
< 1370979702 406028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm literally giggling over having this idea
< 1370979722 558102 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm pretty confused about how that got into the log and your client without me getting 2.0 back? fuck this connection is what i'm saying
< 1370979830 68233 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on, elliott is running lambdabot
< 1370979834 730705 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what this means
< 1370979882 412453 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't :-(
< 1370979885 742752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so speaking of stupid ideas i don't even get how the infinite parse is supposed to work
< 1370979890 968454 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even end with infinite brackets!
< 1370979893 77207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :offensive imo.
< 1370979935 985916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine
< 1370979936 57855 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1370979938 244628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what does it mean
< 1370979950 970115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, are you running lambdabot locally?
< 1370979955 84636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1370979956 653879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you ask
< 1370979961 888675 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, on your computer?
< 1370979965 413992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you ask
< 1370979971 445454 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if you are
< 1370979975 52015 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "In {out = Just (" ++ "Nothing" ++ cycle ")}"
< 1370979975 929887 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "In {out = Just (In {out = Just (In {out = Just (In {out = Just (In {out = ...
< 1370979976 258906 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1370979977 368752 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then lambdabot is in Hexham!
< 1370979980 492930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not
< 1370979988 948931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, you can imagine Mu's parser would be like this: read ("Mu {out = " ++ s ++ "}") = Mu {out = read s}
< 1370979989 52857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Much better.
< 1370980001 148820 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOw imagine lambdabot being in hexham
< 1370980025 630098 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: uh, yes?
< 1370980027 355986 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :}!!!
< 1370980028 578380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1370980039 5477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes but it could "construct the value" and then error out if it doesn't see a }
< 1370980057 496403 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just allow parsing unterminated expressions you could kill people
< 1370980066 29096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is terminated!
< 1370980068 293817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anarchy!!
< 1370980074 481527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like me to add infinite }s to the end
< 1370980078 25960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1370980095 401610 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've already done that!!! ☕)
< 1370980098 590714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let disgusting = "In {out = Just (" ++ disgusting ++ ")}" in read disgusting :: Mu Maybe
< 1370980102 203599 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370980103 997470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see
< 1370980106 26339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking broken
< 1370980113 160871 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrible :(
< 1370980239 248003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reduction (2*x + 0 + 0*y / g z)
< 1370980242 21748 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [2 * x + 0 + 0 * y / g z]
< 1370980245 512006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1370980253 789224 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that supposed to simplify the expression?
< 1370980304 180373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1370980307 466075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reduction (0 + 0 + x)
< 1370980309 952286 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [0 + 0 + x,0 + x]
< 1370980313 197406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows steps
< 1370980316 601346 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh
< 1370980316 856431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's not very good at it
< 1370980317 766259 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite effective
< 1370980319 118023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reduction (x + 0 + 0)
< 1370980322 177661 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [x + 0 + 0]
< 1370980324 287067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1370980324 615949 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had a Tumblr account for a whole year
< 1370980336 243860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: anyway, you've got me thinking now
< 1370980338 379240 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reduction (3 + 4 + x)
< 1370980339 789055 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [3 + 4 + x,7 + x]
< 1370980341 316317 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sorry
< 1370980350 15608 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it folds constants but doesn't eliminate identities
< 1370980350 132657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this thing could turn your expressions into arbitrary trees and then do arbitrary things with them using maxima!
< 1370980353 363328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even do derivatives
< 1370980361 629844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like
< 1370980362 408769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy ones.
< 1370980363 251639 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatic differentiation is pretty baller
< 1370980366 819116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not AD
< 1370980371 693759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's symbolic differentiation
< 1370980372 786407 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woe
< 1370980374 261737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AD is way cooler
< 1370980377 747238 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some Weak Shit son
< 1370980398 929065 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine
< 1370980399 301120 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1370980432 424507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Maxima's ability to solve equations is limited, but progress is being made in this area."
< 1370980436 770842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should shell out to mathematics
< 1370980438 465671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mathematica
< 1370980439 242085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good typo
< 1370980521 740723 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining them citing richardson's theorem and just saying why bother
< 1370980615 601947 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know any good free as in farts CAS type things
< 1370980616 972347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that aren't maxima
< 1370980668 265266 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is octave good?
< 1370980682 347668 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's more numerical than CASy huh
< 1370980683 837039 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur
< 1370980709 446789 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, axiom is suppose dto be good i think?
< 1370980742 956470 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's strongly typed or whatever "good for haskell"
< 1370980873 87111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, axiom
< 1370980876 396826 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read some of its manual
< 1370980889 818506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they started it in like the 70s and it's entirely written with knuth-style literate programming
< 1370980901 840649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like it exists outside of time
< 1370980904 717084 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what are your options here
< 1370980913 639247 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :knuth weirdness or well have you seen maxima's source
< 1370980923 471227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't
< 1370980928 487094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i am speaking positively of axiom here
< 1370980941 855424 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1370980944 201540 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to tell with you
< 1370981281 739564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octave is like the hippie MATLAB.
< 1370981586 392904 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1370981588 130542 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370981757 405260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t sqrt
< 1370981757 966142 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a
< 1370981759 756936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Floating
< 1370981759 874908 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :class  (Fractional a) => Floating a  where
< 1370981759 946807 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    pi                                                      :: a
< 1370981760 19688 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    exp, log, sqrt, sin, cos, tan                           :: a -> a
< 1370981760 19853 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    asin, acos, atan, sinh, cosh, tanh, asinh, acosh, atanh :: a -> a
< 1370981760 19971 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    (**), logBase                                           :: a -> a -> a
< 1370981767 482549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Num
< 1370981767 582715 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :class  (Eq a, Show a) => Num a  where
< 1370981767 654929 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    (+), (-), (*)           :: a -> a -> a
< 1370981767 655106 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    negate, abs, signum     :: a -> a
< 1370981768 49926 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    fromInteger             :: Integer -> a
< 1370981851 485324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Fractional
< 1370981851 708473 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :class  (Num a) => Fractional a  where
< 1370981851 780940 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    (/)             :: a -> a -> a
< 1370981851 781130 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    recip           :: a -> a
< 1370981851 781238 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    fromRational    :: Rational -> a
< 1370982000 825550 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370982017 291502 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Applicative
< 1370982017 564583 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Functor f => Applicative f where
< 1370982017 636118 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    pure  :: a -> f a
< 1370982017 636323 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    (<*>) :: f (a -> b) -> f a -> f b
< 1370982032 596616 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a proper @src?
< 1370982043 384158 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src F.Foldable
< 1370982043 619319 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Are you on drugs?
< 1370982047 845125 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Foldable
< 1370982047 948096 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
< 1370982055 104632 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quality
< 1370982063 694117 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> F.foldMap (:[]) "hello"
< 1370982064 957636 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hello"
< 1370982242 746523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no
< 1370982259 822542 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::_
< 1370982291 420363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enhancements have to wait for me to implement this hack for Bike
< 1370982302 252060 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am ecstatic
< 1370982672 23073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370982885 577027 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370982989 872968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeg er ikke til stede for tiden. vennligst legg igjen beskjed etter pipetonen.
< 1370983415 362257 :redrebelion!~vitaelect@cpe-66-8-204-74.hawaii.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370983462 477566 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1370983627 307208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ribbit
< 1370983715 971872 :redrebelion!~vitaelect@cpe-66-8-204-74.hawaii.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370985147 991204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370985323 515020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://toys.usvsth3m.com/edballs/
< 1370985390 396545 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1370985391 699488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that sound used in some windows 98 game
< 1370985435 620411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i got 0.317
< 1370985438 959531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: itw as one of the startup ones i think
< 1370985447 102981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think so yes
< 1370985751 415076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:44:31:  I don't think anyone wants a deadfish impl. in a proprietary language <-- make it a top secret language and we're talking
< 1370985796 39008 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway my rank was Ed Balls so i think that's a success
< 1370985833 969747 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.422 :(
< 1370985851 596621 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol at that haskell thing btw
< 1370985894 750771 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how
< 1370985902 333614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : U+2F31D  COMBINING BRITISH ACCENT <-- fascinating old chap
< 1370985910 238126 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's a freak man
< 1370985945 689436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎝oerjan
< 1370985961 425840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: type fast
< 1370985963 570377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can omit the caps
< 1370985967 28976 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ my cheat
< 1370985974 490481 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott pro ballsing
< 1370985990 104093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can press and then ^V
< 1370985996 324092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :☝ my cheat
< 1370986002 352005 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.397 now
< 1370986005 142175 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my cheat is
< 1370986007 185829 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got 0.438 ...
< 1370986008 535199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/and/e and/
< 1370986008 969136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's ed balls?
< 1370986012 987111 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit e + d + space all together
< 1370986013 954553 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an MP
< 1370986016 360326 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it works
< 1370986018 145184 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he tweeted "Ed Balls" once
< 1370986027 895289 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then type "balls" really quickly
< 1370986029 25161 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this became a joke in traditional internet fashion
< 1370986045 497089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a very good joke
< 1370986047 737453 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez, that name
< 1370986050 497994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in traditional internet fashion
< 1370986055 416380 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of the founder of Dick's Sporting Goods 
< 1370986057 931558 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dick Stack"
< 1370986062 851407 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evening
< 1370986097 840628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of the person who runs lambdabot
< 1370986108 899614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok no that's mean i'll stop
< 1370986109 709028 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott Dickface
< 1370986111 320429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which haskell thing Bike
< 1370986118 932912 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nodejs thing
< 1370986121 666434 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, he was Minister for Education under Gordon Brown's government and is now I think Shadow Chancellor, a position a lot less awesome or evil than it sounds
< 1370986124 560625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ed Balls isn't just an MP, he's the /SHADOW CHANCELLOR/
< 1370986130 566385 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dang
< 1370986137 908914 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shadow Chancellor sounds like a position in some dark cult XD
< 1370986140 24625 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry for disrespecting the balls, ed balls
< 1370986141 963915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1370986148 126137 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The... the shadow chancellor wishes to speak with you, my liege.
< 1370986151 457277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shadow chancellor isthe opposition party's chancellor right
< 1370986157 794552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much cooler title than the actual position deserves
< 1370986158 380330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1370986165 55534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :his job is to complain about whatever the real chancellor is doing
< 1370986179 197012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chancellor being the person in charge of money
< 1370986206 935547 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of
< 1370986208 740147 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bqhatevwr
< 1370986211 334675 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shadow chancellor" sounds like a position sauron would hold
< 1370986241 555281 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it like, the position he /did/ hold
< 1370986255 375631 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Koen_ a while ago i was wondering where are the glottal stops in the pronunciation of "d'A � Z"
< 1370986263 927886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that saruman guess what books i haven't read
< 1370986273 931897 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :de A à Z
< 1370986287 932897 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say before every syllable nooodl 
< 1370986300 101550 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :de 'A 'à Z
< 1370986330 987174 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess no one would notice if you didn't stop before the first A
< 1370986332 518402 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :'de 'A 'à 'Z
< 1370986341 483702 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'deA 'à 'Z
< 1370986360 960912 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :deäáz
< 1370986370 546310 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deäáz of our lives
< 1370986371 275070 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's a little bit weird
< 1370986390 574746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*deäàz
< 1370986504 600648 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm starting to think you're breton olsner
< 1370986516 219869 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I'm considering calling my OS thingy ꙮS
< 1370986539 807753 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: But then you'll have to add UTF-8 support
< 1370986553 136672 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me the little square I can't read isn't the super-seven-eye symbol
< 1370986553 783997 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I just have to invent an encoding of my own
< 1370986561 702554 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just Unicode support
< 1370986567 104982 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it is
< 1370986591 329910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most rare and exotic glyph variant of Cyrillic letter O
< 1370986602 154918 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the MOST RARE
< 1370986607 532758 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, I don't need to have any kind of support to know the name of your os
< 1370986617 841362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: itym Cyrillic letter О
< 1370986621 285542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1370986642 669976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "kmc encoding": just assume all the squares are eyes, staring
< 1370986652 501151 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I sort of want a citation for that, detailing the rarity and exoticism of cyrillic glyph variants
< 1370986656 822844 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That’s redundant.
< 1370986659 157222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: me too
< 1370986664 189261 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how would you like your Cyrillic O?" "very rare, please"
< 1370986671 858148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could look through all of http://old.stsl.ru/manuscripts/
< 1370986672 206102 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also, that’s what kmc said, isn’t it?
< 1370986672 278458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1370986678 80440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it?
< 1370986682 507298 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose at some point you'd run into the glagolithic transition
< 1370986682 986327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Cyrillic letter O"
< 1370986684 9917 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "Cyrillic letter O"
< 1370986688 320878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Cyrillic letter О"
< 1370986689 481650 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "Cyrillic letter \1054"
< 1370986694 185341 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should call your OS ˿ѿď瑿컿
< 1370986698 284914 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1370986700 517053 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's jus tme
< 1370986709 466369 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry. I failed at copying from kmc’s line and still had your О in the clipboard.
< 1370986718 345766 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the name of the unicode character "Cyrillic letter O" or ""Cyrillic letter О"
< 1370986723 432598 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is seriously going to bother me
< 1370986725 410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former
< 1370986729 414361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode character names are ASCII
< 1370986736 652438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{bootstrapping}
< 1370986740 438950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird
< 1370986747 387646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked the proposal that they should be allowed to use any character that comes before that character
< 1370986748 245019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to think of them as "restricted Unicode".
< 1370986751 404129 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s \rainbow{}?
< 1370986757 339854 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe ၔၕၦၧգལā
< 1370986759 384225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: it's a convention from another channel
< 1370986760 707571 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're kmc
< 1370986770 304739 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc.tex
< 1370986772 52008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there is an irssi plugin that actually produces rainbows
< 1370986776 195038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people got annoyed at them
< 1370986777 68441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That proposal is problematic because it gives a preference to lower codepoints.
< 1370986779 217061 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1370986788 681494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what's that, most of the letters are missing in my fonts :/
< 1370986790 807672 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :13I 4do8n'9t 11kn12ow 13a4bo8ut 9a 11p12lu13gi4n, 8b9ut 11I 12h13av4e 8a 9to11il12et 13a4li8as 9f11or 12i13t
< 1370986799 200705 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should be allowed to use any character that cames after that character.
< 1370986801 561797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :toilet alias
< 1370986805 496358 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Just random shit
< 1370986810 485833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-
< 1370986826 733697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow I herd there's also a bot
< 1370986827 92092 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02I03 04h05e06r07d08 09t02h03e04r05e06'07s08 09a02l03s04o05 06a07 08b09o02t
< 1370986837 770884 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/toilet
< 1370986857 210753 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :toilet is a figlet replacement
< 1370986862 386069 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow boostrapping
< 1370986862 506196 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02b03o04o05s06t07r08a09p02p03i04n05g
< 1370986883 698318 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they should be able to use any character that doesn't produce loops in the dependency graph, the ordering of characters should not be relevant to their description
< 1370986888 62378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rainbow bootstrapping" is a fancy name for rain.
< 1370986915 768965 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :13I 4t8hi9nk 11m12y 13ra4in8bo9w 11lo12ok13s 4be8tt9er 11t12ha13n 4yo8ur9s
< 1370986923 661130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(err, does unicode describe "characters" or some other term?)
< 1370986952 481292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ^rainbow rainbow isn't designed, though, it's just consecutive colors for ease of implementation.
< 1370986967 88469 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: imo allow fixpoints!!!
< 1370986998 479073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Code points are what many of the lists are made of, at least.
< 1370987005 794667 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, that was my original thought actually, anything that brings the unicode standard to a fix point should be ok
< 1370987026 921432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can download the Unicode Character Database so I guess they are 'characters'
< 1370987038 664986 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Character" in Unicode means: "(1) The smallest component of written language that has semantic value; refers to the abstract meaning and/or shape, rather than a specific shape (see also glyph), though in code tables some form of visual representation is essential for the reader’s understanding. (2) Synonym for abstract character. (3) The basic unit of encoding for the Unicode character ...
< 1370987044 671199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... encoding. (4) The English name for the ideographic written elements of Chinese origin. [See ideograph (2).]"
< 1370987057 435810 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh characters have semantics now?
< 1370987063 49848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of those 'characters' are not part of written language though
< 1370987068 258279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The character database is presumably using sense (3).
< 1370987090 470921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nice if unicode (or something like "does the unicode character descriptions reach a fixed point") was undecidable
< 1370987096 974057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they can be assigned semantics... e.g. mathematical bold and italic are different characters because maths papers define them to mean different things, because fuck maths
< 1370987111 910766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference from code point seems to be that all numbers from 0 to 0x10ffff are code points, but not of them are assigned to characters.
< 1370987154 694874 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but in natural language they barely even define phonemics, i mean
< 1370987174 1204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are the values corresponding to UTF-16 surrogate pair code units considered to be code points in Unicode?
< 1370987190 928920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1370987198 396753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Apparently. ("Code Point. (1) Any value in the Unicode codespace; that is, the range of integers from 0 to 10FFFF16. (See definition D10 in Section 3.4, Characters and Encoding.)")
< 1370987215 794708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That 16 is a subscript.)
< 1370987258 257380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also seven fundamental classes of code points -- Graphic, Format, Control, Private-Use, Surrogate, Noncharacter, Reserved.
< 1370987361 764757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x10FFFF16
< 1370987362 982460 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  285212438
< 1370987387 243007 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x1000000000000000000000
< 1370987388 198435 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  19342813113834066795298816
< 1370987408 448935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Map k a -> k -> Bool
< 1370987409 884115 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Map.Lazy member :: Ord k => k -> Map k a -> Bool
< 1370987410 25635 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Map.Strict member :: Ord k => k -> Map k a -> Bool
< 1370987410 97102 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Map.Lazy notMember :: Ord k => k -> Map k a -> Bool
< 1370987428 652719 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's notMember for exactly
< 1370987438 863628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking if a key isn't a member hth
< 1370987462 426039 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha
< 1370987473 968858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can write «x `notMember` y» instead of «not (x `member` y)» and it's a little bit nicer I guess
< 1370987495 493393 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Map kak bool
< 1370987504 564651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or better yet «map (`notMember` y)» vs «map (not . (`member` y))»
< 1370987519 507315 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: always so hthelpful
< 1370987592 528075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (k -> k') -> Map k a -> Map k' a
< 1370987592 782638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Map.Lazy mapKeysMonotonic :: (k1 -> k2) -> Map k1 a -> Map k2 a
< 1370987592 854549 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Map.Strict mapKeysMonotonic :: (k1 -> k2) -> Map k1 a -> Map k2 a
< 1370987592 854711 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Map.Lazy mapKeys :: Ord k2 => (k1 -> k2) -> Map k1 a -> Map k2 a
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< 1370987683 907717 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle olsner
< 1370987684 127098 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found
< 1370987689 474932 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle elliott
< 1370987689 691315 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found
< 1370987691 608921 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :):
< 1370987718 349354 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1370987970 245718 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I'm not a function, hth
< 1370988059 707321 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1370988076 142723 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You should be
< 1370988089 876125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1370988094 858383 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf
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< 1370990237 244671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Reboot again?!
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< 1370990972 720988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: once upon a time i installed a shareware program whose purpose was to reverse strings
< 1370990981 839914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was reasonably popular
< 1370990991 603683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1370990996 432004 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oo
< 1370991010 315407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good old days of rtl text
< 1370991041 840829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The program would reverse text as you copy it into the clipboard or something like that.)
< 1370991072 207615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fahcahs
< 1370991092 864858 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds extremely useful if you copy links
< 1370991109 766799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: more like ףחש
< 1370991125 814622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which shows up correctly for me because my terminal doesn't handle RTL text.)
< 1370991141 496669 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that fchsh or shchf?
< 1370991253 930077 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people of israel have decided: vowels are for fucking wusses
< 1370991302 951442 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :like many non-english languages they have learned to encode information in diacritics
< 1370991311 395821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :vowels are optional
< 1370991324 968582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :שַׁחַף hth
< 1370991391 847577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That  ׁ indicates that the ש is a sh and not a s. hth)
< 1370991402 545452 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder which direction a) that was rendered, b) should've been rendered, or c) should be read
< 1370991430 203481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there supposed to be circles with the vowel signs or is my terminal broken for them
< 1370991430 720210 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sh appaeared at the end of the line, so I'm guessing backwards
< 1370991470 509323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The three letters are:
< 1370991471 434822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(almost certainly broken since the circles make the consonants even harder to see
< 1370991474 263454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ש
< 1370991474 935883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ח
< 1370991475 752299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ף
< 1370991477 235897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1370991484 339093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice capture, oerjan
< 1370991485 288099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should be written from right to left.
< 1370991490 461704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1370991494 95478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap oerjan
< 1370991494 244826 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION orders her trained monkeys to punch oerjan

< 1370991513 573820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got me some hebrew letters!
< 1370991532 275477 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that from right to wrong or from wrong to right?
< 1370991545 846299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :From least to best.
< 1370991559 476475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We're talking about coasts of the US now.)
< 1370991566 426420 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :from worst to most?
< 1370991596 187477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wise man once said the west is the best
< 1370991729 54910 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1370991823 643836 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how wise of him
< 1370991853 2677 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: where is the west and the best? are they in fact the same?
< 1370991853 499099 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i, myself, will bring an end to all. ghosts lurk in the ruins! the structural damage is severe. the tale?
< 1370992177 369948 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370992796 785607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1370992807 49154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370993268 917903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm moving the new laptop to the left end of the table made eating pizza too complicated
< 1370993343 398016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan world problems
< 1370993366 584515 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all have pizza problems, man. we all do
< 1370993515 910344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i use my right hand on the touchpad, i have to eat pizza with the left, but now there was nowhere to put it. (yes, i already have moved the laptop out of the way)
< 1370993712 710620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the reason i moved the laptop to the left is because the cord is shorter than the old one, and plugs in on the left, so it's uncomfortable to have it where the old one was when plugged in.
< 1370993763 937124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also oerjan world problems (including the irony) seems to be me in a nutshell.
< 1370993788 755721 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could easily create something like monad syntax in Rebol... but I think it would be inefficient
< 1370993806 328719 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"monad syntax"?
< 1370993816 638084 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A do notation equivalent
< 1370993835 536615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : rules of programming 1) write in Haskell 2) write beautiful code, without regard to efficiency 3) optomize ONLY as needed
< 1370993838 520283 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1370993859 807930 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The design I'm thinking of would put the do notation processing inside the function passed to bind...
< 1370993866 57424 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each time bind is used
< 1370993951 346530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well don't do that then hth
< 1370994101 419716 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's the easiest thing to di
< 1370994102 153434 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do
< 1370994118 753931 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ("hth "++)
< 1370994119 482394 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1370994121 418718 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not sure how else to do it, without making the syntax more unreboly than it currently is
< 1370994157 239547 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: now i'm reading it as "hadith"
< 1370994157 381559 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unreboly?
< 1370994186 80507 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :runreholy
< 1370994253 113883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "hth "
< 1370994254 68866 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1370994303 80282 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadi to help
< 1370994316 28609 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that hardly seems very functional!
< 1370994341 408408 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> concatMap (const "hth ") [1..]
< 1370994342 199322 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1370994360 369421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but it's very cyclic!
< 1370994379 40699 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..] >>= const "hth "
< 1370994379 843076 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1370994393 147861 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you could stand to learn a thing or two from freefull here.
< 1370994411 313658 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly annoying to specify which locals you want to use at the beginning of the function. I mean, you don't _have_ to, but I gather it's the most convenient thing to do
< 1370994419 476989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even constant memory!
< 1370994428 810857 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> const "hth " <$> [1..]
< 1370994429 942655 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ["hth ","hth ","hth ","hth ","hth ","hth ","hth ","hth ","hth ","hth ","hth...
< 1370994435 975038 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops, that one's wrong
< 1370994451 177150 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> const "hth " <$> [1..] >>= id
< 1370994451 942514 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1370994463 952034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..]>>"hth "
< 1370994464 994003 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1370994475 707405 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Psh, too simple
< 1370994481 419374 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How will anyone know what that code does
< 1370994490 174182 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1..] *> "hth "
< 1370994491 306698 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1370994496 4588 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do it without the explicit space? that is with "hth" instead of "hth "
< 1370994527 159123 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure
< 1370994544 676263 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords $ fix ("hth":)
< 1370994545 623655 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1370994546 896805 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (*>)
< 1370994547 691381 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => f a -> f b -> f b
< 1370994550 48031 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1370994641 797712 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370994705 456767 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: How's that?
< 1370994716 164785 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup it's good
< 1370994801 808970 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix \x -> 2 + sqrt x
< 1370994802 637386 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :1:5: parse error on input `\'
< 1370994810 633304 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x -> 2 + sqrt x)
< 1370994814 250891 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370994821 727979 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just can't win ;_;
< 1370994854 379956 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: try iterate
< 1370994867 879262 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not the same man
< 1370994976 346950 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe you can implement iterate in terms of fix
< 1370995012 632952 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this works I will gibber insanely
< 1370995023 32656 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it doesn't work I will also gibber insanely)
< 1370995043 152677 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺
< 1370995082 984479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're used to it
< 1370995155 686347 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let iterate' f a = fix (\x -> f a : map f x) in iterate' (+3) 0
< 1370995156 475813 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,27,30,33,36,39,42,45,48,51,54,57,60,63,66,69,72,75,78...
< 1370995165 216739 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, not quite the same
< 1370995183 71982 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let iterate' f a = fix (\x -> a : map f x) in iterate' (+3) 0
< 1370995183 824900 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [0,3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,27,30,33,36,39,42,45,48,51,54,57,60,63,66,69,72,75,...
< 1370995185 474782 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There
< 1370995190 113094 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ma: do/next next assigns 'next-assigns
< 1370995199 816891 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not really the most readable code I have ever written
< 1370995324 260079 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x y z -> y : map z x) 1 (\x -> 2 + sqrt x)
< 1370995325 223977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Couldn't match expected type `[a0]'
< 1370995325 335874 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :             with actual type `a0 -> (a...
< 1370995395 139217 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right
< 1370995429 253429 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (\x y z -> y : map z (x y z)) 1 (\x -> 2 + sqrt x)
< 1370995430 65892 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [1.0,3.0,3.732050807568877,3.9318516525781364,3.982889722747621,3.995717846...
< 1370995438 876830 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: How's that?
< 1370995465 785904 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's converging to a different number...
< 1370995472 490180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :constants are changing
< 1370995491 379666 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 2 + sqrt x) 1
< 1370995492 110886 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [1.0,3.0,3.732050807568877,3.9318516525781364,3.982889722747621,3.995717846...
< 1370995496 470499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(four does not equal the square root of six)
< 1370995503 165311 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> do-monad identity-m [a: 5 b: 6] [a + b] 
< 1370995503 237188 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :== 11
< 1370995517 272860 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 2 + sqrt x) 2.44
< 1370995518 265206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [2.44,3.5620499351813306,3.887339379968884,3.9716336830072883,3.99289580334...
< 1370995523 786177 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 2 + sqrt x) 5
< 1370995524 609219 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [5.0,4.23606797749979,4.058171027271492,4.014490264873844,4.0036192914009,4...
< 1370995533 412810 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Why wouldn't it converge to 4?
< 1370995547 950493 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> sqrt (x + 2)) -- maybe i fucked up.
< 1370995548 885972 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   [Double]>
< 1370995556 572609 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, um, why are you asking me?
< 1370995560 21972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> sqrt (x + 2)) 2
< 1370995560 823849 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2.0,2....
< 1370995562 606204 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo, probably
< 1370995566 209920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> sqrt (x + 2)) 5
< 1370995566 719379 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Woops
< 1370995567 590468 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [5.0,2.6457513110645907,2.1554004989942337,2.0384799481462244,2.00959696161...
< 1370995590 131139 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That converges to 2
< 1370995591 843329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, my mistake.
< 1370995606 35127 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like usual *sobs all over Sgeo_*
< 1370995622 992050 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> sqrt 6) 0
< 1370995624 265375 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [0.0,2.449489742783178,2.449489742783178,2.449489742783178,2.44948974278317...
< 1370995627 398843 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go
< 1370995649 203116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1370995657 269701 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P
< 1370995766 578960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see those iBooter spammers have got annoying again...
< 1370995853 702988 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1
< 1370995854 579381 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [1.0,0.0,-Infinity,6.0,5.0,4.8,4.75,4.7368421052631575,4.733333333333333,4....
< 1370995857 341339 :jerkbot1!~jerkbot@pool-71-185-204-145.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370995859 121253 :jerkbot1!~jerkbot@pool-71-185-204-145.phlapa.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1370995863 800110 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what that converges to
< 1370995892 421563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if we dodged a bullet there...
< 1370995904 153138 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1 !! 100
< 1370995905 102964 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4.732050807568878
< 1370995918 760163 :jerkbot1!~jerkbot@pool-71-185-204-145.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370995920 192577 :jerkbot1!~jerkbot@pool-71-185-204-145.phlapa.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1370995925 343924 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
> 1370995925 419043 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1370995925 670367 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1 !! 100)^2
< 1370995926 592285 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  22.392304845413268
< 1370995934 180906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ban it
< 1370995935 748002 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what the significance of that number is
< 1370995936 399663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see what it does
< 1370995937 57834 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370995944 751274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1370995947 481008 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1370995960 116491 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370995966 147231 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :71/15, there we go. i'm good at math
< 1370995971 191157 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-95.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1370995973 636011 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1370995985 623789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1 !! 1000
< 1370995986 434615 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4.732050807568878
< 1370995989 250837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1 !! 10000
< 1370995990 367687 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4.732050807568878
< 1370995992 42957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1 !! 100000
< 1370995993 398904 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4.732050807568878
< 1370995995 127533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1370995999 414501 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some nasty ass fraction
< 1370996009 937163 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> do-monad list-m [a: [1 2 3] b: [4 5 6]] [a + b]
< 1370996010 9224 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :== [5 6 7 6 7 8 7 8 9]
< 1370996011 123056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1 !! 100000 :: CReal
< 1370996012 583418 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: stack overflow
< 1370996014 652685 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, google does give results for the number
< 1370996017 689751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1 !! 10000 :: CReal
< 1370996021 370379 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370996022 902558 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is something
< 1370996023 704978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol.
< 1370996025 725011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> 6 - 6/x) 1 !! 1000 :: CReal
< 1370996029 392867 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1370996033 780688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = 6 - 6/x, x² = 6x - 6, x² - 6x + 6 = 0, bla bla whatever.
< 1370996046 471124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like bike = sucks
< 1370996050 226691 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yeah
< 1370996051 446555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1370996053 710275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :harsh but fair
< 1370996053 956723 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Probably that
< 1370996059 697019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike = the best hth
< 1370996069 759809 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaddya mean "probably"
< 1370996099 396977 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably that's why there are google results for it
< 1370996102 190125 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/8035336
< 1370996108 387360 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not the best Rebol code in existence
< 1370996124 67339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone else started caring about rebol yet
< 1370996132 717401 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think kmc did once maybe
< 1370996153 550152 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad/bind ma :f
< 1370996157 502695 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make that :ma not ma
< 1370996159 494872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what on earth does it need return for
< 1370996258 111477 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because pure is lame
< 1370996259 877818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:48:53:  You should configure a key combination in your Emacs to access it.
< 1370996263 360997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:49:10:  The key combination should be prominently listed on top of the cheat sheet, since you'll be needing it often.
< 1370996266 358340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds logical.
< 1370996273 162187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
> 1370996273 187632 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1370996277 868993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo, op me.
< 1370996282 252164 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pure "logic"
< 1370996283 84876 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Control.Applicative.Applicative f0)
< 1370996283 188812 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1370996292 196395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> pure "logic" :: [[Char]]
< 1370996293 292306 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ["logic"]
< 1370996313 432161 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4 ** 3
< 1370996314 233963 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  64.0
< 1370996326 999825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo, @admin + me
< 1370996356 446710 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\a b c -> ((negate b) + sqrt(b**2 - 4*a*c)) / 2*a) 1 -6 6
< 1370996357 168581 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num
< 1370996357 241107 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :                     (GHC.Integer.Type.Intege...
< 1370996362 735341 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok whatever.
< 1370996366 57528 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how badly the internals of that thing can be messed up
< 1370996425 263074 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t sqrt
< 1370996425 969385 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a
< 1370996443 261432 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: (-6)
< 1370996464 190702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious
< 1370996466 347320 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> -6
< 1370996467 482684 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  -6
< 1370996471 271688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??
< 1370996490 86822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell more like i have no idea what's happeningskell
< 1370996493 78557 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1370996511 846101 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (*) 1 -6 -- is it some parse weirdness
< 1370996512 684544 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0)
< 1370996512 756484 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1370996516 321058 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow awesome
< 1370996520 214110 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (*) 1 (negate 6)
< 1370996520 936963 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  -6
< 1370996532 268076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\a b c -> ((negate b) + sqrt(b**2 - 4*a*c)) / 2*a) 1 (negate 6) 6
< 1370996533 407875 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4.732050807568877
< 1370996534 107351 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (*) 1 (-6)
< 1370996535 111638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  -6
< 1370996538 840697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. i have scienced
< 1370996552 93000 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am now at the level of a seventh grader algebraist
< 1370996717 845417 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Now do differentation or integration
< 1370996729 844189 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i already had to do that today
< 1370996735 612867 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dsin = cos do i win
< 1370996776 443531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: now do DD
< 1370996782 690026 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you have to write it in lisp
< 1370996787 164817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!
< 1370996799 375024 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme is fine too
< 1370996803 11932 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(D-DD)sin = cos + sin bam
< 1370996821 844233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not D ∘ D
< 1370996827 318466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :D(D)
< 1370996833 260217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha you ass
< 1370996845 60222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the type of D
< 1370996849 630041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : does anyone know why these would differ <-- extended defaulting still requires a "standard" class to be involved in the mess. typeable isn't one, but show is.
< 1370996854 763910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't just (R -> R) -> (R -> R)
< 1370996855 697933 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a linear operator.
< 1370996863 54905 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... yeah, that works.
< 1370996864 32312 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Something like Expr a -> Expr a
< 1370996881 66103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that doesn't work because it could be e.g. (C -> C) -> C -> C
< 1370996904 195099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so D : Something a => (a -> a) -> a -> a
< 1370996907 882717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i have a file named crap.sh
< 1370996909 18119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Field a
< 1370996909 950594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is (R -> R) an instance of Something?
< 1370996911 885865 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it good
< 1370996915 406937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a 900 character long qemu-kvm command line
< 1370996923 290387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok are functions from R to R a field
< 1370996949 306476 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, don't think so, square integrable ones are though? Maybe? I'm shit at analysis
< 1370996950 959835 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (R -> R) is a monoid
< 1370996958 723107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> print
< 1370996959 912075 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  <() -> IO ()>
< 1370996964 373123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id
< 1370996965 427501 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0)
< 1370996965 534515 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1370996966 448381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: look i just want the derivative of taking derivatives
< 1370996973 270903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tensors hth
< 1370996974 413974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make this more difficult than it needs to be hth
< 1370996981 398451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t print
< 1370996982 187410 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show a => a -> IO ()
< 1370997004 750815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: () -> IO ()
< 1370997006 265571 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  <() -> IO ()>
< 1370997057 426214 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wikipedia has a whole article on generalizing differentiation, sweet
< 1370997084 136636 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_derivative
< 1370997097 119214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https: plz thx hth
< 1370997110 624709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http's
< 1370997111 782671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_derivative
< 1370997118 944758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivation_(abstract_algebra)
< 1370997122 887238 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know
< 1370997127 468006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why don't you just use https everywhere or w/e
< 1370997139 783015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why doesn't Bike hth
< 1370997145 275248 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you it was a linear map! but nooooo
< 1370997160 631454 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalizations_of_the_derivative and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalizations_of_the_derivative
< 1370997209 241949 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if this is related to fractional calculus.
< 1370997233 820675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey p-adic analysis is a thing
< 1370997251 700507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke: do you relate type-theoretic equality to the paths of homotopy theory, because you're pretty HoTT
< 1370997262 896801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you i'll be here all week
< 1370997268 149958 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus fuck dude
< 1370997293 571192 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with Bike
< 1370997302 355003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with mnoqy
< 1370997305 352234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not with Bike
< 1370997316 359836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: still laughing at my own joke
< 1370997330 29593 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: still laughing in horror at elliott's joke
< 1370997335 75270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist
< 1370997336 810889 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
< 1370997347 37515 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf
< 1370997393 743560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> permutations "mnoqy"
< 1370997394 543987 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ["mnoqy","nmoqy","onmqy","nomqy","omnqy","monqy","qonmy","oqnmy","onqmy","q...
< 1370997398 500932 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> print 3
< 1370997399 347379 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  
< 1370997403 487788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should add all of those to smlist.
< 1370997404 89265 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet that gopher relates type-theoretic equality to the paths of homotopy theory
< 1370997404 196713 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting
< 1370997408 4246 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No longer ugly errors
< 1370997418 302005 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks be to lambdabot's new master, elliott
< 1370997420 340732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :death to cale
< 1370997425 398916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i literally
< 1370997427 678629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking thought
< 1370997429 830895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn
< 1370997463 984699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: laughing at my own joke for the second time
< 1370997471 18306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:03:07:  oerjan: hi
< 1370997471 194723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08:02:  hellørjan
< 1370997472 575115 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: get a life!!!
< 1370997476 117090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVENING
< 1370997488 73605 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get oerjan's life i bet he's not using it!!
< 1370997499 711777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about i get your life (i'm hitting on you again)
< 1370997504 86587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm with Bike 
< 1370997519 930111 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my life mostly involves feeling bad about social programs sorry
< 1370997523 598741 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not very high-life"
< 1370997538 748962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :highlife the CA
< 1370997539 752706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on are we playing hit on the monqy
< 1370997544 321536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my life mostly involves not participating in any social programs, hth
< 1370997545 32497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep seeing that flash ad
< 1370997547 491615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good
< 1370997575 34102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe you should move to los angeles like Fiora
< 1370997582 836198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can feel bad about socal programs
< 1370997597 532339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :social pogroms
< 1370997597 988315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1370997602 268175 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1370997614 687661 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think fiora actually lives in para-LA
< 1370997622 471731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love highlife the CA
< 1370997627 935490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370997629 260371 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :highlife the CA is pretty cool
< 1370997631 9104 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... para-LA?
< 1370997631 152156 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, look at my Rebol code? >.>
< 1370997631 268603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :para-LA?
< 1370997633 212282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1370997634 319445 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :night and day is my favorite though
< 1370997641 318796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like a parala universe
< 1370997643 760514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am starting to think win8 isn't very good at keeping connections open
< 1370997645 530236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: whoa, man
< 1370997654 65226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :high life, los angeles
< 1370997657 247372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You should @admin + me.
< 1370997657 977268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :los angeles is in california (CA)
< 1370997664 108960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :highlife is a CA
< 1370997665 929302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence?
< 1370997670 324706 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a para-LA...
< 1370997670 417200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncidence?
< 1370997683 535195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :para-LA, ortho-LA, meta-LA
< 1370997693 954837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a bot that fixes words like "cooperate" to add diæreses.
< 1370997731 257659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally i will stop pronouncing it as "coin cidence"
< 1370997757 809670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cowincidence hth
< 1370997778 970396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cow incidence in los angeles is unusually high today......
< 1370997783 818963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so
< 1370997790 725976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the cow palace is in SF
< 1370997814 118066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'pata-LA
< 1370997838 92480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is "overr̈eaction" an overr̈eaction
< 1370997864 523170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey do y'all remember the secret cow level
< 1370997886 590542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW a fantasy tower defense card game I made called Mage Tower is coming out on June 28th, if you're into that stuff NERD
< 1370997889 559589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-JohnnySmash
< 1370997892 483148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is JohnnySmash???????
< 1370997905 313644 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1370997915 199261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret identity∶ revealed
< 1370997919 873218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i "the person who calls people nerds"
< 1370997922 3468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that ∶ was disappointing
< 1370997935 513290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes and it's kind of rude
< 1370997946 987388 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerds are kind of rude
< 1370997971 201724 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike you're a nerd :<
< 1370997975 482308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling people names considered harmful
< 1370997979 131785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially yourself
< 1370997999 90792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree w/ Fiora and disagree w/ Bike (general statement)
< 1370997999 199660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: common misconception, ,i'm actually two nerds wearing a trenchcoat (it has like /nine/ pocket protectors)
< 1370998006 123843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: nouns considered harmfulest, and adjectives considered harmfuler
< 1370998013 465464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and verbs considered the least harmful
< 1370998018 961668 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :verbing rocks
< 1370998020 933802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my philosophy on saying things about people
< 1370998029 337528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that enough protectors for two nerds
< 1370998032 230594 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you gotta nerd so hard, shachaf
< 1370998034 514865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are those two very small nerds?
< 1370998048 834531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: no i'm like eleven feet tall total
< 1370998059 171706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out Fiora is actually half of a nerd wearing a quarter of a trenchcoat
< 1370998060 101145 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike is actually a Blame character
< 1370998066 908344 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I-   am not!
< 1370998073 392076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can you prove it!!
< 1370998077 434376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which half
< 1370998081 197306 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well um
< 1370998084 272507 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one I'm not wearing a trenchcoat
< 1370998084 477527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1370998092 159015 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kid want some of this *opens trenchcoat* *dozens of trenchcoats fall to the ground*
< 1370998096 947988 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :case closed
< 1370998112 531476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm actually trenchcoats all the way down
< 1370998124 145474 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix trenchcoat
< 1370998124 844472 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `trenchcoat'
< 1370998132 813114 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ↑
< 1370998136 225585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trench_coats_in_popular_culture
< 1370998163 6575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http pls
< 1370998174 763627 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :82 degrees is a little warm for that kind of clothing, I think
< 1370998181 554282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 82 f in c
< 1370998183 187642 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :27.7777778 degrees Celsius
< 1370998183 303077 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.goodcooking.com/conversions/temp.htm
< 1370998183 374896 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Fahrenheit to Celsius Conversions
< 1370998198 783687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a little hot for just about any kind of clothing
< 1370998207 404572 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, it's only 24 C right now and I'm inside and it's probably 20 here
< 1370998238 148255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx for using ℃
< 1370998244 341974 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: later in the summer it can get up to 36-39C sometimes
< 1370998247 838051 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are days I go to work early
< 1370998250 125709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: :-(
< 1370998250 258895 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and come home late
< 1370998270 876597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in LA area with no air conditioning?? condolences
< 1370998277 830627 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way of course we have AC
< 1370998279 976902 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank goddess
< 1370998283 144675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok
< 1370998290 892621 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I walk to/from work
< 1370998301 997207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can't, like, /totally/ pretend the weather doesn't exist
< 1370998302 471117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lived on the top floor of a dorm with no AC, in a hall known as "Hell" for reasons which should be obvious
< 1370998303 150979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: have you considered that your emplyer is using a weather control machine to make you work long hours
< 1370998309 316751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1370998329 440203 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first year I had to have a window unit, it worked okay though
< 1370998339 929324 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, the first week of school, it reached ~43 C
< 1370998345 524155 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was like unusual even for here
< 1370998351 74888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg
< 1370998354 481973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is absurd
< 1370998357 746186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can humans even survive at those temperatures
< 1370998357 852227 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I remember all the faculty were like "I'm sorry frosh ;_; it is not normally like this"
< 1370998362 792590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm the record high temperature recorded in tel aviv was in may
< 1370998365 611209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure if it ever reached 35 C i would become a liquid
< 1370998368 943686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time we gave all the prefrosh food poisoning!
< 1370998374 49608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at prefrosh weekend
< 1370998381 470238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yield rate was unusually low that year
< 1370998381 688868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never reached 43C the rest of my 4 years there, I think
< 1370998397 435209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was literally just for the first week frosh were there.  it was like, even the weather hates frosh
< 1370998404 832187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Cats actually do turn liquid around that temperature.
< 1370998413 99624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a cat scientist
< 1370998414 410430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have witnessed cats dripping off bookshelves and such.
< 1370998419 626811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: making physics fun
< 1370998422 223724 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://24.media.tumblr.com/af3987d0a104ea6ba65d6c1a04b5919d/tumblr_mgsrybJ49R1r2dft2o1_500.jpg
< 1370998425 800100 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are liquid!
< 1370998453 430067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their melting point is somewhere above room temperature.
< 1370998486 965799 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am seriously bad at heat though, I can't stand anything over um like   26C
< 1370998494 223442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: why are you in los angeles
< 1370998500 21720 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1370998511 374276 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm near the coast!  it's normally really cool here actually
< 1370998521 279336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo bad decision
< 1370998521 351482 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's usually no more than like 20-25C most of the year, even the summer
< 1370998524 853124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe move to san francisco
< 1370998524 925061 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and um
< 1370998529 939913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is kind of where I got a job >_<
< 1370998534 104381 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats don't maintain constant volume...
< 1370998642 106842 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1370998818 771571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo get a job in san francisco
< 1370998831 35034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1370998831 856356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the cool people like kmc are doing it
< 1370998912 371965 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I don't think that's so easy...
< 1370998939 269488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know lots of things
< 1370998942 763346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'hella things' as they say in sf
< 1370998951 867352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, maybe you like your current job! that is fine too
< 1370998974 7531 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have like no web programming skills, I'm terribly anxious at interviews, and I'm not really a great programmer or anything compared to like the silicon valley people
< 1370998980 196825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate all my current jobs. i also love all my current jobs
< 1370998995 891273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, all of my current jobs are the same job, but no two of them are the smae.
< 1370998998 882266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same.
< 1370999000 55222 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think I could keep to a startup schedule 
< 1370999005 717063 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't abuse quantification motherfucker
< 1370999027 968704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, for all of my current jobs, 2 + 2 = 5
< 1370999034 981269 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once i develop my ant army i'll just give you a pension fiora
< 1370999043 811278 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ant army?
< 1370999046 94397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the silicon valley people are not very good programmers
< 1370999049 20552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that elliott has no current jobs
< 1370999055 60825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you shachaf, that was indeed the joke
< 1370999056 921662 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly most of them couldn't write optimized SSE assembly code like woah
< 1370999069 657574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all companies in sf/sv are startups
< 1370999071 320732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, i'm gonna conquer the caucasus.
< 1370999071 429879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say web programming skills are generally a downside to finding a non-awful programming job
< 1370999081 780506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has applied to all the programming jobs i have had (hint: the joke is that this set is also empty)
< 1370999094 876632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they plug together existing open source projects in boring ways to make billion dollar products that have little/no interesting tech
< 1370999096 887540 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a leech elliott a leach!
< 1370999098 100983 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also really bad at dealing with people in-person and I don't really feel like I'd fit in (at least definitely not better than now...)
< 1370999108 78215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes stay away from web startups, but don't feel inferior to them
< 1370999118 689945 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also geez what kind of cool startup wants some person with ancient skills like that :p
< 1370999129 167121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have an awful shitty cult online of making people feel inferior to them
< 1370999130 6925 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ancient
< 1370999132 719618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the worst
< 1370999133 414957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computing world is scary
< 1370999140 899478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes ancient skills like programming for the Intel chip that came out LAST WEEK >_<
< 1370999150 827779 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like four years in intel time
< 1370999181 560431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true that companies with interesting tech are harder to find than web startups
< 1370999188 735051 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody really cares about assembly stuff anymore... like they're all talking about html and css and rails and go and rust and racket and
< 1370999195 86689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can swing a dead cat and find a web startup
< 1370999195 925502 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like a million other things I know nothing about
< 1370999205 496345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: do you not deal with people in person now
< 1370999226 47664 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know one of the few remaining places that has assembly up the wazoo is game development (?) but oh gosh no that industry no no no no no
< 1370999229 407955 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can think of a cool startup. that's kind of weird.
< 1370999233 775926 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's not a web startup)
< 1370999238 829049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't work in game development
< 1370999239 698000 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I kind of avoid it as much as possible
< 1370999248 179528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what is your job anyway
< 1370999251 332113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that one of the secret things
< 1370999259 467122 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :her job is avoiding talking about her job
< 1370999260 415474 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I work at a software company in orange county
< 1370999267 285187 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty well paying, i hear
< 1370999295 34669 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that amazing really I just have nothing to spend the money on
< 1370999298 63745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :low-level assembly optimisation is till really important, it's just not fashionable. but also half the fashionable things are awful anyway, so fashionability doesn't really matter
< 1370999311 906484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and geez I don't only do that.   like I program C too and I struggle horribly at C++
< 1370999313 510231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it's better to have an obscure skill than a common, fashionable one
< 1370999318 899076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I did some SSE optimization at a startup in SV once!
< 1370999325 130797 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool :o
< 1370999328 352370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I didn't even know anything about it before I started.
< 1370999330 84105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless it is really super obscure)
< 1370999334 215566 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most things don't need low-level optimisation
< 1370999337 807955 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that do, get it
< 1370999345 207345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can always rely on FreeFull for the tautologies
< 1370999345 947815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still don't know much about it. But I was reasonably successful in the thing I was doing!)
< 1370999352 386902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, and most programmers can't do low-level optimisation, which means that the ones who can will get paid a lot
< 1370999360 84485 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> True == True
< 1370999360 885335 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  True
< 1370999366 756114 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why fiora has enough money to finance her rap career
< 1370999370 670593 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-
< 1370999386 106158 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... really maybe it's easier if you can like, "market your skills" or something?
< 1370999396 985761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i mean your low-level skills are probably roughly a billion times more employable than my functional programming skills :V
< 1370999402 511664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that supposed to finance itself?
< 1370999404 645829 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like 10 haskell jobs
< 1370999415 752992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like 10.............hundred
< 1370999427 192683 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000 isn't too bad
< 1370999436 236402 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as bike knows from the other day that (combined with well, the vast gap in competence), that kind of thing is the difference between me and someone like 0xabad1dea
< 1370999457 130830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm p. mad at 0xabad1dea
< 1370999477 22200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i came up with that hexadecimal string all on my own and then i looked it up and it was someone's username
< 1370999480 627768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool
< 1370999490 407431 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(context: a week or few ago I finally stumbled upon her page and was like /oh my gosh there is someone else who tries to do the whole "let's combine girliness and total assembly geekery" thing/
< 1370999492 404826 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xfacebeef
< 1370999507 558308 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I quickly discovered "oh my gosh I am so completely, vastly, categorically inferior to this person")
< 1370999512 149249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-
< 1370999521 94636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you say that about everybody
< 1370999529 79334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so imo don't listen to yourself hth
< 1370999530 874005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: fuck impostor syndrome
< 1370999532 257712 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you realized it was actually a page you wrote
< 1370999560 689158 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impostor syndrome ;_;
< 1370999561 56632 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile: saddest personal realisation from the whole prism affair: libertarians have soured me to anti-authoritarianism
< 1370999561 204082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be like "this is you" but i read this article today https://medium.com/tech-talk/bdae04e46ec5
< 1370999567 232295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of hard to not listen to yourself
< 1370999581 174659 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you get used to it though
< 1370999586 409831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :( i may have the same realization just now
< 1370999593 656069 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you get a psychiatrist or whatever (NOT RELEVANT TO FIORA WARNING)
< 1370999619 217387 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah i had that same feeling about libertarians, luckily i'm annoyed at maoists now instead
< 1370999620 499123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is really important to distinguish "against current authorities" from "against the existence of any authorities in any form"
< 1370999625 705444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo listen to Bike instead
< 1370999628 819925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's their damn rhetoric
< 1370999658 639807 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's article seems pretty good
< 1370999674 537857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In my head I held a definition of a good programmer, and I didn’t fit it. My repertoire of keyboard shortcuts was relatively pathetic. I was not a fount of esoteric details of various programming languages." hehhhhh i know that feeling
< 1370999683 706144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of listening to myself i listen to Bike
< 1370999716 771814 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't think that's necessarily the distinction you need to put hating libertarians in a different category
< 1370999720 690590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i can tell you as someone who has interviewed a lot of programmers that if I saw http://fiorasm.tumblr.com/ i would be like "we must talk to this person now"
< 1370999730 250432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, non-ancap anarchists aren't the same thing as libertarians
< 1370999735 727626 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://i.imgur.com/pQ6RWVf.png  this is how I feel after glancing at her chart
< 1370999749 626879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just because you know SSE minutae but because you clearly can think, refine ideas, get them working, and then explain them
< 1370999758 475821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: :/
< 1370999776 974432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I would say that even a tiny overlap between "what you know" and "things that matter" is enough for a fulfilling career
< 1370999778 698656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me
< 1370999786 230383 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other people don't know shit about things that matter
< 1370999790 690572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean obviously, nobody knows more than a tiny fraction of things
< 1370999794 979118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus is the modern world
< 1370999813 337924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan knows everything
< 1370999827 621964 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess, it's more like, "oh yay my wonderful autistic brain has collected a vast quantity of useless information, so it looks like I ~know things~"
< 1370999840 747891 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i have the same feeling and i'm allistic
< 1370999847 129256 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm not smart, i just read a lot"
< 1370999852 159985 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION follows up with Google recruiter

< 1370999856 402446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn impostor syndrome
< 1370999857 451406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm not smart, i just know a ton of useless trivia"
< 1370999865 79358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of the reasons why I hate Hacker News and kin so much
< 1370999869 312423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also with the imposter syndrome there's like
< 1370999871 924900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they argue all the time about who's a Real Programmer
< 1370999879 210080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well do you think i'm smart
< 1370999894 589227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the answer is i'm a real programmer and nobody else is, hope this helps
< 1370999900 557946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm a real person and nobody else is. solipsism life
< 1370999902 64236 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"okay, I accept that I'm good at assembly, I accept that I'm actually really good at this stuff, but I feel like I'm awful at everything outside of a super super narrow sphere, and when I try to venture out of it, I'm not completely incapable, but I feel really crappy"
< 1370999906 614552 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*really crappy at it
< 1370999939 504554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1370999943 867455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning = failing
< 1370999947 959812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeatedly
< 1370999954 401070 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well uh, i guess i'd say there are ways to acknowledge that you're feeling something other than saying "this feeling reflects reality"
< 1370999957 768709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tough
< 1370999961 937167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that article was a bit frustrating because i'm probably more familiar with the slightly different brand of impostor syndrome you get in maths
< 1370999967 183423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a really good article though... thanks
< 1370999971 608984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any sage advice on how to get past the "failing repeatedly" stage of learning
< 1370999989 650707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fortunately failing repeatedly is a p. good way to get past it
< 1370999998 817460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it, though
< 1371000012 233285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: interesting, what's the key difference do you think
< 1371000017 592080 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371000021 125163 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The imposter syndrome thing really does suck.
< 1371000029 23185 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when combined with depression.
< 1371000034 343554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it seems like in computing you're comparing yourself more to this abstract image of The Real Programmer
< 1371000049 852552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc did i ever mention you should read those books by keith johnstone
< 1371000054 193969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so
< 1371000061 346597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Impro_ and also _Impro For Storytellers_
< 1371000065 532987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas with maths you have all these big legendary figures and are constantly comparing yourself to them
< 1371000097 359055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have those in programming too, although the lists of people are often hilariously weird
< 1371000103 832350 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, whenever I venture out of my little bubble, I find myself endlessly asking questions of people trying to figure out a codebase or something
< 1371000108 911429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I feel like I'm contributing nearly nothing at all
< 1371000115 723872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while they go and do their whole thing without constantly asking questions of everyone else
< 1371000116 785594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like on HN i saw Mark Zuckerberg and ESR in the same list as Ken Thompson and Donald Knuth
< 1371000118 366954 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in programming it's probably not as... codified? and mythic
< 1371000119 520414 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they just figure it out
< 1371000121 375285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'heroes'
< 1371000131 331848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: fair
< 1371000136 442668 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: *blink*
< 1371000145 974899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i constantly compare myself to conor mcbride, hth
< 1371000151 708838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maths is probably even worse than programming as far as the "you will do your best work before the age of 30"
< 1371000156 74781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371000156 444128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is scary
< 1371000162 723446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I i constantly compare myself to conor mcbride and find myself inferior
< 1371000166 683467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the comparisons go like this: am I as good as conor mcbride yet -> haha no -> welp
< 1371000170 432972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's because Conor McBride is the best.)
< 1371000177 934933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: please express this as a flowchart
< 1371000184 676206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you could say the comparison is... constant
< 1371000188 28163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it always has the same result, see
< 1371000211 122900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is the joke that "constantly" means "all the time" and also "always has the same result (like a constant function)" and they're the same word
< 1371000217 43808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371000218 287029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that might be the joke but just clarifying
< 1371000218 833329 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I felt saying something stupid would be representative of my gender"  this -feeling- 
< 1371000219 50750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i too have these insecurities
< 1371000248 797466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it's largely about the fact that I can make all these cute little toy demos of whatever, but I'm less sure that I can work productively on something big and important
< 1371000250 477783 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also when playing games: oh gosh you can't be bad at this game fiora or else you're going to uphold stereotypes!!!!! no brain shut up shut up shut up shut up oops I died)
< 1371000292 174081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i'm p. bad at asking questions about things and imo asking questions should be encouraged
< 1371000317 226960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1371000323 103768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371000336 715968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I'm reasonably sure that I know more technical stuff than the average web startup person but I think/worry that the average web startup person is better at Getting Shit Done and, like, shipping working code
< 1371000359 664096 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but like... I only ask them because I literally have no idea what to do next and I'm lost and don't get things
< 1371000367 462089 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the alternative is sitting there doing nothing until my boss asks what I'm doing
< 1371000371 765656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: half of your blog posts involve python so i can assure you you are not as uselessly perfectionist as me
< 1371000377 573372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also because asking questions over skype is easier than in person
< 1371000379 763037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all your blog posts are in @
< 1371000398 17366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i compromise to haskell on a good day
< 1371000398 131793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: That's OK?
< 1371000409 525489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Understanding a big codebase properly always takes time as far as I know.
< 1371000442 883577 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but like      I feel like it never gets any better, and everyone else figures it out
< 1371000471 740994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're wrong hth
< 1371000482 363770 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I guess...
< 1371000490 224387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other half of this syndrome thing is assuming that other people have things figured out.
< 1371000521 279347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you remember being a kid and thinking that adults know what they're doing
< 1371000537 741132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and now i'm old and i know what i'm doing!!!!!!!
< 1371000541 563179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sure
< 1371000631 468897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i link that terrifying ronson article that demonstrates that the cia have no idea what they're doing
< 1371000740 132062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo finding out that particular people who you thought you knew what they were doing have no idea what they're doing is a p. good experience
< 1371000812 503722 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I really shouldn't dump all this here like this anyways
< 1371000835 381153 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like you're swamping anything very worthwhile
< 1371000839 788201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what it's for
< 1371000853 349885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's traditional to get drunk first i think but not obligatory)
< 1371000856 386279 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeah let's get back to talking about brainfuck"
< 1371000863 153793 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371000881 993348 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371000890 557883 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i wanted to say: I probably have a skewed perspective on this since i'm literally mentally unsound and my thinking is quite often demonstratably out of tune with reality
< 1371000892 731493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ said he was making a brainfuck equivalent in @tell
< 1371000893 533097 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's that
< 1371000913 357574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is because you are a bicycle
< 1371000914 842178 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I'm mentally unsound, really
< 1371000924 455947 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't mean that as pertaining to you
< 1371000924 783949 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were not meant to function in human society
< 1371000932 70066 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, >.>
< 1371000939 303603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a high powered mutant of some kind never intended for mass production
< 1371000944 247975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mean    I've never really checked
< 1371000948 661512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fuck you man i'll do whatever i fucking well please *runs you over w/ my tires*
< 1371000951 241628 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I know I'm probably an anxious autistic wreck so
< 1371000951 887157 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically it's equivalent to a subset of BF
< 1371000959 226933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're not, like... a car
< 1371000959 965960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i didn't mean to imply you were insane sorry
< 1371000962 531663 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicycle wheels are not scary
< 1371000963 529069 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :???
< 1371000966 297777 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't at all
< 1371000974 538382 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah it's... not that effective... but bike power
< 1371000976 394857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ok cool
< 1371000980 24441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are fine gosh
< 1371000992 4180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm confused
< 1371001034 955063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan knows everything <-- * swat -----###
< 1371001046 947000 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: stop that
< 1371001059 845521 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371001087 829532 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm not confused
< 1371001116 891760 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1371001380 489738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i mentally unsound y/n
< 1371001386 59207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y
< 1371001398 841390 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Anxious autistic wreck? That's fun times!
< 1371001444 256057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a secret weapon against being unhappy which is that i tend to be optimistic about things all the time
< 1371001465 567420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you noticed that everything is terrible and nothing good is happening though
< 1371001471 371282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to notice that part
< 1371001479 651613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371001492 913359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :from my perspective lots of good things are happening hth
< 1371001499 1613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also lots of terrible things
< 1371001506 9068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oh well
< 1371001514 34852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when everything is terrible i'm still optimistic
< 1371001523 260173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that make me mentally unsound.............
< 1371001552 703616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but in a metastable way
< 1371001591 735471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah
< 1371001599 985521 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371001601 958189 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's metaturing quote isn't in the quotes?
< 1371001606 450600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog metaturing
< 1371001637 627730 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371001647 90987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1371001652 377838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i just imagined the quote
< 1371001653 756696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog meta-turing
< 1371001662 986581 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-07-14.txt:07:43:47:  meta-turing-complete, too!
< 1371001681 634230 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog meta-turing
< 1371001685 988915 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing my mind
< 1371001697 460737 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17625
< 1371001735 889074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not there either...
< 1371001737 455689 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371001753 718223 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i just came up with the pun myself and i was so disgusted with myself i projected its creation onto oerjan
< 1371001755 11354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs meta.*turing
< 1371001756 477668 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found
< 1371001762 397759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs meta.*turing
< 1371001762 894516 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it was actually Metang
< 1371001776 897657 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.11165
< 1371001782 46007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So, how 'bout them Turing machines, eh? Never know when they're gonna stop."
< 1371001804 327333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that from a sitcom about computer scientists
< 1371001811 106837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of
< 1371001843 455334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that it's from my life
< 1371001847 616882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i also had a horrible experience today
< 1371001856 451933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote turing
< 1371001858 31423 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :70)  I can do everything a Turing machine can do, except love \ 201)  ah yes, indeed, alan turing was gay and stupid \ 362)  i never meta turing.  he died before i was born. \ 363)  oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page   thanks   elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJA
< 1371001861 724007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: often you do know
< 1371001886 105841 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was in the pub with a postgrad and someone doing some sort of research work and they both said they loved the big bang theory
< 1371001899 117084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371001905 237386 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get in a bar fight
< 1371001918 558818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that something to do with lawyers
< 1371001919 976104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it got better or something
< 1371001930 403810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think they call it a lawsuit
< 1371001933 302491 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is mayonnaise an instrument?
< 1371001941 163998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371001941 257002 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371001946 368763 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's quoting
< 1371001954 503377 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, my gf loves The Big Bang Theory
< 1371001965 682389 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she the one that did that stupid thing
< 1371001981 955398 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err?
< 1371001989 469377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i can't tell because i think all i know about the women in your life is from anecdotes of them being stupid)
< 1371001992 859056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is _The Big Bang Theory_ as bad as it sounds by reading about it on IRC?
< 1371001995 660223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm the one that did that stupid thing
< 1371001998 722412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's pretty bad
< 1371001998 794426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergo i am sgeo's gf
< 1371001999 438291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, worse
< 1371002003 816676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it was with a space hth
< 1371002011 826119 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what did they add actual characters to it or something
< 1371002025 52356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i watched a fair amount of the show and laughed and then one day I realized I hated myself for it and was wasting my life
< 1371002036 482096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc you should read that book hth
< 1371002046 648678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can read my copy when you come to sf
< 1371002049 945388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :say what you will about Chuck Lorre but he is pretty good at his job
< 1371002053 131104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, have you ever read anything by banks btw
< 1371002053 917882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey shachaf you should read the view from the left hth
< 1371002060 928941 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, so, finding something enjoyable is wasting your life?
< 1371002062 533237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Nope.
< 1371002072 845823 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read some banks you fuck
< 1371002074 62412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: no
< 1371002094 816245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371002094 925127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, yes e.g. if that thing is masturbating or something
< 1371002098 522758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get an email address
< 1371002114 62740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to ask the government or something
< 1371002127 636030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Electronic mail? That sounds dangerous.
< 1371002159 376956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs shachaf.*sounds dangerous
< 1371002174 550617 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3017
< 1371002192 879261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably shouldn't actually make claims about wasting one's life
< 1371002193 633706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently ehird@gmail.com is too short to get
< 1371002193 705719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should quit saying that
< 1371002197 776212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you used to be able to get ones that short
< 1371002205 801944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope.
< 1371002212 126005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me restrict my claim to the idea that there is plenty of pop culture media that doesn't make me hate myself and I should watch that instead
< 1371002213 861797 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried signing up for sgeo@gmail.com, it was too short
< 1371002213 933622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure
< 1371002215 900979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a gmail in 2004
< 1371002219 705371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did I.
< 1371002220 587862 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it was allowed then
< 1371002222 137572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1371002223 96656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was 6 characters.
< 1371002225 685690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one did you try to get
< 1371002227 540640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it shachaf@
< 1371002227 652586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "shachaf"
< 1371002230 274730 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  7
< 1371002237 842176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember people were complaining.
< 1371002239 905312 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeoster@gmail.com worked fine
< 1371002253 218840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i own elliott.hird@gmail.com from roughly five billion years ago
< 1371002256 233916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could repurpose that
< 1371002258 783630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's kind of long and ugh
< 1371002268 700773 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you signing up for EVE Online
< 1371002274 643186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say yes
< 1371002282 2571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about penguin.of.the.gods
< 1371002285 285196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. short
< 1371002312 283263 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does elliott need a serious email address or something
< 1371002319 911333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gmail is different. Here's what you need to know.
< 1371002323 408959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :5/8/04
< 1371002334 628512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that date is in americanese btw)
< 1371002352 846197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how about phantomhoover@gmail.com
< 1371002355 451345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :serious enough??
< 1371002357 2825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember how it was announced on mar 31
< 1371002365 41664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no one believed that you would actually get 1gb
< 1371002394 148443 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that was awesome
< 1371002410 24543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys i was 8 when gmail launched
< 1371002410 281129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi
< 1371002420 395833 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apparently "is mayonnaise an instrument" comes from Spongebob
< 1371002421 994500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well you learned haskell when you like negative three
< 1371002428 568668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 actually
< 1371002431 541302 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just taking it off the tags of a reddit blogpost
< 1371002440 757036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott and I joined #haskell within a week of each other.
< 1371002477 253474 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what a week it was
< 1371002550 419863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how about: elliott.t.hird
< 1371002561 201981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott the third
< 1371002562 983725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott.third
< 1371002565 417933 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your middle name "t"
< 1371002569 73601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have a middle name
< 1371002572 245119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott.t.third
< 1371002580 696628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey are google apps things still awful
< 1371002582 886492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :outdo elliottt at his own game
< 1371002583 974166 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OVERRULED
< 1371002586 463839 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you not have a middle name
< 1371002587 131673 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like do they still get old versions of everything
< 1371002598 694798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a middle name!
< 1371002604 908510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Middle names are the devil.
< 1371002606 155216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is there any email service that doesn't give my emails to the NSA
< 1371002609 142073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're from foreignland!
< 1371002609 804411 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you're likwe welsh shachaf
< 1371002614 654236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do i have to run qmail if i want e.g. basic privacy
< 1371002615 885656 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't count
< 1371002633 548556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you don't get basic privacy sorry
< 1371002656 231612 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's advanced privacy or no privacy
< 1371002670 900614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how about sargetron@gmail.com
< 1371002678 342721 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's qmail do to be secure
< 1371002686 846358 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not like the NSA's even trying to read content
< 1371002692 821928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's taken.
< 1371002708 318460 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man wikipedia has Qmail#Controversy
< 1371002710 972768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pumped for this.
< 1371002723 885520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's djb
< 1371002736 90499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just picked qmail out of a hat btw
< 1371002743 343019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twist: the hat only had qmail in it
< 1371002753 472304 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean i don't know what djb's doing
< 1371002760 423419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is where did you pull the hat out of......
< 1371002770 504671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he's... existing
< 1371002798 524117 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol someone's ddosing github apparently
< 1371002823 330670 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://status.github.com/
< 1371002831 191548 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why
< 1371002856 47886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell knows
< 1371002858 222155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To Be A Douche
< 1371002936 982688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg stat us dot github dot com
< 1371002943 312381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not even a file
< 1371002946 561026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i stat you
< 1371002957 187663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :httpsfs hth
< 1371003032 328320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I think there's a lot more to enjoying comedy than just whether you are laughing in the moment
< 1371003039 530835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==kmc
< 1371003055 254903 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, hmm.. such as?
< 1371003072 418790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like saying that food is enjoyable if it makes you not hungry anymore
< 1371003093 659538 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of the most depressing thing i've heard in the last week
< 1371003098 417712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughter is a basic automatic response and that's why the cheap tricks of the mainstream sitcom are so effective
< 1371003104 571562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people tend to "enjoy" bad comedy as long as they're laughing, though. Much more than bad instances of other, uh, genres.
< 1371003105 393521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: way to sell your next statement
< 1371003113 505933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most comedy is bad.
< 1371003120 895049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: whether it's clever, whether it makes me think, whether I think about it later and quote it to friends and such
< 1371003121 328207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't really need to actually say the thing
< 1371003123 602311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Also you should read what _Impro_ says about comedy!
< 1371003150 301743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also about teaching, and status/interaction, and creativity/spontaneity, and storytelling, and other things.
< 1371003167 773208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371003236 734553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mean to imply that 'good' comedy must be complicated and highbrow
< 1371003254 461825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that laughter isn't necessary -- just that it's not sufficient
< 1371003292 203077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latest season of Community had a lot of attempts at fancy cleverness that just... weren't funny
< 1371003294 768322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure.
< 1371003312 148631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now they are bringing back the original creater / showrunner, who they fired after season 3
< 1371003328 822792 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg they are?
< 1371003330 64873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is roughly unprecedented in the history of television
< 1371003340 219379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :best news ever
< 1371003341 673192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/arts/television/dan-harmon-will-return-to-nbcs-community.html?_r=0
< 1371003360 950505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc why do i still look at news.ycombinator.com
< 1371003370 870601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't hth
< 1371003374 48232 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b/c you are mentally unsound
< 1371003390 23749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good points, both of you
< 1371003392 599400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we will see whether the 4th season drop in quality was really caused by his departure
< 1371003399 985408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good thing to look at
< 1371003406 568171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I think people wouldn't have been nearly as harsh if they hadn't known about that
< 1371003409 623326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: twitter
< 1371003428 890277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.
< 1371003445 31761 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371003448 881274 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371003453 203775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:11:12  it's like saying that food is enjoyable if it makes you not hungry anymore
< 1371003462 747683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i hope you realise how totally ineffective this argument is to sgeo...
< 1371003465 387748 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371003467 194511 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuc k
< 1371003468 364328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's analogy is suspect
< 1371003474 497573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were definitely huge differences in quality in the first 3 seasons as well
< 1371003474 633965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-154.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1371003477 134519 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1371003477 464824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heh
< 1371003488 35099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's more like saying that food is enjoyable if it's incredibly sweet or something.
< 1371003497 287924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not really any good an analogy.
< 1371003508 150382 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random thought: i'd like the average math paper a lot more if whenever they constructed some definition they'd include a relatively simple thing or two that isn't in the definition
< 1371003512 136928 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there i said a thing.
< 1371003529 39146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean an example of what doesn't satisfy the axioms?
< 1371003531 517897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :recently i saw a link to https://lobste.rs, i don't know if it is better or worse than HN/proggit
< 1371003538 774968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: omg me too
< 1371003543 759999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe https://lobste.rs/s/bkeYe9/about_lobsters is a more useful link
< 1371003546 114948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: we'r cool
< 1371003556 242776 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah. in this case i'm wondering if lambert fits as an elementary function or not.
< 1371003563 177490 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm just: bad at math
< 1371003571 283060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: aren't we all :'(
< 1371003579 327323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least i am
< 1371003582 928457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i?
< 1371003592 327803 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean i have the definition "I should be able to derive it right"
< 1371003593 641678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know
< 1371003640 346131 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proving a function to be non-elementary sounds... hard
< 1371003641 964894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: interesting
< 1371003646 620434 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there's that too
< 1371003659 340970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it does nothing to combat the fundamental issue of it will be shitty in a few years
< 1371003669 86093 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess proving something doesn't fit a definition is probably harder than proving it does
< 1371003674 297035 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's no obvious anti-definition anyway
< 1371003674 783863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed that they don't say anything about how they will prevent pervasive sexism and other HN social problems
< 1371003680 775784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :technical solutions yaaaaay
< 1371003688 198683 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let alone making up your own not-defined-thingie
< 1371003688 471098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably they don't care
< 1371003703 298811 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Lambert W relation cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions. " well, ok, wikipedia to the rescue i guess.
< 1371003728 311787 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could well be that there's just no illuminating proof of that though
< 1371003735 269674 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how you have to express the derivatives and antiderivatives of this thing in terms of itself though
< 1371003753 236507 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well it's also sort of the point of the paper i'm reading (showing erf isn't elementary) sooooo maybe i should just keep reading.
< 1371003761 521576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elementary functions" is kind of arbitrary. :-(
< 1371003777 963861 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the paper has its own rigid definition of course.
< 1371003822 293994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo start kmc news
< 1371003826 801539 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the front page of that site looks... almost exactly the same as HN's o_O
< 1371003828 746044 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the same stories
< 1371003829 583884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: where you email me a bunch of links every week
< 1371003835 477142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe other people too
< 1371003849 851842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's called https://twitter.com/miuaf hth
< 1371003870 944263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lobste.rs/t/haskell clearly terrible
< 1371003886 265737 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever and informative
< 1371003901 517658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's on hn these days anyway (thanks fiora for letting me check this thing instead of hn to learn this)
< 1371003911 27262 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allism.
< 1371003912 761055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit
< 1371003925 990290 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allistic feces.
< 1371003927 698455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 Agile Node.js Startup Tricks That Prove Men Are Superior
< 1371003928 43470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what are you checking/learning
< 1371003933 210692 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lobsters
< 1371003936 682883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think right now it's like 90% discussions about PRISM?
< 1371003939 611147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 5 Mains That Aren't Usually Functions
< 1371003943 233563 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 10% about apple or something
< 1371003947 93078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. mains power
< 1371003952 973350 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. US state Maine
< 1371003957 6312 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did apple do something
< 1371003961 631261 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WWDC, I think?
< 1371003961 754215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :released some products
< 1371003964 386497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone helps me think of 3 more
< 1371003965 413734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally it's the CNN front page story
< 1371003971 544957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haskell main!!!!!!!!
< 1371003973 487726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they gave up on cats
< 1371003978 627100 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!
< 1371003978 699098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok that can be number 5
< 1371003983 685960 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or like
< 1371003985 986736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 3 and 4
< 1371003992 671854 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever I see WWDC, I think "what would jesus do" but like with the different last two words
< 1371003993 475467 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Manes
< 1371003996 811819 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of lions and stuff
< 1371003997 840689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too Fiora
< 1371003999 509095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yes me too
< 1371004003 946421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would jobs do
< 1371004009 148243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok great
< 1371004010 500101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. mains power
< 1371004011 241019 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows the new iPhone Pi is the most important thing since the cure for cancer.
< 1371004013 939666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. US state Maine
< 1371004016 209981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. manes
< 1371004017 539199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4. ???
< 1371004020 746805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :5. haskell main
< 1371004025 679481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just need one more and we can post it to cracked
< 1371004029 336767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Would Do Cook
< 1371004031 742941 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mein Gott
< 1371004037 404089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1371004045 111679 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371004046 242082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayans
< 1371004055 37547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good too
< 1371004056 126967 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ph's is better and even worse a mispronounciantion
< 1371004061 305268 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow awesome spelling
< 1371004087 624723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about power mains
< 1371004093 209162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:26:50  1. mains power
< 1371004096 541777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371004103 677964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mozilla, Reddit, 4Chan join coalition of 86 groups asking Congress to end NSA surveillance"
< 1371004108 12319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if 4chan asked for it...
< 1371004109 138765 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371004113 987107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371004117 423660 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes back to playing more class of heroes 

< 1371004118 709505 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371004127 173436 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Class of what
< 1371004133 68083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :set of heroes
< 1371004138 947365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :proper class of heroes
< 1371004142 244009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :set of all heroes that do not contain themselves
< 1371004143 996835 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Her
< 1371004148 221592 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category of small heroes.
< 1371004149 67949 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuusha no kurasu
< 1371004149 439441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Her?"
< 1371004158 285523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[
< 1371004159 668864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes me pleased to use Firefox over Chrome.
< 1371004159 779255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google = makes money from data collection and supports PRISM.
< 1371004159 851728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozilla = open source foundation supporting Congress ending PRISM.
< 1371004159 851893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should all support companies and products which are against PRISM.
< 1371004162 367897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]
< 1371004167 943288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha welp
< 1371004170 598990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i reading the comments on this article
< 1371004178 94384 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the category of Heroes
< 1371004178 553905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if they know where mozilla's money comes from
< 1371004185 381146 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Because you are self-injurious.
< 1371004188 127705 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably gnomes
< 1371004192 559185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still better but....
< 1371004210 667368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's open source they don't need money
< 1371004227 596282 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, have a regex: /e([ck]+s*[sc]|[ck]*xs*c?)ers*[sc]i[sz]+e/
< 1371004229 14131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :profit-free organization
< 1371004230 432011 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :their only source of outcome is paying kmc to hack on rust
< 1371004234 775422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there a good email client
< 1371004241 232638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no hth
< 1371004243 902930 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many words satisfying that regex have ever been used in an honest attempt to spell the word "exercise".
< 1371004247 818280 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Mail.app hth
< 1371004280 298662 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: there's infinite possible strings and people have only used a finite set of them, so obviously it's neglible.
< 1371004299 363901 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the answer is "finitely many".
< 1371004334 428348 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: My experience suggests there is exactly one.
< 1371004340 571541 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is named netcat.
< 1371004353 24521 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELO
< 1371004355 498109 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-207-25.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371004382 442786 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371004408 500461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not sound good
< 1371004429 534825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELO THIS IS DOG
< 1371004430 928862 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's just a PSP dungeon crawler game thing <.<
< 1371004448 457502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSP: a kind of drugz??
< 1371004467 246303 :Bike__!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371004476 97902 :Bike__!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :radio one anti nazi mix
< 1371004481 33718 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-57-23.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1371004483 483512 :Bike__!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1371004508 788391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371004518 482224 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mars needs women
< 1371004546 284137 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :250 EHLO DOG THIS IS SMTP
< 1371004551 147505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an electronic device ._.
< 1371004627 406343 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-207-25.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1371004762 149290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1371004762 298113 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371004770 313957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: main street hth
< 1371004777 119091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371004781 489073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good one
< 1371004785 536573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good as mayans
< 1371004789 360698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: your connection...
< 1371004798 665958 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371004944 186015 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the term "controlled flight into terrain".
< 1371004976 228097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371004984 828954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bad times
< 1371004993 809833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mayonnaise hth
< 1371004998 494798 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean what it sounds like
< 1371005011 920364 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A rather low-key term for a rather undesirable event.
< 1371005030 288870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Main unter Frankfurt
< 1371005062 787196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Controlled flight into terrain (CFIT) describes an accident in which an airworthy aircraft, under pilot control, is unintentionally flown into the ground, a mountain, water, or an obstacle.
< 1371005069 623218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking it might be only for intentional cases
< 1371005099 818673 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to this paper, h such that h(z)⁵cos(log(z)) + h(z)³tan(exp(z) + sin⁻¹(z)) + 7 = 0 is an elementary function in some domains. That's pretty cool.
< 1371005215 713016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :6. domain
< 1371005231 205998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn, you're right.
< 1371005246 523002 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ↑!!
< 1371005254 892037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mundane domain
< 1371005269 829669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :7. maintainer
< 1371005278 233974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :8. mainframe
< 1371005291 120022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :9. remain
< 1371005309 561626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :10. mainstream
< 1371005311 88319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thx grep"
< 1371005334 850472 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what does "in some domains" mean here?
< 1371005412 82699 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, just local soltions to that
< 1371005454 109918 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_logic help
< 1371005714 722115 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an interesting word: "castrophony"
< 1371005750 315176 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it's a blend of "catastrophe" and "cacophony".
< 1371006277 956793 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should ask zzo about linear logic.
< 1371006351 157062 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo: hey, would you mind helping me with linear logic once you get back? It seems like there ought to be some good metaphor for it.
< 1371006376 58432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You know the thing where you apt-get install a program and then it gets marked as automatically installed without asking and you get annoyed?
< 1371006467 724778 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, Freefall
< 1371006559 254365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't
< 1371006734 809488 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371006855 830364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371007087 314292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371007091 18183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting annoying :(
< 1371007109 102201 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Huh. Never happened to me.
< 1371007302 370763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am wondering if this is the same kind of disconnection which i used to have on my old laptop, months back (but haven't had in a while) or if this is something win8 is causing...
< 1371007341 765087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i note is that irssi is _not_ kept alive on the other side this time. oh well.
< 1371007408 315860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other news, does anyone know if there is any way in IE 10 to add minor search alternatives like esolang or wiktionary, or if you really only can add things that are in microsoft's gallery
< 1371007466 927454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall IE 8 _tried_ to send you to the gallery but had a way to get to the suggestions on the current website.  now i don't see that anywhere.
< 1371007514 496636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when i misspeak like that sometimes i feel like a complete idiot and how could i possibly have said that thing and then i apologize a lot and so on to make sure everyone knows i'm fully aware how wrong i was
< 1371007527 394577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION managed to add wikipedia but had to change gallery to avoid getting just the norwegian one

< 1371007528 749152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if you're doing that but from the outside it probably seems much more minor than from the inside
< 1371007532 643614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not. i don't really know
< 1371007562 279637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371007564 367698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all right though
< 1371007638 239009 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey this "source code" film is actually really good
< 1371007640 585616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things people do (but i don't so much?): attack the thing they just said, repeatedly mention how idiotic it would be to think it
< 1371007668 660611 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then people in the audience get upset because they were thinking it
< 1371007749 39999 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :source code was pretty cool
< 1371008161 479122 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw i suggest switching from win8 hth
< 1371008180 624237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what kmc is apologising for, help
< 1371008184 642269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even see an apology
< 1371008215 356903 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :win8 makes no sense to me
< 1371008348 634644 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371008398 307342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf does this thing where he talks in one channel about happenings in another channel without giving any context
< 1371008401 369535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371008465 910375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this ##crypto again
< 1371008642 284057 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371008749 974196 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1371008814 285933 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not me
< 1371008860 853684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I ask irssi who has the most channels in common with me?
< 1371008916 367931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most I can find is 10.
< 1371008929 112528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i see what channels someone is in?
< 1371008956 829009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: let me introduce you to whois hth
< 1371008963 111790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois will tell you only the channels they have in common with you (unless they disable that, like ski)
< 1371008982 379886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But irssi keeps track of who's in what channel.
< 1371008990 819227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: you should make agda's universe polymorphism not awful, thanks
< 1371009011 287694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about existence polymorphism
< 1371009018 597824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would that be existence monomorphism
< 1371009138 812593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ski is in a lot of "p. cool" channels
< 1371009246 947685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i whois'd you, did you see
< 1371009297 475152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no. im blind
< 1371009384 939163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (were you joking or)
< 1371009436 152207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know
< 1371009441 905511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you see when someone whois's you
< 1371009451 653899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is trying to confuse me with bogus CTCPs
< 1371009457 954055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see through his knavish tricks
< 1371009466 892040 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois asks the server a question. ctcp is a message to the person
< 1371009471 984763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can't
< 1371009476 360626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois nsa
< 1371009477 595510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTH
< 1371009522 522002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such agency
< 1371009526 29075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc isn't even responding to my ctcps
< 1371009529 48566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of rude
< 1371009574 256823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NOTICE #esoteric :hi i am a bot
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< 1371009599 995641 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was in response to me CTCPing shachaf for a second
< 1371009730 626695 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NOTICE #esoteric :If there was a notice of some sort, I should have noticed
< 1371009854 88122 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hth
< 1371009889 688167 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: what did you do
< 1371009896 311795 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing, hth
< 1371009916 53249 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: i think you will find it's still awful. tdh
< 1371009927 5685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(turducken hell)
< 1371009927 227891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdn'th
< 1371009937 374684 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how would you improve it?
< 1371009945 191199 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371009969 87187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: well when i use coq i don't think about universes at all and then i complete a definition and it gives me a universe consistency error and i have to start over
< 1371009979 700308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: and i consider this preferable to having to think about universes every five seconds but not having problems in the end
< 1371010804 936544 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a fan of magic, but I also hate that it pollutes my type sigs
< 1371010852 52135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371010884 997458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least Coq's magic is just fairly simple constraint solving
< 1371010985 79921 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora, kmc: http://t.co/M0ClqSucMU this is kinda neat
< 1371011039 288547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: subscribe me to the fiora-kmc list please (i like regehr.org too) (why did you use a url shortener)
< 1371011081 710659 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i got it off twitter, i've never even heard of regehr and know shit-all about type-punning or programming
< 1371011161 54771 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(elliott: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/959 this is kinda neat hth)
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< 1371011518 972737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand the type pun rules re: unions
< 1371011543 680955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought unions were the designated ok way to view the same bytes with different types
< 1371011609 277888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia thinks so
< 1371011620 174990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an expert source
< 1371011627 135101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a language whose spec is explicitly what's on wikipedia
< 1371011844 870758 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mostly thought it was interesting that it knew memcpy that well, i guess.
< 1371011881 750567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend had another point re: impostor syndrome, which is that there's a game equilibrium aspect
< 1371011896 968184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if everyone around you is saying how bad and dumb they are, you have to say it too or else you seem arrogant (to yourself and others)
< 1371011916 220209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1371011962 385410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at caltech there were a lot of conversations where everyone was kind of bragging about how dumb they are and how they were failing all their classes
< 1371011973 982522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly i've heard this doesn't happen at MIT
< 1371012123 907784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would handily explain why grad students are mostly fucking wrecks
< 1371012171 111643 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just down to the wreckophilia Bike
< 1371012197 243493 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it took me like four whole seconds to understand wtf you just said.
< 1371012387 970279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is commom
< 1371012394 156037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :common
< 1371012712 895036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how many words rhyme with bike
< 1371012737 57384 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Six
< 1371012752 256132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :list them
< 1371012794 198161 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trike, bike, [ethnic slur], psych, Mike, like
< 1371012867 974900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed at least one, sorry
< 1371012882 912965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the slur, hth.
< 1371012895 136452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371012898 115995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a different slur!
< 1371013047 428923 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ther'es only one slur
< 1371013058 920237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep
< 1371013641 888284 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1371016492 118506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371016503 213740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 893
< 1371016504 900028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 893: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly
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< 1371018029 840758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a list of which foolists are what
< 1371018051 645116 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`listlist
< 1371018053 234819 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: listlist: not found
< 1371018114 549024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*list*
< 1371018116 446443 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/emptylist \ bin/instalist \ bin/list \ bin/listen \ bin/makelist \ bin/mlist \ bin/olist \ bin/pbflist \ bin/pbflistdeluxe \ bin/slist \ bin/smlist \ bin/testlist
< 1371018169 363687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :emptylist is empty. list is a list people of who've run list. makelist presumably makes a list. olist is Order of the Stick. pbflist is Perry Bible Fellowship. pbflistdeluxe is also perrybiblefellowship, but much better. slist is MS Pain Adventures. smlist is Super Mega Comics.
< 1371018229 14266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :run cat bin/emptylist
< 1371018234 942770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/emptylist
< 1371018236 622276 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0"): "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1371018240 609021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 bin/olist
< 1371018241 832614 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1371018275 528660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i  's/:/${@:+ }$@:/' bin/emptylist
< 1371018279 272245 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371018280 148271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emptylist
< 1371018281 678861 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :emptylist:
< 1371018282 633192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emptylist hi
< 1371018284 308436 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :emptylist hi:
< 1371018397 47551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there should be a c.b.miuaf update list.
< 1371018407 653604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last update was in Dec, though...
< 1371018431 927516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371018434 955070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make some more things
< 1371018617 685761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is moving to ca
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< 1371020742 2467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so
< 1371020955 882603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well arkeet just did
< 1371023435 50494 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371023760 774724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what would it take to get a unicode codepoint named after me
< 1371023813 282973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good life goal
< 1371023855 203188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to figure out what counts
< 1371023871 979606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it has to be named after me, not just coïncide with my name
< 1371023888 386088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it count if it's named after something which is named after someone
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< 1371024941 355014 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: gotta go
< 1371025332 502328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate it when i'm worrying about something and then I forget what specifically and it just leaves this diffuse feeling of worry that I can't even pretend to attack rationally
< 1371025814 766107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this happen to anyone else
< 1371025837 126870 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once got a feeling that I ought to be depressed
< 1371025846 25331 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then felt guilty for being happy
< 1371025871 816985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks
< 1371025936 236833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the life of a button
< 1371026831 566078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buh
< 1371028257 638904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo blah blah blah blah | zalgo
< 1371028260 777245 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bͩ͠l̖͒a̷̛h̳͞ ͫ͘b̤͟l̶̷å̛h̉͝ ̦ͪb͔ͪl̨ͭa͇̝h̶͖ ͗͟b͔̕ḷ̕a͕͝h͙͘
< 1371028264 850566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo blah blah blah blah | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo
< 1371028269 492568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :b̛̟̭̺̺͍̖͕ͯ̑͗̽̄ͩ͆͠l็̸̨̙̮̜̲̗̍͐̉̀͢͟ͅͅa̫̞̣̯̰̯̍̒̈ͯͫͤ̓̅̐͠h̟͇̰̣͒̉ͣ͗́̿ͣͫ͊ͥ̇̕ ̨̛̫̦̜̼͔̞̰̐̌͂ͫ͜͝͞b͉̪̻̫̤͕̒̃͆҉̤̬͓̘ͭ̕l̞̥̦͖̞̳̊̏ͯ͛̉̍̒͘͜͝a̵͎̱̜̭̩̤͙̿ͮ͒̍͊̐̉҉h̸̟͍͈̞͓͇̙̥̏́͒͟҉̖͝ ̴̩̹̙̙͖̺ͫ́͐́̎̂́͊̕bͣ̀̆̎͝ͅ҉͔̠
< 1371028271 762294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux++
< 1371028351 579229 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list | zalgo
< 1371028354 237569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Sgeo SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb
< 1371028360 85203 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run list | zalgo
< 1371028362 487511 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ȁ͍i̶͙s̟͚5̷̀2̭̱3̴̗ ̒̎a͖̚t̪ͩr͎̅i̙̚q̵̗ ͩͩB̰̑i̘̭k͌͂e̤̓ ͪ͜b̨͌o͕̦i̮̹l͎̔y͕ͬ ̺̃c͙̊u͎̍t́͏ṫ̼l̳̭é͙f̱̽ȋͯs̳͛h̄̈ ̜̋eͪ͘l͙̀l̯̂ï̍ŏ͌t̢̠t̨̬ ̥ͫfͦ͡g̭͇r̩̍ẹͬp̤̈ ̱ͨḞ̮ị̢o̧̓r̤̅a̪͙ ̉͠f̰̒u͍ͪn̂͋g͋̒o͏̜t̫͕ ̑͜Hͪ͘a̾͢c̝͌ḵ̅E̛͕gͪ̈́o͔͍ ̐̎
< 1371028371 514814 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect I should have done that in /msg
< 1371028414 194881 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :list?
< 1371028418 133440 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, list
< 1371028419 390716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote retrospect
< 1371028419 499136 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :monochrom says: in retrospect, it seems lisp designers were more interested in list processing than functional programming
< 1371028731 206965 :`0x00!~ping@unaffiliated/0x00/x-2550036 PART :#esoteric
< 1371028882 759701 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what's the convention for +1'ing something on libraries@
< 1371028996 646088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you reply with the message "+1" or something weird like that.
< 1371028998 327491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1371029017 87994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? atriq
< 1371029019 417838 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq or two
< 1371029061 389040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone figured out a good solution to the problem that monad transformers are trying to solve, that would be the best thing
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< 1371034681 644725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: did you learn lens yet
< 1371035019 794122 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist
< 1371035021 656691 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly
< 1371035040 123037 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#893
< 1371035047 125723 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf already `olist'd #893
< 1371035095 188062 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorta?
< 1371035106 897121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do you understand profunctor lenslikes
< 1371035122 958106 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im too tired to understand anything but probably?
< 1371035124 736309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the laws for them :'( do you know
< 1371035135 344670 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know their laws at least offhand
< 1371035153 174853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean i want a compositionlike law
< 1371035236 828782 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember reading what a profunctor is but then i forgot RIP
< 1371035250 863054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1371035255 311797 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think shachaf even explained it to someone once?
< 1371035261 23200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????????
< 1371035277 668631 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check
< 1371035324 198873 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as with most things" defn of profunctors depends on who you ask
< 1371035335 446814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1371035340 444719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta ask a pro
< 1371035342 61497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously
< 1371035370 399950 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
< 1371035378 139101 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A profunctor is simply a bifunctor that is contravariant in its first argument.
< 1371035393 119506 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see thats the answer you get if you ask Taneb
< 1371035398 255302 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but covariant in its second?
< 1371035399 182495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you a pro
< 1371035410 890751 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I have a hat
< 1371035414 547834 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some chocolate
< 1371035418 849427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that make me a pro
< 1371035425 398073 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oops i actually imagined this
< 1371035426 591479 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP
< 1371035434 536383 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The chocolate is in a cardboard box
< 1371035440 96664 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The box is wearing the hat
< 1371035555 625489 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i feel like category theory but i'm being forced to do other dumb things
< 1371035572 34161 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try not being forced to do other dumb things
< 1371035577 202499 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALT stick it to the man
< 1371035592 320552 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALT get someone to do stupid dumb things for you
< 1371035596 979884 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALT get someone to do category theory for you
< 1371035652 648135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALT TWIST category theory is dumb things
< 1371035661 604179 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good twist
< 1371035677 646707 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, apparently i was thinking of you explaining CoYoneda to bike in april
< 1371035796 251407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does coyoneda have to do with profunctors
< 1371035811 541992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: was the twist actually good or did you mean bad twist when you said good twist
< 1371035822 170060 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatd be a good twist wouldnt it
< 1371035822 279133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that would be a twist of its own(meta twist?)
< 1371035837 226195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never meta twist i didn't eat
< 1371035953 332584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i was as good as mnoqy at things
< 1371035961 151072 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1371035963 841638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: how can i become as good as you (or better)
< 1371035973 940661 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf/mnoqy otp
< 1371035987 214353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? otp
< 1371035987 543620 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
< 1371035988 784364 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :otp? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371036024 624019 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "only ten pounds" | wisdom/otp
< 1371036026 470471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb....
< 1371036026 542393 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/otp: No such file or directory
< 1371036047 321729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worries, no worries
< 1371036050 542375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb...
< 1371036051 151707 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs "Taneb..."
< 1371036063 94766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run type -a sponge
< 1371036065 532824 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29240
< 1371036066 590994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: type: sponge: not found
< 1371036089 869765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'cat > wisdom/otp' > wisdom/otp; chmod +x wisdom/otp
< 1371036091 931559 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pastelogs "Taneb..."
< 1371036093 291323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371036094 677723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "only ten pounds" | wisdom/otp
< 1371036108 170449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31150
< 1371036110 73299 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371036115 49096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? otp
< 1371036116 724863 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...bots in AW will no longer be free
< 1371036117 104500 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :only ten pounds
< 1371036122 948931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah
< 1371036127 969580 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, lern to regex
< 1371036169 683203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, for god's sake why do you still care
< 1371036316 235436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Phantom_Hoover makes a very good point.
< 1371036795 216369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey mnoqy
< 1371036797 185064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw me a sheep
< 1371036859 117055 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :🐑
< 1371036899 651421 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pastelogs "Taneb\.\.\."
< 1371036909 888685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pastelogs "Taneb\\.\\.\\."
< 1371036921 363014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16794
< 1371036936 70553 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3067
< 1371036987 697093 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pastelogs "Sgeo_*\\.\\.\\."
< 1371037003 757870 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17444
< 1371037036 970668 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-04-11.txt:01:05:11:  well yes hes picky about trivialities that much is obvious. those ui concerns are real but the underlying issue is that he --sgeo..............................................
< 1371037037 42982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : <- best one imo
< 1371037264 465230 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371038320 36844 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371039038 951416 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha!
< 1371039053 520085 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot I had contributed to that kickstarter
< 1371039090 150426 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Girl Genius and the Rats of Mechanicsburg
< 1371039191 160232 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371039194 312770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is girl genius bad
< 1371039376 420406 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :( (note: i have only limited experience with it)
< 1371039417 648611 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comic has won five WCCA awards including 2008 Outstanding Comic, and been nominated for a Hugo Award for Best Professional Artist, an Eagle Award and twice for an Eisner Award; in 2009, 2010, and 2011 it won the Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story.
< 1371039426 907049 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UM it sounds like THESE PEOPLE disagree with you
< 1371039445 56022 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nb idk anything about this comic but its probably really bad and awful
< 1371039521 171042 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this art style is amazing. i am digging these faces.
< 1371039785 282149 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I enjoy it
< 1371039826 628814 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: whats your experience with it...youve gotta compete with an "enjoying it"
< 1371039842 178769 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked at the art
< 1371039844 685467 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ the name
< 1371039942 823619 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name is lame and the subtitle is lame too but i cant belive you dont dig the art
< 1371039975 435078 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean just look at this [latest comic] http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/ggmain/strips/ggmain20130612.jpg
< 1371040089 784127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with the comic strip style where you
< 1371040098 441322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bold words in almost every sentence
< 1371040101 294166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they do it
< 1371040112 397756 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question
< 1371040137 165185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what i'm talking about right
< 1371040149 134647 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371040168 476950 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought that was there to like
< 1371040170 919003 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mark the intonation
< 1371040204 847354 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but would you really stress that "NEED"? it's ridic.
< 1371040211 812404 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's probably something else...
< 1371040259 921805 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BoldInflation
< 1371040966 634811 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371041079 452595 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371041337 895982 :ASMK568!~g23vt568@212.150.107.171 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371041338 116962 :ASMK568!~g23vt568@212.150.107.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.me  
< 1371041338 185466 :ASMK568!~g23vt568@212.150.107.171 PART :#esoteric
< 1371041348 219105 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371041921 921861 :ASMK879!~g23vt879@212.150.107.171 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371041922 34000 :ASMK879!~g23vt879@212.150.107.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.me  
< 1371041922 34184 :ASMK879!~g23vt879@212.150.107.171 PART :#esoteric
< 1371041928 566019 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371041968 467250 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371041983 803272 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thatd be rude taking peoples' friends
< 1371042516 159505 :ASMK574!~g23vt574@212.150.107.171 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371042516 379003 :ASMK574!~g23vt574@212.150.107.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.me  
< 1371042516 450740 :ASMK574!~g23vt574@212.150.107.171 PART :#esoteric
< 1371042525 412083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371042572 966704 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371042676 390651 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1371042685 214897 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would befunge look like on a hyperbolic plane
< 1371042700 240103 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad
< 1371042730 263383 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the question is: you need to slap some sort of tesselation down, so what will it be
< 1371042733 356583 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :octagons?????????????????????
< 1371042744 173556 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking pentagons
< 1371042775 307829 :itsy!~digital_w@146.90.40.43 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexhams?
< 1371042781 551688 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm whats the optimal--what--polygon
< 1371042795 109688 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heptagons
< 1371042800 113979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: triangles are the optimal polygone hth
< 1371042808 900602 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen heptagons done before, i think
< 1371042810 394155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in general. not talkking about tesselation
< 1371042814 929612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the best polygon
< 1371042816 203467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangles
< 1371042824 978432 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think "hyperrogue" does heptagons)
< 1371042838 720747 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((its a roguelike in hyperbolic plane, if u're uncultured))
< 1371042864 337814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: am i uncultured
< 1371042869 753236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know that but now i know it
< 1371042950 421685 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure everyone here is cultured now, as of that line
< 1371042971 401493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you were so uncultured to start with
< 1371042975 224006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't even know how to read
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< 1371043025 898286 :ASMK324!~g23vt324@212.150.107.171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to take someone offline Friends, Game Servers, Website? Join iBooter ! ibooter.me  
< 1371043026 6949 :ASMK324!~g23vt324@212.150.107.171 PART :#esoteric
< 1371043030 227089 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~𝐩𝐥𝐨𝐭 𝐭𝐰𝐢𝐬𝐭~
< 1371043031 508402 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1371043194 863291 :itsy!~digital_w@146.90.40.43 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to join iBooter...

< 1371043209 373603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (i think "hyperrogue" does heptagons)
< 1371043223 868682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it uses heptagons and hexagons iirc
< 1371043229 314397 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh both??? lame
< 1371043239 664956 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its been a while since ive looked at it
< 1371043240 374673 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i dunno why
< 1371043252 43114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of tesseleation is that
< 1371043255 511822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a messelation
< 1371043264 380168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : What would befunge look like on a hyperbolic plane
< 1371043265 960740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1371043267 121578 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird
< 1371043281 518406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you're using the 5-square tiling
< 1371043303 806579 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately befunge never uses diagonal adjacency afaik so that avoids some awkward problems
< 1371043322 220626 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah there are definitely hexagons in here with the heptagons wtf
< 1371043360 191516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371043363 885494 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it this tiling:  What would befunge look like on a hyperbolic plane
< 1371043365 786842 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit
< 1371043370 401637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Uniform_tiling_73-t12.png
< 1371043399 605564 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it
< 1371043453 505691 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H2_tiling_24i-4.png ok
< 1371043463 356867 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge on that tiling: bestfunge?
< 1371043583 340925 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yiiiiikes
< 1371043618 553629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H2chess_24ic.png the edges in this diagram are the set of straight lines for program execution
< 1371043727 37457 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i just realised all the white/black regions in that diagram are infinity-gons
< 1371043787 123417 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371044320 836524 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man. what if: infinite-dimensional space, R^\infty, points are functions N -> R
< 1371044332 5657 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we've tried that before
< 1371044333 448801 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this probably already exists??? it's so boring
< 1371044351 354023 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that you're still only able to use a countable subspace
< 1371044375 794905 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious one is only allow finitely supported functions
< 1371044404 462502 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :countable subspace?
< 1371044437 229088 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371044455 516812 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't every total function N -> R define a point + aren't functions N -> R uncountable
< 1371044473 49472 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :????
< 1371044475 561115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you can only specify a countable number of those functions
< 1371044482 463835 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost all functions are uncomputable
< 1371044503 702605 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that kinda "use"
< 1371044504 177117 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371044504 688455 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh by "define a point" you mean...yeah
< 1371044541 855793 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you mean, it'd be countable in the same way that the subset of R you can "use" is countable, right)
< 1371044604 523832 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the neat thing is you get points that are infinitely far from the origin, but are finite in all dimensions, like (1,1,1,1,...)
< 1371044656 785797 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: what would the equation for a line be
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< 1371044696 215919 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "line" in a vector spac is just a 1-dimensional subspace
< 1371044704 74766 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heres an easy one
< 1371044730 976019 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\{f : f(x) = 0 for all x > 0\}
< 1371044734 756639 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man i was
< 1371044735 781360 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :typing that!!
< 1371044755 153022 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also
< 1371044755 950541 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt
< 1371044757 423701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, p + lv, where p and v are pretty much arbitrary vectors
< 1371044765 244810 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:43:24  anyway the neat thing is you get points that are infinitely far  from the origin, but are finite in all dimensions, like  (1,1,1,1,...)
< 1371044774 885904 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you only allow finitely supported functions!!!
< 1371044782 882333 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(imo a sane restriction)
< 1371044794 490940 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo insane + boring
< 1371044816 929088 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much like myself!
< 1371044825 946814 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow i just noticed i put \'s on my { and }
< 1371044831 61365 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost wrote \forall too
< 1371044837 411698 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what have i come
< 1371044840 658694 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also neat: there are non-finitely supported functions (btw thanks for teaching me this words) with a finite distance to the origin!!
< 1371044861 999607 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like f(x) = 1 / sqrt(2^x) would have a norm of 2
< 1371044873 359206 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um what norm are we using here
< 1371044880 196658 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uh    | |  thing
< 1371044883 449365 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :th e f hu   uhh
< 1371044888 276350 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :distance to (0,0,0,0,...)
< 1371044894 117402 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but which norm
< 1371044913 667584 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: i'm dumb) which norms do i get to choose from
< 1371044919 385909 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any norm you want
< 1371044934 397830 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i calculated that using uh
< 1371044958 459919 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|f| = \sqrt{ sum_{i=0}^\infty f(i)^2 }
< 1371044958 569798 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the "l2" norm is popular (smile)
< 1371044978 741406 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes"
< 1371044979 175344 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it'd have a norm of \sqrt 2 i guess
< 1371045000 693607 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's "euclidean norm"
< 1371045001 47040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1371045007 10769 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"l2 norm"
< 1371045016 142971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's even the euclidean norm in infinite dimensions
< 1371045024 887302 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"doesnt really exist sorry"
< 1371045033 135916 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest thing to a sensible value i can think of for |(1,1,1,1,1,...)| is 1
< 1371045057 428497 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for |(1,1,1,...)| it'd be infinite RIP
< 1371045074 709192 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably makes this "not very euclidean"
< 1371045091 628575 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as ph notes the l_\infty norm is "preferable"
< 1371045116 114110 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but things still dont always have those norms
< 1371045126 678238 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the identity function wouldnt
< 1371045127 919430 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh
< 1371045135 952501 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'd you calculate the l_\infty norm
< 1371045140 17447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk
< 1371045140 821032 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i dont actually know of any norms for infinite dimensional spaces off hand)
< 1371045155 331704 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lim n^(1/n) = 1
< 1371045162 822142 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp_space
< 1371045182 594642 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: its just the maximum of all the absolute values
< 1371045189 142352 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ofc., l_\infty is-- yep
< 1371045199 862501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember proving the groundwork for that in analysis
< 1371045203 734668 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequence_space
< 1371045225 272866 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how i invented this independently though!!
< 1371045234 734713 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are a thing yes
< 1371045243 852072 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iv dealt with them like once
< 1371045254 96927 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe twicE????
< 1371045257 325668 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows really
< 1371045271 128937 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i should Math more
< 1371045295 955903 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about you felt like category theorying
< 1371045304 666973 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm yes
< 1371045317 329931 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw im going to be taking a category theory course in about      6 years
< 1371045321 587432 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"isnt that great"
< 1371045328 221134 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(university)
< 1371045336 914426 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 years?
< 1371045341 431174 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not sooner
< 1371045351 670969 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. how do you know they offer cat theory (i dont know what university this is)
< 1371045544 391965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you do category theory in warwick until postgrad stuff but probably you can do it in 4th year
< 1371045680 93068 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it depends on the university as to how friendly they are about undergraduates taking graduate courses.........im just really used to it by now
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< 1371045905 597249 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/qyMCRSJ.png
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< 1371046017 918522 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categorietheorie
< 1371046051 851705 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a "first year (master)" course which means i need a bachelor degree first which takes 3 years
< 1371046070 960989 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do they really not let you go out of sequence. laughs
< 1371046073 272603 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then of course there's one more year of "high school" before "university" even starts!!
< 1371046094 614862 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'[
< 1371046102 671524 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i hear next year involves
< 1371046112 149301 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :integrals: but ONLY numerically
< 1371046114 948986 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-)
< 1371046120 475734 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im weeping
< 1371046124 232463 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also circles and geometry and boring stuff
< 1371046127 23741 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im weeping
< 1371046139 998792 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371046167 463593 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :integrals... but only numerically?
< 1371046175 338345 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371046180 128771 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean you're not actually going to cover symbolic integration
< 1371046183 93684 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
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< 1371046190 666200 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's "university level" :')
< 1371046197 959918 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371046228 1616 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :integration is for losers anyway though
< 1371046248 628077 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i needed it was a probability course and i just used a computer algebra system to do all my integrals for me
< 1371046268 594329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have done too many integrals this year
< 1371046302 11956 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i hate most of this stuff because
< 1371046303 444778 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was....a year ago.......and the last time i had needed them prior to that was..........gosh like 4 or 5 years ago
< 1371046310 830094 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deriving functions manually is hell
< 1371046326 513653 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deriving? OH you mean like calculus derivatives
< 1371046335 862663 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the exam is no-calculator and you can't check it (yeah) and it's
< 1371046391 571166 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh (smirk)          hm come to think of it i did some other "integral and derivatives stuff" last year but it was analysis so instead of doing computations it was analysis.
< 1371046416 991028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, wait, do they expect you to actually like... manually... numerically... integrate?
< 1371046428 398836 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are approximation techniques
< 1371046431 712496 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1371046437 658369 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no the integration is gonna be done on a ti-84
< 1371046452 311408 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm and iv been seeing a bunch of "ends" recently which are notated like integrals
< 1371046463 778231 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have to know how to symbolically work out derivatives though
< 1371046476 505391 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an "end"
< 1371046481 844184 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :derivatives are easy though
< 1371046489 688216 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a limit except instead of a cone you have a wedge
< 1371046494 268644 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but square roots........
< 1371046499 534512 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quotient rule is like the hardest thing you have to do
< 1371046510 231648 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :square roots are just 1/2sqrt(x)
< 1371046510 815632 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: but 2nd derivatives involving quotient rule ......................
< 1371046520 758386 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw also good:
< 1371046522 591157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes those are horrible
< 1371046524 20852 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we didn't cover the chain rule
< 1371046529 102160 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i
< 1371046532 518597 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead learning a bunch of extra formulae for
< 1371046537 74126 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/dx sqrt(f(x))
< 1371046539 28500 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-)))))
< 1371046555 691677 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: http://nlab.mathforge.org/nlab/show/end
< 1371046598 431124 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do ends end up being equivalent to integrals in some category
< 1371046654 807426 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo everyone should explain CT concepts as "in Set, it's this"
< 1371046659 511870 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk :[ idk what that would even mean
< 1371046678 664596 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are limits/colimits in Set even
< 1371046702 609498 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ps i don't know what CT (co-)limits are other than "they exist")
< 1371046725 636102 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well see limits are actually equivalent to proper limits in... some category
< 1371046761 705689 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :limits are infima in preorder categories
< 1371046768 377152 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, colimits are suprema
< 1371046778 517761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats goig on here
< 1371046784 224794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :categories
< 1371046785 857910 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell if i know
< 1371046788 893905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuk
< 1371046927 25589 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: i dont know all the pedagogical tools for explaining most category theory things so all i can do is make bad jokes :(
< 1371046944 512030 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me you haven't read my type theory joke
< 1371046958 680749 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet its not as good as elliott's homotopy type theory joke
< 1371046978 164286 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: why do type theorists have trouble opening bags
< 1371046989 641885 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a: they can't discern the bag from its zipper
< 1371046995 69128 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1371047005 293506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my homotopy type theory joke is fnatastic nooodl
< 1371047006 839138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard it
< 1371047008 659456 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371047011 307594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:34:11  joke: do you relate type-theoretic equality to the paths of homotopy theory, because you're pretty HoTT
< 1371047022 802761 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1371047069 516712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i want to know is, can you do all the stuff with ants and elastic bands and toruses in htt
< 1371047095 85739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there's work on doing homotopy theory in hott
< 1371047111 556491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds incredibly funny
< 1371047122 343792 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: rate my joke please
< 1371047135 596465 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: miserable
< 1371047152 866831 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm offended
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< 1371047349 68045 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome lambdabot
< 1371047352 588660 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03lambda11bot: Welcome to the02 internat07ional12 h08ub for esoteric p05rogramming04 lang06u13age design and deploym03e12nt11! For mo06re inf10orma11tion, c03heck out our w06iki: http://es11ol03ang07s13.org/wiki/Main_Page.11 (For the06 12othe05r kind of esot11erica06, 06t10ry #esoteric on i02rc.dal.net.)
< 1371047443 137270 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t absurd
< 1371047443 930090 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `absurd'
< 1371047447 437679 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t _1
< 1371047448 123289 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `_1'
< 1371047453 136711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> absurd
< 1371047454 76670 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `absurd'
< 1371047456 23607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371047519 847609 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id
< 1371047520 739292 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0)
< 1371047520 834836 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use ...
< 1371047527 440127 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> id :: Show a => a -> a
< 1371047528 602127 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  <() -> ()>
< 1371047529 709299 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371048220 169502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: can't have lens/void until hashable bug is fixed
< 1371049126 295381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does lambdabot do the monomorphism restriction thing too?
< 1371049161 446466 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What hashable bug?
< 1371049292 585102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/tibbe/hashable/issues/69
< 1371049332 932444 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see
< 1371049356 66460 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want to do it yourself locally for now?
< 1371049472 86855 :itsy!~digital_w@146.90.40.43 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371049922 291303 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371050348 444202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem I just solved for #esoteric to guess at: what's the standard UNIX command for determining the modification time of a file, in a format that can be piped into other programs?
< 1371050378 258612 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir?
< 1371050388 432692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371050391 615781 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371050395 672347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to get ls to work for ages, but it doesn't
< 1371050396 997670 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I close?
< 1371050411 747794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the options to output machine-readable formats are mutually exclusive with the options to output dates
< 1371050416 823722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date works for mtime, at least
< 1371050423 454827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not for atime or ctime, I guess you're meant to use perl for those
< 1371050580 320334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how would it be rmdir?
< 1371050586 544837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I'd rather not
< 1371051200 472749 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371051211 433213 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371051729 113681 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371051877 108597 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371053105 46360 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371053205 534266 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371055288 637826 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371055306 39502 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i got fucken kickbanned for opping in ##esoteric
< 1371055324 334318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371055331 547910 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it
< 1371055335 371464 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome back, gasoline
< 1371055338 785467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ##esoteric anyway
< 1371055338 857026 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04b02ack,: g07asoline: Welcome 13to 07the i02nternational hub for eso11teri02c p04rogramming langu10a09ge design an10d deploy14ment! For m08ore 10information, check o11ut our wiki: http10://e08s06olang12s.org05/wiki/06Main_Page. (Fo07r the other 06kind of esoteri11ca, 03try #esoteric 06on irc.d09al.net.12)
< 1371055353 490594 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me it was a typo
< 1371055365 887486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: gasoline is a troll, btw
< 1371055372 115291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371055373 49697 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott 
< 1371055373 374688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: what was their other name again
< 1371055378 371556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so I can pastelogs)
< 1371055384 413972 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: gosh its on the tip of my tongue
< 1371055388 625146 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;ll have to look it up
< 1371055391 279118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs 
< 1371055392 876113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, was going to ask "do you have evidence for that?"
< 1371055402 215383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, the last thing they said last time was that they'd be back :)
< 1371055410 244522 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20011
< 1371055418 897964 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might as well pastelog the fucken answer too dude
< 1371055430 921287 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: newstalker
< 1371055443 768714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371055446 299604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ah yes
< 1371055448 654551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs newstalker
< 1371055456 366767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well he/she's making more sense now than before, at least
< 1371055461 178529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should get a new news-ham called news-talker
< 1371055463 406791 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.7432
< 1371055463 562250 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :your bot is lagging 
< 1371055471 885655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sugg. reading ^
< 1371055478 589526 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :who programmed that piece of crap
< 1371055493 440950 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :its fucken slooooow dude
< 1371055494 882891 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺)
< 1371055505 689912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-02.txt:14:32:26: -!- ChanServ changed the modes of #esoteric: +v newstalker
< 1371055511 482622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm parting so i don't have to read this shit
< 1371055512 278536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1371055523 772580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: chanserv knew what had to be done
< 1371055530 612226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's responsible for that?
< 1371055538 707273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chanserv
< 1371055557 495928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, who told chanserv to
< 1371055567 232481 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :chanserv is one busy mofo
< 1371055574 671835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying chanserv isn't allowed to do things by its own free will
< 1371055581 888826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's allowed to, it just doesn't
< 1371055598 833104 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ?! 
< 1371055602 912217 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ?
< 1371055608 762379 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what dude
< 1371055611 599243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371055618 808119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we get the banning part out of the way with
< 1371055621 657853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think I know who did the voicing
< 1371055623 117938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is always so tedious
< 1371055635 403579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well you know how I'm typically pretty slow to ban people
< 1371055644 371799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this channel have a rule against offtopic discussion?
< 1371055664 417462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol do you actually look at that pastelogs and just see "offtopic discussion" :DDD
< 1371055668 647349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is so great
< 1371055670 551099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I was trying to troll you :)
< 1371055675 756557 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is the channel homosexual
< 1371055686 168134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, gasoline, why are you insulting people randomly?
< 1371055694 872123 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll up dude 
< 1371055701 174846 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fucken cheat
< 1371055702 317649 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about you op me so i can kickban repeat offenders like this without the boring ritual in front of it
< 1371055706 867583 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks in to see if anyone's talking about esolangs...

< 1371055707 853131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that'd be great and efficient
< 1371055708 424994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't, I've got about 3 screenfuls of chanserv help messages
< 1371055714 630165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: as if :)
< 1371055732 183554 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone is insulting its elliott and his "welcome"
< 1371055733 276691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well part of the reason you aren't an op is we're worried you'd be a bit too trigger-hapy
< 1371055737 540708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trigger-happy
< 1371055740 327251 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: i hear there was a great "derp code" language recently
< 1371055756 313507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point I've already made my mind up to kick gasoline, though, but I'm waiting to see his/her reaction because I think it'll be amusing
< 1371055763 769198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's true, i make sure to ban at least five people from #haskell every day
< 1371055767 516400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my quota... for blood
< 1371055772 187818 :gasoline!~gasoline@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :youre a subversive ais523 
< 1371055779 484060 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523
> 1371055779 841750 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371055781 646112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasoline: btw mnoqy was the one who welcomed you
< 1371055783 11994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 KICK #esoteric gasoline :that's a boring reaction :(
< 1371055836 708270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: odds on how long before he/she tries to rejoin?
< 1371055842 612491 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS there any interesting more recent esoteric language?
< 1371055874 970385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd love it if there were
< 1371055888 509701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something I was thinking about a while ago, discarded, and started thinking about again
< 1371055904 940705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "can you get interesting computational complexity from the word-wrap algorithm used by every editor ever?"
< 1371055908 30796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the answer is no, though
< 1371056050 836311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if they're sad enough to come back two times they are probably fine waiting
< 1371056061 845597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why bans are good, so that someone who is not welcome in the channel can be prevented from disrupting it even when ops aren't around
< 1371056082 889098 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but pretty much any troll who knows what they're doing can bypass bans anyway
< 1371056101 672855 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs bans with ever vigilant ops like #esoteric;s
< 1371056113 998307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this person strike you as the kind of person who knows what they're doing
< 1371056120 66080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me like they are incredibly stupid
< 1371056141 666603 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure thats what they want you to think
< 1371056277 55183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric +b :#esoteric!*@*
> 1371056277 77233 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371056281 145377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, hmm
< 1371056285 969254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371056307 422078 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP
< 1371056307 675096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371056318 956940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well I tried to ban them and my IRC client segfaulted
< 1371056327 616483 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523
> 1371056327 639806 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371056331 582229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -b :#esoteric!*@*
> 1371056331 604954 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371056334 139716 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hecked you
< 1371056335 985318 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they know...
< 1371056348 35808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that was a good ban
< 1371056349 405140 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO reinstate it
< 1371056356 539778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@5ED28E0D.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl
> 1371056356 562459 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371056363 456556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's meaningless
< 1371056365 868268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it?
< 1371056373 205543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a channel can't send messages to itself, insufficient free will
< 1371056375 993697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, if #esoteric joined #esoteric...
< 1371056380 959618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you're so rude
< 1371056392 399278 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes he's dutch
< 1371056422 875121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Konversation's capacity for interesting responses to typos continues to amuse me
< 1371056426 706954 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is an invalid nickname, so, imo ban it
< 1371056501 70643 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many ops does #esoteric have?
< 1371056523 127902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6
< 1371056538 559789 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they all active?
< 1371056541 951437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although one of them is freenode-staff, one of them is never seen, and one of them turns up occasionally to troll
< 1371056548 95593 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371056561 783884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving three who might reasonably ban a troll (me, fizze, and oerjan)
< 1371056580 884488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what happened last time lament was here?
< 1371056589 977431 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have weird opinions about irc moderation, but...
< 1371056590 49253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they turned up, unbanned a troll, and the troll turned up too and started trolling?
< 1371056611 583852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -o :ais523
> 1371056611 606748 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371056620 169063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they unbanned dbelange and he joined
< 1371056620 907995 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i frequent a ~40 user channel where literally every regular is an op and it's extremely convenient
< 1371056626 920717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lament knows dbelange from #math or someting
< 1371056627 718107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right
< 1371056628 959654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably he invited him
< 1371056640 590497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs 
< 1371056644 903817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to check what that ban was for
< 1371056652 849281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember it was warranted, but not why
< 1371056655 315660 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.2521
< 1371056666 40417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: dbelange is infamous as an IRC troll
< 1371056667 831597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently
< 1371056692 699917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, that's pretty trolly
< 1371056693 764343 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if anyones written a Quine in Mouse http://esolangs.org/wiki/Mouse

< 1371056709 185237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's saying something coming from you.
< 1371056720 312634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: if it's been around that long, probably
< 1371056728 269808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if it caught on enough to have a book written about it
< 1371056760 473402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, INTERCAL's had a book written about it (the newest manual; I spent a Christmas writing that)
< 1371056768 607490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but reverse-admittedly, INTERCAL also has a quine
< 1371056833 272925 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-210-104.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
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< 1371057253 392688 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't you be working, Sgeo|work
< 1371057312 42905 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371057320 540959 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was told to relax a bit
< 1371057360 176100 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah...
< 1371057417 772693 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what universe is hpaste.org a proxy avoidance site?
< 1371057448 435483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpaste.orgs a full disk site
< 1371057461 991621 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about exotic porn
< 1371057563 300407 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the closest I got to a Mouse Quine: #f;34!'#f;34!'64!'$ f"#f;34!'#f;34!'64!'$ f"@
< 1371057598 145506 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is ! in a string represents a newline :-(
< 1371057980 772751 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Webchat keeps the tab saying Activity! even when there is no activity
< 1371058014 78681 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe webchat isn't the best client
< 1371059040 343793 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-99.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo elliott you have a hott date with a book
< 1371059073 844176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty
< 1371059621 740125 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371059624 165413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he gone
< 1371059645 807707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371059656 586838 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is who gone?
< 1371059661 257212 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371059717 971124 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1371059772 892641 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, ais523 is a form of version control?
< 1371059786 899882 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any classic Mac experts here?
< 1371059808 734950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I kicked him/her for being insufficiently amusing for us to permit a troll here, then my client segfaulted when I tried to ban him/her
< 1371059825 268611 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :them, ais
< 1371059834 84515 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fuck's sake, just say 'them' like a normal person
< 1371059844 714091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do sometimes
< 1371059846 119344 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :em
< 1371059861 724818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do that sometimes too, but more frequently just to Agorans
< 1371059864 647652 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-99.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bla bla nonbinary exclusion bla
< 1371059871 524870 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :em is totally the normal thing to say if you assume everyone not in Agora is nonnormal
< 1371059878 632966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :em is dumb
< 1371059881 594941 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-99.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway apparently there are crypto startups i didn't know this
< 1371059883 951936 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spivak pronouns are dumb
< 1371059889 840621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have explained this before
< 1371059910 684590 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e is the only dumb spivak pronoun but I still prefer it over ey because tradition
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< 1371063297 402654 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there supposed to be anything interesting about DL?
< 1371063440 121239 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DL?
< 1371063467 470197 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/DL
< 1371063567 375671 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: Compression algorithm that is lossless iff some unsolved conjecture is true
< 1371063567 757122 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371063578 104825 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the no was wrt dl
< 1371063583 901473 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres nothing interesting aboout this language
< 1371063646 497714 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a conjecture that goes something like this, right?: Any number can be expressed as the sum of X Y
< 1371063653 760726 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are X and Y, which conjecture? I forgot
< 1371063673 449170 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :primes? Or something?
< 1371063698 863587 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbach_conjecture
< 1371063702 166118 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one?
< 1371063719 104032 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1371063836 901166 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a picture of the Goldbach Conjecture as a program looking for counterexamples: https://github.com/tromp/AIT/blob/master/goldbach.gif
< 1371063891 790294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2d3 * 2d7 / 99d6
< 1371063891 900841 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (3+3) * (7+4) / 347 => 66/347 => 0.1902
< 1371063894 543983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute
< 1371063919 267298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_: also cute
< 1371063943 823287 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RLE for BF that can express any BF program stripped of comments iff Goldbach is true: {2;2+} means following character repeated 4 times, the two numbers must be primes, + means just add the two, - means add them then subtract one, multiple of a character outside {} not allowed... oh, need to allow for ++ somehow, hmm
< 1371063956 694567 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thought of something productive I could be doing
< 1371063966 46961 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lambda calculus term that normalizes iff GC is false
< 1371064210 866729 :Sgeo|work!d802c101@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.2.193.1 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1371064420 276297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371064705 53883 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371064710 792242 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371064792 99945 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The following appear 5+ times in Pascal's Triangle: 120, 210, 1540, 7140, 11628, 24310 (all 6 times) & 3003 (8 times). Are there any others?
< 1371064971 883267 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 appears a LOT :)
< 1371065100 141131 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :61218182743304701891431482520 appears 6 or more times
< 1371065571 703357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can take the kmc out of the #haskell but you can never take the #haskell out of the kmc
< 1371065696 864533 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, I only checked 32 bit numbers...
< 1371065720 177094 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i checked google:(
< 1371065882 240817 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what happened
< 1371065917 220262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter
< 1371065937 517767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you tell someone "yes, haskell can do that"
< 1371065993 901174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371066061 27281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made some sequent calculus representation of Turing machines. It only uses the right side of the sequents. If combined with classical logic, the result is inconsistent, although I think it can be consistently combined with linear logic.
< 1371066172 925669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have time right now to put it into the computer, but I will on the weekend, so that you can see.
< 1371066179 314810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke kmc
< 1371066182 497891 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371066191 600053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of any such things like this?
< 1371066304 771451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be curious to see that zzo38]
< 1371066418 847573 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: On weekend I will have time to put it into the computer, I hope.
< 1371066418 920142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe when I do that, you can also tell me if you found a mistake in it.
< 1371066423 878986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371066530 988970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Turing machine and its current state and tape are represented by a multiset of formulas on the right of the sequent, and it is provable if and only if it halts.
< 1371066710 507900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have the rule of cut and of identity and of weakening and so on; it starts from nothing (this is needed for many kinds of non-classical logic, where such rules don't apply, you can't start with those!).
< 1371066788 273176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could a esolang be made based on sequent calculus somehow?
< 1371066889 974313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: looks like a good #haskell-style argument
< 1371066937 208348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the person you were arguing with really switch to "i agree with you but other people don't?"
< 1371066946 940684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/..$/"?/
< 1371066967 998516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf:
< 1371066970 591565 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371066975 445113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Foo a = Bar | Quux a
< 1371066975 932476 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:123:6:
< 1371066976 29045 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Multiple declarations of `Foo'
< 1371066976 100962 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Declared at: .L.hs:119...
< 1371066980 211055 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Fooo a = Bar | Quux a
< 1371066980 910993 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371066990 282839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Show (Fooo a) where show Bar = "q"; show _ = "r"
< 1371066991 26106 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371066991 162568 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371066992 284497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Quux ()
< 1371066995 305599 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  r
< 1371066998 186527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine
< 1371066998 274166 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1371067010 103342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also want to see what happen if you do combine this Turing machine logic with linear logic, to see what it makes. I believe the result is consistent but I haven't proven it. (I have proven that combining Turing machine logic with classical logic results in an inconsistent logic.)
< 1371067062 189198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i didn't notice
< 1371067072 881656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> instance Typeable (Fooo a)
< 1371067073 796694 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :1:1: parse error on input `instance'
< 1371067080 948769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Typeable (Fooo a)
< 1371067081 447750 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:119:20: Not in scope: type constructor or class `Fooo'
< 1371067092 897767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Hi; instance Typeable Hi
< 1371067093 397176 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:121:10:
< 1371067093 511185 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Can't create hand written instances of Typeable in Safe H...
< 1371067137 940987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other bot supported "> data ...", "let ...", like ghci. Maybe lambdabot should support that too.
< 1371067221 896474 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What value are a & b? 2 ? a ? b ? 99. Sam knows a+b. Pat knows a�b. Sam: "I don't know a & b. Nor do you." Pat: "I do now!" Sam: "So do I."
< 1371067226 293989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not my change
< 1371067230 514850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out this was already in lambdabot
< 1371067235 284859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who set up lambdabot? Then tell them, or program the patch and give it to them.
< 1371067236 983224 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem whose solution uses goldbach conjecture :-)
< 1371067259 882821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK then.
< 1371067305 291665 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What value are a & b? 2 <= a <= b <= 99. Sam knows a+b. Pat knows a�b. Sam: "I don't know a & b. Nor do you." Pat: "I do now!" Sam: "So do I." (IRC didn't like less than or equal character)
< 1371067333 398043 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371067337 570970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there it is
< 1371067346 407244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter is really bad at showing replies and at conversations generally
< 1371067349 892594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: That isn't due to IRC; it is due to whatever character encoding is being used might or might not support it, and if the client support that character encoding or not.
< 1371067351 478796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1371067394 742274 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
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< 1371067531 436534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I don't know how to make using sequent calculus is a pull-down resistor.
< 1371067566 926569 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy, how does Sam know that Pat doesn't know a and b?
< 1371067573 214074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does he work it out?
< 1371067638 310684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: At least I assume that must be.
< 1371067757 802061 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can the solution rely on the goldbach conjecture if a and b are <= 99?
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< 1371068177 688149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: is & bitwise and
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< 1371069714 264129 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1371070116 284541 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: jesus, that EFF case. the government argued that the court didn't have authority over its own files?
< 1371070233 379784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know
< 1371070252 644479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :state secrets trials are always a kafkaesque nightmare
< 1371070273 519757 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ;_;
< 1371070283 296309 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371070286 399649 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently a senator said "I hope in a classified setting that more of this can be brought light"
< 1371070289 855739 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like gee thanks
< 1371070303 48117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you publish classified information you will sometimes be forbidden from attending your own trial because, the evidence is classified
< 1371070336 776763 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's not relevant to this it's the "born secret" part that reallly gets me
< 1371070372 38361 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i invent a fusion bomb design it is classified
< 1371070496 287698 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they'll decide that works for crypto in the future or something, sigh
< 1371070498 398557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371070724 618570 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there that thing where they do the trials "in camera" with like a public and private version
< 1371070770 342058 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(geez why does "in camera" mean in private that makes no sense)
< 1371070786 526196 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow latin fetishism
< 1371070790 277690 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no.
< 1371070797 697733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no! 
< 1371070812 911895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My 'v6 tunnelbroker did what the name implies and broke down; just a moment.)
< 1371070835 731476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well if you're inside a camera
< 1371070838 784080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the camera can't take a picture of you
< 1371070843 117584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it makes sense!
< 1371070856 237951 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's a pinhole camera can't it project you
< 1371070857 365425 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371070876 451328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How can you take a photo in camera? 
< 1371070877 728179 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a lot of functions in r5rs that you can beat delphi and vb.net or whatever just by selling lisp for money instead of delphi or vb.net for money.
< 1371070885 130720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay.
< 1371070896 287870 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :camera is Latin for room
< 1371070901 688166 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Italian
< 1371070906 415687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :camera is Latin for Italian
< 1371070910 20652 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Oh, they did that (with the two versions) for the "born secret" trial.
< 1371070931 808406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh
< 1371070937 685789 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the one I was remembering it from, I think
< 1371070954 519585 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard about that because i have an omnibus of szilard's papers, half of which were classified derp
< 1371071037 550608 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got a spam message from my mobile provider saying "See who's taken notice as we've enhanced your mobile experience"
< 1371071044 50711 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sure sounds ominous in this context
< 1371071118 83055 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: & is just and
< 1371071159 811757 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be "I don't know a /or/ b"
< 1371071436 582680 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Sam works it out. (I.e. from a+b, Sam knows a�b can't be the product of two primes)
< 1371071455 766354 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and also "Since 1979, the FISA court rejected only 11 of 33,900 govt surveillance applications" so that's cool
< 1371071485 648615 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you know a, you know b.
< 1371071568 989551 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Phantom_Hoover http://24.media.tumblr.com/3260b4b8517dd6199069ee767ec86dfe/tumblr_moaf6cZXju1qaokvbo1_500.png help
< 1371071569 101097 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371071572 550681 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did any see about the German girl who got refused entry into the USA because the US govt read her private Facebook messages. (not posted to her wall or anything)
< 1371071580 404218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow
< 1371071618 603453 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow
< 1371071626 349393 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow
< 1371071689 19953 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: seen it already
< 1371071706 906334 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help?
< 1371071799 654571 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, why did you foist this upon me
< 1371071827 765822 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why is it "1942", what
< 1371071856 130371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might... be a joke? idk
< 1371071877 106353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc 1942 was when martin luther defeated the nazi's with catholicism
< 1371071926 410635 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god he rewrote the whole thing.
< 1371071938 525619 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«In a sense we've come to our nation's Internet to be meme-addicts. When the web-bloggers wrote the magnificent words of the Philosoraptor and the Nyancat, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to go "Ermahgerd!" This note was a promise that all men, yes, troll-face men as well as ridiculously photogenic guys, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "rage, being forever alone, and friendship is magic."»
< 1371071944 518367 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm done
< 1371071970 907561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hands out cyanide pills

< 1371071980 180919 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, in conclusion, he- thanks
< 1371072006 151906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: holy shit
< 1371072025 118707 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: holy shit
< 1371072036 436872 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does this exist
< 1371072045 152112 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know why, mnoqy
< 1371072051 128565 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im ended
< 1371072053 755809 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by that quote
< 1371072056 326769 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not asking why
< 1371072057 680607 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im asking how
< 1371072064 585234 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very carefully
< 1371072073 414310 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-]
< 1371072156 133673 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371072170 35263 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371072838 540857 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-183-67.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371073200 518379 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run relcome nooodl|chaf
< 1371073203 106262 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06nochaf10oodlchaf: W13elcomechaf t02ochaf thechaf internachaf11tionalchaf hubchaf f04orchaf es14otericchaf pr02ogramminchaf02gchaf l13anguagchaf03echaf designchaf andchaf d06eploymenchaf13tchaf12! Forchaf 10morechaf i14nformationchaf, chechaf14ckchaf outchaf o09uchaf11rchaf08 wikichaf: ht05tpchaf://e08schaf06olangschaf.or
< 1371073232 710207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many silly text transformers do we have
< 1371073253 801009 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unix, so infinity
< 1371073256 12628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/chaf
< 1371073257 600137 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sed -f \ s/\w\w\w\+/\0chaf/g
< 1371073274 368030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chaf hello
< 1371073275 749258 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELFchaf............>......@.....@.......�...........@.8..@....................@.......@.....:.......:......... ...........�.......�.@.....�.@.....$.......$..............Q�td...........................................................GNUchaf.ﲜ�@�+Sˆ�
< 1371073283 790353 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that... blinking...
< 1371073288 711696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hello | chaf
< 1371073289 148704 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371073290 279551 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellochaf
< 1371073292 611311 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid
< 1371073297 825384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo this is some nonsense | chaf
< 1371073299 594225 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :thischaf is somechaf nonsensechaf
< 1371073306 959342 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah, there's a blink code on irc?
< 1371073312 487168 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah this is news to me
< 1371073314 674440 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺
< 1371073320 33652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run relcome sha|chaf
< 1371073321 916265 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371073322 936844 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13schaf07hachaf: Welcchaf04omechaf to 02thchaf02echaf interchaf03natichaf14onalchaf hu13bchaf04 forchaf esotericchaf prochaf04grammingchaf languchaf14agechaf designchaf andchaf deploymechaf10ntchaf! Forchaf m12orechaf i10nformchaf12ationchaf,09 checkchaf outchaf o04urchaf 09wikichaf: httpchaf://esolangschaf.orgchaf/02wikchaf0
< 1371073325 292985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371073327 565768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :schafhachaf
< 1371073340 765389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangschaf.orgchaf
< 1371073346 317813 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still confused bout prochafgrammingchaf languchafagechaf
< 1371073351 188310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/chaf
< 1371073354 466409 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371073354 888816 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no!
< 1371073360 557949 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest in peacechaf
< 1371073364 782509 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1371073366 240412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its amazing
< 1371073367 866712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1371073371 785820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the goal to make me turn off the hilight?
< 1371073386 892334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ps did you write this
< 1371073388 910602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should set the hilight to be kmc-only.
< 1371073392 127166 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: me?
< 1371073395 699641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you used it
< 1371073395 808624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently nooodl did.
< 1371073396 389624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no such goal
< 1371073429 788908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you running for prime minister
< 1371073686 498562 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the hilight for, chaf\b?
< 1371073694 576562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes
< 1371074438 20443 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371074532 403015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371074552 855898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371074620 364911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's a different slur! <-- [dk][iy]ke ?  actually there's a not yet mentioned non-slur matching that, too
< 1371074720 312248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm now google isn't answering
< 1371074764 506149 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen one of those spellings
< 1371074795 994228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an elaborate system of dikes and polders
< 1371074798 614304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't think kyke is a word hth
< 1371074812 310639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it might still be, this is english after all)
< 1371074836 828149 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah apparently it's an accepted other spelling
< 1371074847 782242 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like anyone's really dogmatically enforcing spellings of slurs
< 1371074858 484653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :accepted alternate spellings: [a-z]*
< 1371074860 438601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fack that
< 1371074878 618841 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be such a uaqbn, kmc
< 1371074916 998266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday i wondered what's the longest word that can be typed on the dvorak home row
< 1371074918 89333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh apparently both dike and dyke can be used in both meanings
< 1371074921 590372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be such a kmc, uaqbn
< 1371074926 384913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :works both ways
< 1371074932 901444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears to be 'tendentiousness'
< 1371074960 682926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it for qwerty
< 1371074962 825284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i used to know
< 1371074963 712019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for qwerty the best you can do is 'alfalfa'
< 1371074968 465526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak
< 1371074993 13615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the top row the longest (and most famous) word is 'typewriter'
< 1371075007 596403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is some indication of how fucked up qwerty is
< 1371075032 4986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about bottom row
< 1371075035 883029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xczvnmxzcv
< 1371075038 648681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mxncvmznv
< 1371075043 558959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alfalfa salad has all
< 1371075058 695061 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm
< 1371075061 453348 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"typewritery"
< 1371075062 684630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite dvorak home row word is probably 'shithead'
< 1371075063 872377 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a typewriter
< 1371075087 736591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should write a novel using only the home row in dvorak
< 1371075091 292966 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use dvorak?
< 1371075093 796630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371075108 264478 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oulipo for the modern age
< 1371075109 369381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwerty for life
< 1371075115 624010 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok, then you should write a novel using only the home row
< 1371075150 607297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about Galahads
< 1371075159 442868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :proper nouns don't count hth
< 1371075170 349084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because shift isn't on the front row?
< 1371075190 495014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371075192 763175 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my words file gives "unostentatiousness" as the longest dvorak home row word
< 1371075197 167723 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty badass
< 1371075232 975805 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what's the longest word you can write using only four letters?
< 1371075245 579215 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, only four different ones
< 1371075262 634945 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371075267 97772 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, lollipop
< 1371075311 705299 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freefull: Bananas
< 1371075330 463877 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it's not often that a "longest word" of any sort is something i can understand
< 1371075334 334837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :senselessness
< 1371075348 740587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does lambdabot have a word list loaded? that could be fun
< 1371075367 161249 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /usr/share/dict
< 1371075368 769058 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371075374 390795 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: That's shorter than lollipop
< 1371075413 212607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximumBy (comparing length) . filter ((<=4) . length . nub) . lines <$> readFile "/usr/share/dict/words"
< 1371075413 674890 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, lollipop was only an example of a word that only used 4 different letters or less
< 1371075430 84982 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant "unostentatiousness"
< 1371075440 943401 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'beerbibber', 'chachalaca', 'couscousou', 'isoosmosis', 'kerrikerri', 'kotukutuku', 'recercelee', 'rememberer', 'senescence', 'sereneness', 'sleeveless', 'tattletale', 'Wallawalla', 'Mississippi', 'taratantara', 'killeekillee', 'kinnikinnick', 'tangantangan', 'senselessness'
< 1371075449 346894 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like killeekillee
< 1371075460 884875 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ut2k4 name
< 1371075470 640693 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src comparing
< 1371075470 738289 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
< 1371075479 617504 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle comparing
< 1371075479 752506 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Ord comparing :: Ord a => (b -> a) -> b -> b -> Ordering
< 1371075498 291422 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently   senselessness
< 1371075506 479110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say penanggalan but it has 5
< 1371075514 403247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, 6
< 1371075516 886339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1371075577 131687 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, words using 16 different letters: 'superacknowledgment', 'blepharoconjunctivitis', 'pneumoventriculography', 'formaldehydesulphoxylic', 'Pseudolamellibranchiata', 'pseudolamellibranchiate'
< 1371075594 151059 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the maximum)
< 1371075604 956305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those aren't in my list :(
< 1371075608 652287 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks biology
< 1371075610 49450 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, biology. Thiology.
< 1371075624 949816 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's definitely the best script in lambdabot tbh
< 1371075635 336954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mosquito was heard to complain / "a chemist has poisoned my brain!" / the cause of his sorrow / was para-dichloro / diphenyltrichloroethane
< 1371075635 907424 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not even in lambdabot :-)
< 1371075652 711354 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's just that good
< 1371075675 363421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful, elliott might add it
< 1371075687 934881 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371075688 372816 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371075702 155844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a phantom visit
< 1371075702 574982 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371075709 594049 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan......
< 1371075712 684374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good
< 1371075738 917795 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes this limerick is quality
< 1371075744 601282 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(elliott: have you seen my unicode poetry)
< 1371075749 353011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 
< 1371075754 936980 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freefull: sleepless, longer than lollipop :)
< 1371075776 902187 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man the only chemistry rhyme i can remember is the sulfuric acid one
< 1371075789 259932 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im taking that as a no??
< 1371075802 521402 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez where's the limerick
< 1371075806 365356 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: little johnny is no more?
< 1371075810 847278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src (.)
< 1371075810 947255 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f . g) x = f (g x)
< 1371075811 41160 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :NB: In lambdabot,  (.) = fmap
< 1371075811 766209 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.
< 1371075811 860963 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs HEXAGRAM
< 1371075813 901354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice wrong warning
< 1371075817 306455 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: classic y'know
< 1371075825 182349 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: We already determined with a program that  senselessness  fullfills the criteria
< 1371075826 406233 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: snort
< 1371075827 25191 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5018
< 1371075851 482203 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (.)
< 1371075852 90885 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs 2013-06-06.txt:22:13:
< 1371075861 485200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (.)
< 1371075866 211746 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27428
< 1371075876 301570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now @src (.) is wrong? hilarious
< 1371075876 846267 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow!!! fine
< 1371075894 386202 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: whenever I think of that limerick I think of the poor shirt I destroyed with nitric acid
< 1371075897 477459 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, 
< 1371075898 105278 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:13:17:  HEXAGRAM FOR THE CREATIVE HEAVEN
< 1371075898 213609 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:13:17:  MATHEMATICAL BOLD DIGIT SEVEN
< 1371075898 285802 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:13:17:  KANGXI RADICAL WHITE
< 1371075898 285974 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:13:17:  VERTICAL TRAFFIC LIGHT
< 1371075898 286089 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:13:17:  NEGATIVE CIRCLED NUMBER ELEVEN
< 1371075909 800959 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: heh. did you see the mouth pippeting thing
< 1371075918 94158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371075919 222094 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :䷀𝟕⽩🚦⓫
< 1371075930 655286 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
< 1371075931 310607 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c
< 1371075932 357479 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371075937 979791 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mouth pippeting?
< 1371075941 350392 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/bodyhorrors/2013/03/20/mouth_pipetting/
< 1371075941 676903 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: You are awesome
< 1371075945 684454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: really good
< 1371076014 719359 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also wrote a haiku
< 1371076015 841752 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a sonnet
< 1371076051 592056 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/raw/olydVfuzIeXaGKTkVxlJ/ this is the sonnet (ignore the |s they're just character name boundaries)
< 1371076070 253604 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(make sure to read it in iambic pentameter!)
< 1371076086 763677 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: woooow
< 1371076089 427774 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't read anything in iambic pentameter
< 1371076089 538223 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should write a program to do it for you now
< 1371076091 112592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the haiku
< 1371076094 696385 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: senselessnesses for 15 :-P
< 1371076095 91984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb  Does that make me a pro <-- now that makes you willy wonka hth
< 1371076095 190523 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371076100 256342 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeaaaaaah
< 1371076103 86567 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was in the topic for a while
< 1371076104 46828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb *no
< 1371076104 144868 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371076112 872324 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot Moo
< 1371076112 977646 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;)
< 1371076117 12758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: imo you should get these published
< 1371076118 647594 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAHJONG TILE AUTUMN | HIRAGANA LETTER YA | SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW
< 1371076124 979843 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really deep
< 1371076131 942907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great seeing the cadence and rhyme of poetry but not getting any meaning out of it
< 1371076133 856602 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowman without snow
< 1371076141 291244 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the 5-7-5 thing, kireji, season words,
< 1371076154 33085 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haiku of the year
< 1371076160 611714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: no that's yours
< 1371076162 201559 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like the easiest one but it's actually the best + hardest one
< 1371076163 240530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haiku of every year
< 1371076168 295814 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: this came up in a discussion amongst chem grad students about getting carpal tunnel from pippeting, which is... better
< 1371076204 342621 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@
< 1371076209 547661 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i really 'got' poetry until i read a Brown poem out loud. that was a nice feeling
< 1371076244 91230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't see the sonet
< 1371076244 776606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371076272 949386 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the final 6 verses
< 1371076294 324510 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an ascii symbol inside too!
< 1371076338 752268 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone: write a script that converts my sonnet into actual unicode symbols
< 1371076338 824167 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try making a poem out of the names of greek letters
< 1371076348 19044 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"English haiku" is lulz
< 1371076348 992961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow this mouth pippetting thing is horrifying
< 1371076353 840901 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371076366 74828 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks chemistry
< 1371076367 397757 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, chemistry. Themistry.
< 1371076370 652221 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect
< 1371076376 36571 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks mouth pippetting
< 1371076376 953456 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, mouth pippetting. Thouth pippetting.
< 1371076385 996388 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vote: should it th-ify each word
< 1371076390 677174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371076392 788982 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.
< 1371076409 80384 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: have you even watched look around you btw....
< 1371076411 275093 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vote over
< 1371076412 851433 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what yes
< 1371076425 734285 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im offended
< 1371076452 861739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking both series here or just the first one
< 1371076457 441833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the interrogation"
< 1371076466 782795 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think only the first one...?? maybe
< 1371076481 612390 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see
< 1371076502 737562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long-time mouth pipettor back in the day...best (worst) moment was doling out a ton of bacterial broth into tubes using a 25 mL pipette for several minutes and then transfering bacterial cultures using a 1 mL pipette.
< 1371076505 608961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : but would you really stress that "NEED"? it's ridic. <-- i think that was meant to indicate the urgency here, as in "only if you _really_ need it"
< 1371076506 794088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After about a dozen or so sucks on the 25 mL, I wasn't paying enough attention and did a 25-mL suck on the 1 mL pipette...almost inhaled the cotton ball and got a good mouthful of bacterial culture. Salty and a little yeasty.
< 1371076517 216683 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little yeasty
< 1371076525 15355 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but then why isn't REALLY bold
< 1371076551 101638 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i've watched all of season 1 but also vaguely remember watching Computers from season two
< 1371076563 845163 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the one with the video games right?)
< 1371076572 407292 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371076584 313268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: um do you mean "ready"? there is no "really".
< 1371076588 396711 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks thanks
< 1371076589 997490 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, thanks. Thanks.
< 1371076609 622598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm
< 1371076611 29495 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought you were quoting
< 1371076614 109640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1371076629 824478 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've forgotten about this speech bubble hours ago
< 1371076722 426872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's supposed to be a little theatrical, i'm sure.
< 1371076733 208523 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371076744 78622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it even worth it watching the second look around you series
< 1371076757 768077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :these _are_ mad scientists and there minions, after all.
< 1371076762 49926 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.176.143.184 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371076771 903131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and technically they're nobles, too)
< 1371076789 803882 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371076796 843432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course
< 1371076806 175905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is fantastic, not as good as the first though
< 1371076865 734828 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey can you start a letter with "Mrs., Mr"?
< 1371076887 589744 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you have no idea of the name or gender of your correspondent
< 1371076896 188408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about just use their name
< 1371076915 642219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*their
< 1371076927 804325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's so good why can't you get a region 1 (/ no region) dvd
< 1371076930 552203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1371076948 773801 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't know their name elliott 
< 1371076973 283340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... ok
< 1371076976 801387 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in french we'd go with "Madame, Monsieur, "
< 1371077012 565717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :masseur
< 1371077052 845196 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what'd you say about my sister?? *headbut*
< 1371077088 366731 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this french joke...
< 1371077109 999004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :head but what?
< 1371077172 574129 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I know you'd expect me to put some t there
< 1371077183 513699 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not british am I? I only drink coffee
< 1371077265 455042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you should be colombian hth
< 1371077415 918072 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371077634 35946 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix$'h':'t':'h':
< 1371077634 858529 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :1:17:
< 1371077634 936455 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched...
< 1371077639 695353 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix('h':'t':'h':)
< 1371077640 500503 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  The operator `:' [infixr 5] of a section
< 1371077640 572234 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     must have lower precedence th...
< 1371077649 591017 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw
< 1371077687 649600 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I see why that wouldn't work
< 1371077705 616091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it _could_ have worked, haskell just doesn't allow it.
< 1371077777 699408 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> join$"hth"<$[1..]
< 1371077778 567286 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthhthht...
< 1371077790 461759 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords$"hth"<$[1..]
< 1371077791 481653 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth hth ht...
< 1371077816 186020 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371077820 707025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> forever "hth"
< 1371077824 301007 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1371077835 443019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm brain fart
< 1371077918 328092 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t swap
< 1371077918 922136 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a, b) -> (b, a)
< 1371077968 890198 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371077993 923188 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> if x == a then b else if x == b then a else x
< 1371077997 61333 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap (flip if' b . (a ==)) (join (flip if' a . (b ==)))
< 1371077997 154137 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078029 229262 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What?
< 1371078090 226028 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume
< 1371078096 362757 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap (flip if' b . (a ==)) (join (flip if' a . (b ==)))
< 1371078096 438156 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078112 445623 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird
< 1371078151 871139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t lookup
< 1371078152 501731 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eq a => a -> [(a, b)] -> Maybe b
< 1371078173 587007 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let let swapE a b = map (\x -> if x == a then b else if x == b then a else x )
< 1371078173 683388 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: Parse error: EOF
< 1371078188 915632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fromMaybe x . flip lookup [(a,b), (b,a)]
< 1371078189 547521 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr -> Expr
< 1371078251 786465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl x
< 1371078251 875479 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :x
< 1371078275 293707 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> fromMaybe x . flip lookup [(a,b), (b,a)]
< 1371078275 930206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr -> Expr -> Expr
< 1371078280 859859 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \a b x -> fromMaybe x . flip lookup [(a,b), (b,a)]
< 1371078281 571048 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eq a => a -> a -> a -> a -> a
< 1371078283 442620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl ap x (join y)
< 1371078283 542821 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap x (join y)
< 1371078327 994381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a b -> map $ \x -> fromMaybe x . flip lookup [(a,b),(b,a)]
< 1371078331 124002 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :((map $) .) . (flip ((.) . fromMaybe) .) . (flip lookup .) . ap (ap . ((:) .) . (,)) (flip (flip . ((:) .) . flip (,)) [])
< 1371078331 228011 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078342 300238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume
< 1371078348 425446 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :((map $) .) . (flip ((.) . fromMaybe) .) . (flip lookup .) . ap (ap . ((:) .) . (,)) (flip (flip . ((:) .) . flip (,)) [])
< 1371078348 506650 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078357 206816 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a b -> map *\x -> fromMaybe x . flip lookup [(a,b),(b,a)])
< 1371078357 278473 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 59):
< 1371078357 372812 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected ')'
< 1371078357 445210 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting variable, "(", ".", "`", "!!", operator, "*", "/", "`quot`", "`rem`", "`div`", "`mod`", ":%", "%" or end of input
< 1371078362 215206 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a b -> map (\x -> fromMaybe x . flip lookup [(a,b),(b,a)])
< 1371078365 322746 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(map .) . (flip ((.) . fromMaybe) .) . (flip lookup .) . ap (ap . ((:) .) . (,)) (flip (flip . ((:) .) . flip (,)) [])
< 1371078365 417206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078376 261316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is there some bug in @pl's check of whether anything is changing?
< 1371078408 74911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps two rules that cancel each other but keep triggering
< 1371078435 38123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall this one from before:
< 1371078445 230034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl (ap id id) (ap id id)
< 1371078448 351946 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id id (ap id id)
< 1371078448 446243 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078451 912347 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl really is pointless
< 1371078452 84930 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :really is pointless
< 1371078481 581570 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl 
ACTION licks something

< 1371078481 700261 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 1):
< 1371078481 779001 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected "\SOH"
< 1371078481 851124 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting white space, "()", natural, identifier, lambda abstraction or expression
< 1371078482 675152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one actually is reasonable as infinitely triggering.
< 1371078489 651121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it cannot type)
< 1371078535 593404 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \1ACTION licks something\1
< 1371078535 690759 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 25):
< 1371078535 784717 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected "\\"
< 1371078535 856703 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting pattern or "->"
< 1371078540 217762 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl "\1ACTION licks something\1"
< 1371078540 351794 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\SOHACTION licks something\SOH"
< 1371078541 246086 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (ap id id)
< 1371078542 213889 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = a0 -> b0
< 1371078542 291344 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Expected type: (a0 -> b0) -> a0
< 1371078542 362992 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :      Actual type: (a0 -> b0) -> a0 -> b0
< 1371078545 500153 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371078561 683047 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (id <*> id)
< 1371078562 271921 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = a0 -> b0
< 1371078562 364800 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Expected type: (a0 -> b0) -> a0
< 1371078562 436803 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :      Actual type: (a0 -> b0) -> a0 -> b0
< 1371078582 57501 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that exactly the same
< 1371078586 112014 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (ap)
< 1371078586 701880 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => m (a -> b) -> m a -> m b
< 1371078592 178139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371078601 366052 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap is like <*> but monadier
< 1371078622 617883 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<*>)
< 1371078623 754806 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => f (a -> b) -> f a -> f b
< 1371078627 114891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but @pl didn't know about applicatives last i checked
< 1371078642 414852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl (id <*> id) (id <*> id)
< 1371078642 493882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(id <*> id) (id <*> id)
< 1371078716 250123 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
< 1371078717 274344 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join (join id))))))))))))))))))))))))
< 1371078722 450771 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1371078743 912575 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x `x` x x
< 1371078745 402698 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (ap id (join (join id)))))))))))))))))))))) `ap` join id
< 1371078776 478938 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much longer
< 1371078799 39834 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371078806 692139 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> \y -> x*y*x*y*x*y
< 1371078809 822735 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (ap . ((*) .) . ap (flip . ((*) .) . flip (ap . ((*) .) . ap (flip . ((*) .) . (*)) id) id) id) id
< 1371078809 916730 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078818 332171 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks efficient.
< 1371078820 801331 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl-resume
< 1371078826 910046 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (ap . ((*) .) . ap (flip . ((*) .) . flip (ap . ((*) .) . ap (flip . ((*) .) . (*)) id) id) id) id
< 1371078827 5057 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078830 817716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think
< 1371078831 545079 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEAK
< 1371078843 224095 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x y -> x*y*x*y*x*y
< 1371078846 340608 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (ap . ((*) .) . ap (flip . ((*) .) . flip (ap . ((*) .) . ap (flip . ((*) .) . (*)) id) id) id) id
< 1371078846 435050 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078848 838227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pW0fbLrweME/T9hQhjYUINI/AAAAAAAAEGs/CnYKunGnryo/s1600/IMG_5897ac.JPG bizarre fungus
< 1371078852 534040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mushroomexpert.com/ileodictyon_gracile.html
< 1371078868 719344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you know because of Doubles and stuff it cannot assume * is associative hth
< 1371078870 326640 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Far from weirdest fungus
< 1371078873 209719 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooool
< 1371078884 106823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that it would care anyhow)
< 1371078887 466912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ;P
< 1371078908 697175 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x y z f g -> x*y*z*f*g*y
< 1371078911 831845 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (ap . (flip .) . ((flip .) .) . (((flip .) .) .) . (((((*) .) .) .) .) . ((((*) .) .) .) . (((*) .) .) . ((*) .) . (*)) id
< 1371078911 949267 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078927 305955 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x y -> x*y*x*y*x*y*x*y*x*y*x*y*x*y
< 1371078932 110300 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :join . ((*) .) . join (flip . ((*) .) . flip ap id . ((*) .) . join (flip . ((*) .) . flip ap id . ((*) .) . join (flip . ((*) .) . flip ap id . ((*) .) . join (flip . ((*) .) . flip ap id . ((*) .)
< 1371078933 750158 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :. join (flip . ((*) .) . flip ap id . ((*) .) . join (flip . ((*) .) . (*)))))))
< 1371078933 821929 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371078941 30615 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably far from best
< 1371078948 465751 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did get lambdabot to split it across two lines
< 1371079062 206408 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION installs lambdabot locally

< 1371079143 504868 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there some simple way to use @pl by itself
< 1371079167 986015 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be?
< 1371079191 365546 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, last time i asked how @pl worked i was answered with "It uses Haskell"
< 1371079193 927877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (curry$(!!13).scanl1(*).cycle.sequence[fst,snd])x y
< 1371079195 509147 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  x * y * x * y * x * y * x * y * x * y * x * y * x * y
< 1371079270 504122 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371079527 542286 :nooodl^!~nooodl^@91.176.143.184 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371079674 483010 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ([1..] !!) [1..]
< 1371079675 564030 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,2...
< 1371079740 209383 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371079786 810176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Was told to relax a bit <-- have you started worrying your coworkers?
< 1371079788 264362 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> 3 x
< 1371079788 377299 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :3
< 1371079801 505249 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not that I know of, I hope
< 1371079815 803360 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can strike fear into one of our vendors though, I would be happy
< 1371079830 950449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall you mentioned something about "workaholic"
< 1371079856 295358 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often think about work when I'm at home... then again, I sometimes think about not-work at work
< 1371079864 700701 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those times I usually feel a bit guilty
< 1371079872 458845 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl 3 3
< 1371079872 556111 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 3
< 1371079878 366943 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> \x -> x x
< 1371079878 463449 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :const (join id)
< 1371079900 939408 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> x^x^x^x^x^x^x
< 1371079901 41015 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap (^) (ap (^) (ap (^) (ap (^) (ap (^) (join (^))))))
< 1371079913 688996 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x y -> x^y^x^y^x^y^x
< 1371079916 806629 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :liftM2 (.) (^) (ap (^) . liftM2 (.) (^) (ap (^) . ap ((.) . (^)) (flip (^))))
< 1371079916 900557 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371079921 13616 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh
< 1371079929 55569 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what is that
< 1371079931 179251 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^)
< 1371079931 875315 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral b, Num a) => a -> b -> a
< 1371079933 889075 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiplication was best so far
< 1371079939 35802 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (**)
< 1371079939 667238 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a -> a
< 1371079947 740178 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is hard.............
< 1371079948 549043 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^^)
< 1371079949 526429 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fractional a, Integral b) => a -> b -> a
< 1371079986 94865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ap (*) (ap (*) (ap (*) (join (*)))) x
< 1371079987 3180 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  x * (x * (x * (x * x)))
< 1371079988 843095 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Sure, there are three exponentiation operators
< 1371079989 810617 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, reviews said the bass was too quiet on these... the bass is much more pronounced than I'm used to
< 1371080005 458395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can usually either just use ^ or **
< 1371080010 87301 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1371080026 303259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's all those monads, am i rite
< 1371080030 980668 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Some people think bass is about amplitude.
< 1371080090 320220 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (3 ^ 481891) `mod` 17
< 1371080091 257636 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  10
< 1371080094 374836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ is for the rare case when you are raising something that can be divided but isn't floating-point to a possibly negative integral type
< 1371080095 251899 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371080129 830774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> x ^^ (-3)
< 1371080130 866570 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  recip (x * x * x)
< 1371080190 166560 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm wondering, is the modular exponentiation thing optimized well
< 1371080199 386935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all afaik
< 1371080203 117476 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (4 :: Int) ^^ (-2 :: Int)
< 1371080204 12411 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  No instance for (GHC.Real.Fractional GHC.Types.Int)
< 1371080204 84851 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   arising from a use o...
< 1371080238 463479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh if you define a modular type ^ will work on it efficiently automatically
< 1371080271 42890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, relatively efficient, it won't make use of cycles in the exponent as that would require euler phi-function stuff
< 1371080332 286138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and factorizing the modulus, i think
< 1371080341 601940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG
< 1371080343 777236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY INTERNET FIXED ITSELF
< 1371080346 468624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD BLESS GOD BLESS GOD BLESS
< 1371080363 625741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet, ruining elliott's atheism since 2013
< 1371080364 34291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371080364 766657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had all but given up hope
< 1371080371 68434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my internet went down
< 1371080372 164761 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like
< 1371080373 500407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :half an hour
< 1371080387 87286 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horror
< 1371080399 800053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is seriously worrying that this actually makes me depressed and panicky
< 1371080401 129247 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well
< 1371080404 945088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's back now so i don't have to think about that
< 1371080417 739910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :millenials, am i right
< 1371080426 899307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with their facebooks and their instagrams
< 1371080460 887439 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish internet was considered as important as a utility as, e.g. electricity
< 1371080469 956830 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :municipal internet is a thing
< 1371080472 753432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of expected reliability of access etc.
< 1371080481 875518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah but it isn't really any better is it
< 1371080506 41530 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371080517 719289 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just mean, people do think like you're saying
< 1371080526 129718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo i want results
< 1371080527 467307 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it's as far as electricity yet in terms of reliability
< 1371080541 857484 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course electricity isn't that reliable anywhere either check your privilege etc etc)
< 1371080547 144153 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everywhere*
< 1371080558 543684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i obviously only care about mysel
< 1371080559 17529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f
< 1371080560 410905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever
< 1371080566 653463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey what channel name should i use to test lambdabot note it has to not end in "bot"
< 1371080578 591109 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tobadbmal
< 1371080613 578724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, spooky
< 1371080634 504983 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371080634 700975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is this bmal and what is this hidden lambdabot they were involved in
< 1371080644 749179 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
< 1371080646 675942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lambdabot tragedy
< 1371080648 449780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#tobun it is
< 1371080652 408669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :join for fun lambdabot testing time's
< 1371080779 986378 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#bots does not end in bot
< 1371080853 333505 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello Sgeo_, Attempting to change the rules in someone else's environment is a game that cannot be won."
< 1371080866 31052 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got greeted by that in #bots
< 1371080884 842550 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of the Risho-Agoran war... a little
< 1371080889 630436 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually ever see it myself
< 1371080906 440285 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/a529c4c5aa22f00c361b6a591c5a3467/tumblr_moapkcYyQV1rsbiwyo1_400.jpg esoteric animes
< 1371081026 416741 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371081027 349079 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371081268 421543 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :SgeoBot
< 1371081310 450803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was ever so slightly responsible for the risho-agoran war, i recall.
< 1371081399 727008 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good work.
< 1371081413 69914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: cool
< 1371081922 183723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : anyway apparently there are crypto startups i didn't know this <-- presumably they're good at hiding?
< 1371081949 926155 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep
< 1371082276 927968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool
< 1371082280 166966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: example?
< 1371082290 890567 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what
< 1371082295 421036 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crypto startups/
< 1371082421 176233 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://crypto.cat/
< 1371082506 811147 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :came up in http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/12/4422480/is-prism-good-news-for-cryptographers
< 1371082584 925012 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371082783 179068 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1371082852 179831 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list
< 1371082853 964117 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Sgeo SgeoBot SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb
< 1371082855 250471 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371082857 264744 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist
< 1371082858 898491 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1371082859 686882 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposedly.
< 1371082881 576535 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, the notifier I made in another room went off...
< 1371082881 850169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, how did I end up in the `list?
< 1371082892 616205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I mind, but I'm pretty sure I didn't trigger it intentionally
< 1371082895 509440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list
< 1371082896 749693 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ grep '^..:..:..: <[^>]*> `list' /var/irclogs/_esoteric/201[3-9]-??-??.txt | sed 's/^.*.*//;s/_*$//' | sort -u | tr '\n' ' '
< 1371082902 655874 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs ais523.*`list
< 1371082904 259768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, it's historical
< 1371082917 773121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I triggered an early in-testing version of the `list
< 1371082918 925363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17695
< 1371082935 392386 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proto-list
< 1371082943 733196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens in `list, stays in `list
< 1371082970 152492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, now SgeoBot has triggered the `list, it will be there eternally
< 1371082980 253180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I liked the old race condition version
< 1371082986 729372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was harder to figure out, and trollier
< 1371082986 965254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo is a bot now?
< 1371082998 74994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't we all
< 1371083010 396505 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371083013 863667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new version fits in better with the idea behind it, at least
< 1371083042 35962 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : the latest pages hasn't been updated yet. just the most recent page, with an arrow
< 1371083049 63242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i bought _The Power Broker_
< 1371083049 706895 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes, Bike uncovered me in #bike
< 1371083055 296726 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey what's the way to get the file size of a directory recursively on linux
< 1371083063 49142 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can never remember it and whether it involves du
< 1371083071 256716 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the file size of a directory mean?
< 1371083072 61160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be some time before i start/finish reading it, though
< 1371083074 104821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's du with a couple of options
< 1371083076 142762 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to last page, click link from there
< 1371083081 183520 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For Homestuck update
< 1371083096 737127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually do du -hs dirname
< 1371083100 414051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :du -bcs dirname
< 1371083105 434383 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works
< 1371083125 290952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also might want -l if you want to count each copy of a hard link, rather than the single file that's linked
< 1371083133 109936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which depends on what you're trying to do
< 1371083140 16093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's spelled du -sh you unpatriotic scum of the earth
< 1371083148 291423 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1371083148 797856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you write rm -fr too
< 1371083149 396431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you use -h rather than -b, then it counts the disk space used
< 1371083152 19525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the size of all the files in it
< 1371083152 275430 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-sh is not even in alphabetical order.
< 1371083165 81275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so very small files will be counted as more than the number of bytes in them
< 1371083168 839415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not what Bike asked for
< 1371083230 370727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* kmc hands out cyanide pills <-- and this is how humanity will finally evolve the ability not to click ominous links hth
< 1371083269 506651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and use a browser that can't be XSSed attacked through plain text files?
< 1371083329 108739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's going a bit far.
< 1371083353 246156 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I wasn't expecting an update
< 1371083355 166391 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you SgeoBot 
< 1371083376 716376 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it has technically been months
< 1371083463 46939 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :years
< 1371083465 610886 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :over .001 years!!
< 1371083484 796110 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more importantly there are jerkcityhd posts http://24.media.tumblr.com/aef6f8b854fb820eb634748be7289463/tumblr_mo57efs8CY1snfhwio1_1280.png
< 1371083490 85411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving to SF feels vaguely self-destructive given how annoyed I am by web/mobile app startup culture
< 1371083496 326234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't really escape it by being physically far away, either
< 1371083502 299389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i might as well be where my friends are
< 1371083543 674211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1371083551 856216 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at it this way: there's good weed
< 1371083589 320362 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://jerkcityhd.tumblr.com/image/51435557806 and good dicks
< 1371083619 241126 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371083622 217410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371083627 452112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get a shower curtain that looks like macsbug
< 1371083642 996614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :caliborn's narration is amazing
< 1371083667 977130 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it truly is
< 1371083689 417794 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"DID SHE DRAW HERSELF?? I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S POSSIBLE. CONSIDERING SHE IS FICTIONAL. AS WELL AS A GIRL."
< 1371083698 652118 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boogle vacantly
< 1371083705 564699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IT TURNS OUT THE MALE CAN LEAVE AFTER ALL. RELATIVELY UNHINDERED. BASICALLY CONTRADICTING THE ENTIRE PREMISE OF THE STORY." is the best
< 1371083723 664452 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering about the typo route/root but i guess it was intentional or at least fits
< 1371083727 730920 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boogle down
< 1371083806 764588 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that one's pretty good
< 1371085140 55074 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there we go, feed updated
< 1371085151 382858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i was going to ask if you heard about the private silly valley buses
< 1371085157 791167 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think i heard about them from your twitter SO
< 1371085165 651165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it silly valley, i think it was
< 1371085240 104471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: spigot is "super kawaii" in that first one, as they say
< 1371085257 489943 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is what they say
< 1371085285 677960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Know the People
< 1371085634 427624 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you try to ==> out of the flash early?
< 1371085636 81742 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should
< 1371085887 105328 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PART :#esoteric
< 1371086293 159088 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371087709 803419 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's pretty good
< 1371088827 591524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which? the company shuttles run by Google etc, or the private subscription bus lines in SF?
< 1371088850 556666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo there's nothing wrong with the rich paying for luxury public transit, if the basic govt public transit is adequate
< 1371088853 950263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't really
< 1371088864 509825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the city is too incompetent to e.g. tax the luxury services and fund the public ones
< 1371088867 105672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i meant the company ones yeah
< 1371088891 348562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :america desperately needs health care reform to reduce the amount of useless snail mail i receive
< 1371089237 281935 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371089302 354191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ++++++++[->++++++++<]>.
< 1371089302 633109 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  @
< 1371089411 821850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ,[.,]!Does this work?
< 1371089411 945381 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done.
< 1371089425 939768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'parently not.
< 1371089733 143050 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf ,[.,]!++++++++++.
< 1371089733 243965 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done.
< 1371089975 903294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw am planning to do god's work re: haskell FAQ
< 1371090060 719615 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quotes of the Week
< 1371090060 791618 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: getLine :: IO String contains a String in the same way /bin/ls contains a list of files."
< 1371090069 561677 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not a quote that first occurred within the past week
< 1371090225 839301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good (what though)
< 1371090242 538171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :strings /bin/ls | grep ^/
< 1371090397 182710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, you know @faq...
< 1371090415 413978 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@faq
< 1371090415 538921 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that.
< 1371090420 109772 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol great
< 1371090437 750956 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf input!,[.,]
< 1371090437 863521 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done.
< 1371090438 81081 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@faq Can Haskell fix @faq without outside intervention?
< 1371090438 212160 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that.
< 1371090457 589145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://sprunge.us/WUOh
< 1371090471 922167 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god.
< 1371090478 729987 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they serious?
< 1371090485 939471 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some of those obviously aren't
< 1371090497 496347 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is terrible
< 1371090523 649255 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"can I use HASKELL to solve problem from ARTIFICAL INTELIGENCE, like DEPTH TREE SEARCH ,or A*, its hardest than same algorithn in C++ with C++ Standart Library data structures, like FIFO/LIFO/LISTs etc. ?" snort
< 1371090537 373550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well you see the thing is someone asks a question in #haskell
< 1371090546 432325 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know how it goes
< 1371090546 771235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then no matter what it is if it involves asking whether you can do something, potentially in haskell
< 1371090551 262768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put @faq in front of it
< 1371090555 781116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're a master of comedy
< 1371090557 446482 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so it's
< 1371090559 223340 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "meme"
< 1371090564 5572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1371090577 166445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was originally because people would ask things like "can haskell do [incredibly basic thing that any real language can do]"
< 1371090584 700628 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm sure
< 1371090588 812448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it's just... kind of annoying
< 1371090588 883961 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"does haskell have i/o"
< 1371090590 752164 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume you're going to have @faq link to kmc's first epistle to the nerds
< 1371090593 69990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371090597 898878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the idea
< 1371090612 156080 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably you'll get called a nazi for killing the joke or whatever
< 1371090612 916511 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now people will try to mock questions and inadvertantly link something that might even answer them!!!
< 1371090615 926549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371090621 401540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love ruining things, goddamn
< 1371090640 502542 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this epistle?
< 1371090646 504245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@where faq
< 1371090646 636471 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/FAQ
< 1371090742 33299 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. From what you called it, I thought it was going to be some ... thingy
< 1371090751 253195 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thingy?
< 1371090759 71506 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"epistle" is just oldspeak for "letter".
< 1371090816 170443 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some generic thoughts on geekiness or somethign
< 1371090850 611187 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kmc's First Testament
< 1371090980 817534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ever shred so much stuff that the shredder overheats?
< 1371090986 555719 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371090996 691778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have, hth
< 1371090999 759861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just now)
< 1371091000 984024 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371091002 215311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but also before)
< 1371091002 983320 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you die
< 1371091004 910265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371091007 314785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still alive
< 1371091007 386787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip kmc
< 1371091011 73250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1371091012 325082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll come to your funeral
< 1371091030 881219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we will bury you" -- shachaf
< 1371091099 89228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we will bury them" -- soviet rhino heavy tank in red alert 2, being ordered to attack
< 1371091131 115772 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a tank y/n
< 1371091156 924315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey remember red alert 2
< 1371091163 794499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a good computer game
< 1371091202 910488 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was
< 1371091206 942453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./win goto 39
< 1371091208 560274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371091236 607516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know you can just say /win 39
< 1371091237 551600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371091245 59219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371091246 103161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I forget
< 1371091257 387678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can press alt then press the 39 key
< 1371091261 304428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf.win++
< 1371091268 757310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: huh
< 1371091278 722032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was telling elliott about an irssi feature...
< 1371091287 105389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh elliott.win++
< 1371091295 734455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf.win--
< 1371091307 649333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the MIT UAV club flew their UAV into the river...
< 1371091312 223288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Controlled Flight Into Terrain
< 1371091330 174444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncontrollable air vehicle
< 1371091368 735816 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the phrase "controlled flight into terrain"
< 1371091388 887693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERRAAAAAIN
< 1371091406 201589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :works better in #cslounge-trains
< 1371091415 538338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like trains you should join that channel hth
< 1371091489 190938 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://souleyedigitalmusic.bandcamp.com/album/ppppppowerup
< 1371091502 208609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the soundtrack to VVVVVV
< 1371091503 860639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good
< 1371091512 626869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess, drums
< 1371091512 711519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game as well
< 1371091523 358781 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371091529 643969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as such, but possibly an 8bit synth approximation thereof
< 1371091532 810438 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game got a bit memorizey
< 1371091538 352080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game is about dying isn't it
< 1371091540 226582 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, no, it's remixed versions of the soundtrack to VVVVVV
< 1371091542 286931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly
< 1371091544 115631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoBot: oh
< 1371091568 680631 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the actual soundtrack is awesome too
< 1371091592 833314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i go to the "they might be giants performance" on friday in sf
< 1371091668 594380 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you should probably go listen to PPPPPP first
< 1371091735 799098 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love soundtracks.
< 1371091771 190490 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Original Soundtracks 1 is the best soundtrack hth
< 1371091859 868855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i was just thinking about that album the other day wtf (i haven't even heard it)
< 1371091903 148299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i think i have that sound track as part of humble blah blah don't i
< 1371091954 925998 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know VVVVVV itself was in a Humble Bundle
< 1371092008 420048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :third
< 1371092028 343519 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you seen Ghost in the Shell
< 1371092030 691688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't recall memorization in that game
< 1371092041 184139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was mostly precise timing for jumps
< 1371092051 399180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nope
< 1371092056 112043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i normally hate jumping puzzles but VVVVVV did a really good job eliminating the delay before you can try again
< 1371092069 838692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: braid did the best job of that
< 1371092078 306636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really what I hate, 30 seconds of tedious walking around until you can get to the jump and fail again
< 1371092078 378640 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing a bit of a let's play linked on youtube where someone spent like 30+ minutes on one 10 second segment
< 1371092081 293326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: true
< 1371092086 426134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :braid is a good game also
< 1371092091 80210 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :braid <3
< 1371092098 61206 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the joke is, i know exactly which segment
< 1371092101 854770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo seeing the braid mechanic not as a central puzzle mechanic but just a convenient continuous undo thing would be nice
< 1371092103 120645 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it got pretty rote for me
< 1371092104 252065 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "doing things the hard way"?
< 1371092109 42714 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yep
< 1371092111 885538 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: prince of persia
< 1371092118 63637 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorta
< 1371092127 194656 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget if i ever actually got that one
< 1371092133 359432 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about veni vedi veci... oh same thing I guess
< 1371092143 78512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I've only played one Prince of Persia game. It was a long time ago. It didn't have that.
< 1371092152 213335 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I hear there's more than one game so maybe others do.
< 1371092154 409440 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in prince of persia when you fell or something it let you rewind I think?
< 1371092158 763020 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that was one of the things it did
< 1371092163 583081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how i have 2834923984234 humble bundles
< 1371092165 991086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have played like 3 of the games
< 1371092174 117202 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspicuous consumption hth
< 1371092200 728379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i played looked a lot like http://toucharcade.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/130503.jpeg
< 1371092207 201640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx google images
< 1371092210 216603 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh
< 1371092213 430683 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking Sands of Time
< 1371092224 524275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was on a cd of 100 shareware games
< 1371092228 105325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i had was the demo
< 1371092241 101718 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should play a Prince of Persia game tha'ts less bad.
< 1371092241 209247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i sure loved that cd
< 1371092248 200705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had all these games!!
< 1371092257 108638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like jill of the jungle. who remembers jill of the jungle. i do
< 1371092258 207024 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway the point is, listen to "One Minute Warning"
< 1371092285 669488 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the braid guy's essays more than his games.
< 1371092288 937110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'll need a one minute warning first 8) :D : D :D: D :LD:L:LD: L:D :K <3k0 i3-0 it0-hroph;lg ,bv.
< 1371092292 162720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zjksdxzlsekhfa5w87veyisudgkxclx\'
< 1371092293 513583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : c]|Z:"Z?[
< 1371092296 184638 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has he done anything since braid?
< 1371092315 783247 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know he was planning something
< 1371092320 658135 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who knows with these artsy types
< 1371092323 138403 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know he's doing a next-gen console thing on PS4
< 1371092337 642479 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i mostly liked braid for the art because i like the artist
< 1371092339 97835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoBot: this was nice until the drum-alikes started :'(
< 1371092351 500907 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witness_(2013_video_game)
< 1371092353 467977 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm just too fly-like to do puzzley games
< 1371092371 212501 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, PPPPPP or the remix?
< 1371092372 313172 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :braid was definitely one of those games where like, I could beat my head for 30 minutes on a puzzle
< 1371092376 123159 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then look up the answer on youtubue
< 1371092378 457366 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I cannot vouch for the quality of the remixes
< 1371092380 473051 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in retrospect wow that was so obvious
< 1371092381 225717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013 more like 20never
< 1371092384 534166 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for the quality of PPPPPP
< 1371092384 732649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait 2013 isn't over yet
< 1371092387 628037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mixed it up with 2012
< 1371092416 562289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoBot: I listened to whatever you linked in here.
< 1371092420 826027 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Blow says he started to "check out" from his parents as early as elementary school. His mother was an ex-nun who constantly reminded her son about the imminent coming of Jesus and would later disown Blow's older sister for coming out as a lesbian in the mid-80s. Blow's father worked all day as a defense contractor and would come home to be alone in his den, where children were not allowed.» wow
< 1371092421 44628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://souleyedigitalmusic.bandcamp.com/album/ppppppowerup
< 1371092452 520168 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, ok then. This is the original: http://souleyedigitalmusic.bandcamp.com/album/pppppp-the-vvvvvv-soundtrack
< 1371092476 396844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nice
< 1371092481 849829 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :game developers.
< 1371092500 175422 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even know "ex-nun" was a thing you could be
< 1371092501 886250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoBot: Still has drumalikes. :-(
< 1371092516 227051 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did http://www.win.tue.nl/cs/fm/engels/frc/index.html just stop existing all of a sudden :(
< 1371092526 889130 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, there's an archive
< 1371092535 743487 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that about engels
< 1371092540 705002 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tada: http://sir-toby.com/nomic-archives/frc/
< 1371092548 56939 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you mister bot
< 1371092560 337854 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit it's some nerd shit isn't it
< 1371092564 983506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this is good i should listen to the album (i make a point of hating U2 so this is not easy to admit)
< 1371092585 73546 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it branched off a game of nomic
< 1371092614 585489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoBot: i had to turn it off because it felt like it was beating my brain in until i would die
< 1371092614 923487 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's ok i hate them too. Eno also worked on it though and I don't hate him.
< 1371092635 186046 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good rationalization, imo
< 1371092676 856314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eno also worked with coldplay
< 1371092679 414537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"im just sayin"
< 1371092697 771229 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda like coldplay "sorry"
< 1371092718 964883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what coldplay is "sorry"
< 1371092727 37845 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a band with drums
< 1371092732 284238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it
< 1371092744 310559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not paranoia when they're really out to get you hth
< 1371092744 782618 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just said you didn't!
< 1371092754 859293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw prior warning the they might be giants performance will involve drums hth
< 1371092766 366027 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, are you the master?
< 1371092771 815723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sometimes they don't......sometimes they do i don't know
< 1371092780 955524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sister is going today in seattle
< 1371094122 136035 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371094147 181855 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371094916 575894 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PART :#esoteric
< 1371097231 682434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shredding done, now using the shredder as a footrest
< 1371097295 119431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coldplay is mediocre but for the most part not actively offensive
< 1371097303 523148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you shred
< 1371097306 645040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :papers
< 1371097314 352011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371097319 142232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good shredding material
< 1371097321 209611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get your feet in the shredder hth
< 1371097332 771729 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Al-Yafi was a well-known and prolific contributor to top-tier Al-Qaida forums with over 30,000 postings."
< 1371097337 63269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I mediocre jelly
< 1371097350 246775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the start-up sound of the OLPC XO-1 is the first four notes of "Beautiful Day" by U2
< 1371097353 92153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH7GOupMDrU
< 1371097367 849997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to tell with the internal speaker because it picks out weird harmonics
< 1371097376 740335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's super obvious if you plug in headphones
< 1371097419 835523 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone just offered to pay my admission fee to the upcoming Rebol conference if I came
< 1371097436 531139 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to fly
< 1371097445 429202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foot status: unshredded
< 1371097445 511967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> hi (hi 5 (+) 3) (*) (hi 4 (+) 4) -- infix without infix!
< 1371097448 984588 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  64
< 1371097466 865815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let hi x f y = f x y -- ?
< 1371097468 299318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not evry infix
< 1371097470 250423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*very
< 1371097471 52880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi = flip flip
< 1371097475 456729 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it's in a different country...
< 1371097475 738266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even get the associativityi ejrirtproperty
< 1371097477 216142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t flip flip
< 1371097477 846390 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :b -> (a -> b -> c) -> a -> c
< 1371097480 940529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So yes.)
< 1371097481 433581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, yes.
< 1371097482 698489 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a good country
< 1371097484 553621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :efb
< 1371097491 690171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop pop
< 1371097495 846751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm going to need a twitter account for your foot status asap plz thx hth
< 1371097498 623704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you have a stroke
< 1371097499 219744 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop pop watching motherfuckers drop
< 1371097507 151484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @miuaf_foot_ebooks
< 1371097519 793336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes
< 1371097529 946908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm just not built for this world and its complete sentences
< 1371097530 47451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: might want to get that cehcked out
< 1371097536 552542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get some of that NHS
< 1371097544 770959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would follow
< 1371097551 86793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :+5, Troll
< 1371097560 304713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :still waiting for zzo38_ebooks
< 1371097586 479353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :main is usually a foot
< 1371097601 236992 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you all need to help me out here
< 1371097614 464291 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to understand the sentence: "Al-Jaza'iri was a jihadi web forum users who was well known and well-respected in the online extremist community."
< 1371097622 820706 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a jihadist forum like. give me ideas
< 1371097632 773100 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can one be respected on an internet it doesn't make sense
< 1371097644 642112 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I respect you
< 1371097646 182308 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're respected
< 1371097657 495942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergo Bike is a jihadist
< 1371097663 645115 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371097684 325267 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna have to come to terms with that Bike
< 1371097694 886167 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :death to the west?
< 1371097698 85733 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371097698 631816 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i'll have to grow a beard
< 1371097701 226129 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gonna suck
< 1371097703 75690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm amused because obviously the jihadi web forums will have the same stupid web forum drama as every other web forum
< 1371097709 115073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm just amused thinking about this
< 1371097714 156284 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're friends with a woman, I don't think they allow that
< 1371097736 437310 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true, a lot of them are engineering students.
< 1371097753 645924 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc:  "itt: infidels defending their terrible alcohol decisions"
< 1371097757 193710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you engineer a student
< 1371097763 273470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: arguments over how large the burning america flag image signatures should be allowed to be
< 1371097773 778256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure this is exactly what jihadi web forums must be like
< 1371097775 824445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
< 1371097791 472500 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got back from the tunisian revolt AmA #yolo
< 1371097838 814076 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually yeah now that you mention it none of the listed dead are women
< 1371097843 746490 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :al-nusra needs to get its act together imo
< 1371097852 708954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jihadi forum where they have some nutter going on about how 9/11 was an inside job but the angle is mostly that it's really disappointing that al qaida couldn't pull it off themselves
< 1371097873 564813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm definitely 100% terrorism expert, trust me
< 1371097890 827694 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people who wrote this report i'm reading presumably read these forums regularly
< 1371097893 899599 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i can like, ask
< 1371097899 419841 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jihadist 4chan report please"
< 1371097985 323524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo Bike why am i not asleep yet; checkmate
< 1371098004 394753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2013/06/upcoming-revelations-speculations.html am i allowed to be annoyed at an article for being baseless speculation when it has 'speculation' in the title
< 1371098021 756545 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're a fucking heathen hth
< 1371098036 953152 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha this is bad
< 1371098134 408340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft bought Skype for $8 billion dollars. It doesn't seem to make sense. Now that we see Skype and Microsoft prominently mentioned in the PRISM documents, we may find out that this entire thing was a plot by the NSA.
< 1371098159 917613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nsa made microsoft buy skype" best conspiracy theory
< 1371098196 509169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four billion wordwide population - all living - have a Computer God Containment Policy Brain Bank Brain, a real brain, in the Brain Bank Cities on the far side of the moon we never see.
< 1371098219 214846 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
< 1371098221 371838 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jihadology.net/2010/10/20/an%E1%B9%A3ar-al-mujahidin-arabic-forum-adds-a-section-for-women/ this is going well.
< 1371098225 430037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, I have not yet received an NSL (National Security Letter). Crypto guy Matt Blaze irregularly points this out on twitter as a neat trick. An NSL forbids a person from disclosing that they received the NSL. Thus, while you can't confirm you've received one, you can simply stop posting that you haven't.
< 1371098230 948302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i don't fucking believe this works
< 1371098250 162759 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because only nerds would do that, for one
< 1371098250 873106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rsync.net do it too, post a "we haven't had to blah blah blah" thing regularly
< 1371098273 680366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any chance whatsoever that ceasing to publish such notices wouldn't be considered an admission that it happened in court
< 1371098287 699209 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jihadology.net/2010/10/26/arabic-language-forum-ash-shamukh-al-islamiyyah-announced-the-creation-of-the-shamukh-college-of-islamic-sciences/ Any student that does not attend a lecture three times or more without having permission from the college will be terminated from the program.
< 1371098303 593123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a good way to get a free one way flight to eastern europe
< 1371098315 484651 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moreover, al-Falluja administrators urged members and visitors on the forums “to take caution and wariness in corresponding via private messages…[and] to use Asrar al-Mujahideen [the Mujahideen Secrets] software and to not avoid this matter.” The aforementioned software, developed by al-Ekhlaas Forum, is a coded-software that enables forum members to communicate directly with Al-Qaida’s offshoot in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).
< 1371098348 708459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/audio/Gangster%20Computer%20God%20Worldwide%20Secret%20Containment%20Policy.mp3
< 1371098369 408376 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nerds are the saddest lawyers.
< 1371098381 222005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my weakness: filenames like that
< 1371098390 461640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is this that guy
< 1371098396 324866 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1371098466 236644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is relaxing
< 1371098470 954552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel reassured
< 1371098476 339753 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/it-sure-has-been-a-while-since-the-tonight-show-di,31267/
< 1371098480 535288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: holy fuck
< 1371098483 439373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that erratasec blog
< 1371098484 304663 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371098485 332623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are asking if Edward Snowden (the NSA leaker) is libertarian. My answer is "probably".
< 1371098488 527810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We libertarians have a sort of "gaydar", we can spot fellow libertarians even when they say things that are completely neutral and non-political. Back in the day, I was in the "libertarian-closet", and tried to hide my wacky feelings for limited government. I tried to talk and act like everyone else. However, other libertarians could tell my true self. I never understood how that was possible.
< 1371098494 446604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I've gotten older, I've discovered that I've got libradar, too, and can often recognize my fellow wackos. I can't say consciously what makes me feel that Snowden is libertarian, but I get that vibe from him.
< 1371098498 524497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pppdsfdpogshjfgkdk.fdg;'lsfk
< 1371098505 255183 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well he probably is actually a libertarian
< 1371098507 408261 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but: that's great
< 1371098519 433329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We libertarians have a sort of "gaydar"
< 1371098585 389091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders libertarianism

< 1371098615 84334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc more like kmponder
< 1371098637 507542 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hayek is kind of interesting, libertarian-wise
< 1371098640 392491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't i hear more libertarians trying to loudly differentiate themselves from the privilege-denying fuckwit contingent
< 1371098651 780273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because i don't listen to anyone who identifies as a libertarian
< 1371098653 351093 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a book by a market socialist whose thesis advisor was Hayek
< 1371098661 991679 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel that this may have been sort of awkward?
< 1371098696 758139 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well among the obvious answers, how about that they actually believe that 2-axis politics crap
< 1371098705 532404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you believe in limited government but you also donate 50% of your income to help the less fortunate, that might be respectable?
< 1371098716 858140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like current governments do a great job of helping poor people
< 1371098737 689486 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i work in a private enterprise that feeds poor people
< 1371098739 84137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :synergising recent topics of: NSA, they might be giants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z32-eLOoAUU
< 1371098741 927314 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the help ron paul??
< 1371098746 522672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1371098763 646721 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw because i'm still thinking about it they're gonna cut billions from SNAP and aaaaah)
< 1371098774 572669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1371098790 433271 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Left & Right is the old tried & effective tactic of " Hegalian Dialectic. " either one you chose-the government wins. btw- in ancient greek or hebrew, Government means mind control. governing the mind,when you study Truth Etymology. you may wish to Check out max Igan's website TheCrowHosue,his podcasts on yt are under ThecrowHouse as well, if your interested in solutions- he lists MANY. & shares the hidden information that is ...
< 1371098796 511936 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... going on -that the powers that be,hide from the masses.
< 1371098805 591324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. well written & persuasive
< 1371098806 901239 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i forgot to note the other bonus of clicking that link in that the comments are now predictably nuts
< 1371098839 46600 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thenation.com/blog/174753/sword-drops-food-stamps, specifically
< 1371098841 476285 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not excite
< 1371098843 562110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truth Etymology
< 1371098861 302173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that some sovereign citizen shit
< 1371098868 327485 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:44:56  kmc: well among the obvious answers, how about that they actually believe that 2-axis politics crap
< 1371098871 926470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:46:30  elliott: Left & Right is the old tried & effective tactic of " Hegalian Dialectic. "
< 1371098877 298971 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: consistency
< 1371098913 458267 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you said you were asleep and now you're not asleep!!
< 1371098928 42405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did i say i was asleep
< 1371098933 95214 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway this is especially annoying because SNAP is one of the least wasteful government programs that exist they have graphs for this
< 1371098936 674837 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i dunno like a week ago
< 1371098985 74715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUANTUM-LANGUAGE-PARSE-SYNTAX-GRAMMAR
< 1371098990 612491 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lastlog's elliott.*sleep, discovers just how often you fucking ask

< 1371098993 484169 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a lot)
< 1371099004 176951 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:37 < elliott> i am going to sleep
< 1371099014 199522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long is your fuckin lastlog
< 1371099030 759400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: should i sleep
< 1371099031 795502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can set it to be that long
< 1371099045 127254 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:18 < elliott> i sleep now. i can only pray gregor's voice survives the brutal night
< 1371099064 616734 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was in april. that's barely two months ago!!
< 1371099085 444133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does your lastlog go back to fucking april
< 1371099089 124121 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:33 < elliott> um i dont sleep Bike you have a history of lack of history
< 1371099099 762556 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was march btw
< 1371099108 123268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on what do i have to fix in my irssi
< 1371099159 949738 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1371099161 672504 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep
< 1371099200 97031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even 6 yet
< 1371099217 309964 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even my dick yet
< 1371099255 236145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly, dicks
< 1371099275 578091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will it be your dick Bike
< 1371099287 788261 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never. i've taken a vow.
< 1371099297 935327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1371099421 503324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really annoying how early it gets light
< 1371099434 969658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer it to the early darkness in the winter
< 1371099442 620010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should get black-out shades
< 1371099459 497536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: agree re: early darkness
< 1371099460 521491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college I slept under my desk in a kind of sleeping pod / coffin with thick curtains and wood walls
< 1371099470 480664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was good if my roomates were playing loud music or having sex etc
< 1371099475 300473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the curtains are open right now because i didn't bother to shut them :V
< 1371099484 145881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try being less lazy
< 1371099484 294905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i am sure correlates with me sleeping worse
< 1371099490 982481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think that is the hardest thing
< 1371099518 18194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the perfect season is one where it gets bright late and dark late, imo someone should invent it
< 1371099544 465569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's called 'shifting your sleep schedule'
< 1371099570 841963 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371099572 838638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't understand
< 1371099576 505248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's everyone else that should shift
< 1371099585 173610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote peple
< 1371099586 693153 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :116)  Some people are reasonable, some people who are not reasonable insist on changing things so therefore progress depends on not reasonablepeple
< 1371099588 661791 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/a97d40d2ad1395c4d197e5724c80121a/tumblr_mob8t8kQuB1r8se0eo1_1280.jpg pictured: kmc
< 1371099592 16402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ me
< 1371099596 850194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was re: 116 not re: Bike
< 1371099599 256588 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the bird
< 1371099600 332751 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I know someone who did that kind of thing too, moved their mattress from above their desk to under their desk
< 1371099607 554821 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably be claustrophobic but it sounds really nice
< 1371099609 617040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it was reasonably popular
< 1371099613 875610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get more storage space too
< 1371099629 193156 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our dorm was the quiet dorm, and it had a thing people jokingly called the intercom
< 1371099634 878010 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was that sound travelled really really well
< 1371099635 755900 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great now i'm going to be thinking about this when i look at dorms on monday
< 1371099640 215194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel like this would be a good time to make a monqy sleeping on the floor joke but unfortunately he isn't here
< 1371099640 916146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like if you made a lot of noise people would come breathe down your neck
< 1371099642 993911 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was usually super quiet
< 1371099646 38130 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the sleepabilitiy of this desk
< 1371099652 735606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371099684 572910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think that would make me paranoid to make any sound whatsoever
< 1371099688 21281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we also had some people reorganize rooms by function
< 1371099694 884530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quiet room with a bunch of beds, a socializing room
< 1371099704 376578 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well people mainly just didn't talk much in their rooms
< 1371099706 291889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Epsilon Theta at MIT takes this to the extreme
< 1371099716 278104 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :collectivize the dorms
< 1371099719 912195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all sleep in a big room in the attic which is quiet and dark 24/7
< 1371099724 257590 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371099747 260157 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm organizing pdfs; what folder should i put a document about jihadist nerds dying in syria in
< 1371099748 778472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, communism
< 1371099753 732838 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~open poll~
< 1371099767 364293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow good horse_ebooks, is that a recent one
< 1371099773 859277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i "lost track" of horse_ebooks
< 1371099779 288166 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea
< 1371099805 104953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i assume the folders are Chaos, Discord, Confusion, Bureaucracy, Aftermath in which case I would say Chaos
< 1371099807 860591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez, everyone in the dorm sleeping together?
< 1371099820 389573 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok
< 1371099829 74911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Horse_ebooks/status/344933381060038656 https://twitter.com/Horse_ebooks/status/344949349907849216 still goin wrong i see
< 1371099832 120013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1371099833 576766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by wrong i mean strong
< 1371099833 795363 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION moves to Psychology (burn)

< 1371099842 692672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well typed horse ebooks do not go wrong
< 1371099863 826375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think the badly-typed ones are usually funnier
< 1371099894 631122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There was always a danger of side effects . Sometimes the side effects could be serious. Danger of"
< 1371099905 103877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell_ebooks
< 1371099907 169076 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371099942 178755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :todo: add a markov chain generator to lambdabot
< 1371099951 543580 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really need to get mendeley or something ugh
< 1371099960 579271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOLDING FOLDING FOLDING FOLOING FOLDING FOLDING FOLDING FOLDING FOLDING FOLDING FOLOING FOLOING BOXBOARDS B0X60ARDS BOXBOARDS BOXBOARDS
< 1371099961 150224 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have so much crap in a "Computer Engineering" folder
< 1371099996 201921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yo if you figure out a good thing to dump pdfs into let me know
< 1371100000 973302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget why i decided not to try mendeley
< 1371100009 128281 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think anyone reading the titles of all these papers would conclude that i was compulsive
< 1371100020 694322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend who proofreads / typesets papers says that mendeley kind of sucks but she doesn't know a better alternative
< 1371100026 146641 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1371100029 596071 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: write one in haskell
< 1371100039 96944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my requirements: metadata, it fills in the metadata for me from a citeseerx link or something, tagging, full body text search
< 1371100048 52473 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that sounds pretty nice
< 1371100049 377821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much it
< 1371100079 647300 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suddenly forget if citeseerx covers more than CS
< 1371100090 934484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it should have a magic button to turn awful .ps files without selectable text into .pdfs with selectable text
< 1371100094 109992 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm thinking of ACM
< 1371100105 992090 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i have so many pdfs without selectable text
< 1371100111 726832 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or worse, badly selectable text
< 1371100113 229173 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo war crime
< 1371100113 830013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :citeseerx does all sciences I think?
< 1371100122 279518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the dismal science?
< 1371100123 646734 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah looks like it
< 1371100123 865287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i like the ones where it's badly auto-OCR'd behidn the scenes
< 1371100126 417998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you copy it and it's just fuck
< 1371100128 24257 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES fuck that
< 1371100156 11731 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it's just like, fuck you i'll type up this whole fucking 19th century book on bugs for you if it means i can paste without getting insane garbage
< 1371100173 514407 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt nerdy as shit
< 1371100222 871343 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's anything written before the 60s
< 1371100229 153161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not my field"
< 1371100242 710452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok 60s is wrong
< 1371100251 625193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're going to say babbage or something
< 1371100254 147647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm oignoi tjoeri jdgk sgnfkjslztps`df
< 1371100255 141114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[zpcX}|VLkz;fsmknorhtJGKPSDVX|:CL/ko
< 1371100256 49624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : lagoepF :|SZdlfkpGN]rgaw 
< 1371100257 297946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ezsd pfdo]l[ \"DX>?C Bd
< 1371100258 351251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :szg\;XVC">?,ml
< 1371100261 42958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :de=sw3za]`[;
< 1371100263 551033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`l
< 1371100265 301374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: l: not found
< 1371100266 106260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]df[\hg;'N?
< 1371100267 689104 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually tried to read Babbage's Bridgewater treatise once.
< 1371100274 617783 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was boring)
< 1371100285 839860 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have sometimes got the shitty OCR problem with like 60s papers on GC or shit like that
< 1371100295 212170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone mind if i flood the channel with say 5-10 lines
< 1371100299 559018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of lambdabot command listing
< 1371100302 175158 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you already do that
< 1371100303 17699 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371100303 99027 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be emotionally helpful
< 1371100309 537859 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you're asleep so
< 1371100311 783235 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say go for it
< 1371100312 149941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1371100313 830863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @
< 1371100313 930750 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . 1337 ? @ activity activity-full admin all-dicts arr ask b52s bf bid botsnack bouvier brain bug check choice-add choose cide clear-messages clear-topic compose define dequeue-topic
< 1371100314 28192 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :devils dice dict-help djinn djinn-add djinn-clr djinn-del djinn-env djinn-names djinn-ver do docs dummy easton echo elements elite eval faq farber flush foldoc forget fortune free freshname gazetteer
< 1371100314 100077 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :get-shapr get-topic ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki hackage haskellers help hitchcock hoogle hoogle+ id ignore index instances instances-importing irc-connect jargon join karma karma+ karma-
< 1371100314 100165 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma-all keal kind l33t learn leave leet let list listall listchans listmodules listservers localtime localtime-reply messages messages-loud messages? more msg nazi-off nazi-on nixon oeis offline
< 1371100314 100210 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :palomer part paste ping pinky pl pl-resume pointful pointless pointy poll-add poll-close poll-list poll-remove poll-result poll-show pop-topic pretty print-notices protontorpedo purge-notices push-
< 1371100315 956495 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3 @more lines]
< 1371100317 883767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more
< 1371100317 991738 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic queue-topic quit quote rc reconnect remember repoint roll run sequence set-topic shift-topic shootout show slap smack spell spell-all src tell thank you thanks thesaurus thx tic-tac-toe ticker
< 1371100319 976518 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :time todo todo-add todo-delete type undefine undo unlambda unmtl unpf unpl unpointless unshift-topic uptime url v vera version vote what where where+ wiki wn world02 yarr yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw
< 1371100321 944162 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :yow
< 1371100324 960975 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yow
< 1371100326 130983 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yow
< 1371100328 381039 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@shootout
< 1371100328 478473 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all
< 1371100333 387809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really glad yow gets its own line
< 1371100334 684293 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i was thinking shooting
< 1371100353 928229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Bike
< 1371100355 175061 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Bike is Wed Jun 12 22:12:34 2013
< 1371100356 346986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help localtime-reply
< 1371100356 443949 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :time . Print a user's local time. User's client must support ctcp pings.
< 1371100358 690051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1371100362 227794 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371100362 418156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime-reply sdjfsdjf
< 1371100365 809222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this
< 1371100370 433174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime elliott
< 1371100370 795563 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is what
< 1371100373 546802 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localtime-reply
< 1371100376 365923 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Thu Jun 13 06:12:50 2013
< 1371100380 954493 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just CTCP TIMEs you
< 1371100398 907534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah hm
< 1371100401 448294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know that
< 1371100401 752767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but
< 1371100403 694926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime elliott
< 1371100405 689321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime-reply q
< 1371100410 397098 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Thu Jun 13 06:13:23 2013
< 1371100413 204257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371100419 633369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime elliott
< 1371100419 893061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime-reply q
< 1371100423 420583 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Thu Jun 13 06:13:39 2013
< 1371100423 907886 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is this like asyncronous.
< 1371100427 96978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371100433 432178 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no fucking sense i love it
< 1371100435 62073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uh
< 1371100438 361489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maps the ctcp reply to a privmsg
< 1371100441 611050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with @localtime-reply in front of it
< 1371100443 19948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking disgusting
< 1371100447 282463 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime-reply elliott
< 1371100450 925765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should
< 1371100451 578831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix that
< 1371100454 946908 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it oh no
< 1371100473 210550 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why i have this paper on tobacco viruses
< 1371100506 185084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are hella studied viruses aren't they
< 1371100513 651628 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Evolution is the process by which the genetic structure of the population of an organism changes with time." well i guess whoever wrote this was really fucking desperate to fill out the abstract
< 1371100517 664599 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the first in fact
< 1371100525 76273 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatshername who invented DNA studied them, too! it's cool
< 1371100559 712872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filler is the process by which the abstract of a paper is progressively padded with redundant information which the intended audience of the paper is already aware of.
< 1371100569 576041 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. yeah, basically
< 1371100570 301985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird how many important plants are in Solanaceae
< 1371100577 51073 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't something like that in SIGBOVIK
< 1371100583 997093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomatos and potatoes and tobacco and DEADLY NIGHTSHADE
< 1371100609 563938 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you know what they say, large genera have diverse speciation
< 1371100613 586552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reminded of irl tomacco
< 1371100615 723186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason
< 1371100621 322512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they say that
< 1371100621 760009 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tom...acco?
< 1371100632 778196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Products_produced_from_The_Simpsons#Tomacco
< 1371100636 883389 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1371100638 189789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic article title
< 1371100658 718202 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's in origin of species actually, it's pretty cool. darwin's like "yo without evolution how do you explain that big genera have more varieties" and the creationists were like "uhhhhhh"
< 1371100697 456957 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"E-I-E-I-(Annoyed Grunt)" heh i forgot that was the title
< 1371100753 889779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me also that the genus Clostridium is responsible for botulism, tetanus, terrifying antibiotic-resistant hospital diarrhea disease, and salt-rising bread
< 1371100767 824555 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: probably not helping tomaccoism: the virus is actually called Tobamovirus
< 1371100773 895763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gas gangrene
< 1371100782 458655 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that gangrene you get from gasoline
< 1371100782 899197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'pulpy kidney disease' in sheep
< 1371100787 321122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, good guess tho
< 1371100790 838143 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uh that sounds worse than the rest
< 1371100799 433564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: barack tobamo
< 1371100799 771112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're a sheep..............
< 1371100801 958303 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't... i don't want pulpy kidneys
< 1371100821 450911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo
< 1371100822 972138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you want gas gangrene or turbodiarrhea either
< 1371100823 44100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i sleep
< 1371100824 798907 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[that latin word i forget that means spread of disease between animal species] kmc!!
< 1371100831 301858 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes or i'll infect you with MRSA
< 1371100842 816231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember MRSA
< 1371100843 746660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times
< 1371100853 485256 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still exists hth
< 1371100857 78865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory resident software application
< 1371100858 712369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also remember foot and mouth
< 1371100859 620591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times
< 1371100873 239336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about mad cow
< 1371100893 129867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was "before my time"?
< 1371100893 860366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1371100894 412044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have totally drug-resistant TB in india now
< 1371100895 392464 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only true 90s kids remember rinderpest
< 1371100915 123619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, eradicated
< 1371100927 728470 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "the other eradicated disease" yeah
< 1371100947 654491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read  http://www.amazon.com/dp/0312427654 recently
< 1371100949 113075 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think next on the list is some kind of worm i forget
< 1371100949 392144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good book
< 1371100971 883345 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a shame because Dracunculiasis is a pretty boss name
< 1371100976 972688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he talks about the campaign to eradicate polio and how they are always very close but it's almost impossible to finish the job
< 1371100989 335685 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh that just reminds me of reports from pakistan
< 1371101006 512551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo eradicate colds and headaches next twh
< 1371101008 726758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a kid gets polio in an area where it's uncommon, the CDC sends like thousands of people there overnight to vaccinate everyone
< 1371101022 481009 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :colds kill half a million people every year but aren't on the list
< 1371101024 944282 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is disease
< 1371101036 434359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well cars kill several million people every year
< 1371101040 191862 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no no
< 1371101042 393574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean for selfish reasons
< 1371101045 542457 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know
< 1371101049 191597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i've never had rinderpest, personally.
< 1371101058 762895 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're a cow
< 1371101059 288164 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eradicate disease in elliotts
< 1371101067 501720 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you'd be surprised!
< 1371101077 424510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monomorphism restriction is a good way to avoid polio
< 1371101079 465738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is a cow?
< 1371101086 998813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a perfectly spherical cow

< 1371101089 690459 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1371101096 832155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo
< 1371101103 162703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt-get moo
< 1371101104 744251 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how i'd never heard of two of the next three diseases to be eliminated and i'll never get them
< 1371101111 241846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: hey kmc is infringing on your trademark
< 1371101115 691705 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow yaws looks... really nasty, though
< 1371101121 971995 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yaws_01.jpg warning: ew
< 1371101128 496214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ew are we talking
< 1371101134 406397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm about to sleep so i don't need awful mental images
< 1371101144 516980 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as ew as that picture of the guy with the necrotic leg
< 1371101149 352971 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just lumpy
< 1371101240 687483 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh now i'm pissed about malaria vaccination again help
< 1371101262 364725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it
< 1371101268 864452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a thing?
< 1371101279 648063 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, measles i meant
< 1371101285 797393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371101288 717498 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you pissed?
< 1371101290 254866 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :malaria is just bad all by itself
< 1371101301 389127 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: do you know about "the controversy"
< 1371101307 626570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh was shachaf's statement an extremly oblique pun on "MMR"?
< 1371101307 734083 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :assume I don't
< 1371101322 868156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no, just "poly-o"
< 1371101337 761291 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some people think measles vaccines cause autism and so don't get them and then get measles
< 1371101340 769983 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end
< 1371101362 647584 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway did you know there's such a thing as infectious blindness (in humans). elliott: do you need this to sleep
< 1371101366 728746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc why do books have forewords that are added years after the book is written and are only interesting to people who have already read the book
< 1371101374 800092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just put it at the end of the book
< 1371101377 658741 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, elliott needs infectious blindness to sleep
< 1371101388 366795 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: those suck
< 1371101408 212475 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially for real old novels where they explain the whole plot.
< 1371101415 165620 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like boreword amirite
< 1371101518 828096 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they should be postwords?
< 1371101539 578022 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my copy of On the Road has a few of those.
< 1371101553 678559 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it better than The Road?
< 1371101555 849833 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that book is shit
< 1371101589 557555 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why are we on a road?" "Because we have to be." "Okay." "Okay." "Okay."
< 1371101594 148078 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, I have summarized the entire book
< 1371101600 583695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting for godot's road
< 1371101616 256255 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read The Road but I stopped reading On the Road because I got bored of him going on about random sex with run-on sentences
< 1371101629 136111 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound quite as bad
< 1371101631 60436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even have sex with a sentence
< 1371101641 448608 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno but he managed
< 1371101646 559995 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my copy is pre-editing. it shows)
< 1371101671 879184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking tweakers
< 1371101678 332977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike did you read three men in a boat
< 1371101702 958223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a book about a road.......made of water
< 1371101703 276755 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1371101704 829651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's goo
< 1371101708 159210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d
< 1371101720 130196 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me that the Solaris film is apparently freely watchable
< 1371101725 200024 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I don't understand Russian.
< 1371101737 679970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc can confirm that _Three Men in a Boat_ is good.
< 1371101741 616529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371101746 995277 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed
< 1371101751 63884 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google three men in a boat
< 1371101751 716243 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Men_in_a_Boat
< 1371101751 822054 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Three Men in a Boat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
< 1371101778 185421 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, looks good.
< 1371101788 265520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371101805 140559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/files/308/308-h/308-h.htm
< 1371101845 331419 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's convenient.
< 1371101853 473897 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'll read it once i sort these pdfs.
< 1371101857 41017 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
< 1371102348 242070 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371102483 664262 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371103282 291933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2013/write_some_fucking_code.html is a bit unfair to the whole idea of reading about things you're learning about
< 1371103336 352686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371103349 255176 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, ha, sexually oriented jokes
< 1371103354 953146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too
< 1371103404 273193 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought monad tutorials were a thing that's so stale that every meta-commentary on meta-commentaries about them is already just as stale, etc
< 1371103422 514217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if this person has seen the burrito article
< 1371103423 362728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1371103483 825530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that reminds me should i watch _Brazil_
< 1371103491 269145 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i put this paper about the grandmother hypothesis under Bio/ or Anthro/
< 1371103502 587595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes shachaf
< 1371103504 628976 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess both the writers are anthropologists good enough
< 1371103507 203593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it be depressing
< 1371103511 562018 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371103537 504878 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow why do i have a chinual page
< 1371103734 75745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so when are you going to move to ca
< 1371103738 887026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :before jul 1?
< 1371103742 159506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371103745 346994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a few days before
< 1371103751 35872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371103753 65695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking to some people now about maybe living at their house
< 1371103768 374661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mozilla offered me a really sweet deal including relocation expenses
< 1371103793 956470 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice.
< 1371103796 17331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't understand why they have so much money.....
< 1371103809 889570 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who, mozilla?
< 1371103811 974560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371103825 283819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess when 20% of the world uses your browser, and a browser is one of the most important programs, you can make a lot of money from it
< 1371103837 889503 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you said they were paid off by Google.
< 1371103841 969440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371103850 525976 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i have a pdf reverse engineering final fantasy seven.
< 1371103851 398751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :google has a lot more money hth
< 1371103852 201671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand intuitively how they can make so much from that
< 1371103862 194737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't like sat down and tried to crunch the numbers
< 1371103887 462588 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well intuitively speaking, google has basically infinite money
< 1371103892 801947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they don't have a mandate to pay dividends or grow in an aggressive shortsighted way
< 1371103903 250076 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, mozilla isn't publically traded?
< 1371103909 794040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they are a non-profit foundation
< 1371103914 858322 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wack
< 1371103934 15894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well technically Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit that owns the taxable Mozilla Corporation
< 1371103945 103982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a kind of odd structure
< 1371103947 493710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey if you work at mozilla in sf maybe you'll meet $REDACTED
< 1371103951 203274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not as sketchy as IKEA!
< 1371103954 648330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whosat
< 1371103958 8411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind i shouldn't talk about it
< 1371103968 791124 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not ominous at all
< 1371103972 825058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember someone tried to draw the corporate ownership chart at my finance job and it was wack
< 1371103978 282764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like every trading strategy had its own LLC
< 1371103985 930000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that were owned in some kind of complicated tree
< 1371103989 516463 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus
< 1371103990 503721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why?
< 1371103994 787775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then my actual employer was just contracting services to them
< 1371104003 880569 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some Accelerando shit
< 1371104004 647372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except my actual ACTUAL employer was a HR services provider
< 1371104009 91242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah exactly
< 1371104032 32073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read Accelerando a few months before I started looking for jobs out of college, and I have to say that I took the HFT job in large part because of that book
< 1371104032 614434 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :np-complete problems of the future: find a hamiltonian cycle of your employer
< 1371104036 696336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D :D
< 1371104037 612372 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371104045 784687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i presume they are independent LLCs so that each strategy can go bankrupt on its own
< 1371104055 878024 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's, i don't know what that is.
< 1371104064 453406 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of bizarre evolutionary strategy
< 1371104086 159241 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like if i had nine independent hands and each one was wired a different way, and if i lost a hand well whatever it probably sucked anyway
< 1371104092 362876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also e.g. some parts of the company-cluster were certified broker-dealers, which gets you certain rights and privileges in the markets
< 1371104103 843933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some of the strategies had to be extra super legally separate so they got offices with doors.
< 1371104116 226854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :were there people in the offices
< 1371104133 300355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few
< 1371104143 641152 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were the people publically traded
< 1371104150 694168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no afaik
< 1371104160 25457 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371104171 256718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can i buy shares of Bike
< 1371104181 64198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some of the traders retained ownership of their trading code and had brought it from other firms
< 1371104185 662303 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet somewhere there's a company where different strategies have their own LLCs and compete over employees in a private market
< 1371104191 449813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371104207 303916 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i bud, sorry
< 1371104209 816187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we sort of did that
< 1371104213 816616 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371104224 593712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 'general' pool of programmers was (at least at one point) seen mainly as a tool for recruiting people into strategies
< 1371104227 253511 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i keep these pdfs from a space school about Future Technology
< 1371104234 441631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the idea that they would actually produce generally useful code was maybe secondary
< 1371104252 254260 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371104273 717489 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a paper on classical conditioning being sub-turing...
< 1371104283 373284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the sysadmin group was its own little fiefdom and if you wanted good computers or whatever, you needed to have a lot of trade revenue so you could promise them big bonuses
< 1371104296 746073 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's uh, weird
< 1371104303 190376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet they had none of the transparency or SLAs or such you would expect from an actual internal market
< 1371104305 469465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do all finance companies work this way
< 1371104309 212612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they were moving in that direction when I left
< 1371104310 123920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no
< 1371104323 8195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there's a spectrum between "unified company" and "shell for many independent strategies"
< 1371104323 718617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always sounded like yours was kind of dysfunctional
< 1371104327 254257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it was
< 1371104335 839566 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was it dysfunctional?
< 1371104338 92920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some firms, everyone can see all the code, and all the money is pooled deterministically
< 1371104342 121442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well see above, for one
< 1371104355 859117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the sysadmin group was just bad at their jobs, but they couldn't be fired because Personal Connections
< 1371104357 952940 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well i don't even know what "SLA" means, maybe i shouldn't ask
< 1371104363 458700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :service level agreement
< 1371104375 482708 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no idea :P
< 1371104379 95243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "we will provide 99.9% uptime or else you get $bignum"
< 1371104400 371081 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a contract?
< 1371104401 727923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were actually buying trading infrastructure services from an external company, you would want one
< 1371104404 538021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sometimes "we will provide 99.9% uptime or else you get $thedifferenceinhostingcostswhichisbasicallynothing"
< 1371104407 680683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the internal sysadmin group didn't provide them
< 1371104433 977991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically I'm saying they tried to sell their services internally, but in an opaque and unaccountable way
< 1371104437 198371 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371104440 359828 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO still waiting for an answer on the space thing
< 1371104452 636579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were absurdly miserly about small things like RAM upgrades
< 1371104456 19997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: delete all pdfs hth
< 1371104457 288113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for production high frequency trading machines
< 1371104468 507371 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the paper about inter-universal teichmuller theory, which i will never, ever understand
< 1371104470 893314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have to think it wasn't just about the miniscule cost but about making pepole beg and bargain
< 1371104473 867059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what about space
< 1371104506 203259 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have some pdfs from a mildly shady space technology oriented school, about terraforming and impact in African nations and such
< 1371104518 579880 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if i believe them well enough to keep them so why not ask people who really don't give a damn (that's you)
< 1371104586 437054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm don't want to read these atm
< 1371104652 728219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On 20 December 2011 Mozilla announced that the contract was once again renewed for at least three years to November 2014, at three times the amount previously paid, or nearly US$300 million annually"
< 1371104661 182800 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from google?
< 1371104663 561466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371104669 862725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for making Google the default search engine in Firefox
< 1371104682 964661 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an incredible payoff for just that
< 1371104685 164620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"due to competing interest from both Yahoo and Microsoft"
< 1371104703 875204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a staggering amount of money, but I don't really have a handle on how much Google makes from those searches
< 1371104707 360807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably they think it's a good deal
< 1371104727 542614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSFT has loads of money and if FF switched to Bing, that would be a huge blow
< 1371104756 731525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess my salary is effectively a byproduct of a Google / MSFT bidding war, at least until 2014
< 1371104769 818499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't really find this any weirder or less reputable than the way other tech companies get funded
< 1371104780 967190 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why MSFT hasn't sued for antitrust yet
< 1371104791 345302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sued Google for bundling, or such?
< 1371104800 167229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit of pot kettle there, don't you think ;)
< 1371104800 276130 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :cartels, or something
< 1371104805 484254 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, definitely
< 1371104807 494238 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: patents
< 1371104818 535461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh i don't think it's a cartel if Mozilla auctioned it off to the highest bidder
< 1371104837 418963 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pot calls the kettle black, and the chicken comes by and gets covered in soot
< 1371104843 5101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not much of a lawyer though
< 1371104848 974130 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :before yelling at the pot and kettle about how black they are
< 1371104854 820309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i thought you were my attorney
< 1371104856 706004 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me, did you know there's a word for the dual situation of a monopoly, where there's only one buyer?
< 1371104858 981801 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then someone turns out the lights
< 1371104860 614757 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think that's pretty cool
< 1371104864 810592 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: monopsony
< 1371104868 409809 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371104889 880538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool word
< 1371104931 918739 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why_i_dont_have_a_girlfriend.pdf
< 1371104932 419675 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: your country's department of defence has a monopsony
< 1371104936 585014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah was about to say
< 1371104938 302857 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and still manages to waste shit-tons of money
< 1371104948 450548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though not quite, because we export hella weapons, but that's also approved by the govt
< 1371104964 597875 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the bit where the navy was the only one buying aircraft carriers and there's also only one corporation that can build aircraft carriers
< 1371104966 469252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they waste shit-tons of money because of regulatory capture I guess
< 1371104969 742246 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :free market in action right there
< 1371104978 896316 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you also have like 300k people with top secret clearance
< 1371104981 93370 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so top really
< 1371104983 425103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really 'waste', it's deliberately being funneled to for-profit companies
< 1371104988 370080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there's a lot of actual waste too
< 1371105000 85445 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just dump the money into the reactors
< 1371105017 119229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fair use for Tsar Bomba... The photograph belongs to Russian department of Atomic Energy Minatom. Introducing the picture on our server does not interfere with their ability to develop and market new nuclear devices"
< 1371105025 586307 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, you know what the world needs?
< 1371105034 753600 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more cool ships?
< 1371105037 322611 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a device which tells you which wiki is better: the one on wikia or the one that isn't
< 1371105041 895331 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since everything has exactly two wikis
< 1371105042 261320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well there are higher clearance levels
< 1371105046 521936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but you're not allowed to know about them
< 1371105060 677848 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would be pretty nice coppro
< 1371105065 884021 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's get elliott to invent it
< 1371105071 783411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doors in the rudders of big ships
< 1371105075 517004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: The one on Wikia is worse by definition. hth
< 1371105182 653465 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the US classification system has secret/top secret and all but also has this weird sort of tag system
< 1371105182 859214 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well there's cosmic top secret
< 1371105183 877569 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gamma
< 1371105199 747398 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :particularly there are Special Interest Groups which you sometimes need classification to know about
< 1371105200 751917 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's far from true
< 1371105206 700955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGBOVIK
< 1371105217 888685 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIA special interest group on bovikation
< 1371105218 124989 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this is reasonably common
< 1371105221 561530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGKILL
< 1371105226 307041 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine that the US needs them more than other countries
< 1371105235 673840 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but classified info is normally need-to-know
< 1371105249 374046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bovakistan
< 1371105249 809506 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :having clearance is necessary but far from sufficient
< 1371105257 42569 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have no idea about other countries because i haven't looked
< 1371105264 175957 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371105270 987826 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US classification I know about because it's on wikileaks docs etc
< 1371105273 546985 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tagging system is, I assume, just a way of implementing
< 1371105280 778068 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371105292 700941 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like NOFORN = even if a foreign national has clearance don't show 'em
< 1371105293 318805 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :et
< 1371105294 43392 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c
< 1371105305 606272 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that
< 1371105310 470807 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOFORN would be different, I think
< 1371105323 599751 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since a foreign national even with the need to know couldn't be given NOFORN info
< 1371105347 683512 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do sometimes make exceptions i think but yeah
< 1371105356 479002 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371105363 440571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would i be allowed to see NOFORN things
< 1371105385 564908 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah they're all on wikileaks
< 1371105392 405447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'allowed'
< 1371105401 809833 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :allowed by wikileaks hth
< 1371105510 66656 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get classification at all. there was that pakistani guy who like invented nukes for them and then they decided you're not the right kind of muslim so fuck off and bam clearance gone? governments are crazy imo
< 1371105581 750891 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they did that with oppenheimer too. except w/o the muslim bit
< 1371105607 772219 :oleg!~oleg@host-static-92-115-42-25.moldtelecom.md JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371105632 518190 :oleg!~oleg@host-static-92-115-42-25.moldtelecom.md NICK :Guest17482
< 1371105667 199442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know oppenheimer tried to poison his professor
< 1371105676 163074 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not surprised
< 1371105708 458733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who hasn't, really
< 1371105740 746198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, why do people *still* spread monad misinformation? Just plain lies.
< 1371105754 918867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should have a test that you have to pass before you're allowed to talk about the topic.
< 1371105756 449732 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should classify monads
< 1371105760 462511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then pass no one.
< 1371105778 509974 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are not a crook
< 1371105793 769163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how are the pdfs going
< 1371105804 220017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they misinformationing in #haskell
< 1371105805 619424 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I am president of the united states
< 1371105809 600397 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will classify the lunch menu
< 1371105814 972916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i am king you will be first against the wall
< 1371105827 854268 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that anyone who tries to eat lunch in the white house without clearance is in violation of classification
< 1371105832 986053 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's treason, citizen
< 1371105835 87365 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: moved a few dozen
< 1371105852 131269 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm too sleepy to read this paper on optimizing away Y combinators, yes
< 1371105854 618408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no on hn comments on that article
< 1371105858 931876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i looked up for some reason
< 1371105870 598293 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a bad idea
< 1371105871 183109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that reason because you are a masochist
< 1371105876 332513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could there be any other reason
< 1371105898 451836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1371105912 301116 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this paper is on kolmogorov complexity in presburger arithmetic
< 1371105917 187360 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck am i even doing with this
< 1371105918 413627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a particular variety of masochist, sure
< 1371105920 311526 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who am i
< 1371105955 355172 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Taming Wildcards in Java's Type System" ok strongly considering the deleting all pdfs option
< 1371105967 165673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott and i have a sort of sadism-masochism relationship
< 1371105984 775975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think he started it
< 1371106033 210918 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hobbes, Rawls, Nussbaum, Buchmann, and All Seven of the Virtues"
< 1371106035 549611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this thread is p. great
< 1371106043 7592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a question: "what is a monad, really?
< 1371106057 398376 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a miserable little pile of morphisms
< 1371106060 400612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :an answer that talks about bind taking the value out of the monad and wrapping it in another monad
< 1371106061 105888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is monad, baby don't hurt me
< 1371106066 139039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :graaah
< 1371106068 440704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :an answer that talks about composition of adjoint functors
< 1371106084 276072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:32 < kmc> you can take the kmc out of the #haskell but you can never take the #haskell out of the kmc
< 1371106086 372585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the ideal thread of bad explanations
< 1371106106 975101 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks how unintuitive "a thing that follows these rules" is an explanation apparently
< 1371106164 386736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's focus on the real question: should i eat more noodles
< 1371106168 861714 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god yes
< 1371106179 940540 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbr.pdf has surprisingly little to do with hipsters
< 1371106201 175825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "let's focus on the real question: should i eat more nooodles" | rnooodl
< 1371106202 925096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's focus on the real question: should i eat more noooodles
< 1371106207 719217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "let's focus on the real question: should i eat more nooodles" | rnooodl
< 1371106209 400697 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's focus on the real question: should i eat more noooooooodles
< 1371106213 153681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like it
< 1371106227 95033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that PBR's claim to have won a Blue Ribbon is highly dubious
< 1371106240 224368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the ice cream shop down the street that says «"The World's Best Ice Cream" -- New York Times» on the window
< 1371106248 781654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :toscanini's?
< 1371106250 931964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371106256 270405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was there!
< 1371106258 794046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ate ice cream
< 1371106262 780508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it the wordl's best
< 1371106271 205444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the burnt caramel ice cream was not to my taste
< 1371106280 457670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the burnt:caramel ratio was too high
< 1371106282 939738 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf will just have to eat every oether ice cream in the world to be sure
< 1371106291 193327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have good ice cream in sf
< 1371106308 410087 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Analogy Between Physics and Topology" it's way too midnight for this shit
< 1371106317 978294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was at that place with the liquid nitrogen ice cream
< 1371106318 204460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to the Three Twins location in Lower Haight but then it burned down :/
< 1371106321 860510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepared in front of your very eyes
< 1371106323 126848 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think elliott linked me this one actually. fuck you, elliott. read your fucking hott
< 1371106345 715968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh are you looking for papers to read
< 1371106347 32127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have some
< 1371106351 802372 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no for fuck's sake
< 1371106352 611656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notice: Undefined index: user in include() (line 272 of /home/content/48/8614948/html/sites/all/themes/fusion/fusion_starter/node--scoop-shop.tpl.php).
< 1371106357 214452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have good frozen yogurt in downtown mountain view
< 1371106367 663623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was ok
< 1371106369 571334 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :colorblindness in cuttlefish
< 1371106372 446484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more about the toppings, imo
< 1371106373 292527 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be relevant to my life
< 1371106379 83303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they can see polarization can't they
< 1371106395 540757 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah probably
< 1371106408 98139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also can't they mimick colors? can't be totally color blind
< 1371106417 544044 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this paper is about literally exactly that
< 1371106423 879202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, good
< 1371106430 916366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more comments: "learning Haskell verges on learning mathematical concepts at times and learning monads is definitely one of those times"
< 1371106441 634190 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371106442 694932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the tl;dr
< 1371106464 18607 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the paper? i refer you to my "oh god it's midnight why am i doing this (dong this)"
< 1371106472 855335 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme look again
< 1371106508 815495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wow you're saying programming is related to math? incredible
< 1371106529 73866 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess their answer is "yep definitely colorblind but that camo thing sure is weird"
< 1371106533 995178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote programm.*math
< 1371106534 131179 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: Haskell isn't really designed by mathematicians.  it's designed by people who programmers would consider to be mathematicians and mathematicians would consider to be programmers
< 1371106534 212524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good science
< 1371106536 399325 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they suggest it might have to do with perception of contrast
< 1371106539 948537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote programm.*math
< 1371106540 85612 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: Haskell isn't really designed by mathematicians.  it's designed by people who programmers would consider to be mathematicians and mathematicians would consider to be programmers
< 1371106542 395159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371106543 195652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote programm.*math
< 1371106543 310561 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: Haskell isn't really designed by mathematicians. it's designed by people who programmers would consider to be mathematicians and mathematicians would consider to be programmers
< 1371106556 188506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote programming.*math
< 1371106556 325496 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: programming is inherently mathematical.  furthermore, the connection between haskell and maths is overblown by people who don't understand the language
< 1371106562 91171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc stop it with the quotes
< 1371106589 972620 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmquotable
< 1371106601 652242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote math.*programm
< 1371106601 789199 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRWBW says: category theory gives math a bad name. sorta like functional programming does with computer science.
< 1371106609 628603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh TRWBW
< 1371106616 744372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is TRWBW still around in ##math
< 1371106628 746892 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i have a paper on Blue Gene simulations of cats, awesome
< 1371106650 48093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like how that quote is in the quote database twice.
< 1371106662 998342 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you tell
< 1371106675 270619 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually don't answer that it can be a mystery
< 1371106675 886184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: today I told people that you need monads to do IO the same way you need ZFC set theory to do 2+2
< 1371106689 653758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: There's a double-spaced and single-spaced version.
< 1371106695 699862 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that's not such a bad analogy really
< 1371106708 204207 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's New Foundations in this analogy
< 1371106716 422735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@forget kmc Haskell isn't really designed by mathematicians. it's designed by people who programmers would consider to be mathematicians and mathematicians would consider to be programmers
< 1371106716 522199 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1371106721 782162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike
< 1371106723 522226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I saw.
< 1371106731 951279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasonably analogy for that argument.
< 1371106751 853352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow's headlines: haskell requires programmers to know zfc to write hello world
< 1371106756 39124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371106766 32524 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[world's best] really [...] not [...] bad analogy" -- Bike
< 1371106766 140502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sorry actually
< 1371106779 219677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said you need *category theory* for IO the same way etc
< 1371106789 394059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371106800 247854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to understand the stdlib thing named "Monad" but that's not such a big deal
< 1371106801 572516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one retweeted you
< 1371106803 863593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371106809 690533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do it
< 1371106815 923404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i used tweeter so i could retwit you
< 1371106839 608896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also complained about #haskell
< 1371106843 624846 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my client doesn't show replies i guess
< 1371106844 477255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw.
< 1371106844 588695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably saw that too
< 1371106847 877827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should send your quote in to HWN.
< 1371106856 505537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody retwerped that either
< 1371106858 131028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one
< 1371106867 979877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/hwnquotes
< 1371106878 910829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo retweet your own tweet and stick @HWNQuotes in front of it
< 1371106881 699990 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest i'm not sure i'd want to see this argument though
< 1371106881 875318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll show 'em
< 1371106926 460830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw this is the thread i was talking about if anyone else has masochistic tendencies: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5872002
< 1371106929 159125 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguing about programming languages is like negative my things
< 1371106956 166622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguing about programming languages is like using similes
< 1371106977 779879 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit i have a homotopy type theory paper help
< 1371106986 202446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: rm -f -f -f hth
< 1371107013 912400 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :site-name_-_title_-_mod-yyyy-mod-mm-mod-dd.pdf
< 1371107014 726500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hott seems "p. cool actually"
< 1371107037 943328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did I ever ask you about that thing I was trying to figure out with inequality?
< 1371107046 355234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type inequality.
< 1371107054 543115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371107074 885657 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok finishing this tomorrow thank's for playing
< 1371107086 440729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tia
< 1371107102 289745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell10 + RankNTypes, something like "forall p. p Char -> p Bool" is completely independent, as far as I can tell.
< 1371107124 106101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. foo :: forall p. p Char -> p Bool and bar :: (forall p. p Char -> p Bool) -> Void are both unprovable (without ⊥ etc.)
< 1371107155 973584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GADTs and TypeFamilies both let you prove bar, but those are huge and slightly dubious extensions. Is there a smaller extension that'll let you prove bar?
< 1371107176 731406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :((forall p. p A -> p B) is Leibniz type equality between A and B.)
< 1371107244 397344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1371107281 948654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way GADTs give it to you is more or less by omitting a warning when a GADT pattern match would lead to a unification error.
< 1371107310 578329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems, well, reasonable, but an axiom-via-not-printing-a-warning seems kind of suspicious. I'd like to see it stated explicitly somehow.
< 1371107372 821809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you get edwardkomments about affine types?
< 1371107380 153583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371107408 856180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I wrote the appropriate GADT
< 1371107423 598258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Foo t where FooChar :: Foo Char; FooBool :: Void -> Foo Bool
< 1371107432 728214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eq :: (forall p. p Char -> p Bool) -> Void;  eq f = case f FooChar of FooBool v -> v
< 1371107435 727250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you had in mind?
< 1371107444 583096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. That's how you do it with GADTs.
< 1371107454 439449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where do you think it should warn?
< 1371107487 155816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't necessarily think it should warn -- it's just that this "axiom" is implemented via not warning about the fact that you're not matching FooChar.
< 1371107488 709343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i decided to have beer instead of more noodles
< 1371107493 264001 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fool
< 1371107504 202119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see it stated explicitly.
< 1371107509 460467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you match FooChar? the type doesn't match
< 1371107515 126654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371107526 978624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, imagine you tried to emulate GADTs with Leibniz equality.
< 1371107528 312127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want something like  «case f FooChar of FooBool v -> v; FooChar ()»
< 1371107536 114033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like an absurd pattern in Agda?
< 1371107542 136121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I may have misremembered the syntax
< 1371107546 242143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but you need a proof that it's absurd.
< 1371107547 116990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i regret nothing
< 1371107551 845693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that proof is Is Char Bool -> Void
< 1371107555 99563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah, and... yeah
< 1371107555 944422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't write that without GADTs.
< 1371107574 594206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Is a b = Is (forall p. p a -> p b)
< 1371107577 692827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :agda has that notion of type equality built in though, right?
< 1371107587 758462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Foo t = FooChar (Is t Char) | FooBool (Is t Bool) Void
< 1371107597 904284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't give you the same power as the GADT.
< 1371107598 17452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is your GADTs-via-Leibniz?
< 1371107600 714971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371107602 23699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371107606 898643 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a funny conversation to see after "you don't need math for haskell" :P
< 1371107610 710613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371107618 105677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't Haskell!!!!!! it's Haskell + RankNTypes + GADTs
< 1371107621 518210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P
< 1371107630 214159 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :totes diff
< 1371107638 597499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really "needed" either...
< 1371107645 364913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's needed if you want to do specific cool things
< 1371107677 821148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you need math to use pencil and paper! look at those people writing those complicated equations there!"
< 1371107686 303625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need fancy stuff if you want a far higher degree of static checking than other languages
< 1371107693 447641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want only moderately higher degree, you don't
< 1371107711 734024 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ":P" meant that wasn't supposed to be a serious criticism of either thing, just saying
< 1371107714 289696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :moderately higher degree... is that like a master's
< 1371107714 644049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know
< 1371107721 260734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm obliged to respnod though
< 1371107725 657112 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerd
< 1371107741 318778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Anyway, in HoTT you actually *do* get equality of isomorphic types.
< 1371107756 656297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. you can write foo :: Is Word8 Int8 or something like that.
< 1371107759 435943 :Guest17482!~oleg@host-static-92-115-42-25.moldtelecom.md QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371107781 779008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So HoTT is incompatible with GADTs in GHC, because it always assumes inequality.
< 1371107825 295656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain the last bit?
< 1371107840 898640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that it assumes Char will never be equal to Bool.
< 1371107848 960016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case it really never will, because they're different sizes.
< 1371107863 214575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you had an isomorphism then you might be able to provide actual equality.
< 1371107872 131718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NB: I don't actually understand HoTT.)
< 1371107889 938574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1371107892 503482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really
< 1371107906 125453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving is also related to this. It uses unsafeCoerce as evidence that a newtype and its underlying type are equal.
< 1371107911 608413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in HoTT i can do (Word8 -> Int8) -> (Int8 -> Word8) -> Is Word8 Int8 ?
< 1371107922 377352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I also prove it's a legit isomorphism, somehow?
< 1371107927 155776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you'd probably want an actual isomorphism, not just a pair of functions.
< 1371107928 386214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371107932 775997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the general idea.
< 1371107966 204365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think GND is actually safe in Haskell10 + RankNTypes.
< 1371107977 263526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only when you add GADTs or TypeFamilies that it breaks.
< 1371107981 921944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1371107991 89257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not surprising though
< 1371108009 675510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my intuition is that GADTs and TFs let you use types less "parametrically" than is generally assumed in Haskell
< 1371108013 742934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the source of a lot of trouble
< 1371108019 451737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371108049 418306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://joyoftypes.blogspot.com/2012/08/generalizednewtypederiving-is.html says he couldn't figure out a way to do it with just Leibniz equality. But I think it's actually not possible, because there's something missing there.
< 1371108064 821946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :GADTs with weaker Leibniz-style equality would probably be less useful.
< 1371108156 735427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway what I'd like is to see the extra power that GADTs give you stated explicitly somehow.
< 1371108170 414744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But talking about inequality is annoying.
< 1371108246 562407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tweet i am not drunk enough to send: "Haskell sucks because it requires you to learn some math to do things that are simply impossible in other languages"
< 1371108273 151062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution is more beer hth
< 1371108278 269341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of beer
< 1371108280 415336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :switching to cider
< 1371108336 840622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you would get so many replies about turing completeness
< 1371108340 662710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be great
< 1371108346 243092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3
< 1371108351 933814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would
< 1371108358 125417 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh kmc i can just use Perl to write a slime mold emulator that runs haskell
< 1371108444 299160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming languages is a HCI problem
< 1371108448 135110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's another tweet i won't send
< 1371108459 140943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead i will just drink more and watch Mad Men
< 1371108467 512652 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good decision
< 1371108733 985266 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371109077 499989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my alcohol tolerance is pretty ridiculous
< 1371109115 36668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc has a ∞-tolerance policy
< 1371109119 737560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1371109124 622321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a big white dude, you see
< 1371109136 105434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i drink often
< 1371109175 268560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i drink often
< 1371109202 503979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh
< 1371109227 635643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i drink occasionally
< 1371109231 777451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1371109254 748120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often have a few drinks, but I occasionally get properly drunk
< 1371109259 737105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above re: tolerance
< 1371109351 447354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing drm code must be unpleasant
< 1371109354 899969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol is overrated because it's the one widely accepted legal fun drug
< 1371109357 594519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fighting a battle you know you'll lose
< 1371109365 406088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still worth doing from time to time
< 1371109395 330844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eh, or you see it like any other security measure, as something to keep out attackers of a certain skill level for a certain amount of time
< 1371109408 117906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly.
< 1371109417 327128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I agree that DRM on content is pretty hopeless, because it takes only one person to put it on BitTorrent
< 1371109430 396109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why Hulu bothers with DRM on some shows, when those same shows can be recorded over the air
< 1371109445 486589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like locking down video game consoles to signed software are less hopeless
< 1371109455 212330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might stand for 6-18 months and that's enough for a meaningful advantage
< 1371109463 640197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with anti-reverse-engineering tech
< 1371109479 461253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can make your competitors spend a few million or delay them by a few months, that can be a big deal
< 1371109479 572697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose some people explicitly have it as their goal to keep the DRM uncracked for a few weeks or some period of time in which the majority of sales are usually made.
< 1371109602 1231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is picking through a big bin of diamond-cut shredder shit and is having fun identifying the source documents

< 1371109616 632380 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... why
< 1371109629 564810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops here's a diamond that contains a full 1D barcode
< 1371109634 510779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: boredom
< 1371109655 335125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stuff i shredded
< 1371109720 889249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I miss from college is easy access to a fireplace for document destruction
< 1371109813 465093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an hour of need any space can serve as a fireplace
< 1371109823 505407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/spac/plac/
< 1371109862 47840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is true
< 1371109879 829352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but urban areas have these busybodies who show up and try to put out fires
< 1371109891 222349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. rude
< 1371109907 265377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you do it on purpose you get banned
< 1371109909 746516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ultimate ban
< 1371109911 309912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ur-ban
< 1371109979 527064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should be banned from this channel
< 1371109996 955467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard kmc was moving to sf because it was an herban area
< 1371110017 868412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't banchaf :'(
< 1371110020 780968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes
< 1371110027 587301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the only reason but... a reason
< 1371110091 851608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody in SF was complaining about how they were "flying to a place where drugs are illegal"
< 1371110107 747847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to get a what'sitcalled medical thing
< 1371110128 170535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1371110158 84683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i can visit dispensaries and get all pretentious about different strains of weed
< 1371110177 532720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have it delivered to you
< 1371110183 616940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1371110188 419994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. soon Bike can do the same thing of course
< 1371110244 250393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371110423 910166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Bike actually moving to CA
< 1371110463 43795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371110466 762196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant the whole WA thing
< 1371110844 641087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371110845 313681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1371110852 947844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't even need a 'green card' though
< 1371110974 886384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371111060 739992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are drugz as good as drugz jokes
< 1371111109 973146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to compare
< 1371111153 837152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about drugz jokes......on drugz
< 1371111186 468118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to be in san jose at 11 tomorrow
< 1371111538 234149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1371111574 95740 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371111658 95241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'--sparc2.2: If  an array was created on a SPARC machine with a 2.2 Linux kernel patched with RAID support, the superblock will have been created incorrectly, or at least incompatibly with 2.4 and later kernels.  Using the --sparc2.2 flag with --examine will fix the superblock before displaying it.'  i love computers
< 1371111752 37977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :meeting people
< 1371111758 873973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc you should read `olist it's good
< 1371111759 117942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of people
< 1371111949 462482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :san jose people
< 1371111956 135006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey someone unfollowed me on twitter
< 1371111961 903952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371111967 519019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf do you have cool friends
< 1371111986 324859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp it was @darinmorrison
< 1371112057 554802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm how do i tell
< 1371112177 406076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-utils/2010-10/msg00002.html thanks gnu time
< 1371112256 983252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's two (binary) orders of magnitude between friends
< 1371112269 982565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 12? whatever
< 1371112291 961280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this cider allegedly pairs with shrimps and cheeses
< 1371112303 373959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't like shrimps :(
< 1371112326 871102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think that icon means 'seafood generally'
< 1371112367 516418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to eat seafood just because you drink the cider
< 1371112374 672931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not speaking of shrimps did you see http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_lobster?printable=true
< 1371112425 455131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have not read it yet
< 1371112438 994862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh did i link it before
< 1371112483 29824 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"... One visitor would argue that the celebration involves a whole lot more." is this article about drugs?
< 1371112577 544428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but i know of it generally
< 1371112585 132440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of DFW's essay collections is named after this essay
< 1371113296 993805 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371115446 694170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.nyu.edu/pipermail/fom/2013-June/017369.html Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem proved in Isabelle
< 1371115822 311294 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371116235 173799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you know about count-min sketch
< 1371116241 608007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371116270 86934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a thing like a bloom filter
< 1371116305 778898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading
< 1371116377 375780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371116512 201863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1371116529 518834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia only says how to use it for counts, but I guess it can be used for other things?
< 1371117066 218646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep

< 1371117219 420281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much more about it than you presumably do now. :-)
< 1371117241 272570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: •Privacy preserving computations ensure that multiple parties can cooperate to compute a function of their data while only learning the answer and not anything about the inputs of the other participants. Roughan and Zhang demonstrate that the Count-Min Sketch can be used within such computations, by applying standard techniques for computing privacy preserving sums on each counter independently [15].
< 1371117411 61103 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1371118522 411078 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371119233 641470 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the norwegian seafood council wants to introduce a special swedish word for salmon from norway
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< 1371124035 557653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grumble grumble. "Editing (including deleting points) is not supported for this geometry type. Editing is only supported on lines and polygons."
< 1371124050 793710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently what I recorded with GPSLogger is a "tour" instead of a "line".
< 1371124269 818585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly a "track".
< 1371124278 324380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a "path" is a "line".
< 1371125453 198157 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@77.49.108.183.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371126226 88228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371126555 959620 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371128266 104866 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371132817 708428 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371133363 420955 :nooga_!~nooga@public716948.centertel.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371135109 989646 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371136456 145706 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371136718 830694 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaah
< 1371136801 837923 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I like the new lambdabot messagey thing
< 1371136823 707503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw
< 1371136825 87131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my doing
< 1371136858 820416 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-30.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott read that book or whatever
< 1371136949 85397 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :book??
< 1371137039 162677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the hott book
< 1371137044 460950 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting Bike to remind me to read it
< 1371137074 656831 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1371137085 733738 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have a hott book but maybe i should get one
< 1371137108 344454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: https://github.com/HoTT/book
< 1371137111 367048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a "work in progress" aiui
< 1371137142 908681 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll put it on my list
< 1371137380 531121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll put it on two lists, which I'll then immediately delete.
< 1371138206 752976 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hott Book
< 1371138331 89453 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371138402 167816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike already did that one nodl
< 1371138758 439282 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the weather in hexham now?
< 1371138824 137000 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pleasantly warm
< 1371138827 721891 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT
< 1371138838 947738 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1371138846 686255 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was raining at lunchtime, though
< 1371138861 936839 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes its rainy but warm here too
< 1371138874 206821 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :39°C next week
< 1371138884 75479 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If hagb4rd is in Prudhoe or something, I swear to god...
< 1371138929 998055 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should visit hexham
< 1371138931 247140 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then
< 1371138935 325015 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :visit neither of taneb/elliott
< 1371138955 449124 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't someone do that a couple of years ago
< 1371138956 223783 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well
< 1371138961 690194 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People probably do that all the time
< 1371138965 583641 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But someone in this channel
< 1371138973 845178 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan or fizzie or someone
< 1371139003 891991 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should organize an #esoteric meetup
< 1371139013 281206 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where nobody actually meets up
< 1371139019 523008 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just all somewhere in hexham
< 1371139301 27783 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds dangerous
< 1371139311 118564 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if someone actually meets up
< 1371139314 671711 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the command to calculate Celsius to Fahrenheit?
< 1371139328 662876 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sanetemp 0
< 1371139330 974138 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: sanetemp: not found
< 1371139333 231955 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that
< 1371139336 18462 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : `frink ?
< 1371139349 980309 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then?
< 1371139358 293150 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 100 celsius -> fahrenheit
< 1371139367 43275 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "celsius". \ Unknown symbol "fahrenheit" \ Warning: undefined symbol "celsius". \ Warning: undefined symbol "fahrenheit". \ Unconvertable expression: \   100 celsius (undefined symbol) -> fahrenheit (undefined symbol)
< 1371139372 103144 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 100 degrees celsius -> fahrenheit
< 1371139377 143138 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371139378 827570 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "celsius". \ Unknown symbol "fahrenheit" \ Warning: undefined symbol "celsius". \ Warning: undefined symbol "fahrenheit". \ Unconvertable expression: \   1.7453292519943295767 celsius (undefined symbol) -> fahrenheit (undefined symbol)
< 1371139394 480340 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to sleep
< 1371139396 245829 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371139560 768338 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder: do you english folks use celsius fahrenheit or kelvin or what?
< 1371139663 899311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use celsius
< 1371139680 983407 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it's common in UK?
< 1371139791 716939 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 100 * 9 / 5 + 32
< 1371139792 596421 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  212.0
< 1371139794 992068 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTH
< 1371139800 618945 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: no, just elliott
< 1371139836 650023 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx coppro.. i see
< 1371142591 994593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They measure in Réaumur.
< 1371142681 221228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130613-reaumur.jpg -- as seen in a park few days back.
< 1371142753 889244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was in Switzerland, though almost in Italy.)
< 1371142792 549183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, it's kind of hard to make out the label, but that's what it is.)
< 1371142888 54578 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google  Réaumur
< 1371142888 816074 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9aumur_scale
< 1371142888 897040 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Réaumur scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
< 1371142957 393519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Its only modern use is in the measuring of milk temperature in cheese production."  Weird stuff.
< 1371143001 3492 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird indeed
< 1371143054 799180 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did we work out the answers to itsy's riddle?
< 1371143088 542416 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have given it a shot but i didn't have any time
< 1371143246 458999 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1371143382 248871 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got it but I can't remember how I got it
< 1371143706 275104 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1371145575 192600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss imagine Holmes as, well, the Doctor, somehow a central figure in the battle between good and evil even if they can't quite articulate why or how." i am so glad i found this blog
< 1371145729 872103 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what blog?
< 1371146128 50012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit, Elementary actually sounds good
< 1371146227 22986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i keep meaning to watch it if only for the malbolge
< 1371146238 147592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well, and also to piss off people who complain it's a ripoff of the bbc sherlock
< 1371146262 949981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds better than bbc sherlock; frankly i'm gobsmacked
< 1371146291 63937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: does it really surprise you that something could be better than a moffat show
< 1371146368 815138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude it's an american modernisation of a british classic
< 1371146376 671709 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that really not fill you with foreboding
< 1371146406 12137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, admittedly
< 1371146810 72010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in early episodes they tried too hard to appeal to the shippers
< 1371146833 542596 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you... watch elementary?
< 1371146846 365805 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On occasion, not every episode
< 1371146847 786883 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact
< 1371146852 698698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About three episodes
< 1371147394 301171 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371147401 874538 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1371147422 772389 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1371147426 88253 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome disadep 
< 1371147428 990693 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :disadep: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371147449 702083 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came here from wiki 
< 1371147456 249253 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1371147494 731361 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1371147496 155740 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I became interested in esoteric languages recently
< 1371147525 717538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh?
< 1371147626 247423 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even created one
< 1371147636 230284 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was wondering if it's Turing-complete
< 1371147651 740631 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a good way to find out if it really is?
< 1371147693 131982 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371147798 435075 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a knack to it
< 1371147811 118617 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DL?
< 1371147840 576729 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371147878 550487 :disadep!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 NICK :disaderp
< 1371147953 495621 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that is Turing complete. Is the full spec online anywhere?
< 1371147976 727555 :disaderp!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute
< 1371148039 552358 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider http://esolangs.org/wiki/Computational_class#Proofs_of_computational_class
< 1371148043 365223 :disaderp!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is the list of avaliable functions: http://pastebin.com/7PMHWQJh
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< 1371148424 924791 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disaderp: have you defined any comparison operators?
< 1371148456 19919 :disaderp!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a function Cmp() that compares two ints or two bools
< 1371148463 826436 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-5d81f0e6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1371148531 103594 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1371148632 222647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-hacks/2013-June/000552.html
< 1371148733 636221 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371148776 705587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: disgusting. great
< 1371149229 518478 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zalgo "hi"
< 1371149260 929338 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371149275 409363 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "hi" | zalgo
< 1371149277 288248 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :h̞͐iͤ͘
< 1371149337 456333 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "hi" | zalgo | zalgo | zalgo
< 1371149340 254113 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ḩ̬̰̘̀็i͙̹ͬ̄͝͡
< 1371149996 436543 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A knot diagram can be interpreted as a network of resistors, where each crossing is a resistor with resistance either 1 or -1.
< 1371150019 669280 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the Reidemeister moves are all valid ways of rewriting a resistor network.
< 1371150168 343330 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifcally: adding a resistor between an existing node and a new node (R1), adding a resistor between a node and itself (R1), replacing a node with three nodes connected by resistors of resistance 1 and -1 in series (R2), adding resistors of resistance 1 and -1 in parallel to any gap (R2), and the wye-delta transform (R3), and the reverse of all these.
< 1371150519 261344 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conversely, any planar resistor network where resistors have resistance 1 and -1 can be interpreted as a knot diagram.
< 1371150624 22585 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371150667 381888 :disaderp!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g
< 1371150668 530435 :disaderp!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1371150678 149608 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adi(o with acute accent)s.
< 1371150686 676849 :disaderp!5be187fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.225.135.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1371150736 681266 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not obvious what it means for two resistor networks to be equivalent.
< 1371151000 543533 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371151046 828570 :esimmers!~esimmers@68.62-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371151056 699825 :esimmers!~esimmers@68.62-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help Your country get to the top in the virtual world of E-sim. Become a businessman, military leader or a mighty president. Join for FREE now: http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.3355/
< 1371151056 913370 :esimmers!~esimmers@68.62-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PART :#esoteric
< 1371151081 710151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this channel like a hot hangout now
< 1371151095 103265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help your country get k-lined
< 1371151173 603541 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, can you think of anywhere in Hexham that prints designs onto T-shirts?
< 1371151180 186750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1371151187 775462 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corbridge?
< 1371151200 260241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1371151202 617007 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371151203 842048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there a cheapass way to do it yourself
< 1371151215 158895 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, you need some fancy paper which I can't find
< 1371151297 508703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thomsonlocal.com/Screen%20printers/in/Hexham/ it appears the answer is no
< 1371151314 13496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the almighty
< 1371151316 375254 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1371151383 973494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric must have finally "made it" to be noticed by freenode spammers.
< 1371151407 564249 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray!
< 1371151447 930643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably that wsj piece that's coming any day now
< 1371151480 981964 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :retroactively attracting spam
< 1371151484 462436 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wsj's powers are great
< 1371151542 311708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google esoteric wall street journal
< 1371151543 826471 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204517204577046381261300406.html
< 1371151543 923926 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Test for Bonds Backed by Esoteric Assets - WSJ.com
< 1371151564 263954 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371151565 297801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel: full of assets.
< 1371151578 272213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other things starting with "ass".
< 1371151587 643386 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assassins
< 1371151594 408531 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assailants
< 1371151600 376044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assyrians.
< 1371151600 647265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bro are you esoteric 'cos i have a turkey baster and you have... assets... yes
< 1371151643 89864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371152109 419136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so um.   this really isn't #esoteric material but (I guess C++ is kind of esoteric <.<)    if I have an Apple class and a Banana class and both classes contain functions that reference each other, how do I do a forward class declaration so that I don't get undeclared Banana messages?
< 1371152169 48232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does just "class Banana;" work or is there something more elaborate I'm missing?
< 1371152234 849856 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, maybe that would?  I have no idea, I am terrible at this
< 1371152288 5183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, nobody has yet figured out how to not be terrible at C++
< 1371152323 848555 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it works, thanks
< 1371152340 561875 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the programming ethos: just guess and hope it works (it does) (sometimes)
< 1371152383 556555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Undeclared Banana messages | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric | SEUTA KEULAEPEUTEU | nid wyf yn y swyddfa
< 1371152400 275325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that underhanded thing still ongoing?
< 1371152413 472767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: :)
< 1371152470 176275 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "the deadline is July 4th"
< 1371152494 620211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo you should read this homotopy type theory book for me
< 1371152506 65808 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm w/ that guy
< 1371152593 440618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is homotopy type theory actually consistent the little i've noticed about makes it look like it declares almost everything equal
< 1371152602 543827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*about it
< 1371152642 643881 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :two equals three, up equals down, anarchy reigns. such is life under homotopy
< 1371152658 404812 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi NICK :atehwa
< 1371152781 316149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it declares identity and equivalence equal
< 1371152790 104375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is, an isomorphism between A and B implies equality of A and B
< 1371152803 838263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the conjecture is that the resulting system is still computable.
< 1371152816 597934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where A and B are types, of course)
< 1371152817 694313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess that just means working in a skeleton category, or something
< 1371152818 942153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :conjecture?
< 1371152826 514045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well the idea is to enrichen equality
< 1371152829 710857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than weakening isomorphism
< 1371152846 419093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, it's not been shown that you can always compute the equality substitutions using the axiom away
< 1371152856 648261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway this book is literally 500 pages.
< 1371152900 941078 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the axiom called 'away' i'm confused
< 1371152905 382641 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 500 pages supposed to be a lot
< 1371152934 294779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days i have trouble with 5
< 1371152935 307033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: as opposed to getting blocked on substitution of an equality using the univalence axiom
< 1371152944 216412 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right so beyond me
< 1371152944 532833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 500 pages is a lot.
< 1371153012 745956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i.e., a program can reduce to something like "rewrite foo : ...stuff involving A and its terms... to foo : ...stuff involving B and its terms... by univalence (...isomorphism between A and B...)"
< 1371153042 571680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not proven that you can always get "past" that rewrite to actually computing foo however it's defined, is my understanding.
< 1371153063 167889 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :livin on the edge
< 1371153127 580252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my new laptop is too cold for my lap :(
< 1371153178 400312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try compiling ghc hth
< 1371153250 780168 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :civilization 5 is really good at making mine overheat
< 1371153256 29643 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun too!  two birds
< 1371153279 243127 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :birds?
< 1371153285 169429 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ☺
< 1371153295 52664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you ever killed birds w/ stones
< 1371153302 169645 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wtf
< 1371153306 155976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would id
< 1371153312 861938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :analogies for people who are cruel to animals: imo the best analogies?
< 1371153320 137963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some kind of sicko british schoolboy thing
< 1371153325 569149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you got it
< 1371153331 398693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we... play civilisation 5
< 1371153335 876159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!!)
< 1371153349 545254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you don't have to use such analogies, there's more than one way to skin a cat
< 1371153350 532120 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disgusting
< 1371153354 69422 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eagerly awaits the new expansion

< 1371153362 337592 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw did you know the dutch expression is
< 1371153368 13923 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hit two flies with one swat"
< 1371153378 269584 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute
< 1371153390 299521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also the norwegian expression hth
< 1371153397 890615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, cruelty to birds /and/ bugs
< 1371153399 513714 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371153404 354071 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assholes
< 1371153426 100184 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:56 -!- ELLIOTTCABLE is now known as purr
< 1371153443 56073 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, is friendship mouse still about?
< 1371153470 812987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph became friendship mouse
< 1371153535 688856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371153541 265164 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this about civ 5
< 1371153558 849388 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-209-170.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves killing animals
< 1371153761 710189 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know ._.
< 1371153780 602954 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric civ 5 succession game
< 1371153948 254745 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh, succession games
< 1371153954 250404 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing lots of logs of those for civ 4, they looked really fun
< 1371153968 494702 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have civ 5 though :(
< 1371154410 197906 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371154444 287120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's only [an amount of money].
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< 1371154602 823748 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout
< 1371155050 334593 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
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< 1371156312 904684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what's New Foundations in this analogy <-- uniqueness types hth
< 1371156328 633278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i considered saying that
< 1371156359 403891 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, we do a Dwarf Fortress one
< 1371156366 399466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless elliott has lost it
< 1371157011 425811 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371157060 706782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mushroomexpert.com/lysurus_cruciatus.html squid mushroom
< 1371157166 289824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long did you spend weeping with joy before you linked that
< 1371157191 360457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not long
< 1371157546 690093 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No, you don't install things by typing 'sudo easy_install thing' into the Python REPL. Not only is that not a console, you're on Windows."
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< 1371158425 44749 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371158669 368710 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1371158671 338481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371158685 751687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing about the wii fit trainer being in the next super smash bros wasn't a joke?
< 1371158698 163433 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's awesome.
< 1371158709 60251 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a villager from Animal Crossing too.
< 1371158711 781095 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what to think any more
< 1371158732 680413 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that they'll go well with game and watch?
< 1371158761 33080 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :game and watch was funny because he was a one-off!
< 1371158774 149585 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't he in two games
< 1371158788 553262 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think he was in Melee and Brawl
< 1371158790 290640 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a TWo Off
< 1371158827 441981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there was rob as well
< 1371158842 503555 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pew pew
< 1371158848 594180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is just getting silly!
< 1371158871 815802 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude it's SSB
< 1371158881 513463 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the silliest
< 1371158887 805756 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371158889 781059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's getting so silly
< 1371158891 518892 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was playing Brawl this evening
< 1371158900 864576 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely changed my control scheme for the hell of it
< 1371158909 25516 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wii fit trainer is awesome
< 1371158911 704673 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSB tourney people are hilarious, on that note
< 1371158915 258762 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything about her is pretty great
< 1371158919 533911 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fox only, final destination, etc
< 1371158925 107495 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it means that now, super smash brothers has a 
< 1371158928 508703 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371158929 666015 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop
< 1371158933 909410 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION takes off her sunglasses

< 1371158936 621764 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :strong female character
< 1371158941 120179 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit is it even sunny where you are!
< 1371158949 792416 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm it is
< 1371158952 658090 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371158957 936342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :next in super smash bros: a generic mii
< 1371158959 837301 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's miserable here, i, just kind of assumed
< 1371158966 500964 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're actually allowing miis in the next version?  
< 1371158967 287220 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1371158970 798309 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, as someone who's actually participated in a SSBB tournament, I managed to convince them to play random stage
< 1371158979 922133 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it pretty much lost me the final
< 1371158979 994176 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you win
< 1371158984 30662 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loer
< 1371158985 526379 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s
< 1371158987 94722 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever
< 1371158992 41146 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, what about Samus
< 1371159002 149378 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke <.<
< 1371159020 833224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about nana
< 1371159022 564970 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.>
< 1371159027 794458 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT ABOUT PIKACHU
< 1371159038 828402 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but um like.  really the wii fit trainer makes gaming dudebros angry so it's probably a good thing
< 1371159077 543445 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, are you getting all the "villager will behead you without a second thought" stuff on Tumblr
< 1371159091 558140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's such a weird thing to be pissed about, I mean Brawl had a pictochat level
< 1371159099 106218 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :super serious
< 1371159112 732113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk, it does... feel kind of different?
< 1371159137 577763 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371159137 782375 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: all the stuff about the villager is wonderful
< 1371159141 648305 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as a fan of animal crossing
< 1371159155 88584 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it true that his final smash involves weeding
< 1371159155 193186 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like oh gosh the digging pits to catch your opponents
< 1371159156 534016 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of it might be that i never really thought of wii fit as a 'game', more of as an appliance or something
< 1371159169 685257 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dance dance revolution is a game, right?
< 1371159171 335945 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, they already had an item for that didn't they
< 1371159172 801567 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-176.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike pictochat
< 1371159219 582983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i give more leeway for stages, then?
< 1371159489 745907 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: GOODNIGHT
< 1371160049 327096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan:
< 1371160061 271763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given this discussion of adding new principles such as univalence, higher inductive types, AC, and LEM, one may wonder whether the resulting system remains consistent. (One of the original virtues of type theory, relative to set theory, was that it can be seen to be consistent by proof-theoretic means).
< 1371160068 512882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As with any foundational system, consistency is a relative ques- tion: “consistent with respect to what?” The short answer is that all of the constructions and axioms considered in this book have a model in the category of Kan complexes, due to Voevod- sky [KLV12] (see [LS13b] for higher inductive types).
< 1371160075 487018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, they are known to be consistent relative to ZFC (with as many inaccessible cardinals as we need nested univalent universes). Giving a more traditionally type-theoretic account of this consistency is work in progress (see, e.g., [LH12, BCH13]).
< 1371160532 43485 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371160576 92910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also, the exact form of what's unknown: "Voevodsky has formulated a precise mathematical conjecture connected to this question of canonicity for type theory extended with the axiom of Univalence: given a closed term of the type of natural numbers, is it always possible to find a numeral and a proof that this term is equal to this numeral, where this proof of equality may itself use the univalence axiom?"
< 1371160582 123523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may have got cut off
< 1371160734 254041 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didnt
< 1371160738 891753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
< 1371160800 72140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's miserable here, i, just kind of assumed <-- i think Fiora is in california hth
< 1371160944 928909 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone here used Actual pictochat
< 1371160953 696254 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was very good it had some good emoticons
< 1371160964 644433 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember: a happy square, a sad square
< 1371160969 350679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have
< 1371160975 972024 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i used ms comic chat in wine and it barely worked but i cant seem to get it to work anymore
< 1371160981 726130 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sunny is miserable though :<
< 1371160982 110269 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you could like
< 1371160983 919911 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather it be cloudy
< 1371161009 602573 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type a happy face, press send, then type a sad face, then copy your previous message
< 1371161020 361254 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'd start "layering" emoticons and they'd get Amazing
< 1371161153 955501 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds good
< 1371161183 118680 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the 3ds even have pictochat ?????
< 1371161197 416251 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow no
< 1371161213 467954 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a chat thing where you can draw messages and send them to each other
< 1371161223 679675 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Pictochat.png bottom left corner: the happy face
< 1371161236 411666 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, Swapnote
< 1371161239 917866 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's what it was called
< 1371161310 162965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: one person talking to themselves about wikipedia
< 1371161312 430461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the saddest pictochat
< 1371161322 808051 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :(
< 1371161391 951452 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, did it have 3d pictochat
< 1371161394 727079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be a thing
< 1371161398 408655 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sculptochat?)
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< 1371161741 975691 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like it'd be really hard to use
< 1371161984 317153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d pictochat!
< 1371161986 151058 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be pretty good
< 1371162011 341157 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drawing on an xy plane, two buttons control the z axis
< 1371162038 808934 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do I imagine this would be used almost entirely for sculpting, um.  obscene things
< 1371162039 863953 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you'd draw a thing, hold the down button for a while, then draw anothing thing! and one would be behind the other
< 1371162043 174468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo 3d pictochat hooked up to a 3d printer
< 1371162046 651020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a 3d scanner
< 1371162050 300177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you actually sculpt something and send it over
< 1371162069 139580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then people us it for guns
< 1371162114 929162 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP
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< 1371162132 894348 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about cute things like nendoroids
< 1371162134 562705 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guns aren't very cute
< 1371162145 389258 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you made it like some kind of glassblowing simulator
< 1371162152 555895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would pay actual money for that
< 1371162155 705407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds good
< 1371162170 687073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: takes skill to make a penis
< 1371162192 344533 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure they're willing to learn
< 1371162213 398558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to study at the academy of penis blowing
< 1371162255 44447 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I hear it's very popular among young men these days
< 1371162290 838296 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glassblowing? huh
< 1371162341 889972 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's good money.....high demand for glass penises????
< 1371162437 383081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey everyone has seen glass klein bottles rite
< 1371162452 933469 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen a real one
< 1371162458 550913 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of this lousy self-intersecting shit
< 1371162486 79353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that the guy who runs that klein bottle site is also the guy who tracked down that german hacker in the 80s?
< 1371162495 783511 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which german hacker
< 1371162500 308279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hess
< 1371162553 16306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well,
< 1371162553 361187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
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< 1371162693 440086 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeobot?
< 1371162696 780664 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371162710 220045 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've actually been talking to sgeobot for years
< 1371163066 713608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah i think his new employed just cyborgized him
< 1371163071 350043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*employer
< 1371163107 337520 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo's moving up in the world
< 1371163213 852026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon he'll be involved in dramatic battles between good and evil. we are not yet sure on which side.
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< 1371164213 460979 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.theonion.com/articles/advanced-alien-civilization-discovers-uninhabitabl,32808/
< 1371164330 123664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that old canard
< 1371164405 530684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: heh
< 1371164537 284767 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1371164554 944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh. that quote is still around
< 1371164594 194147 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do if you have brown eyes
< 1371164628 371227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Fiora
< 1371164630 76152 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :820)  omg   that JIT is really amazing [...]  I hear if you listen carefully to the rustling wind on a warm night with a full moon, you can hear the sound of the JIT building ARM functions. \ 830)  usb sushi is dangerous.  I think I would try to eat it \ 958)  Sgeo_, are you just trying to post kmcbait..
< 1371164639 49319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you have a lot of quotes
< 1371164676 337707 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently?
< 1371164687 768623 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"his eyes like normal brown-ish stones"
< 1371164705 472054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"her eyes like normal brown-ish stones" // actually me
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< 1371165035 423528 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so how's that axiomy thingy work with richardson's theorem; also why is it "numeral"; also there's no chance in hell i'll understand anything
< 1371165106 125096 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: global warming is just depress ing
< 1371165193 790904 :noooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 QUIT :Quit: noooodl
< 1371165204 963504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't see the relation to richardson's theorem
< 1371165215 444391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :richardson's theorem is about decidability
< 1371165236 383096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's numeral because expressions of the form e ::= 0 | S e are the normal form values of type nat
< 1371165251 42664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can turn any finite amount of "things computed" into something of type nat
< 1371165257 182806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a reasonable choice for stating the property
< 1371165263 549145 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well isn't it about proving a closed form is equal to a number
< 1371165322 572293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I (you can't prove that) (crack isn't fake)
< 1371165328 918106 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371165351 625667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well you can prove any term of type nat in normal regular type theory has a numeral and a proof that the term is equal to that numeral
< 1371165372 995709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you evaluate the term, it results in a numeral, and then the proof is obvious
< 1371165378 605114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it reduces to the numeral; q.e.d."
< 1371165410 215696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sad that i'm trying to figure out if "normal regular" is a technical term
< 1371165418 705238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't
< 1371165422 170120 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know
< 1371165427 10556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371165458 119100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're thinking of standard normal hth
< 1371165558 122093 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so like, there's this problem of "given 2 21x21 matrices with integer elements, is it possible to multiply them in some order (with repetition if you want) to achieve the zero matrix"
< 1371165577 203365 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently um. this isn't even like EXPTIME or something.  it's undecidable
< 1371165602 451465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah matrix mortality right
< 1371165615 156686 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you only needed 13x13
< 1371165620 376160 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow linear operators
< 1371165620 776230 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :02l03i04n05e06a07r08 09o02p03e04r05a06t07o08r09s
< 1371165648 593133 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this paper says 7x 3x3 or 2x 21x21
< 1371165655 189807 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1371165659 585275 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, integers make everything harder
< 1371165660 351986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: god, i hate magic numbers like that
< 1371165661 659403 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a fact
< 1371165666 505383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it all works for a bit and then collapses
< 1371165674 606773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't even get harder, just gets impossible
< 1371165682 677814 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible is harder than possible
< 1371165683 368059 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo
< 1371165714 712627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey was Fiora around when a wall street journalist came here to interview chris pressey
< 1371165718 822765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never forget.
< 1371165719 582687 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow there are two other problems about atrices that are undecideable.
< 1371165722 288212 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O?
< 1371165727 908190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear i'm not making that up
< 1371165731 100766 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Determining whether a finite set of upper triangular 3 × 3 matrices with nonnegative integer entries generates a free semigroup." "Determining whether two finitely generated subsemigroups of M_n(Z) have a common element."
< 1371165733 122008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also asked like two questions about hexham
< 1371165736 789977 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subsemigroups, that's just beautiful.
< 1371165736 996875 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea who that is?

< 1371165747 723037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey is elliott's religion
< 1371165748 412859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know who chris pressey is...
< 1371165749 189171 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez "post correspondence problem"
< 1371165752 628147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he founded the site or whatever
< 1371165753 411045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chris pressey is the guy who made befunge and lots of other esoteric languages, he used to be here a lot but now he isn't
< 1371165757 735806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he came back to do this interview
< 1371165761 244662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cpressey
< 1371165761 722278 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's named after Post! it's not to do with letters i hate that
< 1371165763 174895 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey invented the esolang, the pipe cleaner and the electrical mouse.
< 1371165782 992617 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: btw Post only had one arm. i like pointing this out because it's an odd little thing
< 1371165786 917079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@
< 1371165787 27086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he didn't start the wiki or anything (esolangs are way older than the wiki)
< 1371165796 485376 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh.  I think this problem makes sense now
< 1371165796 692458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i know that much)
< 1371165799 639876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he popularised the term "esoteric" as it pertains to computing I believe
< 1371165804 24269 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be EXPTIME because the lists on either side can grow without bound
< 1371165813 66297 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh that is an evil problem
< 1371165832 696709 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my favorite undecideable problem is just the word problem for groups
< 1371165837 691095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice'n'easy to understand
< 1371165843 212882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it kind of intuitively makes sense that the matrix problem is kind of like the post corresopndance one
< 1371165854 746551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: mine is equality of functions
< 1371165854 822959 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"matrices are weird, and Post was weird, so..."
< 1371165861 526510 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the word problem again
< 1371165861 683155 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: too obvious
< 1371165868 394827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not very obvious!
< 1371165873 462225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people think you can compare functions all the time
< 1371165874 810106 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ... easy? >_<
< 1371165897 351237 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: figuring out if two expressions of group operations represent the same element
< 1371165920 382826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously it's decideable for some groups)
< 1371165935 725380 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what can i say i like groups
< 1371165938 833041 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"two expressions of group operations" o_O
< 1371165941 301056 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite groups
< 1371165946 329602 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance
< 1371165953 213863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite is that one with matrices
< 1371165983 109932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The mortal matrix problem: determining, given a finite set of n � n matrices with integer entries, whether they can be multiplied in some order, possibly with repetition, to yield the zero matrix."
< 1371165986 100192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say Bike is a groupie
< 1371166001 938714 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the one that started this conversation
< 1371166006 491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371166009 362581 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry     I guess I don't really get the group thing
< 1371166013 885666 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone suggest anything else then
< 1371166038 580586 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: like, does a*b*c = b*a*c or somethin
< 1371166060 609532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: so you can describe a group as a set of generating elements + a set of relations that can simplify expressions
< 1371166063 696762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentation_of_a_group
< 1371166070 206810 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wait, why would that be undecideable
< 1371166079 276341 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, it's not, for finite groups
< 1371166094 283143 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: because everything is terrible.
< 1371166096 747924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bunch of other ones
< 1371166097 78083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the word problem is like 'can we transform this word into that word using these relations'
< 1371166103 767070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or transform them both into the same word, anyway
< 1371166112 315673 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is completely lost

< 1371166146 707831 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok
< 1371166155 660701 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like a billion undecideable problems to choose from
< 1371166164 315062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that you can't do it for all groups ever (but it might be easy to do it for a particular group)
< 1371166169 325031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.b. i don't really undersatnd the word problem either
< 1371166177 124016 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note that all the groups with undecidable word problems wp cites seem to be only remarkable for having unsolvable word problems
< 1371166189 946893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah
< 1371166209 629778 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do you construct a set of matrices you can't multiplicate together
< 1371166222 604606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is the mortal matrix thing just a special case of the word problem???
< 1371166229 194501 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371166238 779689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess not
< 1371166261 53819 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371166274 143588 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/3/a/53add5b1c27847ffeeee892cfedb4984.png o____o
< 1371166285 94871 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: welcome 2 math
< 1371166291 203253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what i was saying
< 1371166317 461176 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371166366 666571 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a silly looking presentation
< 1371166382 313157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :group theory isn't math hth
< 1371166383 399549 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, if you have your matrices can't you make a group with them as the generatotrs
< 1371166401 876623 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ?????????
< 1371166422 971946 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that confusing
< 1371166424 872346 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can take the free group over a set of matrices but that's just stupid
< 1371166427 316982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, no
< 1371166430 661572 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because youre not using the matrices at all
< 1371166436 406820 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're not necessarily invertible
< 1371166438 192463 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> probe money
< 1371166438 264560 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** ERROR
< 1371166438 264721 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :** Script error: money has no value
< 1371166444 850026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: don't you tell me my free groups are stupid!!
< 1371166446 335365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371166457 26645 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(After I poked fun at $6 / $2 being $3)
< 1371166465 925882 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: o rite
< 1371166487 803830 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the matrices are invertible can you solve the mortality problem
< 1371166502 722190 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes: "theres no solution"
< 1371166508 204252 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc invertible matrices never multiply to 0
< 1371166527 424795 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371166618 172455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of algebraic structure do yo uneed to solve the morality problem
< 1371166639 218069 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :epigenetics
< 1371167230 158312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1371167306 185437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Track the status of your shipments, nickname your packages, create a personal watch list, and filter shipments to see the details you want. It’s an all-new tracking experience.
< 1371167337 507222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it celebrate anything
< 1371167359 176853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :celebrates shipmanship
< 1371167360 955110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trackmanship
< 1371167367 121917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1371167412 490146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ship name: Rosemary   Watchlist: Yes   Ship status: Canon
< 1371167427 845318 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many canon are on that ship
< 1371167451 838803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fedex called me to say i'd have to be there for signing for a thing but i could change things via the tracking number
< 1371167452 964244 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ship contents: Kanaya Maryam, Rose LaLonde  Status: Drunk
< 1371167464 670737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a couple of the tracking number digits were cut off by bad reception or something
< 1371167475 912075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that
< 1371167502 527312 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that
< 1371167506 776664 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, kmc, that putin story
< 1371167517 383382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what putin story
< 1371167566 604149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he started his own party apparently
< 1371167575 312496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that one
< 1371167577 61766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/13/vladimir-putin-defends-the-u-s-on-spying-programs-drones-and-occupy-wall-street/
< 1371167584 32119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one
< 1371167642 885636 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :news on twitter is weird. guy says WH announcement re: syria is unimportant compared to the jihad
< 1371167671 439621 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db43bc7.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371167684 64429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what announcement did i miss
< 1371167688 105478 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like wonderful marketing material.
< 1371167690 505201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U.S. to increase 'scope and scale' of aid to rebels
< 1371167692 21461 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PRISM: endorsed by putin"
< 1371167715 386571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's putin-tastic
< 1371167720 314993 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the white house said they'd step up aid, and also a bunch of important clerics declared jihad on the syrian government.
< 1371167799 495393 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, i wonder if this is some brilliant gambit by putin
< 1371167862 632361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he need gambits
< 1371167863 619752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ha HA! now the government will be forced to roll back the police state from Russian levels! IT WILL BE THEIR DOOM!"
< 1371167869 468086 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.b. i assume putin is a comic book villain
< 1371167879 989936 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, maybe?
< 1371167888 519776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well can't he pretty much do whatever the hell he likes
< 1371167892 545667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when does america care what foreigners think of our government
< 1371167918 604702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we're being praised by the wrong foreigners
< 1371168055 118568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/wopot/jsgifkeylogger/blob/master/gifjs.asm  cute but I don't totally see the security relevance
< 1371168067 782137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do like the use of assembler to build binary files that aren't machine code at all
< 1371168109 374193 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, it's not instructions
< 1371168142 627878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is only for tests.
< 1371168150 906761 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the misspelling
< 1371168164 396273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wehre
< 1371168167 28870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*where
< 1371168177 592067 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heigth; also, good
< 1371168212 374684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was mistake
< 1371168224 350542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, too, was mistake once
< 1371168275 523550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it could be used to exploit sites with a very specific combination of file uploading, restricted user-specified HTML, and path and URL whitelisting
< 1371168285 554967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a combination that doesn't seem very likely to come up in practice
< 1371168289 847876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I'm missing something
< 1371168293 513744 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything's possible online, right
< 1371168445 448448 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that reminds me of the thing a while back where I tried one of those "smallest possible executable" things
< 1371168453 480184 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone had posted their own attempt so I spent a few hours poking at it and trying things
< 1371168460 589248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun laying out the ELF header manually 
< 1371168462 349048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"turns out you can get linux to execute a negative amount of bytes"
< 1371168469 295490 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff XD
< 1371168479 112948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1371168482 81176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you can exploit a filesystem bug like that
< 1371168487 425884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if they used signed types accidentally
< 1371168493 577146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can convince it you have a -1 byte file
< 1371168493 686429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's remotely convenient to write a bitstream using an assembler, though
< 1371168502 444760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll read backwards because of the way they wrote their loop or something
< 1371168503 465346 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like writing bytes is just "db whatever" and so on
< 1371168507 377903 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, a bitstream would be trickier
< 1371168507 449872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can store the file contents in the metadata
< 1371168517 819883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo someone should make this happen
< 1371168521 553500 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh I'm thinking of writing a variable-length coder in yasm macros someone -stop me-
< 1371168526 436901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1371168531 528108 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares impassively

< 1371168540 979691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will not stand in the way of this
< 1371168574 894672 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Can I ask why?
< 1371168576 976136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: at least you're in the right channel
< 1371168581 612755 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind, this is probably awesome.
< 1371168587 373716 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1371168618 455838 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um.   because like, the gif thing above
< 1371168623 639890 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea of laying out a file in an assembler, right?
< 1371168637 437947 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, assemblers only let you write bytes, not bits, usually
< 1371168637 542165 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Hah.
< 1371168644 587104 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I think?  I might be wrong
< 1371168659 88145 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is an amusing way of distributing a binary.
< 1371168719 631830 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasm lets you use binary literals.
< 1371169039 538664 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amusing thought: you could actually have a GPL-compliant program distributed only as a binary.
< 1371169047 238283 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you actually wrote it that way.
< 1371169050 279757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: in nasm, %assign (etc) should be enough to let you write bitwise macros that output bytes as you go along
< 1371169279 68460 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371169284 936158 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: in any case, do it
< 1371169444 719656 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://privatepaste.com/094d840fe8   okay I have no idea if this is right   but it runs   and the first 4 hex digits seem to be right I think
< 1371169473 260519 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Nice*.
< 1371169519 871106 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez.  now I'm imagining someone, like, writing a JPEG compressor in nasm macros
< 1371169558 100900 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably faaar beyond me though <.<)
< 1371169634 691700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is fantastic
< 1371169819 819903 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it only handles codes up to 32 bits long
< 1371169831 436365 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I have no idea how nasm represents variables
< 1371169840 973697 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like    gosh what happens when you try to calculate something bigger than int_max
< 1371169847 212864 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371169869 174530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371169877 9555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out it just uses GMP
< 1371169879 219500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for speed"
< 1371169959 53741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh it is actual bignums
< 1371169972 143940 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, (200000000000000000000000000000<<1) does resolve to 400000000000000000000000000000
< 1371169978 846048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow.
< 1371169985 596435 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what to believe any more
< 1371169999 372990 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1238273829327893192*973289472384729384729348923 resolves to  1205198882014363608197849789575338441444232216
< 1371170008 731041 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am kind of um.  wow
< 1371170037 265519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1238273829327893192*973289472384729384729348923 == 1205198882014363608197849789575338441444232216
< 1371170038 99363 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  True
< 1371170043 787618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't it use bignums?
< 1371170054 272292 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh
< 1371170060 77095 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works in yasm
< 1371170061 322340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in nasm
< 1371170068 773469 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nasm it overflows and complains that my big constsant thing won't fit in 64 bits
< 1371170070 458463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the reason nasm isn't cross-platform or sth
< 1371170071 947840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in yasm it works okay
< 1371170074 936195 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait i'm thinking of floats
< 1371170087 347135 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is super weird
< 1371170202 796325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on with those integers there i don't understand
< 1371170223 949016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in yasm it just kind of does what you'd expect and works     in nasm it overflows ?
< 1371170252 174759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i missed the multiplication.
< 1371170468 115195 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371170541 284355 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION peeeeers at the code, grepgregperpegrep

< 1371170545 193049 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct yasm_intnum {
< 1371170545 322672 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :    union val {
< 1371170545 394390 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :        long l;                 /* integer value (for integers <32 bits) */
< 1371170545 394597 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :        wordptr bv;             /* bit vector (for integers >=32 bits) */
< 1371170545 394705 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :    } val;
< 1371170547 703052 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :    enum { INTNUM_L, INTNUM_BV } type;
< 1371170550 220201 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :};
< 1371170552 679148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow.
< 1371170553 47834 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371170554 972095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371170562 907441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yasm, scales to 1024-bit cpus
< 1371170563 844563 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371170572 625237 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a wordptr
< 1371170584 153060 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uint32_t*
< 1371170594 215430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregperp
< 1371170602 51109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. wouldn't that be a vector of words
< 1371170609 10745 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :("whatever")
< 1371170616 355917 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://guest.engelschall.com/~sb/download/  and it uses this thing for bignum math?
< 1371170621 758700 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or um, the thing labelled bit-vector
< 1371170622 782403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedefs of pointers are the devil hth :'(
< 1371170629 523307 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually, it might be a vector of "words" in the x86 sense.
< 1371170635 432190 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making that a uint16_t*
< 1371170651 793046 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The use of a camel in combination with Perl and Perl-related topics
< 1371170652 735902 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
< 1371170653 811131 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny that the system word on my system is a "quad word".
< 1371170693 804087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Intelese and/or Microsoftese for you.
< 1371170695 649418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, so how's it know how many words it's using.
< 1371170712 359322 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ... :(
< 1371170721 614173 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many bytey things.
< 1371170726 92560 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not good with computers sorry
< 1371170733 595178 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the first word is a count?
< 1371170746 965519 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Intelese really.
< 1371170754 925829 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pointer to a Bit-Vector object, I think
< 1371170756 541156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: could be 0 terminated
< 1371170757 681132 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit-vector is a library
< 1371170759 420552 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And really makes sense from a legacy point of view.
< 1371170762 388048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok
< 1371170764 24824 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more like a single c file apparently @_@
< 1371170775 500145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's c libraries for you
< 1371170781 180884 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 asm is for a system with a 16-bit word.
< 1371170788 30624 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing the author didn't want any dependencies for yasm?  still wow
< 1371170794 22015 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not like naïve bignums are hard right
< 1371170803 945717 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how often do bignums come up in macroassembly
< 1371170811 180967 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Merely tedious if you don't care much about performance.
< 1371170812 121631 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I have no idea  @_@
< 1371170819 905206 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I ever touched them before this
< 1371170827 815742 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm probably not like a good sample or anything
< 1371170829 753136 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the algorithms i learned in elementary school are good enough for my PC, dammit!
< 1371170830 830689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :naıve bignums
< 1371170844 18319 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: maybe they come up in intermediate results and you don't notice.
< 1371170851 34351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might bother me now
< 1371170875 949160 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it'd break on nasm
< 1371170894 227902 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right?
< 1371170896 423222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :intel syntax is weird
< 1371170904 604905 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i guess it would.
< 1371170917 584427 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw wouldn't 0 terminated be pretty bad for bignums since most of the algorithms go right to left
< 1371170934 445867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 initiated.......................
< 1371170935 694029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could store them backwards.
< 1371170949 51030 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 terminated?
< 1371170954 470660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for bignums
< 1371170963 766024 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 terminated would be awful.
< 1371170971 130125 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And probably unworkable.
< 1371170999 120139 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as 32 0b0s in a row is quite reasonable for sufficiently large numbers.
< 1371171011 715548 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i didn't even think of that wtf
< 1371171030 639967 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, switching to BCD won't help there.
< 1371171038 685119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exactly what i was thinking"
< 1371171043 720611 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. Actually, 8 bits per digit BCD works just fine. :P
< 1371171058 613496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the idea is you increment by one
< 1371171059 944554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wordptr is unsigned int * btw
< 1371171062 11477 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just write numbers in unary
< 1371171066 167091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just reserve one bit as a tag bit or w/e
< 1371171073 739621 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, at that point you might as well use ASCII. :P
< 1371171086 247796 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII: best bignum format?
< 1371171107 320037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-32 is better
< 1371171119 868402 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, a use for COMBINING CYRILLIC MILLIONS
< 1371171137 991599 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of how intel added an example code bit in their new optimization manual for converting 64-bit integers into base 10 (for like, printf)
< 1371171205 398108 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more sophisticated than mod by 10, i assume
< 1371171235 148858 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using avx2 and stuff
< 1371171252 908116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :convert between bases in O(1) time!!
< 1371171262 298429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The AVX2 version of numeric conversion across the dynamic range of 3/9/17 output digits are approximately 23/57/54 cycles per input, compared to standard library implement ion’s range of 85/260/560 cycles per input."
< 1371171271 233697 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geeeez
< 1371171298 9406 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn.
< 1371171307 692195 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're doing "vectorized montgomery reduction"
< 1371171365 59729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess, like, they're calculating (x%10),(x%100),(x%1000) and so on in simd?
< 1371171368 556872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something
< 1371171372 679713 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what montgomery reduction is
< 1371171424 415545 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In arithmetic computation, Montgomery reduction is an algorithm introduced in 1985 by Peter Montgomery that allows modular arithmetic to be performed efficiently when the modulus is large (typically several hundred bits).
< 1371171424 539122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"
< 1371171477 728856 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371171500 747756 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371171505 159819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is big
< 1371171533 654792 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty big
< 1371174156 409513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i saw a tree near my house that was like a whole ecosystem
< 1371174195 755895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tree, two different plants growing on the tree, moss, lichen, algae, tiny Mycena mushrooms, ants, red spider, snail, black spider weaving a web attached to the snail
< 1371174213 714833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a kmc
< 1371174225 516269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't 'on' the tree elliott
< 1371174268 559706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were all about being "on" the trees
< 1371174270 262017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you know what i mean
< 1371174273 64125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about drugz
< 1371174279 138347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the snail wasn't dead, just too slow for the spider to notice
< 1371174280 977386 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i was hoping dendrophilia
< 1371174283 149291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah ok
< 1371174291 61922 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snail defense mechanism
< 1371174313 425086 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the spider and snail have developed a mutualistic partnership, where the snail makes the web move approprirately
< 1371174313 505091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always drugz
< 1371174319 828020 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :snails are adorable
< 1371174324 872636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371174325 236685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cuteoverload.com/2009/02/18/junior-snailio/
< 1371174334 628901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
< 1371174349 742534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc why does terminal.app often think links include some of the timestamp on the next line
< 1371174354 292668 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my gosh that is so adorable
< 1371174355 78766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more generally lines contain multiple lines
< 1371174359 446007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then when i copy paste them the \ns are gone
< 1371174363 468258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/ mosh
< 1371174373 534944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know
< 1371174375 778066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put the sequent calculus of Turing machine: http://zzo38computer.org/tex/turing_sequent.tex Please tell me if there is a mistake.
< 1371174378 126908 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amusing when like, it rains here and all the snails come out, and you walk outside and find them all having sex or something
< 1371174380 42000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thmc
< 1371174386 342801 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that size difference
< 1371174389 409459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :('cause they're snails)
< 1371174401 230023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :horny sluts the lot
< 1371174402 776961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it rained today and there were lots of snails out
< 1371174404 703710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mushrooms
< 1371174420 248655 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was this really big snail crawling up the wall the other day like, actually really fast (for a snail)
< 1371174425 961851 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it would be a bad idea to link work stuff here once it's public
< 1371174429 67808 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was imagining it making cute little grunting noises each time it pushed up
< 1371174431 856054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we saw some of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidulariaceae
< 1371174440 629067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only they were smaller and yellower
< 1371174441 918415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: haha
< 1371174464 112408 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how they climb, like, just as fast as they crawl horizontally
< 1371174484 781019 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also this one snail that lives on the wall outside my door.  she wakes up every time the sun hits and moves a little bit to the side to stay in the shade
< 1371174550 596726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(another great thing about snails: you can use any pronoun you want to refer to them and you'll never be wrong)
< 1371174631 82592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1371174682 651878 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Snail_sanctuary%5E_-_geograph.org.uk_-_215817.jpg   oh gosh
< 1371174688 151808 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1371174731 310317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371174779 204602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SgeoBot: i promise to not try very hard to hack your company's websites
< 1371174826 57044 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371174836 525235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said yesterday that I would put the sequent calculus representation of Turing machine into the computer on the weekend; well, I did it early. Can you please review it, to tell me if you found a mistake, or another comment/question/complaints?
< 1371175319 289152 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow.  snails mate after firing a "love dart" into the other.  
< 1371175320 919097 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_darts  
< 1371175372 895289 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot.
< 1371175400 780988 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, snail courtship lasts up to 6 hours @_@
< 1371175489 450670 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371175544 498225 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh my
< 1371175864 434272 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371175869 529654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt snail porn
< 1371175879 955407 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every few weeks my computer forgets that wlan0 exists
< 1371175884 982896 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have to do a hard reset to fix it
< 1371175886 363336 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :animal mating is way more interesting than human mating okay :<
< 1371175889 965174 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate computers. they make me miss snail porn
< 1371175922 816640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Maybe you should try to fix it some other way, if it does that there is probably something wrong with it?
< 1371175924 773486 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I dunno, there's a lot of depth to human mating.
< 1371175955 897520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what is the deepest human mating incident
< 1371175957 844852 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, there's something wrong with it and i don't know how to fix it because the solution isn't as simple as ./configure && make && make install which is the limit of my capabilities
< 1371175964 808316 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Define "deep".
< 1371175968 542745 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: some engineers in the kola borehole
< 1371175974 224618 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is depth,
< 1371175983 605244 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep Throat is pretty deep.
< 1371176005 376035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of a great quote about bird semen
< 1371176045 188523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  that reminds me of a great quote about bird semen
< 1371176049 345713 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1051)  that reminds me of a great quote about bird semen
< 1371176070 586413 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371176076 305761 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
< 1371176126 412382 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is... that a pun
< 1371176128 370160 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-___-
< 1371176140 713642 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yes.
< 1371176165 915330 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I am listening to the slow version of Magia using SennHeiser headphones
< 1371176210 395254 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I've got about half a degree in puns.
< 1371176306 83617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got about 451
< 1371176319 358723 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371176331 34107 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371176332 307663 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is roughly the temperature parts of my home town are at right now.
< 1371176338 248763 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks for quote, finds detailed drawing of bird soliciting for sex

< 1371176432 874305 :SgeoBot!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo
< 1371176561 566977 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i have what it takes to be a zoology fieldworker.
< 1371176584 993040 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone?
< 1371176595 910870 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disturbingly enough, yes.
< 1371176721 439508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey, i found what i was thinking of. "My career in sperm competition has been a rollercoaster ride, energised by a number of particularly special moments."
< 1371176730 617380 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1371176748 61133 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the essay this is from is titled "Undiminished passion"
< 1371176914 875056 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know which phone I want
< 1371176918 880253 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not certain though
< 1371177004 603163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<~)
< 1371177005 666715 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: `<~'
< 1371177005 761604 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1371177005 833666 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :      `<' (imported from Data.Ord), `<=' (imported from Data.Ord),
< 1371177068 785279 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so like, an associate's?
< 1371177196 36778 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371177751 606124 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Sure.
< 1371177981 510697 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371178194 942849 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1371179038 729786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you expect (<~) to be?
< 1371179220 668356 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to pdfs: should i keep the crazy-ass ultrafinitist zeilberger pdf
< 1371179242 973202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: something from lens.
< 1371179289 634631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i heard lambdabot doesn't have lens at the moment for a stupid safehaskell reason.
< 1371179300 898798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes
< 1371179305 227058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ultrafinitists are the best
< 1371179366 349061 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :REAL (i.e. discrete) analysis is conceptually simpler than traditional 'real' (continuous) analysis, and of course is much truer. But it is, on the whole, technically more difficult. Hence 'Naked Brain' humans had no choice but to pursue the latter kind.
< 1371179400 176112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's discrete analysis in this context
< 1371179449 48634 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analysis for crazy people.
< 1371179492 883871 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Df(x) := (f(x+h) - f(x))/h "where h is the Fundamental mesh size, a Mathematical Universal constant, that unlike Planck's constant, we will never know, but it is very tiny."
< 1371179502 760938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :…
< 1371179520 785956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon zeilberger isn't really crazy
< 1371179522 809722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i see what you mean.
< 1371179523 972696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean he's not a crank
< 1371179541 450419 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott are you reading this
< 1371179545 722481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i've read it
< 1371179553 954308 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is time cube level discourse here
< 1371179557 407902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a PLANK LENGTH but for the PLATONIC REALM
< 1371179560 372008 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean obviously he's not a crank
< 1371179565 564214 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is fucking nuts
< 1371179587 399666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ultrafinitism is not really that nuts
< 1371179593 678393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's not like mathematicians don't go off on platonic type philosophising all the time
< 1371179601 238361 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but do they do it in allcaps
< 1371179603 447230 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ultrafinitism is 100% nuts though
< 1371179604 146910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the information content amounts here to "we work with h as a free variable"
< 1371179607 305536 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just sayin'"
< 1371179669 743273 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fundamental mesh size" eughs me out
< 1371179706 824103 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main stumbling block in the further development of the theory of Discrete Analytic Functions is the fact that the property of being discrete-analytic is not preserved under multiplication. But using the discrete Leibniz rule one can express the derivative of a product, and then the product is "almost analytic". So I am sure that the full arsenal of continuous complex analysis can be discretized, but the details might be too complicated fo
< 1371179744 982609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw finite calculus is extremely cool
< 1371179776 392218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a "fundamental mesh size"?
< 1371179782 52135 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the details too complicated for humans
< 1371179807 768732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That "Df(x) := (f(x+h) - f(x))/h" doesn't seem to make much sense to me
< 1371179808 184771 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the difference between two points on the real line.
< 1371179847 505645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: O, OK, well, it isn't an actual number that can be measured, I think.
< 1371179864 324673 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like a derivative but with a philisophical twist
< 1371179891 278764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i wonder if i'm sleeping
< 1371179896 396566 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371179897 476568 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes this is a dream
< 1371179907 213379 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont listen to bike he is the Deciever
< 1371179917 12543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant i wonder if i'm sleeping tonight but ty
< 1371179925 61180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: /nick Deciever
< 1371179957 977712 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371179975 64818 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about nick Deceiver
< 1371179992 510125 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neo-Pythagoreanism or: Anaxagoras deserved to be drowned
< 1371180036 160046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that is how the "fundamental mesh size" is defined, then it can't be a real number.
< 1371180077 935270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm reading the book are you proud of me
< 1371180082 563093 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371180083 771104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy won't read it with me because he's ""busy""" :-|
< 1371180102 453670 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is utter nonsense to say that √2 is irrational, because this presupposes that it exists, as a number or distance. The truth is that there is no such number or distance. What does exist is the symbol, which is just shorthand for an ideal object x that satisfies x² = 2.
< 1371180107 508163 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellooooo platonism
< 1371180125 616121 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello.........
< 1371180146 612166 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-fidget-
< 1371180155 638856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-roll-
< 1371180161 360183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose whether or not it exists as a distance in physical space is really a different question, although it does mathematically exist, regardless.
< 1371180192 206416 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blessed are the Δifference Equations for They Shall Inherit Math
< 1371180289 318897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not there is such a number, depends on what number system it is in; since it is irrational, that means the rational numbers has no square root of 2, but the real numbers does have.
< 1371180291 46179 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Andrew Wiles' alleged 'proof' of FLT, while a crowning human achievement, is not rigorous, since it uses continuous analysis, which is meaningless.
< 1371180291 117689 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sorry wiles'
< 1371180313 550867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the word 'alleged' *and* putting "proof" in scarequotes
< 1371180324 15039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you writing such nonsensical things?
< 1371180340 144148 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I think mocking elliott is funny. I'll stop.
< 1371180354 645811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you making fun of elliott because of ultrafinitism?
< 1371180376 439866 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, mostly because this guy specifically is nutso.
< 1371180388 374671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only other ultrafinitist I know of is the one from the anecdote, so he's cool.
< 1371180471 755037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a great anecdote
< 1371180478 146955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's the one anecdote about ultrafinitism that i know of
< 1371180491 583489 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that anecdote too
< 1371180500 307783 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[assuming it's the one i know of]
< 1371180554 889728 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many anecdotes about ultrafinitists can there possibly be, i wonder
< 1371180559 840383 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My philosophy is that mathematics is the real reality, not the physical universe and so on.
< 1371180561 259793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finitely many
< 1371180566 122171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well played.
< 1371180569 245038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think lecturing the guy for ranting and mocking people he disagrees with is a bit silly
< 1371180573 292232 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: platonist!! hides in shelter
< 1371180576 754781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since have you noticed how much everyone ever does that
< 1371180588 104740 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't do it quite so amusingly
< 1371180592 97946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like any of it was submitted to a real journal or anything
< 1371180597 517828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: O, what is *your* philosophy of this?
< 1371180620 875919 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of math? i suppose i'm a materialist.
< 1371180654 680010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Can you please be a bit more specific?
< 1371180682 218876 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my philosophy of math is "philosophy of math is silly"
< 1371180697 32698 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a good philosophy.
< 1371180712 923748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why not: I don't think mathematical objects "exist" in any meaningful or usefully talked about sense. Math is just a kind of useful thinking.
< 1371180748 903636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like formalism to me
< 1371180775 46312 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, something like that.
< 1371180782 148175 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'll probably go full platonic at some point derp.
< 1371180790 837263 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~consistency~
< 1371180808 236734 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my philosophy of things existing is "talking about things existing is silly"
< 1371180836 764613 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hilbert was kind of wack tho.
< 1371180838 473895 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's that.
< 1371180849 509536 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy philosophy: Q: what does it mean for something to exist / A: dont ask that question shut up shut up shut up
< 1371180849 752793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well your philosophy of things existing doesn't really exist, so there
< 1371180868 336059 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: would you call yourself a sillyist
< 1371180876 167430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote saulgorn formal
< 1371180876 276946 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes for this person. Are you on drugs?
< 1371180878 877937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!
< 1371180880 189596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote formal
< 1371180880 303111 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raguel says: does it unsettle anyone that there isn't a formal semantics for haskell? its like someone got drunk, invented a gadget, then when he woke up, couldn't quite draw a blueprint
< 1371180880 648456 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371180882 507757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371180883 782062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote formalist
< 1371180883 919156 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :SaulGorn says: A formalist is one who cannot understand a theory unless it is meaningless.
< 1371180886 127839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thachaf
< 1371180888 779867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thambdabot
< 1371180893 294700 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks saul gorn
< 1371180898 666775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that shachaf
< 1371180912 27559 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371180918 104835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shaul Chorn
< 1371180926 628550 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helpful
< 1371180949 356828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you understand my implementation of a Turning machine in the sequent calculus?
< 1371180957 359716 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope.
< 1371180967 104217 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1371180976 792955 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read it? Did you find a mistake within it?
< 1371180987 793138 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371180994 177178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: but seriously philosophy of math has /some/ use, if only to motivate weirdos to make non-classical logics etc
< 1371181027 345318 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok so long as they need it to motivate them....i do like those non-classical logics
< 1371181029 626694 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the mathematics establishment should just recruit in asylums to skip the middlemen
< 1371181042 715680 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea
< 1371181046 188150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes perhaps it can motivate some things.
< 1371181049 522688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-classical logics are p. cool 'Bike stamp of approval'
< 1371181077 362701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only in mathematics, but I think this kind of motivation can be using in science too, in order to form hypotheses and so on.
< 1371181117 997097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy's philosophy of mathematics allergy reminds me of the philosophy of mathematics allergy i used to have
< 1371181135 65931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened
< 1371181136 661234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's shachaf
< 1371181138 602987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also used to hate talking about anything i completely arbitrarily categorised as "politics"
< 1371181144 514229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :``i grew out of both''
< 1371181145 767061 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `i: not found
< 1371181146 584488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha same
< 1371181155 437898 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i rant about the NSA on twitter so that went well
< 1371181158 822488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the "same kind of thing" i think
< 1371181161 203198 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :srry 14 yo me
< 1371181206 750131 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i wonder if i can apply this "useful crazies" philosophy to psychology stuff none of you give a damn about
< 1371181211 613602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've forgotten how old bike is HELP
< 1371181213 719013 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i require more research on this
< 1371181218 514737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf "#!/bin/sh\n\necho 'DID YOU REALLY'\n" > 'bin/`i' && chmod +x 'bin/`i'
< 1371181219 320768 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike is old iirc
< 1371181221 763780 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371181224 777943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``i grew out of both''
< 1371181226 10266 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID YOU REALLY
< 1371181226 550289 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so old
< 1371181234 50263 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: awesome
< 1371181284 442090 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read any [psychologist's name] directly yet, i don't know if he was crazy. i know chomsky is kind of wack and skinner is super wack. everybody's wack
< 1371181303 311804 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chomsky aint whack :|
< 1371181308 156227 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi augur
< 1371181309 806853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chomsky is an original gangsta
< 1371181313 737383 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry he is
< 1371181315 794973 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chomsky is p.wack
< 1371181321 436488 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hes really not :|
< 1371181335 900514 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dope
< 1371181347 692005 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a ping on chomsky
< 1371181353 754378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great debate between Bike, augur, and mnoqy
< 1371181357 757048 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: yes :)
< 1371181357 868694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also does augur highlight on chomsky
< 1371181766 469334 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371181787 979122 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1371181873 727378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please tell me if you like this "turing_sequent"?
< 1371181889 152046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what the mistake is?
< 1371182323 429706 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371182878 867068 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh. Noit o' mnain gelb has materials called "copper", "zinc", and "metal".
< 1371182908 489354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gelb? not worb?
< 1371182914 767606 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371183150 225477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wire: the magnificent element
< 1371183397 121385 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. So apparently I wrote this thing called evolver.py that creates a random subleq program and executes it.
< 1371183541 452586 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing determining the fitness of a program.
< 1371183570 10195 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evolver
< 1371183616 132274 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371183654 705747 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'd like to give the programs fitness functions somehow.
< 1371183693 902598 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿Qué función de fitidad debo usar?
< 1371183710 972846 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimize for good ascii art porn
< 1371183807 938064 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371183871 10074 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I want to do rock-paper-scissors.
< 1371183967 250933 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371183979 472329 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371184956 707809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371186137 575231 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371186203 797608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike, you should read this book for me. it's too long
< 1371186205 543599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 pages = too long
< 1371186227 515404 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does reading a book for you entail?
< 1371186320 839504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the words
< 1371186336 553069 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just how i normally read books though
< 1371186339 694737 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what gives it the elliott touch
< 1371186577 307780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i told you to do it
< 1371186599 861812 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you get out of this though
< 1371186632 281343 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ill read it once i stop having to do things
< 1371186643 955555 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist
< 1371186645 758791 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1371187447 306158 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, now you can compete two genomes with each other to see which one is better at rock-paper-scissors.
< 1371187496 538463 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371188375 243455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi
< 1371188420 973226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: hey mnoqy philosophy is p. good can i have some more
< 1371188431 461980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf
< 1371188432 494740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wbchaf
< 1371188465 805194 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "sure" - mnoqy philosophy
< 1371188482 294749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happendeegan
< 1371188758 363234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much, you?
< 1371188942 64170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n/ne/
< 1371188949 693733 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were pinging me "maybe not"
< 1371188956 878775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, don't remember why
< 1371188984 451302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm telling people in another channel why they should all take LSD
< 1371188988 228072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:38:56  where's shachaf
< 1371189002 132142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it #lisp "continuity"
< 1371189002 760968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what channel
< 1371189003 891525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Three: Whenever shachaf is not on screen, all of the other characters should say 'Where's shachaf?'"
< 1371189007 104917 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it #esoteric
< 1371189013 791596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't want to say because 'everyone will invade'
< 1371189017 568501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that too
< 1371189026 988545 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :telling people in another channel why they should all take LSD is hardly "not much", imo
< 1371189053 486125 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a day in the life of drugzjokeman
< 1371189055 862295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty normal thing for me to do
< 1371189061 991498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this is serious business
< 1371189074 38066 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugzeriousman
< 1371189075 720820 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs business
< 1371189081 431679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by everybody do you mean "me+Sgeo"
< 1371189097 862982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it #drugz
< 1371189099 799127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because let me tell you
< 1371189103 943153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will definitely fucking join #drugz
< 1371189120 268880 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow even when i say #drugz and mean it as a channel it looks like a hashtag
< 1371189124 575690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysterious properties of the word drugz
< 1371189151 724731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hash tag" i get it
< 1371189156 855575 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)
< 1371189158 374893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good one
< 1371189183 131954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i take drugz will i be as cool as kmc; life's eternal mysterys
< 1371189184 177654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:45 < kmc> i think we are all fundamentally lonely because we don't have access to any interior mental states other than our own
< 1371189187 123803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:45 < kmc> and temporarily modifying the way your brain works is a way to escape that a bit
< 1371189212 406644 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#drugztalk
< 1371189221 982676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me three tries not to read that as "inferior mental states"
< 1371189226 139359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3
< 1371189237 736530 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"interior mental states" is a very #drugz thing to say #drugz
< 1371189265 995685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does caffeine count as a drugz
< 1371189268 805508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :need kmc's ruling on this
< 1371189279 22658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: /set show_nickmode_empty off
< 1371189279 737741 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i barely have access to my own mental state >:
< 1371189282 937740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: /script load splitlong.pl
< 1371189306 67311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: /quit
< 1371189306 139361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have access to alt. mental states
< 1371189311 990568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1371189312 683484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ulterior mental states
< 1371189315 443703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371189318 712251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371189322 623598 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1371189349 201828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: im sorry i have superpowers
< 1371189504 116903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey this reminds me of a pet peeve. kmc when you're talking about mental states and other psychological stuff don't refer to it as neuroscientific or anything, psychology is perfectly good. thx
< 1371189521 97980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371189532 633672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't follow
< 1371189543 700969 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok
< 1371189547 15504 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a peeve
< 1371189556 573814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but did i do something which exhibits this peevish behavior
< 1371189561 739155 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371189563 347489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371189573 130094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well I'm still not sure what you meant
< 1371189916 879457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371189925 186338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wbchaf
< 1371189933 435813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thellilott
< 1371189957 747840 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike is this about people talking about psychological stuff but they think psychology is rubbish pseudoscience so they talk about it terms of the physical brain being in a weird state??? i may or may not have seen this happen like once
< 1371189983 500663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371189988 84445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :software is rubbish pseudoscience, that's why i describe my programs in terms of what they do to transistors
< 1371189997 430804 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: yeah basically that.
< 1371189998 511413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Bike a neuropseudoscientist
< 1371190006 309138 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tragic fate
< 1371190049 41476 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what set this off: i read that paper about rubberhose crypto again and it's described as "neuroscience" even though it's based on cog psych.
< 1371190057 626754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[joke making fun of freud, ignores every psychologist since freud]
< 1371190067 377416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it based on
< 1371190070 729616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitting people
< 1371190070 983446 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo freud
< 1371190082 999774 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the crypt/analysis/
< 1371190085 816262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your comedic timing is impeccable
< 1371190096 227467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychology is such a fræud
< 1371190139 875920 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: idgi
< 1371190171 342475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ##crypto spam
< 1371190175 631861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this happen often
< 1371190181 432887 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Neuroscience Meets Cryptography: Designing Crypto Primitives Secure Against Rubber Hose Attacks"
< 1371190186 66113 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :read it or whatever i guess
< 1371190204 696323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Did you read _Three Men in a Boat_?
< 1371190211 201489 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet.
< 1371190225 526498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :read it hth
< 1371190226 911822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I mention it was published in 1889?
< 1371190238 215854 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but that was easiliy noticeable in the wikipedia article.
< 1371190285 311949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey #esoteric needs more petitions
< 1371190335 343674 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :petition to introduce more petitions: sign here ←
< 1371190357 415534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :petition to introduce more petitions: sign here X ←
< 1371190367 571583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is because the bot spammed ##crypto with  https://www.change.org/petitions/mtgox-add-litecoin-to-mtgox ?
< 1371190370 606299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great petition imo
< 1371190378 660278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really sells the cause when every sentence contains a grammatical error
< 1371190422 987235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if every sentence my gramma says contains a grammatical error
< 1371190537 392218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you put this on change.org
< 1371190578 349085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should put it on the whitehouse.gov thing instead imo
< 1371190591 152483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have a white house in .uk
< 1371190600 622184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few
< 1371190614 923894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a Whitehouse
< 1371190629 770093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was confused with the White House on at least one (1) occasion
< 1371190636 725228 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a russian one and an american one isn't that ENOUGH universe
< 1371190675 240230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is enough
< 1371190687 661280 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::{
< 1371190699 557056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::{)
< 1371190703 745270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you whitehouse, ha ha charade you are
< 1371190725 865923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that is what i was thinking of
< 1371190726 341328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey did you see my moustache
< 1371190729 868324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the confusion may be apocryphal
< 1371190733 332959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa dude that word is weird
< 1371190743 50321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the american spelling drops the o instead of the u
< 1371190787 175178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostache
< 1371190827 567961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you get the feeling that person is just there to argue and not listen
< 1371190843 529268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i have to join this fuckn crypto channel
< 1371190847 830371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371190868 807952 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it sounds pretty bad from these reports!
< 1371190979 371367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man
< 1371190983 902430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting too tired for this hott book
< 1371190987 112313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to cooll down
< 1371191010 730608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what book
< 1371191013 496643 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-]
< 1371191017 456727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a hott book
< 1371191114 635958 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google hott book
< 1371191115 289506 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `search' failed with: user error (https not supported)
< 1371191120 235180 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371191134 594787 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf won't survive this, elliott.
< 1371191155 567126 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hott book
< 1371191165 133136 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia???
< 1371191166 473880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia..............................
< 1371191181 596429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :without a bot to search i feel very isolated.
< 1371191198 190431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy will be your search bot
< 1371191218 695784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um why is @google broken
< 1371191220 489135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google fuck
< 1371191221 37483 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck
< 1371191221 163511 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Fuck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
< 1371191224 304145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!mnoqy nutrition facts of a carrot
< 1371191225 433409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google cold book
< 1371191227 334183 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/books/review/Roach-t.html?pagewanted=all
< 1371191227 430287 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Book Review - 'Cold - Adventures In the World�s Frozen Places,' by Bill Str...
< 1371191229 908823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google hott book
< 1371191230 378874 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `search' failed with: user error (https not supported)
< 1371191231 859593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371191237 401438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it's trying to read the title of an https url
< 1371191237 714423 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first result is https'y?
< 1371191239 13101 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh heh
< 1371191245 131643 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye
< 1371191246 164577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL that goes on the todo list
< 1371191252 783623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx github
< 1371191256 782453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's on the todo list now
< 1371191257 617896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@todo
< 1371191257 716621 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :0. SamB: A way to get multiple results from a google search
< 1371191257 813238 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. dons: improve formatting of @dict
< 1371191257 884857 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. dons: write Haskell Manifesto
< 1371191257 885032 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. lispy: don't let lambdabot's prettyprinter split the sequence @foo across lines
< 1371191257 885147 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :4. TheHunter: priviledged users should get priviledged listcommands.
< 1371191259 718603 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[37 @more lines]
< 1371191260 733001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more
< 1371191261 718692 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :5. TheHunter: @type 1 :: Int
< 1371191263 721620 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :6. lispy: haddock gives a link from a type signature to the types.  It would be nice if it also let you find functions in the given module that use a type.
< 1371191265 721827 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :7. dons: Implement @whatis
< 1371191267 726066 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :8. dcoutts: implement @cool list, as a clone of the @todo(-add) commands
< 1371191269 725011 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :9. dons: there's some bug in the 'when i left' code of @seen
< 1371191271 733076 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[32 @more lines]
< 1371191273 795254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more
< 1371191273 907750 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :10. dons: sarahbot style @tell
< 1371191275 729547 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :11. beelsebob_: @tell command - relays a message to someone when they next speak
< 1371191277 739798 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :12. dons: @seen on lambdabot should report lambdabot's channels too
< 1371191279 742551 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :13. ski: when printing first lines of infinite things (or all cases with nonexact), should say 'at least'
< 1371191281 737003 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :14. ski: provide '@more ', at least for privmsg
< 1371191283 290541 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: elliott told me to tell you to stop spamming
< 1371191283 655308 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type 1 :: Int
< 1371191283 742003 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[27 @more lines]
< 1371191285 738057 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int
< 1371191287 131277 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think it's serious
< 1371191292 530460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ok
< 1371191296 975188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't he tell me himself
< 1371191298 597809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mnoqy told me to tell him to tell you to stop spamming :-(
< 1371191304 372388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a tangled web
< 1371191314 826864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth is... i am mnoqy
< 1371191326 598650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm putting elliott on /ignore
< 1371191328 674840 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :mnoqy
> 1371191328 960236 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371191337 955235 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371191338 922570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the gordian ¬"
< 1371191351 503525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :person in ##crypto is claiming that at least 10% of the bitcoin network power is compromised botnet machines
< 1371191365 794376 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that plausible?
< 1371191373 566720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no way of knowing
< 1371191382 838587 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :kmc
> 1371191382 861449 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371191391 801758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very plausible that people in ##crypto will claim things.
< 1371191419 842879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1371191425 212969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the https thing is some other library's fault
< 1371191427 417453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sighhhhhhhhh
< 1371191524 814037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: am i on /ignore now
< 1371191566 134975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i have voice
< 1371191579 899764 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a serious question
< 1371191614 4439 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reason probably similar to that of why i have voice
< 1371191636 585077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you saying kmc is the best
< 1371191655 436715 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why i'm +v
< 1371191660 684037 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :mnoqy
> 1371191660 709067 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371191670 322842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you can't both be the best
< 1371191681 256548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2952
< 1371191683 443660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad we got that sorted
< 1371191720 131325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: like referencing bible verses
< 1371191723 828507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1371191725 194420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not super mega
< 1371191732 608047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i thought that was a super mega link for like five whole seconds
< 1371191733 87968 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's happening
< 1371191739 543584 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was super mega too
< 1371191742 462363 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel betrayed
< 1371191754 45057 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1371191783 896461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Incident
< 1371191808 843829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey speaking of super mega
< 1371191812 508287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist
< 1371191814 809649 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
< 1371191817 164930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf hello
< 1371191817 281396 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371191832 838340 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow lots of super mega recently!!!
< 1371191845 207314 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not clean
< 1371191867 132174 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371191874 322138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's with all the mustaches on super mega
< 1371191885 695235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know. i'm not a super megxpert.
< 1371191887 73097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott hi
< 1371191887 174465 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371191897 653117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shachaf am i on ignore
< 1371191897 732648 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371191928 816893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott yes, see above
< 1371191928 915274 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371191944 901319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf i understand that's the kind of thing that's not meant to happen!!
< 1371191945 1758 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371192017 337117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK?
< 1371192061 937126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a lot like /quit
< 1371192080 129682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf i was making a homoros reference
< 1371192080 229227 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371192084 189068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf *hummus
< 1371192084 287998 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371192102 205919 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys
< 1371192103 158350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know.
< 1371192106 443922 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fucking 
< 1371192108 462740 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1371192129 551002 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"guys you're fucking fuck" - bike, voice of today's youth
< 1371192145 671941 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know it's true
< 1371192159 538319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't fuck in here! this is the sex room
< 1371192180 131736 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a shame that isn't a song lyric.
< 1371192181 326955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/unignore elliott
< 1371192187 905205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs.

< 1371192198 547453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i've never watched dr strangelove
< 1371192203 957625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that go before or after lsd
< 1371192208 187753 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1371192212 901026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before.
< 1371192215 869130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or simultaneously
< 1371192238 294312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Dr. Strangelove_ is good.
< 1371192246 292095 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr strangelove is good
< 1371192247 475646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the version without the underscores
< 1371192250 43352 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive never seen lsd
< 1371192251 420632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thonqy
< 1371192262 930630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the version without the underscores but with the dot and with one of the capitals
< 1371192271 560586 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks mnoqy 
< 1371192273 303954 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, mnoqy. Thoqy.
< 1371192279 188691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dr. Strangelove or: How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb is good.
< 1371192293 203210 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks monqy
< 1371192293 313671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/l/L/
< 1371192294 460995 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, monqy. Thonqy.
< 1371192299 429080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1371192303 493108 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about in camlcase
< 1371192309 188396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should that be s/l/L/?
< 1371192321 826377 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr strangeLove
< 1371192336 241559 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mr strangelove phd
< 1371192346 302756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DrStrangeLove
< 1371192353 860312 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr bloodmoney, or how we got along after the bomb
< 1371192396 425298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Did you watch _Dr. Strangelove_?
< 1371192403 321950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i watched jerkcity
< 1371192444 970417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that about socrates
< 1371192472 258634 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :athens wasn't a jerkcity for killing socrates!
< 1371192475 218893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, he was a jerk.
< 1371192481 218149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371192481 742087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd watch a jerkcity film
< 1371192488 646666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was the jerk.
< 1371192491 957286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean
< 1371192493 537043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so would everyone
< 1371192497 759453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't.
< 1371192502 599816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the jerkcity
< 1371192511 226983 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he wasn't a city.
< 1371192514 967880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean we all know the syllogism.
< 1371192530 6162 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd watch a jerkcity film
< 1371192538 815461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes you would
< 1371192545 524088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody really has a choice in fact
< 1371192550 626469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't.
< 1371192556 347187 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work like that
< 1371192558 840893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What syllogism?
< 1371192567 212205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all men are mortal;
< 1371192581 139512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Socrates is a man
< 1371192583 373637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No man is an island
< 1371192584 515491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one?
< 1371192589 771671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.
< 1371192589 882120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't talk about cities.
< 1371192594 124405 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one
< 1371192598 787417 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but it says he's a man.
< 1371192608 784439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't say he's not a city.
< 1371192666 4944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it say whether or not he'd watch a jerkcity film
< 1371192670 926540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He wouldn't.
< 1371192709 628425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i am very irritable lately what do i do
< 1371192728 459502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know why?
< 1371192745 904924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really.
< 1371192788 256460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the + mean that you're my attorney?
< 1371192801 463316 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wondermark.com/943/ kmc versus realty
< 1371192871 278049 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371192886 891500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good comic
< 1371192945 62717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does the start of irritability coïncide with some other change
< 1371192955 929880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so.
< 1371193042 411905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there's a restaurant down the street and their menu contains wordart where the name of the restaurant is rendered anti-aliased on top of a white background and then all the non-white pixels were composited on top of a dark image
< 1371193056 868627 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1371193062 542499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a name for that particular kind of fuckup
< 1371193070 373524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds perfect
< 1371193091 212427 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen that
< 1371193093 177888 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great
< 1371193099 66908 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, that sort of fuckup
< 1371193101 663999 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that restaurant
< 1371193154 177391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://davidmalki.tumblr.com/post/52931217555/hey-its-a-comic-wondermark-943-dont-give-it
< 1371193170 52983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much nicer, isn't it? 2x2, bigger text.
< 1371193189 85233 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumblr sucks, though
< 1371193297 887283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's amazing how uninterested I am in helping people as soon as I find out they're using e.g. Yesod/conduit.
< 1371193308 135419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet some people feel the same way about lens.
< 1371193319 755085 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"take it to -lens"
< 1371193492 351066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what is your bot prefix
< 1371193495 782846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help
< 1371193506 739722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help
< 1371193509 966131 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help .
< 1371193581 683150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who
< 1371193763 935166 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371194515 929152 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371194974 203424 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371195833 400721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why uninterested
< 1371197378 153232 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371198588 644357 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
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< 1371200377 66294 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371200475 175331 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371202573 470365 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371203378 691656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371203709 372346 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371203861 322274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371204337 216647 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 QUIT :Quit: itsy
< 1371204620 983254 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371205834 805277 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah
< 1371205836 884449 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ill
< 1371205953 827725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371205963 745979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you: the illest.
< 1371205976 928025 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you passing your germs on to us
< 1371206018 117376 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, Phantom_Hoover 
< 1371206020 624074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the bubonic plague
< 1371206027 364546 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you should hear my sick beats
< 1371206036 60108 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I don't think so
< 1371206043 429017 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have any bubons
< 1371206045 136338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the bucolic plague?
< 1371206051 338177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me Taneb have ever told you to watch farscape
< 1371206068 349876 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you have
< 1371206074 946482 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thus far have not watched it
< 1371206084 163179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you
< 1371206088 168859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad you're ill
< 1371206106 233067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :farscape........
< 1371206117 16608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the thing with scorpion isn't it
< 1371206130 502447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :close
< 1371206144 524672 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's very good)
< 1371206187 147292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think someone showed me one episode once
< 1371206190 315953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :with cartoons??
< 1371206213 295347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371206315 840564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that episode representative
< 1371206349 675375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cartoons are not
< 1371206355 728031 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the general craziness kind of is
< 1371208147 748929 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371208421 696230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey mnoqy if a matrix is really a linear function, what's a determinant
< 1371208538 932211 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way i did determinants was as follows:
< 1371208584 328709 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
< 1371208662 300289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the joke that you didn't do determinants
< 1371208677 446032 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first define determinants on matrices over a field F axiomatically as: alternating multilinear function (F^n)^n -> F s.t. det(I) = 1
< 1371208682 312397 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then
< 1371208692 625520 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you derive a bunch of properties of determinants
< 1371208718 86360 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like det(A^{-1}) = det(A)^{-1}, and det(AB) = det(A)det(B)
< 1371208733 998390 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND THEN since all matrix representations of a linear function are similar
< 1371208768 468063 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you define det(f) := det([f]_{arbitrary basis})
< 1371208824 269477 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can elaborate further if it wasnt clear but thats the short version
< 1371208855 80621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i wasn't falling asleep right now :'(
< 1371208868 193474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll ask you more tomrorrowr
< 1371208870 509612 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371208874 424752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i won't
< 1371208877 43776 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371208878 179195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i work in mysterious ways
< 1371211339 969497 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1371213169 116928 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371213708 180723 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1371214054 803785 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371215397 206479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eip lindbohm.freenode.net
< 1371215398 363822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rip
< 1371215408 252129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
< 1371215417 393032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371215453 102631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371215459 788739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1371215464 796147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i connected to chat.eu.freenode.net
< 1371215469 805909 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get a server in new jersey
< 1371215548 930517 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@77.49.108.183.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371215588 263075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps that's New Jersey, Italy.
< 1371215605 852812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat.eu.freenode.net is an alias for chat.freenode.net.
< 1371215610 210255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's new.
< 1371215648 723434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml has also removed the continental aliases for Europe and US.
< 1371215697 736267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only conclusion you can draw is that some sort of Lorentz contraction has brought Europe and the states together.
< 1371215860 30222 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Resulting velocity: 0 - Displacement x: 1.088
< 1371215861 325888 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird
< 1371216078 841241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assign fizzie to ask #freenode
< 1371216101 449244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assign #freenode to ##esoteric and then you can ask here.
< 1371216113 822271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't
< 1371216250 368689 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371216543 555709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I should just connect to holmes.freenode.net
< 1371216546 881886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 1 ms ping from my server
< 1371216796 580760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: would that be a "good idea"
< 1371216806 251777 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1371216828 19924 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371217354 660330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie i am literally incapable of making decisions without your help
< 1371217420 205993 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, is fizzie Keeper of the Coin?
< 1371217433 26544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371217442 568956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love logic exams
< 1371217445 275330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're so easy
< 1371217472 965812 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always hated logic lessons at the university
< 1371217518 40474 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it felt like the teacher was trying to convince us that the most basic common sense was actually an obscure science
< 1371217524 227466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic here is great because it's technically a philosophy course
< 1371217542 626978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's basically aimed at people who have never had to do a proof in their lives
< 1371217630 197977 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it makes you feel superior I understand the feeling bro
< 1371217673 402070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was it about monoids
< 1371217693 635104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly no
< 1371217705 222030 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: "common sense" doesn't exist and judgements that are simple in the surface can be very complex from a theory pov
< 1371217751 449332 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371217848 365014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 a new featured language would be great twh
< 1371217848 497274 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371218151 882485 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dislike german exams, they're so schwierig
< 1371218255 760961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well ef-wee-ai-wee I do connect to explicit servers, if you know what I mean.
< 1371218290 111724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: servers plural???
< 1371218310 111655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you're on a US server
< 1371218317 265232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very finnish
< 1371218331 201463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I listed two explicit and the now borken chat.eu in my bouncer config.
< 1371218346 598010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :rajaniemi, lindbohm and chat.eu.
< 1371218366 625980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're on hubbard
< 1371218393 551568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Quit: jumpin' jumpin'
< 1371218400 442568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371218406 95632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im not
< 1371218702 431154 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good jumpin'
< 1371218722 389642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how often holmes goes down......
< 1371218747 962456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i dare rest the fate of lambdabot on one server!!
< 1371219515 785630 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371219675 970511 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
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< 1371221298 166678 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1371222208 391941 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371223868 76358 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371224854 845506 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1371224940 276706 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: No buffer space available
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< 1371224962 929424 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371224983 888905 :drlemon!~drlemon@99-116-253-96.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371225209 655233 :drlemon!~drlemon@99-116-253-96.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net PART :#esoteric
< 1371225334 974513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371227385 827020 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371227887 26484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : SDL_Event e;
< 1371227887 136892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : SDL_UserEvent u;
< 1371227887 137060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : u.type=SDL_USEREVENT;
< 1371227887 137167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : u.code=0;
< 1371227887 137279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : e.type=SDL_USEREVENT;
< 1371227887 937785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : e.user=u;
< 1371227888 9856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : SDL_PushEvent(&e);
< 1371227888 295201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1371227903 325564 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 appears to have segfaulted?
< 1371227983 549673 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371228128 78529 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops zzo38paste
< 1371228439 426815 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371229764 694215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of game?   http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MSbackgammonches
< 1371231563 994150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371232312 529787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a real question?
< 1371232764 765244 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1371232987 579592 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371234759 425695 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371235443 592686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking arizona
< 1371235447 58325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good for daylight savings time
< 1371235516 139460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like daylight saving time.
< 1371236250 964857 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1371236815 529241 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371237097 13735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a shock
< 1371237384 38679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like daylight saving time.
< 1371237391 104173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like standard time, though.
< 1371237395 937967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371237409 259720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and zzo38 are doomed to be forever an hour apart
< 1371237413 896540 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like all the time in the world
< 1371237445 845794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's +v makes me feel uneasy.
< 1371237447 83011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is he scheming?
< 1371237463 445729 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371237502 737457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess i could -v myself
< 1371237506 371449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... i won't
< 1371237548 519269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp
< 1371237554 349942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Are you sure one can -v oneself?)
< 1371237574 807575 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope
< 1371237582 895395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't without at least halfop priviledges
< 1371237583 450449 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371237597 70122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371237607 642218 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric
< 1371237614 872685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will relinquish my -v as soon as the civil emergency is over, I promise
< 1371237622 114808 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe you could -v using chanserv
< 1371237626 795854 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not directly
< 1371237627 428245 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the civil emergency?
< 1371237641 253049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: kmc has +v
< 1371237692 732767 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I like SDL
< 1371237701 121097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: OK
< 1371237708 631531 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm unhappy that the Haskell package doesn't allow you to write your own function for sound using SDL
< 1371237739 359109 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the C side, you can provide a user-written callback which fills a buffer
< 1371237742 840792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Will it work if you write the function for sound in C?
< 1371237753 260916 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Haskell library seems to just have skipped over it
< 1371237754 357262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can write the other part of the program in Haskell?
< 1371237758 120200 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I see why it'd be hard
< 1371237851 555566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that hard to turn Haskell functions into C function pointers
< 1371237868 767464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just write your own foreign import for that function
< 1371237873 765648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One can always also go away and come back.)
< 1371237875 541513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even Haskell IO actions!
< 1371237950 359961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you could do that, but due to the way the sound works in SDL it seems it might not necessarily work.
< 1371238186 409371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not be real time enough
< 1371238518 605415 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so when you capture a backgammon pawn on the chess board, it gets transferred to the backgammon board's jail
< 1371238531 352633 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you transfer a pawn from the backgammon board to the chess board?
< 1371238699 225644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__:  Chess pieces in backgammon board move like stones of backgammon while there. I fixed this rule now.
< 1371238741 215342 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but my question is: how do you transfer a piece to the backgammon board?
< 1371238745 818281 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1371238749 60411 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the opposite
< 1371238756 844881 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you transfer a piece to the chess board?
< 1371238771 399914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are bear off.
< 1371238803 575429 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371238818 7123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O no wait, I was wrong.
< 1371238828 870722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess pieces captured in chess board are removed from the game.
< 1371238831 722926 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm feeling somewhat better than I was before
< 1371238861 120138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only stones, not chess pieces, are placed in jail when captured from chess board.
< 1371238867 180440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this understandable now?
< 1371238900 148835 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1371239419 520307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371239492 798340 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when lambdabot will have lenses again
< 1371239498 292926 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you hashable
< 1371239560 80714 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f (a, b) -> fmap ((,) b) (f a)
< 1371239561 836303 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (t -> f a) -> (t, a1) -> f (a1, a)
< 1371239602 194692 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f (a, b) -> fmap ((,) a) (f b)
< 1371239603 799959 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => (t -> f a) -> (a1, t) -> f (a1, a)
< 1371239639 100617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb Taneb Taneb
< 1371239656 354389 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM MANUALLY ADDING LENS TO LAMBDABOT SO HELP ME GOD
< 1371239660 921687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let _2 f (a, b) = (,) a <$> f b; _2 :: Functor f => (a -> f b) -> (c, a) -> f (c, b)
< 1371239662 553822 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371239678 311900 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :r u ok
< 1371239690 69006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you view my sequent calculus of Turing machines now? Please tell me if there is a mistake!
< 1371239699 997337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let type Lens s t a b = forall f. Applicative f => (a -> f b) -> s -> f t
< 1371239700 88317 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TypeOperators is not enabled
< 1371239710 44110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lombdabot
< 1371239723 17064 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you even need a forall there
< 1371239733 547127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let type Lens s t a b = Applicative f => (a -> f b) -> s -> f t
< 1371239735 340825 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371239737 480627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew
< 1371239737 922631 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, one could probably fork, and open a pull request with the Trustworthy stuff
< 1371239740 361844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :disgusting
< 1371239745 938542 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \l f -> runIdentity . l (Identity . f)
< 1371239748 7155 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :((a1 -> Identity b) -> a -> Identity c) -> (a1 -> b) -> a -> c
< 1371239768 841210 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good type
< 1371239782 190414 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Lens was Functor
< 1371239787 667263 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ let over l f = runIdentity . l (Identity . f); over :: ((a -> Identity b) -> s -> Identity t) -> (a -> b) -> s -> t
< 1371239789 505426 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme check
< 1371239793 18815 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let over l f = runIdentity . l (Identity . f); over :: ((a -> Identity b) -> s -> Identity t) -> (a -> b) -> s -> t
< 1371239794 441527 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: btw three men is p. good
< 1371239795 134008 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371239803 532554 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> over _2 (+ 1) (1, 2)
< 1371239804 742212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what about the boat and the dog
< 1371239807 286388 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1371239809 352980 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> over _2 (+ 1) (1, 2)
< 1371239810 387086 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dog's good
< 1371239814 26200 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1371239814 904697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure re: the boat yet
< 1371239818 121639 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO
< 1371239823 765842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :di you only read chapter 0
< 1371239823 982651 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :" type Lens s t a b = forall f. Functor f => (a -> f b) -> s -> f t"
< 1371239833 161701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops.
< 1371239833 745537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on chapter: iii
< 1371239838 708796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I really write Applicative?
< 1371239839 801718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Habit.
< 1371239847 267926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine
< 1371239847 366809 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined.
< 1371239848 697189 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative would be a traversal I think
< 1371239855 712179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let type Lens s t a b = Functor f => (a -> f b) -> s -> f t
< 1371239856 509138 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371239867 667278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let _2 f (a, b) = (,) a <$> f b; _2 :: Lens (e,a) (e,b) a b
< 1371239868 754768 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371239881 145010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let over l f = runIdentity . l (Identity . f); over :: ((a -> Identity b) -> s -> Identity t) -> (a -> b) -> s -> t
< 1371239881 994949 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371239883 522100 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did that just undefine everything?
< 1371239896 307150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he's just redefining _2 w/ his fancy-ass type
< 1371239908 825339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it did just undefined everything.
< 1371239917 624010 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well
< 1371239919 70193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let view l = getConst . l Const
< 1371239919 742159 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1371239920 971469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ty view
< 1371239921 653976 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :((a1 -> Const a1 b1) -> a -> Const c b) -> a -> c
< 1371239937 113457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view _2 (over _2 (*5) ("hi",20))
< 1371239938 244194 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view _1 (3,4)
< 1371239939 632226 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `_1'
< 1371239939 703980 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `_2' (line 126)
< 1371239940 809860 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  100
< 1371239965 245844 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> over _2 (*5) ("test",19)
< 1371239968 739519 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ("test",95)
< 1371239973 221438 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371239979 772617 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did my view not work?
< 1371239991 848356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the reason lambdabot said.
< 1371239992 966837 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because _1 doesn't exist
< 1371239996 309107 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you didn't define a _1
< 1371239999 265173 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view _2 (3,4)
< 1371240005 104466 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  mueval-core: Time limit exceeded
< 1371240074 883945 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view _2 (3,4)
< 1371240078 341560 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4
< 1371240084 974364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg lambdabot > view _2 (3,4)
< 1371240152 210894 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let _1 f (a, b) = (,) b <$> f a; _1 :: Lens (e,a) (e,b) b a
< 1371240152 705221 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:128:19:
< 1371240152 829239 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     Could not deduce (e ~ a)
< 1371240152 900962 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     from the context (Functor f...
< 1371240267 703856 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :_2 seems a bit easier to define than _1, because of how fmap works with tuples
< 1371240741 242932 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...isn't any occupied type a terminal object in Hask?
< 1371240759 920265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"occupied"?
< 1371240771 450186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any type with one inhabitant is.
< 1371240793 772076 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there's a word "single" that I was missing
< 1371240800 510408 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I meant inhabited
< 1371240802 544257 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was wrong
< 1371240808 157304 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay learning
< 1371240812 849047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yearning
< 1371241014 292691 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371242146 202902 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371242238 632835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Turing machine sequent calculus could be consistently combined with classical logic; last time I think I made a mistake when I said it can't.
< 1371242837 397500 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably play Kerbal Space Program
< 1371243047 540141 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except a) I cannot find my bank card and b) I have exams happening
< 1371243876 159561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, you can improve that CM sketch thing if you only need to allow adding, rather than deleting.
< 1371243952 120658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O no, even though Turing machine and classical logic together might be consistent, it isn't very useful for this purpose because any of the pieces of the tape might spontaneously lose data and be reset to the default symbol.
< 1371244000 282004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is useful if you want to make that kind of Turing machine, perhaps......
< 1371244004 415850 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371244038 843158 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy, did anyone give you an answer to your riddle?
< 1371244041 723758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is CM sketch thing
< 1371244054 100228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :count-min
< 1371244057 324460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1371244068 10464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do if you don't allow deleting
< 1371244143 796420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can compute the minimum before incrementing, and then you don't need to increment the counters that are already bigger than the new minimum.
< 1371244197 899106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371244415 403712 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: not yet
< 1371244441 129753 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I think I have an answer
< 1371244444 728077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall I PM?
< 1371244449 710378 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay :-)
< 1371244551 967943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whiddle?
< 1371244600 79907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that is good for concurrent access I guess.
< 1371244611 612732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the one with the bitwise &?
< 1371244668 410916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one of what with the bitwise &?
< 1371244688 774303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it wasn't a bitwise &.
< 1371244702 947375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: Please fix your IRC client to send UTF-8 instead of ISO-8859-1 or whatever it is it does.
< 1371244708 949294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ?
< 1371244714 67642 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a and b were >= 2, right?
< 1371244746 77659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371244755 701289 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371244831 893789 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1371244858 971889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reducing the number of increments
< 1371244911 882227 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a and b coul be 1,13 and 4, then
< 1371244917 863839 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol oops.
< 1371245126 492221 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plv.csail.mit.edu/bedrock/ this seems this-channel-y.
< 1371245151 434974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wrongquestions.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/dark-knight.html you know i really am glad i found this thing
< 1371245206 464973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: cool
< 1371245844 53191 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371245900 757556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It may be the good idea. I like this ideas. Does it mean this "cross-platform machine language" can be compile into others? Can it work with self-modifying code? etc?
< 1371245912 99234 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me
< 1371245998 887226 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371246055 569149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of some kinds of extended sequent calculus, such as one where rules have priorities assigned and you are not allowed to use any rule unless there isn't any available rule of a higher priority, and rules with side effects, and possibly other things.
< 1371246138 581863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of strange logic can be made up with such things?
< 1371246675 739992 :`0x00!~ping@unaffiliated/0x00/x-2550036 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371246682 288388 :`0x00!~ping@unaffiliated/0x00/x-2550036 PART :#esoteric
< 1371246708 812293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they leave with such a nick they should fit right in
< 1371246735 913250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i had a dream that there were a bunch of `olist updates
< 1371246763 631314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you were probably just trapped by that illusion spell in the recent one
< 1371246787 567570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1371246826 180897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i have realized ))oh wait there are never a whole lot `olist updates at once(( and thereby become unillusioned
< 1371246827 639775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :two and six?
< 1371246854 322399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well there was several in a row earlier this year
< 1371246857 237408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*were
< 1371246876 926050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not at once
< 1371246955 185777 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, what am i thinking.
< 1371246968 94850 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait two and six should work.
< 1371247092 578372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes well he got paid a million dollars to do those nine in a row
< 1371247112 3972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.2e6 / 9
< 1371247112 882845 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  133333.33333333334
< 1371247124 203458 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of expensive imo
< 1371247126 531079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty good pay
< 1371247134 527155 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too
< 1371247191 928148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could have got awkward if he had had to stop after eight on the first try
< 1371247348 752088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is lambdabot notifying of messages in private now
< 1371247357 56836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371247360 226220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the meanwhile armikrog isn't even at its goal :'(
< 1371247370 706400 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: is it two and six this is bothering me now agh
< 1371247371 912167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's armikrog
< 1371247401 88812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan_
< 1371247423 767562 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait this won't work
< 1371247428 989535 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan
< 1371247436 57169 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so Pat knows the product 12 and Sam knows the sum 8.
< 1371247455 557675 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371247467 155167 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371247476 37059 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Hi
< 1371247476 133529 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371247477 420619 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sam thinks it's 2,6 or 3,5 but if it's 3,5, Pat would know them from their product
< 1371247486 449244 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371247492 856312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho hum
< 1371247560 671406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan yoerjan
< 1371247560 795640 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371247574 184355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1371247594 634644 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 could be 2,6 or 3,4 so Pat doesn't know.
< 1371247596 419428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list messages
< 1371247596 502392 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell provides: tell ask messages messages-loud messages? clear-messages
< 1371247649 249355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not 1,7 hth
< 1371247662 458518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not -5,13 hth
< 1371247699 331848 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were restricted to be between 2 and 99.
< 1371247738 843480 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Sam knows the sum is 8, a and b could be 3 and 5.  If they're 3 and 5, then Pat has the product 15 and can calculate a and b.  Sam knows that Pat doesn't know the answer, but if the sum is 8, Pat might know...
< 1371247757 880523 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right.
< 1371247768 809959 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did i get it right or what. i need riddle cred.
< 1371247784 625738 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. answers include: 7 and 37 and Sam and Pat are just not good at math
< 1371247887 476717 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: all possible a and b pairs that add up to the sum must contain at least one composite number.  Otherwise Sam can't possibly know that Pat doesn't know the answer.
< 1371247909 237477 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" 12 could be 2,6 or 3,4 so Pat doesn't know." <--- i read these as decimal numbers and was very confused hh
< 1371247913 503822 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth hth
< 1371247936 825453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your own fault for living in a country with dumb decimal formattign
< 1371247940 180356 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*formatting
< 1371247952 509960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Sam knew Pat didn't know the answer because he said so
< 1371247959 837392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that helps when proceeded by its quotation
< 1371247973 30930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :preceded
< 1371247974 955209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever the fuck
< 1371247979 753566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope never helps
< 1371247983 370139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371248012 301288 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you know how we write tuples
< 1371248044 175981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!a"�$%b*
< 1371248073 773935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :£ doesn't actually exist outside .uk
< 1371248078 548148 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there aren't any decimals in any of the numbers it's just (1, 2)
< 1371248079 139129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one has fonts for it
< 1371248085 853752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let (£) = (,)
< 1371248085 995742 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: Parse error in pattern: � �
< 1371248090 252752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffffffffff
< 1371248093 485834 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are, you gotta write (1,2; 3,4)
< 1371248109 539568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can land a man on the moon but we can't make a haskell eval bot that handles non-ASCII characters
< 1371248125 642190 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some people (even books) use . instead of \cdot to mean multiplication hth
< 1371248132 990295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i bet it'll handle iso-8859-1
< 1371248134 564569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371248138 845536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: typewritten ones?
< 1371248139 999358 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, people do that in americaland too.
< 1371248146 518627 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What value are a and b?
< 1371248146 625600 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 <= a <= b <= 99
< 1371248146 698016 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam knows the sum a + b.
< 1371248146 698186 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pat knows the product a * b.
< 1371248146 698295 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam says: "I don't know a and b. I also know that you don't know."
< 1371248147 178989 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pat says: "I do now!"
< 1371248147 323455 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam says: "So do I."
< 1371248147 429005 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they suck, but they do it.
< 1371248151 583338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :publishing maths before LaTeX was grim
< 1371248157 289993 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1371248169 950832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too complicated for me
< 1371248177 802376 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, actual modern typeset books
< 1371248285 102100 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard a story about some pre-latex textbook where the guy wrote "bla bla bla \epsilon" and then had a footnote at the bottom saying "\epsilon should be as small as possible"
< 1371248312 966645 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which the printers interpreted as an instruction to print the epsilon really tiny
< 1371248315 797233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey ghc is more complicated than all the moon landing software combined, of course it's harder hth
< 1371248357 199911 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's cute
< 1371248385 177312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good story
< 1371248403 268835 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: one of the traditional student songs here has a "but bigger!" in the middle because of an instruction the printers missed
< 1371248411 373141 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the story anyway)
< 1371248435 971214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Publishing maths works fine without LaTeX if you have Plain TeX + AMS fonts, or even AMS-TeX. (I suppose LaTeX might not be good enough either for some things, unless you are using AMS-LaTeX.)
< 1371248542 145389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, even Plain TeX alone has many math fonts, although sometimes you might want to add AMS fonts)
< 1371248569 256355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: clearly we are approaching someone making a limerick made solely out of proofreading notes
< 1371248615 341591 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: obviously
< 1371248807 595748 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371248847 873561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : first define determinants on matrices over a field F axiomatically as: alternating multilinear function (F^n)^n -> F s.t. det(I) = 1 <-- did you remember to prove that exists twh
< 1371248877 404428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you only need F to be a commutative ring iirc
< 1371248978 294299 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371248982 134045 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i forgot that part"
< 1371249184 949662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I do with an old expired passport?
< 1371249206 792956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sell it to someone as a fake passport.
< 1371249250 696238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the corners are cut to mark it as expired.
< 1371249579 648991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honest Shachaf's Fake Passport: We cut corners and pass the savings on to YOU!
< 1371249662 871919 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371249678 766938 :Candy92!~alex@78.159.223.150 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371249688 761603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I AM MANUALLY ADDING LENS TO LAMBDABOT SO HELP ME GOD <-- finally snapped?
< 1371249700 722052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan did you ever learn lens
< 1371249735 76399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat
< 1371249839 572212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/emmental/EmmUnl.hs
< 1371250263 689899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newPosMap ^. mapping swapped?
< 1371250538 860694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, what about that?
< 1371250614 23202 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice weed function
< 1371250710 879980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...too tired to read my own code :/
< 1371251012 623424 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam knows that Pat doesn't know: therefore the number Sam knows is not the sum of two primes. (A, B, or both are composite)
< 1371251012 739055 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pat figures out the numbers now he knows Sam knows he doesn't know: therefore there's only one way to factor the product Pat knows into two numbers whose sum is not also the sum of two primes.
< 1371251012 810982 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sam figures out the numbers now he knows Pat knows them: therefore there's only one pair of number which add up to the number Sam knows whose product can be factored into two numbers whose sum is not also the sum of two primes.
< 1371251018 957284 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something...
< 1371251048 749045 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just write it out in lens
< 1371251049 992655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right that's what the weed functions did
< 1371251142 491572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371251159 998331 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1371251178 181967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371251180 948782 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371251182 347209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grmbl
< 1371251194 732184 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371251223 165612 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://abload.de/img/dit83b2d.jpg
< 1371251228 884825 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry, wrong window
< 1371251260 577602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: :D
< 1371251266 929325 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi :P
< 1371251272 785121 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was expecting illegal porn. v. disappointed
< 1371251282 653949 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry bike, next time
< 1371251294 378424 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :partyb4rd
< 1371251297 338300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it _does_ say "fuck you" in german
< 1371251300 686134 :partyb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371251352 466573 :partyb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "how's your diet".."fuck you"
< 1371251354 649968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are amused
< 1371251358 145744 :partyb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad
< 1371251362 289674 :partyb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cu laters
< 1371251367 789195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the royal +v
< 1371251369 53865 :partyb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db409f7.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to get out
< 1371251370 33338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can i petition for kmc to be devoiced
< 1371251382 426340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure, just ask elliott 
< 1371251384 511174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: his nick is designed to be three letters long
< 1371251384 841965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my understanding that elliott is voice dictator for life
< 1371251390 32259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my alignment is getting messed up
< 1371251400 677755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :petition the ad-hoc subcommittee on voicings
< 1371251413 947805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :petitionmagic
< 1371251455 8500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey remember partitionmagic
< 1371251460 489074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was so good
< 1371251461 541063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371251467 412879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the floppy it could make
< 1371251476 215614 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371251484 713648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could boot to the floppy and it had a gui and everything
< 1371251504 646760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think I had a trial version of PartitionMagic that came with Red Hat Linux 6.0 in the back of a book about Red Hat Linux 6.0
< 1371251526 644129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah like a fake Windows 95 GUI
< 1371251528 319429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the best
< 1371251637 640300 :DANIELA!~yetzabeth@190.121.238.21 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371251658 669604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME DANIELA 
< 1371251661 688628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME DANIELA
< 1371251664 230360 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :DANIELA: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.)
< 1371251664 337407 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :DANIELA: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.)
< 1371251665 360221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1371251743 507309 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371251773 251607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how many people have left our channel in disgust because the welcome wiki links don't work
< 1371251795 575666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome works
< 1371251798 705119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08works:09 Welc14om02e to t10he international 02hub 07for esoteric program04ming lan12gua03ge design and de09ployment03! For m07ore inform04a09tion, ch08eck out our wi04ki: 12htt12p://esol14angs.or14g/wik08i/Ma14in_07P06age. (Fo04r the other08 ki06nd of08 e10soterica, t14ry #eso13teric07 on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371251817 236523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, except for the period. It links to [[Main page.]]
< 1371251823 539116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a great esolang name to me.
< 1371251888 799091 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truly.
< 1371252053 659319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit remarkable that no one has named something notable "main page" yet
< 1371252287 86929 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371252442 381735 :Candy92!~alex@78.159.223.150 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371252757 168593 :DANIELA!~yetzabeth@190.121.238.21 PART :#esoteric
< 1371253157 867668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is alonzo church's \f x -> f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f x)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
< 1371253316 123654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i mentioned that alonzo church's son dated haskell curry's daughter
< 1371253323 572738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, but it cannot be mentioned enough)
< 1371253330 741988 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they hot
< 1371253361 481610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :history does not, it seems, record
< 1371253369 520516 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame
< 1371253400 494622 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\f x -> f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f(f (f x))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) (*2) 1
< 1371253401 341250 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :1:423:
< 1371253401 449587 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :     parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatche...
< 1371253407 573007 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fck it
< 1371253424 102121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :('th birthday)
< 1371253566 183430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :f (u (c (k (i t))))
< 1371253586 936566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long can IRC channel topics be? asking for a friend
< 1371253638 507428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started writing a more concise lambda term for 110 but ran out of give a fuck
< 1371253656 508154 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :390, according to the server, which might be lying
< 1371253659 394487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there cool algorithms for finding the most concise lambda term for a given church numeral
< 1371253670 896325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:06 CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHARSET=ascii NICKLEN=16 CHANNELLEN=50 TOPICLEN=390 ETRACE CPRIVMSG CNOTICE DEAF=D MONITOR=100 FNC
< 1371253677 860300 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it basically the kolmogorov complexity
< 1371253696 578799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically.
< 1371253702 311867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1371253713 320631 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the cool algorithm is fuck you got mine
< 1371253720 311364 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could do something easyish like factoring
< 1371253722 653234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so lets say by 'most concise' i meant 'pretty concise' and only for small numbers
< 1371253730 254997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to use binary
< 1371253743 923223 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :log is pretty concise
< 1371253777 34128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got it working fine with 'let' in Haskell but transforming that to lambdas fails because lambda args are monomorphic
< 1371253782 974748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking types, am i right
< 1371253871 986629 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go shopping
< 1371254008 739453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\d s z -> d (s (d (s (d (s (d (d (d (s (d (s z))))))))))))(\n f x -> n f (n f x))(\n f x -> f (n f x))(\f x -> x)(+1)0
< 1371254009 624160 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  206
< 1371254012 441789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371254035 912564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\d s z -> d (s (d (s (d (s (d (d (s (d (s z))))))))))))(\n f x -> n f (n f x))(\n f x -> f (n f x))(\f x -> x)(+1)0
< 1371254036 752941 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  :1:56: parse error on input `)'
< 1371254044 758972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\d s z -> d (s (d (s (d (s (d (d (s (d (s z)))))))))))(\n f x -> n f (n f x))(\n f x -> f (n f x))(\f x -> x)(+1)0
< 1371254045 571785 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  110
< 1371254054 826416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. good
< 1371254133 751269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\d s o -> d (s (d (s (d (s (d (d (s (d o))))))))))(\n f x -> n f (n f x))(\n f x -> f (n f x))(\f -> f)(+1)0
< 1371254134 604080 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  110
< 1371254151 79912 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: help i can't tell how joking you are
< 1371254176 715454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, i am not joking
< 1371254199 133403 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i might just be wrong, i am basing this off some random internet rumours
< 1371254217 521931 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't find any citations at least...
< 1371254229 26754 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to find stuff on the personal lives of these people
< 1371254234 765025 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't quote me on the claim that they had a lovechild who went on to become 
< 1371254247 414411 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds kind of dumbassed
< 1371254248 149331 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/haskell-curry-yes-i-dated-his-daughter/
< 1371254260 731682 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want that you can just stick with the curies, not the curries
< 1371254275 5546 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but let's face it, Bike
< 1371254282 862524 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too perfect to not be true
< 1371254291 628133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lovechild who went on to become steve yegge
< 1371254332 219050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lovechild who went on to become benedict cumberbatch
< 1371254340 149082 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that guy real
< 1371254347 83852 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are chickens real
< 1371254366 851241 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maaaan
< 1371254401 97184 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is nooodl real
< 1371254415 829702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks chickens
< 1371254417 51916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, chickens. Thickens.
< 1371254437 139311 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no^[1]
< 1371254439 481986 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1]: http://zapatopi.net/belgium/
< 1371254611 707605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Benedict_Cumberbatch_2011_(jpg).jpg/220px-Benedict_Cumberbatch_2011_(jpg).jpg
< 1371254614 382615 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok seriously
< 1371254629 569043 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can people be so enamoured with a man who looks this posh
< 1371254747 265879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://redscharlach.tumblr.com/post/19565284869/otters-who-look-like-benedict-cumberbatch-a
< 1371254827 772893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sherlock hair people really did a great job of making him look normal
< 1371254841 75142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the into darkness couldn't match them and it shows
< 1371254956 806719 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.143.184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371255291 316583 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371255368 923492 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Active Worlds is now free
< 1371255625 38594 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371255806 327832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :active worlds free, real world still pretty oppressed
< 1371256428 602941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does +kmc indicate that your evil twin -kmc is on the loose
< 1371256441 981957 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means that he's really positive about what he's saying
< 1371256464 208483 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+kmc and *kmc form a field
< 1371256474 826657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he is the evil twin...........
< 1371256475 853008 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like um
< 1371256483 982451 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we collide +kmc and -cmk do we get annihilation?
< 1371256495 241375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what;s your spin
< 1371256507 403124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: cmk-
< 1371256507 743680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it means i'm at PLUS ONE on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulgin_Rating_Scale
< 1371256516 764705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, i don't think you need to reverse them
< 1371256521 960676 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you do
< 1371256524 935764 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's awesome
< 1371256529 372219 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but, like, parity, right?
< 1371256549 73258 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: PLUS FOUR is p. great
< 1371256565 353705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, if you're going for a quantum mechanics thing then probably
< 1371256567 865422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have been outlogicked
< 1371256583 158334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah good description
< 1371256583 292962 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry I was making a bad antimatter joke ._.
< 1371256631 636868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Did you hear of my new word, "antícheirocracy"?
< 1371256637 804125 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o?
< 1371256641 174951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so
< 1371256672 420043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you figure out what it means
< 1371256682 778441 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, is that anti-(cheirocracy)
< 1371256693 436628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371256713 256705 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheirocracy would be um... rule by asymmetry?
< 1371256721 6713 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-rule-by-asymmetry?
< 1371256752 772184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :antícheir or some variation means "thumb" hth
< 1371256759 496803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thumbocracy?
< 1371256771 919255 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cheirocracy' basically means 'rule by force' apparently
< 1371256785 846286 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule by giant talking thumbs
< 1371256797 413504 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs antícheirocracy
< 1371256838 142329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*past*
< 1371256840 607951 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.509
< 1371256842 42870 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/pastalog \ bin/pastaquote \ bin/paste \ bin/pastefortunes \ bin/pastekarma \ bin/pastelog \ bin/pastelogs \ bin/pastenquotes \ bin/pastequotes \ bin/pastewisdom \ bin/pastlog
< 1371256843 100202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :npt to be confused with "chairocracy", which is how Microsoft works.
< 1371256890 23963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371256893 43088 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rule of thumb"
< 1371256896 432375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sit in the corner
< 1371256907 712078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(remember those jokes) (nostalgia)
< 1371256915 519509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hi
< 1371256922 266352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION exploits content type sniffing on pastes to steal all your codu.org cookies

< 1371256938 637553 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's
< 1371256942 912076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's amazingly   amazingly horribly amazingh
< 1371256965 641350 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to hide her giggles while still at work

< 1371257022 409654 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sit in every corner
< 1371257034 537574 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__
< 1371257036 104347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi re msft
< 1371257073 613966 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn chairocracy
< 1371257074 733698 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "chairocracy".
< 1371257075 880950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chairs i guess
< 1371257110 828097 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :republican national convention joke
< 1371257115 169467 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :timely
< 1371257137 410926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "oldskool steve ballmer joke" hth
< 1371257139 528468 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a ballmer joke?
< 1371257251 653042 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a conservative, the only ballmer jokes i tolerate are developers
< 1371257264 257700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how can you sit in every corner........in a perfectly round room
< 1371257266 923347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1371257285 303981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/every/the/
< 1371257349 669888 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the power of calculus, there are infinite corners!!
< 1371257390 840044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the power of lies
< 1371257458 921706 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371257472 326901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371257511 765480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :czechmate
< 1371259125 636582 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eep. Saw an ad for Monster and confused it for Monster Cable for a second
< 1371259257 265973 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't hear the mosquito tone :(
< 1371259358 494710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean you are a mosquito
< 1371259375 884565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371259377 960297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that why
< 1371259459 754898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be sad because mosquitoes do not live very long
< 1371259600 457296 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a long-lived mosquito
< 1371259622 145529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to think of a way to link this to the picture of him in a blood costume
< 1371259677 464049 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosquito tone?
< 1371259688 75667 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one you can only hear until you're 20-something
< 1371259694 735449 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular as a ringtone among teenaged fuckheads
< 1371259715 482180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those bastards, making it so i can't be annoyed by their phones
< 1371259729 611520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a ringtone based on the shepard tone
< 1371259736 550669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s/the/a/????)
< 1371259742 797979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should make one
< 1371259746 150921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make one
< 1371259748 104509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using sox maybe
< 1371259757 114631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just like 'write a c program'
< 1371259759 986735 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371259777 168076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says that 18-24 can only hear up to ~16khz but I can hear the hihgest 18khz one fine
< 1371259783 573792 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this means I'm actually 17
< 1371259787 58345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fortune cookie fortune: "☺ Handsome is that handsome dose. ☺"
< 1371259788 328696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it varies
< 1371259788 436630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sic
< 1371259799 87781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: maybe your headphones are broken
< 1371259819 924116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's annoying because then they set it off in class and the other students have to convince the teacher that somebody's being a dick
< 1371259838 727161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug
< 1371259843 357210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let them work it out amongst themselves
< 1371259845 497571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stanford prison style
< 1371259865 466010 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good precedent
< 1371260060 186292 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritone_paradox hm i didn't know the absolute pitch bit
< 1371260472 917441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer program's strategy seems to always attack 74-gun ships. My strategy is to attack whichever ship the opponent has less of, and to otherwise attack many ships instead of always the same one (using 74-gun ships when attacking many and 64-gun ships when focusing my attacks on heavily damaged ships), making refit and extra damage cards worse for them.
< 1371260609 731133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it says that 18-24 can only hear up to ~16khz but I can hear the hihgest 18khz one fine
< 1371260634 206087 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back when i was a teenage fuckhead i knew a 50-odd-year-old who could hear it
< 1371260639 956896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was baffling
< 1371260667 613333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chosen one...
< 1371260831 707991 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Episode 1 will be released to the public in:
< 1371260831 780134 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 minutes  "
< 1371260839 268764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The seconds I guess I didn't manage to copy
< 1371260846 225740 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Episode 1 of RvB season 11)
< 1371260899 375456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no don't justify it I will use this as proof I'm not old yet <.<
< 1371260928 686029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you win with this strategy?
< 1371260939 866160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you're older than i am, therefore you're old
< 1371260942 496193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very simple logic
< 1371260959 459586 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1371260967 26381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Not always, but it seems to help a bit.
< 1371261018 542057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note that you can only make one attack per turn, and only attack one ship per turn, too. Also, some cards cause your own ships to catch fire and hit icebergs and sink and whatever.)
< 1371261086 631126 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The quoted figures are probabilistic.
< 1371261099 13120 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The typical 50 year old can't hear 18kHz.
< 1371261101 132487 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh kmc
< 1371261104 236566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1371261105 801739 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But individual 50 year olds sure can.
< 1371261107 668955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gosh pikhq
< 1371261113 926403 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never would've guessed that
< 1371261121 69345 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is proud to be a provider of obvious facts

< 1371261177 285276 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad thinks I might have hearing loss. I think I might have earwax
< 1371261184 471694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take Our Internet "Real Age" Quiz (using psychoacoustic observations)
< 1371261235 346061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up tritone paradox on youtube

< 1371261252 613791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how all of the demonstrations have a comment pointing out that there's an obvious discontinuity
< 1371261256 51735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <+kmc> we are amused  <+kmc> the royal +v
< 1371261259 719859 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1052) <+kmc> we are amused  <+kmc> the royal +v
< 1371261272 942222 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't... addquote yourself/
< 1371261277 782852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, if they have an equal number 74-guns and 64-guns, attacking the 74-guns ships is usually better since those ships can cause more damage with an attack. However, you need the correct 74-gun broadside or 64-gun broadside card for a kind of ship to attack, so if you think they have all 64-guns cards and the deck has mostly 64-guns cards then try attacking 64-guns ships.
< 1371261282 294933 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i assume the age test works by playing "Satisfaction" and "Runaway" back to back and asking which is "real music"
< 1371261296 820288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is my royal prerogative
< 1371261305 777841 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what if we don't know what either of them are
< 1371261315 767792 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you nerd
< 1371261322 951227 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1371261328 347306 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you've probably heard both of them at some point though)
< 1371261338 556931 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Runaway.
< 1371261340 290315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: have you considered that that's pretty rude to say all the time
< 1371261344 390265 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely know Satisfaction though.
< 1371261345 7066 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1371261353 166617 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "Let's have a toast to the douchebags"
< 1371261354 1377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know satisfaction from the sr3 soundtrack
< 1371261361 94610 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia finds like 15 songs called runaway
< 1371261366 173009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like a fair amount of music that was recoded decades before my birth
< 1371261367 535250 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess satisfaction is the rolling stones one?
< 1371261371 707236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's the kanye west one?
< 1371261375 808258 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be the one, Fiora.
< 1371261379 582372 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1371261379 870758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha
< 1371261384 304544 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :runaway is... a ... del shannon song?
< 1371261387 17940 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from 1961
< 1371261395 454689 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughing
< 1371261402 561358 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :r u ok
< 1371261405 481961 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :???
< 1371261430 264401 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't lie, i'm very confused
< 1371261441 782903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :As they say, "a good composer is a dead composer"
< 1371261452 263572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a decomposer
< 1371261494 279616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just making a joke about old people not liking rap
< 1371261497 425417 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't say that went well tbh
< 1371261523 109088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you think both or neither of them is "real music"?
< 1371261538 355812 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a lich, I guess
< 1371261581 60404 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe whatever Fiora is
< 1371261609 583619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure old people wouldn't be fond of satisfaction either
< 1371261707 438811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION listens to Runaway

< 1371261730 717429 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's this game that has 74-gun ships and whatnot?
< 1371261763 103052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Ship Of The Line, on the X-BIT BBS.
< 1371261785 733126 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am I o_O
< 1371261797 840458 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you're probably a human.
< 1371261832 964073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is a lich?
< 1371261869 890378 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so...
< 1371261888 954231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371261916 368855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah these are both 'real music'
< 1371261931 931328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :KMC HAS SPOKEN
< 1371261935 237955 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, I mean, I don't think I'm a lich.
< 1371261943 75278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: HAVE SPOKEN hth
< 1371261946 247538 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, guess kmc is a fiora
< 1371261948 791535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Have you double-checked?
< 1371261958 204980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could happen to you.
< 1371261968 25577 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks down, glances under her sleeves and at her hands

< 1371261971 535827 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :liches stay the same age forever
< 1371261973 971005 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it!
< 1371261983 234020 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees soft and warm "skin" that looks pretty alive

< 1371262000 474601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"alive" is just another word for "aging"
< 1371262005 431877 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::<
< 1371262009 847867 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you calling me old
< 1371262014 266531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting p. creepy
< 1371262018 317940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo give it serious consideration hth
< 1371262024 989057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you're older than you were this morning
< 1371262047 446132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a song about that..............
< 1371262072 233150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: am i right to conclude that this person in ##crypto is doing something shady AND will probably fuck up the crypto if left to their own devices
< 1371262077 607458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i should stop helpying them
< 1371262117 3763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I calling you old?
< 1371262134 253853 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am pretty sure I'm not a lich though staying the same age forever would be pretty nice
< 1371262134 325643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is timeless
< 1371262148 562037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe zzo38 is yoda
< 1371262155 830012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm not sure whether what they're doing is shady, but I doubt they'll get their cryptography thing right no matter what.
< 1371262166 443532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because they seem to be trying to do something impossible?
< 1371262171 614049 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is their cryptography thing
< 1371262174 555047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like impossible somethings
< 1371262185 84311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: have you considered lichification
< 1371262193 496236 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how to do that :/
< 1371262200 899282 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also kind of like being alive at least somewhat
< 1371262200 971283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Staying the same age forever would be pretty stupid.
< 1371262232 77893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever tried any of the alternatives?
< 1371262242 135889 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any of them let you go back
< 1371262248 156920 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imo if you did that, you would only exist for a single instant hth.
< 1371262250 230465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1371262261 865651 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :resurrection? reïncarnation? etc
< 1371262269 949068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of options
< 1371262271 663529 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-anyways um     I don't think this is really a comfortable subject but
< 1371262287 353735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371262372 855144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey why aren't you in ##fiora "the good channel for fiora discussions"
< 1371262384 500772 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody ever really talked there or anything...
< 1371262400 650764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1371262404 756644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people did
< 1371262422 886924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously they only talk when you aren't there hth
< 1371262438 989038 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, by the way, did you hear about summa technologica coming out in english.
< 1371262448 441994 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :technoligiae
< 1371262451 593793 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate latin
< 1371262454 688273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme summa that technologica
< 1371262479 117300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*o
< 1371262515 686850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Nope.
< 1371262668 16511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/the-art-of-conjecturing/
< 1371263251 250619 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have "Runaway" stuck in my head now.
< 1371263400 500743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you read _The Door Into Summer_
< 1371263451 737328 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371263509 858462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, imo read banks?
< 1371263560 327613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: imo why
< 1371263594 402722 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
< 1371263594 814205 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo because his books were very good
< 1371263677 779332 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of something, if you have a logic which you add another symbol and a rule to introduce it: ${}\vdash x\over{}\vdash\natural x$ where x is any single formula. Is there such things?
< 1371263706 189114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: imo which books
< 1371263712 538306 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1371263725 924745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with player of games, read use of weapons after that
< 1371263738 583587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: imo i'll give you my address and you can mail me a book and i'll read it hth
< 1371263944 868148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much will the postage cost?
< 1371263952 758629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, how much will the book cost?
< 1371264000 772036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure.
< 1371264023 747559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could send Phantom_Hoover a book in exchange if he wants.
< 1371264040 806196 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know better than to trust you with my address shachaf
< 1371264216 544131 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371264366 13155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i didn't
< 1371264391 648934 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask phantom_hoover why not just lie about your return address
< 1371264391 959889 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371264410 61104 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like he's never even mailed antrhax bombs before, honestly
< 1371264617 76851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he prefers bricks afaiu
< 1371265332 39308 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A terminal object is an initial object in the opposite category hth. I'm in #tswett and I have been nearly continuously for two months. 
< 1371265355 486414 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371265358 907308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ?
< 1371265375 816799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc knows all about terminal objects
< 1371265380 374972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :from working on mosh
< 1371265394 471959 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hth
< 1371266011 426341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1371266018 480308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i say v.v
< 1371266039 308311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :??
< 1371266041 771015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's v.v
< 1371266045 951499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :downcast
< 1371266065 809457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need rtti for that
< 1371266221 295406 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371266771 769853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey your city has the fancy gunshot location system doesn't it
< 1371266782 746505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it?
< 1371266789 763092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard a gunshot outside the other day
< 1371266802 480592 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that
< 1371266804 688193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about a system, though
< 1371266807 371433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think http://www.shotspotter.com/ was developed in Menlo Park and deployed in EPA
< 1371266812 750311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the first deployments I mean
< 1371266817 276647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you know where it came from
< 1371266847 35678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371266854 841696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you have both pull-up resistor and pull-down resistor on the same thing?
< 1371266954 943708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you waste energy
< 1371266998 313141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's pretty rude kmc
< 1371267001 486881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I would certainly think so, but what would be the logical result?
< 1371267004 189082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is not waste energy
< 1371267040 968409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have  +5V -/\/Ra\/\- input pin -/\/Rb\/\- GND  then the voltage at the input pin is 5 * (Ra / Rb)
< 1371267071 968576 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i've found something that looks worse linearly than math.
< 1371267074 226209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each logic family (e.g. TTL, CMOS) specifies a range of valid input voltages for a 0 and another range for 1
< 1371267092 166484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the input pin voltage falls outside both of those ranges then it's Undefined Behavior
< 1371267104 405449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so it depends on the logic family of electronics.
< 1371267116 111948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and the size of the resistors involved
< 1371267124 980341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by 'size' i mean 'resistance'
< 1371267236 856708 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the actual analog behavior is well defined innit
< 1371267263 994904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The analog behavior is the calculation like 5 * (Ra / Rb) and so on I guess
< 1371267289 694660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs logic when you have electrodynamics
< 1371267295 335903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this is the calculation then it must be 5 if it is equal, I guess.
< 1371267350 178984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, maybe there won't be enough current or enough power or impedance or whatever? Are those necessary too?
< 1371267401 921024 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just two resistors in series? that can't be very taxing.
< 1371267939 419319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for resistors, impedance and resistance are the same thing
< 1371267963 866017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for current, you need very little current to shove a CMOS input around.  other logic families may vary
< 1371267976 167653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too young and too shitty an EE to know anything about other logic families ;P
< 1371268059 1155 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man AC circuitry is way hard isn't it
< 1371268070 308886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fckin complex arithmetic
< 1371268079 296494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :complex arithmetic ain't shit
< 1371268088 224110 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quaternions 4 lyfe
< 1371268508 98186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucjk i can't even tell you how a transistor works
< 1371268689 135329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy who invented them got /two/ nobel prizes i think i'ts ok if you're not on that level dude
< 1371268701 408358 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371268715 861484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who shockley?
< 1371268733 27883 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bardeen
< 1371268745 98866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that guy
< 1371268749 932154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for him
< 1371268751 414473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My electronics teacher in school once tried to explain how a transistor works, but didn't do a very good job of that or of most other things. Some of the students weren't very good at it either. The teacher once said the simplest atom is the water atom, and had a schematic for blinking lights, which was wrong in a few ways.
< 1371268751 741120 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the balding guy"
< 1371268761 264712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shockley was an asshole anyway
< 1371268772 631098 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol eugenics advocate huh
< 1371268776 346296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371268805 225804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was an extra wire, and the transistors were labeled T1 and T2; I told him they should be Q1 and Q2 but he didn't believe me. I built it as it was, and mine didn't work even though the other students had it working. And then, I realized that the schematic was wrong so I had to cut one of the traces, and then it worked.
< 1371268843 590366 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a nice book debunking a lot of racist stuff the other day
< 1371268851 948486 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eugenics i guess
< 1371268860 648691 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :published 1911 "very influential"
< 1371268889 284877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they claim that eugenics doesn't work
< 1371268891 108390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just that it's bad
< 1371268900 739146 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it doesn't work
< 1371268903 299307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The teacher gave us resistors from some container with various resistors. Some of us had resistors with five or six bands, and he told us to discard them because they were diodes and not resistors.
< 1371268907 788744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not
< 1371268937 715381 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main comparison i remember that i thought was interesting was that when you compare it to livestock breeding, the major difference is that livestock are bred not only to have traits but also to have those traits breed true
< 1371268948 836649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not true in human populations except for very weird situations
< 1371268964 47195 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of very weird situations?
< 1371268968 714087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1371269049 333064 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the example given was some german (maybe? i forget) population that was "bred" for being spearmen and they got taller over time, or something likee that
< 1371269086 75669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also all the problems about heritability of intelligence, i guess, but IQ stuff wasn't very well developed in 1911 anyway
< 1371269105 451410 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read Mismeasure of Man but i'd probably recommend that on that topic
< 1371269146 107204 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly not as simple as "kids born to smart parents are guaranteed to be smart" or the same with s/smart/dumb/
< 1371269149 62637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose if they want to do that they can, but they should only do it voluntarily. If you do not want to be bred then you shouldn't. Also, it is more complicated than just that; a lot of these traits aren't done like this anyways.
< 1371269164 948694 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even remotely, no
< 1371269183 15173 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371269191 748668 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another thing that was very interesting was detailed information on morphological racial differences, which i'd never seen before
< 1371269197 744304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people may have thought it does but really a lot of it isn't.
< 1371269210 51664 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people from Tuscany have this average and mean height, while people from Rome have this (different!) average and mean
< 1371269225 660769 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, IQ was only really intended as a diagnostic tool for certain sorts of mental deficits anyways.
< 1371269228 669360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, average and std. deviation.
< 1371269261 555650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, yes, IQ works to do that, at least. Not everything else they call IQ.
< 1371269271 429840 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also found out that native Australians are pretty distant phylogenically from other non-African populations, which I didn't know
< 1371269286 942929 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it only even functions within its design to detect disability...
< 1371269293 634632 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Aye. People are idiots.
< 1371269304 545329 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but /how idiotic/ i need numbers pikhq!
< 1371269315 119696 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess that would sort of imply they came over when there was a land bridge or something and evolved for a (relatively speaking) long period without mixing?
< 1371269343 883768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a land bridge to australia? not /that/ long ago, good god
< 1371269360 764250 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there one during the ice age?
< 1371269362 929284 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, relatively early migrants from africa
< 1371269372 950146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the lower sea levels
< 1371269375 641389 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I define IQ as whatever your score would be on an ideal IQ test (which cannot actually exist), where 100 is average.
< 1371269381 935049 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, like zealandia
< 1371269383 65364 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno
< 1371269385 583562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't the same as intelligence even though there is somewhat related.
< 1371269396 968510 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.planetaryvisions.com/thumbs_new/2226_ban.jpg
< 1371269408 567156 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you  meant like when australia and antarctica were connected, lol
< 1371269424 91206 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh no not that XD
< 1371269426 95421 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :australia and asia
< 1371269432 8725 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa shit, i didn't know indonesia was that shallow.
< 1371269509 163534 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :related but not really: malagasy is an austronesian language that is the craziest shit
< 1371269571 697817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«It is believed that first human migration to Australia was achieved when this landmass formed part of the Sahul continent, connected to the island of New Guinea via a land bridge. It is also possible that people came by boat across the Timor Sea. The exact timing of the arrival of the ancestors of the Indigenous Australians has been a matter of dispute among archaeologists. The most generally accepted date for first arrival is between 40 00
< 1371269595 4650 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess you're right fiora. have you considered a career in paleoanthropology
< 1371270013 562497 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... I don't think so
< 1371270047 57419 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame, i think you've got the knack
< 1371270066 729755 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just guessing
< 1371270314 105533 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.www.extra-www.org/
< 1371270681 684265 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hey, nice.
< 1371270686 808122 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :example.com resolves.
< 1371270688 880823 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't realize.
< 1371271443 888729 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/f5a1ce60a792a7ea198f55b208f2be57/tumblr_moes1iBMYN1r59os8o1_400.jpg the new animal ccrossing game has latex support, supposedly
< 1371271506 627488 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rhoa
< 1371271508 766118 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Whoa
< 1371271551 285235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i look forward to seeing advances in HoTT made by cute animal things
< 1371271658 593685 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :H
< 1371271660 241495 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HoTT?
< 1371271670 887184 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homotopy type theory
< 1371271680 368042 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a thing some people in here like that i have no idea about
< 1371271803 989394 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a math thing*
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< 1371271839 797950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :main :: IQ ()
< 1371273135 865822 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371273921 524389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crickets chirp
< 1371274294 679833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, now it is IQ.
< 1371274332 134431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type IQ a = () -> IO a
< 1371274343 987956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⸘who's the function now‽
< 1371275070 764564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not i
< 1371275167 925370 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kiunaf
< 1371275200 204873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :main ist keine Funktion
< 1371275231 729733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TikZ ist kein Zeichenprogramm
< 1371275649 181216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: since bloom filters usually don't use cryptographic hash functions are there situations where you can attack them in interesting ways
< 1371275654 933969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they used for anyway
< 1371275762 396327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main application I know of is reducing the number of misses on an expensive cache
< 1371275815 589261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of cache?
< 1371275830 800338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever sort
< 1371275832 456631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :caches anywhere
< 1371275842 928287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any kind of lookup data structure, doesn't have to be a cache
< 1371275864 220141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i interviewed at Mozilla we talked about using Bloom filters to speed up the matching of elements to CSS rules
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< 1371282253 681786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @nietzsche_ebooks
< 1371282356 884063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my resistor equation before was wrong
< 1371282381 555369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ^
< 1371282386 110754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said 5 * (Ra / Rb) meaning the voltage is 5 for equal resistors, but it should be 2.5
< 1371282397 175393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371282452 796851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :point is the 5V drop is split between the two resistors linearly according to their resistances
< 1371282466 485568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
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< 1371282805 642359 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I dreamt about greeting people
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< 1371295029 121711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 GHC actually goes to a lot of trouble to uncurry functions for efficiency (passing multiple arguments at once in registers and so on). Functions in Haskell work the way they do for user convenience much more than compiler convenience.
< 1371295029 212706 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371296137 274608 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC does a lot work to optimise code
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< 1371306188 102836 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371306923 159237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wait
< 1371306928 884327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't Gregor have voice
< 1371306954 196566 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc stole it
< 1371306961 778768 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Gregor
> 1371306962 407189 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371306975 601133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god
< 1371307308 127990 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg what is going on here
< 1371307337 97098 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you neeed that fot
< 1371307343 494979 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for
< 1371307412 713159 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :egalité mes amis
< 1371307448 990483 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371307454 415289 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo hagb4rd should have voice
< 1371307532 6611 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea.. i would sing for you all night
< 1371307549 873807 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had boobs too
< 1371307562 968095 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's another story
< 1371307678 270609 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this... is this something you want to talk about?
< 1371307748 481295 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i want to blame kmc and gregor for their lack of integrity
< 1371307802 627038 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think either kmc or Gregor make a habit of disintegrating boobs?
< 1371307822 323646 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1371307871 830292 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1371307901 946050 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but for real..why?
< 1371307911 404298 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a joke?
< 1371307977 740986 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A somewhat obtuse one, I apologize
< 1371307999 791187 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not you're cool attriq
< 1371308018 732277 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :hagb4rd
> 1371308018 775379 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371308026 95847 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean why do they expose admin state?
< 1371308030 292621 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aarrg
< 1371308033 744954 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PART :#esoteric
< 1371308036 858461 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371308039 647901 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371308039 967962 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :hagb4rd
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< 1371308043 921119 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude
< 1371308045 905339 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boobs expose admin state?
< 1371308048 448743 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's your destiny
< 1371308058 996297 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371308060 899509 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371308063 229126 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371308067 528641 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371308069 892395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371308080 107744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like the good old days
< 1371308086 526258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad shachaf isn't here eh
< 1371308114 124231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean I get op? :o
< 1371308127 566249 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have boobs?
< 1371308146 680166 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, yes, I guess I do?
< 1371308159 943510 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well..make my day!      
< 1371308161 265227 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p
< 1371308212 203451 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean...?
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< 1371308228 235995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means he doesn't get voice any more
< 1371308248 958415 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about voice while having boobs
< 1371308253 970612 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1371308263 20503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you drunk or something
< 1371308263 885341 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see you just don't understand :/
< 1371308274 622205 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean you always sound like you're drunk, but...
< 1371308285 329687 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.. i'm fine
< 1371308296 510281 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just chatting
< 1371308313 381682 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you ehirdboy?
< 1371308356 589719 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have to work on your soft skills
< 1371308377 243194 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is quilting a soft skill
< 1371308424 270855 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quilting, knitting, embroidery
< 1371308462 583364 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly does voice do...?
< 1371308475 246429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing unless the channel is +m
< 1371308478 150569 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1371308484 43750 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe it cancels out +q too?
< 1371308485 188575 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so him getting/notgetting voice doesn't... actually mean anything
< 1371308493 933998 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371308497 942379 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not
< 1371308499 613687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had op once
< 1371308502 309942 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a stigmate
< 1371308504 272309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a figurehead position! like the queen
< 1371308512 157618 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kicked kmc because he was a bear
< 1371308658 510607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote attention
< 1371308664 594017 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :600)  Vorpal: I was paying too much attention to elliott and not enough to my HP \ 1005)  I've also pretended to be Queen Elizabeth the first, but that was a desperate plea for attention
< 1371309069 128386 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed the hi
< 1371309069 680396 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371309087 802587 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371309119 833041 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371309122 460191 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371309148 127454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371309232 401812 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371309596 901876 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great creepy m83 rmx by Trentemøller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfyT56_kmTE ..enjoy
< 1371309611 545536 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a masterpiece
< 1371309787 963832 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@77.49.108.183.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1371310292 378705 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about soft skills.. do you know DISCO? http://disco-tools.eu/disco2_portal/terms.php
< 1371310361 169076 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty good at disco dancing
< 1371310410 921919 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may help while creating profiles, CV.. especially on the global market
< 1371311401 129062 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1371312754 976838 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 QUIT :Quit: itsy
< 1371312758 649877 :muslim3arby!~muslim3ar@41.234.30.211 QUIT :Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.))
< 1371312797 771441 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7tt3ULj8Xg
< 1371312819 444840 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets mode to *screensaver*

< 1371312868 587528 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good music is better"
< 1371313055 719860 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371313106 890429 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1371313953 356737 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
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< 1371314136 714580 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did Magnatune turn evil?
< 1371314166 521793 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :three thousand moons ago, on the Day of Darkness
< 1371314214 862209 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to be able to listen to the music ad-free online
< 1371314222 502849 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to be able to buy individual songs
< 1371314225 325404 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and albums
< 1371314251 562108 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's at least one album that relied on that
< 1371314261 359861 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On not having ads in the middle of each track)
< 1371314718 757654 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-201-64.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: abandoning elliott, wish me luck~
< 1371316704 541171 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hi
< 1371316904 868715 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELO
< 1371316949 335296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you want to see me fuck around with lambdabot
< 1371316996 406175 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sure
< 1371317009 229024 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#bike
< 1371317092 566187 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1371317406 222129 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be the best way to prove that 9 is more than 4
< 1371317494 982998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 = S (S (S (S (S (S (S (S (S 0)))))))))
< 1371317499 472966 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 = S (S (S (S O))))
< 1371317502 858391 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371317552 371244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall n, n <= n; forall m n, m <= n -> m <= S n
< 1371317572 637697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < n = S m <= n
< 1371317581 662080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :m > n = n < m
< 1371317611 513797 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks elliott
< 1371317613 393021 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, elliott. Thelliott.
< 1371317624 850146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eagerly awaiting your proof
< 1371317685 961289 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't defined < and >
< 1371317857 72718 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371318114 718491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, your equation for the voltage looked wrong to me too
< 1371318255 150046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: er, yes I did?
< 1371318258 671697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of <=
< 1371318268 641512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TNT has no < and > so it is defined in terms of what it does have. TNT doesn't have <= either.
< 1371318276 42940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: perhaps my use of = confuses you
< 1371318281 886238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was intended as a definitional
< 1371318290 366714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(m < n) := (S m <= n)
< 1371318385 462763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < b : exists c. a + S c = b
< 1371318537 518876 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, does http://hpaste.org/89968 look right?
< 1371318549 533015 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am unsure how to format this kind of proof
< 1371318619 529165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you probably need explicit quantification for the cases of each proposition, given that you say "n <= m" but then give a case for "n <= S m"
< 1371318640 441038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also recommend using digits throughout since the nested Ses is ugly :P
< 1371318642 301896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are ugly
< 1371318657 671433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, looks right to me
< 1371319061 267927 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371319322 342476 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, finished season 1
< 1371319571 445506 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good, now watch season 2
< 1371319881 970700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what?
< 1371320042 50621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farscape
< 1371321143 422426 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371322127 527216 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, finished first ep of season 2
< 1371322136 591693 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should go out to get a haircut soon
< 1371322145 155117 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't had a haircut in about 9 months
< 1371322154 995527 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe have a haircut then
< 1371322173 335058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so crazy it might work
< 1371322224 480634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next time i get my hair cut well I need to take a picture and keep it on my phone so that at subsequent haircuts I can just be like "DO THIS"
< 1371322251 341174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just go for "make it half as long"
< 1371322252 387709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not good at describing how i want my hair cut, but i'm not very picky either
< 1371322262 696817 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did that and also had the person write down what they did
< 1371322269 996900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hair cuts are for losers, hope this helps
< 1371322445 474803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made a sequent calculus for Turing machines; can a sequent calculus be made for sokoban, and for chess, etc?
< 1371322499 284005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume so
< 1371322544 915307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make a sequent calculus for sequent calculii
< 1371322573 196913 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc having voice is so reassuring
< 1371322579 369423 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371322598 694966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you know how to make a sequent calculus for sequent calculii?
< 1371322635 761777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in these days of crisis it's important to have a strong leader
< 1371322651 117840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i promise to give up my emergency powers as soon as the crisis is over
< 1371322653 17095 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, guys
< 1371322669 977513 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to read to really understand monads?
< 1371322690 264849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean in the context of Haskell?
< 1371322696 40700 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371322710 231404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/FAQ#The_M-word
< 1371322716 412161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand it by understanding category theory a little bit and seeing how it is related to Haskell.
< 1371322718 290410 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :D
< 1371322719 208711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er scratch the first two words of that
< 1371322721 247567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read my link
< 1371322763 335813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's less an explanation of monads and more an attempt to debunk various myths
< 1371322778 584701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the myths and misunderstanding are usually the big obstacle
< 1371322789 12014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end Monad is just the name of a pretty simple typeclass in the standard library
< 1371322802 380943 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, that is mainly it.
< 1371322812 324206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://monads.haskell.cz/html/index.html has some examples of different standard monads and what they can be used for
< 1371322830 228058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do the later chapters of http://learnyouahaskell.com/chapters
< 1371322840 452637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/All_About_Monads is canonical link i believe
< 1371322843 458300 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :re monads.haskell.cz
< 1371322844 354056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371323176 611179 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard monads are like burritos or space suits full of nuclear waste. Is that true?
< 1371323180 109713 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :D
< 1371323209 934979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I don't think so.
< 1371323253 74053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote that FAQ and i think a bit of my frustration with haskell myths shows through :3
< 1371323264 652069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it helps some people, to understand it like that. I find to understand the mathematics of it, helps a bit more than those kind of things. However, best is to see that, it is one class used for common operations of some types in Haskell.
< 1371323300 920564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :These analogies are not helpful. See "Abstraction, intuition, and the 'monad tutorial fallacy"'.
< 1371323303 924206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good quote nesting
< 1371323314 595819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1371323321 381419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if i can blame pandoc somehow
< 1371323341 320003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to end kmc's career with this juicy mistake
< 1371323349 443662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody will ever trust him again!!
< 1371323368 68664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::<
< 1371323461 664364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1371323486 826614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might even lose his voice
< 1371323506 657743 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, yeah, i'd prefer understanding the mathematics
< 1371323550 23749 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371323554 132328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the special connection between mathematics and Haskell is overrated
< 1371323569 350232 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think?
< 1371323581 51196 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i like about haskell is this
< 1371323582 944009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: disagree. the idea that it is scary and mysterious and complicated is overrated
< 1371323584 225772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(category_theory)
< 1371323587 939442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the connection is strong
< 1371323603 928915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets played up a lot both by detractors who want an excuse not to learn Haskell, and by excited newbies who don't know what they're talking about
< 1371323607 932922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: After you read it, you can follow the link at the top of the article for more description of how it is related to computer programming.
< 1371323638 278979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :note i said 'special connection', programming in general is deeply connected to maths, but the idea that you need some huge maths knowledge to use Haskell that isn't necessary for other languages is ridiculous
< 1371323660 956110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do need to learn new /concepts/ for Haskell but they aren't really more or less "mathematical" than other programming language concepts
< 1371323668 139419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need some huge maths knowledge to use Haskell but it can help to understand it.
< 1371323671 297845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1371323674 463565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I worry that mathematics in general, and the mathematics that is relevant to Haskell specifically, has its reputation harmed by being quick to decry the idea that haskell is "mathy", because it often comes out like "you don't need to know about weird category theory category morphism cococofunctors!!!!", which is just an insult to CT)
< 1371323683 221228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of cool connections if you want to go looking for them
< 1371323700 467037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean you need them to get shit done
< 1371323707 280772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This mathematical stuff is what I like about Haskell programming
< 1371323715 497834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and generally feeds antiintellectualism in programmer culture: someone says "haskell is scary because of the maths" and your response is "don't worry, it's not scary, no maths here" -- implicitly accepting that "maths" is a reason something can be scary!)
< 1371323717 553536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :different people like different things about Haskell
< 1371323728 12711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fair points
< 1371323743 301210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, generic "your", fwiw
< 1371323763 134765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still I want to go after the idea that you need to "understand category theory" or even "understand monads" (with a small m) to use Haskell
< 1371323798 4919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think of it more like: you can learn Haskell, and you'll be learning mathematics, because Haskell has a deep connection to mathematics and exposes you to a lot of it, whether you realise it or not. it's not additional work you have to perform to "understand Haskell", rather it's additional gain you get out of learning Haskell
< 1371323806 196941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm
< 1371323809 444406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't to say that learning Haskell maeks you a CT whiz or whatever
< 1371323826 250140 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the connections aren't as simplistic as that
< 1371323846 441857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i agree it's an important fight
< 1371323851 830395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, of course you don't need to understand; actually you don't even need to understand the Monad type class except for a little bit which is how it is used with IO monad.
< 1371323855 848094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wish the weapons used were less heavy-handed
< 1371323875 694776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell community also makes a lot of claims that don't pan out, e.g.  "We can prove things in the type system! Curry-Howard!"  "but isn't every type inhabited by ⊥"
< 1371323898 303517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Haskell is a great language for static analysis!"  "name one static analyzer besides the GHC typechecker"
< 1371323902 428419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1371323922 659217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is a shit language for static analysis but there are loads of static analyzers for C because it's industrially important
< 1371323922 962654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fwiw, I haven't seen anyone talk about proving things except from a newbie-asking-a-question POV, but may be sample error)
< 1371323937 182875 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "haskell is a great language for mental analysis" :)
< 1371324123 413581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know, engineering effort is trivial, so the fact that someone *could* write a static analyzer for Haskell is just as good as the dozens of existing static analyzers for other languages
< 1371324212 542608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a #haskell thing for sure
< 1371324243 572176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember someone was talking about being tied to the JVM and the answer was like "you're an idiot for using the JVM, just write a custom compiler from all your JVM code to Haskell and get it working on your MLoC codebase on every platform"
< 1371324290 526240 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I guess other languages that would be good with static analysis, like Racket, that doesn't mean that that's a good reason to go with that approach to metaprogramming if no one is going to build tools for it...
< 1371324301 571433 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although actually, I guess Typed Racket counts
< 1371324317 811965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Haskell tooling situation is kind of disappointing
< 1371324328 40047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that the only declarative debugger is bitrotted :/
< 1371324380 243016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think #haskell's problems are more mundane these days, at least :)
< 1371324383 573091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371324392 180413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well done new #haskell mods
< 1371324393 139376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not necessarily a good thing :P)
< 1371324399 547000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the new problems
< 1371324415 628437 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1371324420 520340 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first thing i learned
< 1371324427 124502 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :category theory is strange
< 1371324427 441522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly noise and outright trolling, I'd say
< 1371324437 440837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the stereo and bad answes are still there
< 1371324452 329134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just feels like the bad answers are more boring now :P
< 1371324480 77346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bummer
< 1371324500 688253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I don't know
< 1371324508 965693 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stereo?
< 1371324511 279021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mean that the number of specific weird memes that people parrot seems to be decreasing
< 1371324516 959328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps inevitably as the channel grows bigger
< 1371324522 5054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big is it now
< 1371324525 254507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1k users
< 1371324528 135338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus
< 1371324530 839621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1035 right now
< 1371324530 910405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand
< 1371324533 406051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :top 5 on freenode i think
< 1371324559 246370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it might just be that less popular weird memes die out and other ones grow stronger, rather than an absolute decrease in the number of weird-meme-parrotting
< 1371324570 756969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does a strange language that not very many people actually use have such a huge number of IRC lurkers
< 1371324593 243581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, commercial haskell is getting more prominent, I think. especially with e.g. FP Complete and stuff now
< 1371324614 653363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and also, Haskell has quite a strong presence in university courses
< 1371324621 645071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess so
< 1371324622 420718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of people join for that kind of thing
< 1371324632 10611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sometimes in a blatantly "do my homework" for me sense)
< 1371324667 477701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people in the channel never talk though
< 1371324675 372257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think most people who show up to ask a specific question don't hang around
< 1371324706 153879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though
< 1371324721 140336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371324872 523299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the things I complain about might just be things that happened once and really pissed me off
< 1371324875 707904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than recurring patterns
< 1371324882 98700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are definitely recurring patterns though
< 1371324894 195932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should join to refine your sample!!
< 1371324942 3699 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371325005 211139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth a try
< 1371325094 719828 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad
< 1371325096 795565 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
< 1371325114 148904 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really sit down and figure out how that statement is true one day...
< 1371325125 904888 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nid wyf yn y swyddfa? that sounds similar to the "pleidol wyf i'm gwlad" from british one-pound coins
< 1371325129 796754 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? endofunctor
< 1371325131 845387 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories.
< 1371325139 926177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: it's pretty simple
< 1371325145 595398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more correct to say they're monoid *objects*, no?
< 1371325161 519598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't think so
< 1371325161 591345 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing the binary op. is >=>?
< 1371325164 999465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh wikipedia says they're synonyms
< 1371325170 531473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: no
< 1371325171 325182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no
< 1371325181 794832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people relate the `? monad quip with (>=>) forming a monoid with return all the time
< 1371325187 523604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's completely wrong
< 1371325196 962463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to generalise your notion of "monoid"
< 1371325200 277542 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371325208 429026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind of "monoid" being used here is one that exists "in a monoidal category"
< 1371325222 18897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just a value and a function in Set
< 1371326575 32528 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1371327192 275135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, it's like, return :: a -> (m a) is in a sense the identity element
< 1371327219 555963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and join :: (m (m a)) -> (m a) is the monoid operation
< 1371327242 820955 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa what
< 1371327257 591501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :return is the family of identity morphisms of the Kleisli category.
< 1371327274 37527 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :join isn't binary
< 1371327278 274028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371327279 529384 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should look up what a monoidal category
< 1371327281 554523 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+is
< 1371327292 376521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The composition is (<=<)
< 1371327303 506819 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it operates on (m (m a))
< 1371327313 617605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two m's are the binary part, essentially
< 1371327342 220979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that part forms a monoid, too
< 1371327365 218896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :join :: (m . m) ~> m
< 1371327370 341421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mappend :: (m , m) -> m
< 1371327373 570507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that.
< 1371327420 254648 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh! http://stackoverflow.com/a/3870310 this explains it pretty well
< 1371327433 216987 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...with product × replaced by composition of endofunctors" <-- like, this is pretty crucial
< 1371327477 636115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that product in a monoid is also called composition.
< 1371327502 545602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the answer below that is incredibly awful
< 1371327504 892467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just in a different category.
< 1371327512 331606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, http://blog.sigfpe.com/2008/11/from-monoids-to-monads.html
< 1371327513 169470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :read that
< 1371327555 646575 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i like how it doesn't even mention the word "endofunctor"
< 1371327590 875033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it has 81 points and a lot of people talking about how great it is.
< 1371327960 549585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait
< 1371327968 817110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is <#> a standard operator or something
< 1371328035 107713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<£>
< 1371328039 921559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: He defines it in that article.
< 1371328050 802838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's defined later
< 1371328072 329943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why are you voiced
< 1371328078 238235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great writing
< 1371328093 537314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think you're better than us
< 1371328102 108039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember why
< 1371328158 818206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc got drunk and the next thing he knew he woke up voiced
< 1371328164 559424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i say he got drugz #drugz
< 1371328167 740560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:36 <+ion> A number of channels use +v as the idiot flag.
< 1371328184 330982 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-ops does that
< 1371328199 925964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is me and shachaf are +v in #haskell-ops, hth)
< 1371328214 783087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that ops are +v in #haskell-ops
< 1371328234 579052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that #haskell-ops bold
< 1371328242 502219 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371328244 224396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371328261 852663 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371328263 742949 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks bold
< 1371328270 475082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bold and daring
< 1371328300 786764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :courageous and innovative
< 1371328341 494648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ops reinvented
< 1371328371 899338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ops that respect craftsmanship (am i doing this right)
< 1371328391 643888 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-ops #haskell-ops
< 1371328401 904041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :respect isn't enough you have to celebrate craftsmanship
< 1371328402 670458 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do these both look bold elliott
< 1371328402 889441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :4#haskell-ops
< 1371328418 532441 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i did it wrong
< 1371328481 264494 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well no
< 1371328485 578512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-ops
< 1371328498 653831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wow did you see what Phantom_Hoover did........
< 1371328517 710989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371328524 619229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did Phantom_Hoover did
< 1371328528 664158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:30:48 -!- Phantom_Hoover [~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486] has joined #haskell-ops
< 1371328529 645486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said oops!
< 1371328531 669794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:30:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover [~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486] has left #haskell-ops ["Leaving"]
< 1371328541 637989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was BLIND REFLEX
< 1371328543 494691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all blinking text has the same frequency and phase, right
< 1371328549 439528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: unfortunately, yes
< 1371328562 171843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: next Sgeo will join..............
< 1371328568 876647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear he does that
< 1371328590 27945 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok Sgeo.
< 1371328591 229653 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck.
< 1371328596 915520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is wrong with you.
< 1371328611 822133 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371328622 113940 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice until you pinged me
< 1371328632 592949 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did see the topic though
< 1371328634 464768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you should stop doing that immediately.
< 1371328643 392030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only joined to see if Sgeo was there!
< 1371328680 123461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assign copumpkin to ban you all
< 1371328697 290953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd had voice too
< 1371328713 455793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: being in -ops when you're not an op is such a terrible offense................
< 1371328724 319457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes
< 1371328727 360628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it should be criminalised
< 1371328732 940322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo hagb4rd should always have voice
< 1371328733 621590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that elliott did it for months
< 1371328788 102867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :honorary op since birth
< 1371328945 184056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: (btw the "what is wrong with you" wasn't due to the delay in joining it was due to the joining)
< 1371328952 546053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't notice your response until now)
< 1371329000 142692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sda sda1 sdb sdb1 sdc sdc1 sdd sdd1 sde sde1 sdf sdf1 sdg sdg1 sdh sdh1 sdi sdi1 sdj sdj1 sdk sdk1 sdl sdl1 sdm sdm1 sdn sdn1 sdo sdo1 sdp sdp1
< 1371329001 667439 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least I left
< 1371329009 447439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does your +v in this channel mean you're an op
< 1371329017 75260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what channel
< 1371329021 973337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel
< 1371329026 586309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you gotta tell me if you're an op
< 1371329027 229120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not
< 1371329030 233237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371329037 216457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  kmc: you gotta tell me if you're an op
< 1371329041 658446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1053)  kmc: you gotta tell me if you're an op
< 1371329121 392138 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd totally told me earlier that I should get op
< 1371329129 808859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi
< 1371329140 933393 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that is true Fiora
< 1371329159 623469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Come on. What kind of op would you be?
< 1371329167 456031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ops need to rule with an iron fist!
< 1371329173 923268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that is an impressively charitable interpretation of hagb4rd
< 1371329190 29666 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bronze fist does 9999 damage on criticals.
< 1371329198 360680 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: admittedly I don't think I'd do anything
< 1371329202 456098 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get it on level 96.
< 1371329216 100435 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's a less charitable interpretation?
< 1371329250 723082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm good hagb4rd in th logs
< 1371329257 335255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by good i mean typical)
< 1371329273 804026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I admit I never have almost any idea what hagb4rd is trying to say.
< 1371329280 866833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iron fist? Bronze fist? Maybe you can use a paper fist.
< 1371329285 842133 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh -_- so he's like shachaf
< 1371329296 283761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, a fist is rock. A flat palm is paper.
< 1371329307 500281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Ouch.
< 1371329307 572352 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The iron fist just randomly inflicts confuse.
< 1371329323 851789 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371329329 436625 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I-I didn't mean that... I just meant that I can never underst-- sorry
< 1371329335 442920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :underst++
< 1371329347 338875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's OK.
< 1371329363 854780 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :underst-- this is a democracy shachaf 
< 1371329372 142285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stoned. Ripped. Twisted. Good people.
< 1371329374 770840 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. But maybe iron and broze fist is no good.
< 1371329376 389224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg lambdabot underst++
< 1371329377 682614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma underst
< 1371329377 814984 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :underst has a karma of 0
< 1371329406 23488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :underst++
< 1371329419 908235 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unrest'd.
< 1371329474 793333 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also today in the bus there was someone with pink hair and cat ears and a painted-on-face grin; I think there's some sort of a "con" going on in this country.
< 1371329489 43019 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: rebooting
< 1371329489 962968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn con
< 1371329491 320168 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "con" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1371329491 415639 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :con
< 1371329491 487223 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    adv 1: in opposition to a proposition, opinion, etc.; "much was
< 1371329491 487420 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :           written pro and con" [ant: {pro}]
< 1371329491 487532 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: an argument opposed to a proposal [ant: {pro}]
< 1371329493 322366 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15 @more lines]
< 1371329509 546456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So you saw a con artist?
< 1371329554 150968 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... guess? (There were four of them, but that one was easiest to describe.)
< 1371329729 467184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bash.org/?12431
< 1371329751 207057 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371329859 437127 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, fun fact: Active Worlds has Peacekeepers
< 1371329874 116006 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371329875 29067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1
< 1371329885 431955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :q
< 1371329998 274732 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, as in, just the name?
< 1371330010 670220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the name
< 1371330018 924719 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://peacekeeper.net/
< 1371330026 387790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog shachaf.*fact n
< 1371330040 43969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name is, er
< 1371330043 722127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very distinctive
< 1371330053 515573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any fact relating to Active Worlds can really be called fun...
< 1371330057 771772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371330072 131499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog shachaf.*\|.*fact
< 1371330072 880922 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, hey, that's unfair
< 1371330073 76310 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the fact that anyone can go in there and delete some historical property
< 1371330084 345248 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-04-04.txt:03:23:55:    | fact n = n * fact (n - 1)
< 1371330086 76760 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not sure if that's still the case going forward, but it has been the case for a long time)
< 1371330092 230122 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thackego
< 1371330115 531363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why didn't the other search find it?
< 1371330172 57894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue
< 1371330176 606427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it timed out or something
< 1371330205 110331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't timeouts get reported?
< 1371330213 642593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do true; done
< 1371330219 697149 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371330220 390583 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://activeworlds.com/products/citizenships.asp
< 1371330226 494306 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The page hasn't been updated, but the links are
< 1371330244 625776 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371330246 110543 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So clicking "SAVE! CLICK HERE for discounted annual online registration." tells you "Citizen Immigration is FREE."
< 1371330297 339626 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok this page looks different from the rest of the site http://www.activeworlds.com/products/cancel.asp
< 1371330304 133335 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that shamus young helped make activeworlds
< 1371330304 696123 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was the old look of the website, hmm
< 1371330316 327170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing how someone so cool could be involved in something so shitt
< 1371330317 136560 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y
< 1371330349 886477 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've heard the name Shamus Young outside of AW
< 1371330517 665811 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's now a kind of freelance game pundit
< 1371330712 76056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's shit about AW
< 1371330819 881685 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo
< 1371330839 975226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe once it was good
< 1371330933 445467 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1371331404 401168 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that name, but I have no recollection in which context.
< 1371331413 34140 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, DM of the Rings.
< 1371331559 231743 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371331811 158670 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371332695 121085 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371332742 323783 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371332831 192538 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371332907 914467 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371333164 881938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the person in ##crypto saying bad and/or wrong things
< 1371333264 662254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which
< 1371333268 235999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me?
< 1371333284 877192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371333312 873286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAA
< 1371333341 505725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug
< 1371333360 674382 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I didn't know about @pointful
< 1371333380 547396 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointful (+3) . (+4) . (+5
< 1371333380 648312 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :.hs: 1: 18:Parse error: EOF
< 1371333381 846143 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointful (+3) . (+4) . (+5)
< 1371333381 947201 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ f -> ((f + 5) + 4) + 3)
< 1371333398 366088 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointful (+3) . (+4) . (+5) `ap` 4
< 1371333398 465073 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `pointful' failed with: Ambiguous infix expression
< 1371333406 933612 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pointful ((+3) . (+4) . (+5)) `ap` 4
< 1371333407 38445 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ b -> (4 >>= \ j -> return ((\ f -> ((f + 5) + 4) + 3) b j)) b)
< 1371333412 983774 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl (+3) . (+4) . (+5)
< 1371333413 85171 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ f -> ((f + 5) + 4) + 3)
< 1371333420 657774 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is unpl a different thing than pointful? 
< 1371333447 823166 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(". unpl pl" -- or the other way around -- is often a best.)
< 1371333477 720082 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1371333505 693027 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@. pl unpl ((+3) . (+4) . (+5)) `ap` 4  -- I'm going to get the same thing back, right? 
< 1371333508 832192 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap ((4 >>=) . (return .) . (+ 3) . flip ((+) . (+ 5)) 4) id
< 1371333508 949952 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue.
< 1371333515 208922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pl is broken hth
< 1371333919 901367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea why pl is broken
< 1371333930 516443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So figure out why?
< 1371334106 202348 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I think I managed to make a sequent calculus for sokoban now.
< 1371334201 711836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy rewriting eval plugin instead
< 1371334216 221508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sequent calculus for chess puzzles will be far more complicated; you will need to keep track of whose turn it is, and you will need to make the opponent's turn with all possible moves above the line instead of just one.
< 1371334453 303172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/tex/sokoban_sequent.tex Please tell me if there is a mistake.
< 1371334528 461596 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If these are caffeine withdrawal headaches, why do they occur so late in the day
< 1371334567 162742 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know.
< 1371334612 450070 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371334669 693802 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371334678 61399 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371334847 620414 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this sequent calculus for sokoban a correct implementation of the sokoban game?
< 1371334867 651413 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anybody's listening
< 1371334879 323413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, it is generalized; it allows other kinds of geometry than rectangular, and allows multiple player pieces)
< 1371335689 966303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371335840 550570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371336030 932441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371336063 319963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371336738 268955 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371337622 304427 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371337818 371183 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371338411 141931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371338414 422591 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371338458 695476 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that is an impressively charitable interpretation of hagb4rd <- charitable AND correct, btw.. that girl rulez! if i had to choose a pair for another renaissance in the matrix .. i'd choose fio and kmc! long may heir reign last and may some hard coconut fall on elliotts or hoovers head
< 1371338458 766942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages?
< 1371338539 88629 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you by accident ever need a witness.. feel free to ask me.. i put my trust inya :P
< 1371338541 787641 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck
< 1371338553 764483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1371338561 224283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I work with unusual model of logic all the time in the CS department: multiple arguments and tupling both have weird logical problems (mostly, there's two different plausible ways to implement them, and it's not clear which is meant), so currying simplifies things a lot there
< 1371338613 210012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to check twice to make sure hagb4rd's line wasn't by fungot
< 1371338614 317941 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: s/ syntax-case/ fnord/ fnord or is the gui stuffs in teach packs? is not just lambda calculus. the nutshell version of it. i use ion
< 1371338617 271473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a mark o a good line right there :)
< 1371338621 459962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of
< 1371338632 317133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
< 1371338633 522515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that applies to all of hagb4rd's lines
< 1371338650 401291 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lie
< 1371338661 663940 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all
< 1371338668 316028 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say many
< 1371338984 624049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined
< 1371338985 718522 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1371339014 211983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hagb4rd were you the one who led itidus to this channel
< 1371339040 192131 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're repeating yourself so much poor hoovey
< 1371339054 201433 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i did not
< 1371339103 178245 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :Phantom_Hoover
> 1371339103 316984 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339130 2387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net
> 1371339130 27443 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339130 213207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 KICK #esoteric hagb4rd :hagb4rd
< 1371339134 993663 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371339137 176617 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -o :Phantom_Hoover
> 1371339137 198617 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339137 646536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem solved
< 1371339149 991278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't keep the ban around, btw
< 1371339153 625784 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :ais523
> 1371339153 648399 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339155 324110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you ais
< 1371339158 277248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -b :*!*@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net
> 1371339158 300681 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339161 305284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 MODE #esoteric -o :ais523
> 1371339161 327987 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339167 513570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'll do him/her good to not be around for a while
< 1371339186 257169 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371339187 978446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :insulting channel regulars like that, out of nowhere, is not productive
< 1371339188 337532 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weee
< 1371339392 57787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that was not a while
< 1371339453 686081 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't see why you get so tense again
< 1371339463 455226 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we have fun
< 1371339466 568308 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't we
< 1371339487 374726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, this isn't particularly fun, nor ontopic, nor useful
< 1371339493 231993 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott
> 1371339493 255040 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339502 350750 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db420d6.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want me to leave?
< 1371339510 907792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*perdito@*.pool.mediaWays.net
> 1371339510 930843 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339510 984662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric hagb4rd :fuck off
< 1371339513 410059 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott
> 1371339513 433347 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371339517 306418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good game imo
< 1371339532 174083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember them being quite that bad last time
< 1371339563 913132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, that's just based on behaviour since I've been here, I've heard there's worse in logs
< 1371339569 75435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw you're the best op until oerjan or fizzie overtakes you, hth
< 1371339798 745903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only differentiating factor i can think of is that this time he knows there's a woman in the channel
< 1371339920 863066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I'm still finding it hard to believe that there are people who still think the internet runs on "tits or gtfo"
< 1371339987 532105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, #xkcd (not on this server, I forget where it is; foonetic?) actually has a rule against that specifically in the topic
< 1371339988 937959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be too coherent for hagb4rd
< 1371340016 571257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :depressing that it'd be common enough to need putting in the topic
< 1371340021 384441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it actually happened enough that they felt they had to ban it, or if it was preemptive
< 1371340025 936333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but yes
< 1371340156 59412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO
< 1371340158 610183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with this warp language
< 1371340160 79379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it any good
< 1371340316 224764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember having heard of it
< 1371340316 660733 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this on the wiki
< 1371340327 911843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw, I got two effective kicks in a few minutes there
< 1371340339 461205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went and kicked a spambot from #nethack just after the hagb4rd ban
< 1371340350 610496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo despot. impeach ais523
< 1371340354 984553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: http://esolangs.org/wiki/WARP
< 1371340361 528958 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ya im lookin at it now
< 1371340378 825782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can impeach me if you like, but then good luck relying on the other ops to be online :)
< 1371340379 24289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh btw i sent you a lambdabot message that you've probably read
< 1371340383 113709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I did
< 1371340395 797672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "twh" mean?
< 1371340423 125727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would help
< 1371340428 896184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of the New #esoteric Vernacular
< 1371340476 598047 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far warp looks more interesting than most new languges on the wiki these days
< 1371340491 415102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, WARP reminds me of something I was planning to do myself, but doesn't
< 1371340527 618884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, doesn't do itself
< 1371340737 785041 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :jockstrap
< 1371341038 222239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371341094 863541 :jockstrap!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin
< 1371341262 463316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371341323 310133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371341334 16837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I banned hagb4rd
< 1371341335 478805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi
< 1371341340 733400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i banned hagb4rd
< 1371341355 155113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, via giving ops to people likely to kick/ban him/her
< 1371341369 737002 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hi
< 1371341370 878781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want all the credit
< 1371341375 307070 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i banned hagb4rd
< 1371341376 585098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first
< 1371341387 836011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i banned hagb4rd more thoroughly!
< 1371341393 895727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1371341401 797269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok to be confused, oerjan
< 1371341448 864202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of his behaving like drunk? i suppose i should read the rest of the logs.
< 1371341553 25284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that all the time
< 1371341564 961717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have voice so it's ok
< 1371341650 123533 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, it's a good thing we didn't give hagb4rd voice
< 1371341666 965280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i think +v may cancel the +q part of +b
< 1371341677 642979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could test this by banning kmc
< 1371341678 503502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you want to ban someone without kicking them
< 1371341693 619111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't want to be a part of a club that would have me as a member, etc.
< 1371343456 419217 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :MasterOfBronies
< 1371343507 952957 :MasterOfBronies!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin
< 1371343620 474160 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :TheMarquisOfTime
< 1371343724 762895 :TheMarquisOfTime!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin
< 1371344125 205931 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Sgeo.*egg
< 1371344173 520876 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16221
< 1371344223 58594 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371344311 631966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1371344312 982291 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
< 1371344356 82344 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1371344391 996853 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371344586 888683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i banned hagb4rd
< 1371344668 8557 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he /msg anyone about his being banned
< 1371344682 934700 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd seems like the kind of person who would do that...
< 1371344724 776404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khet_(game)
< 1371344728 143394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: yes, me
< 1371344733 823750 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like portal chess except not shit
< 1371344734 743755 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't msg me at least
< 1371344739 317031 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nice
< 1371344754 561130 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should figure out how to bring norns back from the dead
< 1371344885 104875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't msg me
< 1371344909 734105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he msged `^_^v
< 1371344965 96546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's that
< 1371344965 263662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it sshc you're meant to ping a lot
< 1371344969 426651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whoever it was
< 1371344987 814266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to hate sshc but then it turned out he was actually an idiot which kind of spoilt it
< 1371344998 548989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i just go for the scattergun approach
< 1371345010 400087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that heroux, am i right
< 1371345012 722608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many people in this channel who never talk
< 1371345016 436201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's sshc
< 1371345021 792001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: some person who never said anything
< 1371345030 743890 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except once
< 1371345033 806437 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when he was an idiot
< 1371345034 406409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the second-best way to attract Phantom_Hoover's ire after making a brainfuck derivative
< 1371345041 685934 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371345047 167740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sshc is the dual of sshd hth
< 1371345084 149103 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the brainfuck derivative that I'm making...
< 1371345103 29543 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to use pipes to implement it, but not sure if that's the best way
< 1371345115 113709 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is there a single preferred 3-bit encoding for Brainfuck?
< 1371345144 242490 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v, aloril, atehwa, conehead, dessos, Frooxius, ggherdov, heroux, hogeyui____, iamcal__, itsy, jix, rntz, rodgort`, sacje, samebchase, SingingBoyo, SirCmpwn, sprocklem, ssue__, TodPunk, tromp_, trout, yiyus, I hope you hear me you fucks.
< 1371345145 756427 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v,: not found
< 1371345159 75602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Phantom_Hoover should be kicked for that.
< 1371345163 201712 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hasn't SirCmpwn spoken, or am I hallucinating?
< 1371345173 325933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're hallucinating
< 1371345176 322470 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And conehead sounds like it's someone else renamed
< 1371345178 28059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SirCmpwn has spoken quite a bit, yes.
< 1371345179 393186 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat more nuts
< 1371345190 569262 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi?
< 1371345197 454368 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, glogbot and glogbackup as far as I know have never spoken
< 1371345210 183366 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :conehead, have we known you by a different name, or only as conehead?
< 1371345217 570985 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only as conehead 
< 1371345219 88638 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome conehead 
< 1371345221 607305 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :conehead: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371345227 684031 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao thanks for the welcome for the third time d:
< 1371345241 153009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see
< 1371345248 307935 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get results
< 1371345252 562603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Why are you always so rude? You should be nicer to people.
< 1371345273 216265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go stick your head in a toilet shachaf
< 1371345301 62239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll stick my head in any kind of shachaf I like, thank you very much.
< 1371345469 574128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best person to ping is variable / constant
< 1371345486 81035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i like variable
< 1371345499 511374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote in.toilet
< 1371345501 218743 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :986)  i'm not actually competent at hacking things   ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head of a gnu] [tux penguin]   [face shoved in toilet]
< 1371345556 662192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they picked the dumb phase of the glider for the hacker pride symbol
< 1371345569 480544 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb phase?
< 1371345581 292548 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one what looks dumb
< 1371345586 672836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote kmc | shuf
< 1371345588 381170 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :863)  i bet a blog post complaining about ");});});" syntax in JavaScript and comparing it unfavorably to Lisp would get approximately one billion comments on hacker news   but at what cost?  your very soul, kmc! \ 856)  it's kind of the multiocular O of countries, if you will \ 589)  COCKS [...]  truly cocks \ 838)  Can you vote for just the green party or rainbow party instead of both?   nope, it is the same party   That is the problem with political parties.
< 1371345725 928980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come after
< 1371345728 129216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :821)  i love how allegedly wine can run all of these different programs but the only one i can actually run is starcraft   i think wine may secretly be a cleanroom reimplementation of starcraft
< 1371345776 684506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope.
< 1371345780 295565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric/2012-11-06.txt:00:55:16:  Can you vote for just the green party or rainbow party instead of both?
< 1371345785 447924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric/2012-12-03.txt:02:06:11:  i love how allegedly wine can run all of these different programs but the only one i can actually run is starcraft
< 1371345793 755421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird
< 1371345800 563603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels like it wasn't 7 months ago
< 1371345832 552527 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it's great, isn't it
< 1371345842 779229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is
< 1371345867 913504 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way that whether something works in wine is entirely independent of its status in winedb
< 1371345891 225033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imoe everything works in wine
< 1371345905 831317 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite was when i tried to get a torrented copy of deus ex to install, and it was erroring out
< 1371345922 430624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the reaction i got from #winehq was basically 'fuck off pirate scum'
< 1371345938 80214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371345962 55690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was definitely a bug / intentional feature (?) in deus ex which made it impossible to progress past the first mission if you'd used a nocd crack
< 1371345983 377133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've encountered that
< 1371345992 963795 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Worms wiki links to that "You are a pirate" thing if you click the link for ... hmm, let me just find it
< 1371345995 136004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i recall i may have encountered it in the steam version...
< 1371346024 924766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.greenheartgames.com/2013/04/29/what-happens-when-pirates-play-a-game-development-simulator-and-then-go-bankrupt-because-of-piracy/
< 1371346028 699754 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://worms2d.info/Troubleshooting_FAQ#I_downloaded_Worms_Armageddon_from_the_Internet_without_paying._Can_you_help_me.3F
< 1371346054 529982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those features are great because if there are any false positives the people trying to report them will just be treated like scum
< 1371346057 738531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, win/win
< 1371346078 58472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always great to have an excuse to treat your users like scum
< 1371346105 477507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wikipedia page for COINTELPRO is #3 on hacker news for some reason
< 1371346115 992702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i loved that article you linked because the guy has evidently never heard of subtlety
< 1371346155 996148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because it's topical to current events
< 1371346162 415313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but...
< 1371346281 870306 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371346307 679542 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371346443 345399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow
< 1371346443 571907 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, you!!  Imitate a WOUNDED SEAL pleading for a PARKING SPACE!!
< 1371346450 681471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but...
< 1371346525 408115 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i...
< 1371346543 242447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOO II OOO OOOO IAA OO AAAAAA
< 1371346550 628908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but...
< 1371346569 416674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan
< 1371346570 594945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This went on for some time."
< 1371346580 395225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf 
< 1371346581 90585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should i learn about linear algebra
< 1371346591 896884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use the matrix hth
< 1371346594 430944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet y'all're "experts"
< 1371346666 59502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way to stop being an expert is to become a pert again
< 1371346718 622373 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pertinent issue
< 1371346889 471851 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Phantom_Hoover why did you ping me
< 1371346900 883278 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you weren't talking
< 1371346908 416897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :made me suspicious
< 1371346908 963824 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371346915 122999 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll go back to not talking now
< 1371346932 590339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, just what you'd expect
< 1371347159 969934 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371347197 104462 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371347335 895510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : sda sda1 sdb sdb1 sdc sdc1 sdd sdd1 sde sde1 sdf sdf1 sdg sdg1 sdh sdh1 sdi sdi1 sdj sdj1 sdk sdk1 sdl sdl1 sdm sdm1 sdn sdn1 sdo sdo1 sdp sdp1 <-- are these assembly commands
< 1371347387 822911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371347392 419362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are block devices
< 1371347401 78259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1371347402 160144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have sdq sdq1 now as well
< 1371347411 36494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when you reach sdz
< 1371347419 814683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows
< 1371347431 374523 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what are you doing
< 1371347443 81271 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371347455 74437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He likes mounting?
< 1371347627 678686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious
< 1371347641 403963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the computational class of sequent calculus?
< 1371347687 700829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you implemented turing machines using one
< 1371347780 753467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, at least I think I have; it isn't reviewed by someone else, in order to check to make sure. Also, that doesn't mean in case there is some higher computational class it has, although I don't think it is more powerful than Turing-complete, but I might be wrong.
< 1371347787 93665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of those correspond to actual physical disks?
< 1371347812 59637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them
< 1371347832 702919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the ones that end with digits.
< 1371347844 79464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those correspond to subsets of disks
< 1371347872 591840 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a lot of disks in your computer? If so, why? Are some of them connection for CF card, SD card, CD, DVD, Blu-ray, HD-DVD, 3.5" floppy disk, 5.25" floppy disk, 8" floppy disk, Quick Disk, etc?
< 1371347891 146550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a fileserver with 12 hard drives, 2 SSDs for boot, and I also have three USB hard drives connected for various purposes
< 1371347900 982023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of them is Quick Disk
< 1371347916 22944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :realisation: I can, with a decent success rate, tell which email account I'm receiving spam on by its title
< 1371347931 729438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack4.org mostly gets SEO spammers
< 1371347953 497596 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't own a 5.25" floppy drive, but I do possess the connections for one.
< 1371347960 801398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ofc, if you want to hire a good SEO company, simply do a web search for "search engine optimization" and pick the first company in the results…)
< 1371347979 215903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I have a USB 3.5" floppy drive, and have used it on occasion
< 1371347997 703027 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an internal 3.5" drive still. I've not used it in years.
< 1371348001 12728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The floppy drive in my computer is broken so I connect an external floppy drive when I need to use it.
< 1371348003 330435 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371348007 881778 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get more use out of my CD burner. Which is older.
< 1371348016 908280 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : (ofc, if you want to hire a good SEO company, simply do a web search for "search engine optimization" and pick the first company in the results�)
< 1371348023 561811 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried this, all the results were localised
< 1371348030 368451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use duckduckgo then
< 1371348035 766108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's a weird encoding fail
< 1371348038 711483 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk about you but i'm not especially eager to get coventrian search results
< 1371348039 63831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write an ellipsis
< 1371348043 90005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1371348050 833024 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*coventrian search engine companies
< 1371348056 647667 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you know what i mean
< 1371348059 696855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your client turns it into some sort of heterosexuality symbol
< 1371348064 265682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you live in Coventry?
< 1371348071 292899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ellipsis looks fine to me...
< 1371348078 545378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in Phantom_Hoover's quote of me
< 1371348084 838631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes, that's where Warwick is
< 1371348090 3478 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They look like they're both the same codepoints to me.
< 1371348092 354499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were in Scotland still
< 1371348093 826028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: hmm
< 1371348099 202747 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's your system that's jacking up.
< 1371348099 581149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case my client has come up with an entirely new failure mode
< 1371348123 473824 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no, it's not your client.
< 1371348136 964561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "SSDs for boot" I mean the whole root filesystem is on those as well
< 1371348158 214917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will boot unattended but it doesn't have the crypto keys for the big disk array until i log in and provide it
< 1371348232 501972 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at the logs, PhantomHoover emitted 0x85 where you emitted 0xe2 0x80 0xa6.
< 1371348253 843862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371348284 957908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably a windows thing
< 1371348290 797173 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should start booting into arch again
< 1371348297 374847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :winblows
< 1371348297 661263 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is to say, Phantom_Hoover wrote out Windows-1252 instead of UTF-8.
< 1371348301 557262 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using Xchat?
< 1371348306 995078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371348307 950562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for '…'
< 1371348312 5540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah xchat has broken unicode settings by default
< 1371348312 631896 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switch your encoding to "Unicode" instead of "IRC".
< 1371348317 639702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch it to utf-8 you mean?
< 1371348322 515615 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371348323 173617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there's a "unicode" encoding in the list
< 1371348327 419440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '\xe2\x80\xa6' | iconv -t cp1252 | hd
< 1371348329 249373 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000  85                                                |.| \ 00000001
< 1371348342 512617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(how xchat does unicode by default: try to stuff it into whatever single-byte thing windows uses, and then use utf-8 if it fails)
< 1371348343 686014 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IRC" encoding is "if the character exists in Windows-1252 write it out as Windows-1252, otherwise write UTF-8".
< 1371348348 354891 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is utterly broken.
< 1371348348 426899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because mirc)
< 1371348368 385899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fine with that for decoding, but not for encoding
< 1371348375 689442 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371348378 544555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol postel's law
< 1371348385 684062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't use that encoding. Use a proper encoding, such as Windows-1252 or UTF-8, not both of them together!
< 1371348391 1510 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't actually find that setting
< 1371348395 801060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Oh, http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-055 is the thing I was thinking of.
< 1371348402 867550 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It makes perfect sense to fall *back* to Windows-1252 when decoding...
< 1371348414 707586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when were you thinking of it
< 1371348415 305989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: since when do you like anything the other sam hughes does
< 1371348424 780402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well you see he forgot about it shortly after (-:
< 1371348435 472953 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it's horribly unlikely for something to be valid UTF-8 but intended as Windows-1252.
< 1371348436 724212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just use ASCII if you don't need any other encodings.
< 1371348437 777682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: When you were here.
< 1371348463 541243 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah, UCS-7/8ths.
< 1371348470 161185 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate both my dad and step-mom
< 1371348472 645049 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I will gladly consider that a sane encoding.
< 1371348481 105648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Maybe, but still you shouldn't use both encodings together; it is still possible and it is conflicting.
< 1371348490 180038 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, certainly.
< 1371348499 970364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why?
< 1371348524 886659 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: By the way, "UCS-7/8ths" is just a snarky reference to ASCII, as 7 bits of Unicode is equal to ASCII.
< 1371348542 302395 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise UCS-1 a snarky reference to Latin-1.
< 1371348550 686353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some characters that IRC messages cannot contain; but, if you are using the UTF-8 then it is possible to use the overlong encodings of them.
< 1371348591 409244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Well, I suppose, anyways they are have that compatibility which at least mean it works, so you can write one ASCII program and read by UTF-8 or vice-versa as long as only characters in ASCII range are being used.
< 1371348600 308122 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My step-mom is utterly against me dating non-Jewish girls. I am currently dating a non-Jewish girl. My dad wants to keep this hidden from my step-mom for "a while longer". I already dislike my step-mother for other reasons, having to avoid the subject/lie etc. because my dad's not willing to have her get angry doesn't help things
< 1371348607 464133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately they don't always do that, but they should!
< 1371348656 597059 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Have you considered asking her why she wants every little boy to receive genital mutilation.
< 1371348659 927109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, so wait is she actually all 1930s southern about it
< 1371348662 842827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arent you independent of -- pikhqqqqqqq
< 1371348667 366801 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- your stepmom and father now anyway
< 1371348680 778369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hahahahahaha I wish
< 1371348683 186549 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_.....
< 1371348734 709203 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: `What?
< 1371348736 180504 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, can you make people jewish
< 1371348738 152718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: imo that would be a good thing for you
< 1371348745 278323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq
< 1371348785 135386 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq............................
< 1371348798 279714 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :何だ？
< 1371348813 160942 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :何だ
< 1371348813 881183 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, ...what's with the weird question mark?
< 1371348827 933003 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Full-width question mark.
< 1371348884 697164 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?？
< 1371348884 808813 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1371348900 506119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... I'm using a monospaced font.... I think
< 1371348917 516238 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a different character
< 1371348937 753061 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYWAY we were talking about your awful family before pikhq....
< 1371348951 644848 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ah. Yes.
< 1371348959 287827 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still sucks.
< 1371348983 41403 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though less so as I am independent-ish and intending to stay that way.
< 1371349004 887164 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pik
< 1371349006 540960 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h
< 1371349008 850194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q
< 1371349030 934242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on
< 1371349141 346375 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pikhq being pikhq
< 1371349143 393233 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'know
< 1371349279 109542 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm good at it.
< 1371349283 664954 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, the best.
< 1371349290 149622 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺)
< 1371349344 500844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: even in fixed width font terminals, some characters take up one cell and some take up two
< 1371349366 104558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't reasonably draw CJK characters in the narrow space used for a single Latin letter
< 1371349399 291902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two adjacent cells gives you a square area that is much more reasonable
< 1371349406 888015 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: shachaf: Phantom_Hoover: I speak here infrequently
< 1371349420 715728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some legacy encodings, two-cell characters were all two bytes and one-cell characters were one byte
< 1371349427 666815 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesyesyes we established that already
< 1371349435 1891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Sgeo though
< 1371349436 537211 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Guess I shouldn't have taken that anti-hallucinogenic that is lethal if there are in fact no hallucinations.
< 1371349441 251558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371349499 873635 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re: me wondering if I was hallucinating and Phantom_Hoover saying I was, re: whether or not SirCmpwn talks also: my failure at humor)
< 1371349518 68461 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made the brainfuck IRC bot
< 1371349519 411839 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about it
< 1371349528 243883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S
< 1371349530 474766 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g
< 1371349532 446416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e
< 1371349534 990781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1371349541 762895 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what, that's it
< 1371349550 407942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok Phantom_Hoover
< 1371349552 281622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhh
< 1371349558 266788 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if i can keep this escalation up
< 1371349567 695146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhhhhhhhh
< 1371349874 723398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371350015 527563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1371350076 691888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :==
< 1371350116 335781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: how should i learn about linear algebra
< 1371350125 753160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :read nielsen and chuang
< 1371350167 5534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Identity
< 1371350167 889821 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> Identity a
< 1371350188 700316 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone posts in the AW group asking for help getting the SDK working with Python... so I show them my code... eventually they ask "What is self?"
< 1371350195 376027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Identity undefined
< 1371350198 849583 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Identity {runIdentity = *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1371350218 768764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: A name. hth
< 1371350220 268868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that show instance is derived in L.hs
< 1371350227 120949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1371350241 874618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: teach them to call it "this" just to be different hth
< 1371350308 350164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Quantum Computation and Quantum Information?
< 1371350309 146097 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping not to have to teach them Python
< 1371350349 720959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: Char
< 1371350349 960514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371350351 26833 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1371350354 231387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only half serious suggestion
< 1371350358 159476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good book though
< 1371350370 900950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has an intro to linalg (and an intro to CS) and it's supposed to be kind of self contained
< 1371350381 141036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it may not be the best way.......
< 1371350531 205645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: (Int, Int)
< 1371350532 338073 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1371350546 22320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> undefined :: (Int, Int, Int)
< 1371350547 169058 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: Prelude.undefined
< 1371351359 341811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea behind `IO` is that it contaminates everything it touches
< 1371351483 635682 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a similar way as that idea about contamination contaminates everything it touches?
< 1371351527 692705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: v_v
< 1371351535 373450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you repeating wrong thinfgs
< 1371351538 480314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without even quoting them
< 1371351547 936066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: picked up the habit from elliott hth
< 1371351556 278695 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's so you'll join #haskell in a desperate attempt to avoid it
< 1371351563 668361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not that stupid
< 1371351574 605998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what can i say, shachaf doesn't think much of you
< 1371351577 979026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1371351583 851781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachafffffffffff
< 1371351586 911903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: apparently i think even less of you
< 1371351592 872679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc are you drunk
< 1371351603 212300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371351610 912487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you calling all the cool people in #haskell stupid
< 1371351615 919715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had like... two beers all day
< 1371351624 310653 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1371351634 596921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: it's ok kmc is just drunk
< 1371351645 223055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :false
< 1371351646 552399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :⊥
< 1371351653 689496 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha kmc said bum
< 1371351660 64221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a fullwidth ⊥, it would look so much better, hth
< 1371351677 198497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a combining character that makes any character fullwidth TAKE THAT
< 1371351677 270492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :˔
< 1371351680 495296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what a coincidence, i've had 0 beers all day
< 1371351689 184511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0±2 beers
< 1371351691 590225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :⟘
< 1371351694 450763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :27D8   LARGE UP TACK     [⟘]
< 1371351698 280887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i didn't have -2 beers
< 1371351705 564384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2AE0   SHORT UP TACK     [⫠]
< 1371351708 435061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many tacks
< 1371351713 277414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2AE9   SHORT UP TACK ABOVE SHORT DOWN TACK     [⫩]
< 1371351717 260400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2AEB   DOUBLE UP TACK     [⫫]
< 1371351743 133758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your domain theory exercise of the day is to come up with a meaning for all these symbols hth
< 1371351784 498434 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, zero-width space + fullwidth combining character
< 1371351805 361842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite loop
< 1371351863 9128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My experience is that the fastest way to learn category is to author Haskell libraries
< 1371351883 88194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason is that the art of good API design is very closely intertwined with category theory
< 1371351886 108625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1371352180 394997 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371352576 73543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nice to have any kind of detail on that claim
< 1371352597 566087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could join #haskell and ask for it
< 1371352607 930719 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: heh heh
< 1371352667 248314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a statement matches your presupposed notions and your general 'everyone else is dumb' attitude then it must be true
< 1371352721 911962 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just wanted to say that the McAllister Hall here is for interior decorating and English language intensive students
< 1371352731 67261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the overall state of Haskell API design is not too great
< 1371352739 566181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I never once came across an API design guideline document
< 1371352753 278990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this category theory expert could write one instead of hoarding that delicious knowledge
< 1371352811 793125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not 'the #haskell spirit'
< 1371352917 71839 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, kmc is super bitter :P
< 1371352925 781180 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :every few hours I see him making a snarky remark about #haskell
< 1371352930 362950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a fine india pale ale
< 1371352935 929242 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1371352941 495794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not every few hours ;P
< 1371352948 35395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway shachaf brought it up
< 1371352949 717759 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, every hour or so
< 1371352952 978569 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1371352953 777183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott brought it up
< 1371352958 272984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf provoked me
< 1371352973 119306 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAI PPL #HASKELL IS SUPER AWESOME
< 1371352976 834279 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYONE DISAGREE?
< 1371352998 243108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish #haskell was a thousand clones of copumpkin
< 1371353001 82889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe then it would be good
< 1371353013 176236 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a lot quieter, given how much I speak in there
< 1371353016 921729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: i do not wish the same thing about #haskell-blah
< 1371353022 647521 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371353024 398731 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not?
< 1371353035 306523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be all copumpkin links.
< 1371353044 519969 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't like my links :(
< 1371353046 221630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin_jokes.pdf
< 1371353053 717119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we /invite'd kmc to #haskell
< 1371353063 320988 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps he has autojoin on invite set
< 1371353064 942268 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be fun
< 1371353067 872307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think so
< 1371353068 628692 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if kmc /invited'd #haskell to us?
< 1371353070 968989 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick quick get him before he turns it off
< 1371353077 506675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a default setting in irssi
< 1371353082 64550 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371353096 713291 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess not
< 1371353101 488605 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: imo there's one way to find out
< 1371353103 223846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp
< 1371353104 883728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371353106 681057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you actually did it
< 1371353113 345846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell ops so professional
< 1371353114 444067 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371353118 352075 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :epic fail :(
< 1371353139 145962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how about this, we ban everyone but kmc
< 1371353144 665711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should join
< 1371353147 302750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be a monic win
< 1371353148 22856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371353148 134785 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :###kmc
< 1371353162 180026 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god
< 1371353162 631927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the channel for discussing a #haskell with kmc in it
< 1371353171 712824 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was the only one to make that pun
< 1371353175 549273 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371353178 510429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi
< 1371353181 865045 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you overestimate shachaf
< 1371353200 514770 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I can see the effect it has on one's interlocutors
< 1371353211 651762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin misunderestimated me
< 1371353212 102757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :new plan: give kmc ops and then he'll feel obligated to join
< 1371353217 45083 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hagbard got banned huh
< 1371353225 24121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo do it
< 1371353228 898096 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371353231 847211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i even have permissions to add ops
< 1371353233 358498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if so why
< 1371353233 463985 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot hth, hth
< 1371353239 176280 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have permissions to /cs clear users
< 1371353245 960445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remind me
< 1371353249 960408 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1371353272 425617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes because glguy trusts you to be a reasonable op hth
< 1371353277 206295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"glguy's fatal mistake"
< 1371353278 739816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ridiculous
< 1371353280 910498 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait he called phantom_hoover "hoovie"
< 1371353318 380351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if you were an op would you rule #haskell with an iron fist
< 1371353325 948820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+kmc> would be nice to have any kind of detail on that claim <-- just ask edwardk and tekmo hth
< 1371353386 962640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does edwardk agree with tekmo
< 1371353409 132737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :about what
< 1371353635 764643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well it's like part of the underlying philosophy of both lens and pipes, so...
< 1371353688 853033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe pipes more than lens
< 1371353725 327491 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there should be a library called "raven" and a tool or something called "writing desk"
< 1371353747 917570 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371353769 869297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens's philosophy is hardly categorical
< 1371353819 128235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical / From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical
< 1371353856 378976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i knew the lyrics to that but no longer :'(
< 1371353879 842468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if people keep quoting it maybe i'll know them soon
< 1371353994 453994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i wasn't tired at all like half an hour ago
< 1371353995 857340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i'm tired
< 1371354002 618383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to sleep hth
< 1371354003 847953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i leaned on my arm funny and now it hurts
< 1371354004 720908 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugz
< 1371354011 816706 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't lean on your arm funny
< 1371354012 612285 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiot
< 1371354013 548150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll wake up in an hour and a half and feel really awful.
< 1371354027 654938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but it was comfortable at the time
< 1371354028 993672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you gotta insult people like that :'(
< 1371354057 828098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it like crawling with ants twnh
< 1371354060 286850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i like the insults, keep em comin
< 1371354091 566813 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't lean on your arm funny
< 1371354092 971016 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott
< 1371354120 796149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i like it
< 1371354128 46188 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop liking it, liker
< 1371354144 19139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im crying
< 1371354282 618894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I keep reading that book or work on bringing creatures back from the dead?
< 1371354298 454321 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the book because you don't mean real animals because you suck
< 1371354351 750013 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shyamalan: The book isn't real either
< 1371354360 815373 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[It's real... well, ebooks count as real, right?]
< 1371354366 634151 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371354370 472641 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry (not sorry)
< 1371354674 201896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/zT3jWJG.png probably people have seen this, but.
< 1371354780 322477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me
< 1371354792 649079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you egging us on with that fowl book
< 1371354793 829139 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://michaelnielsen.org/polymath1/index.php?title=Bounded_gaps_between_primes wowie, watch that shit drop
< 1371354805 919658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i do
< 1371354819 827405 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371354846 248683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh big leap today, although still tentative
< 1371354862 210307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that real
< 1371354874 988041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the page is real
< 1371354906 419740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have not been able to recognize your IP address as one of the subscribers to the Annals of Mathematics. Please note that online access to PDF copies of articles is by subscription only.
< 1371354910 428168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck u
< 1371354928 178348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn this progress is beastly
< 1371354935 710250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "fuck it, time to solve this already"
< 1371354940 589259 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are all kinds of discrete math texts out there. Discrete Mathematics with Applications, Discrete Mathematics with Algorithms, Discrete Mathematics with Graph Theory. The list goes on. And yet somehow people had neglected (until now!) to publish a textbook presenting discrete mathematics with ducks. This book fills that gap.
< 1371355151 333716 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that's real, I should read it. I read the cartoon guide to statistics when I was a kid
< 1371355253 562015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, some of my answers above were about the prime thing, not the ducks hth
< 1371355359 197462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discrete Mathematics with No Applications
< 1371355578 276261 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun doesn't count as an application?
< 1371355588 778408 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they could make math boring somehow...
< 1371355621 301471 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fun an applicative
< 1371355718 574631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = error ('q':x) in x
< 1371355719 670952 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "*Exception: q*Exception: q*Exception: q*Exception: q*Exception: q*Exceptio...
< 1371355742 358600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let foo s = error (s ++ foo ('q':s)) in foo ""
< 1371355744 27810 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "*Exception: q*Exception: qq*Exception: qqq*Exception: qqqq*Exception: qqqq...
< 1371355748 95355 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371355775 134303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let foo s = error (s ++ foo (error 'q':s)) in foo ""
< 1371355776 231267 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Couldn't match expected type `[GHC.Types.Char]'
< 1371355776 340829 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :             with actual ty...
< 1371355782 130029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let foo s = error (s ++ foo (error "q":s)) in foo ""
< 1371355783 218917 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "*Exception: *Exception: q
< 1371355911 295278 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x = error x in x
< 1371355912 365152 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "*Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *E...
< 1371355967 646673 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix error
< 1371355968 843030 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "*Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *E...
< 1371355974 904162 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371355985 439667 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix show
< 1371355986 600613 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\...
< 1371356062 580182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (show . error) -- that should interleave them, right?
< 1371356063 751605 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "*Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *E...
< 1371356070 26784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sillymbdabot
< 1371356092 930774 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix (error . show)
< 1371356094 17276 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Ex...
< 1371356098 234748 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux
< 1371356165 872143 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps shachaf hth

< 1371356223 987936 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371356351 137353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just think how much more insightful #haskell must be compared to this
< 1371356411 418192 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the anti-insight
< 1371357099 781348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> error "test\nho\nhi"
< 1371357100 921660 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  *Exception: test
< 1371357101 12674 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ho
< 1371357101 84890 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi
< 1371357419 787885 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371357817 2408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh I found a place to live in SF
< 1371357826 63238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which assemblers have an emulator built-in which can be used as a postprocessor and/or to make macros?
< 1371357827 471426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well deegan
< 1371357830 887709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where
< 1371357852 933352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the Mission, 26th and Bryant or so
< 1371357888 985799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good place
< 1371357898 212671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when are you moving
< 1371357907 875478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will officially be one of those overpaid software jerks in the mission
< 1371357924 677983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no are you going to turn into a jerk
< 1371357932 835862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you just be a jerk in the full moon or something
< 1371357960 160191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like copumpkin
< 1371357961 236241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably I will arrive like Friday the 28th or so
< 1371357967 534463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does copumpkin turn into a pumpkin
< 1371357969 203272 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am I a jerk?
< 1371357975 208547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just the full moon part
< 1371357983 183474 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371357986 844049 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do I turn into?
< 1371357995 752416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pumpkin
< 1371358000 570343 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371358001 662066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that at midnight?
< 1371358010 800995 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :when do I switch back?
< 1371358011 63484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he turns back into a copumpkin
< 1371358020 516309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the full moon time is at midnight, though.
< 1371358023 752392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look i don't know how it works
< 1371358054 143759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a software "Astrolog" to calculate precisely the phase of moon and even the distance of moon.
< 1371358112 879633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha let me look closer
< 1371358128 141165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wong wrindow)
< 1371358871 88602 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
< 1371358885 395285 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371358890 758153 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks wi-fi
< 1371358892 437959 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, wi-fi. Thi-fi.
< 1371358899 234116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks sci-fi
< 1371358900 559656 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, sci-fi. Thi-fi.
< 1371358922 941344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks hi-fi
< 1371358924 543260 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, hi-fi. Thi-fi.
< 1371358943 863377 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a mo
< 1371358946 498643 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks ants
< 1371358947 963465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ants. Thants.
< 1371358949 995581 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good.
< 1371358959 804926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Hanks
< 1371358961 193729 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Hanks. Thanks.
< 1371359023 315360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks bird
< 1371359024 658648 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, bird. Third.
< 1371359025 549613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (x) = 3 in x
< 1371359039 309354 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1371359039 422466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW WHAT
< 1371359042 471530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks tree
< 1371359044 62733 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, tree. Thee.
< 1371359048 698122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't that be three
< 1371359049 903880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo yes
< 1371359078 859407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ø=1 in ø
< 1371359080 972149 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1
< 1371359111 891624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let x £ y = x + y in 1 £ 2
< 1371359113 624294 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  3
< 1371359121 574964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> '£'
< 1371359122 643367 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  '\163'
< 1371359221 386943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Thor
< 1371359223 165742 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Thor. Thor.
< 1371359258 926642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks geology
< 1371359260 134994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, geology. Theology.
< 1371359309 98064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you review my sequent calculus for Turing machine and for Sokoban at some time?
< 1371359311 498166 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/thanks
< 1371359313 786790 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/thanks
< 1371359326 391732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know if you found a mistake, please!
< 1371359353 999196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Who, me?
< 1371359361 705753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks consonants
< 1371359363 647496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, consonants. Thonsonants.
< 1371359364 126396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone who does, such as, possibly you!
< 1371359379 448000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Sgeo
< 1371359379 660871 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks zzz
< 1371359380 628437 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Sgeo. Theo.
< 1371359381 134823 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, zzz. Tzz.
< 1371359400 715785 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks AAA
< 1371359402 234571 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, AAA. TAA.
< 1371359403 439812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Tzetze
< 1371359404 842269 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Tzetze. Thetze.
< 1371359649 140589 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371360612 787621 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371360615 63875 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1371360618 814874 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just joined the wiki
< 1371360630 790267 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made an entry for my language
< 1371360631 811737 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delvs
< 1371361598 81940 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'll check it out
< 1371361607 912673 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks...I guess
< 1371361629 119612 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ph doesn't seem to be around. i think he'd like it
< 1371361658 584199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats mnoqy -----###

< 1371361699 825138 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you suggesting here, oerjan!!
< 1371361726 720328 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++ +++++ [ > +++++ +++++ < - ] > ++++ . + > .
< 1371361818 285355 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++ +++++ [ > +++++ +++++ < - ] > ++++ . + > .
< 1371361818 388696 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :h
< 1371361830 161761 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :H indeed.
< 1371361870 387651 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++ +++++ [ > +++++ +++++ < - ] > ++++ . + . > .
< 1371361871 925552 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371361885 880564 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was typing with one hand...
< 1371361913 823209 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :;>;<[>[>+>+<<-]>[<+>-]<<-]>>>:
< 1371361952 229244 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ;>;<[>[>+>+<<-]>[<+>-]<<-]>>>:
< 1371361966 235878 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait...
< 1371361976 173271 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++ +++++ [ > +++++ +++++ < - ] > ++++ . + . > .
< 1371361976 475827 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371362027 30978 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Well hi to yourself, too.
< 1371362027 395792 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: " eat up" values... first it's a number, a meaningful operator.
< 1371362065 471536 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! Some functions are numbers too!
< 1371362091 501193 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yes, numbers are meaningful operators
< 1371362112 530096 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371362183 928055 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh
< 1371362191 667679 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371362209 409832 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other languages can fungot do?
< 1371362209 889132 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: oh. when was this exactly?
< 1371362228 141052 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 5 past 10
< 1371362228 790382 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: found out the truth from the source then :s)
< 1371362266 725517 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: :s/)/\/source\/g
< 1371362267 274579 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: but one is actually putting the code in compile-time would be not be/ not be
< 1371362327 709339 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot ? fungot.brain = true : fungot.brain = false;
< 1371362328 567306 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :L8D: well i need to take another cue from stephenson and use nlp for disciplinary and learning purposes. it was the same guy as in fnord fnord
< 1371362383 849807 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1371362476 542702 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just underload.
< 1371362478 633979 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source
< 1371362478 802865 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98
< 1371362513 543971 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, befunge
< 1371362561 396917 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^underload (0)S((0)(1))(~:^:S*a~^~*a*~:^):^
< 1371362586 550317 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (0)S((0)(1))(~:^:S*a~^~*a*~:^):^
< 1371362586 769305 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :011010011001011010010110011010011001011001101001011010011001011010010110011010010110100110010110011010011001011010010110011010011001011001101001011010011001011001101001100101101001011001101001011010011001011010010110011010011001011001101001011010011001011010010110011010010110100110010110011010011001011010010110011010010110 ...too much output!
< 1371362597 14809 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It goes for short commands.)
< 1371362601 698947 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (()(*))(~:^:S*a~^a~!~*~:(/)S^):^
< 1371362602 104695 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*/*/**/***/*****/********/*************/*********************/**********************************/*******************************************************/*****************************************************************************************/********************************************************************************* ...too much output!
< 1371362609 844869 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course for serious business, there's always
< 1371362612 113585 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages
< 1371362612 276527 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh.
< 1371362643 747889 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help
< 1371362643 912179 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help .
< 1371362654 52144 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("asdf");
< 1371362658 688225 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdf
< 1371362713 912560 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run \? HackEgo  # and for even more serious things...
< 1371362715 884488 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing.
< 1371362748 625811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: hang on
< 1371362756 79535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: this is a derivitave
< 1371362759 60483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a derivative
< 1371362763 661950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's all right
< 1371362810 839997 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok
< 1371362836 160996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "`run \?"...
< 1371362870 661433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's the matter
< 1371362877 515086 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wanted a comment. :/
< 1371362903 19727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're fine fizzie
< 1371362906 187903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments are fine
< 1371362952 945584 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I guess you can also type anything after `help itself.
< 1371363088 210551 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371363107 778546 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/bf.asm.txt
< 1371363109 954403 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2013-06-16 06:11:49--  http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/bf.asm.txt \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden \ 2013-06-16 06:11:49 ERROR 403: Forbidden.
< 1371363137 951241 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371363142 44769 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a very small whitelist of things accessible from inside; but you can use the `fetch command.
< 1371363145 455980 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run vim
< 1371363162 41694 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/bf.asm.txt
< 1371363208 422267 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vim: Warning: Output is not to a terminal \ [?25h[?8c[?25h[?0c[?25l[?1c~                                                                               ~                                                                               ~                                                          
< 1371363209 839715 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-16 06:13:28 URL:http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/bf.asm.txt [9128/9128] -> "bf.asm.txt" [1]
< 1371363226 224094 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`killall vim
< 1371363227 782439 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim: no process found
< 1371363245 627644 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`nasm -f bin -o bfc -f bf.asm.txt
< 1371363247 402379 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: nasm: not found
< 1371363256 521419 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yasm -f bin -o bfc -f bf.asm.txt
< 1371363258 432 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: yasm: not found
< 1371363262 265119 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371363277 884541 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't even have an assemblerr
< 1371363282 190171 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc
< 1371363283 814058 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc: no input files
< 1371363283 884429 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure does.
< 1371363289 132788 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1371363291 522946 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'as' should be enough for everyone.
< 1371363306 696572 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as --version
< 1371363307 665874 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as -f bin -o bfc -f bf.asm.txt
< 1371363307 865344 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU assembler (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.20.1-system.20100303 \ Copyright 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This program is free software; you may redistribute it under the terms of \ the GNU General Public License version 3 or later. \ This program has absolutely no warranty. \ This assembler was configured for a target of `x86_64-linux-gnu'.
< 1371363309 344423 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :as: unrecognized option '- bin -o bfc -f bf.asm.txt'
< 1371363320 821877 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it won't assemble *that*; it's GNU as.
< 1371363330 953226 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371363346 852473 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`git --version
< 1371363348 187253 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: git: not found
< 1371363375 123794 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hg --version  # also opinionated when it comes to version control
< 1371363376 944215 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 1.6.4) \  \ Copyright (C) 2005-2010 Matt Mackall  and others \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
< 1371363405 760076 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://github.com/L8D/delvs/archive/master.tar.gz
< 1371363410 206998 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-16 06:16:49 URL:https://codeload.github.com/L8D/delvs/tar.gz/master [4026/4026] -> "master.tar.gz" [1]
< 1371363424 869205 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371363429 760008 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tar zxf master.tar.gz
< 1371363431 300467 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: Old option `f' requires an argument. \ Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
< 1371363441 312583 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tar xf master.tar.gz
< 1371363442 608496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: Old option `f' requires an argument. \ Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
< 1371363447 371267 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to `run things that you want to have multiple arguments.
< 1371363447 683662 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1371363453 677433 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371363458 220841 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar xf master.tar.gz
< 1371363461 615551 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371363466 927406 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1371363468 544117 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‮ \ bf.asm.txt \ bin \ canary \ delvs-master \ etc \ factor \ hbDf \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ maze \ maze.c \ paste \ pref \ q \ quines \ quotes \ raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ testbot \ test.hi \ Test.hi \ test.hs \ Test.hs \ test.o \ Test.o \ uk \ uk.1 \ wisdom
< 1371363475 83867 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Plain `tar xf master.tar.gz is akin to `run tar 'xf master.tar.gz'.)
< 1371363497 415277 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bf.asm.txt master.tar.gz
< 1371363501 91021 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371363508 860617 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd delvs-master
< 1371363510 511338 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cd: not found
< 1371363522 709833 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?????
< 1371363531 110341 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test.hs
< 1371363532 566633 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :import Data.Maybe (catMaybes) \ import Data.List (group, sort, stripPrefix) \ main = mapM_ putStrLn . map (\s -> head s ++ " occurs->" ++ show (length s)) . group . sort . catMaybes . map (stripPrefix "username:" . (!!2) . words) . lines =<< getContents
< 1371363545 723921 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no shell involved for plain `command. And there's no persistence either, so `run cd something won't be any more useful.
< 1371363575 416792 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd delvs-master;make
< 1371363577 748496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -Wall -std=c11 -Werror main.c -o main.o \ cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-std=c11" \ make: *** [objects] Error 1
< 1371363601 363966 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::rageface:
< 1371363611 13161 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf delvs-master
< 1371363614 631241 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371363623 978094 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1371363625 793929 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‮ \ bin \ canary \ etc \ factor \ hbDf \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ maze \ maze.c \ paste \ pref \ q \ quines \ quotes \ raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ testbot \ test.hi \ Test.hi \ test.hs \ Test.hs \ test.o \ Test.o \ uk \ uk.1 \ wisdom
< 1371363627 587635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: YOU HAVE COMPLAINTS
< 1371363632 856609 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the future yet.
< 1371363638 876751 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls
< 1371363640 810506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‮ \ bin \ canary \ etc \ factor \ hbDf \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ maze \ maze.c \ paste \ pref \ q \ quines \ quotes \ raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ testbot \ test.hi \ Test.hi \ test.hs \ Test.hs \ test.o \ Test.o \ uk \ uk.1 \ wisdom
< 1371363644 104693 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good...
< 1371363659 21617 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: GIVE HackEgo GCC
< 1371363666 632703 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a GCC.
< 1371363671 525565 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPDATE IT
< 1371363685 81883 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have god damn c11
< 1371363691 771045 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was 2 years ago!!!!!
< 1371363722 634160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Gregor is rather absent
< 1371363739 306468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle for 2 days 7 hours
< 1371363766 910010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1371363772 250425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully hackego was spared a brainfuck derivative interpreter
< 1371363818 668152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fate worse than death
< 1371363933 144115 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, there doesn't seem to be anything in the code that wouldn't just work with -std=c99.
< 1371363937 654638 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./delvs hi-bool.bf
< 1371363939 419938 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World!
< 1371363942 408789 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES
< 1371363948 421828 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hi-bool.bf
< 1371363949 774934 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :01001000 H \ "'""'""".> \ 01100101 e \ "''""'"'.> \ 01101100 l \ "''"''"".> \ 01101100 l \ "''"''"".> \ 01101111 o \ "''"''''.> \ 00100000 \ ""'""""".> \ 01010111 W \ "'"'"'''.> \ 01101111 o \ "''"''''.> \ 01110010 r \ "'''""'".> \ 01101100 l \ "''"''"".> \ 01100100 d \ "''""'"".> \ 00100001 \ ""'""""'.> \ 00001010 \ """"'"'".>
< 1371363980 910567 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how unfortunate
< 1371363985 342358 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371364012 93619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess hackego wasn't spared
< 1371364013 187078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1371364013 916367 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with a brainfuck derivative interpreter besides abundance?
< 1371364053 658789 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this
< 1371364062 759935 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is what?
< 1371364074 479139 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that code
< 1371364077 160360 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delvs
< 1371364092 239727 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Brainfuck-derivative
< 1371364116 833845 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pronounced /Dell-viss/
< 1371364120 949449 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't look like brainfuck at all
< 1371364150 989237 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's the boolean version of hello world
< 1371364179 824387 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what i cannot read
< 1371364196 145885 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp delvs-master/samples/multiply.bf .
< 1371364196 554778 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The numbers and letters are presumably just comments.
< 1371364198 341590 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it translate to "normal" delvs
< 1371364200 602359 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371364214 894981 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat multiply.bf
< 1371364216 518785 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​;>; \ < [ \   > [ \     > + \     > + \     << - \   ] \   > [ \     < + \     > - \   ] \   << - \ ] \ >>> :
< 1371364246 497056 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 5 5 | ./delvs multiply.bf
< 1371364248 352913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :25
< 1371364249 64771 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the record, the interpreter has an off-by-one problem.)
< 1371364263 247931 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: In the end of loops?
< 1371364276 515751 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean?
< 1371364276 587695 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; in the size of file.
< 1371364287 169227 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file contents as a string take size+1 bytes, not size.
< 1371364312 14865 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cf. http://sprunge.us/DcLW
< 1371364368 103200 :L8D!~Anonymous@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have the hi-bool.bf in your directory?
< 1371364373 315080 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371364375 498358 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:26:54  What's wrong with a brainfuck derivative interpreter besides  abundance?
< 1371364378 548958 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring as heck
< 1371364379 130355 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :overdone
< 1371364386 231794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"besides abundance"
< 1371364388 109225 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It also has a g.vars-not-initialized problem.)
< 1371364410 632942 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :overdone has a different connotation
< 1371364414 447168 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO worth stressing
< 1371364523 414737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :example: the monoid thing
< 1371364559 997665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but overdoing is so easy
< 1371364590 838307 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right also should throw in "unoriginal" [slightly different again!!!! worth stressing]
< 1371366395 863789 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.44.168 PART :#esoteric
< 1371366782 80092 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371366981 902381 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1371367742 88514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to think C11 and C99 has many stupid things.
< 1371367886 887279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as?
< 1371367956 917909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flexible arrays; GNU supports zero-length arrays with works much better.
< 1371367983 949594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the way they implement a lot of things such as having complex numbers built-in, etc, is I think stupid to have in C.
< 1371368078 956546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference compared to GNU zero-length arrays?
< 1371368110 750057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference is described in the GNU documentation. Zero-length arrays is a much more logical implementation.
< 1371368165 658721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see a very significant difference.
< 1371368292 80698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once wrote how I would think is better way to extend C89.
< 1371368431 491151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe you might have seen this.)
< 1371368465 258998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have?
< 1371368505 790267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is available at:   http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/black_c.txt
< 1371369174 583305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gives you some of the benefits of macro assemblers. It also gives you some of the benefits of C++, but without all of the stupidity that goes with it.
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< 1371371075 693378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a sequent calculus of a subtraction game S(1,2,3). There are six rules, three with nothing above the line, and three which each have three sequents above the line. The theorems of this system are numbers that aren't divisible by four (and it is easy to see what goes wrong when you try to prove them).
< 1371371431 867425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three rules which will accept |- ########0 below the line. If you use rule T1, then you need to prove |- ####0, |- #####0, and |- ######0. However there is no rule which allows proving |- ####0 so you can see it won't work. The similar thing occurs with the other rules.
< 1371371532 353765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: ZZZZ
< 1371371699 372187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 9 is possible to prove, by using rule T1, to get 5, 6, and 7 above the line. To prove 5, use rule T1. To prove 6, use rule T2. To prove 7, use rule T3. In all cases you will get 1, 2, and 3 above the line, and 1, 2, and 3 are all axioms. Q.E.D.
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< 1371374273 857324 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl ReaderT Maybe a b
< 1371374273 968880 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe -> a b
< 1371374280 294066 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl ReaderT a Maybe b
< 1371374280 402071 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> Maybe b
< 1371374389 598854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl MaybeT (Reader a) b
< 1371374389 709321 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Reader a) (Maybe b)
< 1371374409 497881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude, crazy, huh
< 1371374478 740414 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that broken?
< 1371374565 856002 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl MaybeT m a
< 1371374565 965030 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :m (Maybe a)
< 1371374578 291050 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad bracket handling
< 1371374590 180556 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl StateT s (Reader a) b
< 1371374590 281522 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :s -> (Reader a) (b, s)
< 1371375625 502966 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I really like complex.h myself
< 1371375682 285334 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made use of complex numbers in C before
< 1371375721 484496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: when are you coming to california btw
< 1371375740 126582 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, 2016
< 1371375743 406634 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371375780 932950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 2016
< 1371375799 281163 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not?
< 1371375903 61012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's far off.
< 1371375911 572958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's at least 2.5 more years of not being in CA.
< 1371376009 65677 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if you take a wormhole.
< 1371376036 129755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure, that's an implicit qualifier on most things I say.
< 1371376079 611298 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are going / to San Fran Cisco...
< 1371376131 440396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flour, hare, etc.?
< 1371376172 944579 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371376290 117890 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which, this was off the side of the path on Thursday: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130616-p1170896.jpg
< 1371376302 993635 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's like living in the NATURE.)
< 1371376446 51734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have something smaller than THREE MEGABYTES hth
< 1371376782 595605 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130616-p1170896-small.jpg  less than six hundred kilobytes  hth
< 1371376819 326322 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the sort of thing you'd dump all that flour on.
< 1371376837 514389 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SPOILER WARNING)
< 1371377434 886611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1371378414 619535 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Maybe yes you can use complex numbers in C, I think it can be useful in some programs, but I don't like the way C99 implements built-in complex numbers.
< 1371378655 16274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C isn't Fortran!
< 1371378820 586333 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor is it COBOL
< 1371379155 832645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it isn't COBOL either!
< 1371379551 737328 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankfully
< 1371380556 105177 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
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< 1371386415 29470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no thorn in Computer Modern font
< 1371386652 848456 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.projectwonderful.com/img/uploads/pics/39684-1284372742.png
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< 1371388270 105361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: :(
< 1371388281 699124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not
< 1371388295 240450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do you think of C99, in general?
< 1371388299 269950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks he already knows the answer

< 1371388337 327151 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several good things, but also some bad things, which i would change
< 1371388393 511666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i give it 6.5/10
< 1371388436 868203 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, trigrams should be extended with tetragrams
< 1371388457 341142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/10, you're losing me
< 1371388474 891569 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like two am fuck you
< 1371388537 328240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/20, smoke weed every day
< 1371388541 912855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it be two am
< 1371388549 74859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just woke up, it's light out and shit
< 1371388553 110367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am like a normal person now
< 1371388564 981929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND DO YOU KNOW WHY?   http://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit
< 1371388593 110341 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a swap meet, huh
< 1371388595 793014 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have good stuff
< 1371388665 561250 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net
< 1371388765 960116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1371388769 162266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have entertaining stuff
< 1371388785 809557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably won't buy anything because i'm moving soon
< 1371388791 815930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to try to sell some shit
< 1371388812 990559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371388816 68346 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sunrise here is around 03:54am these days, and it's reasonably light two am too.
< 1371388874 912357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the clientele is 50% young nerds in t-shirt and cargo pants (i.e. me) and 50% old guys with huge beards and suspenders who are trying to buy obscure vacuum tubes
< 1371388891 471269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the latter was telling me about how back during the war he had the biggest radio in New Jersey
< 1371388910 898363 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh...what war
< 1371388919 477680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question
< 1371388932 228110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gulf one
< 1371388964 813693 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gulf one
< 1371388975 560692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gulf of tonkin
< 1371388978 86301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is a flea
< 1371389024 886524 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"during the World War" "first or second?" "there was a second?!"
< 1371389133 347443 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371389158 242711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boer war
< 1371389173 179184 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The beer bear war.
< 1371389215 165452 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was it when the Swedish army invented tinned food?
< 1371389277 206706 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the you-must-be-making-that-up war.
< 1371389313 126142 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that constitutes most of sweden's wars
< 1371389341 545503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIT has a lobby with a big wall honoring alums who died in World War I, another wall honoring alums who died in World War II, and a big blank wall
< 1371389351 794243 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was the French
< 1371389357 795523 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the Swedish
< 1371389375 319780 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: effective
< 1371389399 902598 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i should check wikipedia's inevitable list of conflicts called "world war iii"
< 1371389435 952891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :world war iiigate
< 1371389452 278199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh me too
< 1371389480 519582 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/World_War_III lol
< 1371389508 634533 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one of my ancestors fought in either world war
< 1371389518 356771 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :World of Wargate III.
< 1371389537 91512 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a furious footchase
< 1371389562 874677 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the copied module and still unknown to Vorshevsky, Russian forces were able to hack the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) system to give the illusion that an attack was happening on the West Coast, while concealing the real attack against the East Coast.
< 1371389588 172983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im tanebs father
< 1371389646 126192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's what they get for using PHP
< 1371389667 333045 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, aren't you like 8 months younger than me?
< 1371389703 24532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: dont fight the feelings
< 1371389733 63737 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, yes, you were conceived from dna extracted from the embryonic elliott
< 1371389747 721360 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the back-story of Star Trek contains numerous minor elements that did not occur in history, the Eugenics Wars marked a substantial deviation.
< 1371389753 64746 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that's...
< 1371389759 53071 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1371389762 232696 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...plausible
< 1371389770 568330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: until it happens irl
< 1371389794 751515 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the eugeincs wars ended in 1996
< 1371389796 739327 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greg Cox's two-book series The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh develops the idea of the Eugenics Wars in the context of real-life history by representing it as a secret history, and that the truth behind the various civil wars and conflicts in the 1990s was not generally known.
< 1371389805 827716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, the memory alpha article on world war iii mentions that in one episode o'brien describes 21st-century earth history as "never that rough"
< 1371389818 691623 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only true 90s kids remember
< 1371389831 721373 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite the whole wwiii nuclear war thing
< 1371389850 369474 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i can't find the list, this sucks
< 1371389858 878662 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet the real wwiii is just iran-iraq or the congo
< 1371389866 375030 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there will only ever be one nuclear war in history
< 1371389868 961716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the cold war
< 1371389871 643761 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and it has already happend!
< 1371389878 21088 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not real!!
< 1371389889 3656 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like, angola or something
< 1371389894 387428 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's an online encyclopedia everyone can edit, wink wink, nudge nudge.
< 1371389901 876054 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a shitload of "minor" conflicts"
< 1371389905 750533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cold war was real, we just outsourced all the actual fighting to the third world
< 1371389910 988074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :outsourced like everything else
< 1371389944 99847 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but iran-iraq had trenches and gas
< 1371389948 114774 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :way more world warry, imo
< 1371389956 258262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poison gas in your ass
< 1371389984 640088 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the iran-iraq war caused by disagreements over who was stealing whose name
< 1371390012 43161 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Iran-Iraq-IRA war.
< 1371390025 791920 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're from completely different roots phantom >:
< 1371390056 987874 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suuuure
< 1371390062 931140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iran contrafunctor
< 1371390075 854065 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cobrafunctor.
< 1371390120 86734 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your search - "cobrafunctor" - did not match any documents.
< 1371390128 215558 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Iran" is actually a corruption of the earlier "Persia"
< 1371390139 968025 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was a principality
< 1371390158 52783 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They changed the name after the big war against Greece
< 1371390187 76677 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :world war -vii
< 1371390317 472433 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they ended in 1996... new timeline
< 1371390324 370306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is actually 2036 our timeline
< 1371390332 295815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out a couple decades didn't actually happen
< 1371390339 196407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones
< 1371390356 450290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i just told you they didn't exist
< 1371390370 74531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what do we think happened in them
< 1371390483 111160 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there's a new bf derivative on the wiki but I can't be bothered to write a blog post about it, do you want to?
< 1371390493 875054 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371390498 883205 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i outsourced that to you
< 1371390942 327315 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a coesoteric?
< 1371390974 853841 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What if north korea actually has nukes
< 1371391249 205822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we think they don't?
< 1371391258 819013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :been faking all the tests?
< 1371391344 130542 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They've outsourced the tests to the US.
< 1371391484 753403 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, this is the same country that claimed to have found a unicorn lair, and used photographs of some japanese thing as evidence that they have drones
< 1371391546 737744 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty hard to fake nuclear earthshaking.
< 1371391574 300216 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You just wait for some natural earthshaking that's sufficiently similar, then announce it was your test. (Disclaimer: might not work; am not a geologist.)
< 1371391607 734402 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't believe every silly thing you hear about the DPRK. «According to website io9, the state-sponsored Korean Central News Agency making the announcement poorly translated the alleged findings. In Korean history, the name Kiringul (which the paper translated as "Unicorn Lair") is in fact a site associated with the founder of Koguryŏ, an ancient Korean kingdom.»
< 1371391657 562098 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that isn't silly, but states try to get ancient legitimacy like that all the time.
< 1371391756 875681 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Americas don't have any legitimacy ever since Europeans have ruined them
< 1371391797 869897 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you rephrase readably
< 1371392633 193676 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371392874 513390 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No
< 1371393659 52286 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371393934 951574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Maybe if you read what I wrote about my extension of C, then you can know what I can think about C99 in general, too.
< 1371393974 198557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtlxIcN_tAM this is hard to watch
< 1371395232 152015 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-133-51.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371395976 826150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's pretty hard to fake nuclear earthshaking.
< 1371395994 347542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't the yields so puny you could have actually just done it with conventional explosions
< 1371396040 955629 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had 6 to 40 thousand tons of TNT
< 1371396048 332073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6-9
< 1371396088 59616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly that's the range the n1 explosion was in
< 1371396113 725952 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that wasn't with high explosives so would probably be seismically distinct
< 1371396748 974427 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371396971 683279 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be scary would be North Korea having a nuclear missile with the yeld of Tsar Bomba
< 1371397261 244888 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371399255 57063 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you know ages ago you said "Taneb, play Brogue" or something so I started playing Brogue
< 1371399266 401520 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then a while later I had a succession of computer problems
< 1371399285 32576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371399295 732192 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am trying to reinstall Brogue
< 1371399299 651004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck
< 1371399300 53245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And having difficulty
< 1371399539 842054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first DPRK nuke test was in the conventional explosives range
< 1371399587 347685 :root!~root@151-253.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371399611 256945 :root!~root@151-253.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :Guest33264
< 1371399633 454812 :Guest33264!~root@151-253.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch NICK :function
< 1371399634 104731 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i should play brogue again sometime. i was thinking about maybe playing brogue again earlier today too but then i forgot
< 1371399635 488833 :function!~root@151-253.196-178.cust.bluewin.ch QUIT :Changing host
< 1371399635 488984 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371399647 756146 :function!~root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant
< 1371399760 107292 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371399765 150033 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the first DPRK nuke test was in the conventional explosives range <- i heard it fizzled
< 1371399784 220662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite being made with uranium which normally doesn't fizzle
< 1371399954 112981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it fizzie
< 1371400023 175138 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371400045 884845 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it just explodes
< 1371400600 700924 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I work with a few companies that are disrupting the Enterprise SaaS space and are doing unheard of things with Haskell and Javascript. "
< 1371400613 125796 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone here have an idea of what those companies might be?
< 1371400875 517829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371400888 232235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet kmc could mock whoever you're quoting though
< 1371401041 27485 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dis rupt
< 1371401074 641815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :service as a services
< 1371401112 321214 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something as a Something
< 1371401121 846394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did kmc break
< 1371401283 263888 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I reply? I mean, it's not often some industry person goes and mentions Haskell
< 1371401288 403874 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how hard it would be to write a 4D raytracer
< 1371401569 368077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a recruiter or something
< 1371401597 104363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of jobs mention haskell and want you to know haskell but don't really use haskell much
< 1371401602 913139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, well do you actually know haskell
< 1371401616 302944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, about as hard as a 3d raytracer i imagine
< 1371401628 743247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only difficulty i can think of is if you need to use cross products for some reason
< 1371401639 683016 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How hard would it be to write a 1D raytracer
< 1371401657 935364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend bought a turntable at swapfest and then some old guy talked at length about what jethro tull album he should listen to
< 1371401661 883378 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty easy, I imagine
< 1371401665 317297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the answer: thick as a brick, three times)
< 1371401673 195841 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371401683 534498 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I know a bit of Haskell
< 1371401730 756174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross products are so dumb
< 1371401760 420413 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yeah, recruiter
< 1371401778 524562 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd still feel weird leaving a good job that I've only just gotten into, though
< 1371401789 355637 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably wouldn't look good in the future
< 1371401795 114077 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be UNSENTIMENTAL AND DRIVEN
< 1371401829 576617 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :since recruiters are in the recruitment industry, they're not really "industry persons" in *our* industry
< 1371401852 31351 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should at least wait until contract runs out and they either offer me or fail to offer me full employment before making such decisions
< 1371401979 44233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah
< 1371402212 362985 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371402278 725169 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk
< 1371402502 410190 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371402847 117908 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371403038 724310 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, would you believe I have Brogue working
< 1371403120 804117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371403184 109289 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371403249 741249 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371403414 164313 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good
< 1371403416 509532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I have
< 1371403506 274129 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't working before?
< 1371403513 926808 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, are there online servers for Brogue yet?
< 1371403738 316336 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At the �You die... --MORE--� prompt, pressing �i� will reveal your inventory with all items fully identified.'
< 1371403753 65644 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should really say (press i to see items) at the prompt or something
< 1371403759 930997 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do a NetHack DYWYPI?
< 1371404388 132679 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371404874 47854 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371406132 84338 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371406409 125408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, so if you'e doing things other people tell you
< 1371407446 534750 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371407517 779776 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
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< 1371407801 227548 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371408041 51857 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371408056 935164 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371408516 546652 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, some things
< 1371410096 173227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371411403 340725 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1371411410 721847 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a 'roguelike radio'? o_O
< 1371411422 109331 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 70 episodes(!!)
< 1371411424 306676 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371412299 554525 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371412306 36753 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371413201 502383 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.121 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1371413810 111612 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371414217 79682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: when are you going to invent the esolang Main Page.?
< 1371414225 701559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/w/W/
< 1371414247 959377 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, once I've written a tables tutorial and moved to California
< 1371414286 49094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: But imagine all the free publicity!
< 1371414289 836808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Taneb
< 1371414295 632956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371415014 134234 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
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< 1371415230 896398 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371415421 587803 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-158-12.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371415866 987807 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust
< 1371415867 941164 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust   . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/
< 1371416019 23908 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130616-lago-di-como.flac   was a while since the last piece of noises.
< 1371416128 367294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371416136 822787 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371416151 706899 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wow
< 1371416172 835765 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Technically speaking it should loop, but I suppose that's a bit meaningless.)
< 1371416245 584862 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this what finland sounds like
< 1371416256 308 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, of course not, Lake Como is in Italy.
< 1371416261 943370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is with the logs
< 1371416399 949024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1371416402 35667 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​‮ \ bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ etc \ factor \ hbDf \ hello \ hello.c \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ maze \ maze.c \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ q \ quines \ quotes \ raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ testbot \ test.hi \ Test.hi \ test.hs \ Test.hs \ test.o \ Test.o \ uk \ uk.1 \ wisdom
< 1371416449 432103 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls | head -n 1 | hexdump -C
< 1371416451 374532 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000  e2 80 ae 0a                                       |....| \ 00000004
< 1371416453 523711 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best file, I guess.
< 1371416485 117233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what IS that... the entire logs after the `ls earlier today is on one backwards line in my browser...
< 1371416500 603377 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's one of the right-to-left control things.
< 1371416519 214456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy. too fancy.
< 1371416547 781920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm  ​‮ 
< 1371416549 470245 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove ` ​‮ ': No such file or directory
< 1371416558 164580 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE character.
< 1371416577 24151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why on one line...
< 1371416617 90156 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may have to ask your browser that; I just get that single line the wrong way around.
< 1371416624 233276 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In codu logs, at least.)
< 1371416673 306030 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]
< 1371416676 194677 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And "rm: cannot remove ` yrotcerid ro elif hcus oN :'" too.)
< 1371416761 7574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well i'm normally using the .txt logs because the formatted ones have this hideously large font.
< 1371416798 352315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess i can make an exception.  and i just found out that i can change the font (i tried zooming earlier which breaks the formatting)
< 1371416820 795500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway...
< 1371416838 811242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run ls | head -n 1 | xargs file
< 1371416840 939099 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found \ Usage: file [-bchikLNnprsvz0] [--apple] [--mime-encoding] [--mime-type] \             [-e testname] [-F separator] [-f namefile] [-m magicfiles] file ... \        file -C [-m magicfiles] \        file [--help]
< 1371416848 70053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls | head -n 1 | xargs file
< 1371416850 79784 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :empty
< 1371416850 151780 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run, ls, run.
< 1371416857 288445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :run HackEgo ... damn fizzie 
< 1371416869 194170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls | head -n 1 | xargs rm
< 1371416874 20297 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371416877 42354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1371416879 112208 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ etc \ factor \ hbDf \ hello \ hello.c \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ maze \ maze.c \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ q \ quines \ quotes \ raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ testbot \ test.hi \ Test.hi \ test.hs \ Test.hs \ test.o \ Test.o \ uk \ uk.1 \ wisdom
< 1371416884 701432 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye-bye, U+202E. :/
< 1371416931 498129 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"test \ Test \ testbot \ test.hi \ Test.hi \ test.hs \ Test.hs \ test.o \ Test.o" this is starting to look like my home directory.
< 1371416946 721514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be time for another cleanup
< 1371416954 530154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf@carbon:~$ ls | egrep '^..?$' | wc -l
< 1371416954 783582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :73
< 1371417038 833997 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/hacg   time for another cleanup? (Okay, they're at least all in ~/tmp.)
< 1371417059 196458 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371417093 675584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1371417094 153467 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1371417148 499670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm Test*
< 1371417151 994409 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371417163 724590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run kill -9 $$
< 1371417165 166059 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killed
< 1371417177 951295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1371417180 194661 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ etc \ factor \ hbDf \ hello \ hello.c \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ maze \ maze.c \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ q \ quines \ quotes \ raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz \ share \ src \ test \ testbot \ test.hi \ test.hs \ test.o \ uk \ uk.1 \ wisdom
< 1371417202 991334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm test*
< 1371417206 631825 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `testbot': Is a directory
< 1371417229 178100 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371417259 555803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is wrong with the repository browser
< 1371417384 32414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is testbot not in the browser
< 1371417388 342360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file testbot
< 1371417389 962871 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :testbot: directory
< 1371417395 237783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls testbot
< 1371417397 163757 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371417407 527971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok an empty directory, they do that.
< 1371417419 325529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir testbot
< 1371417420 872232 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371417426 836609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls testbot
< 1371417429 12752 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access testbot: No such file or directory
< 1371417436 670870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1371417438 495099 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ etc \ factor \ hbDf \ hello \ hello.c \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ maze \ maze.c \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ q \ quines \ quotes \ raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz \ share \ src \ uk \ uk.1 \ wisdom
< 1371417479 813362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file uk
< 1371417481 566162 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :uk: ASCII English text, with very long lines, with no line terminators
< 1371417510 133511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo file should recognize uk english vs us english vs #esoteric english etc hth
< 1371417687 83253 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does one recognize #esoteric english from its hthquency? 
< 1371417706 798774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm uk*
< 1371417710 377839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371417717 604480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wdh?
< 1371417721 262979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371417724 224352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wth
< 1371417734 508312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, that's oerjan english hth
< 1371417752 302000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that everyone in Norway uses hth as much as oerja does, when they talk in English.
< 1371417836 608351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor when viewing a file, why doesn't the repository browser show the last edit to that file instead of the whole repository :(
< 1371417836 717043 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371417855 51046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ?
< 1371417857 783707 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? norway
< 1371417859 897464 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norway is the suburb capital of Sweden.  It's where the Nobel Peace Prize is announced.
< 1371417862 143534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste blah
< 1371417864 836325 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/blah
< 1371417891 796958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor oh i found a file log link. still unintuitive.
< 1371417891 895253 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371417952 407347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm raw.php?i=uwbmWGSz
< 1371417956 283257 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371417973 598099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm q
< 1371417977 48761 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371418012 663691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that wasn't the contents listed, but the file type. probably not important anyway.
< 1371418015 966849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1371418019 327393 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1371418020 125261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file q
< 1371418021 808606 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, not stripped
< 1371418043 67844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dahl
< 1371418044 775144 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dahl? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371418062 48441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i demand a wisdom entry for dahl hth
< 1371418087 263236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q
< 1371418088 436154 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :const int main[]={232,1230520576,3943032963,1852793621,1763734643,1830843502,1533962593,2105228637,826804795,1220607680,2370422665,826805616,252883666,3247000837,1221734733,186936461,738215366,1221459784,2336342065,3526445057,4148693683,818053363,1207981448,3229994495,4282968949,1220607685,2370367113,1208755284,84929065,1237516105,1225048451,191509
< 1371418097 473068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls quines
< 1371418099 83714 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat \ perl \ python \ ruby
< 1371418112 443093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv q quines
< 1371418115 741556 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371418153 838828 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn dahl dih dahl dahl
< 1371418157 106447 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1371418167 969116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i demand an oerjan-authored wisdom entry for dahl hth
< 1371418278 464672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you have no good reason to believe this sentence hth
< 1371418292 785911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i do it has hth in it hth
< 1371418320 988645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't believe everything you read............unless it has hth in it hth
< 1371418334 928630 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh wtf is hth
< 1371418352 41883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello
< 1371418353 844181 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1371418359 582917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`maze
< 1371418359 884720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hello myndzi
< 1371418361 18682 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: maze: not found
< 1371418361 125106 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1371418370 683181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./maze
< 1371418372 305294 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╲╱╲╱╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╱╲╱╱�
< 1371418385 474933 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :!maze 40 5
< 1371418385 819709 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╺━━━┳━━━━━━━┳┳┳━━━━━┳┳━┳━━┳┳┳┳┳┳━━━┳━━┳┳┓
< 1371418386 765580 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┏━━╸┣━╸╺┳━━┳┛╹╹╻┏╸╻┏┛╹╺┫╺┳┫╹╹╹╹┗┓╺━┻╸╺┛╹┃
< 1371418386 857509 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┃╺┓╺┫╺━┳┫╺┳┛╺━┓┣┻┳┻┛╺━━┛╺┛╹╺┓╺━━┛╺━┳━┓╺┳┫
< 1371418387 751913 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┣━┫╺┛╺━┛╹╺┛╺━┳┻┛┏┻╸╺━━┓┏╸╺┓╻┃╻╺┓╻┏━┛╺┻┳┛┃
< 1371418387 844572 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┣╸╹╻╺┓╺┓╻┏╸╻╺┛╺┓┗╸╻╺━┓┃┣╸╺┻┻┻┻━┻┻┻╸╺━━┛╺┛
< 1371418388 719761 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┗━━┻━┻━┻┻┻━┻━━━┻━━┻━━┻┻┻━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━╸
< 1371418389 456117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful maze
< 1371418390 793990 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1371418396 138942 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shi
< 1371418397 969691 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my new computer
< 1371418402 772022 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unicode isn't all screwy
< 1371418410 202505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine too!
< 1371418411 118483 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't install any fonts don't install any fonts don't install any fonts...
< 1371418419 700389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, what're those ���s?
< 1371418421 884622 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lolmaze 40 5
< 1371418421 977146 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱
< 1371418422 183026 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╲╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╱╲╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╲
< 1371418422 276140 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╲╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╱╱╲╱╲
< 1371418423 192910 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╱╱╱╱╱╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╱╱╱╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╱╲╲╲╱
< 1371418423 692446 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╲╱╱╲╲╱╱╲╲╲╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱
< 1371418424 692757 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╲╱╲╲╲╲╲╲╱╲╱╱╱╱╱╱╲╱╱╱╲╱╲╲╱╲╲╱╱╱╲╲╱╱╱╱╱╱╲╲
< 1371418424 764648 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱╲╱
< 1371418428 812747 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go, that's the one i was looking for
< 1371418430 949990 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :spacing's whack though
< 1371418435 312870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that is screwy hth
< 1371418436 408576 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol this font has kerning
< 1371418445 624104 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed width symbols with kerning
< 1371418452 993716 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic :P
< 1371418465 955302 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :!maze 40 5 40 5
< 1371418466 411027 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :╺━━━━━━━┳━━━━┳┳━━━━━━━━━┳━━━━━┳━━━━━━┳━━┓
< 1371418466 798462 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┏━━━╸┏━╸┗━━┳╸╹┗┳━━╸╺━━┓╺┻━━━╸┏╋╸╺┳━╸╺┻━╸┃
< 1371418466 889367 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┣━━━━┻━━━━╸┗┳╸╺┻━╸┏━━━┻━━━━╸╺┛┗╸╺╋━╸╺━━┓┃
< 1371418467 810270 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┣╸╻┏╸╺┓┏━━━┓┗━╸╺┳━╋━┳━━━━━╸╺┳╸┏╸╺┫╻╻╺━━┫┃
< 1371418467 901366 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┣╸┣┻━━┻┻━╸╺┻━━╸┏┻╸╹╺┛┏━━━╸╻┏┛╺┻━┓┗┫┣╸╺┓┗┛
< 1371418468 825726 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :┗━┻━━━━━━━━━━━━┻━━━━━┻━━━━┻┻━━━━┻━┻┻━━┻━╸
< 1371418470 773755 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, less goofy
< 1371418478 299025 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably half-bars
< 1371418489 668612 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :they weren't in the original line drawing set
< 1371418490 952963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows does font rendering in the kernel, so it's the only one to get kerning right.
< 1371418496 881562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371418515 780946 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but the font specifies the metrics
< 1371418529 404043 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :this font apparently says "make that diagonal line close to other diagonal lines"
< 1371418623 247339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait am i supposed to be viewing this with a non-fixed width font because I DON'T hth
< 1371418651 79688 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should fix your IRC, HTH, HAND
< 1371418685 190434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hang on
< 1371418689 138836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you DON't hth?
< 1371418694 178803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you hidh?
< 1371418702 604204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/i/t/
< 1371418703 298650 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is supposed to be fixed-width
< 1371418704 473529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not
< 1371418709 854785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm hbDf
< 1371418713 703342 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371418715 996669 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was observing that the zigzaggy one, on whatever font it's being rendered in, has kerning between //
< 1371418719 236557 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore doesn't line up
< 1371418730 911648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: your parsing is wacky hth
< 1371418748 300352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my parsing is wacky hope? what?
< 1371418787 702511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you know hth is banned from another channel i'm in
< 1371418808 970694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's your fault, right?
< 1371418816 898834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it #haskell
< 1371418817 383530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes hth
< 1371418820 425725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth
< 1371418828 789229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my fault because i overused it
< 1371418850 215539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you should stop by #haskell
< 1371418856 777781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone misses you hth
< 1371418908 255720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1371418909 963026 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ etc \ factor \ hello \ hello.c \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ maze \ maze.c \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom
< 1371418961 160060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rum mv maze* hello* share
< 1371418962 568935 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rum: not found
< 1371418968 151237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv maze* hello* share
< 1371418972 225765 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371419002 407411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i declare share to be the carpet to sweep things under that are too good to delete hth
< 1371419041 627000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l `which sh`
< 1371419043 452209 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 4 Oct 14  2011 /bin/sh -> dash
< 1371419053 353326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $SHELL
< 1371419054 737257 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sh
< 1371419059 200091 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'sh -c "$1"' > bin/rum; chmod +x bin/run
< 1371419063 118037 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: cannot access `bin/run': No such file or directory
< 1371419066 775795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'sh -c "$1"' > bin/rum; chmod +x bin/rum
< 1371419070 222327 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371419102 147213 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs hth
< 1371419118 735719 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hth: origins"
< 1371419120 310653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it nooodl
< 1371419125 125372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't dooodl
< 1371419130 124139 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to.....
< 1371419133 492873 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.134
< 1371419133 652901 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must know
< 1371419162 909784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta \bhth\b it
< 1371419165 619423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-04-22.txt:10:37:30:  ITYM "olkoslept" HTH HAND.
< 1371419171 210181 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie....
< 1371419182 363732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-06-23.txt:22:34:12:  tusho: ITYM "IIRC FTW". HTH.
< 1371419184 457939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-06-23.txt:22:34:34:  ITYM? HTH?
< 1371419190 340195 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how fizzie invented hth
< 1371419190 710754 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a microcosm of vorpal
< 1371419202 909886 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-08-10.txt:12:33:00:  HTH?
< 1371419214 925305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he forgot what it meant within two months
< 1371419215 291530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-08-10.txt:12:32:43:  Mostly used in the construction "ITYM 'foo' HTH HAND".
< 1371419221 840900 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs \bhth\b
< 1371419243 617794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17933
< 1371419259 940504 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... elliott spearheaded the initial hth deluge
< 1371419291 9467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-12-24.txt:00:04:47:  oerjan: Who is evil hth?
< 1371419291 226808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-12-24.txt:00:05:00:  shachaf hth
< 1371419326 792934 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371419329 54214 :constant!~root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero
< 1371419333 278149 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs zzo38.*hth
< 1371419349 452246 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20843
< 1371419369 714739 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~freaky~
< 1371419369 786569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am increasingly getting the feeling that IE10 has broken _every_ detail of IE8's behavior that i've become accustomed to depend on.  i cannot even change the starting point of an ^F search any more...
< 1371419371 563806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm should there be `zzo38logs
< 1371419389 102075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an ^F"?
< 1371419396 305460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a
< 1371419398 403599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you pronounce that?
< 1371419404 925192 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an control-f hth
< 1371419407 359158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i want juicy norwegian information
< 1371419429 802960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastelogs
< 1371419431 263882 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \  \ pasterandom() { \     if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then \         echo "No." \         exit \     fi \     for i in $(seq "$1"); do \         file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \         echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \     done | paste \ } \  \ if [ "$1" ]; then \     if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then \
< 1371419444 55721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i change to a different browser it'll probably do things in a _different_ annoying way instead.
< 1371419469 890640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pastlog hth | tac | paste
< 1371419471 746649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /var/irclogs/_esoteric
< 1371419477 580838 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm is there a map of "where in the world is #esoteric" anywhere
< 1371419484 825641 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one
< 1371419487 694317 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29749
< 1371419490 216361 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2003-01-18-raw.txt \ 2003-01-18.txt \ 2003-01-19-raw.txt \ 2003-01-19.txt \ 2003-01-20-raw.txt \ 2003-01-20.txt \ 2003-01-21-raw.txt \ 2003-01-21.txt \ 2003-01-22-raw.txt \ 2003-01-22.txt \ 2003-01-23-raw.txt \ 2003-01-23.txt \ 2003-01-24-raw.txt \ 2003-01-24.txt \ 2003-01-25-raw.txt \ 2003-01-25.txt \ 2003-01-26-raw.txt \ 2003-01-26.txt \ 2003-01-
< 1371419497 352967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1371419520 457138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: y'know, that's really the core of it
< 1371419521 113079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/pastelog
< 1371419523 3276 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/pastelog
< 1371419530 538845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple and elegant
< 1371419534 653592 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wowwwww
< 1371419545 301452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a piece of modern hth art hth
< 1371419565 380975 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost wanna `learn hth is http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29749
< 1371419571 362480 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but iirc it's good right now
< 1371419574 317552 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth
< 1371419576 531485 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
< 1371419610 480927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's p. bad
< 1371419613 46427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pad
< 1371419633 415847 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks hth
< 1371419634 332209 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A one-time bad is provocably secure.
< 1371419634 933167 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, hth. Tth.
< 1371419672 842833 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM "brovocably" HTH HAND
< 1371419681 457358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY EVERYONE REMEMBER https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_Pix
< 1371419699 563618 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :(
< 1371419768 660290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krlmGTQAfYw
< 1371419901 544008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute that's not the right version is it
< 1371419924 81736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TayProAkmBE
< 1371419971 404327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's the one
< 1371419978 305874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1371420329 786016 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when computer monitors had a builtin pinch effect?
< 1371420378 131477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a pinch effect
< 1371420385 54943 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TayProAkmBE
< 1371420412 49743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that supposed to be an answer because i still have no clue
< 1371420427 92334 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TayProAkmBE
< 1371420448 843566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh
< 1371420719 663879 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when you could wave a magnet near a screen and it'd get all colorful and stuffs? 
< 1371420726 368491 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it'd get stuck that way.
< 1371420770 93003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: um where in that was the pinch effect twh
< 1371420785 140091 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In the MONITOR.
< 1371420820 996070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371420835 492727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean the overall picture shape?
< 1371420875 281662 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bingo
< 1371420889 636067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bingo
< 1371420891 316133 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bingo? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371420902 903189 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do remember CRTs having barrel distortion twiddles you could twaddle to hopefully make the image area a bit more rectangular.
< 1371420910 834637 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah
< 1371420912 248004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1371420924 822917 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember Degauss
< 1371420957 697249 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the thing that more or less fixed the thing you had done with the aforementioned magnet.
< 1371420967 805465 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also goes "twang".
< 1371420996 873834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old Carl Friedrich Degauss
< 1371421022 971685 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :John Barrel should never have implemented Barrel distortion in monitors, that sucked.
< 1371421054 181608 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371421060 820406 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decarl Defriedrich Degauss
< 1371421068 915185 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cogauss
< 1371421074 925015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371421085 385723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38
< 1371421101 352193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have anything good for us today?
< 1371421469 763198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know yet.
< 1371421489 365153 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 00:24 am here! you've got all day
< 1371421532 968374 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third book doesn't come out until September :(
< 1371421542 455018 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some monitors automatically degaussed every time you turned them on
< 1371421995 801970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Iran" is actually a corruption of the earlier "Persia" <-- um...
< 1371422022 224680 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best phone conversation in a feature film http://youtu.be/hroUeu4IvpE hth
< 1371422074 597461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is there a coesoteric? <-- is that the place where brainfuck derivatives are considered high art?
< 1371422200 970797 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371422204 63647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: is that zzo38
< 1371422234 294319 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And where adbmalbot operates
< 1371422360 925881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: is that indian english how she is spoken
< 1371422642 638359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I did manage to write the sequent calculus of sequent calculus.
< 1371422672 227722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think kmc or someone else on here suggested doing that?)
< 1371422812 13125 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1371423833 717651 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371425003 23008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might even be able to combine the sequent calculus of sequent calculus with the other system which it is imitating, and make up the new system, which can then be combined with it again, etc
< 1371425112 737730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it knows itself. Well, kind of; it knows what it was before the sequent calculus of its own sequent calculus was added.
< 1371425170 471517 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the zzo
< 1371425358 391073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Please be more specific!
< 1371425377 300763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an expletive
< 1371425445 198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter if it is expletive or explosive or whatever, if you want to ask a question such as "what ____" you should please be more specific?
< 1371425534 411521 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry zzo
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< 1371429718 803898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dr. James M Peebles, M.D, M.A. Ph.D., and 91 years old, states whiskey is key to a long life, although he advises against eating meats."
< 1371429739 21920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also <3 these line drawing characters
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< 1371429787 313310 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1371429799 373369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::ꙮ
< 1371429843 197744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: relative of yours?
< 1371429861 318456 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, but I haven't heard of him :)
< 1371429867 641615 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grandfather is 100 and has whiskey everyday
< 1371429881 380923 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day
< 1371429889 690702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it kind of whisky to do that at his age
< 1371429976 105191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this was from @CenturyAgoToday so I guess he's 191 years old now?
< 1371430018 83775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how often do you have whiskey
< 1371430023 202636 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371430027 848657 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he must be
< 1371430032 210928 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting though
< 1371430037 504266 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy has too many degrees, anyway
< 1371430049 718234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Record heat wave in the Midwest leads to five deaths in Chicago as temperatures reach near 100 Fahrenheit (38 C).
< 1371430052 872600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of too many degrees
< 1371430091 16006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not v. often
< 1371430104 267871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought a bottle of whiskey a while back and finished it and haven't purchased another
< 1371430113 506616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now drinking Stone Smoked Porter
< 1371430123 415434 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a lambic with his rice

< 1371430154 677977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambic pentameter
< 1371430158 679435 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1371430166 484991 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371430213 869978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nom
< 1371430241 900590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin should write us a sonnet
< 1371430259 439187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or read that that story
< 1371430279 657782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sing us a song you're the copumpkin
< 1371430293 631166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or figure out how to make monad transformers work with negative-position things
< 1371430308 898044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear
< 1371430318 68393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try comonad cotransformers
< 1371430321 317551 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
< 1371430347 239323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope "is that the answer"
< 1371430352 297598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what's the question"
< 1371430380 362025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey what do you think of class Functor m => Monad m where monad :: Free m a -> m a
< 1371430383 359641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the future y/n
< 1371430412 461002 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371430432 132542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdhat
< 1371430453 581340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow
< 1371430464 871849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Free = ... ?
< 1371430490 139699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Free f a = Pure a | Free (f (Free f a))
< 1371430515 772645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a free monad "like a free monoid except in the category of endofunctors hth"
< 1371430535 730983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact you can compare this with class Monoid m where mconcat :: [m] -> m
< 1371430600 731291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times
< 1371430607 639435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free is a "p. fun type imo" imo hth
< 1371430633 622102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may be overdoing it with the "#esoteric house style"
< 1371430707 593822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon all conversation will be encoded in strings of quotes, imo, hth
< 1371430751 835796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "did you see http://apfelmus.nfshost.com/articles/operational-monad.html btw"
< 1371430985 489754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, cool
< 1371431294 359884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so Program f = Free (CoYoneda f)
< 1371431304 101552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I think edwardk said somewhere.
< 1371431313 389311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also said Free (CoYoneda f)
< 1371431323 997592 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371431338 238346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I know what Free (CoYoneda f) is.
< 1371431347 554630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it?
< 1371431404 107352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, if f is a GADT, the monad can have an operation which calls one of the constructor of a GADT like a command that returns a result, kind of.
< 1371431412 399448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might not have explained it very well.
< 1371431435 856526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, f ought to be a Functor, oughtn't it?
< 1371431437 272443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound similar to 'operational'
< 1371431467 452507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. (CoYoneda f) is a Functor even if f isn't. (If f is a functor, then CoYoneda f = f)
< 1371431492 716872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example: data F :: * -> * where { GetChar :: F Char; PutChar :: Char -> F (); };
< 1371431528 598786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. But then it's not the same as Free F.
< 1371431561 603602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct. However, then Free F isn't a monad since this F cannot be a functor.
< 1371431574 22585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, Free (CoYoneda F) is a monad since (CoYoneda F) is a functor.
< 1371431580 674220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371431634 812311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: So doing a DList-style thing on Kleisli composition gives you something which behaves a lot like Codensity.
< 1371431655 591355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you get Codensity Monad instance out of it?
< 1371431801 52182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What about Free (Yoneda f)?
< 1371431811 832186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe Cofree (Yoneda f) or something?
< 1371431840 406530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that makes anything of any use.
< 1371432587 989221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :edward snowdenhands
< 1371432696 863028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any place where Yoneda is better than CoYoneda?
< 1371432730 616226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe in some cases; each is capable of different things. However, I do not think of a specific example at thist ime.
< 1371432808 354400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371433341 257825 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371433946 680352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it, training
< 1371433954 339771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a quick one
< 1371433969 55585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're trains
< 1371433972 981580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371433976 263647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a true story tho
< 1371433993 409505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on a true story
< 1371434026 407840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a freight train on the caltrain tracks and it was good
< 1371434067 214242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What are some cofree things other than cofree comonads?
< 1371434082 145271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it whoosh by
< 1371434103 164792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about your joke or the train
< 1371434118 245774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the train leisurelily whooshed by
< 1371434123 900501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371434156 878408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider the leisurelilies
< 1371434176 94431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you read _Player Piano_ by vonnegut?
< 1371434186 837133 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope.
< 1371434190 861177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i was told to read it
< 1371434193 475821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a p. good idea
< 1371434211 582523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a bunch of kurt vonnebooks to read "but not that one"
< 1371434219 552979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should read that one
< 1371434242 571074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one that i don't have:::: _The Sirens of Titan_
< 1371434330 409006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Junction_from_Mass_Ave.JPG there is a nuclear reactor in this photo
< 1371434336 395345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you think that should be mentioned in the description
< 1371434353 167692 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I've walked by that before
< 1371434354 381466 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1371434363 708339 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose nukular is it
< 1371434364 168303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unassuming blue dome w/ the smokestack
< 1371434366 392003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIT's
< 1371434373 215622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the last remaining HEU research reactors in the country
< 1371434374 812474 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that was a stupid question
< 1371434377 269108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm can i have a nuclear reactor
< 1371434379 903706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371434391 678229 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf cannot be entrusted with one
< 1371434396 760068 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will use it well, however
< 1371434567 950539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371434569 706306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have one
< 1371434728 971759 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yayayayayayayay
< 1371434737 830628 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imma see if I can light things on fire with it
< 1371434765 608654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put the sequent calculus of sequent calculus into the computer, now.
< 1371434783 79050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please check the sequent calculus of Turing machine to see if I have made any mistakes in it?
< 1371434811 522340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A proof is actually related to a halting problem!
< 1371434823 112931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can understand why!
< 1371434842 549962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38.gödel.moed++
< 1371434874 484969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: p. sure gödel didn't prove things equivalent to the halting problem hth
< 1371434887 805701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enuf
< 1371434889 513601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gö̈̈̈̈̈̈  del
< 1371434891 852926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371435175 785885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :send pocky
< 1371435219 781359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is provable if and only if it halts.
< 1371435411 326701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck's sake
< 1371435429 348528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm spoiled for intelligent criticism after finding that sci-fi blog the other day
< 1371435482 532187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am unable to make the sequent calculus of nim game. (I tried, but it doesn't work properly.) Do you know how to do this?
< 1371435528 710384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I can do the subtraction game (which is related to the nim game).
< 1371435675 957427 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson of the day: nobody can be bothered to do intelligent long-form critiques of homestuck
< 1371435701 977170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use shorthand?
< 1371435740 73235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371435740 572416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hands are the same length
< 1371435836 243260 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371435836 352772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly i do not know shorthand
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< 1371436457 975955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if growing a mustache is a defense against people drawing mustaches on pictures of you
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< 1371439621 144110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ah mimicry?
< 1371441500 310624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Cofree (Yoneda f) is useful.
< 1371441505 292287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Coop f a = a :< (forall b. (Coop f a -> b) -> f b)
< 1371441512 104109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that useful?
< 1371441517 409849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it isn't.
< 1371441592 981899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuppa coffee
< 1371441622 753188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Functor (Coop f) where fmap f (x :< k) = f x :< (. (. fmap f)) k
< 1371441636 473350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Comonad (Coop f) where { extract (x :< _) = x; duplicate w@(_ :< k) = w :< (. (. duplicate)) k }
< 1371442153 201661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371442952 285455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Beer, Burritos, and Bonghits Diet
< 1371443263 495553 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :copyright kmc
< 1371443287 340325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :photo of me in a lab coat on the cover of the book
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< 1371444634 213538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monad
< 1371444636 5291 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed monad? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371444668 402668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monads
< 1371444670 526866 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
< 1371444683 517407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run >'indexed monad' echo 'Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors.'
< 1371444687 272767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371444687 939309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monads
< 1371444689 719048 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed monads? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371444700 780051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't that thing do antipluralization?
< 1371444705 144513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/?
< 1371444706 721906 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \     then cat /dev/urandom; \     elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \     then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \     elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \     then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \     else echo "$1? ¯\
< 1371444709 986855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monad
< 1371444711 879230 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :indexed monad? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371444717 360650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1371444722 172959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv 'indexed monad' wisdom/
< 1371444725 906383 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371444726 649185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monads
< 1371444728 636712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors.
< 1371444748 15794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:51  The other meaning is monad on an indexed category.
< 1371444748 893109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371444767 148699 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dolio
< 1371444769 16029 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dolio? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371444773 968880 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not worth listening to, clearly
< 1371444781 113838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category' >> wisdom/'indexed monad'
< 1371444784 338614 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371444785 477800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monads
< 1371444787 271195 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. \ Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category
< 1371444901 689141 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TCS 110: Object-oriented Programming for Artists
< 1371444903 272380 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Introduction to object-oriented programming for artists. Focus on understanding the metaphors and potential of object-oriented programming for sound, video, performance, and interactive installations.
< 1371445396 434277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh man #haskell is so great right now
< 1371445416 537020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this one person who regularly tells beginners that Applicative and Monad instances should disagree
< 1371445424 122364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now everything is an argument about that
< 1371445522 181881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and praytell what are the ops doing about this
< 1371445523 663919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371445547 335163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :participating
< 1371445550 675896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you do
< 1371445552 920711 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@d154-5-184-233.bchsia.telus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371445555 961785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was promised an iron fist
< 1371445567 600273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you join #haskell you can have a temporary iron fist
< 1371445575 794330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only if you use it well
< 1371445584 702134 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like a few dozen iron fists, tied to one another
< 1371445586 708388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this person is actually malicious, though I don't know.
< 1371445588 198033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm drunk so, no
< 1371445593 960592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'malicious' is not really the standard
< 1371445604 789206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371445625 636511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever the standard is it should be extensional, with the goal of making the channel a pleasant place.
< 1371445667 962678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But malice is an easy heuristicthing.
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< 1371451706 535404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, so the decision of whether to use i or -i is like the decision of which way the rows and columns go in a matrix.
< 1371451803 334262 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-166.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371451816 256904 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-166.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
< 1371451900 487612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb
< 1371452534 344522 :nooga_!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371452619 279956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Not for the other use | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric
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< 1371465313 387133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371466602 23363 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist
< 1371466604 600009 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1371466651 375084 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, can you start tagging the `slist with something to sort of describe the update without being too spoilery so I can see if I've already read it?
< 1371466658 963737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Sgeo, stop making slist updates and start making olist updates
< 1371466668 679420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:26 < theresa> [A6A6I1] ====> (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=008191)
< 1371466671 673049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:26 < theresa> new: 247 pesterlines (ROXY: 86); 5 images; 5 pages
< 1371466673 474773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you get a bot like that in here
< 1371466713 205880 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't know
< 1371466717 376454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just don't know
< 1371466744 903240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i though homestuck was on hiatus...)
< 1371466758 615122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i wish.......................................)
< 1371466773 977216 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe it's off hiatus.....................................)
< 1371466774 940551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\...//
< 1371466787 261997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi atus
< 1371466799 904946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi atrus
< 1371466805 782125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember atrus?????????????????????
< 1371466808 699761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371466812 528684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :from uh riven
< 1371466820 87382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and myst and the other ones
< 1371466830 831603 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about atriq?
< 1371466834 238591 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember atriq?
< 1371466837 558145 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371466838 251603 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hated atriq
< 1371466851 346995 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that guy
< 1371466856 150813 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoying cheery prick
< 1371466867 298438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked atriq
< 1371466885 380944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish they'd come back
< 1371466886 36571 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1371466911 111406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hh atriq
< 1371466913 451585 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahtrihq ohr two
< 1371466943 640132 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it is off hiatus
< 1371466956 217190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo...................................... . . . . . . . . . . . .
< 1371466961 761100 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Edit: Megapause over. Snipped everything except the awesome HTML table below because of how sweet it is. "
< 1371466970 836734 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, this is the fourth update since the hiatus
< 1371467021 506986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ok what book on linear algebra should i read
< 1371467045 492919 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Stainless Steel Rat by Harry Harrison
< 1371467080 295594 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: idk
< 1371467093 903865 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally about linear algebra
< 1371467099 458248 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at all about rats
< 1371467105 812852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: well i just ordered one
< 1371467108 609043 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371467109 860816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i hope you name that one
< 1371467111 608710 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good
< 1371467117 517904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would i know
< 1371467120 355595 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371467127 830099 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, Stainless Steel Rat is less about rats than Of Mice and Men is about mice
< 1371467137 803847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone described it as being unspoilt by applications
< 1371467140 286435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sounds good??
< 1371467146 550252 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that does sound good
< 1371467217 464819 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iv never really had a linear algebra book . . . iv had a linear algebra course and there was sort of a book there but the course went a lot more in depth than the book and most of the exercises werent from the book [they were more interesting than the book exercises]
< 1371467227 682450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what course was it
< 1371467235 942048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i have that course
< 1371467268 916277 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-)
< 1371467274 233103 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway whats the book you got
< 1371467293 881239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the course you got
< 1371467315 766458 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i supposed to answer that because im not going to
< 1371467324 244815 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A course is a course, of course, of course
< 1371467366 190358 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was good though...unspoilt by applications
< 1371467371 27578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could start with your social security number and just go from there
< 1371467382 926425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what book did you use
< 1371467396 827974 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the book wasnt really used much at all
< 1371467403 726434 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does it matter...
< 1371467409 651595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what was it called
< 1371467413 264227 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
< 1371467420 641178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the book spoilt by applications
< 1371467424 131124 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371467426 779444 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget but i dont think so
< 1371467435 60843 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it "Latin Beyond GCSE"
< 1371467445 15233 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371467452 791128 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Writing Latin"?
< 1371467456 598674 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371467456 963352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like mcse
< 1371467462 791358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371467465 567526 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was writing latin
< 1371467465 639495 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more general
< 1371467485 557492 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, was yours Writing Latin?
< 1371467493 90078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: was it "really" writing latin or are you just trying to get Taneb off your case
< 1371467501 147569 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you got me...
< 1371467519 731724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so transparent, mnoqy
< 1371467526 700024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: maybe..........................yes(no)
< 1371467533 303526 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay
< 1371467536 323600 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mine is
< 1371467553 705898 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to do a linear algebra exam now
< 1371467571 120199 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope predicative datives come up
< 1371467576 571979 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like predicative datives
< 1371467578 127845 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371467614 859137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: so what's with all the moustaches on super mega lately
< 1371467647 448138 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the most recent super mega??
< 1371467654 667834 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that has a moustache in it
< 1371467670 101453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but also other ones
< 1371467755 642435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: whoa dude are linear transformations like concatenative languages
< 1371467769 84995 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes(no)
< 1371467772 188332 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what
< 1371467783 947369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly
< 1371467862 695841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i actually meant the way "composition" and "application" are kind of similar......
< 1371467901 237110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf.........
< 1371467918 805305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude it's totally a good sense maker
< 1371468021 567777 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺)
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< 1371470313 418852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:58:50:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Junction_from_Mass_Ave.JPG there is a nuclear reactor in this photo
< 1371470316 421580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:58:56:  don't you think that should be mentioned in the description
< 1371470318 925224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it is...
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< 1371485415 957752 :lasserix!~quassel@ip98-164-252-242.oc.oc.cox.net PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."
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< 1371491043 61177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is now
< 1371491195 809028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371491197 180654 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you DdEe4Aai
< 1371491210 244483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoever the hell you are
< 1371491664 455328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DdEe4Aai take a wild guess
< 1371491731 71922 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking kmc's middle name.
< 1371491756 735537 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weird parents?)
< 1371491882 134014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you generate that account name so people can't find out your wikipedia secrets
< 1371491909 757088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow [[fork bomb]] has managed to not grow 5000 examples since i deleted 90% of them
< 1371491912 764047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :praise the lord
< 1371491921 88997 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Revision as of 05:56, 29 May 2013 (edit)
< 1371491921 165647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rcmaehl (talk | contribs)
< 1371491921 237491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Only 1 DOS example is needed.)
< 1371491925 896924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latest revision as of 01:39, 2 June 2013 (edit) (undo)
< 1371491925 972900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :75.131.26.156 (talk)
< 1371491926 44895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Undid revision 557293529 -- This is needed for context and removing it as content is deletionism at its finest.)
< 1371491947 45203 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did it have a "fork bombs in popular culture" section? 
< 1371491947 242080 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371491973 444692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: with the obscurity of some of the languages people added fork bombs in, it practically qualified as one :P
< 1371491979 125510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork bombs in unpopular culture
< 1371491984 282820 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fork bombs and their relation to knife bombs" section.
< 1371492054 401549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the weirdest, most jarring thing when I'm like reading a wikipedia article on some topic like, I don't know, "solid state disk", and then at the bottom there's like "in episode 57.45 of the big bang theory, some character made a joke about a solid state disk"
< 1371492127 802945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371492133 351249 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't say that in [[Solid-state drive]].
< 1371492135 240933 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You liar.
< 1371492143 23485 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I-I was just giving a hypothetical example!
< 1371492165 723061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if big bang theory gets to 57 seasons then we are truly doomed
< 1371492177 178168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there should be a show Big Band Theory
< 1371492179 731831 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought that was just a fractional episode number.
< 1371492201 111489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is such a band
< 1371492672 265466 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is Jackie from ECO Energy Engineering company, a leading LED Lighting manufacturer in China."  This spam is semantic!
< 1371492731 28407 :fizzie!~fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It can reach fabulous brightness at low watt.)
< 1371493835 616457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371494271 758970 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :watt's all this then
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< 1371505669 823844 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that feel when a senior dev submits a O(n^3) solution to a O(n) problem
< 1371505675 482408 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing for code review
< 1371505727 435780 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are you and how do you pronounce your nick
< 1371505735 924246 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it "face v"
< 1371505740 33096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"facevee"
< 1371505786 202268 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some things are not meant to be pronounced
< 1371505805 628728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, where does your *username* come from?
< 1371505813 962207 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes from a smiley face, duh
< 1371505825 359851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean the username, not the nickname.
< 1371505841 495730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nycs"
< 1371505866 644074 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*runs away*
< 1371505978 989407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont scare :(
< 1371505992 508630 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :be afraid
< 1371506094 966665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is everyone +v
< 1371506158 579648 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's +v?
< 1371506172 101938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc as well as other people
< 1371506188 48492 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including Gregor
< 1371506192 134787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't everyone, though.
< 1371506200 927014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone who counts.
< 1371506339 888845 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the O(n^3) solution probably makes the real problem fairly well obfuscated, must be great for "Job Security"
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< 1371506366 640883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :twist: every O(n) solution is an O(n^3) solution
< 1371506373 957917 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more work you do overall, the more places to hide useful work
< 1371506434 275100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 counts
< 1371506436 368025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he counted to 38 at least
< 1371506523 388185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A O(n^3) solution might be better than O(n) if the difference in constant factors is big enough, and n is small enough
< 1371506551 468709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if n = 0
< 1371506556 856335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when is n ever small
< 1371506568 388933 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n is getting bigger every day, FreeFull
< 1371506572 553856 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moore's law and that
< 1371506575 313446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let n be, like, a really big number
< 1371506642 215291 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 17 or something
< 1371506764 117313 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :100000000000
< 1371506789 485454 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :let n be the biggest number
< 1371506810 108523 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, as I said, 17
< 1371506887 162185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constant factors can be pretty big
< 1371506907 184625 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 14?
< 1371506911 570750 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-252.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 is pretty big
< 1371506933 22344 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 is not a constant
< 1371506933 118839 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as big as 17, though.
< 1371507337 972657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't n mean the amount of data to process or something like that?
< 1371507960 266074 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but we don't seem to agree on exactly how much data that is
< 1371508032 603407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if we don't know what the problem is, how can we know how much data that is?
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< 1371508055 221525 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we agreed on 17.
< 1371508095 897310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma blah
< 1371508096 43863 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah has a karma of 26052
< 1371508178 809026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how lambdabot was using 6% CPU for a second
< 1371508192 160848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, lambdabot uses a lot of CPU in general
< 1371508194 138106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an irc bot anywy
< 1371508222 142920 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you regret your purchase
< 1371508235 91292 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe it stores karma as a unary coe?
< 1371508236 328690 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*code
< 1371508261 395952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How much CPU does your sentience matrix use? 
< 1371508261 874867 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: think cps in common lisp.
< 1371508264 199240 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you know, given the quality of some of lambdabot's code I wouldn't rule it out
< 1371508274 602795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: So... not much, then? 
< 1371508275 186285 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i said that you suggested a different implementation strategy for heap synchronization ( namely optimistic concurrency)
< 1371508295 352723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's beyond human ken, I think.
< 1371508345 124962 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: or maybe like.  it queries every single command ever sent in order to count up the karma
< 1371508350 348229 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and instead of storing karma it stores a chatlog
< 1371508355 26199 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's O(number of messages logged)
< 1371508363 242604 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't imagine something much worse? XD

< 1371508375 60592 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it selects random lines from the chatlogs
< 1371508389 727312 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then stores them in a list
< 1371508396 395064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i wanted a bot that determined karma by determining all the times anyone's ever mentioned your name and then using some kind of modified spam filter to classify the references as positive or negative
< 1371508400 105995 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they have a karma increment in them
< 1371508401 368953 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and summing them up
< 1371508419 925505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently the current iteration of fungot has, in the last six days, used 16 seconds of CPU time. If I read ps right.)
< 1371508420 280284 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: to use the utf8 egg.
< 1371508449 400175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that 16 minutes? I don't know what the unit of that column is.
< 1371508465 295278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 minutes seems like an awful lot for fungot
< 1371508465 829180 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that was absurdly involved. that's true.
< 1371508506 463987 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I remember doing sentiment analysis in AI class; it was amazing how inaccurate it was
< 1371508561 413148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the bits about semantics in a NLP class. They were all so crude.
< 1371508570 685437 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Little Pony class
< 1371508578 699844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Little Pony.
< 1371508620 817666 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MLP analysis sounds a lot easier; you could probably identify most ponies by their color scheme.
< 1371508641 392361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all pony-invariant descriptors and whatnot.
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< 1371508938 317076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, SURF features are patented too? I was thinking (i.e., hoping) SIFT was the exception rather than the rule.
< 1371508955 270824 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is patented.
< 1371509101 456903 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1371509715 438301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy-piggledy / bifunctoriality
< 1371509858 615164 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't run any IRC bots but X seems to use about 33 minutes per day here
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< 1371510043 472874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good story about the money machine
< 1371510117 267609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought so
< 1371510125 688973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thoughtcrime.org/stories/money-machine/
< 1371510586 313764 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those things seem designed basically just to embarrass the person inside of them :/
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< 1371510939 593247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371511004 502955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our school had us sell magazines and wrapping paper and whatever, but the funds went specifically towards a class trip
< 1371511011 365607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure the company took a nice cut, though
< 1371511052 614422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some... americant hing
< 1371511057 958601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no recollection of anything like this happening to me
< 1371511063 229564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds incredibly american at least
< 1371511066 964996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely yes
< 1371511089 2163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no such recollection either
< 1371511142 799446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We sold toilet paper to fund class trips in grades 1-6.
< 1371511168 857686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume your prices were not competitive with wal-mart
< 1371511204 306135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counting delivery from the nearest wal-mart, perhaps.
< 1371511221 624437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were reasonably large units.
< 1371511233 17887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, maybe in bunches of 40 rolls? 
< 1371511250 277886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So perhaps the pricing was reasonably competitive.
< 1371511298 747878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there's a magazine full of stories and stuff written by school kids, that I think we also sold.
< 1371511328 316590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kev%C3%A4tp%C3%B6rri%C3%A4inen
< 1371511343 753053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lovely UTF-8 there.
< 1371511374 798620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, you got some tiny rewards for selling that thing.
< 1371511423 984381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We never had a money machine, though.
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< 1371515916 218140 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm no longer totally convinced that every Turing machine either halts or does not halt.
< 1371515924 374283 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Goldbach's conjecture doesn't have a truth value.
< 1371516003 455784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well definitely there is a TM where ZFC can't prove it halts or doesn't, unless ZFC is inconsistent
< 1371516011 701118 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371516024 717443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me that a Turing machine must either halts or does not halt (maybe I am wrong); I made a sequent calculus of Turing machine so it halts if and only if it is provable, I think (unless I made a mistake).
< 1371516028 145117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zfc, more like sucksfc
< 1371516050 405610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and likewise for whatever other formal logic you want to use to talk about turing machines
< 1371516058 161193 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the cool kids work in linear logic with no axioms.
< 1371516060 378932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zfc38
< 1371516071 878633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would use that axiom system
< 1371516088 983320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZFC 98
< 1371516089 138843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different kind of logic are useful for different things.
< 1371516095 250585 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suddenly I feel like there's a topology here.
< 1371516202 54559 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The singleton set {X} is closed if and only if ZFC proves that X halts or that X does not halt.
< 1371516232 891642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is that how it works?
< 1371516249 27543 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I certainly haven't defined the entire topology yet.
< 1371516250 977861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well boolean algebras have Stone spaces
< 1371516266 64718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this relates logic and topology somehow
< 1371516278 69918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad i know only a little logic and no topology
< 1371516289 693482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to prove that a Turing machine halts if and only if it does halt, but this isn't the case with not halting.
< 1371516321 338592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there linear logic with no axioms?
< 1371516326 166714 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're saying that "for all Turing machines X, X does not halt if and only if X does not halt" is not provable?
< 1371516333 57396 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should say "linear logic with no additional axioms".
< 1371516343 289625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK.
< 1371516368 317090 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In mathematics, Stone's representation theorem for Boolean algebras states that every Boolean algebra is isomorphic to a field of sets." No shit?
< 1371516375 439295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No, I am just saying that it isn't necessarily provable if it doesn't halt. Sometimes it may be.
< 1371516383 282097 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that.
< 1371516397 732339 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, have you seen the pidgeonhole principle?
< 1371516432 785421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In Potion of Confusing, the message says "All of the objects (except one) are what they seem; there are no secret objects or fake wall or anything like that."
< 1371516439 245553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Shouldn't that say "fake walls"?
< 1371516479 547403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I suppose that would work too.
< 1371516518 641078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that "what they seem" is according to MegaZeux; if you don't know much about MegaZeux then this message probably won't help much. (MegaZeux is open source though, so that might help a bit.)
< 1371516528 883754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think "fake wall" is iggrammatical.
< 1371516906 11515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't intend to fix it right now (although you can fix it if you want to).
< 1371516938 799923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'patches welcome'
< 1371516991 956084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like the thing where someone asks for help with their program and someone suggests a bunch of ways to improve it and they respond with "patches welcome".
< 1371517013 665083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I might fix it later, though.
< 1371517022 313463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, when I continue to work on that game and add more levels.
< 1371517037 419442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1gdh5u/help_tracking_down_a_possible_memory_leak_in/
< 1371517057 25493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371517082 278632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i give up on the punctuation for "eg, ie, etc", etc.
< 1371517082 492292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just... that specific person
< 1371517084 102268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you should use DevURandom instead of DevRandom, unless you want to wait a long time for cryptographically secure genetic results"
< 1371517087 141210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh
< 1371517099 198646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really questionable that /dev/random should exist
< 1371517137 709984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in typical configurations urandom is *cryptographically* unpredictable
< 1371517141 65325 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works differently on different OSs, doesn't it?  like I remember reading that BSD's "random" was actually a PRNG seeded by a guaranteed-safe amount of entropy
< 1371517142 981181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not information-theoretically unpredictable
< 1371517153 423813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: where else will i dump my spare entropy hth
< 1371517211 535508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think i heard that /dev/urandom is even better than /dev/random for cryptography for reasons other than speed
< 1371517214 541732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't understand the reasons
< 1371517222 485230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all you need is like 256 bits of entropy at startup and you can generate cryptographically secure random numbers indefinitely
< 1371517238 163135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for basically the same reason that you can encrypt arbitrarily long things with AES using a 256 bit key
< 1371517242 311603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that's probably not /really/ true
< 1371517278 842050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i mean 'indefinitely' in a practical sense
< 1371517286 444995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you use aes in ctr mode as a good rng
< 1371517294 427550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should think so
< 1371517303 469282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's not a v. good stream cipher
< 1371517308 348688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371517309 839594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i might be missing something
< 1371517310 751666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, would it be slow
< 1371517314 448997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371517325 145677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux urandom uses some cryptographic hashing instead
< 1371517326 793113 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it typically, like N bits of PRNG seed gets you ~2^N bits of output?
< 1371517331 703296 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like, safe output
< 1371517393 593484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-cryptographic PRNGs like Mersenne Twister or MWC256 have a much larger internal state, but I think that's because they need to be fast and can't do much mixing on each output
< 1371517408 9653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact MT has a more expensive step that happens each n words where n words is also the state size
< 1371517462 89689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a reason to use a non-cryptographic PRNG except in special cases?
< 1371517469 90423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :speeeeeeeeeeeeed
< 1371517480 437818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :needing a bunch of random numbers quickly isn't that special of a case, to me
< 1371517486 729677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone happen to use zsh
< 1371517501 819399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I do think that language builtin RNGs should err on the side of cryptographic strength
< 1371517512 979862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "special" I meant "non-default".
< 1371517524 255938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then
< 1371517528 173433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my question was really mostly about speed. Are cryptographic PRNGs that much slower?
< 1371517539 79517 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course now we have like, RDRAND, soooo
< 1371517554 902763 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On a i5-3210M (2.5GHz) Ivybridge (2 cores, 4 threads) I get a peak of ~99.6 million 64 bit rdrands per second with 4 threads which equates to ~6.374 billion bits per second.  Not bad at all."   wow
< 1371517566 969519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I used ARCFOUR in Famicom Hangman, which works fine, even though that is a very slow computer!
< 1371517581 736696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that Python has random.SystemRandom() which is an object with the same API as the random module itself, and using urandom
< 1371517586 505587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be even better if they were swapped
< 1371517596 766935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did you drop the first several thousand outputs?
< 1371517611 682456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that will finally get rid of the /dev/random seeding problem.   
< 1371517616 818330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It will automatically do that if you don't put the space bar immediately as soon as you turn it on.
< 1371517662 432920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
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< 1371517673 726053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes plans to cheat at Famicom Hangman using RC4 biases

< 1371517684 123772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc that's illegal
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< 1371517970 144031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably do in an emulator since you can step each frame, to make a TAS, I suppose. However, the microphone and the initial contents of RAM are used for additional entropy if available. On the title screen (and after you win and lose), it generates (and discards) at least a thousand random numbers per frame. During the game, it generates and discards one per frame.
< 1371518193 961548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: of course, anything that makes default functionality slower will be bad for marketing your language
< 1371518239 611011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if there's a fast RNG function, microbenchmark writers won't find it, or they'll complain about how unintuitive it is
< 1371518259 259504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas approximately nobody is microbenchmarking languages on the basis of 'how easy is it to write broken crypto in this language'
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< 1371518329 897083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if GHC could support lazy unboxed arrays.  keep a bitmap saying whether each element is a thunk or not
< 1371518375 675766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unboxed arrays of machine-word-sized elements?
< 1371518380 737157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool to have a language where String is some kind of awesomely efficient rope structure but still has the lazy char-at-a-time semantics
< 1371518382 786065 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah, I've seen the pigeonhole principle many times.
< 1371518388 226217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they have to be at least that big, but they could be bigger
< 1371518410 766764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371518438 310918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and of course you can hide that and just pad out things smaller than a machine word)
< 1371518475 206279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if one should put the bits at the beginning of the array, or have cache line sized chunks each with their own bitmap, or what
< 1371518556 59522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you had an unboxed array of Word32 on a 64-bit machine then you wouldn't need a separate bitmap at all
< 1371518577 733807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could put the Word32 in the upper half of the machine word, and tag the low bit
< 1371518622 448111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could do that with any Word32, not just an array...
< 1371518629 710942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like how Haskell's "better string structure" is just an array. :(
< 1371518632 173398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting the tags back in the etc.
< 1371518638 714617 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: speaking of like nonintuitiveness or whatever, I don't know if you're interested or anything but the way rdrand works is kind of interesting
< 1371518690 662469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I have a vague understanding.  it's based on drift between two oscillators, then a conditioner, then an internal PRNG?
< 1371518710 384507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do this to avoid having analog components, which need to be redesigned on each die shrink
< 1371518721 148328 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, like, the UI?  basically like, you use the instruction and then it sets a flag if it succeeded, otherwise you can retry
< 1371518725 662596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that
< 1371518730 473069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah interesting
< 1371518731 541427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the bandwidth is limited (100 million calls per second or so?) across cores
< 1371518735 48911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet people get that wrong too
< 1371518741 427590 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, the internals are really really cool
< 1371518751 15933 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a *digital* random noise generator
< 1371518769 260587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think in a dream last night I wondered whether the amount of entropy in /dev/random would form an exploitable side channel in some circumstances
< 1371518791 166790 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would there be a way to derive that information externally?
< 1371518806 29999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any user program can read /dev/random and see when it blocks
< 1371518813 524975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh.
< 1371518816 404998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which tells you about how much /dev/randoming other processes have been doing
< 1371518832 23151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote dream
< 1371518835 852215 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :150)  catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream \ 233)  back to legal tender, that expression really makes me daydream. Like, there'd be black-market tender. Out-of-town hug shops where people exchange tenderness you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE. \ 243)  Gregor, yeah, but P
< 1371518843 99809 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm    so like
< 1371518861 372477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Linux has /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail
< 1371518865 338530 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that could be used as a timing attack, because you could use it to know when other processes are asking for entropy
< 1371518871 855568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha nice shachaf
< 1371518874 642311 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could use it to find out when some process is doing some particular thing?
< 1371518875 895655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hm, yeah that too
< 1371518890 128834 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess if you're on the same box you could already do like a cache timing attack
< 1371518924 705374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mine seems to clim up to 190 and then drop to 128
< 1371518927 352185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :over and over
< 1371518932 612913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1371518934 272290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because it's feeding some of that entropy into urandom?
< 1371518940 873905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.
< 1371518945 70880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes down to ~3 when you cat /dev/random
< 1371518949 812697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/you/I/
< 1371518981 314324 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My entropy availability goes up to eleven.
< 1371518985 917767 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because observing the entropy makes it less random clearly
< 1371519025 292250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file read_wakeup_threshold contains the number of bits  of  entropy required  for  waking  up processes that sleep waiting for entropy from /dev/random.  The default is 64.  The file write_wakeup_threshold  con‐ tains  the  number  of bits of entropy below which we wake up processes that do a select(2) or poll(2) for write access to /dev/random.   These values can be changed by writing to the files.
< 1371519164 190403 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The value of entropy_avail could be used as a source of entropy.
< 1371519182 27972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion..........................no...........
< 1371519237 966878 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: YOU DON’T SAY?
< 1371519281 91842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't say what
< 1371519396 584863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: speaking of keyboards do you think you could make a keylogger based on microphone input of someone typing
< 1371519404 589300 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on a laptop)
< 1371519411 209077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i've heard of that
< 1371519435 439777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean make a flash game or something that secretly logs your passwords
< 1371519509 684035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML5 Microphone API
< 1371519522 285922 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML5 Keylogging API
< 1371519549 502799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also HTML5 lets you play and record audio but it has no way to isolate audio from different origins in the acoustic surroundings of the computer!
< 1371519711 653519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are full of dumb things
< 1371519732 637405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is CoYoneda a design pattern
< 1371519776 339340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a book of design patterns which gradually turns into a maths book
< 1371519803 719543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really think the client should be programmed not to send all keys to the webpage. Someone once at FreeGeek once wanted to use a webpage to test the keyboard, and some keys interfere; I suggested instead to use the program included in Linux for this purpose, which result in not interfering with anything!
< 1371519885 13640 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It should also report the size of the document area as the screen resolution, instead of the actual screen resolution, and if a script resizes a window to a specific size, to make it larger than that so that the document area will be of the specified size instead.)
< 1371519934 253845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should make a twitter account
< 1371519953 281899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to make a Twitter account; I have no need for such a thing.
< 1371519961 424990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a book of design patterns which gradually turns into a snake
< 1371519978 169447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one has a *need* for it.
< 1371520006 758220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just use IRC or whatever.
< 1371520020 740492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I follow you on IRC?
< 1371520043 285570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the IRC log file, is one way.
< 1371521535 157826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/snuznluz.shtml
< 1371521592 632272 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O it's an April Fools joke
< 1371521631 533376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.beeminder.com is sort of the same thing.
< 1371521721 577377 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laughing while describing your service does not seem like the best idea ever
< 1371521743 49830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371521748 168115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if your service is jokeserver
< 1371522681 1949 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371523413 83513 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1371523541 77221 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist
< 1371523542 859224 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1371523548 47958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo...............olist...........
< 1371523567 433039 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I can do an `olist but it would be a lie
< 1371523567 824988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're updating the wrong comic
< 1371523572 206450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't lie
< 1371524583 182293 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1371524934 717683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Changing server
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< 1371525120 272599 :elliott_!elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :Guest73516
< 1371525182 389723 :Guest73516!elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1371525266 474747 :elliott__!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott
< 1371525622 381707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma-all
< 1371525622 493249 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah                 31337
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< 1371525622 653265 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : c/c                   499
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< 1371525626 490277 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : libc                   56
< 1371525628 507038 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : dmwit                  55
< 1371525630 497247 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf                53
< 1371525632 496488 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : monochrom              52
< 1371525634 506352 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : ##c                    48
< 1371525636 500488 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Notepad                46
< 1371525638 500724 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `karma' failed with: <>
< 1371525818 572455 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371526361 59827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the freenode servers list lies about IPv6. :(
< 1371527128 604071 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, `erfdate
< 1371527202 447320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ?
< 1371527223 572667 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, Erfworld updated
< 1371527230 644250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And?
< 1371527253 911906 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It amuses me that another thing updated that isn't the thing you want to see updated
< 1371527262 467714 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371527292 818813 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I didn't say that I'm amused that the thing you want to update didn't update
< 1371527363 319912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duly noted and recorded in your file for future reference.
< 1371527658 283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your permanent record
< 1371527684 581646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's going a little far isn't it
< 1371527690 131578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's permanent
< 1371528437 953471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371528598 255029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monad
< 1371528600 351054 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. \ Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category
< 1371528609 340863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###

< 1371528619 759972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What?
< 1371528622 494770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right.
< 1371528640 909271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '2s/$/./' wisdom/indexed\ monad
< 1371528644 937176 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371528645 849022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? indexed monad
< 1371528647 672496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexed monads are just categories enriched over the monoidal category of endofunctors. \ Indexed monads are just monads on an indexed category.
< 1371528652 138464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better.
< 1371528660 549905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###

< 1371528666 898688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371528678 952285 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/35Qxgty.gif
< 1371528681 100341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"considered harmful when preceded by its quotation" considered harmful when preceded by its quotation
< 1371528683 392418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that _really_ supposed to be two different lines.
< 1371528697 133568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: what. why.
< 1371528697 899543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc++
< 1371528699 608730 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aXb0Bd6_460sa.gif
< 1371528711 84158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :owls!
< 1371528728 139063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes?
< 1371528738 15288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There are two different meanings for the phrase. How should I do it?
< 1371528757 635094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i dunno.
< 1371528782 759910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't any of the links loading...
< 1371528793 740515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're still using IE, hth
< 1371528813 954019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it fails at an earlier point than that hth
< 1371528922 860669 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1371528938 382171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she eating a kitten help
< 1371528967 723018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am
< 1371529126 193315 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm
< 1371529127 402728 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kittens
< 1371529188 148010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other white meat?
< 1371529306 422170 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371529457 217416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'malicious' is not really the standard <-- i've heard "stupid" is sometimes a good substitute hth
< 1371530145 294957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa[...] <-- you seem stressed you should relax some hth
< 1371530145 389633 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371530161 233466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1371530161 334912 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1371530166 208221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh misread
< 1371530194 100729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nicks are just so similar
< 1371530237 115119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wasn't it "incompetent' hth
< 1371530447 969197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nope that's a later mangling hth
< 1371530471 896120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have you ever considered quitting "hth"
< 1371530505 244421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw op me hth
< 1371530511 893888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i agree, op elliott
< 1371530521 784878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then kick Phantom_Hoover and crown mnoqy
< 1371530556 274605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait it's been attributed to napoleon hm
< 1371530580 294885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course he obviously said it in french hth
< 1371530627 147087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy is chaotic right
< 1371530733 445643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Le mot impossible n'est pas français."
< 1371530802 41394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 894
< 1371530803 919210 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 894: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly
< 1371530966 775616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo
< 1371531159 134263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ts
< 1371531311 356066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371531511 741267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371531893 507798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: should i sleep
< 1371531962 588237 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371531967 256669 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth
< 1371532009 103865 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: fuck
< 1371532421 509151 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: Bike-is-being-unpleasant
< 1371532626 135970 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371532853 667119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what is the difference between lovers and 3-colorings of graphs..................
< 1371532866 669469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :baby don't hurt me
< 1371532876 748648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drummers have no soul in general hth
< 1371533479 761157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371534031 30368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikiquote seems to doubt the napoleon attribution, given that it is from 2003.
< 1371534111 947841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder whether in a generation we will be able to distinguish false and true references at all
< 1371534244 317738 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wtf @ question
< 1371534278 438196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I hope predicative datives come up
< 1371534289 448769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wtf predicative datives
< 1371534291 74711 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :why predicative datives is like wtf
< 1371534343 347089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: *Are
< 1371534346 761229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are
< 1371534385 135317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its is
< 1371534463 72059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : mnoqy: whoa dude are linear transformations like concatenative languages <-- you may be confused by the fact they're both monoids hth
< 1371534481 175618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe categories
< 1371534491 437825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *it's
< 1371534502 415978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *its
< 1371534504 457646 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its its
< 1371534548 824072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how a freenode oper accidentally klined the entirety of webchat
< 1371534552 167498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by messing up the syntax
< 1371534561 594829 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::')
< 1371534565 71625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now a billion people are joining #freenode asking why they got klined
< 1371534606 983747 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1371534612 116207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is beautiful
< 1371534663 277625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also #freenode is literally the worst channel
< 1371534670 764278 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than #esoteric ???
< 1371534690 76752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't file: pages have a proper history link, i wanted to see if the description has been changed
< 1371534716 731400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the kline messages say it was for "harrassing people"
< 1371534721 846264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ppl are kind of upset about it
< 1371534725 60282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*message said
< 1371534730 27643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i can get to it by pressing edit on the description first
< 1371534747 207964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm on esolang?
< 1371534773 180170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no on wikipedia.
< 1371534778 548691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps the file is on commons
< 1371534780 232887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i found it https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Grand_Junction_from_Mass_Ave.JPG&diff=98335089&oldid=76213178
< 1371534794 123208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(edited yesterday)
< 1371534799 120474 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll down :P
< 1371534985 883146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah that commons stuff is confusing
< 1371535017 470204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something else that irritates me is when people link to commons pictures directly without context
< 1371535145 492559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DdEe4Aai? did kmc accidentally switch username and password?
< 1371535199 489114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's me
< 1371535211 254852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would my wikipedia username be related to anything else
< 1371535217 635020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's random
< 1371535219 958133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :password is random as well
< 1371535268 29781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :concurrent haskell, multiocular o and methylamine... yeah that's kmc all right.
< 1371535286 672857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt kmc has just scrambled to fix his password away from kmc
< 1371535338 359710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371535348 404337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know my interests
< 1371535354 765448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they reverted my methylamine edit
< 1371535356 830921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastards
< 1371535362 463703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371535364 664975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also tried to create Category:Toroidal foods
< 1371535368 752932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :deleted
< 1371535371 108463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bastards
< 1371535399 536867 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone delete that!!
< 1371535482 570534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they hate freedom
< 1371535551 227676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it is because they hate toriodal foods.
< 1371535576 842124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :america is about freedom, the freedom to eat foods of any topological genus you like
< 1371535582 744362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to deep fry them as well
< 1371535618 300619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: technically "concurrent haskell" + "multiocular o" narrows it down to someone in this channel, and "methylamine" does the rest hth
< 1371535661 738201 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what foods have genus, say, three
< 1371535661 895836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about your reddit username
< 1371535664 14438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep fried bagels, check
< 1371535667 936429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :once upon a time i knew what it was "but i forgot"
< 1371535701 548622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm more obsessed with multiocular o than most
< 1371535722 621065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genus_(mathematics)#Orientable_surface hth
< 1371535725 854576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well there are braided breads
< 1371535733 520681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the holes usually go away in baking I guess
< 1371535784 981211 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ?? those aren't foods!
< 1371535793 398706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although technically it's only the surface that is toroidal for bakery
< 1371535899 341117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kringle hth
< 1371535921 425245 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice
< 1371535929 566518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happened to all of kmc's edits?
< 1371535946 703327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only see two in -- oh, never mind.
< 1371535992 617037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they were reverted by the CIA, NSA, FBI and RIAA hth
< 1371536011 20276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes with edit wars between the organizations
< 1371536051 570973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew someone deleted the popular culture reference of methylamine
< 1371536054 882676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf do they use a picture of a german pretzel
< 1371536059 844828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular culture sections are the worst thing
< 1371536082 780467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :popular culture sections in popular culture: not very popular
< 1371536106 318173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : (→‎Popular culture:  methylamine is not capable of being aware - removed the section because it is just trivia anyway) (undo)
< 1371536109 288192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371536124 698623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet that person kills intelligent calcium, too
< 1371536248 294833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn now i'm hungry for a pretzel
< 1371536575 745209 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1371536693 151751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not the only one who want a three button mouse with no scroll wheel.
< 1371536814 918569 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371536875 77382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371536915 107304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Last time you asked, I looked it up and it seemed possible to order it online.
< 1371537457 740657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy a serial mouse
< 1371537620 707972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cereal mouse
< 1371537758 884708 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey remember the house with the x in the middle that people used to draw
< 1371537777 84317 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good house.
< 1371537811 735292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gꙬ d house
< 1371537855 734336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, also what
< 1371537904 331681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371537937 718940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not remember this house
< 1371537938 572893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you draw a house as a square with diagonals with a triangle on top
< 1371537952 436664 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game is doing it without drawing a line twice
< 1371537956 698045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371537974 674802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to start at a vertex of odd degree?
< 1371537990 143798 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's babby's first eulerian whatever
< 1371537997 625979 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did taht shit back in elementary school man
< 1371538019 768913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371538032 776809 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION Math Expert

< 1371538034 10103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by people i mean first-graders (i was once among their ranks)
< 1371538039 115514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  o
< 1371538039 374996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \
< 1371538039 477567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/   \
< 1371538039 550069 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o---o
< 1371538039 550259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :|\ /|
< 1371538041 608714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :| X |
< 1371538044 144540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :|/ \|
< 1371538046 669539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :o---o
< 1371538049 137171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that
< 1371538051 616468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never did that???????
< 1371538055 617949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did it
< 1371538057 972256 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's deprived
< 1371538058 755175 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371538063 785645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just forgot
< 1371538067 120696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell is that so common i wonder
< 1371538088 47915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you ever join the pen 15 club
< 1371538090 891089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have the game where you press 1 + 1 = = = = = = = ... in a calculator
< 1371538097 806263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see how high you could get
< 1371538099 629070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would that do
< 1371538105 142771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :add 1 repeatedly
< 1371538107 987468 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed out on pen 15
< 1371538109 962187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it repeats the last action
< 1371538110 831128 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or did you just do the second part (drugz joke))
< 1371538115 160322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not 2 * 2 = = = = = =
< 1371538120 464873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much faster
< 1371538122 28130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the point is inefficiency hth
< 1371538125 213192 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds cheap
< 1371538125 806139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dnh
< 1371538130 810840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just type 99999999
< 1371538140 637173 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just type BB(3)
< 1371538142 144907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just drop out of school and go fuck yourself 
< 1371538151 176938 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a drugz joke
< 1371538153 455652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371538155 756285 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1371538157 44670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a go fuck yourself joke
< 1371538158 892514 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH that reminds me
< 1371538160 42974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's just kmc
< 1371538167 443844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this was all in hebrew btw hth
< 1371538174 512184 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at college orientation the coordinator had to clarify by "cigarette" she meant nicotine
< 1371538176 876709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that that matters, except for your club
< 1371538184 596532 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glorious blazeit future
< 1371538187 254375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371538189 978860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is in WA?
< 1371538193 133732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371538195 667321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what context
< 1371538203 80342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking a joint indoors is still a douche move
< 1371538204 32824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugz
< 1371538204 472893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending
< 1371538213 402856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just explaining that drugs weren't allowed in this event even if they're legal
< 1371538221 963381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371538232 229032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you misspelled drugz
< 1371538234 660951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had to clarify that you weren't allowed to give hallucinogens to prefrosh even if they were technically legal
< 1371538240 237527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoking near a building is also a terrible thing to do
< 1371538246 667596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you smoke near a building i can smell it from the inside
< 1371538248 391974 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how everybody my age is more used to weed than nicotine
< 1371538254 661412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i will "h8 u 4 ever"
< 1371538282 541762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think pot smoke smells far less offensive than cig smoke
< 1371538289 498779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but I found someone who's even more sensitive to smoking than I am.
< 1371538295 181707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(conal)
< 1371538297 294659 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my phrase was so boring it wasn't worthy of kool letterz, imo
< 1371538307 669533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to smoke hookah pretty regularly
< 1371538314 69857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :conal won't "h8 u 4 ever", though, because he's too nice
< 1371538315 670102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what weed smells like #deprivedofdrugz
< 1371538320 839516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1371538323 603225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pot smoke kind of pisses me off but tobacco smoke gets me to leave so
< 1371538324 404310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugzprived
< 1371538324 954972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd probably recognise it
< 1371538334 581585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to psychic drugz instinct and the internet
< 1371538343 448615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kmcnet
< 1371538346 657659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how to find out what weed smells like: 1) go to san francisco
< 1371538349 242384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it
< 1371538359 42648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc tells it like it is
< 1371538384 701017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could also just download the smell file into your smellotronic of course
< 1371538395 220992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-nod-
< 1371538401 106911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :For the other use | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric
< 1371538401 700555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds like literally the most expensive way to find out what weed smells like imaginable
< 1371538422 207648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um, it's p. cheap hth
< 1371538423 657059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think sense of smell doesn't have a small basis set and so smellotronics will never be practical :'(
< 1371538427 828085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take caltrain
< 1371538434 205639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :caltrain doesn't go to hexham
< 1371538436 15614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except on weekends
< 1371538447 240664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on football/baseball game days
< 1371538460 144172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why is it five "a"s
< 1371538465 175206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever the giants play the hexham hexers
< 1371538468 483272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :join #cslounge-trains to find out
< 1371538476 845284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha hexham hexers
< 1371538492 492863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo come to hexham
< 1371538496 111296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a real team or 'football clubbe' as you say
< 1371538506 839305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish
< 1371538507 815746 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does hexham have weed.
< 1371538515 909837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo come to san francisco
< 1371538522 62543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard the UK has mostly awful adulterated 'soapbar hash'
< 1371538533 754067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamfc.com/
< 1371538541 620362 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds kind of horrifying.
< 1371538547 135996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371538555 43407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i clicked-to-play the big flash thing
< 1371538556 656614 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. a new and exciting way to clean oneself + sell hemp products to idiots
< 1371538561 802979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's another click-to-play flash thing inside it
< 1371538566 776337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha
< 1371538567 820059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god
< 1371538571 946774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how deep does it go
< 1371538605 712476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexhamfc has 163 facebook likes
< 1371538614 711345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you click on the facebook logo it shows you a bigger picture of the facebook logo
< 1371538624 565117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this website is pretty hexham
< 1371538633 15511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to see if taneb ""liked"" it
< 1371538675 994605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr Ants
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< 1371538822 256351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok what other games did we play in elementary school
< 1371538865 25936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in maths class in third grade we had an ""official"" game where you would think of a number and then go up and name predicates that narrowed it down until it was determined uniquely
< 1371538876 902706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was "a fun game""
< 1371538929 275196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should go back to third grade
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< 1371540464 327878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people claiming that Maybe-alikes which don't distinguish Nothing and Just Nothing are monads :'(
< 1371541793 958695 :nooga_!~nooga@87-205-14-49.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371544325 125687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people confusing utf-8 with unicode :'(
< 1371544672 824138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: maybe is usually a functor
< 1371544675 910748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ^ ^ ^
< 1371544849 289867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy is usually a fungot
< 1371544850 2318 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think she's already in bed and all. she replies, " what does " advice" do? it would require
< 1371546207 304667 :irctc283!6338d67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.56.214.123 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371546233 930384 :irctc283!6338d67b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.56.214.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
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< 1371546266 442010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome irctc283
< 1371546269 845188 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14irctc283: Welcome11 to the intern13ation02al hub for es13ote13ric 02pro06grammin06g 07language design and11 dep10loyment!03 For more06 i08nfor10m11ati04on, check 04out our wiki: http://04esola06n09gs.or05g/09wi12ki09/Main_05Page. (For the other08 k11ind07 of esoter08ica, try10 #esoteri06c on irc.dal.net.06)
< 1371546270 977055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao
< 1371546275 663848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!list
< 1371546299 58429 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"people claiming that Maybe-alikes which don't distinguish Nothing and Just Nothing are monads :'("
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< 1371546302 73687 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you even make such a thing
< 1371546314 724558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in haskell hth
< 1371546378 955882 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I can think of is null values
< 1371546382 968491 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I wouldn't call those maybe-alike at all.
< 1371546391 219344 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather, I would call maybes null-like in uses >.<
< 1371546521 257924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't there a Java thing that explicitly called itself a Maybe that did that? 
< 1371548785 524583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some sequent calculus logic where the turnstile indicates that whatever is on one side is better than that on the other side?
< 1371548932 187083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally in sequent calculus you have exactly one sequent below the line. What if this rule isn't used? If there is more than one sequent below the line, you still have to use all of them, just as you would for multiple sequents above the line.
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< 1371554291 769710 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523
< 1371554297 551081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages?
< 1371554297 650145 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today.
< 1371554461 951767 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371554656 133476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: There was an olist update while you were gone, by the way.
< 1371554813 512089 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the update
< 1371554869 271369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Want to be added to `olist?
< 1371554877 637119 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, olist
< 1371554888 74466 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should have been an slist too
< 1371554899 445249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about slist hth
< 1371554902 392419 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist the rogue talks to the dog some more
< 1371554903 983247 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1371554923 622846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh.
< 1371554926 581137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to fix slist.
< 1371554929 676382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 olist
< 1371554931 286305 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :head: cannot open `olist' for reading: No such file or directory
< 1371554931 823124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 slist
< 1371554933 445398 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :head: cannot open `slist' for reading: No such file or directory
< 1371554934 820995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 bin/olist
< 1371554936 326512 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1371554937 640895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head -n1 bin/slist
< 1371554940 66078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0"): "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit
< 1371554968 41503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/:/${@:+ }$@:/' bin/slist
< 1371554972 46602 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371554973 936272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist the rogue talks to the dog some more
< 1371554975 573739 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist the rogue talks to the dog some more: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1371554983 342818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, should it have parentheses or something?
< 1371554990 576030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist (...): ...
< 1371555000 646778 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I hope to see some progress by the time I return
< 1371555005 348468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can always provide those yourself.
< 1371555017 800383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already solved the problem. hth
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< 1371561496 400158 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
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< 1371566241 55937 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay guys what's up
< 1371566246 134837 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on in the world?
< 1371566261 905971 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how great is humanity doing?
< 1371566371 112001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be doing greater, I think
< 1371566529 360433 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your suggestions?
< 1371566535 919854 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can I do right now about it?
< 1371566580 105976 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can be vaguely dissatisfied with the current state of humanity
< 1371566601 600255 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so pessimist
< 1371566606 901044 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pessimistic
< 1371567083 284106 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so olsner what about you how are you doing?
< 1371569456 995782 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371570394 461191 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbAuGclbw0c
< 1371570397 128351 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a video...
< 1371570399 910633 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from bbc comedy...
< 1371570403 261349 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocked by channel 4
< 1371570407 230520 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on copyright grounds
< 1371570414 146650 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't
< 1371570444 30257 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works from here
< 1371570469 526482 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371570473 378701 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is fucking insane
< 1371571190 794698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what is more insane
< 1371571203 27786 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The time of tonight's sunset in Reykjavik
< 1371571489 642860 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time
< 1371571501 156047 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 past midnight
< 1371571681 564248 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1371571690 798622 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sunrise only about 3 hours later too
< 1371571793 371490 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1371572105 6943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/d6645df20881164379949e93bc2c08ae/tumblr_mojnlaGspx1rdbszlo1_1280.jpg
< 1371572154 689773 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-238.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what game is that
< 1371572164 681768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crusader kings ii
< 1371572165 952403 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :victoria something wasn't it
< 1371572567 808225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trials and tribulations of living in a metric country: camera tripod mounts use a 1/4 inch UNC thread, but the local hardware stores sell nuts and bolts only in the metric system.
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< 1371573786 576877 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The above reaction occurs explosively with enough force to shatter a Pyrex beaker."
< 1371573788 817069 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks wikipedia
< 1371573815 480245 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it go dink or boom?
< 1371573821 558806 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(caesium + water forming caesium hydroxide)
< 1371573994 740123 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh
< 1371573996 836516 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caesiu,
< 1371574000 589816 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*caesium
< 1371574002 742132 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so overrated
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< 1371575321 779577 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola busco a personas para charlar un rato
< 1371575452 397552 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god
< 1371575455 37528 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not another spaniard
< 1371575469 995393 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did this happen frequently?
< 1371575476 816644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happened once before
< 1371575489 129064 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they started slinging abuse at me in spanish for some reason
< 1371575781 475292 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holis
< 1371575818 104981 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you... argentinian?
< 1371575885 268327 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371576124 517050 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-170-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371576500 529641 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hay nadien que hable espanol
< 1371576530 222009 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english, motherfucker, do you speak it?
< 1371576536 565699 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brendalis, no
< 1371576569 640112 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :el �ltimo hombre que hablaba espa�ol dej� tras decir algunas cosas sobre mi madre
< 1371576712 670603 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was that google translated or do you actually hablas español?
< 1371576713 893229 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aprendan a hablar español
< 1371576740 354321 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371576760 992763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371576761 769187 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ya soy fluido en espa�ol gracias
< 1371576768 130409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: español, do you habla it?
< 1371576787 520298 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nein, aber ich spreche deutsch
< 1371576795 314862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you're not utf-8 hth
< 1371576802 201192 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know
< 1371576810 531168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to change xchat's character set
< 1371576816 933614 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: natürlich
< 1371576864 426743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just make it easy for everyone and ban xchat hth
< 1371576872 363753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo
< 1371576889 954364 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh i don't get your "hth" stuff everywhere
< 1371576893 488121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ok ban it _unless_ you make utf-8 work properly.
< 1371576896 632555 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's in the settings hth
< 1371576899 908284 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+S
< 1371576905 203627 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode -> edit -> char set -> utf-8
< 1371576910 338986 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's per server :'))
< 1371576912 382144 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hth)
< 1371576919 749783 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371576920 799550 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck
< 1371576925 958435 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1371576930 78330 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371576993 482693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: fwiw it's the hth singularity hth
< 1371577076 689324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make hth into an esolang of some sort
< 1371577085 272185 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it makes sense
< 1371577102 274615 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: like a default answer of java2k?
< 1371577112 82510 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure hth
< 1371577114 374255 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2+2" "5, hth"
< 1371577250 114744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*elc*es
< 1371577254 248508 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/*elc*es: No such file or directory
< 1371577266 951489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/*elc*es
< 1371577268 626733 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PART :#esoteric
< 1371577268 698680 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/welcome.es
< 1371577275 470346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1371577403 127752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es
< 1371577405 163436 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.)
< 1371577419 397712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE NOW
< 1371577605 40902 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371577712 72855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371577844 409558 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371577876 475450 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-170-129.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1371577880 495019 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net NICK :Taneb
< 1371578105 354591 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run run run run
< 1371578106 753762 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found
< 1371578120 374207 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do do run run run, do do run run
< 1371578135 282821 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0 $0
< 1371578136 885541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/bash: /bin/bash: cannot execute binary file
< 1371578167 651571 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0 exec $0
< 1371578169 480018 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: exec: No such file or directory
< 1371578178 543692 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it expects a script
< 1371578196 280548 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $0
< 1371578197 777071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash
< 1371578227 252618 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0
< 1371578256 60633 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c $0 -c echo $0
< 1371578258 392303 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.1$
< 1371578273 599429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371578287 298242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.1$
< 1371578309 623198 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm
< 1371578406 660539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you ran out of ptys or something?
< 1371578534 814979 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah
< 1371578542 802449 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just did something different
< 1371578672 939977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's probably something to do with HackEgo's sandboxing
< 1371578804 759262 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 -c $0 -c yes
< 1371578816 18980 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok...
< 1371578835 781406 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.1$
< 1371579734 226451 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1371579741 64657 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371580116 275904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo hi'
< 1371580117 443824 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371580152 590795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash
< 1371580167 436965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1371580183 556514 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device \ bash: no job control in this shell \ bash-4.1$
< 1371580189 466156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371580251 722343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i think the problem is the -c's aren't actually _nested_, but done in parallel, so you are running bash instances with no arguments, which means interactive.
< 1371580281 974557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to need some fearsome escaping to get them nested
< 1371580283 651958 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash -c "bash -c echo foo"?
< 1371580308 635169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nested deeply
< 1371581894 841729 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371581918 983047 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so have you heard about your younger brother? His name is Oliver.
< 1371581922 299413 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was born about a month ago.
< 1371581923 475882 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLA
< 1371581924 64826 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHAO
< 1371581927 310949 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi brendalis.
< 1371581960 721227 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YO SOY BRENDALIS
< 1371581962 21207 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es
< 1371581964 31123 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.)
< 1371581985 877778 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NADA
< 1371582052 813391 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.ru
< 1371582054 357339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.ru? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371582058 250376 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO HAY NADIEN
< 1371582090 767104 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.bf
< 1371582092 700546 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.bf? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371582095 595913 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371582115 271037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i think that might not fit on one irc line hth
< 1371582169 641851 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D
< 1371582433 365130 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLA :)
< 1371582461 987390 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tswett
< 1371582464 866788 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is livin' it up with the penguins
< 1371582472 547239 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote nephew
< 1371582474 469402 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :173)  elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew.   wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here?   what   Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle.
< 1371582492 637442 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMO ESTA:-[
< 1371582497 579338 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, have you come to terms with being australian yet
< 1371582520 431649 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yep.
< 1371582520 503575 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brendalis, donde esta la biblioteca
< 1371582531 931248 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gudday mate. Drop bears.
< 1371582574 506784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'; DROP BEARS --
< 1371582609 481340 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, also dingoes
< 1371582614 547798 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shrimps on barbies
< 1371582624 852210 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also don't australians say 'cunt' a lot)
< 1371582640 689523 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO
< 1371582668 414668 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry brendalis-- wait what do you know about australia
< 1371582682 490674 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, right. Cunt.
< 1371582708 123303 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cunt cunt cunt. Barbie. Drop bears. Dingo.
< 1371582731 565282 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crikey
< 1371582735 329381 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't forget crikey
< 1371582743 197530 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crikey cunt koala.
< 1371582748 42467 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew
< 1371582748 159902 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'mate', but i was leaving that one out because it was so obvious
< 1371582780 509760 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy, cunt. Yarr. Barbie.
< 1371582832 976752 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cambra. Kangaroo.
< 1371582835 47773 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO ENTIENDO TU HITIOMA
< 1371582849 3455 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1371582850 94056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloq mayús: control de crucero para impresionar
< 1371583008 523407 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brendalis, no es obvio a estas alturas que se trata de un canal de habla Ingl�s (y finland�s)
< 1371583028 178387 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no 
< 1371583036 220971 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :se treta de hablar en español 
< 1371583075 477077 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y para que sepas 
< 1371583075 588883 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y veas que es en español metete 
< 1371583084 89038 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola brendalis, ¿cómo estás?
< 1371583084 624734 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mañana y ya veras 
< 1371583091 311087 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bn y tu
< 1371583111 95532 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ves que no vas a encontrar a nadie a hablar con usted aqu�, sino por google translate
< 1371583125 553054 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm, bien.
< 1371583143 681991 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Por qu� me tienes que socavar Tswett
< 1371583151 282031 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, cómo se dice "I've been playing Starcraft".
< 1371583159 375022 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jajajajaja 
< 1371583161 537833 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qué es "socavar"?
< 1371583167 219669 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371583180 576 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :te caiste con los kilos menol
< 1371583180 901857 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate... can't keep track of subjects and objects
< 1371583194 379039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Yo no comprendo nada
< 1371583214 280003 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: me parece correcto. "Por qué me tienes que socavar" = "why do you have to undermine me".
< 1371583250 894212 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case it got confused when I put it back into English to see if it made any sense.
< 1371583290 504324 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371583337 581193 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He estado jugando", eh? Bueno... he estado jugando Starcraft. Trato de entrar en la Silver League.
< 1371583357 220146 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, why...
< 1371583364 372746 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't silver league translated into spanish
< 1371583373 634650 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bueno, bueno.
< 1371583378 151023 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trato de entrar en la liga Silver.
< 1371583389 77882 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :de donde heres
< 1371583413 352165 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371583432 556673 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soy de los EEUU. Míchigan.
< 1371583436 27035 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371583501 138366 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1371583557 485905 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so
< 1371583570 699832 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely somewhere there is a website with dimensions of things
< 1371583583 838029 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you need a quick comparison you can look one up
< 1371583653 276461 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :howbigisthething.com
< 1371583654 38084 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371583675 228549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: that does note exist)
< 1371583706 619055 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, does it note?
< 1371583723 178491 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUES
< 1371583725 436647 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ESTUDIAR
< 1371583743 127567 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADIÓS A TODOS my good friends
< 1371583784 85484 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371584678 877012 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :odos haqui son aburrido yo me voy para chat version 2
< 1371584678 988697 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PART :#esoteric
< 1371584719 251463 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jag förstår inte
< 1371584857 485004 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that person randomly messaged me too...
< 1371584862 710918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he PM everyone or something?
< 1371584957 396974 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371584959 441632 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he did not
< 1371584967 876721 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps he thought your nick was spanish
< 1371584999 184710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh
< 1371585096 968628 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random people who just joined pming you sure is weird
< 1371585106 187189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never get randomly messaged........is my nick not intriguing enough
< 1371585132 180474 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is weird :/  though sometimes I wish it happened a little more often... or well, maybe not the random people who just joined part.
< 1371585568 751275 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes get randomly messaged on here
< 1371585601 419741 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because of ##gaygeeks
< 1371585626 807916 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: once, some hebrew speaking guy will message you out of nowhere hth
< 1371585648 33837 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode has lgbt channels?  huh, cool
< 1371585654 406001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: oh that happens sometimes
< 1371585675 40805 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make my name more obviously dutch...
< 1371585684 183426 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: It has had for quite a long time
< 1371585688 202665 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :njooojdl
< 1371585689 975712 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear half of #haskell is dutch
< 1371585694 493583 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although #gaygeeks is more popular than ##gaygeeks
< 1371585707 901132 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's... two different ones?
< 1371585708 286238 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(njiiijdl?)
< 1371585718 863523 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :njiiijdlsch
< 1371585728 436686 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, is #gaygeeks older than the ## rule
< 1371585737 298051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only get randomly PMed when I'm active
< 1371585750 259074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most often when I'm telling someone new to #nethack that no, the channel is not about hacking into networks
< 1371585759 85157 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pfff*
< 1371585763 439838 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: #gaygeeks was the original but there was a schism
< 1371585763 609361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably like 30% of the time their response is to ask the same question again, except in a PM to me
< 1371585774 651642 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's happened to me ooonce i think
< 1371585774 756052 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :active in politics?
< 1371585776 221282 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute
< 1371585784 484141 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, over whether or not you should heed network policies on channel names?
< 1371585785 302995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have to be voted for or something
< 1371585803 855118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is: prime ministered)
< 1371585811 891863 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No
< 1371585813 421531 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if i start a new channel and it doesn't have ## will i die
< 1371585822 912877 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe it's quite a lot older than the policy
< 1371585824 440520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i watched a bit of yes, prime minister recently so that's probably the reason for the joke
< 1371585825 962527 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my biggest freenode worry
< 1371585827 441694 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, no it's like
< 1371585847 700957 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're the 'official' representative of that name you can have #
< 1371585850 156378 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise ##
< 1371585865 634234 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwvo 'official'?
< 1371585867 210342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the name starts with #
< 1371585892 291571 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then an official channel is ##hi and an unofficial one is ###hi
< 1371585907 260129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the name is an infinite sequence of #s
< 1371585912 816509 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i guess that COULD conflict with like
< 1371585916 487454 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unofficial channel for "hi"
< 1371585917 605693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the official and unofficial channels are the same channel
< 1371585926 213873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they're not
< 1371585937 400361 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unofficial channel for hi is the official channel for #hi
< 1371585954 532176 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is talking to himself hth
< 1371586005 610713 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoooooooodl
< 1371586126 862348 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. the dutch word for "propyne" is pronounced "propene"
< 1371586133 229706 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dutch word for "propene" is pronounced "propane"
< 1371586152 771378 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the dutch word for "propane" is pronounced "pro-pahn"
< 1371586249 839576 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just english that has its vowels wrong
< 1371586512 113003 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is the dutch word for "propahn" pronounced?
< 1371586570 262765 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm "propahn" is a fixed point here
< 1371586688 276824 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> words . repeat $ propahn
< 1371586690 561491 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `propahn'
< 1371586697 30185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> words . repeat $ "propahn"
< 1371586698 55004 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char'
< 1371586698 141955 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :             with actual type...
< 1371586702 273570 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords . repeat $ "propahn"
< 1371586703 256464 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn propahn pr...
< 1371586725 577291 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, is there anything that would get shifted to 'y'
< 1371586773 367183 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1371586778 918769 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, how is "propyne" even pronounced
< 1371586787 436318 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro-pin or pro-pine?
< 1371586801 123145 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pine
< 1371586896 165123 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's prpn
< 1371586906 10302 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :porn?
< 1371586914 581503 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"propaine" would be pronounced "propyne" roughly
< 1371586971 557468 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the same way e.g. "cocaine" is pronounced rougly as "ko-kine")
< 1371586981 160533 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is?
< 1371586984 311289 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stress is on the /i/ part of the diphthong though
< 1371586990 360201 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was pronounced co-cain
< 1371586992 658416 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ko-kah-EE-nuh"
< 1371587002 432623 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dutch)
< 1371587021 270876 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait which language are we talking about
< 1371587046 85193 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english words pronounced as dutch reinterpreted as dutch hth
< 1371587081 628839 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course
< 1371587627 362801 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371587671 970179 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLA
< 1371587674 927482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-13:06.mmap.asc  'Due to insufficient permission checks in the virtual memory system, a tracing process (such as a debugger) may be able to modify portions of the traced process's address space to which the traced process itself does not have write access.'
< 1371587688 234449 :brendalis!~canaima@190.74.113.136 PART :#esoteric
< 1371587713 740611 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh.  that's sneaky
< 1371587726 657839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371587745 410453 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, Foo opens a file for read, Bar opens a debugger and connects it to Foo, and Bar abuses its debugger access to modify the file.
< 1371587750 649358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371587756 653856 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing mmappish?
< 1371587759 565786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of which you can do without special privileges
< 1371587764 817984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah Foo mmaps the file
< 1371587779 506913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah you can write to any file you have permission to read
< 1371587827 89517 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371587860 49030 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's evil
< 1371587874 64162 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-232.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371587933 110733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux has a history of dumb bugs too, but I feel like this particular one would have been discovered quickly in Linux
< 1371587944 409937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though
< 1371587963 943921 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371587964 987709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ptrace is like an infinite source of privilege escalation bugs
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< 1371587989 639981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... I remember seeing it show up a lot
< 1371587992 759620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it'd be super hard to secure
< 1371587996 762758 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-196-105.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1371587997 755623 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1371588006 63550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scariest parts of linux: ptrace, backwards compat layers, gpu access, any little-used driver / filesystem / protocol
< 1371588012 62357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that might be most of linux ;)
< 1371588037 630637 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn!!
< 1371588062 3035 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gpu access is probably scary everywhere >_<
< 1371588072 739260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that amd/nvidia drivers are something like as big as the entire linux kernel source tree
< 1371588075 826366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371588093 666094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the open-source drivers are smaller, but still awful terrible code, plus they're based on an incomplete understanding of the hardware
< 1371588093 985445 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's terrifying, it's like, the drivers /just for a single piece of hardware/ are like, bigger than all the other drivers
< 1371588102 536706 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I meant like the official ones
< 1371588108 948409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i have a great idea let's make all of that attack surface accessible to untrusted javascript code
< 1371588112 775951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1371588115 361837 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-220-232.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1371588163 741660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume there is also a large amount of code that runs on the card itself
< 1371588230 60825 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1371588239 430140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point I basically understand a "computer" to be a network of specialized computers communicating over various buses
< 1371588250 780660 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-204.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371588375 61943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-220-232.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371588458 192365 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-204.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/a0ad2807df0a09e378e1adf7d60ebced/tumblr_molqtoCHcF1qh3h8wo1_500.png PRISM comix
< 1371588463 512442 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey wow python has "cyclic infinite lists"
< 1371588482 21488 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = [1, [2, [3, None]]]; a[1][1][1] = a
< 1371588503 628972 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_, this is the kind of prism comix i can get behind
< 1371588630 514759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371588640 710546 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it still kind of amazes me that like, this "graphics driver" thing converts things like opengl and directx commands, in crazy ultra fast realtime, into a bunch of like, floating point assembly code that gets run on the gpu
< 1371588644 817086 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: so uh, the same infinite lists you get in anything with modifiable lists?
< 1371588648 30147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somehow it like, all works, and happens in milliseconds
< 1371588648 786416 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was opposed to what
< 1371588663 526740 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in the general sense
< 1371588694 854699 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yup, except they're not actually infinite lists
< 1371588706 284701 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's not infinite about it
< 1371588708 951905 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a contains itself but isn't a sublist of itself
< 1371588711 596589 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i don't get it
< 1371588735 249112 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well that's because you're using arrays in that way.
< 1371588740 955224 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you define "sublist" appropriately...
< 1371588745 217936 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to use a as a "linked list" kinda thing. there's no way to actually construct [1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, ...]
< 1371588773 725182 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-226-204.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1371588842 139124 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371588867 519396 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking hell
< 1371589015 481331 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-173.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371589026 196384 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use an IRC bouncer thing <.<
< 1371589073 286938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an irc client running on a server thing
< 1371589077 812906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one
< 1371589104 882441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt that like the same thing?  or...
< 1371589123 949105 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds complicated
< 1371589205 512824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of the same thing
< 1371589233 833669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a bouncer you run a local IRC client that connects to the bouncer
< 1371589240 267046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow
< 1371589252 491998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's simpler to just run irssi on the server and ssh/mosh in
< 1371589257 210513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i haven't tried the bouncer approach
< 1371589266 579273 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1371589328 890877 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1371589335 333347 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only done the latter thing
< 1371589901 110640 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371589962 9961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be simple if bitlbee hadn't just utterly broken around when my iptables rules disappeared
< 1371589996 375327 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1371590010 296887 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi sent me messages and i don't know what they are about
< 1371590018 940312 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also check out Minbif.
< 1371590028 927686 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he must be replying to messages i sent a million years ago
< 1371590457 91442 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
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< 1371591139 164927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also do the thing where the irssi on the server *is* the bouncer you connect to.
< 1371591176 743109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh?
< 1371591180 651236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an irssi module called "proxy" for that.
< 1371591189 967492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's been kind of sucky at times; I don't know how it is nowadays.
< 1371591193 794988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd
< 1371591216 237356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm bouncer method seems less secure too, unless you bother tunneling it over ssh
< 1371591228 726144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's for people who have a shell account somewhere and irssi there, but also want to use a GUI client when at home.
< 1371591233 598322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may trust the connection from your server to freenode more than random laptop public wifi
< 1371591244 951085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you do SSL; I think most bouncers support that.
< 1371591250 942652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine does authentication with client certs.
< 1371591253 97474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have to juggle certs :(
< 1371591256 88558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok
< 1371591257 997263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quassel supports SSL, it seems?
< 1371591262 527263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm biased because Mosh ;P
< 1371591288 542456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew a guy who ran all of his laptop network traffic through OpenVPN in UDP mode
< 1371591297 653095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all of his local clients would roam
< 1371591308 967936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty sweet
< 1371591333 58406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 99% of my talk through the bouncer these days comes through the irssi running on the same server as the bouncer; I just had this period of trying out a number of clients, and the bouncer made that easier.
< 1371591348 878444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The last percent is that Android IRC client thing.)
< 1371591454 148739 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :client+server+bouncer is kind of an odd architecture...
< 1371591478 962066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes it's client-client + client-server + bouncer + server.
< 1371591515 249975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though maybe people who use clients that involve a separate server component don't do bouncers? 
< 1371591574 134522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking to you right now by typing on a keyboard which emulates a 1980s keyboard protocol to talk to an X server which sends those keystrokes over a UNIX socket to another program which emulates a 1970s terminal and sends them on to another program which encrypts them and sends them out in UDP packets to another program emulating a 1970s terminal, running on an OS derived from a hobbyist's recreation of 1980s UNIX, which is actual
< 1371591581 113539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogram inside that terminal then talks to freenode
< 1371591597 925963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, computers are dumb
< 1371591603 618813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they are the best
< 1371591622 296249 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is cool how "building on the ruins" it obviously is
< 1371591628 742242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371591638 616387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon Linux and x86 will just be a compatibility layer
< 1371591643 562321 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially during boot~
< 1371591647 992468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :providing none of the actual services they were designed to
< 1371591664 285671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- which is actual"  "ogram inside --"  there seems to be a bit of a discontinuity there.
< 1371591680 475150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually compiled to run as a virtual machine on another OS I don't have access to, and the program inside that terminal then talks to freenode
< 1371591689 199076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i was copy-pasting from a description i gave earlier elsewhere
< 1371591695 826295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because damn if I can be bothered to type that all again
< 1371591709 65987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like that interview question "You type google.com at a browser and hit enter. What happens?"
< 1371591726 301325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'm ever asked that i swear i'll answer with monadology
< 1371591734 771894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so
< 1371591747 454794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone told me that good candidates start with switch debouncing
< 1371591763 205044 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Perfect! We've been looking for philosopher to join the DogBook team"
< 1371591763 980013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the people who start scribbling down the wave function of the enter key? 
< 1371591783 504638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of these days i should learn how transistors work
< 1371591795 969104 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm taking "design of logic circuits" this semester
< 1371591802 655600 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds cool
< 1371591804 171057 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that remotely electronicy, or more like vhdl
< 1371591813 123873 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the latter i guess
< 1371591815 334375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't sound very electronicy.
< 1371591823 834025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course you can't trust names.
< 1371591827 305948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i can take a good course on circuitry sometime
< 1371591833 127375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i do have elctrodynamics at some point so that's nice.
< 1371591856 690449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really blew off freshman E&M
< 1371591860 301756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i regret it, a little
< 1371591861 807415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had some obligatory eletronics, but it was mostly just calculating numbers in circuits with op-amps in them.
< 1371591868 501365 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo.
< 1371591880 325685 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have to take electrophysiology at some point. now that's something to look forward to
< 1371591899 645097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some people seem to consider op-amps quite holy.)
< 1371591910 620023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so you know how capacitors work, right? well a cell membrane is like a capacitor. but ALSO like a resistor. Plus it varies across the surface"
< 1371591944 17827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :transmission lines are also that
< 1371591965 357735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's kind of weird? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect
< 1371591991 950332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is weird
< 1371591993 392144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what's kind of weird? Physics.
< 1371591996 265154 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that kind of thing
< 1371592007 835416 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels so... topological? geometric?
< 1371592008 858680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what i can tell electrophysiology doesn't work with basic electrodynamics very well
< 1371592021 333818 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have like, proteins transporting individual calcium ions
< 1371592028 731479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was at MITERS and they were using braided conductors for some kind of scary high voltage and/or high current project
< 1371592031 703824 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even get a voltage out of that
< 1371592084 364136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually do you know what the REALLY high current "crush metal objects with magnetic fields" project used for a conductor? copper pipe with coolant flowing through it
< 1371592087 730410 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow transmission lines look hard
< 1371592123 569819 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike i heard the hairy ball theorem has applications in cell electrowhatevers
< 1371592145 473939 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh it probably does
< 1371592163 945123 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ugh!
< 1371592168 945168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hairy ball theorem is best theorem
< 1371592170 697849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://everything2.com/user/iceowl/writeups/No+user+serviceable+parts+inside classic story
< 1371592171 986606 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's just another cool thing i don't understand
< 1371592226 98298 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get up to http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/e/c/5ec607907b2588dc038c1ef0168475dc.png and my eyes glaze over
< 1371592259 743124 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's kind of cool to see after i drove past bonneville yesterday.
< 1371592275 386065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371592279 791960 :itsy!~digital_w@208.222.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371592301 559249 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, jesus
< 1371592311 627793 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the proof isn't that bad!)
< 1371592334 462970 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just, i drove through the columbia gorge, which is full of damns and massive fucking power lines
< 1371592351 121090 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: wow fuck i just realized that's a fourth derivative ;_;
< 1371592355 671959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool
< 1371592371 469272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country
< 1371592373 695948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of neat to think that i get most of my power from a historic dam
< 1371592383 544534 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re electricity, i direct you to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmOfxuI_gXg
< 1371592387 677968 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if everyone here hates the administration
< 1371592393 720146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's why there's a hydro plant on the seal of north korea
< 1371592399 308496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371592411 435927 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: whoa ._.
< 1371592416 525283 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1371592421 507310 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqgNrj6oEdc was the one i was looking for
< 1371592445 542567 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can actually help the electric company supply the world. Your electric meter runs backward and you suspect you've just discovered a great way for the university to save money through the totally inefficient, indirect generation of power through diesel generators." lol
< 1371592454 213033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trollybuses in SF say "ZERO EMISSIONS VEHICLE" which I thought was kind of bullshit until I realized the electricity comes from the Hetch Hetchy hydroelectric plants
< 1371592472 833208 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm amazed the cameraperson didn't fucking bolt
< 1371592490 705329 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a diagram of the yangtze
< 1371592494 301906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah those are the best Phantom_Hoover
< 1371592504 209323 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it's like an elevation map and it has all the dams drawn on it
< 1371592523 354309 :itsy!~digital_w@208.222.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone designed their own tshirt with a program printed on it? I'm just trying to now via several online t-shirt studios...  Unfortunately they're all a bit of a pain (not supporting monospace fonts, etc).
< 1371592558 112724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used Zazzle once and uploaded a huge-res png
< 1371592561 394496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked fine
< 1371592573 550495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they take PDF too but I wanted to do the rasterization myself just in case
< 1371592573 795489 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i liked it because it made me realise that hydro power is basically just a matter of mass flow and potential difference along the river's course
< 1371592616 688587 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i wonder if they use that to teach how electrical current works.
< 1371592629 541399 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the standard analogy
< 1371592639 336019 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well water yeah
< 1371592641 838440 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, gravity is
< 1371592642 819561 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydropower though?
< 1371592645 185832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a shirt that says "Beweis: klar. □" in LaTeX / Computer Modern
< 1371592653 705619 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno
< 1371592669 245910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they do around here. hmmmmm
< 1371592683 214012 :itsy!~digital_w@208.222.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I might try that, thanks...
< 1371592698 73358 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could definitely do a good demonstration with it
< 1371592703 237150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371592706 806255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, awesome field trip
< 1371592775 423743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-UTYzfNjKM
< 1371592796 267926 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how "Computer Architecture" and "Electromagnetic Fields and Waves" are both EE...
< 1371592812 742870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at MIT they put EE and CS in the same major even
< 1371592824 331824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you can declare like a concentration within Course VI
< 1371592841 923718 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, i thought they'd split them up by now.
< 1371592850 121078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The Helsinki metro advertises itself visibly as zero-emission in the regional-public-transit-route-finder guilt-trip emissions-for-different-modes-of-transit tables produced along the routes; that's because the electricity comes from "Finnish hydropower". (They don't give more details on that.)
< 1371592850 865029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also: i'm never going to look at substations the same way again ;_;
< 1371592858 331091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that was cool"
< 1371592886 675043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think the trams too.
< 1371592914 753338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, there's the details. "When you travel by tram or metro in Helsinki, you are using electricity produced by Finnish hydropower supplied by Helsingin Energia. -- HKL purchases the electricity needed for the tram and metro services from Helsingin Energia as certified hydropower, which means that the electricity is certified to have been produced by hydropower. Helsingin Energia produces ...
< 1371592920 781869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... electricity by hydropower at the Mankala, Ahvenkoski, Klåsarö and Ediskoski hydropower plants located by the River Kymijoki as well as at the Kemijoki power plant.")
< 1371592938 233610 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, there's an undergrad course covering ASIC
< 1371592946 438423 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and FPGAs
< 1371592961 262477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you see there's a Coursera course on how to write your own VLSI design/layout tools?
< 1371592964 348708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds insanely hardcore
< 1371592973 832048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus
< 1371592997 949051 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell is "Introduction to Computer Networks" (covering protocol layers, etc) in EE...
< 1371593013 995058 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's crosslisted.
< 1371593020 612748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION excited for school, sorry

< 1371593024 255757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering the other day if say Intel uses standard tools to design their processors
< 1371593024 472973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Because there are ELECTRONS in the COPPER.
< 1371593041 726334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if they have their own in-house stuff that's more capable than anything on the market
< 1371593043 220757 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"really, why isn't everything in the physics department"
< 1371593066 343726 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the other thing about the gorge is that there are a ton of wind turbines
< 1371593066 415703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except real maths, presumably.
< 1371593066 687645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a lot of CS/EE and CS/Ma cross listing
< 1371593084 343065 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what they're powering, because nobody lives out there, but whatever
< 1371593090 261201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some CS/Ph and maybe CS/APh (physics, applied physics)
< 1371593109 700319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm amused that Ph 125 was quantum and Ch 125 was quantum for chemists and Pl 125 was philosophy of quantum
< 1371593116 75000 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371593125 722299 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :relativistic quantum chemistry is p. terrifying
< 1371593140 232269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were quite a few wind turbines up in the Alps in Switzerland. (I guess it's windy?)
< 1371593140 779028 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting with the name
< 1371593144 169855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also somebody pointed out that quantum field theory and general relativity classes were scheduled at the same time
< 1371593147 153677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they conflicted
< 1371593148 137825 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :relativistic quantum chemistry is amazing
< 1371593156 429483 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. great
< 1371593163 952704 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad quantum effects aren't really relevant to neuro because god
< 1371593175 52719 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "gold is shiny and yellow because of contraction caused by relativistic electron motion" askdjfls
< 1371593192 354948 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371593215 835523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the GR textbook is a massive (heh) black book that says "GRAVITATION" on the cover
< 1371593224 775375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Gravitation-Physics-Series-Charles-Misner/dp/0716703440
< 1371593237 723420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the advanced number theory text is a slim yellow volume titled "Introduction to Arithmetic"
< 1371593260 464037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :physicists have the best PR
< 1371593306 307668 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't visited my university library and every time i remember that it troubles me
< 1371593316 976834 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you not
< 1371593321 133779 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those things are the best
< 1371593325 714706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==Bike
< 1371593330 835691 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've... not needed any books i guess
< 1371593348 364321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tended to buy the textbooks that looked cool rather than the ones for the courses i was taking
< 1371593352 801256 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is like the master of devouring university libraries
< 1371593354 399584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's pretty amazing
< 1371593385 546521 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :needed??
< 1371593400 648349 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally bought a book by kolmogorov, during orientation, on a subject i'll never use in my life
< 1371593413 598720 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because "wow, kolmogorov". i'm shallow)
< 1371593430 282464 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Explore applications, including pulsars and neutron stars, cosmology, the Schwarzschild geometry and gravitational collapse, and gravitational waves" yeah those are good applications
< 1371593443 761667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Build Your Own Neutron Star In 21 Days
< 1371593464 435134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :collapse the false vaccum in your spare time using household materials
< 1371593482 669931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn how to overcome the schwarzchild limit with this one weird old trick
< 1371593482 864412 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discover the Astounding Properties of Nuclear Matter!
< 1371593487 330866 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... XD
< 1371593502 815809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371593504 39240 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh gosh that reminds me of this thing
< 1371593504 870973 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.oneweirdkerneltrick.com/
< 1371593511 766723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the best
< 1371593519 349317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was made by some people the csloungers know
< 1371593521 256012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for SIGBOVIK
< 1371593547 516194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The possibility that we are living in a false vacuum has never been a cheering one to contemplate. Vacuum decay is the ultimate ecological catastrophe; in the new vacuum there are new constants of nature; after vacuum decay, not only is life as we know it impossible, so is chemistry as we know it.
< 1371593552 559672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, one could always draw stoic comfort from the possibility that perhaps in the course of time the new vacuum would sustain, if not life as we know it, at least some structures capable of knowing joy. This possibility has now been eliminated."
< 1371593569 673910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snort
< 1371593574 113335 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a sci-fi novel about that once
< 1371593576 848375 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is Kim's secret to keeping off the pounds while pregnant?? The blogs say Kim eats corn one kernel at a time. But we're talking of another kind of weird kernel trick!! "
< 1371593578 48305 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it needs to be updated!
< 1371593590 385257 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there like, some sci-fi novel where um... they were like, on a spaceship fleeing a vacuum collapse-esque thing?
< 1371593599 498745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which novel
< 1371593601 93875 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the one
< 1371593604 822148 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :schild's ladder
< 1371593609 869362 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, is it going to turn out that Kim stays slim while pregnant by contributing to Linux?
< 1371593612 174109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by egan, so, weird
< 1371593617 812832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong sense of "kernel" taneb
< 1371593618 487459 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and another where the far future denizens of the heat death universe sent messeners back in time to cause a vacuum collapse to spawn new universes rather than forever inhabit a dead one
< 1371593622 48764 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good guess though!
< 1371593641 160381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's um... gah.  what was it...)
< 1371593662 415162 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, optics for EE is 500-level...
< 1371593675 640107 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"524 Advanced Computer Architecture 3 Instruction set architectures, pipelining and super pipelining, instruction level parallelism, superscalar and VLIW processors, cache memory, thread-level parallelism and VLSI." seriously how is that EE
< 1371593680 256077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what year are you Bike
< 1371593686 885001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the book i was thinking of was _Time_ by Stephen Baxter
< 1371593689 383254 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not Darwin's Radio...
< 1371593691 261531 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :junior by credits
< 1371593692 880885 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh!  That might have been it
< 1371593694 886744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such an event would be one possible doomsday event. It was used as a plot device in a science-fiction story in 1988 by Geoffrey A. Landis,[16] in 2000 by Stephen Baxter,[17] and in 2002 by Greg Egan.[18]
< 1371593698 639267 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'll never be taking these things, but still
< 1371593702 496816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun to look at
< 1371593708 835934 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once read a sci fi book where they had a space ship powered by American "chedder" that someone had put in a particle accelerator for a laugh
< 1371593712 390908 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Manifold: Time?
< 1371593722 673607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that book!
< 1371593724 267506 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the space ship was just a Boeing 747
< 1371593735 28639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read _Time_ and _Space_.
< 1371593767 930370 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Xeelee books were really cool
< 1371593769 453075 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coolest class i could probably take is biomechanics: "Methods for analysis of rigid body and deformable mechanics; application to biological tissue, especially bone, cartilage, ligaments, tendon and muscle. "
< 1371593773 163342 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the civilization on a neutral star one *_*
< 1371593776 417916 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*neutron star
< 1371593777 497233 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the Unreal Tournament factor
< 1371593793 993582 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, didn't dragon's egg already do that
< 1371593794 603610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I read anything else by him.
< 1371593796 262411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I?
< 1371593831 851944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm... I don't know
< 1371593832 138319 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok if there's more than one book about neutron star civilizations, imo
< 1371593855 974879 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it tends to be like... totally crazy idea-filled books that are heavy on the silly sci-fi speculation and kind of light on the characters and stuff
< 1371593865 354042 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so um, if you like that kind of thing it can be fun
< 1371593868 758796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Sounds right.
< 1371593868 918165 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard sci-fi as it were
< 1371593870 963925 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vacuum Diagrams was really cool though
< 1371593880 598031 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i get ostracized for liking soft sci-fi more
< 1371593881 485861 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no read banks you fuck
< 1371593882 4015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love sci-fi
< 1371593885 640122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so easy
< 1371593886 580986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I loved the short stories in that one, I think his ideas kind of work better as short stories than longer ones
< 1371593902 355542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: huh? who's banks......
< 1371593904 814175 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite ever was one the one where members of the resistance end up being caught by the Qax and are fleeing the solar system on a starship
< 1371593908 228872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a missile ends up going after them
< 1371593909 802572 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, tell shachaf to read banks, leverage democracy
< 1371593916 966985 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the missile reconfigures itself over time to accelerate faster and faster
< 1371593924 547885 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, my sci-fi is softer than your sci-fi
< 1371593935 733132 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so they have to make more and more sacrifices, eventually brain-uploading when the missile accelerates to like 1000Gs
< 1371593936 692116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah well my sci-fi is so soft it's actually victorian romance!!!
< 1371593954 515259 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they finally deal with the missile by passing by a rotating black hole, stealing energy from it in the process, catching the missile in the ergosphere
< 1371593960 658644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, *jolts to like 1000gs
< 1371593963 571207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... only to find they're now going so fast they can't ever slow down
< 1371593965 696074 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, mine's a cold war era spy novel!
< 1371593973 148864 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, laundry?
< 1371593973 220824 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's been 10 million years in an unmoving reference frames
< 1371593974 221226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest sci-fi is arxiv papers
< 1371593974 550711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*frame
< 1371593980 536436 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol.
< 1371593981 63829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a paper on arxiv about how to build a self-replicating intergalactic exploration probe
< 1371593983 946704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc++
< 1371594000 412700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another paper about what to do to save earth when the sun blows up in 5 billion years or so
< 1371594008 719626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does require a fair amount of advance planning
< 1371594009 691048 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gosh that "neutron stars might actually be GUT-powered proton combustion chambers" was the best thing
< 1371594014 454215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what
< 1371594015 798479 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1371594021 505377 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009arXiv0912.0520D
< 1371594022 679270 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wt
< 1371594024 646146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :electroweak stars
< 1371594030 643309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the "how to save the earth" paper http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.4052
< 1371594035 821549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like really that paper is so cool
< 1371594042 60441 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Space scares me. Msg me when you have it sorted out
< 1371594049 770017 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371594052 752684 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :K
< 1371594062 190865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically its that at the core of a neutron star density could get so high it'd be like, 2 earths in the volume of an apple
< 1371594072 196631 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the energy'd be so high that it'd hit electroweak unification levels
< 1371594079 134662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The source of energy in the core that can at least temporarily balance gravity are standard-model non-perturbative baryon number (B) and lepton number (L) violating processes that allow the chemical potential of B+L to relax to zero" help
< 1371594080 666497 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that'd allow proton burning
< 1371594091 490957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "gigayears"
< 1371594099 445202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :proton burning...
< 1371594103 528121 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying that, being in the front of fast cars scares me
< 1371594104 804024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you get when you burn a proton
< 1371594105 451253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would provide a completely insane amount of energy
< 1371594111 389607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm easily scared
< 1371594112 622222 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :annihilation basically I think?
< 1371594112 693972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ArtSun, omg
< 1371594116 445451 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, conversion to pure energy
< 1371594121 698886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371594124 206496 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this really is sci-fi, nothing but sci-fi has such shitty names
< 1371594124 278279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, an oxidated proton, of course
< 1371594136 381901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neutrinos + gamma rays or I guess I don't remember what it generates >_<
< 1371594160 226989 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but because it's at the dead center, the redshift is so huge and neutrino capture is so huge that like, most of the energy won't really escape 
< 1371594179 264038 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, what department's classes should i check next...
< 1371594196 516394 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1371594207 357077 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there was like the um.  oh right.  the one about how if antiparticles repel matter (unlikely but not ruled out), black holes should serve as massive antineutrino guns
< 1371594208 860193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: should i read banks y/n
< 1371594211 217118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the part where they propose to adjust the earth's orbit by flinging asteroids past us repeatedly
< 1371594212 787784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gods, Spirits, Witchcraft and Possession" is a good course title
< 1371594213 220249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna go on a ramble to highlight how much I suck at physics
< 1371594219 250494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :banks is super cool!  I started with Look to Windward
< 1371594219 431512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ready, taneb
< 1371594226 932012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that is just the weirdest idea, the antigravity thing
< 1371594230 349736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although the `swing-by'- idea is an elegant method it will have some inherent problems which must be mentioned, for instance, such as the problem of a collision of the `swing-by' asteroid with Earth."
< 1371594234 272155 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, burning is sort of adding oxygen
< 1371594244 601301 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you burn a proton, you add oxygen
< 1371594246 6689 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gonna need to remember that next time i see "elegant" in programming.
< 1371594251 996913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think burning here is a metahpor... xD
< 1371594258 821950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem with these million near schemes is that civilization will probably collapse in the meantime
< 1371594258 933905 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would get you Fluorine
< 1371594262 476847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :million year*
< 1371594270 633984 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: see, that's why we need soft sci-fi!!
< 1371594275 862335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most common isotope of Oxygen has 16 neutrons
< 1371594279 63950 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soft scifi is cool too!  I like soft scifi
< 1371594280 780765 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :F-16 is unstable
< 1371594297 27772 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :civilizational changes in the long term are often sadly neglected
< 1371594303 242953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about victorian romance
< 1371594310 573523 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vinge was ok at it, weirdly
< 1371594323 690193 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it decays into O-15
< 1371594325 448166 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the future we don't have programmers, everything has software already so we just have archaelogists reverse engineering everything
< 1371594332 814756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1371594340 683053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey y'all should i read _The Mote in God's Eye_ y/n
< 1371594341 936914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is pretty close to true already
< 1371594345 359968 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371594358 8557 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, O-15 is also unstable, and it decays into N-15
< 1371594360 486513 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeesss the motie books are fun
< 1371594371 40316 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ｙ／ｎ
< 1371594372 182185 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :N-15 is stable
< 1371594373 343255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the sort of thing i wonder about
< 1371594386 35604 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since in terms of millions of years, i mean, humans have only had civilization for a few thousand
< 1371594391 454305 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust19.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371594408 574976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows what happens next. maybe disco could come back into fashion. anything's possible
< 1371594415 969263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust19.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com NICK :Guest96863
< 1371594422 565931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, burning protons gives you Nitrogen
< 1371594432 208235 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a proton
< 1371594432 306635 :Guest96863!~Phantom@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust19.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1371594432 378240 :Guest96863!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371594440 681646 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" folk concepts of sexual anatomy in traditional cultures in Western science" ooh la la
< 1371594448 583161 :Guest96863!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover
< 1371594474 707827 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but like yeah if I didn't actually post it here before
< 1371594478 770822 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the electroweak star thing is cooool
< 1371594480 783230 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, how much did I suck at physics
< 1371594496 992175 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i thought you were good at physics
< 1371594515 407698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm better at physics than I am at, eg, Chemistry
< 1371594526 996863 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371594547 977745 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when I have a physics problem I have a list of people to defer it to
< 1371594555 162168 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are pretty high up on the list
< 1371594632 306333 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I am off to bed now
< 1371594634 239697 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight!
< 1371594635 225390 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371594655 786021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nathan van doom
< 1371594668 790316 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if western civilization will collapse and wikipedia will be like Natural History. or maybe it won't collapse, it'll just change gradually into something very different
< 1371594678 608595 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's what "collapse" is anyway
< 1371594689 883851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll upload our brains into a 24/7 cyber orgy
< 1371594700 498957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will last until the power runs out or the computers break for some dumb reason
< 1371594705 979732 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371594706 344900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that will be the end of humankind
< 1371594712 547552 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :been readin too much sci-fi
< 1371594716 984550 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the one hand, system shock 2 is only �5 and i am bored
< 1371594724 814349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not played it?
< 1371594732 628170 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that reminds me i should read uh
< 1371594734 911646 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, i don't think i have the nervous fortitude to play system shock 2
< 1371594735 865915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: imo read non-banks
< 1371594752 154849 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one neuroscientist who proposed wireheading and mind control for society
< 1371594807 714410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you could read, uh, the short stories book kmc was reading
< 1371594811 117376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you finish it
< 1371594817 913586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet
< 1371594846 799920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anthropology of Epidemic Disease and Bioterrorism" now that sounds fun
< 1371594855 981143 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could go sit in...
< 1371594893 465759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anthropology of Life and Death" is one for the album names list
< 1371594983 937504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog
< 1371594988 148400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :last chance for the $20 thing
< 1371595039 64117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it gets funded........
< 1371595065 248476 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the $5 reward is... a desktop image
< 1371595204 700779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there are actually several algorithms for it, but obviously people don't just blab about it
< 1371595215 494390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, i'm thinking of the discreet logarithm problem
< 1371595215 718808 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what
< 1371595224 33919 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371595235 150502 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the discreet logarithm problem sounds fun
< 1371595245 228448 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go out to a strip club, do some logs on the fly
< 1371595260 929263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What's discreet, the logarithm or the problem?
< 1371595272 406134 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know you said it
< 1371595296 514196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes so you get to turn it from nonsense into something meaningful
< 1371595309 74123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is re https://twitter.com/pbarreto/status/347115211259514880 new algorithm for discrete logarithm problem
< 1371595318 295614 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1371595322 446079 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice.
< 1371595322 891434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lucky human-powered, pedal-driven, single-track vehicle, you
< 1371595340 736554 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well the logarithms being discreet is too obvious since that's like the whole point of crypto anyway
< 1371595343 105400 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how you never hear about discrete logarithm-based cryptography because it's so much harder to describe than primes
< 1371595345 599418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it must be the problem itself
< 1371595366 943258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't diffie-hellman discrete log?
< 1371595371 912359 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371595379 836807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DH is so easy to describe
< 1371595384 606507 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i mean in like popular cryptographic texts
< 1371595384 722698 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Diffie-Hellman_Key_Exchange.svg   I always found that bit easier to understand thatn like, RSA <.<
< 1371595389 304989 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean the code book
< 1371595389 890417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*than like
< 1371595406 128386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean DH is broken? @_@
< 1371595422 863777 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, the ffrench for "abstract" is "resumé"?
< 1371595430 834235 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing my mind here
< 1371595436 299511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it mean like "summary"
< 1371595441 785806 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using stupid irc encoding Bike
< 1371595444 327591 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah now that i think about it it must
< 1371595448 262067 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: um i don't think so
< 1371595451 498985 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this what it's been for everyone else when i said unicode characters
< 1371595453 647233 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1371595459 602046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ŕéśúḿé
< 1371595461 472272 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what i mean
< 1371595462 235372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "curriculum vitae" means like "life curriculum"? guessing
< 1371595465 181583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h́t́h́
< 1371595481 839877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: probably "curriculum" means something else
< 1371595488 698521 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'curriculum' is something to do with deeds
< 1371595495 8332 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: only for small characteristic fields, and i don't know if DH does that
< 1371595495 735208 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it's your life's deeds?
< 1371595514 314174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, their complexity argument fails for larger fields (?)
< 1371595532 801971 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora that diagram is so confusing
< 1371595539 972614 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371595551 349616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think it's exponentially slower the higher the characteristic
< 1371595572 192492 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it makes sense now
< 1371595582 450682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE mnoqy
< 1371595585 919574 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :MnOqY: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.)
< 1371595593 860765 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371595599 54140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i asked for WeLcOmE not for wElCoMe
< 1371595604 606972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :get it right HackEgo...........
< 1371595627 545959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's basically like.  alice and bob agree on a paint.  they each add their secret colors to the paint, and trade the mixtures.  then they add their secret color to the mixture they just got.  now they both have the same paint again
< 1371595640 920873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i read the article
< 1371595643 220017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weird thing is, it's possible to unmix paint.
< 1371595645 89032 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words are underrated
< 1371595645 907050 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fucked up
< 1371595646 290586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of those analogies that works as long as you forget everything you know about paint
< 1371595652 931441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1371595663 554254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :paint, more like pain't
< 1371595667 480941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: chromatography for the win
< 1371595670 562736 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how do you unmix paint
< 1371595680 280853 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mix it backwards duh
< 1371595682 218108 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, chromatography (but that's not really unmixing!)
< 1371595708 573205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not chromatography
< 1371595709 68628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember chromatographying some inks and paints as a kid
< 1371595713 340775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner's actually got it, let me find a video
< 1371595714 241119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with just like some paper
< 1371595757 221024 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the thing you do with um... like, water climbing up the strips or whatever?
< 1371595766 159886 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if it's the video I'm thinking of, that's not paint they're mixing (and they don't mix it like paint is mixed either)
< 1371595779 30364 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, yes but s/water/solvent/
< 1371595796 539533 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION greps logs. "Mexican people don't eat sugar, especially when it's a mixture of lice and tiger DNA"

< 1371595817 228727 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started off racist and then went weird
< 1371595827 117937 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you eat lice and tiger DNA?
< 1371595827 888850 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh good, i'm quite sure that's what you get when you fnord...
< 1371595845 371436 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is.
< 1371595912 950923 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.138.9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371595920 181560 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Whom_God_Should_Not_Have_Created:_Persians,_Jews,_and_Flies came up in the same log
< 1371595946 163348 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, found the video!
< 1371595947 368755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3YZ5veN_Bg
< 1371595960 453082 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"steve spangler science"
< 1371595967 611284 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is almost... informercially
< 1371596002 576037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're only selling science (probably, i don't watch this show)
< 1371596063 58400 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agree with olsner also
< 1371596147 34518 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371596225 988445 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371596336 798341 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371596369 929769 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they say it's "never been done on tv" you can be pretty sure it's stupid
< 1371596379 731129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's legit
< 1371596402 517619 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's legit in a seedy way
< 1371596415 140142 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile: i attempt to find an IPA for 'vajradhara', fail miserably
< 1371596485 36880 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371596503 737961 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's considered too obvious
< 1371596611 799363 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with ipa'ing is the vowel sounds
< 1371596625 794125 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know where you are with consonants but the vowels are so fiddly
< 1371596631 834287 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really, who even gives a shit about them
< 1371596654 146848 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers with their alphabets
< 1371596656 647756 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abjads for all
< 1371596664 486259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :abadabadoo
< 1371596869 477000 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think half the things i use my email for is password resets. i'm the least secure person ever
< 1371596892 357447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true single sign-on solution
< 1371596929 719790 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much how i use it ;_;
< 1371597032 244832 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do that but also i use the same three passwords for everything
< 1371597037 925117 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :double insecurity
< 1371597091 488921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :three > one
< 1371597138 392333 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'd probably be better off if my passwords could all be quotes from books or something
< 1371597143 333389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier to remember than muscle memory
< 1371597277 309031 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it kind of seems like that'd be more convenient and about as secure as littering numbers around the place
< 1371597337 742351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems more likely that people will lose passwords to phishing than dictionary attacks anyway
< 1371597390 360661 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, i'm not a security guy, can i just hire an intern to remember things for me
< 1371597627 495434 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1371597641 340108 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have the three whom god etc. article open in a tab
< 1371597669 848443 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how they bother making distinct racial charictures
< 1371597689 851940 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, other question, why are they called "discrete logarithm" and "modular exponentiation"
< 1371597700 819513 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of both calling them modular (or both discrete, i guess)
< 1371597759 839999 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note that regular logs still work in modular arithmetic
< 1371597806 645482 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, they do?
< 1371597814 601273 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1371597826 47299 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean thea algorithms or
< 1371597829 4827 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with appropriate extensions to everything
< 1371597842 298564 :itsy!~digital_w@208.222.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric
< 1371597898 408116 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man school has an intro to xenobiology, though they don't call it that
< 1371597921 426123 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, was it called "xenobiology" or "astrobiology", i forget
< 1371598450 202455 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can study astrobiology in turku
< 1371598457 241667 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm confused by what you mean though, like, modular exponentiation and exponentiation admit the same algorithms
< 1371598516 211590 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nordicastrobiology.net/Turku.shtml
< 1371598536 57263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean normal log for normal bases
< 1371598561 907092 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh forget it it was a confused point to begin with
< 1371598569 39691 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sorry
< 1371598716 406543 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe it is because modular exponentiation is just exponentiation modulo p, while discrete logarithm has nothing (presumably) to do with the logarithm of the corresponding real number
< 1371598745 990765 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i agree with you, the terms should mirror each other
< 1371598893 132911 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-196.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1371599102 389714 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://vanilla-js.com/
< 1371599274 24320 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371599305 753695 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371599318 210232 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371599377 381327 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, gunpoint made some large amount of money
< 1371599382 966366 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cool
< 1371599430 23161 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/duplicates/1gkw2j/vanilla_js_is_a_fast_lightweight_crossplatform/
< 1371599433 322757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what else is p. cool?
< 1371599440 504460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 405
< 1371599442 760508 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
< 1371599472 594564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/:/${@:+ }$@:/' bin/smlist
< 1371599476 380975 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371599483 925828 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371599893 414679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmer. humor.
< 1371599903 504993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do they have an argument about whether it should be ProgrammerHumour instead
< 1371599932 572868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProgrammeurHumeraux
< 1371599961 263019 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmer humer....sounds bad
< 1371599987 495850 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope Programmer Humour is about the humour theory of personality
< 1371599996 136652 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1371600012 58595 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like MBTI except basically t he same as MBTI
< 1371600018 848367 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dejavu.org/1995win.htm
< 1371600081 736994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I like being an INFP
< 1371600084 161512 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's the same theme as adequacy.org. makes u think
< 1371600094 979301 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well i like being melancholic!!!!!
< 1371600109 134005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myers.briggs--
< 1371600110 339313 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to be 
< 1371600115 230079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :humorous
< 1371600127 725130 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371600138 544100 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3
< 1371600185 852736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::³
< 1371600188 497895 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371600192 388314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does ":3" even mean
< 1371600202 570293 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION helps. hth

< 1371600214 654196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my mind it's like a cute innocent "what did i do" cat face
< 1371600218 765199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be using it wrong
< 1371600229 231376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lot of things
< 1371600230 287404 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i see it
< 1371600233 950735 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx fiora
< 1371600246 562587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora. Theora.
< 1371600253 796562 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks fiora
< 1371600255 85296 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, fiora. Thiora.
< 1371600258 741938 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh theora is that codec
< 1371600260 964248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371600261 183698 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION Gets the Joke

< 1371600264 797296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ogg Fiora
< 1371600267 232114 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora. H.264.
< 1371600283 648517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nanny Ogg Fiora????
< 1371600308 640378 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is everyone saying thanks? @_@
< 1371600318 208231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen Look Around You?
< 1371600319 191034 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no that's about right.  I think
< 1371600320 965856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's thanksgiving
< 1371600324 851360 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You need to see Look Around You.
< 1371600325 834706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere in the world
< 1371600340 382210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day is thanksgiving in #esoteric
< 1371600348 33906 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh geez.  that thanks thing just reminded me of this :/
< 1371600349 382264 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDajqW561KM
< 1371600358 748554 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, giving. Thiving.
< 1371600371 188047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x68y4g_look-around-you-module-2-water_fun hth
< 1371600381 392249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the calcium one
< 1371600394 594991 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the water one has the genesis of thanks in it
< 1371600421 406139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thenesis
< 1371600434 906957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: congratulations?
< 1371600450 441883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo I'm not shinji
< 1371600459 646256 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is that why everyone hates evangelion then
< 1371600472 404657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew is that dubbed in english
< 1371600474 980372 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KH2gc11XQU
< 1371600476 921615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, evangelion would be way improved by making Fiora the protagonist
< 1371600510 947444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of things would be improved by making Fiora the protagonist
< 1371600522 431130 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: good, good
< 1371600529 925024 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Macbeth
< 1371600544 111182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: did you see the super mega update btw,,,, there was a super mega update
< 1371600549 139042 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes i saw
< 1371600559 171749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see it before or after i `smlisted
< 1371600567 900140 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371600579 718093 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'd do a good job in a shakespearean tragedy <_>
< 1371600584 369035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1371600589 782456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaxpear
< 1371600619 587153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think someone's made a parody of shakespeare with shaquille o'neill
< 1371600625 938819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the QUESTION is if you saw it before i `smlisted why didn't you tell me...................
< 1371600640 546574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well if you were the protagonist it wouldn't be a tragedy hth
< 1371600682 394379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait am i mixing macbeth up with another play
< 1371600700 201370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371600700 421405 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1371600703 413533 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would we know
< 1371600711 701602 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hot potato pop is scotch, puck will make amends
< 1371600713 454424 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :macbeth is the one where macbeth kills everyone and then dies
< 1371600722 718163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoiler alert
< 1371600736 310607 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear macbeth is the one with macbeth in it
< 1371600743 820196 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the one in scotland
< 1371600743 891983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The One Where Macbeth Kills Everyone
< 1371600744 473073 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mafipulation"
< 1371600744 803904 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like 80% of his tragedies anyway let's be real
< 1371600748 684809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't macbeth in all of them
< 1371600762 886521 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should read titus andronicus
< 1371600769 671105 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinc it's gorier than a tarantino film apparently
< 1371600802 85712 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think macbeth was partly written as propaganda or something
< 1371600805 927149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do the characters stand around talking about fast food when they aren't murderkilling
< 1371600822 650010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst kind of killing
< 1371600845 32292 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well they have monologues
< 1371600852 342844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also have you seen http://www.runleiarun.com/lebowski/
< 1371600855 517509 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have puns
< 1371600866 527448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monologue and epilogue
< 1371600872 255554 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. now if only shakespeare had a foot fetish
< 1371600876 147367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE JOKE IS MONOMORPHISM AND EPIMORPHISM HTH
< 1371600884 322171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: awesome
< 1371600901 539636 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I've actually played um.  about two games where the protagonist is vaguely fiora-like?  or at least kind of felt that way
< 1371600906 299019 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i came so close to googling shakespeare fetish
< 1371600914 268502 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't he have a thing for older women though
< 1371600929 832944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Or maybe you became those-games'-protagonists-like
< 1371600939 93373 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems likely.
< 1371600939 421102 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fioroid
< 1371600953 689530 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i know jack shit about shakespeare's performance. someone call an english major
< 1371600968 569245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: anyway lots of games are all about identifying with the protagonists and wish fulfillment and "all that jazz"
< 1371600980 149708 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would an english major be doing on freenode
< 1371600995 202819 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they were games with like, well-defined characters
< 1371600996 910074 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being driven out by horrible nerds, imo
< 1371600998 60423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to blankslateish ones
< 1371601000 437098 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: so what were the games
< 1371601007 279333 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they
< 1371601009 605424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: atelier ayesha and atelier totori, surppriiiseee
< 1371601009 925405 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanese
< 1371601025 58070 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking
< 1371601033 780238 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, why are they both named after the french for workshop
< 1371601034 248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only spent like literally weeks fangirling or something
< 1371601044 94646 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they're about alchemists.
< 1371601047 310788 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atelier is a series where you play as an alchemist
< 1371601049 509886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "atelier" is used in english sometimes!!!
< 1371601073 66505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could identify really identify with pac-man
< 1371601080 977071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of character depth there imo hth
< 1371601097 988363 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only characcters i identify with are terrible people
< 1371601098 935180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/identify //
< 1371601102 760693 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe is hould play games with princesses
< 1371601113 78387 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :play atelier meruru! the protagonist is a princess
< 1371601123 866627 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly pacman is representative of the human condition
< 1371601141 237966 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never know if i'm identifying with characters or broad stereotypes
< 1371601142 833659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
< 1371601148 177432 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the traumatic personal influence of sheldon
< 1371601175 810468 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be clinging to "characters who are vaguely similar" since I have so few options anyways :/
< 1371601179 485051 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! at orientation i saw a guy with a "Bazinga!" t-shirt.
< 1371601180 502375 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi
< 1371601187 992682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also do you know the reason it was renamed from "Puck-Man" for US release was because they realized every machine would immediately be vandalized to say "Fuck-Man"
< 1371601203 527896 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, was he named after pück
< 1371601262 666072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If [[Pac-Man]] had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in [[rave|dark rooms]], munching [[MDMA|pills]] and listening to [[Electronic dance music|repetitive electronic music]]."
< 1371601274 22130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i enjoy Wikipedia's "explain the joke" role
< 1371601296 192949 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bless you wikipedia
< 1371601302 761025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :|{protagonists who are girls}| is small, |{protagonists who are girls}∩{protagonists who are quieter, shy, and/or less assertive}| is smaller
< 1371601308 176998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :blikipedia
< 1371601326 315501 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good use of set notation.
< 1371601332 90853 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am such a dork :/
< 1371601343 340426 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah i was gonna say (re: "were they japanese") that you're not exactly Faith (nb. have not played mirror's edge)
< 1371601365 847905 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should totally play mirror's edge though
< 1371601372 515354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually like have it on steam from a summer sale for like a dollar or three
< 1371601374 814882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I still haven't played it
< 1371601379 691392 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371601382 270453 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's apparently `not that good' but it might be fun
< 1371601383 939759 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Radiant Historia is fun
< 1371601398 74440 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do want to try the idea though, i love running around games
< 1371601416 207746 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never heard anything bad about mirror's edge really :/
< 1371601421 553686 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think opinion on it is kind of split?  I've heard a lot of people kind of loved it
< 1371601470 671536 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while others were like oh no it's not about shooting people!!! and you have to be a ~girl~ and they have cooties gosh no
< 1371601470 938629 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have moved in different circles of criticism
< 1371601482 392958 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe
< 1371601482 502705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hadn't read the version of Two Gentlemen of Lebowski that has footnotes explaining the "shakespearean" language
< 1371601484 712105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe I am being a bit too unfair <.<
< 1371601485 544129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most excellent
< 1371601489 993893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played Mirror's Edge
< 1371601490 936916 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: awesome
< 1371601499 905211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's worth a dollar or three for sure
< 1371601503 307331 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the errant signal guy was pretty critical of the crowbarred shooting and i read this complete evisceration of the plot once
< 1371601519 242769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't finish it but i had some fun
< 1371601519 566114 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the plot like, shiny 1984
< 1371601522 721814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can cause motion sickness
< 1371601526 27848 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully for 2 they'll be given more creative control
< 1371601540 969520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's set in some kind of ultra-clean dystopian police state
< 1371601544 201668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like singapore lololol
< 1371601551 418697 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if mirror's edge 2 is more about the arab spring mode of protest that would be kinda cool
< 1371601554 350029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~topical~
< 1371601614 994701 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that it's not very obviously dystopian though
< 1371601623 797090 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was one of the things the guy did not like
< 1371601636 118049 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that like, the point of an ultra clean police state
< 1371601657 17417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a flimsy plot doomed a game to be "eviscerated" I would expect like, every reviewer ever to eviscerate call of duty or something
< 1371601658 189323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think by chapter 2 or 3 the politicians are framing your friend for murder
< 1371601658 776868 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371601667 55138 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i just linked to the thing
< 1371601672 456030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember exactly but uh, it seemed pretty obviously dystopian to me
< 1371601687 694565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole conceit is that these badass parkour couriers exist because electronic communications are all tapped
< 1371601690 785687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought
< 1371601691 223227 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chocolatehammer.org/?p=750 <- "the thing"
< 1371601695 936477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, buy it, play it, don't puke
< 1371601708 537883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's vastly more important that Phantom_Hoover buy System Shock 2
< 1371601709 126007 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is kind of why I don't like game reviewers much, I kind of feel like they come up with an opinion of a game, and then create lots of justifications for why they didn't like it or liked it, after the fact)
< 1371601714 566529 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: call of duty's plot is hilarious though
< 1371601720 956881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yep! i feel that way about most reviews of things actually
< 1371601725 670238 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so much deeper than "russia invades so we can reenact the cold war"
< 1371601733 588344 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the whole "~rationality~" thing of like
< 1371601733 954711 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by deeper i mean lol
< 1371601739 802918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: like every review of Season 4 of Community has to talk at length about how the show is Not The Same after Dan Harmon left
< 1371601739 874425 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a review but w/e
< 1371601743 16054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am rational, so I use rationality and logic to justify my arbitrary personal feelings
< 1371601743 824453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't
< 1371601756 336007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also it seems like they were going to say that no matter what
< 1371601760 632749 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Did that seem confusing or vague? It did?" er not really
< 1371601768 969274 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading good reviews of things you like is great though!
< 1371601781 235880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And come to think of it, does the government really have such a tight grip on everything that rebels can only communicate by snail mail transported by Cirque du Soleil? I mean, I’m no tech expert, but I’m pretty sure there’s some type of electronic communication that can’t be easily intercepted." i um
< 1371601786 706017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmmm
< 1371601789 882672 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1371601794 427497 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume he means crypto
< 1371601796 216373 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I still like.  gosh, the parody xbox one presentation by that australian dude
< 1371601826 598023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: man you live in a country where the police can arrest you for not giving up your keys :/
< 1371601829 525612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the what?
< 1371601840 932686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i assume they can do that in most countries, with a valid subpoena
< 1371601843 118428 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KOxdMQhDMIU#t=2m45s
< 1371601847 902793 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just that 5 seconds)
< 1371601856 305303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also HOLA NSA
< 1371601873 137602 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, that guy
< 1371601873 398979 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola kmc
< 1371601874 953460 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't english
< 1371601888 8628 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she said australian!
< 1371601889 827281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_political_jokes yesterday
< 1371601896 916069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some really fucking funny ones
< 1371601898 362034 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1371601899 58373 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my headcanon is that this is actually how everyone in the world sees american shooter game type things
< 1371601901 706076 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not australian
< 1371601905 181178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371601918 954368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :headcannon
< 1371601927 522868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  he's not? darnit <.<
< 1371601945 985641 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000
< 1371601949 688585 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd almost forgotten about the english/australian confusion
< 1371601951 716799 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they need warrants for a lot of it
< 1371601972 518557 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't live in the UK or know about it really.
< 1371601976 689616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: russian jokes own.
< 1371601999 358369 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also recently i realised i can tell between australian and new zealand accents
< 1371602001 525081 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was good
< 1371602012 833592 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh lol that.
< 1371602014 887282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too although i don't know if i can tell 'real' ones or just stereotyped ones
< 1371602015 106383 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogs
< 1371602025 575946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"america's in trouble!  and... guns."
< 1371602027 407293 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogues
< 1371602043 800671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I learned today that "to squizz" is .au english for "to look at / read / examine"
< 1371602051 372717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something much more gross to me
< 1371602078 50347 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do those australians do it
< 1371602082 941149 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The principle of socialist economy of the period of transition to communism: the authorities pretend they are paying wages, workers pretend they are working. Alternately, "So long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work." This joke persisted essentially unchanged through the 1980s.» ok well that's depressing
< 1371602083 49716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :upside down
< 1371602100 329537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :communism: zero failure modes
< 1371602136 655452 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No my friend, we will not live long enough to see communism, but our children... poor children"
< 1371602158 480267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how do I tell the difference between english and australian accents ._.   and what about the english in australia and australians and england and agh
< 1371602170 518121 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg this one
< 1371602172 8754 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Communism was a humour-producing machine. Its economic theories and system of repression created inherently funny situations. There were jokes under fascism and the Nazis too, but those systems did not create an absurd, laugh-a-minute reality like communism."
< 1371602181 413860 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three men sit in a jail in (KGB headquarters) Dzerzhinsky Square. The first asks the second why he has been imprisoned, and he says, "Because I criticized Karl Radek." The first man responds, "But I am here because I spoke out in favor of Radek!" They turn to the third man who has been sitting quietly in the back, and ask him why he is in jail too. He responds, "I'm Karl Radek."
< 1371602202 308888 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, 'they sound different' i guess? i dunno
< 1371602224 405706 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternate between british comedies and something australian i guess
< 1371602276 321384 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1371602306 691016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://danbooru.donmai.us/data/sample/sample-3d41a11efe619c8899f6594ce6ab2242.jpg    ooooh so that's the one this was referencing.  I get it now
< 1371602318 8176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this just reminds me that i know people who say 30s USSR was fantastic, blergh
< 1371602329 691140 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: lol
< 1371602345 170877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: wasn't that a parody of maoist PRC?
< 1371602365 529591 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a two-part comic, the first part was the soviet union
< 1371602370 484978 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second part was maoist PRC
< 1371602371 583431 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good
< 1371602388 763137 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 1953 was stalin's death
< 1371602419 476324 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371602452 289280 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i have now lost my familiarity with scottish accents
< 1371602489 501956 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you scottish
< 1371602530 499326 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i go to university in england
< 1371602531 409732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unrelatedly i'm watching a boardsofcanada promotional video that seems to be entirely static
< 1371602600 546575 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's the same as the albums
< 1371602609 238410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :30s USSR was probably pretty good if you're an urban industrial worker and not being arbitrarily purged by stalin
< 1371602647 173153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess. i'm guessing these jokes were popular, though...
< 1371602653 887764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371602718 30277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Jokes about Khrushchev are often related to his attempts to reform the economy, especially to introduce maize. He was even called kukuruznik (maizeman)" it's weird how corn wasn't a thing in the old world, man
< 1371602762 682599 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are cornflakes actually made with corn
< 1371602768 821804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how many european countries are associated with a national cuisine that couldn't exist in the pre-columbian era
< 1371602777 324248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomatoes in italy, potatoes in ireland
< 1371602785 277282 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee too, right?
< 1371602786 172559 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_20_years it's great how this sounds exactly like transhumanism
< 1371602788 976833 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chocolate definitely.
< 1371602794 553060 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1371602797 917039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :communism in 20 years, fusion power in 30
< 1371602801 421649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: according to my book on burma corn got so popular so fast that it is and was considered native
< 1371602817 232755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't have tobacco in old europe either
< 1371602819 129061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371602835 446160 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A follower of Sylvester Graham, the inventor of graham crackers and graham bread, Kellogg believed that spicy or sweet foods would increase passions." the invention of cornflakes
< 1371602836 343856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: meaning what
< 1371602842 199036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fuck that guy
< 1371602865 174089 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: meaning if you asked a burmese farmer where corn came from they'd probably say their ancestors had been farming it for millenia.
< 1371602865 315987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chute_tobacco.JPG tbh not sure what this guy is smoking is tobacco
< 1371602868 846194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha
< 1371602869 181070 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371602887 478350 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how traditions are so often untraditional~
< 1371602901 308138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :corn is pretty cool. if you've invented nixtamalization i guess
< 1371602907 563258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how the fuck did people come up with stuff like that
< 1371602920 229277 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude have you seen the grain corn evolved from?
< 1371602923 694793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's mix some lye and ash into this food and see if it becomes better
< 1371602924 698787 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know how people came up with corn
< 1371602925 940908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan bro
< 1371602929 246123 :loleilo22!~root@224.Red-81-33-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371602929 794477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which one is that
< 1371602934 203336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :teosinte
< 1371602945 366618 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Teosinte_Jalisco.jpg look at this shit!
< 1371602948 444619 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes, let's farm this"
< 1371602963 673798 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371602973 692931 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying there was a fucking crazy mesoamerican agriculturalist back in the day
< 1371602975 495221 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much of guns germs and steel is bullshit
< 1371602987 906662 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of it
< 1371602988 561135 :loleilo22!~root@224.Red-81-33-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net PART :#esoteric
< 1371603023 291770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Corncobs.jpg pretty
< 1371603035 646725 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i haven't read it but) from what i understand anthropologists usually consider it to overemphasize geography (because, written by geographer) and they largely don't like geographic determinism, though they do think geography is important obviously
< 1371603061 996853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iirc his numbers on spread of different crops are basically pulled out of his ass.
< 1371603093 444413 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, each kernel is actually fertilised individually so you can actually use cobs as really neat demonstrations of mendelevian genetics
< 1371603099 359094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really
< 1371603100 544038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1371603122 156625 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are even two sets of really obvious dominant/recessive traits
< 1371603138 228773 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time my parents accidentally crossed edible corn and indian corn
< 1371603146 189110 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good demonstration of plant breeding (none of the result was edible)
< 1371603165 179065 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371603176 417542 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are your parents... farmers?
< 1371603178 733888 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371603197 571798 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wannabes
< 1371603209 25835 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just a backyard garden
< 1371603231 397902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371603234 600605 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lightweights
< 1371603243 724440 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are american farmers all the american version of posh?)
< 1371603264 63944 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371603265 418742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lived down the street from the Pioneer Hybrid experimental corn farm
< 1371603293 174193 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's lots of kind of american farming, there's industrial farming and there's my neighbors, you know?
< 1371603303 249256 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't describe either as posh
< 1371603331 989788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in new hampshire and vermont it seemed like a lot of people had basically a suburban house with a small farm, near other suburban houses
< 1371603333 718048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you be posh if you know how to operate and repair combine harvesters
< 1371603341 550599 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371603351 400941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bigger and more farm-shaped than what you would call a 'backyard garden' and they had some livestock too
< 1371603357 233154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not enough to live from solely
< 1371603369 526639 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only tory area in scotland is the one with lots of farmers and not much else
< 1371603386 465887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could buy eggs at the store and they would have a handwritten label saying whose chickens they came from and you could go there and say hi to the chickens probably
< 1371603426 862464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas I grew up near a bunch of big industrial farms with buildings very far apart that can only be worked by expensive machines
< 1371603448 410083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the industrial pig lots
< 1371603450 844365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :smell fucking awful
< 1371603488 893987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui pigs aren't really inherently dirty, but they aren't picky either
< 1371603515 66811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i eat eggs from chickens that live in my backyard. am i posh
< 1371603520 811990 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371603524 58589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. cool
< 1371603525 633605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many do you have
< 1371603527 940150 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a middle-class thing, for sure
< 1371603539 997644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a middle class thing and also a yuppie thing
< 1371603542 239860 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :six
< 1371603546 500317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do they lay
< 1371603559 704047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used to all lay once a day but they don't any more
< 1371603562 720752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're gonna slaughter 'em soon
< 1371603564 655083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371603581 476418 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hatch an egg from each of them!!
< 1371603590 902807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to grow oyster mushrooms at the new place, not any chickens though probably
< 1371603595 44709 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«A frightened man came to the KGB. "My talking parrot disappeared." "This is not our case. Go to the criminal police." "Excuse me. Of course I know that I have to go to them. I am here just to tell you officially that I disagree with that parrot."»
< 1371603596 284898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a rooster for that PH
< 1371603600 307393 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: roosters are the actual worst though
< 1371603623 915655 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a biologist! work something out!
< 1371603651 212676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't have a rooster in a (sub)urban area
< 1371603679 800030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My wife has been going to cooking school for three years." / "She must really cook well by now!" / "No, they've only reached the part about the Twentieth CPSU Congress so far."
< 1371603688 458033 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not suburban, we just don't want to deal with roosters >_>
< 1371603698 129703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the neighbors' are already annoying enough
< 1371603699 347645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far is the nearest other house
< 1371603701 109282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371603705 101382 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you... live in the country
< 1371603708 927337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do
< 1371603724 11890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you're in WA, are you going to start growing cannabis
< 1371603728 651316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the climate there support it
< 1371603738 104465 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know where cannabis grows actually
< 1371603743 590483 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the climate here is basically: wet
< 1371603748 735799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a video about how to grow weed indoor; it seems like a pretty fun project; I kind of wish I'd done it when I was in college and the risks were minimal
< 1371603816 722273 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeltsin's aide approaches him and says, "Mister President, two guests are here to see you: the Pope, and the director of the International Monetary Fund. Who shall I show in first?" Yeltsin thinks for a moment, then says: "Show in the Pope; at least I only have to kiss his ring."
< 1371603845 102559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike, these are terrible
< 1371603857 835987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo like awesome
< 1371603883 672274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you can grow pot in WA i'm pretty sure
< 1371603890 931250 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think the main obstacle to growing weed right now is that the licensing system isn't implemented yet
< 1371603895 589364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of it is grown in norcal (it's 1/3 of the economy in mendocino county)
< 1371603904 80217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, main legal obstacle
< 1371603905 220658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the #1 cash crop statewide
< 1371603913 448000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nwpr.org/post/indoor-marijuana-grows-could-hamper-seattles-climate-change-goals
< 1371603915 659209 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. why did i even ask about the climate? they already grow tons of weed up the road
< 1371603955 197819 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's like the most seattle thing i've ever seen.
< 1371603964 234160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :says outdoor grows are easier east of the cascades
< 1371603975 539797 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :east of the cascades is basically all farms, so
< 1371604021 650906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's near-desert, the contrast with the west here is kinda neat.
< 1371604089 888813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371604173 132888 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the school i'm going to is in the east too, it's farm school as fuck
< 1371604312 578247 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get there i took this road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_Route_26 which had like three towns in seventy miles, which i took mostly at 100 mph
< 1371604575 306117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicu
< 1371604577 566793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice*
< 1371604614 187717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://labs.spotify.com/2013/06/18/creative-usernames/
< 1371604845 870457 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8but do they support SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW?
< 1371604961 19123 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's a nasty attack
< 1371605001 449298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371605036 920317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you read the hunting of the snark
< 1371605038 702074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371605041 898168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371605050 623500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you even reliably fold case across languages
< 1371605053 38908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i paste 12 lines of it in here........................ y/n
< 1371605056 680336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems lie it might be intractable
< 1371605058 167480 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n
< 1371605066 689985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y not
< 1371605076 592402 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, turkish, for one
< 1371605077 28913 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that;s a lot of lines
< 1371605119 294859 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Case_folding#Turkish_i.2FI_etc. that doesn't seem hard
< 1371605134 101077 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this is called "normalization", oops
< 1371605222 603811 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like the least hassle would just be having people pick an account and display name separately and make the account name publicly accessible
< 1371605227 366874 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that paper i read on burmese unicode involved things like using zero-width spaces to mark syllable boundaries... optionally
< 1371605242 555946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: and the account name has to be ascii?
< 1371605254 494952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what twitter does i guess
< 1371605259 197877 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371605286 30743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what kind of awesome username he would pick on a site that forced Cyrillic usernames

< 1371605286 465913 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ideal but it does work
< 1371605296 468118 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :give everyone a meaningless ID number, and then have a displayed name?
< 1371605308 202701 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i call "Кракозя́бры"
< 1371605316 750064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but when you log in you need to provide some ID
< 1371605324 890380 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371605324 998612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah
< 1371605336 25172 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make people remember the number ("but that sucks" "so does everything")
< 1371605350 681267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13/13-h/13-h.htm hth
< 1371605355 488226 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, that's what AW does... not for a particularly good reason though, Unicode names weren't supported until 5.0
< 1371605355 774126 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for people who just flat out don't know ascii you could have a 'create random name' button and tell them to remember it
< 1371605402 901669 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so same as mine.
< 1371605402 973779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: shitty UX
< 1371605402 973991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UX?
< 1371605405 757299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :user xperience
< 1371605413 567594 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw :(
< 1371605425 927425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had bought a large map representing the sea, / Without the least vestige of land: / And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be / A map they could all understand. "What's the good of Mercator's North Poles and Equators, / Tropics, Zones, and Meridian Lines?" / So the Bellman would cry: and the crew would reply / "They are merely conventional signs!
< 1371605427 846052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry but consumer apps will always choose the pleasant UX over the move that theoretically makes certain security holes go away
< 1371605430 337272 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, i already have my SSN and uni ID# memorized, why not pile more onto that
< 1371605431 33151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Other mps are such shapes, with teheir islands and capes! / But we've got our brave Captain to thank:" / (So the crew would protest) "that he's bought us the best— / A perfect and absolute blank!"
< 1371605434 936645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371605441 953271 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and my phone number i guess
< 1371605445 160225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i hate everything.
< 1371605446 109171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :two lines got merged into one line "sry"
< 1371605450 25522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by lines i mean verses
< 1371605474 738620 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are there keyboards without ascii readily accessible on them?)
< 1371605482 234265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole of ascii?
< 1371605486 209736 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't type control characters
< 1371605490 220895 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371605490 851189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, yes you can.
< 1371605496 463583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what the Control key is for.
< 1371605497 82177 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started saying ascii instead of latin a while back
< 1371605506 661640 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i've kind of committed
< 1371605516 879322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ban Phantom_Hoover hth
< 1371605519 27572 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371605527 952367 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help why
< 1371605535 737542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 'latin' could include a lot of diacritis and stuff
< 1371605540 295481 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371605541 553105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just all of ISO-8859-1
< 1371605547 935460 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'english' :P
< 1371605562 61775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but yeah if you have a turkish keyboard or whatever and you don't need "c" it's not gonna be obviously there
< 1371605563 863394 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc. if you're going to be a pedant that still includes non-ascii characters
< 1371605611 252249 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think japanese keyboards maybe usually only allow fullwidth input i dunno
< 1371605636 571324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have a 40 bit WEP key from 2005 memorized
< 1371605650 462086 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:800px-KB_Thai_Kedmanee.png
< 1371605651 67449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have a list of words from third grade memorized.
< 1371605653 707599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We all memorized them!
< 1371605668 70389 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, not even arabic numbers
< 1371605684 9265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this problem would be better attacked by psychologists...
< 1371605696 24297 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have them figure out what can be (a) easily typed (b) easily remembered (c) not easily guessed?
< 1371605712 710168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :binyan chevel matos orev falafel bateriyot kfitz dam nechashim chol maghetz prachim shvil yeled savta
< 1371605719 649195 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you not want it guessed...
< 1371605727 514059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet every classmate I had in third grade remembers that list.
< 1371605732 14790 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's for passwords since that's what i was complaining about earlier.
< 1371605741 246059 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371605747 533503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, on that note. I got my password reset! I called in and recited my ID# and birthdate.
< 1371605750 543479 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. secure
< 1371605767 175873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do unicode passwords end up being messy? i mean i can't see there being any problems)
< 1371605781 497030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEP is so bad
< 1371605796 960142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there's a lot of potential for false negatives on the password check
< 1371605799 152254 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is WEP the one that's super easily crackable
< 1371605806 913683 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always get it confused with WPA
< 1371605812 674100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to normalize to prevent that
< 1371605822 738777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and users might still include invisible characters by mistake
< 1371605829 294102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah it's the one
< 1371605837 46456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they used RC4 with a 24 bit IV
< 1371605840 458145 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i'm working on the assumption that people probably aren't going to use crazy alternate glyphs for their own passwords
< 1371605843 969664 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371605845 38536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For a 24-bit IV, there is a 50% probability the same IV will repeat after 5000 packets."
< 1371605852 248568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they might use different computers and different input modes though
< 1371605856 511073 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that was pretty great.
< 1371605858 203807 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371605864 684347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.2 * sqrt (2^24)
< 1371605866 34694 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4915.2
< 1371605867 145315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg it works
< 1371605871 421769 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much scope for difference is there with input modes
< 1371605874 524886 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, in ISO 8859-1 the letter 'ç' can only be represented as the single character E7 'ç', but in a Unicode encoding it can be represented as the single character U+00E7 'ç' or the sequence U+0063 'c' U+0327 '¸'. In HTML it could be additionally represented as ç or ç or ç (five equivalent representations in total).
< 1371605883 487660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is in the web report on normalization; seems like a pretty good example
< 1371605888 264063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371605897 436352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that 1.2 * sqrt n thing p. great
< 1371605899 52707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo yes
< 1371605912 290091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 1.2?
< 1371605914 289364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1371605915 476159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i "h8 apprxmtions"
< 1371605918 118775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a fake logarithm
< 1371605923 637794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt (2^24)
< 1371605924 713903 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4096.0
< 1371605936 925887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.2 * sqrt 365
< 1371605937 954800 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  22.925967809451357
< 1371605953 417299 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is unicode so fond of alternate glyphs anyway
< 1371605955 240194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the birthday probability thing for a 50% chance of collision when there are N days.
< 1371605964 42431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: round trip compatibility with legacy encodings
< 1371605990 657570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this design goal is perhaps regrettable, but it's very useful sometimes
< 1371605999 178068 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it useful for
< 1371606004 7431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the exact derivation...
< 1371606004 464956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example it means your programming language can have a single type for "text", and only think about encodings on input and output
< 1371606010 835942 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371606022 854248 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more useful than computer manipulation of some characters being ridiculously fiddly?
< 1371606040 888913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to (say) ruby where the bytes making up a string are observable, and the encoding is stored as metadata that can be inaccurate
< 1371606063 738543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby 1.9 is much better than 1.8 about things.
< 1371606077 421241 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure you could handle "text" generically in any way that isn't fiddly as hell
< 1371606084 982325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't the cool kids using 2.0 now
< 1371606097 582507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Ruby do the dumb thing and kill call/cc yet?
< 1371606105 455147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I have to imagine you would need some notion of normalization even without the legacy encoding design goal
< 1371606112 51500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example what about the order in which combining chars are applied
< 1371606121 739665 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh that was in the burma thing too.
< 1371606130 936491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby killed callcc and then brought it back,
< 1371606132 730670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$/./
< 1371606135 992612 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the normalization scheme involved the pagelong regex i mentioned eariler.
< 1371606151 693218 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good scheme"
< 1371606250 998718 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an EBCDIC style sheet being directly applied to an ASCII document, or a font specification in a Shift_JIS style sheet directly used on a system that maintains font names in UTF-16" the horror......
< 1371606292 868484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the hacks where XSS sanitization becomes ineffective if you convince the user to switch their browser to Shift-JIS
< 1371606305 544870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if an attacker does, I mean
< 1371606342 189303 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we considered, like, abandoning the concept of writing
< 1371606344 192405 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for security reasons
< 1371606375 321179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the stripe ctf thing where we had different solutions
< 1371606395 748174 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can just communicate with hand gestures and grunting
< 1371606398 417167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine was embedding  inside some json text
< 1371606421 114361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember your solution
< 1371606434 356540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was your solution the fact that there was a bug in the ctf and it just gave you a cookie with secret information
< 1371606443 213158 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, no
< 1371606451 311109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should consider it.
< 1371606456 186351 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :attackers might punch people
< 1371606462 446630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my solution shachaf
< 1371606477 583302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know about the  trick at the time
< 1371606479 439029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good solution
< 1371606485 452693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you solved three levels that way right
< 1371606493 1846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so
< 1371606498 471030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371606502 112733 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we have robust security protocols for dealing with that though! (shooting them)
< 1371606503 573945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was the only one where I didn't get the "right" solution
< 1371606503 791941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they mentioned that three levels had that bug
< 1371606507 718519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1371606510 630555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. powerful attack imo
< 1371606516 698033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super effective
< 1371606530 295044 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if "..." -> "…" could count as normalization
< 1371606533 759737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you identify with the main character in unicode
< 1371606539 798409 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, attackers might goad users into punching them
< 1371606551 649261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you identify with the main character in main is usually a function
< 1371606560 158827 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: entrapment!!
< 1371606586 590015 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc you're all about mushrooms right
< 1371606591 112401 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you make booze with them
< 1371606608 427640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Menlo Park, CA, United States	 06/18/2013	 6:27 A.M.	Out For Delivery
< 1371606616 202298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are my books..........did they die
< 1371606647 547711 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«In some of the following examples, '¸' is used to depict the character U+0327 combining cedilla, for the purposes of illustration. Had a real U+0327 been used instead of this spacing (non-combining) variant, some browsers might combine it with a preceding 'c', resulting in a display indistinguishable from a U+00E7 'ç' and a loss of understandability of the examples. In addition, if the sequence c + combining cedilla were present, ...
< 1371606653 571573 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... this document would not be include-normalized.» help
< 1371606656 90696 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what books
< 1371606671 393291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fictional books
< 1371606677 407931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're full of things that never actually happened
< 1371606701 546250 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371606714 18050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're double-fictional
< 1371606725 284032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you switch to tmux yet?
< 1371606891 769607 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371607040 669274 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bitpremier.com/items/view/37
< 1371607107 476230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i switched, now i've switched back to screen mostly
< 1371607111 530259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because screen stopped segfaulting
< 1371607132 563246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i don't know about that
< 1371607136 578278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will ask a friend one sec
< 1371607155 133269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but what about 1D74F   MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC PARTIAL DIFFERENTIAL     [𝝏]
< 1371607176 728593 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the protein content makes them useless for it
< 1371607183 912345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1D7C7   MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC PHI SYMBOL     [𝟇]
< 1371607196 593321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1D7A5   MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL PHI     [𝞥]
< 1371607201 805466 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god.
< 1371607202 154370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good codepoints
< 1371607210 975262 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you wrought, unicode.
< 1371607215 649699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay my books
< 1371607217 254532 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it not CAPITAL PHI SYMBOL
< 1371607219 222575 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many questions
< 1371607278 826214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh
< 1371607280 444056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: she thinks it's unlikely
< 1371607289 91752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who stick those stickers on the backs of books.....................
< 1371607311 453127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushrooms don't contain much carbohydrates and when they do, it's usually something like trehalose that generally can't be digested
< 1371607316 537968 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you in CA now?
< 1371607325 186947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: not yet; leaving next thursday
< 1371607325 769288 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, damn
< 1371607330 731647 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortress is ruined now
< 1371607342 160651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened in df
< 1371607356 675355 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone posted a huge thing about it in the subreddit?
< 1371607368 5277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: You should come visit!
< 1371607370 95202 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: already have a job or gonna look for one there?
< 1371607372 172851 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the worst
< 1371607372 667343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like they are sometimes used as additives in beer
< 1371607373 591803 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how that ruins it, but hey
< 1371607378 493680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I'm going to be working at Mozilla
< 1371607380 913830 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'd love to :P competing interests
< 1371607383 326037 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, forgot
< 1371607383 478543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on Servo, the new browser written in Rust
< 1371607388 101001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be fun times
< 1371607393 17176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new browser huh
< 1371607394 734413 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool :)
< 1371607398 137266 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :excitin
< 1371607402 670392 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part will you be working on, do you know
< 1371607417 431745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, well, it's just a new rendering engine for now, and they've just progressed to the point where you can, like, click on links
< 1371607420 431408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's still early days
< 1371607420 795266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it big enough that people are working on "parts"
< 1371607435 836068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they are pretty serious about it eventually being a real thing
< 1371607451 916323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I'm like the second or third full time paid employee working on Servo specifically
< 1371607456 956186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the dev to date has been done by the Rust team
< 1371607464 481322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's all open source so they have various others contributing
< 1371607472 655671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of people at Samsung are contributing to Rust and Servo now
< 1371607481 75792 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolrust
< 1371607492 148355 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does kmc have +v
< 1371607500 238849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seized it in a bloodless coup
< 1371607506 455050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all stranglings)
< 1371607511 194740 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like this is unhfairly discriminating against mutes
< 1371607518 798527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what do you think of rust
< 1371607529 725618 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it needs to actually be thought about
< 1371607532 632270 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just built
< 1371607612 551717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mozilla seems like a fantastic place to work
< 1371607636 536463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they pay... quite well, especially for being a non-profit
< 1371607721 773847 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1371607725 859330 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg monies
< 1371607750 403722 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what funds them?
< 1371607761 773296 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the google mafia
< 1371607795 566087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google pays them mad cash to have google be the default search engine in firefox
< 1371607806 337553 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon capitalism will be replaced by the "get google to pay you" economy
< 1371607808 274973 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371607810 858101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yes
< 1371607819 115639 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's it?
< 1371607823 946622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's most of their revenue yeah
< 1371607826 776607 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit
< 1371607833 110407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have similar partnerships with other search engines in other countries
< 1371607835 341542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know right?
< 1371607836 912676 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't they employ hundreds of devs?
< 1371607853 776371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On 20 December 2011 Mozilla announced that the contract was once again renewed for at least three years to November 2014, at three times the amount previously paid, or nearly US$300 million annually.[11][12] Approximately 85% of Mozilla’s revenue for 2006 was derived from this contract.
< 1371607859 61396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in their recent deal with google they got 3x the previous rate, thanks to a bidding war between google and msft
< 1371607860 592993 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371607866 709640 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's crazy
< 1371607868 629823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they have over 600 employees total
< 1371607871 990334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like a dozen really nice offices
< 1371607873 407937 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally stable business model, there
< 1371607885 510745 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind blown :)
< 1371607898 940842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the current contract is locked in until november 2014
< 1371607903 622954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they think that if google stops paying, they can get other companies easily
< 1371607908 787255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless FF market share takes a nosedive of course
< 1371607912 229698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they care a lot about that ;P
< 1371607916 322455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does opera make any money that way
< 1371607918 716930 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see why google's putting a lot of weight behind chrome :)
< 1371607929 650190 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's google get its revenue anyway. is it ads like seems obvious or do they sacrifice children or what
< 1371607933 994045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly ads
< 1371607943 629088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so they say... could be laundering money from child sacrifices
< 1371607989 420721 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pay good money to watch gruesome child-death
< 1371608002 902988 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't y'all?
< 1371608003 660342 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Royale
< 1371608020 223797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google's whole business model is about providing services to get more people on the web, and giving stuff away for free so that nobody else can charge for it
< 1371608021 100013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: no more than five dola
< 1371608033 499507 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they are the best at ads
< 1371608040 745854 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds really cynical when you put it that way
< 1371608046 385446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't care if you use gmail or some other webmail that also serves google ads ;P
< 1371608056 418701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: *shrug* google gotta get paid
< 1371608063 56356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't fault them for being a for profit company
< 1371608072 727816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's not surprising, i just hadn't thought of it that way
< 1371608111 654710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why they made Android; Apple was on the way to a smartphone monopoly, and if they had that monopoly they could start to undermine Google's whole deal
< 1371608119 680202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the Apple model is about paying for content in a walled garden
< 1371608147 909685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if Apple had such a monopoly they could chip away at the very idea that search and maps etc. should be ubiquitous free services
< 1371608181 304012 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if a company comes around with a model based on ads being a free service
< 1371608185 766893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!
< 1371608191 770031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡¡¡
< 1371608196 764670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doom
< 1371608196 990901 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES
< 1371608199 422360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371608220 365146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Petronius the Arbiter is a good name for a cat.
< 1371608302 747180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :While still a kitten, all fluff and buzzes, Pete had worked out a simple philosophy. I was in charge of quarters, rations, and weather; he was in charge of everything else. But he held me especially responsible for weather. Connecticut winters are good only for Christmas cards; regularly that winter Pete would check his own door, refuse to go out it because of that unpleasant white stuff beyond it (he was no fool), then badger me to open a ...
< 1371608308 739851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... people door.
< 1371608311 252045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had a fixed conviction that at least one of them must lead into summer weather. Each time this meant that I had to go around with him to each of eleven doors, hold it open while he satisfied himself that it was winter out that way, too, then go on to the next door, while his criticisms of my mismanagement grew more bitter with each disappointment.
< 1371608354 919408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  doom   YES   oh no
< 1371608358 685559 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1054)  doom   YES   oh no
< 1371608475 460319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha Google Royale
< 1371608490 887954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me I should watch The Internship, that terrible movie / 2 hour ad for Google that came out recently
< 1371608496 987151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol really
< 1371608521 196544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered all the alternatives you have to watching it
< 1371608524 120440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as not watching it
< 1371608544 900526 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it about
< 1371608551 752703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond "an internship" i guess
< 1371608555 174988 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... is google royale
< 1371608589 272902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about two old guys who have to compete with a bunch of Kids These Days for an internship at google
< 1371608590 550368 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun on Battle Royale
< 1371608600 882769 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that
< 1371608602 886574 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a japanese movie about kids killing each other
< 1371608605 679753 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the opposite of a pun
< 1371608614 478826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom is the opposite of a pun
< 1371608907 253357 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do there, in fact, exist programmers that know what they're doing?
< 1371608907 883214 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just realized that STEM means basically nothing. how do i deal with this
< 1371608914 717542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows what they're doing
< 1371608917 295636 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people don't know things
< 1371608919 740643 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :folk psychology
< 1371608924 82517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what i'm doing
< 1371608929 826399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also so do most people, roughly
< 1371608944 632191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two sides of the debate
< 1371608951 385751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth is in the middle
< 1371608954 960411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously
< 1371608979 143907 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no the truth is obviously to one side
< 1371608983 779121 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(try applying your doctrine now, hah)
< 1371609007 847707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth is in the 1/4 or 3/4 position
< 1371609019 992135 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The truth has an asymtotic curve towards one side.
< 1371609082 407439 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371609092 192716 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't make sense Sgeo
< 1371609103 433688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth doesn't make sense
< 1371609114 877755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't handle the truth
< 1371609117 983875 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't make snes
< 1371609144 515445 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truth is center, truth is a side, truth is somewhere between those two except it's to one side, so let's go between those except it's to a side, so...
< 1371609160 615137 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a song lyric
< 1371609174 802169 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so
< 1371609179 936141 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise
< 1371609180 344537 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same
< 1371609181 450921 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo...
< 1371609186 845622 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same
< 1371609195 295092 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that this entire conversation was silly...
< 1371609236 406992 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1371609499 518312 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1371610386 586174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're moving to California you have to inspect all of your stuff for gypsy moths
< 1371610409 624363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess
< 1371610418 924923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this didn't happen the first time I moved to California
< 1371610446 873165 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't they always been strict about invasives? when we drove down there a couple years ago they stopped us at the border to search for oranges
< 1371610486 674744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371610742 149465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :szechuan pepper used to be banned for import to the US because it can carry a citrus disease
< 1371611622 170148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How thorough is the inspection?
< 1371611642 857586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a self-inspection
< 1371611644 871430 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had to open containers and stuff
< 1371611649 874101 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the guard
< 1371611672 464368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not everything, they have a checklist mostly of stuff that is stored outside, camping gear, things like that
< 1371611919 24209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what do you mean by "STEM means basically nothing"
< 1371611936 914743 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what's it supposed to include?
< 1371611973 607862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :science, technology, engineering, and math
< 1371611998 590637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some grey areas, that doesn't mean it's meaningless
< 1371612004 615393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very STEM attitude ;)
< 1371612020 417701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote formalist
< 1371612020 533206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :SaulGorn says: A formalist is one who cannot understand a theory unless it is meaningless.
< 1371612021 112817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardy har. But I mean, the NSF and others define it differently, etc
< 1371612111 375494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but their definitions are not totally divergent right
< 1371612135 258458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one's a subset of the other, i guess
< 1371612161 718044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did this observation come out of a more specific inconsistency between them?
< 1371612192 793490 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the reason i was thinking about it is that computational neuroscience counts me as STEM at school, even though i don't think biosciences generally do
< 1371612201 539937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming is cool because it's variously considered S, T, E, or M and people will argue forever about which it is
< 1371612207 8854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is bioscience not science
< 1371612213 173649 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell if i know
< 1371612220 684692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very weird
< 1371612223 524815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says it isn't?
< 1371612239 514753 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's because of that thing where like, "STEM" tends to mean whatever the speaker thinks of as ~real sciences for real men~ type of thing
< 1371612245 560555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The NSF uses a broader category to define STEM subjects which includes subjects in the fields of Chemistry, Computer and Information Technology Science, Engineering, Geosciences, Life Science..."
< 1371612265 454039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371612282 214129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all bioscience can't be nearly as hard as building daily deals sites in rails
< 1371612283 474360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US ICE doesn't list straight biology as STEM, looks like
< 1371612301 635956 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like is sociology a STEM?
< 1371612303 663207 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it's science
< 1371612307 844123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is psychology science enough?
< 1371612330 630787 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSF and ICE list it
< 1371612334 133918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or economics?  I mean that's math, right?   it's like.  where do you draw the line?
< 1371612347 733109 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(man why does the DHS even have this list. immigration policy is so fucked)
< 1371612356 803398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i know right
< 1371612374 271048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"welp you got your degree and could start a lucrative business now so GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE COUNTRY"
< 1371612387 618147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Digital Communication and Media/Multimedia" is STEM
< 1371612399 51591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have an opinion on whether social science should be included in "STEM"
< 1371612401 951264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just... don't care
< 1371612417 603702 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mostly i think that like, the whole policy it's based around is pretty stupid regardless
< 1371612432 582264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on context i'm sure.  like people often talk about getting young kids interested in STEM, and in that case it's more about some fundamental skills that are applicable in lots of fields
< 1371612435 705024 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what's the idea? we need more engineers but not more doctors so let's put more money into engineering education?
< 1371612436 640414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you know, math
< 1371612444 992408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about making it seem exciting
< 1371612463 946467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's wrong with that kind of government policy
< 1371612476 439375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think their reasoning for needing more engineers is wrong, that's one thing
< 1371612487 808017 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it might work if you were more specific, but just science in general seems pretty vague?
< 1371612495 661381 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just fund postsecondary education at that point
< 1371612506 288023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of things that are clearly not STEM
< 1371612511 651477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno
< 1371612515 645381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :culinary sciences
< 1371612517 584337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that STEM? XD
< 1371612521 496215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'molecular gastronomy'
< 1371612529 467755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow they list four different "Computer Programming" programs
< 1371612531 309622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear that term was invented to secure space at a scientific conference
< 1371612540 612822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: no, but food science is
< 1371612554 919489 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"food science"?
< 1371612570 887494 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea, this just has names
< 1371612597 131192 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ceramic Sciences and Engineering
< 1371612606 552989 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is all the list for immigration)
< 1371612624 840141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw yiss they list mechatronics. i need to get in on that
< 1371612682 319714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Gracenotes to california
< 1371612684 181720 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: to: california: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371612685 165969 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Packaging Science. ?????
< 1371612695 905925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. That's how you welcome people!
< 1371612732 772957 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do air, cars, laptops, plants, knee-replacements and lunch have in common? They all can be and are packaged! Students majoring in packaging science learn all about the design, engineering, science, innovation, research and business that make up this diverse industry. For more then 20 years, Clemson has been thinking outside of the box and producing career-ready graduates who are ready to solve the problems of tomorrow. Clemson is ...
< 1371612738 849171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... one of just seven schools in the U.S. that offer a degree in packaging science. Our program is unique as it blends together biology, chemistry and physics so when you graduate you can fill a need within industry. Since this is a very hands-on major, you’ll get to work with package design and graphics, food and health care packaging and advanced materials.
< 1371612771 106481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"outside of the box" I GET IT
< 1371612788 802910 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the kind of thinking you'll learn in this program, kmc
< 1371612801 45399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :□
< 1371612810 18052 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon hired package scientists to design its new ecofriendly packaging tape, I'm sure
< 1371612816 749422 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what the hell biology has to do with it though.
< 1371612830 189788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like ▣
< 1371612830 552857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... dealing with rotting, maybe?
< 1371612842 444222 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how WHITE SQAURE is black on my terminal
< 1371612853 57839 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo*
< 1371612882 861123 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strategic Intelligence is STEM... that sounds like a military thing
< 1371612896 565435 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :General Intelligence is too and i have no idea what that is. can you major in being smart?
< 1371612927 276627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ggZ5yAJ.png ok when it comes down to it, I'm a pretty immature guy
< 1371612961 973136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you call a function when for any x there's some n such that f^n(x) = f^{n+1}(x)?
< 1371612965 527655 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really need to petition for combining penis again
< 1371612994 910432 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, good question.
< 1371613069 427457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: character is already in use http://achewood.com/index.php?date=07022008
< 1371613136 34290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i can think is that it's not continuous which isn't really helpful
< 1371613163 464699 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'll start the petition right away
< 1371613165 230841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not continuous?
< 1371613174 393060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so iterating on every input eventually reaches a fixed point?
< 1371613178 865233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than some kind of cycle
< 1371613185 531476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or infinitely flying off somewhere
< 1371613198 25330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a term for this in chaos theory / dynamical systems
< 1371613203 143731 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where i would look anyway
< 1371613231 656164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371613255 595248 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's sort of like a limit set but not
< 1371613325 60781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eventually idempotent" is a term that comes to mind...
< 1371613368 154303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently someone else has used that term, too.
< 1371613380 204411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/~phorum/pdf/roa_823.pdf
< 1371613395 919975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew linguistics :'(
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< 1371614043 187803 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i checked with a dynamics guy and he couldn't think of a special term for it...
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< 1371614150 921650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will continue to use "eventually idempotent", then.
< 1371614173 894783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, seems descriptive enough.
< 1371614259 327557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems good except in a setting where you already have an important notion of time
< 1371614270 556233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :True.
< 1371614274 953351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could say that there aren't any cycles of period > 1.
< 1371614310 150565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is necessary but not sufficient for an infinite codomain
< 1371614322 389447 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh, yeah.
< 1371614335 802511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made the same mistake :)
< 1371614370 384131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, biodegradable packaging :)
< 1371614382 551948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er?
< 1371614394 570053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what biology has to do with packaging science
< 1371614400 997167 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what i was thinking
< 1371614415 589268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: model checking is "p. cool huh"
< 1371614437 979539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think so, haven't done any in a long time tho
< 1371614454 621100 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep-the-food-fresh packaging "the biology is for what the heck is that food doing in there what makes it spoil"
< 1371614462 515283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you looked at Alloy? http://alloy.mit.edu/alloy/
< 1371614467 389641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like model checking but not
< 1371614469 944444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting stuff
< 1371614476 424242 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??model checking but not??
< 1371614479 959407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a monad is like a biodegradable package hth
< 1371614484 164029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_<
< 1371614538 971355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo all packaging should come pre-inoculated with oyster mushroom spawn
< 1371614574 318397 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparenty, PHP is case-insensitive for functions, but case-sensitive for variables.
< 1371614580 86149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a monad is like a room where the walls keep moving in and you can't escape and you get crushed
< 1371614586 537046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i doing the thing i hate
< 1371614592 854035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: probably so that constants work?
< 1371614614 208863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hilarious
< 1371614624 5398 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. somebody really wanted a variable called $_post
< 1371614648 472513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo death to php
< 1371614651 735083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I casein-sensitiive
< 1371614660 792909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ii/i/
< 1371614668 450565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is my keyboard producing double letters?
< 1371614676 740868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It started when I spilled some liquid in it.
< 1371614684 156826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? I never noticed it before.
< 1371614690 953200 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't have an opinion in the great case-insensitive vs case-sensitive debate, but I think straddling the line is probably the worst of the options
< 1371614693 28398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I'm making things up.
< 1371614710 371028 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for the golden mean fallacy applied in the situation where the mean is in fact the worst possible option?
< 1371614719 838838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: very courageous of you to suggest that php does something badly
< 1371614724 42969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in here
< 1371614751 272886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i would describe that result as 'worst of both worlds' but that doesn't specifically invoke the fallacy
< 1371614805 656603 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that phrase also implies that it's the negative features of each side that are prominent, when it's really just the inconsistency
< 1371614810 287557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371614811 78526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1371614839 11103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'shifting the overton window in programming languages' would be a good title for probably a bad article
< 1371614846 779574 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there has to be something worse. Maybe case-sensitive if compilation starts on an even second of the minute, case-insensitive otherwise?
< 1371614850 900359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1371614923 678762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be an interesting article but i don't have any ideas on how to actually do that so i won't write it
< 1371614956 166212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :CoYoneda . Is = (->)
< 1371614958 489879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that great ht
< 1371614960 24742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h
< 1371615014 484637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are some good non-functor types to give to CoYoneda
< 1371615250 402970 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Is
< 1371615251 118567 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Not in scope: data constructor `Is'
< 1371615251 199741 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    Perhaps you meant `In' (imported from Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Trusted)
< 1371615268 245290 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that was dumb. oh well
< 1371615271 917250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that your leibniz equality thing agai
< 1371615272 609831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n
< 1371615275 579319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371615278 576989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just gadt equality
< 1371615281 525132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371615283 627385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it doesn't matter here
< 1371615289 353059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Is a b where Refl :: Is a a
< 1371615289 451054 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: GADTs is not enabled
< 1371615294 75631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott...................
< 1371615306 582412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Is a b = (a ~ b) => Refl
< 1371615306 693968 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TypeFamilies is not enabled
< 1371615312 464678 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371615312 906641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott..........................................................
< 1371615327 902879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it hardly matters.
< 1371615336 637124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's Leibniz equality.
< 1371615344 392780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by elimination :)
< 1371615354 52989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype Is a b = Is { subst :: forall p. p a -> p b }
< 1371615354 151545 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TypeOperators is not enabled
< 1371615364 966066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott..............................................................................................................................................................................
< 1371615383 256285 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you already knew typeoperators wasn't enabled.
< 1371615399 464150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does TypeOperators have to do with it?
< 1371615402 400689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't using TypeOperators. I was using RankNTypes.
< 1371615408 464642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it isn't seeing forall as a keyword.
< 1371615413 537386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And instead seeing . as an operator.)
< 1371615414 233519 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you used it before, o well
< 1371615427 456255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try ∀ instead, hth
< 1371615466 506977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ȁ
< 1371615467 416057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371615471 531725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hjälp
< 1371615488 899029 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ḧël̈p̈
< 1371615504 294602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language uses LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH DOUBLE GRAVE
< 1371615524 321547 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo all of them
< 1371615526 183808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dead language hth
< 1371615545 217927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THE JOKE IS GRAVE)
< 1371615548 831247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(DOUBLE GRAVE)
< 1371615551 908861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BECAUSE IT DIED)
< 1371615552 944005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like, the joke is dire
< 1371615553 15906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TWICE)
< 1371615565 403415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has shachaf finally snapped? tune in next week
< 1371615569 956272 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a double joke whereby "hth" is a dead horse (RIP)
< 1371615586 892365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ban mnoqy hth
< 1371615777 709509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when does a monqy become a mnoqy
< 1371616100 364245 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the heck other than the US do you have a program in "Joint Command Task Force Systems"; relatedly i'm feeling pretty bitter how much of the immigration "STEM" is military
< 1371616117 764557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh
< 1371616134 251109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet in german they have a single word for that
< 1371616135 462380 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1371616143 671389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is it any shorter
< 1371616150 470509 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also "Undersea Warfare" which is definitely onewordgermanic
< 1371616822 104933 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371617212 215957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was originally wondering about the idempotence thing because of that creative-usernames thing, for what it's worth.)
< 1371617260 54191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. heh.
< 1371617274 988623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah
< 1371618291 38392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome´
< 1371618292 441648 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: welcome´: not found
< 1371618394 37549 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371618774 267506 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«For example, finding all occurences of «homogenos» [sic] allowing two errors in a one megabyte bibliographic text takes about 0.4 seconds on a SUN SparcStation II, which is about twice as fast as running the program egrep (which will not find anything because of the misspelling)» programmers sure are cheeky sometimes
< 1371618788 509374 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«We actually used this example and found a misspelling in our text.»
< 1371619245 37136 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun sparcstation ii..sounds aight..
< 1371619268 57513 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fastest chip in the west
< 1371619271 910761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: what does "aight" mean
< 1371619282 175026 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a(lr)ight with a sexy accent
< 1371619302 816410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "a(lr)ight" mean
< 1371619468 112163 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does anything mean
< 1371619699 464875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alalr(1)ight
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< 1371624860 554823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I remember reading that thing. From agrep something, right? 
< 1371624877 481946 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1371625695 59375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good mmap bug
< 1371625705 123610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
< 1371625736 976911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'more of a ptrace bug imo'
< 1371625806 395247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'well yes'
< 1371625817 305580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'but mmap is shorter than ptrace and communicated what i meant just as well'
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< 1371625827 807247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'which was "a bug involving mmap", not "a bug in mmap"'
< 1371625828 115272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if the freebsd ptrace interface is saner than the linux one

< 1371625833 289599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc os x's is even worse
< 1371625834 623173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :these savings are now wasted on this metadiscussion
< 1371625866 200668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In OS X ptrace can't do half the things you want it to, right?
< 1371625871 413367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's some Mach-specific API.
< 1371625871 790666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone was telling me how OS X doesn't (or didn't) provide a way to ptrace the child after a fork
< 1371625874 725370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371625988 768462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :would unboxed sum types improve ghc
< 1371626027 198129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1371626031 341373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would unboxed lazy vectors improve ghc
< 1371626042 547158 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do unboxed lazy?
< 1371626097 960480 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371626819 433810 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371626894 879346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a function that e.g. returns a Maybe not actually allocating anything
< 1371626922 152092 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a wonderful world such would be
< 1371626959 492330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best of all possible worlds
< 1371626967 341032 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe
< 1371626997 952513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eq :: (Typeable a, Typeable b) => Maybe (Is a b)
< 1371627002 516257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I push for that in base?
< 1371627064 897906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know a basic sparse array representation I can learn quicklike?
< 1371627080 468995 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it "basically a hash table"
< 1371627124 148285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an array of (index, value) tuples.
< 1371627156 697601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :radix tree hth
< 1371627196 15479 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1371627302 637903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, using what for branching? ranges?
< 1371627336 978788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Branching?
< 1371627347 452092 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the tree.
< 1371627360 61133 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, i was thinkin the keys would be integers, not strings, so.
< 1371627369 280080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :integers = strings of bits hth
< 1371627383 535003 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's ranges
< 1371627385 11920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hs
< 1371627806 571057 :comex!~comex@ec2-23-22-255-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me
< 1371627826 187596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude, free -h
< 1371627877 313660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :youre welcome
< 1371627937 800031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: my idea for unboxed lazy arrays is that each cell is either a pointer to a thunk or an unboxed value
< 1371627944 668145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they are sized to the larger of the two
< 1371627949 658286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have a bitmap or something to tell you which is which
< 1371627959 222481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: could you implement that reasonably without changing ghc itself
< 1371627974 83869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main problem would be the gc i guess?
< 1371627977 146437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the unboxed value is smaller than a pointer then you can avoid taking up extra space for that bitmap
< 1371628008 503527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: for your sparse array how about a trie
< 1371628090 800089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :radix tree = trie with an optimization for long prefixes
< 1371628113 558926 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm doing a radix tree 'cos of that.
< 1371628115 649654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :IntMap is an example
< 1371628128 278671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371628161 93579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen Data.Map's code it's too scary :'(
< 1371628167 319461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't code like this be simple or something :'(
< 1371629043 848715 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good way to get the position of the least significant bit not shared by two integers, i'm blanking
< 1371629058 571357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :read Hacker's Delight, hth
< 1371629068 567234 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right zero count of the xor i guess?
< 1371629070 912668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xor them and then yep
< 1371629099 653828 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one am is not the time to be reading hacker's delight, i think
< 1371629112 234237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc Built-in Function: int __builtin_ffs (unsigned int x): Returns one plus the index of the least significant 1-bit of x, or if x is zero, returns zero.
< 1371629124 808431 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffs indeed
< 1371629179 255415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, isn't that the same as builtin_ctz
< 1371629188 86226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh except for the defined zero
< 1371629193 173417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah
< 1371629202 493011 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh plus one probably
< 1371629203 893289 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i'm tired
< 1371629228 541880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_trailing_zeros how convenient
< 1371629230 570187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4
< 1371629260 551116 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `oeis' failed with: <>
< 1371629272 395095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is in posix? i had no idea
< 1371629303 310295 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371629311 585157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me either
< 1371629313 136326 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok posix has ctz but not clz
< 1371629314 96036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool
< 1371629315 50987 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1371629381 553369 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfin reading this stuff takes you to weird places
< 1371629393 2299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?37827-Greetings-from-GE-Canada
< 1371629394 237169 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this has hamming weight as an instruction, apparently)
< 1371629402 989803 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONES
< 1371629421 144857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well i'm terrified.
< 1371629433 109806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/
< 1371629463 819568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: me too, but I'm also glad they don't rewrite it every 2 yeras
< 1371629471 484386 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted
< 1371629477 172035 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a weird thing to commit to, though
< 1371629834 610599 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.106.121 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371630181 855673 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist just now
< 1371630186 645227 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist just now: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1371630400 900873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :our nuclear power plants are 100% agile, we use node.js and scrum methodology
< 1371630466 312906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc no ;_;
< 1371630659 693103 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371630726 818702 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371630907 806524 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: gotta go
< 1371632767 883530 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371633116 353913 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I think I'm building GHC as a stress relief
< 1371633154 202552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! I must stop!
< 1371633166 551960 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION breathes

< 1371633519 941868 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371633569 320884 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371633581 363206 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371633629 139433 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371633694 427489 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how does building GHC relieve stress?
< 1371633715 508301 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I realised it doesn't, so I stopped
< 1371633726 645407 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, makes sense
< 1371635845 962559 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371636239 294664 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/aardappel
< 1371636262 569961 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/node/The%20Aesthetics%20of%20Esolangs.html
< 1371636362 374430 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i haven't heard anything more from jsvine so i'll assume he didn't get anything publishable out of the interview.  but i'll ask him if he's willing to contribute his befunge program to the examples archive.
< 1371636486 937019 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 hey, i see your Please Porige Hot page is 403 forbidden.  it would make me really happy if it was not forbidden!
< 1371636487 209217 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371636664 936173 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan well then *i* flubbed.
< 1371636665 286475 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371636728 642577 :cpressey!~cpressey@31.126.193.20 QUIT :Quit: leaving
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< 1371636993 325425 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
> 1371636994 208370 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371637050 578915 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1371639456 862509 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1371639547 175970 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371639579 804258 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371639586 590281 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371639638 96292 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks it is cool that he is running Xubuntu 13.04 (installed from a 12.10 stick and immediately upgraded) on an 8gb class-6 sdhc card.

< 1371639747 544250 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, could someone point me to a page with the brainf*ck language info?
< 1371639747 853083 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that happens
< 1371639752 715568 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh uh
< 1371639758 748147 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :info?
< 1371639779 934748 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, commands
< 1371639788 507612 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck
< 1371639944 159063 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1371640371 546005 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thought bf would make little sense. instead, he found that unlambda makes it look normal.

< 1371640450 700347 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both pretty normal.. what makes little sense is the hype around bf
< 1371640495 842978 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the name
< 1371640565 459504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: unlambda isn't very normal
< 1371640573 405640 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the details of d and c
< 1371640587 920899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d is very not normal
< 1371640589 108632 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget what d is like but i know c
< 1371640639 687050 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess c isnt "normal"..
< 1371640647 179489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.madore.org/~david/programs/unlambda/#delay
< 1371640693 358378 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1371640704 563318 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang evaluation order tricks
< 1371640754 931679 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you Taneb 
< 1371640937 14749 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
< 1371641295 317379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem, Sgeo
< 1371641662 553297 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and F evaluates to d (for example when F is d)"
< 1371641663 11493 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute
< 1371641701 38922 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371641728 385536 :benuphoenix!~benuphoen@cpe-74-69-160-115.stny.res.rr.com PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1371641792 316575 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WHEN F IS NOT d!
< 1371641801 582969 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :F shall NEVER evaluate to d!
< 1371641803 477579 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaha!
< 1371641809 216905 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1371641813 192818 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to taneb
< 1371641843 174010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'm a bit stressed with exams
< 1371641853 877691 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371641880 234383 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which exams
< 1371641926 178049 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371642204 593060 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah
< 1371642215 538544 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :system shock 2 comes with a manual
< 1371642271 858052 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-levels
< 1371642275 547479 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got two exams left
< 1371642282 893847 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which exams
< 1371642568 341918 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-levels, he already said that
< 1371642581 81817 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which two a-levels!
< 1371643063 347183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371643096 496807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the last two
< 1371643105 815118 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371643122 480398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, three!
< 1371643134 186797 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get a-levels in dance
< 1371643139 299609 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll say no more
< 1371643501 817330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PART :#esoteric
< 1371643514 448253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371643527 522087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong window :(
< 1371643625 727762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan
< 1371643683 111969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : F shall NEVER evaluate to d! <-- SORRY INCORRECT HTH
< 1371643848 622082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/ <-- for a fraction of a second i read that as php, fortunately i realized before completely panicking
< 1371644030 784057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's enough logs for today
< 1371644643 34064 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371644750 271362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um right, hi
< 1371644765 221033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371644769 724408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371644825 292820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371644999 833819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ais523 doesn't replace the featured langauge soon I will have no choice but to admin oerjan and tell him to do it.
< 1371645009 799180 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admin me
< 1371645022 259470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but I'm concentrating on other things
< 1371645058 387258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tell that to oerjan!!
< 1371645092 423081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have a back ache :(
< 1371645117 876161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably shouldn't be on the computer at all
< 1371645490 959681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :make an esolang based on back ache, hth
< 1371645677 910238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dialect of lifescript, i take
< 1371645683 466094 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
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< 1371646667 359470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do _you_ understand today's lightning made of owls? :/
< 1371646704 462233 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I do not
< 1371646733 956829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1371647015 237724 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the hexham weather
< 1371647024 924513 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warnm
< 1371647103 120348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its very warnm in hexham right now yes
< 1371647112 425312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like the temperature of doom
< 1371647482 529625 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371647485 173020 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371647609 940140 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice how Warnm backwards is mnraW
< 1371647620 480342 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is like MN raw
< 1371647627 243216 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is MN? Nobody knows
< 1371647628 423972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as raw as minnesota
< 1371647644 277023 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is MN? elliott knows
< 1371647665 831566 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371647703 944613 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott
< 1371647707 181354 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy system shock 2
< 1371647711 168586 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not playing it alone
< 1371647760 60576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iaaven't even played system shock 1
< 1371647762 71472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe i did once
< 1371647775 153280 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it was 2
< 1371647778 259624 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to play system shock 1
< 1371647789 366019 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui it has aged awfully
< 1371647814 285216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like you
< 1371647833 905452 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like your mum
< 1371648420 268198 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371648556 463135 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371648955 745288 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_nonsense cute
< 1371649061 725023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION chases nooodl through a diagram with the swatter -----###

< 1371649072 697395 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the daily commute?
< 1371649091 196903 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott :')
< 1371649094 261306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats elliott -----###

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< 1371656474 13895 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371656678 51721 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
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< 1371657026 316115 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371657195 254922 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371657234 313465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1371657390 919259 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently all the results in the DLP paper rely on heuristics
< 1371657433 319191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People talk as they ride bicycles - at a rush - without pausing to consider their surroundings."
< 1371657765 908633 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://spectrum.ieee.org/consumer-electronics/portable-devices/echolocation-by-smartphone-possible wow
< 1371658300 994745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371658340 533141 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371658348 999390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what's DLP?
< 1371658377 414245 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :discrete logarithm problem
< 1371658387 143043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1371658413 638242 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the paper shachaf and kmc were talking about is heuristastic.
< 1371658444 855443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i've forgot to check the box to reconnect the wireless automatically, i hope this will improve things
< 1371658465 505120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not doing it, that is)
< 1371658492 290133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not forgetting, or not checking the box?
< 1371658575 230583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit
< 1371658610 535986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION buries olsner under an avalanche of iterated negations

< 1371658635 447574 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooooo
< 1371659166 624680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly!
< 1371659193 928536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now pizza
< 1371659211 275536 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-43-227.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371659350 257353 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-214-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1371659352 45645 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-43-227.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
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< 1371661273 782140 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371662852 327079 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
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< 1371665740 649304 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1371665955 358267 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1371667369 618803 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant
< 1371667694 304849 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371668046 181089 :oscarrio!~oscarrio@190.206.239.140 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371668125 793275 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371668268 497564 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi guys :)
< 1371668289 962874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371668294 768595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome hiato
< 1371668297 343702 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371668318 822388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why you gotta use the only boring welcome
< 1371668320 331688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome hiato
< 1371668323 282392 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03h13iato: Wel05co09me 09to the int10ernati13on10al 09hub f02or es10oteri11c prog14rammin07g language 12design an03d deployment! 02For mor06e inf11ormation,03 check out our wi08ki07: http06:/13/esolan05gs.org03/wiki10/Main_Page. (For 13the other ki05nd of es11ote10ric10a, try 08#es13oteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371668333 254731 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, hey elliott 
< 1371668363 22634 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, so I haven't been here for a very, very long time.
< 1371668372 776903 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was making me sad, really.
< 1371668379 494578 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember you!!
< 1371668384 415144 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks u gaiz are the best

< 1371668388 861996 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato's hiatus
< 1371668391 369567 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ;)
< 1371668403 999072 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: :P
< 1371668423 133313 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, I was here when I was a young one, which would have made elliott a toddler practically
< 1371668431 756973 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's all relative I suppose
< 1371668434 377624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re-welcome hiato!
< 1371668446 930067 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember hiato
< 1371668456 854107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i am an old man
< 1371668459 545921 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Heh, why thank you :) I still remember that time you helped me with my silly maths homework
< 1371668476 212197 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh, but I remember you 
< 1371668501 155918 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember
< 1371668521 370298 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm not *that* memorable.
< 1371668547 251426 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok, not everyone has to be memorable
< 1371668552 983511 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 
< 1371668559 250511 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember you because you used fucking delphi or whatever
< 1371668563 484758 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was here mostly around 2007/8 or so
< 1371668564 677088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like some kind of alien
< 1371668575 18285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i remember you for other reasons too
< 1371668578 166955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's like #1 or #2
< 1371668581 360056 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha, yeah, that was all I knew at that stage.
< 1371668583 647952 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hiato
< 1371668584 626223 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"also used snobol"
< 1371668585 506650 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371668585 848261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember hiato for the electricity rationing
< 1371668595 604697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that's got better, at least
< 1371668606 279962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember that too
< 1371668631 887534 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, wow, I don't even remember telling you about it. Well, nope, not really. At least, it's winter now and there hasn't been one for some time, but I suppose it was at it's worst back then
< 1371668632 150500 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's hiato from?
< 1371668635 956530 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.za?
< 1371668637 611297 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: South Africa
< 1371668641 180713 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh
< 1371668691 890970 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it would be rather silly of me to ask, but I'll try anyway: what's been happening?
< 1371668707 784188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot, sadly, esolang development's been kind-of slow
< 1371668713 844222 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the channel got interviewed by a WSJ reporter for some reason
< 1371668717 454989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was fun
< 1371668717 875368 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etbcKWEKnvg wow good
< 1371668720 331004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took over the world and a guy from the wall street journal interviewed cpressey over irc and made hexham jokes
< 1371668722 741038 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked back on the wiki recently and it's exploded in size since I remember it
< 1371668724 178136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we grouped together to make Radixal!!!!
< 1371668728 201987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and additionally someone else came here from hexham, completely randomly
< 1371668732 972664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what, seriously?
< 1371668741 471284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what the fuck
< 1371668742 498558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many times
< 1371668743 582486 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, that's pretty awesome! Gar, I missed a channel interview
< 1371668746 455690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you forgotten that taneb is from hexham
< 1371668753 100618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even funny any more
< 1371668753 327796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I thought you meant someone beyond taneb
< 1371668755 30969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371668757 592419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i meant taneb
< 1371668773 289133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe hiato wasn't there for the "hexham craze"
< 1371668777 109124 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :were "hexham jokes" even a thing before taneb turned out to also be yeah
< 1371668787 873685 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hexham craze?
< 1371668790 902468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well when I first knew elliott he didn't even live in hexham
< 1371668791 128988 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Hexham
< 1371668797 222883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet-knew
< 1371668799 245001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought we already had a third hexham
< 1371668802 842452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so obviously there couldn't be hexham jokes then
< 1371668804 383744 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5982
< 1371668808 134556 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure who, but someone
< 1371668813 124265 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "hexham" what you call a person from hexham.
< 1371668814 766446 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so haha, I though you were excited about radixal. It turns out the !!! is part of the name.
< 1371668815 64933 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. good
< 1371668815 829910 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was The Hexham Epiphany again
< 1371668824 10531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: four exclamation marks
< 1371668831 329094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we chose that because we thought three was the highest justifiable value
< 1371668837 415757 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, wouldn't want to understate it
< 1371668838 24429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that radix
< 1371668855 800705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: er
< 1371668857 481754 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, 2011-07-16
< 1371668860 517732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you first knew me in 2007 right
< 1371668862 672034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in hexham then
< 1371668866 553043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not sure
< 1371668871 373376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in hexham in 2004
< 1371668880 242408 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, you were going to move iirc
< 1371668883 655889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember you living in a hamlet near hexham with a name nobody could remember
< 1371668884 521047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: I live in hexham which is a pretty small rural down (pop. like 11k)
< 1371668893 560572 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-07-16#160048PhantomHoover
< 1371668900 821151 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore elliott, this is a much funnier way to find out
< 1371668904 749978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham lite
< 1371668920 491356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :context for Phantom_Hoover's link: he previously mentioned living in northumberland
< 1371668923 520948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hexham is in northumberland)
< 1371668930 595278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then oerjan joked that taneb would turn out to be my next-door neighbour.
< 1371668937 12277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: northumberland is a lot bigger than hexham)
< 1371668953 706110 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was taneb's line a clue for ph to jump to that conclusion though
< 1371668971 287085 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"he's this kid who refused to meet me a few weeks ago" the plot thickens
< 1371668977 169254 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it just the "my town"
< 1371668979 191893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: because elliott "famously" came from hexham
< 1371668985 180739 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, because he made it clear he lived in a tiny shithole of a town
< 1371668990 315040 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in northumberland
< 1371668993 154954 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, ok, reading now
< 1371668994 439952 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm yeah
< 1371668995 699488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: divine inspiration
< 1371668995 930283 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham fits all these criteria
< 1371669010 74554 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham is awesome though
< 1371669013 99013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got a field
< 1371669016 566111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure jesus just came down from the heavens and pushed the knowledge into Phantom_Hoover's head
< 1371669020 90415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fucking love fields
< 1371669022 266259 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an abbey!
< 1371669026 378212 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget your abbety
< 1371669028 352151 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*abbey
< 1371669036 453269 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that reminds me of A Thing
< 1371669053 518585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the school i'm enrolled in it super hilly, to the extent that there's a place called Johnson Flats, which is not flat and is on a hill
< 1371669064 175492 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :positively british naming sense, i must say
< 1371669075 809204 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:09:37: -!- monqy has joined #esoteric.
< 1371669078 862700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Birmingham has lots and lots of little hills
< 1371669079 600109 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this log is gonna get good
< 1371669084 303576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the extent that horizontal flat land is rare
< 1371669098 395964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are few hills that impress people who come from, say, Sheffield
< 1371669119 462217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite example: there's a car park that you can enter at ground level, go up 8 floors, and come out at ground level
< 1371669128 842367 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet
< 1371669130 577786 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :edinburgh has a bunch of hills
< 1371669154 772125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: no it gets bad shortly afterwards
< 1371669156 110205 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a wp article on "the seven hills of edinburgh" which lists a bunch of sets of seven hills people call "the seven hills of edinburgh"
< 1371669157 489337 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great
< 1371669158 262573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because cheater starts talking
< 1371669163 13660 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"16:18:15:  that proves nothing, you could've edited every school's wp page at that time."
< 1371669163 989896 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot my user page redirects to High Middle Ages
< 1371669164 214454 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, ok, so that is hilarious! :D Why would oklopol give Phantom_Hoover such a hard time about this?
< 1371669167 224386 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol...
< 1371669178 781406 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, I can't remember it ever having redirected there
< 1371669185 548897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it taneb who was given a hard time...
< 1371669185 982299 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I do that
< 1371669197 119399 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, by oklopol ?
< 1371669210 337099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but you said Phantom_Hoover!!
< 1371669217 901227 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whoops, yes, Taneb 
< 1371669229 374564 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : My next door neighbours are Mr Snowdon and the Bradshaws!
< 1371669238 673671 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They still are
< 1371669259 895927 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, oko was explaining path-connectedness to me?
< 1371669273 845682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1371669283 230690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan made the neighbour prediction before taneb said he lived in northumberland
< 1371669312 92572 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think tswett is the one I keep expecting to live in hexham but never does
< 1371669326 777288 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he lives in australia you idiot
< 1371669331 276011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't tswett live in Finland/Australia/Antarctica
< 1371669332 830766 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric : I cannot think of a way to prove that I am in Hexham -- this conversation is incredible
< 1371669385 736547 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wow, you really wanted to prove this
< 1371669406 777771 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like how the discussion of topological connectedness is interposed with iti saying some shit about vectors
< 1371669436 267402 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found list of spells of D&D game including "Explosive Familiar" it makes the caster's familiar explosive, and "Feign Invisibility" which causes others to believe the caster is invisible even though they can clearly see the caster, they must think they can see him somehow even if he is invisible.
< 1371669446 513916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you zzo38
< 1371669457 218513 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just saw that and thought it was funny.
< 1371669464 877174 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it makes them think they can see through invisibility spells
< 1371669465 671434 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh
< 1371669472 580195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a literal quote from zzo38
< 1371669474 301752 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be useful
< 1371669485 617675 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : who's itidus20 btw
< 1371669487 928152 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god this was
< 1371669492 55094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus20
< 1371669494 298575 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20's entry has been censored.
< 1371669495 390464 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same day??
< 1371669499 244127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:09:09:  I will stand next to the abbey in site of the Hexham Courant Webcam for a while with a sign saying "I AM TANEB"
< 1371669500 775228 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus21
< 1371669501 910338 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus22
< 1371669502 639318 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21 just made some instant coffee.
< 1371669502 864874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:09:12:  But not today
< 1371669503 160163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you still have to do this
< 1371669503 818188 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus22? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371669512 546256 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? itidus19
< 1371669514 806142 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus19 disappeared into a space-time anomaly
< 1371669524 42082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I know
< 1371669526 542169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"some day, maybe next Friday"
< 1371669538 482703 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, are you up to speed on the channel in-jokes yet
< 1371669543 696886 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he'll show up at your house with a sign that says "I AM TANEB AND I LUV U"
< 1371669548 45659 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm getting there :P
< 1371669557 269237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i luv u 2, Taneb
< 1371669557 783017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION keeps quiet

< 1371669572 116104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of channel in-jokes
< 1371669573 7145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: op me
< 1371669576 630247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, now I'm going to have to ask zzo38 what overmate is
< 1371669579 109997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I did
< 1371669591 994650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the other kind of op me
< 1371669637 462461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :which kind of op me is that?
< 1371669646 380726 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one where you do it via /msg chanserv access!
< 1371669653 769449 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:07:05:  I got famous last year for wearing a dressing gown and joining a political organization
< 1371669663 760697 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this log is so good
< 1371669664 151951 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, that is a true story
< 1371669675 690784 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it is no longer last year
< 1371669679 314389 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is like ages ago
< 1371669680 346228 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :famous enough for elliott to see it and provide independent confirmation of it?
< 1371669683 718823 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you are an endless source of amazing quotes
< 1371669692 137485 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup
< 1371669715 871168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you Taneb
< 1371669722 413071 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my claim to fame is wounding a man with a spoon
< 1371669742 16429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did?
< 1371669749 386198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: I have to be careful when reading the entire quotes database
< 1371669755 299653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I can't breathe I laugh so much
< 1371669756 822271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1371669759 492276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Taneb
< 1371669765 370420 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17667
< 1371669765 891595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that for anyone in here :)
< 1371669780 880471 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes hiato 
< 1371669786 629818 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27697
< 1371669799 744175 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think that functionality was implemented sometime after me
< 1371669802 643808 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait
< 1371669814 453711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there aren't any hiato quotes in the list
< 1371669815 832752 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's blank
< 1371669817 404961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody's added any
< 1371669834 637296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Taneb used to be called Ngevd
< 1371669854 312666 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I don't recall this being a feature. In any event, I will continue to read Taneb quotes and that log because you sir, are amazing
< 1371669865 569570 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that great
< 1371669865 795227 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember Ngevd, yeah, I think.
< 1371669880 275146 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep forgetting when i joined #esoteric
< 1371669880 578735 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd
< 1371669882 805963 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm looking it up)
< 1371669889 639815 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :6�T��xB�����%��JE"���d��*�@�_&���k��@KC�\<��
< 1371669893 691128 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as ais523 described, I had to literally stop reading to allow for breathing
< 1371669895 160063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen hiato
< 1371669896 579283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1371669897 821995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wont work
< 1371669899 200542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-19 19:24:53:  Taneb: as ais523 described, I had to literally stop reading to allow for breathing
< 1371669900 816450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr pastseen
< 1371669933 388740 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow cool
< 1371669935 899093 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-10-21.txt:02:40:28:   nooodl: 1, 1, …? Everyone knows the Fibonacci sequence begins with 89, -55.
< 1371669936 125576 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-10-31.txt:00:36:49: -!- nooodl has joined #esoteric.
< 1371669951 439930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Ngevd
< 1371669957 259046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.30517
< 1371669993 151468 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We haven't told hiato about Facekicker
< 1371670017 240203 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :please, I don't know that I can handle more hilarious logs this evening
< 1371670023 96032 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371670039 217137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time hiato
< 1371670040 325095 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for hiato is Wed Jun 19 21:22:20 2013
< 1371670049 559410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is south africa really utc+1
< 1371670050 905036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weiiiird
< 1371670054 155138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh maybe it's bst
< 1371670056 321031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that would be utc+2
< 1371670066 578603 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, GMT+2
< 1371670080 957001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't you be on winter time/standard time/non-summer time now though?
< 1371670082 670905 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, should we tell hiato about Facekicker
< 1371670100 83863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that is up to you
< 1371670111 265944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's june!
< 1371670112 446029 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: in this country, the government saves energy by randomly shutting off power to suburbs. No need for pesky daylight savings.
< 1371670114 690734 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't tell it in a funny way!
< 1371670120 742417 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: aah, clever
< 1371670131 798549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds more reliably energy saving too
< 1371670147 287299 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 100% energy saved on grids, gauranteed!
< 1371670158 409575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :south africa sounds like a weird place
< 1371670168 293730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, basically, for a few hours I thought elliott kicked one of my friends in the face but it turned out to be a different Elliott Hird
< 1371670172 344784 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you should see what it /looks/ like then
< 1371670181 451178 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: lolwut
< 1371670182 480201 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say daylight savings time saves like 1% of power, but I think that was before they invented air conditioning
< 1371670203 855221 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How many Elliotts are there in Hexham?
< 1371670208 834625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i see how it is
< 1371670212 814174 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, I can think of three
< 1371670218 558306 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: haha, wow
< 1371670231 872780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why would it be summertime in winter?
< 1371670232 336351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody knows what happened to Facekicker for the past 8 years, though
< 1371670255 762223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, Hexham's got almost 12000 people. That's like 0.025%
< 1371670257 359015 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also, what on earth leads someone to kick someone else in the face? Was the guy kicking really flexible, or suffering giantism?
< 1371670260 911551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, "it turned out to be a different Elliott Hird" is almost as weird as the multiple-hexhamites thing
< 1371670266 43526 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, he was standing on a table
< 1371670275 528917 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ah, makes more sense now
< 1371670279 823344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never even hird of the surname "hird" before this channel
< 1371670283 530279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm still dubious
< 1371670289 204316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously doubt there are other elliott hirds
< 1371670293 918751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it was actually me
< 1371670294 572044 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is home to the most ridiculous Hexham-centred stories I have ever heard
< 1371670297 626802 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hird
< 1371670300 946791 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my friends went to first school with someone called Elliott Hird
< 1371670327 259337 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a small village close to Hexham but closer to Prudhoe
< 1371670333 476417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: well hexham-centered stories aren't very common
< 1371670339 56679 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, wait, I completely missed the "different"
< 1371670340 194487 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think every man in hexham that none of us has met yet is called elliott hird
< 1371670344 894863 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, ok, now this story is ridiculous
< 1371670353 982341 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise elliott 's surname was also Hird
< 1371670388 607119 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even like it's that common a name
< 1371670392 867961 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you suuuure you never kicked anyone in the face
< 1371670408 596732 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you google elliott hird it's a mix of elliott and a kitchen planner
< 1371670409 736734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: i probably have
< 1371670411 640282 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :P.S. maybe you're related and it's just another elliott in the Hird family
< 1371670418 992747 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and there I was thinking facekicker would be some sort of in joke about a facebook derivative or some such)
< 1371670422 714283 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, idk, kicking people in the face is q. hard
< 1371670430 425570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i got kicked in the face once
< 1371670445 903988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the victim is lying down?
< 1371670450 858453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1371670453 488979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i don't remember
< 1371670457 149568 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you deserved it for kicking someone in the face though
< 1371670457 612132 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1371670458 226941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facekicker was standing on a table
< 1371670458 450987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's why one of my teeth is chipped at least
< 1371670467 983549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1371670473 175877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was from walking into the glass
< 1371670474 256000 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the story is the wrong way around and Taneb's friend kicked elliott
< 1371670483 290603 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Facekicker <---> Kingslayer. Any connection in naming scheme?
< 1371670492 900958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i mixed up getting a hole in my head with chipping my tooth i think
< 1371670493 509073 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371670502 90414 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that they both consist of a thing and then what they did to that thing
< 1371670512 915034 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why thank you
< 1371670588 120242 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yikes are you even still alive
< 1371670616 491687 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you get a hole in your head
< 1371670623 755181 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure you can't get that from kicking
< 1371670633 286130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: no
< 1371670641 615228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i fell on some toy thing when i was young
< 1371670647 427260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i say hole i mean
< 1371670648 20656 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, trepanation
< 1371670652 155946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was incredibly tiny
< 1371670655 733349 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a number of holes in my head.
< 1371670657 551239 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is they put some kind of glue thing on it
< 1371670657 777043 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this toy a big metal spike
< 1371670660 681157 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it repaired itself
< 1371670661 193973 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so radixal!!!! looks kinda cool, nice job
< 1371670670 290980 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of a good childhood story when i was like 11
< 1371670675 636688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: thanks
< 1371670679 781711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I had something similar, but it was a bridge
< 1371670680 420668 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was really pissed about something, i don't remember what it was
< 1371670688 25287 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i decided to solve my anger issues by kicking something
< 1371670697 947427 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the closest thing was a stone wall
< 1371670702 291476 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once pushed my sister into a drawer or something by accident
< 1371670713 214644 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then my mum had to staple her head back together
< 1371670726 53353 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i may be making myself sound like a psychopath here
< 1371670730 617858 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes :(
< 1371670739 529675 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too though
< 1371670764 188724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, for at least two generations in my family, the elder brother has pushed the second brother off a bed, causing a permanent scar
< 1371670770 383484 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but at least you're not the one who stapled your sister's head?
< 1371670773 821388 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's more embarrassing/haunting than it sounds; why did i kick a fucking wall? what was wrong with me
< 1371670783 812413 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well she used a medical stapler
< 1371670824 914111 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"medical staplers" look very badass thanks google
< 1371670828 64199 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you injure someone with an object, you can always say “well, it was a medical $foo”
< 1371670839 297233 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that song that goes "Doo, dee, do-doo; Doo, dee, do-da"?
< 1371670857 673036 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Meshuggah – Bleed
< 1371670866 552613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks
< 1371670932 803466 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medical stapler http://youtu.be/baNBRs_Wafs
< 1371670940 845036 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :while drunk
< 1371670978 69884 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Haiers Medical-Circular Stapler For Rectal Prolapse And Hemorrhoids.wmv” /me refrains from clicking
< 1371671007 314661 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice
< 1371671061 22896 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, i’m pretty happy about it.
< 1371671434 825949 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1371672637 538461 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn trrndn
< 1371672735 731692 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I do live in F/A/A, yes.
< 1371672746 596011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally called it
< 1371672816 881021 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : Once I start a business I might release some information on internet, such as telephone
< 1371672824 800121 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this business up and running?
< 1371672830 324157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he's not here.
< 1371672898 979377 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371672947 276171 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Tritonio
< 1371672949 446763 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tritonio: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371672975 761939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to know about zzo38's business as well
< 1371672987 61615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzology
< 1371673034 33377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: given that it's zzo38, that line does not imply that he's planning to start a business
< 1371673039 870878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that, if he did, that's what he might do afterwars
< 1371673042 738040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*afterwards
< 1371673048 569981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1371673316 920199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes kmc
< 1371673322 757168 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8517
< 1371673335 502095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocks
< 1371673371 765244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :always with the cocks
< 1371673394 286498 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, kmc was well quoted
< 1371673413 64752 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you couldn't have those in (sub)urban areas
< 1371673484 456094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregoooooooor
< 1371673487 706850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix your encoding header
< 1371673519 88409 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pokémon theme
< 1371673542 96954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well IRC doesn't have a sane encoding
< 1371673551 524031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but this channel uses UTF-8 by convention
< 1371673556 188036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the default is "UTF-8 if the line happens to be UTF-8, otherwise Latin-1"
< 1371673569 209047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a bad default
< 1371673583 825468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-8 is the good default
< 1371673587 901635 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: was that UTF-8 or Latin-1?
< 1371673592 673480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :op campaign: I would kick anyone who didn't use utf-8 except oklopol
< 1371673601 275241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no code but unicode and utf-8 is its transport
< 1371673601 498619 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 is good
< 1371673607 158771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :㑖
< 1371673615 323861 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't know what i use
< 1371673622 494142 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫ domain name system ♫
< 1371673631 552978 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫
< 1371673632 633013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo é | iconv -t iso8859-1
< 1371673634 257928 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​�
< 1371673644 803378 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok good I'm in utf-8
< 1371673647 237079 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed my irc client because i just couldn't get mirc to work, but i doubt i'm using utf8 now either
< 1371673649 629318 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :�
< 1371673653 587583 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I saw
< 1371673657 45499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unterbrechung während des Betriebssystemaufrufs
< 1371673657 269257 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A question thing
< 1371673657 489821 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to work = to use utf8
< 1371673670 855853 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tmux doesn't do iso8859-1
< 1371673680 685697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so far you are, but only the lowest 128 codepoints hth
< 1371673683 989352 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wait isn't kmc the guy who runs that one pizza shop and night club and used to be a programmer"
< 1371673693 400589 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :joo jöö
< 1371673700 296831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Betriebssystemaufrufs" is kind of an awesome word for "syscall"
< 1371673708 289201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i bet actual german haxors just say "die Syscall"
< 1371673715 487993 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :German has wonderful words
< 1371673748 126279 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rindfleischetikettierungsuberwachungsaufgabenubertragungsgesetz!
< 1371673812 434095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gesundheit
< 1371673887 405348 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : " on a related idea. i had this idea of a game of life sort of thing which makes connected clusters of dots have a mass and hence a gravity and to affect each other" <<< can i steal this idea and try to do something cool with it next week?
< 1371673894 393739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beef something
< 1371673900 742480 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's where that idea came from
< 1371673905 21799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft
< 1371673916 439475 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes bike
< 1371673920 736421 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we almost wrote an article on that :P
< 1371673922 708406 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28416
< 1371673922 929313 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna see if the encoding fixed on this somehow.
< 1371673929 122129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnnnnope
< 1371673964 373943 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does ^B make it download
< 1371673985 390324 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we made a CA where there's a special state * such that if there are finitely many * then they group together)
< 1371674006 45759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hmm, interesting
< 1371674008 737681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really a CA any more
< 1371674013 722267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely some sort of automaton, though
< 1371674029 109307 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my definition of a CA is that it's shift-commuting and continuous
< 1371674043 338996 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a property that a CA may or may not have
< 1371674046 225311 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a new definition
< 1371674078 579840 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we found a CA with such a property, a CA such that one of the states has this curious property
< 1371674084 993573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Bike
< 1371674089 399689 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it simple?
< 1371674090 168766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5095
< 1371674094 727016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the rule?
< 1371674099 840521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was the multiocular O of countries?
< 1371674101 485045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh, right
< 1371674104 227621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, liechtenstein
< 1371674107 691747 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very simple if the configuration is 0-finite
< 1371674110 402948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I thought you had a CA where if you had consecutive * on the tape
< 1371674116 845413 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(has a finite amount of non-0 cells)
< 1371674118 330068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them just vanished, shrinking the tape to match
< 1371674155 593159 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have states 0, 1 and *, and 1's spread left and down, forming a quarterplane full of 1s, and the *s move northeast on it
< 1371674161 285542 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za QUIT :Quit: too cold to function
< 1371674166 513611 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they reach the northeast corner and then they are grouped
< 1371674181 563812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 2-D CA?
< 1371674187 458658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume 1D unless someone states otherwise
< 1371674194 60195 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this can be cheated to not work if there's an infinite amount of 1
< 1371674195 879778 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sorry
< 1371674207 999295 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's strictly easier in 1d
< 1371674213 524123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i assume the opposite
< 1371674214 606265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that works much the same in any number of dimensions
< 1371674221 584143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I even made a 1D Sokoban
< 1371674236 374201 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of our stuff is in 1d, but this one was kind of boring in 1d
< 1371674239 297974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically because the Enigma advertised them as an April Fool's joke, so I thought I'd make one
< 1371674240 507282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sounds really easy
< 1371674245 586117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well it had a bunch of teleporters
< 1371674257 512578 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if it's very interesting in 2d either, and i don't think we'll even try to publish it
< 1371674257 735458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that opened and closed on a timer so you could choose not to use them if you wanted to
< 1371674282 803376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371674289 604920 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it interesting
< 1371674320 962344 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1371674362 742218 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what happens to the * that are northeast of all 1s?
< 1371674377 318353 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 1s start spreading from them
< 1371674381 438040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would a CA look like that was on Sierpinski carpet
< 1371674385 546501 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that even work
< 1371674393 658407 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/carpet/triangle/
< 1371674408 291877 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371674431 640578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: those are some of the most common patterns for random CAs to generate, beyond the boring ones
< 1371674445 113164 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I mean on one
< 1371674446 1978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get sierpinski in life easily
< 1371674451 397699 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of on a plane or line
< 1371674517 331419 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" there's a local rule that tells you what changes are legal. now, to every sequence s in {"E", "U"}^N partitions S^Z we get a subset of points from which the game goes on forever, say for EUEUEUEU... this means from x, for some choice of new cell values by E, for any choice of any cell by U, for some choice of..."
< 1371674517 959446 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm
< 1371674526 204415 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like our newest article
< 1371674572 124544 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this an actual log for one day of ircing or is this a collection of stuff that SHAPED MY LIFE
< 1371674614 495214 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually turned out that the sequence where the game goes on forever is itself a sofic shift if you start with one
< 1371674617 972832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  is this an actual log for one day of ircing or is this a collection of stuff that SHAPED MY LIFE
< 1371674622 107160 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1055)  is this an actual log for one day of ircing or is this a collection of stuff that SHAPED MY LIFE
< 1371674625 57442 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is cool
< 1371674630 734148 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you care about sofic shifts
< 1371674645 929435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great to find out that oklopol is sad enough that his entire life is contained in statements about cellular automata from one single day!!!!
< 1371674653 815763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day you'll run out of stuff from that log
< 1371674656 651344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'll have no ideas ever again
< 1371674667 434852 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i also started smoking that day
< 1371674804 703372 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you still smoke? I hear that stuff's bad for you
< 1371674841 242734 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes
< 1371674842 222679 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you smoke
< 1371674851 18247 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you know tobacco
< 1371675037 547052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes oklopol
< 1371675043 261984 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10951
< 1371675067 389857 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol suddenly i start proving theorems of basic topology
< 1371675085 736285 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed
< 1371675129 778577 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : clue is a language for beauty, not usefulness   or ability to run at all   ability to run at all is not even close to a design goal, no
< 1371675134 337514 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a better clue
< 1371675135 882711 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm clue
< 1371675246 680346 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :  (for instance all metric spaces are hausdorff and all bounded metric spaces are compact) <-- BZZZT WRONG. *complete, totally bounded
< 1371675250 86746 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ownd
< 1371675419 802418 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally finished
< 1371675655 108494 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of these textbooks should i read next? Types and Programming Languages, Syntax and Semantics of Programming Languages, An Introduction to Database Systems, AI: A Modern Approach, Introduction to Automata Theory, Basic Category Theory for Computer Scientists, Virtual Machines
< 1371675675 30855 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :three men in a boat
< 1371675690 64517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs `^_^v
< 1371675694 755221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TaPL and Programming Languages
< 1371675695 801409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of those i've only read TaPL but it's good so, TaPL
< 1371675702 570916 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :star smashers of the galaxy rangers
< 1371675705 145106 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17514
< 1371675777 810854 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371676361 237336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs \`\^\_\`\v
< 1371676375 34493 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29447
< 1371676422 956281 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont escape me bro
< 1371676465 320038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs [`]\^[_]\^[v]
< 1371676479 394943 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.6438
< 1371676512 855226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it worked
< 1371676553 210720 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Phantom_Hoover awaken `^_^v 
< 1371677078 33135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/wikipedia-users-surprised-nobodys-made-page-for-jo,31815/
< 1371677244 608372 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo
< 1371677268 655228 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the FUCK Gregor doesn't have VOICE
< 1371677303 197844 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Gregor
> 1371677303 233852 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371678435 363023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't me that time
< 1371678440 284539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know woh it was though
< 1371678442 531195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*who
< 1371678453 232192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I have a sequence that starts 1, 3, 6, and the next element is at least 10
< 1371678473 929783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it isn't the triangular numbers, because I have a lower bound on it that's O(2^(n/2))
< 1371678981 427697 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1 3 6
< 1371678987 30822 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1371678990 690524 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Triangular numbers: a(n) = C(n+1,2) = n(n+1)/2 = 0+1+2+...+n.[0,1,3,6,10,15,...
< 1371679015 238082 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good effort.
< 1371679038 400636 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, http://oeis.org/A006128?
< 1371679048 234613 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/A003945?
< 1371679059 751613 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/A005043?
< 1371679062 968099 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that first one sure doesn't look exponential.
< 1371679072 961118 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm
< 1371679084 54634 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely someone's written a better oeis search tool by now
< 1371679087 932168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I have a lower bound of 20 on the fifth element too
< 1371679108 411361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's bounded above by 2^n-1, and by 2^n-2 for all the elements but the first two
< 1371679152 398747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not 5043, that breaks the upper bound
< 1371679345 749326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite an annoying problem to determine elements, I was thinking about it in my head for hours last night
< 1371679356 998988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should write a computer program to brute-force the first few elements
< 1371679366 695497 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1371679367 940151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it
< 1371679381 199009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically, you want to construct a directed graph
< 1371679390 322060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where each vertex has two edges going out from it
< 1371679413 6240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where you can get from any vertex to any other vertex, going only forwards along edges, in n steps
< 1371679432 262487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the question is, what's the largest number of vertices you can have in such a graph, for a given n
< 1371679437 111060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously if n=0 you can only have one vertex
< 1371679437 292475 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n being a property of the graph?
< 1371679443 685036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, n is given
< 1371679461 41234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to find the largest graph such that you can get from any vertex to any other vertex along a path of length n
< 1371679469 660757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where each vertex only has two edges leaving it
< 1371679470 362920 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371679483 795991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for n=1, you can have three vertices, joined in both directions in a triangle
< 1371679535 755877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for n=2, you have ABCADADFCFEBED = six vertices
< 1371679544 383705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(7 can be proved impossible)
< 1371679600 123810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for n=3, the best I've found is ABCDEAFAFJEJIDIHCHGBGF
< 1371679600 387626 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_diameter_problem ?
< 1371679601 248763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what about eight
< 1371679620 703157 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't mention direcctedness, though.
< 1371679643 916353 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371679649 23228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well 7 being impossible doesn't imply 8 being impossible, but you can label each edge as being A or B so that one A-edge and one B-edge comes from each vertex
< 1371679664 127047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then from any given vertex there are only 7 possible paths: (no movement), A, B, AA, AB, BA, BB
< 1371679670 423558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first leads to the vertex itself
< 1371679674 315904 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how graph theory has so many stupid words that there's a "glossary of graph theory" wikipedia article.
< 1371679676 655001 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there can be at most 6 other vertices
< 1371679679 716885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric := 8+ is impossible
< 1371679768 699918 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think finding wikipedia articles may be the most useful skill i have
< 1371679791 607275 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why is 7 impossible?
< 1371679809 143335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OK, so imagine you have a solution to 7
< 1371679817 386291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pick any vertex, it doesn't matter which
< 1371679827 19360 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_the_largest_known_graphs_of_a_given_diameter_and_maximal_degree implies that this is a pretty hard problem
< 1371679831 942628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your 6 other vertices are reachable via A, B, AA, AB, BA, BB
< 1371679848 624691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, consider the paths from A to the other vertices
< 1371679850 444119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. a problem nobody cares about.
< 1371679884 983403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, AA and AB are the directly reachable vertices, so the other four (B, BA, BB, and 0) must be AAA, AAB, ABA, ABB in some order
< 1371679900 340852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like graphs and numbers and shit you might like http://adventure.cueup.com ? or maybe not, whatever. it's all right
< 1371679904 773078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without loss of generality assume that AAA = 0
< 1371679938 77237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now AAB can't be B or you'd have AAAB = AAB, which means you can't reach all 7 vertices from AA
< 1371679969 205215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if ABA or ABB is B, then you're stuck with the other one being either BA or BB, which gives a similar contradiction
< 1371679997 343462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm…  for n=3, the best I've found is ABCDEAFAFJEJIDIHCHGBGF ← the eodermdrome representation of graphs is surprisingly useful
< 1371680068 678974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you do arbitrary directed graphs in eodermdrome representation? 
< 1371680084 977702 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371680128 849217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can't
< 1371680129 30914 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371680133 259388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw.
< 1371680140 83450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it works for any graph where any vertex is accessible from any of the others
< 1371680142 102129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or any but one)
< 1371680145 269396 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371680178 734422 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://inkfish.fieldofscience.com/2013/06/moths-wait-until-bats-lock-on-then-jam.html "Moths Wait until Bats Lock On, Then Jam Their Sonar"
< 1371680185 43517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt that mean "strongly connected" ais523 
< 1371680195 671176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm starting to think i could formulate a cheeky aphorism. anything humans have done, animals have evolved at some point
< 1371680203 905179 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except wheels
< 1371680204 384233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not sure how strongly connected works with directed graphs, but probably
< 1371680214 942927 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: flagella!!
< 1371680218 733826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of
< 1371680225 210801 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1371680229 895481 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :its either strongly or weakly
< 1371680234 539705 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot the difference
< 1371680241 531120 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its on the digraph wiki page
< 1371680262 887973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A directed graph is called strongly connected if there is a path from each vertex in the graph to every other vertex." (I had it open.)
< 1371680268 226616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For obvious reasons.)
< 1371680288 522813 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does weakly connected mean?   Oh, I guess for an undirected graph, the two are the same?
< 1371680289 680344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what abour irc
< 1371680291 770984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :t
< 1371680298 449429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: The underlying undirected graph is connected.
< 1371680306 67617 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371680319 307016 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh
< 1371680337 626927 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "tournament" means "the underlying undirected graph is complete" iirc
< 1371680342 23708 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mycorrhizal networks hth
< 1371680370 694735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what about biologists
< 1371680371 874794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371680373 698776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too awful to evolve
< 1371680385 73414 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's a weird definition. with the graph A -> B <- C, A and C are not connected at all and yet the graph would be weakly connected?
< 1371680392 344460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :found another mushroom in my yard
< 1371680399 621397 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it on #esoteric
< 1371680400 158453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#drugz
< 1371680406 395198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: See, there's still lines between them.
< 1371680412 143247 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok
< 1371680412 700494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: exactly
< 1371680415 416499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know what kind it is yet
< 1371680416 395585 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371680419 438488 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw my dorms apparently don't disallow growing things in your dorm
< 1371680425 488846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably not drugz kind
< 1371680431 539377 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid microphone button
< 1371680436 866786 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not specifically mentioned so totally safe
< 1371680437 105947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CA has a much better climate for finding those
< 1371680440 609273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha
< 1371680449 799508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kind of curious what they'd do if i set up a cannabis farm or something
< 1371680450 754959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're in WA so............................
< 1371680451 679332 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my first intuition would have been "for every unordered pair, there exists a path from one of the two vertices to the other"
< 1371680452 995094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1371680453 330230 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i was an agsci student
< 1371680470 199651 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brb, hotboxing the greenhouse"
< 1371680473 379396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do it; take photos; report back
< 1371680508 471479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean what have you got to lose except your career as a biologist
< 1371680516 182933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only gain!
< 1371680523 185363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're making the weed plants smoke weed?? that's cruel
< 1371680534 158661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Apparently, according to some people[weasel words], that's what it means for a digraph to be just plain "connected".
< 1371680535 87707 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so with my definition A -> B -> C would be weakly connected but A -> B <- C would not
< 1371680536 880339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannabisalism
< 1371680547 255350 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i could just like, walk out into the palouse, find an empty area, plant some hemp
< 1371680547 561819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :give weed lsd #whoa #drugz
< 1371680550 315137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: (According to some other people, "connected" digraph just means "strongly connected".)
< 1371680550 638598 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how farming works, right
< 1371680564 868668 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what's weird with math
< 1371680581 377982 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"integers" means "natural integers"
< 1371680587 54529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i've heard rumors of growing psychedelic mushrooms in soil with various chemicals to get them to produce variants on psilocin / psilocybin
< 1371680589 383895 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some ag students are already doing this and i should just get in on their ring.
< 1371680589 696230 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so relative integers are not integers
< 1371680593 660924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think it's really a thing
< 1371680596 337490 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weakly connected graphs are not connected graphs
< 1371680598 785369 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that sounds impossible but cool.
< 1371680606 219815 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a blue car is not a car
< 1371680616 162714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this is your mushrooms, this is your mushrooms on drugs, etc.
< 1371680616 920419 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are he as we are he and we are all together
< 1371680618 401924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I stopped paying attention for a while and there are all these new designer drugs I've never heard of
< 1371680625 243257 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a blue ray is not a ray, ok
< 1371680628 945551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :designer drugs on the drugs catwalk
< 1371680630 285125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :25I-NBOMe? JWH-122? LSZ? come on. kids these days.
< 1371680632 204126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :latest 2013 drug fashion
< 1371680642 293679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jehovah-122
< 1371680650 545964 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't that the plot to Robocop
< 1371680660 331398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_2,4-dimethylazetidide 'distributed on blotter paper or in liquid solution under names such as "diazedine" and "λ"'
< 1371680661 318251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long until they find EVERY drug
< 1371680670 242676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha "λ"
< 1371680674 982873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a long time, there are only a few labs working on it
< 1371680676 905281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you i'm naming my drug a greek letter
< 1371680688 55838 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do drugs support unicode, important question
< 1371680695 11891 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, i'm going to have to do organic chemical nomenclature
< 1371680698 958686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I think the Nichols lab at Purdue has been involved with most new psychedelics this decade
< 1371680700 734656 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott you can have all my stuff when i die
< 1371680702 74124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so what's this new drug called" "well uh... do you know greek"
< 1371680708 35982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Shulgin was involved with most of the new ones in the previous few decades
< 1371680709 98223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: thx, i'll come to your funeral
< 1371680713 61440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: and throw out the biologist crap
< 1371680722 80676 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot twist: it's all biologist crap
< 1371680724 980584 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm typing this on bark
< 1371680739 254718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't co-opt bark, it would exist with or without filthy biologists!!
< 1371680748 658527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: phd in drugz
< 1371680753 879906 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was developed as a rigid analogue of LSD with the diethylamide group constrained into an azetidine ring in order to map the binding site at the 5-HT2A receptor" hm yes, those are words
< 1371680756 703532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --drugz 10
< 1371680759 772616 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: drugz
< 1371680763 66095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw.
< 1371680771 700143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed the LSZ article doesn't tell you what it's like
< 1371680775 496397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe erowid does
< 1371680782 584978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, why does the wikipedia article finger a specific guy
< 1371680785 474410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("25I-NBOMe? JWH-122? LSZ?" <- that's exactly the sort of thing that'd come out of `words.)
< 1371680786 767930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably a lot of really interesting undiscovered ones, an example is that there's one known 5HT psychedelic that has a strong effect on perception of sound and music
< 1371680791 758308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words
< 1371680795 104574 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cylar
< 1371680802 558677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can't trust him
< 1371680804 504729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cylar is so a street name for a drug.
< 1371680807 428877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I disagree
< 1371680814 943257 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's the missile silo guy.
< 1371680815 191898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, my first reaction was "isn't that a real word?"
< 1371680820 246553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think it is
< 1371680821 719813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words
< 1371680822 275423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :man erowid is so #drugz
< 1371680825 10161 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :jute
< 1371680831 848857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the most #drugz thing ever to exist
< 1371680832 328539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: in that it's a large website entirely about drugs? yes
< 1371680835 161958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't it used to output more than one word at a time?
< 1371680836 663068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words
< 1371680839 81781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I mean the sort of thing that'd come out of `words --dataset with a proper dataset.
< 1371680839 793272 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprologie
< 1371680841 542255 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1371680841 999195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erowid trip reports are great
< 1371680842 181354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 10
< 1371680843 535825 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: see, that's pretty drugz
< 1371680844 938546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right
< 1371680845 320347 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :beth cnuough stershmen appar brah gen ord troprie pervic evo
< 1371680851 362190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought 10 was the default, though.
< 1371680855 89913 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet i could get a career in neuroethological psychopharmacology
< 1371680860 676362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 4294967926
< 1371680862 318823 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just made up the term because that's how i roll)
< 1371680864 61216 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :catn cept geterley salogieio son lemede roher pea ire bula ring city sciterce castcr dige wingma man crovitam clesoleosop beli cused praharia aburo oui diagent
< 1371680874 430418 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse engineer the endocanniboid system or w/e
< 1371680874 612210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neuropharmacy
< 1371680876 214588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they range from the people who obsessively check their bp and pulse every 5 minutes, to the people who are just like "i ate some pills i found on the ground and it was fun!!!!!!!!!"
< 1371680879 804477 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably exists
< 1371680888 47901 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neuropharmacology exists, yeah
< 1371680907 890869 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke about pharmacology is, well, do you know how drugs (not just drugz) are developed
< 1371680909 663812 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i once saw a link to this trip report on erowid which was for some completely stupid mundane non-drugz thing and it was hilarious
< 1371680915 883056 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've forgotten all about it so i can't properly convey it
< 1371680916 431527 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there are quite a few real words in those 4294967296
< 1371680933 271935 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371680935 66735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this LSZ is pretty intense. oh before the comeup I had 20 bonghits and a glass of ayahuasca juice, just my morning ritual"
< 1371680937 822430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "clesoleosop", which probably isn't
< 1371680939 734080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4294967296 is smaller than i remember
< 1371680963 58862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :4294967296 is almost exactly the same as 25 these days.
< 1371680973 851691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("print generate for 1..min(25, int($ARGV[0]||1));")
< 1371680999 30968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371681002 974371 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they don't call drug development "irrational drug design". disappointing
< 1371681009 640037 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: what is a relative integer
< 1371681012 94963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Historically, drugs were discovered through identifying the active ingredient from traditional remedies or by serendipitous discovery. " like
< 1371681013 836787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually tested a couple of terminals for integer overflow recently
< 1371681015 115794 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how great is that?
< 1371681029 240110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to come up with a terminal version of CSS hacks
< 1371681039 611433 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Currently, the research and development cost of each new molecular entity (NME) is approximately US$1.8 billion" uh. oh.
< 1371681049 789092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=32073
< 1371681053 998594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1.8 billion for a drugz: worth it
< 1371681054 547210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one interesting one I discovered was that if you stack 11 or more SGR commands together on DOSBox, it treats it as an SGR 0
< 1371681077 426826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you enjoy doing terrible things to terminals, you should talk to KeithW in #mosh
< 1371681078 986271 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "ok so what have we got" "it cures cancer, if you've had a kidney removed and are bonghitting"
< 1371681104 679573 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok but does it get me high
< 1371681107 979407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I've been doing more terrible things than that
< 1371681127 234403 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you tried *lifts*
< 1371681141 915001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nobody could get me to put the pants I brought with back on, so she asked me what I wanted to wear. Apparently I told her that I needed a kilt and bullhorns... I was taught a song to keep singing when I forgot that I required clothes... 'Got to keep your clothes on' with a little tune. I could still sing it right now if I wanted to, even though I don't remember learning it. "
< 1371681151 969630 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "ingested a few beers"
< 1371681154 783928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like this, for instance: http://nethack4.org/media/charset.vt100 http://nethack4.org/media/colors.vt100
< 1371681191 573976 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the numbers in red in your income
< 1371681213 14927 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-time stops here-"
< 1371681232 993241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that bold-black-on-black is visible
< 1371681242 854811 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this is amazing
< 1371681277 722105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the crazy bit is the "polyglot" section
< 1371681286 282610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, the Unicode one is broken on tmux
< 1371681397 246225 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i've got to find a way to cite this at some point in my life
< 1371681451 717974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not 100% sure convinced that 3C-P exists
< 1371681474 647470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this guy seems to live on a diet of drugz
< 1371681741 412346 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371682143 537650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd quote the "Moomins on Torrelorca" comic strip at this point -- it's very drugz -- but the copy I have is in Finnish, and the original is in Swedish, and I don't know if it exists at all in English.
< 1371682171 379856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you unable to translate finnish to english
< 1371682179 927728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371682197 332821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a nutshell, they have this new designer drug called "LBJ".
< 1371682198 567539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP
< 1371682200 42694 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371682209 212084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you get your speech recognition software to do it for you
< 1371682219 415225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'd have to read it out loud.
< 1371682230 581372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've actually tried watching YouTube set to run its speech recognition output through google translate
< 1371682245 858328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worrying thing is, the results occasionally make it possible to figure out what people are saying
< 1371682264 284664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That
< 1371682264 971198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha
< 1371682267 765251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's worrying? 
< 1371682283 308523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes
< 1371682309 977582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie
< 1371682311 696229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hate to break it to you
< 1371682316 33714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people don't expect speech recognition to work
< 1371682347 477097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: since when are there moomins comic strips.............
< 1371682349 509137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I expect speech recognition to sort-of work, and mechanical translation to sort-of work
< 1371682367 701395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect either to work well enough that you can plug the output of one into the input of the other and have the result be vaguely intelligible sometimes
< 1371682382 253038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Since 1954.
< 1371682397 197490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: (From 1954 to 1975, to be more exact.)
< 1371682417 741552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin_comic_strips has English/Finnish/Swedish/Hebrew.
< 1371682419 87447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I think the Finnish versions date to the 1980s or so.
< 1371682433 277372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why the moomins were popular in .il?
< 1371682462 413092 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371682473 66596 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=350 drugz
< 1371682499 634192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The main series of Moomin comic strips were made directly for the British market: they were spread by the British Associated Newspapers comic strip syndicate and the original publisher was the Evening News newspaper. The series originally appeared in newspapers from 1954–1975."  Huh, maybe they do exist in English too.
< 1371682542 105590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes ais523
< 1371682548 3821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.26685
< 1371682566 328490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've, like, seen moomins
< 1371682567 104655 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff
< 1371682619 686426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand they also are sort of big in .jp or something.
< 1371682632 898213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or were at some point, or something.
< 1371682661 654670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a Moomin shop at the Helsinki-Vantaa airport.)
< 1371682690 359900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Moomin Boom has been criticized for commercializing the Moomins. Friends of Tove Jansson and many old Moomin enthusiasts have stressed that the animations banalize the original and philosophical Moomin world to harmless family entertainment."
< 1371682697 356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a sad.
< 1371682777 321500 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is moominlady dead
< 1371682794 563852 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.oddballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/scary-gas-mask-bong.jpg kmc's true form.
< 1371682807 322165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371682809 345947 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1371682814 662277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha
< 1371682824 953201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college we had a bong made from a 5L lab glass flask
< 1371682840 37101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had an aquarium pump so it could smoke itself
< 1371682844 467773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pump was powerd by firewire
< 1371682852 578516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that guy is wearing an ICP shirt..................................................
< 1371682855 729220 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tove_Jansson_1956.jpg
< 1371682857 441100 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this
< 1371682864 401679 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not a woman i can see writing the moomins
< 1371682884 233553 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371682935 321133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :She also lived with another lady (shock) (horror), as I recall.
< 1371682970 203248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't any household which has at least three people in it have two or more people of the same gender living together?
< 1371682986 110185 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but the point is, gay
< 1371683005 595363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm sure you could argue about non-binary gender flab flab etc etc.
< 1371683015 421272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, you could
< 1371683023 469082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly a large proportion do, though
< 1371683028 207355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-binary gender exists but is rare
< 1371683034 968425 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly she looks like some schoolmistress
< 1371683047 770433 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the moomins are being forced upon the children
< 1371683055 137935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-252-29.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371683063 40310 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1371683078 73965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.lambiek.net/artists/image/j/jansson_t/janssons_tove_under.jpg  more like your imaginanation? 
< 1371683087 115787 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, very
< 1371683104 348158 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a radish on her desk
< 1371683151 445969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hyacinth, I think.
< 1371683170 293647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean the flower.
< 1371683202 945017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very common christmas decoration, done up exactly like that, in Finland; perhaps in Sweden too. Presumably for some sensible and good reason.
< 1371683234 88515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what temperature is it in finland
< 1371683240 717468 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eleven
< 1371683256 666464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK
< 1371683263 344015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not metar
< 1371683266 701692 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily..................
< 1371683269 5918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully metasepia isn't here
< 1371683277 797534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like metarsepia amirite.
< 1371683287 696508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good.........
< 1371683289 672675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to add Finland to my weather indicator
< 1371683293 159425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it crashed
< 1371683310 325085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was protecting you
< 1371683311 872841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and protecting itself
< 1371683327 758294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been quite warm (as in, 20 °C highs) lately.
< 1371683343 447955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://outside.aalto.fi/ <- best weather information for Finland.
< 1371683352 499603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's the thing maintained by the IT people at the university.)
< 1371683353 312527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is finland as much of a shithole as literally everything i've heard about it makes it sound
< 1371683376 469584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :harsh
< 1371683389 992322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helsinki seems nice, although very expensive
< 1371683393 602975 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not sweden, elliott
< 1371683398 37175 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you not love it
< 1371683398 217164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey man i live in hexham
< 1371683400 454039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "allowed"
< 1371683456 116887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 682
< 1371683457 76525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of dark (like, the way it is in a hole) at wintertime.
< 1371683457 832222 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :682)  oh right: Frooxius, you wouldn't happen to live in Hexham, would you?   No, sorry.   phew   How about Finland?   Why would I live there?   That's a *very* good question.   Why would anyone?
< 1371683477 647314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, it's kind of light at summertime.
< 1371683492 826978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also, you probably don't want to buy helsinki
< 1371683496 30427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't matter how expensive it is
< 1371683501 650679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1371683506 270714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sunrise in Lieksa, where we're going to visit soonishly, is at around 02:50am or something like that, this time of the year.
< 1371683509 708113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is the part where you say elliott.ais523.moed++ or however it goes)
< 1371683631 654095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: when I flew home from Canada to the UK, the plane took a detour north to avoid the Icelandic volcano
< 1371683659 830899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the result was that the sun changed its mind mid-set, and started rising again
< 1371683699 955486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not allowed to say "the icelandic volcano"
< 1371683704 579146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to make your best attempt to spell it
< 1371683706 401575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the rules
< 1371683731 266198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like in that one xkcd what-if.
< 1371683751 613295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In re sunsets, that is.
< 1371683763 940903 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyjafjallajokul?
< 1371683786 332066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good approximation
< 1371683786 683425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyjaffacake
< 1371683789 95047 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit
< 1371683794 350732 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eyeracarfokarul
< 1371683799 290498 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for that last l being doubled i got it right
< 1371683804 711200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um you missed the accents
< 1371683806 426396 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you god
< 1371683815 962001 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. god status revoked
< 1371683826 546950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, jokull and jökull are quite different.
< 1371683831 276179 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :accents are basically just punctuation though
< 1371683843 175379 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: i'm on windows so no compose key
< 1371683843 356441 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what they say about punctuation
< 1371683854 681215 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i had to help my uncle Jack off a horse"
< 1371683882 733846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not punctuation, that's capitalization
< 1371683883 565789 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371683955 296462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true it would be pretty awful if people thought your uncle needed help to get down from a horse
< 1371683958 785436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy
< 1371683964 79363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"incompetent uncle"
< 1371683977 799757 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, nobody says jack off to mean masturbation in the uk hth
< 1371683989 566558 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fucking freaks
< 1371684064 745347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I suspect at least one person does
< 1371684096 13038 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ais
< 1371684111 253939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you knew me better, I wouldn't even have to write the reply
< 1371684121 167780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you could just have assumed I'd say it, and saved me the trouble of typing it
< 1371684137 236715 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah?? well, i suspect two people do!
< 1371684146 917957 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least.
< 1371684155 121479 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :census time
< 1371684427 95601 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1371685781 367230 :Tritonio!~Tritonio@cust-208-22.on5.ontelecoms.gr QUIT :Quit: Leaving
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< 1371685798 391511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory: all new non-eso programming languages should reserve a few keywords with general programmy sorts of names
< 1371685804 919079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they can use them for new syntax without causing clashes
< 1371685985 593178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:48 < mm_freak> the rubik's cube group is a theory of documents and patches
< 1371686005 852551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :
< 1371686011 94696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it seems like you're experiencing half of the #haskell people anyway
< 1371686013 637452 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not join #haskell
< 1371686024 145142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a compelling argument
< 1371686051 575806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessss i'm getting through to him
< 1371686098 434368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how about after a month we op you for 10 seconds and in those 10 seconds you get to ban whoever you want
< 1371686101 736658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ritual
< 1371686133 277940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you are found to have compiled a list of commands to run beforehand you get beheaded
< 1371686148 480857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to be on drugz
< 1371686152 307372 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if he just clears users.
< 1371686162 605241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he becomes king
< 1371686301 42684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm in favour of you joining #haskell and making chaos out of chaos
< 1371686467 508100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really should know better than to get involved in Git Vs Darcs
< 1371686469 860863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even care really
< 1371686530 904888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you seriously in a channel where there are people who like darcs
< 1371686535 41136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on you're practically in #haskell already
< 1371686551 544066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371686598 273444 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371686620 25126 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371686798 787056 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What of non-eso languages that by their nature don't have keywords?
< 1371686862 323337 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371686937 43586 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo
< 1371686959 349054 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl and Rebol don't count as esolangs I think
< 1371686965 230001 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371687460 322736 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371687508 813458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm but they're talked about so much in #esoteric...
< 1371687540 822352 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is Haskell
< 1371687550 978932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy
< 1371687554 78681 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf
< 1371687555 618418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371687556 238280 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably more than Tcl and Rebol combined
< 1371687583 137923 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows haskell is JUST PLAIN WEIRD AND CRAZY and only for special people -gags & vomit-
< 1371687597 621793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: am i special
< 1371687606 731850 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is special, shachaf
< 1371687622 238274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is haskell for everyone
< 1371687704 458222 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371687721 667899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even for photographers.............................
< 1371687751 173732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should make a version of MS-DOS which runs on a cluster of computers
< 1371687782 214985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for it

< 1371687786 212023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey i thought of another great reason you should be in #haskell
< 1371687794 948659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :waits for what
< 1371687795 994237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh "distributed DOS"
< 1371687799 30374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371687804 536587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you don't use (#)haskell but you still go on about it a lot
< 1371687808 364072 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect demographic fit
< 1371687811 310670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371687813 716028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that much really
< 1371687818 879553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people keep bringing it up here.............................
< 1371687825 665924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think how much more you could complain about #haskell if you were in it
< 1371687832 233888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you wouldn't seem bitter because it'd be present tense!
< 1371687891 212994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc could seem bitter while handing out candy
< 1371687891 430639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's a talent" hth
< 1371687891 430846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
< 1371687894 875133 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371687901 96445 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1371687901 277761 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371687913 501415 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf
< 1371687927 592349 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by candy do you mean drugz
< 1371687935 327339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna get me some of kmc's "candy"
< 1371687945 939447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain candy
< 1371687973 570156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you gotta move to ca to have kmc be your dealer
< 1371687977 205838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did i mention caleskell is gone.......
< 1371687991 94140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he doesn't do interstate commerce
< 1371688006 193329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is everything is interstate commerce)
< 1371688006 923548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :attn kmc and/or other californians
< 1371688008 882840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:26:03  http://www.california-roleplay.org/
< 1371688041 721396 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew
< 1371688053 654270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:26:03 -!- badzavrza [~badzavrza@178-221-29-105.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.))]
< 1371688053 836594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how my connection dropped for 10 seconds after pasting that first line
< 1371688066 529001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only kmc was in #haskell so he'd hear about california roleplay 1st hand
< 1371688085 909729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you know augustss has been in #haskell recently........
< 1371688088 220518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of croatian people pretending to be in california???
< 1371688090 362020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: cool
< 1371688093 725013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:26 -!- badzavrza [~badzavrza@178-221-29-105.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.))]
< 1371688099 293628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1371688114 296592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair elliott's timestamp is wrong
< 1371688129 235651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not as kool as kmc.......
< 1371688153 363344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to think of three words starting with k that i could use to describe kmc's hypothetical haskell presence in haskell so i can turn them into an acronym
< 1371688174 726541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fix the words
< 1371688182 982159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw important question...........
< 1371688193 171578 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :LRk
< 1371688193 391097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something like /usr/share/dict/words except with "lots of good metadata" about the words
< 1371688197 193115 :LRk!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur
< 1371688199 533076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not afaik
< 1371688207 764486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn metadata
< 1371688209 523021 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "metadata" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1371688209 704501 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :metadata
< 1371688209 704674 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: data about data; "a library catalog is metadata because it
< 1371688209 704823 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :         describes publications"
< 1371688210 915284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like adjective/verb/whatever, tense/whatever, number of syllables, stress, ........
< 1371688215 394884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wordnet
< 1371688216 568945 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what i mean
< 1371688222 450007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that
< 1371688226 366590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :easily searchable
< 1371688232 4693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a command line wordnet tool
< 1371688356 164607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :command lion
< 1371688358 615542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"roar"
< 1371688461 248742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look! At the picture. See! The skull. The part of bone removed. The master race Frankenstein radio controls.
< 1371688506 487846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:31:16 --- join: fwe (~ssjsj@31.205.67.235) joined #haskell
< 1371688516 649864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:31:18   i was in project that was failing and as a result got my probation period extended. they said my programming skills were not that good.
< 1371688519 674930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however an expert programmer was brought in and the project is still failing. the project manager and i had had an argument and that is why he tried to sabotage me. do you feel the boss knows the truth now?
< 1371688523 659316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: look what you're missing!!!
< 1371688547 637142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371688585 479606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if only we had more ops on their toes, ready to ban the trolls etc
< 1371688609 873887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosh's messing up all the lines with this terminal is so awful that i copied that from the tunes logs.........
< 1371688613 531641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo rewrite mosh in haskell
< 1371688634 123321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo rewrite haskell in mosh
< 1371688636 137540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1371688642 73931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: now we're talking about php help
< 1371688657 998157 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Pot-o-Gold.aspx  I saw this the other day
< 1371688663 914997 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"type conversion in PHP"
< 1371688665 280988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you really think the "##crypto experience" is better than "the #haskell" experience
< 1371688703 833937 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of aim heckers in #haskell, if you know what i mean
< 1371688710 900372 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean that people complain about php in #haskell a lot)
< 1371688723 866079 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: haha great
< 1371688941 242441 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371689080 846430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also monochrom said he misses you once
< 1371689101 94982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's not a good reason to join #haskell (alt. any channel monochrom is in) then i don't know what is
< 1371689137 470922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more reasons to join #haskell: prevents anyone from having the thought "maybe if i murder kmc they'll shut up about him joining #haskell in #esoteric"
< 1371689198 125827 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora: unsafeCoerce?
< 1371689228 155129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:52:21  always trust monochrom after you have asked him to double-check and he has confirmed
< 1371689241 465458 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I... have no idea >_<  I don't know haskell
< 1371689263 34114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :WordNet also has an API.
< 1371689265 969339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: unsafeCoerce is like reinterpret_cast.
< 1371689290 544837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You should learn Haskell!
< 1371689381 705997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not know anything about phonology, though.
< 1371689402 945419 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned haskell before for class... kind of...
< 1371689525 367935 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they teach haskell in classes now??
< 1371689570 214711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... our compilers class used haskell, mostly, so the professor taught us a bit of it
< 1371689578 473520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are a couple free pronunciation dictionaries of different size, but none of those I know about collect other sort of mettadatta.)
< 1371689619 634484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which compilers class
< 1371689626 782905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh wait pseudonym never mind"
< 1371689642 466574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont be a dick
< 1371689678 40919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371689723 970803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should stop phrasing things in esoterese.
< 1371689753 282136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... actually wait, I think it was the programming languages class?
< 1371689779 861111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is well-suited for compilers at least, so it's a fairly good setting to encounter it in
< 1371689790 521337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez it was three years ago now >_<
< 1371689857 477390 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever it was we did do some compiler-making in it, like stuff with inheritance and type checking and super basic optimization
< 1371689865 235751 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell pattern matching was like amazing for it
< 1371689874 338779 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could write a peephole optimizer by pattern-matching against instruction sequences
< 1371689880 71815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three years ago i was 14........... yikes
< 1371689880 504111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our compiler class: used Java; and compiled: "MiniJava"; which has as a single lexical token the string "System.out.println".
< 1371689894 215859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice
< 1371689923 759114 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you could match against (mul x 2) and turn it into (add x x) type of thing
< 1371690005 403131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Statement ::= "System.out.println" "(" Expression ")" ";".
< 1371690032 362722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time i do a simple peephole optimiser it always feels like i'm not really doing optimisation because it's too simple :(
< 1371690034 280082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The type of Expression must also be "int".)
< 1371690071 111930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is x+x or x*2 actually faster in general with today's cpus(tm)? I have no idea
< 1371690076 110867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume the latter, but
< 1371690079 989699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I realise it was just an example)
< 1371690098 422681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, also: MainClass ::= "class" Identifier "{" "public" "static" "void" "main" "(" "String" "[" "]" Identifier ")" "{" Statement "}" "}".
< 1371690128 130178 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :add is typically 1 cycle latency and can issue on every pipe, so 0.25/0.33/0.5 inverse throughput depending on the CPU?
< 1371690130 967671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of those things ("public", "static", "String") have any sort of more proper significance. They're just... strings.
< 1371690142 664654 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiply kind of ranges but like... it usually can only issue once per cycle and it has higher latency so it's like... 3/1, 4/1, 5/1 ish?
< 1371690155 201998 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it kind of makes sense that adds are a lot easier than multiplies
< 1371690177 339948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm
< 1371690185 30563 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did the interview ever get published or anything?
< 1371690191 847977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: But do they deal with immediate 2 in any sort of special way? (Perhaps not, since it's the sort of thing you'd expect tools to do.)
< 1371690192 30458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what 0.25/0.33/0.5 inverse throughput actually means :(
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< 1371690465 824005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371690467 163012 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually I think other things tend to be the bottleneck for cycle length?
< 1371690471 800145 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, atom has only two execution pipes
< 1371690475 915719 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can't possibly do more than two adds
< 1371690492 571558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Intel microarchitecture code name Sandy Bridge, the low 64-bit result of a 128-bit multiply is ready to use in 3 cycles and the high 64-bit result is ready one cycle after the low 64-bit result. -- In a dependent chain of addition of integers wider than 128-bits, accessing the high 64-bits result of the multiply should be delayed relative to the low 64-bit multiply result for optimal ...
< 1371690495 553787 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so usually every execution pipe can do at least the most simple things
< 1371690498 582779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... software pipelining."
< 1371690502 676116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing a proper optimizing compiler must be the best job.
< 1371690607 165899 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from agner's little chart thing, various CPUs doing 32x32->32 multiplies: bulldozer: 4/2 sandy bridge: 3/1 original p4: 14/4.5 prescott: 10/2.5  atom: 5/2
< 1371690699 954452 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was guessing on the haswell add thing, like, I just remember hearing that they added a 4th execution pipe for super-simple-things-only, to handle like, jumps and loop overhead and stuff while the others handle big things like simd operations?
< 1371690737 55250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A kind of a... half-pipe... (ba-dum tssh)
< 1371690774 779463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1371690789 156808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some kind of a snow ski thing, right? 
< 1371690798 577855 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so     it's like  a skateboarding thing?
< 1371690808 45897 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this because my little brother was really, really into tony hawk's pro skater
< 1371690818 323065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Ski Or Die had a half-pipe event.
< 1371690818 859062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's settle on snowboarding hth
< 1371690835 710397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tony hawk's games obsoleted actual skateboarding
< 1371690843 336540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_or_Die <- Snowboard Halfpipe is like right there in the article image.
< 1371690857 955654 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now intel has like, 7 execution pipes    
< 1371690969 620416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When a girl start giving a guy head but then decides to stop/leave before the guy blows his load. -- She stoped giving me head before I cames and she left. All I got was a half-pipe."  thanks, urban dictionary.
< 1371690976 971348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "stoped".
< 1371690985 376486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you stoped at the red light? 
< 1371691031 430381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.csanl.com.br/alunos/paginas/2012/7a/f7a14/Image%209.jpg
< 1371691033 312014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's that thing
< 1371691039 14524 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but um I guess this is kind of off topic
< 1371691064 927838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how, it was a logical consequence of whatever came before.
< 1371691273 391083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The current method of half pipe cutting is by use of a Zaugg Pipe Monster."  okay that's it time to sleep it's 4:20am
< 1371691320 68425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc alert
< 1371691327 567248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(drugz joke)
< 1371691344 957530 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for explaining. Thexplaining.
< 1371691358 458840 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371691528 238105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed microarchitecture because i was cleaning my bathroom :'(
< 1371691537 176265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly the Zaugg Pipe Monster was enough of a drugz joke already.)
< 1371691587 763479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's ok it was just me not knowing basic things!!!
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< 1371691639 402156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned from 6.004 that there are lots of different ways you can structure an adder
< 1371691646 604544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the goal of minimizing gate delay
< 1371691653 877289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they probably have settled on one by now
< 1371691698 475972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the naive adder takes O(# bits) to settle down; the last gate can't start settling before it gets the carry from the previous
< 1371691732 408168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long until the transistors are small enough to just hardcode all the results
< 1371691749 398513 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371691752 110163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also can we have 3d cube cpus, that would be cool
< 1371691766 186098 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The problem for marketers is that some users set their browsers to reject cookies or quickly extinguish them. And mobile phones, which are taking an increasing chunk of the Web usage, do not use cookies."
< 1371691766 989141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can make a "carry select" adder where you do the last half of the addition twice in parallel, once assuming carry 0, once assuming carry 1
< 1371691768 327795 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: we can talk more about it and stuff!
< 1371691769 132380 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate everyone.
< 1371691773 149055 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/06/17/the-web-cookie-is-dying-heres-the-creepier-technology-that-comes-next/
< 1371691778 274677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the actual carry just selects between those
< 1371691800 104010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so a good archticeture is like an unbalanced tree of this idea recursively
< 1371691823 354666 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember hearing though that the bottleneck in current chips is often things like "select the oldest instructions whose input dependencies are satisfied from this queue of 36 instructions" and things like that?  and I guess maybe like cache loads and stuff?
< 1371691831 472938 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, OOE logic and things
< 1371691841 119058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :really dumb question: why are chips flat
< 1371691857 101012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they have 3d internal structure but it's all really small?
< 1371691864 162919 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone please tell me where "mobile phones do not use cookies" come from?
< 1371691866 75496 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because of the way lithography works, isn't it?
< 1371691870 929828 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to be a misunderstanding of SOMETHING
< 1371691876 622925 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it's all about laying down layers 
< 1371691892 505209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't they starting to do "3D" like right these days? 
< 1371691901 157162 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, if you wanted it 3D, you'd have to stick two silicon wafers on top of each other (?)  I'm not sure
< 1371691959 399525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more dumb questions: wouldn't it all be a lot faster if they like, integrated the RAM with the CPU.
< 1371691975 147753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the "3D" of a tri-gate transistor perhaps has nothing to do with three dimensions. How nice.
< 1371692031 755545 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDRAM  it's a thing!
< 1371692065 448080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they actually use it in consoles and stuff
< 1371692075 790277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway actual three-dimensional things are a thing too, I'm pretty sure, just not such a commercially viable thing.
< 1371692084 478564 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it would be, like, significantly faster? because you can skip all the communication paths and stuff
< 1371692091 214606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the motherboard and all that?
< 1371692094 966347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and RAM latency is kind of a big deal right
< 1371692114 415940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess if they're using it in consoles and not "regular computer" CPUs it mustn't be that amazing..... (but then why are they using it in consoles)
< 1371692123 837426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intel has those 3D transistors now
< 1371692133 324366 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a lot of RAM latency comes not from the distance but from like...
< 1371692135 467829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want like a cube shape then one big obstacle is routing power and cooling
< 1371692156 335995 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the logic itself?  I mean like, there's a controller, which is this crazy complex thing and has to negotiate requests from multiple cores
< 1371692177 626585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371692181 144703 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there's the row/column addressing, the refreshing, and all kinds of stuff I don't really know abot
< 1371692192 860836 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, DRAM itself is kind of not trivial to access?
< 1371692195 348679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just see a long path and think "hey, I bet lightspeed is some kind of bottleneck here in 2013" :P
< 1371692206 738484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dram is complicated :'(
< 1371692207 580209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "Tri-gate or 3D Transistor (not to be confused with 3D microchips) fabrication is used by Intel Corporation for the nonplanar transistor architecture --" that seems to sort of imply it's not a properly "3D IC" thing.
< 1371692233 487793 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(20 centimeters) / ((2 / 3) * c) = 1.00069229 nanoseconds
< 1371692246 115123 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like... if the roundtripdistance is 20cm that's like... it's like only 1ns extra time from the wire?
< 1371692253 926857 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm
< 1371692393 489953 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the "3D" is for "3 drain"??  
< 1371692406 191844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i see
< 1371692423 486895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like there is a trend of moving stuff closer to the cpu anyway
< 1371692436 503685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah DRAM is complicated... it's funny how if you look at any two parts that are "just wired together" you find they're really two machines speaking a protocol
< 1371692445 456785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this holds recursively to some depth
< 1371692449 771448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually you will just buy a motherboard from intel where every part of the computer is on one big chip and all it has is USB ports
< 1371692457 212908 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading about just how gigantic modern DRAM controllers were, like, they used up a significant part of the silicon or something
< 1371692469 31152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does it hold within the CPU itself? I guess probably
< 1371692471 442449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371692482 564449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's impossible to design something that big without abstractions and protocols
< 1371692487 956334 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: like, systems on a chip?
< 1371692496 607709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the cores on a single die have to execute a cache coherence protocol right
< 1371692497 983925 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't they making like, an atom soc or something (?)
< 1371692529 374859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371692533 169533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something intel would do
< 1371692536 179881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Someone* is making Atom SoCs, at least.
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< 1371692555 439136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it competitive with ARM SoCs in any way
< 1371692564 127887 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28system_on_chip%29   
< 1371692645 565521 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the whole thing in _The Door Into Summer_ where he gets engaged to a 12 year old is admittedly "a bit weird".......and also there's all the sexism and all that.........
< 1371692649 897564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still a good book hth
< 1371692658 43590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Intel has announced that it won't provide support for Linux on Cloverview family of Atom systems-on-a-chip"
< 1371692715 352182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :system on a chip looks like that yes
< 1371692952 825111 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I knew more about this stuff though... 
< 1371692976 797052 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the instant the bits leave the core my knowledge drops to about zero...
< 1371693073 814550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the instant the bits leave the screen my knowledge drops to zero
< 1371693088 623243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok let's say "disk" instead. except i don't know anything about the disk itself
< 1371693114 871798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they spin
< 1371693117 283543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when they don't
< 1371693145 15939 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's like magnets involved
< 1371693147 4079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When they don't, they just... solid around, right? 
< 1371693163 518583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371693175 78087 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love magnets
< 1371693184 193985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i have one of those disks that doesn't spin
< 1371693189 354940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't trust it because it doesn't make noises
< 1371693203 780700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have internalised that the act of storing data fundamentally requires little clicky noises
< 1371693233 729137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDQOvzFetxs
< 1371693616 104258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just a quick questions if I chose to learn Haskell what are the benefits is it better the C/C++ will I be able to write dll ? or winapi etc
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< 1371694122 89369 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't get it, this cnn money thing is fucking hilarious
< 1371694159 156004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: if you join #haskell then shachaf and I won't paste you the worst of #haskell
< 1371694193 593138 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how shachaf doesn't talk about ##crypto in here.
< 1371694193 834407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Uh, can I sign up for that deal?
< 1371694195 775601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in #haskell.
< 1371694240 448110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. kmc only.
< 1371694497 233690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Think you’ve evolved past your primordial urges to employ murder as a problem solving tool? Read:"
< 1371694564 278445 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371694569 143784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link is http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/13/technology/alex-banayan-vc.pr.fortune/index.html if you really want to murder someone
< 1371694574 72331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or want to want to murder someone, anyway
< 1371694612 885393 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's just so over the top
< 1371694648 275496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, "The problem for VCs lusting after 18-year-old entrepreneurs is that they themselves are usually forty- and fiftysomethings"
< 1371694820 105506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'TechCrunch named it "douchebag app of the year."'   <---- actual quote
< 1371694838 269461 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah that playbook thing is pretty terrible.
< 1371694860 220171 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1371694861 25237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Fontenot told him the demand was much bigger than what Facebook could handle.'
< 1371695402 765923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: don't miss the astroturfing in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5907253
< 1371695613 739342 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371695735 36090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alex is the real deal! Never have I talked with someone and been so inspired! He has influence to source deals and has heard thousands of stories from entrepreneurs. I trust his expertise.
< 1371695739 92623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. I still feel like a VC is taking a big risk on a hot-shot young hustler like this.
< 1371695744 490116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venture capital is literally all about taking big risks...
< 1371695748 237132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truth. So in that case why aren't other VC firms bringing on young hustlers like Alex here to build relationships and scout out young founders?
< 1371695767 333536 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i don't even have to open the link. you should start a VC firm for pasting things about VC firms into irc
< 1371695772 852634 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot shot young hustler, jesus
< 1371695795 380898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :Hot shot young hustler Jesus | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric
< 1371695802 369596 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
< 1371695889 424281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you all ready to move to startupland
< 1371695891 298886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to read some more terrible things, Noisebridge is having a long argument about whether the violent guy with the "WHITE POWER" tattoo should be asked to leave https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-June/037346.html
< 1371695900 973584 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's noisebridge
< 1371695915 775799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SF hackerspace, prominent among hackerspaces nationally
< 1371695927 94798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and world-class drama generator
< 1371695936 315380 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name of the guy with the tattoos is Robbie, and he's a nice guy. I haven't seen Robby do anything that warranted being asked to leave. Of course, Robby might be nice to me because I am one of two people who bothered to introduce themselves to him.
< 1371695946 354222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with all you weirdos not introducing yourself to a guy with a "white power" tattoo
< 1371695959 116269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. oppressive
< 1371695966 951645 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-June/037410.html ahaha beautiful
< 1371695987 588274 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :white power isn't always a racial slogan it's the rascist minds and race baiters that interpret it that way and want others to
< 1371696009 996121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good point
< 1371696013 748077 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously though what is this, some kind of "hackrspace" thing or
< 1371696029 580093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:38:35 <+kmc> SF hackerspace, prominent among hackerspaces nationally
< 1371696035 778081 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371696038 190529 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :genius deduction Bike
< 1371696038 457688 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i missed that oops
< 1371696076 987750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :previous episodes include: Noisebridge lost all their money and nobody knows how; Noisebridge debates whether to let someone teach a class on cooking crystal meth; Noisebridge argues about whether people should inhale nitrous oxide in the hackerspace
< 1371696089 709355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god, some of these messages
< 1371696098 948049 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT ABOUT A JEWISH GUY WITH A SWASTIKA TATTOO???
< 1371696132 796135 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh somebody ragequit
< 1371696133 64357 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what was that other one
< 1371696134 439745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right fluoride
< 1371696136 349337 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes this is good
< 1371696136 554510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah
< 1371696144 685877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :person emails noisebridge about the evils of flouridation
< 1371696151 472718 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see my arguments as defending a racist and I see them as defending critical thinking.
< 1371696160 311951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else compares this to 9/11 trutherism facetiously
< 1371696166 548158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the thread talks about 9/11 trutherism seriously for a while
< 1371696182 768911 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's no way that I could know how it feels to be beaten in the street for the color of my skin or know the weight of living under the burden of another groups privilege." are they like
< 1371696190 347693 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we supposed to think "no, you do know that"
< 1371696190 615851 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :((i*23831)>>18)*352>>5 -- can this be simplified further?
< 1371696218 736175 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea i will think about this question instead of continuing to read.
< 1371696234 349259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never been to noisebridge "should i go y/n"
< 1371696239 512474 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you could replace the end with *63>>3, couldn't you?
< 1371696257 996040 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in terms of operations, not numbers
< 1371696259 334496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i guess not hm
< 1371696264 712056 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking about, say,
< 1371696273 189774 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding 352*2^18 in the multiplication
< 1371696276 202021 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait you could ok
< 1371696276 407053 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shifting by 25
< 1371696278 651366 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think that works
< 1371696282 714416 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371696283 252140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-June/037482.html
< 1371696285 664360 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how do you arrive at *63?
< 1371696300 755981 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad arithmetic in my head :D
< 1371696334 699308 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it would be *11
< 1371696348 583061 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i mean, 352 = 11*2^5, is all
< 1371696366 83238 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't give the same result
< 1371696375 955946 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol.
< 1371696378 98350 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not?
< 1371696381 617014 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i'm kind of out of it
< 1371696386 17384 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, but i was thinking similar
< 1371696395 532269 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :80,6942987((25*23831)>>18)*352>>5
< 1371696395 800254 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :80,694298722
< 1371696396 5647 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :80,6942987((25*23831)>>18)*11>>5
< 1371696396 5843 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :80,69429870
< 1371696401 367 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1371696403 946031 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean get rid of the >>5
< 1371696410 602422 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rite
< 1371696436 305607 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works but i am not quite sure wh-- nm i am
< 1371696436 841096 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371696441 834439 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense man
< 1371696444 517000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh++
< 1371696445 589625 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool cool
< 1371696450 829978 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :++wh
< 1371696466 723136 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fear my power, for i know basic arithmetic
< 1371696473 977474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw when you move to sf are you going to get a night iphone and a day iphone
< 1371696480 406370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no is that a thing
< 1371696485 886898 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1371696488 303291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/my-phone/2013/03/dave-morin-path-facebook-apple
< 1371696503 998308 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect
< 1371696504 533786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god that thing
< 1371696512 655864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing is the best thing
< 1371696521 795863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the little things
< 1371696529 947980 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don’t use a ring of any kind on my phone. This is so that I am always on offense and never defense."
< 1371696531 555482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how [case] tells you that this guy referred to his fucking iphone case as a "walnut-back"
< 1371696532 932667 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??????
< 1371696535 77810 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e NICK :myndzi
< 1371696540 702408 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we, by any chance, going to mock this man
< 1371696543 957527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :“They remind me of home and my values. The mountains are my soul.”
< 1371696547 491813 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, phantom.
< 1371696566 696313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :“It’s a custom-designed, one-of-a-kind bespoke app I had built for my assistant and I to communicate and collaborate through.”
< 1371696580 686729 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Editors curate the most important news stories of the day and break them down into basic points, quotes, and imagery" alright i gotta check this out
< 1371696585 10868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i honestly think it must be a send-up of startup culture
< 1371696587 523791 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it not be
< 1371696596 776447 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you have to get an app for this
< 1371696597 850090 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that
< 1371696776 897449 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hi should i sleep
< 1371696796 86800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: @msg #esoteric no
< 1371696812 151612 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@msg #esoteric yes
< 1371696812 357248 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges
< 1371696815 633423 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-(
< 1371696824 811956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now let's line text up!
< 1371696835 945690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we gotta do it, Bike...
< 1371696848 996621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 characters is enough
< 1371696874 721441 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even notice it
< 1371696876 864106 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit
< 1371696879 314713 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371696886 816696 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-]
< 1371696905 443826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23 if your nick is mine
< 1371696915 104059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 if it's a "bad nick"
< 1371696917 514778 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you
< 1371696934 426923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., not 7 letters hth
< 1371696937 410135 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
< 1371697001 371994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is un-co-operative
< 1371697019 35697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i can't use an ö here)
< 1371697040 804186 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371697047 226951 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta hyphenate words
< 1371697101 928326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one else is playing?
< 1371697114 372655 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::]
< 1371697118 928990 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :counting is for losers
< 1371697134 345048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you calling me one?
< 1371697146 162326 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe
< 1371697171 697584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: don't insult me!
< 1371697210 660199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://abadfortress.tumblr.com/
< 1371697219 52035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has a monopsony
< 1371697236 948315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i misuse that word?
< 1371697240 468208 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"monopsony"++
< 1371697242 878494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. i don't care.
< 1371697245 600331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not the dwarf fortress i know
< 1371697246 931657 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why does it look like link's awakening
< 1371697262 594567 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or. pokemon
< 1371697308 135108 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks more like pokemon
< 1371697308 939183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/5e16dcd9ba738025b40d0e48424b9ceb/tumblr_moidwos8Y71spfoh9o3_1280.png
< 1371697310 851946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i give up. happy?
< 1371697314 107914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDEA!DRUG
< 1371697315 483535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAG    FUCK
< 1371697326 185179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit
< 1371697327 281028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a bootleg translation of japanese pokemon into english
< 1371697328 959304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally scrolled down to it
< 1371697331 212060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'english'
< 1371697334 499407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before clicking kmc's link
< 1371697343 141085 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this calls for the image
< 1371697345 14374 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Power of Drugz
< 1371697348 534194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Schéma_synchronicité_in_English.png
< 1371697352 551147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/ccd724c3a73588a5d203fdf0262e755d/tumblr_moidmnSzMS1spfoh9o3_1280.png
< 1371697385 391079 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this vietnamese crystal
< 1371697388 911874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371697395 961013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vietnamese crystal sounds like a drug tbh
< 1371697396 495913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you scroll back enoguh then the blog is about dwarf fortress instead
< 1371697406 222492 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371697410 588327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i got some premium vietnamese crystal man, let's get fucked up"
< 1371697414 224871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Authentic Drugz Talk
< 1371697414 491413 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you reading this, it pretty much is
< 1371697448 890921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey is someone selling drugz
< 1371697456 304704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me
< 1371697461 428678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is santa cruz famous as a place to get drugz btw
< 1371697464 640003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pokemon Vietnamese Crystal is a Vietnamese-to English translated version of Crystal that was sold as a bootleg in markets accross Vietnam in early 2001. Based on all of the place names and the names of the characters, it is most likely that this is a translation of the Chinese version of Crystal(which itself is an unofficial translation of the Japanese version"
< 1371697478 679261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: one time i told someone that i had been to santa cruz in the evening and he thought it was for buying drugz
< 1371697479 750201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i guess
< 1371697481 626554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371697485 687026 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gosh, that reminds me of... what was it...
< 1371697487 298364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
< 1371697503 541469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#drugzoteric
< 1371697504 345363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Star War The Third Gathers: The Backstroke of the West"
< 1371697507 827267 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371697511 380330 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that turkish star wars or
< 1371697512 452216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember that
< 1371697513 255047 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_War_The_Third_Gathers:_The_Backstroke_of_the_West
< 1371697517 930837 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the bootlegged version with "DO NOT WANT"
< 1371697533 85143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://winterson.com/2005/06/episode-iii-backstroke-of-west.html
< 1371697583 421872 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"amazingly enough, the beginning scroll is mistranslated even though the words are right there on the screen" good
< 1371697609 263773 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our dichotomy opens the combat
< 1371697634 838203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seemed completely random until i figured out that 'jedi council' was being translated into chinese then back to english as 'the presbyterian church'.
< 1371697637 824167 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is still good
< 1371697655 652025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005195.html in depth examination of how the word 'fuck' ends up in so many translations from chinese
< 1371697665 476339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :attn Bike, other language nerds
< 1371697671 582327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no it's like almost 5
< 1371697694 605037 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow do i qualify as a language nerd now
< 1371697695 820086 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome
< 1371697728 662212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: biologist, linguist, bicycle.
< 1371697741 170632 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bike, the myth, the legend
< 1371697742 12144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371697748 139875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :linguists are the worst thing
< 1371697752 210796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be a linguist
< 1371697752 747122 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up shachaf!!!!!
< 1371697756 651478 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up!!!!!!!!!!!
< 1371697764 213253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not today, mnoqy
< 1371697771 711233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i speak up against linguists!
< 1371697783 580120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally
< 1371697798 389709 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371697801 740266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :first they didn't come for the statisticians
< 1371697812 111573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i didn't speak up because i didn't hate statisticians
< 1371697879 175583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that the investigation involves finding the chinese-language forum where chinese people make fun of bad chinese -> english translations
< 1371697890 88023 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet
< 1371697990 17754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: wait you're not a linguist are you
< 1371697998 533189 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3
< 1371698052 394143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/llog/Gan10.jpg  Correct translation: "Dry Seasonings Section"
< 1371698078 871816 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough
< 1371698099 98048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/llog/Gan11.jpg this would be a great if aggressive motto
< 1371698462 951272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fast ether lord fucking net ascending
< 1371698484 233841 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my tagline on dating sites
< 1371698492 215524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a fast ether lord

< 1371698554 613835 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371698884 873304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow these birds outside are making annoying noises.
< 1371698888 701172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like they want me to not sleep.
< 1371698890 343260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind
< 1371698901 414032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1371698905 435050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind that makes annoying noises at 4 am
< 1371698905 755835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc and i saw a bird once
< 1371698920 179851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Scrub_Jay
< 1371698936 646471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice looking bird imo
< 1371698947 98110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a not nice looking bird iyo
< 1371698947 366270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the birds here make worse noises than the birds in the other place in hexham i've lived
< 1371698955 976899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those made soothing oo oo noises
< 1371698977 732027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thearchnemesis.com/Ugly-Birds.html
< 1371699000 196967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1371699003 412033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with these except pigeon
< 1371699008 275181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think pigeons are pretty
< 1371699013 374534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you calling me ugly
< 1371699020 344715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think so
< 1371699030 175076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is seagull
< 1371699034 763698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a seagull
< 1371699037 978377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi
< 1371699041 459809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you're calling my personality ugly
< 1371699053 925434 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We will assume the validity of the axiom of choice without further ado" ruh roh
< 1371699054 461703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://translate.google.com/#iw/en/%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%A3 hth
< 1371699057 449990 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371699089 505439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh interesting
< 1371699103 66854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftr i don't think seagulls are ugly either
< 1371699106 856447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: source
< 1371699110 337459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cockroaches of the air
< 1371699116 507490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lot, web page
< 1371699118 723882 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Introductory Real Analysis by Kolmogorov
< 1371699126 139378 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously it goes on to mention The Controversy)
< 1371699142 822726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: _The Door into Summer_ has a bunch of great things about cats.
< 1371699177 448882 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't really imagine a well ordering of the reals......................
< 1371699184 596869 :sprockle_!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371699202 968550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: don't worry in type theory you get the axiom of choice as a theorem without getting a well-ordering of the reals!
< 1371699207 619170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's The Best Of Both Worlds
< 1371699209 762409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so
< 1371699209 967913 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371699212 170107 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1371699227 20168 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can prove choice from well-ordering i thought
< 1371699227 225694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://r6.ca/blog/20050604T143800Z.html "my favourite blog post"
< 1371699233 223465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes but that's in set theory.
< 1371699243 776005 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy some other thing
< 1371699290 151665 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The key difference between set theory and type theory is that in set theory one can form quotient sets for arbitrary equivalence relations" who needs it anyway
< 1371699324 434396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the quotient set the set of equivalence classes?
< 1371699324 702383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: more favourite than.......................... http://r6research.livejournal.com/27071.html
< 1371699327 644925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1371699347 992915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes.
< 1371699353 425009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371699416 196541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do quotient types they just have to be different I think
< 1371699419 179098 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how i'll apparently never find any foundation ever completely intuitive
< 1371699421 133241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe nobody has worked out all the details yet
< 1371699424 346710 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking quotients
< 1371699436 93653 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTT and HTT have stories for them
< 1371699436 361297 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well i'm just a bikeologist
< 1371699444 792815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: How did you initially come to #esoteric, anyway?
< 1371699445 330961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm pretty sure you don't have to give in to the axiom of choice for them :P
< 1371699448 274667 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agda had a b0rked one
< 1371699458 590494 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think sgeo.
< 1371699464 820097 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1371699475 166283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin
< 1371699502 75032 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf 
< 1371699505 92983 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371699508 124032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371699516 112010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: you should play our new game
< 1371699522 537713 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it was recently shown by Cohen that an affirmatie answer to the question is also consistent" wow this is pretty old
< 1371699523 341354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's trying to convince kmc to come back to #haskell some more!
< 1371699527 360009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo++
< 1371699553 139447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: kmc will come to #haskell if he wants to
< 1371699555 42548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave him alone hth
< 1371699566 559091 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that's for bringing Bike here?
< 1371699566 764257 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can hask if we want to, we can leave our friends behind
< 1371699577 105872 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey, wanna come back to #haskell? I'll give you +v
< 1371699598 878751 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically like a million bucks
< 1371699627 800632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes
< 1371699629 942777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: maybe later
< 1371699639 128067 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know i think something i liked about taocp was: no fucking foundations
< 1371699646 725092 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just billions and billions of combinatoric identities
< 1371699650 510462 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all math books should be like that imo.
< 1371699660 738715 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think you'll find that foundations rule and everything on top is boring as hell
< 1371699684 46348 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should do reverse mathematics instead
< 1371699689 971256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that's foundations
< 1371699692 180334 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of involves foundations + is crazy + isn't foundations
< 1371699692 720192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just LAME foundations
< 1371699711 180490 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you did it with type theories instead of set theories
< 1371699715 7283 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"be an innovator"
< 1371699754 492869 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "learn lisp or ocaml along with haskell" -- #haskell
< 1371699782 930279 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn snobol or ia32 along with haskell
< 1371699809 75360 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, erm... the lisp bit was my fault >.>
< 1371699816 526517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it was
< 1371699828 578409 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is metaprogramming and who needs it
< 1371699840 940094 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :id say things in #haskell but heck no im not doing that
< 1371699848 237530 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's where you incessantly make jokes about "i never meta [thing] i didn't like" automatically
< 1371699852 312144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: do it
< 1371699911 582885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell/11.05.04:12:42:05  C++ exists. this is a bad design decision.
< 1371699920 266323 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o god dont grep for me
< 1371699923 480206 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it stop it stop it
< 1371699924 16078 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it stop it stop it
< 1371699943 222856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok stopped
< 1371699947 583356 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PART :#esoteric
< 1371699952 555903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oopse"
< 1371699960 58102 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already stopped grepping :'(
< 1371699972 187903 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you shouldn't grep in the first place
< 1371699979 730217 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should skip the set theory stuff and get ti hilbertian spaces
< 1371700053 688404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask mnoqy i miss you :'(
< 1371700053 956232 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371700250 527154 :sprockle_!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371700261 323527 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shachaf That was not a question.
< 1371700261 591000 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371700279 503405 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, even if it's a three letter language? >.>
< 1371700309 163332 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there are actually good three letter languages like Tcl
< 1371700313 719383 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Lua I guess
< 1371700327 387038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about bashing Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download
< 1371700337 915801 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that would be worth a kickban
< 1371700348 385060 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bankicks are better.
< 1371700359 509229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott kickbanned someone today "it was weird"
< 1371700364 327926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kicked first, then banned
< 1371700389 562314 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371700411 718183 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that was the order?
< 1371700430 663141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:33 -!- mode/#haskell [+o elliott] by ChanServ
< 1371700430 930950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:33 -!- fwe was kicked from #haskell by elliott [fwe]
< 1371700431 136254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:33 -!- mode/#haskell [+b *!*ssjsj@31.205.67.*] by elliott
< 1371700431 136451 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:33 -!- mode/#haskell [-o shachaf] by elliott
< 1371700431 136560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:33 -!- mode/#haskell [-o elliott] by elliott
< 1371700440 698339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite part was the part where he -oed me.
< 1371700457 685695 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious. Those lines reached me in a bankick order.
< 1371700465 619646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1371700468 569734 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://enet.bespin.org/
< 1371700476 134857 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between that and Tcp?
< 1371700479 615410 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s almost as if IRC doesn’t preserve global ordering!
< 1371700486 101972 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's in the FAQ
< 1371700487 174246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: gasp
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< 1371700974 472223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike annoy me until isleep
< 1371700990 74927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: talk about linguistics
< 1371701002 795222 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hm
< 1371701010 872149 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, have you heard about call/cc being used in linguistics
< 1371701031 716444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy i'm getting irritated already
< 1371701043 248156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if elliott is anything like me he'll go to sleep straight away
< 1371701151 307236 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the idea is something about continuations being isomorphic to xbars
< 1371701217 563993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i feel as if you are serving shachaf more than i
< 1371701234 554197 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh hm
< 1371701235 900177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Bike is serving me more than you're serving me?
< 1371701244 475349 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1371701254 224144 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you feel about computable reals not being compact
< 1371701320 257104 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371701331 803762 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or: http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/03/problem-with-integer-division.html
< 1371701348 447806 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno i assume the more i talk about anything the more annoyed you'll get b/c you hate bicycles
< 1371701381 215124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh guido
< 1371701405 135048 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371701407 824212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So, originally you couldn’t add an int to a float, or even an int to a long. After Python was released publicly, Tim Peters quickly convinced me that this was a really bad idea" fuck
< 1371701416 9464 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just backtrack on your only good decision ever or whatever
< 1371701471 846703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't hate bicycles!
< 1371701478 911472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Why is your nick "Bike", anyway?
< 1371701522 60675 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i wasn't talking to you
< 1371701527 178851 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's the h8r
< 1371701992 487070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eh i'm not a fan of implicit conversions, but there is a real usability issue there that shouldn't be ignored
< 1371702039 908525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was definitely a mistake to have integer division truncate, though
< 1371702043 696077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one they've fixed in python 3
< 1371702124 480102 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is one of the most important steps right here. WEAR CLOTHES! I can not stress this enough. Some of us enjoy naked gaming, but this is one of the comforts we have to give up in exchange for a streamlined pizza ordering process. 
< 1371702137 156352 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well i would be okay with "implicit conversions" if they actually worked ~like mathematics~ but that's sort of an impossible goal
< 1371702154 227542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. if 1+0.5+0.5 was 2 and that 2 behaved "as an integer" wherever the distinction is relevant
< 1371702159 651476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :upcasting to float is just silly
< 1371702194 712961 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ide/theory: math is impossible
< 1371702216 650870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i hate to say it but there's some appeal to JavaScript's solution
< 1371702237 823089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... disagree
< 1371702241 73825 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make everything floats?
< 1371702281 508515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like a mathematica-ish "everything is an expression and only done 'numerically' where precision can be maintained and then things like 'is an integer' is just a (possibly-undecidable) predicate" or whatever could work okay
< 1371702303 659706 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're not being annoying enough yet btw
< 1371702314 575984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can i be annoying
< 1371702321 396173 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god since when do you have standards for being annoyed
< 1371702323 538496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, or more generally having only one numeric type
< 1371702328 708655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not asking whether i should, just whether i can)
< 1371702333 841089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only rationals would be p. cool
< 1371702334 635139 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371702339 758581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck the square root of 2
< 1371702342 705444 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if i like that because it varies by application etc
< 1371702344 43168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cyclotomic numbers hth
< 1371702352 974882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/cyclotomic/0.3.1/doc/html/Data-Complex-Cyclotomic.html
< 1371702359 937133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you could ask for an approximation of sqrt of 2 to within IEEE 754 double precision anyway
< 1371702360 142143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rationals with just dumb approximations for things like sqrt could work.....
< 1371702361 275530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinful though
< 1371702366 98165 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how doing math is like the first thing programming was for and we still haven't agreed on how to do it
< 1371702366 634054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cosinful
< 1371702374 23838 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo we should use continued fractions
< 1371702382 980766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first thing programming was for was killing nazis
< 1371702405 391215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's nice
< 1371702418 67469 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe just algebraics
< 1371702420 783788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: continued fractions are cute as hell
< 1371702422 658866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw be more annoying
< 1371702424 270990 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we need transcendental numbers, really? imo no.
< 1371702428 825865 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to sleeep
< 1371702431 810719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they actually
< 1371702446 75655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the rational field extended with nth roots of unity for arbitrarily large integers n" i guess
< 1371702466 181363 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In number theory, a cyclotomic field is a number field obtained by adjoining a complex primitive root of unity to Q, the field of rational numbers."
< 1371702470 465730 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that's straightforward enough.
< 1371702492 706815 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are they represented?
< 1371702509 699488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god
< 1371702510 774208 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike
< 1371702514 342097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't care about me at all
< 1371702514 611824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Cyclotomic = Cyclotomic { order  :: Integer , coeffs :: M.Map Integer Rational } deriving (Eq)
< 1371702518 626383 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371702525 89824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you're being really annoying right now btw
< 1371702529 143303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: its sure that microcontroller are not suitable for functionnal programming
< 1371702530 214113 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha as a polynomial, awesome.
< 1371702533 427502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe direct your annoyingness at yourself instead of at Bike
< 1371702533 697480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :microcontroller have not enough ram for recursion
< 1371702589 346746 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good representations of polynomials are something i should understand better really
< 1371702717 571689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike do you know the puzzle where you come up with some polynomial where all the coëfficients are nonnegative integers and tell me its value at any (positive) point and then i ask you for its value at another point
< 1371702730 960910 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i think.
< 1371703121 85850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you like algorithm, data structure, special thing, other paradigm...
< 1371703143 566885 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, isn't that related to that secret sharing thing? I'm not sure if that's what you're referring to
< 1371703157 390896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know what secret sharing thing, but probably not.
< 1371703158 998710 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With sufficient points, you learn the polynomial, with insufficient points, you learn nothing
< 1371703178 130347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only need to ask for one point.
< 1371703183 521581 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir's_Secret_Sharing
< 1371703184 859940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(After you give me one.)
< 1371703206 141292 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, then I have no idea
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< 1371704718 925654 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/88757/nice-well-orderings-of-the-reals agh
< 1371704797 54866 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shamir's Secret Sharing sounds like a spell in DC:SS.
< 1371704945 529602 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here I thought "well-ordering of the reals" meant something incredibly trivial and obvious
< 1371704957 655048 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol how'd you think that
< 1371704979 3240 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what "Lebesgue measurable" means
< 1371705004 992690 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I know what it means. Uh, almost. Lemme think.
< 1371705042 255823 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lebesgue measure of an interval is just the high minus the low.
< 1371705049 638562 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you build up unions, etc.
< 1371705059 754343 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you run into vitali sets and become the unabomber.
< 1371705062 449333 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how is it a Boolean?
< 1371705071 195868 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371705075 212024 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :First, there's this thing called the "outer measure" of a set.
< 1371705081 218067 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the hell said anything about bools
< 1371705081 485584 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Question: is it equiconsistent with reasonable large cardinals that there is a well-ordering of the reals which - as a relation on R2 - is Lebesgue measurable?"
< 1371705090 904861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: re shamir: yes
< 1371705094 7913 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that have to do with bools
< 1371705099 899886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shachaf.net/what-about-this-channel.txt
< 1371705106 934632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero-knowledge proofs would be a good RPG power as well
< 1371705111 291435 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :404.
< 1371705118 825492 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This well-ordering is Lebesgue measurable" vs "This well-ordering is not Lebesgue measurable"
< 1371705123 982861 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So let's say that a "boxing" of a set S is a countable set T of closed boxes, such that the union of T is a superset of S.
< 1371705141 146003 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's whether you /can/ measure it, i.e. that it has a measure, not what that measure is.
< 1371705158 779092 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vitali sets are non-measurable, so's the well-ordering (as a relation in the usual construction of relations)
< 1371705172 206715 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vitali?
< 1371705174 350053 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The measure of a boxing is just the sum of the sizes of all of the boxes. The outer measure of a set is the infimum of the measures of all of its boxings.
< 1371705181 770206 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vitali.
< 1371705183 107910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go to sleep
< 1371705186 391413 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :named after a guy named Vitali.
< 1371705226 917131 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, for all sets that have Lebesgue measure, the Lebesgue measure is equal to the outer measure. And a set is Lebesgue measurable if and only if it has a Lebesgue measure.
< 1371705229 863084 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh!
< 1371705232 272378 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :R^2, not R
< 1371705238 507190 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the only remaining question is: what does it mean for a set to be measurable?
< 1371705244 709367 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-roll-
< 1371705259 443756 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the answer is, uh...
< 1371705283 443376 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to get some sleep. Sleep off the sleep deprivation drunk
< 1371705291 203206 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get drunker
< 1371705291 408542 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whuch is different from actual drjnk
< 1371705292 6954 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. Lemme look it up.
< 1371705300 852998 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like 'actual' stuff very much
< 1371705340 607297 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do genetic manipulation of actual animals, I don't get actual drunk
< 1371705351 127060 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :missing out imo
< 1371705352 201800 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on both
< 1371705362 488113 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered getting mutants drunk
< 1371705370 565075 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. A set S is measurable if and only if for all sets A, the outer measure of A is the outer measure of A \ S plus the outer measure of A intersect S.
< 1371705373 352094 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently.
< 1371705444 238469 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/137657/is-there-a-well-ordering-of-the-reals-measurable-or-not?lq=1
< 1371705449 327461 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm even more confused now
< 1371705461 473103 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, I got the Nice Question badge for this question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11870884/vim-says-no-mouse-support-but-only-when-i-run-git-commit
< 1371705482 740153 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's brain elided the word 'Nice'

< 1371705491 697916 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Question badge...
< 1371705518 758658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is there a well-ordering of the reals after all, measurable or not?" lolololol
< 1371705537 620608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you get a badge at 50 answerpoints?
< 1371705538 690879 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if you want to talk about it before you sleep, what's confusing
< 1371705558 20009 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how the answer isn't trivially yes
< 1371705581 979892 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so, what's a well ordering?
< 1371705630 23612 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How there could exist two reals, a and b, for which none of (a < b) (a > b) (a = b) is correct. I guess there's more to it, such as consistency when c is introduced?
< 1371705641 925749 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a well order.
< 1371705643 263021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you know the sorcerer's apprentice? it's kind of like that
< 1371705644 908239 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just a total order.
< 1371705658 704193 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A well order is a total order + every subset has a least element.
< 1371705684 553580 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1371705706 959666 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rationals aren't well-ordered then either, I think
< 1371705708 565924 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :< isn't a well order on the reals. For example, consider the nonzero positive reals.
< 1371705721 585080 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the usual ordering on the rational orders isn't well.
< 1371705723 251601 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, if you have the axiom of choice you can show that a well order does exist.
< 1371705723 518748 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, hmm
< 1371705727 536556 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scandalous, I know
< 1371705730 481329 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor is the usual ordering on the integers.
< 1371705781 292252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Does the C spec actually specify there can't be more than 2^(CHAR_BIT * sizeof(void *)) distinct values of type void *?
< 1371705825 407685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the C spec ever talk about cardinalities of types
< 1371705841 576281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the question is whether C can be Turing-complete this way.
< 1371705843 486223 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly implied by limits.h, aren't they?
< 1371705856 146099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :limits.h for void *?
< 1371705869 251288 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none.
< 1371705881 79895 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would that include those int ptr things
< 1371705884 562386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay to access a void* pointer as a bunch of uint8_t, right?  by aliasing rules
< 1371705893 780906 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could use that to show that constraint applies
< 1371705896 194261 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is totally valid to limit the possible values of void* to 32...
< 1371705905 387566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Would it?
< 1371705914 902763 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wait, 32 is too small, let's say it'd be 4096.
< 1371705959 453514 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: like, if sizeof(void*) is x, and you access it as a series of x char values, then each char can have at most 2^CHAR_BIT values, so....?
< 1371705983 994359 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, just a guess >_<
< 1371705995 681138 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many uint8_t do you need
< 1371705996 482480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you actually access it as a series of x char values, I mean?
< 1371705999 757457 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: not exactly, since some representations of void* can be declared invalid. same goes for integers.
< 1371705999 962557 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sizeof(void*)?
< 1371706081 212828 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: let me quote a footnote in C99: In particular, if == is defined for type T, then x == y does not imply that memcmp(&x, &y, sizeof (T)) == 0.
< 1371706087 695653 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it can be an upper bound though, right?
< 1371706091 647953 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371706102 939625 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it can't be a lower bound, but it can be an upper one, which is what shachaf asked for, right?  or did I misunderstand
< 1371706130 981193 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: void *y;   char *x = (char*)&y;   I guess?
< 1371706163 786845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well, sure you can write that code. I'm not sure whether it's actually allowed.
< 1371706167 603341 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is guaranteed that a conformant C program cannot access the infinite memory (but it can access the arbitrarily large memory).
< 1371706180 465721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Guaranteed where?
< 1371706199 819746 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, sorry, wait a min, I may have misread the spec,
< 1371706208 745812 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought intptr_t is mandatory but it wasn't
< 1371706218 299540 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :intptr_t is mandatory in C99, I think?
< 1371706224 235717 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(any integer types including intptr_t are guaranteed to be finite)
< 1371706237 474567 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, intptr_t is just "a type big enough to hold any pointer", isn't it?  like, it's allowed to be bigger than void*
< 1371706254 81798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's still an upper bound, like you said.
< 1371706257 599876 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so I thought it is an ultimate upper bound.
< 1371706263 564261 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not tight one of course0
< 1371706265 744306 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)*
< 1371706275 50912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you're allowed to cast to intptr_t and back that's enough...
< 1371706278 700363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be larger than 2^(sizeof(void*)*CHAR_BIT)... right...?
< 1371706285 475503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371706300 113391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The goal was to figure out whether you can make a Turing-complete implementation of C, though.
< 1371706335 491698 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, sizeof() is guaranteed to return a finite result (the value of the result is implementation-defined, and not an undefined behavior)
< 1371706354 157426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure.
< 1371706355 567343 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and CHAR_BIT should be finite either
< 1371706359 594746 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh...
< 1371706363 345080 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so void* should be finite too
< 1371706364 148069 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I didn't realize the context
< 1371706372 26681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: void * has a finite sizeof.
< 1371706386 552255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question was whether via a tricky reading of the rules you could have more than that many void * values.
< 1371706402 571686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, in particular infinitely many.)
< 1371706408 225960 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not
< 1371706419 509073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The intptr_t argument seems convincing, I guess.
< 1371706458 766912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, my stackoverflow question is up to 50 votes.
< 1371706460 108757 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since C requires every non-bit-field values ("objects" in the spec) to be stored as an array of bytes of CHAR_BIT bits
< 1371706463 858977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that one of you?
< 1371706467 175904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't get a badge.
< 1371706490 758703 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such representation is explicitly called an "object representation"
< 1371706498 99137 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and should exist for any non-bit-field values
< 1371706506 439246 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including void*
< 1371706531 282118 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact, this also prohibits a native implementation of C in ternary computers)
< 1371706582 935925 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, language lawyering is fun!
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< 1371707189 964247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey there are four operating RBMK reactors (Chernobyl design) about 233 km from Helsinki
< 1371707411 643972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 70 km from St. Petersburg
< 1371707428 532015 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they like, upgraded
< 1371707440 992206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know
< 1371707460 46727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fundamentally unsafe design
< 1371707471 407597 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, cool
< 1371707565 593744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBMK#Design_flaws_and_safety_issues
< 1371707576 902353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"based on 1950s Soviet technology and optimized for speed of production over redundancy, the RBMK was designed and constructed with several design characteristics that proved dangerously unstable when operated outside their design specifications"
< 1371707578 777622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBMK#Design_flaws_and_safety_issues
< 1371707587 923188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :httpschaf
< 1371707594 86159 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy
< 1371707720 116075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :soviet power plus irradiation of the whole country
< 1371707788 207578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link mentions a few post-chernobyl improvements
< 1371707902 65787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that comforting
< 1371707935 222807 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Legasov's death from suicide, " uh, whoa
< 1371708094 36246 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scram is usually cited as being an acronym for safety control rod axe man"
< 1371708132 691185 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«When I showed up on the balcony on that December 2, 1942 afternoon, I was ushered to the balcony rail, handed a well sharpened fireman's ax and told, "if the safety rods fail to operate, cut that manila rope."» haha
< 1371708148 560618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the life of a grad student
< 1371708180 375176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although Koehler did not serve as a rope-cutting control rod axe-man, he was responsible for dumping a bucket of aqueous cadmium solution into the reactor if reactor period entered into the sub-optimal range"
< 1371708184 392091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the sub-optimal range"
< 1371708488 763206 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"at which point the rods would fall by gravity into the reactor core"
< 1371708508 277513 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they fall by _gravity_
< 1371708540 715431 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1371708546 147906 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not in the same article anymore.
< 1371708570 132001 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scram i'm in this one in case you aren't doing the exact same random walk.
< 1371708588 772505 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1371708592 827423 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i solved the mystery
< 1371708602 54852 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't get there from the link but from googling what you said.
< 1371708710 250722 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird cultural difference i guess.
< 1371708760 965138 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :really there's never a need to link something if the other person happens to have google
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< 1371711056 270517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :☹     ☹
< 1371711058 949872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  · ·
< 1371711061 360865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :   ☹
< 1371711063 815400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :  /‾\
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< 1371711071 369002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/     \
< 1371711092 680727 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371711500 487004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what / why
< 1371711536 81034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i made it for a different channel but then i decided not to spam
< 1371711539 867883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it tho
< 1371711542 810207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think i saw it before
< 1371711550 715310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be a new version
< 1371711558 289773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. 2.0
< 1371711570 350424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not to spam "that channel" i mean...................well this channel might be unspammable)
< 1371711593 874959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when are you inventing the esolang "Main Page."..............................
< 1371711599 232293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome kmc
< 1371711604 638096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371711614 688342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :later / neer
< 1371711618 708572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ never
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< 1371715190 886768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the school i'm enrolled in it super hilly, to the extent that there's a place called Johnson Flats, which is not flat and is on a hill <-- wait aren't you in luxembourg i'm confuse
< 1371715233 90527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least somewhere european without english as first language
< 1371715266 192003 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada?
< 1371715301 551733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada is not somewhere european without english as first language, olsner 
< 1371715347 465347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't Bike in washington state usa
< 1371715420 604625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwest.net seems to be owned by centurylink, which looks distinctly us
< 1371715420 869880 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, sorry for trying :(
< 1371715447 169930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'VE BEEN DECEIVED
< 1371715487 31039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/owned/swallowed by/
< 1371715597 507132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan made the neighbour prediction before taneb said he lived in northumberland <-- i think north (east?) england had been mentioned, though
< 1371715664 933444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs next door
< 1371715706 352208 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24031
< 1371715722 892026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: chop chop
< 1371715797 530359 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had said Northern
< 1371715808 931928 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-07-12#195258oerjan
< 1371715960 102498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was just looking for that
< 1371716212 680247 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371716452 671037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastaquotes
< 1371716453 742136 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastaquotes: not found
< 1371716458 566674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastaquote
< 1371716459 909108 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :973)  I think pastaquote should just quote me
< 1371716464 557683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1371717032 463755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes atriq
< 1371717037 822878 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28558
< 1371717040 234155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: YOU MISSED ONE
< 1371717064 54482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf there are no atriq quotes
< 1371717067 334363 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikr
< 1371717120 946355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only conclude that atriq is your bumbling hyde personality
< 1371717132 199916 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe...
< 1371717138 944478 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe atriq is the Jekyll!
< 1371717149 423483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, not very eloquent
< 1371717171 288483 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I just didn't use atriq as much
< 1371717175 873087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i just wondered...
< 1371717211 188405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no there cannot be any trailing space because it wasn't made by nick completion
< 1371717229 591293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Taneb 
< 1371717233 880138 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do `pastequotes atriq because I knew there weren't any
< 1371717234 955449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16568
< 1371717258 983094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho hum...
< 1371717269 786079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this cannot be right either
< 1371717276 839503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Taneb 
< 1371717281 701409 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.2234
< 1371717304 556116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes Taneb
< 1371717309 471369 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27739
< 1371717351 874417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there really are no quotes where Taneb is followed by space
< 1371717361 520202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, this doesn't help with atriq
< 1371717537 521982 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1371717608 335733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nobody knows what happened to Facekicker for the past 8 years, though
< 1371717628 347838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we _really_ absolutely sure they're different elliotts twh
< 1371717642 690236 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Facekicker's actually an Eliot
< 1371717648 47664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1371717649 474921 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371717700 261725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might assume facekicker went on to a promising career in either kung fu movies or crime.
< 1371717729 205129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, why not boh
< 1371717731 368843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*both
< 1371717965 789081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you google elliott hird it's a mix of elliott and a kitchen planner
< 1371717981 210779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly his blog needs more posts hth
< 1371718360 927703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  “Haiers Medical-Circular Stapler For Rectal Prolapse And Hemorrhoids.wmv” /me refrains from clicking   good choice   Yes, i’m pretty happy about it.
< 1371718361 803084 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371718364 527935 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1056)  “Haiers Medical-Circular Stapler For Rectal Prolapse And Hemorrhoids.wmv” /me refrains from clicking   good choice   Yes, i’m pretty happy about it.
< 1371718373 955993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen kmc
< 1371718378 544592 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-20 08:02:27:  isn't Bike in washington state usa
< 1371718384 590860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen shachaf
< 1371718388 752402 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-20 08:53:04:  `seen shachaf
< 1371718408 109848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1371718995 583966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://modernjavascript.blogspot.com/2013/06/monads-in-plain-javascript.html
< 1371718997 731995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old Maybe
< 1371719133 694532 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371726903 575021 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1371726970 374646 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1371727056 695700 :dedda1994!5ed938cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.217.56.204 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371727071 462019 :dedda1994!5ed938cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.217.56.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys
< 1371727141 894402 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome dedda1994
< 1371727144 304041 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dedda1994: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371727147 289770 :Deewiant_!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi NICK :Deewiant
< 1371727494 54172 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1371727610 841936 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371732750 532725 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: This is best monad tutorial.
< 1371733075 418559 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371736347 603185 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371740096 318449 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@183.181.16.72 NICK :hogeyui
< 1371740130 142830 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@183.181.16.72 NICK :hogeyui_
< 1371740132 879121 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@183.181.16.72 NICK :hogeyui
< 1371740439 384972 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371740777 948915 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1371740990 897094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi clog
< 1371741174 862747 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371744247 700268 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi clog.
< 1371744284 315323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike
< 1371744303 680376 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
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< 1371744374 733611 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott 
< 1371744409 298237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike
< 1371744422 626029 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371744733 871772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::')
< 1371744765 107955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know about the identify-msg IRC CAP
< 1371744768 592029 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet one of the finns do
< 1371744771 42636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Deewiant hey ion
< 1371744826 131370 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never heard of it
< 1371744848 487214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1371744895 32036 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like bullshit
< 1371745943 674296 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371747082 167160 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371747814 182825 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371748273 677578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371748910 675792 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a bunch of groups, all of different sizes, then the groups are totally ordered by order.
< 1371749054 780497 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371749088 160259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan
< 1371749108 50326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf
< 1371749113 51332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott 
< 1371749114 866641 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello shachaf
< 1371749141 882352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that's like totally rad
< 1371749150 768585 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, hello *everybody*
< 1371749156 576394 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe
< 1371749161 166142 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371749165 853661 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everybody except clog and elliott 
< 1371749174 871885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helsner
< 1371749177 760176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/mcdonalds-considering-franchising-restaurants-afte,32897/
< 1371749218 59091 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, everybody in all possible worlds.
< 1371749271 140193 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's awefully inclusive of you
< 1371749278 215744 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world is changing, and frankly we’re running out of family members who speak Mandarin
< 1371749470 183506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw did you know mcdonalds isn't a trademark in scotland, and they need the actual clan's permission to use it?
< 1371749534 516567 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explains why they only sell the McHaggis Quarter Pounder with Bladder there.
< 1371749536 330873 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that's fantastic
< 1371749578 577244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: McDonald's was originally named cDonald's, after the theorem. the famous arches were originally circular.
< 1371749626 999435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess using "circular" ruins that
< 1371749635 729254 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why?
< 1371749641 466331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a cDonald theorem?
< 1371749660 481793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you seen look around you.
< 1371749671 813188 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cDonald's%20Theorem
< 1371749683 185927 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371749690 90066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J9MRYJz9-4#t=24s
< 1371749768 529376 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how they pronounce "cDonald"
< 1371749923 390243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm wondering if what i said was actually true.
< 1371749954 20511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the following looks like a counterargument: "The company has threatened many food businesses with legal action unless it drops the Mc or Mac from trading names. In one noteworthy case, McDonald's sued a Scottish café owner called McDonald, even though the business in question dated back over a century (Sheriff Court Glasgow and Strathkelvin, November 21, 1952)."
< 1371750030 683290 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :MacGregor's Quarter Pounder with Scotch
< 1371750046 934200 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371750213 451807 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the clan thing might have been established later
< 1371750564 448948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm looks more and more dubious
< 1371750573 228510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragic
< 1371750597 74630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes me wonder where i first read it
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< 1371752784 880276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fortunately, there's no requirement at all for "did you know that X?" statements to actually be true.
< 1371752812 183584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Fortunately,/did you know that/ hth
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< 1371753331 19235 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott
< 1371753351 311036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: hi do you know about identify-msg CAP
< 1371753397 327951 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371753403 851921 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371753435 785035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you suck
< 1371753437 969131 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371753473 467679 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know now.
< 1371753520 169000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do you know enough to answer my questions about it
< 1371753542 926382 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me travel to the future to find out.
< 1371753853 23223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a cap, and when you equip it, it may randomly identify items hth
< 1371753987 20712 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sorry, no. It only identities monosodium glutamate.
< 1371754155 497821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like something triangle and robert could have used
< 1371754602 907389 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the hell do I like PHP on Facebook
< 1371754756 207078 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't any more
< 1371755032 804842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :php has a facebook?
< 1371755091 56059 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1371755872 438393 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371755896 227718 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371756210 619719 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371756427 640875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meet hot single in YOUR area who like PHP
< 1371756480 506172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot singleton
< 1371756487 551287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meet hot shot young hustler jesus in your area
< 1371756592 314852 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371756641 576651 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1371756741 62513 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371756875 587829 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.facebook.com/PHP   wow
< 1371756914 266368 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yeah! Not a day to soon. Death to C# and java B)"
< 1371756950 902036 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the changelog's a bit scary
< 1371756952 513510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added ARMv7/v8 versions of various Zend arithmetic functions that are implemented using inline assembler
< 1371756964 346266 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have three FB friends who like PHP. D-:
< 1371756971 859350 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man they added finally. finally
< 1371756976 818332 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, they're already doing ARMv8 stuff
< 1371756983 25708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time someone mentions Zend i think of Zond
< 1371757001 712604 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kneel before zend
< 1371757012 692448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N1_rocket
< 1371757016 210229 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Added support for using empty() on the result of function calls and other expressions" huh?
< 1371757023 641622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each of the four attempts to launch an N1 failed; during the second launch attempt the N1 rocket crashed back onto its launch pad shortly after liftoff and exploded, resulting in one of the largest artificial non-nuclear explosion in human history"
< 1371757033 346386 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooow.  30 main engines @_@
< 1371757053 479891 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fixed bug #64515 (Memoryleak when using the same variablename 2times in function declaration)" um
< 1371757059 147334 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :entertainingly those engines are actually the ones being used in the 'new' nasa cargo rocket they were showing off a while back
< 1371757064 814471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After detecting the inoperative fuel pump, the automatic engine control shut off 29 of 30 engines, which caused the rocket to fall."
< 1371757068 558443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good programming imo
< 1371757071 367060 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371757093 808087 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, i've heard of N1, isn't it the one that vaporized half the engineers in the soviet union
< 1371757101 398160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:36:55  "Added support for using empty() on the result of function calls and other expressions" huh?
< 1371757106 792580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :php has a lot of nice things which only work on variable names
< 1371757109 476777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no apparent reason
< 1371757112 153660 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, ...maybe
< 1371757114 30307 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't 30 engines like a redundancy nightmare? @_@  that's a lot of parts
< 1371757117 783922 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good, good
< 1371757121 369701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to assign stuff to variables a lot to be able to like index them as arrays or whatever
< 1371757122 751902 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if just one fails it'd throw things off balance, right?
< 1371757124 358409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no good reason
< 1371757137 392656 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that thing was an icbm prototype
< 1371757141 734600 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, depends
< 1371757151 992398 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh
< 1371757161 219207 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have 30 then it's not that big a torque and you might be able to correct with your control systems
< 1371757164 698120 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1371757167 420774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i thought it was an R-7 test
< 1371757174 367308 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they did when one of the engines in the falcon 9 test failed
< 1371757176 775884 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=64523 what the /hell/
< 1371757189 477446 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When destination folder of a copy haven't enough place, copy reports success instead of failure.
< 1371757222 916525 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed bug #64895 (Integer overflow in SndToJewish)
< 1371757237 603380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371757245 597188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sndtojewish
< 1371757261 214830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can i hire you to work out how to get a good deal on EC2 for me
< 1371757270 749793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's about the hebrew calendar?
< 1371757280 674544 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@g jdtojewish
< 1371757280 938485 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: gazetteer get-shapr get-topic ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki v @ ? .
< 1371757283 654284 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.
< 1371757286 60351 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google jdtojewish
< 1371757287 934095 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://php.net/manual/en/function.jdtojewish.php
< 1371757288 139187 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: PHP: jdtojewish - Manual
< 1371757292 753501 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is girl19
< 1371757308 142487 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Converts a Julian day count to a Jewish calendar date"
< 1371757310 820938 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i need that.
< 1371757328 710684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should definitely be in the default global namespace
< 1371757385 167334 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man it doesn't even report a bad value, it just hangs
< 1371757390 309148 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how great is that
< 1371757393 296268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :php great
< 1371757413 324987 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«That is, you cannot do `SELF::CNST` or `SELF::$VAR` or `SELF::METHOD()`. But it's possible to use `constant("SELF::CNST")` or `call_user_func` with uppercase `SELF` keyword.»
< 1371757446 635558 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«if use '@', you can call function in a string substitution context.» help
< 1371757475 830850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paging elliott
< 1371757484 214745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should put a highlight on @
< 1371757486 977140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61681 you need this feature, imo
< 1371757540 230843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@get-sh
< 1371757540 436041 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shapr!!
< 1371757542 907879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so weird
< 1371757545 660428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@t
< 1371757545 865662 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: tell thank you thanks thesaurus thx tic-tac-toe ticker time todo todo-add todo-delete type v @ ? .
< 1371757546 464392 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19
< 1371757546 731654 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1371757547 257012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@te
< 1371757547 462398 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who should I tell?
< 1371757550 1536 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19
< 1371757550 270113 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL
< 1371757550 475152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371757554 830028 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems dumb
< 1371757555 409916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19
< 1371757555 615443 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always found myself unequal to the intellectual pressure of programming
< 1371757557 821777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371757559 207281 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um.
< 1371757561 352530 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help girl19
< 1371757561 557735 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl19 wonders what "discriminating hackers" are.
< 1371757564 336811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19
< 1371757564 542087 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. I never hacked Russians
< 1371757564 747190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19
< 1371757564 747276 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in Moscow, Russia
< 1371757564 747322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19
< 1371757564 952227 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have stolen about 50 msn and yahoo accounts
< 1371757564 952335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@girl19
< 1371757564 952382 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I supposed to be frantic with terror and anxiety?
< 1371757577 384700 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all need a db of all these damn injokes
< 1371757593 661861 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey. "This extension is now deprecated, and deprecation warnings will be generated when connections are established to databases via mysql_connect(), mysql_pconnect(), or through implicit connection: use MySQLi or PDO_MySQL instead"
< 1371757596 108747 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey i have a lambdabot proposal "can you guess what it is"
< 1371757603 734083 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how many security bugs that would remove
< 1371757612 660370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great how there's no uniform db api in php
< 1371757618 633725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally different functions for mysql, postgres, etc
< 1371757626 33432 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder whether i should remove the unique prefix behaviour along with the specialcasing of unique spell corrections
< 1371757635 322175 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generator is an internal class, so there shouldn't be an ability to create it by hand. However, the Generator class doesn't have a private constructor and instance of it can be created via ReflectionClass. 
< 1371757639 417731 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution: add a private constructor for this class to prevent instantiation (like for Closure class).
< 1371757642 641646 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome and rad
< 1371757652 664200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking more along the lines of removing @girl19.
< 1371757671 601917 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed bug #60097 (token_get_all fails to lex nested heredoc)
< 1371757674 601182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The prefix thing is OK.
< 1371757699 793266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was ignoring your proposal actually
< 1371757706 137847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is something i was already looking into!!
< 1371757706 941179 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=64765 these are so great
< 1371757767 65012 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok uh, this SndToJewish thing is listed as being fixed, three different times
< 1371757782 489256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what list are you reading
< 1371757804 835399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Snd... "standard"?  it looks like "sound"
< 1371757807 252874 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the changelog http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php
< 1371757832 129927 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.scip.ch/en/?vuldb.9021 oh my god.
< 1371757840 813489 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my new favorite bug
< 1371757871 445680 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woow
< 1371757885 512359 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sndtojewish thing resulted in a critical exploit? geez
< 1371757911 976990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean there are reasons not to stuff every library into the core of your language
< 1371757921 181095 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=54096   geez these are really weird
< 1371757959 341457 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :php has a built in julian to hebrew calendar conversion function, fiora. it is beyond weird.
< 1371757984 548399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean like I feel like I'm missing 90% of this
< 1371757986 228535 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"comparsion of incomplete DateTime causes SIGSEGV" good, good
< 1371757992 741959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PHP defines -0 as an int", but wouldn't -0 just resolve to 0?
< 1371758000 243367 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in php it wouldn't
< 1371758012 520401 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's this filter function that "checks if values are ints", but if you wanted to see if a float was int, wouldn't you just do if( floor(f) == f )?
< 1371758022 838994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... well I guess there's infinities and things
< 1371758038 585354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... if( (float)(int)f == f )?
< 1371758048 124673 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is bad
< 1371758057 682994 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um... explain? >_<
< 1371758066 516002 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea
< 1371758073 618778 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know php, i just see endless insane bug reports
< 1371758102 466963 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole "this is an interpreted language but it works differently on 32-bit and 64-bit" seems really weird too
< 1371758118 470100 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one bug where the put in inline amd64 assembly but didn't conditionalize it
< 1371758121 534613 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj people
< 1371758124 547566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@
< 1371758134 29046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: sadly ghc haskell has that too
< 1371758138 318971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int is platform-dependent size
< 1371758177 514903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well ghc is primarily a compiler so depending on your interpretation of "that"
< 1371758187 503336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it has many traits people relate to "interpreted languages", of course
< 1371758209 366361 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't int platform-dependent in C
< 1371758213 244194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I meant for high level languages
< 1371758214 852274 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does... does php have data types?
< 1371758215 656052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes
< 1371758239 596496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean having a type that's defined to have a max that varies by platform seems fine to me
< 1371758240 938758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing worse than platform-dependent sized Int is platform-independent sized Int
< 1371758260 153678 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus doesn't the haskell standard say it has to be at least 2^31 or whatever
< 1371758267 392235 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1371758270 373076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, but like, it has builtin functions that work differently on 32-bit and 64-bit which seems really weird
< 1371758275 233126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: makes semantics of haskell programs much less clear, causes portability problems, severely hurts distributed computing
< 1371758275 438270 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: not as you know them. not as any of us know thelm
< 1371758275 767917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mandated range is just -2^29 .. 2^29-1
< 1371758292 400688 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it hurt distributed computing
< 1371758293 776665 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371758301 120691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :allowing 32-bit implementations to reserve 2 bits for tagging
< 1371758319 16360 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371758323 839227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: because you have a single program where multiple parts of it run on heterogeneous machines
< 1371758334 898599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Int means different things at different points of your program
< 1371758338 276615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can store different values
< 1371758346 453013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will get messed up communicating between agents that disagree about its size
< 1371758349 704190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, for portability it's better to use Integer?
< 1371758353 991782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to completely avoid Int if you want sanity
< 1371758361 687551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: or the fixed-size Int32/Int64
< 1371758364 339462 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh
< 1371758384 15815 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Int32 fit in 32-bit?  or like, does it not fit because of tag bits?
< 1371758397 151956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's boxed :x
< 1371758403 852106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is actually a pointer to a 32-bit integer
< 1371758413 414223 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh
< 1371758413 680765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except GHC can automatically unbox it when you use it as a strict field of a data type with optimisations and blah blah blah)
< 1371758416 634184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so it's not quite as bad as it sounds)
< 1371758419 47138 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Int boxed?
< 1371758424 446848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371758429 73868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so *everything* is boxed?
< 1371758436 148400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pointer to a machine integer, actually -- just the operations on it truncate to 32 bits.
< 1371758437 834336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less (GHC has unboxed types that are fiddly to use)
< 1371758449 199020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have like a tight numerical loop though GHC will usually be able to unbox everything "at the start"
< 1371758450 2497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, only boxed values are first-class in Haskell in general.
< 1371758456 857834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then work with unboxed values for the loop itself
< 1371758457 394704 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, if I have an array of 1 million ints, will it be 1 million boxes, or a box with 1 million things?
< 1371758467 865000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are both boxed and unboxed arrays
< 1371758473 800470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can be either depending on which is better
< 1371758476 750735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use an unboxed array it'll have 1 million Ints.
< 1371758477 824142 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh
< 1371758486 515471 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a boxed array will have 1 million unboxed ints?
< 1371758500 971732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it'll have a million boxes.
< 1371758501 177005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 million boxed ints
< 1371758508 420723 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  I thought ints were boxed
< 1371758520 251123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, I think we mixed up something at some point
< 1371758522 663897 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an "unboxed array" means a boxed array of unboxed things, probably
< 1371758524 541860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(un)boxed array" means it's an array of (un)boxed things.
< 1371758524 809818 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh
< 1371758528 601307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371758533 425079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so an unboxed array of 1m ints is 4 megabytes
< 1371758536 376186 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on 32-bit)
< 1371758537 180895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an unboxed array of Ints knows what Ints are a box around
< 1371758540 168115 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a boxed one would be 8 megabytes?
< 1371758540 972225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus epsilon
< 1371758541 239281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stores that instead
< 1371758554 14248 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: depending on sizes of boxes etc.
< 1371758555 89043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well, boxed values have like additional pointers in addition to the actual data they store
< 1371758556 692234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably more than 8 megabytes...
< 1371758563 806527 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boxed arrays can have lazy values can't they
< 1371758567 136321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to facilitate lazy evaluation and such
< 1371758573 88092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it means access has a lot more indirection in a boxed array
< 1371758581 439939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: right
< 1371758586 538169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a boxed Int takes two machine words, and the pointer in the array takes an additional machine word.
< 1371758591 668448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fwiw, advantage of boxed arrays is that they can store everything, whereas unboxed arrays need to know things about what they store, and you can store thunks (unfinished computations) in boxed arrays, whereas in unboxed arrays you can only store evaluated results, so no fancy laziness tricks)
< 1371758593 276352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every element is a pointer to a heap object, which can be a thunk
< 1371758603 579438 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, boxed values have more than just the value itself plus a pointer to it?
< 1371758611 180598 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well since this is haskell
< 1371758615 239303 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lazy values
< 1371758628 628258 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1371758635 710821 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which like kmc said are thunky
< 1371758637 87838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right it's important to note that an Int value might be a pointer to *some code*
< 1371758640 709020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you haven't evaluated yet
< 1371758648 880864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but an unboxed integer is just a plain old integer
< 1371758653 552005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: a 'boxed value' is a heap object, or a pointer to one.  heap objects have a uniform structure, the first word is always a pointer to an 'info table'
< 1371758664 969896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they have zero or more data fields which can have different sizes
< 1371758673 71832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the uniformity is what allows polymorphic code to work
< 1371758681 481514 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... so it'd be at least 12 megabytes
< 1371758683 624681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can force evaluation of a heap object without knowing its type
< 1371758684 963349 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :minus laziness?
< 1371758686 873907 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but uh, when you say can store everything, they're uniformly typed anyway aren't they
< 1371758701 699670 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am probably looking at this totally wrong and thinking of haskell as if it was like C <.<
< 1371758703 76566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless some of the Ints are shared, anyway.
< 1371758710 89074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might find the STG machine paper interesting if you're interested in the details of how this stuff works, though I think it's fairly different in GHC nowadays (in particular their "spineless tagless G-machine" has tags???)
< 1371758714 106719 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you can't really reason about storage very well, can you?
< 1371758720 647790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah but I mean you can make an Array a for any a
< 1371758722 527805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps http://spl.smugmug.com/Humor/Lambdacats/13227630_j2MHcg/960526161_XwKHSBM#!i=960526161&k=XwKHSBM&lb=1&s=L can clarify.
< 1371758725 282017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have the kind of tags they're talking about not having in the STG paper
< 1371758732 323111 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas like an unboxed array will require some condition on what "a" is so it knows how to store it unboxed
< 1371758733 663577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC doesn't use tag bits to distinguish pointers from integers
< 1371758739 861635 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody here linked me to a paper where whatshisname was like "you can reason about space! weird, huh"
< 1371758741 508957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does use tag bits on pointers to mark things which are already known to be evaluated
< 1371758762 46073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not impossible to reason about space usage of Haskell programs, but it's definitely less simple than in C or whatever
< 1371758804 201423 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also sharing, like if you store 4+7 into an array a million times it'll all use the same thunk?
< 1371758807 186567 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right?
< 1371758814 31129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you store the "same" 4+7
< 1371758814 723631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :into a boxed array yeah
< 1371758822 671619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll store the same pointer a bajillion times
< 1371758824 11755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let x = 4+7 in listArray [0,1000] (repeat x)
< 1371758852 575007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4+7 is sort of a bad example since it might get like constant folded and stuff but the principle, yeah
< 1371758855 53069 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, does ghc not pick out common subexpressions like that
< 1371758862 216099 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does it very conservatively
< 1371758867 991560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can introduce bad space leaks that way
< 1371758869 675383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, it'll get shared whether it's an unevaluated thunk or not.
< 1371758869 943419 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i figured but it's easier to say than (foo y)
< 1371758893 647017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does GHC not like preallocate a bunch of Ints for small values?
< 1371758894 183777 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyway, to sum up, fiora, php is dumb
< 1371758898 547782 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would distort the idea
< 1371758954 893743 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed bug #43177 (Errors in eval()'ed code produce status code 500).
< 1371758977 345456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay...
< 1371758981 898706 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um, unrelatedly, http://eprint.iacr.org/2013/404.pdf
< 1371758993 663468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sharing is p. cool.  in Haskell if you implement a binary tree with an insert function, in the most obvious naive way, you get a cool persistent data structure where new versions of the tree share nodes with old ones
< 1371759004 268359 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: wassat.
< 1371759021 234638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this isn't some crazy compiler optimization either, it's p. much fundamental to the language's data model
< 1371759021 541199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that requires changing your notion of "obvious"
< 1371759025 521734 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a super lightweight block cipher
< 1371759039 907090 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh
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< 1371759061 767237 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With regard to throughput, we note that the fastest reported software implementation of AES-128 available on an Atmel 8-bit microcontroller has a cost of 125 cycles/byte, and uses 1912 bytes of flash and 432 bytes of SRAM [BOSC10]. For a slight decrease in speed, the same 
< 1371759065 787251 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementers offer a more balanced implementation with a cost of 135 cycles/byte, using 1912 bytes of flash and 176 bytes of SRAM. Our high-speed Speck128/128 implementation has comparable throughput, at 139 cycles/byte, but uses only 388 bytes of flash and 256 bytes of SRAM."
< 1371759084 512855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash
< 1371759090 10164 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a hardware optimized one and a software optimized one
< 1371759093 757498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 139/2
< 1371759094 339760 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardware optimized one can be done in like, ~1300 gates
< 1371759094 911101 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  69.5
< 1371759101 142924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only 69.5 bicycles/byte!
< 1371759105 695009 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... shachaf XD
< 1371759113 775407 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good rate.
< 1371759133 354637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, half these bugs are about segfaults
< 1371759157 579561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost like the PHP interpreter is a C program written by idiots
< 1371759164 191482 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fixed bug #63369 ((un)serialize() leaves dangling pointers, causes crashes)"
< 1371759223 26070 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed bug #62896 ("DateTime->modify('+0 days')" modifies DateTime object) <-- what.
< 1371759296 897186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also laziness is important if you want good performance from persistent data structures
< 1371759310 906116 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright "segfault" is in here 276 times
< 1371759374 462764 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fault", 483.
< 1371759381 7583 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has a lot of "default" though i guess whatever
< 1371759385 628091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog segfault
< 1371759410 398565 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-02-14.txt:20:49:06:  Sweet, I made a megahal brain that segfaults >_>
< 1371759442 507216 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :megahal
< 1371759462 850147 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh man NSA is this Top Secret
< 1371759497 343468 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeheee
< 1371759501 634559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's public I think
< 1371759503 283564 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like just published
< 1371760190 410006 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371760425 736303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is that disaster Bike and Phantom_Hoover referred to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe
< 1371760433 116447 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371760440 248547 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oops, forgot the link)
< 1371760477 854666 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the one.
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< 1371760893 115643 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words
< 1371760896 962899 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ser
< 1371760898 598387 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PART :#esoteric
< 1371761090 946837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeg ser, jeg ser... / Jeg er visst kommet på en feil klode! / Her er så underlig...
< 1371762077 525162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/10-giant-cocks,32276/ attn kmc
< 1371762086 460973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL THEN
< 1371762117 297885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh these aren't that big
< 1371762135 481389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the elephant cock is pretty big
< 1371762224 295858 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the nsa thing keep getting worse. helllllp
< 1371762369 399164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now
< 1371762388 513630 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just looking through @0xabad1dea's feed
< 1371762411 462813 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Speaking your username aloud on a phone call to another country is evidence the person behind the username is foreign" etc
< 1371762436 781325 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371762564 684459 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey. wait a minute. ELLIOTTCABLE is here.
< 1371762569 581649 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's happening
< 1371762695 273116 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ahhhh youtube 502 ahhhhh I cant reach my touhous"
< 1371762701 197381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: NSACABLE
< 1371762737 320080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371763148 991142 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1371763197 933527 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Work done is difference in kinetic energy. Kinetic energy is mass times velocity is force times distance. These are both measured in Joules
< 1371763235 339561 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: see, you just have to have *plush* touhous
< 1371763239 669818 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can reach them whenever !
< 1371763240 744823 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power is energy by time, it is measure in Js^-1 or Watts
< 1371763266 745345 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you taking a kinetics class
< 1371763278 404248 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what if the plush is kidnapped
< 1371763285 862729 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, hopefully past tense. The exam is in less than 11 hours
< 1371763310 61526 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody's kidnapped mine!~
< 1371763335 199409 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://room208.org/booru/data/9160f5fe9e4332617661b5d4f548dcd4.jpg  seee they're all safe and sound
< 1371763356 400612 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, power is also force times velocity?
< 1371763408 1830 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1371763409 76386 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371763416 493318 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i'm pretty sure there are so many you could easily lose one
< 1371763417 951646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS SUMMER... THE COCKS COLLIDE   (it was a video)
< 1371763418 157366 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!
< 1371763448 558463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't lost any!
< 1371763450 970134 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep good track of my friends
< 1371763499 164039 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why is there a meduka there who did she eat
< 1371763499 430916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about non-plush friends
< 1371763502 113185 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sure is, uh
< 1371763503 759610 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :organised
< 1371763504 832228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plush or minush
< 1371763525 282166 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only responsible for friends who live in my apartment <.<;
< 1371763545 850264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: How often do they double?
< 1371763549 657928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm
< 1371763556 434623 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And potential energy is mass times height times the gravitational constant
< 1371763559 758038 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see. I had like half as many ~12-16 months ago ish?
< 1371763567 800079 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at Taneb 

< 1371763570 852355 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout
< 1371763580 238167 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, trout
< 1371763601 353479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: OK, so let's say it's like Moore's law.
< 1371763633 944564 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it seems a little quicker than Moore's law
< 1371763644 201687 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's more like an S curve?
< 1371763654 738590 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the optimal plushie count
< 1371763675 468477 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... not sure there is one in particular?
< 1371763675 737413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: one more than whatever you have right now hth
< 1371763676 272262 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the hell is Hitchin
< 1371763700 183242 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you said s curve
< 1371763711 590105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the asymptote!
< 1371763726 327363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm mostly running out, I don't have many touhou ones I don't have I think
< 1371763729 808443 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most are like, permanently out of sto k
< 1371763735 474192 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's new ones but only like, every reitaisai
< 1371763739 503695 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see like three reimus
< 1371763749 58512 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two!
< 1371763750 988021 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you trade two of them for a more obscure touhou
< 1371763763 150149 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you fashion one into another
< 1371763776 22795 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make custom plushies but it's a lot of sewing work and stuff
< 1371763798 281969 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking more... cosmetic surger
< 1371763798 854219 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y
< 1371763827 727058 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :marisa -> maribel let's make it happen
< 1371763869 636876 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have to make new clothes and stuff <:
< 1371763871 246646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember something about http://www.geocities.jp/igarashi_lab/plushie/index-e.html from a SIGGRAPH.
< 1371763920 587056 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I totally should have gotten all the madoka plushies when they were still in stock though
< 1371763946 992334 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm away for an hour and people start talking about touhou-plushies, what is this?
< 1371763967 401994 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora happened
< 1371763968 472236 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##fiorateric
< 1371763998 802819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :##fiora is a thing.
< 1371763999 8069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: are you somehow... surprised by #esoteric's drifting topic
< 1371764000 718887 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: cute
< 1371764003 666205 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you been here forever
< 1371764003 934302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Fiora left!
< 1371764028 142564 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I have
< 1371764039 546182 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you been touhou forever
< 1371764040 385330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: There are four people in ##fiora now!
< 1371764045 477863 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: https://room208.org/booru/data/9160f5fe9e4332617661b5d4f548dcd4.jpg  um, I posted this
< 1371764053 102137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't want us to talk about you behind your back, would you?
< 1371764065 541901 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, that's alot
< 1371764070 946341 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that doesn't sound like a creepy threat at all shachaf
< 1371764077 459223 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaaaf
< 1371764077 995173 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1371764087 999052 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :##fiora: now w/ fiora
< 1371764089 603543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :-(
< 1371764099 357330 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about four years of accumulated plushies!  they're good for filling the rest of a queen size bed
< 1371764100 428432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: no threat intended
< 1371764102 845258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371764116 673341 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you just make the bed out of plushies
< 1371764127 470403 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need a queen size bed! double beds are bourgeoisie
< 1371764133 794759 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh for all the plushies
< 1371764134 333448 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371764150 841225 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like $50 or $100 extra?  and I like being able to roll around and sprawl out and stuff
< 1371764157 380307 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I kind of have a bad tendency to somehow steal all the blankets
< 1371764163 94589 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from yourself
< 1371764166 115834 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371764171 288519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i think you will find that big beds are the best, hth.
< 1371764180 235399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott knows his stuff
< 1371764183 256318 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that, yourself!!
< 1371764183 795474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true
< 1371764205 89518 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can basically lie down on it in any direction and fit
< 1371764207 613739 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i slept in a tiny bunk bed since i was like 3 and you don't hear me complaining!
< 1371764211 634166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's hard to fit more than two people in a bed smaller than a queen
< 1371764213 621903 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :check your short privilege, fiora
< 1371764214 731032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: have you considered getting a cat hth
< 1371764221 132900 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have!  I'm also allergic
< 1371764224 999593 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I stlil want a cat
< 1371764232 168170 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a pet you're not allergic to then
< 1371764232 514802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered that life without a cat is no life at all
< 1371764236 34394 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a tarantula
< 1371764239 790089 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or seven
< 1371764240 861951 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hundred
< 1371764241 130249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... not good with sipders
< 1371764243 5530 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spiders
< 1371764243 543459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i think it's hard for more than two people to /sleep/ in the same bed, period
< 1371764249 715351 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a snake
< 1371764258 956471 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you tall people can like, get a king or something anyways
< 1371764278 700806 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at school orientation there was one guy tall enough that he didn't fit in the dorm beds
< 1371764281 646795 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. tragic
< 1371764283 253687 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Reading _The Door into Summer_ made me want to live with cats again. :-(
< 1371764294 358613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, I have a double bed but I curl up small
< 1371764294 894525 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he was like seven foot probably)
< 1371764295 99819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :california king
< 1371764307 17580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you going to become king of california
< 1371764310 350599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubtful
< 1371764314 638073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the biggest bed in the universe #drugz
< 1371764316 611435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll vote for you for king hth
< 1371764338 392108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the universe is my bed hth
< 1371764347 513498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's not how king works
< 1371764351 894040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sometimes but rarely
< 1371764357 561153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plushies are good though, I tend to cling to them in my sleep instead of the blankets
< 1371764362 426430 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though sometimes Iflail and knock them onto the floor to
< 1371764377 562120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when i'm king i'll change how king works
< 1371764384 825450 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably quite comfortably sleep in this spinny office chair
< 1371764388 75150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im googling "huge bed" now #drugz
< 1371764389 953886 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, do you have to put them back or you feel guilty
< 1371764401 561650 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually leave them all on there all the time <.<  that was just for the picture
< 1371764407 814775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these beds arent very huge
< 1371764409 960000 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's usually a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle messier
< 1371764440 655999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are just fairly big beds
< 1371764443 405325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come ON google
< 1371764447 756731 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you got a trampoline
< 1371764450 967940 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i should make autonomous plushies
< 1371764451 172981 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put a sheet on it
< 1371764455 556617 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they put themselves back on the bed
< 1371764460 952218 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other advantages: easy to film horror movies
< 1371764461 219877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there official definitions of what these "queen" and "king" sizes are? 
< 1371764465 53588 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, toy story?
< 1371764467 787371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes
< 1371764474 834183 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bed_sizes#Standard_North_American_sizes
< 1371764476 444106 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like toy story but soft
< 1371764483 985992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there furry porn and a picture of some socks. this is the worst image search ever
< 1371764487 12338 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly with jetpacks, because climbing is a pretty hard behavior.
< 1371764488 353958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to try "gigantic bed" instead
< 1371764491 571933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also did you see my terrifying fact about RBMK reactors
< 1371764495 129041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did you already know
< 1371764506 281729 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifying RBMK fact: RBMK is real
< 1371764506 563192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it suggested "biggest bed in the world" lets go with that
< 1371764506 769000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Aw, no ISO beds.
< 1371764526 11980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/07/article-1178094-04D70DB8000005DC-311_634x466.jpg now THATS what i call a big bed
< 1371764527 353607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there an ISO standard on how to make tea?
< 1371764530 114003 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I did not see any fact about RBMK reactors at all.
< 1371764540 158355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but big enough?? imo, no.
< 1371764541 534032 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that's what I call dailymail.co.uk
< 1371764542 793676 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, i don't think that's a proper matress
< 1371764543 634201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there are four operational RBMK reactors about 230 km from Helsinki
< 1371764552 554324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the daily mail good
< 1371764559 831781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it is the opposite of good
< 1371764582 284026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes ISO 3103, although it's not designed to produce the most delicious tea, just a standard tea for comparative purposes
< 1371764614 76083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are they in St. Petersburg or something? 
< 1371764636 93821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you serious
< 1371764649 196158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The method consists in extracting of soluble substances in dried tea leaf, containing in a porcelain or earthenware pot, by means of freshly boiling water, pouring of the liquor into a white porcelain or earthenware bowl, examination of the organoleptic properties of the infused leaf, and of the liquor with or without milk, or both.
< 1371764654 105597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god
< 1371764659 556277 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daily Mail is the newspaper that says "life is getting worse! porn everywhere! immigrants everywhere stealing our jobs! cancer everywhere! foxes everywhere! too many badgers! not enough badgers! immigrants buying our factories and giving us jobs!"
< 1371764669 276820 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The work was the winner of the parodic Ig Nobel Prize for Literature in 1999.
< 1371764671 726364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Unsurprisingly it's originally a British Standard.
< 1371764672 530616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah nearby
< 1371764702 219925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :immigrants stealing our badger cancer
< 1371764707 153148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mnoqy attn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3103
< 1371764707 358201 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371764715 521953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kill-or-cure.herokuapp.com/
< 1371764721 953099 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, goodnight!
< 1371764724 939866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.keepbanderabeautiful.org/earth-hospital-bed-i.jpg
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< 1371764737 490057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a pretty big bed
< 1371764743 433195 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks uncomfortable though.
< 1371764767 380621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"400 - Bad Request"  that's a "bad", not "bed".  (I don't know why happen.)
< 1371764797 35930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no finns allowed
< 1371764802 238251 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. no speech recognisers
< 1371764820 286575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be so.
< 1371764862 133597 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. i recognize speech.
< 1371764874 501150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a bicycle.
< 1371764877 182582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: uh i'm a finn
< 1371764880 822782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: checkmate
< 1371765005 452577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe our common bed widths here are 80, 90, 120, 160 and 180 cm.
< 1371765056 426002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you would have a room that's just all bed
< 1371765060 745372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those numbers make more sense than ours <.<
< 1371765064 287227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really see much of a use for non-bed areas of a room
< 1371765073 701874 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you need an area for your dresser, a hamper
< 1371765076 955456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an area to change clothes, a mirror
< 1371765087 519192 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a nightstand and alarm clock and stuff
< 1371765089 928728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these sound like less efficient uses of space than more bed
< 1371765096 158203 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like, a pathway to exit the room and maybe a bathroom
< 1371765096 963932 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could make one of the walls out of mirror
< 1371765105 647207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: The 120 cm size is kind of a weird, I think, since it's really quite wide for one, but also quite narrow for two. (Still, it's not *that* wide.)
< 1371765124 521129 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you just replaced the floor with a mattress.
< 1371765129 649822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: this is my thinking yes
< 1371765134 1877 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why the "twin" is the smallest size
< 1371765143 693699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, fitting two people on a twin sounds a little uncomfortable
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< 1371765194 933266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fitting two people in any bed is kind of tenuous imo
< 1371765198 151357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I recently saw the layouts of the apartments they're building nearby, and the smallest ones have bedrooms where the bed fills the entire width of the room; there are separate doors out from the bedroom (into the living room area) from both sides of the ends of the room, but you can't go around the bed without going to another room.
< 1371765213 307298 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably fit 2 or 3 of me in my bed  
< 1371765217 970237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/27810/why-do-americans-call-single-beds-twin-beds
< 1371765230 673015 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: but do you
< 1371765234 152296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hey are you doing cloning now
< 1371765249 723935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is why you would want to
< 1371765250 562232 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's kind of the thing I don't have a cloning machine
< 1371765262 237442 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you ever read cavlin + hobbes
< 1371765262 542238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i have a Fiora clone
< 1371765266 63243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==Bike
< 1371765274 192913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a friend would be nice
< 1371765283 74446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our current bed is 160 cm, except you could argue it's not, since in reality it's two 80 cm beds with an extra mattress (160 cm wide, ~5 cm thick) on top to get rid of the gap in the middle.
< 1371765289 779646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you would be too shy to make friends with yourself
< 1371765305 277584 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: flanking maneuevers, sleeping in shifts to avoid being snuck up on
< 1371765449 117685 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure... maybe you're right, shachaf ...
< 1371765496 582167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it would be Fiora^2 shyness
< 1371765575 978447 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I'd know a priori that she was just as much an emotional wreck as I am!
< 1371765643 210231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you feel more comfortable around people who are emotional wrecks?
< 1371765662 346184 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know
< 1371765667 204603 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, everybody's an emotional wreck, so that works out pretty conveniently.
< 1371765691 191714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ChanServ isn't an emotional wreck!
< 1371765753 126490 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you even talked to chanserv
< 1371765760 976970 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chanserv isn't just a slab of meat
< 1371765810 195628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is ChanServ a slab of
< 1371765821 673892 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slabs of meat.
< 1371765847 7965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i failed to find a bed bigger than that one
< 1371765880 519443 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.  I'd have someone to talk with assembly code and stuff about
< 1371765932 977235 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had clones i'd specialize, so that we would have different things to talk about.
< 1371765945 753811 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still keep some genericism because doing one thing is boring.
< 1371765946 557394 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that would be pretty nice
< 1371765947 361399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can talk with us about that!! hth
< 1371765958 95603 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if I can have a fiora who knows all kinds of stuff in other topics and she can teach me lots of things
< 1371765976 466740 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like neurobiolo-- oh, wait, I already have one of those :3
< 1371765979 412527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you had a clone you would probably fight to the death "you're just that aggressive"
< 1371765985 307849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :neurobiolo++
< 1371766033 821333 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: alas i'm not as cute or plushful.
< 1371766044 921625 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yeah i'd probably have at least like, nine clones learn german swordfighting.
< 1371766046 264099 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff you are pretty cute <.<
< 1371766064 838483 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but plushful, nah, i OWN you on that front motherfucker"
< 1371766130 810292 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez plushieful has nothing to do with -me-
< 1371766169 745349 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how do you explain allegations that your bed is filled with plush
< 1371766177 599557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1371766186 924708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like if I had a friend that friend coujld enjoy the plushies too
< 1371766234 967505 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well plush is a universal enjoyedment
< 1371766331 539253 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :german swordfighting as opposed to
< 1371766408 236369 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...all the o               fucking serious
< 1371766410 113501 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.
< 1371766415 21477 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the other kinds of swordfighting?
< 1371766437 719609 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a specifically german kind though
< 1371766449 889710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :germane swordfighting hth
< 1371766456 437054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn germane
< 1371766457 777083 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "germane" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1371766457 982219 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :germane
< 1371766457 982312 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    adj 1: relevant and appropriate; "he asks questions that are
< 1371766457 982360 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :           germane and central to the issue"
< 1371766469 112185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm from now on we say "germane" instead of "on-topic"
< 1371766471 528921 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :germane, the methane analogue with germanium
< 1371766486 940446 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_school_of_fencing
< 1371766490 960753 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you read gunnerkrigg!
< 1371766528 164177 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371766535 471409 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave up on webcomics
< 1371766541 95994 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think university is to blame
< 1371766579 527260 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a shit
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< 1371766646 694746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Higgledy Piggledy / Bicycle Bicycle / pushed his clone button and / heard it go Boink. // Now he can not only / neurobiologize / but also transmogrify; / quoth Bike: "oink oink".
< 1371766704 708474 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bikes don't make that noise >:
< 1371766730 128920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do when you transmogrify them
< 1371766890 124577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, fancy: a 7-plug extension cord, configured such that one hole is a "master", and when you turn off the device connected to that hole, it cuts off four other holes; the idea being that when you turn off your TV, the other related things like externally powered subwoofers and whatnot will also automatically power off.
< 1371766913 142180 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice.
< 1371766925 398509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what they'll invent next! 
< 1371766986 44265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no Great Stagnation.
< 1371767002 912447 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
< 1371767006 668877 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Great Stagnation the thing where we close the patent office because everything's been invented
< 1371767010 414635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: at university they gave us a bunch of those because green!  but most of us didn't have the right use case for them, so they were just a nuisance
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< 1371767072 452887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Stagnation
< 1371767086 569546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't read this
< 1371767114 933077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: My wife's mother was trying to give one away, due to lack of the right use case; it's very possible she got it from somewhere because green.
< 1371767121 695578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just know "There is no Great Stagnation" (from his blog) as a cheeky way to praise a consumer tech gizmo of questionable utility
< 1371767123 843045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drugz i like how this exists
< 1371767142 732382 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugz are important
< 1371767147 869078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drukqs
< 1371767158 25473 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're one of the ishooz of the youf
< 1371767172 212267 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/139464/j-bradford-delong/the-second-great-depression which i read today because literally needing pills just isn't depressing enough
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< 1371767230 35933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"James has stated that the title is not related to drugs, and is 'just a word [he] made up.'"  that's what they always say.
< 1371767276 136382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah right
< 1371767280 540109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucy in the sky with diamonds
< 1371767307 371896 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you accidentally make up drugz
< 1371767349 415256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you go to prizon
< 1371767621 881442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you get Verizon in prizon? 
< 1371767633 430964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only on the horizon
< 1371767656 627021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think i'm addicted to drugz
< 1371767658 245507 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the word
< 1371767673 299219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp time for an intervention
< 1371767677 635339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sunrise over the verizon. (The joke is, Sunrise is an operator too.)
< 1371767714 123399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :intervenzion
< 1371768289 902514 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :over the verizon radar
< 1371768621 322869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks User:Thylacine222
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< 1371771758 334762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a stitch in time saves nine
< 1371771761 677501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etymology[edit]
< 1371771761 883045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the practice of mending a small tear in cloth before it becomes a larger one.
< 1371771764 930219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's what that means
< 1371771811 936399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always thought it was related to _A Wrinkle in Time_??????????
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< 1371772884 346795 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371772933 986289 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371772963 741106 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola:-D
< 1371772979 856245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371772992 198886 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371773056 620420 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hablas ingles
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< 1371773075 488731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is mostly an English-speaking channel
< 1371773082 225141 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo no
< 1371773085 171303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although sometimes it's Finnish or Norwegian instead
< 1371773095 666892 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no entiendo nada
< 1371773098 385505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Swedish!
< 1371773102 679104 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
< 1371773109 744874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome
< 1371773112 964538 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1371773115 126215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm, that's Norwegian, right?
< 1371773121 288052 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hablas español
< 1371773145 954454 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :por que no entiendo nadita
< 1371773171 684054 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaa
< 1371773176 500656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt most people here understand what you're saying
< 1371773194 380165 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hablenmen en castellano
< 1371773330 940091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bienvenido
< 1371773332 279321 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bienvenido? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371773335 290362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr
< 1371773353 119638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tervetuloa
< 1371773355 30184 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tervetuloa: ask shachaf
< 1371773358 851654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
< 1371773371 212594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom
< 1371773372 551148 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.
< 1371773376 672735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom
< 1371773378 280753 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/
< 1371773393 904475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.es
< 1371773396 319518 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.)
< 1371773405 216850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which ls)
< 1371773410 308891 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^752129 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi
< 1371773413 255925 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still the silliest hack
< 1371773421 862871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"liating it"???
< 1371773429 213153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come it doesn't say liating when you do it
< 1371773434 136150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mosh failing me
< 1371773444 160626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.fi
< 1371773445 236908 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371773445 772367 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome.fi? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371773446 308598 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 |
< 1371773446 513584 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                /`\
< 1371773456 286571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks myndzi
< 1371773456 824190 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good wai
< 1371773457 932426 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, myndzi. Thyndzi.
< 1371773463 633283 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
< 1371773465 775639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which ls)
< 1371773467 384645 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ if /bin/ls -id "$@" 2>/dev/null | grep -q ^752129 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi
< 1371773468 455991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: we actually have a welcome in Spanish?
< 1371773474 459092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hi
< 1371773474 664402 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371773480 239568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ¡ | iconv -f iso8859-1 | iconv -f iso8859-1 | iconv -f iso8859-1 | iconv -f iso8859-1 | iconv -f iso8859-1 | iconv -f iso8859-1
< 1371773481 366338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is mosh bugged or did HackEgo get a cosmic bit flip
< 1371773482 438365 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡
< 1371773494 920871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah i added it a while back
< 1371773496 834924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's an actually /useful/ welcome variant, so…
< 1371773504 222657 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it was "listing" both times according to the logs
< 1371773511 764970 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i not pikin inglis
< 1371773513 110093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's showing as "if/bin/ls" here
< 1371773517 707981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it isn't mosh's fault
< 1371773521 34614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know who else to blame
< 1371773521 570923 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :espain
< 1371773532 442073 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adios
< 1371773535 962919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adios angeli
< 1371773553 816427 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ablas español tu
< 1371773562 176651 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc
< 1371773573 255208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :un poquito
< 1371773584 564204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :como esta
< 1371773605 978053 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y por que todos todos hablan ingles
< 1371773610 272603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you think angeli is trying to contribute usefully to the channel, but failing due to the language barrier?
< 1371773621 118631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow in one (1) week (seven (7) days) kmc will fly to california
< 1371773622 457681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just not doing anything useful?
< 1371773630 271292 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :que dicen
< 1371773670 968515 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :que hlablan
< 1371773702 39778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the them
< 1371773704 183995 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information on the THEM has been removed for national security reasons.
< 1371773720 984047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? usa
< 1371773723 168010 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :See America.
< 1371773726 991899 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? america
< 1371773728 604797 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :This wisdom entry had to be removed due to a DMCA takedown notice.
< 1371773737 788593 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo soy de venezuela
< 1371773751 734490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :angeli: porque muchos de nosotros vivimos en estados unidos, y los otros hablan idiomas impopulares, como la finlandesa, y hablan ingles tambien
< 1371773767 736868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you asking whether they're from hexham
< 1371773772 360638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371773779 664336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disapprove
< 1371773781 336446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: come on you can read that
< 1371773782 713667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I can tell kmc's comments are more useful than angeli's even despite them both being in Spanish
< 1371773790 506569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to know any spanish to be able to read that
< 1371773799 707243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott vive en Hexham, UK
< 1371773815 426033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read the finlandesa part
< 1371773817 344415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think hexham UK is quite unlikely in angeli's case
< 1371773818 683764 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo yes hablo spanish
< 1371773822 438138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although hexham, spain is always possible
< 1371773823 239975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Are you calling my language impopulares, though! 
< 1371773832 431823 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
< 1371773839 704064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico
< 1371773850 729940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo no se porque
< 1371773850 997756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fails to see how "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" is useful conversation

< 1371773856 980098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: si
< 1371773865 432933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Tell that to oerjan.
< 1371773866 237027 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :que es esoterico
< 1371773887 966436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico
< 1371773888 171612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lenguajes de programación que se hacen para ser extraño más que útil
< 1371773891 559444 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1371773910 684440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacemos extraños lenguajes de programación para la diversión
< 1371773923 499229 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tu edad kcm
< 1371773949 459374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :el más conocido es http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck pero no es muy interesante en comparación con algunos otros
< 1371773970 581723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :angeli: tengo 25 años
< 1371773976 316437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw google translate suggests you referred to hexham as a "city"
< 1371773979 840817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: si
< 1371773983 341294 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no12
< 1371773985 752382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: which is a wonderfully overoptimistic word for it
< 1371774000 489210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like calling two huts and a campfire a town
< 1371774006 79534 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo 12 
< 1371774069 733366 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chaito
< 1371774087 238412 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a todos
< 1371774087 443522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo vivo en Boston, Massachusetts pero voy a trasladar a California la próxima semana
< 1371774101 788850 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo vivo en venezuela
< 1371774108 471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hexham has elliott's hut, Taneb's hut, and the campfire you use together (strictly scheduled in order to avoid accidentally meeting), right? 
< 1371774115 340308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :angeli: ¿te gusta Venezuela?
< 1371774116 623434 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eso en que pais queda
< 1371774132 212055 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :logico me encanta
< 1371774143 890364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :que tipo de logico
< 1371774151 887833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's OK for elliott to accidentally meet Taneb, so long as they aren't in Northumberland at the time
< 1371774160 352860 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :si  me gusta es  muy linda
< 1371774170 419165 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde queda boston
< 1371774232 753078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nordeste de EE.UU.
< 1371774234 80922 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :en que pais
< 1371774234 286224 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :responde
< 1371774234 286432 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaa
< 1371774258 373508 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa ya 
< 1371774267 609744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 horas de nueva york
< 1371774268 680454 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :en estados unidos
< 1371774270 863838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :si
< 1371774275 248501 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmm
< 1371774288 484090 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y como es aya
< 1371774305 659068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bueno
< 1371774326 51909 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okey
< 1371774340 546135 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371774355 528240 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y porque todos hablan ingles
< 1371774366 582615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :porque no
< 1371774402 333126 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nose 
< 1371774429 791059 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apenas se decir hola en ingles
< 1371774468 321025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ingles es dificil
< 1371774479 187926 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y ticherk
< 1371774491 538252 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :para mi si
< 1371774535 894092 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y a ti
< 1371774552 452908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you can do arbitrary computations with only iconv invocations
< 1371774574 963418 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya te dije que no se hablar ingles
< 1371774683 356397 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sew
< 1371774698 943918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow, that's actually really close to something I've been doing in the last couple of days
< 1371774707 382353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been writing a UTF-8/CP437 polyglot
< 1371774713 885755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1371774741 374122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that uses backspaces, VT100 cursor motion commands, and exploiting the fact that things like "C2 A0" are two characters wide in CP437 but only one in UTF8
< 1371774744 320171 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :que dijistes
< 1371774754 840126 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc
< 1371774800 576967 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chao
< 1371774802 817343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chao
< 1371774811 977215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :adios etc.
< 1371774814 656847 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao
< 1371774815 459846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :!list
< 1371774841 701991 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cao
< 1371774846 297303 :angeli!~canaima@186.89.91.164 PART :#esoteric
< 1371774862 761960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did kmc make a friend
< 1371774864 481311 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know you knew spanish.
< 1371774869 880932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :un poquito
< 1371774876 312055 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than me!
< 1371774877 920212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know enough to catch some of the mistakes google translate makes
< 1371774883 544855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about it
< 1371774887 636142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that google translate + corrections
< 1371774888 170985 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the future measure of language comprehension
< 1371774888 716319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know small amounts of lots of languages
< 1371774893 879343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to watching so much foreign-language TC
< 1371774895 337433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*TV
< 1371774901 3806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took 4 years of spanish in high school but have forgotten most of it
< 1371774907 548835 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in the future we will all get google glass to translate our sentences and then correct them
< 1371774908 621832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly most of the vocabulary
< 1371774908 888907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foreign-language Turing-complete.
< 1371774910 497422 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I watch a lot of anime, so, like, I'm pretty fluent in Japanese"
< 1371774911 299895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then speak them
< 1371774915 124253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE BABEL FISH OF THE FUTURE
< 1371774995 807659 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sugoi bike-chan!
< 1371775005 683874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you've never tried watching YouTube with speech recognition captions turned on, and automatic translation on the captions
< 1371775007 333059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should
< 1371775007 604997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :desu kawaii ^__^
< 1371775025 746909 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boku wa bike-chan desu. nande, desu ka?
< 1371775041 48164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :send pocky
< 1371775050 426148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :watashi wa fiora-chan desu!  kawaii desu ne~
< 1371775064 941034 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can say "no, i mean the WEIRD porn" in over six japonic languages
< 1371775067 623802 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike I think we are drowning in irony
< 1371775073 20109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora-sama hth
< 1371775075 698900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best channel
< 1371775077 38566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I think dave is going to come and tell us to stop
< 1371775077 307351 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are there six japonic languages)
< 1371775081 323058 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't think there are)
< 1371775092 240955 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf-senpai
< 1371775098 857061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371775099 927055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf for emperor
< 1371775106 938861 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i thought you meant illflower was dave for a second
< 1371775110 687171 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  i can say "no, i mean the WEIRD porn" in over six japonic languages
< 1371775114 701916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1057)  i can say "no, i mean the WEIRD porn" in over six japonic languages
< 1371775119 632529 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my legacy
< 1371775151 635629 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish shachaf-senpai would notice me
< 1371775159 436735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Fiora
< 1371775193 227918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf-先輩
< 1371775198 353879 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japan Man like Santa Claus except one difference: he stop at nothing to kill you.
< 1371775237 8234 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc0rhqezMH1qj5pqvo1_500.png   bike has a GED in anime fyi
< 1371775243 707047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to ~upgrade my computer~
< 1371775275 101090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: help
< 1371775287 455001 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :w-with what >_<
< 1371775295 795905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you gotten me into
< 1371775296 870053 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you mean buy a new one
< 1371775298 744064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was already broken when we arrived" is one of the (less than dozen) phrases in Russian they (anecdotally) teach to people on the train when the CS student organization has their traditional St. Petersburg trip.
< 1371775306 936768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no i mean the Operation's System
< 1371775315 901199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha
< 1371775319 189219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that real
< 1371775325 727184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, I actually don't know how to say that in Hungarian
< 1371775325 994829 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1371775329 516547 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a stupid queston
< 1371775333 272668 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what i was thinking of
< 1371775353 256940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it already said , you don't have to repeat yourself
< 1371775356 472313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bUr n!!!! !)
< 1371775363 590595 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um.  I don't know
< 1371775364 668698 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:
< 1371775369 784781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: please no random insults for no good reason
< 1371775376 100007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is #esoteric, not league of legends
< 1371775376 367688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523++
< 1371775379 46829 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's okay it's for bike
< 1371775387 841217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not OK for Bike.
< 1371775398 520017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :loool
< 1371775429 793911 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's ok elliott's a damned shit anyway
< 1371775434 117015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo +q elliott
< 1371775455 3215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :break it up, you two (possibly three)
< 1371775457 180468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :∼be nice∼
< 1371775476 800752 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah elliott, break it up, don't be so damn mean
< 1371775480 823279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this upgrade will be a welcome respite from how oblivious ais523 is
< 1371775499 524847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'll happily admit I'm oblivious
< 1371775538 443891 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf-先輩?
< 1371775554 598289 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Fiora後輩 then.
< 1371775574 917011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION turned $165 worth of coins into Amazon credit today

< 1371775589 143891 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371775602 733233 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hey i just realized this "gate equivalent" stuff is probably what i'll be doing in class. maybe i can implement SIMON :P
< 1371775641 222198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah moving involves doing so many things
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< 1371775857 8618 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yay
< 1371775878 308879 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds awesome
< 1371775887 11601 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes I am a kouhai apparently
< 1371775909 729688 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be fun assuming i would have any idea what i was doing
< 1371775925 727632 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez you can like teach me stuff right
< 1371776020 640886 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you take circuit desin in school?
< 1371776025 805913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ._.
< 1371776033 440354 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a vague idea of like, how to make an adder
< 1371776039 139895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an electronic engineering degree
< 1371776039 408195 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah so do i
< 1371776043 228290 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we played a tiny bit with one of those things where you drag around wires and NAND gates at some point
< 1371776043 496550 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, could someone do a DNS lookup on www.google.com?
< 1371776045 908082 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from. How Stuff Works.
< 1371776066 573391 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna test something. (my DNS is inexplicably not working)
< 1371776066 778445 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah i did that in architecture class. i think this class is rather different from that one, thouh..
< 1371776068 218313 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh!  and there was like a thing where I got to lay out a small adder with wires and metal layers and stuff
< 1371776068 758064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 173.194.66.105 and five other possibilities
< 1371776071 736235 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with um... "Electric"
< 1371776078 788441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all in 173.194.66.0/24
< 1371776084 986333 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i too enjoy Electric
< 1371776097 288045 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it had design rules and stuff
< 1371776099 981037 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait do you mean physically or
< 1371776107 804947 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nononono like digitally
< 1371776108 340947 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I can ping that.
< 1371776111 832270 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok.
< 1371776121 303511 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparentlythe stuff we did got used in a senior project where they did actually fabricate a chip?
< 1371776124 74054 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be pretty metal if they let us make a toy CMOS or whatever thouh i doubt it
< 1371776126 255540 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy *shit* the packet loss.
< 1371776130 544194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I normally use nethack4.org to bounce pings off to see if I'm online
< 1371776130 749367 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically they were like, pawning work onto frosh
< 1371776132 460497 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we were the frosh
< 1371776134 868184 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip pikhq
< 1371776135 403258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, that's because I own it
< 1371776135 946197 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist did someone do the slist thing yet I don't know
< 1371776137 554738 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: heh
< 1371776137 759579 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist did someone do the slist thing yet I don't know: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1371776163 702684 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The thing is, I can't do DNS lookups right now.
< 1371776179 914920 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way i think this class will be more excititing than my other ones which are mostly Introduction to Broad Field
< 1371776186 421655 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no wonder.
< 1371776189 364270 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :60% packet loss.
< 1371776197 444583 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and chemistry, which is hope you like punch card memorization, in my experience
< 1371776199 891920 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running a friggin' TCP stress test.
< 1371776212 37621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: chemistry is interesting when you get to the reason behind things
< 1371776214 754961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: intentionally?
< 1371776221 884 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No.
< 1371776225 293923 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, can't wait for the packets to get back from OUTER FRICKEN SPACE?
< 1371776230 918629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, understanding why the periodic table is the shape it is
< 1371776237 409938 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Thank god I'm no longer doing that.
< 1371776238 508268 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: Fully aware you might not be in that situation anymore)
< 1371776249 184072 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :God that sucked.
< 1371776257 27977 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though less so than dialup.
< 1371776264 530397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, satellite internet
< 1371776270 230637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were exaggerating
< 1371776271 570624 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how the comedian that did that thinks that connecting by bouncing off sattelites in space is awesome, yet that's the worst way to get an Internet connection
< 1371776280 449710 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah but i did that in high school already soooo not high hopes exactly.
< 1371776286 162959 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, pikhq used sattelite internet for some amount of time
< 1371776291 916468 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow really
< 1371776300 294106 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought pikhq lived in like
< 1371776302 186073 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :civilization?
< 1371776309 834085 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I did not at the time.
< 1371776314 191498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he lives in the US
< 1371776314 497303 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh
< 1371776318 250856 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have a pet bear
< 1371776319 93269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has famously bad internet
< 1371776322 337004 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did a bear have a pet you
< 1371776379 463494 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was a couple miles away from DSL...
< 1371776391 657198 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371776396 458960 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll get to do like electrochemistry or something
< 1371776406 700293 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new and exciting ways to kill myself violently (that's what chemistry is for, right)
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< 1371776521 704016 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, I'm trying to diagnose an apparently wonky cable connection.
< 1371776556 316449 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sympathize :/
< 1371776568 263192 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1371776609 296419 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :God *dammit* the bastards don't let us change the settings on the modem. :P
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< 1371777690 861144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o well, looks like my system is too fucked to upgrade
< 1371777695 681837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i should reformat at some point
< 1371777718 617227 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371777718 884661 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    |
< 1371777719 89641 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  o/`¯º
< 1371777723 171715 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1371777728 574087 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't come up with something good for the feet
< 1371777743 749665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like that it adds to hackego's smiley
< 1371777757 60543 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also
< 1371777759 513388 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid mirc
< 1371777769 289404 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? does it really work
< 1371777770 976243 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it really work? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371777771 243537 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          |
< 1371777771 512161 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                        º¯`\o
< 1371777775 33557 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic
< 1371777798 187510 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\(([chars])_(?!\2)[chars]\)/ matches (._o)
< 1371777798 392904 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                       |
< 1371777798 393088 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                     º¯`\o
< 1371777801 749018 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not with any unicodes
< 1371777805 277580 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i wonder what happened there
< 1371777819 398291 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\(([chars])_(?!\2)[chars]\)/ matches \(._o)/
< 1371777819 704636 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                        |
< 1371777819 909797 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                      o/`¯º
< 1371777827 471909 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm back to troubleshooting
< 1371777839 829222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit, it's half 2 already
< 1371777872 54463 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1371777878 706367 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :counting length of unicode characters derp
< 1371777944 357354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i blame all this on nobody buying me a new computer, imo
< 1371778066 376412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially Bike. as previously established, he's terrible.
< 1371778165 605267 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't acquire your own?
< 1371778190 777008 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "acquire" she means "steal"
< 1371778194 878985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the principle of the thing!
< 1371778201 849089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Bike doesn't get me a new computer, how can I know he truly loves me.
< 1371778313 291487 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get your own computer
< 1371778322 252007 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't forgiven you for the vax fiasco
< 1371778357 601073 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly mean buy <.<  but also like
< 1371778359 746306 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"convince parents to buy"
< 1371778378 693274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you think of it Bike is kind of like parents.
< 1371778389 77289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm trying to convince Bike to buy me a computer right now!
< 1371778426 907691 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a Raspberri Pi?
< 1371778442 447078 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly is a computer
< 1371778481 526184 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo's got a point
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< 1371778549 763458 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have my raspberry pi
< 1371778572 643739 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will be my vengeance
< 1371778586 120581 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike doesn't have as much money as parents though
< 1371778596 429067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know!
< 1371778599 140756 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we know that
< 1371778602 959731 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about, neuroscientists make mad bank.
< 1371778611 261634 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh
< 1371778616 929171 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fuck with people's brains etc.
< 1371778631 474365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in they literally make everyone who works at the bank mad
< 1371778634 157711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with neuroscience
< 1371778651 421069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw when did Bike turn from a biologist into a neuroscientist
< 1371778653 908209 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371778656 647734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like pokemon
< 1371778661 772149 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the same thing elliott
< 1371778663 149127 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371778663 417812 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both awful
< 1371778698 844841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they actually made a Pokémon spinoff where the humans evolved
< 1371778702 324301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is ridiculous, also awesome
< 1371778726 640729 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... tell us more, ais
< 1371778750 385095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I bet I could convince ais523 that it's morally correct to buy me a computer
< 1371778752 296364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not sure there's much more to say, really
< 1371778752 501511 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i want to hear about this.
< 1371778758 733151 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot more to say.
< 1371778768 859027 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is so much more to say
< 1371778781 556856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the plot has warriors forming emotional links with Pokémon; if it gets strong enough and it's the right Pokémon
< 1371778791 625455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it plays this animation with them fading back and forth, as usual
< 1371778796 252008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mostly they end up in new clothes
< 1371778798 394739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with new abilities
< 1371778802 414216 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shittest
< 1371778804 365679 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evolution
< 1371778805 168951 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever
< 1371778817 266089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, higher stats, too
< 1371778832 954359 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just the clothes evolving
< 1371778841 858617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well clothes have all the real power in an RPG
< 1371778848 365233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans exist only for the purpose of wearing them
< 1371778854 20055 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371778854 822253 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371778859 475540 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean pokemon ranger?
< 1371778860 9398 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, underwear doesn't
< 1371778868 316027 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's integral to the human condition
< 1371778881 3584 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nobody bring up those mods
< 1371778883 452156 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1371778884 523322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Pokémon Conquest
< 1371778896 907655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ranger doesn't have any human evolution, or even any Pokémon evolution
< 1371778899 355768 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH, pokemon conquest
< 1371778905 980732 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that had humans evolve?  I don't remmber that
< 1371778921 955600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know: humans evolve irl too
< 1371778922 756753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it happens once guaranteed in the main storyline (after the first attempt to battle illusio/terrera)
< 1371778926 505120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the others are all optional
< 1371778935 805043 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, considering how shit it sounds i'm not surprised
< 1371778937 740238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and normally happen when you reach a certain percentage with your perfect link
< 1371778944 4283 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh
< 1371778954 330262 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... shit...?  gosh pokemon conquest was great
< 1371778955 403340 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it takes, like, forever, though.
< 1371778989 717281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only works for storyline characters, and normally they have generic abilities beforehand, and customized abilities afterwards which are really powerful
< 1371778992 396946 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw how did the "bike is a biologist" thing even start because i'm pretty sure i never described myself that way
< 1371779012 660458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. oichi goes from "sweet song" (restore 50 hp to each unit), to "soft light" (restore 100 hp + status to each unit)
< 1371779028 500438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet song is broken enough as it is (although many units get it), so the upgrade is quite mindboggling
< 1371779031 493630 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, i mean the evolution part
< 1371779032 365301 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think you did
< 1371779040 626570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the evolved ability has nothing to do with the original ability though
< 1371779040 831659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs bike.*biolog
< 1371779050 572819 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd expect to get an extra arm or elbow-caps or something with a name like that
< 1371779051 754504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, skill, not ability, using the correct word is important! for some reason I don't really understand
< 1371779064 156613 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more just like a class upgrade type thing
< 1371779069 248349 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1371779071 388593 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12411
< 1371779075 562495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows, it's Pokémon
< 1371779078 8135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok so, tell me how i could convince you that buying me a new computer is morally required
< 1371779086 83282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it frequently misuses the word "evolution" really badly
< 1371779091 813115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that might be immoral, though
< 1371779092 347912 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pokemon conquest is kind of more like a pokemon-themed nobunaga's-ambition-type thing though
< 1371779106 436752 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, i could rough him up with a pipe or something next time i'm in the midlands?
< 1371779109 788506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it literally is nobunaga's ambition with a Pokémon theme and mechanics
< 1371779118 508151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-04-04.txt:00:31:52:  Bike is a biologist???????????????????????????????????
< 1371779121 545183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-04-04.txt:00:32:02:  a wannabe biologist
< 1371779124 223421 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks shachaf
< 1371779126 634904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called "Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition" (appropriately translated) in Japan
< 1371779127 171666 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it called pokemon x nobunaga's ambition in japan?
< 1371779131 456645 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  +
< 1371779133 396728 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not the same, imo.
< 1371779135 809555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: surely not divulging information about your morals isn't very lawful good
< 1371779140 401246 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you have to hide
< 1371779148 752429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but the information might be used for evil
< 1371779153 37416 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heyyyyy i mentioned aczel there
< 1371779174 76476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, I'll only use it to convince you to buy me a new computer for moral reasons
< 1371779174 344285 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but ais is lawful weird, not lawful good
< 1371779180 272804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore it will only result in you taking moral actions
< 1371779187 774506 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i talk about biology a lot rad
< 1371779192 417935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can see, I'm being very transparent about the whole thing
< 1371779213 210444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the non-Japan version, it's not advertised as being in the Nobunaga's Ambition series because nobody had heard of it
< 1371779217 563662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they do have loads of references
< 1371779228 90829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like stealing /all/ the non-Pokémon characters (except Hero/Heroine) from it
< 1371779239 802788 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? conspirabiology
< 1371779240 606048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and giving Nobunaga a (post-evolution) skill called Ambition
< 1371779241 987067 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspirabiology is where moth colourings form a dot matrix display to send you subliminal messages.
< 1371779248 228027 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainf**k
< 1371779249 568562 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no such thing as brainf**k. You may be thinking of brainfuck.
< 1371779256 94782 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burma
< 1371779257 703486 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask Bike
< 1371779262 27228 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1371779295 359621 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this log clearly shows you saying i'm "like, a biologist" before i say i'm anything.
< 1371779301 517555 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, fuck you.
< 1371779317 832186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Bike actually a biologist?
< 1371779326 728566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also IIRC fucking elliott is illegal
< 1371779335 69298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or used to be, at least
< 1371779336 407702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no
< 1371779337 758724 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the age of consent 16 in northumberland
< 1371779345 31326 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is eminently fuckable by eminent domain
< 1371779347 710840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been fuckable for like almost a year!
< 1371779355 62399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :albeit in only one sense of the word
< 1371779361 796378 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what i actually am is, an undergrad.
< 1371779365 812868 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse than slime imo
< 1371779372 68816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this conversation took a weird turn
< 1371779375 53291 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike/elliott?
< 1371779378 624518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, isn't "eminent domain" the US name for what's called "compulsory purchase" in the UK?
< 1371779384 247915 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371779386 658491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, I forgot that Fiora was a shipper
< 1371779390 712137 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1371779394 199775 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she'll make you remember
< 1371779395 537920 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is    is that bad
< 1371779395 805439 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!
< 1371779401 703791 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: no, I just envy you for it
< 1371779407 104332 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :envy...?
< 1371779419 191797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 450
< 1371779420 801625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :450)  oerjan: I'm not imaginative enough to write truly great slash fiction
< 1371779442 829125 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  I'm not either
< 1371779458 919573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right :(
< 1371779478 863922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i think you disappointed ais523
< 1371779496 703557 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know how you could make up for it? write elliott/kmc that makes the stars cry in joy
< 1371779497 812418 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can write fic but I'm probably really out of practice
< 1371779508 672975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the problem with slash is it's porn and I absolutely can't write porn
< 1371779513 224630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some NetHack fanfiction once
< 1371779524 824420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be difficult because elliott and i have never seen each other and Fiora has never seen either of us?
< 1371779543 226722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but you and elliott both actually exist
< 1371779557 20550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: love knows no barriers
< 1371779558 129532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's got to be some sort of advantage, most fanfiction is about characters who don't exist
< 1371779576 80816 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: /tasteful/ slash
< 1371779579 896562 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "erotic" not "porn"
< 1371779580 701685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh.
< 1371779585 253667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh
< 1371779586 925322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all else fails, you can use the standard plots involving wormholes that are capable of connecting multiple continuities
< 1371779600 405270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :worm-gloryhole
< 1371779602 821982 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: okay, I can't write erotic fiction
< 1371779625 748837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the US and Hexham are different continuities, right?)
< 1371779722 237098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're welcome (for what??)
< 1371779724 114653 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, that's why this channel is full of plot holes
< 1371779746 216813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want to write a continuity-based esolang
< 1371779762 941134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it takes the form of a story, and has some sort of algorithmic method for automatically resolving continuity errors
< 1371779779 212892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to form a loop, you'd have to write it such that resolving a contradiction in one part of it caused a contradiction in another
< 1371779844 641100 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i know so many people in california
< 1371779857 160390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because california is great
< 1371779863 398624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should go and visit (for reasons other than enabling elliott/kmc slash)
< 1371779865 845114 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think Canada is canon
< 1371779867 183296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because california is huge
< 1371779884 380647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is is the most populous state in the US
< 1371779887 949356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i view california as like the size of ireland
< 1371779893 533476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really long and thin
< 1371779898 358060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of ireland's more balanced shape
< 1371779907 597560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't tell me how much bigger california is than ireland
< 1371779924 931811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… including california in the story would be cheating
< 1371779926 539075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=area+of+california+%2F+area+of+united+kingdom
< 1371779927 648834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 423970 / 84421
< 1371779928 732096 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  5.022091659658142
< 1371779929 304554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's internally inconsistent
< 1371779936 843518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's not ireland, i know)
< 1371779947 970040 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo remember when i said please don't tell me how much bigger california is than ireland
< 1371779950 920412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 423970 / 229848
< 1371779951 993175 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  1.8445668441752812
< 1371779955 516636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shachaf says i'm mean!!
< 1371779970 337112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I remember when Stephen Wolfram was demonstrating Wolfram Alpha in a seminar
< 1371779976 261940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and asked it for the tides in Norwich
< 1371779998 511125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm... waiting for the punchline
< 1371779999 580689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If California were a country, as of 2012 it would have the 9th largest economy in the world
< 1371780006 437375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't it use to be 7th
< 1371780017 851869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woow california u'r slipping"
< 1371780026 1036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well he didn't even notice that it picked an arbitrary nearby-ish coastal town to report on
< 1371780029 233888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Norwich is landlocked
< 1371780033 252614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371780041 858309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps i know nothing about UK geology
< 1371780061 365057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know rather too much about the geography of East Anglia
< 1371780072 209026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the county I spend the most time in, other than the West Midlands
< 1371780077 609497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :east anglia sounds like a body part
< 1371780082 436779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not even for the same reason each time
< 1371780082 642018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like maybe it's in your throat
< 1371780087 416288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your east anglia
< 1371780096 433632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think too many body parts have cardinal directions in their names
< 1371780111 74391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think east anglia is mostly famous for being flat
< 1371780116 737214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well that's what's interesting about the east anglia
< 1371780117 542628 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371780121 712881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's essentially your body's compass
< 1371780126 4092 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it maintains itself to always point east
< 1371780126 813352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can stand on top of a 2m high wall
< 1371780139 336790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this is why, if your lose your throat, you're not very good at directions any more
< 1371780146 780570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be on the highest point for miles around, with your view limited only by the curvature of the Earth (rather than the more common being limited by high ground)
< 1371780147 224972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense
< 1371780162 71609 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have watercourses cut which are just a couple of metres lower than the land
< 1371780182 538340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some of the most repetitive areas to drive through in the UK :)
< 1371780188 433321 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey have you seen the new super mega todaY? "Chin"
< 1371780202 303442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that I can drive)
< 1371780215 273604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it also has the A11, which is great
< 1371780215 808215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: nope
< 1371780218 256545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist
< 1371780219 602836 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
< 1371780231 423003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: thanks
< 1371780235 976974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because it's used to test out new cats eyes replacements, for allowing drivers to see road markings in the dark
< 1371780245 960898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a stretch that has like 8 or 9 different new experimental ones
< 1371780254 580605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's quite fun to drive at night
< 1371780282 380032 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently mirc understands utf-8 but pcre doesn't
< 1371780286 129911 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's annoying
< 1371780291 795174 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be on the right track now though
< 1371780309 376735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, its coast is superior to weston-super-mare
< 1371780311 253454 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ \m/ \m/ _o/\o_ ಠ_ಠ
< 1371780311 458783 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |   |   `\o/´69   |  |  ¯|¯⌠
< 1371780311 458940 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ /|     |    /< /|  /`\|
< 1371780311 459031 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          /'¯|_)
< 1371780311 459119 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        (_|
< 1371780323 501271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glorious
< 1371780336 748810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi
< 1371780338 692735 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371780338 960717 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             |
< 1371780339 229323 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º
< 1371780339 764867 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot one
< 1371780346 513182 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ \m/ \m/ _o/\o_ ಠ_ಠ  ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371780346 718242 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |   |   `\o/´69   |  |  ¯|¯⌠ |      |
< 1371780346 718430 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/'\ /'\    |     >\/<   |\|/|    º¯`\o
< 1371780347 315683 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          /'\
< 1371780347 583997 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        (_| |_)
< 1371780349 994834 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful
< 1371780351 334263 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cause of all this trouble :P
< 1371780357 320646 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1371780365 206385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the script that lead to myndzi not being signed up to Agora, right?
< 1371780367 921153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should complete c.c to a 7-eyed multiocular one
< 1371780368 456861 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news: got to clean the script up a little
< 1371780377 347551 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ?
< 1371780389 442767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: do you not remember that?
< 1371780389 976670 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why the fuck would you spend time in east anglia
< 1371780397 545868 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i can't exactly edit the contents of YOUR message :P
< 1371780398 652744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's a different reason each time, often
< 1371780401 789020 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it just there to be the butt of the geographic joke in alan partridge
< 1371780405 537661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: no I mean
< 1371780406 876175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c
< 1371780407 953306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c.c
< 1371780408 792891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c
< 1371780409 596472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequently it's because it's on the way to cambridge
< 1371780419 147135 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, i don't think i've ever been likely to participate in nomic
< 1371780426 707885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's why I've been to East Anglia
< 1371780429 167482 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have no idea why the script would prevent me (?)
< 1371780432 657680 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how... wh
< 1371780433 728725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the trains to cambridge from Birmingham go via East Anglia, for some reason, even though it isn't actually on the way)
< 1371780439 91369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait hm
< 1371780443 723782 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371780444 526738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I was going from London, doesn't make sense
< 1371780445 329386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's a good question
< 1371780502 520930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no obvious reason to build a railway line such that it overshoots its destination and then backtracks
< 1371780537 449719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is Cambridge in east anglia
< 1371780546 712521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite, it's close though
< 1371780546 981252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia thinks so
< 1371780557 516897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, unsurprisingly, in cambridgeshire
< 1371780562 644727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: i second kmc's feature request
< 1371780571 88984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The University of Cambridge, established at the start of the 13th century and situated in the town of the same name, is East Anglia's best-known institution of higher learning, and is among the oldest and most famous universities in the world"
< 1371780606 895846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently cambridgeshire is officially part of east anglia
< 1371780623 474655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with norfolk, suffolk, and essex, whichis what I thought was the official definition
< 1371780624 12403 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1371780627 561814 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1371780633 860417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is the Wikipedia definition of "apparently", not the Reddit definition)
< 1371780725 141754 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember in Couplings the girl saying "apparently" meant she was upset
< 1371780730 809776 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371780736 370093 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371780743 723165 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy
< 1371780754 527223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the reddit defn
< 1371780755 640918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: here, "apparently" normally means "I've read this on Reddit recently"
< 1371780758 299084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy
< 1371780765 188405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371780768 985515 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people read reddit?
< 1371780773 433358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it can also be used for "this is claimed to be true by Wikipedia"
< 1371780779 585071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I read some of the subreddits, some of the time
< 1371780794 49202 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know either of those definitions
< 1371780796 769262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 8 "San Francisco"
< 1371780798 145321 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "cisco"
< 1371780807 465543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well they aren't really standard English
< 1371780810 747297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> splitAt 8 "San Francisco"
< 1371780811 819170 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  ("San Fran","cisco")
< 1371780815 674615 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reader's digets used to call that city Frisco
< 1371780839 939148 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I ain't really English neither so that's fine by me
< 1371780847 443648 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and guys
< 1371780856 871954 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE GOT AN APPARTMENT WITH VIEW ON THE EIFFEL TOWER
< 1371780864 143765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"view of"
< 1371780868 737909 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371780869 349169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "a view o"
< 1371780876 41017 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to say that again
< 1371780876 843406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"a veiw of"
< 1371780885 727485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I actually caught the las typo but let it in because muphry's law)
< 1371780887 372536 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE GOT AN APPARTMENT WITH A VIEW OF THE EIFFEL TOWER
< 1371780895 749324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :/A view from the left/
< 1371780900 607329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my f key is not working properly
< 1371780910 833207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are apartments hard to obtain in Paris?
< 1371780915 659408 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371780923 500905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is where I say something about how the Eiffel Tower is ugly and overrated
< 1371780928 326347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to sound cool
< 1371780932 658396 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I don't own it I'm gonna be renting it
< 1371780954 596158 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well rent half of it anyway, i'll have a room mate
< 1371780957 624736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I have no idea whether the Eiffel Tower is underrated or overrated
< 1371780971 584894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'd say that this conversation is reasonably good evidence that it exists
< 1371780974 687455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, not perfect
< 1371780977 957302 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's the eiffel tower. what more do you need?
< 1371780978 764437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got an apartment in san francisco with a view of some hills
< 1371780983 321071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think Koen_ is reasonably trustworthy in terms of existence of landmarks
< 1371780996 278937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are they anthills
< 1371781003 559403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1371781005 966963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. big ants maybe
< 1371781017 841081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live close enough to the edge of Birmingham that it's reasonable to just walk out of it, into countryside
< 1371781025 181714 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've got a vague memory of visiting it when I was a kid
< 1371781032 313499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we used to drive past fields with cows and sheep in on the way to school
< 1371781038 320906 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mostly I've got a memory of queueing to visit it
< 1371781078 877679 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how expensive is san francisco (i know literally nothing about the world)
< 1371781084 48558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v.
< 1371781094 885915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: more so than hexham
< 1371781099 186078 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how expensive is v. expensive?
< 1371781104 313931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_Brock/SF-Infographic.png
< 1371781117 792583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how expensive is hexham
< 1371781122 76357 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh c.c
< 1371781123 738500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I have come to the conclusion that Subway (the sandwich chain) is one of the better ways to compare the relative expense of places
< 1371781124 542617 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut
< 1371781125 879427 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371781132 672453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's really common, and less prone to cultural differences than McDonalds is
< 1371781139 205941 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are not US dollars right kmc right
< 1371781142 532423 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1371781144 747560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are US dollars
< 1371781146 218054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :per month
< 1371781148 396383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Subway prices vary noticeably even within one city in the UK, unlike McDonalds
< 1371781157 949852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh
< 1371781160 361479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a lot of money
< 1371781170 894474 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the price of a Subway sandwich is probably a better barometer.
< 1371781181 652451 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to varying rather a bit more based on supply chain.
< 1371781187 616751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to rent a 1 bedroom apartment, which is the most expensive way for one person to live, compared to sharing a bigger apt 
< 1371781194 411045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also which one of these is silicon valley
< 1371781197 924009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :none
< 1371781200 980263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1371781203 920733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I've seen a difference of £2.30 just within the uK
< 1371781205 633208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*UK
< 1371781207 777102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is SF proper which is only 7 miles on a side
< 1371781213 441709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silicon Valley is like 30 miles south of there
< 1371781221 747075 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :o c.c
< 1371781222 15233 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c.c
< 1371781222 220415 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c
< 1371781231 702357 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you guys have like the biggest fucking country ever and you pack everything into no space whatsoever
< 1371781232 238092 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ c.c \o/
< 1371781232 505804 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |
< 1371781232 710847 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ c.c  >\
< 1371781236 255195 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dumb are you
< 1371781238 350745 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lols
< 1371781240 757897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes because it's useful to live near other people
< 1371781242 897434 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one makes no sense
< 1371781247 869476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think by useful you mean horrible
< 1371781248 135074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cities are expensive because people want to live there
< 1371781250 620006 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i f igured it'd be easy to add ;)
< 1371781257 914646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: even despite the packing, it's apparently impossible to live without driving in the US, in most cases
< 1371781264 434050 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, we're not as crammed as you think.
< 1371781270 722077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SF has a serious housing shortage though
< 1371781275 46211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas in the UK, it's possible to get from Birmingham to Hexham entirely along cycle paths
< 1371781276 121086 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371781276 922931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to inept planning, zoning, NIMBYs, etc
< 1371781281 548958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that you'd want to, but the possibility exists)
< 1371781286 642502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm told that in the UK, NIMBYs are known as CAVE people
< 1371781288 250033 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd want to
< 1371781292 64755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Citizens Against Virtually Everything
< 1371781298 797428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: NIMBY is pretty common in the UK too
< 1371781306 22654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1371781309 71518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's more specific
< 1371781319 59786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i move to sf
< 1371781325 323326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can afford it, yes
< 1371781326 169161 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's only, uh, 200 miles.
< 1371781337 266529 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 miles
< 1371781338 69953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll get a job first
< 1371781345 342050 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371781345 547172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: of course pay scales up to match rents, somewhat
< 1371781348 560436 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost three days if you're riding a bike
< 1371781348 828052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if you're a software engineer
< 1371781350 473997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't move unless you have a reason to move
< 1371781370 446498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I think zzo38 would explain it better than me
< 1371781372 952770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :albeit less directly
< 1371781379 272554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually SF will have only software engineers and homeless schizophrenic people who sleep at the BART station
< 1371781387 662083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i live in a small windowless room in a city that used to have the most murders per capita in the country
< 1371781391 181606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least this is one of the dystopian scenarios that people are worrying a lot about
< 1371781397 77830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: isn't that illegal?
< 1371781403 658189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it?
< 1371781408 517227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the UK housing regulations is that all rooms used for sleeping must have a window
< 1371781413 913374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1371781417 392763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems like a sensible rule for elsewhere too
< 1371781419 800277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe it is
< 1371781421 138032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's common in the US too
< 1371781432 424269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means that large dormitories tend to have shapes designed to maximise surface area
< 1371781437 338136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend lived in a windowless room in NYC and there was a sticker on the door like "DON'T LIST THIS ROOM ON CRAIGSLIST WITHOUT ASKING US FIRST"
< 1371781447 825382 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: That's just a bit over the distance from Colorado Springs to the CO-KS boarder.
< 1371781450 617971 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, border.
< 1371781458 619388 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so france isn't the only country that has rules about the size and shape of a bed?
< 1371781468 187408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: https://www.google.com/search?q=simmons+hall&tbm=isch
< 1371781474 882797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hmm, so the rule exists in the US, just people break it and think they'd be unlikely to be caught?
< 1371781482 185674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some places they do
< 1371781482 989170 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you're not cool now I have to google CO-KS
< 1371781489 988840 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Colorado-Kansas.
< 1371781495 657907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :housing in NYC is insane enough that people will put up with a lot of sketchy
< 1371781512 915047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the windowless part is p. bad..............i should move
< 1371781517 200706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, I guess the difference in the UK is that people think they'd be more likely to be caught
< 1371781523 405685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they do it in London?
< 1371781524 478786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, they probably would, mostly because of council tax
< 1371781535 806342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when there's a tax tied to what sort of accommodation you live in
< 1371781540 971390 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1371781549 270057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :government authorities become better at figuring out whether accommodation is legal
< 1371781560 66355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index#Manipulation
< 1371781567 389376 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hmmmm okay
< 1371781578 868015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Guillermo Moreno, Secretary of Commerce in the Kirchner government, reportedly forced McDonald's to sell the Big Mac at an artificially low price to manipulate the country's performance on the Big Mac index"
< 1371781587 787418 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup that looks like 2~3 days
< 1371781600 815633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: somehow I'm not surprised
< 1371781604 870619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm not sure I could bike 200 miles in 3 days
< 1371781607 662286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm kind of a wimp
< 1371781621 443325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how "bike" just looks like a name to me now
< 1371781634 46872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I did 200 in 4 days and didn't feel dead, so probably I could
< 1371781638 699372 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I biked 250 km in two days a couple years ago
< 1371781653 266066 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can convert that to your weird units
< 1371781656 829442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't ride a bicycle "help"
< 1371781664 179609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :155 mi
< 1371781667 657971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which units
< 1371781669 69943 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/units
< 1371781702 491866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`units 250km mi
< 1371781704 97289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it has frink!
< 1371781704 302501 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​	Definition: 4.02336e+08 m^2
< 1371781707 414270 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh right for some reason I was assuming miles/km was the same as dollar/euro
< 1371781707 949870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use it instead of units
< 1371781709 824442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know frink
< 1371781715 518316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 250 km -> miles
< 1371781717 162089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  ohhhhh right for some reason I was assuming miles/km was the same as dollar/euro
< 1371781731 562653 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1953125/12573 (approx. 155.3427980593335)
< 1371781731 825804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :…
< 1371781733 510435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1058)  ohhhhh right for some reason I was assuming miles/km was the same as dollar/euro
< 1371781757 545743 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how 250km mi was interpreted as a surface
< 1371781770 22212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ohhhhh right for some reason I was assuming miles/km was the same as dollar/euro ← it's pretty close to pound/dollar, sometimes
< 1371781786 589023 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :frink is very cool
< 1371781814 66447 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 250 km*mi -> square inches
< 1371781820 537068 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :79200000000000/127 (approx. 6.236220472440945e11)
< 1371781830 130144 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: The mile's not a weird unit! Why, it's quite simply 1760 yards!
< 1371781837 64305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 100 kB
< 1371781837 330497 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A yard of course being 3 feet.
< 1371781845 161607 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "kB". \ 100 kB (undefined symbol)
< 1371781847 303280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: once upon a time USD/INS was ~ gallon/litre
< 1371781852 123626 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long is your feet
< 1371781854 324692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted it to interpret it as kilobels
< 1371781859 244460 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an international yard being 0.9144m.
< 1371781867 547110 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how loog is your foot* and don't make me ask how long your inch is
< 1371781875 234299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so you could compare some prices pretty directly
< 1371781885 698209 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is inch a synonym for thumb?
< 1371781888 194062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink ??moon
< 1371781895 583125 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[moonmass = 7.3483e+22 kg (mass),  \ moondist = 3.84400000e+8 m (length),  \ moonlum = 2500 m^-2 cd (illuminance),  \ moongravity = 1.62 m s^-2 (acceleration),  \ moonradius = 1738000 m (length)]
< 1371781898 571493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: in the UK, 1 foot = 12 inches = 12 * 2.54 millimetres
< 1371781904 254960 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a survey yard being 3937/3600 m.
< 1371781915 272541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 100*1000*10 decibels
< 1371781917 681127 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: US and UK "foot" are identical.
< 1371781920 484919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK and US have the same inch/foot
< 1371781922 618690 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "decibels". \ 1000000 decibels (undefined symbol)
< 1371781925 831488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 100*1000*10 decibel
< 1371781928 550274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the same fluid ounce :/
< 1371781933 231261 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "decibel". \ 1000000 decibel (undefined symbol)
< 1371781934 669724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371781938 155080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can define units
< 1371781944 591683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MetricImperialUSCustomaryUnits.jpg
< 1371781947 24938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but bels work on a log scale
< 1371781957 594200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://futureboy.us/frinkdata/units.txt
< 1371781959 734854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why the idea of a kilobel or megabel is so earthshattering
< 1371781961 74506 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Koen_: in the UK, 1 foot = 12 inches = 12 * 2.54 millimetres
< 1371781964 662060 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371781965 731927 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the US also has survey feet.
< 1371781972 231737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody told me that the strength of british beer is scaled to the fact that a UK pint, a US pint, and a continental whatever are different sizes
< 1371781997 647999 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like 3 centimetres ais523
< 1371782006 723006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, 2.54 centimetres
< 1371782009 458365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :25.4 millimetres
< 1371782027 849801 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 survey foot = 12 survey inches = 12 * 100/3937m.
< 1371782050 826452 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grand.
< 1371782063 21974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively you could make one of the continuity-piercing wormholes 10 times bigger?
< 1371782077 604147 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 30 centimetres? SERIOUSLY
< 1371782084 340675 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I had big feet
< 1371782084 608242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yeah, about 30 centimetres
< 1371782094 583350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whose feet they are
< 1371782098 66750 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used for surveying purposes because the US length units were defined accordingly before settling on a single length unit set with the UK.
< 1371782103 194356 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stores here don't even make shoes for 30-centimetres feet
< 1371782141 354954 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My feet are larger than a foot?
< 1371782142 730252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: huh, I assumed the US used the same units as the UK because they were the same pre-independence
< 1371782144 413811 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not?
< 1371782170 972651 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The US established its own definitions of them, which were mostly similar but not identical.
< 1371782173 554290 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, france booted you out of america for a reason :-)
< 1371782192 978298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well I wasn't in America at the time
< 1371782205 692526 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence why the pre-international US and UK feet were merely *almost* identical.
< 1371782237 189820 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys have international feet? didn't anyone give you a head's up about the metric system?
< 1371782249 74902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much beer do you get when you ask for a pint on the continent
< 1371782249 280078 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen can you say that with a straight face
< 1371782252 824660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 mL?
< 1371782257 652052 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes
< 1371782259 829369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading the history of the foot on wikipedia a bit back
< 1371782261 703695 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :International, international nautical, *and* US survey.
< 1371782263 41202 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :30cm is huge though
< 1371782266 827221 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like.  wow that's a big foot
< 1371782302 606485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not like the inch is actually the same length as anyone's actual inches
< 1371782304 753934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yeah
< 1371782310 150183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my foot is about 28 cm long
< 1371782319 349848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my foot is about 1 elliott foot long
< 1371782332 867943 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a big foot
< 1371782341 149437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are they all the same length
< 1371782341 518937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1371782345 631072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wear men's US size 13 wide
< 1371782364 952240 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually my feet are slightly different in size
< 1371782374 98654 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mine are about ~22.5cm?  I'm not sure  they differ in size though
< 1371782376 818306 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, that's my shoe size as well.
< 1371782377 658881 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine too
< 1371782390 664045 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm misremembering and my feet are merely nearly a foot in length.
< 1371782393 645927 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug*
< 1371782394 181335 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wear a size 5.5 or 6 usually since it depends on brand
< 1371782399 597066 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah I was doing speleology with that guy Mathieu once, and he was measuring every height we had to climb down in "decamathieus"
< 1371782403 802718 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my right foot is also like at least half a size bigger for some weird reason
< 1371782414 733599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's quite common
< 1371782425 330776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am perfectly symmetrical
< 1371782445 477720 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am perfectly
< 1371782457 227054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is that so
< 1371782462 50414 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like annoying when I am like "okay a 5.5 would fit my left perfectly but now my right foot won't fit and aksdjfls"
< 1371782469 91107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no
< 1371782476 365431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't think so anyway
< 1371782477 704294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it?
< 1371782505 295929 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so kmc has like 9 sizes larger than me
< 1371782517 83603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i hugged kmc when he was visiting in san francisco and it was great
< 1371782520 906225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should try it
< 1371782542 14538 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was with that woman and she saw a butterfly and she said it was wonderful how butterflies were perfectly symmetrical and I told her she was symmetrical too and then she started talking about her breasts
< 1371782552 240746 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1371782567 365187 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a great pickup line
< 1371782590 572868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmchugs
< 1371782609 688376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :km chugs
< 1371782619 369510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: what, talking about butterflies?
< 1371782644 987290 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's what you're into
< 1371782720 662658 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I like the way you butterfly, girl."
< 1371782755 166753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, would elliott be horrified to discover that I've actually started conversations with girls?
< 1371782762 171832 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels vaguely similar to pickup lines
< 1371782769 402344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1371782772 218463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh..at
< 1371782773 22503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that you aren't trying to build up to ask them out on a date
< 1371782777 700433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just talk to them
< 1371782781 181109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1371782784 201127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric
< 1371782788 486713 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started a conversation with a female of the species once
< 1371782791 434657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I broke him
< 1371782793 42318 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, I think I did
< 1371782794 114317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it feel similar to actually just talking to people
< 1371782797 101206 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise is a girl's name right?
< 1371782812 717617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: starting a conversation is different from talking to people
< 1371782814 324986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels vaguely out of place in this conversation

< 1371782831 929734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and starting a conversation with someone of the opposite gender has social awkwardness built in
< 1371782847 284995 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what happened to this channel
< 1371782855 210942 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: does this make you awkward? :V
< 1371782857 130219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ?
< 1371782864 897550 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was funny :(
< 1371782865 968437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you're aware they're of the opposite gender
< 1371782867 40289 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody laughed
< 1371782867 845200 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel*
< 1371782889 760853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuing a conversation is pretty easy, though
< 1371782894 167207 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i cried & i think thats close enough
< 1371782913 374750 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: are you even old enough to get the reference?
< 1371782919 5214 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know I usually don't talk to girls I just stalk them at night
< 1371782921 749106 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know who alise is
< 1371782922 818619 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty effective
< 1371782923 86725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371782928 235147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has everyone stopped being terrible yet
< 1371782929 306012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_................
< 1371782929 842045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: ?
< 1371782930 47371 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371782932 785772 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they really haven't
< 1371782933 321187 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre all still terrible
< 1371782934 394422 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aight
< 1371782935 464979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no it's gotten worse
< 1371782937 950558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric
< 1371782945 570300 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PART #esoteric :"I think I'm going to join elliott in some better place"
< 1371782947 215224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I agree with mnoqy and fizzie
< 1371782949 89424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Fiora
< 1371782960 234806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, no fair parting and screwing up my tab complete
< 1371782961 609901 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ok then
< 1371782968 388564 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna go to bed bye
< 1371782971 911019 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1371782972 446339 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi
< 1371783021 270990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no
< 1371783079 948589 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, kmc still has voice?
< 1371783084 233491 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was a one-time joke or something
< 1371783084 500954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yes i do
< 1371783091 511112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a one-time joke and that time is now
< 1371783284 633702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I was going to voice Gregor
< 1371783286 820411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's already voiced
< 1371783339 14120 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRAGEDY
< 1371783347 251018 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PART :#esoteric
< 1371783423 935100 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hahahahahahahahahah i get it
< 1371783425 906444 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny
< 1371783471 814153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, coppro's reaction is funny
< 1371783584 909233 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdn.meme.li/instances/400x/32780540.jpg
< 1371783598 298885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, people are posting image macros on IRC, now?
< 1371783638 27576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad that Fiora left
< 1371783646 948221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :again
< 1371783656 682578 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371783666 379579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1371783697 546617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I keep forgetting that I can't generally trust even people in #esoteric to behave themselves
< 1371783702 101054 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just googled for it
< 1371783705 350518 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if that counts
< 1371783707 797972 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it does, then yes
< 1371783724 594994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the method via which you found it have any influence on what it is?
< 1371783746 485915 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the technical definition of image macro
< 1371783766 803039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do I
< 1371783779 507268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably defined on urban dictionary, though
< 1371783781 115150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks

< 1371783799 754975 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs a defn. it's easy to see it's awful and why would anyone post it jeez
< 1371783808 632640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371783819 526714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: this is actually entirely based on the URL
< 1371783837 597550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :URLreading is a skill that can be quite finely developed if you're the sort of person who seldom clicks on links
< 1371783849 150161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also who's alise
< 1371783856 808591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :old nick for elliott
< 1371783874 687997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was a worthwhile experiment in Internet attitudes IMO
< 1371783895 286475 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371783898 538771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it over yet
< 1371783927 282618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you mean by "it"
< 1371783932 791343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the conversation is still bad, except on a different topic
< 1371783940 63093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it's moronic rather than creepy
< 1371783944 82643 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about alise now
< 1371783957 723983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not the alise stuff, the image macro stuff
< 1371783994 495368 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like not "over"
< 1371784029 518128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, who do you think is a better cleanup wall in VGC, Ferrothorn or Reuniclus?
< 1371784145 999091 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is VGC again?
< 1371784169 447492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 from 6, level 50, doubles
< 1371784178 446582 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. in that case no idea
< 1371784185 532590 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll vote reuniclus because he looks funnier
< 1371784472 694099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what did you learn by being alise
< 1371784769 866777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyway
< 1371784818 149441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :referring to a woman as 'a female' is a standard speech pattern among creepers
< 1371784825 691233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't mean you're a creeper just for saying that, but it might be best avoided
< 1371784871 822932 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is? Huh.
< 1371784903 491416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it is very common even among people who are not creepers
< 1371784908 119140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does have that association, at least for me
< 1371784910 920838 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm.
< 1371784923 275216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick up artists &c.
< 1371784931 606656 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :SmoothPUA
< 1371784936 736532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1371784940 548013 :SmoothPUA!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey babe
< 1371784943 531847 :SmoothPUA!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up?
< 1371784947 819159 :SmoothPUA!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :a/s/l/?
< 1371784954 580546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SmoothPUA: not funny
< 1371784955 959784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously
< 1371784957 928449 :SmoothPUA!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin
< 1371784959 265715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SmoothPUA: i don't want to have sex with you because you failed to subtly insult me
< 1371784963 819085 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn
< 1371784968 103135 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rookie mistake
< 1371784970 839102 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It more has an association of someone without any actual connection with women. Like, view them purely in the abstract.
< 1371784979 946569 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I guess that would be "creeper", yes.
< 1371784980 757934 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there a joke there
< 1371784982 625679 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sorry!
< 1371784999 950009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: it was a really bad one that it's not worth trying to understand
< 1371785002 631859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, rather, Poe's Law
< 1371785020 392095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure Poe's Law isn't relevant here
< 1371785022 535900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i find "a female" (noun) much worse than "female" (adjective), is it only me?
< 1371785031 176985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, probably, I keep getting them mudled up
< 1371785032 516131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not having too much trouble distinguishing whether copumpkin is being serious
< 1371785035 230242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's same for me
< 1371785036 379528 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: reminds me of "an illegal"
< 1371785041 911697 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a usage I hate
< 1371785061 352957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i say "female people" when e.g. i want to be age-neutral
< 1371785067 883436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or "male people")
< 1371785071 695415 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[why the heck are we even talking about this gone damn]]
< 1371785079 11834 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :dayum
< 1371785088 38350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
< 1371785097 95233 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :clay, is that you?
< 1371785098 741449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when a conversation goes downhill and peters out because of it
< 1371785111 519477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the correct response is not to notice it in scrollback, then retroactively attempt to add to it
< 1371785131 323170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think some amount of metadiscussion about what's ok and isn't ok is reasonable
< 1371785149 510772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sure, that's fine, but it has to be discussion about what's acceptable in the channel, not in general
< 1371785216 966021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw this as friendly advice on how to avoid being unintentionally creepy
< 1371785218 840886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug*
< 1371785221 520294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can talk about something else
< 1371785235 26163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we talk about hugs
< 1371785240 114012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like hugs
< 1371785250 367915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell user's golfing system
< 1371785255 821363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, gofer (?)
< 1371785274 51542 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's have ais523 tell us what is bad and unacceptable, because I just tuned in a little while ago and am sorry for doing that, but I'm not entirely sure what was wrong with it so it would help me to understand (I'm not even doing this rhetorically)
< 1371785321 46422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: basically because it's clear that different people have substantially different ideas of where the line is
< 1371785344 264725 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the line for creepy PUA-like behavior you mean?
< 1371785348 934753 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :
< 1371785355 908301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the line for gender/sexism discussion
< 1371785356 113427 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :
< 1371785394 114785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's impossible to hold a discussion without either some people thinking it's going round in circles, or other people thinking it's unacceptable
< 1371785420 127988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as such, the conversation is almost guaranteed to go downhill when spread across the channel as a whole
< 1371785424 996469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I only just realised that in the past hour or so
< 1371785429 859116 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, fair enough
< 1371785438 776190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even though it would probably work between any two individual members)
< 1371785474 532309 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoy mocking the PUA mentality in various ways, but I'll refrain from pretending to engage in it henceforth
< 1371785478 551285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's relevant that copumpkin and i are both guys and we've met in person
< 1371785497 612024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't think so, perhaps it is?
< 1371785500 289846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see why it would be
< 1371785507 939921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there wasn't much risk of me misinterpreting his joke
< 1371785522 91759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it's not in PM
< 1371785528 148924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371785532 63856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there are 61 other people who might potentially misinterpret it
< 1371785545 683196 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I buy that
< 1371785561 707274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug, it's one thing to say people shouldn't make jokes making fun of PUA or whatever, it's another thing to say that all discussion of sexism is banned because it causes the channel to go "downhill"
< 1371785572 463552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like you're arguing the latter and i'm not ok with that
< 1371785575 407237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is pretty weird that ais523 is calling out copumpkin but not whath appened earlier
< 1371785593 772552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is
< 1371785599 398367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1371785609 323887 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, getting called out is good, I've been thoroughly indoctrinated by my job
< 1371785609 859487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not really trying to pick on people, I'm trying to shut down the subject
< 1371785622 589941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which involves notifying people that I'm trying to get rid of it
< 1371785622 857712 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it obviously isn't working
< 1371785627 411137 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: dare I ask what your jerb is?
< 1371785635 710666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is easier when someone's trying to start/restart a conversation, than when the conversation's in full swing
< 1371785640 346819 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I'm a professional criticizee/criticizer
< 1371785649 618120 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg ChanServ CLEAR #esoteric USERS
< 1371785653 700552 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why they pay you the big bucks
< 1371785655 307921 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shuts down a subject"
< 1371785656 915899 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371785667 399310 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: something like that :P
< 1371785677 224508 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I write software
< 1371785688 11942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well clearly you can do something really obnoxious so that the conversation switches to what an awful op you are, rather than about what the conversation was about before
< 1371785703 784106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that only works limited times, and is sort-of hostile to your continuing presence in the channel
< 1371785721 49647 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys I made a kitten cry the other day by stealing its saucer of milk
< 1371785732 732000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kittens can cry?
< 1371785732 937189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: did you read _The Door into Summer_
< 1371785736 216528 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371785761 732346 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see, I didn't know that either. Learn new things every day!
< 1371785767 136894 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write software? how unusual
< 1371785775 19130 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: yeah, really unexpected isn't it!
< 1371785787 504406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, though, I wasn't intending to single out copumpkin, rather I was trying to inform em about something e might have missed due to not being in the conversation earlier and/or not being able to read my mind
< 1371785828 915173 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's like a Prolog program, where we normally query the software and get copumpkin, but you can also do it the other way around.
< 1371785858 618056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway shutting down discussion of social justice because it's an unpleasant topic for white men is pretty bad.  and that may not be what ais523 is advocating, but it's not clear to me yet that he's not advocating that
< 1371785858 823199 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, I appreciate it, really :) I mostly try to be as non-assholish as possible and it's good to be reminded when I fail
< 1371785875 339037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not something you can sort out in PM
< 1371785879 928973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's about *community* standards
< 1371785925 435550 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole ironic asshole thing is something I'm trying to improve about. I should read some scrollback and then probably not bring it back up
< 1371786099 701605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while we're at the bottom of this hill, someone should rename "Stalker mode" on http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/
< 1371786131 802567 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :social justice is interesting because it requires prior education to talk about constructively; usually this education can't be communicated as part of a single discussion
< 1371786140 200995 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1371786145 900494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure what the phrase means
< 1371786212 486161 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Social justice is justice exercised within a society, particularly as it is applied to and among the various social classes of a society." cool thanks wikipedia
< 1371786234 952460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, even with a definition, I'm /still/ not entirely sure what the phrase means
< 1371786247 423022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no expert but i just meant it as "talking about racism sexism etc. and what to do about them"
< 1371786248 802285 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes the joke is: that's not a very good definition
< 1371786270 13594 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically yeah, not being dumb to marginalized groups, or "minorities" as the jargon goes
< 1371786283 801054 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty esoteric stuff!!
< 1371786298 902181 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :achieving legal (de jure and de facto), cultural, and socioeconomic equity.
< 1371786340 801420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought ais523's issue was "objecting to things that are considered harmful by doing them sarcastically", not to talking about them in general
< 1371786356 26263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait
< 1371786357 169726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind
< 1371786363 780233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of a different part of the conversation
< 1371786374 612559 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :being aware of the perpetuation of inequity and disavowing personal benefit from it
< 1371786400 70038 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and not denying that one benefits from it)
< 1371786402 261487 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: At least some of us are not heterosexual white men?
< 1371786405 510462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: my objection's to "continuing a discussion that's already been determined to be unhelpful via making a joke"
< 1371786425 793502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"determined to be unhelpful"
< 1371786427 438956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by whom
< 1371786428 814376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: thanks pikhq ☺
< 1371786444 252433 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I took it as pointing out that the ironic thing gets old quickly
< 1371786446 824009 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll keep taking it that way
< 1371786458 329597 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-139-209.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if I could get my girlfriend on here we could diversify shit even more. :P
< 1371786481 864099 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, if we could get my 401k on here we could di--
< 1371786482 936377 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit
< 1371786485 881440 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no we couldn't :(
< 1371786495 606088 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yeah 'disavow' might not have been the right word
< 1371786496 714432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1371786516 496320 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :abdicating? dunno
< 1371786524 610070 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abstain
< 1371786530 844206 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can't, of course
< 1371786549 914190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :di++
< 1371786564 833246 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, some such things are active, others passive...
< 1371787069 62432 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371787617 673072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyone have ideas on doing arbitrary computation with iconv?
< 1371787683 554865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for a conditional, you can convert back from UTF-8
< 1371787689 63272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or similar multibyte encodings
< 1371787872 734401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you'd want some sort of encoding with frame ambiguity, though
< 1371787877 540686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 is, sadly, designed to avoid that
< 1371787959 691604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are others :)
< 1371787987 900949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift-jis I think
< 1371788009 184891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, me not knowing how they work is a problem for working out ways to program with them, though
< 1371788074 214143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv also supports ISO-2022 which has state that persists across an arbitrary number of bytes
< 1371788711 983509 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :“You can’t hold the World Cup with hospitals”
< 1371788719 516254 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :he makes an excellent point there
< 1371788892 56416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PART #esoteric :"my worldview is inadequate"
< 1371788958 140947 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: iconv state is finite (at best, ~16 words), isn't it?
< 1371789550 330138 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371790365 425055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each pass yeah
< 1371790377 625719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but each pass can transform an arbitrary length byte sequence
< 1371790387 830933 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't go back though
< 1371790390 510376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would need to apply iconv many times and you would need some external mechanism for looping
< 1371790393 425221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371790403 872007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the goal is not "arbitrary computation" but something less ambitious
< 1371790456 186834 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you may utilize a legacy encoding with no proper round trip
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< 1371802247 661252 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371802687 940570 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371803915 451059 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371803937 448396 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1371804151 910925 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's stalker mode?
< 1371804242 394845 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371804269 899717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: shows the log in real time
< 1371804901 644695 :nooodl!~nooodl@92.184-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371805479 362768 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371806201 361703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371806308 522189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Work done is difference in kinetic energy. Kinetic energy is mass times velocity is force times distance. These are both measured in Joules
< 1371806333 529983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have some quibbles with the mass times velocity part, as i distinctly recall 1/2 m v^2.
< 1371806362 592987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mass times velocity is momentum hth
< 1371806373 113975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan
< 1371806377 522060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf
< 1371806383 755833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when will you stop saying hth
< 1371806404 715529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i find another overused meme to borrow
< 1371806422 860946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not invent one
< 1371806436 742213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can watch it spread
< 1371806460 978068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall reddit tried that once
< 1371806493 210381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it was quite awful
< 1371806511 853496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about the carrot thing
< 1371806517 57670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't precisely spread... yeah
< 1371806528 651327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond reddit
< 1371806530 797044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the monoid thing
< 1371806537 341141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy
< 1371806541 91462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that was on ircnet
< 1371806553 518217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1371806565 308448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :'xactly
< 1371806736 669671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there's a writeup at http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/waffles-dont-you-mean-carrots
< 1371806842 442274 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog get $300,000 in 6 days y/n
< 1371807305 612062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally armkrog means "bent arm" in danish hth
< 1371807333 520023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(s/g/k/ for norwegian)
< 1371807845 942263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Bike, hopefully past tense. The exam is in less than 11 hours <-- HE'S DOOMED
< 1371810376 103526 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94.224.28.191 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371811207 690923 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1371811302 245720 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371811320 178728 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371812466 56493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:39:48:  im googling "huge bed" now #drugz
< 1371812473 321380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:41:23:  why is there furry porn and a picture of some socks. this is the worst image search ever
< 1371812479 209726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECANNOT_REPRODUCE
< 1371812576 391453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're further down
< 1371812745 634386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes turning off safe search for this was a mistake

< 1371812821 95041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this upgraded OS behaves just weirdly and unfamiliarly enough for me to maintain my healthy sense of constant unease
< 1371812828 232666 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good decision
< 1371812868 123879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still cannot reproduce, though.
< 1371812877 798375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see a lot of huge beds, curiously.
< 1371812892 385651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to go and find it again. are you that desperate to find the furry porn
< 1371812903 50272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, maybe not.
< 1371812915 727105 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the socks
< 1371812934 851970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, those beds are _not_ huge.
< 1371812956 230749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was assuming there was some obvious absurdity to be found
< 1371813084 656303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2 in carefully regulating my amount of annoyance and confusion is compiling ghc from source just to get the documentation to build better
< 1371813150 72632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :results so far: headache
< 1371813205 370391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds familiar, in general
< 1371813354 143662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out asus's touchpads don't have very good drivers.  and that playing tatham's puzzles with them therefore sucks.
< 1371813423 595335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to buy you a mouse
< 1371813458 616815 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371813483 209665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a mouse. it's hard to use it when having the notebook on my lap, which i must since i don't have a proper computer table
< 1371813503 462983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to buy you a computer table
< 1371813503 730314 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371813517 691129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i'm saying is i never had trouble with playing them on my old laptop ;_;
< 1371813540 434785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my memory is probably just defective.)
< 1371813568 201900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: how funny would it be on a scale of 0 to 10 if i actually bought oerjan a computer table
< 1371813614 296871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is i don't _really_ want a computer table.
< 1371813626 135205 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, picky.
< 1371813628 524857 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371813630 384851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah
< 1371813637 137192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok i have another idea
< 1371813641 649761 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like a table you put your computer on or a table that is a computer
< 1371813664 73539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i buy you a little mousing area that plugs in via usb and gets heated up
< 1371813675 937370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this is not invented then i'm not sure i want to live in the world
< 1371813684 771718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to live in a small wooden hut with earthen floor and fast broadband, or something.
< 1371813686 365215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is complicated

< 1371813700 701367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does 2/3 sound
< 1371813832 492862 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1371814135 483253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very nice rational hth
< 1371814330 847716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also turns out asus's touchpad driver sometimes crashes. oh it worked again.
< 1371814368 765581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(false alarm. what it actually sometimes does is fail to load at reboot.)
< 1371814396 851111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *reawakening
< 1371814501 656418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i bet it would work perfectly on.... linux
< 1371814924 966126 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
< 1371815656 561223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is mosh failing me <-- i'd say so
< 1371816228 597211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 01
< 1371816236 334695 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1)  I used computational linguistics to kill her.
< 1371817104 190745 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94.224.28.191 PART :#esoteric
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< 1371817660 149542 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1371818133 110529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ \o/ \m/ \m/ _o/\o_ ಠ_ಠ  ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1371818133 377816 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          |   |  `\o/´69    |  |  ¯|¯⌠ |      |
< 1371818133 649025 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          >\ /<    |     /'\ >\  >\|/|    o/`¯º
< 1371818133 854188 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯'¯|_)
< 1371818164 961505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371818187 626603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :   \m/ \m/
< 1371818194 885035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1371818205 523384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :   \m/ \m/   
< 1371818206 59059 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   `\o/´69
< 1371818206 326158 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     |
< 1371818206 595067 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    /'\
< 1371818206 800236 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  (_| |_)
< 1371818247 956106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell myndzi your \m/ \m/ figure is misaligned hth
< 1371818248 161295 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371818248 366534 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  `\o/´69
< 1371818248 366712 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    |
< 1371818248 366823 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_|¯´\
< 1371818248 366930 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                     |_)
< 1371818271 50103 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94.224.28.191 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who/what is myndzi
< 1371818286 938573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is a regular with a script
< 1371818300 19269 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94.224.28.191 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right.
< 1371818644 675484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask  reader's digets used to call that city Frisco
< 1371818644 880676 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371818650 876235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1371818669 369274 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371818682 255197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the _first_ time i decided to rely on IE 10's cut an paste no longer including end-of-line :(
< 1371818694 686242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait never mind
< 1371818699 278106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm
< 1371818716 708390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask  Does this work?
< 1371818716 977562 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371818739 631925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1371818788 87533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Koen_  reader's digets used to call that city Frisco <-- are you sure they didn't mean the _actual_ city named Frisco hth
< 1371818788 293308 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371818954 951478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen_ " In 1904, the residents chose Frisco City in honor of the St. Louis-San Francisco Railway on which the town was founded, later shortened to its present name."
< 1371818955 156617 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371819037 123503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371819049 635622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371819074 570430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit
< 1371819620 820645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c  c.c  c.c  c.c  c.c  c.c  c.c
< 1371819621 75599 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c.cc.c.cc.c.cc.c.cc.c.cc.c.cc.c.c
< 1371819621 333131 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c  c.c  c.c  c.c  c.c  c.c  c.c
< 1371819628 127438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful
< 1371819640 602124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/c.c
< 1371819640 872353 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   c.c.c
< 1371819641 77986 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    c.c
< 1371819644 253701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ c.c
< 1371819644 511396 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | c.c.c
< 1371819644 768065 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 /|  c.c
< 1371819651 497993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ c.c \o/
< 1371819651 756557 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  | c.c.c |
< 1371819652 15963 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  >\ c.c /|
< 1371819655 258429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god.
< 1371820109 359864 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I'll check some day thanks for blowing my mind
< 1371820109 616373 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371820238 802953 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371820637 941011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371820705 486116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list messages
< 1371820705 754092 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell provides: tell ask messages messages-loud messages? clear-messages
< 1371820711 976092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-l
< 1371820714 682981 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_ said 10m 2s ago: I'll check some day thanks for blowing my mind
< 1371820776 418203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: naming your city after something named after another city is rather mind-blowing yeah
< 1371820845 505395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate
< 1371820853 310860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie!!
< 1371820895 269152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FireFly -----###

< 1371820980 526516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw does anyone know whether setting the putty keepalive option will help, hurt, or do nothing about short-time-but-not-short-enough network disconnections?
< 1371821013 883349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAASSS
< 1371821021 543364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops.
< 1371821028 15534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat.
< 1371821028 322404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ass, fizzie..
< 1371821031 533599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.\././
< 1371821036 622621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungot failuer
< 1371821038 230696 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good pair of letters to put in the wrong window
< 1371821038 765938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was supposed to be AAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
< 1371821058 524492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These touchscreen keyboards.
< 1371821089 503944 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :buttbuttin
< 1371821181 187111 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan
< 1371821189 558341 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371821218 397539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi FireFly you are being swatted for complicating my tab completion of fizzie hth
< 1371821275 294811 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could always configure your client to complete nicks in descending alphabetic order
< 1371821349 110265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see that option in /set hth
< 1371821402 20816 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has the average 'hth' count in your lines exceeded 100% yet?
< 1371821410 288565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope.
< 1371821422 766193 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not helpful. :(
< 1371821431 347144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what completion_auto does
< 1371821438 983395 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could encode our messages in permutations of sequences of hth. hth
< 1371821490 950900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: sounds like a dangerous policy that might lead to brainfuck derivatives hth
< 1371821578 308736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait do you mean hth/line fraction if so maybe hth i thought you meant hth/word hth
< 1371821581 918963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371821589 458557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats fizzie -----###

< 1371821605 970568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FireFly:
< 1371821639 326395 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, hth/line
< 1371821668 946525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently irssi suddenly decided to put fizzie first, despite FireFly speaking last
< 1371821683 541702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats irssi -----###

< 1371821698 461631 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it orders nicks in opposite priority of which you'd want to mention them
< 1371821702 484309 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know.. for your discomfort
< 1371821712 281183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i'm not sure
< 1371821742 26209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it rather has the strange idea of prioritizing actual completions used over people speaking
< 1371821785 841486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just talk to me. i have an unambiguous two-letter prefix.
< 1371821827 703463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you do
< 1371821836 942840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has not always been the case
< 1371821882 550700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs \ /|     |      /^\ /|  /|     |      /|  /<  /'\
< 1371822280 206853 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               /'\                   /'¯|_)
< 1371822280 412028 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             (_| |_)               (_|
< 1371822304 190706 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm those \m/ \m/s look a bit weird
< 1371822304 395860 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        `\o/´69
< 1371822304 601227 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          |
< 1371822304 601391 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         /´\
< 1371822304 601500 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       (_| |_)
< 1371822309 550311 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371822312 492554 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, i have calculated it to be three minutes in the future
< 1371822313 888966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: i already told him
< 1371822320 617994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[STARES AT WATCH]
< 1371822333 908857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a bit off, i think
< 1371822353 372270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliop"
< 1371822404 70493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it could also be fizzie that ops me.
< 1371822407 390808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my predictions are unclear.
< 1371822412 534609 :nobody__!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371822416 612508 :nobody__!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PART :#esoteric
< 1371822432 847899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic
< 1371822576 633938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think by useful you mean horrible <-- there is actually no contradiction between those hth
< 1371822614 519882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o
< 1371822618 669715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : o.o 
< 1371822632 211226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1371822634 91828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c
< 1371822634 359591 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69c.c.c
< 1371822634 626604 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69c.c
< 1371822639 222524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAT
< 1371822643 585013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :   c.c
< 1371822643 856306 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c.c
< 1371822644 61704 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   c.c
< 1371822661 695539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :WATER.
< 1371822681 626527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell myndzi " o.o " (only one space in front) looks weird hth
< 1371822681 894532 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371822700 735398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell myndzi s/o/c/g
< 1371822700 940423 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371822706 450398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cnly cne space
< 1371822723 862807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You are so demanding.
< 1371822745 749265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : o.o
< 1371822746 16875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c   c.c
< 1371822746 287936 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69c.c.c c.c.c
< 1371822746 555760 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69c.c    c.c
< 1371822750 869504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1371822780 924610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :  c.c  how abut two spac?
< 1371822781 460214 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c.c
< 1371822781 665241 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c
< 1371822790 379048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's akey.
< 1371822799 326601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o|
< 1371822799 594509 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |
< 1371822799 799945 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/´\
< 1371822854 748418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o|  c.c  \o/  ಠ_ಠ
< 1371822855 15372 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |  c.c.c  |   ¯|¯⌠
< 1371822855 282920 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<   c.c  /'\   >\|
< 1371822859 349372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371822880 296140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/  ಠ_ಠ
< 1371822880 563783 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |   ¯|¯⌠
< 1371822880 866889 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<  c.c /|   /< |
< 1371822934 830168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ c.c \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
< 1371822935 97848 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠`\o/´69       `\o/´69   ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c |
< 1371822935 302955 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ c.c  |\ /< |  |           |     /| |/|  c.c /<
< 1371822936 171087 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              (_|¯'¯|_)      /´\
< 1371822936 438231 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                           (_| |_)
< 1371822973 298893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ _o_ _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
< 1371822973 566579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :  o.o
< 1371822973 833967 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠`\o/´69    |   |   |  `\o/´69   ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c |
< 1371822974 39322 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 >\ c.c  >\  |\|  |      >\ /<  /|    |      |\|/<  c.c /^\
< 1371822974 959245 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              (_|¯´\                 /`\
< 1371822975 164601 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                   |_)             (_| |_)
< 1371822976 299177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :  o.o
< 1371822978 978453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : o.o
< 1371822982 766772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1371822984 947231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was oerjan.
< 1371822986 861924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my line.
< 1371822988 200297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier.
< 1371822993 866110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it makes more sense now
< 1371823003 977693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
< 1371823004 283630 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠`\o/´69    | c.c.c |  `\o/´69   ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c |
< 1371823004 551911 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ c.c /´\  |\|  |      |\ c.c  |\   |     /< | |\ c.c /|
< 1371823005 353102 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 /´¯|_)              /´\
< 1371823005 598762 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|                 (_| |_)
< 1371823039 1689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def celebrate ul (\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/)S
< 1371823039 206881 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined.
< 1371823047 395558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate
< 1371823047 603067 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/
< 1371823048 468277 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠`\o/´69    | c.c.c |  `\o/´69   ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c |
< 1371823048 673413 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/|  c.c  |\ /< |  |     /|  c.c  >\   |     /´\| >\ c.c /|
< 1371823048 878497 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              (_|¯`¯|_)              /´\
< 1371823049 83762 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                   (_| |_)
< 1371823150 411351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new and modern festival
< 1371823224 264066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is ghc STILL fuckin compiling
< 1371823260 438788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: quite well, i assume
< 1371823287 400922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's because you don't have an actual supercomputer hth
< 1371823310 781283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy me a new computer!!
< 1371823344 203858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc there was some bug report that required one of the simons to buy an EC2 instance to fix it)
< 1371823363 603471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something amazon
< 1371823368 157141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote expensive
< 1371823368 362732 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bos says: other companies use expensive firewalls and crypto hardware to protect their intellectual secrets. edwardk uses category theory!
< 1371823370 607690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote expensive
< 1371823370 812870 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bos says: other companies use expensive firewalls and crypto hardware to protect their intellectual secrets. edwardk uses category theory!
< 1371823374 89815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote bug.cost
< 1371823374 354965 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonMarlow says: This is the largest program (in terms of memory requirements) I've ever seen anyone run using GHC.  In fact there was no machine in our building capable of running it, I had to
< 1371823374 560274 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire up the largest Amazon EC2 instance available (68GB) to debug it - this bug cost me $26.
< 1371823590 891358 :itsy!~digital_w@84.93.170.182 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371823830 175472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :68 is an odd even number.
< 1371823930 913376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have I mentioned that I'm ordering people to figure out EC2 pricing on my behalf. you're the next candidate
< 1371823979 748402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's (still) a terabyte of RAM at CSC's http://csc.fi/ shell/serial-job/misc servers.
< 1371823983 36354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll get back to you as soon as i start buying EC2 instances hth
< 1371824004 821831 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it's for _me_, you see.
< 1371824016 792130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: csc.fi are so good they don't even have a web page, apparently
< 1371824023 281014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to put lambdabot on EC2
< 1371824039 576609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well linode have had a rather awful security track record recently...
< 1371824049 578789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic
< 1371824055 743437 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would be kind of nice to move esolangs.org/lambdabot/my IRC client to somewhere I vaguely trust
< 1371824084 460325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but EC2's pricing scheme is so ridiculously byzantine that I have absolutely no idea if I can make it affordable or not
< 1371824120 826546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Aw, they're not no-www compatible or something.
< 1371824157 345742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Android's browser lied to me and added www. itself.)
< 1371824205 78900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: last thing i recall is someone claiming it's only cost effective for extra capacity at times of high load?
< 1371824207 225549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you are welcome to supply me with an ssh account
< 1371824237 247792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Infiniband. Best name for a technology.
< 1371824254 838871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's the general kind of thing I've heard too but I've also heard it could be about equally-priced for vaguely comparable specs to what I have for my Linode more recently if I get a reserved instance
< 1371824259 664037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is v. complicated
< 1371824267 475511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371824291 217465 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za QUIT :Quit: Nothing so gives the illusion of intelligence as personal association with large sums.
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< 1371824565 114005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is that guestbot guy i saw it talk yesterday i think
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< 1371824586 797792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :guestbot: who are you
< 1371824592 360093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :guestbot: help
< 1371824631 630742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it queried hackego once i think
< 1371824638 899163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome guestbot
< 1371824641 307987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME guestbot
< 1371824641 843318 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06guestbot: Welc03ome to the international 05hub for es10oter12ic programmin10g languag05e design an09d 05deplo07yment09! 07For mo04re information, 11check out ou09r wi09ki: http14:/07/esolangs.or02g/wiki/M12ain_05Page.07 (For the 03oth10er kind of 13e05soteri09c03a,06 try #esoteri02c 09on 02irc.dal.03net.)
< 1371824643 452613 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUESTBOT: WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHECK OUT OUR WIKI: HTTP://ESOLANGS.ORG/WIKI/MAIN_PAGE. (FOR THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA, TRY #ESOTERIC ON IRC.DAL.NET.)
< 1371824650 759764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome guestbot | h
< 1371824653 799844 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :guehstboht: Wehlcohme to the ihntehrnahtiohnahl huhb fohr ehsohtehrihc prohgrahmmihng lahnguahge dehsihgn ahnd dehployhmehnt! Fohr mohre ihnfohrmahtiohn, chehck ouht ouhr wihki: http://ehsohlahngs.ohrg/wihki/Maihn_Pahge. (Fohr the ohthehr kihnd ohf ehsohtehrihca, try #ehsohtehrihc ohn ihrc.dahl.neht.)
< 1371824660 954152 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run relcome guestbot | hyphenate.fi
< 1371824664 226131 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06gu-e09stbot: We06lco-me to t10he in-te04rn07a-ti04o-na05l hub 04for07 e-so-ter04ic 14prog-ram-ming lan-gu-a-ge de-sign and dep-lo-y-men12t! For mor14e 04in-for-ma-ti-on, check out o12ur wi14ki: http06:/11/e-so-langs.org/wi08ki/Ma14in13_Pa04ge.08 (For the ot-her ki04nd of11 e-sot07e-ri-ca, try #09e-so-te-ric 04o02n
< 1371824672 42217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i feel all necessary precautions have now been taken.
< 1371824679 546138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1371824710 610502 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, guestbot is a test for a browser scripted automated irc client
< 1371824734 275153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you for real
< 1371824748 43554 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you for real?
< 1371824758 814420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371824790 182509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is inch a synonym for thumb? <-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inch#Etymology
< 1371824847 254321 :guestbot!4346fde2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.70.253.226 PART :#esoteric
< 1371824864 418732 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I was indeed doomed
< 1371824920 376131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear
< 1371825158 357068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : which is why the idea of a kilobel or megabel is so earthshattering <-- that's _literally_ earthshattering, of course.
< 1371825171 566129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and no, i'm not misusing literal)
< 1371825185 219553 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I literally never misuse “literally”.
< 1371825206 356677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe slightly, it's not the _idea_ that is earthshattering.
< 1371826201 928896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD IT'S STILL COMPILING
< 1371826211 743369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been like four hours.
< 1371826279 555234 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371826443 89059 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-204.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wehat are you compiling
< 1371826456 865938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that like normal for ghc
< 1371826516 809083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it was quicker last time i did this at least
< 1371826538 765399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I remember someone complaining about how habitually compiling GHC and Android takes a long time.
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< 1371926970 58508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hi
< 1371927782 393759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different point of reference, different wavefunction, and all that stuff, is part of what my point is when I was saying those things.
< 1371928564 312407 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1371928783 794303 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this may be the dumbest thing I have ever seen http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/introducing-the-nsa-proof-font
< 1371928785 21609 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1371928803 714228 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They think it's impossible to have OCR software trained to recognize a new font?
< 1371928825 979517 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1371928833 261757 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: Their "false" font, which has a large letter and a small letter where the small letter is the real letter, guess what? real a maps to fake z
< 1371928841 114319 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so forth
< 1371928848 820970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you aware of captchas
< 1371928910 391927 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captchas don't use one specific font though. I think if there was a captcha that always turned a into one of 6 shapes, it would be defeated easily
< 1371928918 215468 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are six 'fonts' in this package)
< 1371928980 280038 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it were software that created a new font for each document based on this concept, that might be useful, but as-is?
< 1371928980 336367 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where would I be able to find a 100x100 nonogram?
< 1371929018 856211 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that NSA
< 1371929039 384318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also,
< 1371929042 306823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Sang has no illusions that even a clever cryptographic font—which you can use in email messages to shield them from snoops and font-recognition bots—will remain encoded for long. They're not meant to be long-term tools with which to combat the NSA. Rather, he views them as an awareness-raising measure.
< 1371929047 471295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read more: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/introducing-the-nsa-proof-font#ixzz2WyW8HBod 
< 1371929050 467747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew
< 1371929052 499558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well ]]
< 1371929054 899412 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid copy-paste hijacker
< 1371929054 957349 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1371929118 533331 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The video doesn't exactly make it clear
< 1371929145 672188 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :encoding as images seems kind of inefficient if you're just using it for email
< 1371929171 644453 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea where I got that link from
< 1371929386 741954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Verilog use a list of I/O ports rather than a single bit vector as the I/O port of a module?
< 1371929448 17693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make up "HWPL" which does not have these and the other problem of Verilog and other hardware programming languages.
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< 1371930474 965625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why are you in that channel help
< 1371930521 47783 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's scheming.
< 1371930536 643411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike has been in #haskell before! I'm innocent!
< 1371930546 505186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I am scheming. constantly
< 1371930611 992007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well take it to #scheme
< 1371930790 145815 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Fark.
< 1371930802 470472 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is where I got that link from)
< 1371930819 80849 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible.
< 1371930888 594454 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fark.com/comments/7809821/Introducing-NSA-Proof-Font-a-typeface-that-would-be-unreadable-by-text-scanning-software-whether-used-by-a-government-agency-a-lone-hacker-misdirecting-information-sometimes-not-giving-any-at-all
< 1371930895 155325 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most Farkers understand this
< 1371931349 16035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371931551 711216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- is it just me or does that subreddit have css that places a red dot in a fixed position on the screen, so it looks like something's wrong with it...
< 1371931555 210655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1371931562 470369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/1gu52n/back_in_my_day/ <--
< 1371931660 596788 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't see the red dot
< 1371931671 18891 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
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< 1371931822 898520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1371931846 617528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan
< 1371931850 224924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no Bike left
< 1371931854 555019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1371931859 657645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no he's right there
< 1371931861 954466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hike
< 1371931865 750439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :left #haskell
< 1371931867 999924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1371931878 321549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow
< 1371931878 607326 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we on STRIKE yet?
< 1371931881 942113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a terrible person (the jokes is that i also left #haskell)
< 1371931891 305121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: indeed
< 1371931892 644364 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :himc
< 1371932233 624074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow!
< 1371932233 832203 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :America!!  I saw it all!!  Vomiting!  Waving!  JERRY FALWELLING into
< 1371932233 943159 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :your void tube of UHF oblivion!!  SAFEWAY of the mind ...
< 1371932240 383184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@fortune
< 1371932240 653002 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Succumb to natural tendencies.  Be hateful and boring.
< 1371932242 509796 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1371932597 643575 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bored
< 1371932621 432376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too.
< 1371932812 693987 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
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< 1371932819 856420 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ban me
< 1371932828 342220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.*
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< 1371932834 767051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that about right?
< 1371932855 503133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for hagb4rd? looks it
< 1371932857 926879 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*!*@* would be better.
< 1371932863 966554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ban evasion btw)
< 1371932869 730854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
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< 1371932880 624906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could remove the 77. on the grounds that nobody should use a client that advertises itself as "hand-crafted" :P
< 1371932891 390579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DON'T SAY
< 1371932897 439900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably 77.* includes, like, a ton of stuff, but I doubt it'll come up
< 1371932905 983872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's all mediaways
< 1371932931 417389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. (how do you look that up? I don't really know where to get this information except the ARIN whois stuff)
< 1371932950 494336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :host 77.0.0.0  on the command line...
< 1371932957 292459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that would work.
< 1371932977 880388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er except
< 1371932981 871266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :255.255.255.77.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 77-255-255-255.adsl.inetia.pl.
< 1371932989 315053 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't really want .0.0.0 there do you?
< 1371932993 204298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want information for the whole of the range
< 1371933013 538190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i always thought 0 was the wildcard there
< 1371933035 95897 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, what’s wrong with whois?
< 1371933097 485861 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like a hug
< 1371933110 97367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Taneb 
< 1371933110 533037 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug
< 1371933123 508718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things I decided can be: Numbers are binary by default (and can have X and Z in them too), unless you put # or $ to indicate decimal or hexadecimal numbers. All user-defined words must have prefix, so it won't conflict built-ins and binary numbers. The operators + - * / = < > are static operators so it is only used at compile-time; you could check equal at runtime by &(.X~^.Y) instead though.
< 1371933127 176789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this better?
< 1371933238 537942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm maybe there isn't actually a wildcard system as i've always thought
< 1371933251 106031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: how can you use whois to get information like "$ISP owns this range in 77.*"?
< 1371933297 196994 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois 77.0.0.0, see where the range ends, add one, whois that, rinse, repeat.
< 1371933314 665391 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone might have made a tool to automate that.
< 1371933337 798914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok i just tried whois with the exact ip
< 1371933380 27856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I assign oerjan :P
< 1371933397 479662 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
> 1371933397 502175 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371933403 936789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what are X and Z for
< 1371933410 107713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.*
> 1371933410 129927 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371933419 90185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.180.*
> 1371933419 112122 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371933419 328810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: X is for an unknown or don't care value, and Z is for high impedance.
< 1371933426 312720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did hagb4rd try to evade a ban or osmething?
< 1371933426 986324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
> 1371933427 8823 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371933430 888227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah, for a HDL, I see
< 1371933433 91502 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i thought GmbH was a company
< 1371933433 707781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense
< 1371933434 871174 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the worst
< 1371933437 254587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what whois said the range was, so.
< 1371933441 798686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a type of company
< 1371933455 7013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the famous Inc company
< 1371933456 536633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I thought that too at one point
< 1371933488 460720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a magazine named Inc but the company is Mansueto Ventures
< 1371933497 543182 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's terrible
< 1371933501 268634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: utoneq/untoneq was hagb4rd
< 1371933505 101568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you 77.181 is owned by the same company. oh well.
< 1371933508 979927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371933519 553803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The things I have written about above aren't sensible unless it is a hardware programming language anyways.
< 1371933540 703241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have guessed
< 1371933547 872242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from patterns of talking
< 1371933561 488291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I realised it was a regular but I had to look up the IP to realise it was hagb4rd
< 1371933565 45243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:09 < utoneq> what exactly is a monad.. and where is the difference to a set or a tuple?
< 1371933580 958279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who even is hagb4rd
< 1371933588 855165 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why else would arithmetic operators only at compile-time and numbers being in binary notation by default?
< 1371933589 304330 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I’m looking forward to the monad tutorial he will inevitably write.
< 1371933590 345797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imo op kmc so I can bother him instead. this is a serious proposal.
< 1371933612 907767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love it when people demand an explanation for X by comparison to some Y or Z they erroneously think is related
< 1371933631 170425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the difference is that a monad is a triple
< 1371933633 379992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one more element
< 1371933636 990632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1371933660 841760 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought a monad had but one element!
< 1371933661 773387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am willing to serve as an #esoteric op if my service in such capacity is desired
< 1371933671 151926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn that's some campaign speech
< 1371933674 655248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc for president
< 1371933682 12886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Which one?
< 1371933702 60855 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I wasn't being serious :P
< 1371933711 320392 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, perhaps, the identity element
< 1371933755 600792 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I am sleepy
< 1371933762 61497 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is not even 10 o'clock
< 1371933786 115646 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"really, a monad is just a category with seven elements where each morphism has two inverses"
< 1371933894 336359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each inverser than the other
< 1371933961 219606 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371934128 951687 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Is that unique to monads though?
< 1371934135 715759 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  05:09 < utoneq> what exactly is a monad.. and where is the difference to a set or a tuple?  kmc: the difference is that a monad is a triple  one more element
< 1371934145 417594 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1059)  05:09 < utoneq> what exactly is a monad.. and where is the difference to a set or a tuple?  kmc: the difference is that a monad is a triple  one more element
< 1371934147 926538 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: two spaces!!
< 1371934168 708989 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a set is nothing like a tuple
< 1371934178 537173 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck right
< 1371934179 508906 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :R I P
< 1371934185 461149 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just in a file right i could sed it
< 1371934185 951204 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :R  I  P
< 1371934199 12834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tuple is a set, if that's how you define tuples
< 1371934200 355981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :h-t-h
< 1371934222 908024 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a set is a tuple if that's how you define sets! check and mate
< 1371934223 758167 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3,3) is a perfectly valid tuple though
< 1371934236 593583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :check before you mate
< 1371934238 798891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :paging kuratowski
< 1371934241 431166 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :{3, {3, 3}} is a valid set
< 1371934241 880545 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy to define ordered pairs with sets, dude
< 1371934256 3012 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1371934258 544440 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Isn't that {3, {3}} though
< 1371934262 763037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1059s/ <[^ ]/ \&/' quotes
< 1371934266 587888 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371934272 238220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1059
< 1371934274 183270 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1059)  05:09 < utoneq> what exactly is a monad.. and where is the difference to a set or a tuple? &lliott> kmc: the difference is that a monad is a triple  one more element
< 1371934274 380236 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah you can't define tuples like that, because
< 1371934279 939083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek
< 1371934283 825611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw defining types like tuples in terms of sets is terrible for mathematics. :(
< 1371934284 257363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1371934287 952102 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1371934296 865965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1059s/ <[^ ]/ &/g' quotes
< 1371934297 898700 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you define (a, b) = {a, {b}}
< 1371934300 117611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :&lliott
< 1371934300 953766 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :({0}, 0) would be {{0}, {0}}
< 1371934301 380180 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371934304 298294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1059
< 1371934305 147542 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: here, let me define types as products of prime powers
< 1371934306 111493 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1059)  05:09 < utoneq> what exactly is a monad.. and where is the difference to a set or a tuple?   kmc: the difference is that a monad is a triple   one more element
< 1371934316 930608 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tuple is some elements, where they have an inherent order and can repeat
< 1371934332 702895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: type. theory.
< 1371934338 259973 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :&lliot
< 1371934342 796686 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :defined in terms of primes.
< 1371934343 791988 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth.
< 1371934377 827671 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've rewritten the HoTT source as a diophantine. no need to thank me.
< 1371934391 904467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thike.
< 1371934420 82669 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no need to thank me" that's for sure
< 1371934430 441912 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dream: asking a SO question that becomes a #1 google search result, gaining fifty thousand rep for nothing
< 1371934454 643965 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok, I make a point to thank Bike as little as possible
< 1371934488 953557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=call/cc+implementation&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=EQ_GUbmTIZDwhQetsYCoDg bam
< 1371934492 596981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's not #1 for everyone
< 1371934506 435109 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nice
< 1371934524 940921 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"voted" you "up"
< 1371934541 189972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my voting rings expands further
< 1371934544 46698 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s
< 1371934553 559254 :nooodl!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1371934736 615618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1059s/ utoneq/utoneq/' quotes
< 1371934739 822502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371934741 761564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1059
< 1371934742 625466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc.....
< 1371934743 174501 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1059)  05:09  what exactly is a monad.. and where is the difference to a set or a tuple?   kmc: the difference is that a monad is a triple   one more element
< 1371934745 991295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's falsifying the quote
< 1371934747 445321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott.....
< 1371934750 183700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh true
< 1371934752 363211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you should do is fix your client to not include that awful space
< 1371934753 696253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiiiiiine
< 1371934754 878581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then we can repeat the exchange
< 1371934758 355164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add that
< 1371934761 911652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1059s/utoneq/ utoneq/' quotes
< 1371934765 36397 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, okay, it's enlightening if you already know what it means. " good writing here
< 1371934765 413793 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1371934766 228903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1059
< 1371934767 888012 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1059)  05:09 < utoneq> what exactly is a monad.. and where is the difference to a set or a tuple?   kmc: the difference is that a monad is a triple   one more element
< 1371934772 440903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: monad tutorial?
< 1371934772 746463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i was pretty tired
< 1371934811 295379 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :call/cc tutorial
< 1371934829 105302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my rambling SO answer
< 1371934855 727645 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: http://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/cont-monad.xhtml
< 1371934874 168448 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1371934894 612944 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: URL?
< 1371934908 893095 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9050725/call-cc-implementation
< 1371934915 231986 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thike
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< 1371935081 135852 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
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< 1371935450 144159 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
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< 1371935496 737842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.*
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< 1371935504 130615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
> 1371935504 153850 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1371935601 456091 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's kiwiirc and why's it banned
< 1371935614 323168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kawaiirc
< 1371935622 800622 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hand-crafted
< 1371935662 703014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :forbidden crafts
< 1371935667 406634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ban evasion
< 1371935760 733093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also "trusted" by freenode, whatever that means.
< 1371936122 686283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re the earlier discussion on networks, you can ask RIPE whois queries like "77/8 except not the exact match but all first-level more specific inetnum/route objects" to see what all is in a thing. (Though it's a long list for that particular query.)
< 1371936179 157394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Including, among others, some Norwegians, which would be a tragic loss indeed.)
< 1371936209 765981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i just extended it to all ips since i found a completely different range in the logs
< 1371936228 762430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and afaiu no one else in the channel has ever used that client.
< 1371936278 862175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(approximately, anyway)
< 1371936280 409603 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's ban evading on kiwiirc, spammers?
< 1371936282 66294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thor-Henrik Kvandahl" (the admin contact for Telenor Norge's 77.16.0.0/14 block) sounds incredibly stereotypically Norwegian.
< 1371936297 589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the Thor-Henrik part.
< 1371936302 26312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^: hagb4rd
< 1371936307 754133 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :thor-henrik
< 1371936373 650573 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good
< 1371936378 127307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the kvandahl is a stereotypically norwegian toponym.
< 1371936383 290473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah.
< 1371936400 453707 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :now there's an objective reason to ban him
< 1371936517 36582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what's great about ban evasion
< 1371936525 735689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if I ban someone in #haskell, I hope they evade the ban
< 1371936537 197260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it means I can ban them forever and not have to worry about them appealing
< 1371936565 761276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Philosophy question: why are Thunderbird's once-a-day builds codenamed "Daily", while Firefox's are called "Nigthly"? 
< 1371936579 637716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nightly, that is.
< 1371936586 621322 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://adit.io/posts/2013-04-17-functors,_applicatives,_and_monads_in_pictures.html this is probably the best explanation i've read so far
< 1371936588 595284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be even more puzzling if they were called Nigthly.
< 1371936828 148647 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write a monad tutorial!!
< 1371936845 769964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^......
< 1371936857 772933 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know exactly what analogy ill use too!!
< 1371936896 141599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl^ analogy
< 1371936916 258201 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like noodles
< 1371936925 512417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it would work better for comonads
< 1371936931 465714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplicate goes from noodle to nooodle to noooodle
< 1371936933 309040 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :its gonna compare IO to sheet music
< 1371936935 848970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 
< 1371936948 833695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: That explanation looks like it's full of misleading things. :-(
< 1371936963 582732 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it does?
< 1371936967 796651 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: at what point?
< 1371937005 459058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example all 24 points that it talks about "wrapped values".
< 1371937018 288031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's my clever quote about IO String?
< 1371937027 425027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote IO.String
< 1371937027 497290 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf says: getLine :: IO String contains a String in the same way that /bin/ls contains a list of files
< 1371937033 192682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's your clever quote
< 1371937040 601452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I had one too, equally clever though
< 1371937043 68378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc IO.String
< 1371937043 366630 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: it is not hard to troll #haskell for real; you just have to get confused and confrontational about how to convert IO String to String
< 1371937050 674205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c
< 1371937053 375908 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what's wrong with it?
< 1371937067 597910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an IO String is not a String that's been wrapped or "tainted" somehow
< 1371937083 70394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a recipe for how to produce a String by doing some IO
< 1371937096 479150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the String doesn't exist yet; you might never execute the recipe, or you might execute it more than once and get different Strings
< 1371937104 443586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of which contradicts the idea that the recipe itself is an inert, pure value
< 1371937107 568586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo shachaf's quote is cleverer than kmc
< 1371937108 728543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1371937110 736242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1371937114 640161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote monochrom IO.String
< 1371937114 909341 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :monochrom says: How do I extract the IO out of IO String?
< 1371937119 264784 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even cleverer than kmc's quote
< 1371937125 954653 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love shachafs quote
< 1371937131 387212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: but for example a Maybe String *is* a wrapped String (or Nothing)
< 1371937145 883709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from which we conclude that this idea of "wrapping" is not fundamental to monads, but a property of the implementation of *some* particular monads
< 1371937178 186177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's very little you can say about all monads in general, because it's such a general interface
< 1371937190 198272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have trouble "understanding monads" partly because they expect there to be more to it than there is
< 1371937208 478785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of all the stupid bullshit hype by detractors and overexcited beginners alike
< 1371937216 94839 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there actually anyone who doens't understand this stuff
< 1371937237 151015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah i just go off on autopilot
< 1371937242 426842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is a monad like a writing desk
< 1371937243 286433 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there like a table of common monad instances and their implementation of return, bind, join
< 1371937251 770108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I've at least convinced myname why "wrapping" is not a good analogy
< 1371937257 790452 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be a good tutorial
< 1371937271 709919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monad is like a butt
< 1371937292 932529 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i agree in the part that "wrapping" as in "putting something around something other" is not a good analogy
< 1371937353 140728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So which part is good about that explanation you liked?
< 1371937359 951460 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know about  data IO a = Return a | Bind b (b -> IO a)
< 1371937374 213490 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1371937377 680404 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the visualisation of the types is well made imo
< 1371937383 38107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : | PutChar Char (IO ()) | GetChar (Char -> IO ()) | ...
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< 1371937395 16301 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371937402 164689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help b is not in scope
< 1371937403 336396 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly
< 1371937413 308504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I think that Bind isn't quite right, also it's existentially quantified or something?)
< 1371937429 228268 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would write it as a GADT in a real .hs
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< 1371937479 320453 :nooodl^!~nooodl@78-21-40-107.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371937486 978261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be | forall b. Bind (IO b) (b -> IO a)
< 1371937496 857229 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that IO String is a string wrapped up in the sense that you need to perform an interactive computation to get it out
< 1371937556 594933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wrapped" meaning "monad"??
< 1371937563 632262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe "covariant"....
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< 1371938205 455794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: no, there is no String in there
< 1371938216 699255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a description of some IO which you could perform in the future to get a String
< 1371938226 145358 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, katla has a point; there often is.
< 1371938251 327123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there exists a sequence of responses to its requests such that it terminates in a Return then there is a String "inside" the IO String in the same way that Bool -> String is a container of two Strings
< 1371938259 391582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes, yeah, but that doesn't mean that "wrapping" is a useful way to think about IO String
< 1371938268 449153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it mostly shows that "inside" is too vague to really be useful...
< 1371938271 704967 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I hate talking about monad tutorials
< 1371938281 258531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can make this analogy work only if we torture the definition of "wrap" to mean something completely alien to its English meaning
< 1371938287 656978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is how a lot of monad tutorials work out
< 1371938303 117095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are just containers!  as long as you forget everything you know about what the word "container" means
< 1371938320 644692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc just.containers
< 1371938320 796634 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. Maybe you made a typo?
< 1371938322 555672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc container
< 1371938322 660889 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: [After discussing monads, containers, and tortillas] therefore the key difference between a container and a monad is delicious carne asada
< 1371938324 760248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc container
< 1371938324 780680 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: monads are like containers, as long as you forget everything you know about the meaning of the word "container" and take it to be a totally abstract word synonymous with "monad"
< 1371938327 749367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like slip covers
< 1371938331 166672 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i accuse you of plagiarising yourself
< 1371938360 197496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "analogy" just exists to trick people into learning a new abstract concept without being scared off by omg math words
< 1371938496 783962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A monad has two functions, return and (>>=) --"   "OMG math!"  "Fine, a monad is like a burrito.  A burrito has two functions, return and (>>=) ..."
< 1371938558 477860 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with you
< 1371938571 411140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does kmc say to vegetarian burritos
< 1371938573 542445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1371938597 686537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50029
< 1371938628 128646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use Free (CoYoneda f) instead of putting all of the PutChar GetChar in that IO data, which has some problem anyways it isn't a monad (unless it is a private data type), but Free (a functor) is monad, always.
< 1371938637 726931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha
< 1371938645 897235 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free as in CoYoneda
< 1371938650 168419 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RESOLVED WONTFIX imo
< 1371938659 496806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kmc do you like CoYoneda
< 1371938665 528015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "the best type" imo
< 1371938706 894492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am listening to something arond 357 kHz and I have no idea what it is
< 1371938752 10789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frames of hitler interleaved with plans to build a wormhole endpoint
< 1371938793 359543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I thought of is "oracle sequent calculus", add a "oracle operator", for example if it is called # then you add an axiom schema |- #x if and only if |- x is not provable.
< 1371938844 766500 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the lesson i'm getting here is: why the hell are CS people scared of math
< 1371938877 860239 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wrapping" as in "putting something around something other" <-- also, lol
< 1371938880 268634 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :math is great, but i like my math with less than 3 abstraction layers
< 1371938899 356960 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, seems to be aeroport related?
< 1371938924 29790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Why do you think 3 abstraction layers is too much?
< 1371938924 286878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what kind of radio do you have
< 1371938933 25999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I got one of the cheap DVB dongle software-defined radios
< 1371938933 720982 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads as in haskell seem like a pretty straightforward abstraction
< 1371938941 119142 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads are like monoids in endofunctors
< 1371938948 421391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty neat.  doesn't go down to 357 kHz though
< 1371938952 714903 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm using websdr
< 1371938962 476347 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not "too much", but way to abstract if not told carefully
< 1371938971 934641 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
< 1371939077 129063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nifty
< 1371939109 350121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it samples the /whole/ spectrum?? wow
< 1371939156 827097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whole shortwave or something
< 1371939176 633620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping you meant, like, the /whole/ spectrum.
< 1371939194 521165 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be cool to listen to gamma rays
< 1371939233 320105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't they be pretty repetitive
< 1371939235 159445 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. white noise
< 1371939371 400653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if any neutrino detectors are online in this manner
< 1371939380 27842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is a neutrino detector
< 1371939418 467103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott has a neutrino allergy
< 1371939426 669521 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf does too
< 1371939438 75632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be bad
< 1371939450 673757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it is :'(
< 1371939457 314258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing kmc is immune
< 1371939477 585212 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought neutrino detectors didn't detect very much.
< 1371939482 974353 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :often.
< 1371939510 149540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm sure you could make some sort of a social media game out of one.
< 1371939521 939997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes "ping" in your facebooks and whatnot.
< 1371939526 565466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: for every neutrino we detect there are trillions which go undetected
< 1371939529 490683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: scary thought eh
< 1371939776 804727 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can only interact through the weak interaction
< 1371940085 790578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help there's such a thing as a monadic functor
< 1371940090 273060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the same as a monad)
< 1371940662 381280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicians are the worst
< 1371940674 745576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, shachaf is the worst
< 1371940676 897882 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicians come in second
< 1371940732 615799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-(
< 1371940792 267162 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: hey did you hear about the homotopy type theory book? I don't know if you're interested
< 1371940831 437701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is katla
< 1371940853 205620 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw it
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< 1371943561 183611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bored
< 1371943615 6693 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people are bored in #esoteric today
< 1371943622 673748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so
< 1371943634 579621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least three
< 1371943635 867616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :including me
< 1371943640 737968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is the third
< 1371943680 898066 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla
< 1371943694 846727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could you be bored
< 1371943703 794613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much time, so little to do
< 1371943768 953900 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ned to think of something new
< 1371943776 178269 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t play with
< 1371943808 86156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because life sucks, hope this helps
< 1371943831 934426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: instead of being bored you could read some more of that hott book you're such a big fan of
< 1371943885 254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot to consider the part where I'm lazy
< 1371944004 816101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered not being lazy
< 1371944007 973857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
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< 1371945414 956100 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371946074 46354 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1371947184 685393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can I join the bored
< 1371947190 332707 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371947227 654233 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not bored anymore so you can use my space
< 1371947277 970761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: how are you all bored
< 1371947302 645609 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Herr Slossenn Boschen accompanied himself.  The prelude did not suggest a comic song exactly.  It was a weird, soulful air.  It quite made one’s flesh creep; but we murmured to one another that it was the German method, and prepared to enjoy it." wow this book is great.
< 1371947308 371167 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A+ would be shachaffed again.
< 1371947342 894973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good old Herr Slossenn Boschen
< 1371947372 716027 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hero, imo
< 1371947375 376871 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1371947430 415864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you have been counted
< 1371947430 937200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you sure the two students aren't the real heroes here
< 1371947447 100655 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION went out and did some shopping and then kind of half fell asleep

< 1371947447 934993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you are filling in for katla
< 1371947455 519928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla...?
< 1371947469 554243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, katla was bored earlier.
< 1371947474 861081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: katla was previous bored and is no longer bored.
< 1371947483 596266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore we had a boredom-vacuüm
< 1371947506 928617 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  sorry, I just didn't know katla
< 1371947575 349215 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't either. we'll have to squeeze into the don't know katla spot.
< 1371947581 115474 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this whole system kinda sucks, honestly
< 1371947675 357583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you shop
< 1371947698 166388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "vacuüm" really correct
< 1371947709 907148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like that would imply three syllables
< 1371947716 939688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's the dutch spelling hth
< 1371947718 647421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacu%C3%BCm
< 1371947720 185888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1371947720 206378 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :diacritics in english is like the opposite of correct. we'd have spelled it vacyuyuyum
< 1371947732 412968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vijkijm
< 1371947742 29251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok
< 1371947934 649444 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn weir
< 1371947936 229318 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "weir" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1371947936 249609 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :weir
< 1371947936 249776 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: a low dam built across a stream to raise its level or
< 1371947936 249885 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :         divert its flow
< 1371947936 249994 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :    2: a fence or wattle built across a stream to catch or retain
< 1371947938 187960 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :       fish
< 1371948054 430054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gergely.imreh.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/watch500-e1371887874832.jpg   wow these things look really doofy
< 1371948168 789612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Fiora if you're bored you could read the book Bike is reading
< 1371948171 406265 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff
< 1371948178 901629 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NICE FONT CHOICE LOSER!!
< 1371948193 912772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should've used comic sans
< 1371948227 663387 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371948228 874227 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371948394 958257 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :three men in a boat?
< 1371948397 559884 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats it about
< 1371948415 710683 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not talking about a dog
< 1371948442 61215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does a book have to be "about" something
< 1371948479 504214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :current data suggests it's about three men in a boat
< 1371948487 599767 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about a trip four individuals took in a boat on the river
< 1371948494 927827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :from hexham to finland or something
< 1371948503 229256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, kingston to oxford
< 1371948526 537769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait there are a lot of kingstons
< 1371948540 219536 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :really it could be about anything
< 1371948543 669333 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it's kingston upon thames.
< 1371948559 271232 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since. boat
< 1371948567 240685 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it's the memory manufacturer
< 1371948574 657499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Road,_Oxford it's actually a land boat on the shortest trip ever.
< 1371948581 799626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :h
< 1371948587 685406 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s
< 1371948593 409668 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺
< 1371948596 96052 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you're welcome shachaf)
< 1371948605 977308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thike
< 1371948613 157360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a trip from newcastle upon thames
< 1371948616 924179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a place right
< 1371948651 172739 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :avon upon thames
< 1371948668 922746 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :book?
< 1371948682 668581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/308
< 1371948737 928372 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird looking up the locations and having them exist.
< 1371948740 883180 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :england is weird.
< 1371948743 402973 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa gutenberg's shure changed over the years
< 1371948754 1720 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not used to things, like. existing. for long periods.
< 1371948768 173832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey this book is only from the 90s
< 1371948770 348750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that long ago
< 1371948786 439249 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ii dontget it
< 1371948803 345680 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1890
< 1371948804 215691 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s
< 1371948825 136678 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/files/308/308-h/images/p255b.jpg i dunno guys this looks awfully like two men in a boat
< 1371948832 51403 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other points in favor of this book: it's by a double jerome
< 1371948852 954247 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerome emorej
< 1371948857 648886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three Men In A Boat But One Of Them Turns Out To Be Invisible
< 1371948874 55234 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/files/308/308-h/images/p281b.jpg ah so that's why they were in the boat
< 1371948877 35007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: that picture is: Two novices in a boat
< 1371948889 492969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: that picture is: The trout
< 1371948901 920554 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/files/308/308-h/images/p301b.jpg PRIME THANKS
< 1371948903 452015 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1371948905 405922 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE PRIME THANKS
< 1371948905 699258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that trout is actually REDACTED
< 1371948926 889091 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks prime
< 1371948928 501451 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, prime. Thime.
< 1371948941 737917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks minister.
< 1371948943 321977 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, minister.. Thinister..
< 1371948955 532027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.././g
< 1371948959 204259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes minister
< 1371948959 756271 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/files/308/308-h/images/p315b.jpg they found the magic man. the end.
< 1371948960 826119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister \ minister 
< 1371949020 358810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: that man is no man
< 1371949022 493485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's Neptune
< 1371949026 310182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a planet)
< 1371949063 425905 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's why hes magic
< 1371949071 749940 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u think im dumb???
< 1371949166 376381 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1371949261 677135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mnoqy no
< 1371949261 853834 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1371949778 826732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, dude, http://www.1890s.ca/PDFs/hentschel_bio.pdf
< 1371949857 640824 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wassat
< 1371949875 992413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :harris hth
< 1371949883 245761 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1371949901 830062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: please get a 7-byte nick hth
< 1371949924 719427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.php2python.com/ god's work
< 1371949928 436181 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many charsper byte
< 1371949941 525489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 hth
< 1371949965 694130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: doesn't have anything for SndToJewish
< 1371949974 595418 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's JdToJewish
< 1371949990 746258 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which. wow, it does have.
< 1371949997 952010 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait false alarm.
< 1371950008 206473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SndToJewish is a thing too
< 1371950039 214036 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first search result: PHP :: Bug #64895 :: interger overflow in SndToJewish
< 1371950045 931121 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Followed by: PHP up to 5.5.0 RC1 User Input Sanitizer SndToJewish buffer overflow
< 1371950047 55144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, this is a subject on which I flatter myself I really am au fait. The gentleman who, when I was young, bathed me at wisdom's font for nine guineas a term—no extras—used to say he never knew a boy who could do less work in more time; and I remember my poor grandmother once incidentally observing, in the course of an instruction upon the use of the Prayer-book, that it was highly improbable that I should ever do much that I ought not ...
< 1371950053 2197 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Followed by: 93968: PHP SndToJewish Function Integer Overflow DoS
< 1371950053 93035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... to do, but that she felt convinced beyond a doubt that I should leave undone pretty well everything that I ought to do.
< 1371950067 851200 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yeah it was a security vunlerability, pretty rad.
< 1371950100 153340 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.jdtofrench.php ah yes
< 1371950102 745032 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very helpul
< 1371950103 928265 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f
< 1371950119 598085 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to convert a date later than September 22nd 1806, you could use this function. It's a bit crude and due to the fact the original function terminates in the middle of 1806, it uses 1805 as it's 'terminus post quem'. 
< 1371950339 316788 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371950541 15859 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1371951916 966461 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1371952694 895144 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Henry VIII. and Anne Boleyn.—Disadvantages of living in same house with pair of lovers.—A trying time for the English nation.—A night search for the picturesque.—Homeless and houseless.—Harris prepares to die.—An angel comes along.—Effect of sudden joy on Harris.—A little supper.—Lunch.—High price for mustard.—A fearful battle.—Maidenhead.—Sailing.—Three fishers.—We are cursed.
< 1371952805 888111 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :exciting
< 1371952842 506829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: You should read that book too!
< 1371952862 388066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gracenotes
< 1371952867 357212 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :what book indeed? hello
< 1371952870 875346 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the book about though?
< 1371952877 382751 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why read it
< 1371952888 156556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are two different questions.
< 1371952901 484179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book is _Three Men in a Boat_, by Jerome K. Jerome.
< 1371952903 102993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/308
< 1371952904 145192 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three, if you include mine
< 1371952910 751792 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yours is already answered.
< 1371952929 709621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, come to think about it, so was katla's.
< 1371952936 714365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:48  it's about a trip four individuals took in a boat on the river
< 1371952964 253820 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :which river?
< 1371952975 993197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thames
< 1371953119 332117 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm. for some reason, I don't think of Thames as being very wide
< 1371953138 733228 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it gets narrower as it goes inland
< 1371953322 309385 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I visited the marshes at the shoreline in Mountain View today by bike
< 1371953334 796000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I honestly cannot read "bike" as anything but a name now
< 1371953337 41002 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's extremely window, so it looks like static bodies of water are flowing
< 1371953340 301368 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :*windy
< 1371953348 416561 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they are flowing, but only at the surface
< 1371953426 313233 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: who do you think Gracenotes means? i live right by Mountain View.
< 1371953440 917290 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a place called that. probably the same. i mean how many views of mountains can there be.
< 1371953462 917349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh you've come to visit Gracenotes?
< 1371953466 681820 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thunder-T.png see, look at their logo.
< 1371953476 522488 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet someone put over nine thousand hours of MS Paint work into that.
< 1371953487 134167 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the mountains to be viewed are the ones southwest of here or the ones northeast of here (across the bay)
< 1371953503 433686 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably only had one mountain in mind.
< 1371953509 164004 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean otherwise it would be Mountains View.
< 1371953515 619313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :california has some p. good mountains
< 1371953525 207740 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it just means that there exists a mountain
< 1371953526 732465 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than long island
< 1371953564 274839 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it's a good place for mountain-viewing, but choice of mountain is left as discretion for the viewer
< 1371953634 341050 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I looked it up on the internet, and it is in fact the south/southwest mountains that are being referred to
< 1371953644 460473 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what are the other mountains for?
< 1371953657 329194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long island is p. long
< 1371953672 748144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: california is p. long
< 1371953674 836142 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for viewing, obviously
< 1371953680 414390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hence the comparison hth"
< 1371953856 715066 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my, lows of 40 F (4 C) in the winter and 60 F (15 C) in the summer
< 1371953861 214368 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will I ever survive
< 1371953884 545324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thx for the C"
< 1371953961 595552 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ur walcm"
< 1371953997 132680 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cs for security for shachaf 
< 1371954012 466287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371954314 54938 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: when it was winter here i didn't survive btw
< 1371954507 811484 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1371954520 652704 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb buying plane ticket
< 1371954543 570658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late "u'r already dead"
< 1371954547 523993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1371954683 971086 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip in peace gracenotes
< 1371954705 184195 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice to know the thames has always been polluted and gross
< 1371954736 407452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'always'
< 1371954794 211415 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always and forever
< 1371954859 284140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«As early as the 1300s, the Thames was used as a means of disposing waste produced from the city of London, effectively turning the river into an open sewer. In 1357, Edward III described the state of the river in a proclamation: "...dung and other filth had accumulated in divers places upon the banks of the river with... fumes and other abominable stenches arising therefrom."»
< 1371954946 951643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Stink
< 1371954953 696677 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a critical question
< 1371954965 481960 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fantastic
< 1371954968 763994 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I already plan on putting brussel sprouts in my frittata, will mushroms be a good addition or not?
< 1371954976 351826 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushrooms, rather
< 1371954992 777587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems every great city either has a sizeable river or is located on the ocean
< 1371955016 296757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the best city with neither
< 1371955036 135952 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, tall order. overland transport is kind of hard.
< 1371955053 637781 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past.
< 1371955058 694906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocean or other large body of water, I should say
< 1371955059 206496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ulaanbataar, not that it's very big.
< 1371955080 231950 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn, that's on a river too.
< 1371955084 324950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be some huge landlocked cities in china by now
< 1371955090 337729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe not historically 'great' cities
< 1371955111 820744 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one of the newer ones.
< 1371955122 483634 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in outer mongolia maybe?
< 1371955130 349385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the seine is quite bendy
< 1371955131 155496 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inner, rather
< 1371955138 860213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if it was more or less bendy in the past
< 1371955187 139218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the river in sarajevo is only a few inches deep
< 1371955191 356853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but might have been deeper in the past
< 1371955193 91594 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm, the biggest city in inner mongolia is on the yellow river :x
< 1371955220 30667 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1371955250 23135 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's the capital.
< 1371955277 31420 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371955286 416888 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1371955313 260818 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think urumqi might be dry.
< 1371955335 962162 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! samarkand.
< 1371955354 937976 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1371955362 588099 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oxus was the ancient Greek name of the Amu Daria River and Transoxiana (beyond the Oxus) was the region between this river and the Yaxarte (Syr Daria River). The city of Samarkand is located in a fertile valley midway between these two rivers. " god dammit.
< 1371955439 77726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even phoenix has a river
< 1371955456 986237 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you, phoenix.
< 1371955553 446611 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :your fucks are better allocated for the rest of arizona
< 1371955592 887290 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :las vegas.
< 1371955734 848476 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha kmc 
< 1371955767 553449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vegas is basically a shithole yes?
< 1371955775 960829 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well probably
< 1371955777 114902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't been there but from what i hear
< 1371955780 407787 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no river and that's what's important
< 1371955780 673769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "ve" means "and" in hebrew so i used to think that phrase meant "las and gas"
< 1371955787 159065 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice.
< 1371955790 320307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also i didn't actually know it was a place
< 1371955793 256442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371955801 117940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a microsoft word decoration style thing
< 1371955803 364868 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's hard to get that it exists from ads for it, yeah.
< 1371955806 526780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was p. young
< 1371955812 79081 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than some kind of mystic territory
< 1371955819 831959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a big themepark for drunk lecherous idiots which exists outside the city itself
< 1371955831 127736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should go sometime though
< 1371955848 752152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel like I can't fully understand American culture if I've never been to Vegas
< 1371955902 955251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the city itself is urban decay + recently imported startup hipsters
< 1371955909 270488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bettersolutions.com/word/WVZ299/LL738921911.png
< 1371955944 390656 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :even detroit downtown is fun to visit, I think
< 1371955954 319279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do there
< 1371955960 663727 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the same sense that las vegas puts a lot of economic effort into its downtown
< 1371955967 741075 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, nevada has less than two dozen incorporated cities
< 1371955968 760560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does?
< 1371955971 75927 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, shopping, eating?
< 1371955984 55532 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there that whole casino thing?
< 1371955986 180768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been to reno
< 1371955986 508984 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :*isn't
< 1371955999 246984 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Nevada
< 1371956014 911850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: the fancy casinos are outside city limits
< 1371956032 125210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really is like a theme park
< 1371956040 9258 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so, urban decay
< 1371956059 360286 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh i don't remember wherever i was being like that
< 1371956064 266366 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugeass hotels right in the middle of town
< 1371956079 30165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are casinos and hotels in downtown vegas too but they have a seedy reputation
< 1371956106 8722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's my impression; I haven't been there
< 1371956139 904052 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile oregon has 242
< 1371956146 719282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the CEO of Zappos is spending a bajillion dollars to turn downtown vegas into a startup hipster mecca
< 1371956150 163476 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i've been overestimating how many cities are in places
< 1371956156 709644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pissing off a lot of people in the process
< 1371956159 804203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why.........
< 1371956163 3376 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: aren't hipsters supposed to be environmentally conscious or some crap
< 1371956174 984385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. buying a whole building of low income housing and evicting everyone to make room for more hipsters
< 1371956178 796855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno
< 1371956199 426219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, standards for "cities" sure do vary a lot between states
< 1371956209 133681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.evernote.com/shard/s10/sh/cb5049c0-54e7-477a-92a8-2f49e1fffbf2/96832700c99f170c665364a3414cf92a this is what I read on the subject recently
< 1371956213 640439 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kahlotus is a city in Franklin County, Washington, United States. The population was 193 at the 2010 census" e.g.
< 1371956229 751673 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you read that article, as well?
< 1371956238 411318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371956243 290502 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of interesting, yeah
< 1371956274 217700 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the same way that well-to-do silicon valley types can be very non-intentionally sexist and racist
< 1371956274 238397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen infinity versions of "why Bay Area startup culture is awful and is destroying SF" so it was interesting to read one about a different city
< 1371956299 82989 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and classist, perhaps, in this case
< 1371956299 556868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting that so much has been written on these topics in the past few months
< 1371956327 75270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with most of the criticisms but I'm not sure where this bandwagon is going exactly, or who's pushing it
< 1371956340 226477 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/df8bcb1d55071af4c977aa82d3bccfcb/tumblr_mor89gqYUE1qcw9rdo1_400.jpg racism
< 1371956354 448109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in another week I will be one of those overpaid Mission software jerks so I'd better figure out my cultural context
< 1371956413 428796 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you know it, you'll be bragging about your distance in meters from Mark Zuckerberg and waiting in line for 2 hours to purchase artisan frozen yogurt.
< 1371956419 55152 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is self-hatred a context
< 1371956419 193545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no kmc is turning into a jerk :'(
< 1371956426 108623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :please, waiting in line?  i'll hire a taskrabbit to do that for me
< 1371956435 777151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the best context
< 1371956453 33954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: You really don't like people who wait in lines, huh?
< 1371956453 978481 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you do it yourself, it makes the instagram so much more rewarding
< 1371956461 393670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1371956467 265509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did have some really good ice cream last time I was in SF
< 1371956468 647031 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not for pedestrian things, as such...
< 1371956470 692104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only had to wait about 4 minutes
< 1371956479 655409 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't it frozen yogurt?
< 1371956483 284396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, SF.
< 1371956486 791887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salted ginger sundae from Bi-Rite
< 1371956489 850926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, different
< 1371956499 741840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: When kmc was in Mountain View we went to Yoogl.
< 1371956502 787878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the froyo from "Yoogl" was ok but not fantastic
< 1371956510 266322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1371956516 797230 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it as emblematic of something, although I'm trying to figure out what
< 1371956528 94157 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :emblematic of Yoogl
< 1371956535 69380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google runs out of other things to do, acquires Yoogl
< 1371956538 604727 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there are better emblems
< 1371956547 814912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want some salted caramel ice cream
< 1371956558 428459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: There's a good place in Palo Alto for it!
< 1371956567 829624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Gracenotes i'm pretty sure you should put mushrooms in your frittata
< 1371956571 901068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ricksicecream.com/
< 1371956573 765023 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :palo alto is not on the appalachian trail
< 1371956579 762321 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, Google NYC has gotten the Big Gay Ice Cream Truck to give out ice cream for free in the past (in one of its cafes)
< 1371956580 538135 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it is
< 1371956589 50215 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the big gay ice cream truck a thing
< 1371956594 356249 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there like models on it
< 1371956596 906978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should move the town over here
< 1371956602 714578 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a good ice cream store in NYC
< 1371956606 625039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ice cream truck that has sex with other ice cream trucks
< 1371956610 33242 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also food truck
< 1371956615 69262 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need details re: gay trucks
< 1371956616 677037 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best kind.
< 1371956625 431304 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the ice cream itself that is gay, not the truck
< 1371956715 533500 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :or then again, it may be the shop
< 1371956718 697886 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not certain
< 1371956742 219026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that like s/ice cream truck/human/g
< 1371956748 427641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is ice cream truck not a species of truck
< 1371956767 621496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know
< 1371956790 333533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 'ice cream truck' is a gender of truck
< 1371956797 16243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :confused 😿
< 1371956803 494707 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gay ice cream sounds good too
< 1371956805 186405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many genders of truck are there
< 1371956809 400525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a lot?
< 1371956811 462323 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, it's an identity, not an indication of sexual truck activity
< 1371956813 795487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of sexes of mushroom
< 1371956816 999569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes true
< 1371956825 688857 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :not directly, at least
< 1371956830 788871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or of mushrooms pore anyway
< 1371956831 21269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :trucktivity
< 1371956833 542576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushroom spore*
< 1371956905 269637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: you should grow your own mushrooms for food
< 1371956906 423717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy
< 1371956921 126751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can grow them on recycled newspapers, cardboard, &c
< 1371956927 140624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently rick's ice cream is under new management and ruined now???????
< 1371956931 644730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1371956934 328396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i will investigate :'(
< 1371956935 187009 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't trust any mushroom I can see grow
< 1371956944 70077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its in palo alto?
< 1371956946 998674 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else has to do the growing
< 1371956949 398303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1371956955 84569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, http://www.yelp.com/biz/ricks-ice-cream-palo-alto
< 1371956959 225508 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAFE
< 1371956964 414357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1371956974 640705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at all those reviews
< 1371956982 408139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oyster mushrooms are very easy to grow yourself and very hard to confuse with any kind of poisonous kind of mushroom
< 1371956995 156507 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I don't usually cook with oyster mushrooms
< 1371956997 230295 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a bad idea
< 1371957012 514594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even get one from the grocery store and clone its tissue to make more mushrooms
< 1371957014 437938 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, I will defer what is poisonous and not to mycologists
< 1371957023 59657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have cologists?
< 1371957030 506104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't really do tissue specialization; a bit of the fruiting body can turn back into mycelium easily
< 1371957046 804139 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eh, guess i don't really need these penises atm"
< 1371957069 661992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what if i confuse oyster mushrooms with oysters
< 1371957076 533328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: for some types the identification is very easy; also if in doubt you can post to http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/3
< 1371957079 411986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dont
< 1371957085 371652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1371957109 359609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's so many reviews
< 1371957123 706330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta see what's going on there!!
< 1371957153 265351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made up a format of plugins of Famicom emulator to implement mappers and input devices, which is:  http://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9283&p=113813#p113813
< 1371957238 152464 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushrooms are strange that way. I still think they are plants that wanted to become animals. (not exactly evolutionarily, but, from the perspective of the human palate)
< 1371957282 352954 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is obviously the end goal of evolution
< 1371957317 93924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371957322 79910 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously.
< 1371957345 294614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end goal of evolution is shachaf
< 1371957347 736076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1371957357 844095 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sushi is the end goal of evolution?
< 1371957375 59641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm not sushi
< 1371957390 170077 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the end goal of evolution is creating tasty human food
< 1371957403 771509 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also creating humans
< 1371957411 277481 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are exclusive goals
< 1371957421 974269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trouble with sushi is that it's often made of dead fish
< 1371957433 397588 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: That can't be correct.
< 1371957440 712907 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it can be.
< 1371957443 683434 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean have you had sushi.
< 1371957468 802753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a sushi-like thing with kmc et al. in sf
< 1371957469 353195 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Not always. Sometimes it is made of live fish, and sometimes it doesn't even contain fish.
< 1371957478 152692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that thing count as sushi? not sure
< 1371957577 808043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fast food sushi
< 1371957606 775907 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :living might be used a bit speciously there
< 1371957680 236055 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, potato peeling technology was in a dismal state in the 1890s
< 1371957682 492481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiiiiiiiiiiiiiish
< 1371957707 823700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but I guess yours had no fish, so I don't know
< 1371957714 709574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"George said it was absurd to have only four potatoes in an Irish stew, so we washed half-a-dozen or so more, and put them in without peeling" jesus christ
< 1371957744 277862 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the skin supposed to be super?
< 1371957746 774435 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something
< 1371957758 324552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you read _Pippi Longstocking_ hth
< 1371957771 302859 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1371957783 651643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The skin is poison.
< 1371957795 594338 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I think I did a bit too much burning in my brussel sprout frittata tonight
< 1371957796 831098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1371957799 683435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if it's turned green
< 1371957800 987175 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :could have used more fats
< 1371957813 179067 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you may or may not be helping hth
< 1371957814 202318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, the skin is poison if it is green.
< 1371957827 914564 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoes are some lovecraftian shit really
< 1371957834 655168 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing they're delicious
< 1371957840 593444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the green thing is not perfectly correlated with poisonousness either
< 1371957852 624312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is actually only a small poison though, and it isn't the green part that is poison.
< 1371957859 509109 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are basically pure starch
< 1371957862 130896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1371957903 388903 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, people were making jokes about bagpipes over a hundred years ago
< 1371957904 879963 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes u think
< 1371958020 329803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :think what
< 1371958088 769771 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1371958103 11943 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.
< 1371958134 605491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bagpipes, am i right
< 1371958216 640890 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things have an immunity from being ridiculed for a period of time
< 1371958233 533260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Famicom emulator using this input plugin format need to somehow convert the user's input into MIDI; how it does this is specific to the emulator being in use.
< 1371958281 988083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Famicom?
< 1371958284 179974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, NES?
< 1371958289 215070 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy
< 1371958294 83009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanes
< 1371958329 512653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they are similar to Famicom/NES.
< 1371958403 72725 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, the description of rowing. 100% accurate
< 1371958534 803515 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :no margin of error there?
< 1371958536 625750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend to write some Z-machine interpreter for Famicom! Possibly Z-machine version 1 to 3, at first. The only existing iNES mapper I know that will do it is MMC5 although I have designed a simpler mapper with two 74xx series ICs, but this simpler one isn't emulated. However, the thing I don't know is how to make division/modulo of 16-bits in 6502 code.
< 1371958540 126286 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know?
< 1371958586 897285 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :district attorneys, am I right? https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/18/nyregion/after-sexual-abuse-case-a-hasidic-accuser-is-shunned-then-indicted.html?_r=2&
< 1371958626 389635 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: none
< 1371958742 648684 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: nasty.
< 1371958779 621503 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone offers you money to keep something secret, you're actually extorting them
< 1371958789 709608 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :til
< 1371958822 953643 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people in remotely popular cases always do that shit.
< 1371958831 599728 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the zimmerman attorneys are playing similarly, apparently
< 1371958927 484736 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of non-hasidic-jew people I've talked to, even jews themselves, have had nothing but negative experiences with hasidic jews in NYC :/
< 1371958938 655891 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :jews are friendly, right? right?
< 1371958950 985864 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... not worth harping on, though...
< 1371958976 360326 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is that hasidists are like theologically conservative and wear hats?
< 1371958980 751724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is a weird, insular community that is quite hostile to the outside world
< 1371958996 495869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though they live in the middle of a fucking world city
< 1371959068 917971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nymag.com/realestate/neighborhoods/2010/65356/
< 1371959084 690173 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I am going to be feeling this sunburn tomorrow
< 1371959091 4355 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :(moreso than today)
< 1371959109 571456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember when i removed my hair and then walked in the sun for a few hours
< 1371959124 967583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Over at Search Engine Roundtable they have a lovely write-up about Chabad at Stanford’s “Google Glass Tefillin Stand.” Apparently students were given a chance to try on Google Glass and use it to put on Tefillin - complete with the blessings and Shema prayer.
< 1371959129 8988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'
< 1371959136 831563 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :should really get sunscreen, especially if I'm going to be going to places with almost no cloud cover, no trees, very windy, and close to shiny water
< 1371959163 24296 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scantily clad female riders
< 1371959165 917122 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen it transliterated as shema
< 1371959231 97099 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apparently it's common
< 1371959319 181757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you know it's legal for women to be topless in public in NYC
< 1371959340 468642 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: although I think SF wins that one
< 1371959347 721149 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 QUIT :Quit: .
< 1371959370 648980 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah but only because of a webcomic i read, so that hardly counts
< 1371959406 759051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i have also heard it is legal for women to be topless in public in SF
< 1371959416 906152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however full nudity (for men or women) is now illegal
< 1371959421 76678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside of certain special events
< 1371959437 121381 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... yes, that's been in the works for a while
< 1371959446 646318 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see that it actually passed
< 1371959471 345568 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a result of nudists not caring much about towel etiquette
< 1371959503 691152 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :...among other things
< 1371959514 768960 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also people who make generalizations
< 1371959523 895776 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the worst, generalizers
< 1371960502 507762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still bored :/
< 1371960517 320023 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a job!!
< 1371960523 908056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not my real father!
< 1371960557 154885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you learned rust yet
< 1371960566 285032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a well known thing in math like a "partial permutation", i.e. f :: X -> Maybe X such that if x ≠ y then  f x ≠ f y  unless they're both Nothing?
< 1371960578 693927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, that's a thing I could do I suppose
< 1371960685 351989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google partial permutation
< 1371960685 895006 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_permutation
< 1371960686 3781 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Partial permutation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
< 1371960689 66577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your thing like that
< 1371960691 469245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm playing with this idea of computation through character reëncoding and I think a reëncode operation is like one of these
< 1371960703 492838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1371960739 952997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some reëncodings aren't injective either but I'm setting that aside for now
< 1371960843 391916 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like the same, i think.
< 1371960854 657399 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with "the special hole symbol" instead of nothing.
< 1371960878 69949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+1F3C9 'SPECIAL HOLE SYMBOL'
< 1371960913 576322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ used to mark special holes on maps
< 1371961043 138614 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :special holes, eh?
< 1371961341 864938 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that book was amusing.
< 1371961610 655229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_AndrewD/frankchu_pinklady_davitydave.jpg san francisco
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< 1371965486 69349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much is made of the way the Internet provides global access to knowledge, but I should think that access to beauty is at least as significant
< 1371965508 169056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's really cool how most of the music ever written is now available anywhere for free
< 1371965527 459317 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must say i quite enjoy that.
< 1371965595 650735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand most of it has drums in it
< 1371965603 201096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can you truly call it beauty?
< 1371965620 980202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I listened to Set Fire to Flames today, some of that didn't have drums
< 1371965627 119695 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most paintings also have oil in them hth
< 1371965635 564194 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(am I doing a good shachaf impression)
< 1371965635 842968 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is condemned to eternal post-rock.
< 1371965639 5061 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrifying
< 1371965640 937922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a GY!BE side project of sorts
< 1371965652 98977 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't know that
< 1371965665 297493 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just, kind of assume all post-rock is made by individuals, with goatees or something probably
< 1371965668 519291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1371965670 43637 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they live in canada
< 1371965675 595031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right about that part
< 1371965681 699157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "hth" isn't a shachaf impression...
< 1371965688 579031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: It's an oerjan impression. hth
< 1371965689 866756 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... I don't know who does that then >_<
< 1371965692 479878 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry
< 1371965703 78785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I Data.Set.Set Fire
< 1371965705 708504 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hth is just an #esoteric thing.
< 1371965714 643510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen it crop up elsewhere
< 1371965739 209916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth and abbreviations 'p.' and 'v.' were both popular on SomethingAwful shitposting subforums years ago
< 1371965750 629239 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no :'(
< 1371965754 1472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laissez's Faire and YOSPOS
< 1371965754 149296 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i picked up "p." from a goon
< 1371965757 728382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures
< 1371965772 417563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard so many horror stories about laissez's faire
< 1371965779 726820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371965787 802883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about cobol "is that the place to be"
< 1371965800 999263 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i looked at cobol it seemed pretty dull.
< 1371965837 671072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of overlap in terms of personnel between GY!BE and {A,The,Thee} Silver Mount Zion {,Reveries,Memorial Orchestra,Memorial Orchestra & Tra-La-La Band,Memorial Orchestra and Tra-La-La Band with Choir}
< 1371965847 223701 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1371965848 362498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Also I'm not sure what point you were making?
< 1371965881 757568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some of the same people decided to play Yiddish folk music under the name Black Ox Orkestar
< 1371965891 321186 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :'hth' is a good marker of sincerity
< 1371965893 429352 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i'm drowning in stereotypes.
< 1371965946 488973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: or lack thereof?
< 1371965951 620162 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't say something acerbic and witty, say something sincere. is the usual strategy.
< 1371965997 24472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the newest GY!BE album is really good
< 1371966006 662786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't say something acerbic and witty, don't say anything at all
< 1371966036 434592 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the new album called
< 1371966045 77267 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it expressible in unicode)
< 1371966121 471681 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everything is expressible, after all. The Artist Formerly Known as Prince still doesn't have a character
< 1371966134 932940 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely not to do with trademark law
< 1371966261 767273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called  'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
< 1371966267 578866 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh.
< 1371966270 210971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :including that leading quote
< 1371966278 647345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's ascii, v. boring
< 1371966284 77758 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/yi.FrRlICOSy2dxEhRG_oQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/finance/2013-06-17/d08066ad-f8b7-4fb6-b276-b50b7cb4df55_PSYCH.jpg
< 1371966290 296488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like F♯ A♯ ∞
< 1371966304 891444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a quote!
< 1371966412 766501 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that programming language, coctothorpe
< 1371966451 399267 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only listened to a little bit of GY!BE in the past
< 1371966577 884269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...it also appears on bandmember Aidan Girt's related project 1-Speed Bike's debut album Droopy Butt Begone! (2000)"
< 1371966629 765121 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course they use fixies.
< 1371966648 959599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must object pedantically that not all 1-speed bikes are fixies
< 1371966748 455292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also TIL some bikes use  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub_gear instead of a deraileur
< 1371966752 261824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool looking
< 1371966801 155791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Speed1c.png
< 1371966819 634755 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, epicyclic gears
< 1371966893 303092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaft-driven_bicycle
< 1371966924 786875 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so behind on the world of my people.
< 1371966945 927990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that would be nice because it wouldn't try to eat my pants
< 1371966946 73617 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1371966983 764652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i want to buy a €2000 shaft driven dutch electric folding bicycle
< 1371967016 154923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hth
< 1371967021 33513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i do
< 1371967063 455903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok yes hth
< 1371967068 668528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. good
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< 1371973720 524951 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1371973727 659303 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1371973747 747618 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric
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< 1371973752 283088 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye.
< 1371973766 407172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2 slow"
< 1371973774 93595 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, why does middle mouseclick close my tabs
< 1371973786 527317 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why do I click the middle button
< 1371973789 271168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello from a TRAIN trains are the best   oh no I was even slowest
< 1371973807 648408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: #cslounge-trains is the channel for that
< 1371973844 396739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wi-Fi in this train is the worst though #zerothworldproblems
< 1371973863 898315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRAAAAAIN
< 1371973866 671396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :train whence whither
< 1371973884 392044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helsinki to Joensuu.
< 1371973944 264731 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet the wifi is better than the wifi on the Hexham to Newcastle train
< 1371973961 716950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This used to be like six hours but nowadays it's four and a half.
< 1371974003 59533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: "Joensuu" can be translated "Joe's mouth".
< 1371974012 812238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: here in america they haven't invented trains yet but there are buses
< 1371974016 755540 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes they have wifi
< 1371974039 555749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though really it's "river's mouth".)
< 1371974049 449727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the river called Joe?
< 1371974055 68301 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man. pedestrian trains. that's some sci-fi shit.
< 1371974115 540868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey you could take the 4train here so san francisco
< 1371974174 669397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, the river is called "Pielisjoki".
< 1371974220 28818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I missed my N000th birthday. :-(
< 1371974230 164301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Pielinen is the related lake.)
< 1371974233 661030 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took the train past salem once but that's about it.
< 1371974243 192025 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Pielinen mean Pasty
< 1371974245 973417 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Pastry
< 1371974277 270594 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what radix?
< 1371974281 403106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Not as far as I know.
< 1371974287 760409 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: 10
< 1371974296 376112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==Bike
< 1371974307 342114 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :N?
< 1371974348 694866 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no
< 1371974357 866422 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it sounds like "Pie lining"
< 1371974366 38746 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote mezzoforte
< 1371974369 132754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do people use flexible number systems where you can use digits larger than the base?
< 1371974370 900655 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :417)  Non sequitur is my forte   On-topic discussion is my piano   Bowls of sugary breakfast cereal is my mezzoforte   Full fat milk is my pianissimo   On which note, I'm hungry
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< 1371974374 649703 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb
< 1371974401 185837 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that would just mean making the base larger
< 1371974505 999752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: No, it wouldn't.
< 1371974513 749326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs?
< 1371974544 499759 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hm. I am puzzled
< 1371974548 948998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: E.g. A0 in flexible base-ten would be 10*10.
< 1371974565 303497 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
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< 1371974590 486178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That sounds awful. :-(
< 1371974590 539239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have multiple encodings of same number, of cvoursr.
< 1371974602 835690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of cvoursr you would.
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< 1371974650 368978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to be fast on a touchscreen keyboard.
< 1371974677 139874 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :So
< 1371974686 516709 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :B00 = 11 * 10 * 10?
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< 1371974705 442457 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1371974711 173122 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host
< 1371974734 759636 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about A00B
< 1371974741 141053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the Finnish lake wiki does not know the etymology of the name "Pielinen".
< 1371974780 112013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: 10*10^3 + 11.
< 1371974825 2979 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1371974883 900138 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :So AA = 110 = B0
< 1371974900 321682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just sum_i x_i * 10^i but with (some) x_i >= 10.
< 1371974945 709138 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back
< 1371975025 78166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flexible base-ten? Is that something like what dc does?
< 1371975068 396969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall what dc does, but maybe it isd.
< 1371975104 309810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless of what the input base is in dc, you can always use 0 to 9 and A to F as digits, and it will do like that.
< 1371975190 422198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently so.
< 1371975293 557796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo AA B0 110 f | dc
< 1371975295 192957 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :110 \ 110 \ 110
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< 1371989734 308594 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i learn to ride a bicycle [in: re: bike talk]
< 1371989780 961276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what........youdon'tknowhowtorideabicycle.......
< 1371989785 878181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i forgot how to press space
< 1371989822 239632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you didn't
< 1371989825 117555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i knew at one point
< 1371989828 486021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only barely
< 1371989847 709553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i forgot to do it for about three words
< 1371989854 245805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i liked the effect so i finished the sentence
< 1371989856 455323 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should learn unicycling instead
< 1371989890 974403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, you should learn to ride a bicycle.
< 1371989900 195294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first you should learn how to ride a bicycle, if you don't know.
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< 1371993809 468716 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin 
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< 1371996456 115923 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg
< 1371996486 609181 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: welcome back!
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< 1371996664 506360 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty
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< 1372011710 514134 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin its kinda boring
< 1372012545 444384 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't figure out how to make a not gate in this cellular automaton
< 1372012659 30386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, you should
< 1372012685 457375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: before or after the LSD
< 1372012687 895855 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you don't know how to bike??
< 1372012690 404066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or simultaneously
< 1372012692 573550 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta order my kmc advices
< 1372012698 774070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: well i actually don't know if i do or not...
< 1372012707 176479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i'm pretty sure i "sort of" could at one point?
< 1372012707 842353 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrifying.
< 1372012732 87108 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND and OR are pretty easy
< 1372012777 931850 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a glider gun that turns off when struck?
< 1372012829 376683 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :{AND, OR} isn't functionally complete, yeah
< 1372012831 756038 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which CA FreeFull 
< 1372012961 534732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: should I pester sites that submit login credentials over HTTPS but serve the login form over plain HTTP?
< 1372012969 388611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is this one of those things where everyone does it and you'll never get them to change
< 1372013051 897805 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: JvN29/Nobili32/Hutton32
< 1372013061 949056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what
< 1372013070 197103 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops
< 1372013072 198911 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: ^
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< 1372014425 705895 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Any help
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< 1372014602 934629 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know this CA
< 1372014695 923172 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm messing around with it right now
< 1372014704 491116 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cute
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< 1372014712 851944 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a very catchy name
< 1372014740 18878 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit, von neumann's, huh
< 1372014832 58663 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: how would a not gate even work
< 1372014870 662389 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output a bunch of green arrows all the time unless it receives a blue arrow? (pro technical terms)
< 1372014877 173006 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean receives a green arrow
< 1372014898 847488 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean "excited ordinary transmission state"
< 1372014912 548910 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make sense to me
< 1372014912 999649 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: That'd be a true inverter
< 1372014918 207339 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although alternatives are welcome too
< 1372014962 117651 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND and OR are very easy
< 1372014974 107624 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR is just multiple wires leading into the same spot
< 1372014983 276782 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND is the same, but that spot has a green thing there
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< 1372015081 188276 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling it's more complicated than it seems
< 1372015100 446188 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A switch should be easy enough though
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< 1372015236 62573 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, a switch is very easy
< 1372015289 962643 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess you could make an inverter if you figure out how to grab the leading edge of a continuous current
< 1372015324 505432 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd have a limit on how often it could be toggled though
< 1372015428 42888 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm bad at this
< 1372015456 980769 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i managed to create a continuous stream of green thingies! i guess that's something
< 1372015496 390160 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: It's not that easy if you don't have a convienient reference
< 1372015545 792790 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to make a switch
< 1372015567 654310 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so there was a very easy way to do what i just did. oops
< 1372015654 301498 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there is
< 1372015729 217397 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Try making a switch
< 1372015750 342476 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh ca
< 1372015867 757357 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how you'd go about getting the leading edge of a signal
< 1372015896 7844 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JvN29/Nobili32/Hutton32 is this in the naming scheme of some program?
< 1372015912 421438 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it not golly's?
< 1372015918 627834 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes everybody working with CAs uses golly.

< 1372015943 308334 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golly.sourceforge.net/Help/Algorithms/JvN.html
< 1372015998 12423 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, golly doesn't do all CAs
< 1372016004 993811 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I am using golly right now
< 1372016024 150733 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm i found a way to disable the stream
< 1372016030 12980 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how to turn it on again...
< 1372016072 58792 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't done much with golly
< 1372016084 434535 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough to know that it's really primitive
< 1372016131 203881 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I bet you only messed around with one rule
< 1372016144 667670 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah pretty much
< 1372016147 329383 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/I7neyO2.png
< 1372016149 214176 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ^
< 1372016154 979985 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we implemented the thing i mentioned the other day in golly
< 1372016158 338829 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i vaguely on the right track?
< 1372016170 827932 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we usually use mathematica for experimentation, it's at least slightly more usable
< 1372016216 348452 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/experimentation/playing around/
< 1372016273 500564 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know how to use the red arrows
< 1372016286 428154 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sending signals to them makes them... disappear...
< 1372016357 218809 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Oh, the cyan diamond becomes an and gate if it has more than one input
< 1372016363 880747 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1372016370 582763 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean golly doesn't even compute preimages
< 1372016372 13936 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck
< 1372016376 15665 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: What I did was use red arrows
< 1372016385 142523 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or check invertibility
< 1372016391 102589 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think i see what you mean
< 1372016435 741776 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i don't
< 1372016481 768160 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't open those :(
< 1372016494 392080 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The address wasn't understood"
< 1372016526 448357 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rle's i mean
< 1372016578 321311 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 29 states? that sounds way too complicated to work with
< 1372016585 584908 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it?
< 1372016611 663108 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it makes a lot of sense
< 1372016644 754809 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are some of the states like tails of moving particles or something like that
< 1372016661 995491 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you have "wires" that you send signals over, encoding which symbol to make at the end of the wire in binary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VonNeumann_CA_demo.gif
< 1372016766 988974 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've seen a constructor arm draw and undraw something in an example in maybe cellebration, perhaps it was this rule
< 1372016780 698383 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1372016847 285101 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: i got it!!
< 1372016860 223042 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1372017110 613647 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How often do normal people do laundry?
< 1372017149 434355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :varies, probably about once a week
< 1372017154 570395 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1372017171 21446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's among people i know anyway, which ≠ "normal people"
< 1372017172 34953 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been doing it once a week, it's kind of frustrating having a weekly chore like that though
< 1372017178 118080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1372017182 938687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can buy more clothes and do laundry less often
< 1372017206 631904 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy more clothes and never do laundry
< 1372017407 551894 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I want to bring dead norns back to life, I should probably work on that rather than reading a book (note: norns are virtual creatures, not real. So there, I'm not tricking anyone)
< 1372017457 711697 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372017475 130403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's a book about how to bring dead norns back to life
< 1372017525 52911 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A book on reverse engineering would probably help... or ... some way of understanding undocumented binary data files
< 1372017562 735767 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My current plans are to try to get a copy of a norn, alive, and then kill it, and compare with some sort of hex editor comparison thing
< 1372017569 559460 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that program exists, I've used it before
< 1372017571 575056 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Years ago
< 1372017617 437114 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if dead norns are free()d. tragic imo
< 1372017772 206577 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not looking in memory, but to export
< 1372017794 118664 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which saves norns on disk. Don't think it's possible with the normal UI to export a dead norn, but a bit of CAOS should do the trick
< 1372017816 530666 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it might not, and even if it does, what if a bunch of critical data is deleted...
< 1372018129 546514 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a lot of rain coming
< 1372018142 476759 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the particular region of the world I am living in
< 1372018145 506858 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently
< 1372018425 970540 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372019094 232552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it depends on how much you care hth
< 1372019099 667068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1372019130 815036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https
< 1372019143 517915 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you do laundry when you need your clothes cleaned, hth
< 1372019156 448659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably make some difference sometimes but probably the people you talk to won't care on average.
< 1372019166 699990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about
< 1372019172 302830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf.......................
< 1372019188 596938 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :he seems to be talking about that https thing you mentioned ages ago
< 1372019190 871615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh HTTPS login forms?
< 1372019191 163575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1372019204 735693 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about https login forms?
< 1372019224 255265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:42 <+kmc> shachaf: should I pester sites that submit login credentials over HTTPS but serve the login form over plain HTTP?
< 1372019269 45979 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1372019290 295840 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l/last pester
< 1372019293 151000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1372019296 745355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that was at 19:42 hth
< 1372019343 238268 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*20:42
< 1372019353 272222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes.
< 1372019478 507425 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EV certificates are fun
< 1372019541 196025 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not have registrars be the ones to sign certificates?
< 1372019596 805905 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to make sense, it's the registrar who you buy foo.com from, the registrar should be the one to prove you bought foo.com
< 1372019614 227181 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know how that would work with independently operated subdomains though
< 1372019626 592085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is OK for low security sites to say that active attacks are outside the threat model
< 1372019635 893424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think people underestimate how easy active attacks are
< 1372019643 795893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or really any attack where they haven't seen it done
< 1372019696 614580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you can find a lot of interesting stuff by sitting in cafés in SF and running an open wifi access point
< 1372019818 532756 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how to run an active attack, perhaps it would be useful to learn a bit more about that stuff
< 1372020143 464668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too fucking hot here (Boston)
< 1372020177 429061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :move to sf hth
< 1372020178 365695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to hit 97°F / 36°C tomorrow
< 1372020179 326942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on
< 1372020184 750095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: working on it
< 1372020191 390529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuube arrives tomorrow
< 1372020217 787647 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a cube
< 1372020218 132705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's cu+be
< 1372020222 748803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI FUCK YOU BIKE??? :(
< 1372020228 550893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3
< 1372020230 763913 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott
< 1372020238 888228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott, b/c i'm from hell
< 1372020266 386575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving cube
< 1372020273 753422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should warn elliott about the perils of being so rude.
< 1372020283 168202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they park a big box in my driveway, I fill it with all my stuff, then they pick it up and haul it to SF
< 1372020291 521038 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh one of those cubes
< 1372020310 241585 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what are those perils, exactly?
< 1372020348 174357 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nobody knows where the cube came from or who owns it. for years we have moved like this. we dare not watch the cube. we tell ourselves stories about how it must get moved but the truth is we don't want to know. cube
< 1372020350 31047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: for example people might not enjoy being around you
< 1372020358 674959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be kicked out of the channel and/or country
< 1372020376 245304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: seems accurate
< 1372020454 131730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the real question is what kind of cube would want to go to san francisco amirite
< 1372020459 861892 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cube is convenient if you only have weekends available
< 1372020465 448099 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh my stuff is all still in NY
< 1372020471 286568 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I haven't made plans to bring it over here yet
< 1372020488 573617 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it costs money
< 1372020500 791022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fair amount of my stuff is still in NY even though I left NY three years ago
< 1372020504 950348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also costs your soul. the secret bargain of the cube
< 1372020509 265674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most notably a queen size bed + mattress
< 1372020514 85263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably full of bedbugs by now :'(
< 1372020517 623342 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more of a rectangular prism
< 1372020528 775667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what people tell themselves yes
< 1372020531 661965 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Gracenotes is here now
< 1372020533 369846 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :bedbugs die after 3-9months without people around
< 1372020538 19580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372020542 980931 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I think
< 1372020544 188269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're being stored in an apt not cold storage
< 1372020550 461806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: oh good
< 1372020551 129755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think........ i'm not sure tbh
< 1372020553 502515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just has dead beadbugs then
< 1372020555 118149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend of a friend of a friend has them
< 1372020577 152994 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they sleep in it to feed the bed bugs
< 1372020583 862222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly
< 1372020610 73363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it will probably cost less to buy a new bed than to ship one across the country
< 1372020611 676364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aptly cold
< 1372020688 519403 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't you simply bring the bed when you moved out of wherever you lived it?
< 1372020702 490206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't fit in the cube
< 1372020706 889648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beds aren't really cube-y, see
< 1372020718 853404 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it only accepts cube-shaped objects?
< 1372020727 930896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. there are Rules, olsner
< 1372020749 334590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are stories of those who put non-cube-shaped objects in the cube but nobody has ever met somebody who has done so
< 1372020765 337351 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :They tried and failed?
< 1372020793 869371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1372020806 424609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that move was not by cuuuuuuuuuube it was by TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN
< 1372020813 569604 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : which is probably full of bedbugs by now :'(
< 1372020820 194043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no the cube ate them, RIP
< 1372020825 741893 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why... would bedbugs colonise an empty matress
< 1372020833 327625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :spite
< 1372020835 672977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372020837 60667 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very long game they're playing
< 1372020848 274090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a bedbug at mcdonald's once
< 1372020881 688657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad times
< 1372020945 551013 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :alive or dead? I think they're supposed to kill them before making burgers out of them
< 1372020949 217769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1372020954 725283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alive, crawling on the furniture
< 1372020965 309473 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1372020969 353211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a radiohead lyric but i don't think it is
< 1372021009 710089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bedbugs don't transmit HIV or other bloodborne diseases
< 1372021015 360789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :last i saw, nobody is quite sure why
< 1372021021 144369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mosiquitos don't transmit HIV either
< 1372021022 429007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. fortunate
< 1372021061 516768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :alive and crawling on the furniture describes me looking for the snooze button
< 1372021077 519178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1372021088 329870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a difference in dimension between me and a bed bug though
< 1372021104 513672 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bedbugs are intruders from the seventh dimension
< 1372021349 494625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1372021358 777943 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, once I slept on my bed and got bite-looking marks, but I think it was just skin irritation
< 1372021366 254736 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was like a week ago
< 1372021367 905206 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they are actually about the size of elephants, it's just that only the very tips of their snout-tips protrude into our little 3d subspace
< 1372021381 620596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bedbug bites are pretty distinctive
< 1372021387 546692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :raised itchy red bumps, usually in groups
< 1372021409 898937 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, these were not really raised in the same way mosquito marks are. er.. probably.
< 1372021410 798454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i find little beatles in my bed but they aren't bedbugs
< 1372021423 262419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're probably just foraging for delicious dead skin flakes
< 1372021426 156904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they play music
< 1372021428 146566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372021435 206470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have a beat at least
< 1372021436 28001 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372021438 193863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372021445 494422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow tell them to rename themselves
< 1372021453 555836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372021456 751312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have misspelled a word :(
< 1372021466 970618 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit more discriminatory about the dead skin flakes I eat
< 1372021474 549794 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :than a beetle
< 1372021482 94551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's on your permanent record hth
< 1372021483 788542 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a finer palate imo
< 1372021511 74769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes also plays the piano "unlike kmc's bedbeatles"
< 1372021519 467505 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I play the piano
< 1372021522 960562 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a beat
< 1372021537 398304 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :in summary I am a lot better than a beetle/beatle
< 1372021581 379040 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Facebook have mixed content?
< 1372021672 285771 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aare you a white nationalist
< 1372021706 883729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool
< 1372021921 65606 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck
< 1372021924 942010 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i sgeo...
< 1372021948 762987 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, http content is displayed despite using https
< 1372021960 42820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should have been obvious as to being what I meant
< 1372021976 605643 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely, yes
< 1372022020 685768 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't listening
< 1372022141 196625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad
< 1372022143 90963 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.  "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.  "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
< 1372022384 510462 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372022917 735282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372022941 500255 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 QUIT :Quit: katla has no reason
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< 1372023520 641364 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tomorrow afternoon, I start doing all the things I have meant to do for a while
< 1372023527 318749 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Learn Agda
< 1372023536 497892 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Write tutorial for the tables library
< 1372023551 560594 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1372023555 457380 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any more
< 1372023556 372666 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it like, performing actions
< 1372023556 830325 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait
< 1372023562 17040 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) think of more things to do
< 1372023572 331986 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4) Spraypaint these toy guns gold
< 1372023601 597082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's (4) for
< 1372023612 352629 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're talking
< 1372023619 267278 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Homestuck cosplay, I am afraid
< 1372023635 857470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have orange tips and are you spraypainting those too
< 1372023648 653716 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure what the relevant law is in this country
< 1372023664 548087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe find out
< 1372023668 912407 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe because they are obviously not real guns and I am not going to be using them in a threatening manner I should be safef
< 1372023673 745156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you get shot by the po-lice
< 1372023677 747793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, he says
< 1372023690 618354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is that based on a specific reading of the law or on 'common sense'
< 1372023709 247183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, the law does not follow 'common sense'
< 1372023755 483964 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, a specific reading of a website once
< 1372023764 947976 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very reliable
< 1372023787 11008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372023825 671502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway Happy Don't Get Shot By The Police While Cosplaying Homestuck Day
< 1372023838 206632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best day
< 1372023842 721773 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you
< 1372023928 303670 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5) organize picnic
< 1372023966 656785 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6) fix new graphics card driver problems, unrelated to the Chinese Graphics Card problem
< 1372024054 690240 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :7) identify monads which do not have an applicative instance, or applicatives which do not have a functor instance, or monads which don't have a functor instance on Hackage, and fix them
< 1372024099 18993 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you follow that nice long list with something useful like 7
< 1372024116 405062 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, for what it's worth, I've already started 7
< 1372024126 960701 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my
< 1372024140 326169 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8) figure out a kind of beer I like other than Budweiser
< 1372024166 258178 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :9) attend picnic that I have organized
< 1372024200 812876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean the american Budweiser?
< 1372024228 195201 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the Budweiser that I can and have bought in the UK
< 1372024282 289659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like both the US and the German beer can be purchased in the UK:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budweiser
< 1372024293 377201 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1372024300 573939 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at the logos I suspect it is the US one
< 1372024301 994778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er German / Czech
< 1372024375 183431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is such a boring beer
< 1372024391 563581 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a very good beer drinker
< 1372024408 523092 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most beers I can only drink a pint and a half before I sort of slow right down with the drinking
< 1372024423 265714 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US Budweiser I can keep going past three pints
< 1372024477 867287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372024501 694653 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer wine, but wine goes straight to my head and then I fall over
< 1372024514 807779 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not like the taste of stronger alcohol at all
< 1372024546 343596 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or cider, for that matter, but that is because I don't really like the taste of apple juice
< 1372024573 716031 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10) find the charger for my phone
< 1372024621 677994 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :11) figure out what one is actually supposed to do when in a relationship
< 1372024665 369880 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12) learn how to use one or more of pipes/conduit etc
< 1372024685 453724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :13) fix that C program I wrote ages ago that never actually worked but should interpret SK calculus
< 1372024768 951704 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :14) watch Supernatural
< 1372024782 228093 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that should do for now
< 1372024822 858702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never drinken beer
< 1372024824 531139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION baby irl

< 1372024839 666200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't beer carbonated
< 1372024857 410502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean has those carbon dioxide bubbles i don't care how they got in there!!
< 1372024867 830434 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that sense, yes it can be
< 1372024868 286596 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, isn't it your 18th in about two months?
< 1372024888 333055 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372024913 908090 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recommend beer except for social reasons, it isn't actually that nice
< 1372024936 194252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: which drugz would you recommend
< 1372024943 751207 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for social reasons" == to get drunk?
< 1372024958 851013 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get drunk /in society/ see
< 1372024989 277001 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, Bike knows what's what
< 1372025001 772829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think beer is tasty
< 1372025002 134971 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, paracetamol is good for headaches!
< 1372025010 433704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes in a lot of different kinds
< 1372025014 276629 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I here ibuprofen is good too
< 1372025017 190443 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hear
< 1372025019 1883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paracetamol is pretty dangerous
< 1372025045 145270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be interested in beer except for the drunkenness part
< 1372025049 612258 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, my house is full of paracetamol
< 1372025051 942388 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, try shandy
< 1372025061 556877 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not like you just have a beer and instantly start dancing on tables.
< 1372025071 553779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think you'll find that is exactly how it works
< 1372025078 317304 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o!!!
< 1372025089 60344 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I dance on tables before beer
< 1372025093 848239 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I doing something wrong?
< 1372025094 566225 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, me too.
< 1372025096 945906 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying.
< 1372025101 326688 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost never dance on tables
< 1372025103 172973 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid scrabble doesn't accept 'init', fuck you scrabble
< 1372025118 568885 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's spelled innit, innit
< 1372025124 77584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uh, you can accept whatever words you like, hth
< 1372025130 467298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> init "init"
< 1372025131 647616 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "ini"
< 1372025211 16757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read that a lot of the effects of alcohol intoxication turn out to be culture-bound
< 1372025221 302578 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 QUIT :Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.
< 1372025252 124867 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some university here secretly replaced all the beer with alcohol free beer, everyone got pretendshitfaced anyway
< 1372025261 404201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1372025269 869419 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychology: the troll science
< 1372025272 735566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1372025279 597310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :free beer as in free lunch, not as in alcohol free beer
< 1372025283 681595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it provides a social context where it's somewhat more ok to make a fool of yourself
< 1372025288 484499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people take advantage of that
< 1372025297 201837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alcohol_use_disorders_world_map_-_DALY_-_WHO2004.svg wow
< 1372025300 899846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol: the #esoteric of life
< 1372025309 305574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait maybe that's just me
< 1372025329 487369 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: the alcohol of death
< 1372025339 589124 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh what's that country above ukraine
< 1372025343 304014 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blanking here
< 1372025347 864651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :belarus?
< 1372025349 319569 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the hell is ukraine?
< 1372025365 508033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about belarus
< 1372025366 203033 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah belarus.
< 1372025367 840283 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, russia?
< 1372025370 60926 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: south of belarus
< 1372025403 167450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend in Minsk, who has a friend in Pinsk, whose friend in Omsk has friend in Tomsk with friend in Akmolinsk
< 1372025404 884117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372025441 454668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan we missed you
< 1372025458 616318 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, did serbia and montenegro use to be one country called "Serbia and Montenegro"?
< 1372025469 282588 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.
< 1372025474 184577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the small bright red country next to ukraine is hungary I guess
< 1372025490 139664 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so speaking of drugz
< 1372025492 787268 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKqV_ybCS-I this is great
< 1372025495 343032 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone should see it
< 1372025513 245544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how "so speaking of drugz" works as a transition regardless of whether drugz were in fact being spoken of previously
< 1372025519 838090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was tho
< 1372025524 755034 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm good at segue
< 1372025534 556671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but the conversation had kind of moved on from drugz
< 1372025537 363537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the impact was still there
< 1372025542 931294 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like hell that's gonna stop me
< 1372025555 845386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i saw this video like ten years ago
< 1372025562 564607 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1372025580 9090 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372025606 26066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg
< 1372025633 10256 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: was it good then too
< 1372025650 733797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like meth has a pretty good ratio between self-harm and other-harm
< 1372025657 521472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With four NAND gates (a single IC, if you aren't counting the PRG ROM, PRG RAM, and CHR ROM/RAM), you can add 8K PRG RAM (with the added ability to write to two variables at once if wanted), an extra 32K PRG ROM bank (which cannot be accessed during rendering, therefore you might store level data which is loaded into RAM), and increase the number of possible tiles from 256 to 320.
< 1372025705 447565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  the trouble with sushi is that it's often made of dead fish
< 1372025709 145654 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1060)  the trouble with sushi is that it's often made of dead fish
< 1372025776 482451 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would also recommend kyle for more 'drugz videos'
< 1372025833 325171 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't sushi rice and vinegar
< 1372025877 125281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: when you move to sf kmc can be your dealer too
< 1372025877 259473 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't I be in bed
< 1372025878 55181 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sushi refers to the rice
< 1372025924 873964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a dream where my computer was stolen
< 1372025927 496443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i had no backups
< 1372025928 941901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was sad
< 1372025934 597150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hint i actually do have no backups)
< 1372025967 129112 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no-one has backups
< 1372026011 978536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't have backups :(
< 1372026041 558583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes well my files are more important than your files so it's a bigger deal
< 1372026045 22262 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5gh77AD9ZU
< 1372026051 105555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have $50 of unused tarsnap credit
< 1372026064 597171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about 0.5MB of files that i would really be sad if i lost
< 1372026064 924412 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372026068 852503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so :'(
< 1372026079 810573 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is tarsnap a sex thing
< 1372026093 393322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what isn't
< 1372026139 578730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the 0.5 mbs of files
< 1372026179 239911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugz
< 1372026214 257456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyberdrugz
< 1372026253 595403 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwchohlMjI i'm just going to watch kyle all day now
< 1372026261 197838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have backups but not off-site
< 1372026265 291776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they're all horribly organized
< 1372026282 789814 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
< 1372026289 782088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you going to put your backups in your cube
< 1372026299 321285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all like  backup-20130126/backup2/home/keegan/backup/backup-20120708/home/keegan/backup/backup-20110916/
< 1372026304 381582 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1372026317 569764 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just dump my home folder everywhere
< 1372026321 651045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except also that in tarballs so it's hard to search
< 1372026333 24691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are they all like, on the same disk...
< 1372026336 803272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kind of surprised there isn't a more standard solution for making a tarball with random access
< 1372026339 773300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes
< 1372026348 768722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :')
< 1372026348 875107 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursive backups
< 1372026350 976294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but like
< 1372026355 777533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: on the disk that you're actually backing up from
< 1372026356 84953 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: after enough nesting your backups go to a parallel dimension
< 1372026361 141138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372026363 354193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good
< 1372026375 827896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole pile is synced to several drives
< 1372026389 971510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i for one keep all my horse porn on RAID
< 1372026409 134383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i have any horse porn
< 1372026420 488897 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :want me to hook you up
< 1372026425 914775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thank you
< 1372026441 697823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i become a member of "hackerdojo"............................
< 1372026444 107139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't think, but you're not sure
< 1372026453 569165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: stupid name, might be cool tho?
< 1372026459 428970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally i can learn to be a ninja
< 1372026501 60126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it full of startup douchebags
< 1372026524 141065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1372026532 265384 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :teaching martial arts to startup douchebags might be lucrative
< 1372026533 849346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that better or worse than noisebridge's complement of white supremicists and homeless crackheads
< 1372026542 352418 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :charge them approximately a billion per session
< 1372026606 358716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you should help them invent their own new 'disruptive' form of martial arts
< 1372026614 544994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much better because it's designed by programmers and YC alumni
< 1372026623 204550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then film them as they hurt themselves in hilarious ways
< 1372026649 38108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also you should get a job and move to the city
< 1372026654 123223 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yes.
< 1372026663 626241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what job/city
< 1372026670 536606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job / good city
< 1372026676 27133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :san fran cisco
< 1372026700 99533 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe boxing
< 1372026709 892424 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boxers are damn good
< 1372026714 987351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good city
< 1372026734 317012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what job
< 1372026829 231270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i get a job and move to the city
< 1372026841 709644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes
< 1372026870 621616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any cities in england
< 1372026877 505419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know scotland has some
< 1372026885 612998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could move to scotland
< 1372026886 295770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed the city is SF
< 1372026890 110431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372026893 767775 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they call them towns in england
< 1372026894 960599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works too
< 1372026896 157302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll move to scotland if they declare independence
< 1372026896 963987 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mega City Two
< 1372027149 28328 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372027188 81099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the City of London
< 1372027309 829342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could never live in london i think
< 1372027389 675025 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y not
< 1372027398 737362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well have you seen london
< 1372027407 989980 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in period dramas.
< 1372027677 218477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the City is the tiny financial district right?
< 1372027683 267628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are usually not a great place to actually live
< 1372027708 853252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i meant london in general
< 1372027713 996046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah the city is like.. a mile or something
< 1372027894 540864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you might be interested in http://www.pvk.ca/Blog/2013/06/23/bitsets-match-regular-expressions/
< 1372027904 605162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it relates to that approximate matching "agrep" stuff y'all were talking about
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< 1372028215 174790 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike was throwing that at me the other day actually O_O   it was really tricky to understand
< 1372028234 186343 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a long post, okay, I'll try to understand it again
< 1372028292 297400 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has annotated assembly, just as god intended
< 1372028321 657625 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, anyway, the NSA is no longer a threat http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/06/us_offensive_cy.html#c1538650
< 1372028352 229364 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSA would have their work cut out for them trying to logic bomb a hardened gentoo or even fedora workstation running grsec and selinux policy, surrounded by a locked down openbsd network firewall and router. 
< 1372028391 806020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smokes a joint rolled from pages of Neuromancer*
< 1372028420 361697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: whoa this looks cool
< 1372028445 438868 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agrep is pretty cool
< 1372028467 988495 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when he tweeted that thing i was inspired enough to write a shitty implementation of bitap on fixed strings with no errors
< 1372028514 799273 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then fail to explain it to fiora or anybody
< 1372028516 863792 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so here we are.
< 1372028579 73646 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is more generally loathed, Cold Fusion or PHP?
< 1372028595 314140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a very sad question
< 1372028599 875404 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i order you to cease considering it
< 1372028612 704105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at bitap instead
< 1372028954 51930 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhh.  the state machine thing makes so much more sense
< 1372028972 808506 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically you check all letters of the input for "A" in the case of "ABAD"
< 1372028985 401978 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you AND with "is each letter B", shifted by 1
< 1372028992 275954 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you and with "is each letter A", shifted by 1
< 1372028995 218196 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is so cool
< 1372029000 557892 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, shifted by 2
< 1372029103 179589 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :told you.
< 1372029121 229581 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i'm stuck on these comments though
< 1372029128 46253 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So the US military develops a set of weapons which are almost useless against both it's official enemies ( a bunch of terrorists living in medieval conditions in Afghanistan) and it's unofficial enemies (China) - but which it is itself uniquely vulnerable to. Isn't this a little like Superman developing a kryptonite bomb?"
< 1372029144 792950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1372029178 142618 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I find OBSD to be far less complex and easier to master than windows or apple products.
< 1372029192 276405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously a typical mind
< 1372029240 546899 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pkhuong's code just defines the intrinsics right there. man
< 1372029241 179356 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :told me...?
< 1372029257 396161 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read the whole graph manipulation section, that seems a little scary
< 1372029274 535478 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :told you it was so cool.
< 1372029759 856070 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, which weapons are these specifically
< 1372029780 329194 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyberweapons
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< 1372029945 130493 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh... how are the chinese not vulnerable to cyberwarfare
< 1372030066 68604 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea. the article that's a comment on is about US cyberwarfare against china.
< 1372030071 540064 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible, just slightly, that the comment is dumb
< 1372030090 342599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the commenter thinks that china is so much better at cyberwarfare than the US
< 1372030093 850394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is maybe true
< 1372030111 440355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but infosec is so absurdly biased towards attackers right now that third-rate attacks can go through first-rate defense
< 1372030138 24130 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines cyberwarfare WWI, shudders

< 1372030154 757098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION emails Bike a ZIP file of chlorine gas

< 1372030162 318236 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nooooo
< 1372030227 62656 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your antivirus won't help you
< 1372030249 264535 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1372030251 457555 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this summer....
< 1372030490 443651 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=6344 old timey flamewars are so great
< 1372030648 383775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb functor is a superclass of applicative already so you don't need to check functor hth
< 1372030648 580766 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1372030740 541919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb might want to check for alternative vs. monadplus, though.
< 1372030740 648544 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1372031501 377600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good
< 1372031698 724901 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372031736 753685 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372031835 570044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372031841 428089 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome katla
< 1372031844 69546 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​05k05atl13a: Welco05me t06o th07e in08ternational hub for eso04teric programming lang03uage des05ign and deploymen03t! 04For12 more03 infor14mation,09 check out 04our wiki: http://esola14ngs.o09r06g/wik03i/Ma13in_P05age. (Fo03r th12e 11other kin04d of esoterica, try 10#esoteric 10on irc.da08l.ne05t11.)
< 1372031850 251519 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372031860 88031 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im depressed
< 1372031873 80796 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla, did the rainbow welcome cheer you up
< 1372031881 728014 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372032102 59286 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you depressed?
< 1372032155 663421 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my life is bad
< 1372032164 817816 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no friends
< 1372032434 795172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you live?
< 1372032443 605118 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uk
< 1372032448 347266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinds of things are you interested in
< 1372032451 322989 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: :(
< 1372032458 31684 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: clinically, or just sad?
< 1372032466 251183 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clinically
< 1372032472 528240 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, that sucks
< 1372032487 507060 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont know about interests
< 1372032498 635449 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that i need to pick up some
< 1372032505 445504 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure which
< 1372032529 162797 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you think of anything you enjoy doing?
< 1372032628 430350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were talking about haskell and theory of computation before, right?
< 1372032676 284244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few Haskell meetup groups in the UK
< 1372032688 768766 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i used to be into programing languages but not really a nymore
< 1372032698 564344 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something anhedonia
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< 1372033322 607669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play mahjong?
< 1372033327 618454 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372033431 213757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play chess?
< 1372033461 201467 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badly
< 1372033488 973197 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clinical depression is t3h suck.
< 1372033559 858705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :t3h
< 1372033579 731962 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no now you said it too...
< 1372033583 44079 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. 73|-|.
< 1372033590 526833 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1372033623 44131 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :los soque
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< 1372035043 817457 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i thought you guys would cure me
< 1372035214 716013 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fresh out of panacea, srry
< 1372035246 513381 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry! I guess I was kind of in that trap a year or two ago (though I still kind of am) of "oh gosh I need to find non-programming hobbies and friends and communities and things"
< 1372035253 26759 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure I have a magic answer
< 1372035338 499598 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora how did it go?
< 1372035364 729640 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you makeprogress
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< 1372035521 452494 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to put it into words... I kind of went and dived into non-sciencey things (since I was already a hopeless wikipedia-absorbing science doof), especially things I could socialize with others about (even like, online)

< 1372035554 287002 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for me I went and read homestuck and got involved with that, I played more games of the sort with fandoms I could bond with others about (Persona, Tales, etc)
< 1372035596 905150 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and generally like trying to aim my attention at everything other than programming to counter way too many years of academia
< 1372035599 522830 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good
< 1372035652 869872 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and take the chance (10 years late) to be a bit more, well, girly about things, I guess
< 1372035667 3803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe i should try that
< 1372035669 598147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have a desire for non-programming hobbies, so much as more non-programmer friends
< 1372035678 131836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly these are related though
< 1372035699 243077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my girlfriend knows a lot about plants & birds & mushrooms and that sort of thing, and I've really enjoyed learning about that
< 1372035703 202270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having more excuses to go outside
< 1372035715 667860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Does she know what birds are?
< 1372035723 18163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a very narrow focus growing up and now it's neat to learn some of the things I'd been ignoring
< 1372035728 385596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably
< 1372035731 435158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1372035772 310534 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of whoa, "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; America Online Browser 1.1; rev1.2; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"
< 1372035784 943868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a referer spam bot, though.
< 1372035786 939265 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :user-agent strings own.
< 1372035791 506903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :america on line
< 1372035801 680421 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm clinically depressed and doing uhhhhh better. school and stuff.
< 1372035836 277198 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's really how I felt to, I was like, gosh all this stuff outside programming is /so fun and interesting/.
< 1372035856 410748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also learned a little bit about cooking, baking, etc
< 1372035858 489551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun stuff
< 1372035862 343307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to try homebrewing beer I think
< 1372035867 5393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean it wasn't totally new t me, like, I mean, I was bombarded with astronomy/physics stuff before I learned programming even but
< 1372035911 614887 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not quite as far away from programming as fandoms or writing or cooking or...
< 1372035988 412714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good if you know some things about astronomy and physics. I am also interested in physics. But I am also interested in mathematics.
< 1372036013 54358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should all aspire to be more like zzo38.
< 1372036019 845682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just a bit more, though.)
< 1372036075 621135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to play Potion of Confusing again.

< 1372036097 474398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four bombs only!
< 1372036099 318849 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 what mathematics are you interested in
< 1372036101 715395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time maybe you know how to do it better?
< 1372036110 997928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notice also that Jesus saves.
< 1372036119 424294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Jesus save all those who do not save themselves?
< 1372036142 458901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it makes me kind of weird though because I'm now like, a programmer who sometimes would rather write fanfic than code...
< 1372036153 231066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: All mathematics in general, really. However, I have studied various mathematical things in Wikipedia such as category theory and logic and surreal numbers too.
< 1372036166 747146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Why write fanfic and not just fic?
< 1372036178 673070 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm even worse at fic <.<
< 1372036182 84991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Well, I suppose some people don't always want to write the same thing. (That includes myself.)
< 1372036196 346613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo you should write fic
< 1372036223 307659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can get your own fans
< 1372036225 748351 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
< 1372036242 556125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well I don't think it *should* be weird for programmers to sometimes want to do things other than programming
< 1372036276 473084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the archetypal obsessive programmer is not really a happy or healthy character
< 1372036292 80486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I agree. Sometimes I play Dungeons&Dragons game. Sometimes you write on the IRC. See?
< 1372036295 698373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372036300 718309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't spend that much time programming really
< 1372036319 150473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might be how i spend most of my 'structured' time
< 1372036320 838569 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora but you didnt meet any new friends
< 1372036323 474118 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1372036324 717931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: real programmers write n their weblogs all day about what real programmers do
< 1372036330 161539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously
< 1372036344 177741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I have a C program open right now which I am also working on.
< 1372036353 328180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is it a Famicomulator?
< 1372036375 668066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe zzo38 should move to SF and work on Rust!
< 1372036375 688744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: I met a lot of new people online I guess?  I mean like    almost everyone I know now, I know through non-programmer-related connections, I think
< 1372036382 60640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just imagine rust.zzo38.moed.
< 1372036388 614812 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thats cool
< 1372036406 340728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No, it isn't, this one is a Z-machine interpreter with SDL. However, maybe I will try to make Famicom emulator too afterward at some time.
< 1372036428 211271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it suits business interests for young people to think that a singleminded obsessive is what they're supposed to be :/
< 1372036513 529565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, being obsessive of it can help too.
< 1372036577 895539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you should be fix (obsessed with being)
< 1372036639 308983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think that might be difficult. But, you have to be (among other things too), to be genius.
< 1372036743 376385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kWGMkslnkdg/TzCiO7moT5I/AAAAAAAAKlE/OreQvmM8SxA/s1600/calvin_hobbes_dont_knock_smock_2.gif
< 1372036793 91550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you should become a fan of calvin and hobbes
< 1372036803 867485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then write calvin and hobbes fan fiction (or not)
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< 1372036842 835984 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Computability topology. A hypothetical topology on N, such that the set of all continuous functions N -> {0, 1} is equal to the set of all computable functions N -> {0, 1}, given the discrete topology on {0, 1}.
< 1372036899 692106 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the intersection of two computable sets a computable set? Yes. Is the union of arbitrarily many computable sets a computable set? No.
< 1372036951 999471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1989/07/15
< 1372036958 251026 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why not?
< 1372036959 685402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1990/07/26
< 1372036973 460897 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait you mean recursive and not recursively enumerable alt. i don't remember how anything works.
< 1372036975 865156 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that doesn't work. If we use the Sierpi(n with an acute accent)ski topology, nothing changes.
< 1372036987 640548 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I do mean recursive, not recursively enumerable.
< 1372037005 667620 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we're talking recursively enumerable... then yes, if we say that the open sets are precisely the recursively enumerable sets, we have a topology.
< 1372037014 588373 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, do we... yes, we do.
< 1372037025 636931 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is the union of recursive sets not recursive?
< 1372037053 181553 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, we don't.
< 1372037074 572414 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any set {a, b, c, ...} can be written as the union of the sets {a}, {b}, {c}, ..., each of which is recursively enumerable.
< 1372037081 14169 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursive, for that matter.
< 1372037163 791434 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This seems like the sort of thing that ought to make a topology somehow.
< 1372037175 526935 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we say the open sets are those sets which are *not* recursively enumerable?
< 1372037205 396544 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... clearly not, since the empty set and N are both recursively enumerable (recursive, for that matter).
< 1372037566 373560 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: sorry! don't feel compelled to stay, but I remember you used to be around quite a bit and everyone was wondering where you'd gone! 
< 1372037588 512104 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :#epigram still has your topic :P
< 1372037599 62951 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372037622 392716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are also not compelled to type something all the time even if you do stay.
< 1372037631 36316 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372037651 124023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, even if you don't, you can still read the message on the logs, so that's OK anyways.
< 1372037705 381713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#epigram must have so many cobwebs
< 1372037732 494592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't pigworker say that epigram is dead
< 1372037747 317360 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live epigram
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< 1372041144 101866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I read that HoTT book everyone's talking about?
< 1372041173 260949 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372041190 384762 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, katla left
< 1372041301 805526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, quit earlier too
< 1372041308 836612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've been in and out
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< 1372042793 902883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night kmc
< 1372042807 627983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@night elliott
< 1372042807 910947 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1372042809 209896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oopse
< 1372042813 779590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♞ elliott
< 1372042852 101244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :night elliott
< 1372042872 926253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nelliott
< 1372042891 227266 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good nelliott
< 1372042892 295143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nellie lovett
< 1372042902 342750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's secret identity?!
< 1372042932 563692 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's secret Identity?!
< 1372042977 347730 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's secret runIdentity?!
< 1372043645 912594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's monad joke o'clock in #haskell are you sure you don't want to join
< 1372043675 241719 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose, shachaf. I sachaf.
< 1372043720 233881 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all are really bad at convincing people to join #haskell
< 1372043752 892779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1372043757 174446 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well it's an insider's club
< 1372043769 849131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we never wanted y'all to join anyway
< 1372043771 618680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good for you
< 1372043797 194947 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn’t be able to afford the monthly fee anyway.
< 1372043857 758802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you should come to #haskell btw
< 1372043861 131925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the best
< 1372043900 494668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just made the monad jokes stop with my iron fist
< 1372043906 440058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yarr
< 1372043906 795225 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a hornpipe in yer pocket, or arr ya just happy ta see me?
< 1372043922 988713 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: You already have missed many monad jokes, you should join soon.
< 1372043951 679906 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a monad in yer monad, or arr ya just ap-y ta see me?
< 1372043973 111585 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome
< 1372044020 504958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@arr
< 1372044020 723408 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swab the deck!
< 1372044030 680389 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@array
< 1372044030 701962 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy mateys
< 1372044077 260976 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC should also just pick the closest match silently instead of erroring out and telling you about them.
< 1372044087 979515 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A.k.a. DWIM
< 1372044135 615156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DWIM is great because it's really do what you think i think you will think i think you will mean
< 1372044143 151536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better than just saying what you want
< 1372044248 333672 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, in case of a type error, GHC should substitute values (including functions) with others in scope that make the type error go away.
< 1372044294 341297 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why limit it to scope!?
< 1372044319 760701 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, it might as well import modules when it seems to help. And install packages, too.
< 1372044336 157936 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just more convenient
< 1372044379 519574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Simpler to use unsafeCoerce.
< 1372044384 766848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never ever give the programmer an error message
< 1372044386 319365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they hate those
< 1372044463 906106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you must give an error message it should be inserted at an arbitrary location in the HTML you're serving to users
< 1372044481 888967 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upon finding the substitutions that fix the program, GHC should also modify the source file automatically.
< 1372044639 904495 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :or delete it
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< 1372049312 725552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if hagfish can be caught in finland
< 1372049323 978401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they exist in sweden apparently
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< 1372054967 40404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you see http://www.concatenation.org/futures/whatsexpected.pdf by chiang
< 1372054999 866624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(v. short, one page)
< 1372055081 768711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet but I just realized he wrote http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v405/n6786/full/405517a0.html too
< 1372055084 777971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good and i did read it
< 1372055177 422392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think that was in the book.
< 1372055253 179130 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this transhumanist
< 1372055253 286517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has read it now

< 1372055254 573539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. good
< 1372056990 713355 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :Israel_B_
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< 1372064733 991433 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1372065617 978330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last week I found a book in the library titled "Can smart people believe in God?" I agree with much of what they wrote but I think they have too much Christian bias in some of their arguments.
< 1372065656 984510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The author is Christian, and I don't blame that, but I think the argument is too much Christian bias anyways.)
< 1372065716 429779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They compared being scientific but not spiritual, or being spiritual but not scientific, as being like watching the universe with only one eye open.
< 1372065742 805908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I can see the analogy there.
< 1372065753 702351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do disagree with some things he writes, though.
< 1372065981 264889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say even atheists believe in things, depending on the atheists, such as Randomness, etc. Randomness? Isn't that like believing in your left hand but not the rest of your body and your surroundings? It is an analogy I made up, because, it is only a part of it!
< 1372066094 580160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do *you* think of this?????
< 1372066146 650934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I agree with you.
< 1372066202 997816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Entirely with what I wrote, or..... something else?
< 1372066281 602759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1372066326 664900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any other comments about this?
< 1372066349 964558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only this one.
< 1372066405 215984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. But, I don't think you should agree/disagree without questioning it at first. If you do that at first, then OK.
< 1372066439 861955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I considered questioning it, but you had used so many question marks that I wasn't sure whether I'd have any left.
< 1372066479 404982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you can have whatever you want left.
< 1372066535 246028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I have any rights left?
< 1372066548 585613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think so.
< 1372067507 598198 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372067628 16387 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372068324 441549 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372068393 559054 :GOMADWarrior!bd045aae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.4.90.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't into rivers
< 1372068448 908538 :GOMADWarrior!bd045aae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.4.90.174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1372068584 832260 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you into river
< 1372068721 63952 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372068885 100159 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, into river!
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< 1372069877 599724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i read the rust tutorial. it looks p. good
< 1372070453 12884 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372071978 506395 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372072058 328948 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372072082 462053 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah hi
< 1372072233 529011 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you say aaaah
< 1372072337 468540 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-125-3.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I just finished exams
< 1372072779 368384 :GOMADWarrior!bd045aae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.4.90.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
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< 1372076901 450892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1372076905 255742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit
< 1372077270 469748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372077431 991719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAA carpenters
< 1372077439 765704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i let them in, too)
< 1372077529 480911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: Does she know what birds are? <-- birds are dinosaurs hth
< 1372077533 816055 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1372077730 600115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:09:56:  Fiora: imo you should write fic
< 1372077730 657160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:10:23:  maybe you can get your own fans
< 1372077742 245858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any fanfics that have their own fanfics
< 1372078472 194977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: FREEDOM?
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< 1372082348 596160 :abumirqaan!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nzrbjdblufnvvsbr NICK :upgrayeddd
< 1372082513 886661 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
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< 1372082534 83164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*elieser22@*
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< 1372082540 86182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
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< 1372082558 119667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if his connection has fixed itself.
< 1372082592 671747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that wasn't a connection issue really, they /parted not /quit
< 1372082597 174948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe they have a really weird bouncer or something
< 1372082607 249240 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably they've gotten bored now though
< 1372082608 535037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok
< 1372082669 333478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2794285/86400
< 1372082671 626480 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  32.341261574074075
< 1372083048 376025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish freenode didn't keep resetting the ban dates
< 1372083073 104700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372083179 146238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of nice to be able to see which bans are old...
< 1372083306 945777 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372083415 907416 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
< 1372083798 514658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc :)
< 1372083890 555387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am up early to receive a shipment
< 1372084028 194455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time kmc
< 1372084029 130946 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for kmc is Mon Jun 24 10:27:08 2013
< 1372084036 516595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is early
< 1372084046 170383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though later than what I expect when most people say "early"
< 1372084062 24748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since apparently people are superhumans who think getting up at 9 am is reasonable or whatever
< 1372084163 293553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what's with that
< 1372084201 55560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are superhumans who think being /at work/ at 9 am is reasonable
< 1372084239 994229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was in high school i had to be at school by 8 or whatever but I could also exist on zero sleep back then
< 1372084252 264003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you too have this power elliott: enjoy it while it lasts
< 1372084276 47732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: uh it depends what you mean by "exist"
< 1372084297 582887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I frequently have not slept in 24 hours but I wouldn't say I function particularly well under those circumstances
< 1372084353 271581 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does mozilla involve being at work at 9 am "the worst possible thing"
< 1372084359 534607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it does
< 1372084385 492249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mean absolute number of hours without any sleep at all
< 1372084396 744606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like can you function on 4 hours of sleep a night indefinitely
< 1372084489 427604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you take on a job without first figuring out whether you need to be up at an ungodly hour. adults
< 1372084496 735404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway uh I haven't really tried
< 1372084499 473561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I have a few times
< 1372084510 804426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can theoretically do it but would want to die pretty quickly
< 1372084546 551698 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being woken up by an alarm is the worst experience
< 1372084562 917469 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would Not Recommend
< 1372084721 510764 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372086667 244026 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's usually expected that your working hours have at least some overlap with other people's working hours
< 1372086681 887043 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. so you can talk at each other and pretend to collaborate
< 1372087431 110044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall my dad's workplace had something like "core hours" when you had to be there, but then a part outside that which you could choose more freely.
< 1372087468 809824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's common
< 1372087494 120367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozilla has lots of people working remotely and from different time zones
< 1372087520 411013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :their attitude about offices is like... if there's an office near you and you want space there, you can have it
< 1372087526 264080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they do have really nice offices
< 1372087543 788664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it takes a special kind of person to work from a different time zone without actually being in a different place
< 1372087555 920670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1372087582 876192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel for "special" people | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
< 1372087607 429614 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372087687 90099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi katla
< 1372087689 224625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi katla
< 1372087713 11092 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up
< 1372087714 203009 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so i thought about the ai thing, and i seem to recall that once upon a time i used to call the stupid kind of ai stuff combinatorial optimization. perhaps seeing the arxiv feed every day has not been good for my brain.
< 1372087725 120803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sun is up
< 1372087801 445938 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5talk
< 1372087809 55027 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw google scholar updates are pretty magical, like 30% of its suggestions are interesting
< 1372087816 663217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: i'm up early (by my standards), waiting for someone to deliver a huge box
< 1372087822 621252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will then load my possessions into that box
< 1372087827 245620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they will ship it to california
< 1372087831 280619 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1372087840 664072 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean interesting enough that i feel like i should read them
< 1372087888 105762 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i want a huge box too
< 1372087938 731845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :packing and moving is a pain
< 1372087945 986484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not too bad this time
< 1372087946 103976 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's what you're doing
< 1372087954 607626 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not envy you anymore
< 1372087970 876012 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i moved it was like 50 meters, and it still took almost a day
< 1372087980 792827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1372087990 291023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college we used shopping carts for that purpose
< 1372088010 203070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stolen from the local grocery
< 1372088017 188540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're really lazy you just park your shopping cart full of clothes and stuff in your new room and don't bother unpacking it
< 1372088024 38556 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even have to go outside to move stuff from the old apartment to this one
< 1372088031 243469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just becomes a piece of furniture like a dresser
< 1372088052 953293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the weeks leading up to moving day, people would hoard shopping carts and stash them in secret locations
< 1372088059 199852 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1372088082 693811 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always wanted a shopping cart but stores refuse to sell theirs and stealing is wrong or something
< 1372088097 16246 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372088100 960421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372088111 461407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only stole carts from the people who'd already stolen them
< 1372088114 751534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes me a good guy right
< 1372088116 744705 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372088124 7422 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they stole it from someone who stole it from a store
< 1372088131 258626 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case you are an asshole
< 1372088134 243343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1372088145 975616 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to have to move all my shit back from warwick in a couple of days
< 1372088155 256410 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not looking forward to that
< 1372088155 673088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to where?
< 1372088237 942188 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to edinburgh
< 1372088267 573443 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so today, me and my coauthor started our first article on cellular automata where our supervisor is also coauthoring
< 1372088295 620614 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i have something about picture languages with him, but we never did anything together before for some reason)
< 1372088338 272926 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are you quitting university
< 1372088348 502321 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm just moving out of halls
< 1372088360 693872 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh err what does that mean
< 1372088371 840530 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortiecat
< 1372088382 372887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh they're still going strong http://michaelnielsen.org/polymath1/index.php?title=Bounded_gaps_between_primes
< 1372088395 900075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost at 10000 now
< 1372088426 734951 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, halls of residence are the on-campus accomodation you stay in for the first year
< 1372088446 282786 :nortiecat!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
< 1372088500 290832 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: eventually it will turn out that the lowest you can go is 3, hth
< 1372088511 618316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY
< 1372088533 93651 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, was that deliberate
< 1372088538 397771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's actually impossible)
< 1372088551 321617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i thought of the quip before i realised the problem. then i realised the problem quickly. then i decided it made the joke better
< 1372088562 51631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i said it.
< 1372088638 508551 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pardon my stupidity, but why is that not possible?
< 1372088653 197918 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1372088657 812855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1372088668 268523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because there are only two primes that are 3 apart hth
< 1372088685 838291 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the second...
< 1372088688 68052 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372088691 65711 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION idiot

< 1372088709 405912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens to the best of us
< 1372088711 648627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the twin prime conjecture is independent and the lowest you can go in ZFC is 8294
< 1372088733 766466 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's incredible they have a finite bound
< 1372088756 473355 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you even prove that
< 1372088781 304737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the project started after someone found out how
< 1372088886 297327 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 12,006 is very good
< 1372089219 14534 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most recently published gap proof seems fun, it required a sufficiently large N, got an upper bound on that N, and manually checked every thing below it
< 1372089246 27163 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurrah for computer-assisted proofs
< 1372089260 387955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at edinburgh in google maps, it seem to have a huge number of golf courses

< 1372089285 4411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*seems
< 1372089294 845858 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay, wow, that's incredible
< 1372089331 66135 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just assumed there was a proof or two discovered; there's actually over a dozen improvements a day on some days
< 1372089343 822783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep thinking my solution to moving should be to not have stuff
< 1372089350 338799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no matter how much stuff i get rid of I still have quite a lot
< 1372089361 401715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I think still a lot less than people my age are expected to
< 1372089377 120294 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :__builtin_nortti
< 1372089379 182657 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you have more stuff than you think, especially when you put it in boxes
< 1372089385 461826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1372089390 677946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i think to improve on it now all they need to do is find a fairly small set of numbers which satisfies some decidable property or something?
< 1372089399 566700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least i remember reading something like that
< 1372089404 650068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not surprising there's rapid iteration if so
< 1372089432 200919 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you understand the proof
< 1372089435 122157 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the original bound
< 1372089466 760561 :__builtin_nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
< 1372089466 981112 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does not understand the math, or the theorem that makes the bound possible

< 1372089470 86809 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone
< 1372089483 700964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't tried
< 1372089503 687585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond what elliott said
< 1372089523 954142 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :number theory is too hard for me
< 1372089575 586160 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, we're computer scientists, the most we do with theoretically with numbers is represent them using unary
< 1372089581 725659 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :right.... right
< 1372089596 628075 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for those of us that are computer scientists)
< 1372089654 509369 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko and oerjan are both mathematicians...
< 1372089714 207858 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, nowadays i think of myself more as a mathematician wannabe, my papers have no integrals
< 1372089725 287464 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not many at least
< 1372089803 265675 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so btw cool perhaps-result from today: a size 2 neighborhood surjective CA on a prime alphabet is permutive in one of the coordinates
< 1372089837 174329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a prime alphabet?
< 1372089841 744600 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's cool because no good characterization of surjectivity is known)
< 1372089845 441217 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :alphabet of prime size
< 1372089898 332662 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :acronym?
< 1372089913 800317 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CA = cellular automata if that's what you mean
< 1372089935 648679 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see, and size 2?
< 1372089948 400411 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :its neighborhood has size 2
< 1372089960 813142 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next state is based on looking at some 2 cells, relative to the current cell
< 1372090023 880518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: speaking of mathematicians, do you know much about permutations...
< 1372090026 425807 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, I see :o
< 1372090051 970841 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :all cellular automata arise in this way, for some value of being the same as
< 1372090054 34589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well a bit...
< 1372090238 73482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well the cardinality of the set of permutations of A is |A|^|A| = 2^|A| when A is infinite and so I'm wondering about the details of the bijection between bijections between A and A and functions from A to A this should give you...
< 1372090305 697812 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought this would be about the symmetric groups
< 1372090320 217051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISAPPOINTED
< 1372090356 387293 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont you have to use axiom of choice to go from |X| = |Y| to a bijection X -> Y?
< 1372090361 575389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you can pretend I said the cardinality of the symmetric group of A if that would help
< 1372090375 319424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: no, that's the definition of |X| = |Y§
< 1372090381 490103 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it's easy to inject either in the other, and then just construct the solution with the axiom of constructable choice.
< 1372090388 124487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*|Y|
< 1372090389 123683 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it doesn't use choice it uses excluded middle
< 1372090401 646850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also wondering if the bijection is a natural isomorphism or whatever or if it depends on the details of A...
< 1372090420 488393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although _defining_ |X| may be awkward without choice
< 1372090443 505898 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :point is you dont have an explicit bijection you just know one exists
< 1372090476 221596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if you have injections, then i believe the proof of the schröder-bernstein theorem is quite constructive.
< 1372090493 229438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: i suppose
< 1372090494 322541 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some way to label permutations of A by subsets of A but it's probably completely arbitrary
< 1372090495 250291 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but then my awesome joke doesn't work
< 1372090501 617680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: yeah... I'm interested in seeing what such a bijection looks like "in practice"
< 1372090505 808465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if A is just the naturals or whatever
< 1372090526 327014 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine it as acompletely random (since we dont know anythinnf about it)
< 1372090527 576850 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: that may be, but i wouldn't say it's a priori clear
< 1372090562 675766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i suspect the bijection is hideously unnatural
< 1372090573 148669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I realise it might not even be a computable bijection...
< 1372090585 502291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i expect it's computable
< 1372090613 142788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe the other form, a bijection between bijections between A and A and functions from A to 2, is cleaner?? I don't really know what I'm doing...
< 1372090625 474431 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think its computable, how could it be?
< 1372090635 622433 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would need a constructive proof of its existence
< 1372090646 198320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm well maybe it depends
< 1372090684 915050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe you need choice to prove the cardinalities are the same.
< 1372090686 530748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: well maybe for a specific A?
< 1372090706 440675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like even just seeing an (N <-> N) <-> (N -> N) would be interesting to me
< 1372090710 355182 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter what A is as long as |A| = |N|
< 1372090719 349252 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372090748 669443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: N -> N should be easy.  an injection from N <-> N to N -> N is trivial, of course.
< 1372090754 374447 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :computable in what sense? like, for numerable A, you can compute the image of a \in A from knowing a long enough prefix of the characteristic sequence of the subset or something?
< 1372090778 405743 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just the identity you mean?
< 1372090782 315045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372090804 364817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an injection the other way shouldn't be too hard.
< 1372090826 54394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you have those, the schröder-bernstein construction is constructive, as i said.
< 1372090832 230182 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well I mean in the sense of you can construct a Coq expression of type (bijection (bijection nat nat) (nat -> nat))
< 1372090834 273053 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :from N -> N to N <-> N is very easy too, just permute adjacent pairs and encode the images of every number
< 1372090857 885929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds reasonable
< 1372090858 583017 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like permu, permu, permu, no permu in the beginning would code that 1 goes to 3
< 1372090868 292400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, maybe not constructive, but explicitly definable
< 1372090897 786355 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is the reduced form actually (N -> 2) when you're doing it constructively or is it (N -> Prop)...? I know "powersets" are usually defined as the latter
< 1372090963 420580 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372091042 389908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i don't really have a clue about real constructiveness hth
< 1372091062 275082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a faker mathematician :(
< 1372091078 552972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe oklopol, I bet people call him a computer scientist all the time
< 1372091085 724528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1372091127 641640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect schröder-bernstein might use the excluded middle at least
< 1372091138 613772 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pretend to be a mathematician sometimes
< 1372091139 592943 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do :(
< 1372091142 118802 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I be of service?
< 1372091145 473147 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my feeling is it's (N->Prop) ... (N->2) is "decidable subsets" or something like that
< 1372091186 49266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: right but (N -> Prop) -> (N <-> N) sounds really unlikely to be non-trivial without excluded middle... (N -> 2) -> (N <-> N) much less so
< 1372091192 194862 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other day this dude who does all the practical computer stuff was like "so oklopol i bet you run virtual oses all the time" and i was like omg that sounds scary and just kinda disappeared
< 1372091204 173063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my hunch tells me that either the reduction to 2^|A| doesn't work constructively or it's actually 2
< 1372091230 870081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah An important feature of this theorem is that it does not rely on the axiom of choice. However, its various proofs are non-constructive, as they depend on the law of excluded middle, and therefore rejected by intuitionists.[1]
< 1372091241 391943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372091298 979431 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-oh
< 1372091457 328284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah for the proof given, presumably you need LEM to determine whether it's A/B-stopper or doubly infinite
< 1372091462 909587 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same guy (at work btw, seems i forgot that detail) always catcher me in the hallway and starts talking about his latest problems with installing stuff and i don't understand anything and just nod politely
< 1372091472 649129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, or cyclic.
< 1372091508 412253 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the fun vertex matching proof
< 1372091538 615475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's a graph there, so probably
< 1372091557 22834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schröder-Bernstein_theorem#Visualization
< 1372091561 849330 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe you can do (N -> 2) <-> (N <-> N) by taking the 2 to mean "displaced" or something...
< 1372091568 75869 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to be the only one that's possible to remember
< 1372091571 948256 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION starting the day with quackery

< 1372091589 981362 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that thingie
< 1372091808 960436 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myhill_isomorphism_theorem
< 1372091821 737301 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this mentioned already
< 1372091898 640306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1372091915 240855 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds related
< 1372091921 620397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372091928 74515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1372091931 210863 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1372091937 206222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: CU
< 1372091985 922577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did oklopol know oerjan was going to leave
< 1372091998 316541 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the magic of reading
< 1372092026 841334 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading... or conspiracy
< 1372092034 181471 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372092038 75071 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1372092043 701014 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiiiit
< 1372092066 624477 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you totally caught me
< 1372092088 831133 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the blinking text
< 1372092125 295227 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1372092631 595824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do it in irsi
< 1372092640 262630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssissippi
< 1372092648 903085 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^F
< 1372092666 796445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallo
< 1372092696 36551 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thankfully not seeing it
< 1372092701 548494 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo?
< 1372092711 449970 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not either
< 1372092724 407197 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably using the wrong terminal or something
< 1372092725 347154 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this suppose to show up as something other than a unsupported-Unicode-character box?
< 1372092733 99264 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1372092886 11080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it blinks in irssi
< 1372092902 888346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp
< 1372092934 244206 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1372093258 504531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is annoying
< 1372093263 877096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've successfully annoyed myself
< 1372093266 780163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lot Bike
< 1372093385 19173 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :np
< 1372093496 51278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my moving pod is here
< 1372093502 924138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to climb in
< 1372093507 406503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wait
< 1372093517 258880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could probably rent it for $800/mo in sf
< 1372093529 361742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i have a friend who would do that
< 1372093538 17822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet people do it all the time
< 1372093540 14347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he would hide in your clothes hamper for 3 hours just so he could jump out and scare the shit out of you
< 1372093574 163252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of like being a sniper
< 1372093586 933146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think every time someone scares me like that I lose a few years of life
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< 1372094070 784300 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time someone scares me like that, the flashbacks kick in and I kill them.
< 1372094084 796098 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, THEY use a few years of THEIR life.
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< 1372094288 250015 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/breaking-news-dead-man-found-in-hexham-burn-1.1065270?referrerPath=home
< 1372094345 439659 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things happen in Hexham, apparently
< 1372094538 740024 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn courant
< 1372094540 250553 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "courant".
< 1372094553 219121 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like some crazy british spelling of "current"
< 1372094602 920637 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hexham currant
< 1372094627 397440 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead in a burn?
< 1372094675 992678 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy, burn also can mean stream sometimes
< 1372094692 340884 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you crazy brits
< 1372094867 853990 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it took me a while to realize that "burn" was not the verb.
< 1372094884 819646 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking, "they found a burnt husk of a corpse?"
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< 1372096668 167631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham voultage
< 1372096856 891600 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought burn was scots
< 1372096862 595344 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess hexham is basically in scotland
< 1372096901 628226 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Northumbrian dialect bears much similarity to Scots in places
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< 1372099047 928661 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no I am still reliant on a website that will be discontinued in less than a week
< 1372099410 182558 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372099780 560931 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, google reader (i thought that was already down)
< 1372099789 3374 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1372099793 695711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes down on the 1st of July
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< 1372100996 411839 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372101199 177528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently Scala doesn't have parametricity. I blame copumpkin for making me discover this.
< 1372101278 993557 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372101294 628498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that because the supertype shared by all objects contains enough rope to break it?
< 1372101320 218327 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to just literally give you typecase
< 1372101321 36463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :     def const3[A](a: A, a2: A): A = (a, a2) match {
< 1372101321 91562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :       case (s: Int, s2: Int) => if (s < s2) a else a2
< 1372101321 112552 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :       case _ => a
< 1372101321 112716 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :     }
< 1372101325 704900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://failex.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/fake-theorems-for-free.html
< 1372101338 64850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nasty
< 1372101353 962258 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1372101355 304765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they figure, Java lets you do it, so there's no point hiding it because Java APIs will already break parametricity
< 1372101369 762236 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could subtyping work in a Haskell-like language?
< 1372101398 273174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it's ugly (Scala has subtyping)
< 1372101434 380170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, data Foo = Foo {a :: Int, b :: Char}; data Bar extends Foo with {c :: Bool}
< 1372101440 746435 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that work?
< 1372101456 665219 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it's ugly
< 1372101508 880292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is prejudiced against subtyping
< 1372101525 581077 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a subtypist
< 1372101549 589544 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would be able to use Bar with functions that are (Foo -> a) but not (a -> Foo)
< 1372101662 558931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In away, all types are subtypes of ()
< 1372101677 469408 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to call that the "trivial supertype"
< 1372101724 485821 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not Void, huh
< 1372101742 680638 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I think Void is sort of a subtype of every type
< 1372101754 540268 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall call that the "trivial subtype"
< 1372101766 352106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The type () is what is called a final object; does that have anything to do with it?
< 1372101766 433259 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372101767 453131 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is so exciting huh elliott
< 1372101780 625106 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I think so!
< 1372101783 732836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Bike
< 1372101794 653226 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliott.
< 1372101886 32966 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372101887 239996 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This subtyping thing becomes ugly when combined with polymorphic types
< 1372101895 209055 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1372102013 456914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need two extending, one for addition and one for multiplication?
< 1372102022 559120 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372102056 601257 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I haven't thought about addition
< 1372102082 88389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you considered lens-subtyping vs. prism-subtyping hth
< 1372102111 94260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With multiplication you get Bar->Foo and if you define Bar with addition then you will have Foo->Bar instead, I think, isn't it?
< 1372102122 21153 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I think with sum types the subtyping would sort of be the other way rou --- yeah
< 1372102201 64426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the subtyping is still in the same direction.
< 1372102210 403281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that the function that you have is different.
< 1372102217 936554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe you mean the same thing I mean.
< 1372102219 344337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is what I meant.
< 1372102241 600453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant Bar->Foo and Foo->Bar are the types of the functions that it would make.
< 1372102242 131113 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, with product types the larger definition is the subtype, with sum types the smaller one is
< 1372102296 632122 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This gets messy when you have more complicated types
< 1372102301 280180 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall now stop thinking about it
< 1372102303 273055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not about cardinality, exactly.
< 1372102307 128714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey no don't do that
< 1372102308 114565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1372102361 940902 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb is my hero
< 1372102417 933056 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats this about subtyping
< 1372102435 610978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did write a Haskell program that will allow various modules that know a module defining a record type to each add fields without knowing each other, and the first module doesn't have to know about them either.
< 1372102497 385802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, you need to define a way to make default values of each fields, so that a value of such a type can be constructed. It is possible for the default value to depend on something, and whatever defines the record type also defines what type is needed to make up the default values.
< 1372102587 452520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be used as another way to make global variables, instead of using unsafePerformIO and NOINLINE.
< 1372102588 752652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hey you know that haskell program that gave different output depending on which language extensions were enabled?
< 1372102591 754751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you still have that?
< 1372102627 410989 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes I do have that.
< 1372102639 976294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it available over HTTP?
< 1372102656 936739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.  http://sprunge.us/edTV
< 1372102673 511220 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.
< 1372102679 703436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! may I share it with someone I know? do you want attribution?
< 1372102716 965452 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can share it if you want, modify it if you want, give attribution if you want (it isn't required), etc
< 1372102760 765027 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you
< 1372102768 733214 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicecode zzo38 
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< 1372103946 938171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too god damn motherfucking hot
< 1372104311 789502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google boston weather
< 1372104312 775786 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found.
< 1372104315 590608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1372104366 632411 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT
< 1372104378 940470 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :METASEPIA
< 1372104504 90784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to hit 97°F / 36°C today
< 1372104512 262258 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1372104578 499253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@temperature kmc
< 1372104578 608890 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1372104582 829057 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you said
< 1372104583 342782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo move to sf
< 1372104586 565019 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is very hot
< 1372104595 25992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's the only way"
< 1372104632 385670 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, remind me
< 1372104643 669189 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many people in this channel other than you live in San Francisco
< 1372104652 497310 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't live in San Francisco.
< 1372104663 477487 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not what I asked
< 1372104681 541575 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what I /implied/, yes, but not what I asked
< 1372104689 290624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You should change your person-addressing character to use a colon instead of a comma.
< 1372104703 870463 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I did for a while, but it felt wrong
< 1372104704 820406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come
< 1372104720 620086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :, is the devil.
< 1372104732 235390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It feels like part of a sentence instead of part of a protocol.
< 1372104807 325381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should it be a protocol
< 1372104822 59410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372104836 116375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it is
< 1372104849 352370 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly I don't want people saying my name in every sentence.
< 1372104860 214725 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, when I say, eg, "shachaf, hi!", in my head I am saying your name
< 1372104883 133037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are you pronouncing the ch correctly
< 1372104884 287133 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the nominative!
< 1372104886 863127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then it's just rude.
< 1372104909 603413 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what would the vocative be?
< 1372104915 449401 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1372104919 9983 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mean the vocative
< 1372104930 530999 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, how are you?
< 1372104936 124648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :romanos eunt domus
< 1372105211 797100 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372105392 644795 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
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< 1372106243 510336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:59:06:  it's too god damn motherfucking hot
< 1372106243 654409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:05:11:  @google boston weather
< 1372106256 326204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's how it was the one time i was in boston too
< 1372106270 300894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time of year
< 1372106270 407681 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep.
< 1372106304 821460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: around 4th of july
< 1372106309 646390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372106314 147000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we watched the fireworks)
< 1372106350 580627 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I watched fireworks it was my birthday
< 1372106387 306372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs taneb.*birthday
< 1372106393 189008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently

< 1372106400 222817 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, 3rd of November
< 1372106416 447743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. why are there fireworks then
< 1372106432 684206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19940
< 1372106433 107223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closest Saturday to Guy Fawkes?
< 1372106438 591684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1372106438 949269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 days early
< 1372106442 24786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :efb
< 1372106480 706417 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1372106483 281062 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? efb
< 1372106484 891364 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :efb? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1372106485 325760 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          |
< 1372106485 543117 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        o/`¯º
< 1372106490 964114 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha
< 1372106501 943304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :endorphins for barter
< 1372106511 159304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a drugz thing
< 1372106511 356189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi
< 1372106513 197893 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1372106513 650214 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             |
< 1372106513 756584 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º
< 1372106515 827547 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :electric flying bananas?
< 1372106529 273042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn myndzi keeps us all on our feet
< 1372106533 69789 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1372106676 916697 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"edit: fuck, beaten"
< 1372106747 882348 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a sommethingawful thing?
< 1372106827 334050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an internet thing
< 1372106838 187556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe originating from SA (like so many internet things)
< 1372106844 377 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1372107373 543990 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1372107490 69353 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372107933 133254 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone is interested i am streaming the masterpiece of game design "dot action 2" http://www.twitch.tv/neostairs
< 1372107952 21261 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stairs 2: revenge of escalator
< 1372108044 36240 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow what the heck is this
< 1372108111 848530 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dot action 2
< 1372108124 692734 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott you have to jump all the way to the top come on man.
< 1372108128 668852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know
< 1372108129 867688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry
< 1372108131 673116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so sorry
< 1372108147 529471 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u fucked up
< 1372108165 172862 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with all the japanese
< 1372108165 796016 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks so horribly unfun
< 1372108165 817006 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1372108179 825029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1372108192 131650 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it encoded in ascii somehow? i'm wondering if zzo made this
< 1372108242 319057 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell do all these numbers mean................
< 1372108254 596376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZET lets you walk through lava
< 1372108259 845432 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372108261 542026 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372108261 791502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: it's the greatest game ever made actually
< 1372108294 128997 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that was a "pretty intense jump" good job
< 1372108312 381961 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that jump? not so intense
< 1372108331 618732 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you need to rev up the intensity there, imo.
< 1372108416 709043 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good death animation
< 1372108441 879733 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats great about it
< 1372108487 235371 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the circus music
< 1372108488 715112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's beautiful
< 1372108496 71647 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly it's a Dogma thing
< 1372108500 202416 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in like 40 levels it stops bothering to make sense
< 1372108508 58761 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant wait 2 see
< 1372108515 320523 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget how far i got in that game
< 1372108529 567105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like. why are you doing this
< 1372108542 930465 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372108558 219068 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372108567 737573 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just addicted to the beep sound
< 1372108614 508284 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think i remember this level
< 1372108627 86656 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time units are being used exactly
< 1372108633 852496 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME
< 1372108654 370894 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1372108657 677735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: it's true
< 1372108758 217941 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you bare playing this
< 1372108773 650226 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372108797 796867 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a ritualistic thing
< 1372108809 872460 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping it was actually an AI he wrote for the purpose
< 1372108916 309187 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like you could write an AI to play this game
< 1372108921 913914 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would take a lot of effort
< 1372108937 226585 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better just to get some chump to play it for you
< 1372108979 794593 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this game is what you get if you remove everything good from super metroid then try to make a game out of whats left
< 1372109001 918857 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i already hate this level.
< 1372109003 693854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/register-number-one,32928/
< 1372109016 201054 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: "this is N for people who don't like fun"
< 1372109025 458527 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1372109110 640742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  i guess this game is what you get if you remove everything good from super metroid then try to make a game out of whats left
< 1372109114 703095 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1061)  i guess this game is what you get if you remove everything good from super metroid then try to make a game out of whats left
< 1372109147 572556 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that it goes black when you talk on irc is scary since it implies that you're actually playing
< 1372109201 208782 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott explained it elsewhere actually: this is just a youtube let's play and it goes black when he's switching to the next video
< 1372109206 725982 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody played this gaem
< 1372109216 144951 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :***Game
< 1372109221 374551 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok phew.
< 1372109247 232111 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh. why are you streaming a let's play
< 1372109296 341463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy forgot to mention i was joking
< 1372109311 398932 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up don't ruin my dream.
< 1372109328 606037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to do this next level without sound to show how hardcore i am.
< 1372109358 571657 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats ZET
< 1372109376 802279 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lava immunity
< 1372109386 882573 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lava being the beige orange dots
< 1372109394 505109 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i hate this level.
< 1372109397 183799 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm glad you recognise they're lava
< 1372109400 610631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people think they're electricity
< 1372109402 312763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're so wrong??
< 1372109418 921751 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :confession: i only know because monqy said so
< 1372109428 996961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1372109434 636263 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it was lava without anyone telling me
< 1372109440 648101 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla > bike, imo
< 1372109453 391408 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey. hey there's sound!!
< 1372109541 503626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1372109541 623381 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im glad for this stage
< 1372109545 170921 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how have you been watching it without sound
< 1372109565 366759 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i've been watching it w/ sound
< 1372109565 569305 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sound is the only good thing about it
< 1372109569 761809 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you said you were turning it off!
< 1372109575 111159 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: probably in reference to 14:28:49  im going to do this next level without sound to show how hardcore  i am.
< 1372109590 923486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i just muted it on my computer
< 1372109625 69915 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this level is the worst.
< 1372109645 71712 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha ha ha ha
< 1372109655 428571 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepare
< 1372109659 246545 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey nooodl did you beat dot action 2
< 1372109660 450531 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like at least seven worst
< 1372109667 491694 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i dont understand is why you'd even want to complete this level
< 1372109676 358270 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i got to stage 50ish and i'm on "post traumatic stress hiatus"
< 1372109710 145675 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: some people walk on coals. some people go to the dentist. some people play Dot Action Two
< 1372109888 98590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even fail at this level in a good way
< 1372109889 829141 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically elliott is a flagellant.
< 1372109891 214163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only embarrassing ways
< 1372109997 167311 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have to jump between the tall things.
< 1372110003 498674 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1372110005 392633 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm aware.
< 1372110025 432193 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure you aim your jumps so that from each tall thing you land onto the next tall thing.
< 1372110088 294372 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't touch the lava things. Really you shouldn't be anywhere near the lava on your return trip, it's way below where you should be (which is: on top of the tall things, or between them, in the midst of jumping between the tall things)
< 1372110193 418710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY
< 1372110206 889042 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This level is at least nine bad.
< 1372110209 6234 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO.
< 1372110304 837031 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372110312 67596 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the jumps are blind
< 1372110327 422291 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god bless america
< 1372110336 557747 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it would be easy if you could see where you were jumping
< 1372110343 359564 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is bike playing
< 1372110354 163328 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The give elliott helpful advice game
< 1372110377 569200 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott
< 1372110378 212071 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372110404 54851 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're playing a trial-and-error platformer
< 1372110424 62175 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you understand.
< 1372110426 917190 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should know better
< 1372110437 845348 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott knows nothing.
< 1372110440 36606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you watching
< 1372110443 135308 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's enlightened.
< 1372110458 313531 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you learn nothing from the support group!
< 1372110472 252155 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask sgeo i have a BYOND-related question for you. i know. i'm sorry world
< 1372110472 588436 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1372110475 494773 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also: are you using OSX???)
< 1372110490 225349 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's using Haiku with reskinned windows
< 1372110528 562019 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch just wasn't obscure enough i guess
< 1372110560 375334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you really
< 1372110561 18045 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont want to watch any more of this horrid game
< 1372110576 513633 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a cat rubbing sandpaper on my eardrums
< 1372110589 904744 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm sorry.................................
< 1372110598 225517 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is BYOND
< 1372110606 377749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: neither does anybody else. we're trapped
< 1372110606 689870 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some thing sgeo likes
< 1372110624 662191 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh... this is
< 1372110630 811452 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1372110675 467221 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thislevel is the worst ye
< 1372110675 995897 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t
< 1372110683 394679 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like VVVVVV
< 1372110685 815936 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not fun
< 1372110712 138963 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the gravity direction never changes
< 1372110716 370559 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else does!
< 1372110727 941369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: isn't BYOND the thing used for space station 13?
< 1372110736 565130 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's why im asking
< 1372110762 767594 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i'm thinking about playing it but if it's a web client that would be nice and convenient.
< 1372110769 801726 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow nicely done
< 1372110775 752058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessss first time!!!
< 1372110785 562364 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good level
< 1372110798 357479 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened
< 1372110802 306102 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he won
< 1372110802 627983 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : everything else does!
< 1372110803 509196 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the level
< 1372110811 393551 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was an option for this in VVVVVV!
< 1372110832 280357 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no elliott
< 1372110834 909511 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't stop now
< 1372110839 109600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't stop
< 1372110859 456016 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omh
< 1372110870 120242 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this level's at least twelve worst for sure
< 1372110871 925166 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omz
< 1372110872 685006 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at this shit
< 1372110874 692870 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely 12
< 1372110880 10928 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372110883 617277 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like 23 worst
< 1372110884 755777 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least
< 1372110917 13237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372110923 15998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm ready to reveal the secret
< 1372110926 201316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already know how to do this level
< 1372110934 806850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to give you all the experience of doing it spoiler-free
< 1372110936 673618 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o!!!
< 1372110943 276816 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i warn you
< 1372110947 32260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty bullshit
< 1372110953 245918 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's the game
< 1372110968 600900 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372110971 124009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just hold down right
< 1372110981 878032 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: see, that's why it's 12.
< 1372110988 473614 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'll bump it up to 13 for being misleading.
< 1372110992 81744 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :take note elliott
< 1372111112 514873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372111119 961671 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's maybe 3 worst then
< 1372111141 701090 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the timer
< 1372111147 666841 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one's like 10 worst
< 1372111162 84431 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible
< 1372111306 420393 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow i hate this game and i'm not even playing it"
< 1372111311 256113 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me far too long to mute the stream
< 1372111318 669960 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this guy is more of a masochist than i am"
< 1372111374 969727 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much of a masochist are you
< 1372111379 879376 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to work
< 1372111396 405679 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the jumps
< 1372111523 312757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have i done to deserve this
< 1372111543 451378 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made me read about functors being boxes that one time.
< 1372111558 883061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :functor? i hardly know 'er!
< 1372111561 690517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will see himself out.

< 1372111609 976086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :must stay calm
< 1372111648 286931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that there's literally a time out on pausing
< 1372111651 508838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt' let you pause too often
< 1372111681 883926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok 5min break
< 1372111683 442269 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1372111693 854447 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats!!
< 1372111805 619091 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but it gives you infinite restarts
< 1372111807 222694 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it
< 1372111810 579786 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it..........
< 1372111829 34686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-130617-obama-putin-meeting.photoblog900.jpg
< 1372111903 259941 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it does
< 1372111922 629135 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, read that as 'obama put in meeting'
< 1372111943 939518 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1372112032 973515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im back
< 1372112042 997278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes
< 1372112103 433355 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are not splaying
< 1372112110 744400 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see only black
< 1372112133 853110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of my viewers are mutinying
< 1372112159 876061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used templates having lines line {{Template:{{{1}}}|num=0|name=NROM|disc=Discrete|who=Nintendo|prgrom=32768}} in some MediaWiki but does Wikipedia or Esolang wiki uses it or anything else you have done anything like this?
< 1372112162 672881 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see
< 1372112163 818209 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything
< 1372112176 729701 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there's nothing playing.
< 1372112367 871261 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is: unacceptable
< 1372112380 659118 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION crosses arms, nods

< 1372112460 432757 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm disappointed
< 1372112522 682191 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy now???
< 1372112527 681597 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you
< 1372112530 161426 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make that yourself
< 1372112535 477270 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372112543 710977 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the alternative, see
< 1372112544 721512 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg good
< 1372112546 235565 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good
< 1372112548 708153 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic
< 1372112552 679211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's interesting about templates like that
< 1372112553 460289 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so good
< 1372112562 514388 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that you found a banner with 'intemrisision' written on it
< 1372112568 766457 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't know which is stupider
< 1372112583 338591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using $500 broadcasting software
< 1372112586 636183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets me do great things like this
< 1372112622 596513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Look at http://ifwiki.org/index.php/List_of_Z-machine_interpreters to see how it can be used.
< 1372112668 798844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty nice zzo38
< 1372112728 578988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia has a lot of those sorts of tables but I don't know what kind of templates they us
< 1372112731 560584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e
< 1372112761 190291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does Z-machine piracy check work
< 1372112773 123572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :behold
< 1372112790 527765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It is unspecified.
< 1372112799 895007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How can it be implemented, then?
< 1372112817 187368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own interpreter just uses a command-line parameter to decide whether it is genuine or not.
< 1372112822 446408 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god it's back help
< 1372112835 481797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, no existing Z-machine games even use that anyways.)
< 1372112839 354436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so this is like the Evil Bit in IP then
< 1372112878 537964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this level is 5,000,000 bad
< 1372112879 273366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi
< 1372112887 693374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fweep does it by if you specified -p switch then it assumes it is pirated and if you don't specify -p then it assumes it is genuine.)
< 1372112890 486162 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which level `i wasn't watching'
< 1372112892 12531 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the bad->worst unit conversion.
< 1372112893 739675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this level
< 1372112894 873210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ready
< 1372112897 512994 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ready.
< 1372112899 56512 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is 30 worst
< 1372112900 713228 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm NOT joking
< 1372112902 910098 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im redy
< 1372112919 388946 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not ready
< 1372112928 501418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I suppose it might be something like that.
< 1372112939 334817 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this level is a lot easier than it was when nooodl did it
< 1372112942 99992 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :500 worst
< 1372112942 743431 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see your point.
< 1372113051 641423 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how with every retry you get ever further from success
< 1372113052 518516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only Z-machine program I know that even uses the piracy check is CZECH, which is used to test if the Z-machine interpreter is working properly. Fweep passes 100%, unless -p is specified in which case it fails that test but still continues running; it just logs the failure and then reports at the end that one test failed.
< 1372113103 78923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjsfojortgfdvcoij m
< 1372113179 508431 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you're going to get past this level this side of heat death
< 1372113205 951732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyy
< 1372113218 486976 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :intermeseinos
< 1372113340 852933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is recommended that an interpreter assume the game disc is genuine by default, and my interpreters do this too. No games use it; nevertheless, you could write a game that uses it in order to shorten the game if the game disc is pirated; you could use this to make a short demo version using the same story file, in case some players want to play the short version, or if you are providing it on a telnet server and want to sell the full version.
< 1372113450 652745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should move to sf in a cube like kmc instead of doing this
< 1372113488 6471 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cube action 2
< 1372113519 139447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372113546 54652 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like cube action 2 but 3d.
< 1372113555 749891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cube action 2 is very like cube action 2, yes
< 1372113555 963318 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you warp the intermissions picture
< 1372113563 703266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the guy dropped it off today he said "think tetris"
< 1372113565 618811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true story
< 1372113579 499492 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's this story about
< 1372113641 609595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes
< 1372113700 16207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about my cube
< 1372113714 171678 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a euphemism
< 1372113774 735015 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: you were so right
< 1372113786 109028 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about what
< 1372113791 51270 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been 24 minutes
< 1372113796 830641 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unbelievable
< 1372113797 796265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dot action 2
< 1372113842 584098 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo play more so it takes less time
< 1372113864 474535 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the run
< 1372113872 619536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :preparing myself, mentally and physically
< 1372113899 40083 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining a montage of elliott doing push ups
< 1372113912 271510 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just let out the most ungodly noise
< 1372113935 224234 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :transcribe it for us (ps we really need mic commentary)
< 1372113935 986322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott pushup montage
< 1372113949 309271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make fun of me kmc
< 1372113997 30692 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :auguhhh
< 1372113997 462697 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the first attempt went really well
< 1372114003 766558 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know exactly how elliott feels now......
< 1372114034 839330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372114241 263165 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving.
< 1372114242 633129 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1372114258 81923 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to link to the turkish star wars training montage but i don't know how to make it relevnat
< 1372114260 306962 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*relevant
< 1372114270 612620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkish star wars is the best
< 1372114282 935380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even remember that montage and yet I know it's the best
< 1372114359 611660 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saOSPjm8cX0
< 1372114368 765937 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's another version but it is inferior!)
< 1372114386 486411 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it has push it to the limit in place of the original soundtrack and the quality isn't as shitty)
< 1372114596 917941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: did you ever work out time <-> seconds
< 1372114614 259101 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a frame thing presumably?
< 1372114634 248814 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no
< 1372114642 306407 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i estimate it's about 1/3 second = 1 time
< 1372114654 964127 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 1/4 ratehr
< 1372114760 741805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the trick for the last part again...
< 1372114765 418888 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no trick :-)
< 1372114773 228127 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is suffering hth
< 1372114774 175237 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what are you supposed to even do, I've forgotten
< 1372114805 787590 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jump from the very edge of the thing
< 1372114818 669898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but the water...
< 1372114865 546861 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just see itnemrisision
< 1372114910 978823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372114912 506676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm preparing
< 1372114944 423706 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the push-ups thing was a joke elliott!
< 1372114949 447305 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i don't think it's even possible
< 1372114952 131960 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pause this long
< 1372114955 632325 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be in the flow
< 1372114971 439404 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're gonna unpause and it'll be like Whoa
< 1372114976 247271 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'll mess it up
< 1372114976 471352 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BlogNomic, currently you can get points by coming up with a theorem that you can prove, but nobody else can prove.
< 1372114997 411211 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I took two huge prime numbers, multiplied them together, posted the result, and asserted that that number is composite.
< 1372115010 621917 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh
< 1372115042 671761 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to publicize your proof?
< 1372115057 89047 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would defeat the point wouldn't it
< 1372115058 827523 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do, but once you do, nobody else can submit a proof.
< 1372115080 105155 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you have to wait 48 hours before submitting a proof.
< 1372115092 819879 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something something zero-knowledge
< 1372115104 264263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't there primality tests though?
< 1372115109 687320 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone could run a primality test on it and show that it's not prime
< 1372115123 631453 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: true, but nobody has done that.
< 1372115128 643940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the idea is that modern encryption algorithms are based on multiplying huge primes isn't it?
< 1372115134 933370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever.
< 1372115150 351408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and factoring the result is difficult
< 1372115154 78204 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell a number isn't prime without actually finding its factors i guess
< 1372115174 286893 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the idea is that the product of two really big prime numbers is hard to factor.
< 1372115180 741930 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think all the efficient primality tests are probabilistic?
< 1372115181 838001 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Read error: No route to host
< 1372115184 586202 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that this fact is used in encryption is just sort of a side effect.
< 1372115195 958026 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthere's a fast algorithm to check if a numberis prime
< 1372115200 183741 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :withouut factoring
< 1372115217 362818 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think that all of the common primality tests can tell you with certainty that a number is composite.
< 1372115227 56341 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372115234 701979 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah AKS is assured
< 1372115244 33410 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's factoring that's hard
< 1372115261 283504 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, if the number is prime, it's guaranteed to say "the number may be prime", but if it's composite, there's a 25% chance it says "the number may be prime" and a 75% chance it says "the number is definitely composite".
< 1372115263 682385 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIMES is in P maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
< 1372115677 790520 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.javascripter.net/math/primes/millerrabinprimalitytest.htm says it's composite~~
< 1372115739 208338 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do those ~s even mean
< 1372115747 916211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript seems like... not the ideal thing to do heavy arithmetic with
< 1372115749 351028 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying "" in a really sarcastic tone
< 1372115790 308518 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they mean like tildes
< 1372115791 813553 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth.
< 1372115822 158453 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me what they mean once.
< 1372115833 869597 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they indicate some certain thing.
< 1372115851 127094 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, something related to something, or whatever. Like, when the one thing happens, then you use ~~ to indicate that.
< 1372115877 853912 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that, like, it's not really a thing that happens; it's really, like, the sort of thing that *could* happen, if the people were talking face to face.
< 1372115885 121539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1372115899 604060 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you know, like, when, uh... yeah, that.
< 1372115945 901903 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you high
< 1372115960 182602 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very unlikely.
< 1372115981 242194 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's extremely unlikely. Or maybe not, depending on how you define "high".
< 1372116080 709714 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg 24 time
< 1372116081 467966 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :luxury
< 1372116093 918796 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1372116160 902487 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP
< 1372116178 893869 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when i did exactly that and i had it 3-4 tries later though!
< 1372116282 178968 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow, the miller rabin primalitytest takes a long time if it's a probable prime
< 1372116302 373539 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1372116311 145513 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :35844088534668175608533550469325416140711880836358433520741183341559409752958417564900205152763659819317338304041228758958269744936094178001500112469790418773135543301899194065881801585777676220908369 tswett: yours isn't prime but this one is, I think!
< 1372116317 112665 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you try and do cryptography with something that looks prime
< 1372116354 38405 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did tswett actually say the number?
< 1372116356 497502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't see it

< 1372116362 610159 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is tswett's number
< 1372116363 610045 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I guess I didn't.
< 1372116369 129219 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it is, with muchos espacios:
< 1372116376 510424 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :35 844 088 534 668 175 608 533 550 469 325 416 140 711 880 836 358 433 520 741 183 341 559 409 752 958 417 564 900 205 152 763 659 819 317 338 304 041 228 758 958 269 744 936 094 178 001 500 112 469 790 418 773 135 543 301 899 194 065 881 801 585 777 676 220 908 841
< 1372116396 633884 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" FFT-based multiplication can push the running time down to O(k log2n log log n log log log n)" logs are officically the worst
< 1372116396 937662 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what you're thinking. That's not a number, that's sixty-seven numbers!
< 1372116397 134615 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice spaces
< 1372116421 110510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's log² n, i gues
< 1372116425 694468 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really don't understand how algorithms end up being O(log log n)
< 1372116428 923684 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, you could just ask them to prove that the digit sum of the factors is 
< 1372116435 692472 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what's k here?
< 1372116453 653973 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: or that it has a factor in a certain specific range.
< 1372116468 594032 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The number of different values of a that we test"
< 1372116473 403998 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_rabin#Algorithm_and_running_time behold.
< 1372116486 472079 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what's your BYOND-related question?
< 1372116504 817516 :tswett!~quassel@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bring your own nondeterminism?
< 1372116517 970782 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: already rendered irrelevant
< 1372116529 765503 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the deterministic version is down the page a bit. it sucks
< 1372116532 819725 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Sgeo likes it so it's probably nostalgic in some capacity
< 1372116559 811270 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to ask if I needed to download anything to play space station 13
< 1372116562 752896 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer is apparently yes.
< 1372116569 637756 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BYOND client
< 1372116580 583016 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Called "Dream Seeker"
< 1372116599 661771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All resources for the game itself should be automatically downloaded by the client when you connect
< 1372116603 82728 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading the blognomic post. what's this whole list nonsense
< 1372116611 380952 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you obfuscate it for "fun"....
< 1372116616 507101 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An HTML5 BYOND client would be cool
< 1372116629 316085 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although would presumably need a proxy
< 1372116771 83309 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long have you been playing this elliott
< 1372116814 732516 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this level: one hour with breaks hth
< 1372117451 524874 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1372117459 334308 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck this, i'm watching apocalypse now
< 1372117480 669794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good movie imo
< 1372117526 982273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you watching the 3½ hour extended edition
< 1372117532 340604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen that
< 1372117578 78081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear the making-of documentary _Hearts of Darkness_ is also very good
< 1372117600 189717 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372117608 58231 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372117624 288504 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is the linux byond client functional
< 1372117749 917677 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372117798 57020 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1372117816 402761 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i don't think i am
< 1372117819 198574 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i'm not
< 1372117840 567997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should imo
< 1372117846 544675 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... am not going to finish this tonight though
< 1372118077 718754 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp, i'm torrenting it instead
< 1372118103 652605 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, can apocalypse now in any way be compared to elliott's dot action 2 travails
< 1372118145 635887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot say
< 1372118250 185260 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apocalypse now has a better soundtrack
< 1372118259 799718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a v. good soundtrack
< 1372118552 968601 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: does the byond on linux work, also why does SS13 say windows only help
< 1372118830 14342 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372118941 955453 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1372118960 783926 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulation elliott 
< 1372119017 930168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet armikrog will have a v. good soundtrack if it manages to get >$200,000 in the next 63 hours
< 1372119104 226589 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you'd be better off doing that in #moremoneythansense
< 1372119111 876709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a r. channel
< 1372119124 720548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d. w. j. u. a. n.?
< 1372119135 281282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ.
< 1372119148 373989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙭ.
< 1372119182 979218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ꙭ.
< 1372119207 417948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙭ + ꙭ + ꙭ + ꙩ = ꙮ
< 1372119262 228785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiocular O doesn't have majiscule and miniscule versions?
< 1372119269 677918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :majuscule*
< 1372119291 65772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can there be a multiocular o that isn't majuscule
< 1372119293 356549 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, a non-graphical version works on Linux
< 1372119295 942365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know
< 1372119317 338684 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in theory you can play if you don't mind just letters, I _think_. Also depends how well the game supports that mode
< 1372119340 818170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind just letters, but the unjust ones (like w) are a problem.
< 1372119353 611247 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is the point of that.
< 1372119387 71151 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could be misremembering
< 1372119408 961512 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, if a game doesn't support it, I think the letters default to being based off internal names of the types
< 1372119419 279425 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. /turf/grass might show up as g
< 1372119420 276432 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc
< 1372119446 143599 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This could all be obsolete, incidentally
< 1372119453 824724 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WINE is probably a better bet
< 1372119495 999979 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there's a builtin HTML renderer, I don't know if that uses IE rendering engine internally
< 1372119553 464710 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ueueugh there goes any hope of playing it
< 1372119570 564462 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WINE doesn't have a mock IE layout engine?
< 1372119591 75836 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372119639 412765 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wine won't work for me.
< 1372119731 235632 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :(
< 1372119866 81625 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
< 1372121100 158180 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 QUIT :Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared!
< 1372121478 839352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: today i saw a laptop with a screen on the lid
< 1372121486 49394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo what's going on with that
< 1372121498 43526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird
< 1372121499 749877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did it do
< 1372121527 557996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it showed things
< 1372121528 981330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly pixels
< 1372121547 645314 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was this: http://www.asus.com/vivo/en/taichi.htm
< 1372121585 12411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun
< 1372121627 181765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i saw windows 8 "more like weirdos 8"
< 1372121631 694573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that it's weird
< 1372121674 299124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of windows 3.11
< 1372121844 492 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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< 1372121998 128479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :area man not in fact an idiot
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< 1372122310 440034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1372122316 686889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Area Man Still Has Voice
< 1372122379 32812 :hiato!~hiato@41-133-149-15.dsl.mweb.co.za QUIT :Quit: Nothing so gives the illusion of intelligence as personal association with large sums.
< 1372122424 102599 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you ever get the feeling that sometimes The Onion's goal is to trick people into thinking that it's real, rather than to poke fun at stuff?
< 1372122430 843290 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least some articles seem like that
< 1372122474 32832 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/markets-in-turmoil-as-price-of-money-skyrockets-to,32939/   This one was great, I think
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< 1372124131 184544 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372124670 281504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trouble with Rust is that half the code you find is so outdated that it's a syntax error.
< 1372124739 838531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that better or worse than Haskell, where half the code you find is an import or type error
< 1372124816 615028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372124821 867720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1372124840 610838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i manage to use int::range :'(
< 1372124898 44088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask future kmc
< 1372124904 744179 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll be a rust expert!!
< 1372124956 665957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can future kmc be a time machine expert instead
< 1372125003 48776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would prefer both
< 1372126403 918359 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372126793 452565 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1372127207 550135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: someone on #haskell mentioned the idea of doing a simple-as-possible translation of core/stg/cmm/whatever to lua
< 1372127210 586877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can luajit it
< 1372127213 454382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372127217 260796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do that, report back w/ findings
< 1372127226 930748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm.lua
< 1372127244 857805 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping you would do it so I wouldn't have to :(
< 1372127250 872470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't want to
< 1372127268 392283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :harsh
< 1372127273 792467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fair
< 1372127291 556909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: p. sure you'll find that anything that involves elliott doing more work is unfair
< 1372127305 36467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: <#haskell person> imageine 
< 1372127319 216737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error
< 1372127336 512959 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've always wanted tail calls in html.
< 1372127465 318853 :surma_!uid6361@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372127545 77038 :surma!uid6361@c-base/crew/surma QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1372127546 743071 :surma_!uid6361@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host
< 1372127546 764011 :surma_!uid6361@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dxxqnqdixcpypcru JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372127597 296089 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372127601 327173 :surma_!uid6361@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dxxqnqdixcpypcru NICK :surma
< 1372127650 81292 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372127675 605702 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The channel for "special" people |"
< 1372127681 143374 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define "special"
< 1372127687 721817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you define it
< 1372127693 571667 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spec anal
< 1372127699 327971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome RainbowUnicorn
< 1372127700 150015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1372127703 148438 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06RainbowUnico03rn: W12elcome to the13 international 09h14ub for05 eso02te07ric prog14ra12mming09 language design and deployment!03 For more informat06ion, ch05eck out14 our wiki: http://03esolangs.org/wiki03/13Main_Page12. (For 05the09 other 10kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on02 14irc.12d10a03l.net.)
< 1372127704 77226 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-59-69.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 274 seconds
< 1372127813 349554 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see
< 1372127824 585472 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1372127828 811605 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here know brainfuck?
< 1372127836 255347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of us
< 1372127840 47386 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody here knows brainfuck.
< 1372127843 787314 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O
< 1372127850 928467 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1372127853 590964 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it hard?
< 1372127859 365297 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking at it
< 1372127861 601012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that hard compared to many esoteric languages
< 1372127870 846937 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's pretty easy to learn.
< 1372127877 944889 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool
< 1372127878 427002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck isn't really designed to be difficult, so much as designed to be very simple and have a simple compiler
< 1372127878 693011 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen !bf_txtgen
< 1372127882 308084 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​109 +++++++++++[>+++>+++++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>.>-.++++.>----.+++++++++++++++++++++.++++.----.<+.--.>------.>-. [344]
< 1372127900 673743 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :..?
< 1372127901 344307 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't actually write programs that do useful things in brainfuck
< 1372127905 51295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust !bf_txtgen
< 1372127905 246987 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust   . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/
< 1372127909 462997 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you can't do that.
< 1372127911 423010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or useless things. truly, I am a fraud
< 1372127913 940034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's difficult because there are so few concepts in the language, but those concepts are pretty familiar ones for most programmers
< 1372127933 253910 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool
< 1372127939 454299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Bike's command actually just generated a program that outputs "!bf_txtgen", there's no nesting of commands in EgoBot
< 1372127944 665090 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1372127949 783918 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i;m creative
< 1372127950 48502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i heard that 98% of programmers die when they hear the word "pointer" though
< 1372127958 181072 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how would you do: int a, int b, int c = a+b
< 1372127960 230758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have also heard
< 1372127962 802674 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then output int c
< 1372127964 989004 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would change my nick to "TwilightSpockle"
< 1372127966 62145 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :But alas
< 1372127967 526574 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @run (@run text "2 + 2")
< 1372127969 91050 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4
< 1372127969 197299 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the lazy.
< 1372127974 259046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot does command nesting though!
< 1372127977 250431 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RainbowUnicorn: that's not legal c even. i couldn't guess
< 1372127983 415162 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to do addition in bf sounds really difficult...
< 1372127984 623427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RainbowUnicorn: if you google "brainfuck addition" you will find many results
< 1372127987 711974 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in brainfuck
< 1372127990 325363 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: nah it's not that bad
< 1372127994 239531 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok
< 1372127997 801046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you decrement one cell and increment the other in a loop
< 1372128001 373516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms <-- our fine page on the subject
< 1372128008 818104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it destroys the first value
< 1372128009 698057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that our only pge on the subject
< 1372128010 356973 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that only works if your numbers fit in 8-bit, right?
< 1372128013 946791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372128015 578409 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then, like, you'll somehow have to print it
< 1372128029 296010 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah decimal conversion is... a lot more difficult
< 1372128029 526457 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what's the cell size ot to do with it
< 1372128050 404593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though not particularly long given http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#Divmod_algorithm, probably
< 1372128206 882959 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o
< 1372128220 93771 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, i might actually learn this language
< 1372128286 578046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun
< 1372128296 296171 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1372128305 210786 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks... interesting
< 1372128315 193791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck has kind of a poor reputation here because of the number of people who make a trivial variation on brainfuck and try to pass it off as a new interesting esolang
< 1372128319 910265 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell us if you find the shortest way to print out 28187
< 1372128328 685892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but brainfuck itself is a fine language
< 1372128336 307262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"teach yourself brainfuck in 31 seconds"
< 1372128374 908340 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^?
< 1372128392 971166 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke
< 1372128399 764495 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok
< 1372128415 609460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"teach yourself drugz in 31 seconds"
< 1372128421 659896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(drugz joke)
< 1372128424 713869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RainbowUnicorn: other esolangs I recommend checking out: Befunge, Unlambda, Lazy K, Piet
< 1372128431 453893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :others here can suggest a lot more
< 1372128431 768788 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably you've seen "Teach yourself C++ in 21 days" or "Teach yourself Prolog in 24 hours" sorts of books
< 1372128433 593108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know why I laughed
< 1372128449 681797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because drugz jokes are funny
< 1372128456 297749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should add Underload to your list
< 1372128473 377378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RainbowUnicorn: you might also like BF Joust which is a 2-player programming game based on Brainfuck: http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust
< 1372128475 578999 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah underload is good.
< 1372128482 127718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't a statement about what you should tell people so much as a statement that you should become an underload fan because it's great
< 1372128484 667235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has very deep strategy http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies
< 1372128546 786058 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is back now

< 1372128560 43994 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just looking through the algorithm thing for BF
< 1372128562 832481 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat
< 1372128572 562154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Eodermdrome is another interesting, unimplemented lang
< 1372128670 152933 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1372128673 15017 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes now

< 1372128677 366834 :RainbowUnicorn!~znc@unaffiliated/iam4722202468 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1372128692 771609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`goodbye
< 1372128694 325572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: goodbye: not found
< 1372128699 250388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :roodbye
< 1372128700 423638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rudebye
< 1372128704 81689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh... what are the odds on them coming back
< 1372128706 20872 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372128712 94990 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say six
< 1372128725 837558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :six over pi squared
< 1372128728 583601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uhh
< 1372128733 844864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: those are evens
< 1372128739 672490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you meant five or seven
< 1372128760 462032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy
< 1372128777 436766 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372128784 309290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372128928 315965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: where even "hi" is a complicated in-joke
< 1372129044 899806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: your + balances out your name really well
< 1372129049 547394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you should know
< 1372129084 401806 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372129118 293515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo kmc should be dethroned
< 1372129120 613376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and devoiced
< 1372129128 710227 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I like listening to his voice
< 1372129144 591648 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑
< 1372129287 486106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa. I have no idea what kmc's voice sounds like. I have no idea what kmc looks like
< 1372129294 946827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think kmc looks basically like edwardk in my head
< 1372129303 219548 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what edwardk looks like
< 1372129329 366014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume he's tall and vaguely imposing
< 1372129368 481207 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ mushrooms growing in hair and shirt
< 1372129377 5584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bike is standing next to him and resting on his shoulder or something
< 1372129388 236985 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and elliott is jumping up and down waving his hands, trying to get kmc's attention
< 1372129396 535589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kmc is so tall he can't see him
< 1372129405 495420 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I truly have no idea where I'm going here
< 1372129429 316020 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i think this is accurate
< 1372129445 680736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: kmc doesn't look very like edwardk at all
< 1372129451 150565 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm hiding behind bike.  I tink.
< 1372129452 283296 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*think
< 1372129462 262608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/very //
< 1372129475 149521 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad i'm basically made of skin and plastic and don't cover much area.
< 1372129490 877549 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have more forward-facing surface area than me!
< 1372129532 573966 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could be wearing a wind breaker to make sure you're hidden.
< 1372129549 434020 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9c51a8b8afa2366a2ef4650c411f187a?s=420&d=https://a248.e.akamai.net/assets.github.com%2Fimages%2Fgravatars%2Fgravatar-user-420.png edwardk
< 1372129554 689618 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could also present myself as large to deter predators, and envelop prey/cute girls possibly.
< 1372129558 976035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note "420" in the URL, proof that it's also kmc
< 1372129617 119084 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :y-you're just trying to get me flustered now <.<
< 1372129636 716762 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe.
< 1372129688 958746 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :biiiiike >///<
< 1372129732 7892 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do want to go around monster-ing people like a lizard now, though.
< 1372129763 421716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any pictures of kmc on the internet
< 1372129776 376237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. not
< 1372129809 681099 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty not??
< 1372129810 876003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"p. not"...
< 1372129831 378208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"probably not"
< 1372129835 569753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on disambiguate a little
< 1372129839 257740 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you can't do that.
< 1372129862 197694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i p. can
< 1372129865 944950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure no one will stop me
< 1372129884 67056 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1372129889 460015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372129959 868513 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bike which parts of you are plastic o_O
< 1372129965 642385 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like where did the plastic comment come from
< 1372130020 22631 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pretty much imagine myself as looking like http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090812195141/half-life/en/images/4/40/Stalker_ep1.jpg
< 1372130053 566304 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.<
< 1372130074 979584 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :betcha can't prove me wrong
< 1372130101 474025 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372130180 385452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh yeah, in which axiom system
< 1372130215 350576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well he's a bicycle
< 1372130221 818852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they generally contain plastic parts I think
< 1372130222 385226 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a bicycle is not good for hiding behind
< 1372130224 187761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you a bicycle
< 1372130241 538628 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ye.
< 1372130242 12044 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still geez.   you're pretty huge I thought <.<
< 1372130246 470557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i thought you were human
< 1372130253 720512 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm humankin.
< 1372130257 240512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just used the nick Bike on irc
< 1372130268 961730 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said you were like 5'11" or soething.  that's a pretty big bike
< 1372130276 406024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't look that much like edwardk
< 1372130281 714557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have short hair and i'm not as big
< 1372130283 874426 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bicycle built for nine~
< 1372130293 769963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet Bike is a victorian bicycle
< 1372130307 602177 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a penny farthing? i'm not that old fashioned.
< 1372130316 393076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that
< 1372130328 686833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like penny farting
< 1372130329 968250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk has short hair
< 1372130333 405345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he
< 1372130337 243934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have poor memory
< 1372130340 565200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :any hair shorter than mine is short
< 1372130340 899592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought he had, like, a ponytail
< 1372130342 560023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: he shaved his beard
< 1372130347 282587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372130348 767520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and removed a lot of hair
< 1372130352 119150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have to be a long ponytail to count
< 1372130356 870678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of it is back now
< 1372130373 809742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think of myself as looking like a pretty stereotypical programmer... kinda pudgy white guy wearing a tshirt and cargo pants
< 1372130389 928299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when i saw you i thought you were unusual looking
< 1372130392 532742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't anymore wear t-shirts with sassy nerd slogans on them, just plain black
< 1372130415 642543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't have facial hair and I'm not super fat or greasy (opinions may differ on this)
< 1372130424 922188 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picture shachaf as being tall and skinny and I think having blond hair. I have no idea why
< 1372130427 561833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to wear tie dye more often
< 1372130436 749718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I've seen a pic of shachaf online
< 1372130454 651740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :inb4 shachaf links to that pic that isn't actually a pic.
< 1372130457 944760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i had blond hair until i was 3 or so does that count
< 1372130466 576186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh good idea thanks for reminding me
< 1372130475 484721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how does that work
< 1372130486 425740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look like this: http://slbkbs.org/sb/1.png
< 1372130497 421324 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD
< 1372130504 224571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow slbkbs.org, so last year. I thought it was all shachaf.net now
< 1372130517 22717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no hebrew IDN??
< 1372130522 70455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not sure
< 1372130555 239047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think there are pictures of me online from when i was 6..........
< 1372130610 543719 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i look like a stereotypical programmer except for being a long bike covered in slime and other organic compounds
< 1372130610 974736 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wears rectangular-ish black framed glasses, has long straight black hair with bangs, and usually wears a shirt with a sweater or maybe a light jacket and a casual skirt with tights?

< 1372130650 902862 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1372130674 30985 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372130767 798086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: where does the slime come from...
< 1372130780 840924 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i became a biologist to find out
< 1372130787 324330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what did you think was unusual about me
< 1372130811 953266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not sure
< 1372130828 73039 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372130836 123461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372130954 920146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :appearance bandwagon submission: I look boring
< 1372130999 642769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you have super long hair?
< 1372131030 575501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually super long
< 1372131032 795461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it used to be
< 1372131035 848070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it's pretty long
< 1372131053 468161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm incredibly thin
< 1372131074 467645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to have longer hair than i do now
< 1372131099 116165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people told me i was a p. girl a lot at the time
< 1372131106 765872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"p. girl"........
< 1372131108 898698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now they don't tell me i'm p. :'(
< 1372131253 889914 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hair cutting? D:
< 1372131256 7023 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's definition of boring actually means "adorable"
< 1372131256 263428 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who would ever do that
< 1372131257 29731 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :=x=
< 1372131279 63163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: am i boring
< 1372131287 312450 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, except to maintain a hairstyle D:
< 1372131295 199408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what I mean when I call Bike boring!
< 1372131297 313402 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1372131302 690036 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as far as I am aware I have never called Bike boring.)
< 1372131329 943328 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372131351 230114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric/2013-04-07.txt:05:26:16:  you're boring, Bike
< 1372131368 426770 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:29 < elliott> appearance bandwagon submission: I look boring
< 1372131373 262485 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going by that
< 1372131383 536566 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with both quoted messages
< 1372131422 884667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you hurt me, Bike :'(
< 1372131428 154455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: /set show_nickmode_empty off
< 1372131446 145720 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: never
< 1372131520 645379 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how adorable am i
< 1372131548 120524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ⅝ hth
< 1372131555 939416 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372131558 287389 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh
< 1372131801 347569 :augur!~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372132194 677245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yawn

< 1372133189 197852 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yawns with elliott 

< 1372133220 736452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: stop living in america time hth
< 1372133253 745711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time is it in america
< 1372133261 792780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :various
< 1372133269 139691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :freedom o'clock
< 1372133274 720344 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime america
< 1372133275 243381 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for America is Tue Jun 25 13:07:51 2013
< 1372133290 301119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=America/New_York date
< 1372133291 686989 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tue Jun 25 00:08:11 EDT 2013
< 1372133299 46421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=America/Los_Angeles date
< 1372133300 750657 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mon Jun 24 21:08:20 PDT 2013
< 1372133303 423382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Fiora
< 1372133303 901452 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Fiora is Mon Jun 24 21:08:23 2013
< 1372133304 935124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Bike
< 1372133306 70656 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Bike is Mon Jun 24 21:08:25 2013
< 1372133309 139570 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time kmc
< 1372133309 469883 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for kmc is Tue Jun 25 00:08:29 2013
< 1372133314 661224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa.
< 1372133315 34617 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so america is in like, india or something? cool
< 1372133319 626602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time shachaf
< 1372133320 846642 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa what
< 1372133323 6208 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Mon Jun 24 21:08:39 2013
< 1372133326 722734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=America/Anchorage date
< 1372133328 118418 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mon Jun 24 20:08:47 AKDT 2013
< 1372133331 141707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion: kmc isn't in America
< 1372133334 298659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=America/Honolulu date
< 1372133335 764294 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tue Jun 25 04:08:55 America 2013
< 1372133338 635502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eff
< 1372133342 789784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=America/Phoenix date
< 1372133344 309861 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mon Jun 24 21:09:03 MST 2013
< 1372133359 130675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well hawaii doesn't even begin to count if you ask me.
< 1372133364 923724 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=Canada/Newfoundland date
< 1372133366 463435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tue Jun 25 01:39:25 NDT 2013
< 1372133372 13147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even get to 2. starts at 1, goes nowhere. no counting
< 1372133373 451640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey we stole it fair and square
< 1372133377 898340 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good time zone imo
< 1372133393 929068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=Oceania/Honolulu date
< 1372133395 662075 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tue Jun 25 04:09:55 Oceania 2013
< 1372133397 778913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1372133399 293322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this
< 1372133400 151311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :noise
< 1372133421 618775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhhh. it's ok kmc
< 1372133421 886410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime lambdabot
< 1372133421 978326 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time?
< 1372133433 697837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=Pacific/Honolulu date
< 1372133433 752794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot lives in London
< 1372133435 515312 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mon Jun 24 18:10:34 HST 2013
< 1372133444 775352 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop ruining my immersion elliott
< 1372133450 88558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: we're at war with oceania
< 1372133451 691126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly kmc
< 1372133830 868475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1372133917 602480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the real time is 5 am.
< 1372134318 515001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run TZ=elliott date
< 1372134320 73726 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tue Jun 25 04:25:19 elliott 2013
< 1372134326 322245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRONG
< 1372134393 122170 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTVcKNx8Rk
< 1372134917 221811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i wish i had learned rust really well a long time ago but then forgot most of it
< 1372134921 915658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i could say i'm rusty
< 1372134945 854979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably the first rust pun everyone makes "but oh well"
< 1372134977 663532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it looks like it's p. nice and also like it's p. p. immature
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< 1372137216 682154 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
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< 1372137845 503062 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk
< 1372138611 467069 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur_
< 1372138625 898332 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur
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< 1372141179 937333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok you convinced me
< 1372141298 329411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of?
< 1372141310 99425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: doing the luajit thing
< 1372141328 922700 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least thinking that I should do either that or one of the two other things I think I should be doing without actually doing any of them
< 1372141340 101943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372141353 659159 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1: delegation
< 1372141360 795617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: would cmm or stg be better to turn into lua
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< 1372141609 244250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that depends hth
< 1372141687 20496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did not help.
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< 1372142947 575648 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:47  * shachaf heard a rumour rust was nearly stable...
< 1372142951 215263 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:47 < dbaupp> shachaf: heard wrong ;)
< 1372142951 236054 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:47 < aatch> shachaf, you heard wrong.
< 1372143319 964498 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-193-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
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< 1372147489 296194 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
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< 1372149161 580421 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1372149608 471635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: /set show_nickmode_empty off
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< 1372151630 631359 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or don't
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< 1372151806 628243 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: the joke is 04:37:08  Fiora: /set show_nickmode_empty off
< 1372151834 602268 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, carry on
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< 1372156596 752988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The channel for "ordinary" people | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
< 1372156654 25219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel for "scare quoted" people | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
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< 1372166007 969868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel for "scare quoted" people | where even "hi" is a complicated in-joke | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
< 1372166053 149504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw codu logs are back up
< 1372166057 537860 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should fix the topic and then op kmc, hth
< 1372166094 557793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people keep drowning me in heaps of work
< 1372166135 416852 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could delegate some of it to kmc, hth
< 1372166140 531258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel for "scare quoted" people | where even "hi" is a complicated in-joke | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric and http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
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< 1372166955 862503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so america is in like, india or something? cool <-- japan, it seems
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< 1372175298 797210 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Semen_Dickman 
< 1372175305 516256 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04Semen_Dick13man06: Welcom10e to the 05international hub for esoteric progr05amming l09an07guage 08desi06gn and04 d11ep13lo08ym03ent! For more infor08mation, check out our wiki: http://12esolangs.or04g/wiki04/14Main_Page. (For the ot14h12er 14kind of esote05r07ica, try #es03oter10ic on irc.da05l.net.)
< 1372175389 968809 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??????????????????????????
< 1372175403 716966 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: hi
< 1372175409 670059 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372176557 792479 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MTHR FUCK
< 1372176565 294630 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUICK YOU ALL STIUPID LOSERS
< 1372176623 499331 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi.
< 1372176703 543912 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372176733 259335 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semen_Dickman: That's kind of rude
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< 1372176797 714356 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nzrbjdblufnvvsbr QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded
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< 1372176837 884333 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semen_Dickman: you sound like you could use a cookie. and an anger management class
< 1372176941 964033 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372176953 430821 :iamcal____!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lchuzhrddmgdoxlq JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372177046 116678 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: and a typing class, possibly
< 1372177090 627356 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: i was assuming the misspellings were intentional
< 1372177105 809760 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never know.
< 1372177162 556225 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all Semen_Dickman needs is a bit of love and some care
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< 1372177212 286755 :iamcal____!uid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lchuzhrddmgdoxlq NICK :iamcal___
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< 1372177278 270155 :ion_!ion@heh.fi NICK :ion
< 1372177297 677522 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen flack
< 1372177303 126837 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lately; try `seen flack ever
< 1372177310 870926 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen flack ever
< 1372177341 886179 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1372177666 505374 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nickname semen dickman let me think he gets a lot of love... from himself
< 1372177764 221170 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT KINDA MOTEHR BUCKING GAY CHAT IS THIS FUCK
< 1372177778 551188 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY ANY WAY I DIPPED MY COMPUTER IN MY TOILET
< 1372177781 264035 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW IT NOT WORKING
< 1372177782 811362 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I NEED HELP
< 1372177794 377294 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried in #toilets?
< 1372177800 390045 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you definitly do
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< 1372177879 512410 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY SERIOUSLY I  WANT THIS FUCKER GOING PLEASE HELP ME
< 1372177926 224668 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, people love to help people yelling at them
< 1372177930 667167 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, totally
< 1372177939 759987 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :insert obligatory hth here
< 1372177941 476484 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-puwtevhrvkjhjzqa QUIT :Excess Flood
< 1372177965 187764 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbpevddunpqrpfbp JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372178915 147598 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.virtualshackles.com/421
< 1372178929 711821 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric means what?
< 1372178964 21463 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372178986 156332 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the best way to fuck a nugger?
< 1372178991 966467 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go away
< 1372179006 268390 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With consent?
< 1372179006 523620 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: You’re just feeding it. Ignore them and they’ll get bored.
< 1372179007 510515 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy stop giving him attentoin
< 1372179007 672689 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you bitch
< 1372179008 683679 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are any ops around? fizzie?
< 1372179024 844797 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, katla: yeah, yeah
< 1372179025 182339 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy imma go boom boom on your cow mother bitch
< 1372179093 693775 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of curious how people do this tho
< 1372179101 362602 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how people do what?
< 1372179102 915295 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :????like, why???????
< 1372179125 998171 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy why you so stupid ...mothe bitch?
< 1372179187 190554 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imma nugger can i place ma ass here yo yo yo?
< 1372179219 511136 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SKeet Skeet bang bang nugga
< 1372179404 263063 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't we keep it and raise it?
< 1372179424 27973 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor misunderstood thing
< 1372179433 181922 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname
< 1372179443 426604 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someday it will even be able to talk properly
< 1372179454 740665 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i suggest you follow ion and katla's advice, it's working wonders for me
< 1372179471 977249 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1372179647 981342 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1372179694 134805 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :l
< 1372179927 955395 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro
< 1372180013 831866 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro? more like cockpro
< 1372180053 925004 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semen_Dickman: damn, you got me
< 1372180099 430400 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nugga i aint catching any one
< 1372180104 216717 :Semen_Dickman!~flack@117.206.25.86 PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeet skeet bang bang nugga
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< 1372180915 809293 :heroux_!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl NICK :heroux
< 1372180928 484761 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro
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< 1372181283 871526 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :fizzie
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< 1372181286 570585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@117.206.25.86
> 1372181286 592750 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1372181293 103113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie KICK #esoteric Semen_Dickman :Semen_Dickman
< 1372181302 469899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie MODE #esoteric -o :fizzie
> 1372181302 492650 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1372181309 188762 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372181322 429707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm kind of on vacation here.)
< 1372181326 18514 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1372181398 583038 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike
< 1372181476 320763 :Gregor!~Gregor@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372181992 884188 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott stream that game again
< 1372182469 647102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote #toilet
< 1372182471 363284 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :380) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets   #toilet is useless   is #toilet even a thing   I'm looking for help with toilets
< 1372182484 48674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be ##toilet anyway
< 1372182493 716956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if I had op power I could have dealt with the situtaion abov
< 1372182970 668380 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372182985 861900 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, you already have voice power, don't get ahead of yourself.
< 1372182996 835372 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, WHY IS GREGOR UNVOICED
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< 1372183811 142040 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372184325 56660 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
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< 1372186572 66890 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi katla.
< 1372186647 277997 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow did someone seriously just join the channel to act like a family guy joke
< 1372186663 362545 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your interests
< 1372186693 908317 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :math, brains, legs, punching dickbags
< 1372186717 487385 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which math
< 1372186735 770825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this machine punches dickbags
< 1372186745 623680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now I'm reading an introduction to real analysis.
< 1372186785 803121 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1372186855 948753 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what a topology is now, it's all hella exciting
< 1372186910 296736 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont really know abot topology
< 1372186942 786137 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither, that's why it's exciting.
< 1372187255 428561 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com
< 1372187259 683347 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, topology is the best
< 1372187272 45373 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372187302 266546 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tel me about it
< 1372187330 385687 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know the defeinition
< 1372187355 707353 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the definition of what a topology is?
< 1372187382 974601 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372187467 304685 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well uh it lets you define continuity and convergence and stuff without a notion of distance, so that's cool
< 1372187498 147239 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compactness
< 1372187501 203837 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compactness is cool
< 1372187935 326998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = x + 1/x in map f [1..]
< 1372187936 347710 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [2.0,2.5,3.3333333333333335,4.25,5.2,6.166666666666667,7.142857142857143,8....
< 1372187951 272585 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t iterate
< 1372187951 980970 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a -> [a]
< 1372187967 888335 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (\x -> x + 1/x) 2
< 1372187968 828106 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  [2.0,2.5,2.9,3.2448275862068963,3.5530103704789475,3.8344618428159674,4.095...
< 1372188103 660545 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm compactness
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< 1372188717 218091 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant
< 1372188759 510377 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[
< 1372188790 32158 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a fan of constants?
< 1372188895 359634 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :attempt at strart discusion failed
< 1372188916 473344 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i turns out i actually don' know shit about anything
< 1372188999 695852 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens when by it i mean me not talking
< 1372189183 71569 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372189189 993281 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372190628 543568 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: now i'm looking for myrands. http://pastebin.com/5gSh5iXJ why would you write your own lcg like this
< 1372190764 787035 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute
< 1372190799 561600 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/cpuwhiz11/CS-School-Work/blob/b19e66cb38828e22bd1bcee31c923c95e62062eb/101/pg44.c good
< 1372190890 829254 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpuwhiz11
< 1372190909 126167 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int ret = (int) (((float) n * (float) rand()) / ((float) RAND_MAX + 1.0)); "here let me sign your cast"
< 1372190928 639989 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(signed)(float)x
< 1372190984 62289 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah
< 1372191015 711529 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you design a random number generator?
< 1372191035 429548 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"std::size_t ret = rand() % N;" i don't even know what's going on here
< 1372191050 241377 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_congruential_generator is a place to start
< 1372191092 151368 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRNG ~
< 1372191116 189391 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so theres this Hull-Dobell Theorem
< 1372191129 895986 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that tells you when a linear RNG will be good for all seeds
< 1372191168 716909 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this particular kind, yeah.
< 1372191172 151997 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for certain values of "good"
< 1372191174 969500 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then theres:
< 1372191176 485051 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LCGs tend to exhibit some severe defects. For instance, if an LCG is used to choose points in an n-dimensional space, the points will lie on, at most, m1/n hyperplanes (Marsaglia's Theorem
< 1372191182 968880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's not great
< 1372191188 588511 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's easy to understand, so, good for learning
< 1372191258 77719 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372191297 894666 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically like, random number generators are a tradeoff between "fast" and "good randomness"
< 1372191302 440882 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man RANDU is so great
< 1372191305 312753 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like an LCG is fast and simple but doesn't have great randomness
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< 1372191373 822223 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversive_congruential_generator
< 1372191376 841529 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats so weir
< 1372191377 616578 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :d
< 1372191385 83518 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_{i+1} = c if x_i = 0
< 1372191414 117508 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it doesn't matter though
< 1372191520 971178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't matter?
< 1372191541 321962 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first thought was that might give a bias towards c but it doesnt
< 1372191635 744498 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_feedback_shift_register
< 1372191641 835342 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, assuming x_i is evenly distributed in 0..q it should work
< 1372191645 772124 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems like thenext step up
< 1372191670 358258 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's still linear.
< 1372191681 853604 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372191685 954086 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear feedback shift register was the first sorta prng i learned
< 1372191694 74652 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlekamp-Massey_algorithm
< 1372191832 564029 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"const int Random::NewRand()"
< 1372192177 850658 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whats an example of a nonlinear RNG?
< 1372192187 940680 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than the inverse one
< 1372192201 724065 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! blum blum shub
< 1372192207 177133 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blum_Blum_Shub
< 1372192314 628666 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most are nonlinear really
< 1372192414 150485 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like?
< 1372192511 249160 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blum blum shub, mersenne
< 1372192547 720902 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess linearity isn't that important and i'm talking out my ass but
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< 1372193562 769587 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
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< 1372194739 233349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, Marsaglia's theorem
< 1372194739 968788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :til
< 1372194763 68097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Marsaglia from MWC256 here: http://forums.wolfram.com/mathgroup/archive/2003/Feb/msg00456.html
< 1372194834 743230 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Just as the "Miss America Contest" judges have to[...]» ok
< 1372194866 265412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of awesome that a) Blum Blum Shub is named after the three inventors, b) the two Blums are married, c) they're both CS professors at CMU, d) their son is also a CS professor at CMU
< 1372194877 976840 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's also Blum right
< 1372194880 263359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372194882 555088 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1372194892 490787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blum dynasty
< 1372194912 747691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :srand( time( NULL ) ) ;  x = rand() % 39 + -19 ;
< 1372194915 746126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372194944 691291 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. hell yes
< 1372194971 817296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are they related to Blum the phd student at cmu
< 1372195015 954253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Avrim is the son of two other famous computer scientists, Manuel Blum and Lenore Blum.[4] Avrim is the father of Alex Blum and Aaron Blum."
< 1372195030 268221 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1372195042 98514 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the blum dynasty.
< 1372195048 690256 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this could rival the curie dynasty maaaaan
< 1372195116 149966 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ève was the only member of her family who did not choose a career as a scientist and did not win a Nobel Prize, although her husband Henry Richardson Labouisse, Jr. did collect the Nobel Peace Prize in 1965 on behalf of UNICEF."
< 1372195127 12681 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez. talk about a high standard to live up to
< 1372195165 204062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it is a nobel cause
< 1372195196 540811 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION winces, hides

< 1372195253 75040 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i torrented apocalypse now
< 1372195283 824744 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the torrent claims to be 1080p; except it's in widescreen, so there aren't 1080 vertical pixels
< 1372195294 347566 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel cheated?
< 1372195410 124732 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what kind of application would you need a 2^131086 period for O_o
< 1372195501 982078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372195852 127230 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372195930 591476 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372195957 502636 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372196088 20627 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372196227 384880 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1372196381 722687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372196833 954815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : insert obligatory hth here <-- i think that's an incorrect format hth
< 1372196904 360924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying that newfangled screen thing

< 1372196915 959051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i need a better command char than ^A
< 1372197042 197691 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/8296d5c9a6b3bbe0fbfeca8776ccb055/tumblr_mo53okwvyG1s0s0n5o1_500.jpg
< 1372197125 566348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any pi...
< 1372197209 948312 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372198921 436035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit it turns out trying to set the screen command character to ^S (_so_ mnemonical) is _not_ a good idea.
< 1372198943 528221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me ages to fix without killing screen :P
< 1372198971 883672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fortunately i could do shell commands, and screen -X helped)
< 1372198991 828922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION settles on ^Y instead

< 1372199146 972145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok back to this hilarious phallic guy in the logs
< 1372199292 175401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: CLEARLY THAT WAS YOU TRYING TO SLYLY IMPLICATE WE NEED MORE OPS HTH
< 1372199311 975126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so idle
< 1372199558 574294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is fizzie
< 1372199578 730752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most pointless false flag operation in the history of the world
< 1372199599 87414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's working!
< 1372199613 992569 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo: op me
< 1372199623 208124 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can be trusted
< 1372199629 857365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY
< 1372199643 187412 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, glad we got that worked out then.
< 1372199661 266891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hint: O KAY doesn't mean yes)
< 1372199694 567824 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyrant
< 1372199718 58273 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372201012 582352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvpmassachusetts.org/?page_id=6  should I have voted for this party? they were on the ballot for some reason
< 1372201031 527245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Democrat, Republican, and Twelve Visions Party
< 1372201036 41705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no Green Rainbow this time
< 1372201059 986826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a fucking self-help stoner party
< 1372201185 28442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you look at the top you can find the "Prime Law" which they want to replace the US constitution with
< 1372201212 694393 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I do not know where I got off track but I look at this and at other passages about women and realize that I have
< 1372201215 614426 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taken on too much of a tomboy role and need to go back to being the woman God made me and enjoy
< 1372201218 656497 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it. "
< 1372201244 537140 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372201286 176256 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, they're libertarians
< 1372201311 186456 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just curious if this was inpired by the three-article code of Liu Bang, the first Han emperor of China.
< 1372201378 650936 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how did they get on the ballot
< 1372201390 137856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of entertaining spam of the electoral people?
< 1372201398 287714 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1372201413 815778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk
< 1372201429 863972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvpmassachusetts.org/?page_id=19#comment-1730 speaks to me on a psychosexual level
< 1372201477 512133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_;
< 1372201489 665778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun trying to sort out the spam comments from the crazies on here
< 1372201518 110362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Howԁy would you mind lеttіng me know whiсh ωebhoѕt you’re using?"
< 1372201534 27657 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my d4d 3arns $7 512 per m0nth us1ng thi5 o/\/e we1rd tri(k
< 1372201546 595472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :herb4l vjagra
< 1372201630 933362 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372201675 648354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now they add non-ASCII letters to trick them?
< 1372201683 966875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372201729 330297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disable non-ASCII in those comments will correct that problem at least (but not all of them); whether or not such a thing would be suitable depend what kind of things are being commented on, I suppose.
< 1372201784 337648 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll inform the twelve visions council immediately
< 1372201812 137269 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1372201865 335296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course this won't help 100% though; maybe only 5% or so but it might also help another thing other than spam.
< 1372201907 812510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, to fix the spam still require many more thing too.
< 1372202154 793673 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, I just reached the bit with the playmates.
< 1372202161 288389 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... was weird.
< 1372202503 795792 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1372203052 210440 :kgoret!~terogk@u.nxsh.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372203092 944863 :kgoret!~terogk@u.nxsh.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives ion a kiss. no reason in particular.

< 1372203134 525370 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome kgoret
< 1372203137 238229 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07kgoret: Welcome to the in10t02er14n10a13tional hub10 for 10esoteric 04p04r12ogramming07 lang05uage design an06d de02pl14oym12ent! For m12or08e informat05ion, check out our w07iki: h04ttp://esolangs.org/09wiki/Main_Page. (02For the o11ther ki02nd of eso11terica12, try09 #es06oteric on irc.dal.03n10et.13)
< 1372203279 592656 :kgoret!~terogk@u.nxsh.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sings OOM BOP .. OOM BOT .> LAGHLRHUGRUHS HUUUHGHRH LURRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHR

< 1372203298 494868 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :epic
< 1372203932 885514 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a few too many k's in this channel, i feel
< 1372204012 451431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a few too many 's's
< 1372204053 952881 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, the s situation is pretty bad
< 1372204137 145864 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have neither, is that good?
< 1372204227 979998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The capital F situation is dire (because we have three, and nicks should start with a lowercase letter).
< 1372204239 585191 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::<
< 1372204244 336035 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm a proper noun
< 1372204264 133960 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :AProperNoun
< 1372204269 359959 :AProperNoun!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't

< 1372204272 24124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean "I is a proper noun".
< 1372204279 250805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to be a verb
< 1372204280 26397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, no, I is a pronoun.
< 1372204313 722308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no in 2 days kmc is leaving massachusetts forever
< 1372204315 969919 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5IhPXEKNGE
< 1372204327 422528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: more or less? I'll probably visit at some point
< 1372204339 546564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what about it thouh
< 1372204348 191613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing in particular
< 1372204376 390144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372204378 290899 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, okay, Fiora is a proper noun
< 1372204380 474541 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, is it because i is a proper noun
< 1372204391 191501 :AProperNoun!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I feel like an idiot
< 1372204393 565902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ain't no proper noun
< 1372204394 220371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a person but 'I' is a pronoun
< 1372204402 84132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think this channel of all channels could get quoting right
< 1372204429 66018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think this channel of all channels would get quoting wrong on purpose
< 1372204442 678227 :AProperNoun!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't use '\'' to quote words even if the word is one letter
< 1372204456 406415 :AProperNoun!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe I would. Or 'I' would
< 1372204456 791035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rong on purpwse
< 1372204466 345587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AProperNoun: I'm waiting for the `olist update.
< 1372204471 361064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz fix hth
< 1372204473 690458 :AProperNoun!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* I :Nickname is already in use.
< 1372204505 521796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i found multiple rust bugs by trying to use it yesterday
< 1372204545 209373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the bug where you can make struct Foo { a: int, a: int }
< 1372204551 578367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1372204569 754782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's the opposite of nearly stable
< 1372204570 637994 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if shachaf finds bugs in it, that's p. buggy
< 1372204584 93923 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1372204964 516542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The channel for "scare quoted" people | where even "hi" is a p. complicated in-joke | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric and http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
< 1372205132 356886 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm still learning
< 1372205155 362394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good
< 1372205171 505923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi o'erjan
< 1372205189 496999 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys ever talk about anything interesting
< 1372205205 552018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372205223 65183 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try sometimes but I'm not very good at starting conversations
< 1372205229 528052 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't seem to be interested in a lot of the stuff I am so
< 1372205263 261681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which stuff
< 1372205289 324815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: what do you find interesting? you could try to start a conversation on one of those topics
< 1372205291 982971 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i reached the scene with the french guy ranting about how the french lost all their wars
< 1372205298 559681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me a lot of the conversations in here are interesting
< 1372205306 136732 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not really interested in stuff :/
< 1372205307 882189 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :times never change :')
< 1372205312 717666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the ones that aren't me talking to myself
< 1372205326 965848 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla, what about compactness `q. interesting imo'
< 1372205338 289759 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apocalypse now mentions france, huh
< 1372205351 265328 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho can we talk about compactness though
< 1372205361 616564 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing to say
< 1372205374 990026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the 'redux' editions they run into some french colonists who are still around for some reason
< 1372205394 878379 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372205398 971460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes the kmc talking to himself conversations

< 1372205406 857160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the kmc talking to other people conversations
< 1372205416 487926 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's an extension of the 'going backwards through vietnamese history' thing
< 1372205449 764531 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Um... I like astrophysics and computer architecture and strategy games and JRPGs and otome games and plushies and mahou shoujo and some other things and there doesn't seem to be that much overlap there
< 1372205491 496834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom___Hoover: ending with jungle warlords?
< 1372205505 774290 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess (i haven't reached that far yet)
< 1372205510 821652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to make bacteria plushies (bacteria are cute)
< 1372205521 344011 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can buy those!  I actually have two
< 1372205534 738212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: do they use the motto "gotta catch them all"
< 1372205536 931445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo they should do that
< 1372205538 187061 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/6708/
< 1372205546 495461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh clearly, a manga where magical girls learn astrophysics and computer architecture
< 1372205548 759609 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend sent me the mono virus
< 1372205558 71205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how romantic
< 1372205558 456748 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably so he could say "I gave fiora kissing disease"
< 1372205582 948598 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he is a terrible^Wwonderful flirt)
< 1372205594 504490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ok so those exist but maybe they didn't exist back when i thought about it
< 1372205609 140778 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, no blood tube
< 1372205625 343996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An otome game (乙女ゲーム otome gēmu?, lit. "maiden game") is a video game that is targeted towards a female market, where one of the main goals, besides the plot goal, is to develop a romantic relationship between the female player character and one of several male, or occasionally female characters.
< 1372205641 614183 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "visual novel" a better general term <.<
< 1372205659 541462 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, so are you a fan of mass effect
< 1372205676 373991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :garrus isn't very bishie. imo.
< 1372205713 934006 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you read japanese?
< 1372205721 446877 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how do you know
< 1372205729 928919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i can money through gmail now
< 1372205736 508867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :send
< 1372205743 19010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like harry potter except they are all learning computer architecture
< 1372205768 573292 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric : uh clearly, a manga where magical girls learn astrophysics and computer architecture <-- id read this
< 1372205774 124100 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd also read it.
< 1372205778 697285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1372205780 31505 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just putting that out there"
< 1372205785 719251 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't
< 1372205803 875401 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.64.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bad taste in manga"
< 1372205817 895685 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372205821 503880 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sorry phantom, objectively bad taste there.
< 1372205826 963235 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played mass effect 1 and 2 but I lost a bit of interest towards the end, I should play 3 sometime though
< 1372205832 896235 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was like "aghghghg I have to download origin", and so I never did
< 1372205839 585186 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :garrus was pretty wonderful though
< 1372205848 992677 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately my favorite character had no romance route, buuut
< 1372205856 438593 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you often like "aghghghg"?
< 1372205859 585204 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the opera guy wasn't it
< 1372205864 401516 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it
< 1372205877 468729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXiU6kiq_Ms ?
< 1372205891 617856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayep.
< 1372205901 354126 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mordin was so completely amazing
< 1372205908 628214 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bless you, mordin
< 1372205909 870761 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blordin
< 1372205930 152930 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that musta been a fun acting job.
< 1372205951 968508 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: I -wish- I could.  but the amount of japanese I know could fit on half a page
< 1372205976 903250 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I for one am often like "aghghghg"
< 1372205995 700562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1372206007 770928 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I should play 3 sometime though" probably don't play it after... sanctuary?
< 1372206022 360370 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some would say you should stop after tuchanka
< 1372206042 964171 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1372206060 216637 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, the infamous ending/macroplot clusterfuck
< 1372206065 158491 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I kind of like bioware's older games better... I hope dragon age 3 is okay at least
< 1372206098 218626 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fairness they have some really wonderful writers so...
< 1372206100 473161 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora hm why dont you write that all out then fill the rest of the page with new words and learn it all
< 1372206113 888288 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's like. a lot of it
< 1372206119 231988 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because learning a language like that takes years of practice and dedication and is really difficult
< 1372206154 333020 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what i understand, the talent pool at bioware has become incredibly diluted
< 1372206198 727547 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they're now split across what, two or three different studios now? and they have a bunch more staff, and they're now locked into EA's AAA release cycle
< 1372206204 138453 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah >_<  
< 1372206241 90366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is armikrog going to make it y/n
< 1372206253 457155 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n
< 1372206265 297345 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog/
< 1372206267 955952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pessimist__Hoover
< 1372206268 374881 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1372206294 222374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: oh no :'(
< 1372206365 936138 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that extrapolating from the last two or three data points seems enough for it to make it. So if the latest trend continues…
< 1372206393 408193 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, that is pretty infuriating
< 1372206400 311288 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1949537745/armikrog/#chart-daily
< 1372206450 164194 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inquiry: I might be getting hired by Google. Yes or very yes on not finishing college?
< 1372206474 293154 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: as in, dropping out and going to google?
< 1372206484 913262 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Si
< 1372206494 69569 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$i
< 1372206500 176015 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: if they're willing to actually have you do it, very yes, unless you're working on chrome (imo)
< 1372206506 907913 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$√−1
< 1372206514 834009 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're actually going to go full-time, internal mobility is high, so whatever
< 1372206514 938879 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far made it past the initial phone screen.
< 1372206526 800529 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With them knowing that that's where I'm at.
< 1372206573 708765 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noting also that I've been at least considering dropping out *as is*.
< 1372206597 140755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Weird numpad bug
< 1372206630 455185 :kgoret!~terogk@u.nxsh.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: count the number of times you hear "cool" in your interview. if more than 7 stay in school.
< 1372206680 780766 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kgoret: Google backend stuff.
< 1372206725 550040 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :From a recruiter contacting me...
< 1372206777 211278 :augur!~augur@c-98-231-232-27.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372206795 757350 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get a job offer or just a recruiter email?
< 1372206807 633024 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recruiter email & initial interview.
< 1372206921 668713 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's any sort of guarantee you'll get a job at all... recruiters send out a whole bunch of emails, I don't think they have any influence on the interview process and whether or not you get a job
< 1372206955 950601 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not, I'm just hopeful. And gonna see where this leads.
< 1372206995 618854 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm getting kinda sick of going through college this fucking slowly.
< 1372207059 82739 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the rate I'm going I'll be bald when I get my diploma.
< 1372207108 382208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a brilliant artist must be bald and daring
< 1372207224 9964 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1372207313 870167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why is chrome so bad, compared to google's 90000 other projects
< 1372207319 776994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think chrome is at least a lot more interesting
< 1372207331 49991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372207349 602518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Google usually doesn't tell you what specific project you'd work on, until they give you an offer
< 1372207352 652934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1372207369 797956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kgoret: no it's all about "awesome" now
< 1372207382 386859 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They tell you the general area they'll be hiring in.
< 1372207386 253125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372207410 353378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should think hard on whether you want to commit to being at Google a few years
< 1372207414 176308 :augur!~augur@c-98-231-232-27.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372207422 280576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because absent a diploma, you'd be using that experience to sell future employers
< 1372207436 267233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know which office you'd be in?
< 1372207441 953883 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mountain View.
< 1372207462 932901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1372207470 856486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cool office
< 1372207473 974214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as cool as SF, but I hear it's really hard to get a spot there
< 1372207492 329460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it exists so that Google can acqui-hire SF startups who won't sell unless they can stay in the city ;P
< 1372207493 725705 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That *is* the Googleplex.
< 1372207499 65234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear SF isn't so much of an engineering office or something.
< 1372207508 604918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I know some people doing engineering there
< 1372207519 66441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Have you been applying to lots of jobs or is this just Google contacting you out of the blue
< 1372207533 463999 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I just don't like working on chrome
< 1372207535 542127 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Out of the blue.
< 1372207547 707795 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: score
< 1372207563 967612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: do you think you have the patience & energy to do a bit of a job search to see if you can do better than Google (wrt whatever your own goals are)
< 1372207573 953367 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I highly recommend infrastructure teams if you can get there
< 1372207582 686485 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: That's what I'm being recruited for.
< 1372207593 51205 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: score!
< 1372207606 6952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some regrets over not doing "job searches" in the past and mostly taking the first job that came along
< 1372207608 75839 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :google infrastructure is like a playground
< 1372207625 93164 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no, I'm pretty sure there's few jobs in the world better than a Google infrastructure engineer
< 1372207632 517484 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, I'll probably be poking around some more. I'll just say this particular one is damned tempting.
< 1372207676 394320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you're making some assumptions about what pikhq_ wants there
< 1372207691 425521 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty arrogant of you
< 1372207699 530730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big companies have a lot of disadvantages too
< 1372207723 575142 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll possibly also see if my current internship can be made more... permanent.
< 1372207759 369535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Google corporate culture is not to everyone's liking
< 1372207762 795726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no culture is
< 1372207763 682425 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: everyone thinks exactly like me
< 1372207767 30953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly
< 1372207768 240867 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :including elliott in particular
< 1372207912 693291 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that trans-related health care things are part of the benefits makes it somewhat more tempting, considering my girlfriend...
< 1372207926 426423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's very nice
< 1372207943 550371 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading google and microsoft were basically the two best in that category, so that's probably a good reason
< 1372207960 805868 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That really shouldn't be the sole basis on which I decide, but it definitely is something in their favor.
< 1372207962 700519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from wording I assume you aren't married so, does Google cover non-married domestic partner whatever health care?
< 1372207974 238449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some companies do
< 1372207992 539526 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1372207992 560066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mozilla will
< 1372207992 560247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1372207993 441925 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it'd be literally impossible for us to marry as-is.
< 1372207996 504437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1372208002 376529 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking gay marriage laws.
< 1372208045 614797 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: well, hopefully that law won't be very soon
< 1372208051 101546 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1372208079 391360 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we're lucky, it'll be moot in a day.
< 1372208095 786960 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh, yeah, is the DOMA decision coming out tomorrow?
< 1372208099 69879 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1372208107 40226 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez, I really really hope there's sanity >_<
< 1372208124 368069 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know people literally waiting on that to be able to be together (green cards, etc)
< 1372208124 388726 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOMA decision?
< 1372208125 398062 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well uh you did hear bout their ruling today, didn't you.
< 1372208128 779202 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not much hope for that"
< 1372208135 343241 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom___Hoover: defense of marriage act
< 1372208148 653548 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be stunned if they uphold prop. 8.
< 1372208169 462331 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOMA is the problematic one though, because it kind of doesn't matter if the state endorses a marriage if the federal government won't :/
< 1372208172 49307 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for sanity, i meant. not being too serious
< 1372208191 362001 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I'm just saying that prop. 8 is nearly impossible to uphold because of the details of the case.
< 1372208208 701006 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The defense of prop. 8 was basically "gay people are icky!"
< 1372208224 62701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: is that really true
< 1372208230 81340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can't get a green card
< 1372208237 702891 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't file taxes with the IRS, I think, as a couple
< 1372208242 423999 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup.
< 1372208260 491757 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though Google will pay you the difference. :P
< 1372208279 748377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for example child custody, health care decisions, etc. would be mostly state issues, no?
< 1372208284 415589 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a couple who's basically waiting on it, though they can cheat because one of them could probably legitimately get papers saying she was either male or female depending on what the government insisted on
< 1372208289 850187 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, those are entirely state issues.
< 1372208303 207417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes it's not a full victory but I think saying it "doesn't matter" is wrong
< 1372208307 129063 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah.
< 1372208317 771610 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... I guess it matters in some ways?  but like it's missing a lot of important parts
< 1372208321 6582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the more legally gay-married people exist, the more pressure there will be to repeal / strike down DOMA
< 1372208343 929357 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi we're married and fuck this thing"
< 1372208344 911576 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Most* of the things dealing with marriage are state law issues actually.
< 1372208346 715658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally get pissed off when people say "X is useless!" to mean "X isn't perfect", it happens a lot in discussions of computer security and things like that
< 1372208353 364900 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok kmc
< 1372208355 535259 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's not what I meant >_<  more like, it loses a lot of it
< 1372208356 153178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there there
< 1372208356 664914 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1372208359 209076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372208363 170530 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have phrased it better
< 1372208370 610509 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green card, IRS, and federal employment benefits are, like, it
< 1372208382 580839 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: you should come visit canada, get hitched, and leave
< 1372208404 684890 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sneaky.
< 1372208405 816808 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You managed to upload an image so large that Danbooru 2's thumbnailing job gets whacked by the OOM killer" in other news
< 1372208415 639383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well done
< 1372208459 719730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: was it a specially-crafted compressed image or something
< 1372208460 393056 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole bypassing-the-problem-by-being-trans thing is interesting though
< 1372208466 764471 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I know a couple of two gay men who have been married for like, 15 years
< 1372208472 662411 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is longer than any state has allowed gay marriage
< 1372208486 229503 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: apparently unintentional!
< 1372208495 365317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much of a compression ratio can you get
< 1372208509 429472 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's animated.
< 1372208536 552906 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372208538 704795 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 MB.
< 1372208539 289751 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a couple that got divorced after one of them transitioned. That was interesting.
< 1372208540 971505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's maybe not as totally ridiculous as the thing that some lesbians apparently did back in the 70s, where one was younger than 18 and one was older, and they'd have the older one adopt the younger one to get legal/tax benefits @_@
< 1372208550 195999 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.
< 1372208550 367134 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor guy, getting asked if he was the wife.
< 1372208595 689041 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note that the legal status is that the legal gender status *at the time* is what matters. If it was heterosexual and is now gay that's just fine!)
< 1372208614 542130 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's kind of an odd legal loophole
< 1372208624 704978 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a peach, US legal system. an incomprehensible peach
< 1372208794 430057 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what happens if you have a gay marriage in a state and then it becomes straight?
< 1372208853 755930 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... that... I have no idea
< 1372208861 19170 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372208867 313649 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*There's* a confusing edge case for ya.
< 1372208877 103334 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iowa just implodes
< 1372208881 859523 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the laws clearly need to be refactored or something
< 1372208886 613613 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that gender is no longer assumed to be const
< 1372208900 419834 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or from the set {Male, Female}
< 1372208926 430704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does gender need to be mentioned
< 1372208932 81975 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not generally.
< 1372208952 119672 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... guess it matters for people who are exclusively andro- or gynophilic?
< 1372208953 123153 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qntm.org/gay bla bla
< 1372209001 677977 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pan is the best orientation
< 1372209019 434569 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh.
< 1372209026 75253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or none at all, I suppose.
< 1372209097 15336 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1372209115 551599 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gender: basically a roman surface
< 1372209118 33001 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :???
< 1372209127 505116 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one's the roman surface
< 1372209138 260150 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s non-orientable and looks dumb
< 1372209147 954742 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I am glaring at that author for thinking "asexual" is a sex
< 1372209150 605173 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.<;;
< 1372209152 378401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum gay
< 1372209157 367989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quantum of gay
< 1372209160 955881 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372209216 42038 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: presumably as in "lacks sexual organs"
< 1372209229 473857 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{biology}
< 1372209276 498499 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i remember the usual term
< 1372209293 335877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia doesn't have "list of sexes". imo, rage
< 1372209321 424456 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pulls up "sex is a social construction to justify gender" infographicdiagram, etc, etc

< 1372209364 491908 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know the problems with "lacks sexual organs" as a meaningful designation too
< 1372209371 113763 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :peoplescience is hard
< 1372209381 982577 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372209386 178104 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I am pretty sure he thought "asexual" was just a natural construction for "devoid of (biological) sex".
< 1372209399 135615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymorphous_perversity my god.
< 1372209399 299651 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what actually isn't a social construct
< 1372209406 624338 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pants
< 1372209412 556881 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only Real objects
< 1372209425 134024 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yeah, I know, I'm not being toooo serious
< 1372209438 964960 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should pick up a psychoanalysis textbook sometime just for the humor value
< 1372209494 610871 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up Category:Sexual_orientation, runs into "autovampirism"

< 1372209513 84973 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucking the oil from cars
< 1372209514 851183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in b4 category theory joke
< 1372209516 761075 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And obviously he has the weird gender-sex conflation in place.
< 1372209552 281628 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_asexuals i think this category needs some work
< 1372209571 994367 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks, doesn't see sherlock holmes 

< 1372209590 649203 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, exactly.
< 1372209591 476115 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he was gay for watson, duh
< 1372209601 729451 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that chick in the spacecoyote comic.
< 1372209603 702398 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is it's usually not explicit in canon >_<
< 1372209610 835387 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ends mental list of fictional asexuals

< 1372209629 610169 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like sophie is sort of fan-assumed to be aromantic but....
< 1372209675 318198 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pilot!
< 1372209707 253820 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me that i should take a botany class because i have very little idea of how plants fuck and it seems fascinating
< 1372209727 385728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy i voted for for senate won
< 1372209735 376553 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from twelve?
< 1372209735 572761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means i win too right
< 1372209741 253333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372209750 713105 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if twelve wins we all win
< 1372209754 367437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo no
< 1372209758 52558 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1372209800 216542 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(biology) Having no distinct sex, having no sexual organs." aha there we go
< 1372209808 864177 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i just need to figure out a less ambiguous term
< 1372209813 676974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it means you have superpowers
< 1372209819 756394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: vote for me next time hth
< 1372209820 135415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is CLEARLY not a doomed effort because sex is unambiguous
< 1372209872 994657 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even friggin' biological notions of sex are complicated.
< 1372209884 662218 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neuter....?  though that's the name of a gender too :/
< 1372209890 912914 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A statuette of Aphroditus in the anasyromenos pose. The ancient Greeks and Romans believed the pose had apotropaic magical power." this is going well.
< 1372209902 596371 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://pbfcomics.com/146/
< 1372209915 349023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but like
< 1372209922 99840 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hermaphroditic plants?? what's the deal
< 1372209927 123708 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the deal.
< 1372209941 107477 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I kind of wonder like... why did animals ever stop being hermaphrodites
< 1372209950 298752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo read about sexual reproduction in fungi
< 1372209963 445455 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, isn't it more efficient to have two animals mate, and then they can *both* carry children, and stuff
< 1372209967 468870 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's one of the more old and controversial questions in evolutionary biology.
< 1372209968 887309 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like snails
< 1372209981 666583 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right :<
< 1372209987 703869 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it's interesting.
< 1372209989 544041 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that's a really good question, why do so many species have two sexes?
< 1372210018 1741 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it comes from the whole chromosomal thing?  I mean like there's only a couple sex chromosome systems, right?
< 1372210023 18706 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to more, or as opposed to no differentiation?
< 1372210027 483482 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: There's several.
< 1372210035 131451 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit, there's two or three in the mammals.
< 1372210042 123648 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's... ZW, XY, X0, and temperature?
< 1372210047 752635 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also sexual differentiation systems not based on chromosomes
< 1372210053 58705 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the common ones, Fiora.
< 1372210053 423690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hey, do you want to be on `pbflist!!
< 1372210060 336362 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :temperature for example isn't exclusive of ZW
< 1372210061 500863 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On November 3, 2010, scientists announced the discovery of a female Boa constrictor that can produce offspring without mating and, through such asexual reproduction, produced 22 female offspring" O_O
< 1372210067 724480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, may i suggest......`pbflistdeluxe
< 1372210073 517526 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah
< 1372210086 525420 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The platypus has a ten-chromosome–based system, where the chromosomes form a multivalent chain in male meiosis, segregating into XXXXX-sperm and YYYYY-sperm, with XY-equivalent chromosomes at one end of this chain and the ZW-equivalent chromosomes at the other end."
< 1372210089 873027 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you didn't know about that? we've known about [iforgettheword] for years
< 1372210096 112452 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also yes platypi are fucking nuts
< 1372210101 244536 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZW??
< 1372210101 647454 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :platypi are crazy
< 1372210109 705726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZW is used by birds
< 1372210113 114337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some other animals
< 1372210114 904573 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: sex chromosomes.
< 1372210115 697139 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And many reptiles.
< 1372210123 411856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, what's the damn word.
< 1372210131 117893 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For females reproducing w/o insemination
< 1372210133 341326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 should design some biological systems imo
< 1372210135 759987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parthenogenesis
< 1372210140 38563 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. thank you.
< 1372210143 387136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some reptiles can do it yeah
< 1372210155 142405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you poke a frog egg with a pin it will start to grow into a haploid frog (??)
< 1372210167 224254 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha those experiments are the best.
< 1372210175 99181 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how can we fuck up frog eggs... oh. oh wow"
< 1372210186 797057 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex determination is best described as "complex".
< 1372210196 354048 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad the woman who started them died young :(
< 1372210215 618118 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, parthanogenesis, that's the thing
< 1372210240 131633 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnemidophorus_neomexicanus   oh woowwww
< 1372210242 637995 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an all-female species
< 1372210248 142755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, matriarchy
< 1372210254 362147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah that's the lizard i was thinking of.
< 1372210259 827609 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they were on Bill Nye or something.
< 1372210272 242915 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah. Many species have two distinct sexes simply because sexual reproduction works based off of combination of male and female gametes.
< 1372210321 213494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two mating types of yeast are conventionally known as "a" and "α"
< 1372210335 516615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol.
< 1372210348 995870 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinks

< 1372210349 914531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like ascomycetes typically have two mating types, while basidiomycetes can have thousands
< 1372210351 674352 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh huh, there's a word specifically for two-sex reproduction, "anisogamy"
< 1372210359 246006 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a protozoan with 7 sexes.
< 1372210366 588920 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7... sexes....?  wow
< 1372210378 862002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thousands beats 7
< 1372210386 314348 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also different kinds of anisogamy based on which cells are motile.
< 1372210387 342977 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo
< 1372210394 218447 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc for president of mushroom sex
< 1372210413 547153 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has two separate nuclei.
< 1372210429 613934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372210430 404693 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basidiomycete#Smuts
< 1372210431 905636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungi do that too
< 1372210434 328974 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smuts
< 1372210435 57865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are basidiomycetes called "smuts"
< 1372210449 3969 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I    I just   I can't
< 1372210453 876979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the haploid mycelia meet, if the mating types are compatible, the nuclei spread out and you get cells with one from each
< 1372210477 630438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's that organism which can produce spores and a fruiting body
< 1372210480 590789 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yeah, corn smut. :P
< 1372210480 699164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee mushrooms
< 1372210488 725223 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what i'm getting out of this is that i should refer to people without sex as "anamorphs" because everybody liked that series
< 1372210490 785061 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc likes his mushrooms XD
< 1372210506 427542 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372210518 288568 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think the only thing I remember about that book series was the cute falcon boy
< 1372210525 72590 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there were like, blue horses
< 1372210528 632127 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with psychic powers
< 1372210532 440972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never read it.
< 1372210547 152390 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man sometimes i forget how fucking amazing zoology is
< 1372210554 362990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distinguishing characteristic: Accordion-like extensible thorax
< 1372210592 980 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umbrella-like scales at each end
< 1372210611 94083 :AProperNoun!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo
< 1372210612 700455 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that one's name means "corset bearer" this is a pretty sexy... oh yeah i remember these things now.
< 1372210622 430128 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I downloaded an obscure NOAA manual just so i could get high res art of them
< 1372210636 637105 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoyed Animorphs, though I was young.
< 1372210640 314755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pliciloricus_enigmatus.jpg i mean, can you blame me? imo, no.
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< 1372210651 261630 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yeah, the Andalites. Fucking weird blue horse-men.
< 1372210664 473107 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello, i'm an old one"
< 1372210672 495484 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372210699 44410 :Phantom___Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1372210727 956919 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mouth surrounded by invertible tentacles" is going on my grindr profile, i think
< 1372210738 942530 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :til: bike has a grindr profile
< 1372210754 387410 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not. Should I?
< 1372210757 360959 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have six, one for each appendage
< 1372210816 521487 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, how are there only six phyla of fungi.
< 1372210826 540731 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you taxonomists
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< 1372210877 944715 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it wrong if I just want to like   watch you squee over biology and zoology stuff for hours
< 1372210878 874509 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, an entire phylum is just for "uh i dunno".
< 1372210893 305324 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's pretty boring to see. i just sit on the computer flicking through tabs
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< 1372210920 669891 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it would be entertaining if i like juggled at the same time.
< 1372210926 94577 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun watching you from here :<
< 1372210932 192089 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The Fungi imperfecti or imperfect fungi, also known as Deuteromycota, are fungi which do not fit into the commonly established taxonomic classifications of fungi that are based on biological species concepts or morphological characteristics of sexual structures because their sexual form of reproduction has never been observed; hence the name "imperfect fungi." » nevermind, this rules
< 1372210954 27138 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna be one of these when i grow up
< 1372210965 20633 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372210968 937773 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I spend a lot of time doing that.
< 1372210974 428671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sometimes they have observed the sexually reproducing phase and the asexual phase but they don't know it's the same species
< 1372210978 780723 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I date a biologist. :P
< 1372210983 10412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :costs a lot of money to sequence the genome of every random fungus you find
< 1372211003 143984 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For example, the ubiquitous and industrially important mold, Aspergillus niger, has no known sexual cycle." wait. fro real
< 1372211007 290312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think fungi are kind of the neglected kingdom when it comes to research money
< 1372211022 163800 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's literally mold. we don't know how mold reproduces???
< 1372211054 616380 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's kind of funny when we did that with animals (not knowing they're different forms of the same organism)
< 1372211123 204517 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf how is that not known
< 1372211134 540570 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the heyday of the opium trade, chandu opium, which was meant to be smoked, was made by long term fermentation of A. niger and other molds on raw opium." I...
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< 1372211185 103315 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: well we know they do asexual sporing.
< 1372211251 252035 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you guys all know so much biology btw
< 1372211262 537606 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading wikipedia articles constantly
< 1372211274 811702 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't actually know any biology

< 1372211314 636940 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Read Wikipedia, talk about neat things found from said reading with my girlfriend.
< 1372211318 600648 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(who is a biologist)
< 1372211326 122747 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously i need to work on the second part.
< 1372211330 276931 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly.
< 1372211365 398180 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have an amazing ability to shove random trivia in my head.
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< 1372211392 682994 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My coworkers are a little stunned that I can just talk in-depth about the archictectures of old game consoles.
< 1372211399 531449 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I absorb some things by talking with bike
< 1372211404 624022 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more like listening to him ramble about cool bio things
< 1372211416 753769 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess he probably absorbs tiny bits of my incomprehensible cpu nonsense or physics
< 1372211429 271458 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shotgun slurry approach to learning
< 1372211463 769402 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, that's me. Try to learn everything by gradually approaching mastery of all subjects simultaneously.
< 1372211529 471908 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the isogamy article has sections (sexions) on biology and also anthropology
< 1372211538 351060 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexions?
< 1372211560 557080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started typing "sex" when writing "sections" because of the conversation.
< 1372211562 562462 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm such a perv man
< 1372211595 756133 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Evolsex-dia2a.svg oh, cool graph.
< 1372211600 132022 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :picture. thing.
< 1372211613 584469 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike really is a perv, gosh, he's probably undressing those arthropods with his eyes.  gosh, what a creep!
< 1372211637 983991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, fruiting bodies, you come here often?
< 1372211656 920332 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm, perversion.
< 1372211663 682145 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a definite pervosexual

< 1372211753 62723 :tertu!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372211770 686551 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean o_O
< 1372211827 318991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stay away from me pikhq!! i have nematocysts and i'm not afraid to use them
< 1372211840 331534 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=17 It means I read this.
< 1372211861 949142 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still can't believe that updated again.
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< 1372215006 718005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, how's it working for pretty much the only web browser that exists, Mozilla 5.0?
< 1372215097 233495 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there was a better way to make that joke
< 1372215544 507409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there was a not-incomprehensible way to make that joke
< 1372215565 112133 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard shachaf is like, a total expert on being non-incomprehensible
< 1372215627 249440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: What, you're an intuitionist now?
< 1372215633 773170 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :????
< 1372215653 784237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"non-incomprehensible"
< 1372215657 391065 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  you're being incomprehensible
< 1372215660 56276 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1372215663 215697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess kmc was the intuitionist here.
< 1372215664 787491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1372215672 705025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you keep saying I'm incomprehensible?
< 1372215696 605553 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e-elliott said he felt that way toob ut.....  sorry
< 1372215704 789268 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like not see how that conversation works
< 1372215715 956111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ?
< 1372215727 77482 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[incomprehensible joke]" "Why do you keep saying I'm incomprehensible?"
< 1372215785 295371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Intuitionistic logic is logic where "not (not x)" doesn't necessarily imply "x".
< 1372215818 139862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said not-incomprehensible. I thought it was a joke. But it turns out to be kmc's joke.
< 1372216008 999641 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372216174 485217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't a joke, it was double negation for emphasis
< 1372216193 48201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i said "i'm sure there was a comprehensible way to make that joke" it wouldn't have made the point as strongly that Sgeo's joke was incomprehensible
< 1372216248 592332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :true enough
< 1372216265 493126 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was trying to make a joke about the ubiquity of Mozilla/5.0
< 1372216265 715706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not-not-false enough
< 1372216271 172710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: in user agents?
< 1372216273 615546 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372216275 421318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372216285 704583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Am I actually more incomprehensible than other people in here?
< 1372216288 964182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I haven't started working for Mozilla yet
< 1372216344 76989 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I...    sorry    I guess it kind of feels like that sometime...
< 1372216353 172012 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott told me not to worry because it was normal to get confused...
< 1372216482 816325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I ask you a question without you feeling accused (or whatever it is)?
< 1372216488 863959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf makes a lot of oblique jokes
< 1372216499 92362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I suspect elliott was joking when he said that, though I can't say for sure.
< 1372216514 150852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other kind of logic too, other than intuitionistic logic.
< 1372216531 736107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like non-intuitionistic logic and non-non-intuitionistic logic
< 1372216533 936491 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he was trying to ocomfort me...
< 1372216536 125402 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm confused...
< 1372216577 592771 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he was.
< 1372216579 710170 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or explain.
< 1372216608 119372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think something like "don't worry, it's normal to get confused when shachaf says something" is a sort of friendly way of making fun of me... But maybe I'm the one who doesn't comprehend!
< 1372216615 529323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is modal logic, too.
< 1372216898 266767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people
< 1372216909 984102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't live with 'em, can't dismantle their bodies for trace amounts of iron to make paperclips
< 1372216948 563292 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame imo
< 1372216961 997562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :differently-shaped-and-sized bags of mostly oxygen?
< 1372216980 491220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are up in arms about Dilbert
< 1372216983 370459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly oxygen? I guess so, since we're mostly water
< 1372216986 440661 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The RSS feed no longer displays the comic
< 1372216992 167672 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers referring to cars as "bags of mostly steel"

< 1372216996 335348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  People are up in arms about Dilbert
< 1372217000 65565 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1062)  People are up in arms about Dilbert
< 1372217001 680742 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body
< 1372217007 864765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pied.nu/banned/the_Dilbert_Hole/
< 1372217012 691974 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-06-25/
< 1372217012 712553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh nsfw i guess
< 1372217013 324868 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're apparentlyabout 65% oxygen by mass?
< 1372217019 121121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1372217026 120003 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atomically, i assume?
< 1372217036 724435 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372217052 465984 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that makes me think of Guess Which Anime, >_>
< 1372217054 768820 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh.  women have less water/oxygen than men
< 1372217065 264479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so THAT'S how you can tell
< 1372217077 207856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have oxydar, man
< 1372217090 384383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean that a really thourough SRS involves oxygen supplements too
< 1372217101 839436 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I'd guess it's just the difference in fat %
< 1372217110 968342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense
< 1372217114 540769 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably not anything else really
< 1372217129 967075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I ％
< 1372217138 644054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a compose combo for that
< 1372217155 12478 :augur!~augur@98.231.232.27 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372217158 120917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's fullwidth %
< 1372217160 697169 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372217160 750202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so p. not
< 1372217164 328156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just switch to japanese mode for fullwidth characters
< 1372217173 287527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :M-x weeaboo
< 1372217187 719103 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fullwidth characters are my waifu
< 1372217192 360746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :‱
< 1372217195 699142 :augur!~augur@98.231.232.27 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372217199 324416 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o
< 1372217202 203892 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0/000
< 1372217202 924407 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought your waifu was like.  some strange fungus
< 1372217203 226681 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  NaN
< 1372217205 560671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a halfwidth thousandth
< 1372217205 762037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :キガン
< 1372217217 460997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :メカィステル
< 1372217219 249297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1372217223 749701 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: LOVE KNOWS NO NUMBERS! Except if it's the euler-mascheroni constant which is also my waifu
< 1372217241 134794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one is my name?
< 1372217247 181809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the second iS?
< 1372217249 343996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally they're both your name
< 1372217253 469787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see
< 1372217254 540870 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the feigenbaum constants. either/or
< 1372217273 355178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kigan Meka~isuteru
< 1372217297 824631 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. kawaii
< 1372217302 719848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande has official arabic and cyrillic and chinese spellings of his name
< 1372217308 336494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because various border officials asked for it
< 1372217349 968393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: though apparently by #mm rules a waifu is something assigned to you by others
< 1372217359 626377 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea
< 1372217362 344219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's #mm
< 1372217364 780037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a waifu
< 1372217366 227047 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily i can just say stupid shit and nobody objeccts
< 1372217371 980038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i the incomprehensible one hth
< 1372217373 9735 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (don't tell him what #mm is)
< 1372217383 154217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice.
< 1372217393 332302 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more public figures should have official transliterations
< 1372217407 3057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :лександе
< 1372217409 399719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aлександеr
< 1372217420 471801 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, okay I won't
< 1372217425 414718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help :'(
< 1372217439 564131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think lexande is a public figure
< 1372217444 667686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i should convince him to come back to this channel
< 1372217450 388132 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :confession: i forget who lexande is?
< 1372217457 779590 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alexander Rapp
< 1372217460 209628 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good name
< 1372217460 500298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend of mine since long time ago
< 1372217462 218296 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372217467 369874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi∼
< 1372217467 688044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexande
< 1372217472 556506 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc you wizard
< 1372217478 544272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande is the wizard here
< 1372217492 386816 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: how do you spell 'lexande' in ge'ez
< 1372217493 832129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wizards' noses tingle when you talk about them
< 1372217537 971723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so
< 1372217550 559398 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is kmc a wizard?
< 1372217564 790577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For summoning you, I think.
< 1372217574 537679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if lexande has summoning sickness
< 1372217586 154508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you're not a very good wizard, clearly.
< 1372217591 648757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1372217596 381813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's how it works
< 1372217597 712713 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's a great wizard, imo.
< 1372217602 157499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 would know
< 1372217605 916761 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: back me up on this.
< 1372217638 271712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this is a magic: the gathering thing
< 1372217652 668086 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the transliterations of my name into cyrillic and arabic were chosen for me by russian and sudanese customs/immigration officials respectively
< 1372217667 588185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you travel a lot?
< 1372217686 519101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in b4 http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~arapp/map.html http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~arapp/citiesvisited.html
< 1372217708 174082 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/1h1ru6/assuming_certificate_authorities_are_untrusted/caqc0lc
< 1372217720 617507 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thkmc
< 1372217723 814632 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty travelly.
< 1372217835 751588 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there tend to be pretty canonical transliterations of "Alexander" into most languages
< 1372217849 364544 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, it's super old, i guess.
< 1372217852 127239 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to a certain ambitious macedonian
< 1372217852 928004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iskandar al-akbar
< 1372217853 592767 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that one guy.
< 1372217861 868200 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like the chinese one though
< 1372217871 444882 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because who ever heard of a four-character first name in chinese
< 1372217890 40498 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of almost no first names in Chinese, admittedly
< 1372217914 174647 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they should have gone for a semantic translation, i bet "defender of man" is shorter
< 1372218009 217532 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the characters are something like, asia history mountain large
< 1372218032 62828 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a pretty good name
< 1372218092 838266 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yàlìshāndà
< 1372218110 742514 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :亚历山大
< 1372218123 256873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy is p. g. name
< 1372218158 821953 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i figure i can get by with the last two, which also makes it a lot easier to write
< 1372218275 79740 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think i'm stuck with the surname 拉普 since i found a people's daily article referring to my father with that surname
< 1372218410 266317 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for ge'ez, uh probably ለከሰነደረ or ለከሰነደ
< 1372218531 232328 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet
< 1372219078 506678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have put my own name into Japanese by translating "Aaron" normally but translating "Black" by the meaning instead.
< 1372219123 669740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have been told that probably the more proper meaning to use for translation is "blacksmith", but I just used "black" instead.)
< 1372219130 245151 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :アーロンlike that?
< 1372219140 740300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yes, like that.
< 1372220687 15745 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372223099 63128 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1372223172 715025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone transliterate my name to japanese please
< 1372223195 78964 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :シャハフ
< 1372223234 652934 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :or シャチャフ but I don't think that would get pronounced right
< 1372223773 425931 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :共同カボチャ
< 1372223846 947844 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is this you http://www.aaronblack.com/
< 1372224950 424633 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372224974 657599 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi
< 1372224984 211358 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I awake
< 1372225019 748294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time Taneb
< 1372225020 150294 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Wed Jun 26 06:36:59
< 1372225031 698776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you slept yet
< 1372225163 488323 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-153-154.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes
< 1372226356 462367 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No
< 1372226364 351082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few other people with the same name too
< 1372226376 537818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even if you look in Wikipedia you will see it)
< 1372226439 590283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should there be a rule in Pokemon game that if if you use the attack to switch the item with an opponent, and one of them has some mail, that it should display the contents of the mail to the other player before the attack fails?
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< 1372230346 250427 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the probability of some event is 200%, and then after that probability is calculated you will toss a coin, and if it comes up heads then you will cancel it, then does that make the event certain?
< 1372230374 283195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a probability of 200%?
< 1372230407 75440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twice as much as a probability of 100%, of course.
< 1372230428 184145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean?
< 1372230496 425772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is what it means!
< 1372230523 58975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it?
< 1372230540 350459 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are new and strange probability axioms, zzo.
< 1372230592 229973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are new? I thought they are the same as the other one except that I wrote "200%" and so on.
< 1372230702 63751 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't have events with p > 1 under kolmogorov axioms.
< 1372230723 927911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I didn't explain very well. This might be better: There is a device that has a 200% chance of functioning if it is activated. You will toss a fair coin, and if it comes up tails you will activate the device and if it is heads then you won't activate it. From these premises, is it certain that the device will function?
< 1372230753 831213 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, i just see "200%" and stop reading, what does that mean.
< 1372230840 486204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you explain what a probability of something means in general rather than in specific?
< 1372230993 154095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well, the probability axioms go like this.
< 1372231035 459167 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first you have a set called the "sample space", which is stuff that can happen. you define a sigma-algebra on that, the "events", subsets of the sample space. and you have a probability measure : event -> [0,1]
< 1372231116 104835 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first axiom is that the probability measure is always positive (implied by my type signature but w/e). the second is that P(the whole sample space) = 1. the third is that P(countable union of events) = sum P(each event in the union)
< 1372231169 866681 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this implies for instance that A subset B -> P(A) <= P(B), and along with the second axiom this makes "200% probability" incoherent.
< 1372231171 789754 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disjoint union right
< 1372231175 669703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if you mean something else, you should explain that.
< 1372231179 750091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disjoint union, yeah.
< 1372231206 354558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can see how, but what you omit the first axiom and type signature?
< 1372231253 681435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, I think the first axiom is wrong even in ordinary probabilities because it could be zero which doesn't count as a positive number.
< 1372231300 53555 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "nonnegative", yes
< 1372231324 263109 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh
< 1372231331 947111 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372231334 853668 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you should write that, if that is what you mean!
< 1372231341 484346 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't write it!! bike did!!
< 1372231353 339111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean you personally.
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< 1372235136 651089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :status: eating cheetos out of a bowl using chopsticks
< 1372235264 468512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you do that so you don't get dirty?
< 1372235300 942641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
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< 1372260946 433054 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: you just won, congrats
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< 1372265190 273876 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: when are you getting married? :P
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< 1372267823 509795 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why i did the axiom thing. that was dumb and sucked. fyi.
< 1372267886 333614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do
< 1372268003 426251 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :texpocalypse
< 1372268030 723258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about the axiom CAS, or...
< 1372268075 707367 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i just responded to zzo with quotation instead of asking him what the heck he meatn
< 1372268099 84323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that thing.
< 1372268130 859867 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Thing
< 1372268232 996666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't necessarily imply that the individual events are not more than one if you are using divergent series, though, I think.
< 1372268265 616005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you do it so that some collections cannot be separated from others)
< 1372268376 124063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if you make up the probability of a random number 0 to 1, the total probability will still be 1 even though all of the individual number being exactly is 0, so it still doesn't work.
< 1372269441 923366 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1372269447 282808 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each of the linear spaces l_2, c_0, c, m, and R^\infty (in that order) is a proper subspace of the next one" well i think i have a new record for shitty math identifiers
< 1372269832 532851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to make up a Famicom cartridge with expansion audio, I think that other than the standard chips included in NROM cartridges, only a AY-3-8910 is added; it will work if you connect it to the PPU address bus. You can even get bank switching if you do this, without needing any other logic for bank switching.
< 1372269899 859364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However, you will not be able to change the music or the bank during rendering.)
< 1372271652 972997 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372271671 192527 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372271682 235993 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372271688 101369 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott :-)
< 1372271998 206734 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers writing a worm to seek out lost files... Stuff that's disappeared from the net, but must be on someone's computer somewhere.

< 1372272077 816136 :surma!uid6361@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dxxqnqdixcpypcru QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1372272627 287749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write a report about what files you are looking for, that could also help a bit.
< 1372272941 331456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big US Supreme Court rulings today in favor of gay marriage
< 1372273030 827954 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372273644 584274 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the texas abortion bill died, woo.
< 1372273661 707319 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone here use an FTP search engine? Which one?
< 1372273696 125324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, after a brief attempt to save it by brazen lying in front of hundreds of thousands of people
< 1372273733 996029 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: What exactly are you looking for
< 1372273744 517468 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372273766 147438 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have procedures, kmc. making someone stand and talk for 13 hours and then stopping time is perfectly reasonable
< 1372273845 78957 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: some old Core War stuff which was mentioned on Usenet about 20 years ago!
< 1372273864 932591 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez. good luck with that.
< 1372273901 67149 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: have you checked the usenet archives?
< 1372273921 492775 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you have the message, just not the files
< 1372273953 510757 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: I've just got the messages, which contain an ftp link (now broken).
< 1372273964 310477 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw new band name: Intrinsically Rhythmogenic Modules
< 1372273984 574098 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, is there a way to download an entire Usenet group? All messages dating back 20+ years? :-)
< 1372274000 861359 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1372274008 149805 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they all on google?
< 1372274013 750431 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some of them
< 1372274067 737775 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: what's the FTP link?
< 1372274075 517671 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're on Google. But I want them here :-)
< 1372274093 957583 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, write a script to download stuff from google
< 1372274163 943729 :calamari!~calamari@173-116-54-43.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372274194 134928 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: so, what's the link?
< 1372274224 254469 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: one is ftp:soda.berkeley.edu/pub/corewar/ incoming/optimapc.exe
< 1372274374 882544 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/19980110070358/http://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/
< 1372274382 197479 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :might get you somewhere
< 1372274395 308204 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might need to pick a later date though
< 1372274412 177213 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure what time this is from)
< 1372274447 832976 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, doesn't seem to be saved anyway :(
< 1372274500 649120 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pnas.org/content/110/26/10465.full lol.
< 1372274535 14359 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: what about contacting them?
< 1372274544 526297 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PART :#esoteric
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< 1372274603 835144 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried contacting first :-) No luck. I didn't realise wayback archived ftp.
< 1372274612 366157 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't
< 1372274624 426241 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the web archive of their own ftp :)
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< 1372277633 589308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* turns out screen ruins the use of the pgup/pgdn keys on my numpad (turning them into 9 and 3 keys regardless of my laptop's general setting), which are of course the most sanely placed versions on this keyboard.
< 1372277700 536116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's screen on debian started remotely via putty on windows, fwiw)
< 1372277728 498788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: try tmux hth
< 1372277877 172321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh that's even installed
< 1372277928 320014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try dtachhth
< 1372277931 351035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/dtach/dtach /
< 1372277942 664562 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dtach is nice
< 1372277963 317078 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I stopped at "ruins" since that statement is always true
< 1372277989 61796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dtach is _not_ installed yet though...
< 1372278005 626474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: OKAY
< 1372278045 459491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dtach is great because it doesn't do anything.
< 1372278050 162623 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know whatever terminal problem I have it's not dtach's fault.
< 1372278060 156247 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw, that sounds like a putty misconfiguration
< 1372278064 65013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :check you don't have "nethack mode" or whatever on
< 1372278071 806788 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I'm misremembering
< 1372278084 366201 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I don't think screen even knows about your numpads and whatnot
< 1372278105 814265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's set at "Normal" also pgdn/pgup works fine if _not_ using screen.
< 1372278108 189983 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably something wrong with your terminal emulator.
< 1372278136 526549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: screen always emulates vt100, afaiu
< 1372278169 886853 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I don't see any difference with pageup/down between screen and not screen
< 1372278170 540806 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can change a config setting to make it poorly emulate something else
< 1372278172 60445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and TERM=xterm outside it...
< 1372278178 259441 :calamari!~calamari@173-116-54-43.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Quit: Bye
< 1372278182 523524 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Checked via cat|xxd)
< 1372278183 394461 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of poorly emulating vt100
< 1372278215 878692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: btw the _other_ pgup/pgdn keys on top of the keyboard which are hard to reach, work fine.
< 1372278244 221617 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I tried both actual pagedown and numpad pagedown
< 1372278248 137842 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No difference whatsoever on my setup.
< 1372278259 891094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: screen's unicode support is broken hth
< 1372278262 749270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you should use tmux
< 1372278284 684680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: OKAY (i did use the -U option fwiw)
< 1372278293 400076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: still broken hth
< 1372278308 455724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (For 4-byte sequences, i.e. anything not in the BMP.)
< 1372278523 599697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
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< 1372278846 120885 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1372279236 879915 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.243.202 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372279367 815363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372279560 648771 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dear xxxx, I was just wondering if you still have a copy of xxxx.zip which you uploaded 22 years ago? Thanks" <- Worth a try :-) Luckily I found a current email address.
< 1372279701 320024 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 NICK :nooodl
< 1372280329 952790 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know what the first 2 dimensional programming language was?
< 1372280353 86397 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not befunge?
< 1372280371 469130 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall one before befunge
< 1372280384 531544 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Biota!
< 1372280388 839926 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Biota
< 1372280391 289185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah.
< 1372280570 178477 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, that was the one I was looking for.  There were a couple of other before Befunge too.
< 1372281208 8897 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbpevddunpqrpfbp QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1372281286 97382 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bslrgpdvhaxzyjaj QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1372281733 495020 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372281741 159141 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372281795 283129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372281882 44570 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey!!
< 1372281893 531485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out there was a putty option too
< 1372281905 783207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome bresilsalumbizim
< 1372281908 671309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, trying tmux
< 1372281909 334028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11b14res11ilsalumbizim: Welco12me13 to the03 in10ternational hub for e14sot10eric programm13ing la08ng12uage d03esign a10nd de14ployment! F10or11 more 04informati09on, check out our wiki: http://eso08langs.10org/wiki/Main_Page03. (For the oth14er kind12 of es12oterica, try #e11so06teric on ir12c05.dal.n09et.)
< 1372281943 959389 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey!! what's up
< 1372281959 153681 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything at once
< 1372281973 897866 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what
< 1372281979 880092 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge
< 1372281994 116963 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha ok
< 1372282055 130372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although admittedly it would also be nice if the wireless were stable enough that putty didn't disconnect all the time.
< 1372282067 892095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: more on that thing i linked you a billion years ago: http://storify.com/camp2013/learning-learning-learning "Led a great session on investigation for #ttcCamp13 this morning at this rate the participants will have brought down a government by Friday"
< 1372282082 718623 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Get mosh
< 1372282109 340886 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has some intelligence for laggy connections + most importantly survives disconnects
< 1372282140 795614 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is this????
< 1372282156 884706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: i'm on windows 8 hth
< 1372282161 855632 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is what
< 1372282176 592938 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :every thing
< 1372282184 703875 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you can get LInux or something free from the internet
< 1372282188 846871 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on I'll find a download link
< 1372282194 975853 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of things are fuck
< 1372282195 653075 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo
< 1372282242 706229 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :am using macintosh sooo fuck linux lol
< 1372282291 252499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: shut up hth
< 1372282302 40988 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even hth
< 1372282325 875991 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheheh...
< 1372282341 650138 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a hth
< 1372282349 348153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth
< 1372282351 33125 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
< 1372282370 806188 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dafuq
< 1372282389 715550 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where  u gays coming from?
< 1372282397 333525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: i am recently quite convinced that i am sufficiently cursed that changing to linux will only bring me a different but equally obnoxious set of annoyances.
< 1372282408 609244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bresilsalumbizim: *guys hth
< 1372282425 967646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although yes, there are _some_ gays here too.)
< 1372282442 846506 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm...i will love to see the
< 1372282468 793333 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am from a computer
< 1372282478 953145 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp
< 1372282484 221475 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am to a computer.
< 1372282502 588498 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how can i help?
< 1372282536 868036 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :be computer
< 1372282562 928429 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe nop am a parson not a computer
< 1372282589 178533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think we get many parsons here
< 1372282613 258205 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then u have one.
< 1372282674 393396 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno about parsons but I could probably hook you up with some parsley
< 1372282676 111094 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ZFfRqsz.jpg
< 1372282740 200213 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1372282764 278180 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what am i going to use it for? u punk ass
< 1372282804 823727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could spread it on food hth
< 1372282829 638305 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe mix it up with some lard
< 1372282832 21515 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a bowl
< 1372282843 648188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :people do that?
< 1372282848 540816 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont need that shiit
< 1372282863 981212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bresilsalumbizim: hey eat up your greens
< 1372282895 369312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should op kmc so he can ban this guy.
< 1372282919 92091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you should op elliott so he can op kmc so he can ban this guy
< 1372282924 431868 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also acceptable
< 1372282926 30184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what, already?
< 1372282937 683320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sounds like a plan.
< 1372282949 334621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well have you noticed he's joined the channel and insulted people a lot and not said anything on-topic, hth.
< 1372282978 221462 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dont u come and eat it with me?
< 1372282981 524329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i guess technically you are correct, as always
< 1372282988 713142 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just boring here
< 1372282988 761798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except with some maths)
< 1372283056 676307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bresilsalumbizim: are you really from burundi
< 1372283067 838591 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i am
< 1372283071 161256 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?
< 1372283082 498008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not many from africa here
< 1372283094 533768 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh!! ok that's why
< 1372283098 451859 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a south african don't we
< 1372283107 766112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato
< 1372283114 535109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but he's not here very often
< 1372283173 439671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he passed by a couple weeks ago
< 1372283183 637748 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so where you guys from?
< 1372283190 644923 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham
< 1372283198 295511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly europe and north america
< 1372283216 205835 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh!! that's cool..
< 1372283247 976744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you mean mostly Helsinki and Hexham
< 1372283252 322346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too.
< 1372283262 961364 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, Hexham's in Europe
< 1372283271 264762 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I presume Helsinki is in North America
< 1372283282 974051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... I have bad news about Finland for you, Taneb.
< 1372283294 958823 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dint know that ths app wound work so i just tryed
< 1372283317 232504 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did helsinki.fi just move it's user pages?
< 1372283424 110728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is pretty well known that finland is close to russia, and far from japan
< 1372283498 916664 :bresilsalumbizim!~bresilsal@ws5.onatel.bi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372284033 304913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: see no need for bans hth
< 1372284068 549677 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now about that semen_dickman guy in the logs...
< 1372284159 35751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nanana i cant hear you
< 1372284178 810358 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"US got NSA leaker Edward Snowden's middle name wrong, says Hong Kong"
< 1372284198 397489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well finland is close to russia and russia is close to japan, so finland can't be that far off
< 1372284204 167538 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1372284226 268317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: russia is not transitive hth
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< 1372284281 187444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what about the trans-siberian railway
< 1372284284 856755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like transit to me
< 1372284311 319237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that doesn't go to japan though
< 1372284334 148958 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1372284338 452314 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hilights on transit and trains

< 1372284355 710996 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow you really are a kmcfrien
< 1372284357 100510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a trainspotter!
< 1372284382 486441 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372284495 175043 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372284530 732781 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Goodness* this DOMA strikedown makes things interesting/confusing.
< 1372284557 665648 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so?
< 1372284576 716116 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is now possible to be married on a federal level but not a state level.
< 1372284595 952408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it got turned upside down? :P
< 1372284599 96562 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1372284611 536748 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gay marriage: the exact opposite of pot
< 1372284628 455856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a slogan
< 1372284635 929842 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is marriage done on a federal level?  I thought it was handled by states, and the law was about whether or not the federal government acknowledged it
< 1372284640 416178 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda funny they didn't touch section 2 even though it looks like the opposite of article iv of the constitution
< 1372284641 313441 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's the whole full faith and credit thing (?)
< 1372284663 135632 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that.
< 1372284676 165654 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: In this case, the fed. would acknowledge marriage done in any state.
< 1372284687 844735 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But your state of residence might *not* acknowledge it.
< 1372284701 791446 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, from a federal POV you are married.
< 1372284706 31657 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not from your state's.
< 1372284708 861070 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, if someone got married in california, some other state is legally allowed to not acknowledge it?
< 1372284716 163805 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By DOMA, yes.
< 1372284717 412045 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what section 2 does.
< 1372284731 402510 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that... a violation of article 4 section 1? @_@
< 1372284737 626703 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With... some oddities, like Oklahoma being forced to put an adoptive gay couple on a kid's birth certificate
< 1372284745 308284 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because yeah it's pretty blatantly unconstitutional
< 1372284760 863831 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with the "marriage tourism" thing then, where people visit another state to get married, how does that work
< 1372284801 267085 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: People feel as though going through the "marriage" thing officializes the relationship.
< 1372284838 517644 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it probably will once the stupid thing dies, but.
< 1372284867 2145 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh    it says in some places that they just outright struck the law, but some people are saying only section 3...?
< 1372284872 611195 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think they could sue for back taxes. :P
< 1372284877 13041 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: It was only section 3.
< 1372284891 972597 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Section 2 was simply not affected by this case.
< 1372284898 366871 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was literally not at issue ever)
< 1372284923 592944 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll probably get contested soon, what with being a *blatant* violation of full faith and credit.
< 1372284937 131485 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :supremecourt.gov doesn't work at all w/o www :(
< 1372284958 848854 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway US v. windsor, right? http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf
< 1372284968 593532 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1372284978 866477 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia said "Section 2, which allows states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages performed in states where such marriage is legal, was not at issue in the Windsor case but the entire Defense of Marriage Act was deemed unconstitutional" but I don't know
< 1372284982 381363 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone wants to see it themselves (i already read a supreme court decision this month, that's enough)
< 1372284991 267074 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i saw that too but it looked like a shitty edit.
< 1372284994 801238 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :<
< 1372284994 864784 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, you know. wikipedia.
< 1372285014 237768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the decision's there if you want to find out for real.
< 1372285101 589397 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's vague.
< 1372285112 744336 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray.
< 1372285117 777361 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "Section 2 was not at issue". But it also says "DOMA is unconstitutional."
< 1372285223 551348 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should read it just to get infuriated at whatever scalia's dissent is (no)
< 1372285395 80745 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/scalia-thomas-roberts-alito-suddenly-realize-they,32972/
< 1372285400 486545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey can someone join #Sup3rSa1y4n, i hear from #freenode that it auto-klines you.
< 1372285413 559459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: I disclaim responsibility
< 1372285494 242731 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/BryanJFischer/status/350011942242500609 considering following this guy.
< 1372285496 604236 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe not
< 1372285548 513983 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural marriage
< 1372285568 379625 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no chemicals!  all natural
< 1372285572 744394 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural marriage more like anti-nazi 5ever marriage
< 1372285703 776016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops out of free onions
< 1372285789 239821 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chemicals are so horrible. I found out they have added DHMO to our food.
< 1372285904 214183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: doesn't the full faith and credit clause say that Congress can regulate how full faith and credit is to be applied?
< 1372285935 660732 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1372285950 578040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the legislature shall, by general laws, prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings, shall be proved, and the effect which judgments, obtained in one state, shall have in another."
< 1372285965 646371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er that's a draft version, the final is "And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."
< 1372285968 183513 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No.
< 1372286005 265182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no?
< 1372286056 182464 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PART :#esoteric
< 1372286062 242915 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That states that Congress may regulate how the acts of other states shall be demonstrated.
< 1372286078 125562 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1372286082 455436 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not give Congress any way to *prevent* the application.
< 1372286137 841376 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is to say, Congress may regulate marriage certificates. The forms themselves.
< 1372286162 443472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has been ruled in a previous court case?
< 1372286225 609771 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was the basis on which interracial marriage was legalized.
< 1372286259 358568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372286290 497015 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? was there a DOMA analogue?
< 1372286330 966177 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was never an anti-interracial-marriage DOMA
< 1372286349 919439 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think interracial marriages were always recognized where they were legal
< 1372286355 646770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, I just realised who TeruFSX is.
< 1372286469 46911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1372286544 764588 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man. The reason HK refused to extradite Snowden was because they got his middle name wrong (and one other thing, but)
< 1372286551 755966 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they = the US, I mean
< 1372286562 713771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nomic
< 1372286570 909032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372286575 606553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: best excuse
< 1372286578 794394 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: That’s hilarious.
< 1372286595 844057 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments are good right here
< 1372286615 285785 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone in the US government was intentionally sabotagin the extradition attempt. The empire is imploding from the inside.
< 1372286616 724341 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the sass in their refusal was the best thing
< 1372286621 895224 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inorite
< 1372287363 544890 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:c89d:fd58:e43c:a85 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372288511 490953 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://heh.fi/tmp/1007.png
< 1372288747 346096 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:c89d:fd58:e43c:a85 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes)
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< 1372290046 578665 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2GB RAM. Running Eclipse and at least one other Java-based application from cygwin
< 1372290057 988052 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-C-ing TOOK A MINUTE OR TWO
< 1372290065 504165 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-C SHOULD NEVER TAKE THAT LONG
< 1372290449 963697 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahahah
< 1372290632 417507 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did I ever survive on 512 MB when I was younge?
< 1372290634 381873 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :younger?
< 1372290655 14625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :software was simpler
< 1372290671 169653 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And designed with 512 MiB in mind.
< 1372290831 968857 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of interesting to see how like, game memory usages seem to have stopped growing at around ~2GB for the past few years
< 1372290839 73066 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/register-number-one,32928/
< 1372290843 332889 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if they went beyond that they'd have to drop 32-bit support, I think
< 1372290845 532967 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A neutral character in a Kelly comic???
< 1372290857 531058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when RAM is not as scarce, you can develop programs faster, make them less buggy and more secure, and more people can help
< 1372290876 571474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a reasonable tradeoff for buying $15 more of RAM imo
< 1372290905 92527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of people cry "software bloat" but that's usually an arrogant, lazy non-explanation
< 1372290977 185844 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing with games a lot of it is taking advantage of the extra memory to store textures or the like, and keeping track of a really big world state
< 1372290991 595362 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eclipse and Tomcat servlets are not games
< 1372291030 882940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the only winning move is not to play
< 1372291045 654766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's because a lot of games are cross-platform and the Xbox 360 specs have been the same since 2005
< 1372291050 903657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only has 512 MB of RAM (!)
< 1372291065 778216 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've played many games that are console ports recently
< 1372291070 543953 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried using NetBeans. At least got an IDE that lagged only at sensible times
< 1372291074 929513 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.  like.  I have but I've played them on consoles <.<
< 1372291085 219856 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-C was still hell though
< 1372291109 635301 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the real reason we need lots of RAM though is so I can run ECM factoring on tswett's number)
< 1372291118 15223 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think sixty seconds to end a program being hell is a bit overblown, although maybe i'm saying that because i'm looking at a picture of a kid with his skull ripped up.
< 1372291161 307842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nine circles, Bike.
< 1372291162 453192 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PS3 has similar amounts of RAM.
< 1372291166 984696 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wii has... less.
< 1372291180 954121 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: huh what
< 1372291191 402515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sixty seconds to end a program is just the first circle.
< 1372291196 940302 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1372291198 792365 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: here, I'll make it easier for you.
< 1372291205 152745 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's kind of interesting to see how like, game memory usages seem to have stopped growing at around ~2GB for the past few years
< 1372291210 10827 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you're used to a development cycle of constantly trying the program, seeing it work or not work, fixing and restarting, it could be annoying
< 1372291214 584439 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the factors begins with 645041.
< 1372291217 700873 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that because of console memory limitations
< 1372291234 377747 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, at least one of the factors ends with 1, 3, 7, or 9.
< 1372291255 369752 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT WAS MY NUMBER
< 1372291272 221813 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i can't say it's entirely a bad thing, i've heard stories about pc gaming in the early 2000s)
< 1372291294 829408 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah but like, I'm thinking of PC games mostly   and I notice they all run 32-bit binaries <.<
< 1372291297 825346 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cap out at 2GB or so
< 1372291316 54102 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1372291320 468280 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... does... does knowing the first digits of a factor actually help any factoring algorithms?
< 1372291337 766219 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trial division.
< 1372291347 543638 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the best algorithm"
< 1372291356 460921 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure there's no small prime factors though
< 1372291362 195387 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, after running this much ECM on it
< 1372291378 107117 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would advise you not to try to factor it.
< 1372291386 487675 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not :<
< 1372291402 937381 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's extremely unlikely to work, if I've done my homework correctly.
< 1372291408 833409 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I might have done my homework incorrectly.
< 1372291413 439318 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the other 7 cores doing the general number field sieve are for!
< 1372291422 719298 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number you're trying to factor is 35 844 088 ... 908 841, right?
< 1372291425 151372 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eighth core is otome games
< 1372291430 605738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yess~~
< 1372291439 745137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is eighth, like, a helpful eight
< 1372291446 549608 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372291459 935430 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wish to learn what the factors are, I suggest bribing me.
< 1372291462 164244 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECM says it'll take about 8000 curves to catch an 80-digit factor, though I'm guessing it's the worst case and they're both 100 digits
< 1372291471 376044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's actually how you spell eighth. weird
< 1372291482 412734 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj
< 1372291506 596461 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did you think it’s spelled?
< 1372291509 875225 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, looks like they're both 100 digits.
< 1372291527 360917 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you generate them or something with like a probable prime thing?
< 1372291541 964102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is going to be driven by obsession to factoring them and will accidentally break all standard encryption algorithms in the process
< 1372291547 136308 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol yes
< 1372291548 791892 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez I'm just playing around -_-
< 1372291550 821540 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some large prime number generator online.
< 1372291552 653527 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used that.
< 1372291553 826129 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: how long does it take to factor 8616460799
< 1372291553 960916 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how the actual math works
< 1372291560 979553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it'll be an accident!
< 1372291586 588860 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora driven by obsession to understand what all this type theory crap is, accidentally proves ZFC inconsistent
< 1372291591 928972 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I used some ECM applet to test whether or not one of them was prime.
< 1372291593 978151 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that good okay ._.
< 1372291600 221822 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It said that yes, it's prime.
< 1372291608 183902 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I tried to test the other one, but it wouldn't work.
< 1372291611 578411 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think using gnfs to factor that would be like using a nuclear weapon to sterilize a needle
< 1372291642 621954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  Fiora: how long does it take to factor 8616460799   Bike: I think using gnfs to factor that would be like using a nuclear weapon to sterilize a needle
< 1372291646 229652 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea you'll probably have to use millicycles as your unit
< 1372291647 444155 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1063)  Fiora: how long does it take to factor 8616460799   Bike: I think using gnfs to factor that would be like using a nuclear weapon to sterilize a needle
< 1372291648 521078 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonetheless
< 1372291659 360916 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also now i want to sterilize a needle like that
< 1372291662 510254 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the constant factor in gnfs is atrociously awfully terribly bad
< 1372291665 452351 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean. standard procedure is already alcohol fire
< 1372291697 13756 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you all know The 8616460799 Story i hope)
< 1372291704 674347 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what story
< 1372291715 954798 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 8616460799 Story, hth.
< 1372291718 552658 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you listening?
< 1372291735 399187 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8616460799
< 1372291739 53606 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1372291743 526504 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathworld.wolfram.com/JevonsNumber.html
< 1372291759 700938 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.  jevons... huh
< 1372291774 187855 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This became known as Jevons' Number and was factored by Derrick Norman Lehmer in 1903[13] and later on a pocket calculator by Solomon W. Golomb.[14]" hah.
< 1372291784 747837 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he tell people to fuck off if they asked what the factors are
< 1372291788 283741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no. I'm taking this to the grave"
< 1372291797 591217 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... lehmer.  golomb
< 1372291804 115495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Trial division. <-- i think it can also help that algorithm i vaguely recall based on x^2 - y^2 = (x+y)(x-y)
< 1372291805 816340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that... Lucas-Lehmer Lehmer?  and Golomb code Golomb?
< 1372291822 815326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is particularly good when the factors are _close_)
< 1372291831 871230 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadratic sieve?
< 1372291857 904263 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: golomb yes, lehmer no
< 1372291870 135833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's the guy who wrote the coal thing.
< 1372291871 151815 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lehmer you're thinking of is the son of the lehmer here.
< 1372291875 534893 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@
< 1372291880 298529 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372291884 182062 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1903 was a long time ago, dude!
< 1372291887 84900 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$u -
< 1372291887 304942 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS (-)
< 1372291892 38888 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, twenty years at least
< 1372291900 830417 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's a nice feature.
< 1372291902 409556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also drowned?
< 1372291917 420794 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: no it's Lucas–Lehmer hth
< 1372291920 828541 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also invented economics or whatever.
< 1372291922 485786 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$u –
< 1372291922 559392 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2013 EN DASH (–)
< 1372291943 538647 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :economics more like stupidomics
< 1372291953 244705 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. "Published factorizations include those by Lehmer (1903) and Golomb (1996)." So how many different published factorizations are there?
< 1372291958 90083 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the coal thing known elliott
< 1372291966 470338 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i think it kind of loses its novelty after a while.
< 1372291975 673998 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of eight ways of factoring it into integers alone!
< 1372291977 299302 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It's also "published" in taocp2, though.
< 1372291998 656975 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people sometimes use it as an example now, because jevons was kind of amusingly wrong.
< 1372292013 370616 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how can you factor 8616460799 using a pocket calculator?
< 1372292037 106445 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty easy on a TI.
< 1372292042 39749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the coal thing, you know.
< 1372292045 888825 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Žerovnik, J. "The RSA Cryptosystem in 1873." Obzornik Mat. Fiz. 43, 116-118, 1996. <-- i think i have to check this one out.
< 1372292048 446913 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about on an EL-5806S?
< 1372292051 874447 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i mean is it like well known.
< 1372292055 566182 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i hope that's an asteroid
< 1372292063 788253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well I know about it. I read the Wikipedia article once
< 1372292067 165098 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1372292070 648563 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I use an asteroid as a pocket calculator.
< 1372292076 19389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1372292086 979648 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the coal thing
< 1372292110 700266 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "The Coal Question"
< 1372292110 773025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: isn't lucas-lehmer only for mersenne primes though?
< 1372292111 614804 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coal_Question
< 1372292111 722037 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: The Coal Question - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
< 1372292120 449853 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I dunno.
< 1372292129 378850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$u ꙮ
< 1372292129 597779 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O (ꙮ)
< 1372292136 76245 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a primarily test, not a factoring thing, I thought...
< 1372292137 629307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi dvorakbot
< 1372292137 919018 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey kmc!
< 1372292140 303724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he was all like "WHOA, GUYS, peak oil" in the 1800s
< 1372292142 388393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1372292144 329872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$help
< 1372292155 238517 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas%E2%80%93Lehmer_primality_test ?
< 1372292183 439727 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"s'il vous plaît"?
< 1372292188 186224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "$u $"
< 1372292189 138551 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  $u $
< 1372292195 985332 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorakbot: come on, you were supposed to respond to that.
< 1372292197 984674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "hi dvorakbot"
< 1372292198 908444 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  hi dvorakbot
< 1372292222 222366 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the commands can only occur at the beginning of a line.
< 1372292228 66503 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme look for exceptions.
< 1372292250 680544 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "dvorakbot, help"
< 1372292251 617150 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  dvorakbot, help
< 1372292263 33240 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorakbot: help
< 1372292263 177890 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Hi, I'm a bot. Say ".commands" to me in private for a list of my commands, or see http://inamidst.com/phenny/ for more general details. My owner is tswett.
< 1372292266 378986 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh.
< 1372292271 547647 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$commands
< 1372292294 937294 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, that ought to be working.
< 1372292296 374157 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$beats
< 1372292296 489251 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@054
< 1372292296 591662 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1372292302 868145 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^
< 1372292304 578671 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@beats
< 1372292304 649934 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1372292307 128615 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er.
< 1372292307 980262 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$beats
< 1372292308 59378 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@054
< 1372292308 185284 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1372292312 540023 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://papers.snaffbox.org/php/main/index.php you should tell me if this sucks. thx in advance
< 1372292327 22583 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$at
< 1372292327 219541 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Sorry, didn't understand the time spec.
< 1372292360 551918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: looks a bit unpolished
< 1372292377 821552 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$at now
< 1372292377 930771 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Sorry, didn't understand the time spec.
< 1372292383 782547 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what that's supposed to do.
< 1372292392 438236 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$stats
< 1372292392 597647 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most used commands: u (3), beats (2), at (2), help (1), hello (1), commands (1)
< 1372292393 358390 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :power users: tswett (8), kmc (2)
< 1372292394 142858 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :power channels: #esoteric (10)
< 1372292397 622114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah
< 1372292400 217536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$u fuck yeah
< 1372292400 842237 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Sorry, no results for 'fuck yeah'.
< 1372292406 496803 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congrats on being a power user.
< 1372292416 403993 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, lemme turn on the Dvorak commands.
< 1372292417 141739 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$u ǟ
< 1372292417 287997 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+01DF LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS AND MACRON (ǟ)
< 1372292420 586609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$u $
< 1372292420 795047 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0024 DOLLAR SIGN ($)
< 1372292424 573118 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372292429 543214 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1372292434 705061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip
< 1372292445 559218 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorakbot is dead, never to return.
< 1372292460 685939 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this paper apparently doesn't exist
< 1372292462 457322 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let us celebrate the life of him/her/it/em.
< 1372292462 566193 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointing
< 1372292467 825722 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372292476 673335 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorakbot, you were always such a good friend to us.
< 1372292527 360818 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, who wants to be a card?
< 1372292547 148212 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I wonder what $val and $ngc do.
< 1372292547 695237 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$val
< 1372292548 730048 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Nothing to validate.
< 1372292556 343049 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ngc
< 1372292557 282685 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: No query term.
< 1372292564 157638 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$val http://en.wikipedia.org/
< 1372292565 696713 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://en.wikipedia.org/ is Abort
< 1372292573 709950 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::?
< 1372292588 490475 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs.

< 1372292624 39075 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard kmc
< 1372292624 777635 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 1: kmc
< 1372292626 99752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$val mother of monsters
< 1372292627 398329 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://mother is Abort
< 1372292633 42918 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1372292634 279506 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: congratulations, you're Card 1.
< 1372292639 780102 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$val google.com
< 1372292641 164513 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://google.com is Abort
< 1372292656 26707 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$val w3.org
< 1372292657 424389 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://w3.org is Valid
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< 1372292681 392520 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$tock
< 1372292682 316834 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thu, 27 Jun 2013 00:24:41 GMT" - tycho.usno.navy.mil
< 1372292725 76873 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have too much fun.
< 1372292741 730136 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're in #dvorak-game.
< 1372292746 244981 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :$val elliott
< 1372292747 650876 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://elliott is Abort
< 1372292754 407988 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: FYI, HTH.
< 1372292799 236989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1372292817 99903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :$val oerjan.nvg.org
< 1372292819 467641 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://oerjan.nvg.org is Invalid (1 error)
< 1372292825 448321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
< 1372292827 251718 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1372293001 341353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this dvorak game
< 1372293004 553569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's the only winning move
< 1372293059 793807 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to play?
< 1372293197 670180 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rewatches the thick of it

< 1372293209 246943 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they really were great at writing meaningless political bullshit
< 1372293230 125037 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the only winning move is AOEUIDHTNS
< 1372293231 698708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :season 2 of Veep just ended
< 1372293431 285563 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372294391 494715 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is veep as good
< 1372294515 221589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't compare, but it's very good
< 1372294525 704781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's hard to compare the two
< 1372294552 864046 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they compare to yes minister
< 1372295114 542673 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_
< 1372297276 664726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-email/   oh geez XD
< 1372297352 344423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372297352 898301 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372297359 197526 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
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< 1372297567 458398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Google could use some SEO!
< 1372297569 374535 :elliott_1!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372297569 685353 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bing.com/search?q=search+engine
< 1372297621 894717 :elliott_1!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott
< 1372297624 235618 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, not even on the front page of https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=search+engine
< 1372297630 402982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_1: who are you and what have you done... darn
< 1372297785 241008 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372297788 886123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott
< 1372297791 321709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + oerjan
< 1372297826 580516 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot already reconnected.
< 1372297834 48581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1372297840 870572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not when I sent a /msg.
< 1372297854 155900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no lambdabot
< 1372297864 964962 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate
< 1372297970 338456 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it joins slowly
< 1372297980 20481 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372298000 941213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slithering through the channels
< 1372298287 422880 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1372299272 667485 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.wolfram.com/2013/06/26/is-there-any-point-to-the-12-times-table/ this is cool + totally unnecessary
< 1372299347 929503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do mental multiplication at all
< 1372299418 262909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i bet you learned the × table all the way to 2!!
< 1372299432 89700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Take that, factorial jokesters.)
< 1372299885 28658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnyte
< 1372300416 510741 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372301494 752128 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :any of you guys possibly know of a mathematical study of tower defense type games?
< 1372301523 606599 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what respect
< 1372301576 140981 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1372301585 348852 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a maximum amount of damage you are capable of inflicting at any point
< 1372301595 93187 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :a maximum amount of resources you are able to have acquired
< 1372301596 115192 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc.
< 1372301721 444186 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about "Mathematical methods of organizing and planning production", kantorovich
< 1372301745 688769 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o
< 1372301747 463718 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :will check it out
< 1372301988 644265 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, will have to read in more depth
< 1372301996 735872 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/quickfix/1/9/4/188194.jpg?v=2 dark secrets of the NSA
< 1372303551 441180 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://preview.reuters.com/2013/6/12/exclusive-snowden-as-a-teen-online-anime-and-1 i'm gonna die.
< 1372303664 18597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god.
< 1372303705 671818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reuters viewed the website on Tuesday and contacted former company employees for comment. On Wednesday, the website had been taken down.
< 1372303756 971296 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presidential elections in ~20 years will be pretty amazing
< 1372303767 658675 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the candidates will have embarrassed themselves terribly on like, facebook and stuff as kids
< 1372303775 430260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might even have, like, a deviantart
< 1372303781 563989 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where they drew sonic fanart
< 1372303835 161541 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go fast, a slogan for the future
< 1372303966 802366 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I stand by my motto today, as I did then"
< 1372303974 767001 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we gotta go fast, towards the future."
< 1372304086 361976 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and thirdly, tifa would TOTALLY do aeris. no further questions"
< 1372305191 126491 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.markturner.net/2010/05/09/the-compelled-certificate-creation-attack/ this attack was worth people writing a paper about it?
< 1372305233 828893 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh "We reveal alarming ev-
< 1372305234 30201 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idence that suggests that this attack is in ac-
< 1372305234 50322 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tive use."
< 1372305234 991034 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah
< 1372305445 215882 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thus, any web browser that depends upon Mi-
< 1372305445 292387 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crosoft's Trusted Root Store (such as Internet Ex-
< 1372305445 313255 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plorer, Chrome and Safari for Windows) ultimately
< 1372305445 313461 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trusts 264 dierent CAs to issue certicates without
< 1372305445 313569 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning, although only a handful of them are listed
< 1372305445 975347 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the operating system's user interface."
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< 1372307475 761934 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.
< 1372307620 753304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with #haskell
< 1372308050 42319 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372309996 687118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now
< 1372310040 839287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing it's passed
< 1372310056 901080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k
< 1372310068 700994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1011817_10100526803867865_340272139_n.jpg  SF city hall
< 1372310078 144339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there may be "long term crises""" going on but we'll see about that
< 1372310095 862141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :city hall more like pretty hall
< 1372310442 97036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :City hall more like Crayola box hall.
< 1372310832 666849 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Park new england is weird
< 1372310851 509426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https plz
< 1372310876 749905 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Park shachaf is weird
< 1372310884 345478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx hth
< 1372311256 488175 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372311956 98709 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: new jersey \not\in new england
< 1372312016 221775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :jersey ∉ england, either
< 1372312017 559790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works out
< 1372312061 572929 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑
< 1372312194 857544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Action Park Shachaf
< 1372312369 398004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wht about it
< 1372312471 637169 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird
< 1372313820 87901 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1372314977 652888 :printfn!~printfn@154.129.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372315003 268000 :printfn!~printfn@154.129.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust
< 1372315003 698763 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust   . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/
< 1372316055 63705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the Tank Ride sounds fucking awesome though
< 1372316093 278680 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1372316355 224384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Employees at the park used to like eating at a nearby snack bar with a good view of [Surf Hill], since it was almost guaranteed that they could see some serious injuries, lost bikini tops, or both"
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< 1372318047 297249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: how's mac lane going
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< 1372318668 953120 :moorcock.freenode.net MODE #esoteric +v kmc : 
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< 1372319508 661083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Freenode
< 1372319514 941551 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07Freenode: Welco09me to12 t14he int07ernat10io02nal hub for eso06teric programming language design and09 d12epl08oyment12! For more informatio10n, check ou06t our w07iki11: http://esol03angs.org/wik08i/Ma05in_Page. (Fo04r the other kind o02f e05s09ot06erica, 10t13ry #esoter02i12c 14on i12r05c.dal.ne08t.)
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< 1372334870 802190 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 NICK :John_Metcalf
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< 1372338716 688076 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I was just sarcastic on Facebook and now I feel bad
< 1372338844 604749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: stop feeling bad hth
< 1372338852 709222 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay!
< 1372338855 473448 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, shachaf
< 1372338858 344559 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That did help.
< 1372338866 97607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be $5,000 hth
< 1372338887 71842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you don't pay you'll feel bad about not paying me)
< 1372338922 719658 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how not bad I feel
< 1372338950 775396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like i overdid it "oops"
< 1372339297 496368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How's `olist going?
< 1372339314 545802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Does thread count matter?
< 1372341064 349373 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god I have 14 channels on autojoin on this server alon!
< 1372341065 526818 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e
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< 1372341498 147398 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf I only have 11 channels
< 1372341502 262512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the hell are you
< 1372341868 57000 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :##fiora, #0x10c-dev, #0x10c-galaxy, #agda, #esoteric, #esoteric-minecraft, #happs, #haskell, #haskell-lens, #haskell-web, #pbsideachannel, #snapframework, #yesod
< 1372341889 272310 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#dwarffortress
< 1372341976 696157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You should turn channel hiding off!
< 1372342012 479875 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm...
< 1372342014 258713 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how
< 1372342099 703226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell are you in #happs
< 1372342107 3176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Uh, maybe it's mode -i?
< 1372342113 303434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :correction why the hell are you in half of those
< 1372342126 445721 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, when I am bored I like to throw Haskell web frameworks at eachother
< 1372342144 383607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That accounts for 4
< 1372342247 599858 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, uh, it's not -i.
< 1372342531 990485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Or maybe it is!
< 1372342537 64512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Try /mode Taneb -i
< 1372342547 730869 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay
< 1372342555 88989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, it worked.
< 1372342564 445585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now everyone can see your full channel list.
< 1372342571 184765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day you'll grow up to be ski.
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< 1372345443 183952 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.isg.rhul.ac.uk/tls/biases.pdf http://www.isg.rhul.ac.uk/tls/    geez RC4 keeps getting new attacks
< 1372345515 160243 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i uh don't even know what that is
< 1372345528 313377 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stream cipher!  like the one in WEP and stuff that everyone uses
< 1372345544 621150 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that's really fast and isn't very good
< 1372345561 490731 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy
< 1372345568 209976 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like now they finally have an attack that works on RC4 in general
< 1372345609 124640 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like with WEP it was a problem with badly chosen IVs, not RC4 itself
< 1372345651 247185 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRIME_(security_exploit)  <-- ooh.  this one is fun too
< 1372345670 613699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking advantage of data compression and chosen-plaintexts to leak information about the information in the rest of the packet
< 1372345681 697699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the data compression tells you "what size is the packet after it gets compressed"
< 1372345697 636203 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just 'crime', 'CRIME'
< 1372345762 221955 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the acronyms they make XD
< 1372345782 806140 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why are the attacks called "Lucky Thirteen"?
< 1372345786 112976 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Western culture, 13 is considered an unlucky number. However, the fact that the TLS MAC calculation includes 13 bytes of header information (5 bytes of TLS header plus 8 bytes of TLS sequence number) 
< 1372345790 145321 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is, in part, what makes the attacks possible. So, in the context of our attacks, 13 is lucky - from the attacker's perspective at least. This is what passes for humour amongst cryptographers."
< 1372345882 131988 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kind of distracted atm because i found out they can make transparent mouse brains now
< 1372345894 929583 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :transparent... mouse... brains @_@
< 1372345905 501392 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372345917 264030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves removing all the fat from all the cells and replacing it with a hydrogel mesh
< 1372345922 48660 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that's a thing we can do?!
< 1372345947 773222 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that... won't... kill it?
< 1372346010 626060 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, i'm pretty sure it's dead. but you don't need to slice it up and also it looks sci-fi as hell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeuxiAif9E
< 1372346037 928025 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can trace individual neural projections and stuff
< 1372346059 43455 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same guy invented optogenetics, so, i hope he gets his nobel soon
< 1372346077 752596 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww. transparent living mouse brains would have been a cool thing
< 1372346119 850671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372346130 727312 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still really weird seeing like a photo of a transparent mouse brain
< 1372346139 683940 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can... see through it
< 1372346179 168442 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Dr. Chung said the hydrogel forms a kind of mesh that permeates the brain and connects to most of the molecules, but not to the lipids, which include fats and some other substances. The brain is then put in a soapy solution and an electric current is applied, which drives the solution through the brain, washing out the lipids. Once they are out, the brain is transparent, and its biochemistry is intact, so it may be infused with chemicals, lik
< 1372346216 868722 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«On his laboratory bench, he said, “I have a transparent liver, lungs and heart.”» possibly a wizard?
< 1372346216 949192 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuts off at "infused with chemicals, lik"
< 1372346234 406820 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once they are out, the brain is transparent, and its biochemistry is intact, so it may be infused with chemicals, like antibody molecules that also have a dye attached, that show fine details of its structure and previous activity.
< 1372346263 858691 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm mm mm
< 1372346525 9936 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"infused with chemicals" sounds like some strange alternate-reality marketing copy
< 1372346567 466421 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :infused with a variety of powerful chemicals, Shampoo Tox will make your hair softer, silkier, and atomized"
< 1372346906 56076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infused with a variety of powerful magicks.
< 1372346920 322520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemickals
< 1372346930 451488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ckemickal?
< 1372346946 478072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-141-25.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemykals
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< 1372354998 119668 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372356276 128711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bestdesigntuts.com/top-php-misconceptions-to-avoid
< 1372356303 340914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'But why would you want it to be secure by default, why not write a secure code for it... If you compare it with .NET which helps you with security by default, PHP misses out, but if you are a skilled programmer, you don’t really need “help” with security'
< 1372356462 641916 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372356483 31499 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(????????????what)
< 1372356615 262095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc you are almost as much of a masochist as me
< 1372357004 895393 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.240.220 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372357034 876116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true
< 1372357099 767458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is double funny because if you code in C to show how h4rdc0re you are, it will at least impress people
< 1372357109 470456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you do the same with PHP they will just laugh at you
< 1372357152 548607 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like ur aim is hecked
< 1372357314 871109 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressed by way of why the hell would you write anything in php
< 1372357708 149794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it great how the people who want static types to catch our own mistakes are 'elitists' while the people who say "Real Programmers just don't make mistakes" are the salt of the earth
< 1372357749 859007 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we really need like a hardcore anti-intellectual PHP programmer in here so kmc has someone to talk to
< 1372357774 635243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah i much prefer arguing with strawmen
< 1372358818 995267 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.php-qb.net
< 1372358874 666067 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I could get my boss in here to keep going on and on about CamelCase like that implementation detail matters
< 1372358893 787631 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He knows PHP, Zend, and nothing else
< 1372358898 247893 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :While PHP is an excellent language for building complex web application, it imposes certain limitations.
< 1372358901 267357 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmmh
< 1372358926 900390 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to write overly type hinted PHP to fuck with him
< 1372358975 277178 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already started using array_map and array_reduce all the time to throw him off
< 1372359092 17931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. For some reason, autopano-SIFT is having some trouble finding good keypoints in https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130627-p1180129.jpg
< 1372359103 79264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also: photo of the year 2013?)
< 1372359119 556312 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the /topic
< 1372359162 165878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://io9.com/5938521/the-ultimate-invention-for-telling-your-coworkers-to-screw-themselves
< 1372359443 175553 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you can make [PHP] even more secure if you get a thorough understanding of all its directives"
< 1372359453 908237 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because you'll stop using it altogether
< 1372359456 959445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1372359495 856678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love this attitude where knowing a workaround for a flaw, no matter how awful or tedious, means the flaw doesn't exist in the first place
< 1372359504 976377 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Haskell sucks. I don't have to understand the entire language just to make code that won't explode in my face
< 1372360204 413478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372360365 446186 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lack of operator overloading, etc. can affect the performance of a PHP application"
< 1372360568 867851 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there is something called a Command Line Interface and this can be used to ensure that your PHP applications run outside the web server"
< 1372360571 296988 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOA
< 1372360578 971233 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Command… line… interface?
< 1372360593 997492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/CSbWN6z.jpg
< 1372360757 260596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so this is like the least likely thing
< 1372360764 730001 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does anyone use agda with emacs on os x
< 1372360770 986402 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I have to close an investment account that was opened in 1998, to get monies
< 1372360774 759960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so why do subscripts not show no matter what font i use
< 1372360775 795040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems p. likely, but try #agda?
< 1372360778 25382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe copumpkin does????
< 1372360779 463992 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes
< 1372360790 495052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: uh I think you'll find that questions are only on topic in #esoteric
< 1372360798 133413 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I can do that. that account is, like, pretty old. it's almost able to get a driving permit in some states.
< 1372360799 630620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: ok great please tell me your subscripts were broken and then you found a way to fix them
< 1372360817 945713 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't noticed anything particularly broken before. Screenshot?
< 1372360831 768335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: that account is 3 years younger than me 8|
< 1372360833 921947 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use DejaVu Sans Mono and that always seemed to play nice with it
< 1372360837 758795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: they literally just display as spaces
< 1372360843 195645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I could screenshot it but it seems a little pointless
< 1372360852 309342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you get your emacs / what version is it?
< 1372360881 7041 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I brew install emacs --cocoa --srgb --with-gnutls
< 1372360888 917550 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess 24.3 stable
< 1372360896 400143 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I feel like I might get some kind of award if I leave it open for long enough
< 1372360901 250278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I did the same
< 1372360908 653255 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe without the gnutls part but I doubt that's relevant
< 1372360912 768460 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, the ultimate negotiating trump card, in some circumstance
< 1372360914 322547 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would hope not :D
< 1372360970 947721 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think finance works like that, though
< 1372360973 61749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's something to do with line height or anything
< 1372360975 444266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*or something
< 1372360981 481754 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let me install Agda again. I recently reformatted and I haven't got everything set up, yet.
< 1372360991 317954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright -- thanks :)
< 1372361005 803381 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does M-x describe-face tell you for default?
< 1372361073 74116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inconsolata with nothing particularly interesting-looking in the details -- I do (set-default-font "Inconsolata-16") in my ~/.emacs, but it also happens with every other font I have tried
< 1372361077 27593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the other unicode works fine
< 1372361103 241844 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Have you customized font-locking at all?
< 1372361116 103026 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some option got overwritten by mistake
< 1372361176 617153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not beyond that
< 1372361194 899065 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wow, I just installed Agda after weeks of experimenting with packages from all over the place, and it didn't break once :D
< 1372361717 673608 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372362103 420070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: any luck?
< 1372362131 804091 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1372362177 901389 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, subscripts seem to be working for me
< 1372362187 309499 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1372362244 79287 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d.pr/i/LJB9
< 1372362342 226540 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, man, oh man, I need to change the highlighting for Agda
< 1372362343 458532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd...
< 1372362366 542218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs 24.3.1, you?
< 1372362406 71421 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup
< 1372362431 675250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1372362465 822807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work with other fonts for you?
< 1372362468 459568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just dejavu?
< 1372362468 671415 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the subscript in this file show up? http://d.pr/f/AAji
< 1372362472 547255 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, lemme check
< 1372362530 164597 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: http://i.imgur.com/c9wmiRf.png
< 1372362537 130785 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for me with inconsolata
< 1372362543 671785 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm
< 1372362552 114699 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's a package I have installed that might help
< 1372362589 800 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try M-x package-install unicode-fonts
< 1372362592 104778 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then add (require 'unicode-fonts)
< 1372362592 236116 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unicode-fonts-setup)
< 1372362594 5855 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-229-86.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1372362598 250385 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To your .emacs
< 1372362609 436778 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It adds a little startup time, but it might do the trick
< 1372362662 969106 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's very odd, though. I can't imagine what would cause that
< 1372362683 669415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[No match] for unicode-fonts apparently
< 1372362693 172060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the space seems oddly thin
< 1372362697 488061 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it might only be on MELPA
< 1372362713 184261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what OS X version?
< 1372362714 573772 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372362721 311978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.8.4 here
< 1372362729 463580 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.8.4 here, as well
< 1372362731 521284 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(add-to-list 'package-archives
< 1372362731 802399 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :  '("melpa" . "http://melpa.milkbox.net/packages/") t)
< 1372362784 500970 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me try removing that package and maybe I'll be able to reproduce the issue
< 1372362789 81675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372362812 316474 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha
< 1372362814 101877 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There it is
< 1372362826 648986 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is apparently the issue
< 1372362829 167949 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems weird, what does that package even do
< 1372362855 363553 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/rolandwalker/unicode-fonts#overview
< 1372362901 175069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so I guess the problem is i don't have dejavu sans mono
< 1372362906 849314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you were getting all the glyphs substituted from there
< 1372362938 963560 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I still have DejaVu, now, and my subscripts are gone
< 1372362966 210555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe symbola or something then??
< 1372362973 407074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for your help, anyway
< 1372362978 897985 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have symbola, as well
< 1372362981 374293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will see if I can fix it with this
< 1372363004 18381 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think this is all that's necessary. It's a minor annoyance, but you can switch off fonts to boost startup time
< 1372363037 90219 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's an issue in agda-mode, Emacs, or what.
< 1372363087 209443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh
< 1372363087 727539 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading `/Users/elliott/.emacs':
< 1372363091 240386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Symbol's value as variable is void: package-archives
< 1372363093 7484 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I have to do more stuff to set up this package thing
< 1372363114 633755 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Package is part of Emacs 24, so that should be enough
< 1372363131 544729 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://melpa.milkbox.net/#installing
< 1372363155 988243 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or like this
< 1372363156 727571 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(setq package-archives '(("gnu" . "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/")
< 1372363156 905866 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :                         ("marmalade" . "http://marmalade-repo.org/packages/")
< 1372363156 928661 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :                         ("melpa" . "http://melpa.milkbox.net/packages/")))
< 1372363162 35086 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/IGQZduF.png exclusive picture of me
< 1372363199 968960 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ELPA
< 1372363368 952096 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, The True HOOHA
< 1372363371 534351 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was you all along
< 1372363376 962972 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372363429 952587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: have uyou seen the article that goes witht hat image
< 1372363438 368396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike has a link, it is very good
< 1372363441 593967 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent
< 1372363445 99946 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should tho
< 1372363502 27184 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh actually you have to set the oven on if you want your pizza to be baked
< 1372363508 890608 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody told me that
< 1372363788 65710 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372363792 203935 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: found it on bike's behalf http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/12/us-usa-security-snowden-anime-idUSBRE95B14B20130612
< 1372363807 317051 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the NSA care that I follow Al Jazeera on Twitter?
< 1372363829 398358 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, surprise, Snowden was a fukken nerrrrd
< 1372363838 936935 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is good
< 1372363839 49767 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :al jazeera is pretty weaksauce as evil terrists go
< 1372363876 228397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes up for him supporting ron paul, imo.
< 1372363929 224223 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invest in gold, capitalism is a farce hth
< 1372363966 8643 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :statist capitalism* hth
< 1372364014 715793 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, elliott, why Agda. Errybody knows Idris is the new hotness
< 1372364031 832722 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :invest in bitcoin, prepare for the singularity
< 1372364043 377303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris is... somewhat unpolished in my experience
< 1372364068 813168 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fuck's sake why are you not talking about the actor
< 1372364081 653007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris elba?
< 1372364083 673366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's p. good
< 1372364107 646156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's the guy in luther right
< 1372364111 256460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372364121 146821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i watch that
< 1372364126 292419 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372364127 819324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately that ginger psychopath character put me off
< 1372364137 456706 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that depends what kind of shows you like though
< 1372364140 740003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw like 1½ episodes and i was like "... this is a bit much"
< 1372364175 276945 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna spoil you though superman does not appear in the first season
< 1372364196 154059 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only realized after watching it that it was Luther and not Luthor
< 1372364302 300637 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um
< 1372364302 706153 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372364417 660592 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D http://i.imgur.com/JYGV1K8.jpg
< 1372364432 438135 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, so why did luther keep trusting her that really pissed me off
< 1372364451 931480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he really just seemed to be doing it to make him interesting and dark
< 1372364527 880199 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he just had to get the violins made
< 1372364583 229281 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: awesome.
< 1372364625 895671 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: when did he trust her?
< 1372364638 814886 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he spent half the season trying to protect his family from her
< 1372364675 543624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know he seemed weirdly pally
< 1372364682 174023 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1372364696 68910 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one coffee doesn't make us friends" was wrong apparently
< 1372364704 547574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember but i have this vague recollection that ~feminine wiles~ may have been involved
< 1372364851 19738 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough, I can add funds online to this account, but I can't remove any
< 1372364874 444545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :feminine andrew wiles
< 1372364941 486571 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: with those sexy elliptic curves?
< 1372364953 506720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope so
< 1372365082 469651 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'd like to find a powersmooth region on *your* elliptic curves"
< 1372365126 732217 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is that a pickup line?" "Yeah, here's my two hundred page proof you should find that attractive"
< 1372365208 612058 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.240.220 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372365257 393944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I think you made an error in your proof... here."
< 1372365391 513228 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you meant to point at wiles' penis at this stage
< 1372365446 55126 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great joke ph (a thumb up)
< 1372365513 651611 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I...   was actually thinking at pointing at somewhere in the math
< 1372365531 880292 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you don't have what it takes to flirt with the dorkiest mathematician alive
< 1372365584 127169 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, good showing so far
< 1372365653 505005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he's married, hth
< 1372365902 574576 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: before that I'd need to like, have what it takes to flirt with somewhat dorky biomathematicians who hang out in #esoteric 
< 1372366036 801176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go meta, obviously, they dig that
< 1372366037 63565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, the metaflirt
< 1372366041 912897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you Bike
< 1372366049 314630 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372366070 541218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, that's a failed flirt
< 1372366111 898852 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that
< 1372366114 310031 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was meta
< 1372366115 120864 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or
< 1372366117 642800 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the joke >_<
< 1372366126 861456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't meta
< 1372366194 955620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372366399 348048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: hmm, I seem to have gotten that package source added but unicode-fonts is still nowhere to be found
< 1372366402 778610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is hard.
< 1372366426 294241 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: M-x package-list-packages should download the list
< 1372366438 607312 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or M-x package-initalize or something like that
< 1372366488 417228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, when people talk about emacs being an OS I doubt what they had in mind was that it needed a package manager
< 1372366498 584084 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems to be working though, yay
< 1372366607 268983 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even vim has like 6 competing package managers. At least emacs settled on one
< 1372367401 143843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → airplane → SAN FRANCISCO

< 1372367425 593553 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck!
< 1372367433 458421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1372367445 420442 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember to keep the plane level
< 1372367476 379429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372367481 762759 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cya :)
< 1372367490 923158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc
< 1372367496 336559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye kmc
< 1372367513 654323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I * kmc ✈ SAN FRANCISCO
< 1372367527 803601 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome.
< 1372367579 563205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: don't forget the flour in your hare hth
< 1372367707 121696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't forget the fluoride in your water hth2
< 1372367787 27857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/fluids.jpg
< 1372367831 847897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the 'used by nazis' bit serious
< 1372367833 839442 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaS is a good musician
< 1372367846 767302 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the nazis did fluoridate water
< 1372367856 801718 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, they also banned smoking, etc etc
< 1372367873 344326 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if it causes apathy, who is that sign going to convince?
< 1372367875 2775 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372367876 986691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar
< 1372367884 866317 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1372367891 780887 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you keep saying I,I
< 1372367900 136793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I I,I
< 1372367911 302379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's an owl
< 1372367914 723627 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: maybe i like owls
< 1372367937 75304 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles "water fluoridation nazis", which will surely be informative

< 1372367940 79894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: it works!!! thank you
< 1372367976 834969 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nice. I wonder why that happens, all of a sudden. Maybe Emacs 24 handles unicode differently than 23 did
< 1372368001 47809 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Use Of Flouridation For Mass Mind Control - Rense" hm yes.
< 1372368026 549829 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate the water fluoridation nazis. They totally suck.
< 1372368030 731325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm duh tmux -c does _not_ actually start tmux
< 1372368036 244762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1372368049 914704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372368153 789661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tmux new cmd # hth
< 1372368164 213141 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just run tmux a
< 1372368170 533758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my irc-thing command file says:
< 1372368172 90900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i know, i just assumed -c would be a synonym
< 1372368176 23604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#exec tmux new -A -D -s irc
< 1372368176 130660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec tmux attach -d -t irc # old version of tmux; will attach only
< 1372368192 282975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because my server's tmux is too told to support new -A :'(
< 1372368212 118229 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have (among other things) this in my .tmux.conf: new -d -s0 -nirc 'exec weechat-curses'
< 1372368224 438693 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux a will run that if no tmux session exists. Otherwise it’ll just attach normally.
< 1372368244 995636 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should work with old versions, too.
< 1372368340 671380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tested out a hand-crafted panorama tripod head thing in an *enclosed space* -- and look, no parallax to speak of: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130627-p1180115-162-small.jpg -- shame it's pretty much the most boring hotel room.
< 1372368347 13830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also tested it in the fanciest possible place, this concert stage floating on a cliff-enclosed lake in an old molybdenum mine -- except turns out things that float around actually, well, float around, so the fancy rotate-around-the-no-parallax-point rig did absolutely nothing special at all.
< 1372368368 701170 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Cool. Information about the tripod head anywhere?
< 1372368382 20306 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It looks pretty spacious that way, though
< 1372368387 809646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dtach is much easier to use, hth
< 1372368400 333449 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does dtach support multiple windows?
< 1372368410 803944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but my irc client does
< 1372368427 461130 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What client do you use?
< 1372368455 578955 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you shells, text editors, a torrent client and a log reader in your IRC client?
< 1372368458 170359 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :run
< 1372368477 326340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is CLIENTINFO actually a thing
< 1372368493 952017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Not really; though it's not terribly exciting, I just more or less followed one of the umpteen guides along the lines of "L-shaped piece of metal bolted to a straight piece of metal". There's a picture of it at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130627-panohead.jpg anyway.
< 1372368495 670771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: no, but my terminal emulator has this handy feature whereby it can open multiple ones
< 1372368529 273500 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Alright, thanks
< 1372368537 921942 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Apparently
< 1372368548 62634 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And attach to them from elsewhere?
< 1372368573 40645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think i like tmux thank you very much, also this server doesn't have dtach installed.
< 1372368610 752608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: my terminals are a mess, why would I want to replicate that mess? :)
< 1372368622 262588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, molybdenum mine lake concert stage thing: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130627-p1180390-437-small.jpg
< 1372368733 674156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The cliff doesn't look terribly impressive after the equirectangular squezzling.
< 1372368735 946880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also my main reason for using tmux is that my network connection is flaky, which makes it much simpler to just have to restart _one_ window, sure?
< 1372368737 262397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1372368762 58462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait you actually use putty for more than irssi? :P
< 1372368785 334559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also, ^Bc _is_ more convenient than opening another putty.
< 1372368806 899265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but now if you want bold text you have to press ^B twice
< 1372368832 415908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well not _most_ of the time, but i _do_ have my email, webpage and linux in general on the nvg server...
< 1372368877 390733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: fortunately i rarely want that. screen's ^A was much more annoying, since that's what i've bound to go to start of line
< 1372368937 335599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also i use it to do host or whois whenever i want to check out things to ban (inb4 "that's nearly never!")
< 1372369185 946652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:29:16:  presidential elections in ~20 years will be pretty amazing
< 1372369185 967397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:29:27:  all the candidates will have embarrassed themselves terribly on like, facebook and stuff as kids
< 1372369202 822491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, that waas my situation too.
< 1372369210 536119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (Also you can rebind this key if you want.)
< 1372369212 162329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am hoping this kind of process will make people stop caring about such insignificant things
< 1372369220 347303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i know
< 1372369227 690404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: hah but now \lub shows as a square
< 1372369386 51603 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372369429 547991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You could rebind it in screen if you wanted, too.
< 1372369435 295205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you were too lazy to hth
< 1372369483 514210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i actually rebound it to ^Y in screen, but then i complained about pgup/pgdn not working and people suggested changing to tmux
< 1372369509 255499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372369517 626536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, people
< 1372369517 977164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which actually did nothing to fix the pgup/pgdn issue but people said tmux was better in general
< 1372369540 268415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i fixed that by finding the correct putty setting)
< 1372369589 241767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also i _first_ rebound it to the mnemonic ^S, with what in afterthought should be obvious hilarious results.
< 1372369870 867552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i _knew_ about xon/xoff, but had somehow got the impression it wasn't usually enabled...)
< 1372369959 594985 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Shit, so it does.
< 1372369994 146286 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\u+ is a box, too
< 1372370046 84124 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372370386 104488 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to disable xon/xoff, but somehow it still occasionally happens
< 1372370400 710699 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Q fixes everything though
< 1372370534 139123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: not when you're trying to get an _actual_ ^S through to screen which you are trying to reset without killing it
< 1372370603 989747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately i was in a shell window, and found out screen could be controlled remotely
< 1372370862 611411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb  elliott, when I am bored I like to throw Haskell web frameworks at eachother <- you should make partial lenses to convert between snap and yesod hth
< 1372370862 673118 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1372370862 717487 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1372370878 976394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks kappabot 
< 1372370884 386206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, kappabot. Thappabot.
< 1372371120 70871 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372371144 869037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting
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< 1372371164 132875 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf
< 1372371193 966686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to reconnect in five noisy steps
< 1372371292 12752 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372371405 662894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj is such a household name
< 1372371411 715626 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372371733 256183 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/06/msg00720.html lol.
< 1372372251 161637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that thing shachaf kept bugging everyone about got funded
< 1372372261 300224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: p. crazy huh
< 1372372278 786253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i was expecting it to fail because shachaf was helping
< 1372372286 298931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there we were thinking it was p. not going to make it
< 1372372301 340948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is the joke "shachaf is incompetent" :'(
< 1372372326 765660 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's more like you're anticompetent
< 1372372350 211661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like a useful skill
< 1372372356 682175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would use it to my advatnage except, y'know
< 1372372369 144035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo: join the republican party
< 1372372370 744622 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suspect Phantom_Hoover just likes insulting people for some reason.)
< 1372372841 860810 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: SOLUTION!
< 1372372878 12445 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372373159 609763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how could it not succeed with a cosy name like armikrog
< 1372373278 930011 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott So, it turns out you don't really need all that unicode-fonts nonsense, after all. https://github.com/railwaycat/emacs-mac-port    brew rm emacs, then tap and install this one. I used it a few months back when it was less stable, and it's generally nicer than the current Cocoa port. It even works in terminal, mostly.
< 1372373278 950969 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1372373279 99298 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1372373321 916444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kappabot: @quit
< 1372373322 272271 :kappabot!kappabot@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: requested
< 1372373391 645855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i guess technically this means the duplicate messages will annoy people the next time it joins...
< 1372373406 142640 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1372373464 666396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: hi
< 1372373480 457598 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. deep response
< 1372373500 555391 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c. deep indeed
< 1372373543 490638 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyway, I fixed emacs by getting rid of emacs and getting a different one. And it should also fix it for you
< 1372373562 925029 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonus points because it will actually be nicer in most wayss
< 1372373565 484144 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s
< 1372373610 755378 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The icon is about a thousand times uglier, but who looks at the dock?
< 1372374857 16441 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1372375388 113526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION predicts that the ugly icon will drive elliott absolutely bonkers

< 1372375726 165964 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as much as incomplete Unicode coverage in Agda mode will
< 1372375920 124657 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1372376054 67471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf
< 1372376056 658819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm back in #haskell
< 1372376062 107096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"big day"
< 1372376063 932075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc
< 1372376066 571641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw
< 1372376092 743437 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was just temporary
< 1372376099 169614 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were getting on a plane 
< 1372376105 965601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a while to get on a plane
< 1372376130 79198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :departs in 2 hours 25 mins
< 1372376134 227489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of delay.
< 1372376156 368561 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeesh
< 1372376222 977369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my flight from Boston to SF is delayed due to fog
< 1372376224 611422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ironic
< 1372376236 62213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will you SFO -> SF
< 1372376277 818669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the plane is #haskell
< 1372376278 610913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unclear
< 1372376297 175335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll arrive too late for BART so I'll take SamTrans 292 / 397
< 1372376303 213168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I arrive really late and BART is running again
< 1372376313 216933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I could be a true mission software jerk and take an Uber
< 1372376318 472954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i like this moving to SF and joining #haskell on the same day
< 1372376326 34566 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my head you've been planning this for months
< 1372376335 615487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the day everything changes
< 1372376343 460352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also take one of those shuttles
< 1372376351 226154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1372376356 317371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know shuttles
< 1372376383 111641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the thing you linked to a while ago when i asked about it
< 1372376394 470388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :supershuttle.com etc.
< 1372376447 822691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372376450 15533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those kind of suck
< 1372376455 787316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a thought, yeah
< 1372376469 867340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on where you're going
< 1372376725 601518 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372376769 532800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's bad about those shuttles
< 1372377182 62813 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/0609050v1.pdf
< 1372377245 364493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they are ok in the from-airport direction, I guess
< 1372377248 132061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great title
< 1372377255 604856 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«We consider the 4D effective theory for the light Kaluza-Klein (KK) modes. The heavy KK mode contribution is generally needed to reproduce the correct physical predictions: an equivalence, between the effective theory and the D-dimensional (or geometrical) approach to spontaneous symmetry breaking (SSB), emerges only if the heavy mode contribution is taken into account. This happens even if the heavy mode masses are at the Planck ...
< 1372377261 601823 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... scale. In particular, we analyze a 6D Einstein-Maxwell model coupled to a charged scalar and fermions. Moreover, we briefly review non-Abelian and supersymmetric extensions of this theory.»
< 1372377265 533908 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the same one
< 1372377266 932904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much slower than a taxi, much more expensive than public transit, but possibly an attractive tradeoff
< 1372377268 19872 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because: helppppp
< 1372377279 308252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the to-airport direction I've had them show up much later than they said they would
< 1372377281 859336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the other direction you have to show up p. early
< 1372377285 871894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372377318 305817 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "In addition, although not conclusively proven, it has long been proposed that the parity violation of the weak interactions was important in producing the essential left-right asymmetry of many organic molecules and of the human body, as reviewed for example in ref.[4]"
< 1372377344 644355 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0609050 this one?
< 1372377366 542250 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was what I linked @_@
< 1372377377 919199 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't click pdfs usually
< 1372377380 258290 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1372377380 585161 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to know what it is
< 1372377384 11438 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1372377386 242685 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Since oxygen is an essential element in both water, the universal solvent needed for life, and in each of the four bases forming the DNA code for known living beings, we strongly question the hypothesis that a universe without weak interactions could generate life" weak!
< 1372377400 672920 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14709773   wow this is a thing   in an experimental biology journal
< 1372377422 662073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty dodgy conclusion
< 1372377429 780300 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is
< 1372377433 836966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that our biochemistry is the only way to build "living beings" whatever that even means
< 1372377434 632246 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc rejoined #haskell!?
< 1372377456 708725 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you not paying attention the last nine times i was gushing about a paper about cyborganisms working better by predicting primates' locomotion decisions
< 1372377462 140686 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :experimental biology is the best, is what i'm saying
< 1372377524 866480 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372377534 220788 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Division of Rheumatology, Allergy, and Clinical Immunology" this seems like an odd place to tackle these problems from
< 1372377548 738126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande joined #esoteric!?
< 1372377555 450808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually people do that before getting in the qdb.
< 1372377565 138861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote lexande
< 1372377567 270092 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :941)  sometimes i am confronted with a problem and i think "I know, I'll use Banach-Tarski"
< 1372377578 447528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott:  I did't!
< 1372377581 872403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't!~
< 1372377583 355409 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have two problems?
< 1372377585 144740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kmc
< 1372377586 484404 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :589)  COCKS [...]  truly cocks \ 619)  You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes.   `quote kmc   686)  COCKS [...]  truly cocks   Well, in theory. \ 690)  damn i should make a quasiquoter for inline FORTRAN \ 693)  has there been any work towards designing programming l
< 1372377594 772687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yep
< 1372377596 234989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think you said the cocks thing in #esoteric
< 1372377599 64353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372377600 894596 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1372377601 439632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think no
< 1372377605 505297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know for a fact you've said cocks things in #esoteric
< 1372377610 124141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that cocks thing in particular
< 1372377653 895309 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it seems like the thing in this paper is that without the weak interaction you can't have core collapse supernovae, so it's way harder to get interesting elements out into the universe
< 1372377654 305947 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was in kmc's Caltech qdb before being accepted to Caltech
< 1372377655 810080 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope we run into l-form aliens
< 1372377657 631200 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for fun
< 1372377677 275248 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hmmmmmmmm i remember some stuff about how to form carbon without the usual reactions
< 1372377702 626555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it was in a pop sci book i don't have
< 1372377704 150399 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not about forming but about getting out of stars, I think
< 1372377707 423062 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the links were, i mean
< 1372377726 199427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like without the weak interaction you'd get a bunch of white dwarfs, I think?  I'm not sure
< 1372377747 233246 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how bigger stars would collapse
< 1372377756 149019 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point seems to be that proton + electron -> neutron is necessary for neutronium to form
< 1372377763 345032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and requires the weak force
< 1372377770 404724 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the thing that neutrinos are a huge part of the supernovae process, I think
< 1372377773 355224 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, neutrino pressure
< 1372377774 869475 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372377788 558738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume there'd still be gravitational collapse though?
< 1372377794 595949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... geez.  that is an interesting question
< 1372377798 294685 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would it work
< 1372377806 959918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what would happen if you had a graviationally collapsing iron core
< 1372377811 595337 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no weak force
< 1372377830 623927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you're welcome
< 1372377912 923429 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"weakless universe" sounds kinda cool though
< 1372377936 765881 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike wants a strong universe
< 1372377947 732701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what security holes my 2004 era perl quote webapp had
< 1372378005 502835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSRF for sure
< 1372378060 330039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :csrf is a really annoying sort of bug because you get it from not doing something, as opposed to doing something wrong
< 1372378080 255187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372378086 466983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as opposed to, say, buffer overflows, xss, etc.)
< 1372378111 835352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder whether there are unknown classes of bugs like that that exist everywhere and no one knows about
< 1372378115 957788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want it to be secure by default, why not write a secure code for it
< 1372378118 430969 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: maybe i want a universe that isn't so hardassed about strength/weakness dichotomies!!
< 1372378133 467136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xss is also framed as from not doing something, "not escaping"
< 1372378148 126652 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the mediocre force, i ask you. the "ok at friendly boxing but can't run" force
< 1372378149 96725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just silly though
< 1372378155 64210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1372378162 100842 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: electromagnetic, right?
< 1372378165 648086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens because web developers only acknowledge one type
< 1372378196 696690 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right what
< 1372378211 800778 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the medium force
< 1372378213 958212 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mediocre force
< 1372378227 827671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought gravity was the weakest force
< 1372378238 244907 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or protons are really light or whatever.
< 1372378257 585691 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, gravity is like 10^30 something times weaker
< 1372378259 774541 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :than the other 3
< 1372378269 463610 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the kind of bullshit force, tbh"
< 1372378276 23896 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the why bother force
< 1372378302 225934 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gravity is so weak i don’t even bother to submit to it.
< 1372378418 577988 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only a theory, right?
< 1372378483 63423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i don't click pdfs usually <-- i'm with Bike 
< 1372378499 64099 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I-I'll try to link the arxiv pages from now on instea.d..
< 1372378547 596374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :counterpoint: I click all pdfs
< 1372378589 217495 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :counterpoint: i click links whenever Bike doesn't
< 1372378696 217160 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: weak is stronger than electromagnetic right?
< 1372378720 803271 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was like strong > weak > electromagnetic >> gravity
< 1372378742 987937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't electromagnetic and weak secretly the same thing somehow
< 1372378743 965263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it?  I can never remember >_<
< 1372378747 370330 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought weak was less
< 1372378780 565639 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says strong=10^38
< 1372378784 853710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :electromangetic 10^36
< 1372378786 383360 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak 10^25
< 1372378788 282004 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gravity 1?
< 1372378792 925002 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok
< 1372378803 164146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a p. big difference
< 1372378803 799436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rename gravity superweak force imo
< 1372378807 130616 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction   
< 1372378962 715586 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you all
< 1372378967 87908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gravity's the best force
< 1372378978 590622 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but gravity makes event horizons :<
< 1372378981 349193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum physicists just try to put it down because they can't really work it out
< 1372379003 276709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gravity more like depravity
< 1372379008 835216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that gravity is bad
< 1372379060 34528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  you know, when people talk about emacs being an OS I doubt what they had in mind was that it needed a package manager
< 1372379064 215280 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1064)  you know, when people talk about emacs being an OS I doubt what they had in mind was that it needed a package manager
< 1372379388 716799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay rust has or-patterns
< 1372379418 512977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or-patterns?
< 1372379448 67183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :patterns that match either of two subpatterns
< 1372379481 665022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, as in "p | q => ..."
< 1372379491 522445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when they bind variables?
< 1372379499 734194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can test it.
< 1372379502 271701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to bind the same set of variables at the same types, I think
< 1372379586 613231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks right.
< 1372379617 872224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading the rust tutorial and also building rust
< 1372379649 984231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I learn rust
< 1372379652 552073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I asked that already
< 1372379663 68716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeas
< 1372379671 442702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the tutorial is p. simple
< 1372379681 80520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like how they're going to take "for" out of the language.
< 1372379689 853738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then put it back in with a different, more reasonable behavior.)
< 1372379693 766587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372379699 325068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that too, then, I guess?
< 1372379715 475440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that it's not all that stable yet.
< 1372379720 628950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1372379720 783393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh well"
< 1372379732 463973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first job will be to rewrite all the for loops in Servo, I'm sure
< 1372379765 351572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear Option is actually represented as a potentially-null pointer at runtime.
< 1372379773 308526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why it has such curly-bracy, non-layout syntax.  if it's what they really want or if it's some "people will be scared" thing
< 1372379775 68282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how Option> is represented.
< 1372379791 659852 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how in C you can do things like foo(T *x) { if (x == NULL) return ...; ...; }, without introducing an extra level of nesting?
< 1372379801 693386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a nice pattern-matchy of doing that safely?
< 1372379832 859848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elaborate?
< 1372379881 838149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you were matching on Maybe, you would say fn foo(x: Maybe) { match x { Nothing => ...; Just(y) => ... } }
< 1372379894 338140 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah rust's syntax seems erally ugly to me
< 1372379897 716032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And everything in the Just case is nested an extra level -- which probably means your entire function.
< 1372379898 147306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a purely aesthetic level
< 1372379946 732303 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372379983 911987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You're invited to Human API Hackathon (Jul 6, 2013 - Jul 7, 2013)"
< 1372379990 184875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Than Francisco
< 1372380018 174809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day they'll hack that thon for good
< 1372380041 126541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :will rust have rank-2 types.....
< 1372380057 713293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have type-class-ish things which you can also use as a type and then they become existential.
< 1372380058 924599 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372380106 499746 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372380109 309682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does rust have polymorphic recursion.....i bet the answer is no
< 1372380120 186910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does rust support constructor classes......
< 1372380151 414060 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-255-227.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1372380154 989614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I found the distinction between one-variant enums and structs kind of odd.
< 1372380155 460428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think no
< 1372380158 359656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372380162 666383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just going to remark on that
< 1372380168 53435 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1372380172 380593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's because structs guarantee memory compatibility with C structs.
< 1372380183 685705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wonder whether it's better to use a one-variant enum when you don't care about that.
< 1372380203 164308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe you can get them to merge the two!
< 1372380248 889388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it doesn't infer function arg / return types??
< 1372380283 814127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for top level 'fn'
< 1372380301 360337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does infer them on lambdas, so I guess this amounts to enforcing a rule that GHC warns about anyway
< 1372380331 395162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With GHC it's still sometimes nice to write a function and then ask for its type.
< 1372380337 286427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1372380339 281558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's not all that common.
< 1372380348 826580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rusti doesn't support :t :'(
< 1372380360 395065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo
< 1372380389 33135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The semicolon thing is kind of weird.
< 1372380402 460607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can say { ...; x } or { ...; return x; } but not { ...; x; }
< 1372380422 907537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like a very easy thing to accidentally write or forget a semicolon.
< 1372380430 929091 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess x last isn't a statement, in the same waY?
< 1372380435 343055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the typechecker would catch most of those kinds of bugs, though.
< 1372380436 136020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say the latter and it gives you a function returning () right?
< 1372380441 205146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1372380457 744525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, or a block.
< 1372380473 76470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, a function.
< 1372380474 289741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind.
< 1372380669 7868 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you get a warning for a spurious statement?
< 1372380892 872867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo kmc should turn rust into haskell.
< 1372380909 716158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskel über alles
< 1372380918 219154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did not care enough to fix typo, hth
< 1372380918 635333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust is already k. haskell
< 1372380929 256555 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Klansmen's?
< 1372380934 373596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1372380939 672680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :people say "foo is haskell-inspired" a lot when they mean something like list comprehensions
< 1372380946 372452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372380951 79367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rust has more significant similarities than that
< 1372380956 91385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is the cool language to know and be inspired by and never use
< 1372380958 669453 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course maybe they're similarities to ocaml or whatever it is
< 1372380969 130529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I think rust is more substantial than that
< 1372380972 936753 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some language that ends with an l
< 1372380976 117130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you forgot the space
< 1372380977 410983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in front of c.c
< 1372380977 751972 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            c.c.c
< 1372380977 891318 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             c.c
< 1372380986 42876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go's interfaces whatever are supposed to be "haskell like" but the language doesn't even have polymorphism
< 1372380992 45328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ꙮ.ꙮ
< 1372380995 114658 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really doubt any part of Go is explicitly inspired by haskell
< 1372380995 220594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote haskell-like
< 1372380997 503713 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :870)  i'm looking for a haskell-like programming language, meaning that it supports nesting multi-line comments
< 1372381001 83491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, do you... have something against being inspired by haskell but not using it?
< 1372381011 579694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not really
< 1372381012 963671 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the cconversation man
< 1372381024 836001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's what i do
< 1372381027 252256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the most part
< 1372381036 543789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the conversation wasn't giving context!
< 1372381041 172551 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it was
< 1372381077 631139 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a complaint is with languages saying they're haskell-inspired when it's something boringer than inference and type constructors and stuff
< 1372381108 23592 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372381116 887709 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just kmc says that kind of thing a lot
< 1372381123 864571 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he does that's true
< 1372381131 746404 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I'm bitter and stuff
< 1372381136 92000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and PH is annoyed by it
< 1372381136 597521 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :buff
< 1372381151 792647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: pigworker pointed out that type classes are a kind of program-inference-from-types, rather than type-inference-from-programs
< 1372381159 191442 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be really happy when i get into A Field and can feel dumb and behind the times about that instead of wih CS
< 1372381170 982911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's cool
< 1372381179 506153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I hear you're a biomathematician.........
< 1372381193 942315 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come at me bro
< 1372381197 600852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what ian stewart is these days
< 1372381227 379883 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i read one of that guy's books
< 1372381230 567983 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..................on biology
< 1372381285 501299 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tutor did his phd with him, on animal gaits
< 1372381319 448042 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh oscillators
< 1372381327 411540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to get on this plane soon
< 1372381334 486062 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look out for the snakes.
< 1372381341 256601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk (maybe back once I'm on the plane?)
< 1372381345 167170 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A group-theoretic approach to rings of coupled biological oscillators." well then
< 1372381361 192210 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he has all that stuff on his walls
< 1372381371 259520 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmmm did i read one of these papers, lessee
< 1372381373 132028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although he did it on insects so he also has a lot of those on his walls
< 1372381384 276030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite weird really
< 1372381386 746691 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :insects are animals maaaaan
< 1372381406 72092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, he did it on them specifically rather than animals in geneal
< 1372381407 953063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*general
< 1372381432 268517 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, my book on neuroethological robotics doesn't have any of these
< 1372381437 116528 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly a new anthology is called for
< 1372381653 100610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :antology
< 1372381794 17411 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: planes shouldn't ahve internet
< 1372381795 527428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unhjoly
< 1372381812 210125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw, op kmc.
< 1372381855 421608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nop elliott
< 1372381869 133652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice 1d2
< 1372381869 303488 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 2
< 1372381873 570901 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: voice gregor.
< 1372381879 175164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1372381882 783188 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Gregor
> 1372381882 805231 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1372381882 945447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't voice Gregor
< 1372381890 68739 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mandatory.
< 1372381895 425329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: SORRY
< 1372381896 577768 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott how can you fail your constituency like that!
< 1372381902 334691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does 2 mean you op me instead
< 1372381914 103131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d2
< 1372381914 356601 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 2
< 1372381916 157225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw have you noticed ais523 left for good
< 1372381920 239784 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, he’ll nop you instead.
< 1372381920 470078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thxambdabot
< 1372381922 427756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it would if shachaf had said "op" instead of "nop"
< 1372381944 258929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an advantage of opping me is that i'm already in the access list
< 1372381946 534011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :less work to just modify it
< 1372381948 631225 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You haven’t nopped him yet, though.
< 1372381955 618136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: uh, yes he did
< 1372381959 926674 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hasn't he, ion? hasn't he?
< 1372381967 992359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the advantage of opping me is that i'm p. groovy
< 1372381984 337897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1372381990 911131 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that kind of nop.
< 1372381993 868204 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough.
< 1372382023 179296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ais523
< 1372382025 757208 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to buy more memory for my work computer :/
< 1372382027 137054 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-06-21 04:13:29:  yeah, me not knowing how they work is a problem for working out ways to program with them, though
< 1372382039 486687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ais523_
< 1372382044 449141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lately; try `seen ais523_ ever
< 1372382060 77167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm it's been a while
< 1372382083 421247 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :his worldview was inadequate, obviously
< 1372382097 598161 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just couldn't take the full force of Bike
< 1372382107 96858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: iirc the logs were down when he /parted forever, though.
< 1372382141 689117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the codu ones that is.
< 1372382168 75308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the logs that is, the logs that isn't, and the logs that may or may not be
< 1372382202 270228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so are you made of vinyl
< 1372382265 692399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :vinylly tagless
< 1372382386 267309 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372382471 520924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this plane doesn't have internet, I'm just tethering while I'm still on the ground
< 1372382496 694498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's really sad
< 1372382501 936754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're really sad
< 1372382504 626842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really)
< 1372382509 923436 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-195-149.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1372382511 868009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true :(
< 1372382516 444042 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you send internet through flight radar
< 1372382519 166681 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1372382521 537910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i built rust 0.6 and i'm going to write some rust 0.6 code during this flight
< 1372382531 131950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume my knowledge will be woefully out of date by the time i land
< 1372382532 170648 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure you should find an exploit in the plane software while you're in the hair
< 1372382539 16658 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :air
< 1372382543 545550 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do some movie shit
< 1372382547 212854 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :redirect to the bahamas
< 1372382610 814711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, by the time you land
< 1372382614 122939 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your knowledge will be a bit rusty?
< 1372382621 448095 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shut up nooooo
< 1372382626 853977 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION giggle

< 1372382638 710210 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
< 1372382651 103574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: -____-
< 1372382662 617724 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad you got that in before you hit the air
< 1372382695 734156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit the air running
< 1372382701 802495 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea that kmc is learning rust on the flight in an emergency before the interview
< 1372382712 439707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "oh shit, I don't actually know any rust"
< 1372382721 709155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's basically the case
< 1372382722 84788 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the process of learning rust "oxidizing"?
< 1372382722 753371 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like
< 1372382724 609478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except s/interview/job/
< 1372382725 332030 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is oxidizing on his flight
< 1372382729 359187 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372382730 950399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the difference
< 1372382734 476508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1372382736 265952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair point
< 1372382738 10097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :job = really long interview that you get paid for
< 1372382741 115738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an at will employment state
< 1372382765 752551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah some companies only hire through internship / contract work
< 1372382773 218306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a long interview that you get paid for
< 1372382873 553593 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly, isn't life an interview, in the large
< 1372382906 699936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote monad tutorial
< 1372382907 875990 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :372)  oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life.
< 1372382925 362956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c
< 1372382936 204530 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is an interview for applying to madoka's^W heaven?
< 1372382958 143754 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc i'm not sure you get the c.c thing
< 1372382958 480432 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who was that person who didn't watch PMMM yet
< 1372382958 727261 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          c.c.c
< 1372382958 967365 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                           c.c
< 1372382964 869791 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessss sgeo
< 1372382967 540979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
< 1372382992 5038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's time for laptop to sleep now
< 1372382996 294676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see you all later
< 1372383004 362409 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun a billion feet up
< 1372383005 228567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
< 1372383007 595778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye byeegan
< 1372383009 810993 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :byyye~
< 1372383021 275821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :∿
< 1372383175 518725 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to say bye
< 1372383176 589808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc
< 1372383184 624332 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott !
< 1372383202 491044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the new kmc??
< 1372383212 459432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Fiora
< 1372383215 948867 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11Fiora: Welcom10e to th02e i02n07te09rnational 04hub13 for esoteric program11min03g langu03age desig07n and deployme04nt! 02For more info08r12mat02io04n, check out 03our wiki: http://esol04angs.org/wiki/03Main_P10age08. (For the other k12ind of esote03rica, t03ry #08esoteric04 on10 i05rc.dal.14net13.)
< 1372383230 465945 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs come Fiora
< 1372383239 95978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shachaf.... remember what happened the last time we `*elcomed Fiora!!
< 1372383249 379979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that'll find WeLcOmE or WELCOME or all those things.
< 1372383260 413324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no...........what happened
< 1372383266 196026 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck the18:19 pleez
< 1372383269 758782 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10777
< 1372383292 904940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey remember Fiorara
< 1372383293 240352 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :....?
< 1372383298 585679 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not kmc...
< 1372383298 886033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiorara was cool
< 1372383306 59422 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiorarararara?
< 1372383317 249742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: elliott said "hi kmc" and you said "hi elliott !" so the joke was that you were kmc.
< 1372383325 607135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all.
< 1372383341 147141 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome shachaf | tr 'a-zA-Z' 'n-za-mN-ZA-M'
< 1372383343 640401 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :funpuns: Jrypbzr gb gur vagreangvbany uho sbe rfbgrevp cebtenzzvat ynathntr qrfvta naq qrcyblzrag! Sbe zber vasbezngvba, purpx bhg bhe jvxv: uggc://rfbynatf.bet/jvxv/Znva_Cntr. (Sbe gur bgure xvaq bs rfbgrevpn, gel #rfbgrevp ba vep.qny.arg.)
< 1372383347 442717 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man
< 1372383348 795147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark times
< 1372383363 451637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: please arrange for uggc://rfbynatf.bet/jvxv/Znva_Cntr to be a valid url
< 1372383373 335781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :invent a new protocol if you have to
< 1372383377 468329 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, sorry
< 1372383384 749674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Why?
< 1372383391 736329 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um.... for being confusing!
< 1372383419 397569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think *I* was the confusing one here...
< 1372383432 519372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should be mad at me for not apologizing.
< 1372383462 128576 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...?   why would I be...
< 1372383482 833050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No reason. Never mind.
< 1372383501 993392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/uggc-protocol/ hth
< 1372383546 20873 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meet the Developer: Eli the Bearded. Learn why uggc protocol was created and find out what's next for this add-on.
< 1372383612 674215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tth
< 1372383666 910901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not sure whether that lone commenter has got the point.
< 1372383695 264351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reviewer
< 1372383726 710348 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this bizarro shachaf
< 1372383968 902544 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372384027 283800 :kgoret!~terogk@u.nxsh.org QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1372384097 241834 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1372384914 299234 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372385298 80625 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Syntactically, it *is* a valid URL.
< 1372385300 586833 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tada!
< 1372385313 483283 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372385321 346484 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-237-4.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you need like, a scheme, man.
< 1372385338 379118 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it matches the generic schema.
< 1372385427 451895 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I um, wish I knew what that commenter was trying to say
< 1372385432 334583 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost wrote commentor. Thagora
< 1372385818 501906 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa.
< 1372385824 992517 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opus audio on a video file in the wild.
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< 1372386054 390383 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot
< 1372386081 781827 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also fun, Ubuntu's shipped version of mplayer does not support Opus in mkv.
< 1372386093 915151 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about mplayer2?
< 1372386105 914601 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno.
< 1372386116 101806 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just know mpv works just fine.
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< 1372386520 170350 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PART :#esoteric
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< 1372390523 333035 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D
< 1372390704 852500 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/come-again-penile-strangulation-by-metallic-rings-retracted-for-duplication/
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< 1372391665 411067 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozellida pseudofungi!!
< 1372392071 688279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: little-known fact: that's how kmc got into haskell
< 1372392076 32961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(drugz joke)
< 1372392085 415461 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :krr-TSS
< 1372395267 647918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy...............
< 1372395275 359183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist
< 1372395277 833047 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy
< 1372395303 213075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy did you see the top of the page
< 1372395404 671421 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: !!!!!!
< 1372395420 692240 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very exciting and good
< 1372395738 345439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: also this is a good comic
< 1372396151 947804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, did you @quit kappabot?
< 1372396167 577233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That bot is in more channels than just this one, you know! @part is there for a reason!
< 1372396476 177504 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes it is a good comic
< 1372396544 442976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: hey what's the cps-encoding of newtype Fix f = Fix (f (Fix f))
< 1372396552 129913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just newtype Fox f = Fox (forall r. f r -> r)............. that doesn't really sound right
< 1372396598 948393 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depenmds on what you mean by cps-encoding & how faithful you want to be to that newtype
< 1372396614 853369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want the boehm-berarducci-church-etc thing
< 1372396624 988773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which turns lists into foldr and all that
< 1372396692 3145 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thhen thats it yes
< 1372396700 82024 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to read http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/papers/free-rectypes/free-rectypes.txt if you havent
< 1372396723 969604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but that's kind of weird because isn't Fix f isomorphic to (forall a. (f a -> a) -> a)
< 1372396789 76139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok i'll look
< 1372396802 862654 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget the name for that other thing youre saying woops
< 1372396812 558558 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have "too much exposure" to it but ive seen it around
< 1372396818 197113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that thing is just the type of fold
< 1372396827 571680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fol d:: Fix f -> (f a -> a) -> a
< 1372396840 270513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can fold with the "initial algebra" or whatever it is to get Fix back
< 1372396856 603275 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what that paper is about :-)
< 1372396867 969674 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a tutorial on helping peopel get an understanding of that
< 1372396877 580904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372396880 669578 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather a draft draft draft draft draft thereof
< 1372396889 265311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is (forall r. f r -> r) really ~ Fix f
< 1372396892 920309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like for instance consider f = Const Void
< 1372396899 571232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix (Const Void) ~ Void
< 1372396909 410322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but (forall r. Const Void r -> r) ~ (forall r. Void -> r)
< 1372396914 564888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix (Const Void) is uninhabited
< 1372396915 694648 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i i may have oopsed BUT ALSO
< 1372396919 274989 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres the thing where
< 1372396923 599275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but (forall r. Void -> r) is inhabited
< 1372396944 486256 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill just pull up the actuall thing and well settile it once and for all
< 1372396955 662489 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lfix X. F X  =  All X. (F X -> X) -> X.
< 1372396961 652909 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"th re r  you have it"
< 1372396970 737563 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:18:44  ok but that's kind of weird because isn't Fix f isomorphic to (forall a. (f a -> a) -> a)
< 1372396970 835903 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i oopsed, oops)
< 1372396977 295968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the truth was with us all along....
< 1372396977 396775 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I geT it
< 1372396987 421675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: p. sure edwardk said it was once
< 1372396992 984499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he also said "in haskell"
< 1372397003 506541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's def. a data/codata thing going on here so maybe that's related??
< 1372397028 91042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because for codata you have (exists a. (a, a -> f a)) ~ Fix f "or something like that"
< 1372397042 432519 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find the eqn for that in the .txt too :) :)
< 1372397043 685759 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the least/greatest fixed point thing
< 1372397051 516016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: HEY I'M GETTING TO THE TXT OK
< 1372397112 961976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: sorry for yelling :'(
< 1372397144 593585 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just dont want to make the mistake again of seeing something that looks sort of like the right thing and saiyng "yes thats the right thing" when really its not
< 1372397172 926644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait which thing are you talking about
< 1372397302 284957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:26:10  newtype Mu f = Mu (forall a. (f a -> a) -> a); data Nu f = forall a. Nu a (a -> f a)  -- build mappings from Mu f -> Nu f and vice versa given Functor f
< 1372397324 336737 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nu (Const Void) also has exactly one inhabitant
< 1372397350 626907 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Void
< 1372397351 314325 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `Void'
< 1372397361 444127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: data Void
< 1372397365 898685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I.e. a type with no inhabitants.)
< 1372397370 660359 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know
< 1372397375 627288 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering how it like looks
< 1372397377 372758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Void
< 1372397378 184977 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: type constructor or class `Void'
< 1372397381 379040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Void
< 1372397382 262848 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined.
< 1372397382 836590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Void
< 1372397383 559065 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*
< 1372397388 658990 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep
< 1372397394 759417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Integer
< 1372397395 483973 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*
< 1372397411 149448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Void can be of any kind with PolyKinds on I think
< 1372397414 687124 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :	Gfix X. F X  =  Exists X. (X -> F X) * X,
< 1372397420 395116 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up with edwardk's Nu
< 1372397439 918633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: he got it backwards
< 1372397460 625171 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that makes sense
< 1372397462 945442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that explains why my file says
< 1372397463 380924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Nu f = forall a. Nu a (a -> f a)
< 1372397466 649313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because edwardk said it
< 1372397469 807643 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Nu in his recschemes package is
< 1372397472 959668 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Nu f whereSource
< 1372397473 120364 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructors
< 1372397473 266451 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nu :: (a -> f a) -> a -> Nu f	 
< 1372397477 553328 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1372397480 472647 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^good copy paste ^^
< 1372397482 949234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he didn't get it backwards
< 1372397488 571095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm the one who got it backwards just now
< 1372397494 919211 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1372397495 470461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it got it correct earlier
< 1372397501 309332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i said (exists a. (a, a -> f a))
< 1372397553 483914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it makes perfect sense
< 1372397557 432945 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372397558 779426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just building up a tree and all that
< 1372397598 573862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait a minute
< 1372397605 295418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i misunderstood again!
< 1372397615 573686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(forall r. f r -> r) isn't (forall r. (f r -> r) -> r) at all
< 1372397627 449897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really do doubt that (forall r. f r -> r) is right.
< 1372397630 777538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why isn't it?
< 1372397761 605582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1372397773 533258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm bad at things
< 1372397792 479157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Foo a = Foo a ---> newtype Foo a = Foo (forall r. (a -> r) -> r)
< 1372397816 285612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Foo f a = Foo (f (Foo a)) ---> newtype Foo f a = Foo (forall r. (f r -> r) -> r)
< 1372397821 229493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously it needs to be an argument.
< 1372397841 944010 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK, so "church"(/boehm-berarducci) encoding of Fix gives you Mu.
< 1372397879 75067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a cochurch encoding that gives you Nu?
< 1372397918 357020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Hi a = Hi a ----> data Ho a = forall x. Ho x (x -> a) -- totally making things up right now
< 1372397987 387646 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I guess there's no point to this encoding.
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< 1372398947 717822 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Department_of_Fun
< 1372398960 649134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https
< 1372398988 105806 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Department_of_Https
< 1372398999 21568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia does not have a project page with this exact name.
< 1372399117 896729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok mnoqy i'm going to read that txt file now
< 1372399127 2838 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372399157 728509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: what does 'only allowing recursion in positive position' translate to in logic
< 1372399171 494868 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic?
< 1372399182 851561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry that's nonsense
< 1372399198 498883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't say anything but nonsense ;'"
< 1372399300 294442 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as the category theory goes youre just dealing with endofunctors...recursion in the negative position translates to a contravatiant position and you cant do stuff there
< 1372399325 466688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but i mean
< 1372399326 154309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1372399328 56421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i mean
< 1372399353 750198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get all kinds of paradoxes when you have self reference things
< 1372399356 166337 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i'd like to know
< 1372399375 245558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and curry's paradox is the kind of thing that you get with negative position recursion right
< 1372399386 658403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that sort of type lets you do r. evil things if you allow it
< 1372399397 562786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the types with plain old positive recursion don't
< 1372399402 158887 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure?
< 1372399409 153039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean you can allow "certain kinds of self reference" or something
< 1372399418 572784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know
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< 1372408692 247557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp i tried to write some rust code
< 1372408697 380027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got my brain twisted in I think a good way?
< 1372408699 8982 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :time will tell
< 1372408712 295018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping the second line would be "this is not the job for me"
< 1372408718 548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :first line had that kinda resignation to it that suggested the possibility
< 1372408722 743130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1372408746 586210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one cool thing is, the type of a reference includes the region over which it's valid, and you can actually name and bind these regions
< 1372408766 709379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a function can return a reference which is valid as long as a particular reference argument is
< 1372408798 580084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the 'r here:  fn get_x<'r>(p: &'r Point) -> &'r float { &p.x }
< 1372408882 356719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to implement a lambda calculus interpreter without using any managed boxes but I think that's impossible
< 1372408905 581657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :without writing your own GC i mean
< 1372408937 63883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc
< 1372408942 443726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf
< 1372408943 391447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to californeegan
< 1372408956 807537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you been to a california welcome center yet
< 1372408968 313085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "had that kinda resignation to it that suggested that kinda resignation" hth
< 1372409040 699764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also in rust the sugar for (*x).y is x.y not x->y
< 1372409042 268920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"its weird"
< 1372409068 151136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's "the cool thing to do"
< 1372409071 148229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :go does that too i think
< 1372409092 983549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm
< 1372409101 636955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I suppose C doesn't do that because a C compiler is allowed to be dumb as rocks
< 1372409102 939848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like python...............
< 1372409124 556705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more modern languages might want to avoid it because more overloaded syntax => more bad programs typecheck
< 1372409129 635730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe there isn't much risk of that in this case
< 1372409166 611703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bag came off the carousel so afk again
< 1372409178 517883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :adiuaf
< 1372410350 322691 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372411373 752063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I officially live in San Francisco now :)
< 1372411411 70657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome kmc
< 1372411417 823592 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07kmc: Welcome to th08e i08nt10e03rnati10onal02 hub for eso08ter07ic programming 02languag03e design and de07ployment! 12For more i09n10f14ormation, chec04k out 10our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_06Page. (F09or07 the 07other03 kin02d of 10eso05terica10,09 t04r04y 11#eso07te05ric on irc.dal.net.04)
< 1372411418 294948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/
< 1372411424 819386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh \o/
< 1372411425 217791 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |
< 1372411425 377916 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/|
< 1372411426 379989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally a proper use of `relcome
< 1372411430 568192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372411436 845171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow myndzi doesn't account for voice
< 1372411442 186768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :viz. https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1011817_10100526803867865_340272139_n.jpg
< 1372411450 436163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372411453 853868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's what you get for setting empty nick whatever
< 1372411605 348448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust won't let me make a thing like an orphaned instance :(
< 1372411623 109569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really?
< 1372411629 503900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, orphaned instances are evil.
< 1372411634 921441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :might relate to the fact that its polymorphism is accomplished through recompiling for each type (a la C++) rather than runtime parametric erasure whatever
< 1372411655 476593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe not
< 1372411722 872682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should join #rust on irc.mozilla.org
< 1372411740 105007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just might do that
< 1372411759 951166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you p. know a lot of the p. there anyway
< 1372411764 475975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :m
< 1372411768 797963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d
< 1372411884 588921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.imperialviolet.org/2013/06/27/botchingpfs.html
< 1372411896 378637 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1372412619 131619 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're working in sf, right? not coming down to mv?
< 1372412632 670826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, except for the first day
< 1372412647 390940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe others from time to time? dunno
< 1372415151 165424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the Mongol conquests killed like 17% of the world population at the time.
< 1372417346 953918 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric
< 1372418214 303135 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372418418 698865 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372418747 24241 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372419608 679386 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372421545 294193 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372423363 224740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought experiment: would agda still be cool if it used pascal-style syntax?
< 1372423364 985120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo: no
< 1372424098 550273 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje
< 1372424741 174008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 896
< 1372424743 408027 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 896: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly
< 1372425000 963527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good `olist
< 1372425177 214806 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372425959 9027 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372426436 600637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi
< 1372426656 899481 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there
< 1372426662 858945 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1372426691 89434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372426749 750638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm maybe...
< 1372426752 829361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Client Quit
< 1372426769 148185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372426852 474773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we are, back to leguin
< 1372426875 359277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the norwegian server seems to be permanently refusing me)
< 1372426896 948847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rotation keeps stupidly sending me across the atlantic
< 1372426955 296554 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just specify a server...
< 1372426970 193984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: um i just did
< 1372426976 772577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to leguin, as i said.
< 1372426994 63051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had gibson in norwegian before, which has refused connections for weeks.
< 1372427001 130739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in norway
< 1372427013 898823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok
< 1372427202 108672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see the olist
< 1372427204 496163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good olist
< 1372427251 693860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet
< 1372428260 248599 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372428421 609291 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372428443 117767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: That bot is in more channels than just this one, you know! @part is there for a reason!
< 1372428472 45380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: That bot is in more channels than just this one, you know! @part is there for a reason! <-- oops sorry :P
< 1372428745 226619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I interpreted "i had gibson in norwegian" to mean that you had a collection of Norwegian translations of Gibson's novels, and it puzzled me a whole lot as to how exactly were they "refusing connections".
< 1372428763 10911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'd really like to read this book, but it's refusing connections."
< 1372428771 849311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess in this e-age of e-books that might happen.
< 1372428914 140336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1372428993 940055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: exercise: write a function to convert Mu f to Nu f
< 1372429319 273179 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372429476 291158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't even remember what those are hth
< 1372429507 22812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Mu f = Mu { runMu :: forall a. (f a -> a) -> a }
< 1372429516 257947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Nu f = forall a. Nu a (a -> f a)
< 1372429516 946653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1372430387 540594 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACCORDING TO WIKIPEDIA, TODAY IS AN INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY.
< 1372430432 793599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day is an international caps lock day
< 1372430460 70173 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO, UH, WHAT'S MU SUPPOSED TO BE?
< 1372430522 760550 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE, UH, IT TAKES A FUNCTOR ALGEBRA THINGY AND THEN RETURNS THE UNDERLYING THING.
< 1372430523 604254 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: folds
< 1372430559 628502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's my birthday hth
< 1372430563 190305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372430569 426769 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE, WHY DON'T WE TAKE [] AS AN EXAMPLE. Mu [] IS forall a. ([a] -> a) -> a, RIGHT?
< 1372430572 98575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a billion years old now
< 1372430577 203282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just 43
< 1372430607 707828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy oerjan++ !
< 1372430624 520580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: [] is a complicated example.............
< 1372430645 347392 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL RIGHT, HOW ABOUT Maybe?
< 1372430651 598696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372430667 54945 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mu Maybe, THEN, WOULD BE forall a. (Maybe a -> a) -> a.
< 1372430667 214287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: happy birthy
< 1372430682 327950 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF COURSE, A (Maybe a -> a) COULD BE PRETTY WEIRD.
< 1372430711 575273 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYWAY, I GUESS THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO, IF YOU'RE THIS MU VALUE THING, IS PASS Nothing INTO THAT FUNCTION.
< 1372430711 929176 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372430718 817501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on hang on
< 1372430726 976679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only thing you can do *at first*
< 1372430734 859508 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN YOU'LL GET AN a, WHICH YOU CAN RETURN, OR YOU CAN PUT IT INTO Just AND RETURN THE RESULT...
< 1372430737 787417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after you do that you get an a value
< 1372430738 855186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1372430744 368848 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR YOU CAN PUT *THAT* INTO Just AND RETURN THAT RESULT, AND SO ON.
< 1372430748 45681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372430758 15404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so (Mu Maybe) is...
< 1372430770 99829 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFFECTIVELY THE NATURAL NUMBERS.
< 1372430774 101180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1372430781 433672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Nu Maybe?
< 1372430795 544385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exists x. (x, x -> Maybe x)
< 1372430847 433594 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAH, THAT.
< 1372430870 161515 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can you do with that?
< 1372430891 718967 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAH, THAT LOOKS LIKE THE NATURAL NUMBERS AS WELL. TAKE THE x, PASS IT INTO THAT FUNCTION, EITHER YOU GET Nothing OR YOU GET Just SOMETHING.
< 1372430899 653840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1372430907 822171 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or............................................you never get Nothing!!
< 1372430907 875552 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF IT'S THE LATTER, YOU CAN PUT IT INTO THE FUNCTION AGAIN, MAYBE YOU'LL GET Nothing THIS TIME, MAYBE YOU'LL GET Just AGAIN...
< 1372430926 211673 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIGHT. IT'S THE-NATURAL-NUMBERS-PLUS-INFINITY.
< 1372430932 418918 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE CO-NATURAL NUMBERS, AMIRITE?
< 1372430947 50548 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SINCE, LIKE, ISN'T THIS EFFECTIVELY A COINDUCTIVE DATA TYPE?
< 1372430947 679178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372430972 895969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372430979 918336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now write a function to turn Mu into Nu
< 1372430981 507139 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT ABOUT MU, CAN THAT ALSO BE INFINITY?
< 1372430992 813431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in haskell it can.....since haskell is ""confused"""
< 1372431034 555038 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HM. TO ME IT ALMOST KIND OF SEEMS LIKE A COINCIDENCE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE THE SAME THING.
< 1372431036 689052 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT IN ANY CASE...
< 1372431107 692956 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MU IS A FUNCTION TAKING THE ALGEBRA THINGY AND PLAYING WITH IT AND RETURNING THE ONE WHATEVER THING.
< 1372431130 844646 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHEREAS NU IS JUST THE PART THAT GOES IN BETWEEN OR WHATEVER.
< 1372431157 550482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: elliott: thanks
< 1372431237 241210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in return you can outlaw international caps lock day in the channel
< 1372431269 930211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgtm
< 1372431299 59283 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONE THING THAT THE MU COULD BE, I GUESS, IS \f -> f . Just . f . Just . f . Just . f . Just . f $ Nothing, AYE?
< 1372431322 376660 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: International Caps Lock Day has been outlawed in #esoteric
< 1372431333 708359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's time For international shubshub Day.
< 1372431348 756846 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that?
< 1372431366 2610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, we Never Figured it out
< 1372431386 874786 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is It All Right If I Just Capitalize Every Word?
< 1372431401 28970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Not how It work
< 1372431401 765061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s
< 1372431406 362079 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunnO, I don'T thinK thaT woulD bE thE besT ideA pragmaticallY speakinG.
< 1372431420 355563 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, what could the Nu be.
< 1372431447 579094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, yes, sure, That's a Good Mu value.
< 1372431453 405974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f -> f . Just . f . Just . f . Just . f . Just . f $ Nothing
< 1372431454 126591 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe b -> b) -> b
< 1372431469 908246 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going backwards... taking a layer off each time... why would you go backwards, why would that be the same thing...
< 1372431484 370230 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it really possible to convert Mu into Nu or is this just an Elaborate practical joke...
< 1372431491 989193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (\f -> f . Just . f . Just . f . Just . f . Just . f $ Nothing) (maybe 0 (+1))
< 1372431495 255925 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  4
< 1372431511 733231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really Possible to do it.
< 1372431560 174001 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you have the fixed Point of a Type, like, a Data Constructor representing that, then it seems like you can do it.
< 1372431581 254986 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, define data Fix f = F (f (F f)).
< 1372431585 988682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well You can Make Whatever data Constructors you Want
< 1372431601 129202 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, uh, the Nu is...
< 1372431603 710287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but Say No To negative Recursion)
< 1372431632 189612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shachaf is always so positive all the time.
< 1372431635 655130 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(F . Just . F . Just . F . Just . F . Just . F $ Nothing, \(F x) -> x)?
< 1372431667 118040 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which Case it seems pretty clear how to convert the Mu into the Nu. Just pass F in and then the other Thing is always that Thing.
< 1372431681 365153 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(themu F, \(F x) -> x)
< 1372431692 201983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1372431694 589476 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If my Syntax is correct; I'm not sure you can put the Lambda Symbol directly after a Comma like that.
< 1372431710 334545 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (\x -> x, \y -> y)
< 1372431711 977691 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(t -> t, t1 -> t1)
< 1372431720 431611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The syntax Is Correct but haskell Doesn't Have first-Class Existentials
< 1372431721 968723 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, you can do that.
< 1372431731 686572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So You Would instead make a Data Constructor In ghc
< 1372431743 556356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Nu f = forall a. Nu a (a -> f a)
< 1372431755 373834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now convert Nu into Mu!
< 1372431772 52956 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Boy.
< 1372431790 600681 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, it's \themu -> Nu (themu F) (\(F x) -> x).
< 1372431809 206613 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So right. A Mu is effectively a forall a. (f a -> a) -> a, aye?
< 1372431835 273116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1372431847 724362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Fix f = Fix { unFix :: f (Fix f) }
< 1372431851 969477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix :: f (Fix f) -> Fix f
< 1372431858 90693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unFix :: Fix f -> f (Fix f)
< 1372431864 341513 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO YOU'VE GOT THIS THING, YOU DOn't know what it is, and you have to, like, effectively use it to guide your Behavior.
< 1372431886 835058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Thing
< 1372431906 271722 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first Argument to the Nu Constructor.
< 1372431914 36333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also If you Want A Bonus exercise try Turning Nu Into Mu
< 1372431916 933267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shubshub
< 1372431919 64240 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :750)  STOP CAPITALIZING   It's making me feel weird   the I has to be capitilized its proper grammer
< 1372431937 857595 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the other Thing is, of course, the second Argument to the Nu Constructor.
< 1372431938 264706 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: happy birthy
< 1372431973 416726 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: happy Birthday to you. Happy Birthday to you. It is likely that quoting any more of the Song would be an Infringement of Copyright.
< 1372431984 101809 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :B'yeah.
< 1372431990 53021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i Heard That was Just A rumour
< 1372432007 679700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops That was improper Grammer
< 1372432022 705442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, I remember 750
< 1372432050 103706 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shubshub the batch script esolang guy
< 1372432057 365084 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's essentially, like, you have an a, and an (a -> f a), and an (f b -> b), and you have to appropriately produce a b.
< 1372432075 443217 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh yes
< 1372432083 477911 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and you know that the f is Maybe, of Course.
< 1372432139 62839 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i googled his name and found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOUKwJYhdss wow
< 1372432216 324101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric/2012-04-28.txt:10:24:19:  I Just added capital lettering to !Py!Batch
< 1372432226 562329 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, keep operating on the a until you've gotten rid of all of the, like, a, and then do the same thing in reverse.
< 1372432265 383054 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/thing/Thing/
< 1372432296 576488 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the first Thing we need is (a -> (a -> Maybe a) -> Fix Maybe).
< 1372432316 374139 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's just, uh, what should I call it. How about shake.
< 1372432398 329827 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme interchange the arguments, so it's ((a -> Maybe a) -> a -> Fix Maybe).
< 1372432404 812380 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shake f x = fmap (shake f) (f x)?
< 1372432418 663853 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, we need more constructors.
< 1372432428 292082 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shake f x = Fix (fmap (shake f) (f x))?
< 1372432469 629549 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s//////////
< 1372432471 965206 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks right as far as I can tell.
< 1372432477 231981 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372432493 709521 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you just need to do the reverse. Let's call that one scrunch.
< 1372432546 954962 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a Type along the Lines of (Fix Maybe -> (Maybe b -> b) -> b). Yeah, that sounds easy.
< 1372432584 898224 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should interchange the Arguments again. ((Maybe b -> b) -> Fix Maybe -> b).
< 1372432609 950685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way you can do hylo :: Functor f => (f b -> b) -> (a -> f a) -> (a -> b) if you prefer
< 1372432658 642057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is the same thing, of course.)
< 1372432661 412108 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lo
< 1372432713 516411 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrunch f t = f (fmap (scrunch f) (unFix t))
< 1372432734 265268 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you just need to shake and then scrunch.
< 1372432997 582293 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wanted to shake my hand but then I scrunched his fingers so hard there was blood everywhere
< 1372433027 974732 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The metaphor is... a T-shirt or something.
< 1372433037 581388 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to turn a T-shirt into a hockey puck, what do you do?
< 1372433039 421784 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get the idea.
< 1372433058 255991 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, I mUST LEAVE YOU GUYS FOR THE TIME BEING.
< 1372434696 581332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: thanks
< 1372434972 79496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt t-shirts, hockey pucks and burritos
< 1372435049 343397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: your job is to find the best place in sf for a vegetarian burrito btw
< 1372435800 375994 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shachaf... a vegetarian
< 1372435817 750296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no nouning, please
< 1372435821 973975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is vegetarian
< 1372435824 177031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like the kid in the apartment above has recently acquired a marble or something similar.
< 1372435847 250136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, after all, that is what will finally be the end of me.
< 1372435859 256817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many marbles.
< 1372435875 889445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just lose some?
< 1372435897 760703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be the ones making the noise, Phantom_Hoover 
< 1372436314 651110 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
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< 1372438463 674212 :impomatic!~john_metc@46.208.115.220 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1372442433 310848 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
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< 1372443517 91390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is no-meat-food-seeky
< 1372444667 56589 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372445704 918556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you even be a vegetarian if you're jewish
< 1372446033 461955 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372446353 181526 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello
< 1372446450 409911 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to stop being vegetarian recently. I feel bad about it, but i have to prioritize my health over the wellbeing of production animals. As a health issue i have (had for years before i even began vegetarianism) i have real trouble getting things done. Due to that i just didn’t manage to take care of the increased effort to get all the nutrition i need.
< 1372446503 25742 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372449154 909033 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372449937 133803 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :being vegetarian was fun
< 1372449943 171197 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meat is SO GOOD
< 1372450022 991193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1372451387 163961 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven’t really got used to the taste of meat yet, it still feels subjectively disgusting. But that’s just a matter of getting used to it again. OTOH, i don’t think the bad conscience is going to go away. :-P
< 1372451677 74378 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1372451889 254832 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just start with something easy, like drinking chilled pig blood, and then slowly move up to hunting squirrels and such
< 1372452097 215647 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1372452948 517889 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: wait... are you saying you've NEVER eaten meat before?
< 1372453037 91187 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen: I have.
< 1372453064 203212 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped around 13 years ago.
< 1372453183 37459 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay that's a long time
< 1372453370 696375 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough for the desire to turn to disgust.
< 1372454563 887595 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the Component Object Model and the Common Language Infrastructure have anything to do with each other?
< 1372454802 329509 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hello sir
< 1372454811 691157 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like to purchase an internet
< 1372454813 813446 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi coppro.
< 1372454815 221487 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any available?
< 1372454820 680564 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, lemme think.
< 1372454840 420890 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any internets here at the moment, but I could create one given... let's say about three to six months.
< 1372454908 222193 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, that timeline is unacceptable to me
< 1372455705 388206 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
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< 1372457116 640755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest going for an intern e.t. instead hth
< 1372458104 91929 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does hth stand for again?
< 1372458110 302958 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth, hth
< 1372458114 749940 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn hth
< 1372458115 935401 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "hth".
< 1372458122 574552 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth
< 1372458124 653981 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous.
< 1372458143 367732 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hairy toe help. Got it
< 1372458454 254788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i will let you know
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< 1372461477 307319 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I recommend taking your business elsewhere, hth.
< 1372461485 975183 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm so glad you're not a baby any more.
< 1372461573 200767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he isn't?
< 1372461614 535063 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. He's two years old now.
< 1372461620 935549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
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< 1372463420 683125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote like.poetry
< 1372463420 751811 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :DavidJacobs says: Code is like poetry; most of it shouldn't have been written.
< 1372463461 982461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(belatedly reading HWN)
< 1372463699 130579 :sarasic!~rafasc@ev2-84-90-182-100.netvisao.pt PART :#esoteric
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< 1372466726 381244 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp did i broke agora
< 1372466735 573845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you figure out if you can make a Rust "object" (the existential typeclass thingy) with more than one trait?
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< 1372466771 701012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just one day before 20th anniversary? some irony.
< 1372466926 717950 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no you didn't
< 1372467343 359120 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1372467551 835593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Nope.
< 1372467583 708119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually try the object thing until just now.
< 1372467903 346280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't look like it's possible...
< 1372468103 913477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But maybe #rust would know.)
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< 1372468334 935159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they're talking about traits-as-object-things right now
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< 1372472071 240624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :object traitors
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< 1372475502 253659 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agora's pretty hard to break, in my experience.
< 1372475584 771242 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^
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< 1372475945 286308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it that the disk images for the Famicom are all put together into one file; it would be more useful to put each side of each disk as a separate file, isn't it?
< 1372475982 222086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Seems less convenient.
< 1372476188 22145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, but that could still be solved by adding a user-defined macro to select one.
< 1372476208 969467 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, public forum blah blah
< 1372476222 120398 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, probably declaring a nomic as Hostile should have some actual effect
< 1372476272 932494 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like aiming Agora's nuclear arsenal at it.
< 1372476348 549958 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe there should be a class of nomics called "legitimate nomics", which are nomics that have a recognition other than Unknown or Hostile; rules should generally speak of legitimate nomics, rather than nomics in general
< 1372476365 655960 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be perfectly legal to claim to be the ambassador to a hostile nomic
< 1372476372 487636 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Agoran ambassador
< 1372476399 471810 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Agora had mechanisms for trading with other nomics, then declaring the nomic as Hostile could shut them off.
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< 1372476510 751559 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At any given time, every foreign nomic is Unembargoed, Voluntarily Embargoed (default), or Compulsorily Embargoed. A foreign nomic may switch its embargo status between Unembargoed and Voluntarily Embargoed at any time."
< 1372476546 688761 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, of course, isn't how Agora would phrase that at all.
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< 1372476647 123813 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Embargo Status is a foreign nomic switch, tracked by the Ambassador-at-Large, with values Unembargoed, Voluntarily Embargoed (default), and Compulsorily Embargoed. A foreign nomic CAN switch its embargo status between Unembargoed and Voluntarily Embargoed by announcement."
< 1372476683 651723 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each Foreign Nomic has an Embargo Status, tracked in the GNDT, ..."
< 1372476786 343216 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When this happens, the Sensei SHOULD announce who
< 1372476786 596740 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :      the winner was."
< 1372476791 476340 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that SHOULD and not SHALL?
< 1372476836 347028 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, good question.
< 1372476854 328147 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should found #Esotericists Against Weird Nerd Shit
< 1372477029 137820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_, instead of that, you could try to start a war against Agora
< 1372477037 122719 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more fun
< 1372477043 35686 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-162-110.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you get the point of the Society sir
< 1372477058 208589 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think any nomics that waged war against Agora survived much longer)
< 1372477079 939707 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does AA count as waging war? AA will probably live forever technically
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< 1372490542 614005 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1372490560 766239 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a haskell library where (!) is a disambiguation operator of some kind
< 1372490578 645272 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the fanfiction notation of fic!character or trait!character is valid
< 1372492579 297488 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com NICK :shachaf
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< 1372492682 877886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: #rust on irc.mozilla.org?
< 1372493130 118517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: should I make Rust bindings for udis86? sounds fun imo
< 1372493226 67782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo do it
< 1372493236 344030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll become your signature ffi thing
< 1372493282 656887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was doing some FFIing with ptrace before.
< 1372493807 186944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that go
< 1372493954 808195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remembered how much fun ptrace is
< 1372493962 338088 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it worked more or less
< 1372494100 450484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool
< 1372494346 988115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what did you think of rust's ffi capabilities
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< 1372497677 814846 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:14 < aatch> but remember that &Trait only started working in last week.
< 1372497778 363129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, FFI capabilities.
< 1372497800 625693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like some things are a lot of work to FFI-bind safely.
< 1372497829 660003 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust tries to keep track of some things that Haskell doesn't, like array size sometimes and the things you were mentioning.
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< 1372499635 141464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: remember when i was really terrible
< 1372499646 692103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't but i looked at my old #haskell logs :'(
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< 1372500016 90369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember either
< 1372500019 234671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could look but maybe i won't
< 1372500031 535743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell/07.06.13:18:17:23  jfredett: (>>=) temporarily extracts the inside of the monad and gives it to your function, but only if your function promises that it'll return something wrapped in that same monad eventually.
< 1372500042 339717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1372500095 409535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair other people had given me that explanation first..........
< 1372500687 796900 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think good examples of how thats not true is would be good to have on the wiki
< 1372500702 540555 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "why monads arent burritos"
< 1372500756 580375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many good examples of why it's nonsense.
< 1372500788 560604 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!
< 1372500790 899775 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see me!
< 1372500792 320742 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im surprised.
< 1372500802 474782 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know there are many good examples, but it'd be good to have at hand
< 1372500889 653341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked Apocalisp's thing:
< 1372500901 785820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, what if the monad you're dealing with is, say, a function? How is it going to just give you the value? I imagine the exchange going like this:
< 1372500910 138322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You: "Give me the square root!"
< 1372500912 679584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell: "The square root of what?"
< 1372500915 208040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You: "Just gimme it!"
< 1372500917 717894 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell: "Dude, I don't have it. You have to give me an argument."
< 1372500920 365382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You: "Gah!"
< 1372500930 862904 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? lol
< 1372501279 617771 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think probably a good example is Cont, where general continuations (and not polymorphic ones) definitely cant be said to contain values
< 1372501312 685315 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sort of.
< 1372501315 72813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, functions, man
< 1372501323 359449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, proxy
< 1372501325 354065 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean Reader?
< 1372501327 45416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, whoa, dude
< 1372501332 612499 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know proxy
< 1372501343 182845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reader, more commonly known as (->)
< 1372501348 609853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Proxy a = Proxy
< 1372501362 841972 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, thats a good example
< 1372501378 469365 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reader and Cont both can be wedged into a container mold, and still make some amount of sense
< 1372501381 940626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, Maybe has the same property
< 1372501394 646765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :id :: Int -> Int does not "contain" an Int in any normal usage of the term
< 1372501400 933790 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1372501418 177920 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can view it as a value that is parameterized
< 1372501442 722125 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, thats much the purpose of Reader, viewing things as values, under some background parameter
< 1372501518 834446 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats very much the benefit of monads, often, is letting you think of m a as just an a, with some funny stuff going on in the background
< 1372501557 247139 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :soo what's m (m a)
< 1372501560 360043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/o//
< 1372501601 334334 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a funny way of being an a with funny stuff going on in the background :)
< 1372501643 672027 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im really fond of the computation metaphor myself, honestly
< 1372501668 292050 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :m a is a funny way to compute an a
< 1372501675 350606 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] is a []-y way to compute an a
< 1372501686 212479 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so forth
< 1372501735 609202 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that does make the container metaphor easier to stomach, i feel.
< 1372501786 704233 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the containers are just the computations, not actual boxes
< 1372501799 19765 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stretched metaphor, but
< 1372501828 874512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :stretaphor
< 1372502383 949562 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :IO (IO a))
< 1372502600 88467 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see the point of any metaphors, really
< 1372502630 976281 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you need to understand monads is either  return,join,fmap  or  return,bind
< 1372502653 898722 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monad is like a useful abstraction.have fun
< 1372502675 384540 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where bind or join are where the magic happens
< 1372502855 981979 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1372502898 384654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: not having fun yet
< 1372502932 677345 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah me neither
< 1372504217 635613 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :oonbotti
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< 1372508646 428691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:10:23  it sounds like the kid in the apartment above has recently acquired a marble or something similar.
< 1372508649 455454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:10:47  so, after all, that is what will finally be the end of me.
< 1372508651 935803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:10:59  too many marbles.
< 1372508655 478752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's ok, eventually you'll lose your marbles anyway
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< 1372511444 37637 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :oonbotti
< 1372511483 432620 :oonbotti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
< 1372512396 429216 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372513969 179422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372514144 73256 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi i hear youre older now. happy birthy
< 1372514375 321197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, although it's over now
< 1372514383 103507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm still older though)
< 1372515045 419620 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy post-birthy
< 1372515628 385698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you
< 1372516110 316580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: it's ok, eventually you'll lose your marbles anyway <-- THAT'S THE JOKE. or despair, whatever.
< 1372516265 260984 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be both if you want
< 1372517170 399266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S THE SOMETHING
< 1372517247 640902 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be both even if you don't want
< 1372517324 434793 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving.
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< 1372518443 763523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (I don't think any nomics that waged war against Agora survived much longer) <-- i suspect technically no nomics other than agora "survived much longer" in general.
< 1372518488 914221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um B!!!!
< 1372518492 577094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.
< 1372518498 986473 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically that died like a decade ago
< 1372518518 943247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the second oldest nomic these days?
< 1372518581 107834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1179027/86400
< 1372518581 864724 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  13.646145833333334
< 1372518608 726409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: um, probably blognomic?
< 1372518621 477279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1179027/86400 - 13)*24
< 1372518622 276468 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  15.507500000000007
< 1372518627 564743 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :circa 2003
< 1372518630 774218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er
< 1372518646 761483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (14-1179027/86400)*24
< 1372518647 582650 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  8.492499999999993
< 1372518660 106739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait hm
< 1372518671 478463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm why does blognomic's header have a statement of the principle of extensional set equality in it right now
< 1372518676 639542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 583042/86400
< 1372518677 619695 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  6.748171296296296
< 1372518711 985217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (7-583042/86400)*24
< 1372518713 23902 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  6.043888888888894
< 1372518769 343122 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan
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< 1372518789 310348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*perdito@*.pool.mediaWays.net
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< 1372518803 545991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.*
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< 1372518943 250679 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :[]{}
< 1372518944 380745 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this dynasty's about logic
< 1372518946 52960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan
> 1372518946 75867 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1372518953 622356 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something
< 1372518954 844048 :[]{}!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
< 1372518956 613874 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, if I wanted to get someone into nomic, BlogNomic might be an easier start I guess?
< 1372519041 611917 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oerjan: um, probably blognomic? << I think Blognomic was started in 2005... I'm not sure that makes it the oldest
< 1372519051 673338 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't know if you wanna count the frc
< 1372519056 45285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 2003
< 1372519060 519992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked it up
< 1372519063 221733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh frc :P
< 1372519081 999755 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372519096 264546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think of it as an "ordinary" nomic, but of course it's slightly older than agora.
< 1372519168 965856 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By Agora's definitions, it is a nomic, right?
< 1372519217 626931 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a nomic with a slightly odd rule changing mechanism
< 1372519220 266163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is canada.
< 1372519239 493284 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372519246 459446 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*so ARE canada
< 1372519250 327263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 
< 1372519253 734214 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay.. esoteric in full colour
< 1372519277 783437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome
< 1372519279 805235 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I guess that other canada is dead
< 1372519280 365697 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12W06e03lcome07 to the internationa12l h07ub 12fo11r esoteric progr02amming 02lan06guage d07esign a12n04d d13eploym04ent! For more in13f07ormation05, check10 out 06our wiki: http:/11/eso03langs.org/w02i14ki/Ma04in_02Page. (Fo06r the13 othe05r kind of esoterica, t02ry10 14#esote07ric on irc.dal.net.)
< 1372519302 193233 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you master oerjan
< 1372519307 756052 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*so is Canadum
< 1372519490 676473 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :oonbotti
< 1372519512 93759 :oonbotti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
< 1372520064 251132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe i should found #Esotericists Against Weird Nerd Shit <-- that's like Cannibals Against Eating Meat, right?
< 1372520145 268985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reminded about that motor bus latin joke

< 1372520178 453651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Motor_Bus
< 1372520298 526835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you learn that in class? :P
< 1372520767 458725 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
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< 1372522432 169625 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-236-21.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1372524166 245131 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike
< 1372525364 113562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372525607 968635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
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< 1372525817 19282 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1372526645 928500 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea/bad idea? Taking a brand new $650 smartphone into the shower
< 1372526713 847667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad hth
< 1372526800 996565 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too late
< 1372526885 300510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mind boggles at how you managed it
< 1372526933 464972 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The phone in question is supposed to be somewhat waterproof -- resistant for 30 minutes submerged 1 meter deep
< 1372526959 642937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...are you ircing from the shower.
< 1372526967 654135 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Although I did consider it.
< 1372527007 696981 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The screen needs to be dry to process input properly, which kind of sucks.
< 1372527240 60486 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found out my ipad isn't waterproof "the hard way"
< 1372527248 454046 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it die
< 1372527314 82594 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1372527629 553450 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... then it's waterproof?
< 1372527700 384950 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i was gone
< 1372527707 164540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hold down the Info button for a few seconds, and the TG-2 becomes a very expensive flashlight." (Waterproof camera review.)
< 1372527727 634100 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D
< 1372527729 816163 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it wasn't a lot of water, but some of it got in the headphone jack and i had to dry it out
< 1372527746 206761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It can turn the focus illumination led on like that.)
< 1372528593 803052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Galaxy S4 Active?
< 1372528619 94441 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, yes
< 1372528635 256913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Samsung has already made a splash with its feature-rich smartphone the Galaxy S4. Now it is hoping to generate enthusiasm for a Galaxy S4 variant that can survive one, in most circumstances."
< 1372528639 509388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is... strained
< 1372528686 840752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1372528748 794635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'm just too stupid at this moment to connect pronouns
< 1372528795 189983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I realized that the operational difference between composition and inheritance is less significant in C++, where you can have members of object (not reference-to-object) type
< 1372528808 741162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is there a good concise term fro "object (not reference-to-object) type"
< 1372528856 402832 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm honestly more interested to know if it's drop-proof... it hasn't particularly been advertised as such, but that's why I bought it
< 1372529056 2470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people argue about whether MAME/MESS is free software and open source.
< 1372529206 345077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe "object value type"
< 1372529282 860048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm
< 1372529320 902872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't get shorter than what you said without getting ambiguous I think
< 1372529834 248737 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"objectvaluetype"
< 1372529901 293952 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OVT
< 1372530024 507422 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing
< 1372530051 938548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"object value type" was already ambiguous though
< 1372530173 640204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I don't know how e.g. JVMs lay out subclasses; maybe they do have pointers to superclass objects
< 1372530186 207843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I doubt it because you should never need virtual inheritance without MI
< 1372531268 722197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ""object (not reference-to-object) type" in C++ is a structure type, isn't it?
< 1372531298 25888 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372531361 991074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could call it that
< 1372531378 855431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but someone might think you mean POD structures by that
< 1372531481 173520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that?
< 1372531630 837715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_old_data_structure
< 1372531722 1482 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is POD like, a language-independent term for 'struct'?
< 1372531734 205621 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a c++ term of art
< 1372531893 145683 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with UDT for that?
< 1372531913 782333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it stands for "plain old data" but I think mainly C++ people use it? maybe java people too and I think they use it to mean something else
< 1372531919 933326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh kmc already linked
< 1372531924 781550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I don't think it has a consistent cross-language meaning
< 1372531993 646048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that a C++ POD can have non-virtual methods
< 1372532044 671073 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also POJO.. which is used by java programmers quite often.. (see also POCO for c..same meaning)
< 1372532056 444292 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't sound all that plain!
< 1372532065 837190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because those are sort of just ordinary functions that take an implicit first argument
< 1372532072 166842 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and old
< 1372532162 289902 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does anyone understand the stone-weierstrass theorem because it seems real cool
< 1372532187 152468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plain old c object?
< 1372532209 24508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it involves numbers
< 1372532209 161665 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yolo
< 1372532219 599281 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't!
< 1372532223 983835 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, but reading further the term seems to be used more in the c# community
< 1372532226 597813 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@kmc
< 1372532226 701391 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: src rc ghc
< 1372532227 10351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you old live object
< 1372532240 252767 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally no numbers the relevant wikipedia article section!!
< 1372532249 888381 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers suck, imo.
< 1372532397 534987 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :analysis is all numbers!!
< 1372532413 245308 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinda fucked up analysis you doin son
< 1372532458 299928 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :analysis is building a tower on some crazy ol axioms
< 1372533509 100101 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real analysis sucks; complex analysis is the way to go.
< 1372533514 93805 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One milliatyllion is 10^2^1002.
< 1372533526 328513 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably it should be handled algebraically, because who likes doing anything analytically?
< 1372533613 880477 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Differential algebras rule, man.
< 1372533665 520729 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh
< 1372533677 44468 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just as bored now as I was yesterday when my router was bust
< 1372533682 139072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also!
< 1372533693 114728 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't *actually* know how to do complex analysis purely algebraically.
< 1372533705 2871 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very early yesterday morning, someone mistook me for, and I quote, "that guy who invented Facebok"
< 1372533708 143905 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Facebook
< 1372533720 715130 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, neat.
< 1372533768 993219 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For reference, I bear no resemblance to Mark Zuckerberg whatsoever
< 1372533873 601096 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. If f is a holomorphic function, does the differential equation dy/dx = f(x) necessarily have solutions in neighborhoods of the origin?
< 1372533922 622822 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... yes. Integrate both sides. Boom.
< 1372533939 301126 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does every holomorphic function have an integral which is also holomorphic? You'd hope so.
< 1372533960 847974 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it make sense to speak of a holomorphic function C x C -> C?
< 1372534085 194633 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bunch of people said I looked like James Bond
< 1372534094 786688 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that made more sense because I was wearing a dinner suit
< 1372534105 673393 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And am tall with dark hair
< 1372534108 392653 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's such a thing as "looking like James Bond", is there?
< 1372534116 617702 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daniel Craig doesn't look like Sean Connery.
< 1372534129 729438 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my friends went into quite some depth about it
< 1372534164 121153 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said that while I bore little resemblance to any particular incarnation of James Bond, I looked as though I could have been an incarnation unto myself
< 1372534235 157035 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On account of my dress and the way I was carrying myself
< 1372534239 22011 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also what I was drinking
< 1372534247 99697 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :martini?
< 1372534264 359528 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heineken, which I am told sponsors the franchise
< 1372534285 133930 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if f is a holomorphic function in x and y (which hopefully means something), does the differential equation dy/dx = f(x,y) necessarily have solutions in neighborhoods of the origin? Pretty sure you can come up with a Taylor series, at least.
< 1372534317 75117 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some bizarre reason it was being sold in 2/3 pint glasses
< 1372534321 281982 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all power series define functions, though. Here's one that doesn't: f(x) = 0! x^0 + 1! x^1 + 2! x^2 + 3! x^3 + 4! x^4 + ...
< 1372534336 462669 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people whom Taneb is not
< 1372534341 79123 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :people whom Taneb is not? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1372534341 541217 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                               |
< 1372534341 705689 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                             º¯`\o
< 1372534384 385973 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond" > wisdom/people\ who\ Taneb\ is\ not
< 1372534387 952342 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1372534390 173278 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people whom Taneb is not
< 1372534391 990763 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :people whom Taneb is not? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1372534392 313841 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                               |
< 1372534392 547008 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                             o/`¯º
< 1372534394 929578 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who Taneb is not
< 1372534396 505050 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who Taneb is not? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1372534396 846554 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                              |
< 1372534397 89485 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            º¯`\o
< 1372534400 357981 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1372534402 900518 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : I suck
< 1372534491 694713 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people\ who\ Taneb\ is\ not
< 1372534492 813707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lower the case? 
< 1372534493 582285 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :people\ who\ Taneb\ is\ not? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1372534493 882140 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                  |
< 1372534494 15130 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                o/`¯º
< 1372534512 879587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to lowercase that t in the filename, yes
< 1372534513 231705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR wisdom looks for lowercase files.
< 1372534554 367846 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/people\ who\ Taneb\ is\ not wisdom/people\ who\ taneb\ is\ not
< 1372534558 41892 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1372534566 380025 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who taneb is not
< 1372534568 558316 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond
< 1372534572 463275 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? people who Taneb is not
< 1372534573 943199 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, a rabbi, Mark Zuckerberg, James Bond
< 1372534681 660320 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-174-44.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1372534737 395137 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1372534843 343101 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there are a lot of people whom Taneb is not, I think it would be better if it selected a few at random every time
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< 1372536166 830148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose my religious views might be classified as panendeism, although some of my views differ from what is common in any classification.
< 1372536710 804843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do the features of Black-C fit into the stuff about POD structures and so on?
< 1372536718 404061 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it called when f (g(a), a) = g(a) for all a?
< 1372536749 55192 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all a in the domain of g
< 1372536767 61226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't know.
< 1372536778 31190 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of a fixed point?
< 1372536784 172753 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a fixed curve
< 1372536795 796556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, snd
< 1372536803 722082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1372536804 539050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fst
< 1372536824 164006 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1372536831 250271 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean something like "g is a fixed curve of f
< 1372536832 390840 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"
< 1372536850 24415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that is one thing that meets this description, but I think you mean in general, not just one specific function.
< 1372536859 480301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apply?
< 1372536865 264285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ????
< 1372536884 298198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :full disclosure, i have no idea what the fuck kind of notation Taneb is using
< 1372536884 709071 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f can be defined for (x, y)s s.t. x is not g(y)
< 1372536894 291161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, for any y that isn't in the domain of g, as Taneb said
< 1372536907 665191 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it just f(g(a), a) = g(a). like. normal math
< 1372536907 953531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even if y is in the domain of g and x just happens to be equal to something other than g(y)
< 1372536956 13992 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When f(a, b) is b^(b^(a *b + 1)) and g(a) = 1/(1-a), for example
< 1372536958 79297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am terrifically confused
< 1372536974 945711 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: aren't you like... studying mathematics. at university
< 1372536974 998726 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so, you don't need g, do you?
< 1372536977 6595 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't ask how I found that example.)
< 1372536982 776491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't f(x,y) = x satisfy Taneb's equation then
< 1372536983 201088 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just say f(b, a) = b for all b in some set.
< 1372536988 174033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372536990 595402 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :satisfies, but it's not the only possibility.
< 1372536991 798128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't mean other functions don't
< 1372537009 460437 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, it does satisfy it
< 1372537018 887101 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(x,y) = x if x is an integer, otherwise -1
< 1372537021 433440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance f(x) = x has a fixed point but we don't call the property of having a fixed point "being identity" :P
< 1372537026 202801 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not a name for the bunch of things that satisfy it
< 1372537059 534616 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, no, a, what am i saying.
< 1372537158 468292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh `i get it now'
< 1372537307 240476 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like this is probably too conceptually muddy to have a name
< 1372537336 511726 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372537384 6905 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a pair of functions f and g where g has domain A and codomain B and f has domain (BxA) and codomain B such that for all x in A, f(g(x), x) = g(x)
< 1372537389 640091 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I write that correctly?
< 1372537416 829616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :g's domain can be smaller than A.
< 1372537429 294827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also your notation is v. verbose
< 1372537429 316142 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have g : X -> Y and f : (Y, X') -> Y' where Y isin Y' and X isin X', is what i was thinking of messaging but didn't
< 1372537432 112610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about
< 1372537435 210948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right what Bike said.
< 1372537440 323777 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except "in" is wrong it's subset. but whatever.
< 1372537445 744723 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah durr.
< 1372537457 122171 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually use tex :-(
< 1372537474 811985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's even \isin I just interpreted it informally. it's ok I forgive you
< 1372537511 680938 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway and for all x in X, f(g(x),x) = g(x) big whoop
< 1372537532 998463 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's a name for something a bit generalized. like saying f(g(x),x) = h(x) instead or somethin
< 1372537540 14068 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw this all actually has a purpose
< 1372537550 182249 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is a purpose
< 1372537557 349564 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit like a dolphin
< 1372537561 324692 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o
< 1372537594 385956 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, the first in line to the throne of France
< 1372537886 154933 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone just suggest a good name for it, then?
< 1372537905 401142 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "Taneb function"
< 1372537943 415474 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definition: a function satisfying the Taneb condition on the two Taneb spaces, X and Y
< 1372538032 505582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-modules
< 1372538034 547861 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them.
< 1372538048 443228 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions
< 1372538050 581165 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules and automatic squirrel feeders
< 1372538061 284528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :question: are d-modules a taneb space
< 1372538082 580573 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you believe with all your heart, then maybe they are!
< 1372538086 258661 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1372538090 361148 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) is an automatic squirrel feeder like a crow vending machine (2) do squirrels live in Taneb space
< 1372538091 618978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trick question, all spaces are Taneb
< 1372538118 776240 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, (1) it's more like a seesaw and (2) yes
< 1372538153 848358 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet
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< 1372542144 217504 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :shikhin
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< 1372543600 29193 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1372543718 527724 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372543761 317984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372543865 79305 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372544374 665183 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f863-165.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372544405 198232 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f863-165.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372544420 358709 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oonbotti2: test
< 1372544420 734014 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f863-165.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very interesting.
< 1372544705 689695 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: test
< 1372544921 931376 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: fungot is not here
< 1372544982 760249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here!? how can this be?
< 1372545003 479723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: !!!
< 1372545068 386762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungot
< 1372545071 379621 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot cannot be stopped by that sword alone.
< 1372545207 147808 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fungot
< 1372545208 903083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :11)  GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 14)  Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. \ 15)  oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. plea
< 1372545238 351076 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that'll have to suffice then
< 1372545242 517591 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372545310 505797 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372545313 634437 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it that a headphone jack can be made waterproof (so it doesn't need a cover) but a USB port cannot?
< 1372545334 148793 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you waterproof?
< 1372545334 487313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Imma asleep.)
< 1372545335 425727 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: fnord iood haha ok safari opened it after about two months time, i'll start posting some of my libraries uses them under plt
< 1372545391 32105 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep must not prevent our mission critical bots from functioning
< 1372545930 686451 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this book very funny: http://jbot.de/zwwHC
< 1372545958 91845 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix haters handbook
< 1372546001 219066 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, 350 pages too, which page is the funniest?
< 1372546019 65623 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :161
< 1372546123 561803 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's have the letter from bruce howard on 258 :)
< 1372546274 395430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so does anyone understand the stone-weierstrass theorem because it seems real cool <-- well i used to do so, anyway.
< 1372546292 31950 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in oerjan's understanding-things days
< 1372546302 888384 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark days indeed
< 1372546335 933676 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I'm shilling for Samsung every time I mention my phone. How do I make that feeling go away?
< 1372546347 907240 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop mentioning ur phone
< 1372546355 195222 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i also love the "evolution of a programmer"..a good snack on 251
< 1372546370 293280 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so true
< 1372546516 484631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Does every holomorphic function have an integral which is also holomorphic? You'd hope so. <-- yes, iirc the taylor series have the same radii of convergence around each point
< 1372546523 422405 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: or, if you must mention your phone, just stop mentioning the make and model of it
< 1372546943 286521 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In each case, our code was compiled using GCC version 4.5.1 with either the -O3 flag set or the -O1 flag set, whichever resulted in faster code (except for [...] which performed significantly better when compiled with GCC 4.1.2 using the -O1 flag)" isn't that grand
< 1372547021 618142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what're you reading?
< 1372547078 399066 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that nsa thing
< 1372547120 976297 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the simon and speck families of lightweight block ciphers"
< 1372547309 369963 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cipher is like ten lines of c, i'm kind of curious what differences they could get
< 1372547689 737918 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1372547823 884707 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372549198 868974 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case it may be worth to check the assembly
< 1372549468 403748 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that decrementing a value in a loop can be significantly faster then incrementing it? some compilers optimize the assembly so it makes no difference.. but without optimization the assembly code is ..yea..just longer (more steps)
< 1372549681 145407 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because it's easy to check if something is zero
< 1372549696 5582 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But to compare two values, you have to subtract and then check if it's zero
< 1372549703 93259 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1372549935 151438 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?"
< 1372549974 502257 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It adds up over many loop iterations
< 1372549998 164893 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it probably doesn't matter unless you are really trying to pull out max performance
< 1372550013 398444 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372550018 214922 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :By then you might be writing the assembly yourself anyway
< 1372550647 423974 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1372551941 958298 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish dvorakbot were here.
< 1372551947 446976 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He really brightened up this channel.
< 1372551951 840428 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372551955 34250 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs wistfully.

< 1372552091 607260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorakbot: what did you do again?
< 1372552102 888206 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same thing as la_fen.
< 1372552119 363991 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$u a
< 1372552120 25235 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A (a)
< 1372552150 30461 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :List of dvorakbot's commands: http://pastie.org/8095682
< 1372552161 592627 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard oerjan
< 1372552162 452029 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 1: oerjan
< 1372552173 700490 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations on being a card.
< 1372552185 639508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek
< 1372552199 92780 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$moveallto deck
< 1372552199 700883 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cards moved.
< 1372552206 234040 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$draw
< 1372552207 146648 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No cards in draw pile.
< 1372552214 353779 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops.
< 1372552216 337280 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$moveallto draw
< 1372552216 988098 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cards moved.
< 1372552218 773888 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$draw
< 1372552219 468908 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card drawn.
< 1372552223 17221 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what card it is!
< 1372552250 965396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard orson
< 1372552251 631189 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 2: orson
< 1372552376 862566 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens to these cards?
< 1372552382 329922 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are they?
< 1372552387 596964 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$where 1
< 1372552388 434545 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In pile: tswett's hand
< 1372552390 863028 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$where 2
< 1372552391 627106 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowhere
< 1372552396 365775 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$where 3
< 1372552397 367055 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KeyError: 3 (file "/Users/tswett/Documents/Hobbies/Programming/Python/phenny/modules/dvorak.py", line 139, in where_card)
< 1372552412 644823 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorakbot handles all errors gracefully.
< 1372552531 206615 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, now i know ur local username!
< 1372552575 218665 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh. Now you can )(4xx0r4t3 me.
< 1372552750 983547 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D, i am so 1337 at that
< 1372552813 819513 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s;top
< 1372552910 846735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only you can stop them elliott 
< 1372552947 104472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it forest fires, i'm not sure
< 1372552948 597393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that was directed specifically at bike hth
< 1372552961 847231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 1337
< 1372552963 285162 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337: 7 191
< 1372552968 587559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wasn't it oerjan who could stop forest fires?
< 1372552975 843404 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it was oerjan.
< 1372552988 869550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i've never tried stopping a forest fire
< 1372553014 462202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm sure fungot could say that to lots of people if it wanted to
< 1372553015 417965 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you should do it. thanks for pointing out a pro ( or con). modulo a b)
< 1372553037 983191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :modular arguments
< 1372553224 383784 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :‮"oof" <
< 1372553278 785267 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :‮.rof si retcarahc siht tahw erus toN
< 1372553385 327420 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. "The right-to-left override, for example, can be used to force a part number made of mixed English, digits and Hebrew letters to be written from right to left."
< 1372553625 841445 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you mind to reactivate bike elliott?
< 1372553700 73035 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372553752 82885 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard clog
< 1372553753 232051 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 3: clog
< 1372553754 300553 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard EgoBot
< 1372553756 83941 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 4: EgoBot
< 1372553762 103553 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard fngot
< 1372553763 169766 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 5: fngot
< 1372553766 440425 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops.
< 1372553788 475210 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$delete 5
< 1372553789 237529 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card deleted.
< 1372553791 203794 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard fungot
< 1372553791 554467 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: the best explanation of what he meant
< 1372553792 41640 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 6: fungot
< 1372553792 792368 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorakbot: but if i start generating absurd amounts of money from my sick leave and i have 0.8.6 running on this computer
< 1372553793 62510 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372553816 183628 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel has a lot of bots.
< 1372553825 492383 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard HackEgo
< 1372553826 430683 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 7: HackEgo
< 1372553827 549789 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$newcard lambdabot
< 1372553828 298515 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card 8: lambdabot
< 1372553831 167993 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$moveallto draw
< 1372553832 20038 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cards moved.
< 1372553833 981053 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$shuffle draw
< 1372553835 200741 :dvorakbot!~dvorakbot@c-107-5-152-253.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pile shuffled: Draw pile.
< 1372553867 544888 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: can you also define rules? or are they defined someway?
< 1372553882 98358 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, the rules are just whatever you've previously agreed on.
< 1372553923 346759 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bot is unfinished, but it's also usable. It can do almost everything DvorakMUSH, I think it was, can do.
< 1372553989 245521 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh.. i think i know that one
< 1372554315 761016 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is dvorak a popular game where in the US?
< 1372554335 948076 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, I think it's completely obscure worldwide.
< 1372554376 685117 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh if it's the game i know it's spoken "durak" and means "fool" in russian
< 1372554419 230432 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's quite popular in germany ..so
< 1372554426 99426 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372554596 4073 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1372554804 51212 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bxscawvyaonswzia QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1372554865 37838 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :noloveinwaikiki
< 1372555367 616472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly recalls a silly norwegian children's song about a many-headed monster remembering his love affair in hawaii

< 1372555387 716852 :noloveinwaikiki!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1372555434 492930 :noloveinwaikiki!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think you can find a version on the net?
< 1372555504 693558 :noloveinwaikiki!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay.. it's not that important
< 1372555514 790986 :noloveinwaikiki!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mean to waste your time
< 1372555547 414842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not available in your country" :/
< 1372555555 379432 :noloveinwaikiki!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yt video?
< 1372555586 516993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Htk_XLPuWs
< 1372555608 647460 :noloveinwaikiki!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :great <3
< 1372555710 944470 :noloveinwaikiki!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd
< 1372556063 426943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out that video was recorded in trondheim
< 1372556069 141990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- there
< 1372556091 210149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can I come visit
< 1372556093 926289 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mysticwindblowing*
< 1372556098 457427 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1372556151 91570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can come to trondheim but we can never meet there hth
< 1372556158 912471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but what if I bring taneb
< 1372556174 826987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, tricky
< 1372556628 931997 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://distractionware.com/games/flash/vvvvvvproto/
< 1372556643 396902 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This music doesn't seem to be in PPPPPP or VVVVVV
< 1372557109 675936 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, http://www.souleye.se/adventure has songs that are on VVVVVV 2 but not 1 (I didn't even know there was a 2)
< 1372557182 105158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is... is there a reason kmc is pinged
< 1372557250 54111 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because he's interested in that stuff
< 1372557269 632171 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or because sgeo is evil
< 1372557287 197923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 
< 1372557307 712395 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because kmc has expressed liking of PPPPPP previously
< 1372557325 634482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here i was going with the sgeo is evil hypothesis
< 1372557344 491641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY NOT BOTH hth
< 1372557375 575733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth hth hth hth
< 1372557379 432553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monoids hth monoids hth monoids
< 1372557409 299999 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372557426 228424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :The channel for helpful people | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric and http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
< 1372557435 941747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ("monoids hth" <>)
< 1372557436 777963 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  "monoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids ...
< 1372557439 588347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1372557442 288582 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthmonoids
< 1372557463 912008 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids
< 1372557466 307162 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are the easy version of categories.
< 1372557538 340053 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.158.114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids ...
< 1372557542 806322 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that.
< 1372557589 58236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/hthmonoid{s,} # hth
< 1372557592 412170 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
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< 1372557630 710579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this hth and monoids thing is getting a little out of hand.
< 1372557655 196819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy hth hand
< 1372557669 149147 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's gotten a lot out of hand & has gone from being kind of ««««ironically»»»» silly to just silly & also poop dumb
< 1372557715 936158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but.
< 1372557729 837168 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Butt
< 1372557738 687781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: going further than is reasonable until it starts being funny again is arguably the whole idea here!!
< 1372557741 729455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth.
< 1372557753 902534 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has never worked ever
< 1372557769 444628 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you just haven't tried enough, hth
< 1372558142 878118 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? it's not as bad as it sounds..and maybe a direct consequence of that long-year-relationships grown in this channel.. but there's a lot of "insider" jokes or references made here.. they're cool sure, but may in worst case (which is not a tragedy) keep newcomers out..
< 1372558177 257867 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's really not a problem
< 1372558188 841160 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think
< 1372558213 834210 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :most newbie are welcomed and always given a chance here
< 1372558219 463438 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*newbies
< 1372558388 447217 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand that is what makes a good community..development and preservation of culture
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< 1372558621 731310 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i don't have any skin.. hope you can make any sense of this
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< 1372558653 452317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not the last line, no
< 1372558668 627872 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :development of culture?
< 1372558680 93950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shit i don't have any skin"
< 1372558686 565770 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this part
< 1372558687 955481 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1372558702 502080 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan don't be so intolerant, if we can have bicycles we can have horrific jumbles of flesh and bone
< 1372558717 798968 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a lymphatic system :)
< 1372558735 230602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an emphatic system
< 1372558741 281340 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is Bike sux
< 1372558770 953461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one didn't really work so well :(
< 1372558810 37336 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1372558843 245251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike jokes are tired and flat
< 1372558851 154225 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372558861 480229 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
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< 1372559300 466807 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
< 1372559361 504463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: now what
< 1372559380 977247 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372559416 115975 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AOL is a commonly recognized root CA?
< 1372559431 745300 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say so
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< 1372562867 876805 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now for something completely different
< 1372562921 39105 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
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< 1372572038 804573 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quoting from a message on Chess Variants: "What is the interface of Chess and reality? Is Chess the unreal? Or the other way around. ... If Chess existed first, why not invent a Reality to conform to it? What reality would that be? ..."
< 1372572056 369776 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chesseality, imo.
< 1372572140 105565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did write a reply. My own point of view is that mathematics is the real reality.
< 1372572371 740131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks reality
< 1372572373 155486 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, reality. Theality.
< 1372572411 179824 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a truce has been established. I am now neutral on speech recognition
< 1372572457 651211 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1372572482 548026 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I still hate it a little.
< 1372572527 654198 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you give up your non-biology-related principles!
< 1372572546 69977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think about it speech recognition = biology.
< 1372572580 131693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a game be defined with sequent calculus in a symmetric way? I have been able to define the subtraction game although the rules aren't symmetric for each player; the first player has to select a rule to follow (if the proof is working from bottom to top), while the second player selects which sequent above the line will be the next state.
< 1372572595 152218 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the only similar thing between them is that you hate them! and that' snot even true any mroe! NOTHING IS REAL ELLIOTT
< 1372572608 833381 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike. shut up.
< 1372572629 352512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, speech recognition = humans = biology
< 1372572668 509671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! They are related in this way, but it is different kind of things.
< 1372572793 945207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is a single sequent above and a single below the line, then you can define single-player games, such as sokoban. The axiom schema is positions with one player, any number of empty spaces, any number of crates-on-targets, and nothing else.
< 1372572857 213043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, any solvable game is a theorem of this system.
< 1372572867 668042 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372572949 524483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make anything similar, or make a better two-player game with this?
< 1372573041 14956 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: zzo38's right here, man. it is different kind of things!
< 1372573275 134463 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages?
< 1372573275 238441 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today.
< 1372573278 533809 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay
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< 1372573717 903582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have another idea about sequent calculus. Define a "macro" to mean following many rules, in a polymorphic way (but not necessarily as polymorphic as the original rules), and put together to form a single admissible rule. Therefore, a "theorem" is really a "macro" with nothing above the line. Isn't it?
< 1372574874 240259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: least and greatest fixed points are so much imo
< 1372574893 865639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should, like, learn about them and stuff
< 1372574916 525653 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me
< 1372574950 157225 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write a blog post/essay/talk relating Taneb-style fixed curves to control-passing-style
< 1372575258 81918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What are those things?
< 1372575284 156657 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pair of functions f and g such that f(g(x), x) = g(x)
< 1372575293 643263 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :splines?
< 1372575313 36048 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no..
< 1372575324 229505 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more specific
< 1372575609 878137 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's absolutely somethin different
< 1372575809 848045 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bugger, I've made a stupid mistake
< 1372575835 912025 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, this has totally failed
< 1372575865 18673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: maybe you can answer my questions about fixed points instead then...
< 1372575924 721572 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like banach's fixed points. they're p. good.
< 1372575986 105856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like Knaster-Tarski theorem....
< 1372575991 164517 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was onto something deep
< 1372576003 937606 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I made the mistake of saying the xth root of x was 1
< 1372576007 585499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fixed-point_theorems
< 1372576007 963409 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarski's fixed points are also p. good
< 1372576008 251181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help
< 1372576040 494782 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the stuff about assigning truth values to weirdass sentences based on tarski's fixed points
< 1372576043 588665 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty cool imo
< 1372576071 121882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but i heard about "definedness analysis and liveness analysis" or something
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< 1372576080 127161 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on
< 1372576088 837185 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It approaches 1 as x approaches infinity!
< 1372576090 388981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it mean to "assign  truth values to weirdass sentences based on tarski's fixed points"?
< 1372576091 963151 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This could be useful!
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< 1372576106 98215 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh lemme look
< 1372576124 862518 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dives into pile of pdfs

< 1372576177 275186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that like the logic equivalent of zeta regularisation
< 1372576211 425268 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I still can't make that assumption
< 1372576240 697243 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also numbers have, like, more than one root.
< 1372576286 150908 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh where the hell is this paper. it was good
< 1372576348 730181 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no it's not like zeta regularization very much
< 1372576362 379679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike
< 1372576376 59268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you informed tarski that lattice theory is a waste of time b. you should really be doing category theory instead
< 1372576400 739896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well I mean, in spirit.
< 1372576414 176640 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs.

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< 1372576434 126084 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow tarski's paper has about 2400 cites.
< 1372576438 142533 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, fuck.
< 1372576465 960814 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo read them all
< 1372576468 419640 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.springerlink.com/index/H880Q5G6M9661313.pdf here, something about "categories" that cites it. ur welcome.
< 1372576576 813691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$39.95 hooray
< 1372576618 418709 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok found it http://comet.lehman.cuny.edu/fitting/bookspapers/pdf/papers/TruthFalse.pdf
< 1372576665 272148 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves things being true and false because, like, lol.
< 1372576712 73096 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's actually kripke's not tarski's?? so you can tell him yourself shachaf.
< 1372576725 649632 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1372576738 717849 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b63cd.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers
< 1372576746 818168 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1372576841 242382 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew taneb's thing looked familiar. it's like an IVP where f = f', which is dumb but oh well
< 1372576875 394127 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like a differential equation rather.
< 1372576876 920346 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dumb one
< 1372577106 244005 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the truth behind Assassin's Creed is that a logic with the axiom "forall x. x is false" is inconsistent
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< 1372577135 534654 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :comp_Monoid_Elements_is_assoc : forall x y z, multiply_Monoid_Elements x (multiply_Monoid_Elements y z) = multiply_Monoid_Elements (multiply_Monoid_Elements x y) z
< 1372577141 793323 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking there might be a way of making that shorter.
< 1372577191 231960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, unless "forall" and "is false" is sufficiently restrictive, then yes it probably is inconsistent.
< 1372577242 92280 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does x range over, there?
< 1372577247 727651 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If its domain is empty, then that axiom is true.
< 1372577257 944910 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you couldn't find an x such that ¬x is true!!
< 1372577280 353697 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, a logic with the axiom "not P" for all formulas P would definitely be inconsistent.
< 1372577309 158562 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, the joke is, that when this is combined with the principle of explosion, you get "Nothing is true, everything is permitted"
< 1372577317 789915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I don't think that is necessarily inconsistent either if the logic is sufficiently restrictive.
< 1372577334 199094 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hm, sounds true.
< 1372577353 900121 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, have a picture. http://i.imgur.com/tKns3wi.jpg
< 1372577369 163911 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen it a dozen times at least
< 1372577383 850307 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still good though.
< 1372577392 15478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't inconsistent unless all well-formed strings are theorems.
< 1372577430 33159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what if the axiom itself is in its domain
< 1372577481 932056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, of course it is in its own domain, but I don't think that changes what I said.
< 1372577506 850072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then it is trivially true (it is an axiom), but also false!
< 1372577597 621679 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you have?
< 1372577602 690384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe it isn't necessary "true" or "false" but can be a theorem or nontheorem, since "false" might not necessarily be meaningful in a logic such as this.
< 1372577602 779878 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well, feast your eyes on this! http://i.imgur.com/tKns3wi.jpg
< 1372577619 49623 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, I've seen that at least a baker's dozen times!
< 1372577634 910800 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, you said the thing I was hoping you were going to say.
< 1372577635 798624 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, shh it was a bad joke
< 1372577816 118150 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to learn how to use a sword
< 1372577820 522859 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also how to ride a unicycle
< 1372577825 819607 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps not at the same time
< 1372578355 550471 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. So, given an object in a category, its endomorphisms form a monoid.
< 1372578363 671171 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This feels like a natural transformation.
< 1372578433 631645 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's just a functor.
< 1372578452 492167 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the category of categories to the category of monoids.
< 1372578469 314197 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm, no, that would mean that it turns every category into a monoid.
< 1372578484 480371 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one, given a category, turns all of that category's objects into monoids.
< 1372578509 640871 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you just talking about a subcategory with one object?
< 1372578522 152062 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess I am.
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< 1372579832 436658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you not want to learn to use a sword while riding a unicycle while blindfolded?
< 1372579851 7143 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, why not
< 1372580275 163559 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372580297 31229 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the World Egg Throwing Championships today :-)
< 1372581540 1960 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :constructivism, more like destructivism
< 1372581547 69553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that constructivism is bad
< 1372582307 239607 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372582926 310540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog the joke is
< 1372582943 381865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs the joke is
< 1372582963 726407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc
< 1372582969 239705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf
< 1372582974 431717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't i paste logs
< 1372582975 675614 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14280
< 1372582980 804109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no patience
< 1372582983 293905 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20487
< 1372582984 463866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thackego
< 1372582998 19148 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372583022 321839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's sf
< 1372583103 65290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1372583142 805216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that fixed points are the best thing in the world
< 1372583159 111176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a huge party in the middle of the street in the castro
< 1372583171 724528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard about such things
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< 1372583198 869493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372583243 584684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a huge number of people in dolores park before that
< 1372583268 374332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice park
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< 1372583449 92297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so which this F-Fix thing
< 1372583455 755352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a category F-Fix(C) where an object is (X : C, f : X <-> F X) and an arrow (X, f) -> (Y, g) is an arrow h : X -> Y such that fmap h . f = g . h
< 1372583466 772173 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/which/with/ /me sighs
< 1372583514 510886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you have a forgetful functor : F-Fix(C) -> C does it have a left adjoint
< 1372583525 462712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by C i mean Hask btw
< 1372583532 850153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a forgetful functor
< 1372583539 738778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i guess not in general because that would be a monad
< 1372583570 832104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: me too
< 1372583584 169493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is the joke that you left adjoint unsmoked in sf
< 1372583603 610873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that's the opposite of the joke
< 1372583617 205955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-
< 1372583640 683060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc doesn't like drugz jokes
< 1372583643 442223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we reduce kmc to just drugz all the time we'll drive him to drink
< 1372583643 734877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1372583646 725016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[drinkz joke]
< 1372583658 234719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats ok i already drink all the time
< 1372583676 314843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this particular moment it is i who have reduced myself to drugz
< 1372583679 686009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinkz <: drugz
< 1372583687 497363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're off the hook for that
< 1372583693 376771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many drugz did you drugz
< 1372583706 876215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in quantity or in number of different kinds
< 1372583731 208012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1372583794 613849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm drugz but only metaphorically
< 1372583815 492820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody told me that all things are composed of drugs, math, and cardboard in varying ratio
< 1372583817 168623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed points are drugz
< 1372583820 232191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed pointz
< 1372583920 5095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: driving someone to drink is good
< 1372583925 416293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1372583932 430478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise they might drink and drive
< 1372584611 521398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a new series of PSAs on avoiding drinking and driving going on on a local TV station, they're very cute.
< 1372584634 931710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a drinking bird and a drinking fish.
< 1372584647 205676 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should I stop making kmc drugz jokes
< 1372584856 986662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if kmc minds all these tasteless kmc drugz jokes i'll stop making them too
< 1372585054 379541 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372585230 809990 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't promise I'll stop making them but I might be able to install some kind of weekly quota
< 1372585242 304085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi mnoqy
< 1372585247 543580 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1372585259 577881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i refrain from bugging you about fixed points like i've been bugging everyone else
< 1372585268 890432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw fixed points are p. great
< 1372585270 570946 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm most likely
< 1372585290 857279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok
< 1372586490 920211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: look how great we are re: faq
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< 1372594600 568185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What is your fixed point?
< 1372594657 613453 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let shachaf = \x -> (fix x shachaf,shachaf) in fix shachaf
< 1372594658 534821 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type:
< 1372594658 555808 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :   t2 = ((t2 -> t0) -> t2...
< 1372594667 525645 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let shachaf = \x -> (shachaf x,shachaf) in fix shachaf
< 1372594668 402839 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: t1 = (t1, t2)Occurs check...
< 1372594893 219663 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let shachaf = fix in fix shachaf
< 1372594894 166104 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = a0 -> a0
< 1372594894 186882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected t...
< 1372594902 779433 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let shachaf = fix shachaf in fix shachaf
< 1372594903 591619 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a0 = a0 -> a0
< 1372594907 643072 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok
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< 1372602690 744210 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the sequence of the even naturals computable by a push down automaton
< 1372602926 810271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does a push down automaton compute naturals?
< 1372602963 600608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan
< 1372602967 734023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf 
< 1372602976 355753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :any clues on fixed points
< 1372602978 1078 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a question
< 1372603002 58535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: even a finite automaton can _recognize_ them, after all.
< 1372603035 497991 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some form of printy dealy?
< 1372603092 18705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect they cannot, if printing a number means you have to look deep in the stack
< 1372603109 140266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that obviously erases most of it
< 1372603186 723026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm does a pumping lemma apply to output as well?
< 1372603250 301282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be a pumpout lemma
< 1372603265 32686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: only that Knaster-Tarski was missing the Fixed-point theorem category. which i've now fixed.
< 1372603286 660982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok i guess i have learned some fixed-point theorems in my time.)
< 1372603307 463305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: plz add redirect knaster-tarski ----> Knaster–Tarski theorem
< 1372603318 569450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just went to that page and it didn't exist
< 1372603331 987380 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx hth wwod
< 1372603341 809141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um surely you'd get a direct suggestion. i think that's overdoing it.
< 1372603356 187259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1372603370 689668 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen the redirect pages wikipedia has
< 1372603428 347407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well it shows up if you _search_ for knaster-tarski, anyhow.
< 1372603461 177188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway read http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/fixed+point instead
< 1372603476 529375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. good as nlab pages go
< 1372603700 227014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too tired
< 1372603712 777403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks he may have a cold

< 1372603837 521906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what does the pumping lemma correspond to directly on pd automata.
< 1372603886 425286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think a pd automaton with only output is sort of equivalent to a pd automaton that accepts only one input...
< 1372603901 779360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, if deterministic.)
< 1372603982 406472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case the accepted input is infinite, but i doubt that makes much of a difference?
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< 1372604127 354521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think that's equivalent to asking if the language of strings of the form "2,4,...,2n" (with your chosen output representation) is context-free.
< 1372604189 479613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure the pumping lemma disallows that.
< 1372604242 707315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact you don't even need to restrict it to _even_ naturals, it cannot produce the naturals themselves.
< 1372604942 246080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Now, a logic with the axiom "not P" for all formulas P would definitely be inconsistent. <-- hm is intuitionistic logic inconsistent with that?
< 1372605021 652605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you cannot deduce P from not (not P), then it's no longer _obvious_ that you can get an inconsistency from that...
< 1372605025 71349 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372605065 430259 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a : not (not P) and b : not P, then a b : False.
< 1372605099 641512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right duh
< 1372605134 735708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to disallow False -> P somehow.
< 1372605260 594676 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disallow ex falso quodlibet?
< 1372605277 733047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1372605324 93878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what paraconsistent logics do, or maybe they just don't allow you to deduce false
< 1372605344 386559 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think both are options.
< 1372605361 274920 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think it's more common for (P and not P) not to imply False.
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< 1372605394 794454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372605444 11637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you wanted to keep the intuitionistic definition of not P = P -> False, the other option would seem better
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< 1372606267 764307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit my electric razor short circuited
< 1372606656 534647 :longsight!~kingman@149.254.180.34 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1372607814 122471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote  I would like to learn how to use a sword   And also how to ride a unicycle   Perhaps not at the same time
< 1372607821 555671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1372607824 840729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1372607827 401946 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1372607831 588936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1372607838 872526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION confuses himself

< 1372607841 88028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1065)  I would like to learn how to use a sword   And also how to ride a unicycle   Perhaps not at the same time
< 1372607844 41391 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1372607854 923490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1065
< 1372607856 349231 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1372607861 833706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1372607864 701342 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1372607867 3768 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, how hard is it to use a sword...
< 1372607874 234263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wtf did i actually revert
< 1372607877 423215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1065
< 1372607877 525754 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, not hard
< 1372607878 788262 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1065)  I would like to learn how to use a sword   And also how to ride a unicycle   Perhaps not at the same time
< 1372607881 109194 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But well?
< 1372607889 79073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1372607889 240507 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
< 1372607893 505769 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is another matter entirely
< 1372608028 490715 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo
< 1372608030 417970 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing.
< 1372608073 332566 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-33-125.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone ever called it HackBot
< 1372608137 103308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor hth
< 1372608215 179390 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1372608247 150935 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1372609473 531159 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd|afk
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< 1372611884 554378 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1372612294 427255 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl PART :#esoteric
< 1372612555 6897 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer's power button is broken
< 1372612655 956731 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-40-4.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds
< 1372612676 591329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically electronics are collapsing all over the globe hth
< 1372613465 853815 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :^[
< 1372613514 917210 :^[!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
< 1372613607 504405 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :[\]
< 1372613619 89490 :[\]!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti
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< 1372613867 34498 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-46.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372613990 30564 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-52-42.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372614190 50150 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-46.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1372614507 961303 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372615009 30504 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-52-42.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
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< 1372615481 624826 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to force myself to give myself over to Feedly
< 1372615554 626129 :longsight!~kingman@31.109.186.159 PART :#esoteric
< 1372615571 582204 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a sex thing
< 1372615575 691209 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be honest
< 1372615852 899798 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out
< 1372615965 17008 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372615982 229142 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so power button _sometimes_ works
< 1372615990 296270 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on how I jiggle it I think
< 1372616016 462409 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, my computer is that physically broken that the power button is somewhat mobile
< 1372616485 525484 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: buttons usually move when you press them
< 1372617143 616193 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any technical reason it wouldn't be possible to waterproof a USB port?
< 1372617271 569624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's because most usb peripherals aren't waterproof, so there wouldn't be much of a point
< 1372617307 616900 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There would still be a point though: More room for user error, so if the USB cover is accidentally left open, it's not a big deal
< 1372617480 111547 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372617682 296712 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what do you... what does that even
< 1372617706 219772 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, just enclose it in a watertight housing
< 1372617707 146898 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about the power button or waterproof USB ports?
< 1372617730 9904 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the "what does that ever"
< 1372617732 994663 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even
< 1372617733 928921 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit
< 1372617751 788471 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd be a probably-needless expense
< 1372618039 481119 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1372618412 714521 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
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< 1372619143 957764 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : so I'm watching this espionnage show and they're always like "rendez-vous at the swimming-pool, this way I'll be sure you're not carrying a listening device"
< 1372619169 258354 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting for any one of them to realize they could just enclose it in a plastic bag and tadaaaaa water-proof
< 1372619172 38215 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of the simpsons
< 1372619207 717923 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be water-proof, but is it anal-proof?
< 1372619216 968455 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even
< 1372619246 79974 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe the main idea is that you don't wear much clothes at the pool
< 1372619255 795179 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a hard time hiding equipment
< 1372619262 435154 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, well... inside yourself
< 1372619271 189600 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1372619272 426851 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-175-110.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372619277 746144 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal swimming trunks have plenty of space to hide a bug
< 1372619304 732257 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he explained it several time as "even if you managed to hide a device in your bathing suit, the water would shortcircuit it"
< 1372619338 563750 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and although the camera keep wandering around all the women in bikini, the men are wearing large swimming trunks as alsner said
< 1372619341 837861 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner sorry*
< 1372619354 390353 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another question is: if it is water-proof, will it still work?
< 1372619360 88100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, would a waterproof bug pick up the above-water sound properly?
< 1372619375 594278 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you still record stuff inside a water-proof bag?
< 1372619383 628074 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it doesn't have to stay underwater it just has to resist getting wet
< 1372619424 842240 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah if it's a thin layer of plastic you should be alright
< 1372619461 6750 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a condom works pretty well..no joke
< 1372619478 939647 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be a spy
< 1372619482 1710 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :used that on a mike under water
< 1372619488 185394 :hagb4rd|afk!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd
< 1372619490 529258 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're already a spy!
< 1372619504 624632 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spypig M
< 1372619508 913909 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oinki oink
< 1372619539 104448 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw what the heck are ya talking about5
< 1372619557 254241 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugs in swimming pools
< 1372619562 428087 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is taneb still not james bondß
< 1372619569 301297 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw
< 1372619570 597448 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1372619636 260144 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd: do condoms work with usb ports?
< 1372619647 23378 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit i was just typing that
< 1372619656 572269 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-)
< 1372619667 384725 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's worth a try
< 1372619709 84290 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you fuck a usb port?
< 1372619785 675728 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it can't be THAT small, can it?
< 1372619801 196595 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tight usb port
< 1372619811 231252 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fresh and nasty usb
< 1372619818 431737 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yummy
< 1372619852 603405 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stupid
< 1372619873 738617 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's talk about sth else
< 1372619881 59565 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric languages or sth
< 1372619906 553649 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your favourite esolang sgeo?
< 1372619977 119084 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or koen or myname or whoever reads this
< 1372619993 461921 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is still befunge
< 1372620012 988525 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to pick a favourite esolang?!
< 1372620017 524917 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :u can
< 1372620017 667664 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody warned me
< 1372620021 672848 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a favorite esolang. I do have a favorite esolang-related project: PSOX.
< 1372620035 868899 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: PSOX not necessarily actually favorite esolang-related project)
< 1372620035 916629 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this?
< 1372620044 656593 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I like those which are very original, like /// or Thue
< 1372620056 634141 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well "string-replacement" is more accurate than "original"
< 1372620066 69379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the graph one... is that eodermdrome?
< 1372620079 410424 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that
< 1372620081 978763 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably like eoderdrome if I had ever took time to understand it
< 1372620111 512668 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google site:esoolang.org PSOX
< 1372620112 87444 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found.
< 1372620119 208260 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google site:esolang.org PSOX
< 1372620119 774304 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found.
< 1372620124 938963 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck u lambda
< 1372620125 736327 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs
< 1372620128 372869 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google site:esolangs.org PSOX
< 1372620128 871164 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX
< 1372620128 976911 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: PSOX - Esolang
< 1372620135 474948 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
< 1372620136 873676 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :string rewriting is nice because you can find it in the wild so often
< 1372620164 927367 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do I have a picture of sunflowers in my head
< 1372620202 963199 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: is that a joke or do you have examples?
< 1372620250 916590 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. sed (though it's quite overtly doing string rewriting, so I'm not sure it counts), mod_rewrite, sendmail
< 1372620333 608075 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no sunflowers eh
< 1372620342 719628 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and I don't have the same definition of the wild
< 1372620372 103431 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, wild animals hardly ever use sendmail, in favor of SMS
< 1372620410 863978 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoken poetry
< 1372620455 993647 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that kind of wild I guess you see cellular automata more (which might actually be the same thing if you think about it right)
< 1372620508 117700 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the name of the esolang which interpretes midi files again
< 1372620515 101252 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flute
< 1372620515 926857 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1372620524 753919 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are at list two
< 1372620529 636297 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow
< 1372620531 214622 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well?
< 1372620533 533728 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are at least two
< 1372620542 293900 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :..
< 1372620548 896187 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1372620563 651984 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are they named?
< 1372620566 423698 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could make a list with two items
< 1372620577 326757 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're not talking to me
< 1372620582 281076 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fugue was one
< 1372620583 801735 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prelude and fugue
< 1372620587 63826 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fugue!
< 1372620589 227858 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1372620594 973219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you know, the musical form.
< 1372620599 670802 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is quite embarrassing
< 1372620609 507148 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, i forgot
< 1372620616 484098 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that word
< 1372620631 575439 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?search=music
< 1372620638 406621 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Choon produces music as output
< 1372620697 913853 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it really sounds not bad
< 1372620827 735052 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked up embarrassing and its totally not the expected meaning.. wow
< 1372620835 818109 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm i mean it's awesome
< 1372620839 912249 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's have awesome
< 1372620860 939534 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plain old awesome languagew
< 1372621437 991047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A text adventure game on a thirty-column display seems to be limited.
< 1372621526 253729 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what display has 30 columns?
< 1372621547 435197 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a phone?
< 1372621570 72024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take overscan into account so that the leftmost and rightmost columns are not used, then the Famicom will have only thirty columns available.
< 1372621675 614551 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo is programming his washing-machine again
< 1372621770 676927 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a chinese text adventure.. they don't neeed much space, also they often write top-down (vertical)?
< 1372621773 925743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a font is used which is good in all uppercase, that can simplify the text decoding.
< 1372621834 702798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it isn't a Chinese text adventure.
< 1372621841 30130 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay..
< 1372621913 921089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't really think Chinese (or any other language that cannot be written with ZSCII) is really suitable for text adventure games, as far as I can tell.)
< 1372621937 545649 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry, i somehow missed the kickoff infos
< 1372621947 993386 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zscii is the universal standard of gaming, after all
< 1372621949 535154 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go agead
< 1372621956 949793 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shuts up

< 1372621992 957230 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372622009 107755 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google zscii
< 1372622011 39356 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://inform-fiction.org/zmachine/standards/z1point0/sect03.html
< 1372622011 60570 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: The Z-Machine Standards Document
< 1372622024 807540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No, not really; this has nothing to do with ZSCII in particular, I just mean that they are what is available in the ZSCII character set, not that it necessarily has to do anything with ZSCII.
< 1372622256 484823 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( is my Esc key seriously broken? ugh
< 1372622342 285596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I know?
< 1372622369 148712 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-194-156.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, I went into your home and broke it
< 1372622375 719930 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that your phone again sgeo?
< 1372622402 605426 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise remap to ..erm..caps lock ..or scrolllock
< 1372622423 957051 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get a washable keyboard
< 1372622632 485164 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db431f0.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i promised myself to buy a washable one next time
< 1372622701 864364 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu
< 1372622796 48883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost got "Aimfiz" Z-machine interpreter working, except text styles.
< 1372622798 953533 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38
< 1372623202 471863 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hagb4rd, no, the laptop I'm using now
< 1372623889 551807 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist
< 1372623891 895471 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1372624031 178460 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372624217 934023 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1372624402 415437 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf http://www.wekkars.com/
< 1372624539 763677 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant
< 1372624541 717021 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-58-104.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha.
< 1372624666 970143 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372626195 943242 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1372626907 754166 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372627055 34956 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1372629798 271457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: does stuff matter?
< 1372630019 13131 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372630023 792291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please apply your frying pan to yourself
< 1372630113 619305 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you don't have a frying pan handy, here's one you can use: ⊸
< 1372630121 555666 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it's very small.
< 1372630219 575863 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre
< 1372630346 195429 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.137.227 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1372630585 952625 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.94.217 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1372631060 874858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay ⊸
< 1372631071 501124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it look like a square tdnh