00:18:04 kmc: lol 00:18:15 genuinely curious how people explain things like that 00:18:25 boredom or libertarianism 00:18:26 I have plenty of explanations I'd propose, but am still wondering 00:20:16 is the question "why do libertarians tend to be well-off white dudes" cause I don't think that one is very difficult to explain 00:22:10 yes 00:22:25 :) 00:23:27 what do you think of futarchy, copumpkin 00:23:58 -!- Ghoul_ has quit (*.net *.split). 00:24:06 is that some sort of japanese thing 00:25:00 kmc: seems interesting 00:25:00 nah, it's something something prediction markets 00:25:18 let me try to put my finger on a concern though, or read more and find it's handled :P 00:26:59 http://fabiensanglard.net/rayTracing_back_of_business_card/ wat 00:27:26 instead of voting on policies, you vote to determine a social utility function, and then use prediction markets to pursue policies which maximize that utility function 00:27:37 I don't know much more than that summary, but it's a cool idea anyway 00:28:43 Bike, can you not just print it really small 00:29:04 what's the point of a business card you can't read! 00:29:13 it's cool 'cause it uses the ability of markets to optimize stuff, but without the libertarian assumption that what markets optimize 'by default' is fair or good 00:29:42 my concern is that it isn't just gov't that could affect the things being bet on 00:29:52 it could create perverse private incentives to make programs fail 00:30:31 this page calls typedef "define" and a struct a class. okay, then 00:31:11 hah, !v for normalization 00:31:55 Bike: well struct and class are nearly the same in C++ 00:32:19 the only difference is that structs have public visibility by default, while class has private visibility 00:32:31 oh, i didn't think you could have inheritance with structs 00:32:40 presumably the author used 'struct{' because it's shorter than 'class{public:' 00:32:52 nope, you can do all the same things 00:33:55 copumpkin: true 00:34:58 Bike: This also means that class{public: ... } is just a struct. :) 00:35:19 Assuming no methods. 00:36:00 C++ has this separate concept of "Plain Old Data" for things that are like C structs, but they can still have (non-virtual) methods 00:36:56 arguably a lot of C structs are not Plain Old Data either, it's just that the language provides no way to express this 00:39:14 -!- OriginalOldMan has joined. 00:39:25 for example you might say that it should be safe and reasonable to clone a POD object with a simple memcpy(), which does not hold for many C structs 00:39:56 like what? 00:40:00 I don't know if that's part of the generally used definitions of POD, though 00:40:48 Bike: say your struct contains a pointer to a reference-counted object 00:41:02 you need to increment the refcount when you copy the struct and hence the pointer 00:42:09 in C++ you would express this by using a smart pointer (like std::shared_ptr) for the field, which will make the struct non-POD 00:42:15 oh, so like, semantics 00:42:31 the neat thing is that the default constructor and destructor in C++ will still do the right thing 00:42:41 for some reason i thought not being able to memcpy at all 00:43:02 ah 00:43:47 because i am bad at c++ 00:44:04 C++ is so cool 00:45:14 it's ugly and archaic and it's complex to the point of being nearly unusable, but everything does fit together and exist for a reason 00:45:25 It's my favorite esolang. 00:45:28 :D 00:45:35 (did you get that meme from me?) 00:45:39 kmc: money is just too powerful! :P 00:45:51 (probably, but the sentiment was just too good to leave to one man) 00:46:12 yay 00:46:16 memes want to spread 00:46:53 I might try to design an esolang with region pointers, once I learn how the hell they work 00:47:07 -!- nisstyre has joined. 00:47:15 region pointers? 00:47:53 Rust's "borrowed pointers" have a "region" or "lifetime" attached which says how long the pointer is guaranteed to remain valid 00:48:00 it's part of the type 00:48:20 usually inferred, but you can name them if you want, which means you can return these things as well as take them as arguments 00:49:03 struct Foo { x: int } fn f<'t>(foo: &'t Foo) -> &'t int { &foo.x } 00:49:16 takes a pointer to a Foo, returns a pointer to the int inside, which is valid as long as the original pointer was 00:49:34 huh. 00:49:46 i think i'm with you re: not knowing how the hell they work 00:49:58 rust <3 00:50:34 -!- OriginalOldMan has quit (Quit: Page closed). 00:50:39 and since they're like type parameters you can also parametrize data over them, e.g. to make a vector iterator which is parametrized over how long the original vector lives 00:52:34 sounds pretty serious for an esolang, though 00:53:03 in Rust they also track mutability; if you have a borrowed pointer of the immutable sort, you know that nobody else can mutate the object while you're using it through that pointer 00:53:33 the aliasing rules are strict enough to guarantee that 00:54:13 and so if you borrow a mutable thing as immutable, the compiler will "freeze" it for the duration of the borrow, which is a static typechecker thing except for garbage-collected stuff, which needs to be frozen dynamically 00:54:54 myname: well it might be an esolang or it might just be a toy language for my understanding 00:55:02 depending on whether it can be made interestingly perverse 00:55:13 Region-C or Region-fuck. 00:55:18 for example what if the only data you have is region pointers, and you need to do basic arithmetic using regions somehow 00:55:28 I don't know enough about it to say whether that is a coherent idea 00:55:33 kmc: how do you distinguish between eso and toy? 00:56:02 esolangs are designed to be interestingly weird and difficult to use 00:56:13 ah 00:56:19 so... where is J? 00:56:28 I don't consider Brainfuck to be a "true esolang" because although it's very minimal, and hard to use for that reason, the concepts it uses are straightforward and familiar 00:56:41 and it was designed not to be difficult but to have a very simple compiler 00:57:08 that definition of esolang is way too restrictive IMO 00:57:10 J isn't supposed to be difficult to use. 00:57:39 I wonder if APL counts as weird in context. I mean, A Programming Language didn't have a whole lot of competition. 00:57:44 lol 00:57:47 Not to mention, Brainfuck is fairly easy to target. 00:58:45 Maybe I should write an article on the wiki on Chaitin's "lisp-with-apl-character-set" bullshit and that can be my first article. 00:59:11 I guess the whole compiling to diophantine equations thing is pretty esoteric. 00:59:28 the hell? 00:59:40 Right. 01:01:12 why should anybody wants to ADD apl character set to something? 01:01:32 It's not added. There aren't alphanumeric characters. Or multi-character identifiers. 01:01:40 (hope this helps) 01:02:26 -!- augur_ has joined. 01:02:27 I should rewatch the ending of season two of ATLA 01:02:27 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:07:57 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 01:16:11 whats that 01:32:35 -!- nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 01:33:36 -!- augur_ has changed nick to augur. 01:37:41 -!- nisstyre has joined. 01:43:06 -!- OriginalOldMan has joined. 01:53:35 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:59:10 _o/'`\o_ 01:59:10 | | 01:59:10 /< /`\ 01:59:48 that right one looks like he got a boner 01:59:57 he's raising his dongers 02:00:39 lots of people on efnet used to hate on me because they thought i was you btw. just sayin :) 02:00:52 huh? 02:00:58 i never was on efnet 02:01:09 must be one of the nets with another myname 02:01:09 ah, must be a different person with the same nick then 02:01:28 i am surprised i got it here tbh 02:01:40 the other myname was a script kiddie, at least at one point 02:01:52 oh dear 02:01:55 myndzi, please turn off the `? stick figure 02:02:02 `? 02:02:06 ? 02:02:34 hackego has been kicked for now, but you know the one i mean 02:02:34 myname: either way, this is gonna get confusing, hahaha 02:02:41 i don't, actually 02:02:45 i don't know what was bound to `? 02:02:52 ¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:02:52 | 02:02:52 º¯`\o 02:02:57 That one. 02:03:42 er, you mean the whole script? or just that smiley 02:03:53 that smiley 02:04:03 why's that? 02:11:25 because it triggers whenever hackego turns up a blank in the wisdom db, and triples the line count 02:17:27 -!- Ghoul_ has joined. 02:20:20 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:20:54 that sounds like a hackego problem to me :P i can block that line or something if you like 02:21:13 -!- augur has joined. 02:21:46 ¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:21:46 | 02:21:46 º¯`\o 02:23:05 ah, i see 02:23:13 i don't know what hackego is supposed to do in most cases :P 02:23:57 \o/ \o/ 02:24:13 you can make any line ignored by leading it with ^k69^o 02:24:22 for what it's worth 02:25:30 actually, anywhere in the line now. should be simple enough to tack on the end or something for specific cases 02:25:41 \o/ \o/ 02:26:36 isn't the typical solution to block HackEgo from your bot 02:26:53 i would, but people store things in it that are intended to trigger my thing too 02:27:09 the ignore thing was already there, i use it for other stuff 02:28:34 -!- HackEgo has joined. 02:28:53 Fix YOUR bot, dick. 02:28:57 -!- HackEgo has left. 02:29:03 har. 02:30:06 well my solutions are: ignore hackego entirely (undesirable), disable that specific smiley (undesirable), write code to ignore that specific line (undesirable), disable entirely (undesirable) 02:30:26 compared with essentially saying 'i explicitly don't want this particular smiley to trigger the thing' 02:30:47 The first is desirable. 02:30:59 okay then 02:31:00 And if anybody WANTS your bot to respond to HackEgo, it is THEY who are undesirable. 02:31:05 haha 02:31:09 i was thinking about things like `celebrate 02:31:22 not just the `? deal 02:31:32 I stand by my previous statement. 02:31:36 -!- HackEgo has joined. 02:32:46 test \o/ 02:32:53 silly mirc 02:33:45 `? aoeu 02:33:47 aoeu? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 02:34:02 all set \o/ 02:34:03 | 02:34:03 >\ 02:39:53 -!- Koen has quit (Quit: Koen). 02:54:10 -!- mnoqy has joined. 02:59:02 * kmc fights the urge to pick fights with Haskell zealots on Twitter, which is still more sensible than copumpkin picking fights with libertarians 02:59:10 lol 02:59:23 haskelliots 02:59:38 * copumpkin doesn't really get kmc's anti-haskell-community revelation 03:00:00 there are zealots but just avoid them and take all the good, smart people who spend all their time learning about cool new stuff 03:00:05 and not frothing at the mouth :P 03:00:14 well I found it very hard to avoid them in #haskell 03:00:31 #haskell-lens is quite pleasant 03:00:33 maybe there are other outposts of "Haskell community" which are better 03:00:55 it's supposedly about lenses 03:01:03 I realize it's actually #haskell-edwardk 03:01:05 but has ended up being just a friendly place to talk about cool stuff 03:01:06 yeah 03:01:09 I did join a while back 03:01:09 but everyone else uses it 03:01:15 but left when my client restarted or something ;P 03:01:21 he hasn't been around much recently 03:01:35 my specific complaint lately is "Rust doesn't have higher-order polymorphism? well it must be shit and I will repeat that opinion forever without bothering to learn anything else about it" 03:01:42 I dunno if I would get that attitude in -lens or not 03:01:58 I doubt it, but shachaf is around more than I am 03:01:59 :) 03:02:09 not that I don't want higher-order polymorphism in Rust... 03:02:34 most of the haskellers I respect have stated that they find rust interesting and would probably use it for systems code 03:02:42 the others haven't said anything much about it :P 03:02:45 ok 03:03:06 keep in mind that there's about 1 person in that group, and that's me 03:03:09 err 03:03:10 I mean 03:03:16 haha ;P 03:03:29 it would be cool if some of the many Haskell libraries that include C code could switch to Rust 03:03:35 :) 03:03:44 we'd just need some support in cabal for building rust code 03:03:44 and it would be cool to have a high level FFI between the languages, e.g. something which preserves algebraic types and memory management 03:03:46 I'd love that 03:03:49 yeah 03:04:06 it's something I'd vaguely like to work on, but I'm probably too lazy to do anything more than a proof of concept 03:04:11 how many high level FFIs even exist? 03:04:12 rustc is such a moving target too 03:04:13 I know the feeling :) 03:04:20 do they have a fixed calling convention? 03:04:22 it may not be worth Cabal trying to sync up with it at present 03:04:28 we're only just getting rustpkg off the ground 03:04:52 I don't know how fixed the Rust calling convention is, but you can also call in and out of Rust with the C calling convention 03:05:02 ah 03:05:14 and Rust structs are defined to be C compatible 03:05:20 so in unrelated news, i just learned a proper use of subgraph isomorphis. gotta get cracking on that eodermdrome interpreter now. 03:05:26 kmc: are you on the rust team? 03:05:32 so there's no need for C glue or "find the offset of everything" preprocessors a la hsc2hs 03:05:46 no I'm working on Servo, which is the ~only big project in Rust besides rustc itself 03:05:49 ah 03:05:56 Bike: :D 03:06:34 "or put another way, there are already eodermdrome interpreters running in the chemistry department" 03:06:43 lol 03:06:45 so which application is this? 03:07:22 Bike: well RPC mechanisms which allow nested key-value structures as values are pretty common 03:07:23 big molecules are, unsurprisingly, represented as graphs. chemists sometimes want to search for submolecules. 03:07:27 you could consider that a high level FFI 03:07:59 wikipedia says it's a "common misconception" that it just does regex search on a linearized form, though. i shudder for chemoinformaticians 03:11:57 copumpkin: writing rustc in Rust is kind of questionable... on the other hand, writing the Rust runtime system in Rust is fucking awesome 03:12:13 I bet :) 03:12:15 what's Servo? 03:12:32 a new web layout / rendering engine with an emphasis on parallelism 03:12:41 https://github.com/mozilla/servo 03:13:04 oh yeah 03:13:06 I remember that 03:14:41 also an emphasis on security through memory safety, eventually, but it's kind of a joke to claim that at the moment 03:14:55 since we use C libraries for a bunch of stuff, and lots of unsafe Rust code for various other reasons 03:15:02 ah 03:15:34 what part of servo do you work on? 03:15:53 whatever needs doing; it's a small team 03:15:59 ah 03:16:26 actually most of the commits to date are from Rust people; having a separate team for Servo is a new thing 03:16:29 so do you have a full html parser in rust? 03:16:30 of course we still work together closely 03:16:38 no, that's one of the things we're using a C library for at present 03:16:40 ah 03:17:08 HTML / CSS parsing, image decoding, JavaScript are all in C 03:17:27 -!- OriginalOldMan has quit (Quit: Page closed). 03:17:28 we would like for it to all be Rust but the priority varies by component 03:17:46 for example we'd like to replace the CSS parser soon because it performs poorly (or rather, the CSS selector matching part of the library does) 03:18:03 and we'd like to replace image decoding soonish for security + robustness 03:18:20 (if an image decode fails within Rust code, we can easily catch that with the usual Rust task failure mechanisms and recover) 03:18:21 what HTML parser do you use? 03:18:28 hubbub 03:18:32 right 03:18:39 I started working on Haskell bindings to hubbub years ago. I forget why. I gave up. 03:18:49 it's doubtful that we will ever replace SpiderMonkey with a production quality JavaScript engine in Rust 03:19:15 cause that's an incredible amount of work, plus the security benefits are murkier 03:21:21 we need to do something about the fact that new versions of SpiderMonkey have only a C++ API and not a C API :( 03:23:36 Rust more than most languages could support a "first-class" C++ FFI, but it would still be a huge pain 03:24:15 what makes an FFI "first-class"? 03:25:15 well in this case I mean that we can map many C++ features to directly analogous Rust features, while most languages can't because they don't have any analogous feature 03:26:01 like if your C++ API uses RAII then it's hard to map it directly to most languages, but plausible that we could do this for Rust 03:26:09 ahhh 03:26:13 does the C++ spidermonkey API use C++y features? 03:26:24 I'm told it does use RAII at least; I haven't looked into it 03:26:29 RAII is running code when a variable goes out of scope? 03:26:39 but it sounds like our job would be harder than just "auto-generate an extern "C" for each of these prototypes" 03:26:58 Erm, hmm, guess not 03:27:11 does it use exceptions? like. what happens if initialization fails 03:27:19 Sgeo_: the RAII idea is implemented by running code when an object is destroyed (which could happen by a variable going out of scope, yes) 03:27:22 All I'm thinking is that in Tcl, you can have code run when a variable is unset, which includes if it goes out of scope 03:28:21 Sgeo_: the core idea is that having some object represents that you've acquired some resource (e.g. opened a file or taken a lock) 03:28:47 Mutex m; { Lock l = m.lock(); ... } 03:29:03 you don't need to call any unlock() method because it will happen automatically when you leave that scope, even if you leave due to an exception 03:29:27 (or by invoking 'return' deep inside some branching control flow) 03:29:53 so in this instance it's similar to Python's 'with' statement and other stuff in a lot of languages 03:30:29 but it's more general because the object representing the acquired resource doesn't *have to* live on the stack with lifetime synced to a single function call 03:30:48 you can put that Lock in a heap allocated object 03:31:00 Should be doable in Tcl I think. And Tcl doesn't have automatic GC, although with most OO systems for Tcl including TclOO, you can specify destructors 03:31:16 or if you want to refcount the retention of the lock, put it in a std::shared_ptr 03:31:20 etc 03:31:20 Actually, by 'most' I mean, I'm only certain about TclOO 03:31:28 how does Tcl free storage if not GC? 03:31:40 Reference counting. 03:31:44 Well, strings are GCed, sorry about that 03:31:46 ah 03:31:49 Or, well, reference counted. 03:31:55 Tcl's native value type, being strings, cannot be circularly referenced. 03:31:58 But anything mutable (variables, namespaces) aren't GCed 03:32:09 heh 03:32:44 Oh, and strings are immutable 03:33:17 yeah, it might be possible to map RAII nicely into refcounted systems with destructors 03:33:22 I haven't thought about it 03:34:05 a lot of gc'd systems provide some kind of hook to call when something is destroyed 03:34:16 kind of a bad idea to use it for raii, though 03:34:18 yeah but if it's true GC, that doesn't happen at any particular time 03:34:20 right 03:34:36 plus it might just not happen at all sooooo 03:35:01 "Note that destructors are not called in all situations (e.g. if the interpreter is destroyed)" 03:35:24 :/ 03:35:33 lol 03:35:56 I should note that in Tcl, 'interpreter' is not synonymous with 'running program' 03:36:05 So it's not as lolzy as it sounds 03:36:11 is it still something sigkillable 03:36:27 A Tcl program can invoke sub-interpreters 03:36:31 And control them 03:36:54 I think that's how Tcl does threads 03:56:29 -!- zzo38 has joined. 03:57:19 I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? 03:58:13 -!- dessos has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 04:03:38 i want to frame you 04:05:43 For what? 04:06:37 wrong sense of "frame" 04:07:30 It doesn't matter what sense, it doesn't answer, what? 04:07:56 in this sense "for" is meaningless. 04:08:20 Well, why do you want to? 04:08:38 because that's a great question. 04:10:49 But yours isn't a very good question. 04:11:43 :( 04:39:23 Numerology stuff is as silly as, if you had a computer program that calculates the MD5 hash of the current date/time and treats it as a machine code address and jumps to it. Isn't it? 04:39:56 it is. 04:40:39 (Maybe this comparison can even be used to make a idea to make a esolang) 04:44:47 Do you have a better kind of comparison (if there is one)? 04:45:52 i don't need a comparison because one time i saw a book about how santa was satan and was going to end the world, and it wasn't a joke 04:46:46 Yes some people do stupid things like that 04:53:42 It is certainly stupid but it doesn't seem to have a lot to do with numerology. 04:55:52 Oh it was all based on numerology. s+a+n+t+a added up to 666 or whatever. 04:56:32 Well, of course anagrams do too, then. 04:57:18 (Although, so can things other than anagrams. Anagrams are one class of words that do.) 05:01:27 -!- audioPhil_ has joined. 05:03:04 These and other divinations can be described by two things: artificial correspondences, and the improper use of these correspondences. 05:03:23 -!- audioPhil has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 05:08:32 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:15:50 -!- Bike has joined. 05:56:17 "Be careful with this message. Similar messages were used to steal people's personal information. Unless you trust the sender, don't click links or reply with personal information. " 05:56:27 But I trust FedEx *sends personal info* 05:56:35 Maybe that message should be reworded? 05:59:03 or maybe you shouldn't have sent them personal info :) 05:59:16 mostly that would depend on whether it really was fedex or not 06:02:21 If you need the service from FedEx, then ignore the message and send it to FedEx using the telephone book or whatever instead of that message perhaps. 06:02:47 If you do not need the service from FedEx, then ignore the message and don't send your personal info. 06:09:57 -!- Taneb has joined. 06:34:24 -!- zzo38 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:39:05 -!- FreeFull has quit. 06:39:36 -!- zzo38 has joined. 06:39:59 Why do I sometimes get error about IRQ not less or equal? 06:40:12 What does sdIv:;aL{l*h?[?Q4-xiYf9QSi3U&7edDCVZ3z god help you 06:42:13 Well, I will sleep now anyways. 06:42:34 the IRQ less or equal error is a symptom of bad RAM, usually (it would be interesting to learn why it causes some assert about an IRQ to fail though) 06:42:46 While I am writing now (after the crash), all these four lines starting with "W"; do you know that? 06:43:08 olsner: I used the RAM test program and it says the RAM is OK. 06:44:01 hmm, I'm out of prepackaged answers then... maybe it's just a bug of some kind 06:44:08 OK 06:44:14 -!- zzo38 has quit (Client Quit). 06:45:26 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 06:48:36 -!- atriq has joined. 06:49:00 -!- Taneb has quit (Disconnected by services). 06:49:03 -!- dessos has joined. 06:49:04 -!- atriq has changed nick to Taneb. 07:03:19 @tell Buggy drivers, sometimes. The "official" answer is at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms854226.aspx 07:03:19 Consider it noted. 07:04:36 olsner: See above; IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is the (very self-explanatory, I'm sure) error message you get on generic memory access violations in kernel mode, more or less. 07:06:39 (The number it's checking is not exactly an "IRQ" number but a sort of a privilege level: http://mikemstech.blogspot.se/2011/11/how-to-troubleshoot-blue-screen-0xa.html lists them.) 07:37:03 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 07:41:19 -!- tromp_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:41:24 -!- tromp__ has joined. 07:53:22 -!- mnoqy has joined. 08:08:56 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 08:09:48 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:22:17 -!- Taneb has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 08:23:53 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 08:35:39 -!- Taneb has joined. 08:51:14 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 09:21:50 -!- mnoqy has joined. 09:36:32 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 09:45:23 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 10:40:36 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 10:48:08 -!- Koen has joined. 10:52:00 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 10:53:35 do we have a language where the only data structure is an unbounded integer accumulator? but with sufficiently arithmetic operations to make it turing-complete 10:56:22 though I guess if you give it too many arithmetic instructions it becomes too easy, as you can make a simple stack of "digits" in base B with push x ::= (acc = acc * B + x), drop = (acc = acc / B) and pop = (acc % B) 10:56:30 hmm 10:57:42 not sure how to make a deque though; in order to access the top digit you need a way to store (or compute) the number of digits 11:07:06 Koen: a "single" unbounded integer accumulator? 11:07:31 if you meant two or more (but the fixed number of) accumulators, there it is: http://esolangs.org/wiki/NULL 11:07:37 otherwise I don't know. 11:07:41 Koen, Fractran's pretty close 11:08:04 lifthrasiir: well if you got two that's close to a minsky machine right? 11:08:08 right 11:08:15 depending on operations 11:10:15 interesting 11:25:13 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:31:48 -!- oerjan has joined. 11:32:47 * oerjan hugs HackEgo 11:33:33 what do you mean i never hug real people. 11:37:36 Hi, oerjan 11:37:41 How are you doing 11:38:04 back pain :( 11:39:54 @tell myndzi fortunately ^celebrate is on fungot, not HackEgo 11:39:55 Consider it noted. 11:39:55 oerjan: from where does the hero alone have the power. " m, madam...! i am the master of war! i've seen all kinds of battles from here, step back, prometheus! 11:41:27 fungot: what can you say about sword stopping 11:41:27 oerjan: but cyrus! are you leaving! ayla like crono! what should we do?! robo, don't waste your time. alfador only likes you, crono! 11:41:44 fungot: that doesn't seem very relevant to swords. 11:41:44 oerjan: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! 11:42:28 -!- updog has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 11:42:56 fungot: You're all about tricycles. 11:42:56 fizzie: shall we get back to the present? he's been known. we reptites will rule the world in a mere door that keeps us bound, hand, foot...and tongue kid? ...oh, it's you, isn't this morbid? the great adventurer toma levine rests in a grave to the north. it's a great place for a picnic! heard that magus's place... 11:43:09 This thing is really repetitive. 11:43:27 I had a good idea for a fungot dataset except it was something in Finnish. 11:43:27 fizzie: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... this must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat you, lavos. 11:43:43 istr someone suggested finnish already. 11:43:45 oerjan, I hope your back pain lessens 11:43:57 Taneb: well i just took some pain killers. 11:43:59 Yes, but it was some specific Finnish thing. I forget what it was exactly. 11:44:42 clearly kalevala 11:45:03 I think it was something from the Institute. 11:45:24 then fungot could be all highbrow and only the finns would understand it. 11:45:24 oerjan: the masamune!? noooo!!! ha! 11:45:35 (The "Institute for the Languages of Finland"; we're helping them with some audio things.) 11:45:43 fungot: There, that's a sword. 11:45:44 fizzie: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! we must do it to save you! who the heck are you?! c'mon!! 11:46:57 fungot: what about trying excalibur instead. 11:46:58 oerjan: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. 11:47:33 They have a 1456658-word corpus of Finnish classics from 1880s to 1930s, that would be a highbrow Finnish thing to do. 11:47:46 But I don't really think so, there's books enough in it already. 12:02:00 apparently there's still an official head of the tokugawa clan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokugawa_Tsunenari 12:02:52 -!- Roujo has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 12:04:13 -!- Roujo has joined. 12:16:27 -!- Roujo has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 12:19:15 -!- Roujo has joined. 12:56:19 Grumble frubmle Praat does not play audio. 12:59:39 -!- boily has joined. 12:59:54 good it-happened morning! 13:01:14 -!- metasepia has joined. 13:06:49 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 13:12:25 -!- Roujo has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 13:12:50 -!- Roujo has joined. 13:14:19 Roujo: おはよう！ 13:19:11 -!- Roujo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:20:21 -!- Roujo has joined. 13:29:48 -!- lambdabot has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 13:33:03 -!- Roujo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:34:18 `pastewisdom 13:34:22 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ 13:34:23 -!- Roujo has joined. 13:35:45 @tell Phantom_Hoover e2 to e4??? 13:35:54 right. lambdabot is dead. 13:39:17 by the way, what happened to the topic? 13:40:02 Codepoint fatigue. 13:40:07 It broke down under the load. 13:46:06 it was indeed getting pretty long and vetust. 13:47:04 boily: psst it's a pun on "pawn" 13:48:20 you and your non-rhotic English dialects... 13:50:40 -!- audioPhil_ has changed nick to audioPhil. 13:50:55 -!- audioPhil has quit (Changing host). 13:50:55 -!- audioPhil has joined. 13:51:51 -!- carado has joined. 14:06:50 `addquote I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? 14:06:55 1108) I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? 14:07:02 someone requested a framing. 14:09:30 the quote is added, the PDF updated, the yerba mate dranked, but what has DST got to do with Wicca? 14:10:54 that is all part of the zzo38 mystery 14:10:58 `quote mystery 14:11:00 367) as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw quintopia: I am at Canada. 14:11:26 hm did i actually put a double space when i said that? 14:11:28 -!- boily has set topic: Topic undergoing maintenance | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/. 14:11:43 `pastelogs I am at Canada 14:12:09 probably a manifestation of QILDSR. 14:12:17 wat 14:12:20