< 1374451987 430936 :Jafet1!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1374453039 63447 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374453060 472464 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1374453605 85386 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374457669 642595 :Sgeo!~quassel@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rewatching Who's on First < 1374457680 378840 :Sgeo!~quassel@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering that there is actually someone who calls himself why... < 1374457739 448923 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that sketch is based on people with names like Hu < 1374457740 579092 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1374457774 29564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike's on first < 1374457782 739336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is baseball played on bicycles < 1374457785 749121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it isn't < 1374457792 280342 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bicycle polo, bicycle baseball < 1374457797 198827 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it follows logically, shachaf < 1374457800 59246 :Sgeo!~quassel@173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I did not realize that < 1374457822 258877 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you should, bicycle baseball is a noble sport < 1374457932 99414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i acquire a mölkky thing < 1374458474 281104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mjölkchoklad < 1374458566 590131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://preview.tinyurl.com/mecrh3h -- oerjan < 1374458822 71757 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1374459058 901697 :Sgeo!~quassel@173.3.78.166 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374459271 170852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i get a "preview" thing showing a data: url. my browser refuses to follow the actual link to that. < 1374459279 630905 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1374459284 421038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a better browser hth < 1374459369 910600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some other time hth < 1374459380 511988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is never an other time < 1374459415 158478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with sufficient laziness time can be infinite < 1374459428 510927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you infinite < 1374459439 871221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone who is infinite < 1374459451 282145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not you < 1374459458 200953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know yet, ask me when i've finished evaluating < 1374459492 981002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coöerjan < 1374459497 950810 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1374459506 161013 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :coœ̈rjan < 1374459511 113234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coø̈rjan < 1374459525 800914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1374459589 271068 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :coœ̷̈rjan < 1374459614 620312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: my terminal renders the solidus through the r < 1374459619 31422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the intention, is it < 1374459632 151864 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not. < 1374459651 881133 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about oœ̷̈r? < 1374459663 545027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still through the r. < 1374459680 315796 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the ¨ is over the œ? < 1374459775 581641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the second example the ¨ is over the r. < 1374459785 561182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, in the first example too. < 1374459785 761755 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374459792 371035 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1374459810 981312 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374459811 211794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But note that when I select and copy the æ, the two combining characters come along with it < 1374459851 331136 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What terminal is that, btw? < 1374459885 883558 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@92.241.250.196 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1374459893 952296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome- < 1374459916 151334 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Works in mine. < 1374459920 431307 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the plural of "solidus" < 1374459928 330971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you know "Kubb"? < 1374459933 391787 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: Kubb < 1374459938 241689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Number Kubb"/"Bex Kubb"/whatever. < 1374460064 641221 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1374460065 421209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kubb the wood block throwing game? < 1374460070 301224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that one. < 1374460076 751303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION never played it himself
< 1374460084 691527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose self did you play it? < 1374460099 601705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i saw someone playing it this spring. < 1374460115 701842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well afair < 1374460115 961827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: As far as I can tell that's the same thing as "Mölkky". < 1374460120 881280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now you know. < 1374460122 792284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1374460220 171409 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've played kubb once and it wasn't very fun imo < 1374460259 261580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's exactly the same, different shapes of blocks < 1374460269 726247 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of it is the psychological aspect where you realize < 1374460273 641569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohwait was it the version with the numbers < 1374460276 431331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/oh// < 1374460281 151660 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm literally throwing wood blocks at wood blocks < 1374460285 752492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are multiple things called kubb < 1374460291 741759 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you live with that < 1374460299 381486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i played was fun < 1374460306 391347 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :my kubb was non-numbered < 1374460317 491761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well (english) wikipedia has a mölkky article and a kubb article. < 1374460319 11609 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was this kubb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubb < 1374460322 731952 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a parakubbist < 1374460367 322514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i was wrong then!! < 1374460373 971949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1374460376 501692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1374460381 903481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1374460390 782850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yny < 1374460421 631427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well number kubb sounds like it would be different, and mölkky has numbered ones < 1374460469 61711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1374460477 171998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Bowling < 1374460520 221877 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i declare the finnish one to be the best hth < 1374460536 672006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1374461149 272663 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-245-98.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1374461267 842746 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374461837 153542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1374461849 112616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1374461850 513569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes to what < 1374462250 463097 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1374462364 123070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mölkky < 1374462428 793392 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1374464581 825802 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1374465105 325028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnite < 1374465380 785984 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374465457 704530 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374465461 165021 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 1: http://pastebin.com/TyV4Eqpa step 2: http://pastebin.com/kKn0mNNA step 3: http://i.imgur.com/FX3fAd7.png step 4: http://pastebin.com/WG0mSe6L < 1374465462 875130 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone solve step 4? < 1374465473 54721 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1374465484 235572 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1374465643 724720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do on my birthday < 1374465654 585485 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my puzzle :D < 1374465660 884860 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: happy birthday! < 1374465665 95061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my birthday < 1374465673 514911 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1374465747 525184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you mafingre or whoever they were? < 1374465749 409781 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1374465802 590439 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374465873 884505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you banned or something? < 1374465874 125017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was that only in the other channel? < 1374465877 536859 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other channel < 1374465957 546593 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1374466012 494114 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1374466272 349424 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374466325 849522 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1374466330 30754 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1374466368 490415 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1374466395 62112 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1374466416 498157 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone solve the puzzle of fuck my internet connection < 1374466483 625710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1374466511 867640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the solution is run irssi via mosh hth < 1374466536 495034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh work < 1374466648 491765 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/NWe0rTYc <<<< python script I came up with to try test some shit out < 1374466687 886284 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does python even have bigfloats < 1374466714 810720 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1374466791 33196 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you don't even use the values. < 1374466973 334124 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so which of the clues points to DES3 dlackili < 1374467008 179947 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: ECB mode? < 1374467021 106410 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1374467032 46117 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_cipher_mode_of_operation#Electronic_codebook_.28ECB.29 < 1374467045 346886 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow amazing < 1374467117 562317 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1374467151 685862 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i googled "ecb" "voldemort" while solving it and < 1374467152 678539 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.be/2009/04/ecbs-lord-vortemort-policy.html < 1374467163 918038 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the wizards in Harry Potter afraid to say "Voldemort" the dark lord's name, the ECB is afraid to speak of deflation. < 1374467178 716326 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1374467187 157564 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was using DEFLATE (gzip) instead of that :') < 1374467202 436221 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: did it work? < 1374467207 333127 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't < 1374467223 606401 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you use the integral value? < 1374467230 631758 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't. that's why i got stuck probably < 1374467278 441398 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dlackili: seriously, you realize most of the digits of that aren't going to be used, right < 1374467422 947140 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: in my program, ik < 1374468446 286411 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1374468652 707630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am playing ADOM and managed to get my PV down to negative 1275. < 1374469048 838170 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374469522 420073 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374469547 587117 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you play any other roguelikes? < 1374469683 736894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes. < 1374469760 921601 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1374470298 648676 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which ones have you played? < 1374470556 191085 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1374470592 51312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: turns out maybe i have a mölkky thing in WA < 1374470592 421088 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1374470594 383146 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i do < 1374470599 129331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374471439 809395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have it mailed to you, i guess < 1374471471 649330 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Do you think it could be DES? < 1374471482 438863 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DES uses 16 byte or 24 byte keys < 1374471492 598767 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IamLordVoldemort < 1374471501 228615 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.212611IamLordVoldemort < 1374471544 28783 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've already seen the solution (what happened to the - by the way?) < 1374471562 108402 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: What is the solution? < 1374471602 859711 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i was talking about i saw the python script you pasted < 1374471615 138788 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: That is not the solution :P < 1374471629 198741 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: it might be bce < 1374471636 220735 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the 'tom marvolo riddle' part being an anagram as well < 1374472133 741376 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1374472236 252633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'racenotes < 1374472282 34639 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck I have too many hobbies < 1374472382 539168 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong chanel < 1374472661 309579 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374473610 220637 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: nope < 1374473843 972400 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374474951 300600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when is your birthday < 1374474992 571152 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometime this week < 1374475174 500528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1374475179 261911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy preëmptive birthday < 1374475220 980396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the opposite of a coöperative birthday < 1374475224 553770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1374475326 333394 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1374475647 323856 :dlackili!dcfdcefc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.206.252 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1374476169 904163 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, what color ceramic mini-teacup/teapot combination should I get? < 1374476181 890830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :invisible < 1374476186 922622 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red, Carrot, Mandarin, Lime, Turquoise, Marine, White, Gray, or Black Graphite? < 1374476216 458897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure carrot/mandarin/lime are color choices < 1374476222 83557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sound more like food choices to me < 1374476236 407493 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular http://www.forlifedesign.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12_47&products_id=34 < 1374476253 302475 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the colors even have three letter codes < 1374476281 741744 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you're not asking which one *I* would get. < 1374476350 772017 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well which one would you get, and why? < 1374476432 467406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly we gotta say why? < 1374476437 479800 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1374476453 738271 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :invisible. so that you can't get snuck up on while having your tea party. < 1374476495 943393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Draw a noughts-and-crosses board, sometimes also referred to as a tic-tac-toe board. Do not fill it in with noughts and crosses, sometimes called exes and ohs. Instead, use curved arrows. By drawing more lines, make it a board for four-by-four (instead of three-by-three) noughts and crosses. Wave your hands about in complicated patterns over this board. Make some noughts, but not in the squares; put them at both ends of the horizontal and ... < 1374476502 18974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :... vertical lines. Make faces. You have now proved: < 1374476504 452277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) the Nine Lemma < 1374476507 48705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) the Sixteen Lemma < 1374476509 460975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(c) the Twenty-five Lemma < 1374476512 82677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(d) that four-by-four noughts-and-crosses is a simple two-person, zero-sum game < 1374476514 954978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e) that 3²+4²=5² < 1374476517 494672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f) that square-dancing is for squares" < 1374476522 923388 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1374476531 871062 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374476549 858390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the nine lemma is rather creatively named, isn't it < 1374476571 7570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_lemma < 1374476572 193205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_lemma < 1374476574 351578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1374476576 66673 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, why would you get the color you didn't want to say you got? < 1374476582 382551 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :*would get < 1374476597 483157 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :*if you were to get a color < 1374476649 111262 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i should figure out what a kernel is outside of linalg. whatever < 1374477965 994082 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1374478965 926312 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1374479072 987301 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374479394 319482 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1374479876 219351 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374481945 767387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you noticed that both $a^n+b^n=c^n$ and $n^a+n^b=n^c$ share a property? The property is for integers a,b,c,n with a>0, b>0, c>0, n>1, there are infinitely many solutions when n=2 and no solutions when n>2. < 1374482240 96883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The second one is much easier to prove; at least I think it is; I have figured out a proof myself but haven't seen any elsewhere) < 1374482264 405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(However, it is a informal proof, not a real proof.) < 1374482309 851229 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1374482450 275983 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374482821 325697 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1374485805 72096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've seen a proof for the n^a + n^b = n^c, n>2 thing somewhere, possibly in a book about the Fermat thing. < 1374486725 809798 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1374486762 81858 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1374487647 442181 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1374488402 141962 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374488911 110632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking that you can write it by place value, in base n; in the left, either a=b so one digit is 2 and the rest 0, or two digits are 1 and the rest 0; on the right, one digit is 1 and the rest 0. Therefore it doesn't match. In the case n=2 there is no digit "2" so a=b will carry to the next position. < 1374488963 405864 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not seen the proof, but I have seen it mentioned under the name "Fourmi's Well-Tested Conjecture". < 1374489045 553115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this the correct proof or is it a different one? < 1374489339 102522 :apeiron1!~juanmanue@221.218.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1374489356 985592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you remember anything about that? < 1374489551 3169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the proof I saw (if I saw one) was like that. But I don't really remember. < 1374489583 252175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what the other proof would be. Do you have any idea of a proof? < 1374489842 801436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you prove it? < 1374489998 530088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the "Fourmi" name comes from the Gödel, Escher, Bach book, where it's kind of a Fermat pun. I don't think it contains a proof. (It might be that I'm just confusedly remembering that.) < 1374490018 142689 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Official Trailer from Comic Con | SWOOSH http://youtu.be/NeVCR1qfMaU < 1374490023 575405 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does come from that book, and yes, it doesn't contain a proof. < 1374490257 589793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also don't know if Hofstadter came up with n^a + n^b = n^c or not.) < 1374490810 101981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The internet seems to claim that a paper by Orts Aracil, J. M.; A conjecture concerning Fermat’s last theorem (in Spanish). Mem. Real Acad. Ci. Art. Barcelona, 34, 1961, 17–25; is about it. Another book -- screen capture at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130722-orts.png -- quotes this. < 1374491941 630370 :apeiron1!~juanmanue@221.218.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es PART :#esoteric < 1374495389 660131 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1374495448 981965 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1374495606 450315 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1374495681 223892 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374495681 518106 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1374496368 967651 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shachaf “It has sometimes been suggested that half pi should be called hi, and written τ. Explain why this idea was not discovered until recently.” < 1374496369 225869 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1374496423 213542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1374496526 775546 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1374497738 783371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (c) the Twenty-five Lemma <-- huh, http://mathoverflow.net/questions/4562/is-there-an-infinity-infinity-lemma-for-abelian-categories < 1374497765 260326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf (c) the Twenty-five Lemma <-- huh, http://mathoverflow.net/questions/4562/is-there-an-infinity-infinity-lemma-for-abelian-categories < 1374497765 559949 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1374497891 262565 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374498154 410528 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1374498633 558367 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374502229 410850 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374502843 540563 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374502854 90500 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374502931 552703 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374503347 482675 :oleg!~oleg@host-static-92-115-42-25.moldtelecom.md JOIN :#esoteric < 1374503391 259745 :oleg!~oleg@host-static-92-115-42-25.moldtelecom.md QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374503503 471498 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1374503967 7532 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1374504107 816422 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1374507302 325958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1374509416 117430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (903) < 1374509419 880595 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (903): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1374509656 157106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Jafet < 1374509884 867883 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374509931 60875 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1374510814 583500 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1374511934 421487 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374512984 989620 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1374513967 73143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning all < 1374514002 771365 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD MORNING < 1374514010 407335 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just "hi" < 1374514031 462303 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good meowrning < 1374514131 113952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`morning kmc < 1374514132 202358 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: morning: not found < 1374514808 153892 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1374515394 550593 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1374515429 992427 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1374515443 968115 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1374515451 526004 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1374515865 622404 :nooodl!~nooodl@211.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :photoshop joke: why do they call them "photoshop filters" if they're really more like "photoshop maps" < 1374516072 157663 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy pi approximation day *adjusts glasses, pocket protector* < 1374516140 742718 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're a qtπ < 1374516168 570186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Fiora, Bike
< 1374516195 708345 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something up? < 1374516240 263176 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://image7.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/products/18541668/views/1,width=378,height=378,appearanceId=277/QT-pie-ladies.png this is great < 1374516302 371989 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have picked a different font < 1374516310 661191 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to continue the "nerd" aspect here) < 1374516610 479043 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/13c2422860ee58525968c4c6f95acdb9/tumblr_mq90stNdwB1sumj40o2_1280.jpg the heck is this guy < 1374516651 114068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I just like hugs < 1374516687 788508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's good too < 1374516694 446532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like hugs on special occasions < 1374516699 188813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hugs make every occasion special < 1374516702 727329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it works out < 1374516709 648931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1374516719 234479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you understand < 1374516758 343102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Qt/QtMobility demo titled "do not call me cute". < 1374516802 386248 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I read that Qt is supposed to be pronounced cute < 1374516820 774710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it is, yes. < 1374517253 872614 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374517320 951778 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today was fun < 1374517973 599325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do? < 1374518584 402467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, these BALINESE MUSICAL SYMBOLs are great. < 1374518731 110970 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-129-102.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I went to a small anime con < 1374518933 450455 :AnotherTest!~AnotherTe@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1374519909 966991 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374520130 213699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, Pin crashes on rust programs < 1374520146 865683 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to write a Pin tool to track down bad refcounting < 1374520154 59621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a silly approach but an excuse to learn Pin < 1374520400 136353 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS PIN?! < 1374520432 567936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/pin-a-dynamic-binary-instrumentation-tool < 1374520513 376171 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a front-end to the several-dozen debug registers intel archs have these days? < 1374520539 696698 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :or several hundred, I'm not sure < 1374520551 451960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1374520568 539407 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :a high-level front end, that is < 1374520581 396311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it has anything to do with debug registers < 1374520635 395757 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides being called an "instrumentation tool", it also says it uses instrumentation < 1374520665 415903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a native-to-native code JIT compiler that lets you insert instrumentation calls anywhere in the code < 1374520679 986744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the thing the Intel SDE uses? < 1374520683 758365 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to explicitly invoke it, then < 1374520697 79223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the framework behind valgrind's tools < 1374520706 278251 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does valgrind JIT? < 1374520717 438664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you run it on a normal binary and say "call this function every time you execute an INC with a memory operand" or whatever < 1374520721 553798 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a competitor to things like Systemtap (but more userspace-oriented, I suppose) < 1374520736 769149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yes < 1374520740 417795 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, there's like that valgrind.h thing that you can use includes from to make valgrind do things < 1374520752 306987 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I had no idea... geez, I thought it was so slow, it couldn't be JITing xD < 1374520772 118394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slow because it tracks two bits of metadata for every bit in memory < 1374520802 111235 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eesh < 1374520818 388200 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on how much analysis you want done < 1374520845 258040 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting tho < 1374520858 726756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure it has much to do with Systemtap either < 1374520873 610497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or valgrind.h < 1374520907 203216 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :where would the INC example be useful? unless you pulled it out of nowhere < 1374520915 349780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wanted to write a Pin tool to track down bad refcounting < 1374520941 638600 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1374520978 698552 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh. the SDE *does* use Pin < 1374521030 624544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that is, the default Valgrind tool (Memcheck) tracks two bits of metadata. like Pin, Valgrind is a framework for dynamic recompilation with instrumentation, and supports a variety of tools < 1374521060 97040 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense... is itsomething that you can like, use, without writing a massive valgrind tool or something? < 1374521068 102537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is which < 1374521069 197352 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you mentioned just tracking some single custom thing < 1374521072 139231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, valrind < 1374521081 653490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how hard it is to write a custom valgrind tool < 1374521098 326661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not hard to write a Pin tool and I've heard that Pin is generally better and more capable < 1374521103 338193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, it's not open source < 1374521178 85420 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1374521451 19248 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374521838 449436 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/gopher.jpg < 1374522293 178883 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd prefer being a gopher to being a protocol, i think < 1374522337 769235 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could go pher being a gopher? < 1374522364 389195 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes Fiora < 1374522367 478467 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could go pher being a gopher < 1374522384 299856 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was literally trying not to make a gopher it joke. < 1374522497 520151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should have gone pher the gopher joke before fiora went pher the gopher oke < 1374522512 94790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no good at pherring, Bike < 1374522549 522222 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean. < 1374522565 9818 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like... it's not a verb, man. < 1374522599 196574 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's *not* like not a verb? < 1374522600 60172 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike you are the best person < 1374522616 766281 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also elliott, see! I helped you not make a gopher joke < 1374522618 237874 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by making it for you < 1374522624 663188 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also better at toing than elliott is apparently < 1374522628 49444 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mark of my bestness < 1374522704 259766 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're both the best okay < 1374522717 59767 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's the best at being cute and you're the best at going pher terrible puns < 1374522736 197932 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even a pun < 1374522739 777121 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a wentpher < 1374522745 971936 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(about five pounds) < 1374522875 780060 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1374522913 690845 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have to ask, you'll never know < 1374522927 801828 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I googled wentpher and found https://twitter.com/jasonisnice/status/184560408173101057 < 1374522983 380049 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuc < 1374523042 791964 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :staypher < 1374523086 130729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gopher the puns, staypher the nonsensical rambling that follows < 1374523939 903291 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374524254 393106 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374524297 783943 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1374524607 913148 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple months ago this o'reilly book called "understanding computation" came out, its been pretty good for filling in gaps of my cs knowledge < 1374524671 654487 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only read the first chapter on formal semantics so far though < 1374524813 993959 :raineys!~raineys@70-91-56-173-philadelphia-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374524964 325528 :raineys!~raineys@70-91-56-173-philadelphia-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374524967 23379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1374525001 203064 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinda semantics < 1374525096 683164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :formal ones < 1374525218 811081 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/C17-Vortex.JPG gosh wikipedia has the coolest photos < 1374525229 465553 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374525234 618653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: It looks happy. < 1374525246 270843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also kinda derpy. < 1374525263 343692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1374525268 634024 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/DN-SD-06-03008.JPG < 1374525286 447540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peacekeeper-missile-testing.jpg was also a very impressive Wikipedia photo, if a bit... disturbing... if you stop and think. Maybe. < 1374525299 205905 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/C27_SPartan_making_condensation_spirals.jpg it looks like someone got string stuck on the propellors < 1374525313 583253 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh geez, yeah. that picture is terrifying < 1374525598 52807 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how long is the exposure? are we looking at like the last second before the nuclear apocalypse or the last 10 minutes? < 1374525633 826836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does say explicitly "long exposure", so... pretty long? < 1374525760 104177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would think not ten minutes, though?) < 1374525767 390492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The exif tags don't say. :( < 1374525786 234751 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did exif tagging even exist back then? < 1374525870 305519 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374525890 36227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source gallery doesn't really even tell when it was taken, sadly. < 1374525940 387096 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1374525966 363382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Peacekeeper" is quite a name for a missile.) < 1374526350 916760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone either has or hasn't read nineteen eighty-four before naming that. < 1374526378 272362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless there's an even more precise reference < 1374526401 846222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutually assured destruction, dood < 1374526450 602761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: [[ The new ICBM missile was originally planned to be called "Peacemaker", but at the last minute was officially designated the LGM-118A Peacekeeper. ]] < 1374526457 640941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "Peacemaker" is even more ominous. < 1374526466 176588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pacemaker < 1374526614 307126 :raineys!~raineys@70-91-56-173-philadelphia-panjde.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1374526630 732041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway nuclear weapons "kept the peace" only in that they caused war to get outsourced to poor countries that don't have nukes < 1374526759 336860 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1374526862 66733 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sometimes do, like india~ < 1374526955 598487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Category:Commons featured widescreen desktop backgrounds -- They are therefore likely to be good desktop backgrounds (wallpaper) -- DefecatingSeagull.jpg" yeah, I... I don't think so. < 1374527295 788921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they're just talking gullshit < 1374527462 672055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a photo of Angela Merkel. I mean, there was nothing wrong with the photo, but I'm a bit unsure how many people would make that a desktop background. < 1374527613 148478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what should I make using Pin? now that I know how to do stuff < 1374527654 628776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sorts of things does Pin let you do < 1374527690 194100 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswetf < 1374527715 618791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you see my investigation of character widths in #mosh the other day < 1374527722 679151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://software.intel.com/sites/landingpage/pintool/docs/58423/Pin/html/ < 1374527724 429348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1374527750 469861 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out wcwidth() is broken for unicode 6 "or something" < 1374527754 799301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1374527762 79566 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in my libc < 1374527767 899649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe mosh should ship its own wcwidth < 1374527798 734044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I think so < 1374527807 672339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have at least one pull request open with an implementation of same < 1374527820 870266 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely looked at how tmux does it and it looks like it has a little table of character widths < 1374527842 50240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's stopping it from being pulled? < 1374527861 149558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : [...] but I'm a bit unsure how many people would make that a desktop background. <-- was it that famous picture of her dress with a lot of cleavage twh < 1374527931 620733 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1374527983 240867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly make it worse < 1374528067 952768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see the `olist before i mentioned it < 1374528131 429979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know; I haven't been active with Mosh code in recent months < 1374528139 819747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think KeithW is often busy < 1374528154 731453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get off my ass and do maintainer things but... < 1374528154 990359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: before you did it in the logs? no. < 1374528163 940075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1374528193 850415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: imo get a donkey and ride it to work hth < 1374528197 753588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1374528199 310724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1374528207 320771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ride a bike < 1374528210 916031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like an iron donkey < 1374528226 910796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the iron donkey would be a good name for a band < 1374528229 409903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a bike < 1374528236 601239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that would depend on how literal you are about "`olist" in that sentence hth < 1374528239 170275 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION resists urge to make jokes about kmc riding bikes
< 1374528252 263888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see the comic update before i mentioned it < 1374528252 664656 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1374528259 99946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1374528261 590508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1374528278 422210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, get off your bike and do maintainer things < 1374528521 700481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: :3 < 1374528599 650814 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION giggles
< 1374528606 470955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"About 41 million donkeys were reported worldwide in 2006" < 1374528608 331085 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1374528615 170898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are there so few donkeys in the world!! < 1374528620 550800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were they reported for? < 1374528896 909567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading some gecko code now < 1374528903 1564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty nice and clear < 1374528907 543567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know if the whole codebase is < 1374530042 404704 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374530111 453731 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1374530955 826339 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374531103 978302 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1374531144 576255 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1374531157 419921 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374531299 584245 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1374531796 717468 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/9709094v1.pdf < 1374531803 527668 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The only known effect on the later nuclear burning is that substantial destruction of all elements heavier than helium via spallation reactions can occur if the final plunge has an appreciable radial component (Bildsten, Salpeter & Wasserman 1992). The predicted amounts of spallation are substantial and basically turn the accreted matter into hydrogen, helium and a mix of light fragments" < 1374531833 829965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this about accretion disks < 1374531852 387463 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Matter accreted onto a neutron star of mass M and radius R releases GMmp/R ≈ 200 MeV per nucleon" < 1374531869 98206 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about runaway nuclear fusion in neutron star atmospheres, for quasi-repeating x-ray bursts < 1374531890 67791 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's kind of like type 1a supernovae? except, like, they don't blow apart the star or anything < 1374531964 789885 :Guest70600!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1374531976 287924 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :runaway nuclear fusion in an atmosphere < 1374531977 997414 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds safe < 1374531992 457219 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess, neutron star surfaces? I don't know < 1374532001 347658 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little weird to think about < 1374532028 98240 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is from 97 < 1374532077 157687 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and it was in a book < 1374532082 17799 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Faces-Neutron-Stars-Science-Series/dp/0792351940 < 1374532101 717871 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"darn, no reviews" < 1374532162 637920 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what's "quasi-repeating" mean < 1374532172 328634 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, like, it repeats, but not perfectly regularly, I think? < 1374532191 188454 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, accretion causing instabilities which cause fusion events every few hours might have irregularities < 1374532200 478939 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to like, a pulsar that repeats every 0.018283772 seconds < 1374532214 273271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "I guess B.o.B. was right." mean? < 1374532261 450352 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1374532285 739602 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1374532323 838488 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically like, you have an accretion of some amount of stellar mass every second with some hydrogen/helium fraction and so on < 1374532353 538728 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and based on parameters they want to figure out how stable the fusion of hydrogen/helium on the surface of the neutron star is, and if it isn't stable, how long until an instability is reached and it "flashes" < 1374532373 643981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what sort of energy it'd produce, what relation it has to the neutron star's properties, and so on, so like, astronomers can search for them and stuff? < 1374532381 688590 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1374532409 718364 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wack. < 1374532433 779170 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. neutron stars do in fact have an eddington limit o_O < 1374532451 538557 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a what now < 1374532461 108475 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Eddington luminosity, also referred to as the Eddington limit, is the maximum luminosity a body (such as a star) can achieve when there is balance between the force of radiation acting outward and the gravitational force acting inward. The state of balance is called hydrostatic equilibrium." < 1374532537 958406 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why must octopuses understand hydrostatics more than i do :< < 1374532607 838783 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically like "if it's any brighter it would throw off tons of mass" < 1374532716 101042 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. so like. < 1374532723 409919 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this incredibly bright fusion flash that we see as an x-ray flare.... < 1374532731 719085 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :diffuses the burning layer of the star upwards by... < 1374532733 390186 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 meters < 1374532749 260389 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very many meters. < 1374532763 943170 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's a lot when your material is like, 100 million tons per cc @_@ < 1374532809 431054 :tswetf!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1374532891 850415 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously this would be good and practical to use for power generation. < 1374532951 379888 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/pdf/0711.4078v2.pdf oooh here's the quasistar paper! < 1374533053 319629 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The key feature of this scenario is that while the black hole is embedded within the envelope, its growth is limited by the Eddington limit for the whole quasistar, rather than that appropriate for the black hole mass itself. Very rapid growth can then occur at early times, when the envelope mass greatly exceeds the black hole mass." < 1374533107 660044 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-192-198.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scaaaaary < 1374533136 589839 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our model quasistars are assumed to be spherically symmetric and in hydrostatic equilibrium. Real quasistars, if they exist, may not obey these strictures, and thus our results cannot be definitive." let us assume a spherical star < 1374533225 599915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a vacuum hth < 1374533243 210331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and frictionless, obviously < 1374533809 386537 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1374533846 633346 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1374533969 522274 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1374534039 67873 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1374534534 53722 :intosh!~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1374535392 275677 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1374535664 561891 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric