< 1373587285 190852 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The team injected their snails with two different types of lyophilized bacteria, Escherichia coli and Microccocus lysodeikticus, as well as ground-up gonads from an unlucky snail infected with a trematode parasite. Some snails escaped these treatments and just received innocuous injections of snail saline or ground-up uninfected gonads. < 1373588157 324747 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1373588176 161216 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373588514 213417 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an animal eating the inside of my wall < 1373588531 754310 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes a lot of creepy noises < 1373589363 822582 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( I can't download Java 6 anymore without having an Oracle account < 1373589637 396153 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't be giving a Java 6 application Administrative privileges anyway < 1373589705 761427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh gosh, I found this thing on yks < 1373589712 738043 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/glennf/crowdfunding-a-guide-to-what-works-and-why I still can't get over the fact that this. existed, and /failed/ < 1373589736 153895 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well did it fail < 1373589742 355038 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he cancelled it like halfway in < 1373589778 1826 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I mean, like. levels of irony < 1373589855 736604 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still waiting on a Kickstarter project I backed in 2011 < 1373589866 30528 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one's that < 1373589874 485795 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1508284443/grandroids-real-artificial-life-on-your-pc?ref=live < 1373589878 548517 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it one of the first wave or was it something depressing and Sgeo < 1373589885 333714 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was something depressing and Sgeo < 1373589910 273396 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1373589951 664870 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, i'd give up hope < 1373590042 822254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, he's still working on it < 1373590046 643870 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see his blog posts < 1373590068 98908 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1373590073 341186 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :........AND I HAVE A COMPUTER THAT CAN RUN IT.... when it goes into backer-only beta someday < 1373590090 969001 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is pretty much a textbook case of a kickstarter that's doomed < 1373590096 438047 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, a game kickstarter < 1373590115 269654 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he got the creatures to balance themselves < 1373590219 629441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike I couldn't find a copy of the book with the laughterless planet in it. So I'll take a different one. < 1373590219 893813 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1373590394 453934 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373590429 794862 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, well like he's working without any kind of oversight or authority from the people funding him < 1373590460 582789 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKRpxj5sqg8&feature=youtu.be < 1373590465 866513 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from past experience i suspect what'll happen is he'll piss that time away because there's no pressure on him to deliver rather than tinkering away forever and you'll all be left at a loss < 1373590486 317615 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: https://twitter.com/Fausto_Sterling/status/355437744085938179 < 1373590489 527349 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(scroll up) < 1373590499 251493 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that workz < 1373590512 325789 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woow. < 1373590532 582140 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Planaria_nervous.png kind of shitty as brains go, tbh < 1373590556 192307 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you look at that it's not really all that surprising is it < 1373590558 607509 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand the paper claimed that they don't move while headless < 1373590571 25289 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probably the "brain" does have the CPG sort of things < 1373590576 845908 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or drivers anyway < 1373590611 940528 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is that thing about dinosaurs having a secondary neural cluster to control their hind legs actually true these days?) < 1373590627 211421 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess when they finally get working head transplants on mammals we'll be able to get a bigger idea of how non-brain memory works? < 1373590635 451109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well. non brain cognition things in general < 1373590641 524352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's... a lot different between planarians and vertebrates. < 1373590655 654810 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i dunno about you but even as a bike i'm like 2000% more cephalized than those things. < 1373590661 150562 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1373590665 623615 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... cephalized? < 1373590669 150298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Bike is a bike? < 1373590681 982708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalization I had no idea this was a thing < 1373590688 421603 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there are degrees of headedness. < 1373590699 795203 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a jellyfish or w/e doesn't have a centralized brain, unsurprisingly, just a nerve net < 1373590714 437766 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does it... ever concentrate at the... non-head end < 1373590734 904492 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "head" for this purpose is defined as the bit with the brain, so < 1373590737 85246 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the head end's wherever it ends up concentrating, of course < 1373590753 599366 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not inherent that shit comes out the other end, if that's what you're thinking < 1373590755 243256 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, well like all the other things generally associated with 'head' < 1373590771 290594 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'bit that goes forward', 'bit where food goes in', 'bit where eyes are', etc. < 1373590779 177224 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well once you have a brain having the sense organs nearer the brain is obviously advantageous < 1373590811 854373 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :having your eyes behind you isn't very good, motion-wise < 1373590812 389552 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you can have things in metastable but non-optimal positions can't you < 1373590818 90283 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember hearing a thing that like, the brain would internally delay signals from closer sensory organs so that everything was synchronized? < 1373590824 379883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that just like, a conscious illusory effect < 1373590836 629791 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was something along the lines of "technically, tall people experience the world with very slightly more delay" < 1373590843 681606 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's a theory, yeah < 1373590844 218799 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because their feet are farther away < 1373590855 90875 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah but not seeing well means dying fast. < 1373590873 10719 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, er, what does seeing 'well' mean < 1373590891 4197 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking about the 'bit that goes forward' question < 1373590895 249293 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hell? < 1373590897 202575 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean aren't mammaly eyes pretty shit as eyes go < 1373590898 579107 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you had an animal with a head, and eyes on the tail < 1373590901 590444 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are my icons shared between users? < 1373590922 509930 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deleted an ActiveWorlds shortcut off my Work user, and I don't see it on my Home user's desktop < 1373590924 386247 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty easy to sneak up and decapitate it, see < 1373590955 418738 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: as for dinos, i found http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/365/did-dinosaurs-have-a-separate-brain-in-their-behinds. the answer seems to be no. unfortunately. < 1373590973 564383 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any vetebrates with a split or spread out nervous system? < 1373590978 695359 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, well i was thinking more basic stuff i guess < 1373590987 66069 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what do you think your spinal cord is :p < 1373590992 527078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen recent movies from Touchstone and Pixar (both of which are Disney), and I didn't see Mickey Mouse (although I wasn't really trying). Is it only their hand-drawn cartoons that have Mickey Mouse? < 1373590998 497526 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, like, the brain itself,sorry >_< < 1373591000 642395 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shit is /loaded/ with CPGs lemme tell you < 1373591009 317311 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPG? < 1373591012 529228 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean, what's "the brain itself". the spinal cord is part of the CNS < 1373591021 673113 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :central pattern generator, sort of vaguely like a clock < 1373591032 290720 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so like phased locked loops for neurons? < 1373591042 870323 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1373591060 703227 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess like. a human brain seems to keep working mostly fine with a severed spinal cord though? < 1373591062 43814 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much exactly that in fact. < 1373591084 934053 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the brain also works mostly fine with a hemisphere removed~ < 1373591092 758089 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... that's true <.< < 1373591112 982035 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mod development) < 1373591123 281699 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( Active Worlds is behaving dumbly < 1373591125 160542 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like how much of her brain does buttercup not have < 1373591137 186052 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems a little odd to define the spinal cord like that ? I don't know you know more than me < 1373591159 194519 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, if you mean do you need the spinal cord to be a poet or w/e then yeah you don't. < 1373591466 726759 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the "spinal cord injury" article on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Man_falling_of_horse.jpg "Falling as a part of recreational activities can cause spinal cord injuries." < 1373591562 515178 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1373591882 192671 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: so um... there is a fairly high degree of decentralization in vertebrates even; i mean we have lots of autonomic ganglia too: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Gray839.png < 1373592256 607723 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1373592429 70465 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess what I'm kind of thinking of is like um... < 1373592440 870790 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the human nervous system is kind of like a tree, isn't it? like the stomach doesn't really talk to the leg < 1373592447 76444 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they both talk to some central nerve < 1373592458 137233 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there cases where the nervous system is more like... a graph? < 1373592467 92917 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't cephalopods like that < 1373592482 646664 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jellyfish are like tha.t < 1373592491 946508 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :invertebrates generallly don't have notochords, i guess < 1373592497 529013 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much about their anatomy though :( < 1373592500 823028 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, two brains would be more like a graph < 1373592504 621840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :than one < 1373592512 98320 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow I used graph theory to describe this I am a dork < 1373592530 922410 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well neuroscientists do it too "it's cool" < 1373592559 34479 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what the adaptive advantage of having two brains would be, though. < 1373592583 508838 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, how often do you use a tree with two roots < 1373592585 115691 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a reasonable enough way to describe something which is... made of nodes connected by edges < 1373592598 934570 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess on the neuron level it's not that graphy < 1373592618 858695 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty graphy in some micro situations < 1373592634 769497 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.f. everything ramon y cajal ever drew < 1373592670 499175 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/c0cc8be3d7d1cc3cf4512fc69ce9a8a6/tumblr_metattU8KO1rvzqmmo1_400.gif "good tree, imo" < 1373592671 303477 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean, graphs aren't necessarily the best abstraction to use < 1373592678 578841 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they have axons and dendrites ans all that shit < 1373592688 83999 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :directed graph. < 1373592712 646390 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the level of individual neurons it's inaccurate sure, but that's some dorky shit annyway < 1373592746 595650 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v4/n1/images/nrn1010-f2.jpg the neuron people came from the sky to rule us < 1373592824 156726 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://aegisaglow.tumblr.com/post/55219226085/neurosciencestuff-first-man-to-hear-people wow this is timely < 1373592833 709509 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The only multicellular animals that have no nervous system at all are sponges, placozoans and mesozoans, which have very simple body plans. The nervous systems of ctenophores (comb jellies) and cnidarians (e.g., anemones, hydras, corals and jellyfishes) consist of a diffuse nerve net. All other types of animals, with the exception of a few types of worms, have a nervous system containing a brain, a central cord (or two cords running ... < 1373592839 712332 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... in parallel), and nerves radiating from the brain and central cord" < 1373592842 123063 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gues that answers the question of whether anything actually has two brains. < 1373592878 73703 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, you're under arrest for aiding and abetting crimes against colour coordination < 1373592884 854431 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was a weird case. brain problems generally are some fucked shit, imo. < 1373592897 802647 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :color... color coordination? @_@ < 1373592915 63410 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's saying the blog is ugly < 1373592918 56315 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not my blog :< < 1373592925 98261 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's haven's blog < 1373592926 450387 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, hence 'aiding and abetting' < 1373592927 826491 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of have to agree, really < 1373592935 873998 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, as we call it in scotland, 'art and part' < 1373592936 947572 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1373592946 870431 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you actually say that < 1373592954 713579 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :scots law is great < 1373592976 999059 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the guys where you can be "guilty but not proven", yeah? < 1373592995 933016 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just called 'not proven' i think? < 1373592997 576983 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes < 1373593054 438417 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally it was just guilty/not proven but at some point a jury pointedly ruled 'not guilty' and the two acquittals just kind of coexisted < 1373593236 91778 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, xenoturbella are deuterosomes but don't have brains < 1373593261 889561 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one i remember is that the person upon whom a crime was visited is referred to as 'the complainer' < 1373593286 53901 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1373593327 995228 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.accessscience.com/loadBinary.aspx?filename=YB051410FG0010.gif gonna use my authority as a bikeologist to say xenoturbella look terrible < 1373593449 112039 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1373593525 761845 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373593701 482008 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, but look they have a groove! < 1373593759 742794 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they entirely lack groove or funk of any sort < 1373594736 396245 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1373595013 553381 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:bc:2a13:4196:ead3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1373595264 889225 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373595409 583574 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373595426 444738 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1373595532 899248 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1373595587 111931 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1373595840 342098 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1373595993 140743 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373596577 599114 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1373596578 943296 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/400/035/d1871725b651f53a9094e9b9d803ef6e_large.jpg?1361420820 < 1373596744 768155 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1373597024 575165 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-38-246.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1373597128 489782 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373597348 339606 :nooodl!~nooodl@132.151-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1373599285 229234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Oops, I guess I forgot to click the button for bacat. < 1373599293 387956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess I'll be on the waitlist too. < 1373599298 811079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I could just not bother, and just show up. < 1373599714 251144 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sounds like a plan < 1373599738 341550 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people are more likely to cancel without telling anyone < 1373599753 288170 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be a shame to go all the way into SF, though < 1373599773 288801 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :though not in general < 1373599838 709307 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll ask Vlad, I guess. < 1373599863 379168 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to combine a WorldsPlayer-like architecture with WebGL
< 1373599895 707944 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although WorldsPlayer-like might not be that descriptive < 1373600222 401572 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373600761 817480 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is good.example.com safe from evil.example.com? < 1373600772 810907 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should example.com make sure evil.example.com doesn't exist < 1373600783 38544 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(user created Javascript and HTML pages) < 1373600832 451361 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1373601004 974286 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good news, everyone! < 1373601020 499335 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott now knows how to count to two! < 1373601038 481612 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373601039 554444 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm pretty sure that foo.example.com and bar.example.com are totally separate and can't interact with each other. < 1373601054 489257 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got some omichronic? < 1373601135 878843 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, that epside isn't out yet < 1373601140 157591 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1373601147 490578 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*episode < 1373601164 557378 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same_origin_policy < 1373601177 91684 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like foo.example.com can interfere with example.com, however. But example.com can't interfere with foo.example.com. < 1373601319 642739 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: i'm ready for the next episode < 1373601341 398497 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll link you < 1373601512 458859 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://watchacartoon.vv.si/ro/Watch-Futurama%20Season%207%20Episode%2016%20T%20The%20Terrestrial-_-aHR0cDovL3d3dy53YXRjaGNhcnRvb25vbmxpbmUuY29tL2Z1dHVyYW1hLXNlYXNvbi03LWVwaXNvZGUtMTYtdC10aGUtdGVycmVzdHJpYWw= < 1373601778 94198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1373601880 622436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I asked Vlad and he said I could just show up. < 1373602293 911573 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know Vlad, perhaps I shall be forbidden :o < 1373602307 355329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't really ask about names or anything. < 1373602338 316354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully we get to use the big room again. The small room is, uh, too small. < 1373603582 300845 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: sigh < 1373603609 910673 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373603850 661262 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://www.superksonic.com/the-project < 1373604593 46036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Logically, though, isn't the big room then, uh, too big? < 1373604622 399216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should ask for the suitably-sized room instead. < 1373604939 88018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That one is, uh, too suitably-sized. < 1373605098 517984 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1373605101 742858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1373605243 823156 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://nomic.zbasu.net/nomicbank/userinfo/sgeo/ < 1373605253 210914 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it doesn't do much, though; it's just a thing for tracking debts. < 1373605261 710897 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :In three different currencies, even. < 1373605278 198986 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why did I initially think that would be a LambdaMOO thing? < 1373605410 781738 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mudlet.org/ < 1373605418 498653 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how do mappers like that work? < 1373605426 572790 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And do they assume MUD, and not work in a MOO < 1373605736 809121 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1373605773 700211 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1373606254 875594 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so am I confused, or do iterators basically work as an explicit (but not much more verbose and less magic) version of stream fusion? < 1373606278 335891 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1373606377 122985 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of iterators? < 1373606422 967471 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :python-style - i guess really the same thing as streams but without skip < 1373606451 154228 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i was confused - they do, but trivially so < 1373606534 713994 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only magic rewrite rule in haskell's stream fusion is that stream+unstream is the identity < 1373606621 169104 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you just be upfront about doing things with iterators, there's no need for that < 1373606692 57525 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder whether it would be advisable to have skip < 1373607943 133733 :itsy!~digital_w@79.60.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373608580 39215 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1373610665 285436 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1373611532 458000 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :goin to the DMV tomorrow < 1373611533 254197 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo < 1373611545 404774 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :so excited < 1373612003 446077 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1373612008 315774 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1373612243 737883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1373612547 870930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello friends < 1373612788 868571 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah < 1373612804 291160 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HexChat's current color for joins is what I'm used to for quits and parts < 1373612839 885489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it looks like they didn't see any better solution than rebooting the server that had problems yesterday (initially with accessing the NFS mail directory, but the problem escalated quickly) < 1373612856 856919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is HexChat the official IRC client of Hexham < 1373612865 729605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd assume so < 1373612871 933565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, it is a solution, of course. < 1373612884 831509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1373612900 798859 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When two vehicles meet on a steep road where neither vehicle can pass, the vehicle facing downhill must yield the right-of-way by backing up until the vehicle going uphill can pass." < 1373612913 865507 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost a setup to a joke < 1373612935 215225 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if you're reversing, that makes you a vehicle going uphill, so the process can continue recursively < 1373613001 505225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1373613017 269389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Favourite traffic rules trick question for the Finnish exam (which is mostly based on asking questions about pictures): set up a straight-forward looking scenario, but put a tram behind a bush somewhere on the left, so that a small corner is peeking out. < 1373613039 244706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As an exception to the general rule, trams here have right-of-way disregarding the approach direction.) < 1373613044 179850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm reminds me of a norwegian comedy sketch (from a show which i vaguely recall was based on a british one), although the road there was flat afair < 1373613110 660034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on "Hancock's Half Hour" says no.wikipedia < 1373613114 219349 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DMV knows physics, too < 1373613135 738419 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The force of a 60 mph crash is not just twice as great as 30 mph crash; it's four times as great!" < 1373613150 938226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the DMV know psychics? < 1373613179 756356 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on this manual, they did not anticipate you asking < 1373613411 626765 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1373613627 484650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trams are good because you know they aren't going to suddenly swerve and run you over < 1373613702 594798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it even more dangerous when they do anyway hth < 1373613739 238701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRAAAAAMS < 1373613779 253153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it cost a lot of money to get a driving license in finland or no < 1373613829 144032 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine most public services costing a lot of money in finland < 1373613839 237697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it cost a lot of time at least < 1373613845 754681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so i heard" < 1373613854 67189 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :finland is just one big cult < 1373613923 767160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is #esoteric a cult < 1373613944 518862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is the cult leader of #esoteric < 1373613958 497614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i follow zzo38 < 1373613976 227111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wouldn't call him a cult leader, really < 1373613989 726399 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says cults have leaders? < 1373613992 146323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just an inspiration < 1373613995 440036 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the leader? pssh. < 1373614028 507276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're an ineffective cult because our leaders are so lazy < 1373614051 463361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps #esoteric is a cocult < 1373614056 908156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not to be confused with the occult) < 1373614065 523289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an initial object but no terminal object < 1373614066 364202 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :TINC < 1373614097 309504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The cocult (not to be confused with the occult) channel | <3 | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric and http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1373614112 329278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric on irc.dahl.net is presumably the occult channel? < 1373614117 959759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably. < 1373614259 486746 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never make a U-turn: [...] On a one-way street. < 1373614371 725172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advice < 1373614488 398817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1373614494 607954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on which way you start. < 1373614539 764616 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if you are driving in the wrong direction on a one way street, you are required to immediately pull to the side of the road, stop, panic, and turn around when safe. < 1373614719 190344 :mtve-!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1373614909 573898 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instruction on backing up, there are separate bullet points for "your kids" and "other children". < 1373614997 142879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, presumably each person is responsible for backing up their own kids. < 1373615015 634917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't even have read access to other children. < 1373615054 899490 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently you are required to have executable access to directories of other children. < 1373615187 291293 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :'If another drive does not him his or her lights: [...] Do not try to "get back" at the other driver by keeping your bright lights on. If you do, both of you may be blinded.' --Gandhi < 1373615196 647807 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dim < 1373615341 978845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1373615405 449887 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you a driver's license? in the great state of CA, even? < 1373615428 210513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a train license < 1373615449 178730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: no < 1373615487 726254 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Confused people are also exemplified as "Tourists, often at complicated intersections" and "Drivers who are looking for a house number or who slow down for no apparent reason" < 1373615522 723303 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare this to merely distracted people, who may include: Delivery persons, Construction workers, Children (who often run into the street without looking), etc. < 1373615539 970703 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, why are children so stupid? < 1373615547 967449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tourists enter, one wrist leaves < 1373615571 327652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :very strange folks < 1373615775 689956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i go to finland again < 1373615806 582680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1373615812 342178 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you drive for sight-seeing purposes to the scene of a fire, collision, or other disaster, you may be arrested." < 1373615888 923231 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Horse-drawn vehicles and riders of horses or other animals are entitled to share the road with motor vehicles. It is a traffic offense to scare horses or stampede livestock." < 1373616026 386696 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Interesting: cyclists are required to carry identification < 1373616238 182141 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :More fun information: you may not use your cellphone, even hands-free, "to engage in distracting conversations" < 1373616309 814811 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will all be tested on this. < 1373616349 170123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the medical marijuana test next < 1373616404 32256 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the condition that can be easily claimed to 'pass' such a test, due I think to lack of easy falsifiability? < 1373616404 834185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"do you want some marijuana? y/n" < 1373616573 700177 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, there is such a thing. Which, I understand, is actually pretty common. < 1373616658 55805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1373616940 975335 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do not shoot firearms on a highway or at traffic signs." < 1373616960 58782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1373616976 834933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop signs out in the desert have a lot of shotgun holes in them < 1373616990 627127 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also such a thing as "illegally tinted safety glasses" < 1373617009 808353 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, not to mention, "Vehicles taking part in a funeral procession have the right-of-way" < 1373617037 307716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it the rite-of-way? < 1373617068 470569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The driving schools are, I think, relatively expensive. < 1373617082 550353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet I think most go that way. < 1373617085 771803 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Finland? < 1373617088 765113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1373617100 810300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you have an accommodating parent or some such, it would technically be possible for them to acquire a permit to teach someone. < 1373617159 546512 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1373617229 787626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Goatse School of Driving -- so (colloquially) named because of their logo: http://www.haaganautokoulu.fi/wp-content/themes/thematic/img/header.jpg -- seems to charge a total of 1630 euros, of which the major part (1190 eur) is 17 * 50 minutes of driving instruction. < 1373617263 881419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But these are of course all private places.) < 1373617279 6497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice logo < 1373617371 450651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many high schools (incl. mine) have a special deal with a driving school such that there's a course you can sign up to, which includes the theory part (possibly you even got one course credit point for it), and probably you get a discount for the driving lessons. < 1373617383 414520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did that thing.) < 1373617698 959760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm in norway you don't need a permit to teach someone to drive, as long as you're not paid. but there are experience requirements and stuff. < 1373617769 410247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's considered unreasonably expensive to get enough training solely from professionals. < 1373617806 370506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Apparently the union of driving schools has a strong lobbying presence here, and there's been some controversy about it. < 1373617819 595058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm the topic needs higher codepoints < 1373617823 744507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf TOPIC #esoteric :The cocult (not to be confused with the occult) channel | ♥ | http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=5 | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric and http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1373617863 206279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. claims that they've made the private-person teaching needlessly difficult/expensive, and funded bogus "research" on how professional driving education improves safety, and so on. < 1373617912 920692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1373617931 498928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it seems that they've changed the requirements for that teaching permit in 2013 to be even more difficult, and the process of getting one now costs like 3000 eur, which doesn't make it any cheaper than just going to a regular school. < 1373617937 709860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so I gather from fi.wikipedia. < 1373617964 922576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, I didn't really know it was such a controversial topic; I've thought "well, that's very expensive, but I guess that's the way it is" once or twice and that's it. < 1373617999 169772 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was able to get 20 hours worth of driving school free in high school in the United States. < 1373618017 801300 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to some program or another, though; I forget the details. < 1373618023 774564 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it was a private school. < 1373618043 487378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we just got the theory part for free in the program I mentioned. Then again, we don't really pay for the schools, so... < 1373618076 883558 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :The instructor occasionally asked me to drive to shopping centers, where he left me standing in the car for up to 5 minutes to pick up food or prescriptions etc... < 1373618106 15681 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it was not exactly entirely professional. < 1373618505 205766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw i made ais523's concurrency construct in haskell maybe some others would like to see it http://lpaste.net/90816 < 1373618514 529746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not tested, as usual) < 1373618578 246266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1373618615 532625 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1373618620 133553 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1373618620 339346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1373619550 458823 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373619640 372007 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373621403 28666 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1373621679 17003 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373622328 225222 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1373623284 958849 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1373623864 241899 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373624139 78572 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1373624154 20833 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host < 1373624154 226564 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1373624161 566860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1373624165 851065 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1373624166 656188 :shachaf_!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf NICK :shachaf < 1373624268 442133 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373624294 101706 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1373624297 651726 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1373624297 857531 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1373624297 857607 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1373624331 365328 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1373624865 717024 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373625091 294873 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1373625804 548748 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1373625987 820833 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Fiora < 1373627071 450836 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://low.fi/~viznut/loremipsum-google.txt < 1373627510 606534 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CIA let KSM design vacuum cleaner in detention to 'keep him sane'" < 1373627668 613413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1373627715 732016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1373628387 858727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this pen stuff in the backlog is reminding me of http://artisanalpencilsharpening.com < 1373628480 272014 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1373628497 290670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's reminding me of Pen Island. < 1373628512 330663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are very passionate about pens too.) < 1373631878 258852 :olsner_!~salparot@81-233-241-44-no50.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1373631894 706468 :olsner_!~salparot@81-233-241-44-no50.tbcn.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hi" < 1373632867 579159 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Their website is full of gems. < 1373632902 499966 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of our customers prefer to take on two or even three types of wood for one project. < 1373632930 997514 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: Can I provide my own wood? A: In most cases we can handle your wood. We do require all shipments to be clean, free of parasites and pass all standard customs inspections. < 1373633153 784491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1373633154 919148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whether all you want is a simple skinny white pen (it's our best seller!) or something wrapped in leather or little pink bows, we've done it all. Even pens dipped in chocolate!" < 1373634065 811117 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1373634102 368086 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1373634166 196900 :olsner_!~salparot@81-233-241-44-no50.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1373635682 648554 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.err.ee/politics/0233b688-b116-44c3-98ca-89a4057acad8 https://github.com/vvk-ehk/evalimine/blob/master/ivote-server/hes/vote_analyzer.py < 1373637360 378756 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1373638727 126434 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I saw that. Note also how their code is extremely not documented < 1373638749 212062 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :This somehow has to be an elaborate prank... < 1373638872 78977 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the estonian prime-minister is pulling a hoax < 1373639688 394751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a "House of Elliott" brand necklace for sale here at the post office. < 1373639711 553211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy it < 1373639744 836175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It costs like 32.90. < 1373639876 882906 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 isn't much moneys for an elliott < 1373639883 286432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took a picture of it, that's like the next best thing. < 1373639902 899833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I must shopping. < 1373641092 230104 :itsy!~digital_w@79.60.112.87.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what was that? The Post Office sells necklaces? < 1373641426 168937 :impomatic!~john_metc@79.60.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1373641455 773460 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373641523 482845 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're co cult? What does that mean < 1373641842 636178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: They have one shelf of "miscellaneous crap". < 1373641912 183915 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373641984 25546 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning, #esoteric < 1373642005 12845 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1373642028 886585 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything exciting lately in the world of esolangs? < 1373642094 168139 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I haven't been online much recently < 1373642122 889697 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I had to check out for a couple of weeks to focus on another project; now trying to catch up :) < 1373642216 747082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130712-house_of_elliott.jpg http://www.houseofelliott.fi/?lang=en < 1373642220 226597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sorry, that's not at all "exciting -- in the world of esolangs".) < 1373642303 236533 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one is elliott? http://www.houseofelliott.fi/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/etu_2013_11.jpg < 1373642320 545226 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.elliottsurveyors.co.uk/background.html < 1373642355 509583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I think the one with the hat. < 1373642490 679878 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://heh.fi/tmp/elliott-is.png < 1373642539 710475 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notethe location stated in my link < 1373642571 659417 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: nice < 1373643062 203260 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373643207 138326 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have thoughts on http://torso.me/chicken? < 1373643225 100172 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: chicken chicken. < 1373643323 537570 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh and a reminder to anyone who doesn't know/remember: I'm a WSJ reporter working on a potential story on esoteric programming languages. Feel free to DM me, or email me at jsvine@gmail.com if you'd like to chat privately.) < 1373643390 145861 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken < 1373644221 296193 :matthiaskrgr!Matthiaskr@uk.v6.cloud.panicbnc.co.uk PART :#esoteric < 1373644286 397375 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken is a run of the mill 10 instruction stack language that achieves humor and silly-ness by denoting instruction i as i chicken's followed by a newline (AFAICT) < 1373644478 398988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that oerjan's thoughts on chicken are: "lovely" < 1373644493 455236 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized that the word "florin" strongly suggests the color pink to me. < 1373644495 651487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The topic was broached on channel 2013-07-02.) < 1373644550 731294 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicken is like a poultrified whitespace < 1373644557 307602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how funny the language was, but the interpreter was nice. < 1373644593 578271 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some word for some shade of pink that begins with the "flor" sound? < 1373644653 628860 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess fuchsia begins with "f". < 1373644714 968913 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do "fire engine red" and "fluorescent" anything. I think it's fair to say that fuchsia is the effiest color. < 1373644761 612504 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps youconnectit to floral < 1373644785 289984 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds likely, except that flowers aren't necessarily pink. < 1373644937 573423 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always associated the musical note F with pink as well. < 1373644947 853699 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then G is green. I guess the reason for that seems pretty obvious. < 1373644980 316678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fcolor of 25 images says the color of "florin" is #756156. < 1373645008 105208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Most of those images were of coins, and then quite a few of Florin Court, the building that's the fictional Whitehaven Mansions where Hercule Poirot lives in the TV series.) < 1373645017 837703 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is like a dark blue. "Cobalt", I guess? D is also green. E is a lighter blue. < 1373645028 116700 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is yellow, and B, I dunno. Black? < 1373645737 894721 :comex!~comex@ec2-54-225-4-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1373646144 192808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: Did you write that report? < 1373646274 80646 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which report? < 1373646309 20722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: The one about esoteric programming. < 1373646339 222956 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Ah, no, got pulled off into another project. Now back and continuing to research. < 1373646377 246447 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp__: For my unlearned sake, could you explain "run of the mill 10 instruction stack language"? < 1373646388 27495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have any questions I will try to answer them (or possibly, others can try, too). < 1373646590 271009 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. I'm mostly trying to figure out the narrative. I'd really like to get "the human factor", e.g., someone trying to write a complex program in Piet, or some esolang-programming competition, or someone trying to puzzle through the complexities of creating a new esolang... < 1373646644 962695 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me see if I have something... < 1373646679 658473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try looking at some of Chris Pressey's stuff, possibly < 1373646704 340515 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are wondering about creating a new esolang, that is < 1373646751 295614 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: not sure what this is about, but here are some languages I found nice esolangs.org/wiki/User:AnotherTest/Notable_Language < 1373646778 459885 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, thanks. I've been in touch a bit with Chris, but I'll pressey him again for more details < 1373646840 891673 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Thanks! I like that list. < 1373646863 283760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, look at INTERCAL. < 1373646878 59995 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: see the list of instructions at http://torso.me/chicken-spec < 1373646927 69302 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp__: Ah, helpful! < 1373646930 57434 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the usual variety of stack manipulation instructions; arithmetic, load/store, input, output < 1373647076 944960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few esolangs (although not the ones in that list) are uncomputable, such as Gravity and TwoDucks, as well as some others. < 1373647131 373600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When inventing esolangs, we don't normally care about the things that you should normally care about when inventing a programming language. < 1373647149 761947 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also write each of brainf*ck's 8 instructions with 1 to 8 chickens followed by newline, and presto, you have a new language "chickenf*ck" < 1373647182 490782 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right and that's part of what I find so interesting about esolangs < 1373647253 902659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: Yes, I do too. < 1373647270 746698 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1373647541 731497 :jsvine1!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373647566 418734 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373647604 188836 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373647609 111725 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1373647719 153306 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1373647779 222638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you look at the list of ideas? < 1373647858 945441 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1373647860 525666 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1373647867 162043 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1373647867 162222 :itsy!~digital_w@79.60.112.87.dyn.plus.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1373647867 162304 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1373647867 162452 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1373647867 162530 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1373647880 216310 :jsvine1!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which list of ideas? < 1373648007 654381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1373648115 29610 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1373648150 993506 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook! is an example of a language that's just a thin syntax veneer layer over Brainfuck < 1373648208 934392 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's shocking is that such languages make it into articles like http://net.tutsplus.com/articles/top-10-most-bizarre-programming-languages/ < 1373648405 581939 :jsvine1!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. I think I'll want to note that a whole bunch of the silly esolangs all belong to a single family, and that the innovation there is in humor rather than computer science. < 1373648476 203960 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1373648532 561796 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1373648532 830373 :yiyus_!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1373648547 439394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is it. < 1373648561 9334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However , the list of ideas is: http://esolangs.org/wiki/List_of_ideas < 1373648664 57214 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1373648665 821690 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1373648680 787893 :jsvine1!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, that's great. I'm hopping out to lunch in a second, but will read this when I get back. < 1373648692 529381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1373648734 245416 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1373648792 851371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : all this pen stuff in the backlog is reminding me of http://artisanalpencilsharpening.com <-- is that supposed to have an innocuous splitup as well, because i cannot see it. < 1373648816 740381 :jsvine1!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1373648846 486102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it has "anal" in it. but I think it's rather higher-concept than that. < 1373648909 845523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1373648963 702975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of that modern mainstream junk theory that art _should_ be disturbing i assume. < 1373648999 263262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *postmodern < 1373649053 746517 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1373649124 942584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :angkor. < 1373649162 513895 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373650388 944222 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "artisanal" is a word < 1373650553 313615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1373650630 147403 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1373650795 143211 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373651107 511181 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-167-22.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373651162 584926 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1373651171 544038 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What ever happened to the Esoteric Awards? http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esoteric_Awards < 1373651202 258447 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much brainfuck equivalents? < 1373651205 584453 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I don't know < 1373651211 384115 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-56-53.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1373651213 67324 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-167-22.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1373651438 847916 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn artis < 1373651440 186675 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "artis". < 1373651779 472441 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373651824 491476 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-22.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1373652090 52130 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1373652498 118135 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1373652626 74088 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373653954 184635 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1373654007 111419 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1373654630 816278 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/94d571eb3fe44125c6475b11e752da81/tumblr_mifzfvSJkG1qiyf4wo1_1280.jpg < 1373655060 478273 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373655451 250997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn artsd < 1373655452 593840 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "artsd" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1373655452 799307 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :ArtsD < 1373655452 799387 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: an honorary arts degree [syn: {Doctor of Arts}, {ArtsD}] < 1373655501 192564 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1373655506 963963 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. < 1373656009 770679 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373656082 232152 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested < 1373656255 180273 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PART :#esoteric < 1373656348 788837 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1373656918 235668 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi how is the featured language selection process going < 1373657014 285297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um nonexistently < 1373657035 715302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is danish on the list < 1373657042 17704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1373657074 896226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp bin/{empty,l}list < 1373657083 349508 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1373657089 283750 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373657090 621888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo danish >> bin/llist < 1373657092 766970 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but I assigned you to it! < 1373657093 873714 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1373657096 297124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1373657105 988063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I assign you to fix 183. < 1373657278 606137 :itsy!~digital_w@79.60.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373657352 811471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1373658438 815917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:46 -!- #rust You must have a registered nick (+r) to talk on this channel (#rust) < 1373658444 976709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :'( < 1373658500 901325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i have to register on random irc things now < 1373658510 52814 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cabal < 1373658515 382549 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"art is anal pencil sharpenings" hth < 1373658532 485100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was jsut temporary. < 1373658540 641323 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, have you noticed, there are very few men's belts at most stores with size <32 < 1373658556 216364 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite the fact that I think most men have waist size <32 < 1373658578 652651 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems the prior of 'needing a belt' shifts the distribution substantially < 1373658615 951106 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My main belt (getting a bit old now) actually had an extra hole put into it for me < 1373658636 723029 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I recently bought another main belt, so to speak. < 1373658639 155035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :main is not usually a belt < 1373658672 591720 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I would say that tall and skinny people need belts more but I am perhaps biased < 1373658686 773021 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Fiora < 1373658695 329176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i have put holes in belts on several occasions < 1373658698 817957 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what else is main? a function? pssh < 1373658700 986805 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PART :#esoteric < 1373658716 105473 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be ridiculous < 1373658723 456451 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373658775 432610 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :belt :: IO () < 1373658873 948914 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to get ice cream and also beer < 1373658926 139024 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next think you'll be telling me there's a belt called _start < 1373658931 332423 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing, even! < 1373659104 112841 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: my guess is that maybe there's few small ones because the small ones sell first < 1373659129 66368 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, good thinking < 1373659134 740079 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just like with jeans, like, last time I remember shopping for them there were so many more of the larger sizes, like 7-9+ < 1373659142 829266 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the smaller sizes had much smaller stacks < 1373659230 433885 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1373659266 518174 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373660003 7227 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there would be smaller stacks, probably < 1373660013 233132 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of the belt selections I saw had labelled stacks! < 1373660026 502550 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :anywho, to catch bus thing < 1373660155 127293 :epicmonkey_!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1373661030 915585 :Taneb!0262ca17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.98.202.23 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1373662690 328670 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1373663194 564018 :nooodl!~nooodl@132.151-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1373663262 32298 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would HIGHLY recommend the humble weekly sale this time. It includes Avernum, one of my favorite game series of all time, also one of the first series I ever played. < 1373663274 386128 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The windows only installments work fine under wine for me. < 1373664495 288772 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373667937 196905 :itsy!~digital_w@79.60.112.87.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1373667970 474321 :nooodl!~nooodl@132.151-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1373668647 408608 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.152.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1373668651 172884 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, been ages since I seen a game with a color depth option. It also says that 32 bits is "for newer PCs". < 1373668675 415266 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait what, this game was released in 2009? Heh < 1373668878 786728 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep has a 16-bit/32-bit color depth option, and that's pretty recent, I think < 1373668882 589612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bizarrely enough... it's on the PSP. < 1373668931 629403 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1373669028 354858 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, well the game I'm looking at is a Spiderweb Software RPG. They don't follow conventions when it comes to this stuff. Avernum 4 (released in 2006 on PC) has a old style blue background installer for example. < 1373669066 333240 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, anyway I'm surprised a console/handheld game has graphics options at all < 1373669089 196493 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's a very bizarre exception < 1373669096 713303 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What need is there? They can know exactly how it will behave, unlike a PC where there are thousands of configurations. < 1373669107 343594 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has a CPU speed option, too < 1373669109 886825 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not hundred of thousands < 1373669113 887460 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can pick between the stock 200mhz and the battery-eating 333mhz < 1373669120 375562 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1373669151 229096 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My phone runs faster than that unless it is at the lowest frequency < 1373669161 260970 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PSP's like, 10 years old now though XD < 1373669189 405902 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? I thought it was more like 5-6 < 1373669209 39762 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... let me see < 1373669220 836711 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it was released in japan december 2004 < 1373669224 952351 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so um... 8.5 years? < 1373669241 992529 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have a quad core S3. IIRC it have steps of 100 from 200 MHz to 1.4 GHz with a few odd steps of 150 near the top or some such < 1373669245 776767 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1373669282 857522 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is steps of 100 < 1373669350 902956 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also an overclocking step of 1704 MHz listed in the ROM setting thingy. (I'm using PACman which is a mix of CM, Paranoid and AKOP, though I believe this section is from AKOP) < 1373669831 270943 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1373670076 647409 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1373670112 912158 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1373672108 931676 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1373673035 484619 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~devdatta/papers/alice-in-warningland.pdf < 1373673140 599528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, what of it < 1373673338 333110 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just thought it might interest you. it's empirical data on how many people click through security warnings. < 1373673452 806622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it "all of them" < 1373673485 948873 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, more like a third or a quarter. < 1373673497 375783 :doesthiswork!~Adium@75-172-20-209.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1373673507 336559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are like the really big THIS IS EVIL MALWARE warnings, right? < 1373673538 344986 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1373673551 33342 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-171-252.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically mostly browsers' "yo you're getting phished dumbass" warnings < 1373673559 185113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS WARNING IS EVIL. CLICK THROUGH IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE