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04:53:55 <coppro> xkcd is pretty good again
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05:14:47 <Sgeo> http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/345182258
05:15:45 <Bike> "one crazy scholar decided Jesus was physically disabled and that this had such-and-so effects on his psychology as a child and as an adult." ok, i need to see this.
05:16:16 <Bike> Anyway why are you linking this
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05:21:04 <coppro> best completely random book I've read:
05:22:33 <coppro> hmm, can't seem to find it :(
05:24:17 <shachaf> well you gotta have a probability distribution on books first
05:25:23 <coppro> http://www.amazon.com/When-Science-Wrong-Simon-LeVay/dp/0452289327
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07:14:44 <oerjan> <coppro> hmm, can't seem to find it :( <-- try a completely random place hth
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12:45:35 <Jafet> `quote Mozilla/5.0
12:50:16 <Jafet> `pastelogs Mozilla/5.0
12:50:55 <HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.26459
12:57:01 <Jafet> So, google drive blocks you based on user-agent
12:57:27 <Jafet> And no, it does not understand Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit KHTML Gecko Chrome Safari
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13:31:27 <metasepia> CYMX 231300Z 36007KT 45SM FEW015 FEW210 17/11 A3008 RMK CF1CI1 CF TR CI TR SLP187 DENSITY ALT 300FT
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14:29:31 <Roujo> Well that's pretty nice: https://github.com/bolknote/SedChess
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14:49:05 <Roujo> That took me a while to get =P
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15:43:24 <Roujo> The last time I went OOM, a couple of people died
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16:19:08 <olsner> oom is horrible, linux *never* chooses the right process
16:19:33 <olsner> oh, git running out of memory? kill mysql and corrupt the database!
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17:43:27 <Vorpal> What *are* those strange oblong plastic sticker things with metal strips inside you sometimes find in products you got from a shop?
17:44:11 <olsner> Vorpal: the things that makes the beepers go beep if you don't pay
17:45:21 <Vorpal> olsner, why would I find it in something I got from cdon though???
17:45:24 <olsner> (they resonate to produce a radio pulse when activated by the exit gates - a large magnet at the register destroys parts of the circuits so it stops working)
17:45:44 <Vorpal> olsner, Also, isn't that usually larger things that sprays colors if you try to remove them iirc?
17:46:08 <Vorpal> There are *circuits* inside? Looks like 3 plain metal strips simply
17:46:14 <olsner> there are, you know, several alternative systems for theft prevention
17:46:54 <Vorpal> olsner, yeah in this one it is just 3 plain metal strips
17:47:31 <olsner> there are probably other layers of the sticker that combine those strips into some sort of coil-like thing
17:48:32 <olsner> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_article_surveillance
17:48:55 <Vorpal> olsner, ah it is one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Acousto-magnetic-tag-cutaway.jpg
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19:04:06 <kmc> "Augmented assignments are not unique to python. They are found in C, Java, Perl, Go, Ruby, JavaScript etc. One could argue that if they were so terrible, they would never have made it to so many programming languages...."
19:05:36 <Gregor> Are there people who are enormously against +=?
19:05:46 <kmc> don't know
19:06:06 <kmc> somebody said "I think augmented assignments are a terrible ideas and one of the worst features of python" but declined to follow up on that statement in any way
19:06:53 <Roujo> What's an augmented assignement? +=?
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19:07:46 <kmc> apparently
19:07:51 <kmc> was not familiar with the term before today
19:08:31 <coppro> haskell has them if you have lenses
19:11:54 <lambdabot> (Num a, MonadState s m) => ASetter' s a -> a -> m ()
19:12:22 <oerjan> > (_1 += 3) `runState` (5, True)
19:12:35 <Bike> kmc: lol @ popularity argument.
19:13:59 <oerjan> > (both += 3) `runState` (1, 42)
19:14:17 <Bike> it's like you're really coding C!
19:19:17 <Koen_> is 'both' only working for a pair?
19:19:24 <Koen_> as in not for triples
19:21:13 <Koen_> it feels like you're making stuff up along the way
19:22:53 <kmc> \rainbow{lenses}
19:23:02 <kmc> also \rainbow{prisms}
19:23:19 <kmc> prisms are some kind of dual to lenses and you're required to listen to dark side of the moon when you use them
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19:34:38 <kmc> the issue here is that you might want to overload += separately from +, for efficiency, but then you can break the equivalence a += b <=> a = a + b
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19:35:56 <olsner> I wonder what "NOTE: Packets from the Internet are evenly transmitted to the wired and wireless devices." means
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19:53:49 <Gregor> olsner: It simplifies routing if instead of actually giving each packet to the appropriate target, you just go round-robin.
19:55:19 <olsner> yeah, that's probably what it means
20:10:06 <Taneb> The future's in our hands in our hands and we will never be the same again...
20:10:44 <Taneb> Oh dear has oerjan started lensing
20:11:16 <oerjan> um i did that a while ago
20:11:39 <Taneb> Sorry I haven't been paying attention
20:11:45 <Taneb> oerjan, get out while you still can
20:11:47 <oerjan> used them in my emmental building program
20:13:54 <oerjan> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Emmental#Computability_class
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20:19:15 <Taneb> Did you see that dragon curve I drew using Haskell?
20:19:44 <kmc> "oh dear oerjan started lasing"
20:20:20 <Taneb> http://www.vandoorn.talktalk.net/Nathan's_Stuff/d.svg
20:20:41 <Taneb> Source code: http://lpaste.net/92030
20:21:34 <kmc> you're using Diagrams!
20:21:35 <kmc> that library rocks
20:22:34 <oerjan> hm i looked at it the other day and saw a comment that it generated inefficient svg.
20:23:32 <Taneb> I think the problem is that it generates SVGs inefficiently
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20:28:29 <Taneb> Which is actively being worked on
20:28:36 <Taneb> I think my program is now being used as a benchmark
20:33:05 <Taneb> I think the source generated is pretty good for what is essentially one really wiggly line
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20:55:39 <Taneb> Actual quote from a book I am reading: "Possibly the Romans would not have hampered themselves by this unfortunate inversion if humans reproduced by external fertilization like frogs."
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20:58:21 <Taneb> What does it mean? I don't know!
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21:00:54 <Taneb> Also I think I've just joined an anime society
21:10:30 <kmc> congratsneb
21:11:32 <Taneb> I'm not even at uni yet!
21:14:35 <kmc> university is a fine time to experiment with anime
21:20:32 <Koen_> we had an anime club at my university. they... 'experiment' a lot
21:25:55 <olsner> http://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack nice
21:26:17 <olsner> (he eventually ... installs linux on his hard drive!)
21:26:36 <kmc> Koen_: oh?
21:27:03 <Koen_> well they share room with the gay lesbian and bi club
21:27:18 <Koen_> and with the first-aid club
21:29:03 <Taneb> That sounds like a recipe for very safe disaster
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21:38:37 <Taneb> I came to a disconcerting realization today
21:38:57 <Taneb> There could easily be people alive who have a great-great grandparent younger than my grandmother
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21:43:06 <kmc> I think the part of my brain that registers disconcertingness can't deal with the complexity of that statement
21:43:09 <kmc> so I'm safe
21:44:29 <Taneb> My gran's 86, right?
21:45:43 <olsner> is that greater than a great-great grandparent?
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22:09:31 <Taneb> Okay, assuming it is acceptable to have a child when you are 20
22:10:01 <Taneb> A child born today could have parents who are 20, grandparents who are 40, great-grandparents who are 60, great-great-grandparents who are 80
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22:22:26 <Koen_> that's a lot of 20 in a row
22:23:37 <Koen_> also, why don't you have a child already?
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22:23:54 <olsner> maybe because he's not 20 yet?
22:24:16 <Koen_> oh that's a work in progress then
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22:36:32 <doesthiswork> I just watched the subtext demo and it is pretty cool
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23:06:05 <Bike> «Singularity IS TOO coming soon. Ray the K says, & he knows» lol
23:06:42 <kmc> the Singularity Institute sold the name "Singularity" to Kurzweil because they were sick of being confused with him
23:06:52 <kmc> so now SingInst is MIRI -- Machine Intelligence Research Institute
23:06:58 <kmc> also Kurzweil works at Google (???)
23:07:13 <kmc> I assume he wanders the hallways rambling
23:07:16 <Bike> that reading stuff maybe
23:07:29 <Bike> or uh, i don't know much about him, did he just finance that or actually engineer it
23:07:57 <elliott> kmc: uh, I think they sold it to Singularity University
23:08:12 <Bike> i refuse to believe most of these organizations exist btw
23:09:15 <Bike> this was in response to "NEUROHULK" which i just found out exists. glad
23:09:47 <Bike> "AFTER ISOLATING THE STOMATOGASTRIC GANGLION THE TAIL WAS FROZEN FOR LATER USE IN LAB LOBSTER COOKOFF #OVERLYHONESTMETHODS"
23:10:45 <Bike> kind of wonder if they actually do that. i mean there /are/ a lot of lobsters involved here.......
23:11:59 <olsner> it seems more ethical to kill animals for research if you also eat them for food
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23:54:23 <pikhq> It's pretty darned easy to set up an organization.
23:59:42 <olsner> yes, even I've set up an organization once
23:59:51 <kmc> it's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake
23:59:53 <olsner> (it was an anime society)