< 1374109013 260473 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1374109648 607020 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374109734 184433 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-53-233.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374109810 92434 :Bike_!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1374110130 654077 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374110215 204905 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1374111623 891127 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.141.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1374112573 34882 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374115284 285949 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374115300 451715 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374115333 64340 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HexChat has taken to crashing for no reasons < 1374116589 935618 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1374116833 330571 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374116860 596008 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374117048 78800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheetos with chopstick seem like it could be good idea certainly. < 1374119083 593075 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374119676 668703 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374119712 373174 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame HexChat < 1374119967 273196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of what? < 1374120480 320355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1374120564 231707 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374121690 712198 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1374123176 466768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HexChat of Hexham. < 1374123614 182548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean what you blame them of? < 1374123718 142706 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1374123744 179469 :tertu!~TeruFSX@184-97-252-250.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374123779 209060 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374123959 771346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the dictionary coder which is using a fixed dictionary? < 1374124691 366880 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:ae81:12ff:fe32:878a QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1374125565 327068 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1374125741 419555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If using a static dictionary with overlapping strings, would it help to precompute some table involving the overlapping information? < 1374125807 443366 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help what < 1374126631 118530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it not understandable? < 1374126671 983450 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what is it you want to help. < 1374126739 135934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, maybe I am unclear. < 1374126747 286845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean to help the encoding algorithm. < 1374126824 624095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I guess a simpler way, but maybe a slightless compression, would be to make the order of how long each one is and then search and replace starting with the longest entries. < 1374126861 645415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the specific case I am using it is Z-machine, so it isn't actually that simple, although that might be good enough. < 1374127074 11656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i too interpreted what Bike said as "help, what" < 1374127097 453705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, too < 1374127098 258888 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :understandable < 1374127114 673329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, even i, can play dead < 1374127159 25757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The response is the same either way, as it turns out, it means what I wrote isn't understandable < 1374127172 733834 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/ this is kind of cool < 1374127177 25030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: somehow still finding sand in my shoe < 1374127182 382305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yeah < 1374127186 131979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: or, rather, between my toes, when i put the shoe on < 1374127188 274285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still finding sand in my bed < 1374127198 764206 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you two go to the beach? < 1374127204 123751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1374127305 356107 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esandteric < 1374127327 83704 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imagining a receptionist at the JPL whose job is to point very precisely at where the probe is. < 1374127378 532054 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1374127429 666699 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :34 and a half light-hours, huh. wonder if we'll ever pass that. < 1374127501 613280 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like, the probe passes the record every second, doesn't it? < 1374127546 148984 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different probe, i meant :/ < 1374127558 59482 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, probably New Horizons? < 1374127583 76748 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's on an escape trajectory too < 1374127588 746570 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I think it'll be a bit slow < 1374127596 19181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I thought you meant whether humans will ever get that far from earth < 1374127598 500884 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*slower < 1374127614 82211 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess that's a question too < 1374127616 760214 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather farther off though < 1374127642 51484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that one in particular is probably far :/ since there'd be no point in sending humans that far unless like, you're going to another star system < 1374127645 344173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: If you do, try to make sure not to damage things too much in other solar systems and even in the stars themself < 1374127655 295344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1374127657 745874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would probably take too long to get there anyways. < 1374127658 14514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will do < 1374127669 797643 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't play golf on proxima centauri < 1374127701 170076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the lore... right, the alpha centauri spaceship gets launched in 2060 < 1374127721 384883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1374127733 463374 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't alpha centauri also start after a global conflict nukes earth. < 1374127735 606386 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we like not do that < 1374127741 506608 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374127749 47213 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... yeah. I think we shouldn't do that < 1374127774 754685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's settled then, no biosphere destruction < 1374127785 399067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you should play golf on a star. < 1374127799 4009 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1374127807 994837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it won't work. < 1374127818 60958 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how unimaginative. < 1374128446 720925 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the difference between the Oxford Idioms Dictionary (of English) and the Oxford Dictionary of English Idioms? < 1374128466 871375 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first is $25 with 10,000 idioms; the second is $15 with 6,000 < 1374128509 119590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them is fiction. < 1374128639 416967 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the former sacrifices depth for quantity? < 1374128648 719988 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is meant partly for ESL purposes. < 1374128773 584739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (10000 / 25, 6000 / 15) < 1374128774 380539 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (400.0,400.0) < 1374128777 598010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1374128794 157502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well played, Oxford < 1374128802 504267 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1374128822 145357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the Oxford Dictionary of Euphemisms, but I don't know how many euphemisms is in it, and I can't remember how much it cost. < 1374128838 767165 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: at least rounding to 1-2 sigfigs < 1374128860 454235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says £8.99 RRP $14.95 USA $17.95 CAN in the back. < 1374128863 667086 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? those are both even divisions... < 1374128875 797857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oxford dictionary of dysphemisms < 1374128876 333648 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean it's $24.99 or w/e < 1374128887 904168 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and not exactly 10000, etc. < 1374128895 182912 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is still coincidental... or is it < 1374128924 879584 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway important stuff: what does this channel think of the soliton model of action potentials!?? < 1374128934 58671 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1374128956 632342 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am looking to generally improve my idiom fluency < 1374129010 551145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading Perlis again? < 1374129021 735819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Almost five thousand", in the newer edition. < 1374129029 281682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5000 / 15 < 1374129030 83229 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 333.3333333333333 < 1374129039 270768 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, not so much (and that's about proglang idioms anyway) < 1374129042 487066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get less euphemisms per dollar than you do idioms. < 1374129050 289484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: What, the Shakespeare bit? < 1374129055 377773 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1374129079 79746 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :although surely I've absorbed that into my ethos, as with all of the epigrams < 1374129093 212041 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, if you want a more direct motivation, watching talks given by SPJ. < 1374129102 590380 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :that are posted on YouTube < 1374129180 947656 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374129348 851339 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he use weird idioms? < 1374129380 935946 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :just very salient < 1374129395 592785 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :appropriately, i don't know what you mean < 1374129405 546385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DM has defined some esoteric sorting algorithms, none of which are suitable for general purpose applications, and some of which don't even work at all. Some of them result in a different multiset of output than the input is. However, it seems some of them may have a use in some specialized applications. < 1374129533 157556 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no real way to become more proficient with communicating things precisely, but for me, I often find phrases on the tip of my tongue when trying to do so (and occasionally botch them) < 1374129555 291901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking scotch out of a mongodb mug again < 1374129610 311768 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :livin the dream < 1374129633 415754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :listening to Röyksopp < 1374129637 17508 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Considering that it is possible to procedurally create any string of binary digits and we can then translate that into letters, numbers, and any other given symbol that can be encoded, we can go create every possible string which would then reveal to us every possible statement/arrangement of symbols that might possibly be factual." < 1374129649 498460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::bonghit noises: < 1374129669 40634 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do companies have some weird compulsion to give out mugs/shirts/stickers/etc in the bay area? < 1374129682 444357 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that is how you market to developers? < 1374129683 551532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cheap way to advertise < 1374129689 524130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not just a bay area thing < 1374129734 816988 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but there is a strong third factor that causes companies to be here and companies to do such adverting < 1374129739 112528 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they do that at every conference thing ever < 1374129768 108045 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting fact, as there are more sheep than people in new zealand, there are more google-branded pens than there are people in california < 1374129816 547795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose Dropsort and Abacus Sort might sometimes have some uses if the program needs the data modified in such way. Abacus sort may be used in mechanical applications, I suppose. Maybe it is possible to use dropsort in mechanical applications too. Intelligent Design Sort is one that just assumes the data is already sorted and doesn't change it. It might be useful in some applications too! < 1374129819 763963 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might also be that I stopped paying attention to jobs at school right around when this kind of craze got into full swing < 1374129823 518286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what do you think about the fact that the invention of digital information processing happened at about the same time as the discovery that living things on Earth are based on digital information processing < 1374129842 640007 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't understand the premise o_o < 1374129872 479944 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :..digital? < 1374129879 774785 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :in organisms? < 1374129894 128355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, base 4 < 1374129894 394387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose any program that requires a sorted input and doesn't check may be considered a kind of "intelligent design sort". < 1374129914 378214 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNA isn't really "digital" in the same way electromechanical computers are in any sense that is nontrivial < 1374129934 876116 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I'm not entirely sure about DNA being the whole story < 1374129935 143964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can call it "discrete coding" or something < 1374129945 717894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and clearly DNA is not the whole story about how living things work < 1374129964 541877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are some really significant parallels < 1374129966 956176 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 'whole story' in any meaningful information processing sense < 1374129993 177064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly the fact that it's easy to make lossless copies of digital / discrete information < 1374130028 707633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the fact that portions of DNA code proteins that control DNA transcription and translation makes it more like a stored-program computer < 1374130038 472610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's a more indirect analogy, and was discovered later < 1374130138 635003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is RNA and various other things too, but DNA is some things. < 1374130156 592356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't really argue with that < 1374130158 505579 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374130161 837196 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But someone did manage to almost make a "Hello World" program with DNA. < 1374130163 985377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1374130174 972089 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the discoveries seem to be more a result of increasingly rapidly improving technology in general, rather than academic confluence < 1374130195 240375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe so < 1374130213 308216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The problem is it uses Q instead of O. The DNA which encodes O is usually a stop code; I do not know in what circumstances it isn't, or how to make it do such a thing) < 1374130258 997022 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit more interesting is the CNS, which is a bit analog. < 1374130271 940277 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374130284 274322 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374130294 194363 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the coevolution of proteins and DNA/RNA is incredibly interesting, though < 1374130299 668539 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid computer. basically i'd say computers and genetics are only both based on "digital information processing" if you stretch that term into uselessness < 1374130305 902466 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usefulness. < 1374130313 76572 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need that dictionary gracenotes < 1374130333 452155 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use... I... it would suck that's what i mean < 1374130340 503990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not processing but storage and reproduction at least < 1374130352 388894 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the bit about retroviruses < 1374130358 374897 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's important not to overstate what DNA does < 1374130383 612371 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a thing that is easy to transmit to offspring without much degradation < 1374130389 620229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1374130393 528213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I've been saying... < 1374130404 559503 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :life has many, many aspects that aren't "digital" like DNA is < 1374130410 267268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1374130415 100052 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, with heavy degradation, just not of the important bits < 1374130417 508011 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1374130427 194356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are a thief of joy < 1374130447 67358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that where my joy went? < 1374130453 879673 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an example there's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_oscillation which is neat < 1374130472 187454 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame kmc for not putting it in your favorite terms < 1374130484 39281 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing itself, not the wikipedia article which is kind of terrible, oops < 1374130511 559617 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make complexity classes for life < 1374130513 706038 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now let me check the logs so i don't annoy kmc more < 1374130529 513733 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and clearly DNA is not the whole story about how living things work" whoopsie < 1374130560 960611 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so, lemme latch on to "also the fact that portions of DNA code proteins that control DNA transcription and translation makes it more like a stored-program computer" a bit < 1374130601 520730 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with this as i imagine you know is that beyond the central dogma, the expressed proteins don't really form a "program" per se < 1374130617 283226 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, there's a reason turing back in the day expressed relations between enzymes with differential equations < 1374130664 111874 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it's a stored program computer in that you have a fairly immutable "source" that is expressed into an active "program" but that's about where the analogy ends, you know? < 1374130671 345887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1374130700 88414 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you've got these things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_regulatory_network < 1374130715 252740 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i'm not really sure how you'd phrase in a programmy way, though it could be interesting to do so < 1374130727 657529 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an interesting hypothethical assignment, as well, something like 'Here, I want an enzyme that helps catalyze this reaction, I'll allow you 2 ATP; I want the DNA code on my desk tomorrow' < 1374130743 556987 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1374130756 461625 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess to start with you'd have to design the protein < 1374130768 67024 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you have to come up with an amino acid chain that folds into it < 1374130768 871057 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Also, inhibit it according to density of the product using pH' < 1374130775 607407 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably NP complete, if not impossible :< < 1374130792 803067 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's okay, I'll give you a few millenia; brute force it < 1374130800 76244 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1374130824 380001 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh as long as i'm on this that reminds me that i've been thinking of the CNS and stuff differently lately < 1374130824 621739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i read #haskell logz < 1374130841 353887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well getLine :: IO String contains a thunk that when evaluated reads characters of a line from standard input < 1374130847 996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in case you were missing out < 1374130847 536638 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the best channel < 1374130849 685402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close yet so far < 1374130863 344581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hey so did they fix the "non-allocating threads can't be preëmpted" bug in GHC yet < 1374130869 275621 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you consider evolution as a kind of generic, idiotic (in that it doesn't know anything about the problem space) optimizer, you can consider the CNS (and also adaptive immunity~) as specialized fairly generic optimizers that work on somatic time instead ok nobody cares. < 1374130871 151075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1374130871 418848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking about this with some other Mozilla Research people today < 1374130884 932503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah that's a neat view < 1374130887 77041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust threads are coöperative, right? < 1374130895 422818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's some of that in The Extended Phenotype < 1374130903 462547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes and they are only preëmpted at syscalls, I think < 1374130905 875308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the semantics or just the implementation? < 1374130909 893771 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are certain parts of the immune system that have hyperfast genetic mutation < 1374130910 161503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1374130912 899468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :concurrent haskell allows either, after all < 1374130915 581728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has explicit yield < 1374130920 403883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :though no one really uses it?? < 1374130929 251346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the semantics of Rust threads don't include shared mutable state, really < 1374130941 969827 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think 9/10 times i've seen "thunk" in this channel it's been about getLine < 1374130946 27257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think I used explicit yield sometime < 1374130988 329252 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs thunk < 1374130990 205674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I was wondering about the virtues of a scheduler like GHC's, that knows about the HLL abstract machine state, vs. just running your HLL compiled code on top of a ISA level coroutines library < 1374130999 91707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. do you save STG registers or do you save x86 registers < 1374131000 162779 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: who'da thunk it (stupid thunkz joke) < 1374131005 290870 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1374131008 544325 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: CNS is essentially a generalized learning architecture < 1374131012 32093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a compelling reason not to do the latter, other than it being a ton of work to switch? < 1374131020 647700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it would solve the preëmption problem < 1374131024 397677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28703 < 1374131038 750950 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is interesting. the more general it is, the more data it takes to learn, but the smarter it is. < 1374131048 773393 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: well, really you have to consider the peripheral nervous system too, i mean you can do conditioning in the "dumb" parts of the nervous system < 1374131053 332360 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also reflexes and all < 1374131078 44552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it solve the preëmption problem? < 1374131088 798091 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. there is, so to speak, specialized learning cortex < 1374131122 183337 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :much lower plasticity < 1374131123 254375 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also people are good at learning weird things like how to play Guitar Hero and not other weird things like group theory, in general < 1374131126 738809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: best cult imo < 1374131134 815219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's easy enough for some watchdog to force a Haskell-evaluating thread to stop; the problem AIUI is that if you've stopped on some arbitrary instruction you can't recover the abstract machine state in order to context switch it < 1374131151 200053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that at allocations because allocations might garbage collect and the GC needs to know about roots anyway < 1374131183 278974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can't really stop at arbitrary instructions anyway, can you? < 1374131186 972160 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :« oerjan: so I don't have to do the Haskellian "thunks stub themselves out with {return value;} upon evaluation"?» seeing half of this conversation is really weird < 1374131213 60429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: another OS thread can do it with ptrace(), or you use SIGALRM or something < 1374131223 509572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mid-thunk-update or something. At least it doesn't seem obvious that it's safe. < 1374131225 116019 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also sorry for being annoying >_> < 1374131228 62263 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to async exceptions happen? checked in some common code (like unknown function application, e.g.?) < 1374131231 20686 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :*do < 1374131235 399976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i still <3 you < 1374131242 137205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is asyncc exception formed < 1374131253 129272 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :how thread get suspanded < 1374131255 847019 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel less than threed < 1374131286 726650 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1374131310 773613 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, really, they need to do way instain throwTo, who kill her target, because target cannot frigth back < 1374131326 889964 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will stop while I am well behind. < 1374131353 652116 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1374131366 556988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :send pocky < 1374131383 897413 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find stupid internet stuff funny < 1374131423 755168 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger badger < 1374131445 590757 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example: http://reddit.com/r/supershibe < 1374131453 167287 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is with that damn dog < 1374131453 968051 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1374131499 715518 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/3UVbLfV.png me irl < 1374131539 418505 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/VKT21lx.png < 1374131568 29047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/sb/1.png is me < 1374131576 106446 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: is that like a line from something < 1374131597 388143 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it's in the snowclone-meme ether < 1374131602 215216 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"to do way instain" rings a bell < 1374131631 434467 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from "how is babby formed" < 1374131683 696594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love snowclone-memes < 1374131684 808621 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have met shachaf irl and can confirm he looks like that < 1374131685 345799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so easy < 1374131698 46921 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hasn't that been done before < 1374131713 971608 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: how does he do the transparency < 1374131721 887738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: yes "thats the point" < 1374131732 685913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: trade secret < 1374131743 444731 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shachaf an apng < 1374131783 795706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ape-ng < 1374131787 278681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than y'all regular apes < 1374131865 491481 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/jY77iIKh.jpg < 1374131917 310040 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that comic sans with drop shadow < 1374131919 224697 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo beautiful < 1374132040 444696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with people claiming that things are great because they're vaguely similar to things named after category theory without actually understanding what they're talking about? < 1374132068 767283 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as? < 1374132079 598238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People on Internetwebsites. < 1374132084 424110 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how clear-looking C++ functors make my code look? < 1374132090 926989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should quit reading Internetwebsites. < 1374132123 389939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling Gracenotes was terribly bored during bacat today. < 1374132147 742810 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's uh, assocation bias or something, isn't it < 1374132152 605151 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did get tired for a bit of it, because of general sleep deprivation < 1374132170 676165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing bookexercises is admittedly not the most exciting thing... < 1374132174 689626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should've done some. < 1374132175 225853 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have gotten more out of it if did the exercises, though < 1374132180 315074 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this thing [category theory] is cool, so this other related thing [ProFunctorsX Enterprise Edition] is cool" < 1374132209 861844 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nobody understands what anybody is talking about ever, fyi < 1374132232 952899 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Quit: sacje < 1374132322 500725 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I will be attending maybe ICFP, but perhaps rather just the Haskell bits, but maybe everything < 1374132377 295372 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will learn about the best profunctor to apply in my enterprise coding < 1374132383 729215 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: You will? < 1374132405 26071 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan on it, basically < 1374132410 120000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I attend? < 1374132426 874347 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1374132454 207350 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the list of projects here: http://www.systemsx.ch/projects/research-technology-and-development-projects/ they're practically all WhateverX < 1374132456 83105 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I would enjoy it based on watching lots of Haskell talks on the internet primarily < 1374132469 506831 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PhosphoNetX < 1374132480 284009 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :although enjoyment may be selection bias related < 1374132487 22519 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much does attending ICFP cost, anyway? < 1374132499 121055 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's a PDF. < 1374132508 58617 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :this much http://regmaster3.com/2013conf/ICFP13/register.pdf < 1374132509 133080 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1374132541 803000 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a bit... they have to rent out the space and provide free food to attendees < 1374132544 991025 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not actually free food < 1374132550 123932 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cofree food < 1374132556 709638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in that you pay for it) < 1374132565 820656 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that site has a typo in its search result < 1374132618 129975 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of the inflation is because attendees don't pay for it out of pocket, but rather often by their institution. < 1374132621 346742 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they have one < 1374132665 767276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you email them and tell them your institution isn't paying for it and so they should give you a discount? < 1374132667 103989 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, usually only if they're presenting, for academics at least, or it's very obviously work-related < 1374132674 610043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. can your institution pay for it? < 1374132683 527929 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find an institution to pay for you < 1374132687 70692 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1374132717 190982 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can print out a name badge and wear it < 1374132735 827058 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1374132947 980118 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I really have no idea how this stuff works < 1374132955 784611 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hearsay < 1374134157 970183 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374134629 851214 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1374135297 287219 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374137896 269321 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374142142 382716 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1374142304 990138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1374142920 409136 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-krqrhkkvgfqiuopk QUIT :Changing host < 1374142920 655506 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1374142920 655619 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host < 1374142920 655677 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-krqrhkkvgfqiuopk JOIN :#esoteric < 1374143064 211167 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374143361 125170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1374144005 672246 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374144185 664986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1374145663 926278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : well played, Oxford <-- are you saying they get paid by number of words? < 1374145896 753897 :nooodl!~nooodl@12.100-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1374145913 434068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask kmc drinking scotch out of a mongodb mug again <-- is it a humongous mug twh < 1374146165 433952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1374146170 221970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask kmc drinking scotch out of a mongodb mug again <-- is it a humongous mug twh < 1374146170 427463 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1374146398 372326 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1374146627 885245 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374146761 370320 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374146761 639694 :kallisti!~eris@168.28.136.16 QUIT :Changing host < 1374146761 845679 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1374146921 964897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a WEBSCALE mug. < 1374146939 942026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1374148227 234941 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-252-250.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374149229 348273 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1374150796 421168 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1374151631 423935 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1374152669 710760 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-252-250.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374153612 848048 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374154564 436163 :tertu!~tertu@h66-173-127-171.mntimn.dedicated.static.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374155966 475789 :`0x00!x@0x00.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1374155994 532012 :`0x00!x@0x00.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION licks ion up the face for no particular reason
< 1374156710 982393 :tertu!~tertu@h66-173-127-171.mntimn.dedicated.static.tds.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374157161 989786 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374158459 30581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1374159526 96102 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1374159637 428442 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374160477 33235 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1374160870 306005 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1374160912 503559 :heroux!~heroux@5070823C.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1374161243 767876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1374161488 174022 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1374161703 346441 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1374163884 182666 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1374163942 159798 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1374164523 749606 :nooodl!~nooodl@12.100-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1374164643 18629 :nooodl!~nooodl@12.100-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1374165089 142947 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers." sounds like it's trying to be funny... I wonder how that's funny < 1374165098 238343 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: apt-get moo < 1374165129 566065 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(software)#Easter_egg I think ? < 1374165140 352789 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :also last line of apt-get help < 1374165141 487059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ols-ner moo < 1374165171 662894 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sha-haf moo < 1374165358 857302 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1374165369 121939 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there it is... and now that I think about it, I never did figure out what the difference between apt-get and aptitude is < 1374165514 446034 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aptitude is another interface basically < 1374165523 771036 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :different features and dependency resolution < 1374166610 353021 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1ijr21/til_when_coming_to_power_in_january_1933_the_nazi/cb58ov6 < 1374166614 857758 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... reddit < 1374166653 790360 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pity it wasn't in /r/bitcoin, it's a perfect MEANWHILE IN) < 1374166734 710910 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile in 1933 < 1374166950 806646 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374168302 840105 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374170683 211990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fact: Any sentence starting with "Fact:" is probably bogus < 1374170704 350384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan no, ordinary size < 1374170704 618589 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1374170741 848170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1374170788 254107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1374170835 895082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1374170858 871134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proof: crush. Qed. < 1374170893 221153 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is shachaf never going to give the second line again < 1374170904 105423 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1374170908 933043 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that line is for you to give < 1374171068 397232 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-50-108.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1374171174 808181 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374171329 648082 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1374171837 154282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, indeed, quite "fun" that the factorial of 0 is 1. < 1374171856 190547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie doesn't know the second line? < 1374171858 867813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we need the second line. < 1374171863 149941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Go for it. < 1374171866 745743 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1374171871 268272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the second line. < 1374171873 456939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "fun" is SML for a function definition. < 1374171876 559108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog shachaf.*fact.*= < 1374171885 519333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-03-27.txt:00:19:48: | fact n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1374171893 372350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was thinking it'd be something like that. < 1374171893 679186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks HackEgo < 1374171895 6108 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo. < 1374171901 36428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.angelfire.com/tx4/cus/pl/ctm_aml_01.html < 1374171915 581931 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot the ; < 1374171931 704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's because I don't know SML. < 1374171932 343843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess it's actually a separator, not a terminato < 1374171933 147494 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1374171935 176499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second line was your job. < 1374172144 931703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have some ideas about a alternate syntax for 6502 assembly codes? I have had the idea too, but I wasn't complete. < 1374172148 981412 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.242.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374173031 39851 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374173589 245097 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374173897 496699 :raineys!~raineys@70-91-56-173-philadelphia-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1374174252 950854 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1374174269 723705 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The controls I prefer on a PC platform game is left and right shift keys to move, space bar to jump, and ZXCVBNM,./ to shoot. This is a bit unusual, but it is what I prefer. Do you have preferences about it? < 1374174892 619122 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374174931 109337 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1374175104 269027 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasd 4 lyfe < 1374175157 337736 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374175455 282647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of shooting keys < 1374175460 909823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they all shoot the same thing < 1374175475 801151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you running around holding 9 different guns < 1374175582 16008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I am < 1374175594 137400 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the american way. < 1374175595 597451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1374175969 307528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kmc I sense a great lost opportunity < 1374175969 575321 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1374176151 496864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1374176925 825143 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I am really bad at watching sad movies < 1374176930 560782 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm crying my eyes out at Batman < 1374176952 888370 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the point < 1374176956 650616 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of sad movies < 1374176967 568613 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like *good* at watching them? < 1374176979 102585 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like crying at movies at least, it'd be less fun if I didn't < 1374177001 607382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They all do the same thing. < 1374177042 744058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo crying is good but crying at movies is bad because the manipulation etc. is usually so obvious < 1374177047 837674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by bad i mean i don't like it so much < 1374177051 91526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pharaoh's Tomb and Arctic Adventure use a superset of these keys; the arrows keys can also be used to move and the F key also shoots. In addition, it can be configured to use the CTRL and ALT keys to move left/right (you can switch which one is left and which is right). < 1374177074 55104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that reminds me, what's with restaurants and shops that play music < 1374177086 372674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here while you're waiting in line for a burger maybe you'd like to hear a song about extreme emotional trauma < 1374177096 780091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Bad is that you are crying and cannot listen to movie or other audience can. < 1374177172 492047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo crying at books is better than crying at movies #snobz < 1374177215 918330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Crying at books is bad too you might get the pages wet. < 1374177272 47187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you read ebooks < 1374177347 888499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you will get the display wet. < 1374177393 906753 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the display can take it! it's a manly display < 1374177413 544870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience women are at least as waterproof as men < 1374177443 513882 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :manly waterproofing < 1374177482 816010 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :going around spraying people with buckets of water to judge relative waterproofness < 1374177670 288773 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs37/i/2008/267/c/c/PLATYBELODON_by_Sk00tie.jpg < 1374177702 65890 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. < 1374177737 281439 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1374177957 498758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1374178117 335934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Not when you have bulgarian cheese! < 1374178120 346725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or superpowers. < 1374178176 713898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is so confusing shachaf < 1374178193 756002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what superpowers does bulgarian cheese man or woman have < 1374178320 451409 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1374178513 269244 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374178966 501372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I have an Internet connection that corrupts a lot of packets. < 1374178975 754674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I download things reasonably? < 1374178978 174627 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1374178988 707522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a better internet connection, hth < 1374178993 309170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example I'm trying to apt-get this 0.5MB file. < 1374178997 981636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps failing. < 1374179004 7862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe BitTorrent over UDP < 1374179009 407686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one of the other UDP-based file transfer thingies < 1374179013 559367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't try to send the file in order < 1374179313 687885 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374179510 982797 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374179609 308958 :`0x00!x@0x00.me QUIT :Quit: like a gypsy an shit. blaQ_MAMBAR < 1374179806 736302 :raineys!~raineys@70-91-56-173-philadelphia-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374180554 765086 :atrapado!~dd@95.169.242.94 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1374180623 439931 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Excess Flood < 1374180654 513262 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374181046 974614 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: attn http://www.theonion.com/articles/fbi-offering-1-million-reward-for-any-information,33157/ < 1374181102 776135 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :their real motivation must be trying to improve their subterfuge < 1374181112 40516 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, the who's really good at dishonesty? a cheetah < 1374181262 807511 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1374181963 924776 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1374182664 234576 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374182790 428199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/rust/blob/master/src/rt/rust_debug.h#L23-L27 < 1374182885 707668 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :signal(SIGTRAP, SIG_IGN) what does that do? isn't signal assigning a function pointer? < 1374182890 534655 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, is SIG_IGN a function? < 1374182920 483434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Special Value. < 1374182939 181501 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says... it should be ignored...? < 1374182947 509284 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you raise a signal that should be ignored o_O < 1374182958 12257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should get ignored. < 1374182968 466067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tends to break in a debugger, though; that might be what it's about. < 1374182974 943190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also possibly under other circumstances?) < 1374183214 374358 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374183309 811904 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374183789 491275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my bio in CthulhuMUD any good? It seems like really strange compared to everything else. < 1374183808 821697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: How should I know? I haven't seen it. < 1374183858 76583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JfRh < 1374183873 968373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :JfRh < 1374183902 363151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/JfRh < 1374183923 489205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the line wrapping is no good in this file, for one thing. < 1374183932 85699 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this breakpoint doesn't seem very awesome < 1374183979 644585 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374183984 777722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What breakpoint? < 1374183998 227510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one kmc linked < 1374184007 938877 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374184052 31434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I make any spelling mistakes other than the one I have already corrected? < 1374184104 981654 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the male mi-go migo scientist"? < 1374184122 790348 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what's with the comma in Gknqwvonqtunkznbcvjbaklsrgjhqpwetypqwrkzbxncv,bakdlgqweprthpahdskznxvkljqthw < 1374184123 896732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made a breakpoint in VisualBoyAdvance with something like that you simply get a infinite loop < 1374184162 612853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The first three lines are typed by the computer; I asked why it says "the male mi-go migo scientist" with the word twice and inconsistent hyphenation; they don't know why either. < 1374184175 737033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think on the whole I enjoyed Batman Begins < 1374184183 13150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should remove the comma, I suppose, though. < 1374184266 829274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I cannot change the line that says "the male mi-go migo scientist". The reason it is repeated is because one is a profession, but I don't know why it is inconsistent. Probably it would improve if they fix it to add a flag to a profession that tells it to not be repeated. < 1374184271 444205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that isn't up to me. < 1374184280 657322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third line and below is the text I typed in. < 1374184288 455646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, below the third line. < 1374184295 301563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The third line is made by the computer.) < 1374184361 312042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gknqwvonqtunkznbcvjbaklsrgjhqpwetypqwrkzbxncv,bakdlgqweprthpahdskznxvkljqthw" looks like a spelling mistake to me. < 1374184389 645069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes it is; the comma is wrong. < 1374184407 264295 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the rest of it. < 1374184413 786063 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a proper noun! < 1374184431 818016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch < 1374184527 567309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It says "O no", but it means "Oh no". < 1374184533 233013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe "Oh, no". < 1374184584 283755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that mean I put the comma in the wrong sentence? < 1374184600 10068 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it means you used "O" which does not mean the same thing as "Oh" < 1374184611 436155 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i doubt you're trying to address No. < 1374184638 732259 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :O Bike < 1374184676 511668 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1374184777 213431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I am trying to address Yes. < 1374184788 71919 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you should put "O yes" < 1374184791 98958 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :O Yes rather < 1374184812 984305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say I am trying to address Yes; I said maybe I am. Actually I am not. < 1374184821 580020 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1374184834 973751 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you sure got Bike. < 1374184841 575904 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.5787 http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.3960 < 1374184862 332175 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiora these look scary < 1374184894 212315 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :summary of the first: the r-process may occur in ejecta from neutron star collisions, depending on the masses of the stars, the impact, the equation of state, etc, and this will have a very measurable effect on the afterglow spectrum and can be detected < 1374184899 464198 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second: we found one!1! < 1374184914 673533 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything else good or no good about what I wrote? < 1374185027 60329 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-52-6.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an r-process < 1374185096 750272 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapid neutron capture process, so like, when you have iron atoms in a supernova < 1374185110 546708 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the supernova neutron flux causes atoms to capture many many many neutrons before they have a chance to decay < 1374185120 237845 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's just so many neutrons < 1374185120 773457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like an abb. for a random process. < 1374185124 100491 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapid < 1374185149 432268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very irritating when you have a slow connection that web standard/browser/whatever says that you can't see the page until things have finished loading. < 1374185186 877447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such that a page stays un-readable for minutes, but as soon as I, say, get disconnected, all the text show up immediately. It was there all along, but waiting for things to load. < 1374185193 531044 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh, it's more than just that < 1374185196 482791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A