< 1379548911 218572 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1379549128 441264 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379550070 792420 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379550338 995420 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379550606 288097 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run freedom run < 1379550607 781865 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​♪♪ Freedom run away... ♪♪ < 1379550875 209788 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: john_metcalf < 1379552028 477045 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379552081 165326 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379552507 727724 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379553370 523088 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379553381 30737 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder how this data structure is called < 1379553392 384918 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vector that's split into pages (of, say, 256 entries perhaps) and each page can be "rotated" by an offset < 1379553425 438079 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that if you insert or remove an element, you don't have to update everything, only the page where it was inserted/removed, and then the first entry of all the following pages (plus "rotating" the page to keep the order consistent) < 1379553484 311405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Interesting ^^ < 1379553562 611889 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379553661 300690 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random access is O(1), insertion/deletion is O(sqrt(N)) < 1379553845 383819 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prefers skip lists < 1379553916 245479 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average O(log n) search, insert, delete, index and O(n) in-order access? Whee. < 1379554086 585795 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you already get that from a tree? < 1379554131 584342 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexing? < 1379554137 668112 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, skip lists are easy. < 1379554145 645892 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1379554178 175923 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to go for a structure that's balanced mostly towards random access < 1379554224 186677 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with better performance than O(n) for insertion but worse than O(n log n) < 1379554348 939614 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fair note, O(log n) figures are average case. Worst case is O(n) < 1379554349 757318 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1379554381 334738 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you insert more data than a page though, then this structure wouldn't be faster than a straight vector though < 1379554408 296927 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need to introduce page remapping, which would slow down indexing < 1379554506 791339 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would also be possible to introduce multiple page levels, which would reduce insertion cost to O(cuberoot(N)), O(N^0.25), O(N^0.2) etc depending on the number of levels < 1379554533 56748 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or O(n log n) if you had variable number of levels < 1379554892 72265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379555543 523837 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike... isn't here < 1379555550 447987 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if Common Lisp didn't have gensym :/ < 1379555579 697297 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if common lisp macros were hygienic < 1379555584 500929 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl does not have gensym built-in. It's easy to write, but considering you have to do so or use a library, people might not think to reach for it < 1379555584 843698 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Bike What would Common Lisp be like if it didn't have gensym? < 1379555585 12831 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379556251 577477 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379556806 223808 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379557106 964399 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1379557178 700038 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell roujo like java without println, in that you can add the stupid thing back in like three seconds < 1379557178 875802 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379557892 548843 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379558347 797822 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1379558492 853915 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Quit: . < 1379558569 793047 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1379560406 257166 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but then everyone is forced to write their own or use a library < 1379560418 224477 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which could make using it feel more awkward < 1379560421 270604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1379560442 592736 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people do that lal the time for other stuff though. no big eal. < 1379560451 262462 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no big eel. < 1379560767 479607 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"• NULL cipher suites provide no encryption." < 1379560787 748061 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No shit? Why would/does SSL/TLS support something like that? < 1379560813 634772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :null cipher as in identity? < 1379560825 184589 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's something else, derp < 1379560853 609674 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it is? < 1379560872 748930 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A null cipher is an ancient form of encryption where the plaintext is mixed with a large amount of non-cipher material. It would today be regarded as a simple form of steganography. Null ciphers can also be used to hide ciphertext, as part of a more complex system." < 1379560881 392721 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to god. < 1379560898 855900 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using the first letter of each word, that kind of thing. < 1379560922 319030 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The null cipher in SSL seems to be identity < 1379560940 622227 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well, i'm sure somebody needs identity for something < 1379560946 871669 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :identity is just such a useful thing to have < 1379561234 743108 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379562112 324546 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379563762 414514 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379563918 501963 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379564751 677145 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone happen to know what happens if a C++ program uses __attribute__((constructor)) or equivalent with a function that can raise an exception? < 1379564825 7913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light < 1379564836 638689 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected that. < 1379564885 226887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't think the C++ spec says anything about __attribute__((constructor)), although it probably says what happens if the actual constructor of a global/static object throws < 1379564904 805955 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1379564913 235021 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the loads-on-dlopen stuff < 1379564996 1197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379565572 126217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1379565572 271359 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 18h 13m 35s ago: I have also started seeing the thing where wikipedia tries to change to https automatically. I kind of like it. I think it's set by the "Always use a secure connection < 1379565572 271443 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :when logged in" preference. < 1379565572 271486 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 7h 48m 2s ago: ooooooooooow. < 1379565626 406312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really do "Always use a secure connection when and only when logged in" with HTTP < 1379565640 387392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can send an HSTS header but it will apply when not logged in too < 1379565975 140757 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379565999 483460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have the full updated version of CGA Collection: http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/CGACOLL.ZIP The programs and documentation are updated, and there are some new ones such as Attribute Zone. < 1379566097 175418 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379566354 967952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 21:45 shachaf: Monads are algebras of the free monad monad. < 1379566358 75868 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trut < 1379566358 221156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:45 New slogan. < 1379566362 929477 :trut!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1379566753 378154 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379566810 757028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me if you like this game and of the upgrades it has, and of bug report, comment, opinion, question, complaint, and if you made up any new levels for these games and/or new games to add to this collection < 1379566886 760671 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-175-84.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379566928 727214 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379567003 719157 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379567382 781444 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379568045 606062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been thinking about the Newcomb's, and realize that purely statistically speaking, picking one box would seem to have the best expected value. However, "statistically speaking" is not the only way to speak. < 1379568421 459946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program compresses 28 sokoban levels into 942 bytes, although I am sure I could get much better compression than that; I have calculated that even simply adding Huffman coding improves will make it half the size. < 1379568512 381648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know a better way (which won't slow down too much or become too complicated)? < 1379568625 147067 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379569003 152322 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379569284 755054 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379569505 776133 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes pooryorick < 1379569513 499584 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4128 < 1379569680 830177 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379569883 716995 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379570310 611818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably technically use the NULL cipher if, for some reason (maybe to be NSA-friendly?), you want a non-encrypted but authenticated pipe. (Though that reason doesn't really hold for the TLS_NULL_WITH_NULL_NULL cipher suite.) < 1379570337 206334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :null tls with left beef < 1379570366 651363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :working nsa codename for skipjack < 1379570410 280476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, "Application data MUST NOT be sent prior to the completion of the first handshake (before a cipher suite other than TLS_NULL_WITH_NULL_NULL is established)." < 1379570472 85090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TLS_NULL_WITH_NULL_NULL is specified and is the initial state of a TLS connection during the first handshake on that channel, but MUST NOT be negotiated, as it provides no more protection than an unsecured connection." < 1379570496 906850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's cleaner to say that the handshake part also has a particular TLS mode. < 1379570594 956440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But e.g. TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA256 -- RSA for server authentication, the NULL cipher and SHA256 for the MAC -- seems to be on the cipher suite list, so I guess that's something you could negotiate.) < 1379570964 900921 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :''This project has been named Gandalf, which stands for "Generic, AdvaNceD Application Loader (Filesystem aware)", and it is inscribed upon the source that it is the "One Bootloader to rule them all, One Bootloader to find them, One Bootloader to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."'' < 1379570997 199766 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m-hm < 1379571010 865260 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note: This project bears no connection with the Lord of The Rings." < 1379571012 349647 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379571015 814063 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m-hm < 1379572063 254026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist (426) < 1379572065 878621 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist (426): shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1379572123 13257 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379572135 351982 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a good tuesday < 1379572149 542985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I forgot to read super mega for like a month. now I get lots of them in one go < 1379572603 733414 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379572730 381822 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1379572780 381642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: OK < 1379573790 126474 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1379573798 687439 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379575365 693992 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379577346 704010 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379578051 181252 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379578083 125548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379578263 698512 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379578471 207749 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 NICK :nvd < 1379578471 353182 :nvd!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, not registered < 1379578509 931555 :nvd!~nathan@92.30.223.129 NICK :Taneb < 1379578990 100110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Note: This project bears no connection with the Lord of The Rings." <-- of course not, a _real_ connection wouldn't confuse gandalf and sauron. < 1379579063 688917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i say you make the finnish fungot style out of all the spam that keeps coming these days. < 1379579118 129631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess getting finnish spam would not be as weird to a finn. < 1379579139 695805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Would you like to learn Finnish? < 1379579144 391320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379579165 348074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you rebelling against your maker? < 1379579175 536295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last thing in the log is that "Huh, not registered". < 1379579218 301768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something has gone horribly wrong! < 1379579404 600346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't get any Finnish spam. :-( < 1379579421 907643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :curious. < 1379579575 501156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious also: I get "PING :pratchett.freenode.net"s in the log every few minutes. < 1379579582 204163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a split without a split. < 1379579717 365605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is also on pratchett fwiw < 1379579767 741480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't it log his nick change? < 1379579773 201029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did log that. < 1379579778 446302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've said "last comment". < 1379579787 586224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything after the nick-change is just PINGs. < 1379579792 294604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1379579793 301176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1379579804 436959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your quote just came in. < 1379579812 947455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 14 minutes or so late. < 1379579826 680100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps there's some sort of a time distortion field? < 1379579831 147277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1379579887 732384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have timestamps in the rawlog to console, sadly. Perhaps I should have. < 1379580015 206321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still no sign of your first line mentioning fungot, which I guess means the distortion is getting worse. < 1379580023 46542 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: madam president, ladies and gentlemen, i think this is already the case for the past ten years, after fifteen years of decline due to the lower age limit of 18 years of this directive may well also prove quite difficult now. the second point which i would like to focus briefly on the issue of inadequate human and financial resources available. the same goes for the liberal economy and to the disadvantage of consumers an < 1379580044 836578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess, it just got in :P < 1379580068 678382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You chose... correctly. < 1379580073 105714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yours haven't < 1379580076 102219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1379580084 615776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny that the reply got through pretty much immediately. < 1379580101 39397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379580126 718290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere in the network there's a very long queue, I suppose. < 1379580209 74040 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as i think it is wrong that all the citizens of north korea to grow seed crops that will produce, we want a europe which locks people out. they have forced the flexibility instrument because, in balancing up the different methods of waste disposal as proposed by the commission. < 1379580225 383770 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: commissioner, you have set a timetable, as we have all been quite horribly murdered by people coming from some of the reasons why others cannot be overlooked in this information society are, ladies and gentlemen, i am more than happy to grant the commission discharge. how much is it? entirely because of the substance in a declaration. i hope you will understand history and the brutality was not just the euro, that it co < 1379580273 555193 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to learn Finnish < 1379580281 828092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 minutes < 1379580302 156998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a Taneb, but no way to know how soon he responded. < 1379580365 930794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment it is at "something has gone horribly wrong!" < 1379580434 416175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fungot whois from way back came in < 1379580476 485976 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to say that IRC feels a bit bumpy to me < 1379580491 688935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would say that, wouldn't you. < 1379580504 528479 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: madam president, ladies and gentlemen, i have supported, and the traffic in northern italy over the past few years with regard to a simple majority in parliament who are not. < 1379580537 68684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, when did you say the next fungot < 1379580545 602302 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when we talk about the dutch example that you yourself, mr santer made a statement on its positions concerning key budgetary issues. in respect of public health protection, the contribution of this report despite the fact that the treaty of nice which, mr fnord, the leader of the governing council if we really want to hold up a mirror to turkey's progress reports year after year hangs over the forests of the north. i fa < 1379580554 2986 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, you just responded to mr wijsenbeek and this house will take note of these. the commission welcomes the european parliament's estimates, also in the european union < 1379580568 316768 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping 9-49-30 < 1379580568 462013 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1379580568 968043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's caught up now. < 1379580569 534864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're back! you're safe! < 1379580633 629126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're back! < 1379580636 836028 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!! < 1379580661 23964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Taneb < 1379580676 680831 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure what is going on < 1379580703 662471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to see here but reflections from weather balloons, move along. < 1379580703 969316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, he's still distorted - in his mind! < 1379580764 438551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you also feel a weird attraction to learning welsh? < 1379580777 476128 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not relly < 1379580790 12740 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do have a lot of italian biscuit things < 1379580792 478045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. then i gues you aren't the reincarnation of tolkien anyhow. < 1379580800 512189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn, italian. < 1379580802 827567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1379580828 940800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the inspiration for one of his smaller elvish dialects < 1379580893 748485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: wait how did you silently change from europarl to ct < 1379580895 659993 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the knight spirit has long been broken! the mountain of woe. it's likely that dalton came from the laboratories to the west?... yes! well then rest and relax! huh? < 1379580895 822884 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did actually try to learn Welsh once < 1379580902 348899 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't get very far < 1379580912 376082 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379580934 785216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can the sword alone stop? < 1379580936 803849 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this world are places like that. a peaceful. hah! you think you are? coming and going out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1379581010 195263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, but how is that relevant to sword stoppability? < 1379581012 78671 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you, with you standing around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca the great magus. oh! crono!! < 1379581074 409755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: but i'm not very good with swords. might lose my arm or something. < 1379581075 978689 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!! i owe you one! you saved the day of lavos"... go to " mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1379581096 214762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well keep looking. < 1379581130 67327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought, given your exclamation points and the topic of time shenanigans, it would be more appropriate. < 1379581142 661998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1379581393 388018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@arr It's that day again! < 1379581393 750781 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Har de har har! < 1379582766 433566 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1379582793 21455 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379583438 224593 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379583813 689100 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379585157 311524 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379586103 190780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379588878 808810 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1379588903 792385 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379589833 756224 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379589938 974486 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379590094 568545 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379591029 680258 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379591738 370100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't help it that the Python list-flattening "idiom" (I'm not sure how widely used it) of [item for sublist in list for item in sublist] just confuses me. I can think through it with effort, but it just doesn't parse right in my head naturally. < 1379591761 904205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if they had it in the [item for item in sublist for sublist in list] order it would. < 1379593052 497863 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379593772 613910 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379593855 186448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379594178 685778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379595043 829106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the generic installed-by-default Unix-like tool for computing sums of numbers? I'm getting tired of always writing a perl or awk oneliner. < 1379595155 697141 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc < 1379595184 541647 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I think only bc is specified by POSIX, but historically speaking, dc. < 1379595278 139520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379595434 677331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've used bc but that involves making a summation expression, which is nasty too. < 1379595575 775377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the perl oneliner is the correct way to do it < 1379595828 747918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '1 2 3 4 5' | dc - <(echo '0ss[q]sq[z1=qrls+ssdx]dxlsp') < 1379595830 488009 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1379595831 267335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elegant? < 1379595847 640591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that's easier to construct than a Perl oneliner. < 1379595899 681140 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379596105 491838 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be J installed everywhere! make things much easier < 1379596240 323987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379596247 740640 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379596260 920573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) +/ 1 2 3 4 5 < 1379596261 276509 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 15 < 1379596280 945716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: < 1379596287 737211 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1379596293 472115 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that bot done? < 1379596310 995109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn hth preservation failure < 1379596331 393267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i don't know but jconn has been here for ages < 1379596347 38355 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just beautiful < 1379596348 29420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Note: This project bears no connection with the Lord of The Rings." < 1379596348 998314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Note: This project bears no connection with the Lord of The Rings." < 1379596355 50729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379596391 335519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you accidentally paste with your stomach you might be having your laptop too comfortably placed < 1379596438 645786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good since-when-oerjan-can-hth-again morning! < 1379596457 662723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: J. < 1379596470 485907 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know J < 1379596479 478346 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know how that bot works < 1379596491 488881 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to rewrite that for myself < 1379596528 313736 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: iirc, you'll have to ask Jafet. I think he's the one who's jconning this chännel. < 1379596554 861272 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am writing an xmpp bot ;) < 1379596633 815459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i've always been able to hth, just not at the end of the line < 1379596654 164132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. tdh. < 1379596732 201305 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is d for did or for didn't? < 1379596750 278989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be did, otherwise you say < 1379596781 954701 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tdh is not the tdnh, if twh. hth. < 1379596801 627669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how many hth variants are your barred from? < 1379596869 358823 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379596875 862749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hth, twh, twnh, tdh and < 1379597674 373061 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-175-84.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1379597681 947231 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-84.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379597682 92560 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379597696 906942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, we live in a world where, after something attains perfection for a while, it then becomes unfashionable and falls out of use. < 1379597726 775504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(daily oerjan melancholy) < 1379597933 314290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wait 20 years, then your melancholy will become retro and vintage. < 1379597998 588443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that happened 20 years ago, then it went out of fashion again. of course it happened during the _one_ period in my life when i wasn't depressed. < 1379598023 760252 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell are you talking about < 1379598044 697035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yeah, pretty much. < 1379598086 893683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theory that i'm already dead and in hell has a lot going for it. < 1379598110 998192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION somehow laughs, anyhow. < 1379598136 559969 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives a herring plushie to oerjan < 1379598178 867880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a friendly gesture, but i'm afraid it's a red herring. < 1379598251 575662 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only appears red because of hell's lighting. it's an optical illusory friendly herring ersatz. < 1379598347 902806 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i still haven't figured out what a piece of code did you gave me once :D < 1379598389 800242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well i've forgotten? < 1379598402 173836 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely < 1379598423 509484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could paste, if you like. < 1379598426 130887 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was (2+(1< [(2+(1`shiftL`x))`shiftL`(-1-(1`shiftL`x)) | x <- [-2..2]] < 1379598601 821195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1379598607 780838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1379598608 17864 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1379598620 240340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t shiftL < 1379598625 933462 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bits a => a -> Int -> a < 1379598631 301053 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379598732 998222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok if x is negative, that gives 2<<(-1), which should be 1. < 1379598745 54782 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379598783 769543 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it should be 0 < 1379598795 947368 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you came to this :D < 1379598928 927784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the idea is that shifting y right by y would give 0 for any number, but by decreasing the shift slightly you can get a few exceptions. < 1379598947 876710 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, #esoteric < 1379598986 455268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, step 1: 1< [09:20:01] oerjan: how many hth variants are your barred from? < 1379600189 316233 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[10:06:08] [09:21:15] boily: hth, twh, twnh, tdh and < 1379600191 789844 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1379600223 746278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not allowed to use them at the end of sentences < 1379600227 300604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the "and" < 1379600233 264033 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know =P < 1379600241 858662 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I found it funny < 1379600257 300366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just curious as to what that last one was < 1379600260 995374 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's tdnh < 1379600268 105545 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yeah, probably < 1379600269 684573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thaks < 1379600271 821923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379600272 113231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379600273 704970 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would help, that would not help, that did help, that did not help < 1379600275 945984 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/a/an/g < 1379600287 236428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: most of them are in the wisdom. < 1379600288 70006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, netsplit! < 1379600288 690407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379600289 214127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1379600290 570078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1379600321 729950 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a nice conversation with Koen the other day, re: netsplits < 1379600330 879734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about being on the "right side" of the split < 1379600350 135341 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how he always managed to do that, since it was always the other side that quit the channel < 1379600376 365708 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379600377 221045 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1379600383 176434 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Tayler < 1379600386 795544 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Tayler: Welco04m11e to the02 intern04ational hub for e02sote14ri04c prog14ra05mming 04language design and 04deploymen14t03! F10or more info09rmatio11n, c13heck out our w07iki10: h11ttp://esolan02g11s.org/wiki/07Main_Page.08 (12F05or th05e other 05kind of esoterica, try #eso13teric on irc.dal.14net.)12 < 1379600389 602151 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here? < 1379600393 109955 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup ^^ < 1379600426 387231 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379600428 689316 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Roujo < 1379600435 266307 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya. How is it going? < 1379600437 202359 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up? < 1379600441 49809 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The moon, mostly < 1379600447 684583 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, updog < 1379600454 532304 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 273 seconds < 1379600471 159234 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moon? < 1379600476 214150 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the moon is up < 1379600483 854189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs updog < 1379600508 154453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: SNAPPY < 1379600510 877908 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you from? it's day in my house rsrs < 1379600527 43179 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3990 < 1379600530 566711 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tayler: It's day here as well, and yet the moon is up < 1379600564 727881 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it hehe < 1379600573 778096 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Most of those are about dupdog. That's sad =P < 1379600583 560636 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kkkkkk < 1379600591 160626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes, but look further < 1379600600 406314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm elliott split < 1379600605 98327 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : And then elliott brought in another totally unrelated bot named updog which did nothing but say "what's updog" whenever its name was mentioned. < 1379600605 828313 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379600681 312974 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PART :#esoteric < 1379600725 353251 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he left! why do they always leave! I was typing the The Question! and asking him about his opinion on the malleability of steal! < 1379600735 173182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next time elliott complains about botspam in the channel, just mention updog < 1379600742 888172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not. < 1379600765 803973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's ok you don't need to ask the the question of people who aren't staying < 1379600789 894347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it's fun... < 1379600794 851636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be the center of mass of #esoteric, not people-who-once-passed-through-#esoteric < 1379600819 75872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the Regular Center of Mass, not the Transient one < 1379600828 206249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I only log the Relevänt Coördinates of People who Stay Here Enough to be Graphed by Fizzie. < 1379600857 633670 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shudders in terror at the memories of transient responses in unstable dynamic systems < 1379600882 829378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1379600906 523231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and besides, I assume temporary visitors have no measurable mass. < 1379600936 776907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well they're basically virtual particles, so presumably they borrow mass from the vacuum. < 1379600994 127335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in light of that multidimensional eldritch amplitudedron, that confuses me even moreso. < 1379601014 49882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hedron < 1379601034 664692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just yog sototh, nothing to be upset about < 1379601052 658535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+h < 1379601081 62415 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I was worried there for a moment. < 1379601432 667128 :updog!~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379601533 184992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. «updog (~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca) a rejoint #esoteric». < 1379601533 370123 :updog!~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379601542 238260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle. real subtle. < 1379601570 528143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was inevatble. < 1379601606 253883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i considered suggesting it, until i remembered how much trouble it was last time < 1379601684 26845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm .ca, perhaps this isn't elliott's work < 1379601698 798702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glares at Roujo  < 1379601711 177442 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much trouble is it if no one actually says updog < 1379601711 322452 :updog!~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379601734 492313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, that's not the troublesome part iirc < 1379601800 670321 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's hosted somewhere on a server probably southeast from downtown Montréal. < 1379601826 944066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why do you think i'm glaring at Roujo < 1379601847 310446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what you're talking about < 1379601852 151075 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no server involved at all < 1379601862 746894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: neither did elliott, last time < 1379601937 769971 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the worst that could happen? =P < 1379601964 78790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T ASK THAT QUESTION < 1379601972 276435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :...too late? < 1379601980 431987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh, you'd think he doesn't even _read_ tvtropes < 1379601985 393703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69.70.0.0/16 belongs to Vidéotron. 69.70.96.0/19 is tied to a small hosting provider, linked to the Parti Québécois. the nearest good phở is in Chinatown. < 1379602010 684218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION touches wood. no way I'm gonna get jinxed by an untroper. < 1379602014 848037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i see boily is slowly revealing all the important relevant information < 1379602039 561971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or – if BSD is involved – xkcd < 1379602050 132428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1379602050 595352 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379602101 924357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this probably explains /dev/null/nethack, actually, which uses BSD exclusively < 1379602110 185857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's run by NetHack players, they know how to deal with sharks < 1379602124 992029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the extra effort that takes subtracts from the time actually getting the tournament running < 1379602164 366386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: congratulations, you've managed to be too obscure to google < 1379602202 557416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because I don't rely on Google, I don't structure my sentences in such a way that Google can easily explain what they're about < 1379602207 188096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which part were you trying to google? < 1379602246 219226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have only got to the xkcd part < 1379602294 37132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xkcd.com/349/ < 1379602297 108837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :found via duckduckgo < 1379602339 666312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a direct link, but the explainkcd page about it was the third result for "xkcd bsd sharks" < 1379602346 488300 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :From broken desktop to sharks in 14 hours flat < 1379602347 258097 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1379602387 228259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well i was trying to include "worst that could happen" < 1379602400 303473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this conversation is probably some deeply profound statement about search engines < 1379602403 676122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just not sure what < 1379602449 854306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote reference #also this < 1379602451 907984 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :88) Darn, now I can't acknowledge the reference you were making. < 1379602454 815586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1379602477 938883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote obscure < 1379602479 504064 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :798) the scene: it is a warm summer's day in scotland, although one obscured by cloud and the fact that it is september < 1379602489 457023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone remove the quote. < 1379602519 118193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of quotes, what should I down about those from People that Left the Channel and Probably will Never be Back? < 1379602552 696137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep them < 1379602559 370664 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :For they shouldn't be forgotten < 1379602587 154381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 798 < 1379602606 13011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ais523.*cultur < 1379602607 734850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379602619 527202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ais523.*cultur < 1379602624 711557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes ais523 < 1379602625 825670 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 798 < 1379602635 96014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18809 < 1379602637 543978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :798) the scene: it is a warm summer's day in scotland, although one obscured by cloud and the fact that it is september < 1379602640 696896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379602643 655130 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379602646 879782 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-08-24.txt:23:42:16: ais523: also, rich for you to say essentially "how can not know " < 1379602730 864825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'll lump them in a section, then. < 1379602787 19992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ais523.*obscure < 1379602795 867075 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-02-06.txt:17:17:28: ais523: i think yours is a bit too obscure, yeah < 1379602804 344262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SIGH* < 1379602846 876803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need more search terms than that < 1379602851 195116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to find, anyway? < 1379602856 1821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you need to find it to know what it is? < 1379602859 502412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :An obscure quote, probably < 1379602884 43774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i don't remember the wording used < 1379602909 882673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i vaguely recall having trouble searching for it before < 1379603113 961708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: who are you, so that I may not have to lump you and that you may Shine with your Own Section? < 1379603126 836828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ais523.*obscure.*reference < 1379603135 479005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-04-29.txt:17:11:51: ais523: OBSCURE REFERENCE BUDDIES *HI5* < 1379603146 779995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1379603156 751379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog \.*obscure.*reference < 1379603165 881939 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-04.txt:05:10:37: 2011-12-01.txt:21:31:28: (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) < 1379603182 289641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it that one that you're looking for? < 1379603183 262405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1379603268 294437 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I am the world's number one expert on Befunge and Funge-98. < 1379603273 458775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnily, it returned a previous search attempt instead of the original < 1379603310 422281 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: thanks. < 1379603326 984690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Deewiant is the world's number one expert on Befunge and Funge-98. < 1379603331 981569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379603368 200110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think I agree with Deewiant there < 1379603387 785400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ages, the ontopic discussion here was sustained via Deewiant and Vorpal discussing Funge-98 < 1379603401 40703 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember who said that originally. (I know it wasn't me.) < 1379603402 41812 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've had on-topic discussion here? < 1379603412 416202 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379603428 239856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah < 1379603432 942929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be ontopic all the time < 1379603446 250615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it stopped, and I stopped going here because there was no reason to stay < 1379603447 405215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the channel is Old. I'm digging deep into its History as we speak. < 1379603452 587899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, there used to be offtopic discussion too < 1379603458 710403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was a smaller proportion < 1379603464 859599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was also rather more distasteful) < 1379603472 708936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog expert on Befunge and Funge-98 < 1379603473 541229 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :On-topic conversation will not be tolerated. < 1379603477 638404 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote did you even read the bible < 1379603479 445782 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379603479 648204 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379603483 847518 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It probably wasn't in those words. < 1379603485 622531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do you really want to drive me away from the channel again? < 1379603493 659231 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1379603495 726851 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1379603525 915472 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to create another language < 1379603585 476744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Fnooordl < 1379603678 883365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to try and collab? < 1379603687 402531 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And usher forth a new age of esolangs! < 1379603691 571980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the idea? =) < 1379603692 733390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sure < 1379603708 999769 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now all we need is a cool idea < 1379603740 616692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1379603754 101751 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something to do with modulo arithmetic? < 1379603761 811861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of my ideas were either a) made into esolangs, b) turned out to be almost impossible to make into esolangs, or c) I haven't had the time to work out the details of < 1379603787 449974 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of my ideas were either a) stupid, or b) stupid and also made into esolangs < 1379603812 819662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, even stupid ideas can be interesting esolangs < 1379603812 997972 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379603816 17385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see Quiler, for instance < 1379603836 290461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I just searched that on Bulbapedia rather than Esolang by mistake < 1379603839 401858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no results, unsurprisingly < 1379603869 973771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Esolang made out of Pokemon! < 1379603897 275362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PokéArena < 1379603902 672457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dataflow / visual programming of the bastard child of Maple, Mathematica and Matlab! < 1379603912 903802 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/g o/g version o/ < 1379603918 148922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfinished, by the look of things < 1379603925 978231 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds a bit unwieldy =P < 1379603954 208406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see me and zzo38 trying to make PokéArena more realistic on the talk page < 1379603971 197501 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking more along the lines of pokemon being variables, with attacks being keywords (the effect depending on the type) < 1379603975 73478 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah < 1379604050 268123 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, like you said on the talk page =P < 1379604051 595818 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WELL < 1379604075 766345 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could start over with a new Pokémon-themed esolang < 1379604114 617950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: typo on page 34 of the quotes PDF: there's a ~ that's rendering as a nbsp rather than a ~ < 1379604158 602715 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it "Battle" or something < 1379604200 19488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that there's only 6 Pokémon on a team, with 4 attacks, 1 item, 1 ability each < 1379604206 616335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting hard limits on the size of the program < 1379604210 827534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's interesting in its own right < 1379604232 288882 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice catch. I'll have it replaced soon. < 1379604246 993770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: say, do you have a github account, so that you may commit it yourself? < 1379604251 157695 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, each Pokémon 6 stats, an experience value, a nature... < 1379604259 796146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, Taneb is atriq? < 1379604267 564394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just Gitorious < 1379604274 788322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a mostly irrational hatred of github < 1379604282 1466 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379604298 762024 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes, I swear this is about the third time you've come to this revelation < 1379604304 331538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also Ngevd < 1379604308 455013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you're Ngevd < 1379604311 359760 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this morning I registered nvd < 1379604323 366542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is atriq a rot-13'd ngevd? < 1379604336 315532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1379604346 858929 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 atriq < 1379604347 956160 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd < 1379604353 672031 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 taneb < 1379604355 411881 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnaro < 1379604360 682464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: time to face you fears. otherwise, spiders, your mom, and all that psychanalysis stuff. < 1379604365 353742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, did you ever design that Rummy mixed with Breakout language? < 1379604368 600637 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gnaro" sounds like it ought to be a Pokémon < 1379604376 215365 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1379604376 722939 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't think so < 1379604384 513475 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the context for that < 1379604388 368929 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 rot13 < 1379604390 78494 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebg13 < 1379604391 485783 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rummy < 1379604393 204603 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :435) So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? < 1379604401 297403 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot26 rot13 < 1379604402 653363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rot26: not found < 1379604402 798891 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was me badly misunderstanding something < 1379604404 769452 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff < 1379604427 78350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it's called `echo < 1379604444 319255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "rot13 four times" is one of the stupidest of the Slashdot memes < 1379604485 354198 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379604493 611888 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 Slashdot | rot13 | rot13 | rot13 < 1379604495 226465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fynfuqbg | ebg13 | ebg13 | ebg13 < 1379604500 496092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379604502 310425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rot13 Slashdot | rot13 | rot13 | rot13 < 1379604504 599752 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379604510 18850 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would a rummy-mixed-with-breakout esolang look like? < 1379604517 769749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rummy, and Breakout, presumably < 1379604536 972080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the ball would bounce off the cards < 1379604537 946829 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: who are you? are you Deewiant? do you want to be undescribed, lumped or separated? < 1379604556 630423 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, in Rummy you have to collect (say 7 card hands) a 7-card straight or a 3 of a kind and a 4 of a kind < 1379604571 669799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that, yes < 1379604573 686188 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In breakout, you have to bounce a ball on a paddle to destroy bricks < 1379604578 272763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1379604606 569817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the rummy part could have limited storage and be used for control flow and the like < 1379604617 921664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the breakout part could be for the unlimited storage < 1379604619 849020 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested < 1379604650 534883 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I shall certainly think about this < 1379604659 83742 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I must leave! < 1379604677 885590 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379605051 325380 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379605055 966757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the early recorded history of the channel seems to be centered on sex... < 1379605081 4273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it was < 1379605092 433691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tended to stay out of those discussions < 1379605144 589337 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that Armok isn't on the Wiki < 1379605204 663386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Frib/Armok < 1379605223 565516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think the Deewiant era is where fungot came from < 1379605223 711112 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1379605232 725784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, must be set to chrono trigger mode < 1379605290 866053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but fungot is fizzie's! < 1379605291 11336 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but, we are far outnumbered! princess! i see you're dressing...normally again! chaos confuses you into attacking allies! a little tough on friendships! blind you can't see too well, ho!! see ya around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca < 1379605294 988883 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379605295 134264 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379605312 805922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, fizzie was using the improvements in Funge-98 interpreter design to test out fungot on < 1379605312 990587 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by thy leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono! < 1379605319 163729 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I dimly remember fun­got appearing at some point < 1379605377 428194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fungot had to be created at some point in time < 1379605377 574115 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! < 1379605385 71985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't just existed forever < 1379605388 74120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, relevant answer, neat) < 1379605404 379653 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could have been here before me, in which case I wouldn't remember its appearance < 1379605422 675297 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or after, but I haven't left yet and it's already here.) < 1379605547 827464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Perhaps some kind of a stable time loop. < 1379605578 521719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In 2047, I'll use HackEgo's `send-to-the-past command to send it back to whenever it was it appeared. < 1379605594 210418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're getting /very/ close to Feather territory there… < 1379605614 25178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in 2047: EgoBot still won't be merged in HackEgo. < 1379605622 236830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why did I get five contradictory responses to /ctcp version? < 1379605624 400695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`df < 1379605624 988313 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need for an unimplemented HackEgo feature, we already have TRDS < 1379605625 695563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory < 1379605642 401854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`df / < 1379605644 164919 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory \ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on \ - 0 0 0 - / < 1379605652 190178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2047, Hong Kong will be merged into China. < 1379605694 45057 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They don't ALL contradict. < 1379605712 798760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the xchat ones all give different processor speeds < 1379605720 264220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it turned out not to be called Windows 9 after all < 1379605770 959033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :xchat's "processor speed in ctcp version" thing is kind of silly. < 1379605811 281873 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1379605812 545631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They could just put the vpenis.sh output in it directly.) < 1379605877 518256 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :find /proc -type f -exec cat {} ';' < 1379605915 759426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any -type f in /proc? < 1379605918 789875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you forgot the `run < 1379605928 417772 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also "forgot" the ` < 1379605934 456714 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since that wasn't intended for HackEgo. < 1379605940 867081 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a suggestion of how to make a CTCP VERSION line. < 1379605953 734874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379605957 415163 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, of course, most of /proc is files. < 1379605967 347672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I thought none of it was regular files < 1379605977 622728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it might be full of irregular files pretending to be regular files < 1379606228 412087 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell asiekierka lumps and bumps and sections and stuff. < 1379606491 151732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes django < 1379606497 814896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27727 < 1379606750 292539 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379606792 340843 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379606802 229509 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379606958 810625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: does Dwarf Fortress even allow you to craft items out of lava? < 1379606991 735606 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379607254 657386 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It allows you to direct dwarves to craft items out of former lava. < 1379607366 564601 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379607472 349480 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379607495 659317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :insufficient :( < 1379607624 424767 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I've reading about skousen's analogical modeling, and I think it would be a fun logic language. You could tell it 2+2=4, 3+3=6 and 3+2=5 so when you asked it what 2+3 equals half the time it would say 4 and half the time 6 < 1379607648 176991 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even have to define functors < 1379607823 611076 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: brb < 1379607848 947234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that work? < 1379607862 865080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just looks for the closest match and randomizes between them? < 1379607956 864280 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogical_Modeling < 1379608014 359734 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it finds the set of generalized matches that minimizes internal dissagreement < 1379608043 963366 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then has them vote on the result < 1379608057 199319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379608167 301121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems pretty eso < 1379608232 337583 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379608299 635958 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a couple other algorithms that do about the same thing, but they are used for modeling how people generalize a set of examples to categorize new instances. < 1379608376 589119 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379608481 204967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: does Dwarf Fortress even allow you to craft items out of lava? < 1379608482 426357 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1379608488 989669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity < 1379608500 401662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does let you pour it on nobles making unreasonable demands < 1379608755 920869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1379608767 894359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that your preferred method of disposing of them? < 1379608772 470363 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can cool lava and make obsidian items < 1379608910 727185 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, although admittedly i never actually implemented it < 1379609063 631646 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379609095 998247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was more common to drown them, or create rooms that they would fall out of < 1379609108 998995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, is it possible to exile dwarves, rather than just killing them? < 1379609114 948818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :locking them out of the fortress, or the like? < 1379609159 265602 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that either amounts to killing them or has no effect < 1379609167 529435 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379609179 519636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're alive, and their mandates aren't met, they'll still be able to issue random punishments < 1379609222 175496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people will actually pay attention to them? < 1379609232 296509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems unrealistic < 1379609245 334823 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are dwarves. < 1379609407 646854 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF < 1379609410 832386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realistic < 1379609421 864863 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. It *is* pretty realistic at times. < 1379609459 143562 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet dwarves will go outside, one after the other, in the middle of a siege, just to try and get that wool sock that's lying aroud < 1379609473 150403 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :df <3 < 1379609585 797792 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that game < 1379609624 719003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you guys know about the Armok programming language? < 1379609686 922231 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds amazing < 1379609701 615051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and people will actually pay attention to them? < 1379609712 266951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just goes straight through to your justice system < 1379609738 239604 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379609742 282180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually you can completely neuter them just by not establishing one, but that has other disadvantages < 1379609934 646871 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://github.com/Frib/Armok < 1379609946 448500 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm reading it < 1379609965 886778 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No nobles yet, but still =P < 1379610077 606506 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarves handle rocks... you can get rocks by mining... that makes me wondering, is that a zero-sum programming language? < 1379610105 95289 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the only way to increment a variable is to decrement another, or something < 1379610115 555698 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1379610125 559409 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mining creates 64 rocks from one block < 1379610129 690914 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do we have other zero-sum esolangs? < 1379610151 269136 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would indeed be interesting < 1379610179 158016 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it Equilibrium or something < 1379610183 489544 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be original, imagine the following brainfuck-derivative < 1379610194 567987 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yayyy, YABFD! < 1379610220 818888 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an unbounded tape of -128 to +127 non-wrapping cells, all starting at zero < 1379610247 339000 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hmmm there's a toggle which can be PLUS or MINUS < 1379610258 872016 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when it's at plus, the - instruction is a no-op < 1379610267 379313 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when it's at minus, the + instruction is a no-op < 1379610282 759998 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say, + in your language is like +>-< in BF < 1379610284 450620 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and instructions are the same as in brainfuck except every usage of + or - toggles the toggle < 1379610290 149199 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you have zero-sum < 1379610302 57088 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm yeah I'm afraid < 1379610316 941713 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay it's not so interesting then < 1379610322 133741 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen's version sounds a lot more impractical < 1379610322 316465 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1379610324 376283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1379610334 183876 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379610361 111818 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379610397 832918 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yeah but you could convert any brainfuck program into this derivative by replacing + with +>-<, - with ->+<, > with >> and < with << < 1379610408 324712 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except for the non-wrapping thing) < 1379610428 54622 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Righ =P < 1379610431 435729 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right( < 1379610435 823580 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1379610441 160504 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's boring < 1379610457 349581 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay what about: < 1379610460 784736 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make it so that odd cells can only be incremented < 1379610463 332146 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every cell starts as 1 < 1379610470 51527 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even cells can only be incremented < 1379610473 848787 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cells can only be positive < 1379610475 143020 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1379610483 450684 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :even cells can only be decremented < 1379610502 922093 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1379610508 861911 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore you can't double every cell with its negative < 1379610517 440385 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because there are no negatives) < 1379610525 943174 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about this < 1379610538 279203 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everytime you increment a cell, a random sector of your HD is decremented < 1379610545 406278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And vice-versa < 1379610550 337982 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379610555 509094 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay you could start with an initialization loop that fills a lot of cells with +128 but that would be reaaaaaally impractical < 1379610571 511744 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahah < 1379610576 629116 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379610601 129285 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note: This interpreter must be run as root. Don't ask why. Just let it be." < 1379610619 833152 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write directly to /dev/sda < 1379610622 909507 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because < 1379610625 153681 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379610634 565609 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it default on suicide linux < 1379610640 915742 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suicide Linux <3 < 1379610816 88157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to make a BF deriv that a) isn't stupid, and b) you can't trivially compile BF into < 1379610821 808584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not impossible < 1379610890 363612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf2d :p < 1379610948 182476 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, replacing the tape with a single tape makes it equivalent to push-down automata, and therefore you can't compile bf into it < 1379610956 292620 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a single stack < 1379610967 340152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you replace the tape with a punch-card < 1379610974 896204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: yeah, BF-PDA < 1379610985 42846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not that interesting either IMO < 1379610993 298510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a Splinter→BF-PDA compiler could be interesting < 1379611010 81288 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not interesting why does it have three or more pages on the wiki? < 1379611015 998050 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainstack, stackfuck, etc < 1379611028 665536 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stackstack" < 1379611061 720818 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainqueue would be much more interesting < 1379611062 966910 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brstackck < 1379611075 729193 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :QQ < 1379611294 362194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if it's not interesting why does it have three or more pages on the wiki? ← because BF derivative < 1379611405 718147 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha I like the BF-PDA page < 1379611414 954593 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"possible modifications" < 1379611430 237597 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379611440 48322 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "this is brainfuck with a stack, you got the general idea, do whatever you want with the details" < 1379611442 896817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's with the BF-derivative hate? =P < 1379611452 429921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog brick.*brain < 1379611460 201333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-11-09.txt:06:33:57: And delegate the brickbraining to me. < 1379611462 271649 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's more like BF-derivative sadness < 1379611484 846867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically we'd like the esolangs to be more interesting than yet more pointless derivations of BF < 1379611496 278388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some good ones (PaintFuck is a good one I didn't write) < 1379611500 414828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but plenty more stupid ones < 1379611527 29249 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so it's a matter of them being unoriginal, then? < 1379611586 869053 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, phantom-hoover.tumblr.com < 1379611590 566506 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there are some good ones, and also one good one I didn't write" < 1379611679 670265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: there's more than one good one I didn't write < 1379611688 426174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I thought that would be an amusing way to word the sentence < 1379611707 27555 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be reassured I was amused < 1379611814 202211 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1379611845 135718 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379611874 999072 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>It replaces part of boolfuck with words such as “derp” and “herp” < 1379611911 393768 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kPRA0W1kECg < 1379611914 103814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man this is cool < 1379612034 497660 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Quick sort is amazing < 1379612051 110838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait til you get to lsd radix < 1379612072 317974 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merge sort sounds like good old computer sounds you hear in movies < 1379612118 495231 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap radix sort < 1379612246 2038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitonic is good too < 1379612348 386531 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we just sorted the actual bits? < 1379612359 121229 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be quicker? < 1379612385 455102 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nevermind, that was a bad joke) < 1379612426 617141 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well basically it's a question of working out how many 1's there are in the input < 1379612458 178349 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more efficient to count the 0 bits < 1379612490 90243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it be more efficient? =P < 1379612540 622206 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379612609 852768 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what Bitonic sort is doing < 1379612620 746701 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1379612622 541461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bogosort < 1379612633 527612 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ~parallel~ and therefore crazy afaict < 1379612657 621230 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww, they didn't let it finish D: < 1379612698 789687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379612848 802257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bogosort is so cute < 1379612885 780733 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the worst algorithm I've heard of, though =P < 1379612897 494798 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also Intelligent Design Sort < 1379612926 572363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379612933 459340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who crystal-cola is, but I like them. proper LaTeX in their replies. < 1379612946 739841 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there we go: Miracle Sort < 1379612965 428803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's bogobogosort too < 1379613048 912181 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intelligent Design Sort: The probability that the input list would be in the order it's in is 1/(n!). That probability is so small that the list *must* be that way for a reason. To try to sort the list further shows ignorance of the Sorter's ways. < 1379613053 989077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brb < 1379613117 538100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell NihilistDandy can I extract some kind of biography from your person, so that you may be paraquoted? < 1379613123 919887 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379613337 193681 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379613458 944702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"New in version 3.2" "3.1.3-12+squeeze1" oh no < 1379613957 763453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: who are you? where do you come from? are you a living entity? what is the effect of capitalism on the growth of birch trees? < 1379614065 3949 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say that effect is rather uneven < 1379614165 593889 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows. maybe there's a correlation between the two! (r² < 0.01) < 1379614301 750127 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r squared of negative zero < 1379614609 86158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did I /nicked myself groily... < 1379614615 703643 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you now? < 1379614618 184038 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see it < 1379614619 608735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnarly. < 1379614620 866728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see anything < 1379614632 888793 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while, really < 1379614648 226415 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some weird stuff going on in the disparate quotes... < 1379615023 646701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379615455 504362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, sleepsort. Sounds nice enough. < 1379615503 839814 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379615592 563095 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1379615603 418574 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :insertion sort looks like it's using dichotomy to find where to insert the elements < 1379615611 428747 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a thing? dichotomy insertion sort < 1379615669 521779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used insertion sort mainly when the data to sort isn't all available at once, it can do one at a time, sorting it into another buffer < 1379615686 847905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about dichotomy insertion sort, though. < 1379615709 74256 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379615834 314013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379615835 139489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: I don't know what a "dichotomy" means in that context, but if you mean it determines the insertion position with a binary search (over the already-sorted part), I think that's called "binary insertion sort". < 1379615845 710139 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1379615868 51768 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though such an insertion in an array sounds kinda dumb since you have to move everything anyway < 1379615885 14314 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use a linked list! =D < 1379615888 527867 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cutting a list in half usually isn't O(1) either < 1379615893 558573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubly linked, too! < 1379615915 654297 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess you'd need some kind of tree structure for that to be efficient < 1379615917 611246 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintuply linked is the way to go < 1379615929 218191 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it sounds like we just reinvented heap sort < 1379615929 658576 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finding the spot to insert it in would be O(n), actually putting it in would be O(1) < 1379615937 295179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: It can be a good idea if the comparisons are expensive but swaps are not. (List of pointers to long strings or whatever.) < 1379615946 979025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/master/tutorial-conditions.html#conditions these are pretty weird < 1379615950 843758 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: O(n) dichotomy doesn't sound very useful < 1379615961 721100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like... dynamically bound delimited continuations? i don't even know < 1379615963 526683 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, you're doing a binary search < 1379615965 859268 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better! < 1379615981 428187 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm I guess that makes sense < 1379616005 892849 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cool, it's like CL's. < 1379616031 595945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL has this? < 1379616042 931265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work well? < 1379616071 921608 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A successfully trapped condition causes execution to continue at the site of the error, as though no error occurred. < 1379616073 987376 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1379616100 636634 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically when you "handle" a condition you install a type-function pair in the dynamic environment, and then when an error happens it looks through the dynamic environment to find a pair with the type of the error < 1379616117 942774 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can make a code that has "x / y" somewhere in it, and wrap it in a "try ... with Division_by_zero -> 3" and if y = 0 it will act as if x / y = 3 ? < 1379616124 539443 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"on error resume;" < 1379616127 420361 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really very useful, like for example, when i had an irc bot it would raise an "i don't understand this type of message" condition < 1379616140 144060 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in my code i just had it handle that as ignore and continue and it worked great < 1379616140 289204 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all the quotes from anybody ever are currently covered. < 1379616153 452417 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"throw new IDontEvenException("wat");" < 1379616154 377221 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using an external irc library i didn't want to mess with, i mean < 1379616173 132736 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Congrats! =) < 1379616182 34864 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: i think so. < 1379616194 395001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :conditions freak me out a bit < 1379616197 331508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they feel a little spaghetti < 1379616209 49130 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they're easy to fuck up probably < 1379616209 452636 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's really very useful, like for example, when the key doesn't go in the lock I just have to force and it works great" < 1379616210 75120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they kinda break RT :P < 1379616216 996653 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rt? < 1379616224 360660 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank goodness rust has like nine types of error handling apparently < 1379616247 486267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :referential transparency < 1379616257 702812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: just like haskell! i feel so at home < 1379616268 107300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because (x / 0) is _|_ but then it's also 123 or 346534563456536 instead depending on the surrounding context < 1379616276 753974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess you could just separate asynchronous exceptions out as a separate concern. < 1379616300 946996 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw is it me or did they drastically reduce the number of elements to sort when showing off particularly inefficient sorts?) < 1379616308 129449 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL: (handler-case (/ 4 3) (division-by-zero () 3)) => 4/3, (handler-case (/ 4 0) (division-by-zero () 3)) => 3 < 1379616313 769010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably learn how to use delimited continuations one day < 1379616314 359245 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen, yes < 1379616316 591193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1379616321 320227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dittomc < 1379616337 967647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you used Cont? :P < 1379616344 195782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Haskell? yes < 1379616373 745271 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you used Cont in Rust! < 1379616379 440571 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379616380 758513 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rust-factorial < 1379616386 283362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1379616399 215881 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponentially rustier for the hands-on ninja developer. < 1379616409 279067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, delimited continuations are just Cont, pretty much. < 1379616415 665655 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome sorts looks like it's trying to do insertion sort but the insertion is very approximative < 1379616434 848258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is my skeptical face < 1379616440 210636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome sort is insertion crossed with bubble < 1379616445 468060 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is the mother of all, kmc. < 1379616456 949422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ContExample.hs [4K] < 1379616457 94558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sample shift/reset code in Haskell, in the Cont monad -- the monad for delimited control < 1379616458 415169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bubble-insertion sort < 1379616467 228031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reset :: Cont a a -> Cont w a < 1379616467 373413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reset = return . runC < 1379616467 373485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift :: ((a -> w) -> Cont w w) -> Cont w a < 1379616467 373546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- for new mtl 2.x < 1379616467 373602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift f = cont (runC . f) < 1379616480 163446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an Oleg face but I'd be using it if I did < 1379616489 575725 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: just had to merge some stuff and do minor corrections. please check the new PDF. < 1379616491 22723 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitonic sort: merge sort except the merging part reshuffles the list < 1379616496 255985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still have no idea wtf bitonic sort is < 1379616507 728661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dymaxion sort < 1379616508 938290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there something on page 34 with a tilde being incorrectly parsed? < 1379616512 467052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, bitonic sort is awesome < 1379616513 149419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fetch https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1379616515 286582 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: fetch: command not found < 1379616521 226560 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1379616521 744778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the most parallelizable of sorting algorithms < 1379616526 749362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-09-19 18:48:45 URL:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf [476823/476823] -> "wisdom.pdf" [1] < 1379616532 506929 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom.pdf < 1379616533 930770 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​%PDF-1.5 \ % \ 2 0 obj << \ /Type /ObjStm \ /N 100 \ /First 798 \ /Length 1046 \ /Filter /FlateDecode \ >> \ stream \ xڅmo6SD.Euiv < 1379616543 520743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Looks like garbage. hth. < 1379616545 748352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's pretty similar to mergesort in how it works < 1379616560 487239 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwwwwwwwwww bogosort < 1379616569 182447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp just gives us this helpful diagram http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/BitonicSort1.svg < 1379616573 581915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps Roujo with a slightly damp soviet-era sorting algorithm < 1379616742 13698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "While the jth record is being processed during a straight insertion sort, we compare its key with about j/2 of the previously sorted keys, on the average; -- [We can use a binary search.] This method is called /binary insertion/; it was mentioned by John Mauchly as early as 1964, in the first published discussion of computer sorting. The unfortunate difficulty with binary insertion is ... < 1379616748 534611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... that it solves only half of the problem; after we have found where record R_j is to be inserted, we still need to move about (1/2)j of the previously sorted records in order to make room for R_j, so the total running time is still essentially proportional to N^2." -- D. Knuth, /The Art of Computer Programming, Vol. 3, Sorting and Searching/. Second Edition, Addison-Wesley, 1998, chapter ... < 1379616755 448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... 5.2.1, pp. 82. < 1379616761 340340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1379616764 144448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koan: ^ < 1379616773 179245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. "Koen". < 1379616801 203661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comment was so long that I couldn't see the attribution line any more. (Don't know where the Bike came from.) < 1379616887 572170 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1379616907 133518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379616924 673497 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then does he uses that to think "okay, we need a data structure that allows dichotomy search, but also has O(1) insertion? < 1379616941 356827 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and come up with some tree sort or something < 1379616946 129769 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he use* < 1379616957 259361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: This PDF won't load in my computer; do you have another file? < 1379616977 436100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1379617035 969598 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what pdf viewer are you using < 1379617041 469940 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What < 1379617058 650173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the curse of zzo38's setup < 1379617099 248460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: No. After describing the two-way insertion sort (another trick), it continues with shellsort and other things. < 1379617117 990975 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would recommend evince < 1379617131 220099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a file other than PDF? < 1379617133 250816 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhh silly me I thought "shellsort" stood for "the sort command in the shell" < 1379617140 415082 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it opens with evince < 1379617159 433215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how come? what's happening? < 1379617174 251569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it opens with okular. < 1379617181 469621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day, I generated a PDF file locally and tried to submit it to IEEE. and got a "this file could not be converted to PDF" error back. < 1379617186 991590 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There's the original LaTeX file, if you want it < 1379617188 240402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i recommend sending him a dvi < 1379617207 730550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out the pdfTeX-1.40.13 I have here generates a PDF 1.5 file, while the pdfTeX-1.40.10 sticks to PDF 1.4, and that made all the difference. < 1379617208 615047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source file will do fine, since I am sure I can load that in any text editor. < 1379617213 264609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll send you the dvi, and if you want you can join the github repo. < 1379617222 87421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a DVI will also work fine. < 1379617250 536738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sticks/at work sticks/ < 1379617269 393965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I took the compiler less updated by, and that made all the difference" < 1379617307 464319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.dvi < 1379617335 197099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if that doesn't work, I can make a PS. < 1379617435 256741 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "burma": ask bike < 1379617449 796386 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is hereby asked < 1379617466 107314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have downloaded it, now I have to wait for it to load the fonts < 1379617468 694279 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PART :#esoteric < 1379617497 271152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys were very creative with having me put through incongruous latex loops... < 1379617509 644949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the horrors I had to commit... < 1379617524 569989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, there's a \photon{} somewhere.) < 1379617552 258704 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379617560 581357 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? LaTeX < 1379617562 747582 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is \end{verbatim} \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1379617564 597135 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1379617597 957646 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was an easily dodgeable open attempt at trying to make my Glorious Document not compile. < 1379617615 296027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't the goal, no < 1379617615 872778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the DVI doesn't work; dvitype crashed too < 1379617640 308460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did Yap and DVIOUT < 1379617684 212409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ldots{} \ldots{} \ldots{} < 1379617694 716080 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: just what kind of setup do you have??? < 1379617768 630133 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : Roujo: the curse of zzo38's setup < 1379617772 887968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: MiKTeX < 1379617786 375607 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: what do you want to know? < 1379617799 242745 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379617811 900891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is your github account? < 1379617814 679276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: It does describe quite many variants of insertion sort, including the linked list insertion sort, and the tree-structured arrangement. ("This possibility was first explored about 1957 by D. J. Wheeler -- A similar but simpler tree-insertion scheme, using binary trees, was devised by C. M. Berners-Lee about 1958 -- Since the binary tree method and its refinements are quite important for ... < 1379617820 696274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... searching as well as sorting, they are discussed at length in Section 6.2.2".) The whole Shapter 5.2.1. ("Sorting by Insertion") is 26 pages long. < 1379617832 146668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shapter, yes. < 1379617858 352893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't have any. < 1379617862 335967 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Shah Peter < 1379617864 542202 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I want to ask "burma" < 1379617867 213914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote "Chapter", then noticed it's called "Section" for references in the text itself, and somehow thought just changing the first letter was sufficient. < 1379617869 652372 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1379617874 564854 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have done so. < 1379617963 320620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.tar.bz2 < 1379618032 644644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :C. M. Berners-Lee, any relation to Tim? < 1379618044 287494 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379618106 880321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: His father, I think. < 1379618116 168041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379618121 427478 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379618125 127919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379618134 802467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway_Berners-Lee has no M < 1379618139 10018 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I hope downloading the sources didn't make your machine crash... < 1379618144 912681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: See the External Links section. < 1379618166 783699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It didn't crash (although I haven't extracted the archive yet). < 1379618172 246000 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379618200 429013 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heap sort is kinda twisted - we're gonna take the elements from the array to put them in a tree, then take the elements from the tree to put them back in the array - except the tree is stored in the array, so're basically we're completely reorganizing the array into a still-not-sorted-but-with-some-logic-you-cant-see-yet array that will be easier to sort in the future < 1379618211 469470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (Well, all the "C. M. Berners-Lee" references. I don't know what the M stands for.) < 1379618225 406531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1379618240 131755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Most of the files have strange filename and other things probably not needed so I only extracted the *.tex files; those ones will load fine in a text editor. < 1379618252 843059 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides... Is there still interest in a programm that's fed with program code and determines the language(s) the code is written in? Cause I've got a concept. < 1379618257 872637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conway Middlename < 1379618295 659924 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: probably. Could be useful < 1379618313 974380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: OK, although such thing wouldn't always work < 1379618323 78700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can work sometimes, though. < 1379618327 535890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be worth a try. < 1379618347 179192 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can add it to google translate < 1379618355 795688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The marriage of Conway M Berners-Lee and Mary L Woods is registered at Hampstead, Middlesex 3rd quarter 1954 vol 5c page 1925 --" it seems a mystery, lots of references but none mentioning the expansion. < 1379618360 680676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it's listed *somewhere*. < 1379618361 729342 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Google Code Translate" < 1379618402 997884 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you only need the .tex files to compile the stuff. the source/ folder is a local copy of the wisdom DB. README.md is a readme. < 1379618404 23269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some programming languages can even vary their syntax, such as Forth and TeX < 1379618418 873344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"http://sprunge.us/bXPJ Tim talks of his parents. < 1379618426 677703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disregard the ". < 1379618456 887859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, yes I have only extracted the *.tex so it is OK, but of course to compile it, I would also need LaTeX and all of the packages and fonts you used. I can just read it in the text editor it is fine, though. < 1379618493 27299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it is a fact. < 1379618524 562190 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :By now, just `pastequotes? =P < 1379618547 47064 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, boily added more than just the quotes. Nevermind ^^ < 1379618575 933234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added EVERYTHING! < 1379618703 690180 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bright green is a little bit to light, imho... < 1379618725 28485 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little bit is lightable enough, isn't it? < 1379618756 667441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to/too/, says I. < 1379618768 813324 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/too/to/g, no u < 1379618775 890633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I'm stuck with a Supertramp piece in my head. < 1379618794 163690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(“give a little bit... ♪”) < 1379618833 799404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. the phở uses the right font. I... don't know how it happened. < 1379618971 676386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there might be a few duplicates? (Or maybe I am wrong) < 1379618987 697364 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in splinter, if a capital letter is followed by '{', then it's the store-to-splinter instruction, and if it's not followed by '{', then it's the push-splinter-to-program instruction? < 1379618988 964558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should you change "Plain TeX" into "Plain \TeX" to print using the TeX logo? < 1379619026 781157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: yes < 1379619045 846094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, anyway < 1379619046 515302 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay thanks < 1379619050 920336 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay then if anyone is still interested in the Esolang identifier concept I made: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11001067/EsolangIdentifier%20Concept.txt < 1379619054 540144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't Splintered for ages < 1379619075 932557 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[insert turtles joke] < 1379619105 143986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the duplicates are a conscious decision. if multiple people locute a quote, then I put it under each relevant section. < 1379619121 544994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, OK. < 1379619142 68143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I'll \TeXify the references to Plain TeX. < 1379619167 508215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain \TeX isn't used-- oh, nevermind < 1379619169 123949 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1379619178 208821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist Terezi sniffs out a conspiracty < 1379619180 44337 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist Terezi sniffs out a conspiracty: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379619191 691164 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: how about first trying to identify if keywords are actually words ("if", "while", etc.) or rather single-char ops (like brainfuck) and then moving on to identifying them? < 1379619233 421174 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what? < 1379619246 636697 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... < 1379619252 688031 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: for what? ;) < 1379619264 754734 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if keywords are actually words then you can split the program into tokens according to whitespace < 1379619269 726813 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does `slist do? < 1379619272 526814 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help slist < 1379619272 862623 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1379619276 55223 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>nope < 1379619279 296263 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're parsing befunge then every char is a token < 1379619316 478064 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slist < 1379619318 699669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. < 1379619342 984426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you are using \verb! to quote something that contains a exclamation mark? < 1379619376 202138 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? list < 1379619377 805572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :list? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379619378 544853 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379619378 755274 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1379619399 346849 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: I don't differ between single-char keywords and multi-char keywords. There could be a language someday (or with high probability already is) that does so, too. < 1379619400 152410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `? list is dead? < 1379619404 117488 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn list is a fun program that HackEgo has! Run it with `list and join the fun! < 1379619409 165848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379619410 890377 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I use \verb+...+. < 1379619422 906417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: O, OK. < 1379619439 409075 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: Whitespace has to be detected properly, too. I would not split anything. < 1379619443 932178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo Hats < 1379619444 195727 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hats < 1379619449 51963 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `list < 1379619449 359338 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1379619451 206641 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Roujo Sgeo SgeoBot SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1379619463 813085 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go! Bots can have fun too! < 1379619475 168413 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: And maybe some keywords even overlap... Like for example in a polyglot < 1379619494 431516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm having some problems with overfull hboxen, but nothing impossible to resolve. < 1379619501 208989 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: well I can think of http://esolangs.org/wiki/Alight which is especially weird to parse < 1379619501 868077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello world" is a perfectly valid brainfuck program < 1379619521 563447 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, I know how I can fix these things in Plain TeX, not in LaTeX though < 1379619560 824395 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's generally impossible to do perfect language detection, due to polyglots. Unless it reported all of the languages of course. < 1379619595 780816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Yes, that is one reason; there are also programming languages with varying syntax, programming languages that accept any input file, and other things. < 1379619605 816055 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "your mama" is a perfectly valid brainfuck program < 1379619635 871861 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw this is my first your mama joke ever < 1379619653 507979 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: “Taneb: "your mama" is a perfectly valid brainfuck program” is a perfectly valid reason to make you choke on a ballistic bowl of gaszszszpascho. < 1379619663 196736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, any file without unbalanced square brackets is a valid brainfuck program. < 1379619670 330498 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes < 1379619676 95858 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to do it with snowflake! < 1379619680 419935 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, any text file, at least < 1379619690 265310 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess that doesn't apply :( < 1379619696 289169 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :snowflake's syntax doesn't change < 1379619711 223149 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pity < 1379619723 311154 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the program is in emmental or mascarpone and the syntax evolves to have bits in every language in the wiki < 1379619796 556376 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: uh shit... well I hope that 1) there are at least some keywords in that language written horizontal. 2) the programmer is intelligent enough to recognize a 2D language -_- < 1379619815 285204 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't thought about option 2 < 1379619835 264751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't know who crystal-cola is, but I like them. proper LaTeX in their replies. < 1379619847 600969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola has gone by many nicks. < 1379619891 396869 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swears in Québécois < 1379619901 623785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who are they, then? < 1379619930 888300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mystery. not here at present. last time was as katla. < 1379619964 888739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unusual thing about last time is that e _didn't_ explode violently before leaving afair. < 1379619967 128204 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that's like wiping your arse with a silk hangman's rope < 1379620006 412559 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you look at the recent CGA Collection? Do you like to write a review of it that fits in one line of the wisdom file? < 1379620035 361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck CGA Collection < 1379620035 145842 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379620048 99278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: j-invariant is probably also in the quotes file. < 1379620059 232686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is the CGA Collection? < 1379620082 267034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It is a collection of public domain computer games for DOS computers. < 1379620085 849157 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I... think I saw some of their quotes in there. peek at the last section ↑ < 1379620100 411856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/CGACOLL.ZIP You can download the source-codes, executables, and documentation. < 1379620164 12789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let me guess. j-invariant is someone else. < 1379620177 187312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: perusing that in a few minutes... I'm reformatting Taneb. < 1379620189 749427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear < 1379620364 776641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This ZIP file will fit on a single 3.5" floppy disk. < 1379620392 728375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it need to be double density? < 1379620437 987001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you are all nice and shiny, now. < 1379620440 2981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I haven't checked, but a 1.44MB high density disk works. < 1379620452 737952 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379620453 37298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it work in qemu? < 1379620497 267059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or probably dosbox) < 1379620505 531496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have not tried, but if it has DOS then I expect it to work. < 1379620525 181861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : try to do it with snowflake! <-- itym emmental < 1379620540 97245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fall in love < 1379620541 972047 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :558) Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love \ 578) 678) Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love 187) Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. what whaaaaaaaaaaaat < 1379620553 329717 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can remember the context for that! < 1379620558 94047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do tell =P < 1379620598 276917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: j-invariant = crystal-cola < 1379620599 548515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, I named all my Pokemon after people in the channel < 1379620615 16215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379620616 390390 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An opponent used "attract" on the one named for Gregor < 1379620622 80187 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it works! < 1379620639 788402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK. Do you like this? < 1379620652 412691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379620653 942111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it! < 1379620679 953535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can play sokoban! < 1379620687 968244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me if you made up any new levels for any of these games, too. Or even, to make up new games in QBASIC to add onto this CGA Collection! < 1379620768 898082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS SOUND! ☺♪ < 1379620769 262901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two games mentioned in the documentation but which aren't yet completed enough to include in this CGA Collection; eventually it will be, though. < 1379620836 860700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I wrote the music for these games using the MML. < 1379620890 318844 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379620905 397288 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379620908 868113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The music for the "SKEDALS" game is in Bohlen-Pierce, though. Most of them use ordinary 12-TET, however. < 1379621061 173472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you liket he other game too? Which ones did you try so far? < 1379621151 617905 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379621167 443057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, I can't really try them right now, as I'm at work. < 1379621190 862869 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, the PDF is part of my work. it's a periodic pause.) < 1379621195 460431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK, try later perhaps, or someone try < 1379621213 654673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the files are there, tempting me with their sexy lo-res bits. < 1379621635 883346 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379621824 79812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixellization fetish < 1379621913 910305 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm a japanophile. what else did you expect? < 1379621942 430696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So can you play Japanese mahjong then? < 1379621954 362543 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat japan >> boily < 1379621961 200943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He plays Shogi, so yes? < 1379621965 25785 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ish? < 1379621966 956704 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :45-lines ocaml splinter interpreter working < 1379621986 370996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm in a japanese mahjong club. we play every two Sundays. < 1379621994 250347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do androids dream of the fisherman's wife < 1379621995 973344 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379622020 945720 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :task for next week: splinter to bf-pda < 1379622030 126454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: come play mahjong with us :D < 1379622044 137595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play Washizu mahjong? < 1379622070 782540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What rule variants do you use when playing mahjong? < 1379622079 218769 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1379622080 647936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379622089 239648 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not-Solitaire Mahjong < 1379622102 697461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please forgive my mindblank >_> < 1379622126 95792 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I played classic chinese at first, but now I exclusively play riichi. some members play hong kong (I should learn the rules some time). < 1379622156 961304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: concerning variations in a single style, we don't apply kuitan nashi, we use kuikae, and sometimes play with yakitori. we never use uma, though. < 1379622158 277718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1379622170 828178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: We never even met yet. Mahjong might be a little too... forward? < 1379622186 601196 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come by my apartment on Saturday and we'll talk about it < 1379622190 846276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: enwéye don, viens faire un tour! on mord pas! (la plupart du temps) < 1379622214 715558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like kuitan nashi either; I play kuitan ari, but don't use yakitori < 1379622241 372454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kuitan nashi is for... uhm... Roujo, how would you translate «moumoune» in English? < 1379622244 250695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't yakitori a way of cooking chicken < 1379622251 463556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also. < 1379622267 415337 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "Chicken" < 1379622268 705704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, but in mahjong it is penalty for someone who never wins a single hand during the game < 1379622272 162565 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yakitori is rough on the nerves. it makes the game very stressful. < 1379622305 593220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uhm, if I may correct you, yakitori is a game of chicken where you have to declare riichi at least once during East and South. < 1379622332 706964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if all four players have called riichi, it resets) < 1379622343 455268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: thanks. < 1379622348 837725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That is a different kind of yakitori game then < 1379622360 505490 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: let me check, just to be sure... < 1379622364 603063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What happen in case of no-ten riichi? < 1379622401 183453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made up a few variants, though, even. One is that menzenchintsumo counts 1 han toward the requirement for winning but it doesn't score 1 han; another is that ippatsu doesn't count for self-drawn. < 1379622410 956267 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah. wikipédia points to your yakitori. < 1379622444 414387 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in no-ten riichi, you hope somebody else wins. if you get to an exhaustive hand, you *have* to show your hand, and then it's chombo. < 1379622487 910261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know it is chombo, but does it cancel the yakitori counter in your kind of yakitori game when that happens? < 1379622504 113988 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell if you guys are pulling a Mornington Crescent or not < 1379622515 206247 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: menzen tsumo is just like any other yaku. ippatsu on a tsumo is just dramatic and fun :D (did it last sunday. it was completely undeserved, made me score a haneman as oya. it was grandiose!) < 1379622530 866523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: me either < 1379622535 811001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: eeeeeeeeeh... we never had that scenario happen. < 1379622546 194968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that is a perfect way to describe the sense of confusion < 1379622547 148378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: honestly, everything you see here is real mahjong. < 1379622556 193113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you ever play Mornington Crescent? < 1379622575 731100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, but I do have a map of the London Underground. < 1379622576 159980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play Berri-UQAM with my SO, if that counts < 1379622593 712085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll have to ask our expert player next time. that point is very interesting. < 1379622598 301605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ha ha ha! < 1379622641 308887 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fun! < 1379622654 616292 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with the Special AMT Extension rules < 1379622752 956987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: my favourite yaku combo is the Infamous Men Tan Pin (tsumo, tan'yao, pinfu), nicknamed the «Anyway en tout cas bin là» here (quote mash-up from a bad movie). < 1379622791 295040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: plug in a riichi, pile up the dora, and get a ludicrous amount of points from your disgruntled opponents. < 1379622847 567721 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: is the Montmorency/Cartier transition valid, or do you stop at Concorde when doing a double-lateral? < 1379622870 698590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other things I eliminate are the "all green", and the bonuses for first-turn stuff. I also allow players to declare riichi even if your score is negative. < 1379622915 333083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379622947 110386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I can't tell if you guys are pulling a Mornington Crescent or not <-- zzo38 is the last person in the channel i'd suspect of doing that. < 1379622954 211863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: all green is epic. a girl did that with suankō during a tournament, while oya. 96000 points. < 1379622977 980773 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, when a player is bankrupt, it ends the game. if you don't have at least a thousand left, no riichi. < 1379623001 543602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: my bro actively tries to achieve tenhō. hasn't worked yet :P < 1379623006 694789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You are playing dobon, then. < 1379623018 566749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And how can you actively try to achieve tenhou? < 1379623025 937509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yup. I did that last Sunday on a chombo :D < 1379623037 878648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was furiten, and called ron.) < 1379623046 296873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ask Pouti. < 1379623065 770351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: comment t'avais fait la dernière fois pour réussir à faire que le Pouti s'en vienne sur le channel? < 1379623106 405510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just play that when calling ron when furiten or otherwise an invalid win, you have to expose your tiles but then you can put them back up and the game continues normally. If you make incorrect calls too often then you may be disqualified (except for no-ten riichi) < 1379623196 839762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in games between regular members, it's chombo, and that's it. it seems harsh at first, but nobody really minds. < 1379623208 581143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when playing with my friends from Québec City, it's much more lenient. < 1379623219 35405 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and when alcohol is involved, screw penalties.) < 1379623293 57294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To simplify it a bit, I also ignore the fu, and just treat it as always 25 fu, so that there is no rounding (some players use 30 fu, but this results in rounding); this also results pinfu slightly different, more like the "All Chow Game" in the Singapore game < 1379623333 568045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me the rounding is considered a bit unfair. < 1379623342 858286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Je lui ai demandé de se pointer sur FB? =P < 1379623369 145528 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also, yeah, Montmorency/Cartier is alright, it's just... weird. I've never seen it work. >_> < 1379623375 166600 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most common hands lie on the 30 fu line, so you get to know the points by heart. otherwise, it's 40 fu. very rarely you get an interesting hand at 50. < 1379623381 839038 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: logically. < 1379623388 979833 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it's legal < 1379623471 934747 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it works in weird tournament matches between 3 players, but only if the Drapeau handicap is applied to an out-of-town visitor. I think they changed the limits to Longueuil in 2006 for that, otherwise there were too many corner cases left. < 1379623478 349922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, OK, but I do use many variations of the rules, like I have said; it is the game I prefer anyways < 1379623496 562292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you plan to visit Montréal in the foreseeable future? < 1379623516 832384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, I currently have no such plan. < 1379623528 922929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: :( < 1379623591 560856 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means I'll have to cross the Great Puddle some day if I want to match you. < 1379623633 7273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I will go over there in some day, but I don't expect so. < 1379623701 215755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could meet in the middle. < 1379623706 481899 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, I wouldn't know. My SO is the only one I play with =/ < 1379623735 805074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still prefer the Japanese game over the other mahjong games, though! < 1379623740 582318 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379623746 977872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you sometimes play Washizu mahjong? < 1379623770 136177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no. I am subject to vasovagal responses when my blood is involved. < 1379623789 21378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can play without your blood if you want to, as long as you have some way to keep track of hit points < 1379623848 269210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have a friend like that. < 1379623855 460882 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, blood in general, really < 1379623861 654614 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's hemophobic < 1379623880 503338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:48:21] we could meet in the middle. < 1379623882 7574 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good plan < 1379623885 396107 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me how that goes < 1379623893 855477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other's people blood I have no problem with. I just really prefer that mine stays inside my body, thank you very much. < 1379623898 849739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Akagi DS" game includes a mode for Washizu mahjong and I play that game. < 1379623913 44287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is mahjong yet on the Ouya... < 1379623996 83905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are allowed to look at your partner's tiles, and communication with them freely, and oka and uma does count. < 1379624017 558614 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: there was that collecte organised by héma-québec at the cégep one time. I went by and was like: “Hey, I should try that. I got two hours to kill”. bad idea. < 1379624020 682942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The uma really does add another aspect to Washizu mahjong.) < 1379624036 79092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you die? D: < 1379624048 793633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it felt like dying, but I don't think so. < 1379624095 708947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I was fine up to the point where I was pierced and plugged to the machine. a few seconds later, reboot. < 1379624112 179157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually the leaders are in first and second place, but I have once won with Washizu in last place, giving me a lot of uma bonus. < 1379624128 447002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's the Great Puddle? < 1379624129 543908 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wake up shaking, shivering, sweating, your hands are prickly, you are hungry, you are nauseous, you want to pee... < 1379624135 385616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the Atlantic Ocean. < 1379624142 263584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the Authentic Ocean < 1379624155 682912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uma is nasty and perverse :p < 1379624195 506635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In an ordinary game with four players playing by themself, yes, but in Washizu mahjong with the team format it uses, I like it. < 1379624257 759961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: also, my blood pressure was unstable, and my heart was beating some eldritch morse message. < 1379624273 793887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think you will find that zzo38s in the mirror are closer than they appear. < 1379624290 93047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, you should know that already, having read the quotes < 1379624303 883245 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sounds like a party to me < 1379624316 51285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are you good at morse code? < 1379624328 320850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right. I just assume that people are in Hexham by default, and forgot that zzo38 is from BC. < 1379624336 906723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry about that. < 1379624339 348565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good default. < 1379624344 687772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uhm, somewhat. < 1379624406 618427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: maybe I should become a Super Serial Killer, with my secret weakness being my own blood. < 1379624464 635317 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: zzo38's user page on Wikipedia would tell you that much < 1379624464 780527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... .- ... - ..- .-. .... .- ... - ..- .-. .... .- ... - ..- .-. < 1379624467 344848 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And much, much more < 1379624468 343480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have no powers while you're alive? < 1379624472 143128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that sounds sweet < 1379624514 193884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Akagi DS game, after each hanchan, oka and uma are counted, and then you compare the final scores of the leader of both teams; however has less, loses however many hit-points is the differences. < 1379624517 102685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice try :p < 1379624536 900571 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yowch. < 1379624565 94549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The scores of the supporters are not used, except to calculate oka and uma.) < 1379624630 511202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any time during the game that one leader pays the other, the payer also loses that number of hit-points, too. < 1379624679 120497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... . -..- - ..- .-. < 1379624686 793932 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1379624723 295317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winning off of the last card seems to be much more common in Washizu mahjong, than in the ordinary game. < 1379624787 739060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what kind of map of the Underground do you have, and what do you use it for? < 1379624823 247986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Currently, I do not use it for anything. Someone who was there had it when coming back to Canada, and since he didn't need it anymore he gave it to me. < 1379624870 79916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I can't remember any occurence of haitei happening in any game I played. < 1379624908 295036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Except in Washizu mahjong, it hasn't happened to me either. < 1379625035 325995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1379625058 631384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's a nice map, don't you think < 1379625072 396721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1379625091 364646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad the Circle line isn't a circle anymore :( < 1379625145 879610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it stops at Edgware Road twice, which is confusing < 1379625168 104214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two stations named Edgware Road and the Circle Line stops at one of them twice and the other not at all < 1379625194 496023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're getting the "drop [as in, raindrop] line", it has this shape: http://portal.liikennevirasto.fi/portal/page/portal/f/hankkeet/suunnitteilla/pisara/pisara_kartta_0.jpg < 1379625211 989086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, the NYC subway system has like 50 station names that are reused < 1379625228 926110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: heh < 1379625273 583360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's just called "Helsinki City Rail Loop" in English, but the Finnish name refers to a teardrop shape. < 1379625282 5919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ippatsu is usually played to not count toward the han requirement to win (in Akagi DS it is like this); I prefer that it does count, unless the discarder is on the same team in which case it still scores but doesn't count toward requirement. < 1379625309 322621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah neat < 1379625371 332338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :running the commuter trains in a loop through the city center, to free up capacity at the main terminal for long distance trains < 1379625383 621972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ippatsu depends on a riichi anyway. in washizu you can ippatsu without that? < 1379625449 960555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, I mean when you need 2 han to win if the oya wins five times < 1379625465 339328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there should be a high speed rail tunnel to Tallinn, don't you think < 1379625514 73936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh. right. good catch, here. < 1379625688 54888 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote bathroom interior < 1379625689 868896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :887) GreyKnight: for instance, you can form a poset category from a bunch of tiles oh, that's why somebody was conflating category theory with bathroom interior design the other day :-D < 1379625711 776600 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think Wang Tiles would look good in a bathroom < 1379625719 585948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I do think that. (I also think people have made plans for it, but that's about all.) < 1379625887 972517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: some day, we'll have a nice train from Québec City up to Windsor... < 1379625923 210336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.euregio-heltal.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Hel-Tal-rail-connection-prefeasibility-study_ETI-ASIC_110708.doc-NeoOffice-Writer.pdf and so on. < 1379626044 511752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: *sound of a turtle flying in a storm* < 1379626049 705626 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379626149 18783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boat is pretty nice though < 1379626153 788209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly it might matter more for freight < 1379626176 626621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also the general "there should be more trains" principle. < 1379626181 759028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379626190 110845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If it's empty, fill it with trains," as the saying goes. < 1379626212 786803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My wife's brother 3D-printed a train at the library the other day. < 1379626215 422829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that document doesn't say much about the gauge issue < 1379626223 974536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! they have 3D printers at the library? < 1379626249 573260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in any sort of generally-available-in-many-places way, just in the one at Tapiola and perhaps a couple of other places. < 1379626257 703084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1379626265 410598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have one at work, but I haven't used it yet < 1379626292 317930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT < 1379626302 36698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooo < 1379626306 536440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also costs zero moneys at Tapiola, I believe. < 1379626316 850662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're so slow the material costs aren't that high. :p < 1379626335 989796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379626339 948802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rail Baltica will be standard gauge < 1379626351 348235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will / would < 1379626371 732473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a MiniFactory v2.0 -- http://www.minifactory.fi/en/ -- that's some sort of Finnish product.) < 1379626428 577752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1379626448 74451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is briefly confused by a country labeled "Somija" on a map of the Baltic region < 1379626526 734669 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379626575 615248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the "Glass Palace" (there's not all that much glass in it, but that's what it's called) right in the city centre has this placed called "meeting place" administered by the Helsinki regional library system, that's the other place they've got 3D printers (another miniFactory and an Ultimaker) in. Seems that a single 3D "printout" costs 0.40 EUR -- the same as a regular paper printout -- there. < 1379626606 284219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've heard, the machines at Tapiola are rather regularly broken. 3D printing doesn't quite seem to have matured all the way yet. < 1379626644 397568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On the other hand, regular printers still paper jam all the time too, so... But it's usually less of a mess to unjam.) < 1379626647 227999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1379626659 287548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how often the really expensive professional grade printers break < 1379626662 381067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably still a fair bit < 1379626670 79981 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379627046 945276 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379628469 814345 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379628629 747608 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379629539 700836 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379629560 698421 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379629710 622111 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379629863 241682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART :#esoteric < 1379630796 841153 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN, uh, REDDIT: http://www.reddit.com/r/EDC < 1379630843 776333 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379630845 383539 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :searches "/F/", finds no hits < 1379630853 706944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379630861 715959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379630903 881168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/F/? < 1379630915 652767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379630932 577203 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, people are identifying themselves with 22/M/Canada and so on < 1379630968 983174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sfw? < 1379630970 388923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379630972 594416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379630986 539082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDC stands for 'everyday carry' < 1379630997 413925 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :23/m/mo, asl? < 1379631010 347921 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously most of them carry knives < 1379631043 960604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, this is distinct from the porn reddit convention of putting [m] or [f] etc in the title < 1379631051 751110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... not like I would have any way of knowing about that < 1379631066 909702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an F on the second page! she does not carry a knife < 1379631110 905123 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have every confidence that kmc does not know about porn. < 1379631124 387100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? porn < 1379631126 588998 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :porn? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379631127 23596 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379631127 186136 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1379631172 483896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? porn e2 to e4 < 1379631174 689457 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :porn e2 to e4? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379631175 185351 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1379631175 350124 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  º¯`\o < 1379631177 742439 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn porn e2 to e4 < 1379631182 487294 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379631204 342179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/kEwEVfE.jpg < 1379631226 608737 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too, redditor < 1379631237 826046 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only leave the house with... god that is one stubby revolver < 1379631251 81537 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you supposed to like punch people with it < 1379631262 486956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i checked the comments; the people asking "why the fuck do you need four knives, a gun and two dozen bullets" are all downvoted < 1379631268 324756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Akagi did once make a haitei on purpose (in a game that isn't Washizu mahjong, and isn't teams), and being the only yaku. < 1379631281 33153 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, you use it to hammer the knives in < 1379631298 946554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: haha wow, link to the comments? < 1379631301 581717 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you run out of ammo with your first knife you have to use the second < 1379631303 549157 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flawless plan < 1379631307 722417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/1mji11/21m_microholic/ < 1379631324 230849 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :put the bullets on the knifes then the knifes in the gun < 1379631356 678649 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :put the knives on the bullets and shoot knives < 1379631366 217364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not trying to hate but what is your purpose for each knife? Is one for cutting tape/boxes, another for defense? How do you carry them (pockets using clip, sheath on belt, in a backpack)?" "I use any of em for the job at hand" < 1379631376 996132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure this guy is a professional killer. < 1379631390 417214 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah he uses hunt and peck typing but REALLY hunts < 1379631392 709788 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well suppose he's cutting something and one of the knives gets stuck < 1379631430 557304 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :catastrophic < 1379631438 20753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I like options and having several knives gives me options." < 1379631450 154550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he could sound more ominous if he tried < 1379631461 78663 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :several knife related options < 1379631466 639401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An don't get into the whole switchblades are illegal thing. They aren't where I live and if they were I honestly don't care." < 1379631481 779852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your average idiot just shrugs at this point and, at best, goes home to get another knife and gets shanked along the way after he uses all his bullets on the thirty-odd muggers coming at him < 1379631517 342424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit is scary < 1379631528 433972 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the FAQ only has one question and the question is "Why are you carrying a gun/knife/etc?" < 1379631545 642044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want more than five shots available to me." < 1379631642 722404 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: someone who needs lots of shots, maybe it's a bartender? < 1379631669 307476 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just shoots all his patrons < 1379631689 158839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"two shots and four knives, please" < 1379631693 37297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 years later "oh shit was THAT what they were asking for?" < 1379631738 715465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And the reason I don't always carry te glock is because I'm a smaller guy and the glock is a little big." < 1379631764 700094 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does he carry both guns when he feels like having it along or does he at least leave the revolver behind < 1379631775 383728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably both, more options? < 1379631795 547556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He should get a gun that shoots smaller guns. < 1379631820 23809 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a portable 3d printer loaded with gun templates < 1379631836 973593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Security in this office park is a joke. Last year, I came to work with my spud gun in a duffel bag. I sat at my desk all day, with a rifle that shoots potatoes at 60 pounds per square inch. Can you imagine if I was deranged?" < 1379631885 578087 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to google to make sure that wasn't a serious gun control analogy < 1379632024 154012 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some nut with a gun complaining about nuts with guns getting into his office? < 1379632040 948378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoes, not nuts < 1379632230 929632 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wow this was the second submission after: http://i.imgur.com/aHZklek.jpg < 1379632280 636068 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if i'm going to carry things they'd better either be for killing people, or finding more people to kill" < 1379632522 467343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that knife connected with some string to another knife? < 1379632552 418298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need a lot of guns to kill people? Isn't one sufficient? < 1379632560 553217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379632561 944992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1379632563 321760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need to find people to kill anyways? < 1379632590 505710 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second knife is there to cut the first knife free from it < 1379632620 919034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking knife-chucks. < 1379632677 996267 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can garotte an unaware mugger whilst also stabbing him in two different places < 1379632883 686814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/1mjrh6/remember_that_kickstarter_for_pens_that_was/ < 1379632891 959327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god is this one of those pens we were mocking < 1379632957 400263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does look like a vibrator < 1379632989 255018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It feels... just so good, you guys." < 1379632991 266971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointing that it isn't actually one, really < 1379632993 35978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it does. < 1379633038 95550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It feels "airtight" and "well-machined" too, if you catch my drift. < 1379633040 51920 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still can't believe they don't realise they're not even paying for a pen, they're paying for an aluminium cylinder with a hole in one end < 1379633064 876898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: could be trouble < 1379633379 642688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/1mfa5p/help_me_figure_out_how_to_carry_some_combination/ < 1379633409 308501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can think of one big redundancy you could cut back on < 1379633494 894870 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379633527 526285 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"get rid of the car and phone and you can pack two or three more knives in your pockets" < 1379633550 198742 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379633556 850012 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and get a combination knife/lighter < 1379633941 198490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379634085 890478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut a hole in some suitable part of your flesh, put a knife in it < 1379634137 103251 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some fucker tries to stab you? they have simply upped your knife count < 1379634165 243286 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lifehack < 1379634815 255400 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379634973 378481 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/stop-using-nsa-influence-code-in-our-product-rsa-tells-customers/ o_O < 1379634980 988003 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSA was using DUAL_EC_DBRG @_@ < 1379635017 27504 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, is "everyone using dual_ec_dbrg" going to turn out to match "list of companies that were ordered around by the NSA" -_- < 1379635071 962684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna hear a joke? < 1379635074 791818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :america < 1379635154 34445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought rsa was just the algorithm < 1379635186 359686 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what's "rsa" mean here