< 1372896237 288981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : so yeah. who has moved lately? <-- i have moved about 4 km southeast hth < 1372896249 962823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you still in trondheim < 1372896458 433905 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1372896491 468067 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372896581 877806 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poll: How long ago is "ancient" < 1372896594 341709 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday < 1372896605 679032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :before the 1990s < 1372896667 664540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :July 6, 1189 < 1372896743 849910 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long enough ago that I don't remember it < 1372896866 508690 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1372896934 615767 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372896939 131148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i believe i'm still within city limits, yes < 1372896958 527074 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that poll sucked. < 1372896987 640735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can I have directions for when I visit < 1372897255 783605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://goo.gl/maps/SMmWk hth < 1372897299 714425 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a map of a crop? < 1372897312 709770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1372897632 200391 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1372897762 617074 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1372897976 918595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: it's a cropped map of a crop hth < 1372898010 568486 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you live next to the beach though < 1372898013 536513 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds cool < 1372898052 416009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid much of that beach is also changing into apartments hth < 1372898085 507786 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess it's a good news for the people who are gonna move into those appartments < 1372898118 841706 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoug according to that map, if you have just moved 4km southeast... you used to live in the sea? < 1372898155 910519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well _approximately_ southeast. < 1372898159 913531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always knew oerjan was a mermaid < 1372898171 512691 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was just something fishy about him this whole time. < 1372898280 481811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goo.gl/maps/2Whbx < 1372898316 374667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't I get at least a swat for that pun? < 1372898348 541673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap elliott < 1372898348 876643 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loves elliott , so no slapping < 1372898350 923636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, oerjan lives on the roof. < 1372898352 652848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1372898391 570139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lived < 1372898397 478035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@slap elliott < 1372898397 682740 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws some pointy lambdas at elliott < 1372898432 223555 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiba are just so cute. http://i.imgur.com/VKT21lx.png < 1372898482 453202 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how am I not nice? < 1372898517 592108 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1372898521 740992 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say you were not nice. < 1372898529 492886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure. < 1372898552 349291 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrmpf < 1372898556 266562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : aren't any coordinates approximate? like how many sigfigs are necessary to no longer be approximate <-- the exact point has to be inside your body hth < 1372898641 399213 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want any points inside of my body < 1372898698 107135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok copumpkin, I still like you. < 1372898704 56458 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1372898714 233390 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs elliott and gives shachaf a dirty look while doing so < 1372898729 557865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if GPS is accurate enough for that. < 1372898733 401686 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because you like copumpkin doesn't mean you have to like CT, btw < 1372898747 804678 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :which CT are we talking about here? < 1372898771 429075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: See? < 1372898780 290526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dirty looks. < 1372898786 900862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the kind of think I'm talking about. < 1372898789 106965 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives shachaf a dirtier look < 1372898791 254724 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 'Connecticut' would be less offensive than 'category theory' in this context < 1372898799 136182 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1372898804 189393 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives shachaf THE DIRTIEST LOOK < 1372898809 357539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1372898810 810171 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :offending several million people vs. possibly hundreds < 1372898812 402034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's p. dirty < 1372898812 856740 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO DIRTY YOU'LL NEED A SHOWER < 1372898894 648353 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372898905 724440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just showered < 1372898913 356931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks a lot < 1372898914 113508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it any different from a copumpkin hug then? <--- burn & zing & snap < 1372898923 741646 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1372898960 268522 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs elliott just to hug elliott  < 1372898982 875075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1372898989 38690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is discriminating against me < 1372899016 315413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the conspiracy < 1372899027 227630 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs shachaf too, okay? :< < 1372899052 226874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow a forced hug < 1372899056 394419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that even mean anything < 1372899066 844337 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION force hugs shachaf  < 1372899067 49114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can feel the reluctance :'( < 1372899074 125643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1372899091 909316 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone read Gunnerkrigg? < 1372899098 133324 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that Hetty huh < 1372899112 776807 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry ._. I just won't do anything next time... < 1372899124 482658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: You were fine! It was a joke. < 1372899137 693313 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1372899162 304697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Fiora < 1372899162 509367 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1372899173 103115 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone read `olist? < 1372899176 487219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that vaarsuvius huh < 1372899204 499832 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1372899239 297435 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as such < 1372899278 997562 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372899311 545027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :history's worst mass-murderer < 1372899386 24835 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hetty sure is a character. < 1372899392 15839 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh for sure, Bike < 1372899402 110269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you write ^-1 in Unicode? < 1372899425 425319 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you rely on word processors < 1372899433 181310 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that know about Unicode < 1372899469 39107 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :⁻¹ not good enough for you huh < 1372899472 770360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fix your connection < 1372899485 617504 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't < 1372899523 689132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm try harder < 1372899542 971162 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372899543 216968 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1372899543 217131 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1372899713 89470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so have you convinced them to make the rust syntax less ugly yet..... < 1372899781 512730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust syntax isn't so bad < 1372899785 938230 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1372899815 209250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1372899879 187186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have bested me < 1372900034 707979 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1372900306 345937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i haven't < 1372900312 763818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone was arguing a lot about semicolons today in #rust < 1372900697 785710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it bad < 1372900752 153485 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about lexical syntax of comments < 1372900840 665874 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1372900908 917393 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This may seem like a sneaky attempt to trick developers, but this behavior is actually specified in HTML5[2]. The navigator.product property must be Gecko and navigator.appName should be either Netscape or something more specific. Strange recommendations, but Internet Explorer 11 follows them." < 1372900961 291435 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that's wrong < 1372900963 96229 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Must return either the string "Netscape" or the full name of the browser, e.g. "Mellblom Browsernator". < 1372900963 300883 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1372901139 63734 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14573881/why-the-javascript-navigator-appname-returns-netscape-for-safari-firefox-and-ch < 1372901189 545479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so has anyone created a Mellblom Browsernator yet < 1372901717 982091 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372901781 706753 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does anyone know how to make kernel modules stop being terrible. or at least how i can get their versions to learn that my version is actually a DLL from 1997. < 1372901864 14656 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im pretty sure thats just that dang ol eternal mystery again < 1372901883 680592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the mystery < 1372901903 375380 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1372901933 475232 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disable all kernel modules < 1372901942 186827 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1372901966 31924 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what I pasted wasn't wrong, I just misread < 1372901986 930480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill all humans < 1372902025 781247 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How do I turn this human back on again?" < 1372902032 674166 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :modprobe soul < 1372902034 245158 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can't, Android Friend. You killed him." < 1372902036 718842 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" < 1372902048 990453 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :later Android Friend acquires a taste for blood etc. < 1372902054 710231 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many Academy Awards are won < 1372902780 378500 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1372902802 657723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this about dlls < 1372902821 59847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, one interesting thing is that /*! foo bar */ is sugar for #[doc("foo bar")] or so < 1372902861 468939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is an example of an attribute < 1372902902 539041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :attributes seem cool to me, I guess they are really no different from __attribute__((foo)) or {-# FOO #-} but the syntax is less hackish, being designed in from the beginning < 1372902911 241372 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have a standard sort of key-value syntax < 1372903114 243537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, {-# #-} is "designed in" < 1372903137 100176 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe not entirely so, since it's clearly made to be compatible with comments < 1372903138 269114 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, where's this gathering thing < 1372903144 369338 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when < 1372903147 986052 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and any details at all < 1372903171 784958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :san francisco, tomorrow, evening-ish? < 1372903185 93704 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where in san francisco < 1372903189 261442 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when evening-ish < 1372903215 663592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might go to sf earlier in the day < 1372903222 997408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1372903224 616190 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via Caltrain? < 1372903225 826313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's not in haskell 98!!! < 1372903233 218974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's in 2010, at least < 1372903238 433893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1372903244 328063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 98 too < 1372903244 759562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/pragmas.html < 1372903247 184729 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I expect I will be joining you, probably < 1372903249 991323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1372903252 542302 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would work best < 1372903268 25875 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish they'd introduce a one-line --# FOO syntax < 1372903286 917816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: sgtm < 1372903299 307329 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (--#) = (+) in 2 --# 4 < 1372903300 247745 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1372903308 991109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will probably meet somewhere in the Mission or SoMa < 1372903312 925998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i know \"i know\"" < 1372903313 412936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live at 26th and Bryant < 1372903325 411253 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many acronyms < 1372903325 616024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we might be watching fireworks from mozilla office at 2 Harrison < 1372903331 202074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but likely not? < 1372903335 958809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway shachaf has my phone number < 1372903347 278066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kmc has mine < 1372903349 299870 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, mozilla will be overful of people already? < 1372903350 524275 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still coming < 1372903363 863047 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not free as in free-fireworks-viewing? < 1372903364 334262 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I do not have kmc's phone number < 1372903365 652300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: they're doing a lottery to see who can go < 1372903374 70845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have not sent out results yet < 1372903381 826770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lottery? < 1372903390 545819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a small office that lots of people want to go to or something? < 1372903400 394689 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about first-come-first-serve, get there 2 hours early. that will be fun. < 1372903437 29065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mozilla fireworx, the new web browser written in rust < 1372903456 451661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's a pretty large office but they say it's unsafe to have more than 100 people on the roof deck < 1372903464 348958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1372903533 380869 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help shake the feeling that this some elaborate hazing ritual on kmc < 1372903550 631001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1372903560 271410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the ol' roof deck fireworks lottery" < 1372903796 781223 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope Mozilla employees and friends of Mozilla employees don't do anything dumb like have illicit substances < 1372903802 443813 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would not be a fun party, in that case < 1372903821 119108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand < 1372903837 398998 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, oh, or SF police just might not care, too. < 1372903839 578959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you seriously going to be upset if people are smoking weed around you < 1372903842 410826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1372903854 344277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SF police could not possibly give less of a shit about people smoking weed < 1372903859 36221 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not that upset relatively speaking < 1372903877 32664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :being upset about not liking the smell of smoke or something is reasonable < 1372903892 28410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a somewhat difficult smell to avoid in sf :'( < 1372903897 584246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is polite of people to smoke outdoors / otherwise away from people who mind < 1372903908 983319 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you want good examples of being not observing proper drug-smoking etiquette, just go to a music festival < 1372903910 638503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're very much against weed-smoking in general then, uh, you probably won't have a good time hanging out with me and my friends < 1372903950 683329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i was in Weed, CA once < 1372903958 68965 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you smoke weed 24/7 :o < 1372903961 596729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm against smoking weeds because you're not meant to just smoke random weeds from your garden......... try some drugs instead < 1372903999 346642 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think smoking weeds, is cruel, to the weeds < 1372904010 793869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are drugs like drugz? < 1372904018 454900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, completely different < 1372904051 872410 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need an PSA t-shirt saying "I'm high on Haskell" < 1372904063 24524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :im hi on hi < 1372904064 151661 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very effective on youngsters < 1372904064 642598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :- mnoqy < 1372904071 104731 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so my july 4th looks like this < 1372904072 563715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: no, but on a holiday that is largely about looking at pretty explosions, it is safe to assume some weed will be smoked < 1372904077 929606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trondheim -> san francisco -> ??? < 1372904082 312107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe sf comes before trondheim < 1372904090 554899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else want me to visit < 1372904103 38549 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we having our antarctica trip < 1372904114 499732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why trondheim < 1372904125 472744 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oerjan < 1372904129 139457 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372904153 794771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's oerjan's approximate body weigh < 1372904205 33525 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how close would you say you are to san francisco < 1372904230 600197 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1372904239 246251 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me see if i can "pull a Fiora" for you < 1372904275 389783 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a fiora and how do you pull it < 1372904348 403265 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i don't know < 1372904364 441404 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google says a drive would take ten hours, 38 minutes < 1372904372 440715 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ten hours, 41 minutes in present traffic, thanks < 1372904375 813731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds right < 1372904377 239587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but what if I have wings. < 1372904379 916902 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1372904383 355708 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.94.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1372904385 522877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be about 16 hours from where i lived in washington < 1372904397 691216 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how far in miles < 1372904398 471015 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how fast do you fly exactly < 1372904402 61223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe 24 hours if you stop to sleep et c < 1372904402 266263 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you offering to like carry me < 1372904410 960441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1372904411 402828 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: 670 < 1372904414 777600 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1372904420 258158 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far are you from new york < 1372904421 462956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats how much i love you Bike < 1372904427 205200 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1372904429 266870 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty far imo < 1372904430 246584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: way farther < 1372904438 546742 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you trying to like triangulate me < 1372904443 291840 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1372904449 688566 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd need 3 points for a triangulation < 1372904455 921220 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well it's 44 hours. < 1372904460 867565 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, in current traffic, 44 hours. < 1372904469 12645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lotta hours < 1372904477 888088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think disatnces that long even exist < 1372904489 32322 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :british people, am i right < 1372904489 689190 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm planning to just use two and discard the one that's in the sea < 1372904501 504574 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just like, ask < 1372904507 570527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Bike < 1372904512 467343 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1372904518 23497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, HackEgo is fixed < 1372904520 407026 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :says where i'm from not where i am! < 1372904523 368444 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey HackEgo is fixed. < 1372904525 198712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Gregor < 1372904528 441521 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess san francisco got my note. < 1372904534 12471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i drove from portland to california once :'( < 1372904545 508697 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Hmm, is an Electronic Signature in a PDF file a thing? How do they work? [1] Yes. [2] It doesn't. < 1372904548 44020 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did that too, imo it sucked. < 1372904549 847536 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1066) Hmm, is an Electronic Signature in a PDF file a thing? How do they work? [1] Yes. [2] It doesn't. < 1372904553 667228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover gets to readd his quote himself < 1372904562 815682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who gets to writee it < 1372904581 127314 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Take the Interstate 84 E exit toward Ogden/Salt Lake, 589 mi" these directions are great < 1372904593 62438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok the plan is for Gracenotes and me to take the train to sf tomorrow and then meet y'all somewhere in soma/mission < 1372904601 17675 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep left at the fork, follow signs for I-80 E/Cheyenne and merge onto I-80 E < 1372904602 941385 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 1008 miles < 1372904619 664933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1008 miles :'( < 1372904625 77943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad mile amount < 1372904629 87589 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it's recommending toll roads < 1372904630 683769 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :f u google < 1372904632 18482 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that like < 1372904638 723277 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the earth's radius < 1372904639 339077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there's an option for no tolls < 1372904640 648163 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or most of it < 1372904642 162488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many walses is 1008 miles < 1372904663 848744 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the radius of the earth is apparently 3,959 miles < 1372904664 406833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 1008 miles in walses < 1372904667 413349 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.distancebetweencities.net/wales_me_and_west-van-lear_ky/ < 1372904667 617793 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Distance between Wales, ME and West Van Lear, KY 1008 Miles / 1622 Km < 1372904699 357716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2*pi*3959 < 1372904700 545523 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24875.130631123982 < 1372904722 10272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: imo you should come visit < 1372904722 282431 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how wide is wales < 1372904738 702545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: use the copumpkin method of travel < 1372904745 517002 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already said i'm visiting tomorrow < 1372904746 609866 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1372904747 838359 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is... there a city called wales < 1372904759 314119 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: everything in the US is named after something in the isles, yes < 1372904771 481464 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway this map makes it look like wales is about the size of massachusetts < 1372904772 782534 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`the isles' < 1372904774 44397 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: the: not found < 1372904781 632969 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, 1008 miles is like..................... i'm gonna say a hundred waleses at least. < 1372904827 909775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is wales 10 miles < 1372904834 371952 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, misread as walrus < 1372904834 827448 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think so < 1372904849 324372 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 8 settlements named wales in the us < 1372904906 894243 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh " It is about 274 km (170 mi) north–south and 97 km (60 mi) east–west" < 1372904908 469028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine leaving wales and being like < 1372904910 555929 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez i miss that place < 1372904920 345425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's name this place that is definitely far better than wales, after wales < 1372904920 549959 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1008/97 < 1372904921 329321 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10.391752577319588 < 1372904925 148433 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that was dumb < 1372904928 465447 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1008/60 < 1372904929 399628 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16.8 < 1372904930 510562 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1372904935 387551 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exacty 16.8 waleses < 1372904943 220078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of wales < 1372904991 178641 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space wales. Falling toward the planet over which they happened to come into existence. < 1372905020 24971 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you hate wales more than scotland < 1372905031 217285 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@75-163-30-54.dlth.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372905037 993959 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: can there not be two incomparably great evils in the world < 1372905045 238229 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you hate scotland < 1372905047 353632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sgtm < 1372905052 839152 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We could not calculate directions between Moscow, Russia and Anadyr, Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, Russia." google maps disappoints me < 1372905078 455335 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We could not calculate directions between Moscow, Russia and Beijing, China." oh come on! there's a train < 1372905078 696778 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, because you're from england < 1372905085 269541 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus can only take self-hatred so far < 1372905108 991160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can you ask it whether there's a ferry from newcastle to uh what was it, bergen < 1372905109 599871 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, sadly they have fixed the bug where ferries are considered zero distance for foot directions < 1372905109 970966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so you should call me or something when you know concrete plans, probably < 1372905112 783263 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Maps should make a Soviet Russia joke when it can’t figure out a route in Russia. < 1372905126 121450 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway /me vanishes for a bit < 1372905147 259895 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which meant that if you asked for directions between any two sufficiently distant points in the british mainland it would take you across the irish sea at least twice < 1372905147 464511 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just send a global notice on all of freenode < 1372905157 653081 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: awesome < 1372905163 307439 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we barely knew ya, shachaf < 1372905176 64094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i loved that < 1372905194 99568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sounds good < 1372905194 824899 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once asked for directions from john o'groats to land's end < 1372905200 98229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about you call/text me when you arrive in sf < 1372905206 767259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can reply with my coördinates < 1372905221 908391 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it actually can give you directions from moscow to birobidzhan < 1372905231 970560 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. 2 + 3 = 1 * 5 and 2 * 3 = 1 + 5. < 1372905239 101263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the route went through all 4 UK countries, the republic, the isle of man, and france < 1372905240 957754 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure I just discovered the greatest mathematical theorem ever. < 1372905244 714436 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the instructions consist of "take this highway for 99 hours" but still < 1372905281 573690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: come on how do I get to norway < 1372905297 342850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you're thinking well why would you want to but some of our less fortunate friends live there < 1372905326 571796 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ok i'm done wrestling with russia let me see < 1372905346 844894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: O, you found out things like that. I don't think it is "the greatest mathematical theorem ever"; it is just something you notice. Others notice other things too, not only in mathematics. A while ago I noticed that the initial letters of the first four astrological signs are the same as the initial letters of DNA. < 1372905350 64611 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :first let me see if it can do newcastle to Birobidzhan < 1372905352 995867 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god, it can. < 1372905353 200762 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: just find distinct factors of numbers with identical sums hth < 1372905372 217041 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :7125 miles, 132 hours of driving < 1372905385 433605 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :..or the other way around < 1372905396 871443 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so: you mean bergen norway right < 1372905405 703794 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer is, it has you drive. < 1372905447 811987 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hpmordate < 1372905448 774978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hpmordate: not found < 1372905450 616111 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1372905462 8160 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :through the chunnel, and then a ferry (!!!!!) from larvik to hirtshals. < 1372905497 311717 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i mean trondheim norway < 1372905502 459658 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1372905504 254764 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bergen is just where the ferry used to go < 1372905517 418911 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah basically the same < 1372905521 505240 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you go norther < 1372905528 798807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but i don't have a car. < 1372905536 797881 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this takes 29 hours < 1372905543 81124 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, probably should leave like yesterday? < 1372905585 494077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok, Fiora has the time travel thing sorted out. < 1372905598 357944 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously, this thing can give you driving directions from hexham to Birobidzhan, that is cool as hell imo. < 1372905619 463310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's impressive that there is even a way to get to not-hexham from hexham < 1372905636 409958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant get there from here, as they say < 1372905676 657956 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit yes it does hexham to thailand < 1372905691 388297 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route has tolls. This route includes a car transport." < 1372905707 404149 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you have to drive through iran. < 1372905711 677546 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and burma. < 1372905713 21987 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good route < 1372905736 444325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pic pls < 1372905757 237051 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pass by Zubair Traders and Electronics (on the left in 0.3 mi)" this is the best shit < 1372905764 290761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had idea of some programming language for Magic: the Gathering cards. One feature is that the printout is different than the input; for example, replacing ~ with the card's name, displaying mana symbols, making reminder text italic, and changing around some of the special programming symbols into printout format (including hiding things if necessary). < 1372905788 206853 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://goo.gl/maps/lKISo < 1372905805 124021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm that's not a picture < 1372905807 223880 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott's Journey < 1372905835 946625 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like how it talks about like individual roundabouts < 1372905843 467275 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's great < 1372905853 330040 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will pass so-and-so petrol station, in waziristan < 1372905855 920417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, "Draw =3 cards." means the same as "Draw 3 cards." but prints as "Draw three cards." < 1372905871 270472 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Driving directions to Cape Town, South Africa. This route crosses through multiple countries." < 1372905879 500900 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i christen this route "imperialism" < 1372905881 321961 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :57. Continue onto E-75 < 1372905882 567558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pass by ГРАДСКО САОБРАЋАЈНО ПРЕДУЗЕЋЕ "БЕОГРАД" - САОБРАЋАЈНИ ПОГОН КОСМАЈ (on the right in 3.8 mi) < 1372905904 520416 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kazakhstan? < 1372905909 431635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"82. Slight right" jesus < 1372905918 312010 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yes has you driving through dr congo < 1372905941 692540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you realise i have to travel this route sometime in my life now right < 1372905953 924214 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need to go to bangkok < 1372905960 626647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plurals of subtypes can be indicated by "=s" such as "Destroy all Wall=s." < 1372905971 172084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other ideas do you have about things like this? < 1372905986 545540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comments are in parentheses. < 1372906019 965949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other punctuation has other purposes. < 1372906028 962363 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would take you 100 days to walk without stopping < 1372906029 167490 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus you can plot to /jakarta/ < 1372906063 13042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pass by CENTRAL BANK OF INDIA < 1372906067 977055 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much just trying to get the longest routes possible atm < 1372906077 993569 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one's 249 hours, 10,289 mi < 1372906099 572940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i froze my browser < 1372906103 322796 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you walked for 6.6 hours a day, it would take you a full year < 1372906112 821089 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there's a ferry from singapore to indonesia. why did i not think of that. < 1372906144 352355 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1372906173 19627 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so a markup language? < 1372906191 920421 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, plus programming parts... < 1372906195 842897 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if wanted < 1372906211 641680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: We could not calculate directions between Hexham, Northumberland, UK and Antarctica. < 1372906245 142430 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it can do hexham to dili though. < 1372906276 294538 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :340 hour drive < 1372906296 181803 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is dili. < 1372906312 543131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: 2 + 2 = 2 * 2 hth < 1372906315 870823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could not calculate directions between Hexham, Northumberland, UK and Tokyo, Japan. < 1372906318 886163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing is useless < 1372906341 546189 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric := 2 ^ 2 < 1372906370 81005 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hexham to serbia = success < 1372906375 516226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 25 hours though. < 1372906379 452336 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1372906380 958638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1372906384 340855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :serbia isn't where i was thinking of < 1372906390 308532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god I've forgotten what it's called < 1372906398 504533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1372906403 475118 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :help me Bike < 1372906413 779273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Yes, kind of like that; I meant that it has markup used to reformat for printing, although the computer can also execute it as a program. < 1372906464 422406 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did hexham get significant here? < 1372906475 183186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the question nobody can answer, Gracenotes < 1372906480 686150 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is this to do simulation-y stuff? < 1372906493 161215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: What is "simulation-y stuff"? < 1372906497 84796 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the standard libraries ofsuch a language might encode the rules of Magic < 1372906498 855867 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ok seriously, what's the place that's like russia but worse called. < 1372906511 699551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is literally the best description I have. < 1372906517 216992 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: like, statistical analysis of various decks < 1372906583 629701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Yes, that is what I mean; the standard libraries include rules of Magic. But I don't really mean statistical analysis (you can still do that, but you don't need to parse the card text as a program to do so); I mean to implement the game in computer. < 1372906833 103090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would have further syntax for specifying that something is a card name, and so on. < 1372907038 841218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There could be a syntax <|> where the text before | is a program and after | is a comment; only the comment will print (and the <|> won't print). We could also have [] to embed Haskell codes, or whatever it is. < 1372907078 613905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use {} to delimit mana symbols and other symbols. < 1372907079 256975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Bike: ok seriously, what's the place that's like russia but worse called. <-- belarus? < 1372907098 454522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, in russia. you know. thing < 1372907175 672329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. siberia. < 1372907188 717536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/o0EQIlV.png help. they're on to me < 1372907193 190810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, that. not serbia < 1372907202 492581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOT YOU < 1372907245 776300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably a picture of Bryggen (Bergen world heritage site) < 1372907381 976235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only remaining hanseatic league office, or something like that < 1372907459 493234 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other thing to do is that ~ and ~~ both mean a reference to itself (even if the text containing the tilde is being applied to a different object, although if it is copied, the text will refer to the copy), but prints as the name of the card. If the name of the card contains a comma, then ~~ will omit the comma and everything that comes after it. < 1372907530 229400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So there are many syntaxes to mean the same thing; what other programming languages also do the same thing and in a similar way?) < 1372907841 380448 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :siberia is like < 1372907842 471092 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in russia < 1372907893 155732 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw that Birobidzhan place? EAST OF SIBERIA BRO < 1372907958 215787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :geography is too hard when I'm this tired, Bike. < 1372908098 306749 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where'd you think a place called Birobidzhan was gonna be < 1372908100 94759 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :texas? < 1372908149 429540 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :france < 1372908981 746024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :paris, texas, clearly < 1372909504 788543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok < 1372909574 295932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you ever finish inventing n-dimensional fenceposts < 1372909632 248511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://contemplatecode.blogspot.com/2013/07/haskell-weekly-news-issue-272.html < 1372910814 840926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i just did https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Esoteric_programming_language&curid=53398&diff=562623568&oldid=562606940 and i've come to think about whether there are any other, disjoint communities of note. didn't there use to be quite a bit of stuff in japanese, which might mean there's a whole disjoint community as well... < 1372910966 926699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need jsvine to finish that article so we can have more citations on wikipedia < 1372911127 666559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to google translate https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/難解プログラミング言語 and google tells me the address is invalid :( < 1372911154 756180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think they'd get that stuff right for a translation tool < 1372911160 129417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you'd < 1372911200 704564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: works for me < 1372911207 950976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hm < 1372911212 470083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i used the google translate built into chromium < 1372911237 110630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like these descriptions of languages < 1372911243 101551 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Japanese esolang & obfuscation community is vibrant (to me), and it is more or less disjoint < 1372911256 407388 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to esolangs.org and etc. < 1372911293 18216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_somehow_ i'd got a :443 port into there, it worked when i removed it. < 1372911295 995711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge self-change possible two-dimensional array source code < 1372911313 581262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy K in a pure functional language, rather than the syntax for defining a new function, built-in function does not exist only three < 1372911314 723449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: so i thought the english wikipedia should have a link to it < 1372911337 430252 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think there is no central point in Japanese community though < 1372911381 864437 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many activities occur in hatena diaries (Japanese's equvialent to LJs, or similar) of interested people < 1372911411 167280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you should invent a programming language < 1372911411 723149 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but big bucks are for it. if it's the code, forcer?... by clog? cmeme does the logging. < 1372911424 428356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1372911431 420980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: go for the big bucks < 1372911431 934359 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: okay, maybe someone will rip the eventual dvd subtitles... otherwise it works just as well? < 1372911457 790316 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also note that the community itself is smaller, but they have managed to make esolang and obfuscation (specifically code golfing) to a general pastime of Japanese programmers somehow < 1372911507 757757 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it was possible < 1372911515 966323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: it seems like it overlaps significantly with golf in japan < 1372911521 672130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to a greater extent than in the west < 1372911525 445196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know how true this is < 1372911549 540417 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, code golfing is a lot popular in Japan than in the west (I think) < 1372911551 317491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you just said that < 1372911578 814743 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some of code golfers happen to be interested in esolangs < 1372911621 378680 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1372911643 802879 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen such unexpected popularity in Korea < 1372911708 273407 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(popularity, is of course relative, and we all know most programmers don't know even their existence, but golfing is relatively popular in Japan than in the west...) < 1372911918 437847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think any programming culture which has these kind of oddities at the forefront is pretty great < 1372912440 308947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh _Mathematics Made Difficult_ is good < 1372912468 170308 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there golfing with assembly, like, writing the shortest assembly program in bytes? I guess demos are a little like that < 1372912487 847710 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i've herad < 1372912488 895874 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heard < 1372912491 499897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1372912497 565744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superoptimization < 1372912514 303060 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372912526 189057 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't count in assembly since it might actually be useful. < 1372912537 654414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1372912560 158922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo we should play x86 golf < 1372912578 677757 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's actually useful < 1372912584 158040 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can do totally silly things that are really slow < 1372912598 161487 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but small < 1372912615 707059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are always extreme cases. < 1372912624 366685 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the fun part! doing silly things < 1372912643 635924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when i do them < 1372912647 398382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it's called being confusing < 1372912717 420503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I guess I'll fix lens instead. < 1372912881 552633 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer... HOLY SHIT < 1372912884 549000 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Changing host < 1372912884 753746 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1372912896 866081 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're in the wrong order, though. Everyone knows the order is GCAT, not ATGC. < 1372912926 960676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there is an order of the DNA. < 1372913231 474902 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unrelated: I like how there's some consensus about what the most important mathematical concept is. < 1372913280 506983 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, the function. < 1372913282 813207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of consensus about what the easiest mathematical concept is, too < 1372913307 146754 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Lemme try to think what I think the easiest mathematical concept is. < 1372913338 814887 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna say... the contrapositive of the substitution principle. If two things differ in some way, then they are not the same thing. < 1372913349 281979 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :leibniz equality? < 1372913443 478701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: help you're not even in #haskell < 1372913450 181123 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. The Leibniz equality reminds me of a certain philosophical argument that there should be no uncountable sets. < 1372913455 784191 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i be in #haskell. < 1372913493 343162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because ion is talking about leibniz equality in #haskell < 1372913504 118163 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncountable proper classes are okay, but there should be no uncountable sets. The idea is that given two different uncountable sets, it may be impossible to distinguish between them even given an infinite amount of time. < 1372913507 83348 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but that's some weird typery i don't really care about. < 1372913522 83056 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if two things are impossible to distinguish, they should not be considered different. < 1372913528 641440 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uncountable sets should not be admitted. < 1372913541 670206 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: sounds............. constructive < 1372913737 608193 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1372913917 811506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1372914555 238394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i still don't know if there's a way to get a pointer to the Japanese community into wikipedia, but at least i found the KEMURI language to add to our wiki. < 1372914969 303773 :Poolala!cf069781@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.151.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372915054 284983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder which IE designer had the bright idea of excluding https links from the _users own log_... < 1372916061 351636 :geo5!~IceChat77@c-24-18-117-153.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372916064 8704 :geo5!~IceChat77@c-24-18-117-153.hsd1.wa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1372917181 188087 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Not About The Nail http://youtu.be/-4EDhdAHrOg < 1372917873 974271 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1372917948 307454 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372918472 419287 :Poolala!cf069781@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.151.129 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1372918833 212967 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1372918977 237740 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@75-163-30-54.dlth.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1372919079 545605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: and sometimes it really _isn't_ about the nail but everyone insists it is. < 1372919140 499037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i just am that lady, sigh. < 1372919165 780562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the nail is just a penis. I mean a nail. < 1372919181 468260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, freudzie < 1372919924 149211 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1372922481 272644 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1372922558 420633 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1372922580 966776 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even get lambdabot to work with irc :( < 1372922596 623769 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1372922655 143559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "but i work just fine!" < 1372922656 829429 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "but i work just fine!" < 1372922712 421138 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any idea what the parameters of the irc-connect function actually are? < 1372922758 674900 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume network name, network address, port, user name, ???, ??? < 1372922780 445440 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last two may be passwort and join message or the like, but i'm pretty unsure < 1372922972 697615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you forgot the name and bloodtype of your firstborn < 1372922977 490462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1372922991 700500 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's because there is no firstborn < 1372923010 156655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. well then you cannot run lambdabot sorry < 1372923015 976409 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1372923093 464133 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found nothing that looks like a documentation, though < 1372923107 355568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help irc-connect < 1372923107 560291 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc-connect tag host portnum nickname userinfo. connect to an irc server < 1372923122 815238 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeah, there is this online.rc file, but we won't tell you what it looks like" < 1372923134 4869 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1372923143 457013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tag, hostname, port, nick, user < 1372923145 898975 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i set a server password? < 1372923159 766644 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My lambdabot came with an online.rc... < 1372923163 4874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you can. < 1372923178 594518 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine didn't < 1372923210 111216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess ellimokus got rid of it. < 1372923212 94749 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just threw out cabal install and got a dictionary with a bunch of binaries < 1372923231 196948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe try "cabal unpack lambdabot" < 1372923270 587026 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then making the setup steps myself? < 1372923286 848103 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really don't see the advantages, but well < 1372923309 93363 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can't provide a server password, it may be pretty useless for me nontheless < 1372923474 731039 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1372923501 116092 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the unpacked online.rc is "password.rc" as a parameter of the irc-connect command, but i don't find password.rc ... < 1372923594 263995 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1372923907 651840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Argh < 1372923929 990297 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1372924029 83741 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372924056 501164 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1372924469 494556 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, just looking at the code makes me crying blood < 1372924532 382226 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1372924553 901852 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which code? < 1372924558 392138 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how hard can it be to look at how to add a password" < 1372924567 709721 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid me < 1372925332 228335 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1372927474 342519 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1372928012 668443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it was inevitable really < 1372928034 498196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1372928040 906860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, your quote. < 1372928234 939854 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugz https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1015321_10200452898865210_1550553282_o.jpg < 1372928266 908714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugz doing drugz #drugs < 1372928277 312611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help where did that s come from < 1372928323 396462 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO < 1372928537 661845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: do you have a link / translation? < 1372928583 498408 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s just a boring article about people using more cannabis, the image was the funny part. < 1372928604 102246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask zzo38 Are there TeX macros for typesetting Magic: the Gathering cards? < 1372928604 306961 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1372928623 512285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: yeah so why is there a syringe < 1372928630 837035 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is confused < 1372928637 868657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://repo.or.cz/w/TeXnicard.git < 1372928665 111314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if the article says: how many people in your fair country smoke weed, anyway < 1372928679 465491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1372928731 629178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, zzo338 runs an irc server < 1372928767 657949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/zzo38-irc.txt < 1372928802 431912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1372928826 324365 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+HITLER sounds awsome. < 1372928828 198768 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1372928834 736540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/join +HITLER < 1372928855 299743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a + channel anyway < 1372928885 696923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :These unmoderated channels work almost exactly the same as '#' channels, except nobody can obtain channel operator status on them. Some implementations seem to set the channel mode to '+nt' upon creation, however most implementations act as if modes +nt are set but don't announce them as being set. < 1372928897 125444 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The only numbers in the visible part of the article are about 132 drugz-related crimes in Central Ostrobothnia last year, 114 in the preceding year. < 1372928923 445940 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: if i drugz will i become a criminal < 1372928926 590167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "having drugz" a drugz-related crime < 1372928993 188022 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think so. The paragraph talks about “crimes related to the use and sales of cannabis”, which probably means “the use and sales of cannabis”. < 1372929008 647389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then kind of a bullshit metric imo < 1372929020 177731 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all should join me on zzo38computer.org < 1372929022 710456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :port 194 < 1372929029 953534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the ICANN port for IRC? < 1372929039 517611 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc 194/tcp < 1372929050 551141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1372929057 331986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IANA? whoever) < 1372929081 282919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I reddit.com/r/IANA < 1372930326 229558 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1372930326 229720 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1372930669 194739 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1372932094 396576 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372932824 287476 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://crypto.cat/ http://tobtu.com/decryptocat.php < 1372932885 677874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good cryptography < 1372934637 90158 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.94.217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372935480 758055 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372936951 935765 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1372939883 753761 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1372941298 264656 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1372941415 358621 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372943855 545286 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason dbelange has an urban dictionary entry < 1372943887 102736 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so does zzo) < 1372944016 925982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"buy zzo38 mugs & shirts" it is amuse < 1372944032 81830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly there are no statistics as to how many have been bought. < 1372944056 235404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that: I have one too. (But it's not one I'm very proud of.) < 1372944128 282911 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372944146 982111 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1372944163 296467 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372944190 595633 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1372944193 333082 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372944454 408164 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1372944779 618929 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372945478 422660 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@75-163-30-54.dlth.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372945479 341037 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372945688 749096 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you do? < 1372945702 870479 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried 'fizzie' but it just came up with the standard ridiculous sex act < 1372946549 510197 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1372947713 775224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the standard ridiculous sex act is what I meant. < 1372947745 618381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "The act of shoving Pop-Rocks (TM) into the male penis via the urethra. [add a video]" please don't add a video < 1372948469 752722 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, would you be obliged to watch it because it depicts something named after you, or something? < 1372948496 320207 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's a video the world needs to contain < 1372948611 791979 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do it < 1372950126 464040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Isn't that how it works? (But also what P_H said.) < 1372950967 401213 :TeruFSX2!~TeruFSX@75-163-30-54.dlth.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1372951438 474570 :sivoais!~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1372951627 405212 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372951800 531535 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1372952142 539110 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 QUIT :Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! < 1372953799 796962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1372954172 600073 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372955142 134813 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1372955290 844217 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1372955488 654601 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.94.217 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8j0 ÷ 0j1 gives me 0J0.125. what the shit < 1372955524 658761 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.94.217 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, wait, 0j8. < 1372955604 490151 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.94.217 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's still wrong... how do you mess up complex division, guy who made this < 1372955663 243478 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1372955663 614288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty complex < 1372955689 168825 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even a real pun fuck you < 1372955706 730887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: dont question me < 1372955720 778603 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't a question! < 1372955724 289473 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a statement < 1372972322 964856 :Gregor!~Gregor@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1372972325 351362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1372972329 129037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically glogbot just gives up after some hours each day, it seems < 1372972353 892658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which you'd, like, expect if the disks are full i guess) < 1372972884 725594 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-132-249.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1372973035 948669 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bags packed ready for Silicon Dreams tomorrow :-) < 1372973055 314436 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes they're selling some cool stuff... < 1372973076 223248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the electric sheep kind of dreams < 1372973170 867788 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.silicondreams.org.uk no sign of electric sheep :-( < 1372973300 413072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks charming < 1372974275 325013 :TeruFSX!~TeruFSX@75-163-31-93.dlth.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372974869 568684 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1372976357 50715 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.180.217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1372976421 54425 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.94.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1372977718 127921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit i think cabal is breaking because i named by new laptop's user "Ørjan" < 1372977749 380049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it compiles everything fine and then gives invalid byte sequences on the final registrations < 1372977785 634466 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1372977840 219250 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1372977980 371720 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nasty < 1372977988 687914 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprising that they don't handle that, maybe there's an issue for it... < 1372978032 949735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no the "new haskell script" shortcut from the file browser isn't there. hm maybe it was actually hugs that made that on my old laptop, way back. < 1372978097 92695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: of course if they _have_ fixed it, i probably cannot install the fixed version D: < 1372978160 350877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sounds like an excellent time to install linux >:) < 1372978921 926851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right after i get rid of this crippling loss of motivation to do anything involving yak shaving. (except agoran Yaks, they're cool.) < 1372979000 656104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly what I need to do is bring an ubuntu CD to trondheim. < 1372979542 595652 :maddock!~Maddock@99-73-139-91.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1372980218 475156 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.180.217 NICK :nooodl < 1372980319 270059 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm blanking on a clever way to compute x // 2 + x // 4 + x // 8 + ..., help < 1372980335 265127 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x = 2^n it's n-1 but that's all i got < 1372980407 883094 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess i can just iterate //2, that's something < 1372980446 497791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's // and how's its precedence < 1372980463 801442 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :integer division < 1372980478 593075 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget the actual way you write it < 1372980571 950500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably depends on language (haskell is `div` or `quot`) < 1372980593 105018 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tryin' to be all mathy here donchaknow < 1372980598 976705 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like 15 // 2 = 7, 16 // 2 = 8, etc < 1372980610 310612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case [ x / 2 ] is one way < 1372980635 163926 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i'm guessing [] isn't iverson bracket < 1372980660 112254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except _ideally_ without top horizontal part of brackets < 1372980681 477375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's floor < 1372980688 597414 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, how's that wor. < 1372980689 997283 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :work < 1372980692 5575 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike wouldn't that give a similar result as multiplying by MAXINT-1 and taking the high word of the result? Which might be similar to computing 0-x. < 1372980735 910825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: i think you get trouble with the bits you want to cut off giving carry into the bits you want to keep < 1372980768 804852 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well like, this(15) = 11 for instance < 1372980779 100868 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'd kind of like to generalize it to bases other than two. < 1372980795 934797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: surely [...] is rounding < 1372980796 139309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now you're just being difficult :P < 1372980809 821155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, doesn't it have to be ceiling as well. < 1372980825 647986 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well floor(15/2) isn't 11 anyway so i don't get what oerjan meant. < 1372980833 870588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i vaguely thought it meant floor by default, but you always want < 1372980844 286086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i mean 15 // 2 = floor (15 / 2) < 1372980845 55999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he meant for denoting integer division < 1372980851 64411 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1372980853 12335 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1372980858 906515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I always want? < 1372980873 101360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*always want to cut off top or bottom for clarity < 1372980906 260590 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1372980914 478535 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome maddock < 1372980921 487729 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12maddock: Welcome08 to the intern08ational hub for esot05eri03c programmin09g language des04ign an03d deployment! For mo12re02 i08nform06a06ti03on, check out our wiki13: http://esola08ngs13.org/wiki/Main13_Pa13ge. 14(05F14o04r the o03ther kind 03of esoterica, try #eso09t07eric on02 irc.04dal13.05n14et11.) < 1372980923 274309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floor_and_ceiling_functions#Notation < 1372980954 315116 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: i'm not sure what you meant but (x * (2^n)-1) >> n doesn't work < 1372980976 350467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what i'm thinking is this is sort of a summing of a triangle of bits < 1372981014 693446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: clearly you cannot consider gauss to be _wrong_ hth < 1372981017 418939 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.115.220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe start with y=1, result=0. If the right bit of x is set then result=result+y. Then shift x right. shift y left and add 1. Then repeat until x=0 < 1372981051 520927 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pfft, what's gas but a load of hot air < 1372981074 768078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kind of bizarre that APL lead to a change in common mathematical notation... < 1372981086 225325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for such simple operations < 1372981107 554488 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well who uses floor and ceiling besides CS people anyway < 1372981114 10700 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw i have no idea what triangle of bits means < 1372981127 150603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh now i see the confusion - the notation _was_ invented by iverson, but it's not what's called "iverson brackets" :P < 1372981133 876008 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, no < 1372981142 147136 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iverson brackets is [foo] = 1 if foo is true, 0 otherwise < 1372981148 383330 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda useful but not like. related. < 1372981164 413144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Dijkstra liked those < 1372981175 726406 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though he hated APL I guess < 1372981187 66653 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dijkstra hated everything, though < 1372981195 17555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe it was Knuth who liked it < 1372981202 990533 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah he uses it all the time < 1372981205 518122 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah but he was cuddly on the inside. < 1372981225 105136 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are hedgehogs < 1372981273 24874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hedgehogs are great < 1372981362 708338 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1372981422 157 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knuth uses it in his book < 1372981443 983950 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you express the halting problem as an iversen bracket < 1372981462 60146 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it would have to be two brackets nested < 1372981510 32871 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :H(x) = [x halts] < 1372981588 656934 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i really wanted was an iverson bracket you cant give the value 0 or 1 to < 1372981986 173441 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't give a value to [is {some set of matrices} mortal] :P < 1372982017 892621 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that does have a value 0 or 1 < 1372982020 351198 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if we cant find it < 1372982040 678131 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well an iverson bracket is defined to have a value of 0 or 1. < 1372982047 265233 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just... how it's defined < 1372982100 590708 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well X = [X = 0] can't be given a value. < 1372982108 921974 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think there's some non recursive X I could write [X] and argue that it cant be given as 0 or 1 < 1372982150 110250 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between "does have a value [...] even if we cant find it" and "cant be given as 0 or 1" < 1372982152 670425 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think you can do it with 2 []'s but not 1 < 1372982169 81654 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: heh < 1372982177 702940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume that for any given P you can prove ~([P] <> 0 /\ [P] <> 1) < 1372982181 10539 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike i want an actual contradiction from assuming [X] = 0 or [X] = 1 < 1372982194 382030 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott what if P includes iverson brackets too? < 1372982195 244056 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well uh, elliott gave that < 1372982203 245601 :katla!~brook@172.245.33.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonrecursive < 1372982205 567415 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and excluded middle gives [P] = 0 \/ [P] = 1 presumably < 1372982212 426994 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: well, hmm < 1372982216 338846 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought you meant "recursive" like "computable" < 1372982218 448926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I don't actually know < 1372982226 864506 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's is just the liar paradox and there are nonrecursive liar paradoxes < 1372982254 161089 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quick, how do you do yields falsehood) < 1372982257 916130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I think the function [-] : Prop -> 2 existing is just equivalent to LEM? < 1372982285 161634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to go from that to LEM is easy, you just plug the proposition into the function and then you get either a proof of P or not P by the definition of [-]. < 1372982299 307462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to go the other way, you define the function by casing on whether the proposition you're given is true or not. < 1372982336 690927 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-130.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds legit