< 1380153662 637937 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... else do they want to call it < 1380153730 904627 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"manx isle and environs" < 1380153795 696036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "British and Irish Isles" seems to be a common choice < 1380153801 8152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also < 1380153814 487464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'isle' and 'island' bear like no etymological relation < 1380153893 193552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hazards a guess that The Question is "What is The Question?" < 1380154087 164961 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is "what is your mass and approximate coördinates" < 1380154137 449855 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380154251 116593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1380154257 388424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380154298 37780 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1380154914 127693 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380155617 665169 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380155838 835826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1380155845 165720 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :new < 1380155852 544260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good word < 1380155856 236243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should use it < 1380155858 19062 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1380155861 894127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has a certain novelty to it < 1380155862 37794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesot < 1380155874 140875 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20 < 1380155878 89588 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :naautore obeyogan mal jan sun lec mnesay fluvato impil nrneff stach cati bronster hnsta hairfy discherbra reat heaphtali moth mina < 1380155880 425909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: don't you mean yesod < 1380155885 725810 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380155894 307932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this... meant to be english < 1380155902 411709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obeyogan is what the people in turkey do when they support the government < 1380156018 537856 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380156103 476339 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bronster (n): Any person who has ever used a portmanteau of "bro" and another word to greet or introduce a friend. < 1380156371 623066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds si'nster < 1380156608 230965 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist sb&hj 44 < 1380156609 963845 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist sb&hj 44: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380156611 579702 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :45 < 1380157425 831883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen on proggit http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1n260u/brainfuck_in_xslt_because_no_reason/ < 1380157548 29407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, man, this is shit < 1380157554 443114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean not all that shit < 1380157560 683270 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean mediocre < 1380157709 515865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://quomodocumque.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/sorry-i-already-submitted-to-the-journal-of-surjections/ rad < 1380158354 298490 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380158451 654821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hey, you got linked from http://chneukirchen.org/trivium/. < 1380158706 248670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices http://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/ on that page < 1380159258 258574 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380160407 205803 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380160408 486122 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380162235 109770 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380162421 702093 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380162705 411773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kozmo.com/ I almost think this is satire < 1380163031 106596 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380164724 817178 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380166244 830450 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yay me. < 1380166938 477142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1380166944 349344 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which link? < 1380167312 95245 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380167327 844822 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1380167330 239547 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokoko < 1380167342 870781 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pol. < 1380167352 847238 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude sup < 1380167379 580943 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Phantom_Hoover said 19d 5h 44m 47s ago: say okokoko a bit in #esoteric so we can `addquote it" haha < 1380168341 783639 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Agora still exist? < 1380168348 792469 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there was a dictatorship scam recently < 1380168355 492337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the dictator's a fool < 1380169433 119490 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380169745 124716 :jiji!~jojo@client003.c028426.customers.cinergycom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380169867 500488 :jiji!~jojo@client003.c028426.customers.cinergycom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1380171695 721040 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380171803 767061 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380171993 103014 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380171998 247460 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380174076 850040 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380174832 767885 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380175250 323205 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380175287 992866 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DID I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO WATCH THE FINALE OF FREE! BEFORE BREAKFAST < 1380175336 399936 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1380175369 586859 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For an anime about water, my response was appropriate < 1380175449 112761 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380175476 244503 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is water pooling on my face < 1380176520 940278 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380176914 753492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1380177112 3370 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380177590 660643 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380177966 704490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FuNeSoMo" is such a silly project name. < 1380177985 515206 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less silly than PubSubHubbub < 1380177989 73821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's short for "Future Networks, Society and Modeling". < 1380179283 220396 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380180020 835560 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380181557 650727 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380181776 586579 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380183212 549895 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380184960 46440 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380185159 904622 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380186555 771293 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380186745 686725 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380187610 581093 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380189059 44613 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380193078 477799 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha! < 1380193080 615087 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahaha! < 1380193088 647993 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just got rust-mode working on emacs! < 1380193127 787070 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very funny indeed < 1380193706 885763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that an amused laugh or an evil madman laugh? < 1380193873 518968 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaning towards the latter, fizzie < 1380194157 79581 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 921 < 1380194161 295960 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 921: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1380194754 897499 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1380194764 191420 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1380194764 336753 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380195050 709960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380195094 343869 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380195117 722683 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380195201 720971 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380195607 939098 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380195993 589129 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380196011 527097 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1380196031 321799 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380196294 579706 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380196294 768905 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380197407 676763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380197582 29665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I understood your reference to curry about 4 hours later after you said it. < 1380197582 214084 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380197699 654881 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote curry < 1380197701 995669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380197706 228202 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote curry < 1380197706 373602 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: "Haskell is great, because Curry-Howard! Proving things in the type system. We can prove that, uh, Ints exist, unless they're ⊥." < 1380197993 170070 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519581/how-google-converted-language-translation-into-a-problem-of-vector-space-mathematics/ < 1380198067 174398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan re your previous @message: ☺ < 1380198067 319518 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380199061 96120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199150 494413 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that is an interesting article < 1380199513 966990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it isn't < 1380199519 298968 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's profoundly boring < 1380199582 341287 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is boring < 1380199606 51670 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're boring < 1380199637 672075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, vector spaces < 1380199646 747517 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how hard it was for me not to tell YOU you were boring? :( < 1380199690 318029 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199861 675499 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom-Hoover < 1380199877 259896 :Phantom-Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1380199890 83436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Changing host < 1380199890 270306 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-8005505 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199894 341303 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-8005505 QUIT :Changing host < 1380199894 486463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199898 132273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199957 894808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380199964 763502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199973 641354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: vector spaces... the final translation frontier... < 1380199978 294427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1380199978 439686 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 39m 56s ago: I understood your reference to curry about 4 hours later after you said it. < 1380199978 439863 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 31m 51s ago: re your previous @message: ☺ < 1380199996 10283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: JUST AS PLANNED < 1380200006 334914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1380200011 668514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1380200222 536431 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380200251 418906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo Everybody seems to have been convinced that Fool's scam didn't work (ais523 made a massively reasoned judgement). Agora is in a bit of a lull, though, with all important Officers resigned. < 1380200251 564320 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380200492 484815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380200590 268644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "FuNeSoMo" is such a silly project name. <-- it doesn't even seem to mean anything interesting in japanese. ("Also ship its" ?) < 1380200674 846147 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also ship its OTP < 1380200755 686824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably someone somewhere making a business of shipping one time pads. < 1380201072 351418 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Taneb was trope overdosing. < 1380201100 859905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lampshades Taneb < 1380201108 349080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but i've forgot what OTP is. < 1380201142 341099 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380201151 818903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google provided the one true meaning, though. < 1380201271 764746 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380201342 134470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you were better off not knowing! < 1380201373 183170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably, now i'm on tvtropes after all. < 1380201455 725367 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380201619 863401 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how many open tabs? < 1380201645 381147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i had 3 tvtropes tabs but now i'm down to one. < 1380201795 844847 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380202033 818329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :now? < 1380202232 219176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm two. < 1380202256 966279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of them is the same, though.) < 1380202426 428504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the difference between a duck? < 1380202451 73925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can neither bike < 1380202460 34270 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not allowed to say duck boily < 1380202483 808511 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUCKAY. < 1380202497 155205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait sorry, that's an elephant, not a duck. < 1380202643 741322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unfortunately, half the time I tell this joke people miss the parody and ask "The difference between a duck and WHAT?" Whenever that happens I cry inside for humanity." < 1380202732 721860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how old do you speak french? < 1380202851 516920 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380202863 47182 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1380202885 891222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1380202888 501506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1380202909 603095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're getting so efficient. < 1380202930 796490 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j < 1380202934 450205 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmeme < 1380203049 238316 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no are you spanish < 1380203145 688198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois looks like venezuela. < 1380203161 2722 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjjjjaj < 1380203647 766190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: about... 24 years, I guess, give or take a pregnancy. < 1380203663 76929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ottianna/oerjan/ < 1380203668 601621 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jajjjaja < 1380203676 559588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1380203687 227900 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: ¿de qué país viene? < 1380203700 400429 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cumana < 1380203778 889427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate nails it again. en:cumana becomes fr:cumana. yééééé... < 1380203792 685091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: parles-tu français? < 1380203799 236064 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380203800 372404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a city name < 1380203814 882414 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. < 1380203938 814100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: nuestro traductor español regular es fuera del canal. estoy tratando de convencerlo de que venga aquí. < 1380203973 877980 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nose pero si tu lo dices < 1380204235 320375 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380204237 234181 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ dog \ etc \ factor \ file \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ mind \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380204245 877442 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1380204247 723669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck.fu \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fueue.c \ ul.emm < 1380204252 511664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spanish < 1380204254 313954 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :spanish? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380204260 421322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pity < 1380204268 78705 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, where's that main-as-a-value program stored? < 1380204268 935695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear one of the egos had a translator < 1380204283 314841 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380204308 345668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1380204310 172988 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome \ cat \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello.c \ lua \ maze \ maze.c \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ units.dat \ WordData < 1380204323 427902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/hello.c < 1380204323 592306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hogy < 1380204325 155983 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :const short main[] = {18517,58761,49201,49801,49407,51081,3816,0,18432,27749,28524,8236,28535,27762,8548,24074,3762,1295,15536,-207,1295}; < 1380204325 729958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) `translatefromto hu en Hogy hogy hogy ami kemeny How hard is that < 1380204337 63493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ^ < 1380204341 450470 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oerjan < 1380204342 986082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan. Thoerjan. < 1380204343 282007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate from to en es my hovercraft is full of eels < 1380204348 97322 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/json", line 5, in \ print eval(sys.argv[1]).encode('utf-8') \ File "", line 1, in \ TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable < 1380204362 432021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate en es my hovercraft is full of eels < 1380204363 807990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translatefromto en es hello ottianna how are you < 1380204365 232961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the translate commands bit rotted ages ago. < 1380204365 931838 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/json", line 4, in \ data = json.loads(sys.stdin.read().decode('utf-8')) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/json/__init__.py", line 310, in loads \ return _default_decoder.decode(s) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 346, in decode \ obj, end < 1380204367 420653 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/json", line 4, in \ data = json.loads(sys.stdin.read().decode('utf-8')) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/json/__init__.py", line 310, in loads \ return _default_decoder.decode(s) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 346, in decode \ obj, end < 1380204374 528637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like so. < 1380204377 623305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1380204395 595318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google's api changed, or something. < 1380204400 630380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems like the kind of thing that's elliott's fault < 1380204411 386780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, in fact, they obliterated it, iirc. < 1380204424 208844 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hogy hogy hogy. < 1380204573 576739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/translatefromto < 1380204574 974138 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TEXT="$1" \ FROM=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/ .*$//'` \ TEXT=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/^[^ ]* //'` \ TO=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/ .*$//'` \ TEXT=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/^[^ ]* //'` \ if [ "$FROM" = "auto" ] ; then FROM="" ; fi \ \ curl -e http://codu.org/ http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/services/language/translate \ \ --data-urlenco < 1380204590 882155 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandame una mensaje < 1380204632 377766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1aecho "This google api no longer exists."; exit 1' bin/translatefromto < 1380204636 750480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380204647 589484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate oh noes! < 1380204650 913541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :This google api no longer exists. < 1380204714 175774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: solamente si usted participa en la dominación mundial de los lenguajes de programación esotéricos. < 1380204738 190741 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :claro} < 1380204796 674308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((EXTERMINAR! )S:^):^ < 1380204796 819443 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! ...too much output! < 1380204887 236535 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, who wrote the main-as-a-value program? < 1380204918 34458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i don't remember, search the logs? < 1380204947 906323 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`share/hello < 1380204949 174392 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1380205056 728441 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380205113 808901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like Jafet http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log?rev=hello.c < 1380205161 144349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some help from fizzie. < 1380205946 90533 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380206036 513698 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1380206049 676877 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380206217 581513 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :xterminate < 1380206275 793248 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log?rev=q.c < 1380206602 459997 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380206621 228502 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1380206655 971575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pueblos moras < 1380206669 867053 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde es eso < 1380206702 56577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :eso est morenas dans le cucaracha < 1380206725 143578 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jajajajajajajajajaja < 1380206754 260577 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jajajajajajjajajajjajajjajajajajajajjajajjajajajjaajjajaja < 1380206762 933973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue < 1380206799 256024 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=-O:-*O:-) jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaajajajajjajaja < 1380206871 658889 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ton francés est doloroso. < 1380206890 194803 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no entendo l que dices < 1380206895 846608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! me modes dias tom francis, est tortillas grandes < 1380206908 816827 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:o < 1380207156 197169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e trur dokker e speinna gærn < 1380207174 789879 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otra vez en inges < 1380207219 809914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: no es necesario entender lo que se dice aquí. todo puede suceder. tenga cuidado con las personas extrañas. diviértete con el ~duck. < 1380207231 221544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :psycho killer, qu'est que c'est? < 1380207249 705949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: «ous croyons docks e serrage fou»????????? < 1380207252 677708 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya se < 1380207316 485243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's surprisingly close. < 1380207346 597774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: j'y pige que dalle. < 1380207348 936729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does not imply it's close, mind you. < 1380207382 146942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm. apparently, «j'y pige que dalle» becomes “I freelance shit”. way to go, google!) < 1380207408 505615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fyi, that one means “fsck if I understand”.) < 1380207437 67489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1380207449 30410 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dale < 1380207469 668947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out google is a bit weak on northern norwegian dialects without official spelling norms < 1380207482 968712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: fr:dalle → es:losa. < 1380207496 849082 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjjajajajajjaj < 1380207501 398812 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was d'alle < 1380207505 6662 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nelianny < 1380207522 347066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: I prefer the flagstone version. < 1380207542 341700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by the way, I'm terribly confused by the bokmål/nynorsk issue. < 1380207544 22850 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you flagstone shit < 1380207558 921112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it doesn't understand the normalized "spenna gærne" either. < 1380207598 324434 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtrans suggests “gæren”. < 1380207605 954110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet < 1380207629 596366 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjajajja < 1380207636 749476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parcomètre. < 1380207654 451872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "I think you're * crazy" where * ~ spenna and has no proper translation although i guess "fucking" will do. < 1380207677 334122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also the you is plural.) < 1380207706 404467 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah. much clearer, now. «je pense que vous être tous crissement mongols.» < 1380207714 355071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/être/êtes/ < 1380207726 452225 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not even able to properly conjugate my own verbs. shameful.) < 1380207884 148717 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: je pense que vous hêtre un arbre, monsieur < 1380207928 142823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well ok so in 1814 when norway got transfered from denmark to sweden in a big post-napoleonic war mess, our official writing language was _danish_. < 1380207929 99166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: bon point. < 1380207973 477019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but you still spoke norwegian, right? < 1380207987 125561 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380207993 481371 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did _you_ speak danish at the time? < 1380208006 936667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mess left us with great inne autonomy (and a constitution), which meant despite being unioned with the swedes we could start being a bit openly nationalistic. and then people thought, we shouldn't keep writing danish. < 1380208012 155593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: no. < 1380208018 433658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inner < 1380208081 48812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well except for the upper classs in the capital, which were in fact at one earlier point said to have the best danish pronunciation in the kingdom. < 1380208154 258386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which meant that even after a while had gone, the upper class spoke a norwegian language much closer to danish than what the lower and rural classes did. < 1380208168 260405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*had passed < 1380208253 77051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, when deciding how to turn our writing language from danish to norwegian, there was the question of whether to start from the upper class speech and gradually norwegianize that, or whether to start radically by making up an entirely new writing language from "pure" norwegian as spoken out in the country. < 1380208270 93859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perversely, we did _both_. < 1380208281 969680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inner Danish. < 1380208327 441405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bokmål descends from the former, nynorsk from the latter. although both forms have been brought _much_ closer than they originally were back in the late 19th century. < 1380208377 646131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and during the 50's/60's the government tried to push for the final unification by mixing together the least extreme forms on both sides. < 1380208385 273457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that backfired horribly. < 1380208403 923014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1950's/1960's. < 1380208441 743115 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand the dichotomy between spoken and written language (French has it), but your case is as you said: perverse. < 1380208459 565968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because although the forms have many commonalities, they have incompatible base _aesthetics_. < 1380208483 357910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the mixture was considered by many to be unspeakably ugly. < 1380208555 961602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so we still have two forms today. although nynorsk has lost a lot of ground, so bokmål is the default in most respects except in a fraction of municipalities. < 1380208620 347997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about all these dialects? that's another subject I have a poor grasp on, because, well... Québec French is Québec French wherever you are (with some minor accent variations). < 1380208726 588076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at the same time from the 70's or so, norwegians developed the unusual habit of insisting on speaking dialect. in fact it started as part of the movement to preserve nynorsk "Speak dialect, write nynorsk!" is the slogan. the latter part did not succeed so much, the former succeeded brilliantly. < 1380208730 590496 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1380208751 726964 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380208763 550306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so you speak a northern dialect, and write bokmål, if I'm not mistaken? < 1380208769 904749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380208806 670049 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you understand and can communicate with other norwegians? (not necessarily by morse) < 1380208815 488412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall recently someone pointed out even our crown princess speaks dialect :P < 1380208871 328729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the crown prince grew up in upper class oslo, which is the least dialecty part of the country.) < 1380208912 336182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes. < 1380208949 401877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some dialects that are harder to understand, but they're not so often met around here. < 1380208951 720343 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The average English speaker is fluent in their language at the age of 12, in contrast, the average Polish speaker is fluent in their language after age of 16." < 1380209099 739910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw you might ask, back in the 19th century, why anyone even _cared_ about non-upper class language. this might be connected with an unusual feature of the norwegian constitution of 1814: it gave the vote to farmers. < 1380209131 947839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think was immensely radical at the time. < 1380209153 153319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it did _not_ give the vote to city laborers.) < 1380209211 731802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there may have been a distinction between farmers owning their own land and farmers renting, and only the former got to vote. i vaguely think. but still, it meant in norway, the countryside could not be ignored. < 1380209238 322954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"File:Om nom nom (4001714942).jpg" Wikimedia Commons has them bestly named files. < 1380209278 80341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I believe most people would consider literacy as a critical component of modern language. Primary evidence is the article itself, which is written, not spoken. " god i love this comment < 1380209424 550115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw there are not as big dialectal variations in norway today as there used to be back when every valley was basically isolated. the dialects seem to be consolidating in each region. < 1380209450 412622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that valley isolation part may explain why we had so many to start with.) < 1380209468 951473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess. Norway is like Switzerland, but longer. < 1380209489 427708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what is it a file of? < 1380209543 859199 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380209553 363516 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that sounds roughly like English but I think we started a lot earlier? < 1380209574 306563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pretty much. although there's also the fjords, which meant that at one time it was easier to travel by boat than by land, many places. < 1380209634 606506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we have at least one fjord here! :D < 1380209639 399436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i suppose quebec might not have so many dialects because the french-speakers got there only a few centuries ago? < 1380209655 68657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also boily < 1380209667 314164 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Québec City was settled in 1608, so yeah, very much not long ago. < 1380209675 228392 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't know, the US has a lot of accents < 1380209681 144265 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again it's a lot more spread out < 1380209683 542169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US is _huge_. < 1380209692 181334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there are ten times as many Americans vs. Canadians. < 1380209696 973824 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truuuue < 1380209729 846358 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 100 years ago around here you could tell what village someone came from from his accent < 1380209800 878721 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380209813 91192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a not quite related note, what is the name of that thing where you can spot in which language something is written by its characteristics, like «ő» means Hungarian, but you don't speak the language itself? < 1380209851 675587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. < 1380209975 691808 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380210283 420700 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380210548 796441 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pattern recognition? :) < 1380210649 624154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: yes, but from the human side. like, simple heuristics, where the error rate doesn't need to tend towards zero. < 1380210689 371107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the Ultra Pattern Recognition with Sliced Pineapple and a Small Umbrella Version. < 1380210847 288677 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. apparently it's called “language identification”. makes sense. < 1380210870 238719 :ais523_!93bcc349@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380210910 758765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Ultra Pattern Recognition with Sliced Pineapple and a Small Umbrella Version | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1380210972 86660 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, boily is almost the entire topic now < 1380211306 535395 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380211338 544409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover TOPIC #esoteric :Ultra Pattern Recognition with Sliced Pineapple and a Small Umbrella Version | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | the boily at the end of all things < 1380211359 262088 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380211771 811439 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380211838 801436 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380211998 536657 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380212007 124151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380212318 188044 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380213084 74464 :ais523_!93bcc349@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.73 QUIT : < 1380213140 751560 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1380214036 263387 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380214162 276734 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380214298 539675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, hard disks are so hard to open. < 1380214321 593557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm throwing away some broken ones, and wanted to maybe make data restoration slightly more difficult.) < 1380214341 545731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard disk magnets are dangerous to my physical integrity. < 1380214378 794330 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1380214427 224281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even get this controller board off, because two of the six (Torx) screws went all mushy. (I think my Torx head might be one size too small.) < 1380214486 578364 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380214512 606464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a T10 and a T15 and the T15 doesn't fit, while the T10 just turns around. < 1380214516 276163 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380214586 346734 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But will it blend? < 1380214658 703136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really have a blender. < 1380214704 693901 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380214753 257896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have a lawnmower? < 1380214821 903381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have one of those either. < 1380215018 978383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you do penspinning with a kitchen knife? < 1380215210 325590 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long you'd have to boil a hard disk before you would manage to reduce it to a rich broth. < 1380215423 744619 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380215461 777361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/Images/meat-tenderizer.jpg < 1380215814 111556 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard disk tenderizer < 1380216036 702438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, when i was your age a meat tenderiser was just a big mallet < 1380216221 146806 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not *that* young. < 1380216320 311552 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was your age "Meat Tenderizer" was my gay porn name. < 1380216388 328232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that Patrick Swayze died four years ago. < 1380216404 718139 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380216516 676040 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I seem to recall hearing that. < 1380216518 603159 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four years ago. < 1380216531 716453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only knew after community made a joke about it < 1380216594 839522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random generelectronic question: can I buy an e-ink display that interfaces just like common LCDs? < 1380216834 705431 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380217048 852182 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deterministic prelectronicise answer: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/small-epaper-shield-p-1597.html < 1380217136 407220 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380217220 185271 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380217752 987924 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380218089 730692 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380218396 269064 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone heard news of the When reference implementation? < 1380218418 724396 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than "You will 'soon' be able to lay your grubby little hands on it." in 2001 < 1380219251 870532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grin seems to be the only esolang that has a builtin “arccos” function. < 1380219471 586203 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380219581 931356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How about Tiny? < 1380219600 438815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or Qwerty Reverse Polish Notation? < 1380219609 945346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or Stlang? < 1380219619 14845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or KimL? < 1380219634 321857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or Gammaplex? < 1380219657 166656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wasn't up to there, skipped Gammaplex, and I said “seems”. < 1380219660 404248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about IRP < 1380219668 179497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP is a myth. < 1380219676 557621 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380219681 534238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly all those call it "acos". < 1380219691 617389 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque has it i think < 1380219705 51257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. for a very, very week value of “seems”. < 1380219721 258687 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because I'm browsing the hello-world-in-esolangs page. < 1380219764 208440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesque is a Stlang derivative, so it makes sense it'd have it too. < 1380219787 231316 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of burlesque, where has mroman disappeared? < 1380219802 5641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something people do, disappear. < 1380219819 129754 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's still in #anagol! < 1380219898 185501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Temptation of Succumbing to the ~Duck is strong, but I will heed the Phantom and not do that. < 1380219908 432964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1380219908 813696 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Swallowing" to "Shake" < 1380220729 939792 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380221320 277798 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380221405 309292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when trying to cram an acronym into a common word doesn't quite work out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOCK < 1380221438 171432 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why they can't just call it "clock" < 1380221444 796367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was expecting the 'L' to be the contrived part < 1380221469 243699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same. < 1380221471 432035 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In humans, a polymorphism in Clock, rs6832769, may be related to the personality trait agreeableness" amazing < 1380221491 966414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so you expected the COCK to be okay < 1380221495 200099 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a quick way to cut a video in half, like get the first thirty seconds of a sixty second video? in mp4. < 1380221646 828553 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :University of Tromsø is the world's northernmost university. < 1380221741 880313 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380221760 786201 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -ss 00:00:00 -t 00:00:30 trimmed_video.mp4 < 1380221781 794207 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you need exactly half of it, always? < 1380221787 970443 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no,that works, thanks. < 1380222938 181003 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380222963 128187 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HLA Q CESHA < 1380223129 869463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XOR EAX, EAX < 1380223157 502257 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380223197 256953 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a prof of mine said, xor eax, eax isn't faster than mov eax, 0 anymore (iff the cpu has a special zero register) < 1380223202 735188 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380223246 403035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: maybe, but I think xor eax, eax has entered Idiomatic Legendary Status. < 1380223286 143428 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well, it may be, but moving between registers can be made in "0 cycles" < 1380223383 273067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... there should be a special opcode that covers the whole xor instruction (with registers and all), that translates to the mov version. < 1380223407 499133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that way, you could xor things with themselves, have performance, and be happy with it. < 1380223439 135131 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's not unlikely that this is done < 1380223467 481107 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in this case xor is not faster than mov, it is equally fast at best < 1380223511 682201 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more confused about "loop" considered slow < 1380223534 730657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. loop incurs branches, therefore branch prediction, therefore hair loss. < 1380223540 93008 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. slower than dec rcx & cmp rcx, 0 & jne < 1380223576 44936 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you make the jump without loop, you still need branch prediction < 1380223587 790631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"xor eax, eax" is denser, though. < 1380223607 330858 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'd build a processor, i'd make loop as always taken < 1380223679 228231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'd build a processor, I'd have an MP3 opcode. < 1380223704 906624 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even make some magic like "if rcx is 1 set the prediction to not taken instead" to make literally 0 flushes in a loop < 1380223717 456898 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why that? < 1380223719 28115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dependency Breaking Idioms -- Instruction parallelism can be improved by using common instructions to clear register contents to zero. The renamer can detect them on the zero evaluation of the destination register. -- Use one of these dependency breaking idioms to clear a register when possible. -- XOR REG, REG -- Since zero idioms are detected and removed by the renamer, they have no ... < 1380223725 35878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... execution latency." < 1380223750 31572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Goes a reasonable recent version of the Intel Optimization Manual on the topic of clearing a register.) < 1380223779 544392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: because I'd like to. something that really, really shouldn't get reduced to an opcode. < 1380224007 953287 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380224123 712129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for LOOP, "Assembly/Compiler Coding Rule 31. (M impact, M generality) Avoid using complex instructions (for example, ENTER, LEAVE or LOOP) that have more than four µops and require multiple cycles to decode. Use sequences of simple instructions instead. -- Complex instructions may save architectural registers, but incur a penalty of 4 µops to set up parameters for the microsequencer ROM ... < 1380224129 724866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... in Intel NetBurst microachitecture." < 1380224158 750031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also something something about Core microarchitecture and 4-1-1-1 templates and diminishing returns. < 1380224179 635874 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I remember right microcodey things can often use like 8-10+ clocks < 1380224200 214357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(micro-ops which are executed out of the microsequencer involve extra overhead). < 1380224203 217572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1380224217 759084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use LOOP often enough they'll optimize it to be the fastest alternative < 1380224236 280786 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this says LOOP is 5 cycles (7 uops) on haswell, LOOP(N)E is 6 cycles (11 uops)? < 1380224243 336223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to use it quite a lot to offset what all the mainstream compilers are doing. < 1380224257 462581 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PART :#esoteric < 1380224316 195950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if GCC "-Os" can be coaxed to LOOP, though. < 1380224326 398145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson of the day: don't use loops. at all. in fact, write you programs with no branches whatsoever. < 1380224497 175314 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: indeed < 1380224521 447855 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also, don't make any data that depends on each other to avoid data hazards < 1380224522 414364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The Optimization Manual, IIRC, sort of recommends against that. < 1380224545 562779 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: having an MP3 opcode, or writing without branches? < 1380224550 842609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing without branches. < 1380224578 126083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AArch64 (the 64-bit ARM arch) removed most of the predicated execution because "our branch predictor is so good, they're not that useful any more". < 1380224584 380891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Paraphrasing there.) < 1380224591 353273 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as in predicated instructions? of course < 1380224609 214546 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1380224668 826843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Benchmarking shows that modern branch predictors work well enough that predicated execution of instructions does not offer sufficient benefit to justify its significant use of opcode space, and its implementation cost in advanced implementations." < 1380224672 842275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Without paraphrasing.) < 1380224729 579970 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380224742 191067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One assumes perhaps the "significant use of opcode space" was more of an issue because they needed to fit more register bits in there. (AArch64 also doubled the number of registers.) < 1380224769 596194 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they keep predication for a few common cases ? < 1380224775 656474 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard they did something like that < 1380224781 444418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they did that. < 1380224790 5558 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like I guess "conditional add" is way nicer than "conditional leading zero count") < 1380224795 232141 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, do you know which ones? < 1380224814 394639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "Only conditional branches, and a handful of data processing instructions read the condition flags." < 1380224824 774968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's not much of an answer. < 1380224828 855408 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I guess not^^; < 1380224839 758239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome jix < 1380224843 207303 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07jix03: Wel10c06o02me to th08e i02nternationa03l hub for esoteric prog02ramming language 09desi11gn a14nd11 deploy05m08e11nt! 02Fo09r more 02information, check ou08t o14ur wiki: htt13p://eso07langs.org/wik13i/Main_Page. (For the ot10her kind o07f esoterica,11 04t14r10y #esoteric on irc.11dal.n04et.) < 1380224856 184315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's sad that they removed predicated instructions from ARM < 1380224861 820244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that was mostly the case already with Thumb < 1380224863 772979 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they did? < 1380224866 992647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above < 1380224879 338820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thumb2 has the weird if-then-else instructions < 1380224886 554758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They didn't include IT either. < 1380224890 218937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Leg have those? < 1380224890 977406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw damn < 1380224899 509228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going to call it Leg instead of AArch64 if that's OK with everyone) < 1380224921 265208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Oh, the document I was quoting (pasted from irclogs) has more detail. Just a moment. < 1380224923 767458 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does that mean that switching to x86 is giving up an arm and a leg? < 1380224927 417087 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1380224961 452564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "The conditional instruction types are: Conditional branch -- Add/subtract with carry -- Conditional select with increment, negate or invert -- Conditional compare" < 1380224975 385080 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380224977 360875 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that covers a lot of it < 1380224990 841402 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost eeeverything I've ever felt like I wanted conditionals for were conditional move/add/subtract < 1380225039 759184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Conditional select with X" means you can select between two source registers based on the condition flag, and the other source can optionally be unmodified/negated/incremented/inverted. < 1380225048 547247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's kind of like a three-argument CMOV on steroids. < 1380225053 197916 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh, that's cool. < 1380225077 989083 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, that kind of "source can be optionally {long list of things}" reminds me of vpperm < 1380225093 887325 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380225126 29463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "conditional compare" means it does a comparison if the specified condition is true, otherwise sets it to an immediate value, and the idea is to flatten nested conditionals without needing to do conditional branches or arithmetic with boolean values. < 1380225159 977901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like.... if( x > y ) x = 1? < 1380225167 194356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sets what? the flag? < 1380225196 675902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, the flag that would otherwise be set as per the result of the comparison. < 1380225208 124241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380225211 19461 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh. < 1380225224 211938 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a compare that only saves its results if a condition is true? < 1380225233 518214 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like if( cond ) { condition flag = {cond2} } < 1380225245 400923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yes. (Well, it also does not do the comparison, but I'm not sure how you'd observe that.) < 1380225268 913894 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that makes sense with big complicated if statements and stuff. < 1380225306 177876 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: And now that I read this more closely, it seems as if "add/subtract with carry" meant just that; it's not a specifically conditional add/subtract, but instead it was listed as a "conditional instruction type" because it uses a condition (the carry flag) as an input. < 1380225314 598503 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh :< < 1380225337 180255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: wow this VPPERM instruction is pretty fancy < 1380225343 315426 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's fun!! < 1380225529 359594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: As a minor additional note, the "conditional select" group includes also "conditional set", the x86 "SETcc" thing. (Except there's one variant to select between 0/1, and another to select between 0/-1, which I suppose could be nice for doing some conditional masks. Although maybe you don't need to do that many masks with the conditional select from two regs.) < 1380225557 745629 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh. that's kinda nice. especially since I'm guessing it won't be like setcc and only work on 8-bit registers -_- < 1380225595 541662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, it's full registers. < 1380225621 98364 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a chess programming wiki, that dabbles in assembly instructions. what has the world come to → http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/XOP#VPPERM < 1380225631 140962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i saw that -- pretty awesome < 1380225641 107484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess programming stuff has loots of assembly and microoptimization things < 1380225644 908897 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda cool really :o < 1380225645 321264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there's conditional increment/invert/negate... oh, of course, those are just special cases of "conditional select and X" with the both source registers the same. < 1380225646 150805 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380225740 152215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but it's only chess! why does it need that much microfiddling? < 1380225758 31769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's still kinda cool. completely unobvious.) < 1380225767 420552 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, well, like, you need to find fast ways to perform common operations like < 1380225769 299717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Another fi. < 1380225776 442291 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you represent a board, or like, how do you calculate which squares can be attacked < 1380225796 896576 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you need to generate moves fast (at any given node in your minimax tree) and have a heuristic that's evaluated fast < 1380225845 893715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: autocompletion once again fail me. < 1380226041 590062 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever tried minmaxing anything? looking a dozen moves ahead in tic tac toe is hard, let alone chess < 1380226105 345699 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we did some minmaxing back in some random university class. it didn't work. < 1380226157 872193 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I recall correctly a lot of the top chess programs do like. 5 million nodes per second or more < 1380226185 270585 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380226204 345042 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~it's exponential~ < 1380226204 642029 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1380226210 963354 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo shut up < 1380226219 297364 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. < 1380226249 764060 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it stands to reason that you want to reduce the coefficient of those exponents as much as possible. Right? Right. < 1380226301 918502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: reducing dimensions is usually the first step → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_dimensionality < 1380226323 212246 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, you wanna prune the tree too. < 1380226358 913506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the soonest you remove things, the soonest you can arrive at the wrong answer. < 1380226384 504966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then prune the wrong answer off, and start again until the only thing left is the right answer.) < 1380226542 267436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :98% of the participants of the "Introduction to AI" course I helped with minmaxed during the course programmng project. < 1380226617 843961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally up to something like 4-6 ply. < 1380226635 883362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game / problem? < 1380226688 786538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a game that really was only used on the course -- http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~svirpioj/hierarkia/rules_en.html < 1380226719 604020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Branching factor generally about 1.5-2x that of chess, from what I recall. < 1380226728 721300 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380226817 192968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha-beta pruning (which maybe 80-90% did) with perfect move ordering in theory lets you look twice as far. < 1380226907 59845 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380226973 179185 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I remember reading that they found that (up to a point) shorter, more exhaustive searches tended to be better than deeper, less branchy ones (for chess at least) < 1380226991 777582 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that's with stuff like quiesence searches and check extensions < 1380227017 446178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall one submission where a last-minute change flipped the sign in an otherwise well-working minmax-with-alpha-beta search system, so that the AI in question made a pretty good effort to lose every game it played. < 1380227025 68716 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm yes *examines words while holding chin in thoughtful gesture* < 1380227052 426746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION examines fizzie while holding Bike's chin in thoughtful gesture < 1380227090 77928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You made that sound like an adventure game action. < 1380227130 330604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a pretyt in-depth game if it understands all that. < 1380227281 438706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe just the first part. < 1380227282 25936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESOTER: Explore the dungeons of #esoteric! Battle the Dragon of Diæresis! Grab wonderous loot, and examine Finns! < 1380227786 611573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you even get the diaeresis thing from boily < 1380227830 404973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. < 1380228442 278892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1380228452 483987 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380228648 609704 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zzo38 < 1380228739 807397 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk tsk, totally incccurate sample < 1380228820 839133 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380228940 491138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe zzo was on SA < 1380229197 129204 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SA? < 1380229206 671187 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo was on South America!? < 1380229225 743032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb < 1380229248 936259 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_hoover < 1380229257 865646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Tooter. < 1380229259 422117 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tired and confused and don't know what is going on < 1380229267 766757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you killed the moment fizzie < 1380229302 829188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: The curiosity killed the bot. < 1380229303 168213 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm fnord back at the end of the sequence, then they're the same < 1380229771 115189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380229804 645891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nautil.us/issue/5/fame/the-twin-prime-hero it makes me unreasonably angry that they are still pulling this shit < 1380229818 727345 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380229838 733227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/KbZZ <- that's not good at all. < 1380230093 514497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opening the offending file in evince and printing it to a PDF file made it work. Computers! < 1380230280 183921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of some online checkin that produced PDFs that was only readable on one computer and that was not the computer that was connected to any printer < 1380230331 673613 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ended up mailing each boarding card to the one who could read them, convert them to pdf, mail them again to the guy who could print < 1380230358 891894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, boarding passes, that's also always a fun. < 1380230366 733783 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380230385 649009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I once printed one at a hotel where the computer connected to their printer had no PDF viewer I could find. < 1380230405 134226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ended up opening it on the laptop and print-to-fileing to that one Microsoft things, whatsitcalled. < 1380230416 519124 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :WMF? < 1380230426 389810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the more PDF-alike. < 1380230427 520938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :XPS? < 1380230445 42416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, XPS. < 1380230464 189700 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? XPS < 1380230465 769318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "Microsoft XPS Document Writer" by default. < 1380230466 870992 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :XPS? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380230483 197940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The XPS Document Writer allows you to create .xps files using any program that you run on Windows. XPS documents look the same in print as they do on the screen. They are portable, like any other file that you can e–mail or transfer using a CD, DVD, universal serial bus (USB) drive, or network connection. They are also easy to share because you can view them on any computer where an XPS ... < 1380230489 708858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... viewer is installed, even if the computer does not have the same programs that you used to create the original documents." < 1380230496 344902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds quite a bit like PDF, doesn't it? < 1380230548 408938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an ECMA standard and all. < 1380230589 689590 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1380230593 722808 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1380230619 709317 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380230846 541381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: pulling what? < 1380231030 180597 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :reporting everything that happens in maths as the result of a lone genius < 1380231096 769761 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380231249 516450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically was in this case to start with, wasn't it? < 1380231467 280181 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380232342 120808 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380232363 188748 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380232563 250189 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380232897 613783 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380233539 660744 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380234107 991103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : XOR EAX, EAX < 1380234133 314120 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :INC EAX < 1380234141 648120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should tell zzo38 of my new invented spell to annihilate frogs. < 1380234164 592055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, in ARM ASM, xor is eor < 1380234176 295043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you simply intone the magical words BREKEKEKEX XOR EAX, EAX < 1380234279 554598 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that annihilates frogs < 1380234282 931007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380234295 124142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Winnie the Pooh fans I assume < 1380234398 909637 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1380234472 354160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeyore! Eeyore! Cthulhu Fhtagn! < 1380234484 318838 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380234580 27234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that exists http://miscellany.lolthulhu.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/swanson-eeyore.jpg < 1380234621 592246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1380234679 220593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brekekekex xor eax, eax was not googleable, alas < 1380234717 657654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose aristophanes hasn't truly permeated geek culture yet. < 1380234723 574267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike greek culture. < 1380234751 477670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the joke! < 1380234757 782004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1380234758 836757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :via Major-General's Song naturally. < 1380234765 109312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380234781 589541 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there was a joke? < 1380234836 372275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's always a joke, olsner < 1380234885 940936 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380234928 761214 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you don't see the joke, you are the joke < 1380235028 772086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1380235273 967470 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arisophanes is on my reading list but keeps going down < 1380235351 133248 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380235382 82907 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380235660 523087 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380236125 528957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord Diæresis < 1380236127 91990 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :68 105 230 114 101 115 105 115 < 1380236138 946587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nothing funny going on there < 1380236190 494734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ꙮ < 1380236191 962239 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :42606 < 1380236364 331134 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380236450 507360 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord \0 < 1380236452 165078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380236470 258474 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord \n < 1380236471 978640 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380236481 734992 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something funny going on there < 1380236490 890091 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380236761 862762 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380236932 789508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ord < 1380236934 380046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$@" | perl -C7 -pe 'chomp; $_ = join(" ", map { ord } split //, $_);' < 1380236986 916288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/sh/bash/' bin/ord < 1380236991 348065 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380236995 970792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord \0 < 1380236997 857383 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :92 48 < 1380237028 39719 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sh -c 'echo \n' < 1380237029 278379 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1380237033 221574 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo \n' < 1380237034 589300 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1380237044 88771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i even ask < 1380237062 515670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall it depends on whether it has terminal < 1380237068 496588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1380237072 145943 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's a no < 1380237096 378943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, /bin/sh behaves in weird ways. < 1380237175 18432 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Give echo the -e flag < 1380237182 768058 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo -e \n' < 1380237184 379083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1380237194 160490 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1380237197 249201 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo -e "\n"' < 1380237201 819150 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380237206 26468 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1380237218 880536 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sh -c 'echo -e "\n"' < 1380237220 342487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-e < 1380237225 940052 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Good. < 1380237475 594812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l `which sh` `which bash` < 1380237477 937435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 926536 Apr 10 2010 /bin/bash \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 4 Oct 14 2011 /bin/sh -> dash < 1380237486 269937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dash? < 1380237488 806844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1380237898 744001 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380237962 185176 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380237962 330505 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380238155 86222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: is the account koen_ yours? it hasn't been used in a while. < 1380238177 634947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the same as koen) < 1380238190 414417 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my irc client thinks it's fun to join a server, disconnect, then join again when I open it < 1380238209 854312 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should have Koen__ as my second choice and Koen_ as my third < 1380238222 529529 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1380238224 49917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1380238238 185167 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380238247 812135 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better? < 1380238257 55097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO YOU ARE EVADING THE QUESTION < 1380238267 312763 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it doesn't allow to change nicks without logging out, as far as I know < 1380238285 837401 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I think it's mine < 1380238303 142856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to log in before it expires < 1380238325 38210 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm, not the usual password < 1380238350 757741 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1380238358 959091 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T KNOW THE PASSWORD OKAY < 1380238365 641728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1380238412 582581 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1380238422 505241 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow < 1380238428 585300 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380238437 635501 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to sleep but apparently I need to write an interpreter for When before I can < 1380238610 255510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i think you can probably get the account dropped and then reregister it, it's even the "2 weeks expiry if not used more than 2 hours after registration" clause. < 1380238617 453132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*even under < 1380238647 260053 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I have used it less that 2 hours after registration < 1380238661 950053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's what i said. < 1380238682 444313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would be expired anyhow under the 10 week clause. < 1380238698 472434 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely been more than ten weeks since I used it < 1380238702 526802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i recall it used to be 60 weeks?) < 1380238716 567913 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean I'm not the one using it? < 1380238723 771894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why are you agreeing with me? i already checked with NickServ. < 1380238732 618071 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380238750 795987 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't agreeing with you I just had trouble understanding what you said < 1380238762 563812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying it _has_ expired, so you can get it dropped, thus reregister it with a password you know. < 1380238768 481506 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhh okay < 1380238798 747401 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I do that I'll never know what the password was, though < 1380238814 978629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is a problem how? :P < 1380238834 335582 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just put it on the "I'll do it tomorrow" list < 1380238842 273835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good. < 1380238844 350091 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a First-in Never-out data structure < 1380238871 522174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah one of those. is it stored in one of those write-only memories? < 1380238877 462123 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit it's friday < 1380238888 272050 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380238888 662279 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1380238896 110065 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still thursday here Phantom_Hoover < 1380238904 837981 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :25h41 < 1380238910 428349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random Standard Time! < 1380238927 346563 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380238933 821787 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380239054 809420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :best timezone < 1380239155 257280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1380239282 308917 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's funny you should say that, cause I'm starting to think that When's strings *are* write-only < 1380239315 73302 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, there's a concatenation operator, but no substring or array subscript operator < 1380239796 811053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the when specification doesn't actually specify the operators? < 1380239939 879813 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection