< 1378685432 486722 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1378686169 266489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptography fans might find this interesting http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1517 < 1378686257 464863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What was long a plausible conjecture—that the NSA covertly influences cryptographic standards to give itself backdoors, and that otherwise-inexplicable vulnerabilities in deployed cryptosystems are sometimes there because the NSA wanted them there—now looks close to an established fact." < 1378686261 6923 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378686399 54127 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ugh why does he have to give probabilities like that < 1378686427 911805 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378686428 773564 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do you think you're fooling, you're clearly just using 99% as a convenient rhetorical default < 1378686431 163720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T KNOW < 1378686483 769034 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378686584 72961 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378686903 670523 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm about to say something very stupid < 1378686941 292480 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to implement multiplication for numbers-as-strings-of-digits quite recently and I've read a few articles about multiplications algorithms < 1378686970 745642 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it may have been because I was missing a lot of sleep but at several points I was under the impression that their explanations about complexity were wrong < 1378686987 366702 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378687002 444095 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance they were calculating the complexity in function of the number of digits of a number n < 1378687022 347925 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes ended with a conclusion "therefore this algorithm is O(n^3)" < 1378687043 465657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a stupid typo, really. < 1378687056 137727 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured as much but it happened several times < 1378687060 79620 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just now I read this: < 1378687103 893942 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378687146 15388 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay wait a minute my copy pasting has magically replaced spaces with newlines < 1378687161 807998 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i commend you for catching it before you actually pasted. < 1378687226 441229 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factoring is hard. Despite centuries of effort by some of the world's smartest mathematicians and computer scientists, the fastest methods for factoring a number N take time exponential in the number of bits of N. < 1378687235 444193 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378687242 34352 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the important part is "exponential in the number of bits" < 1378687267 852262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1378687277 849435 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I missing something or is he saying it's exponential in a logarithm, which is called being linear in my town? < 1378687323 794573 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh or is that because the logarithm is not the same base as the exponential < 1378687337 603477 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's bad to say "exponential in the number of bits" even if that does mean linear < 1378687337 749023 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exponential with respect to the size of the input, which is measured in bits, I think < 1378687342 653794 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "100 digit input" vs "200 digit input" < 1378687348 26816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're missing something: the number of bits of the input is the standard x which you measure complexity as a function of. < 1378687348 556440 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 200 digit input is twice the size, not 10^100 the size < 1378687364 22428 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: different bases would only cause a constant multiplicative factor, which is nothing anybody cares about in complexity :p < 1378687381 587317 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hum < 1378687387 169930 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the first thing was only a typo? < 1378687393 268724 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which first thing < 1378687397 946518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which fir.. < 1378687403 144192 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome oerjan < 1378687410 401006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome oerjan < 1378687412 597155 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1378687416 157339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks shachaf < 1378687417 778325 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, shachaf. Thachaf. < 1378687427 899204 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: for instance they were calculating the complexity in function of the number of digits of a number n < 1378687428 118452 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[02:37] Koen_: and sometimes ended with a conclusion "therefore this algorithm is O(n^3)" < 1378687431 72573 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that first thing < 1378687456 627636 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with that? < 1378687463 494542 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :schoolboy multiplication is n³ i think < 1378687471 44129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the typo is using the same variable n for both the number and what you're measuring complexity as a function of (which should be the _size_ of the number, not the number.) < 1378687479 331952 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378687483 835734 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378687485 477365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's wrong because it not the same n in the two lines < 1378687488 940608 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that'd be some kind of typo < 1378687490 811708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's < 1378687495 90122 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so everything is working right in the world and I was just imagining things < 1378687501 274320 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1378687504 700960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1378687504 853721 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1378687505 252792 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1378687505 443292 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ c.c  >\ /'\|   |     |\ c.c  >\    |    /^\|/|  c.c  >\ < 1378687505 807463 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /´¯|_)              /´\ < 1378687506 291657 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_|                 (_| |_) < 1378687581 841333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when does celebrate contain c.c < 1378687582 159858 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                  c.c.c < 1378687582 304974 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                   c.c < 1378687602 293482 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't deny the seraphim their celebration! < 1378687657 732337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text . unwords . replicate 20 $ " c.c " < 1378687657 990829 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                    c.c.c < 1378687658 168082 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                     c.c < 1378687658 349821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i updated it to include new myndzi features < 1378687658 615560 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.... < 1378687664 642364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text . unwords . replicate 5 $ " c.c " < 1378687664 928954 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                   c.c.c < 1378687665 91907 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                    c.c < 1378687665 551116 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c < 1378687665 806519 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c < 1378687665 951705 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      c.c   c.c   c.c   c.c   c.c < 1378687683 80288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: ꙮ.ꙮ < 1378687694 222727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ꙮ.ꙮ < 1378687697 913324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ.ꙮ.ꙮ < 1378687698 781272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ꙮ.ꙮ < 1378687705 346674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless bot < 1378687708 206051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to do everything myself < 1378687717 870283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i invent computers for anyway < 1378687745 367135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't, do you think you're al gore or something? < 1378687772 997934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pota < 1378687774 993600 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378687779 341926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking. < 1378687788 22825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm the giant on whose shoulders al gore stoode < 1378687790 147510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$// < 1378687796 887315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potato < 1378687799 677857 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378687799 971368 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378687800 116379 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1378687812 768559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potatoe < 1378687814 626774 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoe? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378687823 896090 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1378687824 41066 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            o/`¯º < 1378687870 422400 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is so popular today < 1378687929 561070 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, do you like the underscore? it's the new style < 1378687932 950136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c < 1378687933 276266 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c.c < 1378687933 435375 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c < 1378687940 347701 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not grace_notes < 1378687941 162454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :c·c·c < 1378687946 766329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : c°c < 1378687948 384853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1378687952 464422 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Changing host < 1378687952 609622 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1378687968 559581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: plz fix the weather thx < 1378687975 878321 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :got identified, back < 1378687983 743573 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weather's fine < 1378687986 500239 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope I didn't miss anything < 1378687987 523371 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes_: why not grace_notes < 1378688006 880820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google palo alto weather < 1378688007 378991 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found. < 1378688011 760623 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is probably registering it as we speak < 1378688016 483682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :29° right now :'( < 1378688016 659351 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no weather found < 1378688020 575675 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an arms race < 1378688028 428112 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's going to be a high of 90F pretty much all week < 1378688036 150754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 90f in c < 1378688037 306762 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :32.2222222 degrees Celsius < 1378688037 452118 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.myscienceproject.org/beer.html < 1378688037 452299 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: How to Keep Beer Cold < 1378688039 344109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 90f in real degrees < 1378688040 431448 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :to use regional measurements < 1378688040 743875 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070712040823AABeQ2f < 1378688040 889294 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: What is 90 degrees fahrenheit in celcius? - Yahoo! Answers < 1378688057 950512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ol' buddy Yahoo! Answers knows what's up < 1378688085 830100 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sanetemp 90 < 1378688086 959589 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like 25? < 1378688087 264885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: sanetemp: not found < 1378688093 741249 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sanetemp 90 < 1378688096 231612 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :32.2 < 1378688100 274947 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow go me. < 1378688104 898550 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be google that knows what's up < 1378688145 208320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure i'm not allowed to talk about that in public, Gracenotes_ < 1378688212 165696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo http://www.theonion.com/articles/ford-develops-new-suv-that-runs-purely-on-gasoline,33568/ < 1378688227 381056 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 30C in real degrees < 1378688229 15334 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://calculator-converter.com/converter_c_to_f_celsius_to_fahrenheit_calculator.php < 1378688229 160713 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: C to F Convert Celsius to Fahrenheit and Fahrenheit to Celsius degrees Conver... < 1378688250 276621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`units < 1378688256 7932 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :just gasoline? doesn't even need oxygen? < 1378688275 404238 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. extraordinary < 1378688278 323923 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing in that way < 1378688281 436217 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2527 units, 72 prefixes, 56 nonlinear units \ \ You have: < 1378688337 631549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run units '90 degF' degC < 1378688339 2729 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ * 50 \ / 0.02 < 1378688346 831934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378688417 341832 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 300 kelvin in real degrees < 1378688418 314573 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/temperature/kelvin-to-fahrenheit.htm < 1378688418 459914 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Kelvin to Fahrenheit (�F) degrees converter < 1378688432 817600 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just skip to reamur < 1378688435 139859 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well, enough of this < 1378688748 933757 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty bad today, though < 1378688761 557111 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :my chocolate that was just sitting on my desk, not in the sun, melted < 1378688780 809574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly chocolate < 1378688783 954740 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hands got very chocolatey as I was figuring it out < 1378688784 242533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the desk isn't for sitting < 1378688785 966787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the chair < 1378688786 262819 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ate them anyway < 1378688893 250307 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get a fan < 1378688933 473331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't we all fans of Gracenotes_ < 1378688976 28959 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378689050 263606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the fundamental way you talk to the GPIO pins on the Raspberry Pi is that you mmap() /dev/mem and just start poking shit < 1378689065 675885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as continuing the educational legacy of 80s microcomputers, I approve < 1378689171 85370 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a while, you could tell iOS to map arbitrary regions of memory to a device < 1378689176 173446 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how we did a lot of sneaky stuff < 1378689187 271238 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/fucktheworld < 1378689195 909028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1378689227 704935 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually how we circumvented their hardware encryption, which stumped us for months < 1378689270 110337 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, it wasn't the standard endorsed way to do things in iOS, just a feature apple forgot to remove in their kernel builds for a while, until they realized what we were doing with it < 1378689311 230808 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, this is more-or-less what PCI and PCIe is, yeah < 1378689321 201007 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :peeking and poking < 1378689329 741645 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes Gracenotes_  < 1378689338 766989 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378689349 732840 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION giggles < 1378689366 676731 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: say, are you going to ICFP, by any chance? < 1378689367 702430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: why don't you come poke him face to face!! < 1378689373 185970 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378689375 174486 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes_: yup < 1378689384 278077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't. :-( < 1378689387 510385 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo. I plan on attending the Haskell bits. < 1378689389 192563 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to register still < 1378689401 140032 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :( < 1378689411 795551 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes_: how about the main event? that's what I'll be at < 1378689413 296669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Maybe next year! < 1378689422 54371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not. < 1378689426 130944 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't it be somewhere exotic next year? < 1378689428 661873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd better come visit to be on the safe side. < 1378689430 540479 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost never in the US! < 1378689434 361967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm, that's true. < 1378689443 434743 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I might sneak in the first day for the main event < 1378689443 747694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outside the US is a lot more trouble. < 1378689501 366358 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378689509 13167 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1378689533 344142 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first day is dependent types, both keynote and session, as well as things like data parallelism and fun/pearls. < 1378689540 996617 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I have a flight in the evening < 1378689551 378266 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that, there are 3 days of Haskell things < 1378689601 998730 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then I will be missing SPJ's talk about the work he's done with Computing at School, but hopefully that will be recorded < 1378689627 542401 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, this underscore is too heavy < 1378689630 926471 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes NICK :Gracenotes < 1378689642 185885 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378690039 209293 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is < 1378690365 845073 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378691290 184203 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378691701 547352 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378691845 904027 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: around? < 1378691864 753093 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1378691919 269397 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up? < 1378691996 130783 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378692144 561026 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378692155 124675 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant? < 1378692214 863116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: /whois is thataway < 1378692220 289220 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378692220 675765 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378692227 894300 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378692279 326887 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What am I missing here? < 1378692319 401765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the account < 1378692345 638052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as the cloak. < 1378692428 264611 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So constant is variable is a FreeBSD person. Why does that warrant pinging me? < 1378692475 38855 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also may be using, or pretending to be using, root < 1378692492 471986 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't see how I got caught up in this < 1378692520 606392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know about that, but e _is_ a regular. < 1378692551 693168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Sgeo is asking why you mentioned /whois. < 1378692576 570362 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean to accidently imply that e isn't a regular, I just want to know why e pinged me < 1378692582 83548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i interpreted "constant?" as Sgeo not knowing who e was. < 1378692591 620641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine: shachaf: around? Hi What's up? [...] oerjan? < 1378692617 946368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNIMAGINABLE < 1378692678 743953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note constant hasn't spoken since the line, maybe e's lost connection somewhere. < 1378692739 797808 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm back < 1378692741 889659 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do you know Ada ? < 1378692762 490110 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378692771 915928 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know one thing about Ada, which I mentioned last time Ada was mentioned: a and b or c is invalid, you need parentheses < 1378692791 261987 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ah, okay < 1378692815 500202 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else know Ada? < 1378692827 162047 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be an Ada IRC channel < 1378692832 871623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There is. < 1378692834 471950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were there. < 1378692891 300353 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting that < 1378692893 305840 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1378692905 510666 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1378693310 659883 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378693370 462512 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378693821 476689 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378693955 170757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's that thing you do when you delete spam that makes it not show up in recent changes any longer :( < 1378693969 805954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently clicking rollback wasn't it. < 1378694076 337404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that elliott doesn't look online < 1378694079 716257 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378694087 89009 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hide anonymous useres" < 1378694111 101170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i'm talking about hiding it from _others_ unless they show bots. < 1378694116 945242 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's asleep fyi < 1378694121 282878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1378694198 285252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART :#esoteric < 1378694239 127356 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to change user statuses, there is Special:UserRights < 1378694318 533606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your opinions of Ellsberg paradox? < 1378694330 581426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i do not think we are talking about the same feature. < 1378694381 437564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 used to do this thing whenever there was major spamming going on. < 1378694501 895569 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you can try marking that user as a bot, if that is what you wanted < 1378694502 758199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i don't have access to Special:UserRights anyway, and i'm pretty sure ais523 doesn't have more rights than me. < 1378694509 85805 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378694525 754698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe that's what he did. < 1378694553 648667 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :he does have extra rights: check users (accept IP info), bureaucrat < 1378694597 335274 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the default configuration, bureaucrats are able to change rights such as admin status. In other configs, admins can change statuses like the ability to rollback. < 1378694598 463121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he have it back then? < 1378694626 449135 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378694715 60779 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :started February 18, 2012. < 1378694745 5536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own conclusion (hopefully I did it correctly) is that if no probability can be assigned to the number of black and yellow balls (and that it isn't any kind of deception or any other psychological factors of the people who put the balls in there), then either AD or BC should be selected. < 1378694760 652123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he got it when elliott took over the wiki, but what i'm talking about he did before that, when spam was getting out of hand < 1378694830 439276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have made a mistake though. < 1378694841 993024 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: AD makes sense to me. < 1378694924 255091 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he's deleted over 4000 spam pages < 1378694946 163614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deletion is not what i'm talking about here < 1378694989 932851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about reverting spam edits to an already existing page, without it showing up in the default recent changes. < 1378694990 452566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: What is your reasoning? < 1378695036 155257 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they are the ones with definite probabilities < 1378695052 492704 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I'd be thinking about it adversarially < 1378695071 537316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that isn't a full reasoning. < 1378695138 582518 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Between A and B, A has probability 33%, B as 0-66%. rounding a bit. < 1378695147 710202 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has 33-100%. D has 66%. < 1378695301 345762 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :My strategy is maximizing the minimum. There's just not enough information to make an optimality argument. < 1378695352 284604 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378695406 370065 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most real world situations involving missing information, there are no numbers, either for the probabilities or the amount of uncertainty. < 1378695434 371895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also maximizing the minimum. < 1378695575 922230 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that is my view. What complications are introduced by that? < 1378695973 838917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am maximizing the minimum expected gain according to probabilities. < 1378696014 490185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing you have failed to consider is that you should consider both gambles together using whatever same amount of black and yellow balls there are; the amount is the same for both gambles. < 1378696149 33702 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, both gambles occur together? I see. < 1378696151 430024 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378696210 509663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did make these assumptions, that the number of the balls is the same each time, and that the ball picked is replaced before picking again, as well as that you must select both gambles before the first ball is picked. < 1378696245 118518 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so 0%-66% scales with 100%-33% respectively. < 1378696297 450181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I have not yet considered is if you want to instead maximize the probability of winning at least $100. < 1378696320 609569 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the amount is the same for both gambles" is a pretty big assumption < 1378696340 208081 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :not big as in unreasonable, but more important, I expect < 1378696361 570681 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the analysis < 1378696700 592566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wikipedia article also makes that assumption (although I make these assumptions even regardless of Wikipedia). < 1378696863 620705 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably plot the probabilities of winning $0, $100, and $200 for all four combinations as blacks vary from 0 to 60 < 1378696925 34320 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were less lazy. < 1378696933 680368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I would do the same < 1378696943 400710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I were less lazy) < 1378697012 462665 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :then make my decision based on either assuming a uniform distribution or an adversarial distribution (I would probably go for the latter) < 1378697072 778550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is an "adversarial distribution"? < 1378697914 903182 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of black balls an adversary would put when they know your strategy and are trying to minimize your gains. < 1378697992 746570 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :distribution refers to the distribution of black/yellow balls < 1378698123 225223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OK. < 1378698144 704294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes it is also what I was considering, but not because there actually is such an adversary; it is because such thing is unknown. < 1378698150 516792 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do fun things like have a strategy like 'flip a fair coin to decide between AD and BC', in which case your adversary's calculation would get more complicated, but still possible. < 1378698175 365297 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :In crypto, people have fun strategies like 'flip 256 random coins' < 1378698189 848906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, things like that too, I suppose, can be. < 1378698254 876828 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I'm off to get dinner. sadly, I might buy it from walgreens, but it'll be okay. < 1378698557 401197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will it be < 1378698718 843050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In one book I read about Newcomb's paradox, my own strategy as soon as I read it was toss a coin. However, later in a book by Gardner, they said it is empty if you select at random. < 1378699727 290288 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so, how about now? one-box or two-box? < 1378699913 505255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It depends. "The Predictor can be presented as a psychic, as a superintelligent alien, as a deity, as a brain-scanning computer, etc." So it depends on these things and on other details not specified here. < 1378699922 243085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as about how much money I need. < 1378699946 344724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on things that happen between the prediction and my actual selection. < 1378699952 299495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are too many factors to consider. < 1378700049 948058 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: assume that you want to maximize your profit and that the predictor has shown 99% accuracy in all demonstrations to date < 1378700141 186428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but still, what kind of predictor? Still, I wouldn't really know until I actually got the chance to pick, although I can try to guess. < 1378700382 891967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also want to know why I am being given these choices (even if they lie to me when telling the reason, it doesn't matter) < 1378700396 220469 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: guess what you would pick if all you knew was what i just told you. you don't know if the predictor is psychic or just very well-informed, but you do know he is right 99% so far. < 1378700434 949559 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378700440 893808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are being given these choices as an alternative to humanity being destroyed < 1378700448 594467 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't pick, we all must die < 1378700462 68584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, I don't care. < 1378700490 207210 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1378700539 165867 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378700565 700937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it difficult to answer, but I don't care, and probably won't pick any (although other people can pick one if they want to) < 1378700592 152264 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1378700780 873305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humanity is only a very minor part of the universe, and I am even a more minor thing in the universe. < 1378700897 352281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378700902 525885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it isn't necessarily a bad thing (although not being destroyed is also not necessarily a bad thing) < 1378700935 250749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in other words, there still isn't enough information!!! < 1378701123 390500 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378701221 668226 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378701396 96748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of some other paradoxes (whether or not they are mentioned in Wikipedia)? < 1378701593 865347 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :newcomb isn't really a paradox, just a problem < 1378701606 906351 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's bell's paradox < 1378701609 795348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1378701794 509610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprachlogik.blogspot.com/2011/02/liar-paradox-of-material-implication.html < 1378701840 720874 :tertu3!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378701955 502167 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=1371 the engineer paradox, not mentioned in wikipedia to my knowledge < 1378702021 704211 :tertu3!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378702033 299130 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378702048 652289 :tertu3!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378702065 207177 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2148 also "the paradox of the court" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_the_Court < 1378702071 566399 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :going back, I do see that the interesting bit about the Ellsberg paradox is that some ways of knowing what you don't know help you more than others. < 1378702157 609828 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interesting bit < 1378702236 378626 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you know the curry paradox? < 1378702287 966589 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :how it's both sweet and savory? < 1378702432 263636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can see now, I saw it before but forgot < 1378702481 276287 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this sentence is true, then you'll forget again. < 1378702515 27194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see that it doesn't work due to nontermination, I think < 1378702933 459089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fuckyeahx11.tumblr.com/ < 1378702994 359070 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1378703015 331215 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many levels of irony are involved here help < 1378703112 155128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ε₀ < 1378703123 720909 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumblr wants me to "Never miss a post!" < 1378703130 907495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am i bad for answering a "how many" question with an ordinal < 1378703147 329918 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ur good < 1378703169 5589 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's epsilon zero again? the fixed point of x -> \omega ^ x? < 1378703231 434729 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow i actually got that mostly right. < 1378703354 51417 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((sqrt 2) ^) < 1378703355 134382 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1378703355 279666 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M777596952.sho... < 1378703380 590340 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it saying it can't show undefined < 1378703438 491658 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it intentional that the background, like, flashes when you scroll? < 1378703477 741651 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...lol, it does. < 1378703481 703504 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough xeyes tbh < 1378703541 103185 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, especially not here. http://fuckyeahx11.tumblr.com/image/2385309201 < 1378703593 542024 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the superior computer program. < 1378703655 586348 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378703798 740885 :tertu3!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378703942 347952 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t sqrt < 1378703943 76056 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a < 1378703946 269139 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378703947 994406 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^) < 1378703948 708603 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral b, Num a) => a -> b -> a < 1378703980 191314 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't be bothered to remember all of haskell's numeric crap < 1378703983 312335 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you know, you can't be Floating and Integral at the same time. it's totally impossible < 1378703983 996686 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (**) < 1378703984 683345 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a -> a < 1378703987 767059 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^^) < 1378703988 527599 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fractional a, Integral b) => a -> b -> a < 1378703999 598186 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it won't work anyway obviously. < 1378704002 864595 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378704005 31343 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((sqrt 2) **) < 1378704012 194470 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1378704014 671746 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though 2 is a better answer!! it's terrible < 1378704030 507640 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it finds the least fixpoint of definedness. < 1378704042 842524 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :thar you go. job done. raises for all. < 1378704071 763657 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378704075 786296 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, yeah. < 1378704100 58401 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want the fun answer, man. :( < 1378704147 618988 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378704317 790299 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :risky business being around engineers tho < 1378704326 670192 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1378704370 267932 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :no levity is safe < 1378704428 640797 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1378704455 576231 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378704626 583581 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378704683 83371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When people are trying to solve my Pokemon card puzzles I find that often people try many solutions that don't work (often believing they do work; sometimes the mistake is due to ignoring some important information). < 1378704705 418129 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :available online? < 1378704731 383130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes they are available online < 1378704757 460156 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you be able to link them? < 1378704797 709850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/pokemon_card/puzzle.* Replace the * with a number 1 to 5 (more might be added later) < 1378704813 994114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a glossary, see the file "terminology.txt" in the same directory. < 1378704839 969964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are all plain text; no HTML or Unicode is used) < 1378704951 1725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1378705261 491939 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been a while since I've played, this or another CCG, so I don't have enough intuition for it, but I do like the idea of it. Do people make these for e.g. Magic? (I mean, that's Turing complete via tokens.) < 1378705278 2764 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see how some of the listed mechanics can interact. < 1378705306 431236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes people do make them for Magic much more, or at least they used to; I don't know how common it is more recently. < 1378705325 112690 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and 'white to checkmate' or 'black to live' is of course the older variant) < 1378705464 301704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Older variant of what? Chess? < 1378705503 780851 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess, Go, etc. < 1378705557 996790 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puzzles using game mechanics. (One video game I like, DROD, is pretty much exclusively composed of this.) < 1378705832 439156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also tsume shogi and other puzzles involving game mechanics I suppose too < 1378706010 6834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there can be puzzle games somewhat based on other games < 1378706040 150786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Do you know anything about the rules of Pokemon card? If you have some questions, I can answer them. < 1378706048 883124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The glossary doesn't contain the rules for the game.) < 1378706176 428496 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think when I was 10 -.- < 1378706212 550212 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least partly, as every time I look at them they are deeper than I remember. probably more 'collectible' than 'card game', at the time. < 1378706313 430118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you be specific? < 1378706496 281936 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have any specific recollections, nor questions. I might not try my hand at solving your puzzles, but I quite like the format of them, which I had no clue about previously. < 1378706552 708917 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378706611 36852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like these format too; is there anything specific you like about these formats, though, and other comments of it? < 1378706611 222328 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solutions are actually provided if you change "puzzle" to "solution", although best is to try to figure it out by yourself < 1378706611 868246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you don't want to try to solve them and just want an example of a solution you could look at one of them to see how the game works kind of < 1378706757 868182 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378706764 442875 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378706857 84401 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, looking at the solution of one of them, it seems as though it does require a bit of domain-specific knowledge. < 1378706885 670806 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378706910 473153 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see all of the nice constraints falling into the place, where it magically happens that there's only one solution < 1378706938 290997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which solution are you viewing? < 1378706981 845558 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, just of #1 < 1378707145 551625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some of the steps may be commutative, in this and other solutions. < 1378707174 735474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, step 1 and 2 can be swapped. < 1378707190 351729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than these kind of things, I believe the solutions to be unique. < 1378707381 110886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, except in the first two puzzles, the opponent gets a turn too. < 1378707460 505443 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1378707482 905152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fifth puzzle is even more complicated than the others. < 1378707619 572216 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :when people find bad solutions, is it because they misunderstand mechanics, or don't think of all ways opponent could counter, or stuff like that? < 1378707635 105618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are sure you won't try it later, view that puzzle too and view that solution too (although perhaps first read the card data mentioned) < 1378707657 326824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Sometimes those are the reasons. Other times it is because they fail to read the entire file. < 1378707730 180382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think the glossary is good though, even only considering what you know about it? (Some of these things come from chess) < 1378707761 708892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have any puzzles for Pokemon card or Magic: the Gathering or some other game, I would still like to see it please! < 1378708093 748503 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378708118 729687 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :glossary is a pleasant game, largely because of metagame exposition :) < 1378708168 930159 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/game/read/, dunno where that came from. also, almost wrote game from. < 1378708267 701925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any opinions on individual entries, suggestions for improvement, or new entries which could be added? < 1378708480 613084 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378708484 584001 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378708506 932081 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, not that I can think of. also, I do like the ASCII approximation of water symbol < 1378708518 904852 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and others too < 1378709401 598909 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378709632 284200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people like them; some other people do not like them. I do like these symbols, which is why I used them. < 1378711724 680982 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378712956 433140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I see use of comments in an example computer program code which are placeholder for the other things that belong in its place. I think a better way would be use a chunk inclusion syntax of WEB, so that you can know it is not a comment. < 1378712992 266555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Furthermore, using the chunk inclusion syntax, it will actually compile and work properly, too.) < 1378713042 600760 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378713671 598220 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378714203 659797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378714426 584806 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378714982 745871 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378716840 56071 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378717709 289063 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1378719832 812735 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378721631 330331 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378721649 889723 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378721758 210110 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378722367 305938 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378722560 346610 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378723007 870395 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378723350 221821 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378725797 93692 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378726198 684866 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378727456 713089 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378727659 419167 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378727754 268199 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378727779 413719 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378728713 498146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378728756 655649 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378728987 145858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good vegetarian morning! < 1378729061 499801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ah, first time I've heard of that. I'd say go for unstable, fsdvo unstable. < 1378729214 664469 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378729516 670665 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378729729 270058 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378730022 525531 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1378730053 664360 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378730142 559106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthello! < 1378730190 166168 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not vegetarian morning you know < 1378730193 244805 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkey bacon < 1378730214 150622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't vegetarian morning indeed, but yesterday night was. < 1378730229 751810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I guess nutella toasts are vegetarian, no? at least the OJ was.) < 1378730524 255921 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378731540 794409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1378731542 759569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1378731556 11071 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378731576 495520 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like cookies < 1378731616 141599 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not my favourite type of biscuit but they're fine < 1378731642 405137 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://www.commercialbakeries.com/images/CookieOptions/CommericalCookiesProductsThumbBig.jpg < 1378731672 840718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes those < 1378731684 231134 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this subway didn't give me a receipt < 1378731690 310943 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can't take the survey < 1378731697 321996 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get a free cookie < 1378731731 317343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis a sad world where cookies aren't free to be freed. < 1378731784 586486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never actually seen leaf shaped cookies before < 1378731789 350726 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1378731791 452818 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378731797 208737 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seem like they'd be hard to make at home < 1378731803 464418 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378731910 38158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think you can get cookie cutters for that, but you can get them in any respectable Canadian grocery. < 1378731924 584975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I shouldn't, but it's very tempting... < 1378731928 258158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Frooxius < 1378731932 374652 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Froox10ius: Welcome to the international10 hub fo07r e07soteri04c pro05gramming la08nguage design and dep14l13oy05ment! Fo02r more04 inform06a12tion, check05 out13 our 12wiki: ht06tp://esolangs.org/wiki/04Ma08in_Page09. (03Fo14r the13 other kind o04f esoterica, try #eso12te11ri12c on08 irc03.dal.net.) < 1378731949 848715 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're at the wrong end of canadia < 1378732066 804089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah. humbug. it may be the wrong end, but it's a pretty wrong end. < 1378732147 662538 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this area is pretty < 1378732260 746394 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378732311 250056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: are you still in Newton? < 1378732445 346755 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378732470 860426 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378732573 409596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellorick. hellomp. helloqy. < 1378732733 637795 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1378734035 794092 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: would you like a box of «biscuits feuille d'érable»? < 1378734457 700215 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378734564 49326 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378734593 615570 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378734640 4230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ter2 < 1378734641 920918 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0403t05er2: Welcome to 12the international hub 07f04or esoter14ic progra04mmi14ng 05language design an14d deploym03ent! For more inform02ation, ch07eck ou06t our 11wiki: 09htt08p://13es10ola14ng04s.o11rg/wiki/Main_P05age.11 07(For the o08ther kind o14f esot13erica, try #esoteric on irc03.da09l11.net.) < 1378735528 116989 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am nowhere near newton < 1378735541 469009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i will gladly eat cookies < 1378735617 761771 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: where is the approximate nowhere where you are at? I'll need that relevant info to send you the cookies. < 1378735800 31317 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you going to post them to me? < 1378736122 783493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'd prefer to send them by submarine, but alas it is not practical in this reality-set. therefore, I'll have to do with Postes Canada and USPS. < 1378736190 432593 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :send them to David Rutter, Gen. Delivery, Gorham, NH 03581. if they arrive in a week or less, i will get them. < 1378736256 513871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to be the travelling guy... oh well. let's do hope the postal services will be fast enough. < 1378736526 408914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like our bilingual site... «Veuillez vérifier kind of biscuits») < 1378738279 422105 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378738519 253752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nisstyrello. < 1378738600 353658 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378739100 536808 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, you can't just announce your address on the internet like that!! < 1378739401 189652 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378739603 574818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378739724 955833 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378740623 165198 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378741257 372453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so what, he just gave me the post office's address. he appröximates like a gentleman. < 1378741348 455764 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are making me hate the diaeresis < 1378741357 768765 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the diaeresis < 1378741372 594464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :̈) < 1378741383 457284 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you boily < 1378741456 249182 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lö̤ve you too. < 1378741479 181853 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :diæ̈resis < 1378741780 918087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three seconds away from banning the diaeresis here!! < 1378741949 183751 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378741975 584247 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378742806 511589 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378742833 562813 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378743076 583550 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378743568 432139 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378744804 880805 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378744986 678982 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378745089 910902 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378745488 863524 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378745647 187981 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378745674 687625 :NihilistDandy!~ND@132.198.9.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378745901 540511 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378745976 410169 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378746331 664013 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the diæresis is still alive. in heaven, everything is fine. you got your good thing, and I've got mine. < 1378746469 187214 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still at lunch < 1378746471 395865 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a gyro < 1378746479 426968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i want another thing < 1378746486 697100 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378746537 601767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only proper time to eat gyros, kebabs, shishes and other shawarmas is when the sun is down. < 1378746890 45225 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't make the sun go down sorry < 1378746898 778785 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have to eat now < 1378747416 674096 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you eat a gyro < 1378747425 766977 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, don't tell me < 1378747439 3623 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mental image i have is more interesting and delicious than whatever you actually ate < 1378747464 748819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm telling you < 1378747470 962906 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put it in your mouth < 1378747475 5736 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bite < 1378747477 33828 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :chew < 1378747477 433312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nobody really styles their element with { display: inline }, for the most part" < 1378747479 384790 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and swallow < 1378747482 551355 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a mental image of Phantom_Hoover having a mental image of quintopia imagining eating a gyro. < 1378747499 78648 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what < 1378747505 174027 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: “for the most part”??? < 1378747573 966547 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it nonsense to set display: inline for the html element? < 1378747648 99738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... considering the state of everything web-based, it is only slightly nonsenser to inline . < 1378747804 165518 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378747841 418183 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«"More Research Urgently Needed on Caffeine," says Journal of Caffeine Research» http://view.liebertpubmail.com/?j=fe631771746400747011&m=ff281776736c&ls=fdc615737c6004787d17787564&l=fe61157870640678741c&s=fe1f1079726c037e751c72&jb=ffcf14&ju=fe2317777464027b7c1375&r=0 < 1378747865 906547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1378747913 284069 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :journal of trippin' research < 1378748186 765534 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gosh I'm so excited for more caffeine research!!!!!" said the caffeine researcher, jittering as he frantically tried to come up with the words to describe the energetic feelings coursing through his body < 1378748208 687813 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1378748218 799367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«my glassware, let me show you it» < 1378748224 859672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378748244 378286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately if you consume enough caffeine it stops doing anything at all < 1378748244 523483 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a drug reference? < 1378748264 525591 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caffeeine is a drug, yes < 1378748267 589414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it starts curing headaches, depending on how you look at it < 1378748370 863532 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "if you consume enough caffeine it stops doing anything at all" // my life < 1378748408 137431 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get off my lawn you punk druggies < 1378748428 898383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ain't no punk. < 1378748464 663578 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote "gosh I'm so excited for more caffeine research!!!!!" said the caffeine researcher, jittering as he frantically tried to come up with the words to describe the energetic feelings coursing through his body < 1378748468 890514 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1103) "gosh I'm so excited for more caffeine research!!!!!" said the caffeine researcher, jittering as he frantically tried to come up with the words to describe the energetic feelings coursing through his body < 1378748494 910675 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a lyttle lytton entry < 1378748506 585869 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's always lyttle lytton with you < 1378748510 735892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like more work for me :p < 1378748511 997745 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more to life than lytton!! < 1378748515 979899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a great rant about hippies in one of the mushroom books in my living room < 1378748523 637381 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything should be all lyttle lytton all the time < 1378748549 660800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the author is tired of hippies asking him stupid questions about mushrooms and so devotes a page or so to attacking their whole attitude and worldview < 1378748576 428419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it ends with basically "if you want to trip that's fine, just don't ask me dumb questions" < 1378748610 527297 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of these shrooms are like the ones the olmecs used to talk to Gilgamesh < 1378748630 265724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck olmec < 1378748630 410874 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Olmec were the first major civilization in Mexico. < 1378748635 399088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck gilgamesh < 1378748635 561420 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mythology The semidivine king of Erech, a city of southern Babylonia, and hero of an epic collection of mythic tales, one of which tells of a flood that covered the earth. < 1378748639 66263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck mushroom < 1378748639 321957 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushroom definition: an enlarged complex aboveground fleshy fruiting body of a fungus (as a basidiomycete) that consists typically of a stem bearing a pileus; '''especially'''. < 1378748651 850314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bike < 1378748651 995293 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike definition: '''chiefly Scottish''' a nest of wild bees, wasps, or hornets. < 1378748665 709818 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378748669 34922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1378748705 497427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely fail to see the link made by a chiefly Scottish bike between ancient mexicans, ancient mesopotamians, and modern fungi. < 1378748718 997624 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0kay < 1378748721 278398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice "mushroom" is used to describe fruiting bodies of some ascomycetes as well < 1378748736 586290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern fungot < 1378748736 820873 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: of course, i know < 1378748751 815386 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is scared. very, very scared. < 1378748884 354038 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of fungot? < 1378748884 716247 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: process 2 killed. it's a mammal ( fnord) be top level? < 1378748925 340846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a mammal? < 1378748925 835288 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but it doesn't answer my question dammit. you're right. i'm getting strange. mit scheme is < 1378748934 982227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mit scheme is a mammal. < 1378748942 109665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not surprising < 1378748976 417200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dons his +3 hazmat-mail of sentient bot warding < 1378748980 349648 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378748995 537874 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(every piece of armour is *-mail. chain mail. scale mail. plate mail...) < 1378749103 684371 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, do we have any D-class personel on hand in this channel? < 1378749136 467893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :we used to have fungot? < 1378749136 838115 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: and some discordians say it's a clone of an operator < 1378749212 132796 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so fungot is a former D-class that got [REDACTED] into an IRC bot? < 1378749212 359375 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so " my client..." is < 1378749272 162167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, attorney at law < 1378749272 522492 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 1. it's not the size, it's the pty itself that eats it < 1378749274 689108 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: [REDACTED] < 1378749320 644444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: gross. < 1378749608 506493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck laukaa < 1378749608 652082 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laukaa is a municipality of Finland. < 1378749615 276151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense. < 1378749642 549944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My aunt and her family have a place in Laukaa. < 1378749661 436920 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the quotes... < 1378749663 919536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote laukaa < 1378749665 284413 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :823) fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1378749696 799951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: huh. One of the local TV channels is showing a program about baking at 04:15am-04:40am. I wonder if that has something to do with 420. < 1378749783 910417 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know a way to make my right shift key only work for things on the left-hand side of the keyboard? < 1378749792 219786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Would you like to explain where that quote came from? < 1378749792 574269 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i want to eat today :) prop. the best fnord < 1378749847 670286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'll feed you if you're helpful. < 1378749847 993512 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: create a new kind of shift, xmodmap and/or create a new layout that uses that shift. < 1378749848 138816 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's the entire point of forking and returning twice, or using cfunge_realerr. < 1378749921 227335 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: afraid of that < 1378749925 722303 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378749926 670581 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc lshift and rshift are already separate modifiers but every key just maps to the same character with both left and right shift < 1378749931 583632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grep suggests it was extracted from " somewhere in the forests of laukaa." from #douglasadams of IRCnet in 2003-03-29. < 1378749972 173952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's not a true, at least in X. < 1378749972 674343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: iianm, lshift and rshift are separate keys, but they point to the same index in a key's definition. < 1378750002 474561 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how about the (linux) console keymaps? < 1378750021 257956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I don't recall enough about that. < 1378750072 981618 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I get X to filter all keyboard commands through a daemon before going to other applications? < 1378750109 30930 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doing this with a kernel change would definitely be Not A Bad Idea I'm sure) < 1378750134 387028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ♪ding♪ you have quotes. < 1378750137 878361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplice that shit < 1378750170 859616 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplice was originally called keysplice and used for that exact purpose < 1378750220 521957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a bit of evdev called "uinput" that you can use to make an input device from userland. < 1378750234 977336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could have X read that, and source it from a real evdev device. < 1378750235 320053 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378750259 655840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sounds like quite the fiddly thing.) < 1378750315 459885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd probably need a xorg.conf with some custom Keyboard blockery, because -- IIRC -- by default X would read all keyboard(s), so you'd get both your injected events and the originals. < 1378750339 151059 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote at least as on-topic < 1378750340 899479 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :841) FireFly: oh, did you see ion's police reindeer? that was ... at least as on-topic as this discussion < 1378750376 36072 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: thanks for that very helpful fact < 1378750382 230182 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think that "..." is not a redaction, it's just a pause < 1378750468 484878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: woops. I'll change it. < 1378750592 855288 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I have this feeling that I should include alise's quotes somewhere... < 1378750668 782473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell alise where art thou nowst? < 1378750668 927953 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378750694 289276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the channel right now actually < 1378750764 110286 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you are alise? < 1378750768 966004 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1378750779 146149 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you? < 1378750779 597667 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: why do i need something to be desired, so it's all right, we are outside of the function < 1378750790 349615 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How philosophical < 1378750802 887347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: alise is the former D-class??? < 1378750830 877803 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, fungot is < 1378750831 418639 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: more or less automagically result in what the reader uses, though it would need to install loggerhead is good to hack in < 1378750913 44589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me brains are not happy. me need many more coffee today. < 1378750953 682273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? copumpkin < 1378750955 424631 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378750955 758457 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1378750955 903565 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              º¯`\o < 1378750981 835032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and may nobody come to me saying copumpkin is someone else without telling me who the someone else is. < 1378751031 365853 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think copumpkin has always been copumpkin < 1378751049 752975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. I feel reassured now. < 1378751072 120231 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have always been me < 1378751073 961800 :NihilistDandy!~ND@132.198.9.255 QUIT : < 1378751090 864282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Except when it transformed into a cocarriage briefly, I think. < 1378751197 912857 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378751203 629631 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, that I understand. the link is fairy evident. < 1378751250 421709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know: Google Chromebook Pixel's touchpad is: "analyzed and honed using a laser microscope for exceptional smoothness and accuracy". < 1378751258 554848 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh < 1378751279 651520 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honed... that's when you cover it in honey right? < 1378751289 498185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Covered in honey with lasers. < 1378751383 996995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honing... isn't that like when you attract missiles with honey? < 1378751702 603774 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378751704 422479 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378751762 173900 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora < 1378751765 261958 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Fiora < 1378751767 29751 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora. Thiora. < 1378751809 309686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thiora: the sulfur-bridged version of Fiora. < 1378751836 515271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378751887 581161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttants: theobromine, thiobromine, bromine < 1378751894 884175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ttants = Things That Are Not the Same) < 1378751913 36825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's shachaf :( < 1378751914 60973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: thiotimoline. < 1378751925 642860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do my usual "shachaf: did you know X" thing < 1378751930 342566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems silly if he's not actually here < 1378751946 59489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes < 1378751953 5593 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me just boot up my "shachaf simulation" < 1378751955 886653 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1378751967 842780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but here goes anyway < 1378751979 383549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I managed to parse that in such a way that it's true < 1378751989 660814 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"function factorial of 0 is 1" < 1378752001 631279 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1378752001 804360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: isn't it great how "ascii" and "iso8859-1" and "latin1" are all aliases for Windows-1252 on the Web < 1378752008 837536 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: !!!!! < 1378752009 290205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's the joke < 1378752013 549299 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378752015 644758 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh < 1378752017 709348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's SML syntax < 1378752018 876924 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh < 1378752024 240633 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb's mind is blown < 1378752032 125106 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh < 1378752035 94075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮh < 1378752042 133583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like shachaf parted because Fiora said I was asleep(?) < 1378752049 377545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing < 1378752055 919904 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what's the point of being in an elliottless channel < 1378752222 734423 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what? are those... flowers??? < 1378752226 124963 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i can't see "Ed Balls" in news now without chuckling. thx < 1378752239 539613 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: multioculi < 1378752240 664840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe it's coincidental? < 1378752264 93320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck multioculi < 1378752264 238550 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378752268 974441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck multioculus < 1378752269 119644 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378752273 389942 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck multiocular o < 1378752273 535200 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiocular O is the most rare and exotic glyph variant of Cyrillic letter O. This glyph variant can be found in certain manuscripts in the phrase . < 1378752278 836145 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesssss < 1378752301 846607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can I eat your brains, so that I may gain understanding of the Duck? < 1378752312 989584 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1378752319 386529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :killjoy. < 1378752324 106156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha, this is my gift to you < 1378752325 665466 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eatjoy < 1378752345 395098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the phrase is «серафими многоꙮчитїи» < 1378752353 693795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"many-eyed seraphim" < 1378752353 867021 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ed Balls tells #c4news if Cameron puts military action back on table, Labour will consider this" "haha, balls" -- my head < 1378752379 945620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a job title, "shadow chancellor" sounds much cooler than it is < 1378752448 54147 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, he used to be Secretary for Education < 1378752470 403552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as schools were concerned, the British government was balls. < 1378752570 251924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1378752574 713339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION subtly lurches over Bike with a pair of chopsticks and some light soy sauce < 1378752581 175968 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378752585 642510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke with ed balls isn't even "haha balls" although that can't hurt < 1378752595 561932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the amazing tweet he sent and the 2+ year running joke about it < 1378752632 115875 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ed Balls."? < 1378752649 703544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fullstop even < 1378752655 33665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ed-balls < 1378752843 629399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: if I were to include alise in the PDF, under which name shall I put him/her/them? < 1378753091 483047 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise is elliott < 1378753184 62083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ō_Ō. < 1378753192 270351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that. is. most. disturbing. < 1378753308 331598 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378753368 585340 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably not the word i'd use but okay < 1378753379 879257 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's disturbing about it? < 1378753517 730827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is even more ancient and insane that I previously thought. < 1378753537 614596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ♪dőng♪ your quotes are ready. < 1378753555 233113 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ban diaereses plx < 1378753614 23066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a diæresis, it's a double acute! < 1378753626 834234 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you try your french tricks on me < 1378753640 856106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi, it's a Hungarian trick. hth. :D < 1378753668 443163 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of Hungarian, have any of you tried sine mora? < 1378753720 894220 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378753805 198804 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungarian tricks? have you been sipping the szoup again? < 1378753821 468128 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, he's also ehird hth < 1378753957 962107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fungot. < 1378753958 432375 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but no frog games on any... emergent properties :) i'm writing a brainfuck to c " compiler" portion that runs on .net. < 1378753973 78414 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I wish. < 1378754136 215096 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ghci just really pokey < 1378754358 572914 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took about a minute to calculate fib 40 < 1378754490 663343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slow but shouldn't be that slow < 1378754521 497487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it depends on your fib though < 1378754543 500005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wrote fib n = fib (n-1) + fib (n-2) then you're doing O(2^n) work < 1378754552 993703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more preciself O(fib(n)), the algorithm's output is its running time!) < 1378754668 397142 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378754693 705445 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378754705 416354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tertu < 1378754705 562052 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378754834 629354 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378754862 307017 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378754949 905364 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378755206 298032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 0 : 1 : zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs) in fibs !! 40 < 1378755207 394796 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755210 961317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a biggish number. < 1378755218 681078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though not all *that* big.) < 1378755276 347406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix((0:).scanl(+)1)!!40 -- showing off < 1378755277 521831 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755539 208193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -e 'let fib 0 = 0; fib 1 = 1; fib n = fib (n-1) + fib (n-2) in fib 40' | time ghci => 173 seconds; echo '(define (fib n) (if (< n 2) n (+ (fib (- n 1)) (fib (- n 2))))) (fib 40)' | time csi => 47 seconds. < 1378755546 735342 :`^_^v!~nycs@ip-64-32-224-203.nyc.megapath.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378755596 190134 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 0 : 1 : uncurry (zipWith (+)) ((id &&& tail) fibs) in fibs !! 40 < 1378755597 424039 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755607 252195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo ♪d奥ng♪ you have quotes! < 1378755607 397438 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378755648 376694 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a CJK pictograph in place of an 'i'? < 1378755659 53259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought it was in place of an 'o'. < 1378755662 675911 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no, in place of an o. < 1378755668 338341 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1378755669 352257 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378755693 590535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the more quotes I have to format, the opener the vowel. < 1378755707 202871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I should have used an 'a' when Phantom_Hoovering...) < 1378755723 471247 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote FireFly < 1378755725 493753 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :57) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies \ 841) FireFly: oh, did you see ion's police reindeer? that was ... at least as on-topic as this discussion < 1378755736 921020 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378755757 70345 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 102334155 -- now *that's* code golf < 1378755757 913547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: your quote is in the file, if you want to check it. < 1378755758 213765 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755759 485485 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly is this pdf thing you're doing? < 1378755769 794534 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a file on me?! < 1378755780 721344 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: wow, impressive < 1378755793 654152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? oh, no. not at all. < 1378755800 386268 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x6197ecb -- Aww, no golf. < 1378755801 408068 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755808 626718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides the evidence under the... darn. there is no rug here, only wooden floors. < 1378755832 220345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 40 -- just in case the function exists... < 1378755833 283735 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `fib' < 1378755833 428896 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `fix' (imported from Data.Function) < 1378755875 562433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I'm reformatting the wisdom and quotes, for posterity. and because I am not insane. < 1378755884 285050 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord'x̢̳̙̏̈́ͧ̏͝' < 1378755885 306386 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:6: lexical error at character '\783' < 1378755890 79405 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1378755896 564806 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(huh lambdabot doesn't know about the 102334155th unicode char??) < 1378755899 218269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord '\783' < 1378755900 302330 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 783 < 1378755913 496225 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord maxBound < 1378755914 576941 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1114111 < 1378755924 341542 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fib n = let aux (f1,f2) = (f2,f1+f2) in iterate aux (0,1) !! n < 1378755926 353882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1378755930 277050 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: That wasn’t a character. < 1378755930 422247 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 0 < 1378755933 573837 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0,1) < 1378755935 14366 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait. < 1378755936 543555 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp. < 1378755941 630227 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fib n = let aux (f1,f2) = (f2,f1+f2) in fst $ iterate aux (0,1) !! n < 1378755942 511002 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:151:1: Warning: < 1378755942 656208 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Pattern match(es) are overlapped < 1378755942 656363 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : In an equat... < 1378755955 347361 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fib n = let aux (f1,f2) = (f2,f1+f2) in fst (iterate aux (0,1) !! n) < 1378755956 90575 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:151:1: Warning: < 1378755956 235744 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Pattern match(es) are overlapped < 1378755956 235911 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : In an equat... < 1378755956 513039 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: how was that joke supposed to work with a single *existing* unicode char though! < 1378755962 4015 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fst < 1378755962 999398 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a, b) -> a < 1378755971 785930 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am i missing here < 1378755975 565604 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 10 < 1378755978 789715 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (55,89) < 1378756003 834680 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: what's the deal! < 1378756012 276197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fib is already defined? < 1378756013 986393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you defined fib three times < 1378756032 456930 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i wanted the one to override the other! < 1378756037 667075 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378756042 155887 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help let < 1378756042 325742 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :let = . Add a binding < 1378756049 643182 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help undefine < 1378756049 788699 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefine. Reset evaluator local bindings < 1378756050 286087 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlet fib < 1378756050 431253 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TemplateHaskell is not enabled < 1378756057 159208 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help < 1378756064 964277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine let < 1378756065 109542 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's currently no way to undefine just one thing. Say @undefine (with no extra words) to undefine everything. < 1378756068 819139 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1378756068 968810 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1378756078 151227 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow great. < 1378756085 280715 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let a = 102334155 < 1378756085 998283 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fib n = let aux (f1,f2) = (f2,f1+f2) in fst $ iterate aux (0,1) !! n < 1378756086 250457 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1378756087 98745 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1378756090 408438 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 10 < 1378756093 848322 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 55 < 1378756098 318541 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 1000 < 1378756101 445858 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 434665576869374564356885276750406258025646605173717804024817290895365554179... < 1378756106 667688 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1378756169 737301 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i do iterate like that does the compiler avoid generating code to actually build the list < 1378756179 485286 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let tetration a b = foldr1 (^) $ replicate b a < 1378756180 359199 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1378756188 891683 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib $ tetration 3 4 < 1378756199 847011 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1378756205 644997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh :( < 1378756215 17701 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanted that i'd use a log definition of fib < 1378756220 181943 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :("yes that would help") < 1378756291 102717 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> tetration 3 4 < 1378756298 750593 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1378756331 885496 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the tetration won't do. I guess g_64 is way off limits... < 1378756395 189859 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to g_64, fib g_64 isn't that much bigger :p < 1378756465 643504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried 3 ↑↑ 4 on my machine. forcefully kill -9ed the process after it gobbled a full 4 GB of ram... < 1378756675 442098 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378756872 72009 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib is approximately exponential anyway < 1378757073 758785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 3 ↑↑ 4 has... approximately 3.6*10^12 decimal digits, if I read 'pedia right -- so 4 gigs sounds a bit small for storing the number. < 1378757075 101917 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src tetration < 1378757075 246917 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Where did you learn to type? < 1378757080 330138 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378757122 146548 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, it was growing, and I didn't want my machine to suddenly crash in the middle of good music playing in my headphones. < 1378757160 982548 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"g_64" bam stored!! < 1378757164 366211 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith logBase <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757165 498367 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-0.0,NaN,Infinity,1.584962500721156,1.464973520717927,1.2920296742201791,1... < 1378757179 139100 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pipe g_64 to /dev/snd < 1378757190 31124 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 50 $ zipWith logBase <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757191 94930 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.0206920565661424,1.0202725752914699,1.0198697640046614,1.019482648379181... < 1378757217 311297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[-0.0,NaN,Infinity,1.584962500721156,..." is the best start for a sequence. < 1378757217 484358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 200 $ zipWith logBase <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757218 530638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.005042159409283,1.0050168635833612,1.0049918203018742,1.0049670258016374... < 1378757228 214713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I like to pipe my swap partition to /dev/snd from time to time. < 1378757234 114313 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what is this exactly < 1378757236 506627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that is unholy. < 1378757258 641810 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: log fib_n / log fib_{n−1} < 1378757260 745765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf ♪dıng♪ you have quotes. < 1378757260 908068 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378757265 467677 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378757294 134612 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re: “approximately exponential”, i was curious about that. < 1378757320 533528 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's roughly phi^ or whatever < 1378757358 705942 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (/) <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757359 892206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,1.0,0.5,0.6666666666666666,0.6,0.625,0.6153846153846154,0.619047619047... < 1378757379 472828 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that showed that pretty well < 1378757385 131284 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 50 $ zipWith (/) <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757386 226755 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.6180339887498949,0.6180339887498949,0.6180339887498949,0.618033988749894... < 1378757398 521044 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 1/phi, of course < 1378757402 417434 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :known to its close friends as phi-1 < 1378757412 212338 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/1\/phi/phi - 1/ < 1378757425 704278 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/phi-1/1 \/ phi/ < 1378757439 126604 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow boily < 1378757462 905839 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you find yourself escaping a slash with a backslash in regexps, you’re Doing It Wrong™. < 1378757463 511957 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't see nothing. < 1378757467 176017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More things should have \ as the reverse division operator. (a\b = b/a.) < 1378757485 68100 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/377120854678585344 this is going well < 1378757520 605740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378757524 177161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Something something Streisand something...’ < 1378757529 457269 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/on-nsa.html said post < 1378757531 414962 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get it while it's hot < 1378757551 920207 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Go after the implementation. Cryptography is almost always implemented in software -- and software is a disaster" lol :/ < 1378757587 267264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're a disaster. < 1378757587 837261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i installed wiliki source patches gdbm-ci, and had a simple reader macro in chicken" from google :p. but, this way i have already < 1378757595 785224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'd say that confirms it. < 1378757711 359800 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ugh MAIN macro, great. *WASH_Eyes_outWith_soap*" oh, i see < 1378757751 639685 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ifdef (OMG) if (moo) { ... } else #endif <-- oh < 1378757761 857745 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck moo < 1378757769 285758 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooed, mooing, moos To emit the deep, bellowing sound made by a cow; low. < 1378757770 175737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re backdooring standards, have you seen https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/11/the_strange_sto.html < 1378757788 658992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr: one of the NIST recommended PRNGs makes no sense unless designing in a backdoor was a primary concern < 1378757804 252048 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great. < 1378757864 37162 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: But what if you *do* need a backdoor? < 1378757867 441914 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fire safety and all < 1378757958 4896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett ♪տինկ♪ you have quotes! < 1378757958 176172 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The original author of OpenSSL thought it would be a fun way to learn C." o.O < 1378757958 321624 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378757979 627819 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v.fun < 1378758312 53333 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasons why I should not be an actor: I managed to lose a prop in the 5 or so meters between the props table and the stage < 1378758456 198770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: was it an orange? < 1378758465 245633 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a plastic shot glass < 1378759041 984091 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378759078 414916 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378759351 808301 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378759490 381617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378759653 396300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I reformat ZOMGMODULES, is he/she/they a singular person, or should they be conflagrated with someone else? < 1378759702 262810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ZOMG* < 1378759711 602505 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomgmodules is chris p., last i checked < 1378759732 132915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: o hai! < 1378759736 666417 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hai ^^ < 1378759751 930803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: oh, thanks! < 1378759778 340195 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378759971 352406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck do i have texlive installed anyway < 1378759978 881287 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378760002 794131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: because you are a responsible adult. < 1378760808 313385 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378761160 587986 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378761361 88388 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I think the two oklos are two different people < 1378761384 87086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1378761388 43492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you get that idea from < 1378761435 475956 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378761460 500931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, a wise man told me many years ago < 1378761464 461621 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was oerjan < 1378761468 300966 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fizzie < 1378761476 922486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this wise man oko by any chance < 1378761478 356192 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by many years ago, I of course mean about two < 1378761481 951380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never trust anything oko says, ever < 1378761539 541097 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I am going to stalk sleep and kill it < 1378761543 178767 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1378761544 198133 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378761558 486510 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering that fizzie and oerjan may have been answering based on information given to them by oko < 1378761562 553018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you taneb < 1378761812 743407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is wise. oerjan is... uhm... wise too, I guess. < 1378761850 379483 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp. Not-bus time again < 1378761852 115454 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1378762143 622527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 ♪moof♪ you have quotes! < 1378762143 768325 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378762150 742015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungry. < 1378762155 603473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1378762156 762251 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378762890 464509 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1378763360 147077 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378763831 128402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378764039 742227 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378764282 173822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/dennis-rodman-north-korea-baby-name I don't understand anything any more < 1378764290 934442 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378764360 955952 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1378764362 652579 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 NICK :Bike < 1378765049 195696 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 254 seconds < 1378765527 913334 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378765645 732187 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378766707 458394 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378767081 496708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah: python -c 'print u"\N{CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O}"' < 1378767122 137957 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎈very useful < 1378767141 853697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :python -c 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}"' < 1378767146 37259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}"' < 1378767148 87339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}"' \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1378767156 89193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1378767191 601433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's puzzling < 1378767200 699175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1378767203 630778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}"' < 1378767205 607331 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "", line 1, in \ UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2603' in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) < 1378767212 116975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}".encode("utf-8")' < 1378767213 716033 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1378767217 640292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1378767349 673108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nimport unicodedata\n\nprint unicodedata.lookup(sys.argv[1])\n' > bin/unicode && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1378767353 335553 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378767354 36387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1378767355 761462 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print unicodedata.lookup(sys.argv[1]) \ UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2603' in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) < 1378767364 695227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nimport unicodedata\n\nprint unicodedata.lookup(sys.argv[1]).encode("utf-8")\n' > bin/unicode && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1378767364 971727 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1378767368 961670 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378767370 166211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1378767371 873684 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1378767380 273299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O < 1378767381 988341 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꙮ < 1378767413 372795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started writing like eval(r'u"\N{'+sys.argv[1]+'}') and then I was like "... no" < 1378767423 211093 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1378767436 876333 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS AND MACRON < 1378767438 493986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ǟ < 1378767493 281154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nimport unicodedata\n\nprint u''.join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8")\n' > bin/unicode && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1378767497 86265 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378767525 689096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y' 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A' 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y' < 1378767527 521356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u.join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ NameError: name 'u' is not defined < 1378767537 917221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nimport unicodedata\n\nprint u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8")\n' > bin/unicode && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1378767541 398522 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378767542 22438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y' 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A' 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y' < 1378767544 258108 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1378767551 835201 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1378767553 445538 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1378767567 30968 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you need to import unicodedata for something strings need anyway, huh < 1378767622 575260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+034F COMBINING GRAPHEME JOINER < 1378767627 950254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The name does not describe the function of this character. Despite its name, it does not join graphemes." < 1378767637 44379 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it at least combine < 1378767646 165709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN MINUSCULE LETTER H' 'LATIN MINUSCULE LETTER T' 'LATIN MINUSCULE LETTER H' < 1378767648 152562 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'LATIN MINUSCULE LETTER H'" < 1378767649 599155 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is everything i know a lie. < 1378767651 371672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1378767660 102127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled by terminology < 1378767685 190071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN SMALL LETTER H' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER T' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER H' < 1378767685 377153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe rewrite it to do a nearest edit distance match < 1378767686 961380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be fun < 1378767687 393913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1378767716 196994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that an international technical standard has an appendix which starts "There are two separate cantillation systems in the Hebrew Bible." < 1378768046 767166 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378768052 474315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : don't you know, you can't be Floating and Integral at the same time. it's totally impossible <-- you make that sound like a challenge. < 1378768216 257335 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oikltsonwgznartv QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378768400 554336 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378768527 689607 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378768569 478559 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378769697 719844 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378770272 503426 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1378770340 425438 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378770371 559406 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378770401 672773 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre