< 1379895484 791872 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol < 1379895495 894353 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :genuinely curious how people explain things like that < 1379895505 554438 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boredom or libertarianism < 1379895506 127779 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have plenty of explanations I'd propose, but am still wondering < 1379895616 638687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the question "why do libertarians tend to be well-off white dudes" cause I don't think that one is very difficult to explain < 1379895730 812980 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379895745 622054 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379895807 846161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of futarchy, copumpkin < 1379895838 162760 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtlqeswmunzicsed QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379895846 232698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that some sort of japanese thing < 1379895900 311341 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: seems interesting < 1379895900 877124 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's something something prediction markets < 1379895918 458294 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to put my finger on a concern though, or read more and find it's handled :P < 1379896019 745824 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fabiensanglard.net/rayTracing_back_of_business_card/ wat < 1379896046 924746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of voting on policies, you vote to determine a social utility function, and then use prediction markets to pursue policies which maximize that utility function < 1379896057 821196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much more than that summary, but it's a cool idea anyway < 1379896123 690063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, can you not just print it really small < 1379896144 451483 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point of a business card you can't read! < 1379896153 110687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool 'cause it uses the ability of markets to optimize stuff, but without the libertarian assumption that what markets optimize 'by default' is fair or good < 1379896182 656095 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :my concern is that it isn't just gov't that could affect the things being bet on < 1379896192 317945 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could create perverse private incentives to make programs fail < 1379896231 569650 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this page calls typedef "define" and a struct a class. okay, then < 1379896271 561490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, !v for normalization < 1379896315 994480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well struct and class are nearly the same in C++ < 1379896339 137592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only difference is that structs have public visibility by default, while class has private visibility < 1379896351 253905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i didn't think you could have inheritance with structs < 1379896360 515287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the author used 'struct{' because it's shorter than 'class{public:' < 1379896372 860047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, you can do all the same things < 1379896435 121530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: true < 1379896498 774137 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: This also means that class{public: ... } is just a struct. :) < 1379896519 691717 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming no methods. < 1379896560 70715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has this separate concept of "Plain Old Data" for things that are like C structs, but they can still have (non-virtual) methods < 1379896616 353609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably a lot of C structs are not Plain Old Data either, it's just that the language provides no way to express this < 1379896754 237803 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379896765 854403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example you might say that it should be safe and reasonable to clone a POD object with a simple memcpy(), which does not hold for many C structs < 1379896796 693866 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what? < 1379896800 562330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that's part of the generally used definitions of POD, though < 1379896848 18563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: say your struct contains a pointer to a reference-counted object < 1379896862 755564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to increment the refcount when you copy the struct and hence the pointer < 1379896929 250054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ you would express this by using a smart pointer (like std::shared_ptr) for the field, which will make the struct non-POD < 1379896935 390774 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so like, semantics < 1379896951 646510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the neat thing is that the default constructor and destructor in C++ will still do the right thing < 1379896961 780191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason i thought not being able to memcpy at all < 1379896982 974887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379897027 580093 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i am bad at c++ < 1379897044 471964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is so cool < 1379897114 334094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ugly and archaic and it's complex to the point of being nearly unusable, but everything does fit together and exist for a reason < 1379897125 500277 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my favorite esolang. < 1379897128 754645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379897135 903204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did you get that meme from me?) < 1379897139 527676 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: money is just too powerful! :P < 1379897151 987991 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably, but the sentiment was just too good to leave to one man) < 1379897172 179220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1379897176 311401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :memes want to spread < 1379897213 557961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might try to design an esolang with region pointers, once I learn how the hell they work < 1379897227 548631 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379897235 276370 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :region pointers? < 1379897273 727873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust's "borrowed pointers" have a "region" or "lifetime" attached which says how long the pointer is guaranteed to remain valid < 1379897280 320940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's part of the type < 1379897300 649303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually inferred, but you can name them if you want, which means you can return these things as well as take them as arguments < 1379897343 749585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct Foo { x: int } fn f<'t>(foo: &'t Foo) -> &'t int { &foo.x } < 1379897356 836882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes a pointer to a Foo, returns a pointer to the int inside, which is valid as long as the original pointer was < 1379897374 452755 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1379897386 181644 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm with you re: not knowing how the hell they work < 1379897398 552795 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust <3 < 1379897434 569477 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379897439 994356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since they're like type parameters you can also parametrize data over them, e.g. to make a vector iterator which is parametrized over how long the original vector lives < 1379897554 443020 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds pretty serious for an esolang, though < 1379897583 177288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Rust they also track mutability; if you have a borrowed pointer of the immutable sort, you know that nobody else can mutate the object while you're using it through that pointer < 1379897613 482455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aliasing rules are strict enough to guarantee that < 1379897653 592403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so if you borrow a mutable thing as immutable, the compiler will "freeze" it for the duration of the borrow, which is a static typechecker thing except for garbage-collected stuff, which needs to be frozen dynamically < 1379897694 298936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well it might be an esolang or it might just be a toy language for my understanding < 1379897702 612267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on whether it can be made interestingly perverse < 1379897713 726894 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Region-C or Region-fuck. < 1379897718 622658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example what if the only data you have is region pointers, and you need to do basic arithmetic using regions somehow < 1379897728 10854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough about it to say whether that is a coherent idea < 1379897733 834376 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how do you distinguish between eso and toy? < 1379897762 700468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs are designed to be interestingly weird and difficult to use < 1379897773 763379 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379897779 618212 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... where is J? < 1379897788 108738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't consider Brainfuck to be a "true esolang" because although it's very minimal, and hard to use for that reason, the concepts it uses are straightforward and familiar < 1379897801 238538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was designed not to be difficult but to have a very simple compiler < 1379897828 786321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that definition of esolang is way too restrictive IMO < 1379897830 744066 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J isn't supposed to be difficult to use. < 1379897859 182686 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if APL counts as weird in context. I mean, A Programming Language didn't have a whole lot of competition. < 1379897864 509000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379897867 52207 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention, Brainfuck is fairly easy to target. < 1379897925 999415 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should write an article on the wiki on Chaitin's "lisp-with-apl-character-set" bullshit and that can be my first article. < 1379897951 267095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the whole compiling to diophantine equations thing is pretty esoteric. < 1379897968 537390 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell? < 1379897980 145086 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1379898072 839055 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should anybody wants to ADD apl character set to something? < 1379898092 133771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not added. There aren't alphanumeric characters. Or multi-character identifiers. < 1379898100 725444 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hope this helps) < 1379898146 478597 :augur_!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379898147 643673 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should rewatch the ending of season two of ATLA < 1379898147 895100 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379898477 777287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379898971 906182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that < 1379899955 838572 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379900016 547339 :augur_!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net NICK :augur < 1379900261 153499 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379900586 238386 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379901215 616643 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379901550 595635 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o/'`\o_ < 1379901550 781922 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |    | < 1379901550 927481 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<   /`\ < 1379901588 763355 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that right one looks like he got a boner < 1379901597 829549 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's raising his dongers < 1379901639 617655 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people on efnet used to hate on me because they thought i was you btw. just sayin :) < 1379901652 389252 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1379901658 281309 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never was on efnet < 1379901669 73835 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be one of the nets with another myname < 1379901669 644261 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, must be a different person with the same nick then < 1379901688 102444 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am surprised i got it here tbh < 1379901700 815490 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other myname was a script kiddie, at least at one point < 1379901712 222818 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1379901715 349056 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi, please turn off the `? stick figure < 1379901722 491026 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1379901726 45944 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1379901754 321184 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego has been kicked for now, but you know the one i mean < 1379901754 788039 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: either way, this is gonna get confusing, hahaha < 1379901761 866352 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't, actually < 1379901765 705417 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what was bound to `? < 1379901772 194602 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379901772 547705 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1379901772 695392 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1379901777 876662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one. < 1379901822 477491 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, you mean the whole script? or just that smiley < 1379901833 903288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that smiley < 1379901843 97749 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that? < 1379902285 92786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it triggers whenever hackego turns up a blank in the wisdom db, and triples the line count < 1379902647 368816 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtlqeswmunzicsed JOIN :#esoteric < 1379902820 748454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379902854 732813 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a hackego problem to me :P i can block that line or something if you like < 1379902873 97180 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379902906 96807 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379902906 286280 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    | < 1379902906 286364 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  º¯`\o < 1379902985 909504 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i see < 1379902993 671416 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what hackego is supposed to do in most cases :P < 1379903037 129446 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69\o/ \o/ < 1379903053 325190 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make any line ignored by leading it with ^k69^o < 1379903062 949115 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what it's worth < 1379903130 355101 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, anywhere in the line now. should be simple enough to tack on the end or something for specific cases < 1379903141 88725 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/69 < 1379903196 20431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the typical solution to block HackEgo from your bot < 1379903213 904515 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would, but people store things in it that are intended to trigger my thing too < 1379903229 3543 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ignore thing was already there, i use it for other stuff < 1379903314 936378 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1379903333 16505 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix YOUR bot, dick. < 1379903337 84913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PART :#esoteric < 1379903343 569439 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :har. < 1379903406 446772 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my solutions are: ignore hackego entirely (undesirable), disable that specific smiley (undesirable), write code to ignore that specific line (undesirable), disable entirely (undesirable) < 1379903426 729886 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared with essentially saying 'i explicitly don't want this particular smiley to trigger the thing' < 1379903447 534173 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first is desirable. < 1379903459 109283 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then < 1379903460 912825 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if anybody WANTS your bot to respond to HackEgo, it is THEY who are undesirable. < 1379903465 746723 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379903469 820651 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about things like `celebrate < 1379903482 771136 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just the `? deal < 1379903492 942715 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stand by my previous statement. < 1379903496 709578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1379903566 373815 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \o/ < 1379903573 672361 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly mirc < 1379903625 488988 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aoeu < 1379903627 396401 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :aoeu? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379903642 999891 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :all set \o/ < 1379903643 162493 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         | < 1379903643 308456 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         >\ < 1379903993 804560 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen < 1379904850 163616 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379905142 866025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fights the urge to pick fights with Haskell zealots on Twitter, which is still more sensible than copumpkin picking fights with libertarians < 1379905150 698317 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379905163 379572 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskelliots < 1379905178 413964 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't really get kmc's anti-haskell-community revelation < 1379905200 223923 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are zealots but just avoid them and take all the good, smart people who spend all their time learning about cool new stuff < 1379905205 435287 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not frothing at the mouth :P < 1379905214 645057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I found it very hard to avoid them in #haskell < 1379905231 691168 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-lens is quite pleasant < 1379905233 715265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there are other outposts of "Haskell community" which are better < 1379905255 668215 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposedly about lenses < 1379905263 496440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize it's actually #haskell-edwardk < 1379905265 67241 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but has ended up being just a friendly place to talk about cool stuff < 1379905266 9112 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379905269 135095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did join a while back < 1379905269 874285 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everyone else uses it < 1379905275 34800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but left when my client restarted or something ;P < 1379905281 910819 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hasn't been around much recently < 1379905295 208936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my specific complaint lately is "Rust doesn't have higher-order polymorphism? well it must be shit and I will repeat that opinion forever without bothering to learn anything else about it" < 1379905302 339050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if I would get that attitude in -lens or not < 1379905318 39737 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it, but shachaf is around more than I am < 1379905319 199051 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379905329 995249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I don't want higher-order polymorphism in Rust... < 1379905354 707610 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the haskellers I respect have stated that they find rust interesting and would probably use it for systems code < 1379905362 712930 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the others haven't said anything much about it :P < 1379905365 343610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1379905386 663014 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep in mind that there's about 1 person in that group, and that's me < 1379905389 346089 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1379905390 544834 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1379905396 489270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ;P < 1379905409 756152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool if some of the many Haskell libraries that include C code could switch to Rust < 1379905415 291589 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379905424 171774 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd just need some support in cabal for building rust code < 1379905424 345450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would be cool to have a high level FFI between the languages, e.g. something which preserves algebraic types and memory management < 1379905426 891208 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd love that < 1379905429 488169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379905446 154000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something I'd vaguely like to work on, but I'm probably too lazy to do anything more than a proof of concept < 1379905451 740746 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many high level FFIs even exist? < 1379905452 672363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rustc is such a moving target too < 1379905453 34938 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the feeling :) < 1379905460 835136 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have a fixed calling convention? < 1379905462 565221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may not be worth Cabal trying to sync up with it at present < 1379905468 775351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're only just getting rustpkg off the ground < 1379905492 738108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how fixed the Rust calling convention is, but you can also call in and out of Rust with the C calling convention < 1379905502 864136 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379905514 138068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Rust structs are defined to be C compatible < 1379905520 281056 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in unrelated news, i just learned a proper use of subgraph isomorphis. gotta get cracking on that eodermdrome interpreter now. < 1379905526 968872 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you on the rust team? < 1379905532 110705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no need for C glue or "find the offset of everything" preprocessors a la hsc2hs < 1379905546 59175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I'm working on Servo, which is the ~only big project in Rust besides rustc itself < 1379905549 644424 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379905556 34610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :D < 1379905594 152807 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"or put another way, there are already eodermdrome interpreters running in the chemistry department" < 1379905603 56230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379905605 777369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so which application is this? < 1379905642 589317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well RPC mechanisms which allow nested key-value structures as values are pretty common < 1379905643 704026 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :big molecules are, unsurprisingly, represented as graphs. chemists sometimes want to search for submolecules. < 1379905647 15195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could consider that a high level FFI < 1379905679 49422 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says it's a "common misconception" that it just does regex search on a linearized form, though. i shudder for chemoinformaticians < 1379905917 549649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: writing rustc in Rust is kind of questionable... on the other hand, writing the Rust runtime system in Rust is fucking awesome < 1379905933 804064 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet :) < 1379905935 975809 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's Servo? < 1379905952 372483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new web layout / rendering engine with an emphasis on parallelism < 1379905961 783520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/servo < 1379905984 225157 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1379905986 998694 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that < 1379906081 977737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also an emphasis on security through memory safety, eventually, but it's kind of a joke to claim that at the moment < 1379906095 842060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we use C libraries for a bunch of stuff, and lots of unsafe Rust code for various other reasons < 1379906102 81046 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379906134 782065 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part of servo do you work on? < 1379906153 806682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever needs doing; it's a small team < 1379906159 620391 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379906186 35650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually most of the commits to date are from Rust people; having a separate team for Servo is a new thing < 1379906189 255799 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you have a full html parser in rust? < 1379906190 10249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course we still work together closely < 1379906198 261734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's one of the things we're using a C library for at present < 1379906200 965833 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379906228 808250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML / CSS parsing, image decoding, JavaScript are all in C < 1379906247 215029 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379906248 880762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we would like for it to all be Rust but the priority varies by component < 1379906266 941552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example we'd like to replace the CSS parser soon because it performs poorly (or rather, the CSS selector matching part of the library does) < 1379906283 85240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we'd like to replace image decoding soonish for security + robustness < 1379906300 25970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if an image decode fails within Rust code, we can easily catch that with the usual Rust task failure mechanisms and recover) < 1379906301 247915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what HTML parser do you use? < 1379906308 689307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hubbub < 1379906312 60104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379906319 178401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started working on Haskell bindings to hubbub years ago. I forget why. I gave up. < 1379906329 668136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's doubtful that we will ever replace SpiderMonkey with a production quality JavaScript engine in Rust < 1379906355 195026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause that's an incredible amount of work, plus the security benefits are murkier < 1379906481 627832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to do something about the fact that new versions of SpiderMonkey have only a C++ API and not a C API :( < 1379906616 159255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust more than most languages could support a "first-class" C++ FFI, but it would still be a huge pain < 1379906655 737737 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes an FFI "first-class"? < 1379906715 145073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in this case I mean that we can map many C++ features to directly analogous Rust features, while most languages can't because they don't have any analogous feature < 1379906761 633542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if your C++ API uses RAII then it's hard to map it directly to most languages, but plausible that we could do this for Rust < 1379906769 14109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1379906773 448894 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the C++ spidermonkey API use C++y features? < 1379906784 584497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm told it does use RAII at least; I haven't looked into it < 1379906789 896847 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII is running code when a variable goes out of scope? < 1379906799 210556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounds like our job would be harder than just "auto-generate an extern "C" for each of these prototypes" < 1379906818 378586 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, hmm, guess not < 1379906831 486075 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it use exceptions? like. what happens if initialization fails < 1379906839 498271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the RAII idea is implemented by running code when an object is destroyed (which could happen by a variable going out of scope, yes) < 1379906842 740981 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I'm thinking is that in Tcl, you can have code run when a variable is unset, which includes if it goes out of scope < 1379906901 991861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the core idea is that having some object represents that you've acquired some resource (e.g. opened a file or taken a lock) < 1379906927 357792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mutex m; { Lock l = m.lock(); ... } < 1379906943 558942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to call any unlock() method because it will happen automatically when you leave that scope, even if you leave due to an exception < 1379906967 968450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or by invoking 'return' deep inside some branching control flow) < 1379906993 165463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in this instance it's similar to Python's 'with' statement and other stuff in a lot of languages < 1379907029 690537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's more general because the object representing the acquired resource doesn't *have to* live on the stack with lifetime synced to a single function call < 1379907048 327106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can put that Lock in a heap allocated object < 1379907060 10110 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be doable in Tcl I think. And Tcl doesn't have automatic GC, although with most OO systems for Tcl including TclOO, you can specify destructors < 1379907076 617659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you want to refcount the retention of the lock, put it in a std::shared_ptr < 1379907080 57532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1379907080 680256 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, by 'most' I mean, I'm only certain about TclOO < 1379907088 104169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does Tcl free storage if not GC? < 1379907100 163207 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reference counting. < 1379907104 987017 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, strings are GCed, sorry about that < 1379907106 816732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379907109 821697 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, reference counted. < 1379907115 539396 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl's native value type, being strings, cannot be circularly referenced. < 1379907118 701082 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anything mutable (variables, namespaces) aren't GCed < 1379907129 791766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379907164 749262 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and strings are immutable < 1379907197 176204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it might be possible to map RAII nicely into refcounted systems with destructors < 1379907202 682420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't thought about it < 1379907245 553579 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of gc'd systems provide some kind of hook to call when something is destroyed < 1379907256 912617 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a bad idea to use it for raii, though < 1379907258 190309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but if it's true GC, that doesn't happen at any particular time < 1379907260 545362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379907276 52176 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it might just not happen at all sooooo < 1379907301 385248 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that destructors are not called in all situations (e.g. if the interpreter is destroyed)" < 1379907324 640279 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1379907333 851413 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379907356 502807 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should note that in Tcl, 'interpreter' is not synonymous with 'running program' < 1379907365 102976 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not as lolzy as it sounds < 1379907371 815740 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still something sigkillable < 1379907387 899430 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Tcl program can invoke sub-interpreters < 1379907391 246847 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And control them < 1379907414 588685 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's how Tcl does threads < 1379908589 112617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379908639 998480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? < 1379908693 430965 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379909018 368730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to frame you < 1379909143 163947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For what? < 1379909197 175539 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong sense of "frame" < 1379909250 642716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter what sense, it doesn't answer, what? < 1379909276 79478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this sense "for" is meaningless. < 1379909300 888395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, why do you want to? < 1379909318 68697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's a great question. < 1379909449 599290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yours isn't a very good question. < 1379909503 472624 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1379911163 249311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numerology stuff is as silly as, if you had a computer program that calculates the MD5 hash of the current date/time and treats it as a machine code address and jumps to it. Isn't it? < 1379911196 160563 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1379911239 700611 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe this comparison can even be used to make a idea to make a esolang) < 1379911487 158488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a better kind of comparison (if there is one)? < 1379911552 110652 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need a comparison because one time i saw a book about how santa was satan and was going to end the world, and it wasn't a joke < 1379911606 617048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes some people do stupid things like that < 1379912022 221980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certainly stupid but it doesn't seem to have a lot to do with numerology. < 1379912152 212571 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh it was all based on numerology. s+a+n+t+a added up to 666 or whatever. < 1379912192 377739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, of course anagrams do too, then. < 1379912238 1886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, so can things other than anagrams. Anagrams are one class of words that do.) < 1379912487 753888 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-119-73.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379912584 358107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :These and other divinations can be described by two things: artificial correspondences, and the improper use of these correspondences. < 1379912603 760208 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379912912 305440 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379913350 625907 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379915777 443343 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Be careful with this message. Similar messages were used to steal people's personal information. Unless you trust the sender, don't click links or reply with personal information. " < 1379915787 247404 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I trust FedEx *sends personal info* < 1379915795 975711 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that message should be reworded? < 1379915943 483690 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you shouldn't have sent them personal info :) < 1379915956 467775 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly that would depend on whether it really was fedex or not < 1379916141 935523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need the service from FedEx, then ignore the message and send it to FedEx using the telephone book or whatever instead of that message perhaps. < 1379916167 303512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not need the service from FedEx, then ignore the message and don't send your personal info. < 1379916597 154332 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-164-83.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379918064 364756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379918345 839012 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379918376 728422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379918399 180818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I sometimes get error about IRQ not less or equal? < 1379918412 190856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does sdIv:;aL{l*h?[?Q4-xiYf9QSi3U&7edDCVZ3z I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? < 1379945215 418449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1108) I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? < 1379945222 808616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone requested a framing. < 1379945370 788530 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quote is added, the PDF updated, the yerba mate dranked, but what has DST got to do with Wicca? < 1379945454 803748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is all part of the zzo38 mystery < 1379945458 41576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote mystery < 1379945460 106410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :367) as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw quintopia: I am at Canada. < 1379945486 417398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did i actually put a double space when i said that? < 1379945488 26603 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :Topic undergoing maintenance | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1379945503 869305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs I am at Canada < 1379945529 78546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a manifestation of QILDSR. < 1379945537 458214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379945540 540748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Quote Inter-Locutor Double-Spacing Reflex) < 1379945550 937831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1379945556 291422 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24462 < 1379945586 570427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed i didn't. < 1379945603 227633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '367s/ as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw quintopia: I am at Canada. < 1379945637 610843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spurrious mimic evolutionary double spacing, which means I probably misformated the quote... < 1379945822 225651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : anyone who sees that in the future will think it is two quotes < 1379945845 593424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia anyone who sees that in the future will think it is two quotes <-- WOW YOU WERE PSYCHIC < 1379945849 115464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379945893 711639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may have a bot absense number constancy situation. < 1379945930 145505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know where lambdie went? < 1379945930 330835 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you, with you standing around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca < 1379945939 281918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and then they will try to correct the spacing, and we must undo it < 1379945944 624202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I PSYCHIC TOO < 1379945986 836420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do I complain to if I want lambdabot back? < 1379946000 404129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott. < 1379946021 181222 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ↑ LAMBDABOT! NOW! please :) < 1379946081 585704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must regretfully point out that elliott has been idle for 8 hours. although may mean he'll wake up about now. < 1379946085 738317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+that < 1379946143 806666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime elliott < 1379946156 868238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms... < 1379946236 608709 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is in the UK, which uses DST, so he's on UTC+0100, which is 5 hours later than here, so it's around 3:22pm there. < 1379946323 42168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you appear to be making the mistake of assuming sane sleeping schedules for #esoteric regulars. < 1379946364 435286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: おはよう! I managed to red that!| < 1379946367 123683 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :read* < 1379946372 197633 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, yes, it happened! =D < 1379946431 402295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well. I know for a fact that Taneb has sleep issues, and that my own schedule is sane, so with that population sample it's 50/50 either way with elliott. < 1379946473 814128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: seems the Universe didn't collapse... < 1379946503 221147 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not so far, anyway. Which is good. < 1379946716 546237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hm this quote change happened at around the time i did a major formatting check on the quotes, so it quite possibly was my fault. < 1379946790 892775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the end result was inconsequential. I happen to have read the quote, and having that dangling verb there made no sense, so I figured it was a single quote. < 1379946806 40792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it was my fault. < 1379946809 736437 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, I did have parsing trouble with the django shenanigans. < 1379946812 501185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats himself -----### < 1379946819 536464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... that's a first! < 1379946820 558542 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Django daikasoku < 1379946830 565169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's incredibly intentional. < 1379946834 651118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no it's not. < 1379946856 256486 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: infâme et odieux personnage que tu es! how dare you earworm me on a Monday Morning! < 1379946879 819053 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puHyO5JNOE0 < 1379946881 310215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it... happened before? fascinating. < 1379946892 272078 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: won't click. < 1379946900 283852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a remix, really < 1379946907 835848 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, more of a mashup, I guess < 1379946908 803284 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least for the next hour. I'm einstein on the beaching my ears) < 1379946995 511342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i've been stupid before, you know. < 1379947043 896334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs swats himself < 1379947044 324946 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379947057 725993 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379947062 827784 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.600 < 1379947157 779403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs swats herself < 1379947163 399144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a pre-lengthening one. < 1379947176 32489 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19841 < 1379947223 656202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, on top of that, only male self-swatting. < 1379947245 112105 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something to be said about that somewhere, but I can't figure out what < 1379947270 56050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that can be explained by the fact we rarely have more than one active female in the channel. < 1379947282 613727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes none. < 1379947286 158489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“it's not the length of the swat that counts...” < 1379947427 454640 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I have sleep issues? < 1379947451 715611 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379947461 262987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spots an updog < 1379947479 759465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the updog must be defective. < 1379947479 905367 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947485 621750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: iircbpn, you talked about that stuff some months ago. < 1379947493 92808 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc but probably not) < 1379947507 413897 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck updog < 1379947507 559412 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947507 717987 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: a command line tool for getting weather forecasts - written in Ruby (Ruby). < 1379947530 601823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: you appear to be confusing updog with yourself < 1379947530 747105 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947537 954490 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad to know that Ruby needs to be explained by itself. < 1379947551 6621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ruby with haskell. < 1379947561 791546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :updog: or do you actually do weather forecasts? < 1379947561 937033 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947594 913840 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I think I just have a tendency to nap < 1379947603 276620 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not good at lie-ins < 1379947607 728365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait does that mean you're awake now. < 1379947637 352696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this updog is connected from somewhere around Buffaly, NY. < 1379947637 498412 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947650 389632 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ly/lo/ < 1379947707 108008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hm... i guess it isn't elliott, i don't think he'd bother with strange ip's. < 1379947745 330033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are the new yorkers in the channel that haven't relocated to san francisco. < 1379947774 674129 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot's asleep < 1379947782 363316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliot < 1379947785 362377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one was ever called Elliot. < 1379947790 221466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ^ < 1379947792 384424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is also aslep. < 1379947795 310195 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :asleep. < 1379947806 760909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well he might be waking up about now. < 1379947843 280688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Waiting for elliott | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1379947859 950028 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it helps I could cause a large explosion < 1379947872 374163 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? godot < 1379947874 558323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :godot? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379947898 622153 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "c.f. elliott" > wisdom/godot < 1379947902 112077 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379947911 364731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as recorded in the File, people from the East Coast are: jsvine, ... < 1379947917 304233 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. seems to be the only one. < 1379947924 987039 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "cf. elliott" > wisdom/godot < 1379947925 132946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! quintopia. < 1379947928 722612 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379947951 913115 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so yeah. quintopia is the Most Probable Updogger. < 1379947962 697087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures. < 1379947976 906026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always with the laughing matter that one < 1379948039 232874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : If it helps I could cause a large explosion <-- i'd like you to link afterward to the hexham newspaper where you explain why you did it. < 1379948078 398139 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: could you cause a pretty explosion, instead of a large one? < 1379948091 530960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but that might not wake up elliott! < 1379948128 673974 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I saw elliott, he made a mermaid out of me < 1379948130 210204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So meh < 1379948132 36865 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379948132 330130 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379948164 321067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: what exactly happened yesterday? were you connected and active on the Chännel during a Weekend? < 1379948181 260930 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, I think that was me < 1379948183 508711 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm always connected. < 1379948195 784257 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's updog? < 1379948195 966298 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379948196 928631 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, elliott turned me into a mermaid, you just made me realize it < 1379948207 244278 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379948211 328615 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1379948211 693681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop copying me updog < 1379948211 839100 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379948233 51419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you send things to gorham < 1379948270 586186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, I was busy with either my SO, or visiting Lachine at night and doing unspeakable things with another Unnämed Channel Member. < 1379948289 9633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: mind you, the cookies are bought, I just need to go to the post office. < 1379948317 128107 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am already at gorham < 1379948327 950880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting late... :( < 1379948331 665013 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to send to andover, me now < 1379948355 710037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you lend me your swatter, so that I can undergo penience for my sins? < 1379948369 858051 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lachine is best Chine < 1379948375 731150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh well. can you send me your new coördinates? < 1379948394 194698 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: swat boily for too much diaeresis < 1379948397 514393 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>doing unspeakable things with another Unnämed Channel Member < 1379948397 930101 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379948406 935400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @tell Buggy drivers, sometimes. The "official" answer is at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms854226.aspx <-- i don't think Buggy will understand that message. < 1379948411 574923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: he he he. < 1379948434 894817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Don't start any rumors now >_> < 1379948445 702354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/nien/nan/ < 1379948459 836397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: bin voyons dont. voir si je suis pour partir des rumeurs :D < 1379948477 289506 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/nan/nyan/g < 1379948500 780796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION helpfullÿ swäts boily -----### < 1379948535 117715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tack. < 1379948572 663698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjänare. < 1379948612 727907 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379948615 141572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it seems not to mean what i thought it meant. < 1379948675 364338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ingen orsak < 1379948762 831949 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: david rutter/general delivery/andover, me 04216 < 1379949051 40863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen there's also the single-register machine described at http://esolangs.org/wiki/Minsky_machine < 1379949076 768164 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noted. < 1379949084 676879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1379949125 58391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Laterally < 1379949137 355971 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379950001 601843 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1379950505 44211 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379950546 838104 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379950670 722404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379950754 648137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1379950770 721465 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did I mess that up? < 1379950784 678632 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT < 1379950798 6476 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan lambdabot is back. hth < 1379950798 152106 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379950807 459364 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 231500Z 30010KT 15SM BKN031 11/04 A3004 RMK CU6 SLP175 < 1379950807 604771 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNT 231520Z 11006KT 080V190 9999 FEW019 20/14 Q1022 < 1379950810 930175 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahhhhhhh < 1379950812 609661 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1379950913 809399 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one of those is the temperature < 1379951025 556241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you want the temperature? < 1379951067 736905 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's 20/14 < 1379951132 31143 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make sense, yeah < 1379951135 44430 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :11/04 < 1379951143 378441 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *is* cold-ish out there < 1379951149 578264 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gazes out the window < 1379951472 710774 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-145-219.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379951610 489780 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379952101 786339 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379952137 210680 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379952156 548860 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-145-219.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379952218 331421 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1379952230 878023 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379952650 935126 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah but that's not turing-complete is it < 1379953489 729256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1379953610 554082 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379955125 255917 :S1!d9fc958f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.149.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379955330 306032 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1379955378 945929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1379955379 335537 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 231650Z 02010KT 9999 -SHRA FEW011 BKN014 10/08 Q1001 BECMG SCT014 BKN030 < 1379955424 617351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BECMG" -- for people who can't afford vowels. < 1379955433 73627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, there's one.) < 1379955819 291273 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379956366 375833 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379956658 662925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and it's -SHRAing in Helsinki. < 1379956705 466478 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shra, eh < 1379957206 634582 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379957232 636482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's raining in Shanghai. (Disclaimer: it might not, this is a reference.) < 1379957246 70404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZSSS < 1379957247 298593 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZSSS 231700Z 15004MPS 9999 FEW013 26/23 Q1011 NOSIG < 1379957259 740059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sadly not. this is not a reference. hth. < 1379957272 917147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is an MPS?) < 1379957277 495017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck MPS < 1379957278 89648 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mps definition: meters per second. < 1379957280 595446 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1379957285 83220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. < 1379957295 583386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the local weather forecast says it will rain on Wednesday, that's close enough. < 1379957296 781518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd much prefer for it to be Miles per Second. more dramatic, imho. < 1379957408 812067 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moons/sec < 1379957459 494873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :megaluns per second! < 1379957526 977671 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :MegaParsecs/Second < 1379957529 124241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 miles/second -> km/hour < 1379957536 349481 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536) < 1379957557 577890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related news, Frink's interpretation of "km/h" was kind of curious. < 1379957560 941000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 miles/second -> km/h < 1379957568 518815 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Conformance error \ Left side is: 804672/125 (exactly 6437.376) m s^-1 (velocity) \ Right side is: 1.5091904506831453200e+36 m^-1 s kg^-1 (unknown unit type) \ Suggestion: divide left side by energy \ \ For help, type: units[energy] \ to list known units with these dimensions. < 1379957587 280975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kilometers per henry? < 1379957595 93503 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of curious things, I had that Most Wonderful Cola during lunch. < 1379957603 684893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The dead one? < 1379957617 592010 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I don't drink dead cola. < 1379957627 909188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that would match the henry, right. < 1379957628 274473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you drink alive cola, then? < 1379957632 100344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 megaparsec/second -> km/hour < 1379957639 887753 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: of course. only the freshest. < 1379957640 799152 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.4433757170802496930e+23 < 1379957652 288231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 miles/s -> km/hr < 1379957659 937305 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536) < 1379957674 651890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 mi/s -> km/hr < 1379957682 726745 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536) < 1379957683 299795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shorter and shorter. < 1379957688 683641 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 5 megalightyear/milisecond -> km/hr < 1379957689 877581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you golfing unit converstion? you freaks. < 1379957697 142230 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "milisecond". \ Warning: undefined symbol "milisecond". \ Unconvertable expression: \ 47303652362904000000000 m (length) milisecond (undefined symbol)^-1 -> 5/18 (approx. 0.2777777777777778) m s^-1 (velocity) < 1379957697 287653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/st/s/ < 1379957703 848137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 5 megalightyear/millisecond -> km/hr < 1379957712 123745 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :170293148506454400000000000 < 1379957726 356494 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow that sounds wrong < 1379957763 767466 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1 lightyear/year -> km/hr < 1379957771 712504 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0792759005937356714e+9 < 1379957789 439934 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it use scientific notation for this but not for that >_> < 1379957817 640458 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 mi/s -> km/h < 1379957821 522329 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1379957825 417645 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Conformance error \ Left side is: 804672/125 (exactly 6437.376) m s^-1 (velocity) \ Right side is: 1.5091904506831453200e+36 m^-1 s kg^-1 (unknown unit type) \ Suggestion: divide left side by energy \ \ For help, type: units[energy] \ to list known units with these dimensions. < 1379957831 486267 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: because 170293148506454400000000000 is the Not Quite Exactly Number of the Beast. < 1379957834 611009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 m/s -> km/hr < 1379957836 201668 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/frink: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `exactly' \ /hackenv/bin/frink: line 1: `14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536)' < 1379957882 646966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :何 < 1379957891 565340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 mi/s -> km/hr < 1379957893 851735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/frink < 1379957895 194694 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec /hackenv/lib/frink -e "$@" < 1379957899 389572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536) < 1379957927 158162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "dummy programs with Unicode in the name" thing is getting really old. < 1379957941 624872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its all unicode :< < 1379957946 46755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :u kno < 1379957950 323950 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck < 1379957962 846628 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... This is only the second time I've done it, elliott >_< < 1379958069 129848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you need to find something more... obscure. something that will slip past behind the Ever Examinating Elliott Eyes. < 1379958094 499385 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess don't really have anything on-topic to do here, anyway, so I can see how that could be annoying < 1379958097 42408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1379958100 972380 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, have a nice day < 1379958113 59222 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PART #esoteric :"Off I go!" < 1379958140 819966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo hi' > bin/`printf '\xcc\x8a'` && chmod +x bin/`printf '\xcc\x8a'` < 1379958145 516174 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379958153 501045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`̊ < 1379958154 896298 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1379958378 46130 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, outstanding < 1379958388 972516 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combining mark, yeah? < 1379958439 472801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMBINING RING ABOVE < 1379958444 806269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The insta-angel character. < 1379958611 105723 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379959193 968616 :myndzi\!~myndzi@50-194-51-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379959424 217576 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379959428 703370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1379959448 140093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, connect, you damn bot... < 1379959499 602116 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379959571 552037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know if there is a command line tool to mess with mount namespaces under Linux? < 1379959589 979118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean about a mount namespace? < 1379959621 87663 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mess with that stuff but I think I've stumbled upon the tool < 1379959627 701737 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that different programs can have different set of visible mount points right? Used for stuff like virtualization, but Android also uses it for security < 1379959632 208858 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hth) < 1379959640 737809 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, happen to remember the name? < 1379959643 607567 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379959648 400659 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379959666 665974 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZBBB < 1379959667 387191 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1379959670 649454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZUUU < 1379959671 118293 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZUUU 231800Z 00000MPS 4000 BR NSC 21/19 Q1013 NOSIG < 1379959691 701300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "unshare" is one tool that's slightly relevant. < 1379959694 810620 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1379959739 8134 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'm basically lookint to set up a unionfs on / (and other partitions as required) to do a checkinstall/fakeroot on stereoids < 1379959746 363830 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: something with mount --make-{share,slave,private}? < 1379959776 313176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unshare" runs a program with mount (or other) namespace privatized, so that whatever changes you do won't affect the parent. < 1379959805 29448 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, err what? Looking at it it looks potentially different, but I have no clue what that stuff is < 1379959822 617668 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that looks like it could work < 1379959832 570657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: result from a quick google search. I have no idea what it implies, but there's documentation on IBM.com and C code with PAM. < 1379959872 676604 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking the man page I'm confused < 1379959877 383106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The share/slave/private thing is fancy, but indeed slightly different. I've forgotten exactly how it worked, but it was relevant to what's visible from where through what bind mounts. < 1379959887 618261 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379959913 399781 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Apparently their firewall is blocking access to certain file types." the dav saga continues < 1379959962 287697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a kind of a thing where you can mount a tree in such a way that if you mount it with "shared" in one place, and as "slave" in others, then mount something else inside the master location, the slaves will see those same mounts. < 1379959982 599131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally you'd of course need to e.g. explicitly bind all new mounts you make inside the master. < 1379959989 732639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that Maemo uses that feature. < 1379959997 378383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Meego, or some other thing in that family. < 1379960009 957987 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1379960011 911166 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1379960013 963159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some mobile thing anyway. :p < 1379960085 688404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the Maegozen mess... < 1379960128 752582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's sort of related to mount namespaces in that there you could easily have a need for shared mounts in addition to private ones. < 1379960166 768918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some sort of a thing where you have per-login namespaces, and whan e.g. a user's sshfs mounts be visible in all sessions of that user. < 1379960177 91389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Man, modern things are so complicated.) < 1379960211 78033 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sshfs on my system is visible across the board from what I can see < 1379960227 87386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't think per-login namespaces are exactly commonplace. < 1379960228 438682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not usable by others unless you pass -o allow_root or some such flag < 1379960230 820483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you chain sshfses across multiple machines? < 1379960238 84830 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1379960238 765840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you sshfs mount something with default options then root "can't" access it, which is strange < 1379960255 580792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I know, which annoyed me a lot when doing rdiff-backup on my phone < 1379960261 452730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you mean sshfs mount a remote filesystem which has sshfs mounts? yes of course < 1379960264 496691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done it < 1379960281 795164 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to be slow though < 1379960286 290354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily < 1379960306 925224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite thing about Linux namespaces is the number of security holes created by allowing unprivileged users to create them < 1379960319 862811 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, unprivileged users can create them? heh < 1379960328 86364 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that could cause loads of issues < 1379960336 693116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I mean having an sshfs mount that tunnels through one or more machines to get to a distant one. < 1379960340 370254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a newish feature, don't know when it's enabled < 1379960347 366534 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard android 4.3 uses SElinux as well. < 1379960349 12748 :S1!d9fc958f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.149.143 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379960363 340312 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that whole namespace stuff sounds like something that should increase security, not create more holes < 1379960374 720714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: sure if it has no bugs < 1379960385 439594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a ton of new code which breaks a bunch of longstanding assumptions < 1379960406 823431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lwn.net/Articles/543273/ hey this looks like a cool article < 1379960407 803709 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should have unit tests and such... Hm, are there automated testing suits of any kind of the kernel? < 1379960421 46482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol you can't find security holes that way Vorpal < 1379960431 80721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have automated tests just to prevent security *regressions*, which do happen < 1379960431 235679 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing is for wimps. failures should be spectacular! < 1379960432 482255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but you can find bugs < 1379960434 240716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Incidentally, the clone thing from last night worked on the first try, after gdisk expert-mode fixing the disk-size and backup header fields. (Also bumped the Windows Experience Index score up by two points or something.) < 1379960435 929639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's nothing near a solution < 1379960487 939126 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nice, my desktop scores like 7.5-7.9 on everything but the disk, which caps the whole thing to 5.4 or some such < 1379960524 870027 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, funnily it is my SSD in my work laptop that caps it's score too to 6.8 or some such. That is an Intel 520 SSD < 1379960558 781860 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that it scores like 7.1-7.3 iirc < 1379960568 986367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Same here. I think I have 7.9 from all other categories (though it goes to 9.9 these days), except the disk was 5.x; now it's 7.1. (It's not the fastest possible SSD.) < 1379960608 340367 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1379960616 836124 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, 9.9 is Windows 8 I presume? < 1379960625 865905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's an 8 install. < 1379960632 352265 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379960643 542505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if 8.1 is going to bump those up even more. < 1379960646 328401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how terrible is it? < 1379960671 179368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep starting Chrome every now and then because it's at the left edge of the quick launch bar where a start window would be. :p < 1379960681 192300 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1379960689 275630 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, apart from that? Do you hate it? < 1379960722 98611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, honestly I don't really use it all that much. Certainly it works okay for basically running Steam. < 1379960729 121021 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1379960746 649619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've installed Emacs on it and whatnot, but I'm not entirely clear why I bothered. < 1379960783 399814 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1379960792 613217 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379960794 678051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear they're doing a steam os now < 1379960806 570848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steam OS? < 1379960808 444350 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1379960813 708844 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume it is a Linux distro? < 1379960823 143296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, when did they announce that? < 1379960834 604009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 8.1 is going to add a start menu and a straight-to-Desktop boot option, which I guess will make the UI more "usual". I'm not a real fan of the start screen. < 1379960838 201675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they've said but it's the only viable candidate < 1379960842 126963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, today < 1379960843 346332 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379960845 175096 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Imagine that, Valve decided that the "environment best suited" to Steam is one it owns and controls fully» < 1379960851 757657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379960927 665141 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck valve < 1379960928 528661 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valve definition: '''archaic''' a leaf of a folding or double door. < 1379960934 49227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nailed it < 1379960942 398533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hundreds of great games are already running natively on SteamOS. Watch for announcements in the coming weeks about all the AAA titles coming natively to SteamOS in 2014." < 1379960951 301178 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SteamOS combines the rock-solid architecture of Linux with a gaming experience built for the big screen." i guess that's straightforward < 1379960952 834248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, that, er, seems a bit hyperbolic what with the linux part < 1379960956 635055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 8.1's start menu isn't actually a menu. < 1379960960 706913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it just brings up the start screen. < 1379960973 384168 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379960976 460587 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: eh android's pretty controlled < 1379960984 177802 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how locked down will it be though? < 1379961017 359009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah but is it really 'owned and controlled fully' by google (i don't know how android works) < 1379961019 955661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: personally I used http://www.startisback.com/ to make Windows 8 like bad old Windows when playing around with it in a VM. YMMV on whether you can bring yourself to pay for a start menu. < 1379961033 368778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh? Well, I guess that's okay too. I can just think the screen is a big menu. < 1379961067 367626 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The living-room is family territory. That’s great, but you don’t want to see your parents’ games in your library. Soon, families will have more control over what titles get seen by whom, and more features to allow everyone in the house to get the most out of their Steam libraries. < 1379961078 935747 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Android is kind of controlled, kind of open. The source is open, the play store, is not. Nor is the development towards the next release until it is released. < 1379961125 413410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can play all your Windows and Mac games on your SteamOS machine, too. Just turn on your existing computer and run Steam as you always have - then your SteamOS machine can stream those games over your home network straight to your TV!" < 1379961132 371583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That streaming stuff seems really popular these days. < 1379961140 236875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Nvidia keep doing that kind of thing too? < 1379961142 436288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mac games" heh < 1379961152 409025 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well onlive folded iirc < 1379961173 652740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I mean locally-inside-the-house kind of stuff this time. < 1379961182 81253 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt there are many games on mac that are not on windows. I know of a couple, and they are really really old. < 1379961205 269223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shield streams games from a PC too, AIUI. < 1379961255 198556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess they have the GRID project. < 1379961259 611900 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1379961265 490552 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one is GRID? < 1379961274 713869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvidia's own Onlive-style thing, I think. < 1379961303 72831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: porn games right < 1379961310 587213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be it < 1379961315 612078 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u know it bro B) < 1379961319 182509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1379961330 866051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to keep the nude mods out of sight < 1379961331 785565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure if they were going to run the service too or what; at least it's a family of hardware for running a "cloud gaming" service. < 1379961362 298510 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379961395 819260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the idea was that steam was going to stream from a PC in your house < 1379961398 869102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When service operators use NVIDIA GRID as the foundation for their on-demand Gaming as a Service (GaaS) solution --" < 1379961409 100369 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna play me some leisure suit larry on the biiiiig screen < 1379961421 861742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: With the biiiiig pixels. < 1379961427 601649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, yes, that's what fizzie was initially talking about < 1379961430 836722 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo as a service is pretty great < 1379961468 947889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Service as a Service. < 1379961656 839266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :food as a service < 1379961928 703126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The background on the SteamOS page -- http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ -- looks kind of like the Land of Wind and Shade. (I'm about 3000 pages behind in Homestuck, incidentally.) < 1379962529 66 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, it's all downhill from there < 1379962671 909675 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379962738 664190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/downhill/uphill < 1379962754 388730 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ < 1379962761 575561 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for completing my regex -_- < 1379962771 322884 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need the trailing slash for sed, man! < 1379962809 852933 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also imo it's not very hilly since it's in magispace < 1379962960 163427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magic of paradox space! < 1379963011 322934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379963076 582484 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379963370 516266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone just posted on a.l.i asking for a MarioLANG impl < 1379963384 293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mentioning it here, because I imagine most of you don't read a.l.i) < 1379963620 719235 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1379963645 323914 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379963880 204638 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379963948 825594 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379963979 387455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How much are they paying?" < 1379964098 92830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh, you were up to the doc scratch intermission? < 1379964148 251858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think I was up to something like that, yes. < 1379964831 244547 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379965051 718241 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379965566 809838 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1379965794 481344 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc has become impressively good at emitting calls to optimized functions that don't exist < 1379965991 416523 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379967361 334241 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379967361 779513 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Great Possessing" to "Sojourning" < 1379967665 881733 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379967666 124011 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Small Exceeding" to "Sojourning" < 1379967842 308505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379967845 344914 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Grouping" to "Returning" < 1379967855 70865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. I was worried it was stuck on sojourning. < 1379967918 243634 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379967919 568192 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Returning" to "Gnawing Bite" < 1379967940 676233 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what are these from < 1379967962 732900 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379967969 218680 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I Ching. < 1379967999 12264 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is I also written ~yi or something? < 1379968006 736753 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Ching... is that the weird two-player game where you've got to draw a path with othello-like tiles? < 1379968028 825585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine my confusion when I looked up in the sky to see a bunch of tiny clouds spelling out the word "CLOUD" in big letters < 1379968030 98420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: depends on the romanisation. < 1379968047 446084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(skywriter advertising) < 1379968055 58566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is stalked by fractal clouds. < 1379968061 568336 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds very pkd < 1379968066 416321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379968067 955448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: never heard of that. < 1379968089 239685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my usual tagline is "stupid cyberpunk future" but this is less cyberpunk and more like Hofstadter and PKD dropped acid together < 1379968123 152782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: there's this game played with a go board and stones, where both players use black stone at first, then one of them decides during the game to play white. < 1379968153 83042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything in this city is trying to sell me clouds of various shapes < 1379968174 642930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: apparently, my divination relates to having freedom transformed into vacations or something. < 1379968183 633620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm due for a quick trip abroad... < 1379968283 386522 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you mean go with the pie-rule? < 1379968290 695395 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen anyone play that < 1379968334 757554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the goal is to make a line that connects 2 or 3 sides first. can't remember the details; I'm trying to find the game again. < 1379968642 454593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's that, but I'm vraiment pas sûr: http://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~jpn/gv/gonnect.htm < 1379968655 81619 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gonnect" < 1379968657 179958 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUBTLE < 1379968677 977872 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RULES - The rules of GO apply, except: < 1379968678 567908 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Players may not pass; < 1379968678 713113 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : The PIE rule: White may choose as his 1st move to exchange places with Black. < 1379968692 541302 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I'm not sure it's that. < 1379968697 346512 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1379968714 326108 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I didn't quote the remainder of the page where they explain you have to connect 2 or 3 sides < 1379968733 785286 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *know* there's a game where you have to connect three sides. < 1379968933 930884 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm interesting < 1379968961 178644 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article says player often reach a dead-end because of mutually separated groups < 1379968984 544165 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the game keeps going until someone runs out of moves and has to commit suicide < 1379968996 900875 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's basically go < 1379969027 9043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite go move is the nuclear tesuji :D < 1379969110 457725 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :nay, B2 bomber < 1379969157 679655 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379969208 744660 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, nothing compares to a Swedish fuseki. < 1379969738 961639 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 125 J -> L*atm < 1379969751 648034 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :5000/4053 (approx. 1.233654083395016) < 1379969793 704074 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379969960 167777 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379970264 394504 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379970325 137758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379970574 216599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: yes it is. < 1379970607 927079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen yes it is. < 1379970608 72232 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379970629 662383 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look into it < 1379970643 877319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia anyone who sees that in the future will think it is two quotes <-- WOW YOU WERE PSYCHIC < 1379970644 22467 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379970692 786394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: in fact, that machine being TC is a step on the road to showing that an ordinary minsky machine with 2 register is TC. < 1379970710 129228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*registers < 1379970835 254690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: also, fractran is basically a version of it with much simplified flow control. < 1379970981 274105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because fractran has no persistent machine state in addition to the unbounded single register. < 1379971019 751830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you need temporary state to know where you are in the list of fractions, though.) < 1379971318 987827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2222222222222222222 < 1379971332 425323 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379971344 727416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379971406 213785 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379971583 892148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION applies percussive maintenance on ais523 --------#̈#̈#̈ < 1379971613 912720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's my standard rule that whenever I accidentally spam a lot of keys due to leaning on the keyboard in #esoteric, I send rather than delete < 1379971621 660776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed I'd been leaning on the "2" key, so… < 1379971635 731527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee < 1379971701 984366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how a simple “plot twist” becomes «revirement de situation». sometimes, English is much more efficient... < 1379971743 948969 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379971764 419365 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh! not again? < 1379971780 875713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est < 1379971782 897667 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379971786 261755 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1379971801 837569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :run run, run awaaaaaaaaayyyyyy ♪ < 1379971808 325996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oh oh oh! < 1379971817 811084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck psycho killer < 1379971818 136217 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Psycho Killer" is a song written by David Byrne, Chris Frantz and Tina Weymouth and first played by their band The Artistic in 1974, and as new wave band Talking Heads in 1975, with a later version recorded for their 1977 album Talking Heads: 77. < 1379971831 769623 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ba ba ba ba, ba ba ba ba ba, ba, better < 1379971987 919125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZUUL < 1379971988 321605 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1379972175 216390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZMUB < 1379972175 684245 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZMUB 232130Z 00000MPS CAVOK M06/M08 Q1024 NOSIG RMK QFE659.9 89 < 1379972307 438533 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENSB < 1379972307 841490 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENSB 232050Z 14003KT CAVOK 00/M02 Q1034 RMK WIND 1400FT 26003KT < 1379972318 849294 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. it's colder in Ulaan Baatar than in Svalbard. < 1379972576 973016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ZMUB-ENSB < 1379972615 378716 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shiny! < 1379972642 826718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar UEEE < 1379972643 244232 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UEEE 232130Z 34006MPS 9999 BKN016CB OVC100 03/01 Q0997 NOSIG RMK QFE739 23190055 < 1379972686 438469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KSFO < 1379972686 845580 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 232056Z 05003KT 10SM CLR 22/13 A2998 RMK AO2 SLP151 T02170133 58016 < 1379972717 765654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can chain them! < 1379972770 544983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=CYUL-KEWR-VHHH < 1379972781 287702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a cool site < 1379972796 817620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course it's all nice and sunny and warm in Frisco. < 1379972799 161712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is jealous < 1379972805 949761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't call it Frisco!! < 1379972819 803735 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ulaanbaatar is in the middle of a continental desert, it gets super windy i think < 1379972820 562755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleeeeeeeeh :P < 1379972830 669174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry we locals are supposed to get really annoyed when people call it Frisco < 1379972836 73893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: right now, there's no wind at that airport. < 1379972836 242410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know why but it's A Thing < 1379972838 790058 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Cisco < 1379972842 573603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: even worse < 1379972852 997773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, "Cisco" is named after the last five letters in "San Francisco" < 1379972856 905853 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nabesico < 1379972880 224170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old Nabisco building in Cambridge, MA is now owned by Novartis < 1379972903 512876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from biscuits to boner pills < 1379972922 341376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Novartis owns all, except when property of GSK or Bayer. < 1379972928 875843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or probably Astra Zeneca) < 1379972973 627095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think Pfizer is owned by any of those < 1379972997 712882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Novartis is descended from the company that invented LSD < 1379973023 64419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go empoison myself. < 1379973030 812277 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, one of the burger chains has a Frisco meal < 1379973034 153943 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: BROUE! < 1379973036 150790 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379973063 862101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a Frisco, Texas < 1379973078 513254 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :named entirely to piss off san franciscans < 1379973081 854220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1379973115 874931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now looking at Dallas and Houston on a map < 1379973116 723092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1379973118 371926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many freeways < 1379973136 705761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite like LA though < 1379973405 12766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls looking up Frisco on wikipedia once. it actually was named after san francisco. < 1379973429 788769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once = last couple of months, i think < 1379973468 451621 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379973488 861133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's still named after san francisco < 1379973525 319654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~meta ENVA < 1379973532 492115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1379973625 778598 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1379973634 683418 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379973694 904294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, too. < 1379973750 173435 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379973769 634586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 1904, the residents chose Frisco City in honor of the St. Louis-San Francisco Railway on which the town was founded" < 1379973818 875144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which railway apparently never made it west of Texas < 1379973823 643342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimistic name < 1379974166 499217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a house office named Godspeed Through Texas < 1379974174 628255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what their duties were, other than organizing Naked Run < 1379974266 331683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you'd need to speed through texas for that. < 1379974392 852097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a long time to run from california to texas, whether or not you're naked < 1379974448 123315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru dat < 1379974971 533852 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379975668 754855 :Tomski!~Tomski@host-2-101-28-202.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379975688 351983 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