< 1375401688 771032 :itsy!~digital_w@46.208.89.101 PART :#esoteric < 1375401690 951869 :impomatic!~chatzilla@46.208.89.101 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212] < 1375401883 714069 :dessos_!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :dessos < 1375402280 893329 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375404430 456205 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In reality, cats do possess the ability to turn themselves right side up in mid-air if they should fall upside-down [...] Toast, however, lacks both the ability and the desire to right itself." wikipedia has some of the most amazing quotes < 1375404466 615793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel the aleged desire of cats to fall right side up should be gone into deeper here < 1375404476 557851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should contribute some quotes like these. < 1375404484 37416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia articles don't just right themselves, you know. < 1375404486 485966 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know for NPOV < 1375404526 756006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay "Toast, however, lacks both the ability and the desire to right itself." has to go down as one of the greatest Wikipedia quotes of all time < 1375404548 837288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That page should be nominated for deletion. < 1375404555 976324 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"running ensembl vep on vcf from gatk unifiedgenotyper; not sensible right?" help < 1375404574 765800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd get the same result from tying two cats or two buttered toasts to each other. < 1375404579 636178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except better. < 1375404586 836299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, really, a better result. < 1375404596 586302 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just doesn't have the same winning combination of animal abuse + breakfast. < 1375404601 856145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This page was nominated for deletion on 2006-03-28. The result of the discussion was no consensus. < 1375404604 955073 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This page was nominated for deletion on 2007-09-03. The result of the discussion was keep. < 1375404640 898203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: oh wow, that toast quote is even cited < 1375404651 439906 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the cite. < 1375404655 911722 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it's cited to mythbustersresults.com. < 1375404668 436969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an extensive and highly objective test the toast showed no statistical preference for landing buttered side-down or up when dropped. It was an even 50-50 split when the final results were compared. However, when pushed off the side of a table, toast showed preference to flip once and land buttered side down. < 1375404677 375946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The citation doesn't say anything about desire. < 1375404688 516457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like vandalism... < 1375404692 96947 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better add a [not in citation] < 1375404694 456441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, desire ~ preferance. < 1375404700 637400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll allow it. < 1375404727 726920 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buttered_cat_paradox&diff=559007493&oldid=557098109 < 1375404733 756832 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that quote should stay for being basicall the best thing < 1375404737 766819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :great edit summary < 1375404742 626389 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, hey, no. Why are you even concluding that what the toast does is indicative of its preference? What if it's trapped with locked-in-to-toast syndrome? < 1375404758 186376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :neds a cite to the journal of toast neuroscience < 1375404763 597817 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1375404765 666707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buttered_cat_paradox&diff=535743465&oldid=535663473 < 1375404777 116159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Rory. Thory. < 1375404786 466273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you nominate things for deletion? < 1375404787 307796 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375404791 536526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I can get oerjan to do it. < 1375404796 330662 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The fact buttered toast lacks cognition does not need to be cited." oh my gosh that edit summary < 1375404800 306693 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot get over that edit summary < 1375404819 886716 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's very short-sighted! panpsychism is a serious theory! < 1375404822 976948 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, toast, lacking both muscles and a desire to orient any particular way, < 1375404830 636804 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointed in this argument tbh < 1375404832 58076 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1375404848 997066 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what about clams on toast < 1375404859 398568 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clams? < 1375404863 317046 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows toast is liquid anyway < 1375404865 506799 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know. mussels. < 1375404869 67418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise how do you drink it < 1375404870 556459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1375404870 756127 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry. < 1375404890 97711 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The output of an [[active noise control]] system which cancels an existing noise, leaving the local environment noise free. The [[comic book]] character [[Iron Man]] used to have a "black light beam" that could darken a room in this manner, and popular [[science fiction]] has a tendency to portray active noise control in this light." The ''[[Batman Beyond]]'' supervillian Shriek also had a weapon like this, which < 1375404898 746840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1375404901 188528 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you being so shellfish < 1375404920 836918 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRIPLEFIN BLENNY < 1375404929 456776 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :triplefin blenny.. < 1375405058 877593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/C%CC%AC%CC%A4%CC%AC%CD%94%CC%AE%CC%BA%CC%8B%CC%84%CC%84%CC%82%CC%93%CC%80%CD%A7%CC%90h%CC%BA%CD%8B%CD%A7%CC%93%CC%8F%CC%84%CD%82%CC%89%CC%93%CD%A6a%CD%94%CC%AC%CD%AB%CC%8E%CD%AD%CC%83%CC%83%CD%8A%CC%8A%C3%AC%CC%9C%CD%94%CC%BC%CD%93%CC%B0%CC%B1%CD%8D%CD%88%CC%B0%CC%8A%CC%89%CD%92%C5%88%CC%A4%CC%83%CD%A9%CC%92%CD%9C%CD%9C%CD%9Ef%CC%AA%CC%B2%CC%96%CC%8F%CD%A8%CC%88%CD%8B%CC%83%CC%9Aa%CC%B4%CC%AA%CC%AE%CD%A7%CC%93%CD%A3%CC%88%CC < 1375405075 110342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buttered cat: Wales’s favourite Wikipedia entry < 1375405075 483298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice it got cut off. < 1375405077 808114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/8867079/Jimmy-Wales-Wikipedia-can-topple-tyrants.html < 1375405136 106922 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this name seems hard to pronounce < 1375405166 267238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this article is deleted I will hew your wife in twain and turn your innards into poisonous snakes. --70.126.190.75 (talk) 01:47, 30 July 2011 (UTC) < 1375405172 437860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks wikipedia person < 1375405299 7883 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think you should take this threat seriously < 1375405360 597309 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375405373 749048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you turn your innards into poisonous snakes? < 1375405382 377852 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :genetic engineering < 1375405390 449315 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1375405450 708463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hugz < 1375406050 329551 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375406134 289090 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erflist 114 < 1375406135 548987 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: erflist: not found < 1375406154 203349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp bin/{empty,erf}list < 1375406157 979130 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375406288 489303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`erflist 114 < 1375406289 690778 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :erflist 114: < 1375406345 649257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone even read error function world < 1375406506 79925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I suppose now you have it there in case anyone does < 1375406565 530671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you read `olist? < 1375406600 940055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No < 1375406615 36930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't read any of these things that you have list for updates < 1375406921 971711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which things do you read? Maybe we should make lists for them. < 1375406993 482924 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375407012 372357 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375407132 261408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really read anything regularly, but I do write Dungeons&Dragons recording. < 1375407185 844117 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1375407196 371455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I read Dungeons&Dragons recording? < 1375407242 481523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1375407293 753804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the DVI compiled of it, and the dungeonsrecording.tex in the same directory which contains macros used for this file < 1375407416 327933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a PDF? < 1375407420 32802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be better for me. < 1375407471 601615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No there is none; if you want that you have to compile it yourself. < 1375407502 611637 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you make one? < 1375407509 872126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, the source file isn't so difficult to read. < 1375407520 64992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I don't have the program to compile it to PDF < 1375407575 802217 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375407607 982333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we are going back to the Boar Head Inn. Some of the chairs are broken, so Kjugobe uses some magic to make up a new chair. He borrows some writing equipment, and writes ``DO NOT SIT HERE PAST THE HOURS OF 6AM'' on the chair. (It seems likely some people will not understand the purpose of this message, ignore it, sit there anyways, and fall on the floor at 6AM when the chair disappears.) < 1375407620 772652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist (416) < 1375407622 163079 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist (416): shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1375407624 262108 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375407929 114215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: who do you play D&D with? < 1375408061 463738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is Also? < 1375408125 734989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, I suppose, Isolde. < 1375408141 115574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZODtmaHIQng meanwhile, on the internet. < 1375408194 14358 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375408407 150392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: They are other characters; those players aren't always in, but they are the people I know. Kjugobe is my character. < 1375408441 653641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The name "Also" can certainly cause grammatical confusion, as it sometimes does) < 1375408517 736697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of story/game? < 1375408520 86965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, Isolde goes back to the castle, and tries to serve the chancellor breakfast with these fertilized eggs, but the guards will not let Isolde to do so. Isolde tries to tell them, ``but, the eggs are hatching!'' Isolde hopes that the guards will take a closer look, and that they will immediately hatch and they will get scared to death; or else they will start laughing, fall to the floor, and trip on their own swords and die. < 1375408538 370538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1375408578 302941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a big file. I can't read it all right now. < 1375408590 525997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's OK. I didn't write it all at once either. < 1375408810 802643 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375409149 345745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can GCC automatically know that (x&4)>>1 and (x&4?2:0) is equivalent and optimize them into each other? < 1375409194 825388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find this and other bitwise manipulation is common in C programs I write. < 1375409241 326835 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can find out what GCC optimizes particular code into easily enough. < 1375409309 566760 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the type type of x? < 1375409351 853605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be any integer type; but maybe some are different due to the CPU instruction set? I don't know. < 1375409424 72456 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :type type, or kind as we call it < 1375409586 76539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :&4?2:0 mask bits everyday < 1375409667 16414 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw have you considered that the halting problem exists and therefore all optimizers are pointless < 1375409698 426366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well give up now < 1375409708 646101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't make optimizers pointless. < 1375409726 407999 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375409733 496057 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even see the connection :/ < 1375409740 346705 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'm sure it's a joke, but < 1375409781 706903 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375409789 759146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might mean that perfect optimization isn't always necessarily possible for looping programs, though. < 1375409811 367368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might (does) mean that < 1375409830 469218 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly: dont use looping program < 1375409834 106691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's funny because this is how people talk about security? < 1375409876 666584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.....not completely sure about the "it's funny" part < 1375409902 566695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you were making that reference? < 1375409914 17045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :along those lines < 1375409945 807019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1375410264 989426 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375410325 167775 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hm the new episodes of that show are coming out in ~1.5 weeks < 1375410376 307144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i watch them as they come out or wait until the end < 1375410397 447799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which show < 1375410408 729435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking bad < 1375410425 527592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen everything thus far < 1375410454 67755 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375410513 428278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched season 5 (I) as it came out and I feel good about my choice < 1375410532 238392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I won't have the restraint to wait until 5 (II) is done to watch it, even if I wanted to < 1375410539 788020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I want to watch with friends and discuss and such < 1375410916 471790 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375410926 199246 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375411438 531085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should strcpy return the number of characters in the source string? I think it might be a useful thing for it to do. < 1375411485 342484 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Ocqueoc < 1375411502 402623 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pronounced OCK-ee-ock. < 1375411518 661327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "Ocqueoc", though? < 1375411533 227336 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's a French word meaning "crooked waters". < 1375411545 232438 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a stream in Presque Isle County. < 1375411553 712269 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I'm sure all of you have heard of. < 1375411636 320509 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of it. < 1375411666 412680 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now you have. < 1375411749 832388 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375411800 465718 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375411800 665752 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375411800 665911 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375412289 205370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375412315 442387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should be a algorithm to generete random UUID? < 1375412348 174510 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) call the microsoft API function 2) done 3) forever < 1375412364 909731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the program will be cross-platform and not only Microsoft < 1375412393 572978 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/ProBirdRights < 1375412406 803470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell olsner HackEgo cannot send private messages hth < 1375412407 14166 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412436 332110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then what kinds of messages is it sending me < 1375412452 885890 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :particularly, https://twitter.com/ProBirdRights/status/342822403690352641 < 1375412456 277123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell olsner I mean, in response to public commands. < 1375412456 488058 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412713 303080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I do not believe it is possible to experimentally distinguish extremely huge finite from infinite hth < 1375412713 540411 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412871 673051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily the haskell weekly news only has a single quote. <-- and it's not even from #haskell! < 1375412871 872738 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412918 182801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily well, I assume. i'd be shocked if knuth showed up there. < 1375412918 382448 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375412944 454694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:30:59 @remember knuth To help the reader drowning in a sea of abstraction, the following example may serve as a concrete life preserver < 1375412948 493803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1375412996 350798 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :knuth, noted computational gangster (frankenstein computer god) < 1375412999 24007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it occurs me that making sea life preservers out of concrete isn't a very good idea. < 1375413034 373768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what kind of sea life you want to preserve < 1375413059 673476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. i guess if you want to feed the sharks... < 1375413060 714249 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet osedax would be happy to have somewhere to root, insofar as they can feel happiness < 1375413103 833979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think a life preserver out of concrete would be good to feed the sharks or whatever else either < 1375413175 411270 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375413231 277917 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375413709 899621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait roujo is here, is that my fault? < 1375413711 306776 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375413717 40898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hi!) < 1375414031 86730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, are we starting to have eerily many quebecois in the channel < 1375414320 338545 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375414367 976074 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375415065 513845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie Please ^save fungot, i fixed a bug in ^prefixes < 1375415065 751853 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1375415065 951514 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it had all sorts of problems < 1375415080 357519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh it wasn't that bad, just a missing space < 1375415080 778171 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.randsinrepose.com/ archives/ fnord/ fnord/ 06/ fnord < 1375415092 317859 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1375415092 517663 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1375415410 821487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : java bot :'( <-- wat, jconn is J! < 1375415429 580616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: click the link :P < 1375415451 608281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh roujo's < 1375415560 899967 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375415629 838631 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375415630 38819 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375415630 38972 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375415746 849305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursula < 1375415748 579760 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ursula? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375415748 999080 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1375415749 198909 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1375415756 259721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1375415758 59233 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ursala ~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1375415777 468840 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375415792 448945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/[^ ]* //' wisdom/ursala < 1375415795 209369 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1375415797 848882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1375415799 288936 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1375415834 728997 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, wh < 1375415839 548891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should just remove `learn if people keep using it wrong. < 1375415911 80264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think there was another broken one recently but i've forgotten which one. < 1375415913 839163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Instead of removing it, require the first character of the argument to be ^O. < 1375415925 780034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way only people who ""know the trick"" can use it. < 1375415932 879339 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today I learned something very strange.  If I take coin from a uniform distribution of biased coins and flip it 3 times, 1/4th of the time it will come up with 3 heads < 1375415941 369189 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_¬ < 1375415969 901386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: erm... < 1375415974 90031 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: as in the distribution of the bias is uniform? < 1375416028 589428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, i think that may require a triple integral or something < 1375416037 559463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1375416081 9523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok if p is the probability of heads then p^3 is the probability of 3 heads < 1375416134 810316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so \int_0^1 p^3 dp = p^4/4 |_0^1 = 1/4, yep < 1375416167 670378 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it generallized to n flips < 1375416187 589362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/(n+1), then < 1375416187 810458 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the probability of any given number of heads is 1/(n+1) < 1375416194 850002 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that works with oerjan's fine. < 1375416197 831218 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375416241 712078 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375416241 952191 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375416241 952341 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375416360 984114 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what the probability of 7 heads in 17 flips of a coin drawn from my collection < 1375416365 632068 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1375416428 350590 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1375416432 841160 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eleven < 1375416439 900260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :balls < 1375416451 672897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how people started welcoming Roujo just after he said he was off < 1375416462 350762 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/18 < 1375416487 780303 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'welcome roujo < 1375416510 261236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: wait, don't you mean 17 heads hth < 1375416522 560793 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just \int_0^1 p^7(1-p)^10 dp right < 1375416531 601855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, is it _any_ single number, huh < 1375416534 572374 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of heads doesn't matter, the probability is the same < 1375416542 890547 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what surprised me < 1375416555 341736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1375416595 153508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except p^n(1-p)^(k-n) is harder to integrate in your head < 1375416595 355333 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so surprising about it, imo < 1375416614 671789 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I'm way too used to fair coins < 1375416630 21328 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it's pretty easy to see that it's going to be 0 for p=0 i think? < 1375416642 51695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: imo what was that thing you were saying about comma categories ages ago < 1375416654 591255 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just look up comma categories < 1375416662 250585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we need the difference between 0 and 1 < 1375416675 30721 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: alt. look up whatever else you want to know about < 1375416677 561358 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375416682 541966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: yes, i just read about them. but why were you talking about them once < 1375416740 572071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory is failing me :'( < 1375416742 410890 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because the formulation of free objects [and other things] i knew at the time was all about a comma instead of adjunction < 1375416759 132939 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the formulation in terms of adjunction is much nicer < 1375416771 717746 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, free objects < 1375416779 997915 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't adjunctions great though < 1375416787 440544 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375416794 397297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i should understand the comma categories thing < 1375416830 824714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how limits are adjoint to diagonal functors? p. great < 1375416838 481876 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375416861 461106 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nlab.mathforge.org/nlab/show/comma+category comma categroy is pretty easy < 1375416910 771103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375416911 631601 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i "got to go" now though "have fun" < 1375416942 72769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bye mnoqy" < 1375417008 401997 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram says the integral involves hypergeometry. maybe it is not right < 1375417602 103608 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375417641 23795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can do it with binomials obviously but what a mess < 1375417693 672675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :p^k(1-p)^(n-k) = p^k + (n-k over 2)p^(k+1) + ... + p^n < 1375417767 955930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/(k+1) + (n-k over 2)/(k+2) + ... + 1/(n+1) < 1375417781 263569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the integral < 1375417822 772133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you just have to show that's 1/(n-k+1) hth < 1375417834 323445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my brain cannot do that right now) < 1375417841 344916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1375417849 823372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1/(n+1) < 1375417869 203354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how can that be right < 1375417892 793341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already a 1/(n+1) _before_ you add the rest < 1375417906 272973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION probably messed up somewhere
< 1375418054 821842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no, it's bike's fault >:) < 1375418110 665512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :p^7(1-p)^10 isn't correct, you have to multiply by the number of possible orderings < 1375418142 884386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a mess though. < 1375418632 205995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "In reality, cats do possess the ability to turn themselves right side up in mid-air if they should fall upside-down [...] Toast, however, lacks both the ability and the desire to right itself." wikipedia has some of the most amazing quotes < 1375418651 235708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375418670 475126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt they actually tested the toast's desire scientifically. there might be a hidden tragedy here. < 1375418696 997906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see: intelligent calcium. < 1375419080 426897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Maybe I can get oerjan to do it. <-- not a chance hth < 1375419136 896628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not even a chance equal to.........0? < 1375419186 426512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: let's not go into quantum teleportation territory here twnh < 1375419680 317422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Apparently it's a French word meaning "crooked waters". <-- ok-dokey < 1375419969 277489 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so multiply by n!? < 1375420030 898736 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, no. wow i'm bad imo < 1375420051 783781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as in https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=45.518647,-115.058205&spn=0.006668,0.016512 ? < 1375420630 250411 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1375420679 499224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, (n over k) < 1375420692 208905 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1375420742 39896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nixon creek, sounds ominous < 1375420785 109016 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, integral still looks nasty. < 1375420875 771176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably there's some trick. < 1375420898 8964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more intuitive argument < 1375421162 405710 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork has abandoned us. we will never know the trick. < 1375421655 422040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1375422523 673344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375422553 173094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was attempting to convince someone that one of the appendices to Lord of the Rings just consists of Saruman attempting to teach LISP to the dwarves." < 1375422852 486487 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok somebody needs to help me understand this formula because it's bullshit < 1375422978 914097 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say f is a function in a field extension with minimal polynomial p(f) = sum of r_n*f^n from n=0 in whatever field. then f' = (sum of r_n'*f^n from n=0)/(sum of n*f^(n-1) from n=1) < 1375423002 233758 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those ^ are multiplication. srry elliott < 1375423483 914663 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_derivative fucking christ i'm doomed. < 1375423737 439309 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't remember getting a public response at all to that command, so I thought it didn't work, but then you responded instead < 1375423984 479057 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kpuikvkjawwpnqyj QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375424037 906724 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujwlrwrvehkuzqqn QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375424144 965737 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news i did some algebra that makes no sense and derived this somehow. fuck everything < 1375424182 836426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how algebra works Bike............. < 1375424256 970128 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean i kind of went "what if i pretended that *five minutes of staring blankly at a wall in sleepy incomprehension* and then did algebra". i don't even know what the nonsensical pretendingness was < 1375424490 845766 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-azdhvicwvwmxtdtl JOIN :#esoteric < 1375425937 203545 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok when i wake up give me an example of an uncomputable continuous function. thx < 1375426261 138574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can make one if you have an integrable uncomputable function. < 1375426400 925064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^save < 1375426401 298676 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1375426415 745039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: REQUEST ACKNOWLEDGED < 1375426460 6731 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375427311 409803 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375427341 440370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1375428584 745571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when are you scheduling the next `olist update < 1375428602 596141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been since sunday or something < 1375428671 374646 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375428720 178198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: later hth < 1375428752 624278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping for sooner than that < 1375429453 447851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1375429983 543325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is IOCCC open now? < 1375430074 138111 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1375430231 469470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the number of entries have a decimal point in it? < 1375430675 352565 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375430740 195393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Life's just a mood ring we're not allowed to see | 22nd IOCCC is open: http://ioccc.org/2013/rules.txt | jsvine is doing an esolang survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q/viewform | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1375431038 291456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare the IOCCC rules with Z-Comp rules. Some people say the Z-Comp rules are really convoluted. What is your opinion? < 1375431105 432312 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kplvglgyzjeqihoy JOIN :#esoteric < 1375431595 962472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375431816 868859 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-azdhvicwvwmxtdtl QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375431879 313254 :Ghoul_!~uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jxgfbenbxhovcjcy JOIN :#esoteric < 1375431910 546239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOCRC: The International Obfuscated Contest Rules Contest. < 1375432196 800037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to make that too? < 1375432424 274077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. But it is logical. < 1375433814 442368 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375433888 580135 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375433920 478256 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375434662 414996 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375437110 558613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1375438522 796817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is consciousness like the roundness of a sphere? < 1375439050 76025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although this sentence begins with the word "because", it is false. -- Douglas R Hofstadter < 1375439153 748169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the meanings of "true" and "false" were switched, then this sentence would not be false. < 1375439856 423723 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375440352 79294 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375440410 359216 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375440607 509837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took this photo from the thing yesterday: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130802-assembly.jpg < 1375440767 81186 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375440803 482405 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375441447 374431 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375441510 336755 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375441608 60885 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375441647 499676 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375442603 984341 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fizzie was at ASM? < 1375442927 109869 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375442966 542526 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375443058 235606 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375443159 724915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Yes; just about to go back there. < 1375443168 368594 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1375443181 823365 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if anyone else from here is < 1375443288 488114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been blabbing about the event yesterday, and at least no-one admitted anything. < 1375443332 732182 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1375443352 481145 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375443377 165069 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375443444 594810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, time to hop on a bike (not Bike). -> < 1375443527 905107 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375443542 156535 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375443737 935082 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1375443738 211499 NAMES :#esoteric < 1375443743 115638 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375443746 119900 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :MBEFDC!*@* > 1375443746 141921 NAMES :#esoteric < 1375443757 956786 :MBEFDC!~PircBot@90.205.93.185 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375443761 841436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously a bot, IP doesn't match anyone in the channel, doesn't appear to do anything, can't keep its connection.) < 1375443774 341038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1375443774 366063 NAMES :#esoteric < 1375443783 116697 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a crappy bot < 1375443937 141086 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375444846 264917 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1375445281 104719 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375445545 402651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peter capaldi is the favourite for the 12th doctor < 1375445575 363279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words fail me for some reason < 1375445638 328946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that guy- < 1375445645 310220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's malcolm tucker < 1375445652 585067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right okay < 1375445664 44544 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1375445664 746001 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also played someone in local hero apparently but i haven't seen that film in ages < 1375445665 584781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1375445682 849060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he's 'the favourite', with all the pinches of salt the term implies < 1375445776 503829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if there's any better evidence than the fevered imaginings of the autistic children bookies use to set the odds for things < 1375446021 258632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Billie Piper, former Doctor’s assistant Rose Tyler, is the only woman listed by Paddy Power to take on the title role after it was rumoured earlier this week that an actress might be in the running." < 1375446027 127032 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :these predictions do not seem credible < 1375446040 48682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375446069 686854 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if davies was still running then maybe < 1375446078 520019 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1375446143 309304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to know the most likely way they'll shake up the expectations for the doctor is... casting an old white guy < 1375446915 223110 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375447271 644647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1375448067 870283 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375448080 910895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good orange morning! < 1375448101 314252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good orange juice. < 1375448214 778637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have experimental proof at our office that bananas are radioactive. we have this fruit delivery service, and the half-life of bananas is less than 200 kiloseconds. < 1375448373 219120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What do they decay to? < 1375448427 721671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oranges. < 1375448456 869544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are also some pear by-products, but observations are scarce and not experimentally supported. < 1375448459 5660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly you could derive some sort of banana-orange dating system out of it. < 1375448485 536878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my colleagues are working on that. (no joke) < 1375448489 102359 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you have a pear of bananas? < 1375448492 663704 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you account for that? < 1375448531 445784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, a SIGGRAPH conference presentation. < 1375448561 549203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's some former-Remedy current-NVidia-research guy.) < 1375448659 312586 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375448674 609408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: we'll discuss this subject in a future paper. < 1375448680 792103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: still assembling? < 1375448684 575330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1375448691 177652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I posted a photo. < 1375448712 382250 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told my parent's that I met a fellow Montrealer on IRC < 1375448718 420843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They asked what the channel topic was < 1375448719 111700 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375448728 702462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130802-assembly.jpg < 1375448744 349835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I then had the hardest time explaining the point of making esoteric languages < 1375448745 353930 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1375448755 665994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have a feeling this presentation is going to be perhaps dumbed-down for the audience.) < 1375448763 281632 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But why don't they just use Java or C++?" < 1375448775 20959 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375448788 824181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, shiny! < 1375448850 419163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And think, every tiny point of light is a real, breathing human (hunched in front of a monitor). < 1375448879 554206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So far this presentation is just talking about what research is in general.) < 1375448882 911839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite. there are also finns < 1375448884 451612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks huge and scary < 1375448914 943981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I work for a free software company. my parents are used to me doing weird stuff to computers and electronic parts :D < 1375448945 321058 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, so are mine =P < 1375448950 560604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My father found it interesting < 1375448957 96088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: where do you work? < 1375448996 74775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.savoirfairelinux.com// < 1375449066 465018 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother was confused as to why one would try make their life harder on purpose =P < 1375449073 175295 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because they can" was my answer, really < 1375449092 274454 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For fun, for the challenge" < 1375449121 103452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for outdoing others at bfjoust. < 1375449141 197966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, I should have went with Shakespear of Chef, not Brainfuck and Malbolge < 1375449148 657982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: "Because it was there" is the traditional why-climb-a-mountain answer. < 1375449150 752289 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too =P < 1375449152 451933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: cool < 1375449157 733460 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What could possibly go wrong? http://youtu.be/lMuJKsUjD_o < 1375449242 480113 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1375449245 845685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that even possible? < 1375449495 494827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: wow < 1375450087 487057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judgement for paper 1: fancy. < 1375450205 508200 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375450208 257276 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375450218 739948 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Say I'd want to make an IRC bot in a language that you actually approve of. What would you suggest? < 1375450247 568891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... Haskell is my go-to language for most things < 1375450250 509496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1375450250 767494 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1375450335 553694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: mine's in haskell. < 1375450375 603994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you approve of bots written in esolangs? < 1375450390 565425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1375450521 72207 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, do we have a coffeescript bot here? < 1375450580 998725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paper 2: also fancy. < 1375451456 472706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also heard there was a "Cory Doctorow petting zoo" downstairs after his talk. < 1375451480 952264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know what that is like. < 1375451581 404907 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no one wants to see cory doctorow give a talk? < 1375451637 832847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand there was a reasonable audience. < 1375451665 912507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the lityle I heard, corruption in the government. < 1375451700 627745 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are the papers you are judging < 1375451775 136129 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1375451818 105788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sec. < 1375451864 794244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mediatech.aalto.fi/publications/graphics/GMLT/ < 1375451890 599401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mediatech.aalto.fi/publications/graphics/FourierSVBRDF/ < 1375451906 512251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a two-in-one presentation. < 1375451946 416309 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375451960 620839 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1375451969 137087 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you? < 1375452019 278309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.assembly.org/summer13/ < 1375452087 861120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a set of seminars on various topics, presumably to offset all that gaming.) < 1375452114 175335 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whooooa a livestream < 1375452259 111460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have a separate channel for the seminars. < 1375452278 146413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if there's anything interesting coming up. < 1375452328 297500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main themes are graphics/game-related programmering and game0development businessy things. < 1375452355 635761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe most the business talks were yesterday.) < 1375452523 547816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this fast music competition (as usual) kind of has too many entries. < 1375452538 103743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're in like #19 now. < 1375452564 537446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten 80% of these before I can get to the voting page. < 1375452824 878611 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375453191 982979 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375454714 52800 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375454875 519155 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375454925 809079 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375455142 133720 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is assembly considered an esoteric language? =P < 1375455162 203993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I did make a virtual CPU that can run opcodes that kind of look like assembly < 1375455221 256002 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I implemented *that* in Java < 1375455326 421693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some esolangs that are designed to look like weird hardware architectures. < 1375455327 802416 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out Checkout < 1375455341 999357 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1375455350 651782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, uh... jump to ByteByteJump, or whatever it was called. < 1375455421 237807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :risk your sanity on OISC. < 1375455422 946805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sur if assembly is esoteric but it's fun! < 1375455435 560256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And BytePusher, which is the machine around ByteByteJump.) < 1375455709 774147 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sure < 1375455761 246942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sur < 1375455762 672660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There certainly seems to be some overlap between esolangers and... assemblers... er, that's not the term. < 1375455771 444009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surströmming. < 1375455777 744926 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375455786 70076 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing I can't seem to find in Montréal. < 1375455788 534121 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sur < 1375455789 63016 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sur- definition: over. < 1375455805 581276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora's not over assembly. < 1375455806 547107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck surströmming < 1375455806 882079 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375455813 30398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fermented fish < 1375455813 306184 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fermented fish is a traditional preparation of fish. < 1375455825 445666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And ducks don't eat fermented fish.) < 1375455844 831602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck roujo < 1375455845 258137 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375455900 143722 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a duck, unfortunately < 1375455902 54532 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Gate < 1375455903 911241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Key < 1375455916 551770 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: um, what constitutes being over it < 1375455978 639146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any hexhamite logged on? I wonder if two canadians meeting IRL will cause the same kind of apocalypse as two hexhamers joining? < 1375456000 371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Being "sur". < 1375456004 560557 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sur"? < 1375456008 405126 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sur. < 1375456010 630369 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1375456011 417446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sûr < 1375456015 311587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: See above. < 1375456016 562316 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is from hexham I think < 1375456021 5946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, it was just a typo < 1375456037 210244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: No, it definitely had some deeper meaning. < 1375456062 276140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sur < 1375456065 395032 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sur? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375456065 978195 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1375456066 241949 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        o/`¯º < 1375456082 307151 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1375456084 20415 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :See `? for further details. < 1375456086 320464 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1375456102 275020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do take that one level deeper. < 1375456104 305329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I would have to disadvise the meeting based on my measurements and predictions < 1375456110 423287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I suspect it would not destroy the entire earth < 1375456117 99424 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barely < 1375456126 925529 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you play Ingress by any chance? < 1375456373 13617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ingress? < 1375456390 199164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, why doesn't this thing do 5 GHz wiffery. < 1375456425 970486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375456473 187582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was supposed to get my Ouya Wednesday, but UPS screwed up, and it very probably got stolen. < 1375456481 560943 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have to wait for Amazon to send me a replacement. < 1375456511 23877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "Oh yeah?" < 1375456580 973464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did they put in the Ouya? Some Tegra thing? < 1375456582 603037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I phoned them twice, and if I still haven't got anything by next Friday, then I'll have a new one. (delivered to the office. not getting fooled twice over this.) < 1375456592 591590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very shiny tegra 3. < 1375456613 35442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :next model will have a tegra 4, but it's not confirmed and there is some speculation that they may even upgrade to a 5. < 1375456613 719483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do the shiny Tegra 3 and a matte Tegra 3 differ? < 1375456630 431110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Tegra 3 in this tablet, but I think it's a bit duller. < 1375456633 737748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is more feng shui. < 1375456708 477407 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375456744 739392 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375457470 881757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This (Bluetooth mini-)keyboard turns itself off when one closes the cover... and apparently also when the cover is too near even if not closed. (Instructions warn against keeping it close to the keyboard.) < 1375457488 255770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes me wonder what kind of a magic it uses to sense the cover nearby. < 1375457567 307859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assymetrical warp matrix, but newer models use and inverted quantum variance. < 1375457583 496848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/and/an/ < 1375457598 226919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ic" < 1375457619 506367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gotta love online technobabble generators :D) < 1375459031 997965 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (907) < 1375459033 464926 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (907): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1375459563 87690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I got a false highlight in another channel because someone's shortened URL happened to contain "kmc" < 1375459566 816953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder why that hasn't happened before < 1375459696 12509 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375459975 781083 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375460000 431354 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waiting for train... < 1375460024 744147 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just train in general? < 1375460025 123210 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375460086 465253 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. A specific train. It's running 6 minutes late :-( < 1375460126 967128 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375460364 223881 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Cambridge. Visited The Centre for Computing History today... < 1375460385 426118 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1375460460 549941 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it train < 1375460469 847706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am utterly confused, unbound is returned NXDOMAIN for everything on my RPi. The local unbound on my desktop works just fine. < 1375460471 783571 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :With everything I mean EVERYTHING, including the root servers < 1375460478 374866 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking to me? < 1375460497 205212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacked by chinese < 1375460502 332067 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly < 1375460548 401305 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I switched it over to 8.8.8.8 for now while figuring this out < 1375460696 13584 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to report everything in the cache though...? < 1375460705 41613 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I ask it to dump the cache I mean < 1375460709 247371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1375460713 946856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1375460718 155235 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm I got a false highlight in another channel because someone's shortened URL happened to contain "kmc" wonder why that hasn't happened before // because 26^3 = 17576 < 1375460724 65670 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an `olist at the end of the logs hth < 1375460742 37116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1375460758 643381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already found it < 1375460799 569842 :Ocqueoc!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1375460850 532743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: but I see like a hundred shortened URLs per day < 1375460867 592493 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, probably more, digits tends to be common in URL shortening too < 1375460920 12819 :Gregor!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yeah, this was in the most optimistic assumption. < 1375460960 432930 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck, "dig" returns the IP for example.com from the local unbound but "host" returns NXDOMAIN < 1375460964 9712 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is making no sense < 1375461054 40389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote well he's 'the favourite', with all the pinches of salt the term implies i'm not sure if there's any better evidence than the fevered imaginings of the autistic children bookies use to set the odds for things < 1375461057 976572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1080) well he's 'the favourite', with all the pinches of salt the term implies i'm not sure if there's any better evidence than the fevered imaginings of the autistic children bookies use to set the odds for things < 1375461280 466036 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@94.116.28.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375461339 21103 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example program that demonstrates how to create commits using Git plumbing https://github.com/ion1/git-plumbing-create-commit < 1375461508 474116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Roujo: "Because it was there" is the traditional why-climb-a-mountain answer. <-- the original guy _did_ die on mount everest hth < 1375461539 829861 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now it randomly started working again < 1375461541 946618 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT? < 1375461611 69228 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing mallory's corpse is p. weird < 1375461917 544778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I have a vague feeling that "dig" is explicitly DNS-only, while "host" might follow the general name-resolution rules. < 1375461956 967329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean, as a general comment on how they might differ; of course if you've only got DNS configured... < 1375462001 263410 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375462211 589509 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well crap =P < 1375462230 156795 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone die programming in an esoteric language? < 1375462240 250817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better yet, does going insane count? < 1375462262 592974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are certainly dead esoteric language programmers. < 1375462291 832052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The causal relationship is not entirely clear, because there are also dead people that were not esolangers. < 1375462346 189693 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most dead people were esolangers < 1375462358 878879 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :At one point or another, anyway < 1375462379 768078 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a very vague and large definition of esolang < 1375462460 513254 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1375462611 759017 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Roujo Taneb < 1375462624 315700 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1375462645 688026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am, yeah < 1375462662 753000 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that one time, at college? The mirror thing? < 1375462663 797511 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1375462682 916206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jonathan, Nathan, it's all the same anyway < 1375462763 108614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Co-Nathan. < 1375462806 855951 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1375462812 145975 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a co-processor < 1375462814 149505 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only Nathan < 1375462921 175050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you'll find it's the dual of Nathan < 1375462943 171451 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/MyosinUnrootedTree.jpg help < 1375462952 625846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a 80387 is a dual of 80386. < 1375463131 915908 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375463211 784701 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :80387 is also cop̈rime to 80386. < 1375463229 31385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's logical. < 1375463260 465259 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it really is, nice. < 1375463297 384570 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so it seems. I thought i was talking out of my ass. < 1375463299 942598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n+1 is usually coprime to n isn't it? < 1375463316 443049 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :n+1 is always coprime to n < 1375463322 255944 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375463324 479967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For n >= 2 < 1375463371 304908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, 80387 is also just plain prime. < 1375463406 554124 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all n, I think < 1375463430 250226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concur: 80387 is prime for all n. < 1375463450 706672 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1375463480 987156 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :exists m. 80387 is a prime < 1375463501 465538 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: I have a vague feeling that "dig" is explicitly DNS-only, while "host" might follow the general name-resolution rules. < 1375463501 750335 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: I mean, as a general comment on how they might differ; of course if you've only got DNS configured... < 1375463503 399377 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1375463516 180324 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other than dns and the host file is there? < 1375463526 92806 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nsswitch < 1375463533 239659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: NIS. < 1375463545 471036 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what on earth is NIS? < 1375463545 710112 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The default “hosts” line on my system: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 < 1375463548 228470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: LDAP-based host resolution too, I think. < 1375463549 743053 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seen that term before < 1375463554 144730 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And i’m not even using NIS/LDAP/something < 1375463558 920153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Network Information Something. < 1375463597 799440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a NIS+, IIRC. < 1375463601 862862 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, mine just lists localhost for ipv4 and ipv6. Oh and the actual host name as well < 1375463618 650381 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal: Not /etc/hosts, the hosts line in nsswitch.conf < 1375463622 641647 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375463638 245521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum < 1375463641 737050 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hosts: files dns < 1375463642 671460 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375463665 763029 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My desktop has this though: < 1375463667 704132 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 < 1375463672 700137 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange < 1375463681 283137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multicast DNS, presumably. < 1375463685 360895 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mdns is a Good Thing™ especially on desktop computers. < 1375463743 660790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, oh? what is it used for? < 1375463767 633347 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s how your computers see each other by .local without any special setup. < 1375463773 700682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never used that < 1375463862 330773 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s a published RFC for it, and OSX and many Linux desktop systems use it by default. Also many peripherals such as HP printers. Microsoft of course doesn’t support it, but Apple provides an implementation for Windows. < 1375463873 589160 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1375463950 348856 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1375464362 976716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: IMO you're just lazy if you don't have proper DNS for everything that could conceivably have an IP address. < 1375464407 175062 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, i’m lazy and proud of it. I don’t want to do extra work for something i can get for free. < 1375464420 282571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laaazyyy. < 1375464427 293047 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ < 1375464435 381492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: imo ☝ < 1375464456 923137 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My DNS server doesn’t really need to know or care about the hosts i happen to have in my internal network. < 1375464506 251373 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can inform each other about their hostnames just fine. < 1375464575 246378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just "install this extra blob into your Windows" "and what about this appliance with no firmware upgrades" fine. < 1375464610 184034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you're depriving your DNS server of its entire reason for existence hth < 1375465016 523292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :&'static [&'static str] // what a beautiful type < 1375465038 296585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think Rust should use Unicode superscript characters for lifetimes < 1375465099 472080 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh, someone with voice =3 < 1375465100 760883 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, Not really useful for me I think < 1375465110 502512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: who needs q anyway < 1375465131 905115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy < 1375465146 215483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And qelliott. < 1375465155 976348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy doesn't need to be superscripted < 1375465390 458152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. An ad for the PadfoneInfinity on the big screen. < 1375465401 210165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess those sponsors have their demands. < 1375465516 366353 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is that? < 1375465538 656653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some Asus dockable phone thing. < 1375465542 474651 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1375465550 36590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tablet, and a phone that slots in it. < 1375465555 814262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that's what it looked like anyway. < 1375465584 804901 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, should be three steps, with a so called "phablet" as a middle step < 1375465720 948301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, for technical accuracy: Padfone Infinity is the phone, and you slot it into a Padfone Infinity Station, which is completely optional. < 1375465726 989466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the cheesiest Asus laptop ad ever. < 1375465739 248230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We sent you this device back in time so you can save the world." < 1375465777 591586 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1375465789 764366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>implying the phone is from the future < 1375465798 673425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1375465799 526028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: The laptop (another ad). < 1375465800 237760 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically < 1375465807 13285 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand that, it was just a "what" of disbelief < 1375465809 881749 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every phone that's not released yet is IN the future < 1375465821 628634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was an ad for a released laptop. < 1375465821 873753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when it's actually released, it's probably FROM the future < 1375465848 551990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in that sense everything (that has not existed since the beginning of time) is from the future. < 1375465855 291797 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1375465864 39895 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1375465868 935570 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then are we from the future? < 1375465874 484842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the Infinity Station has a 1080p 10.1" screen, while the phone side has a... 1080p screen too, except it's 5". < 1375465910 132594 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once asked someone to pronounce 1080 Ps < 1375465918 940698 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He didn't get it, unfortunately < 1375465969 408051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason it's always "ten-eighty" and not "one-thousand-eighty". < 1375465978 514308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, okay, the "some reason" is quite clear.) < 1375466008 254938 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :In French it's not < 1375466025 911382 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a bit of a shame, really < 1375466041 734289 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm rooting for 10.8 hundred p < 1375466093 724502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...French. Aren't you the guys with the four-times-twenty stuff? < 1375466112 50757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or some assorted irregularities. < 1375466117 836417 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375466124 427700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did German in school, I've just heard of it.) < 1375466147 483942 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466147 730976 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375466147 731142 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466161 400186 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466276 733542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/08/01/future-https-wikimedia-projects/ < 1375466342 823986 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375466561 108574 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1375466640 866378 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466716 447487 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375466759 433823 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375466759 672925 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375466759 673012 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375467025 343260 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375467150 264176 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, we have «quatre-vingts» for 80. perfectly logical. < 1375467249 484146 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375467249 757834 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1375467249 757994 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375467283 113324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said, to one person, God looks like a human; to another person, God looks like a flower; etc. What is your opinion about this? < 1375467304 854948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that humans have more proteins than flowers. < 1375467341 741867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but I don't think that has anything to do with it. < 1375467455 556452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But it wasn't a 20-based system for 40 or something like that, right? < 1375467469 278410 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? flowers are pretty protein-tastic < 1375467495 645436 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"IΔ0, arithmetic with induction on Δ0-predicates without any axiom asserting that exponentiation is total" hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1375467520 593185 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you add such an axiom the proof-theoretic ordinal is a power higher, gosh! < 1375467537 450306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I linked you that thing right. < 1375467555 914995 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um maybe < 1375467561 807297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing thing. < 1375467566 643399 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out i'm "bad at reverse mathematics" < 1375467585 485022 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean "warning" then yes that's why I mentioned that arithmetic here. < 1375467609 956143 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how i got to this. i was looking at differential algebra a second ago < 1375467622 87388 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MLM, an extension of Martin-Löf type theory by one Mahlo-universe, has an even larger proof theoretic ordinal ψΩ1(ΩM + ω)." imo this field is too greek < 1375467623 258135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need a hug Bike < 1375467630 898134 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1375467634 712843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's vigesimal for 60, 70, 80, 90 in metropolitan and Québec French, but decimal for everything in Swiss and Belgian French. < 1375467637 431770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Bike < 1375467649 484016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "Perfectly logical." < 1375467663 110847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Bike to distract him from the greek letters, but little does he know that I myself am a long-forgotten member of the greek alphabet
< 1375467663 478356 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Most theories capable of describing the power set of the natural numbers have proof theoretic ordinals that are so large that no explicit combinatorial description has yet (as of 2008) been given." nice < 1375467669 37231 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1375467675 790150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :join us, Bike < 1375467689 380788 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already lost my sister digamma to you ;~; < 1375467721 193411 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A single muscle's multifunctional control potential of body dynamics for postural control and running" wow i bet this hardly has anything to do with ordinals at all < 1375467881 660778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw an ad for the new Nokia Lumia phone with a 41 megapixel camera < 1375467892 622394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1375467892 843417 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1375467901 566045 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping oerjan < 1375467901 809337 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1375467907 165714 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@poke oerjan < 1375467907 405418 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: vote more < 1375467914 791982 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The reason that reverse mathematics is not carried out using set theory as a base system is that the language of set theory is too expressive." oh no < 1375467922 428615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just like....... why < 1375467949 525465 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they'd given up on the "megapixel" thing by now < 1375467951 320684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody needs that many pixels < 1375467954 569602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah me too < 1375467965 636022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like we gave up on processors having OMG SO MANY GHZ < 1375467967 772182 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In order of increasing strength, these systems are named by the initialisms RCA0, WKL0, ACA0, ATR0, and Π11-CA0." also like, seriously < 1375467970 825771 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously. < 1375468000 310367 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375468004 616560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of those are also drug names, kmc < 1375468017 908022 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is Π11-CA0 (or well Π^1_1-CA_0) a useful name. it sounds like something spraypainted on a concrete wall in an abandoned military complex < 1375468062 762620 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375468126 305430 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375468152 163679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you should go to Thessaloniki and admire the anti-fascist graffiti < 1375468171 711819 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1375468173 321340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+kmc> nobody needs that many pixels < 1375468177 40771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said that about memory < 1375468191 285324 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And usb ports < 1375468192 548798 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hats < 1375468193 412376 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if i want to go to greece right now, given the well, fascists. < 1375468197 737047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet here we are < 1375468278 634724 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the anti-fascist graffiti will protect you. that's what it's there for < 1375468287 346207 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise they wouldn't call it anti-fascist < 1375468287 618948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1375468301 667937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: erm the fascist regime fell in the 70's or thereabouts hth < 1375468322 840840 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not heard of golden dawn < 1375468326 507066 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vote more < 1375468326 736150 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: @vote < 1375468349 868091 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not heard wondrous quotes like "Not being racist is in Greeks' DNA" < 1375468385 841956 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that statement... has its own internal beauty < 1375468387 611010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that _is_ a wondrous quote. < 1375468437 182111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do bicycles have dna < 1375468456 154999 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the Bicycle, I'd guess < 1375468456 578959 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1375468460 983734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what you did to it beforehand < 1375468481 852412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows dna cannot produce things with wheels, duh < 1375468490 378251 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless those things are flagella. < 1375468496 206658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can do things with the pixels, is I think the official line. I mean, by default (AIUI) it takes a full-resolution image (for non-information-destroying zoom and whatnot), and a five-megapixel picture (for sharing and actual use). < 1375468496 421478 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bikes are not flagella) < 1375468506 494184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1375468516 400173 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or pill bugs < 1375468521 656825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's mostly a signifier that this is an expensive camera and has good optics etc < 1375468543 714936 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me. ~biology meme~ http://imgur.com/T8cXoyN < 1375468630 97742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait, what is the difference between an image and a picture. < 1375468630 471458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ongoing seminar on the right: history of web-browser demos. < 1375468636 182788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cutest protein i've seen yet < 1375468644 700958 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375468662 420297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think I wanted to make any difference there. < 1375468668 340911 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. okay. < 1375468805 869916 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1375468806 120140 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i love that thing < 1375468817 631808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know very little about it but i love it < 1375468856 135833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so utterly ridiculous < 1375468858 416162 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1375468860 590258 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what's going on and I love it =P < 1375468879 826143 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy mother of hosts < 1375468890 701474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui it's a cellular transportation mechanism which consists of tying a bag of stuff to a set of little cell-sized legs < 1375468904 856914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck aiui < 1375468905 346067 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375468906 584863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, organelle-sized < 1375468929 956606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck aui < 1375468930 194061 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375468947 784379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i understand it < 1375469645 69075 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1375469739 28988 :neena!~neena@codesurfers.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1375470037 765151 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any deterministic program that it has been proven that you can't prove that it halts or doesn't halt? (also well specified enough that it can be written down) < 1375470063 677506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :With no input? < 1375470187 132893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's deterministic, you can deduce any subsequent state, starting from the first one, and progressing until the end. < 1375470193 276794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: if a program halts, you can prove it. thus any prove that you _cannot_ prove it halts is a proof that it doesn't halt. < 1375470199 884573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*proof < 1375470278 40915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*progress < 1375470321 16918 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: kinesin < 1375470349 661133 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1375470364 157860 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it halts if and only if there is a proof that it halts (even if nobody knows what this proof is, because it is too long or whatever), and I have made up a sequent calculus of Turing machine, which might be relevant but I don't know for sure. < 1375470386 258004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does that hold with all the subtleties of nonstandard models and independent statements and stuff? < 1375470401 57482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as in, if you prove there cannot be a proof that a program halts in ZFC, I don't immediately see that there must be a proof it doesn't halt in ZFC < 1375470436 163628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh mixing metalevels < 1375470448 871315 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shouldn't you be using hott........" < 1375470478 274986 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can prove that a program halts by running it. So you prove that doesn't work, it doesn't halt < 1375470481 941123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a program halts in the "intended model" of the natural numbers, then it can be proved to halt in any reasonable logic. < 1375470482 380911 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1375470502 360216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think nonstandard models describe Turing machines. < 1375470503 450346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course "the intended model" is the one without any nonstandard elements. < 1375470537 511757 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well I think meta-levels inherently get tangled when the question is being unable to prove things :P < 1375470572 946717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: however, zzo38's "it halts if and only if there is a proof that it halts" does have the problem you are thinking of, i think < 1375470656 975817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think my arguments requires anything more than having the right intended model and a logic which is true for it. < 1375470671 332680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1375470838 379419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1375470839 76133 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 021900Z 25017KT 30SM SCT040 BKN240 24/15 A2976 RMK CU4CI3 SLP076 DENSITY ALT 1400FT < 1375470849 880149 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't think i get it intuitively either < 1375470861 218671 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like sure there's no halting recognizer but you can still show a program doesn't halt, what's the deal < 1375470915 263719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually, I thought of something, maybe in the Turing machine sequent calculus, maybe you can have a nonstandard set of propositions next to the turnstile... < 1375470923 951496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's quite easy to imagine showing for(;;); doesn't halt, surely < 1375470930 266804 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, obviously < 1375470934 151201 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it isn't a standard Turing machine. < 1375470985 137944 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, so any plan you come up with to show an arbitrary program+input halts has to not work for some subset of programs+inputs? < 1375470985 866301 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375471018 873486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and moreover you can construct the counterexample easily from the plan < 1375471022 215264 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super basic but i don't get it. < 1375471022 441153 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1375471033 124239 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, you just incorporate the recognizer < 1375471042 328967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this system, a Turing machine that halts is a theorem. If it is deterministic (so there is no way you have any choice what rule to follow or substitutions in the rule), and then you get to a same state as before, then you can know it isn't halting, although you see that from outside of the system, and not all non-halting Turing machines will be like this anyways. < 1375471204 200667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: basically, any consistent logic for deciding whether a turing machine halts and which is strong enough to contain explicit simulation, will only fail on non-halting machines. < 1375471215 448220 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1375471215 881455 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kplvglgyzjeqihoy QUIT :*.net *.split < 1375471216 100136 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1375471216 439984 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :*.net *.split < 1375471225 816701 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\x. x x x) (\y. y y y) is one example of a program that doesn't halt but never repeats states < 1375471251 595364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (::^):^ < 1375471251 943297 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...too much stack! < 1375471285 901554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (aS)aS < 1375471286 128698 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aS) < 1375471309 211043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the example i used in my underload minimization section to show :()^ couldn't be trivially decided. < 1375471320 687285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course in the end it ended up being fully TC) < 1375471354 603266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:aSS):aSS < 1375471354 824052 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1375471361 440720 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, ass. < 1375471374 777099 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot seems to like that one < 1375471374 989668 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: et tu!!! < 1375471383 88190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Bike hasn't seen underload before? < 1375471408 794936 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have. < 1375471417 255965 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but: ass < 1375471418 22746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hass. < 1375471421 739505 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt ass < 1375471455 88232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1375471480 510282 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«This name is used because RCA0 corresponds informally to "computable mathematics". In particular, any set of natural numbers that can be proven to exist in RCA0 is computable, and thus any theorem which implies that noncomputable sets exist is not provable in RCA0[...] The classical theorems provable in RCA0 include: The intermediate value theorem on continuous real functions» v. nice < 1375471522 924687 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375471555 860224 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not «If G is a connected graph with infinitely many vertices such that every vertex has finite degree (that is, each vertex is adjacent to only finitely many other vertices) then G contains an infinitely long simple path, that is, a path with no repeated vertices» so fuck. < 1375471775 341481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah, yes I suppose you are correct about that logic but even if it is not consistent, then everything is true even false things are true, so "consistent" isn't needed there. But, if it doesn't have explicit simulation then I think it isn't a Turing machine, isn't it? < 1375471944 302924 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should do something else. figure out the complexity class of a nematode. < 1375472076 652166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1375472078 761590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any edible nematodes? < 1375472090 939309 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1375472098 503073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1375472109 470735 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that much food has nematodes in it, if nothing else :3 < 1375472192 108201 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they're pretty small, it'd be like edible alga < 1375472271 175006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«purée de nématode sur craquelins de froment.» maybe there's some money to make out of that. < 1375472273 923505 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1375472296 162629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people will eat anything if it's labelled as haute cuisine. < 1375472299 924646 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything sounds delicious in french < 1375472317 961993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2019612,00.html < 1375472443 285366 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1375472480 754002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snail eggs: http://www.france-caviar.com/perles-de-france--caviar-d-escargot < 1375472482 622279 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what. < 1375472498 213069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this my lambdabot... < 1375472502 634014 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375472503 464039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :netsplit < 1375472510 500589 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S ALIVE < 1375472522 69304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is on ipv6! < 1375472530 639925 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :son of lambda < 1375472550 696662 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: this is pretty good < 1375472560 204583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you tasted them? < 1375472561 643317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Edible_algae < 1375472567 863451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I laser cut some seaweed once < 1375472572 473302 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bite me kmc ;_; < 1375472579 854950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :algæs are good. < 1375472584 400685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1375472587 244743 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i got the plural wrong sorry < 1375472602 595117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :requesting pics of kmc biting Bike if and when such an event occurs < 1375472604 984219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I didn't notice / care < 1375472609 61895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: :3 < 1375472674 395633 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you know if Teksavvy provides IPv6? < 1375472681 96389 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, supports? < 1375472697 198224 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh... no idea. < 1375472709 873722 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright =P < 1375472719 846008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like so: http://teksavvy.com/ipv6 < 1375472726 792524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOT < 1375472736 280748 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they would < 1375472744 361398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they're, you know, pretty tech-savvy < 1375472751 376693 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They host one of Coldfront's IRC servers < 1375472752 431573 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin tiens. < 1375472789 394933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm with electronic box at home. I don't know who we are wired with at work, but it's all ipv6. < 1375472791 504850 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>we welcome you to join us in our IPv6 on DSL Beta program. < 1375472795 309964 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>our IPv6 on DSL Beta program. < 1375472798 41613 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>DSL < 1375472800 270687 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1375473534 760685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, Rust floats have a .approx_eq() method which is hardcoded to an epsilon of 1e-6 < 1375473575 27301 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew, imo < 1375473606 84093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fuck it" < 1375473633 605249 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1375473668 105022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds better than everyone just using == < 1375473676 896554 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was explaining floats to somebody yesterday < 1375473696 454760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah if your application is sensitive to the exact epsilon, don't use .approx_eq() imo < 1375473700 954816 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had somehow gotten the impression that .48799912 (the number, not the float) was "illogical" because if you had the same digit twice in a row it had to go on forever < 1375473710 832616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like... 1e-6 matches pretty well what most people would expect of "approx" < 1375473715 479425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: o_O < 1375473718 680345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you sure you were *just* explaining floats here < 1375473726 695785 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like you were also explaining the rationals :P < 1375473728 946567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats and/or maths < 1375473735 944475 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i started by explaining math < 1375473741 811189 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an odd experience because like, what < 1375473756 252597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :product of american public school system? < 1375473759 651440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly 11 should go on forever, as in the p-adic ...111111 < 1375473769 866828 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what i could tell they were extremely confused by how they learned long division in school, yeah < 1375473783 955552 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure i got them past that though, and on to "what the fuck are floats" < 1375473791 405636 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to do long division < 1375473794 641345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats are the worst is what they are < 1375473795 906348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I missing out? < 1375473799 554929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this person a programmer? < 1375473804 240469 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375473808 800021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't understand long division until I learned how to do it with polynomials < 1375473813 488381 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same. < 1375473819 366435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? haha awesome < 1375473822 357528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I've forgotten that too, of course < 1375473844 176447 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's because taocp is very vehement about it, and polynomials and positional numbers being basically the same < 1375473853 305365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also forget how to do short division and also every other mental arithmetic thing ever < 1375473861 238775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're a taocp person < 1375473865 128971 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully I have invested in a computer to perform these tasks on my behalf < 1375473885 978699 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a taocp person. am i bad :( < 1375473969 204450 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: The Art of Computer Programming. < 1375473996 629798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not bad < 1375474077 878622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anybody on #esoteric who's bad? < 1375474139 506580 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me, apparently < 1375474160 695654 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :taocp is just interesting even if knuth's idea of computer programming is often super alien to anything i have ever done with a computer < 1375474218 287192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roujo < 1375474220 508014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1375474220 878239 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1375474221 155623 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1375474226 627286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Java =P < 1375474279 237926 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Roujo is a Java heretic. He also claims to be Canadian. As per the Hexham treaty, he mustn't meet boily lest the Universe be destroyed. < 1375474282 418318 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1375474310 377756 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's cool stuff like the in-depth analysis of the running time of euclid's algorithm < 1375474313 435256 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "pretty weird" < 1375474317 205842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but nothing is said about me not meeting him. mwah ah ah.) < 1375474330 985816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the Hexham treaty only apply to Commonwealth countries? < 1375474350 489337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. do we have a member living in Asia or Africa? < 1375474372 314743 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.113 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1375474376 556026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Hexham treaty < 1375474376 967133 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1375474379 613188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1375474385 905580 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought we had at least one south african < 1375474387 103162 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375474409 256978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus lives in .au or .nz or something < 1375474428 372333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato is south african < 1375474439 623565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir is korean < 1375474457 675617 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx stalker < 1375474478 250303 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for two new entries :D < 1375474484 466029 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Euclidean_algorithm_running_time_X_Y.png #blaze it < 1375474490 184638 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this for the esoteric center of mas thing? < 1375474491 137239 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mass < 1375474520 85739 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yup! < 1375474521 797037 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe itidus was Victorian? < 1375474537 86156 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the center of mass is about a foot to my left, because i am made of depleted uranium < 1375474537 287074 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1375474539 791469 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's why < 1375474540 866748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adopts a very Mr. Burns-ish pose
< 1375474544 537521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent... < 1375474547 795786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mass and coordinates thing < 1375474548 702160 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1375474556 737245 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the center of mass currently? < 1375474582 375129 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough points we UNDESTANDABLE COÖRDINATES, YOU UNCOÖPERATIVE MNOKEYS! < 1375474589 666488 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/we/for/ < 1375474591 707675 :Guest29797!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1375474594 197050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/for/with/ < 1375474600 636316 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damned small words. < 1375474612 852270 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so that's why boily was asking for my loaction and weight. i never guessed it was for a centroid calculation < 1375474616 959692 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be "ekomnsy" < 1375474638 30612 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh < 1375474639 608524 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonetheless, it is a useless exercise at the moment, as I have been moving north slowly for 4.5 months, so the centroid would be rather erratic < 1375474639 811419 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekmnosy < 1375474654 542761 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1375474683 457300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: so yeah. can I please get your (probably very approximate) loäction and body weigh? < 1375474706 587011 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with the trémas? =P < 1375474711 210218 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my weight has dropped around 40lbs. in the last 4.5 months < 1375474712 47238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tradition. < 1375474723 336411 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it =P < 1375474742 422860 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow way to fuck everything up quintopia < 1375474746 116738 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i am loacted in newton, ma, and that is a very temporary condition < 1375474747 31991 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You should probably just ship biometric chips to all of us < 1375474759 606541 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: are you describing an homotetic transformation in space-time? < 1375474779 636667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am describing this computer dying and me not knowing the location of the power cable < 1375474783 196268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ooooooh! a very elliotty idea! < 1375474798 478061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: thanks! < 1375474799 586952 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great =) < 1375474801 842440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's a pretty graph < 1375474806 267728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to take the bus! < 1375474809 226678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :STM4EVER < 1375474816 176039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's STM here < 1375474826 945970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Société de Transport de Montréal < 1375474842 320201 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find that most things having to do with primes are either pretty or infuriating or boring or two of the above < 1375474853 747096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs to update his coördinates
< 1375474867 296928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can a biometric chip know your weight? < 1375474868 5262 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc where are you loacted? < 1375474876 138155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: buses and metro. or not. sometimes they exist, sometimes they arrive late, sometimes they crash, sometimes they don't work... it's an adventure! < 1375474880 387933 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This result suffices to show that the number of steps in Euclid's algorithm can never be more than five times the number of its digits (base 10)" just, everything goes crazy < 1375474910 257976 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess that's just log actually < 1375474910 459635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well bye < 1375474913 599650 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1375475039 450019 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1375475065 77543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! another victim^Wexemplary member of our fine community! < 1375475102 657356 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To make this book less expensive, I did all of the typesetting myself, and I refused royalties." < 1375475115 539840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: sorry if I ever asked you the The Question before, but it is of utmost importance that you answer it, or we may have to implant cybernetics into your body in a forceful manner. what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1375475192 126790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now I'm at 37.78947,-122.38912 but I sleep at about 37.75009,-122.40922 < 1375475223 657203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ALTITUDE MISSING < 1375475242 168922 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.math.psu.edu/simpson/sosoa/promo.html i like how dorky this is < 1375475247 65780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no need for that. I'm not planning for ICBMs yet. < 1375475253 46817 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :promotional material: mentioning it on a mailing list < 1375475259 48226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in my experience you sleep at ~midnight-1am or so < 1375475261 977650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that works too < 1375475273 968436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually i have no idea when you sleep) < 1375475347 698677 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: My phone says -80 feet MSL which seems... wrong < 1375475359 258771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 0,4,1,5,182 and 482 megaluns < 1375475365 937325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a) I can see the bay from here, and b) I am not currently underwater < 1375475394 13510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can make a game about "Merciful to gibbering mouther and the other monsters" (or another theme, at your option) and it will run in the Z-machine VM (other than version 6), and can complete at least a playable preview (if not the whole game) by the end of September, then please try to enter Z-Comp. < 1375475394 213447 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that the tide isn't really far out < 1375475405 978828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1375475406 179674 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1375475437 507706 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey shachaf didn't you have a pdf of "Mathematics Made Difficult" < 1375475441 839092 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a megalun? < 1375475456 957239 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just read "ludicrously over-complicated proofs of the infinitude of primes (e.g., putting a topology on the naturals, etc.)" and am staring at it < 1375475476 476186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Perhaps you're just so underground, conceptually. < 1375475480 184686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1375475490 394876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my actual elevation is maybe 140 ft MSL < 1375475501 937577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming I know what various terms mean, which I might not < 1375475540 517941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on the Wikipedia acronym page, that seems to mean 140 feet from the Mars Science Laboratory. < 1375475551 369165 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean sea level, i'm assuming < 1375475567 257329 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly median sea level??? < 1375475573 238441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean sea level. ON MARS! < 1375475588 120125 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone being on mars might skew the centroid a little bit < 1375475591 118088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah. what's a megalun? < 1375475606 423911 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the mars science laboratory on mars < 1375475611 927387 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel it might be deceptively named < 1375475616 798212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's why it is of vital importance that I collect all these stats. < 1375475635 145358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's the name for the mission Curiosity is doing. < 1375475635 384429 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's probably safe to assume everyone is on earth? < 1375475642 438295 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nice. < 1375475644 636196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess you could argue it doesn't have a well-defined location. < 1375475659 536475 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess space drones are pretty laboritorical < 1375475702 821560 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is a megalun? < 1375475703 21575 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as well as development. i had a collision there are < 1375475727 848711 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/1stbday/ wow nasa's sight is good < 1375475730 194656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think it's what you get when you have a million SCSI devices in a chain. < 1375475733 387745 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :site. look at that background < 1375475742 40425 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They all need a unique LUN (logical unit number).) < 1375475743 316515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Fiora: hate to burst your bubble but I'm actually in Hexham, Alpha Centauri < 1375475751 442075 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit. < 1375475759 855025 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but < 1375475763 562692 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am I talking with you!! < 1375475782 918148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, light is actually way faster than you think it is. < 1375475784 276064 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott just predicts your messages a few hours in advance < 1375475787 458620 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just slow it down for humans because they're not yet ready. < 1375475790 70991 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however long the distance is < 1375475792 948635 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that. < 1375475806 88402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also like that Doctor Who episode. < 1375475812 418495 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that one. < 1375475845 58371 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we thinking of the same one here < 1375475849 248297 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(valid answers: "yes", "no") < 1375475850 508305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow it down for humans because they are not ready? That doesn't make a lot of sense... (unless you mean something slightly different instead) < 1375475857 760033 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen a doctor who episode. < 1375475895 528777 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn megalun is a chain of a million SCSI devices. FreeFull weighs 482 of them. < 1375475899 448793 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1375475914 659228 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google A Slower Speed of Light < 1375475915 885076 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/ < 1375475916 84928 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: A Slower Speed of Light | MIT Game Lab < 1375476010 45838 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequote < 1375476011 379721 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastequote: not found < 1375476013 429946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1375476018 199362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21998 < 1375476040 759781 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still trying to figure out how you could measure someone's weight with a bio implant < 1375476060 239461 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it correlates with levels of whatever chemicals in the blood < 1375476107 598780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's probably the one doctor who episode people who have never seen a doctor who episode are likely to see! < 1375476118 369140 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1375476119 498842 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blink? < 1375476128 179284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get 5 points < 1375476131 449895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: just make the implant weigh, like, a billion kilograms. < 1375476142 609094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can measure the person's weight as a billion kilograms to very high precision. < 1375476147 310591 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good solution < 1375476149 129171 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neutronium? XD < 1375476152 740517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what if you put the implant underneath the foot, and use it as a regular piezoelectric? < 1375476178 888895 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... I guess that could work, wow < 1375476200 940095 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the force would vary though. < 1375476237 498219 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example i'd become a good deal "heavier" when doing jumping jacks, as bikes do to stay fit < 1375476439 469859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike. you don't even have a foot. < 1375476471 820450 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i not bleed? can i not jack?? < 1375476485 371264 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best way to weight someone is to put them deep into intergalactic space < 1375476488 989626 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they don't have any weight < 1375476581 870578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1375476588 50116 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1375476618 630066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_claimed_to_be_built_on_seven_hills < 1375476627 140475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: where/what? < 1375476634 704221 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1375476662 950922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :prime numbers? < 1375476724 718904 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375476772 682075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is a prime number with no foot, who jacks piezoelectrics made of neutronium? I fear I'm having a serious case of sanity slippage... < 1375476991 409509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://man.he.net/man3/xdr huh < 1375477023 721060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if anyone uses this other than Sun RPC < 1375477068 999314 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I interpreted Bike's "can i not jack??" very differently < 1375477070 977938 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes more sense < 1375477092 608932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: NetCDF. < 1375477112 536676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Also I think NFS somewhere, and libvirt. < 1375477557 325564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh libvert really? < 1375477559 32010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you too < 1375477575 462836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :libvirt ate my balls < 1375477583 253702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc/Bike looking stronger by the minute < 1375477592 652598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which I mean, libvirt and virt-manager keep getting into arguments that result in one of them crashing < 1375477594 113446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently ran into its use of XDR on somewhere, maybe a stray comment on ##c. < 1375477597 213351 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :libelliott < 1375477652 783100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -lliott < 1375477732 523702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember to compile your code with -Wno-elliott or gcc will be all "you should've used Haskell for this". < 1375477772 692678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that warning even included in gcc -Larry -Wall < 1375477911 726178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym @ < 1375478023 604922 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdylasqhgkjcusds JOIN :#esoteric < 1375478038 993348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this tune? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvq1mdEtjAA < 1375478049 146373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it exist outside of Discworld 2? < 1375478077 253973 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it exist? < 1375478114 114966 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-216-109.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375478121 882950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you exist? < 1375478131 3862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo yes, you're me < 1375478137 183411 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anything exist? < 1375478214 363692 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics exists. < 1375478302 986427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 exists. < 1375478375 453973 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1375478388 644277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1375478415 166523 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure. < 1375478420 844027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But am I sure I'm sure? < 1375478422 73901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No.) < 1375478445 522610 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can i be sure if i don’t exist? < 1375478480 755672 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I see what you did there. < 1375478496 729969 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics “∃”. < 1375478553 854928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you TIRED of dealing with half-assed Unicode support? *black and white video of someone comically fumbling a basket of compatibility characters encoded as CESU-8* < 1375478589 564290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if zzo38 did not exist it would be necessary to invent him < 1375478590 245464 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375478599 925326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. Many things don't need full Unicode support (and some don't need any Unicode support). < 1375478656 358983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I exist! < 1375478665 345741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: No, I didn't do that there. That is what *you* did there. < 1375478756 478105 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@oeis 1,16,3072 < 1375478757 175573 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : A sequence related to the period T of a simple gravity pendulum for arbitrar... < 1375478808 586374 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375479002 995543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A program to convert UTF-8 to UTF-16 may support both CESU-8 and normal UTF-8, for example. Overlong encodings might also be supported. In other applications, there will be other limitations. < 1375479052 109192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some programs you may even have codes that are outside of the range of Unicode; UTF-8 supports up to 36-bits at least. < 1375479139 176954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact CESU-8 or things like it tend to do overlong encoding of U+0000 < 1375479151 867552 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does CESU-8 exist, btw? (Seriously, not an existence joke. :-P) < 1375479158 728972 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oeis.org/A223068/list i don't like these numbers < 1375479164 167961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I blame Oracle < 1375479175 308020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since Java and MySQL both do the wrong thing < 1375479182 308844 :Guest29797!~sacre@50-81-222-220.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Changing host < 1375479182 513449 :Guest29797!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1375479185 788348 :Guest29797!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet NICK :sacje < 1375479190 438172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, if you are using a zero-byte as a terminator, then using overlong encoding for that works. VGMCK also uses overlong encoding for trailing spaces (U+0020) too. < 1375479202 476564 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they choose such a representation, i wonder? < 1375479227 157457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because long ago, Unicode was supposed to be a 16-bit character set < 1375479234 277085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I suppose that any program converting UTF-8 to UTF-16 will naturally support CESU-8. < 1375479248 766857 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it ought to support the normal UTF-8 too. < 1375479257 856895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or UCS was, anyway) < 1375479259 730254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so systems like Java, MySQL, and JavaScript ( :( :( :( ) were built around this assumption < 1375479286 443695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-16 is a hack to retrofit full Unicode 20.1 bit characters onto UCS-2 < 1375479311 26451 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about we just communicate with scrolls copied by monks < 1375479316 135767 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Let’s leak the internal representation of text to the programmer, i’m sure everything will be fine.” < 1375479325 514341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⎛ < 1375479326 635921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::⎜ < 1375479327 756777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ⎝ < 1375479366 5926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fine as long as I get some more multiocular O's out of this bargain < 1375479380 807817 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 allows much longer numbers, although they cannot be used with Unicode. (One possible use is if you are making a Glk input recording in UTF-8 format, then you can encode the Glk special key codes, which are 32-bits long.) < 1375479387 846122 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1375479412 826912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember my limerick < 1375479423 616293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should require at least one multiocular o in all rhymes composed in this channel < 1375479446 756419 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::────────────┐ < 1375479448 206292 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : :─────┤ < 1375479450 196104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : └───────( < 1375479458 896277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is two kinds of multiocular O isn't it? < 1375479469 267526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the other kind? < 1375479485 553746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there, one kind with seven eyes and one kind with ten eyes, or something like that? < 1375479502 160712 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s one with “multi” < 1375479502 964597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was an amazing limerick < 1375479505 176123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, those are different glyphs for the same letter. < 1375479522 146309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have only seen one multiocular O that predates Unicode, and it had 10 eyes < 1375479530 36838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the Unicode reference glyph has 7 < 1375479543 466411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unicode doesn't tell the difference, so if you want to write about seraphims with many eyes by using this alphabet, then you cannot know if you mean they have seven eyes or ten, if you are using Unicode.) < 1375479558 347215 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :major design flaw < 1375479567 857685 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i already joked re: this < 1375479568 469570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I ever find myself in Sergiyev Posad, I will attempt to ask some monks in very broken Russian if they will show me some other multiocular Os < 1375479586 937105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I could just like look through the online manuscript scans but that's boooooooringc < 1375479595 276690 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is Sergiyev Posad and why would you find yourself in him? < 1375479602 877347 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were the manuscripts even about < 1375479616 307187 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: Os mainly. < 1375479633 677011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: jesus < 1375479642 260103 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.153.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375479649 336733 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new testament? < 1375479660 580730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :psalms < 1375479672 48441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only somebody had researched this and put it on the wikipedia article about 2 years ago < 1375479675 448107 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For a generally accessible and less technical introduction to the topic, see Introduction to pendulum (mathematics)." oh boy < 1375479678 447355 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: >_> < 1375479692 877560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so not jesus < 1375479715 403140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus only appears in the sequel < 1375479772 748566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sequel to what? Psalms? < 1375479774 151026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo is the sequel even canon < 1375479839 310602 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1375479909 37620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a lot of jesus fan fiction < 1375479915 930105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it is in the quran < 1375479944 407220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he makes clay pigeons fly < 1375479955 488604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a young kid < 1375479964 106059 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the book of mormon have jesus fanfic? < 1375479976 17447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1375479976 297173 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that reminds me to be angry at fox for their latest bigotness < 1375479978 708086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible some of it is somewhat based on true stories. < 1375479981 771384 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's the premise < 1375480013 248194 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: the book of mormon is a solution to the problem of "wait, if jesus only appeared to some eurasians and you can't go to heaven w/o jesusism, americans were fucking boned" < 1375480044 27694 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether "native americans are actually jewish" is a good solution is up for debate. < 1375480073 497855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they were Jewish, nor is that a solution. < 1375480082 328194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ok nobody told me the book of mormon was that exciting < 1375480094 157897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did some white people in America in the 19th century care whether long dead native americans were in hell or not < 1375480100 807628 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really dully written i assure you < 1375480101 743685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems uncharacteristic < 1375480120 987656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: white people have a long and rich history of caring deeply for the feelings of native americans [laugh track] < 1375480135 106833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i don't litter anymore < 1375480138 248520 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because it would be god sending people to hell for arbitrary reasons they couldn't deal with themselves, unlike being gay etc. which isn't arbitrary < 1375480177 497563 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously) < 1375480200 687457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about all the people who lived before jesus < 1375480215 189281 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375480222 967444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like the name "Book of Mormon" since "Mormon" is also the name of one of the books it includes. < 1375480234 439454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1375480235 592129 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't there like endless apologetics about the subject of what happened to aristotle and other famous philosophers that the christians revered at the time? < 1375480237 738197 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, see, Jesus changed the rules of being saved. Before Jesus the rules were different. < 1375480240 237633 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1375480268 968467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's really his fault < 1375480306 359063 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're in the properly ridiculous frame of mind you need to be in to do theology. < 1375480328 955414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if JavaScript is Scheme with C syntax then Rust is Linear ML with C++ syntax (n.b. none of these things is true) < 1375480346 698748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's similar to math right? < 1375480358 449218 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, kinda. < 1375480367 519605 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Everything Jesus does is good" is axiomatic, that kinda thing < 1375480381 248805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about yelling at a tree for no reason < 1375480387 101785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a "properly ridiculous frame of mind" you need to be in to do theology? < 1375480424 216731 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: see https://twitter.com/Non_Cunningham < 1375480534 719014 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah there's that and the whole business with zipporah and who fuckin knows < 1375480582 228357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know this story < 1375480591 749618 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zipporah and the inn < 1375480597 139301 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty incomprehensible i recommend it < 1375480646 581499 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and as long as i'm mentioning mormons i want to remind anybody who cares that they didn't allow black priests until 1978. just good to keep in mind < 1375480661 629805 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting, I can watch 1080p video from my RPi over NFS, but it doesn't keep up streaming over smbfs. < 1375480687 132256 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess putting the server in the kernel helps quite a bit < 1375480762 638891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that does not really surprise me < 1375480765 220869 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, at all. < 1375480769 500762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it meant to < 1375480804 279004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't really draw that conclusion < 1375480826 650511 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it was meant to... thing. < 1375480839 21589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er that was to Vorpal < 1375480879 835421 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, could be other overheads too yes < 1375480908 689273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watch 1080p video over HTTP and sshfs sometimes < 1375480916 530532 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, from an RPi? < 1375480918 970227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1375480927 600014 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is the point, low end system < 1375480930 819531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1375480946 229867 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I have no doubt it would work fine if the server wasn't a RPi < 1375481009 149940 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, watching data rates when copying files over either protocol indicates that there is only a small difference when copying to the RPi, but a massive difference when reading from it < 1375481421 595040 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: at some other Assembly you should organize an #esoteric assembly < 1375481429 950744 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey what's the deal with double factorials < 1375481455 956551 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and/or people should just make independent arrangements to be there < 1375481456 989548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: You think anyone'd come? < 1375481479 309728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be there if I ever managed to write or participate in writing a demo < 1375481547 806857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not really any sort of requirement. I never manage to get anything done either. (Granted, the place is like six or eight kilometres from here.) < 1375481605 73702 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do at a demo party if you're not involved in a demo? < 1375481650 142150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'd come as long as it isn't noisy or big, so in other words I wouldn't < 1375481657 702137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spectate/vote at the compos, meet people, that sort of thing. < 1375481678 571029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you get involved in Z-Comp? < 1375481691 974399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's actually been a *lot* less noisy this last decade, after they implemented decibel limits. (It's still noisy.) < 1375481709 901792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my decibel limit is, like, three. < 1375481713 851618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not actually three) < 1375481803 53597 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides with elliott in the quiet not-full-of-people place
< 1375481812 695799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was the "oldskool" (platforms like C64, A500 and so on) event tonight, and as usual, there were really few "proper" entries. < 1375481817 649267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One slideshow-only ad for a new Finnish demoscene-culture-and-computer-stuff magazine, one invtro for a party with a silly name I forgot, one (ZX Spectrum) invtro for Sundown and one kind of minimal entry. < 1375481826 930527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then Dekadence had done a reasonable A500 demo, which was the one proper one.) < 1375481842 901301 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hah < 1375481845 61274 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ads all over < 1375481854 10906 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sucks you can't vote for just one entry < 1375481861 361455 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must choose a 2nd and a 3rd one... < 1375481901 271695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invtros are a valid thing to do, though. (Still, they tend to be not all that impressive.) < 1375481902 91627 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers forcing fiora and elliott to come to event, bringing tarp to cover them with when they get overstimulated
< 1375481920 181905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any for Famicom? < 1375481962 641913 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have like spacetime tarps < 1375481967 808277 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, tarps that isolate you from the rest of the spacetime around you < 1375481991 301595 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what regular tarps do. < 1375481997 141378 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they don't block the sound < 1375482002 231931 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they only isolate you from space < 1375482003 821852 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could pad it! < 1375482011 832560 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they, like, they still allow timelike paths to cross them >_< < 1375482016 732198 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: i'd like to see anyone time travel through one of my tarps < 1375482023 222957 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo impossible. < 1375482047 551922 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'll just time travel with a rate of 1 second per second and walk through your tarp < 1375482056 151837 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie you gotta come outwide < 1375482058 212070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure this is just Bike's ploy to ask me if I want to ride him when I ask about travel plans < 1375482067 82193 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the oficial assembly meet < 1375482076 872222 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just trying to kidnap us >_< < 1375482100 152054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike kind of sounds like the least scary person you could possibly be kidnapped by, so I'm cool with that < 1375482100 360186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Not this year; they removed the "bring your own hardware" option, so the platforms are rather limited because it's only what they have available. (C64, Plus/4, A500, Atari ST, 130xe, MSX1, Speccy and Amstrad CPC6128.) < 1375482113 522585 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i was kidnapping you i'd use a burlap sack, not a tarp! what were you raised in a kidnappingless barn < 1375482122 881980 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's probably true < 1375482130 51200 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, okay, elliott is probably even less scary < 1375482162 752279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah, OK. If they had "bring your own hardware" option, what computers did some people use? < 1375482184 411929 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure i'm at least two petaelliotts on the fear scale. < 1375482188 982505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless "scarily cute" counts :p < 1375482195 458994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Perhaps there'll be some in the "real wild" category where you can submit a video of basically anything that can be programmed in some sense. < 1375482225 921981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you submit the program too? < 1375482232 639835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: The VIC-20 has been popular outside that list, at least. And some old consoles, like NES and original Game Boy. < 1375482246 705328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No, I haven't done anything. < 1375482257 709768 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought wild compos were commonplace, where you pretty much just provide anything with a suitable video/audio output and can submit it as an entry < 1375482262 946156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, instead of or in addition to the video. < 1375482263 642682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, there was one NES song in the music competition. < 1375482281 324950 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw i don't know if you recall the "route of elliott", from hexham to dili, but i'd like to point out you could take most of it by bicycle. < 1375482281 801725 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, but they removed it this year? < 1375482289 946824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh. Yes, preferrably, though I don't think it's required. < 1375482312 472798 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: was that the stupid roundabout fucklong one < 1375482316 532144 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just the fucklong one that wasn't that roundabout < 1375482326 192243 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean roundabout < 1375482330 461431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Wild's still there. They just had a bring-your-own-device option in the "Oldskool demo" category. < 1375482330 661284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the roundabout one involved taking ferries to europe just to get from one point of the UK to another. < 1375482337 372794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a beautiful triumph of Google's pathfinding algorithms < 1375482347 717879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I made it I would require the program, as well as a hardware for it to run on or an emulator which can run it < 1375482347 917696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: Also I'm at home. < 1375482348 652923 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: dili's across indonesia so you won't have that problem. < 1375482355 32471 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok right so the other one. < 1375482372 673457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but it would take, like, at least 24 hours, right? < 1375482381 972592 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, yes < 1375482387 974120 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what you're saying is I should ride a bike all night long. < 1375482388 174405 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to be back for bed time < 1375482393 842519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. I see. < 1375482426 682658 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually a little over a fortnight. < 1375482427 337208 :Lumpio-!~matti@89-166-34-164.bb.dnainternet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fug < 1375482434 463453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything about if the hardware gets damaged by the program? Can this be done using the computers you listed? (I know with the Famicom it is probably possible to damage it if you set the PPU to slave mode, since it will try to output a high signal to pins connected directly to ground; they should have put pull-down resistors there but they didn't (and if I make a hardware clone, I will put resistors there).) < 1375482436 413324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have that kind of stamina, Bike. < 1375482451 99188 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route includes a ferry." < 1375482470 33557 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route includes a demo party in Finland." < 1375482477 660080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, the rules say it must be delivered in executable form "if possible". But sometimes there's things like creative output devices, like that oscilloscope thing, where that doesn't really apply. (I think that one included a video, and then a sound file that made the oscilloscope picture.) < 1375482510 424602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you might make an emulator of it and/or schematics? < 1375482543 543578 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn left at Faisal Medical Store < 1375482550 703407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the oscilloscope then of course a stereo sound file can help, although some lossy codecs are unsuitable. < 1375482570 592846 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pass by Ahsan Ali -SEO Expert -SEO " see you could use this elliott < 1375482643 617547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the route link is in the logs < 1375482645 764244 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the raelly long one < 1375482650 504756 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that went to antarctica and stuff < 1375482751 464659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lumpio-: I've been progressively less "on board" every year. Back in the 90s I bought the desktop and speakers and slept under the table (before that was forbidden) and did the whole live-in thing; last few years I've been just bringing the laptop and mostly Bike-ing home to sleep; and this year I've just got the tablet and external keyboard, and went home at like 11pm. < 1375482817 674359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleeping under the table sounds a little unpleasant < 1375482847 944874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's also verboten nowadays. Fire risk this and security that. < 1375482864 811671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People did kick you in the head occasionally, there's that. < 1375482877 783797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone going to 30C3? < 1375482936 864196 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh there is a demo thingy going on now? < 1375482939 145122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're also much more serious with the checking of baggage on the entrances now that it's a "mainstream" event. < 1375482949 774306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the programs ever damage the hardware? (I do not know of any Famicom emulator that will display a warning when the PPU is switched into slave move, although it is a feature I would like to see.) < 1375482957 884203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: checking it for dangerous things? or for drugz? < 1375482963 855153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Both. < 1375482970 14470 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so where do people sleep if you can't sleep under the tables? < 1375482980 264989 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, on top of them? < 1375482982 65791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, and alcohol; you need to go outside for that. < 1375482989 964139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at Coachella they made people dump out water bottles, I guess because you could sneak booze in, but also so that you would buy overpriced water inside :( < 1375482997 645719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol is a drug < 1375483000 258888 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: presumably about as verboten as under the tables sleeping < 1375483004 909023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: There's separate sleeping areas in the third floor hallways. < 1375483007 894382 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I guess so yeah < 1375483020 875651 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you going to 30C3? < 1375483032 954668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: maybe < 1375483037 805996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't made any plans or anything < 1375483039 243656 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so is caffeine technically < 1375483040 783712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounds fun < 1375483041 519027 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the web page boasts 22 people attending! < 1375483041 748104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Don't tell anyone, but people did DRUGZ inside in dark corners back when the event was still at the Congress Centre. < 1375483042 490309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes < 1375483047 789478 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1375483062 674178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you were there before it was cool < 1375483074 484309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: im doing drugz at work, right now < 1375483091 475126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: recording this in my "in case I ever need to blackmail kmc" file < 1375483094 625000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's not really cool yet either, I think the right word is "popular". < 1375483103 946792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 cool 4 school < 1375483143 233406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I haven't heard of any case of that happening, and it's not mentioned in the rules. I guess they'd try to figure out if it was intentional or accidental. < 1375483146 614502 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, somebody leaked the official GBC programming manual. for, some reason < 1375483157 267591 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, meaning you don't want to get a proper well paid job after? < 1375483168 833401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Does it have anything that the unofficial ones don't have? < 1375483181 306077 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1375483184 534535 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's several hundred pages < 1375483192 425247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I would like if an emulator is able to detect these kind of things, though. < 1375483193 125401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, GBC standing for? < 1375483199 4405 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gameboy colour? < 1375483212 164275 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ayup < 1375483218 214007 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1375483318 551951 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RULES OF ATTRACTION: CATCHING A PEAHEN'S EYE" i was not ready for paper titles < 1375483359 675344 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, context? < 1375483385 414484 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/16/i.1.full about what you'd expect < 1375483403 34362 :doesthiswork!~Adium@174-31-178-247.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375483409 384350 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, a pea-hen! < 1375483447 19060 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you didn't even mention things about fisherians runaways in your into! < 1375483448 762109 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :intro* < 1375483460 24548 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, yorick speaks. < 1375483475 784195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://llvm.org/docs/ProgrammersManual.html#sentinels ghostly sentinels < 1375483484 414684 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my intro to what now < 1375483486 803431 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I never speak < 1375483490 115078 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: to the paper thingy < 1375483504 168219 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does rust use llvm for the backend? < 1375483516 574642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning < 1375483516 774740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is always a work in progress. < 1375483517 344288 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1375483518 616487 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The model did not find strong support, in part because it is difficult to experimentally test.[citation needed]" irony? < 1375483551 354606 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LIFE AT HIGH pH: MANAGING AMMONIA" #blazeit < 1375483611 491372 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1375483613 406547 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1375483642 915098 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ping < 1375483643 114862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Pong alone cannot stop! < 1375483649 314957 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal NICK :Vorpal < 1375483651 264792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1375483653 884915 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit laggy < 1375483659 159734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: If you're interested in graphics things, there was a presentation at Assembly describing two (SIGGRAPH) papers from our university that both were at least mildly interesting. < 1375483668 581187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: https://mediatech.aalto.fi/publications/graphics/GMLT < 1375483676 119882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: https://mediatech.aalto.fi/publications/graphics/FourierSVBRDF < 1375483694 876854 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm, the first one looks mildly interesting indeed < 1375483700 620382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't checked what material they have there, I just saw the talk.) < 1375483708 295161 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what SVBRDF is < 1375483752 544364 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's what you can capture practically in the frequency domain < 1375483756 266089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GMLT is a raytracery kind of thing, and the latter is "collect material parameters (for a renderer) from samples without fancy custom hardware". < 1375483756 465887 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 < 1375483767 835231 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um. that doesn't sound very hospitable < 1375483784 437265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, diffuse/specular stuff and surface normals and that kind of stuff. < 1375483786 535393 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 is apparently baking soda < 1375483786 935221 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it basic or acidic < 1375483788 665509 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, ah < 1375483789 350967 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basic < 1375483796 551963 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i see < 1375483801 162794 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well apparently some fish live in that. < 1375483801 361141 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? < 1375483804 45382 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like. basic stuff < 1375483808 734970 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1375483826 420111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the non-fancy hardware includes a DSLR and a monitor used as a controllable area light they put patterns on.) < 1375483835 475666 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION knows she has succeeded whenever bike says 'shut up'
< 1375483846 925148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :succeeded in what < 1375483855 668753 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :puns < 1375483945 155707 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last time i did pH stuff was high school ;~; < 1375483998 54418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Was it p. "H"(ot stuff). < 1375484002 196777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time i visit kmc is like high school < 1375484006 177388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(drugz joke) < 1375484078 148388 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does shachaf live in kmc territory? < 1375484104 617391 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoteadd Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484106 36119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoteadd: not found < 1375484111 905714 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh what's the command again <.< < 1375484117 65943 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote? < 1375484121 204591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote < 1375484126 727292 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote! < 1375484126 927140 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484127 126847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :_$SP$fn.$x27static$LP$$BP$Window$C$$x20i32$C$$x20i32$C$$x20i32$C$$x20i32$RP$::_e8625186375dbd8e::glue_drop_4727 < 1375484129 156443 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolpun < 1375484130 33589 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1081) Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484130 233368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best function name < 1375484138 512564 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ah, c++ < 1375484143 726712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: Rust actually < 1375484146 168130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not c++ mangling < 1375484157 537320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ mangling I could undo with c++filt < 1375484163 665261 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might have been :P < 1375484171 176914 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is probably a way to undo this < 1375484172 674211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact Rust uses C++ mangling too, this has already been de-mangled once < 1375484180 966361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is certainly a way in principle, I could write the tool, I may do it < 1375484182 296093 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1081s/ Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484190 316247 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does nm include rust demangling yet < 1375484194 746223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1375484195 390876 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1375484201 266086 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1081s/ Fiora: hey gimme a ballpark here, how hospitable is a pH of 10 is it basic or acidic bike you should know this stuff, you know biology right? this is like. basic stuff. shut up < 1375484206 744379 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wave of the future and all < 1375484207 912943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1375484208 916388 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed at sed < 1375484209 756165 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed at sed < 1375484220 895579 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :besd ad set < 1375484248 767472 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :basd af stuh < 1375484251 456511 :Bike!~Glossina@174-25-60-162.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does rust specify a manglation < 1375484283 406349 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably does run manglatons < 1375484421 816434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :manglatron < 1375484493 877024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we heard you like double frees so we put a call to your destructor in your destructor so you caSegmentation fault < 1375484518 377014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ bt < 1375484527 724302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1375484589 311127 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that reminds me, some c++ compilers automatically call destructors when you longjmp < 1375484643 407480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1375484678 526463 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(others don't ... good luck knowing which one you are) < 1375484705 752878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1375484717 507147 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :set up a destructor to test it < 1375484729 220516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not something I'd expect from longjmp... < 1375484778 867449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once made up some sokoban compression, which worked well (and Huffman coding it would improve it even more; I calculated how much more), but could a better one be made, so that games that are impossible to solve are not representable (or at least so a lot of them are)? < 1375484996 77843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you're not allowed to goto / switch-jump across the construction of a non-POD object < 1375485014 358372 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :POD? < 1375485022 397666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plain Old Data < 1375485023 457818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :plain old data < 1375485026 398058 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, what C++ programmers call normal C structs < 1375485030 418568 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh. < 1375485033 468015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ints and so on) < 1375485049 17833 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't jump across the call to a constructor? < 1375485060 58200 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct, pretty sure it is a compiler error < 1375485104 297864 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, of course it will be possible if that object is no longer in scope < 1375485115 788027 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue is the cases where it would be in scope < 1375485278 488917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ vaguely tries to ensure that if you have a value of type Foo (or &Foo) then it's been properly initialized by Foo's constructor < 1375485285 939109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there are many of ways to break this by casting and such < 1375485297 238470 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh, that makes sense < 1375485317 400455 :augur_!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1375485364 361750 :augur!~augur@c-71-57-182-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1375485385 858498 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :iamfishhead: what's the "Y X is best X" thing? < 1375485672 209490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg "Caltrain is best train"? < 1375485718 534689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg "cal train is best train"? < 1375485758 597267 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, That metropolis paper is quite interesting indeed < 1375485784 919289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, eg that. < 1375486051 459719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1375486509 231465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1375486550 83788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♞ < 1375486586 415320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I'm pissed off with computers I go and interact with people, and then when I get pissed off about people I go back to interacting with computers < 1375486588 160829 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checkmate! < 1375486589 571513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all makes sense really < 1375486607 741189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.b. this is less obvious than it seems because a lot of the interacting with people is done via computers < 1375486611 211125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what if it's computer people < 1375486621 783364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1375486623 611391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually is < 1375486652 158863 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do bots count as people or computers? < 1375486656 711484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers < 1375486683 922704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about interacting with different people < 1375486704 71323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it an annoyance with people in general < 1375486741 491909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes either < 1375486757 641279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1375486759 992103 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1375486770 151493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :with "people in general" i'm often not so much annoyed as exhausted or something < 1375486774 831429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know < 1375486806 821396 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's true < 1375486816 1763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible to run out of social energy without being in anyway upset or perturbed < 1375487155 824644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric