< 1376265621 39304 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh i was at the other end before and nobody cared then!! < 1376265680 308773 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376265730 856225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes well it wasn't the place to be then!! < 1376265732 618502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it is < 1376265781 354518 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you insulting me < 1376265792 220406 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At least two roads run concurrently with their own opposite direction." The obvious question is, why not just skip that part? < 1376265839 495313 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :skip? < 1376265848 955248 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a north-south and a south-north road both turn west. no big deal < 1376265873 671955 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but if there's a single road carrying both directions of a single route, then the route must have a cul-de-sac. < 1376265971 297021 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be like a half diamond arrangement. < 1376265991 575529 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :north route goes up, turns west at a corner, later turns north by northeast, rejoins southern self later up < 1376266049 372517 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, lemme think about that. < 1376266142 312882 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see, like, sort of a rectangle arrangement. < 1376266169 805885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: LED accent lighting for my living room < 1376266180 255355 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beyond the north and south ends of the rectangle, you just have the northbound part of the freeway on the east side and the southbound part on the west side, like usual. < 1376266231 805876 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But from the south end of the rectangle, the northbound road turns left and follows the south edge of the rectangle west, then turns right and follows the west edge of the rectangle north. < 1376266247 298622 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it turns right again, following the north edge east, and finally turns left again and continues on north. < 1376266283 812106 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So traffic goes clockwise around the rectangle, and the north and south edges of the rectangle are wrong-way concurrencies. < 1376266325 198183 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Why* they'd do that, I have no idea. Perhaps, say, the downtown part of the city is south of the rectangle, and there are a bunch of businesses west of the rectangle. < 1376266340 650605 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :People traveling out of the city are more likely to want to visit businesses along the way than people traveling into it. < 1376266385 944427 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Business" meaning a building providing a service to the public, rather than an office or factory. < 1376266589 680998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: huh? no < 1376266590 120047 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just don't realize how great it is to be able to reverse direction without an interchange < 1376266597 766774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's the place to be because i'm here < 1376266614 876381 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well bad timing < 1376266986 736873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the discussion started before 0 UTC, i should assume it is just coincidental that wikipedia has a highway as today's featured article < 1376267017 87677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe Gracenotes sneak peeked < 1376267110 907646 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376267179 91854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard Gracenotes has ""connections"" < 1376267197 98051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1376267277 308038 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they choose them in advance... < 1376267316 663445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they flipped a coin at midnight < 1376267320 41638 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the discussion is about highways, I should assume that oerjan didn't actually read the wikipedia main page for the fun of it < 1376267328 101138 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d4000000 < 1376267328 302311 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1443117 < 1376267333 447516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d100000000000000000000000000000000000000000 < 1376267333 647647 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 73274656582344544685947877970172273676770 < 1376267340 326086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 < 1376267340 526304 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 659790748428201985583386173652174207609455971330297358345175532... < 1376267347 118389 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they have that many featured articles. < 1376267349 930202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt Jafet is making some wrong assumptions < 1376267352 688132 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddddd5000 < 1376267357 920285 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux imo < 1376267371 198662 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the next article is Barton Fink. < 1376267384 238750 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :2d4 < 1376267384 438807 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: 3+4 => 7 < 1376267392 253392 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000000d2 < 1376267392 458420 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: 1500179 < 1376267400 208989 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000000000000d2 < 1376267400 409029 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: 1500000345378 < 1376267427 68057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :10d4 < 1376267427 268165 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 29 < 1376267429 968283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :5d4 < 1376267430 168308 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 11 < 1376267431 838231 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: The actual explanation for at least one of those cases is that it's between two interchanges that don't have full directional access. < 1376267433 608035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d4 < 1376267433 808191 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 3+3+1 => 7 < 1376267436 669791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d4 < 1376267436 870132 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 10 < 1376267479 748789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: NOOOOO NO SPOILERS < 1376267536 8717 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=40.428149,-80.025487&spn=0.009555,0.01929&t=m&z=16 # The route enters from the NE with I-376 and leaves to the SE with SR 51. < 1376267543 949636 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376267782 308009 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376268112 920538 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376268876 784466 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'll ddddd5000 for you! < 1376268897 987834 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 95 < 1376268905 952610 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thx. < 1376268910 793057 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ywhwh. < 1376269128 589089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice @run (\[_,x] -> text $ 'd':x) . words $ @show @dice d5000 < 1376269132 791415 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: 27 < 1376269183 131954 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elegant. < 1376269249 544444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i want to make a "thus spoke Bike" pun sometime < 1376269255 25554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no good time for it < 1376269259 885956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so someone else can make it instead < 1376269555 913016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that pun would just be tiresome < 1376269640 565063 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376269726 592767 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, shachaf: I looked up Wrong Way Corrigan, because of watching a QI episode < 1376269731 919081 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it wasn't meant to be a chain < 1376269749 791101 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a queue for front pages featured article, in fact, it goes many months into the future < 1376269776 52373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: let's just gear down < 1376269825 384317 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum, hum. What is 5, anyway? It's 1 + 4, and yet it's also 2 + 3... < 1376269838 186270 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376269850 522186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's like addition isn't injective or something! < 1376269860 811567 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah! < 1376269861 983201 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 is the holy < 1376269872 523987 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we really know five < 1376269876 738110 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the one true pair of numbers that adds up to 5? < 1376269884 413174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt Bike is muslim < 1376269897 480507 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's 1 and 4. It can't be 2 and 3. < 1376269905 612678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blasphemer. < 1376269906 296228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you'll make me cranky < 1376269908 393377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 2 and 3 are prime! < 1376269910 615379 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again, 5 is a Fibonacci number, by virtue of the fact that it's 2 + 3... < 1376269923 162350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Zero and five. < 1376269924 659304 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who cares that it's the sum of two prime numbers? < 1376269969 333062 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376269972 763147 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376269981 553094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike's true Twitter account: https://twitter.com/ThePunBike < 1376269998 55745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Cantonese, "five" sounds like the word "not" (character: 唔). When five appears in front of a lucky number, e.g. "58", the result is considered unlucky." chinese numerology just gets weirder. < 1376270013 130619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: primitive people! < 1376270017 863636 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help, what letter comes after Z? < 1376270023 534817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :W hth < 1376270023 921691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Æ < 1376270027 522446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: In what alphabet? < 1376270032 91012 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the English one. < 1376270034 263471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't listen to the swedes hth < 1376270036 134847 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I remember. It's &. < 1376270134 934051 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> succ 'Z' < 1376270135 683359 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : '[' < 1376270150 372495 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there you have it. < 1376270164 663588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, clearly SZ comes after Z. < 1376270166 192986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I think they meant the English alphabet, not the ASCII alphabet, isn't it? < 1376270175 849227 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, the English alphabet. < 1376270179 234788 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going with Æ. < 1376270184 318527 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1376270190 709533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Nat = Z | S Nat deriving (Show,Read,Eq,Ord,Typeable) < 1376270191 813357 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1376270197 90365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1376270198 97643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1376270198 297953 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1376270202 105151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Nat = Z | S Nat deriving (Show,Read,Eq,Ord,Enum) < 1376270202 743184 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:142:41: < 1376270202 943451 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Can't make a derived instance of `Enum Nat': < 1376270202 943645 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `Nat'... < 1376270207 633400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1376270210 127764 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :P x y z æ = x z (y z æ) < 1376270211 856851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useless. < 1376270222 183189 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't it make Enum? < 1376270237 462167 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider: w x y z < 1376270252 75326 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the type isn't, what's-it-called. An enumeration. < 1376270271 173469 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i guess. < 1376270280 462967 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it derive Ord < 1376270283 944903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are using non-ASCII alphabets then you can even use Greek or whatever too you aren't even limited to AE ligature and so on. < 1376270294 917608 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just didn't get to the Ord error. < 1376270300 63621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem with Ord. < 1376270300 904156 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I demand that it be referred to in Unicode as a Latin letter. < 1376270302 999057 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :.u æ < 1376270307 815186 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey Phennies. I'm talking to you. < 1376270342 430043 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Nat = Z | S Nat deriving (Show,Read,Eq,Ord) < 1376270343 141860 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare Z Z = EQ; compare Z (S _) = LT; compare (S _) Z = GT; compare (S x) (S y) = compare x y < 1376270343 342362 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1376270349 862484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, call it a Latin letter, if you want to < 1376270360 955191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you asking about the rules for deriving Ord in general? < 1376270362 133869 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wouldn't switching LT and GT give you a valid Ord instance? < 1376270375 369802 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but not the one it derives. < 1376270377 783666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: That would be the reverse ordering; it is still valid < 1376270378 619589 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that quesiton be true of like any ord instance < 1376270387 119093 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376270407 525074 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i am talking about the rules for deriving Ord in general, yeah. < 1376270410 143433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many classes can be made a backward instance from the existing one, such as order, monoid, applicative < 1376270445 813285 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1376270446 90704 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess P x y z = B (x z) (y z), so P x y = S (B B x) y, so P x = S (B B x), so P = B S (B B). < 1376270447 564301 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1376270447 764188 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1376270456 728674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I recommend seeing the Report for the exact rules. < 1376270462 100843 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let data Nat = S Nat | Z deriving (Show,Read,Eq,Ord) < 1376270463 23829 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1376270463 896236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The order of the summands matters, thought. < 1376270466 562968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/..$/./ < 1376270469 435121 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> S Z > Z < 1376270473 73310 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1376270483 714487 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i get it" < 1376270486 415824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It also matters for Enum.) < 1376270509 70019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let newtype Mu f = Mu { runMu :: forall a. (f a -> a) -> a } < 1376270509 308684 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TypeOperators is not enabled < 1376270512 133760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be better making it you can deriving by macros instead of built-in. I think many things in Haskell ought be macros rather than built-in, would make them better. < 1376270512 974535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1376270519 344178 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even make data Rev = (Ord a) => Rev {getRev :: a}; instance (Ord a) => Ord (Rev a) where { compare = flip compare `on` Rev } < 1376270520 920629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting annoying < 1376270529 556417 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1376270532 936147 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace the last Rev with getRev < 1376270545 645129 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, on the other hand, we could just as well say P x y z = B (y z) (x z), meaning P x y = S (B B y) x, meaning P x = uhh hang on < 1376270546 443768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could, but why, when it's already in Data.Ord? < 1376270552 843403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes you can make things like that for other classes backward too < 1376270790 390906 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :P x = B (C S x) (B B), so P = B (C B (B B)) (C S). Yeah, I like the other one better. < 1376270833 328610 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does it mean to do something five times? Do you do it twice and then thrice, or thrice and then twice? I'm pretty sure you do it thrice and then twice. < 1376270864 802093 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what's 6? Is it two threes, or three twos? Pretty sure it's three twos. < 1376270879 464302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do it once, and then once more time, and then once more time after that, and then one more time, and then one more. Now it is five times. < 1376270923 42735 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, but is that once and then (once and then (once and then (once and then once))), or (((once and then once) and then once) and then once) and then once, or ((once and then once) and then once) and then (once and then once), or what? < 1376271002 674386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It doesn't matter because it is associative. < 1376271010 956317 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1376271017 914731 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're probably right. < 1376271271 222512 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's 7? It must be what you get when you start with 1 and then double it and increment it twice. < 1376271323 996386 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about 10? Ooh, I hate that number. < 1376271325 864806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose there are many ways to make seven, but really it is (1+1+1+1+1+1+1). < 1376271455 355703 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376271501 657896 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376271624 748593 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376271761 547242 :augur!~augur@96.231.203.58 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376271891 145103 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 is, of course, 5 choose 2. Though it happens to also be 5 *times* 2. < 1376271910 475402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: with, like, a restful json api and mobile apps and stuff < 1376271918 178264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. local < 1376271933 927358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you make a web interface it should be on the public website < 1376272086 226524 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376272906 917719 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376273676 821215 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376274373 960973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the Uselessness RPG 1 (the one with the picture), I was using OHRRPHCE but I decided not to, for a few reasons, one is that, they make some bad assumptions, such as that the player charaters are always human and the non player characters are never thieves and that an attack cannot have a script in it. < 1376274772 952015 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376274773 151921 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376274773 152079 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376275237 4951 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376275857 253982 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376275892 732066 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, let's write some strong AI. < 1376275996 62825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strong AI of what? < 1376276043 992326 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of... rationality? < 1376276203 113485 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that < 1376276287 709743 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :An artificial intelligence that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human being can. < 1376276291 406122 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To quote Wikipedia.) < 1376276333 593692 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant rationality. < 1376276386 9650 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Uh, the ability to come to conclusions that are reliably correct. < 1376276402 964126 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds pretty hard to quantify. < 1376276411 326519 :tswett!~tswett@ec2-23-23-86-149.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, kinda. < 1376276418 579030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be better than an intellectual task that a human being can. < 1376276424 24905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in some cases) < 1376277164 738558 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1376277172 818552 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376277858 317167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me some of my ideas were good but I needed to write it out more carefully; there were also many defects in there system so I wrote those too, and I put them into all one file so I can just post the URL. However, I tried to tell them of these defect and society/gods but I can't because system is defective! I cannot access it at all because it is defective! < 1376277931 847063 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to have to drink hemlock < 1376277999 206967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect so. < 1376278035 256854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is mad as hell and not going to take it anymore < 1376278085 482374 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, some drugs have really shitty side effects. < 1376278094 526782 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Spontaneous tendon rupture" is up there. < 1376278099 477978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Such as hemlock? < 1376278101 825099 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: see, i try to avoid drugs < 1376278109 300816 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you people are all crazy < 1376278110 867302 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what, seriously? < 1376278131 377586 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes, there's an antibiotic that can cause that. < 1376278150 297504 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: See, when your testicles are in serious pain you're not likely to consider such things. < 1376278154 786133 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: fair < 1376278169 369246 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'd probably consider it at that point < 1376278175 932206 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a fan of recreational drugs < 1376278183 398813 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Infection of the testicles" is also a shitty thing. < 1376278192 57163 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not much of a recreational drug guy either. < 1376278206 187208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1376278210 869616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re testicles < 1376278219 534247 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, that's resolved. < 1376278224 557540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't rupture your tendons and/or testicles < 1376278229 537023 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :testicular torsion < 1376278250 997988 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just getting random skeletomuscular pain from the antibiotics. Which is a side effect which can show up fully 6 months later. < 1376278263 178156 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hoping I don't actually rip a tendon. < 1376278267 435360 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh, I thought you were < 1376278276 569184 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, best of luck with your tendons < 1376278299 757071 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Nope. I imbibe in alcohol in small quantities, and caffeine in absurd quantities. < 1376278326 727458 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "small quantities" I mean "I don't think I've ever had enough alcohol in my system that I could be charged with a DUI if I drove". < 1376278359 231757 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~butler/pubs/acsac12.pdf oh gosh, this is amazing < 1376278360 737265 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPLEDGE my personal favorite side effect: so bad you have to register with a national registry to take it < 1376278363 727501 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an acne cure. < 1376278377 887397 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow. < 1376278383 354443 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wrote a MapReduce implementation that runs off of cloud web brosers like opera mini < 1376278386 840043 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*browsers < 1376278401 662863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: :D < 1376278440 369948 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Levofloxacin has some potentially frightening ones. < 1376278455 637236 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In rare cases it even kills your nerves! < 1376278477 219537 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In more common cases it just causes temporary paresthesias. < 1376278481 600204 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wassat < 1376278498 149150 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know the feeling when a limb goes to sleep? < 1376278499 88076 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. < 1376278512 292786 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's also the first sign that your nerves are dying. < 1376278518 119175 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376278538 493726 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yes. It has one non-serious side effect and a serious-as-fuck side effect that look initially similar. < 1376278724 553470 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also neat is that the first sign of tendons rupturing is cracking in the joint. < 1376278731 218175 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My joints crack a lot anyways! < 1376278768 621438 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suddenly I've become an old man. Woe. :P < 1376278796 168842 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the deal with joints cracking anyways, like, why does that happen < 1376278827 219258 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnomes < 1376278837 648099 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temporary partial vacuum being created in the fluid in the joints. < 1376278848 623744 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by gnomes < 1376278849 320010 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sound is the bubble of vacuum collapsing. < 1376278880 489521 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1376279347 629075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought for a sec you were talking about false vacuum collapse < 1376279388 762277 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodbye knee and body and planet and local group < 1376279428 879467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1376279439 890696 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the cause of joints cracking was subject to some debate < 1376279453 339223 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracking_joints#Causes < 1376279473 811997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the planets that debated it too furiously were wiped out < 1376279493 782960 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376279501 960142 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medical doctor Donald Unger cracked the knuckles of his left hand every day for more than sixty years, but he did not crack the knuckles of his right hand. No arthritis or other ailments formed in either hand, earning him the 2009 Ig Nobel Prize in Medicine, a parody of the Nobel Prize.[8] < 1376279510 103939 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must have taken some discipline < 1376279535 848172 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376279888 858417 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376279971 11419 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376280290 972202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning about infosec is bad because then whenever a program crashes you wonder whether it was an exploit attempt < 1376280307 524187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty good, and something to earn the Ig Nobel Prize for it looks like. Did he nominate himself or did someone else do so? < 1376280403 951917 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376280453 914000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone ever won the Nobel Prize and Ig Nobel Prize for the same thing? (There are some people that have won both prizes but for different things.) < 1376280486 977959 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1376280530 832285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who has done what you said < 1376280532 804416 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376280535 813482 :kallisti!~eris@c-98-230-133-110.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376280536 14189 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376280607 103994 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376280742 301459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should put these things I have on the paper for Uselessness RPG game also on some wiki, to make collaboration (because I also want idea/etc from other people too). Therefore, there is two copies. What wiki can this be put into, please? < 1376281076 714507 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376281108 273841 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376281794 594920 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376281843 801581 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376282416 745650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would any existing one you know, work? Do you think the main Hackiki should work? < 1376282478 989327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376282510 717440 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376282601 856070 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376282606 789457 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376282704 875177 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376282900 17241 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376283175 494658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You use gnome-terminal, right? When you open a new terminal (e.g. Ctrl-Shift-N), does it open in the current directory or in ~? < 1376283258 895514 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The current one. < 1376283266 626534 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1376283322 996370 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376283371 408902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stopped doing that for me for some reason. < 1376283379 523971 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376283379 982898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because of my recent apt-get upgrade? < 1376283527 405181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, https://wiki.gnome.org/Terminal/FAQ#How_can_I_make_new_terminals_start_in_the_working_directory_of_the_current_terminal.3F < 1376283619 785552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it works with that script. < 1376285019 158515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1376286870 998629 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376286874 164937 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376286877 266995 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1376288916 494623 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376289380 3757 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1376290875 993090 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376290904 839920 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376291171 467941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376291845 778462 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376292624 148071 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1376292637 978865 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GEDCOM recommends using the ANSEL character set < 1376292638 231613 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376292734 243613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it does say they'll switch "eventually to UNICODE" and will only use ANSEL "until multi-byte handling becomes more common" < 1376292751 949308 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the standard was written in '96, so I suppose multi-byte handling is a tad more common now) < 1376293639 406245 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376294406 348753 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376295810 31583 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376296153 63109 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376296241 427016 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376296691 658977 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now terrified < 1376296711 887065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn terrify < 1376296713 748781 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "terrify" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1376296713 996194 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrify < 1376296713 996425 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: fill with terror; frighten greatly [syn: {terrify}, < 1376296713 996540 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : {terrorize}, {terrorise}] < 1376296723 268791 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's terrific < 1376296740 263532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two universities looking at my exam results (which I have not seen) and deciding whether I'm worthy to attend < 1376296850 347074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -h "that's terrible" wisdom/* < 1376296851 742552 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible. < 1376296887 353756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When will they finish looking? < 1376296914 845499 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I found out their decisions on Thursday < 1376298836 774634 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's aweful < 1376298853 318750 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the norm in England < 1376298899 494173 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, all it means for me is that I get my exam results at the same time as finding out if they're good enough to get into uni < 1376298904 315880 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awsome? < 1376298953 791987 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1376298976 712243 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You spelt both "awful" and "awesome" incorrectly in precisely opposite ways < 1376299017 965389 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it is possible it was done intentionally < 1376299029 37937 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1376299029 953486 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, even so! < 1376299032 591553 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is possible < 1376299040 260847 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me queasy < 1376299044 627037 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sorry, that's not possible < 1376299241 203154 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'aweful' can mean good, because you are full of awe < 1376299260 974395 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'terrific' can mean bad, because you are full of terry? < 1376299298 803297 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so goes the semantic treadmill. < 1376299318 301812 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awful Lee Terry fic < 1376299350 491193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awful Lee/Terry fic? < 1376299365 630582 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, ew < 1376299410 949033 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd read it < 1376299413 905569 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376299431 281867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything you wouldn't read? < 1376299475 335096 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that read themselves < 1376300532 733672 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads himself
< 1376300710 90736 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :self reading book? < 1376300818 18441 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a self-ambulating person < 1376301885 999637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376303019 42721 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376304320 10918 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376304328 162452 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376304357 21879 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376304376 845623 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376304763 146434 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1376305742 986129 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1376305750 480307 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1376306067 358788 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1376306124 293014 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376306178 379996 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376306232 777508 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376306233 27762 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376306319 970199 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla JOIN :#esoteric < 1376307308 64895 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376309887 439207 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376310545 406635 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376310772 435535 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376311180 383942 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376311761 742618 :ussynet!~ussynet@host138-73-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1376312586 193756 :ussynet!~ussynet@host138-73-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it PART #esoteric :"Leaving..." < 1376312754 428183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376312807 388399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good why is there cyrillicised english in the topic morning! < 1376312901 979519 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376313198 639063 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, i was able to read it fully. (I had infer some of the letters.) < 1376313225 853881 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never tried to learn the Cyrillic alphabet, but it seems some of it has stuck by itself. < 1376313689 18929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a single course of Russian at the university, and got a 5 (of 5) for it; didn't really learn any of the language in question (except to say "is this place free?", the first sentence of the first chapter of the "textbook"), but the alphabet I still know. < 1376313738 909350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to learn Armenian, but I am still confused by most of their letters. < 1376313832 418774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to write some notes in plaintext, and need \hat{x} for a point estimate of x; tried both ^x and x^, and they both look really silly when I also need \hat{x}^2 in the notes. < 1376313856 920152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :x^^2 is a no go, ^x^2 is almost as silly; (x^)^2 and (^x)^2 are passable but sill stilly. < 1376313860 606965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still silly. < 1376313884 20686 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about \hat{x} < 1376313892 408474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ \hat{x^2} $ doesn't work? (probably not. my off-the-head-latex is getting rusty.) < 1376313975 8541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't want the notes to look like LaTeX source. < 1376313990 470625 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1376313998 978827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: "I just don't!" < 1376314045 158799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: $\hat{x^2}$ would be a subtly different thing from $\hat{x}^2$, I think. (Both still probably render well in LaTeX.) < 1376314081 207606 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about widehat < 1376314105 760012 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Use a instead of x and then you have â < 1376314118 389587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: Okay, I think that might render even better, but it's still beside the point, which was about writing things that look good in plaintext. < 1376314130 102619 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if you don't dislike combining characters, x̂ < 1376314167 508408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I... guess that might work. Or maybe I'll just call it Ex or something. < 1376314170 19489 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The x̂ actually is more legible than the â in my font. < 1376314196 256592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're about the same here. (Both look like there's a bit of dust on the screen.) < 1376314242 464381 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The â looks like dust but on the x it's actually quite clearly a circumflex < 1376314394 124433 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376314550 903561 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376315294 262004 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday I bought a d30 just to mess with my DM. < 1376315429 866948 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376315599 31628 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE MY OUYA! :D < 1376315604 80939 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION squees like a fangirl
< 1376315782 851021 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376316672 684994 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I wish I had mine >_> < 1376316682 860397 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grats, though ^^ < 1376316774 326793 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did your tracking ever work? < 1376316845 96079 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tracking as in delivery? or tracking as in the touchpad on the controller? < 1376316984 98886 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376317110 137386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Delivery < 1376317115 886471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since mine never showed anything < 1376317118 597682 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still doesn't, really < 1376317121 973245 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm still waiting < 1376317156 176623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never had any problem with tracking. I just had it stolen from my doorstep, so I had to wait for amazon to deliver a new one. < 1376317172 714082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time, I'm at the office, and I hold the infamous console in my own real physical meaty hands :D < 1376317207 927891 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376318122 747279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cool =) < 1376318132 328043 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just hope I get mine eventually < 1376318137 688077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Support has been less-than-helpful < 1376318174 803012 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which sucks, considering that I was a backer and all < 1376318192 231487 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think they'd thank the backers for believing in them < 1376318226 918936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all I get are "we'll fix this within 48 hours, promised!" messages with no response < 1376318397 259531 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, t-his stooff reyalli seyems to vork < 1376318492 383569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: support from amazon was incredible in my case. < 1376318519 688696 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That's just it. You get better support from retailers than from OUYA themselves < 1376318531 68106 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since I got my OUYA directly from them, I'm just straight out of luck < 1376318558 276810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry if it sounds really bitter, I just got tired of running after them < 1376318587 94278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so excited about the games I'd be able to make, I promoted the console to my friends and family < 1376318645 328389 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even though "Hey, those people are doing something really nice, I'll get the Kickstarter Limited Edition console. It costs more, but they deserve the extra support." < 1376318656 240626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now this - no console, no money, no answer from support. < 1376318678 969401 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sad. < 1376318686 421084 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1376318713 737745 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They told me they'd refund my international shipping (20$) since it's taking so long < 1376318724 121548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They asked for my Paypal ID, which I supplied < 1376318733 16035 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have yet to get anything there < 1376318744 814580 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They gave me 13,37$ as store credit to apologize two < 1376318751 868290 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shame I need my OUYA to redeem it < 1376318757 24003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :too* < 1376319060 59845 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/too*/two/ < 1376319143 458153 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/( )/\1/g < 1376320024 360432 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1376320290 868998 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376320300 952468 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376320389 829623 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1376320418 588796 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376321801 102201 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376325093 756283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/EIeN I don't know why, but all the "chromium chromium chromium chromium" was somehow amusing. < 1376325181 755224 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it goes < 1376325194 858594 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats so flash player can crash in one tab and not ruin the others right? < 1376325222 52419 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably also that Chromium itself can do it. < 1376325242 73901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've gotten the "He's dead, Jim" tabs for non-Flash pages. < 1376325601 692260 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376325703 729792 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376325810 605963 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So this exists: https://github.com/philipl/pifs < 1376326102 372187 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats stupid < 1376326123 467689 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of the space you'll be saving! < 1376326129 228219 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :none < 1376326146 105046 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1376326157 608288 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to store pi as a file on your disk... < 1376326166 285325 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres no bitstring you can use to compress arbitrary strings with indices is there? < 1376326166 995965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :This file system makes it fit in a single byte! < 1376326189 522973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually doesn't, read it more closely < 1376326202 956402 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just make assumptions like i do < 1376326231 154753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does it on a per-byte basis, so doubtless it significantly inflates file sizes < 1376326251 355958 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1376326254 291362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's too bad < 1376326278 767435 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/barf.html This kind of reminds me of this < 1376326338 875908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :storing pi itself is one-to-one, though < 1376326438 725929 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, so it moves one byte into the file extension? < 1376326527 234406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(initially i thought the trick was using 'nonempty' to free a pigeonhole) < 1376326564 580406 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah XD < 1376326575 538038 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a parody/joke about cheating in compression benchmarks < 1376326585 317142 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because like, you can make it look like a file is much smaller than it is by storing data in the filename < 1376326605 477924 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think nowadays they tar up all the files afterwards and count that, just to be sure? -_- < 1376326607 396919 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :BARF extends this idea by trying 257 different algorithms and choosing the best one < 1376326610 771599 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1376326666 981628 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1376326673 814287 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we stored the index in pi? < 1376326742 613299 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget about pi.. < 1376326768 125456 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't even use digits of pi to compress pi since it's computable < 1376326981 58736 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do all sequences occur in pi, actually? < 1376326995 369592 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but no one can prove it < 1376326999 818959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's not proven to be normal, but normality's a stronger condition < 1376327019 756170 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :no can even prove that pi is irrational, they just say someone else did it < 1376327047 423395 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is ita stronger condition < 1376327050 726642 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you mean binary sequences < 1376327052 62702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_%CF%80_is_irrational < 1376327073 467992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i thought for normality every sequence had to repeat infinitely? or maybe something else < 1376327120 328876 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a number of infinite length is called normal when all possible sequences of digits (of any given length) appear equally often." < 1376327130 52257 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's irrational, transcendental, but not known to be normal, I think < 1376327136 76554 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it contains every sequences it contains them all infinitely many times < 1376327146 738033 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...point < 1376327168 606425 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal to a specific base is weaker than normal to all bases though < 1376327312 627205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130812-chromium.png <- that's kind of... not good? < 1376327333 832749 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, the digits of a normal number appear equally distributed, without any statistical patterns. For example, 2718 2818 28 45 90 45... < 1376327357 726702 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :implying e is normal < 1376327385 953363 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :or isn't.. < 1376327430 13632 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says e is like pi, they think it's normal but it's not proven? < 1376327431 836322 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I checked mine; it says the same stuff, and also claims I have a third-party ATI/AMD driver even though I don't < 1376327460 111285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I had this working in the Ubunttu. < 1376327473 101218 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost every number is normal but mathematicians can't prove it for a single one... < 1376327492 922887 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, almost every number is uncomputable too XD < 1376327504 628797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "working", it's crashed a couple of times, but just taking the tab in question down. < 1376327530 892490 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "0." ++ ([1..] >>= show) < 1376327532 116885 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "0.123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404... < 1376327612 67550 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376327739 363078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (For the record; did about:flags "Override software rendering" -> Enable and now it's https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130812-chromier.png -- will see if it crashes and burns.) < 1376327892 17284 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what that does for me, too. Do you have an AMD card or does it just always work like that? < 1376327943 482836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, this is a Nvidia card with the proprietary driver. < 1376327965 737488 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so it's presumably always like that. < 1376327973 335994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to a WebGL page, it hung up, I closed the tab, now it's listing all-software again. So. < 1376327992 922725 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1376328004 121666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, I had working threedee on the nvidia driver on the old 7600GT card. < 1376328109 167025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangnation; and I was all set to fiddle around with WebGL on this. < 1376328128 970939 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try Firefox, just in case? < 1376328189 60312 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1376328232 743547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had his vietnamese soup fix
< 1376328239 673261 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the heck do you prove things like irrationality and trancendence < 1376328243 70148 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :let alone normality < 1376328258 887151 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you need to know about a number to be able to prove that? < 1376328267 84403 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root_of_two#Proofs_of_irrationality < 1376328267 912525 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just print out all the decimals of a number. if there is no pattern, then it's irrational. < 1376328290 194566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. foiled by true facts. < 1376328317 472852 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that's different - it's straightfoward to explain why algebraic numbers like that are irrational < 1376328372 940956 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough, I hadn't followed the discussion so I didn't know you were talking about nonalgebraic numbers < 1376328375 533556 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i don't really understand how pi was proven irrational. < 1376328383 729833 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about continued fractions? < 1376328402 786540 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_%CF%80_is_irrational < 1376328406 797965 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah but once you read and understand the proof youre no closer to answering my question < 1376328425 162615 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that CF irrationality proof is awesome though do recommend it) < 1376328442 50622 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it boils down to "you need to know no two numbers in ratio form that number", which is awesomely unhelpful < 1376328459 218819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That seems to work. < 1376328488 18318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :katla, i'm tempted to indulge you but i know it'll go nowhere so i won't < 1376328488 647120 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Huzzah < 1376328544 233321 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote buh < 1376328545 974242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1376328559 722644 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`logs buh < 1376328561 87157 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: logs: not found < 1376328564 655742 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs buh < 1376328565 902737 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found < 1376328583 445127 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what to make of that < 1376328639 420763 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog pastlogs < 1376328678 885706 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems rude/dismissive though < 1376328679 171016 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.31511 < 1376328781 24228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376328795 975595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1376328796 226318 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1376328877 803545 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376329044 6728 :katla!~katla@unaffiliated/katla PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1376329085 255872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-quiet < 1376329085 503223 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376329088 769418 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1376329442 781965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-whisper < 1376329443 71657 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376329454 75911 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-sultry-whisper < 1376329454 316838 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1376329461 536106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thwacks lambdabot with a rubber squid
< 1376329595 472673 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1376329595 755425 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1376329600 385474 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list @list < 1376329600 631594 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "@list" loaded < 1376329602 685770 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list list < 1376329602 928659 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime < 1376329607 451970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list listchans < 1376329607 704738 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime < 1376329612 478934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list system < 1376329612 479119 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime < 1376329617 537088 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list  < 1376329617 780921 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "" loaded < 1376329633 258730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1376329633 504038 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap < 1376329633 504135 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1376329637 921518 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list undo < 1376329638 167469 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :undo provides: undo do < 1376329642 324230 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :?do < 1376329642 573189 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: expected a Haskell expression or declaration < 1376329649 803010 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unmtl" < 1376329651 545896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1376329662 167436 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... but... our home! < 1376329668 483148 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, we must do something! < 1376329884 598475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know answer of any of my questions? < 1376330016 91067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Do what? What about your home? < 1376330044 423916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lamdabot has a module loaded that could apparently destroy/undo my home < 1376330051 473534 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I'm a bit scared of, frankly < 1376330063 439685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But eh, if I'm still standing, then I guess it's not big deal < 1376330070 527012 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what questions? < 1376330156 290808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Questions about Uselessness RPG 1 < 1376330172 229133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And about how such module would possibly to destroy/undo your home) < 1376330185 160429 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :unmtl < 1376330228 595587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would that do it? < 1376330234 583667 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in mtl < 1376330251 478472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you in Lasalle? < 1376330261 689937 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lachine, really =P < 1376330267 400681 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1376330283 270765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in Rosemont-Petite-Patrie. < 1376330297 914978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, then. Now answer the other question? < 1376330322 454407 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1376330328 568207 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I read the questions? < 1376330395 17631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to put it from the paper also on wiki to make collaboration. That is the question. < 1376330460 953508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Somebody asked to put in git but at first I should have wiki to write the idea/planning, before a computer program is written.) < 1376330479 338328 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two points: < 1376330486 761976 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no question mark on your question < 1376330504 113652 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you seem to have accidentally something in there as well < 1376330539 19893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't really know what the question is yet =/ < 1376330565 329228 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should you put it on the wiki? Should you make it a collaboration? Are you looking for feedback on the design/planning phase? < 1376330573 11771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\./?/g < 1376330589 89897 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great, now I'm not sure of anything anymore? < 1376330596 164831 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at what you've done? =P < 1376330614 838016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I want to know, what kind of wiki to put it in, that you have one. And yes I am looking for feedback on design/planning phase too once it is in wiki, we can make discussion on wiki too. < 1376330628 178963 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay < 1376330646 530178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/s\/\\.\/?\/g/s\/e\/ë\/g/g < 1376330652 202632 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm really sorry though, but I have no idea what your project is, nor if a wiki would be a good place to plan it? < 1376330661 747210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at that regex and twitches
< 1376330679 859190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like Gitit for a wiki < 1376330718 737502 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... instëad of changing ëvëry . to a ?, it changës ëvëry ë to an ë? < 1376330723 900280 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, looks like it doës < 1376330728 698690 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :GG boily < 1376330738 964587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: On the other hand, the Web Audio stuffs works in Chrome (Chromium) but not in Firefox (Iceweasel). So if I want to run some sort of real multimedia application, I guess I just start both and try to keep them in sync. < 1376330751 921444 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems workable. < 1376330777 90781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I could invest in a second mouse, multi-pointer X and some kind of robot arm to duplicate my movements, in case the application takes input. < 1376330790 959885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is, but I want to know what wiki/section it can be, such as the existing Hackiki, esolang wiki, IF Wiki, some other wiki, or whatever, possibly in a user space, or which server is best for this kind of subjects, specifically, is one thing. < 1376330815 404238 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Surely you can multiplex things easier than that, e.g. with Xvfb. < 1376330822 342596 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376330835 491735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's called cheating. < 1376330884 529603 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever cheating is, I think multiplexing your input between two browsers so that you can keep the audio stream from one in sync with the video stream from the other is the opposite of it. < 1376330931 466176 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376330944 792528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is currently a bug in Firefox OS preventing you from sending a text message that starts with "Yo," < 1376330951 545349 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? XD < 1376330976 934011 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just happens to be the bytes of a free(NULL) call < 1376330977 668800 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically that or a number of strings including that < 1376331012 349302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the details < 1376331039 749880 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that's similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_hid_the_facts < 1376331071 253041 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo, < 1376331100 296355 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice bug < 1376331180 249282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to use some wiki (and section in such wiki, if applicable) with permission, and I want to ask permission of whatever wiki it is (such as Gregor's Hackiki, or something else) < 1376331189 598223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fungot would you interpret a string as bytecode voluntarily... < 1376331189 943204 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: handle your flasks carefully there might be a doppelganger sent to inflict pain or cause injury. suddenly, wilson thought about war, and it could fit inside thor's shirt. its power of darkness. ( ulysses, by jakob and wilhelm grimm) < 1376331215 923102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love character encodings < 1376331331 301475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an encoding bug in my Android app atm < 1376331343 780245 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, the backend wasn't ready to receive and parse unicode < 1376331356 181747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So whenever there's an accent in the SMS message sent to the server... < 1376331386 848300 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1376331391 49217 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it stores some String representation of the hex string corresponding to the unicode byte values < 1376331399 662221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, of course, it can't parse =P < 1376331403 759130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode byte values? < 1376331414 787025 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1376331416 12644 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376331418 17795 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite byte values < 1376331422 354874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stores 0073 instead of s < 1376331426 146946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that Web Audio API is on by default in Firefox 25 (current Aurora release), so given their release cycle... it'll be on-by-default in current release version about tomorrow. < 1376331434 376475 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the byte values of encoding problems < 1376331455 290643 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not value bytes. they aren't much. < 1376331463 968134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :om nom nom < 1376331465 838934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So intead of storing s;whatever, it stored 0073003Bwhatever < 1376331471 328399 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376331480 260584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the backend dev is on vacation < 1376331481 371780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yay < 1376331482 123490 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If it exists but isn't enabled, you can just enable it in about:config. And /that's/ cheating. < 1376331529 569531 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1376331754 971956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it exists already in the current release. < 1376331791 435529 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least my 24 has a media.webaudio.enabled = false. < 1376331842 793983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION jealously ogles Deewiant
< 1376331984 392952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would that be cheating? < 1376331999 398066 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376332588 490539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, good news, can't stoop that low: this Debian jessie installation has Iceweasel 10.0.12 installed, which of course doesn't do any of that. < 1376332631 671168 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It would be too easy. < 1376332679 95605 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iceweasel 10? Strange. Stable's on 17, no? < 1376332679 368639 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does that directly correspond to a firefox version number? If so, enjoy. < 1376332755 476999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I think it does. But hey, that's just 13 versions back. < 1376332781 143282 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Debian official policy is now "we ship the latest ESR") < 1376332788 575780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Men were killed for lesser things < 1376332831 698526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Curiously enough, that'd be version 17, which is in both stable and unstable but not in testing. (Perhaps some transient thing.) < 1376332848 940224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mentioned that about 17. < 1376332868 645015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ESR, as in that eric guy? < 1376332874 259279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1376332938 555001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably "extended support release" or somesuch < 1376332958 619485 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. < 1376332961 440339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck esr < 1376332961 920714 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376332965 860795 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ESR < 1376332966 563486 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376332980 750375 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck i-esse-erre j'ai dit! < 1376332981 177030 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376332985 216368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck stupid < 1376332985 505517 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid definition: slow of mind. < 1376333022 563574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel.html oh, so stable and testing are both 10, but stable-sec (and unstable) is at 17. < 1376333030 166837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that 17 would really help much. < 1376333040 464284 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376333077 964646 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old is firefox 10? I think I last used firefox 2 or 3 < 1376333161 402932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.0 is from January 2012. < 1376333171 179171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Huh, hasn't it been longer than that?) < 1376333203 35482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.5 is mid-2009, 3.0 mid-2008 and 2.0 from October 2006. < 1376333220 131706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss the days of 0.4. < 1376333230 645434 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 2.x is most likely then < 1376333236 279094 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.6 was the last non-alpha 3.x, and that was January 2010 < 1376333263 7815 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with 0.4; I somewhat miss those days too < 1376333317 446451 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A more civilized age and all that < 1376333357 699231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have absolutely no idea when I switched over. I guess there was something Mozilla in-between Netscape 4 and Firefox? < 1376333383 243210 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, the suite. < 1376333384 45263 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, there were lots of mozilla as I recall < 1376333402 975346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a Netscape 5 (6?) < 1376333415 415131 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Netscape went up to 9 < 1376333417 17814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Netscape 6 was based on the Mozilla code. < 1376333420 451090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they skipped 5. < 1376333430 412138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Timeline_of_web_browsers.svg has a fancy chart. < 1376333434 645704 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 and 7 were based on Mozilla, 8 and 9 were based on Firefox < 1376333444 565160 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird... 5 is a much better new-codebase number than 6 < 1376333472 180757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should start a Prime Numbers for Web Browsers Campaign. < 1376333478 757467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: They were making a 5, but nothing came out of it. < 1376333487 649683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Plus they obviously needed to one-up IE 5. < 1376333570 679313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The so-called "Slackware Maneuver".) < 1376333597 718962 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maneouvre is hard to spell < 1376333613 40672 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1376333627 568816 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the slackware manöver though? one-upping IE or skipping number 5? < 1376333665 769488 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/manöver/manœuvre/ < 1376333680 167104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: One-upping competitors. < 1376333707 962555 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The joke is that Slackware is better than its competitors so it inherently one-ups them all the time. < 1376333711 207083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: They went from 3.x directly to 7, because Red Hat and everyone else was at 6. < 1376333765 801780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe they got a 4.0 out, but at least they jumped from there. < 1376333800 961567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"First off, I think I forgot to count some time ago. If I'd started on 6.0 and made every release a major version (I think that's how Linux releases are made these days, right? ;), we would be on Slackware 47 by now. (it would actually be in the 20s somewhere if we'd gone 1, 2, 3...) < 1376333810 461713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's clear that some other distributions inflated their version numbers for marketing purposes, and I've had to field (way too many times) the question "why isn't yours 6.x" or worse "when will you upgrade to Linux 6.0" which really drives home the effectiveness of this simple trick. With the move to glibc and nearly everyone else using 6.x now, it made sense to go to at least 6.0, ... < 1376333816 447399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... just to make it clear to people who don't know anything about Linux that Slackware's libraries, compilers, and other stuff are not 3 major versions behind. I thought they'd all be using 7.0 by now, but no matter. We're at least "one better", right? :)" --Patrick Volkerding < 1376333873 228911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sun went from Java 1.4 to Java 5 (aka 1.5) < 1376333889 340552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Linux went from 2.6.39 to 3.0 arbitrarily < 1376333889 750698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from 1.1 to Java 2 1.2 < 1376333895 965859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Java 7 still 1.7 somewhere? < 1376333907 788300 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to Java 2 1.4? then Java 5 ... I think < 1376333943 13900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows went from three-four-ish to ninety-five, though. :p < 1376333960 53938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then on to two thousand.) < 1376333980 518132 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 95 is at least internally 4.0 and 2000 is 5.0 < 1376333989 606710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there were NT versions < 1376334019 105125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Windows 7 is 6.1. < 1376334032 222856 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Windows 8 is 6.2. < 1376334047 595344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about 8.1? < 1376334061 542870 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's 6.3? Dunno. < 1376334065 386452 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, according to wikipedia Java went from Java 2 1.4 to Java 2 5.0 before going to Java 6 < 1376334066 239607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.3, it seems. < 1376334088 748485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: The 5.0 was 1.5 on the inside in many places, though. < 1376334098 775338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Java 2 5.0 aka 1.5" is quite a. < 1376334192 403592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also it's "manööveri" in Finnish.) < 1376334241 501464 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the verb is "manöveroida".) < 1376334255 802597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess vowel harmony is more of a suggestion than a law.) < 1376334273 682880 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what would the vowel harmonious version be?) < 1376334283 925716 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Alternatively "manövroida", it seems.) < 1376334303 714976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Manooveri, mänööveri. < 1376334311 236437 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vowel harmony isn't a necessity in loanwords. < 1376334321 426488 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it is, I think. < 1376334356 438221 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course what is and isn't a loanword gets blurry over time.) < 1376334389 308742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the ¨ indicate in finnish < 1376334401 571752 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: a quote? < 1376334404 835187 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing by itself, ä and ö are different letters. < 1376334435 173224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The front versions of a and o. < 1376334473 539535 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a is front, the difference is openness. < 1376334505 220938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Wikipedia claims a /ɑ/ is the back unrounded vowel. < 1376334519 543270 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1376334538 261566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And that both /ɑ/ and /æ/ are open.) < 1376334553 957484 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :æ is near-open, isn't it? < 1376334571 853550 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that it's a big difference. < 1376334583 697577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it does continue with: "Phonetically, the phoneme /ɑ/ is usually central, although it is back in some dialects." < 1376334588 17788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I suppose it's: a mess. < 1376334610 226951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ɑ/ seems quite closed, at least to me < 1376334612 479307 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ä/ is central, /ɑ/ is back. < 1376334620 520347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least in french.) < 1376334692 52204 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dialects tend to make messes. < 1376334717 587714 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, vowels are the first casualty < 1376334744 564837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any other language in the world that prominently features unvoiced vowels, as in Québec French? < 1376334762 807944 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comme le e muet, mettons? < 1376334780 763959 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376334788 225773 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese comes to mind < 1376334794 94707 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm getting this right, anyway < 1376334802 416058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "-- several Native American languages --", apparently. < 1376334829 872790 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oh hm. I should have known. ちょっと日本語を話せますけど… < 1376334834 836836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cheyenne has 14 orthographic letters composed of 13 phonemes, several of which can be devoiced. ([x] is written as x orthographically but is not a phoneme.) Devoicing naturally occurs in the last vowel of a word or phrase. It can also occur in vowels at the penultimate and prepenultimate positions within a word." < 1376334836 284101 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1376334836 837767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah! interesting! < 1376334845 867250 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arigato gozaimasu < 1376334888 638719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sō ja ne... < 1376334945 454166 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"although contrastively voiceless vowels have been reported several times, they have never been verified (L&M 1996:315)." < 1376335010 850750 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1376335320 454487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I know the topic sort of passed already, but since I had the tab open... this is what chrome://gpu says after I go to any webgl thing: http://sprunge.us/NUVD < 1376335362 44521 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does seem problematic. < 1376335380 149922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they'll fix in in the future. < 1376335401 925827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, I don't have glxgears. < 1376335424 800127 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install mesa-demos or the equivalent. < 1376335508 948190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mesa-utils", apparently. < 1376335566 311894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate." < 1376335569 833014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. The whole point were those over-nine-thousand-FPS numbers. < 1376335615 790134 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: vblank_mode=0 glxgears < 1376335635 230239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that in the interwebs, but it did nothing. :'( < 1376335644 843092 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORKSFORME. < 1376335652 857344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that always left me puzzled: how can you achieve higher than 60 fps on a screen, where the hardware's refresh rate is fixed to 60 Hz (or 120 Hz if you have a nice high-end monitor). < 1376335676 287575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORKSFORME=0 glxgears < 1376335678 307999 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just send the frames and the display displays as many as it can. < 1376335694 297098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The frames also change in the middle of the display update. < 1376335696 358325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a not-quite-fake-but-neither-very-true measure. < 1376335717 921530 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376335725 720855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll blame the nvidia driver for vblank_mode not doing anything. < 1376335747 128859 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376335748 440346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can disable vsync globally < 1376335762 128039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvidia-settings has a vsync setting, that'd probably do it. < 1376336405 825016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (910) < 1376336407 744408 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (910): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1376336580 219927 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1376336582 274950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :transcendality put to good use: https://github.com/philipl/pifs < 1376337178 27060 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1376337344 808347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo linked that earlier < 1376337716 699733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :permit me to loudly and squaredly facepalm as a sign of sincere apology. < 1376337860 259786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1376337967 110549 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1376338371 319672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1376338481 399424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's awful (disclaimer: i haven't read the logs yet, so i have no idea what you are referring to) < 1376338536 439483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I didn't really mention it yet. < 1376338541 659166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean this: http://hackiki.org/wiki/uselessness_rpg_1,,main < 1376338591 149575 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just broke out laughing < 1376338609 539196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you probably have Kuru hth < 1376338618 558706 :douglass!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1376339242 229713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck kuru < 1376339242 600319 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kuru definition: a rare progressive fatal prion disease that resembles Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and has occurred among tribespeople in eastern New Guinea who engaged in a form of ritual cannibalism. < 1376339263 859100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: try to not die. it is poor manners. < 1376339296 760218 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure NOW you tell me not to eat brains < 1376339299 179331 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIT LATE HERE < 1376339399 12817 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next they'll be telling me not to get profound tendon damage. < 1376339443 111212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tongues in a Korean-style marinade are still safe, right? < 1376339451 290543 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Systemic tendinitis, what a sideeffect. < 1376339473 180817 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fleshy, chewy tongues, lightly grilled... < 1376339475 870310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION drools...
< 1376339720 681111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, but tongues are disgusting hth < 1376339793 923385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you sure? Maybe to you and some people it is; maybe to some people it isn't? < 1376339874 40817 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tongues are tasty and flavourful. < 1376339984 702468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: let's just say that cod tongue is the one food from my childhood which i cannot abide trying again. < 1376340058 441445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cod... tongue??? bletch. < 1376340084 280837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a distinction which does _not_ apply to either lutefisk or blood sausage, which others may find disgusting. < 1376340086 461005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm okay with just about any possible internal organ, but cod tongue? < 1376340093 367695 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1376340158 831670 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: as a fellow montrealer, what are your thoughts on internal organ edibility? < 1376340186 443983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the fact i won't eat bovine tongue is just tranferred cod trauma. < 1376340205 341388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transferred Cod Trauma is the name of my band < 1376340222 257411 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i guess the fact i won't eat bovine tongue is just tranferred cod trauma. < 1376340226 192137 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1088) i guess the fact i won't eat bovine tongue is just tranferred cod trauma. < 1376340271 390969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s :( < 1376340272 624960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You made up a band? < 1376340287 120770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know, I just copied it verbatim. < 1376340305 961738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I resubmit it with proper essification? < 1376340324 872981 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376340395 883393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that's a freudian slip on no:tran = en:fish liver oil (as tapped in bottles and considered a health supplement; _freshly_ boiled cod liver is part of a delicious national meal (skreimølje).) < 1376340427 672364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, i guess the truth of history shall not be hidden < 1376340461 432564 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I prefer the dubious scandinavian obscure liver pun version. < 1376340475 902449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck skreimølje < 1376340476 507536 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1376340490 451630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i suppose tran _might_ count as another such food, although i don't think that was pushed on me as much as on some other poor kids. < 1376340548 642167 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my dad tried to make us ingurgitate fish oil pills when my bro and I were young, but the memories of that are very fungotty. < 1376340548 880070 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they say that you can lie on it till it hatched, and thieves. he is important as a lord, even on the astral plane. usually, there will be very useful if you're telepathic. < 1376340559 882019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about vitamin E and whatnots. < 1376340617 471871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a norwegian wikipedia article on mølje but no english wiki link in it, alas < 1376340655 811329 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1376340663 761935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i recall the meat variant, which is far less delicious but still edible after a fashion and which my mother used to make on christmas eve. < 1376340725 41612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw i recommend google picture hits for skreimølje hth < 1376340809 252164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the norwegian traditional way of taking fish oil is with a spoon, from a bottle. i hear nowadays they add orange flavor to it to make it less unappealing. < 1376340834 761562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they are making advertisements about it. < 1376340852 266686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made the wiki of discussion/collaboration of Uselessness RPG 1, now. Please write a comment on it! (or if you find a minor spelling/grammar mistake on it, you can fix that too if you want to) < 1376340917 541750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fungotty memories sounds like _all_ my childhood memories. < 1376340917 742312 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: better leave the dungeon; otherwise you might get giantslayer. < 1376340943 259575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as the Illustrious Markovian Bot said. < 1376340985 614133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1376340985 852247 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1376341107 870521 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should give a link to the wiki; we can't comment or take a look at it if we don't know where it is < 1376341118 283246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I already did. < 1376341126 972617 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: sure we can. < 1376341132 252809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I will repeat it to you: http://hackiki.org/wiki/uselessness_rpg_1,,main < 1376341141 201963 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: thanks < 1376341518 672126 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the joy of being completely lost in the inextricable meandres of OpenERP innadrs... < 1376341531 124374 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/adr/ard/ < 1376341805 403430 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376341845 883641 :sacje!~sacre@unaffiliated/klet JOIN :#esoteric < 1376341966 14439 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1376341994 716642 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1376342134 233741 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go get various thready resino-cupric apparatuses for power distribution and signal propagation. tonight is da night! < 1376342147 33449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: OOOOOOUUUUYAAAAAAAAH! < 1376342151 403593 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1376342911 133197 :eztam!~x@g229056106.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1376343327 795254 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376343439 644010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants to talk about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamport_signature ??? it's pretty great < 1376343469 455604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a public-key signature system which uses no fancy math, only hash functions, and so resists attack by quantum computers < 1376343476 688684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only problem is you can only use a given public key once >_< < 1376343707 676701 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, lesie lamport did non-latex things. < 1376343825 465514 :eztam!~x@g229056106.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Verlassend < 1376343999 803779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :merkle trees were invented as a way of efficiently "distributing" lots of one-time-use Lamport public keys < 1376344085 553855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you generate 2^n keys, make them into a merkle tree of height n, and then publish the root as your identity < 1376344136 593987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then to sign a message you also include one of those one-use keys and the path to it in the merkle tree < 1376344178 626188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess once you've almost used up your 2^n keys you can sign a new root? not sure < 1376344461 885200 :johnny57!~dominik@chello212017069054.14.15.vie.surfer.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1376344466 196388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you know about `grep ''`, feel like this is a useful non-obvious tip that people should know (or maybe everyone but me already does) < 1376344480 825171 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like cat but it labels the files all the lines are from so you can use it in a pipeline or just pass it to less or whaterver < 1376344486 155080 :johnny57!~dominik@chello212017069054.14.15.vie.surfer.at PART :#esoteric < 1376344495 104532 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi johnny57, bye johnny5 < 1376344496 153985 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1376344523 104193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh that's cool < 1376344529 474922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do use 'grep .' sometimes but didn't know that one < 1376344549 644665 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that work with empty lines? < 1376344631 803868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it filters out empty lines < 1376344634 484437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is useful sometimes < 1376344957 18956 :dessos_!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376344957 636447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I do 'head -n -0 list of files', it's kind of similar except it puts ==> labels <== at the start of each file instead of labeling lines. < 1376345058 978226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: `more ...` does the same < 1376345064 766113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when piped < 1376345073 826618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the headers are slightly different < 1376345091 875332 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345118 316190 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345152 220092 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1376345232 7678 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Client Quit < 1376345248 461059 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345248 661625 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376345248 661781 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345285 205864 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Client Quit < 1376345302 834669 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345303 34876 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1376345303 35037 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1376345307 483207 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1376348326 976704 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone quickly give me a simple iterative code excerpt from a C-like language? < 1376348416 446057 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(int i = 0; i < 10; i++){printf("%d\n", i);} < 1376348423 516427 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int fib(int n) { int res = 1, i; for(i = 2; i < n; ++i) res *= i; return res; } < 1376348431 736001 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good naming < 1376348477 36039 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :naming? < 1376348484 325295 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib for factorial < 1376348488 296356 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.141.161 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1376348535 926995 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. XD < 1376348541 77099 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the name of your function < 1376348543 629461 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a bit of a fib < 1376348576 846183 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1376348583 946082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora, used yours < 1376350215 888548 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1376350224 347071 :kallisti_!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376350227 969229 :kallisti_!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1376350503 61781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you hadn't learned haskell when you came here to #esoteric, had you? now i see you advocating it all over reddit :P < 1376350515 598977 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know! < 1376350517 297589 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's scary! < 1376350520 117717 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have I become!? < 1376350591 277633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i vaguely recall what the haskell committee had was called a "syntax czar" < 1376350624 201753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you advocate haskell < 1376350679 859534 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1376350693 10482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: we've already `olisted, no need < 1376350717 980417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed by googling it and getting hudak's A History of Haskell as one of the hits < 1376350750 307576 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​​`olist 001 < 1376350776 297748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, Sgeo's counter has wrapped around! < 1376350798 377807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also HackEgo has croaked? < 1376350802 797604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1376350803 938551 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1376350812 677919 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, we're all going to die < 1376350814 396750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes unicode
< 1376350826 516413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is one common (but disputed) hypothesis < 1376350851 775010 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorick < 1376350881 18538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it depends on your definition of "die" < 1376350910 320371 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero-width space. Also, Quassel doesn't have a right-click menu to add one, so I had to use character map :( < 1376350916 386807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think a sufficiently advanced singularitarian immortality is indistinguishable from religious afterlife, or something. < 1376350927 654786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you added two, in fact < 1376350929 189540 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, how convenient. < 1376350980 318707 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1376350985 19160 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, are you reddit-stalking me < 1376351004 69321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact some religions may have _less_ advanced afterlives than that... < 1376351016 49472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides his reddit friend list
< 1376351033 968080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, MAYBE < 1376351047 236350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: am i on that!! < 1376351057 278374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm are you, let me check < 1376351146 620738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, like elliott you are excluded for never actually posting hth < 1376351162 309013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, by the way, in another channel I'm fighting Haskell's last stand < 1376351170 908126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ooh < 1376351171 108166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey i post at least once a year hth < 1376351174 238578 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how noble < 1376351187 728640 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw how do you quantify how advanced an afterlife is < 1376351189 679360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe you should come to #haskell < 1376351211 498714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's ok since it's always(*) to r/haskell which i read anyway < 1376351211 918541 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you advance an afterlife < 1376351212 119220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or #haskell-lens (the good channel and also smaller) < 1376351215 638577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*) nearly always < 1376351237 611975 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-lens isn't even logged < 1376351246 684355 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :top secret discussions < 1376351249 119418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well some afterlives like the buddhist ones might be _temporary_. and some might not be very attractive. < 1376351266 168583 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound very advancedness-related! < 1376351276 498348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually i'm not sure buddhism has afterlives as much as different realms to be reborn into) < 1376351323 129694 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :buddhism just has lives, generally < 1376351362 948979 :iamfishhead!~jgoldste@192.147.44.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1376351382 370139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"singularitarian immortality"? Like, it is... < 1376351426 819870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :overthrow the syntax czar and install a syntax soviet < 1376351460 28619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: basically about technology solving the problem of mortality, in whatever manner. (computer uploading with backups being a popular idea for how it could happen) < 1376351462 78417 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a syntax soviet elected by the syntax proletariat < 1376351497 408612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mortality is a problem? < 1376351512 729814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Potter and the Tyranny of Structurelessness < 1376351520 418889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: some people don't like the idea of having to die, indeed < 1376351533 288186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not until they themselves choose it. < 1376351537 552359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is not a problem. < 1376351550 478356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is those kind of people. < 1376351572 907562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvious solution: kill all the people who don't want to die < 1376351586 319075 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-168-160.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a four-way showdown between C, C++, Go, and Haskell < 1376351597 68466 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Tyranny of Structurelessness < 1376351599 29811 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already incredibly disinterested < 1376351600 399035 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1089) <+kmc> Harry Potter and the Tyranny of Structurelessness < 1376351601 162656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't say it was a good solution, just obvious) < 1376351608 518384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's one, but I don't like that solution either. Just simply ignore their request. < 1376351641 898349 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i found out my school library has a binder of PDP-11 macro programming manual < 1376351644 898596 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing imo. < 1376351723 32368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you macro program a micro computer < 1376351729 684655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the PDP-11 was a mini computer < 1376351735 448488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think what you need is to get kmc in there to make it a five-way showdown < 1376351738 689174 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's programming In The Large < 1376351852 818498 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1376351931 421205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE nys < 1376351934 535718 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :NyS: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1376351945 388714 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaah < 1376351950 68730 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been here before < 1376351954 688641 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not new < 1376351954 888995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1376351957 620327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't save you < 1376351958 870669 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-o < 1376351960 690721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwelcome nys < 1376351963 698195 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​9nys: 2Welcome 13to 6the 4international 7hub 8for 9esoteric 2programming 13language 6design 4and 7deployment! 8For 9more 2information, 13check 6out 4our 7wiki: 8http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 9(For 2the 13other 6kind 4of 7esoterica, 8try 9#esoteric 2on 13irc.dal.net.) < 1376351969 589439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have you been _WeLcOmEd_ before < 1376351978 581270 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nys < 1376351979 998652 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is up < 1376351984 539134 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing much < 1376351998 380695 :nys!~YXWX@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :??6?$basic_ostream@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@@std@@QAEAAV01@P6AAAV01@AAV01@@Z@Z