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Couldn't they color it something not gross? 00:49:52 Sgeo: how are you cooking your steak 00:50:31 anyway I think you should eat steak w/ mac and cheese 00:51:03 i don't like kraft cheese.... i've had "home made" baked cheesy mac though and it's good 00:51:15 Most of my steak related memories are from over a decade ago 00:51:37 My mom cooked steak well-done, I think. I keep getting told that that's bad with steak 00:51:38 mnoqy: yeah that stuff is great... with breadcrumbs on top? 00:51:44 yeah 00:51:46 yeah, that'll cook all the flavor right out 00:51:52 can i get a quick opinion on webdav 00:52:06 I recommend medium rare with salt, pepper, garlic, herbs maybe (rosemary? dunno) 00:52:11 you can put on steak sauce too 00:52:14 gotcha 00:52:23 Bike: that should solve your webdav problems 00:52:32 you could go through every sprite on every pixel 00:52:32 I think I've had steak more recently, at Dave & Busters. The steak sause seemed to add all the flavoring 00:52:41 and then you'd have 0 overdraw 00:53:03 but then you'd totally bust your memory loading up sprite settings 00:54:42 you could store all your sprites as a bunch of line spans 00:54:55 and then write those spans to line span lists 00:55:07 then sort the list for each line 00:55:08 Sgeo: if you want to get sciency, cook it sous vide 00:55:20 then you can get it precisely medium rare with no cooking skill required 00:55:27 also you save all of the juices and you can put them on potatoes 00:55:31 and then you'd have a perfect list telling you when the current graphic object switches for each line 00:55:48 Can I get a restaurant to do it for me? 00:55:54 but then the problem is that you have to do 240 sorts of about 20 items 00:55:58 yeah but they're also probably good at cooking steaks the normal way 00:56:00 since it's their job 00:56:32 and it would probably be fast enough on a 32bit processor (actually some 3d renderes use that algo) but it would totally bust an 8bit one 00:56:53 Is there still a risk of undercooking with sous vide? 00:57:09 well if things go wrong yeah 00:57:18 there's a risk of undercooking with any cooking technique if you don't do it right 00:57:22 kind of axiomatically 00:57:36 you could loop through every sprite on every scanline and draw every sprite front to back and have a mask buffer 00:57:49 burn it to a crisp. once it's a crisp you're probably safe. 00:58:05 and then you'd have more or less zero overdraw if you keep your transparency mask separate in 1bpp format 00:58:09 the main things with sous vide would be make sure the water reaches the target temp, make sure the meat stays in long enough for all of it to reach the target temp, and make sure the bag is sufficiently empty of air that heat is conducted from the water 00:58:23 it doesn't need to be a perfect vacuum seal though, I just use a ziploc bag and push the air out 00:58:28 err 00:58:29 "Clostridium botulinum bacteria can grow in food in the absence of oxygen and produce the deadly botulinum toxin, so sous-vide cooking must be performed under carefully controlled conditions to avoid botulism poisoning." 00:58:35 yeah 00:58:51 I think I'm scared 00:58:55 but then you need a buffer for the whole scanline... they had enough chip area for this in the 16bit era (tg16, genesis, snes, jaguar, lots of arcade hardware) but not in the 8bit era 00:59:03 clostridium is the best genus 00:59:18 botulism, tetanus, c. dificile, gas gangrene, and salt-rising bread 00:59:30 I need a meat thermometer 00:59:43 meat thermometers are nice to have. 00:59:46 Preferably one that works with ready-to-eat meals 01:00:02 Because I had one but it was too long for the little meat thingies in those 01:00:06 why would a ready to eat need cooking for safety? 01:00:07 Well, not ready-to-eat 01:00:21 The microwavable things that say you need to check temperature for safety 01:00:28 they say that cause they don't want to get sued 01:00:44 if you don't have a compromised immune system then I wouldn't worry too much about this stuff 01:01:15 that said I do seem to mind gastrointestinal upset less than most people 01:01:28 I don't think implementing hardware sorting on 8bit hardware is very realistic either :/ 01:01:38 I used 8bit hardware in my sous vide setup! 01:05:01 well that killed both topics 01:05:17 yes 01:07:00 kinda hard to do much better than the nes on 8bit hardware 01:07:08 except I guess the master system 01:07:32 fuck yeah master system 01:07:37 fuck yeah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snail_Maze 01:08:38 "Macromedia Flash" 01:08:40 Wow that's old 01:08:47 Also broken link :( 01:08:51 it wasn't very popular here (Canada) 01:09:27 it was very popular in my parents basement 01:09:33 mainly cause I bought one from a kid at school for $5 01:09:36 long after it was obsolete 01:09:41 :D 01:09:57 like the consoles I owned were a Sega Master System and then a PS2 01:11:23 * mad looks up SMS docs to try to guess if it had a scanline buffer 01:13:50 I never owned any consoles 01:13:54 :/ 01:16:15 had a snes 01:16:50 still kindof amazing how much stuff they got out of that trash... goes to show that gfx and sfx hardware are the most important things 01:17:17 since those are pretty much the only things that were good on the snes 01:23:00 yeah ok SMS only supports 8 sprites per scanline 01:23:11 though they can be 16x16 I think 01:23:15 and 64 sprites total 01:23:20 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:27:12 -!- CADD has joined. 01:29:55 -!- Bike has joined. 01:33:29 so it's probably NES style hardware 01:33:49 where it has 8 hardware sprite circuits 01:33:57 which it loads during HBLANK 01:34:17 then waits the right pixel and starts outputting 01:36:27 -!- iconmaster has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 01:38:14 woa 01:38:21 the sprite table is in VRAM 01:38:31 every scanline it reads up the whole table 01:38:43 very nice. 01:38:43 well, the wholy y position table 01:38:53 64 sprites = 64 bytes 01:39:55 For comparison, the background tiles take 64bytes, and the background tile data takes 128bytes 01:41:11 and sprite data takes 64 bytes 01:45:52 Is there something in the 'cheese' of Kraft's Mac and Cheese that stimulates hunger? 01:46:39 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:48:48 salt 01:52:49 hm, I was wrong 01:52:59 you only get 8x16 sprites 01:53:45 -!- Bike has joined. 02:06:32 `slist 02:06:34 slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot 02:14:50 -!- Koen has quit (Quit: Koen). 02:19:52 service unavailable, nice 02:37:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 02:39:29 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: Reconnecting). 02:39:43 -!- Bike has joined. 02:43:26 -!- Frooxius has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:48:05 Sgeo: I just cooked a steak with lots of salt, black pepper, rosemary, and sage, and it's delicious even though I accidentally made it medium if not medium-well 02:48:42 Is it just the salt+black pepper+rosemary+sage that's delicious though, or does the steak contribute? 02:49:07 steak contributes 02:49:14 have you considered just putting the spices on a block of plastic and eating that, kmc 02:49:16 salt is a flavor enhancer more than a flavor in itself 02:49:27 it makes other flavors stronger 02:49:36 plastic steak. 02:53:08 kmc: spices are amazing aren't they 02:53:13 I love just throwing more spices into things to make them better 02:53:24 like taking canned soup and tossing in chili oil and rosemary and things 02:54:25 oh yes 02:54:29 chili oil is a great thing to have around 02:54:38 we have a live rosemary plant and a live sage plant on the porch :) 02:54:45 I feel bad ripping off parts of their bodies but it's worth it 02:55:07 kmc: plants dont have nerves :) 02:55:19 indeed 02:56:47 my current favorite meal: wisk two eggs with a 1/2 cup milk. cube cheese, add to eggs, add cilantro, green onion, dijon mustard, and mushrooms. cut up bacon into pieces, fry in butter, add egg mixture to butter and bacon. cook and serve 02:56:52 sooooooo good 02:56:59 hell yes that sounds great 02:57:00 kind of want kmc to just have an EEG hooked up to his plants all the time 02:57:15 omg, ive been pretty much living off of it for the last couple of weeks 02:57:18 and its soo good and cheap 02:58:20 what kind of mushrooms 02:58:47 kmc: crimini or portobello 02:58:54 ah 02:59:02 if i dont have those, then white button works too :) 02:59:13 all of those are the same species :) 02:59:17 mushrooms are great 02:59:21 really 02:59:22 ? 02:59:23 yeah 02:59:26 Agaricus bisporus 02:59:32 huh, learn something new every day :) 02:59:46 ever go on the micology subreddit? 02:59:53 different morphs or what? 03:00:01 portabello is the most mature form; the veil has broken and the gills are visible 03:00:12 ah life cycles. the silent confuser 03:00:18 hehe 03:00:19 kmc: yeah, chili oil is just like. 03:00:20 button mushrooms are an immature form where the edge of the cap is still attached to the stem by the veil 03:00:21 I can literally put it in anything 03:00:23 it's basically magic 03:00:26 but you can still see the gills when you cut them open 03:00:37 pasta? chili oil. soup? chili oil. stew? chili oil. sauce? chili oil 03:00:45 chili? chili oil 03:00:48 Fiora: sounds good 03:00:49 lol! 03:01:01 I might like spiciness 03:01:42 i might like eating unborn babies.. 03:01:54 what 03:02:02 well actually more like ovary discharges.. 03:02:04 CADD: if you want to branch out mycologically speaking, you could use oyster mushrooms or shitake 03:02:05 elliott: eggs 03:02:05 ??? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??????balut 03:02:08 oysters are also the easiest to grow yourself 03:02:11 elliott: see my comment above :) 03:02:22 shiitake <3 03:02:33 shiitake is not too hard to grow either 03:02:37 shiitake are soooo tasty 03:02:51 kmc: ooo. that sounds good. we actually had a shiitake block growing in our kitchen for a while :) 03:02:54 nice 03:03:01 kmc: yeah, it was amazing 03:03:04 CADD: I haven't been on the mycology subreddit 03:03:22 my friend is more into mushrooms than me 03:03:25 kmc: yeah, its great. and if you are into that kind of thing there is also /r/shroomers 03:03:32 she's on the forums and stuff, I just help out here and there 03:03:37 :) 03:03:42 cool 03:03:55 we live in norcal so we can just find psychedelic mushrooms growing outside :) 03:04:10 there was a new species described from a specimen in Golden Gate Park a few years back :) 03:04:15 omg, lucky! i live in socal. its pretty barren 03:04:20 kmc: oh yeah, i think i heard about that 03:04:46 what are you doing in socal 03:04:59 ive hearf norcal has very nice climate. the only place ive been around in norcal is in SF. 03:05:04 uh, i was born here. lol 03:05:10 that's a reasonable excuse 03:05:21 ill probably move up to SF or silicon valley if i get a job up there 03:05:29 that's the thing to do 03:05:32 which is kinda the plan :) 03:05:33 ikr? 03:05:59 the #esoteric center of gravity is shifting towards there 03:06:11 where was it before? 03:06:17 hexham 03:06:21 im guessing you guys meet up once in a while? 03:06:21 atlantic ocean 03:06:26 yeah 03:06:27 lol 03:06:33 nice, must be great 03:12:12 -!- monotone_ has joined. 03:13:11 -!- quintopi1 has joined. 03:13:33 -!- Fiora_ has joined. 03:13:53 -!- lifthras1ir has joined. 03:13:53 -!- Fiora has quit (*.net *.split). 03:13:53 -!- variable has quit (*.net *.split). 03:13:53 -!- monotone has quit (*.net *.split). 03:13:54 -!- aloril has quit (*.net *.split). 03:13:54 -!- quintopia has quit (*.net *.split). 03:13:54 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (*.net *.split). 03:15:03 -!- variable has joined. 03:18:49 -!- Fiora_ has changed nick to 17SADELZ0. 03:19:33 -!- 17SADELZ0 has quit (Quit: leaving). 03:20:11 -!- Fiora has joined. 03:26:52 -!- aloril has joined. 03:46:34 I seem to be switching to foobar2000 03:50:20 cool 03:55:38 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 03:55:38 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Client Quit). 04:01:59 Wonder if I can make foobar2000 look like WinAmp 04:07:31 -!- SingingBoyo has joined. 04:07:46 -!- SingingBoyo has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:08:05 -!- SingingBoyo has joined. 04:12:43 "(Any Borg in Voyager doesn't count, and fortunately there was never any fifth Trek series... extrapolating from the downward trend in Voyager, any fifth series would have been abominably bad.)" 04:13:57 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8 04:17:23 -!- CADD has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 04:31:01 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xHK0m5hVyY 04:52:55 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 05:01:35 -!- audioPhil_ has joined. 05:02:33 -!- audioPhil_ has quit (Changing host). 05:02:34 -!- audioPhil_ has joined. 05:03:14 -!- audioPhil has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:23:20 -!- SingingBoyo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:32:56 -!- carado has joined. 05:54:50 kmc: do you ever find yourself checking the ips of people to see if they happen to be in australia 05:57:27 Good things about Australia: the beer. Bad things about Australia: Hitler. 06:03:14 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 06:16:19 `quote apply pressure 06:16:23 1018) ◊_______________________◊ help. jesus christ elliott apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open 06:18:05 shachaf: I'm not sure but this might help your keeping-eyes-open problem 06:18:57 (hth) 06:35:45 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 06:37:59 -!- mad has quit (Quit: Radiateur). 06:44:26 @tell boily it would be nice if the quotes in the pdf had line breaks between peoples' lines 06:44:26 Consider it noted. 07:30:58 -!- FreeFull has quit. 08:33:53 voyager was good 08:33:56 deep space 9 was shit 08:34:06 ;__; 08:43:32 "ICS Forum talk: Bounding rationality by computational complexity, Prof. Lance Fortnow" 08:43:36 These are always so fancy. 08:43:56 "This talk will explore a new direction bringing the rich tools of computational complexity into economic models, --" 09:08:09 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 09:32:02 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 09:42:28 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:43:22 -!- Sgeo has joined. 09:50:35 -!- oerjan has joined. 09:53:33 `ord > ​​ 09:53:37 62 32 8203 8203 09:54:24 i guess that was to be expected. 09:54:37 ^ord > ​​ 09:54:37 62 32 226 128 139 226 128 139 09:55:35 > chr <$> [226,128,139] 09:55:37 "\226\128\139" 09:55:51 > var $ chr <$> [226,128,139] 09:55:52 â 09:55:59 oh 128 09:56:05 `ordu > ​ 09:56:07 U+3e U+20 U+200b 09:56:21 fancy 09:56:42 actually i'm wondering how one would make irssi produce a zero-width space. 09:57:16 hm... 09:57:34 I would think that it's a character that'd self-insert if you can just figure out how to type it. 09:57:48 yes, i just realized that. 09:58:22 but i have no idea how to type it without copying and pasting, and i don't know how to avoid having a character before it 09:59:03 Many systems have a Unicode hex input feature, but that depends. 09:59:12 hm maybe the delete key will do it from the beginning 10:00:10 i'm afraid getting it through putty and irssi will be hard, alt- is reserved for changing windows. 10:00:27 i'm not even sure if that's what windows uses. 10:01:15 There's a thing for alt-(numpad + followed by hex) feature, but you need to enable a registry key for it. :p 10:01:26 oh. 10:01:53 `ord ​ 10:01:54 That's "numpad '+'" in case it wasn't clear. 10:01:55 8203 10:02:11 That seems to be correct. 10:02:17 fizzie: ooh, alt-numpad + decimal worked 10:02:31 um wait 10:02:47 what actually did was alt 10:02:51 *+i 10:03:10 Right. The prefix is for the "it's hex instead" thing. 10:03:32 EXCELLENT 10:06:49 rxvt-unicode lets you enter hex when holding ctrl+shift, and also has a funky infobox at the bottom-left corner showing what you have entered so far, what it looks like, and which font it's coming from. 10:07:25 good, good 10:07:53 (You can also poke existing characters on screen with your mouse when holding ctrl-shift and see what they're made of.) 10:09:19 The nasty thing about it is that if you press ctrl-shift and then release it without doing nothing, it goes in "keycap picture insert mode" which is supposed to insert whatever symbol is on the key, which I sometimes accidentally use to insert spurious ␣'s (what comes out of space) or whatnot. 10:09:29 ␣↵⌦⎀⇱⇲⇟⇞ 10:09:32 Very useful. 10:09:50 (That was space-enter-del-insert-home-end-pageup-pagedown.) 10:10:45 itym square-square-square-square-square-square-square-square 10:11:00 aah, that's the thing that I accidentally trigger all the time without knowing what keys I pressed 10:11:22 that does sound nasty 10:11:29 olsner: It's somewhat easy to accidentally add left-shift when poking at left-control. 10:11:36 -!- CADD has joined. 10:11:54 And there's no obvious way of getting out of it without inserting any character, because just about any key will insert *something*. 10:12:04 moreover, there are combinations i actually use, like ctrl-shift-t 10:12:29 fizzie: press ctrl-shift again? 10:12:39 olsner: That inserts "⇧" here. 10:12:43 so if i change my mind in the middle of it... but then i don't have that feature. 10:14:08 Non-special keys like letters do cancel out of keycap picture insert mode, but cause a visual bell (flash). 10:14:59 letters don't seem to flash/bell for me ... but maybe I've disabled visual bell too 10:15:22 send in bug report about it, describing the use case of having to avoid attracting velociraptors. 10:15:25 Also the "ISO 14755 mode" infobox does pop out during the regular application of shortcuts like that ctrl-shift-t, which can be irritating. 10:15:35 why did that a disappear. 10:16:31 oerjan: All this talk about special characters has gotten the attention of the character-eating sprites that lurk in dark corners of the internet. 10:16:42 figures. 10:38:07 -!- Taneb has joined. 10:41:59 kmc: plants dont have nerves :) <-- THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK 10:52:19 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 10:53:48 -!- augur has joined. 11:09:46 -!- yorick has joined. 11:13:23 Good things about Australia: the beer. Bad things about Australia: Hitler. 11:13:56 cloudy, with a chance of trolling. 11:14:26 mind you, the beer part might be true for all i know. 11:14:46 (i've heard foster's is not drunk by real australians though.) 11:16:41 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fosters is unusually helpful. 11:17:23 maybe aussies hating foster'?s has become a meme itself. 11:18:12 kmc: do you ever find yourself checking the ips of people to see if they happen to be in australia <-- it's the right time now, i think, but no australians to be heard! 11:18:35 maybe mafingre is a collective aussie joke and they're all in on it. 11:21:34 -!- ais523 has joined. 11:21:42 `run allquotes | grep '[)].*[^] :] <' | paste 11:21:50 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20478 11:23:19 `run quote 191 # wtf is with this 11:23:21 191) LoTR actually compresses pretty well into a film; the large amount of description becomes unnecessary. LotR would compress pretty well into a book; the large amount of description *is* unnecessary. 11:23:26 @messages? 11:23:26 Sorry, no messages today. 11:23:53 oerjan: I think it's a comment on the relative bandwidths of text and video 11:24:05 i mean, the nick spellings. 11:24:12 oh right 11:24:18 probably some sort of nickchange chain 11:24:27 let's assume so. 11:25:08 `run sed -i '191 s/ No output. 11:25:19 oh hum 11:25:28 `run quote 191 11:25:29 191) LoTR actually compresses pretty well into a film; the large amount of description becomes unnecessary. LotR would compress pretty well into a book; the large amount of description *is* unnecessary. 11:28:32 hey, everyone 11:28:48 g'day 11:28:52 a) I updated the aimake docs; b) I found a less buggy Pod→HTML converter to do the conversion with 11:30:04 * oerjan notes the absense of level 3 11:30:25 yeah, I noticed it wasn't there too 11:30:36 it does the same thing as 2, I think 11:33:58 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 11:35:22 * oerjan sees double 11:35:34 this connection is unreliable 11:35:39 -!- ais523 has quit (Disconnected by services). 11:36:54 also, wow Ubuntu are bad at signing their packages correctly 11:37:12 I had to try three different servers just now to find one where the packages had a correct signature 11:41:54 `run sed -i '881s/ No output. 11:42:02 `quote 881 11:42:04 881) That's the problem with Tumblr All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people 11:42:27 `run sed -i '887s/ No output. 11:42:56 `run sed -i '976s/ No output. 11:43:51 `run quote 887; quote 976 11:43:53 887) GreyKnight: for instance, you can form a poset category from a bunch of tiles oh, that's why somebody was conflating category theory with bathroom interior design the other day :-D \ 976) error: cuttlefish not synced to vblank maybe it's a power phase issue it's like, a european cuttlefish but it' 11:44:16 qdb format restored! 11:44:41 well, what that regex found, anyway. 11:47:55 also, I found part of that mystifying C-INTERCAL problem 11:48:05 it was a makefile problem; the tests didn't depend on the compiler, and produced executables 11:48:15 thus it could reuse executables produced by an old version of the compiler 11:48:25 this isn't enough to explain why the program didn't work, but is enough to explain the inconsistency 11:49:35 good, good 11:50:40 -!- nooodl has joined. 11:51:45 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:59:19 -!- scarf has joined. 11:59:27 -!- callforjudgement has quit (Disconnected by services). 11:59:41 heh, it seems that this client cycles through alternate nicks 12:01:43 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 12:08:13 -!- ais523 has joined. 12:09:01 -!- Bike has joined. 12:11:48 -!- scarf has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:31:50 -!- ais523 has quit. 12:59:34 -!- boily has joined. 12:59:40 -!- metasepia has joined. 13:01:37 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 13:07:09 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:12:32 -!- Bike has joined. 13:16:13 good was-koen-enwisdomed morning! 13:17:12 `? koen 13:17:14 olsner: you mean, in a quote where there are multiple locutors, to have each of them starting a new line? 13:17:15 koen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:17:15 | 13:17:15 o/`¯º 13:17:21 `? koen_ 13:17:22 koen_? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:17:23 | 13:17:23 o/`¯º 13:17:56 oerjan: 'tis sad. 13:18:16 `learn Koen lives in the top of the Eiffel Tower. 13:18:21 I knew that. 13:18:29 `run ln -s koen wisdom/koen_ 13:18:33 No output. 13:20:01 i believe this information is completely according to the accuracy standards set by the the question. 13:21:00 `learn Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives). 13:21:05 I knew that. 13:21:35 i suppose i should have expected that. 13:21:49 he he he :D 13:28:39 `? arc_koen 13:28:41 arc_koen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:28:41 | 13:28:41 º¯`\o 13:30:31 `? pikhq 13:30:32 pikhq? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:30:32 | 13:30:32 º¯`\o 13:37:02 pikhq: you have quotes. I'm not ♪ding♪ing you, as you are unknown, and my mom always told me to «jamais faire ♪ding♪ à des étrangers». 13:37:50 did your mom sometimes say comprehensible things, too? 13:41:33 i maybe should clarify/make it worse by pointing out i wasn't referring to the french. 13:41:55 although, there does seem to be an approaching french singularity around here. 13:43:50 she also repeated the classics, like «mange tes légumes!». 13:44:09 ah. 13:44:24 but it seems the incomprehension comes from this generation. my bro and I are the same, but as he pointed out, «moi plus que lui». 13:46:22 vegetables are good, except when prepared according to the traditional Québec fashion. 13:47:46 at least the québécois _have_ traditional vegetables. 13:48:20 cabbage. potatoes. carrots. turnips. and then you boil the fungot out of them, just to be sure there are no nutrients left. 13:48:20 boily: if it has to map ( require foo) to the grovel specification contains more information than simply the car the cdr. though there's no time wasted copying it anywhere 13:49:07 ...so let me get this straight, quebéc split _before_ french cuisine evolved? 13:49:24 i'm so sorry. 13:49:58 *-´+´ 13:50:26 ↑ I'm sure it's a Haskell library operator somewhere. 13:50:58 actually no, ' is an alphanumeric character. 13:51:02 or wait 13:51:10 hm... 13:51:32 > let (*-´+´) = "test" in (*-´+´) 13:51:33 "test" 13:51:37 OKAY 13:51:59 `ord ´ 13:52:01 180 13:52:14 ~eval ord '´' 13:52:16 Error (1): 13:52:18 ~eval ord '´' 13:52:19 180 13:53:30 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sd601/papers/mov.pdf 13:53:50 hellortti. 14:02:00 -!- FreeFull has joined. 14:05:39 helloboily. 14:18:28 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 14:20:13 -!- Bike has joined. 14:29:14 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 14:35:44 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 14:39:44 alloily ^^ 14:42:24 bonroujour! 14:45:13 Nice, nice 14:57:02 ~duck kornbluth 14:57:03 --- No relevant information 15:02:44 https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130917-a-jewel-at-the-heart-of-quantum-physics/ ok 15:03:06 "amplituhedron" 15:03:08 Nice 15:04:09 “...challenges the notion that space and time are fundamental components of reality”. uhm. if not space and time, then what? 15:04:14 Cookies 15:04:44 "You can easily do [...] even with a computer" 15:05:54 -!- ais523 has joined. 15:06:24 kmc: https://twitter.com/MitchFraas/status/380311280499703808/photo/1 15:07:17 yay, probabilities that may not forcibly add up to 1... 15:07:33 damned physicists and their unrealistic view of the Universe! 15:08:48 "Reality is unrealistic" 15:10:18 also they got a comment from andrew hodges somehow, wondering what's going on there 15:11:03 http://motls.blogspot.com/2013/09/amplituhedron-wonderful-pr-on-new.html?m=1 some more info 15:17:48 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:27:20 -!- myname has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 15:29:03 -!- audioPhil_ has changed nick to audioPhil. 15:32:54 -!- myname has joined. 15:39:44 Hi 15:41:08 hi 15:41:28 ail. 15:45:19 Heya AnotherTest 15:58:55 -!- Taneb has joined. 16:02:05 -!- jix has joined. 16:09:53 -!- augur has joined. 16:21:24 -!- conehead has joined. 16:32:25 -!- mnoqy has joined. 16:44:03 '"Starbucks is not a policy maker. We're not pro- or anti-gun," but believes that guns "should not be part of the Starbucks experience."' 16:44:54 mocha latte with tracer 16:45:00 Pun involving "shot"s of coffee. 16:45:34 Counter-pun involving, well, counters 16:59:25 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:27:17 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 17:32:28 Guys, these puns have all bean done before 17:32:36 You look like complete mugs 17:34:13 `run hahaha 17:34:15 bash: hahaha: command not found 17:34:19 Welp 17:34:32 I have good memories of the Day of the Fish Puns. but the bar is too high with coffee puns... 17:34:40 (bar is too... barista... geddit?) 17:35:03 * boily hides in shame in a corner 17:35:58 boily, you're making a mocca-ry of the whole concept 17:38:17 Taneb: sorry, I couldn't lat-the thread die on the grounds that you're complaining. 17:39:09 You should really filter out all of the puns that aren't that great 17:40:00 stop roasting me over petty details. you know I speak French, so punninglishing is quite hard. 17:40:45 i coffea more of these pun sessions 17:41:25 Something something black 17:41:49 we had the Fish, we're having the Coffee, did we have other Infamous Sessions? 17:42:10 Roujo: you're not milking the idea enough. 17:42:21 peel sessions 17:42:37 Like the metro station? 17:43:21 Bike: peel? 17:44:25 Roujo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/IMG_0678.JPG 17:45:25 These puns are getting weaker.. 17:45:28 I'll be black 17:45:30 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 17:47:04 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Sessions 17:48:29 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 17:49:17 -!- S1 has joined. 17:49:57 boily, there was the soviet one 17:51:43 I read the whole chatlog of 2013-08-27 at work today. The most flabbergasting thing was you not recognizing FALSE... I mean duh... 17:52:05 it's an old language. 17:52:12 Pretty awesome all in all. 17:52:19 S1: you didn't see nothing. that log is an illusion to mislead the CIA. 17:52:39 If you say so 17:53:02 what the heck happened on the 27th, that was like, years ago 17:53:06 So is the wisdom? -_- 17:53:13 hat? 17:53:21 w* 17:54:10 S1: ah no. the wisdom exists. it's a work in progress, so there are some corners still unaligned with reality, but otherwise it's fine. 17:54:27 I will read it tomorrow. 17:54:30 at work 17:54:32 tomorrow 17:54:43 you really don't have to. 17:55:03 let's see, we were talking about... political compass? 17:55:18 I know I've seen it all 17:55:20 the satanic runes guy 17:55:26 well, i don't know, i'm looking it up 17:55:36 oh, you mean the runes was false, huh. 17:56:13 I guess I correctly identified it as stack-based? 17:56:28 I'm pretty sure that was: 3 3 3 3***1_+,10 3 3**7+,100 16 2_++,3__3__3_3_***19+16+,4_4_*2*,10$*1+10$*4$*1_++10$*1+$$3+$5-10_10_*23+10_6_*2_+7$*,,,,,,,,, 17:56:46 False 17:57:17 i've never seen any false code before. there's no on the wiki. 17:57:28 really!? 17:57:35 there is no wiki. 17:57:37 i don't see any. 17:57:44 But yeah, it does look like it matcches the command set there. 17:58:28 Well I haven't programmed false in years but after all I remember this does look like false indeed 17:58:41 Yes, it seems to be false. 17:58:45 ^interps 17:58:55 ss, how do all these damn bots work. 17:58:57 !interps 17:59:01 ^prefixes 17:59:01 Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! 17:59:06 !help 17:59:07 ​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . 17:59:12 !help languages 17:59:12 ​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. 17:59:22 dag, no false. 17:59:46 `? false 17:59:48 false? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 17:59:48 | 17:59:48 º¯`\o 18:00:56 `learn false is a very old stack-based language. 18:01:01 I knew that. 18:01:15 Is this definition even valid? 18:01:24 after all WE know 18:02:07 what, the definition of false? 18:02:50 !true 18:02:55 Isn't that enough for you guys? 18:03:02 `learn false is a very old stack-based language. For an authentic experience, run it on an Amiga. 18:03:07 I knew that. 18:03:29 `learn false is just !true. Deal with it. 18:03:30 Can we add "It's not true"? 18:03:31 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: learn: not found 18:03:50 `? false 18:03:52 false is a very old stack-based language. For an authentic experience, run it on an Amiga. 18:03:56 HA! 18:04:59 * boily whistles innocently ♪ “I didn't do nothing, la la la!” 18:05:36 >_> 18:05:47 `learn HackEgo is evil. 18:05:49 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: learn: not found 18:06:40 obviously you're right 18:07:04 `complain `learn is broken 18:07:05 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: complain: not found 18:07:23 `help 18:07:23 `learn random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet Uhm... was the binary roujobroken? 18:07:24 Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ 18:07:28 I knew that. 18:07:34 `run echo WHYYYYYY 18:07:35 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: run: not found 18:07:41 `? random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet 18:07:43 random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet Uhm... was the binary roujobroken? 18:08:24 -!- quintopi1 has changed nick to quintopia. 18:08:39 `? nani 18:08:41 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?: not found 18:08:48 `? Roujo 18:08:50 Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. He does not understand shell quoting. 18:08:54 -!- quintopia has changed nick to Guest73707. 18:09:10 -!- Bike_ has joined. 18:09:18 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 18:09:22 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 18:09:49 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 18:09:55 -!- Guest73707 has changed nick to quintopia. 18:10:01 -!- quintopia has quit (Changing host). 18:10:01 -!- quintopia has joined. 18:10:04 How do you change nicks? 18:10:12 /nick 18:10:15 not very well 18:11:01 `echo foo 18:11:03 foo 18:11:30 ~echo is my bot still working? 18:11:31 i hate channel that mute you and won't let you change nicks if you're not registered, because every time there's a split or i ping out, my nick changes and i have to part nick and rejoin 18:11:33 is my bot still working? 18:11:51 ~duck metasepia 18:11:51 Metasepia is a genus of small cuttlefish from the Pacific Ocean. 18:11:56 `pastewisdom 18:11:58 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ 18:12:01 ~echo Is it working for me? 18:12:02 --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi 18:12:18 ~echo `echo foo 18:12:18 `echo foo 18:12:21 foo 18:12:58 Roujo: uhm. I think your chakras are misaligned. or something. the bots all hate you. hth. 18:13:40 Well that's no fungot 18:13:57 no fungot is no fungot 18:13:58 olsner: it can't work with files on unix that have accidentally been named with spaces in strings between 93 and 98 18:14:03 fungot: why do you snob Roujo? 18:14:03 boily: it does look pretty slick for scheme ( r5rs, or all? :) maybe its a list of symbols 18:14:16 I am a list of symbols, it seems 18:14:19 ~еcho foo 18:14:19 --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi 18:14:39 bom dily 18:14:57 good fternoontopia. 18:15:15 Bike................... 18:15:20 :p 18:15:22 ~echo foo 18:15:26 foo 18:15:41 ~echo `echo foo 18:15:41 --- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi 18:15:42 What does hth mean btw? 18:15:44 * boily hugs his bot “I'll protect you from the vile machines!” 18:15:47 `? hth 18:15:49 hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. 18:15:51 ... 18:15:54 Nope 18:15:59 yep 18:16:16 ~echo `echo foo 18:16:17 `echo foo 18:16:19 ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: echo: not found 18:17:05 ~echo `echo foo 18:17:06 `echo foo 18:17:07 foo 18:18:30 ~echo `echo foo 18:18:31 `echo foo 18:18:32 I AM THE LORD OF DARKNESS. ALL BOW BEFORE ME! 18:18:42 i see 18:18:43 D: 18:18:47 ~echo `echo foo 18:18:47 `echo foo 18:18:49 I AM HACKEGO! I AM THE VOID! PREPARE... TO DIE! 18:18:52 anyway imo that's enough playing with bots everyone shut the fuck up 18:19:31 ~echo Bike: nah. I won't. 18:19:31 Bike: nah. I won't. 18:19:35 :D 18:19:54 I think HackEgo doesn't like your bot, boily 18:20:02 `echo foo 18:20:03 foo 18:20:06 THERE 18:20:19 metasepia: you're not a "one", you're a bot. you can still talk 18:20:23 @tell oerjan your attempt at unverbatimising won't work, you son of a submariner. 18:20:23 Consider it noted. 18:20:27 `cat bin/echo 18:20:28 cat: bin/echo: No such file or directory 18:20:56 Gregor: hey are the codu logs in your aegis 18:21:23 The codu logs are glogbot, which is mine. 18:21:43 i ask because the html logs seem busted 18:22:09 -!- Taneb has joined. 18:22:21 Well lookie there >_O 18:23:47 olsner: you mean, in a quote where there are multiple locutors, to have each of them starting a new line? <-- yes, and probably also if the same locutor locutes severally 18:26:41 olsner: I am tempted. 18:28:22 boily: Most people are. olsner is a temptere(ss|r) 18:30:02 * boily rolls a seduction check against olsner... 18:30:05 ~duck 20 18:30:06 --- No relevant information 18:30:11 ~dice 20 18:30:11 2 --- Sum = 2 18:30:15 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:30:31 I am seduced. olsner, I'll have a demo in a few minutes... 18:30:56 and I think you accidentally told me what Locutus (of Borg) means ... it makes sense, I just hadn't considered that it might mean something 18:31:42 and failed to match it up with other related words I knew such as loquacity and eloquent 18:36:36 -!- S1 has quit (Quit: Page closed). 18:45:37 olsner: ♪gong♪ take a peek at the PDF ↑. I reformatted a pikhq's quotes. I think the end result is quite nice. 18:45:48 s/d /d/ 18:46:05 s/da /d/ 18:46:16 s/dr/d r/ 18:46:30 wait, am i supposed to apply these serially or concurrently 18:48:26 serially. I'm not multithreaded. 18:48:53 maybe you should be 18:49:15 I... wouldn't like having biological race conditions... 18:50:00 just use a type system that statically prevents them, then 18:50:02 if you think the body does one thing at a time you've got another thirty things coming 18:50:06 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 18:50:34 Well, we *are* made up of atomic operations working in parallel... >_> 18:50:46 Bike: my brain abstracts me from all the gruelling details that happen below my cranium, which is fine by me. 18:51:07 (otoh, I'm a certified pianist. there's something wrong with me...) 18:51:14 uhhuh, remember that next time you get hungry 18:51:45 I'm not hungry. I had phở for lunch. 18:52:01 good choice 18:57:16 olsner: so, what is your opinion on the reformat? 18:59:17 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 18:59:24 -!- Frooxius has joined. 19:00:12 -!- Bike has joined. 19:23:32 hmm... seems olsner disappeared. 19:23:35 ~dice 19:23:37 --- ~dice sides [number] 19:23:37 --- Throw dice, e.g.: dice 6 4 will throw four regular dice. 19:23:42 ~dice 20 19:23:42 16 --- Sum = 16 19:23:49 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:23:50 yup. he disappeared. 19:24:00 -!- conehead has joined. 19:26:37 -!- iconmaster has joined. 19:26:47 ^bool 19:26:48 No. 19:26:54 Apparently fungot disappears. 19:26:54 fizzie: hm gentoo got that too heh trudy an in fnord we think holland and the netherlands twice, and i know that 19:26:56 Disagrees. 19:27:02 (Brain bork.) 19:29:05 wasn't it Taneb that got his brain electrified one day? 19:29:10 s/that/who/ 19:29:13 Oui 19:29:34 C'est moi 19:29:56 Cool, cool. C'était comment? 19:30:30 je crois qu'il a plutôt souffert, mais c'était comédique :D 19:35:42 -!- Bike has joined. 19:36:37 Je ne suis pas une personne interrogée 19:38:12 Taneb: ne t'inquiète pas. tout va bien. prend une grande respiration, embrasse l'Univers, fnord, ouvre ton esprit, mange tes légumes, et la vie ira bien. 19:38:46 Oui, c'est la façon dont il est 19:40:05 qui est ce «il» auquel tu fais référence? 19:40:54 (meanwhile, the Stupid Vido of the Day is presented by... The Association of Longfused Linguo-Biologists: http://youtu.be/NFR-ADakI-c) 19:41:16 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1322240/ The case of the disappearing teaspoons: longitudinal cohort study of the displacement of teaspoons in an Australian research institute 19:42:21 boily, la vie, bien sûr 19:42:45 Taneb: vu de même, c'est logique. 19:42:57 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347208002467 Cerithidea decollata: a snail that can foresee the future? 19:43:42 Il <==> La Vie 19:43:43 Of course 19:43:44 Dammit 19:44:23 La vie doit être masculin, bon sang 19:44:51 boily: sciencedirect working now? 19:45:01 Wait, now it's broken for me. 19:45:04 What did you do! 19:45:51 Taneb: c'est féminin, et c'est comme ça. le genre en Français fait aucun sens, mais bon, il faut se compter chanceux; on en a juste deux. pas comme ces germaniques qui en on trois. 19:46:07 Bike: still borked on my side. I must be contagious. 19:46:14 D: 19:46:22 eh no big deal, it's an elsevier journal anywho 19:46:32 collection of* 19:46:42 Je parle à peine le français, je suis juste en utilisant Google Translate, en passant 19:47:27 Google Translate is best e 19:47:39 Taneb: I know. I'm testing the limits of feeding Québec French into Google Translate :p 19:48:11 How accurate is the Google Translate French I've been spewing out? 19:49:31 perfectly understandable. it's obvious it's been machine translated, but the structure is generally correct. 19:50:52 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 19:53:41 Google-translating your French titbits into English sometimes seems a bit weird 19:53:51 "...unlike German, who has three" 19:54:17 I suppose that's because English sneakily has three genders, just we almost always use the one that French doesn't have 19:57:26 «il faut se compter chanceux» → “we are lucky” 19:57:48 boily: i wonder why they think ladening snails will kill their path integration 19:57:51 «pas comme ces germaniques qui en on trois» → “not like those Germans who have three” 19:58:03 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 19:59:12 Ah, right, German 19:59:26 Der Männ, Die Frau, Das Kind 19:59:34 Plural? You're a woman! 20:00:49 boily: je pense que le nouveau format des citations est bonne, je l'approuve 20:01:07 s/bonne/bon/ 20:01:18 (that was google translate but except for spelling and grammar it's just like the wild guess I started with) 20:01:21 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 20:01:30 That was pretty good 20:01:42 The bonne->bon thing was the only thing that was off =) 20:02:04 boily: bien sûr que google translate n'en comprenne rien. il faut écrire "ont", pas "on"! 20:02:26 olsner: ça regarde bien de mon bord aussi. ça va juste me prendre une fungotload de temps à reformatter le tout... 20:02:26 boily: anyway it is hard trying to learn new paradigms? if so, the stuff in srfi-13. 20:02:50 nooodl: comment ça, «ont»??? 20:02:57 (je ne suis pas très sûr que je dois employer le subjonctif, là. mais ça a l'air "cool") 20:03:11 (un subjonctif bien placé, ça fait chic :D) 20:03:33 (ah oui! je suis en train d'oublier mes «guillemets») 20:03:41 "qui en ont trois" 20:03:46 mais en effet, la bonne conjugaison serait «n'y comprend rien». c'est plus ennuyeux, mais que veux-tu. 20:03:56 oh. typo de ma part. désolé! 20:05:02 boily: AUX LIONS 20:05:11 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:06:16 Roujo: eille :P m'a te garocher dans un troupeau de caribous si ça continue de même! 20:06:28 `run caribou run 20:06:29 bash: caribou: command not found 20:06:35 WE MUST FIX THIS 20:07:00 `run cadaver run 20:07:01 bash: cadaver: command not found 20:07:13 les dispositions des touches françaises ont-elles des touches pour '«' et '»', ou comment ça marche? 20:07:15 `run freedom run 20:07:17 ​♪♪ Freedom run away... ♪♪ 20:07:21 boily: you've already reformatted the whole thing a fungotload times, so I should ... regard your board? 20:07:22 olsner: here was my earlier example. saying " i wanted to marry scheme and perl are, they are 20:07:22 nooodl: Pas pour moi. =P 20:07:33 nooodl: boily est juste fancy comme ça =P 20:08:05 nooodl: AltCar-z et AltCat-x pour aller chercher les guillemets. 20:08:55 ZX 20:08:57 >nope 20:09:04 olsner: translation: “it also looks swell on my side. it's just going to take me a fungotload of my time to reformat that thing.” 20:09:04 boily: maybe i'll eat another one soon. it grows on you. i think if you really want 20:09:10 Then again, j'utilise le layout "Français (Canada)" 20:09:12 So yeah 20:09:30 fungot: I am not edible. 20:09:30 boily: i think i got the idea to anyone but possibly moonfish, so no comma should be inserted. but then again one could just load it up :) 20:10:25 I keep trying to parse what he says here - I never think to check who actually said it first 20:10:35 fungot: fyi, I'm of the homo sapiens sapiens species, not any weird sparkly fish, and if I see you approaching me with a comma in whatever hand-like appendage you have, you're gonna receive the *SMACK* of your life, you perv. 20:10:35 boily: not saying that optional arguments are hard. 20:10:43 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 20:11:02 fungot: that argument is not optional. don't try to flee from it, you silicon fiend. 20:11:03 boily: that is news, it reminds me of the ms source license, except that it never occured to me about stupid programming languages :) 20:11:24 -!- sebbu has joined. 20:11:49 fungot: acting smug while changing the subject and the license will get you nowhere, mister. I have ways to make your life miserable, so watch yourself. 20:15:06 there's way too much french here nowadays, I think we need more finns 20:15:42 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:15:42 Roujo: regäärde! möi aussi je parle en finnöis! :p 20:15:48 Well shit 20:16:54 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:17:55 olsner: jotain jotain perkele jotain... 20:24:27 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 20:27:41 boily: Sounds very authentic. 20:28:45 -!- oerjan has joined. 20:29:23 boily: aww 20:29:38 @tell oerjan helloerjan 20:29:38 Consider it noted. 20:30:59 oerjan: I *know* I @told you something, but what was it again? 20:31:13 Frooxius: who are you? 20:31:33 `relcome Frooxius 20:31:36 ​Frooxius: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) 20:32:09 Roujo: he appears in the Great Old Small Numbered Quotes. 20:32:16 boily: something about submarines 20:32:18 Oooooh. Nice 20:32:23 oerjan: oh hm. 20:33:11 although that may not have been verbatim 20:33:38 oerjan: no, it is not. 20:34:09 btw, do you have a github account that I can link to the repo? 20:34:15 nope 20:34:47 `echo Well crap 20:34:48 I AM THE LORD OF DARKNESS. ALL BOW BEFORE ME! 20:35:10 `/bin/cat bin/echo 20:35:11 ​/bin/cat: bin/echo: No such file or directory 20:35:19 wat 20:35:26 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:35:31 `ord `echo Well crap 20:35:32 96 101 99 104 111 32 87 101 108 108 32 99 114 97 112 20:35:45 oerjan: there was... uhm... eh... we *slightly* abused the bots today. a little. 20:35:55 O KAY 20:35:57 `echo Yeah, a tiny bit 20:35:59 I AM HACKEGO! I AM THE VOID! PREPARE... TO DIE! 20:36:43 What does `ord do? 20:36:48 `ord hats 20:36:50 104 97 116 115 20:36:53 Oooh, nice 20:36:56 shows unicodepoints 20:36:59 `ord ` 20:37:01 96 20:37:06 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:37:06 ^ord shows bytes instead 20:37:07 115 104 111 119 115 32 98 121 116 101 115 32 105 110 115 116 101 97 100 20:37:26 Roujo: i assumed you had redefined the echo command. 20:37:33 oerjan: You guessed wrong ^^ 20:37:43 `run /bin/echo $PATH 20:37:44 ​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin 20:38:06 huh 20:38:16 `which echo 20:38:18 ​/bin/echo 20:38:33 `run echo test 20:38:35 test 20:38:38 `echo test 20:38:40 test 20:38:50 `echo test 20:38:51 test 20:38:57 `echo See, everything is fine 20:38:59 I AM THE LORD OF DARKNESS. ALL BOW BEFORE ME! 20:39:00 `echo Yeah, a tiny bit 20:39:01 Yeah, a tiny bit 20:39:03 `echo il se passe des choooooooses mystérieeeeeuses ici. 20:39:04 il se passe des choooooooses mystérieeeeeuses ici. 20:39:17 `echo Roujo is a botbreaker. 20:39:18 Roujo is a botbreaker. 20:39:36 `run ls bin/*echo* 20:39:38 bin/echo \ bin/echo 20:40:05 Roujo: ooh, clever 20:40:09 <3 20:40:26 `run echo bin/*echo* | hexdump -C 20:40:27 00000000 62 69 6e 2f 02 02 65 63 68 6f 20 62 69 6e 2f 16 |bin/..echo bin/.| \ 00000010 16 65 63 68 6f 0a |.echo.| \ 00000016 20:41:04 There's a nice 02 02 right there =P 20:41:09 And a 16 16. 20:41:12 fizzie++ 20:41:35 Roujo: the clever part is where that doesn't get copied when i paste from putty into `ord :) 20:41:42 oerjan: Yup ^^ 20:41:52 Most IRC clients don't show control codes =P 20:41:57 Since they're, well, control codes 20:42:05 02 is bold 20:42:09 16 is reverse 20:42:15 Putting them twice cancels it 20:42:49 `echo And using them here makes it transparent to most ^^ 20:42:53 I AM HACKEGO! I AM THE VOID! PREPARE... TO DIE! 20:43:14 I'll find something more clever for next time =P 20:43:49 `echo it's subtle... 20:43:51 I AM HACKEGO! I AM THE VOID! PREPARE... TO DIE! 20:44:09 Vorpal: how's the child? 20:45:13 mtve: kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, fnord, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty... 20:45:28 Roujo: also, this all would have been revealed immediately if zzo38 were here 20:45:30 Vorpal has children? 20:45:55 oerjan: Why? =P 20:46:06 Eir client shows control codes? 20:46:34 Roujo: well, the one he made himself. 20:46:44 Wow 20:46:45 Nice 20:46:49 fizzie: according to the quotes, he was pregnant at one time. 20:47:14 Ah. 20:47:15 Roujo: s/Eir/Hir/. use real gender neutral pronouns. you're triggering me. check your privileges! 20:47:29 boily: now don't give us all a shock, i'm having trouble enough adjusting to fizzie being married. 20:47:38 boily: s/boily/pouti/g HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES 20:47:47 oerjan: Still? It's not exactly a new thing, you know. 20:48:02 fizzie: it's so out of character (for anyone here) 20:48:34 Roujo: let's duel! guerre des pouces! 20:48:41 We had a ten year anniversary-of-first-meeting day the other day, incidentally. That there is a decade right there. 20:50:02 fizzie met a girl 10 years ago. that's as many as one ten! and this is good! 20:50:23 Holy userboxes batman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzo38 20:50:43 fizzie: I just got that with my SO ^^ 20:51:12 "This user does not trust electronic voting machines" there's a box for every purpose. 20:51:21 fizzie: congrats 20:51:28 fizzie: grats 20:51:30 @tell zzo38 ooooooooooow. 20:51:30 Consider it noted. 20:52:57 "This place is reserved for a UserBox." 20:53:05 "Ceci n'est pas une boîte utilisateur." 20:53:18 I guess my girlfriend and I first met about 8 years ago, but we didn't pay much attention to each other until 4 years ago or so 20:53:41 `quote system is fairly sane 20:53:42 boily: i'm sorry, don't try to mess with proud Agoran gender neutral tradition, it will not End Well. 20:53:42 358) "system is fairly sane imagine if the roomba was called the Robotic Magic Vacuum would you object to that being trademarked I mean phrase trade" oops 20:53:47 fizzie, how can you be so OLD 20:53:55 -!- Bike has joined. 20:54:19 should I include quote #358 in elliott's list, or just put it under Sgeo_'s? 20:54:25 Phantom_Hoover: That's more of a criticism for an oerjan, is it not? 20:54:35 oerjan: I'll pronounify as I see fit. 20:54:47 fizzie: oerjan is a unit of measurement? 20:55:01 boily: What else would you measure oerjan with? 20:55:03 boily: Then you will die 20:55:07 well oerjan doesn't seem as old! 20:55:18 also words are annoying... "girlfriend" sounds too casual but "significant other" is too long and formal; "partner" is ambiguous plus people will think she's a dude 20:55:28 "This user needs more userboxes. MORE, I tell you, more!!! Muhahaha!" 20:55:31 I just use SO 20:55:42 how about POSSLQ 20:55:50 Roujo: That always makes me think of Stack Overflow, which probably isn't the best connotation to have. 20:55:54 haha 20:56:04 fizzie: Depends on your SO's reputation, I'd guess 20:56:17 ~duck POSSLQ 20:56:18 POSSLQ is an abbreviation (or acronym) for "Persons of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters," a term coined in the late 1970s by the United States Census Bureau as part of an effort to more accurately gauge the prevalence of cohabitation in American households. 20:56:54 and there I was thinking “Q” meant Québec, as in any other acronym you see here... 20:56:56 haha 20:57:24 Like the OQLF 20:57:57 Phantom_Hoover: i'm permanently eight years old, or so my dad seems to think 20:58:35 also she is in this channel sometimes 20:58:36 Roujo: speaking of the Language Police, it's been a while since we heard of them in the news, eh? 20:58:47 kmc: who is she, so I can PDF her? 20:59:27 her nick is douglass 20:59:27 kmc: what i remember about POSSLQ is that someone once made a song "Will you be my POSSLQ?" 20:59:30 she hasn't said much... 21:00:14 @tell douglass hi! do you consent to be PDFed? 21:00:15 Consider it noted. 21:00:33 ... 21:00:34 Welp 21:00:37 * Roujo gazes into the distance 21:00:39 Time to die 21:02:54 kmc: also wikipedia's article on that seems to indicate i remember wrong. i'll put it due to old age and senility. 21:03:11 *down to 21:03:48 wait, i don't think either of those are right. argh. 21:04:07 kmc: "girlfriend" is also an overloaded term ("going out with my girl friends / my girlfriend") 21:04:28 yeah 21:04:48 i thought the space was semantic in that one 21:04:50 not when guys say it though 21:04:56 I think it's generally unambiguous if you're male? 21:05:08 elliott: “my shrinkwrapped.” I know I shouldn't be laughing at that, but I can't stop. 21:05:20 elliott, not everyone with a girlfriend is male, though 21:05:41 yes, but kmc is... 21:05:46 yeah, the ambiguity is really only for female speakers ^^; 21:05:54 er no 21:06:11 not if you say it in a really camp voice 21:09:22 boot campvoice 21:09:28 *+ 21:12:44 http://motls.blogspot.com/2013/09/amplituhedron-wonderful-pr-on-new.html?m=1 some more info 21:12:59 Phantom_Hoover: haha 21:13:00 be careful linking to motl. 21:13:37 he's like the ulrich drepper of physics, or something. 21:13:58 he's a poster boy for engineer syndrome isn't he 21:14:03 what's engineer syndrome 21:14:38 where someone with some kind of technical expertise assumes it makes them an expert in everything 21:14:46 oh that 21:14:55 i would call it "programmer syndrome" but i'm a self-hating programmer so 21:15:04 I am an expert in everything. 21:15:06 "soylent syndrome" 21:15:08 i call it engineer syndrome because everybody hates engineers 21:15:28 engineers are great! long live engineers! 21:17:11 there seems to be like a general thing where some people when they see some other group of people doing something superficially dumb they will assume those people are dumb, rather than their knowledge incomplete (like "all these scientists are wrong") 21:17:26 (instead of "I don't understand fully what these scientists are doing") 21:17:47 yeah 21:18:02 "if they're so smart why aren't they programmers instead" 21:18:25 but like not really limited to engineers or programmers, I've seen it in all kinds of people I guess 21:18:36 kmc have you considered moving to a profession where you won't hate all your colleagues and yourself 21:18:43 it wouldn't last 21:18:44 marketing, say 21:18:59 I don't actually hate my colleagues and myself, though! I mostly avoid the bad parts of the industry 21:19:17 I work on open source at a kinda-non-profit with a bunch of amazingly smart and humble people 21:20:27 it should be clear that most of the reason I complain about programmers being shitty is some kind of projection or credible social committment to being better myself 21:21:02 it's not 21:23:49 -!- sebbu has joined. 21:26:57 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 21:30:36 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:31:42 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Poulet!). 21:31:47 -!- metasepia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:43:30 -!- ais523 has quit. 21:43:40 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:44:33 Roujo: regäärde! möi aussi je parle en finnöis! :p <-- i'm sörry, but be möre careful with vöwel härmöny when speäking finnish 21:44:41 =P 21:45:25 oh wait, maybe that was right 21:47:27 It seems okay. It doesn't have any of aou with any of äöy. 21:48:28 -!- nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 21:50:40 Fun fact: "möi" is the third-person singular indicative past tens of "to sell" ("myydä"). 21:51:25 that doesn't sound very agglutinating. 21:51:54 Well, a dialectal variation. "myi" would be the variant considered official, I think. 21:52:35 It's not always just prefixes, sometimes there's quite a lot of stupid inflection. 21:52:40 Er, suffixes. 21:52:43 Postfixes. 21:53:02 møe bedre 21:53:12 agglutin-free diet 21:54:22 `words --finnish 20 21:54:25 polvimmissämme kometrissa parauhoittöksähtämä epämme sykoltamastansa tutkimiltä ruhjovimpiassa tytinne ilma-anostani tunktontuvakielemmilla lauluvaksenne kalisempää maltavan nyrpeekseli altasisäkuviksi siutuviannetina juhlasi ahersyttämänne murtuimpinemalta vapainokirichteyksi 21:55:19 `words --drunk --finnish 20 21:55:20 Unknown option: drunk 21:55:47 clearly something missing there 21:55:59 the --drunk option is meaningless with --finnish since it can't be disabled anyway 21:56:06 also what's that c doing in the last word 21:56:27 olsner: sure it can, finns can be either drunk or tee-totallers. 21:56:30 Heh, "altasisäkuviksi" is a compound word, arguably somewhat meaningless but not completely outlandish; the individual components together would mean something like "from below to pictures taken inside". 21:56:43 (And "juhlasi" is "your party", but that's pretty lame.) 21:56:54 maltavan doesn't mean anything? 21:57:48 Sadly, not really. If it started with v instead of m, then it would. 21:57:58 valtio 21:58:41 also i repeat, what's that c doing in vapainokirichteyksi 21:58:44 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 21:58:46 oerjan: Now that you've said that, it makes me wonder if "valtava" (huge, gigantic) and "valtio" (country, state) have some common etymology. 21:59:02 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 21:59:08 oerjan: The /usr/share/dict files that were used to construct those have some loan words, I think. 21:59:39 shocking 22:00:11 Including "Emacs", it seems. 22:00:51 Also 43 inflections of "Dirichlet". 22:01:10 dirichletässä 22:01:25 And the word "Discworldistakin" ("also from Discworld") but no other forms. 22:01:42 I wonder if these have been automatically constructed from some text. 22:03:10 http://sprunge.us/iBDi well that's quite messy. 22:03:53 -!- nisstyre has joined. 22:04:42 "This dictionary recognizes over 6 million words and word forms. Ispell requires about 19 megabytes of memory when using this dictionary." 22:05:05 It's not the best spell checker for Finnish. 22:05:07 `slist 22:05:08 slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot 22:05:30 is alot even a real person 22:07:13 I think it's a fictional mammal 22:07:17 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 22:07:26 or "big furry creature" 22:08:05 I like this alot 22:08:11 fizzie: i like how it includes "200 most common words" 22:08:25 http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ca/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html 22:08:50 like how were any of those not already in the other sources 22:09:41 -!- augur has joined. 22:11:32 it seems the other sources where not very good 22:12:47 The other sources do not sound terribly good. 22:14:59 -!- Koen has joined. 22:15:33 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 22:16:33 Still, the Institute for the Languages of Finland has a 94110-word "general-purpose common modern Finnish words" wordlist licensed under LGPL, EUPL and CC-BY, wonder why they didn't use e.g. that. (Though very possibly it wasn't available back then.) 22:17:14 hello 22:17:49 -!- nooodl has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 22:24:24 goede avond 22:25:00 hm 22:25:05 *- +n 22:31:26 your dutch is impressive 22:31:54 *googling 22:33:19 Fun fact 2: the Europarl English-Finnish parallel corpus has 31852489 Finnish words made out of 675089 unique forms, but 47011793 (approx. 1.48x) English words made out of only 106841 (approx. 0.16x) unique forms. 22:35:02 Fun fact 3: the fourth most common Finnish word is "Euroopan" (Europe's). 22:35:10 (I think this corpus might have a kind of a bias.) 22:36:16 you don't say 22:36:37 have i mentioned how silly finnish is 22:36:57 50 most common English words: http://sprunge.us/OXVM 22:37:03 fungot: Can you speak like that? 22:37:04 fizzie: mr president, as usual, it seeks to bring prices down and raises standards of living in latin america, especially the most defenceless and disadvantaged, a few words about how this disease came about and how it is done in burma, and are in fact being reversed. on the other hand, where income tax is only 10% of the population, thereby fulfilling its commitment to peace, to economic and social operators at local level. th 22:37:32 fungot: You forgot the "h" in the terminating "hth" hth 22:37:33 fizzie: mr president, commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the socialist group have a reservation. surely we do not actually have anything against a fair tax burden, but the only issue on which the entire arab world with the exception of actions directly benefiting the people. 22:37:56 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:40:12 did fungot just not calculate line length properly there? 22:40:13 oerjan: mr president, the next mca will come along while in the opinion of the members of the committee responsible, which may mean that responsibilities become more confused in a europe which does not violate multilateral frameworks, in jointly protecting our interests and in our actions, a proposal, so we are not in a position to deliver its opinion. 22:40:31 oerjan: It doesn't really calculate line lengths at all. 22:40:38 did fungot swap personalities with someone? 22:40:39 (For the babbling.) 22:40:39 Koen: mr president, president chirac also expressed the hope that it is not linked to production, but we have a promise on page 12, last line, item 21, calls for a continuation of the supply structure of the proposed amendments would simply duplicate or encroach on these documents. 22:41:05 fizzie: oh, so it's just luck that it doesn't get cut off in the middle of a word more often? 22:41:18 he's talking to me about chirac 22:41:18 he was talking with fizzie about the entire arab world 22:41:24 a logical deduction is that fizzie is arab 22:41:41 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:41:42 fungot: is Koen insane? 22:41:44 oerjan: that would be in our midst. the only people who seem to be confusing anti-tank and anti-personnel mines is an enormous difference between degrees of enrichment of uranium has been a reality for the time and effort in preparing for these reforms are. the rapporteur himself says, this is not premature because the questions will be given priority over, for example, a political power game. we are engaged in a democratic cou 22:41:46 and oerjan is european apparently 22:42:06 -!- sebbu has joined. 22:42:24 so far all evidences support my thesis oerjan 22:42:25 ^style 22:42:26 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube 22:43:13 shachaf: the current style is obviously not nethack, but I can't say anything about the others 22:43:16 oerjan: Pretty much. Though there rules -- assuming no bugs -- make the stopping probability 1 after a 100 words. But that line that got cut off is just 74 words; politicians are so verbose. 22:44:01 fungot: don't you mr president me 22:44:01 shachaf: president of the european union would generate ten million jobs created between 1997 and 1999, we want to do something about this. 22:44:17 Yeah, we'd better do something about all those jobs. 22:44:37 fungot: what are we going to do about all those jobs 22:44:38 shachaf: mr president, the conditions for them. we parliamentarians have been fnord on behalf of the european monetary institute and the problem of the cost of currency exchanges. the commission's humanitarian aid gets through to them; the rest is up for discussion within the middle east. 22:45:51 Koen: watch the stars 22:46:24 the moon is full 22:46:25 what else? 22:47:05 Koen: i mean the stars of ^style 22:47:36 europarl 22:47:51 fungot: YOU are the star. 22:47:52 fizzie: mr president, please allow me, by way of clarification, the joint inspection structure, eur 100 000 to create four regional advisory councils. now to play that role in the advent of the information channels between olaf, the committee on legal affairs and the internal market, which will be extremely interested in as well the continuing lack of democratic debate and to this end. 22:48:06 I guess that is consistent 22:48:39 fungot: I'm not giving you a hundred thou for some advisory councils, just forget about it. 22:48:39 fizzie: mr president, i would accept that 10 of all the member states and the candidate countries have had the political courage to debate it. we extended candidacy to turkey. 22:54:42 -!- bike has joined. 22:54:47 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:03:27 -!- bike has quit (Quit: [spurious input; ignoring]). 23:16:29 -!- bike has joined. 23:17:39 -!- Bike_ has joined. 23:18:14 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 23:18:52 -!- bike has quit (Client Quit). 23:19:04 -!- Bike_ has changed nick to Bike. 23:22:15 -!- iconmaster has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:45:07 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:53:17 fizzie, why is there no finnish mode for fungot 23:53:18 Phantom_Hoover: mr president, i should like to congratulate mr scapagnini in his absence i am happy to engage in a process of peace and the respect of their own are entitled to bring this proposal to modify the current system in order to have any influence on those aspects where there is a small step. 23:53:20 imo there should be